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Crime girl
01-02-2005, 10:25 AM
Hi everyone and Good morning!!

Here is your new thread- enjoy!

Just a reminder:
Monday- support day and a good day for tips on staying motivated
Tuesday- support day and a good day for reasons why we want to lose- I think that keeps us motivated more than anything when we reexamine why we want to lose..
Wednesday- "what have I been eating all week day" and I want to start trying to get everyone to share quick recipes or tips on cooking that work for them.
Thursday- "what I have done to move my bootie day" and I want to get everyone to start giving us an idea on how they work exercise into their lives and the things they enjoy doing.
Friday- support and influence day- lets make this a day we talk about anything or anyone that influenced our weight loss for the week- things like friends giving bad foods or a partner that supported our efforts.
Saturday- recap day- lets talk about the things we thought worked for us for the week and those that didn't- this might help us see where we strayed and where we stood firm.
Sunday- weigh in day and reaffirm goal day- give us an idea of your goals for the week, month, and long term.

It is Sunday so anyone who wants to weigh in should do that.

My goals for this week are to:
Get to the gym at least 3 times
Buy a new pair of sneakers so I can go to the gym without pain
Start my food diary so I can record what I am eating
Post on here at least 1 time a day
Follow food plan
Drink 8 glasses of water a day

How about you guys?? What do you hope to accomplish this week?

Okay- the question of the day will be :
If a genie gave you 3 wishes that would come true- what would you wish for and why?
Have fun everyone!
I will be on more later..

:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-02-2005, 10:54 AM
Good morning guys!

Red - don't worry, it's normal to want to know you're not alone. Feeling better because someone else has been down too, just makes you feel normal. and a little sick :) just kidding!.

Crime girl - sick again! You gotta change your ways child :) That's what my granny B always told me. She also pulled our fingers to see which ones popped and said that was how many lies we told that week. I'm not sure she was the authority on those kinds of things though.....I hope you're feeling better soon! As for being bi polar - I'm very glad you found meds and take them regularly!! That seems to be one of the hardest parts for this friend. Having to take a pill daily...she just doesn't like the idea that she has to and so she doesn't do it. We've never witnessed anything to this extreme though. We figured it has happened before because her husband was so calm about it. I wish people viewed all meds equally! Why is it okay for someone to need heart medication but different if they need something to balance a chemical in their brain?? We're getting closer but not there yet. I'm very glad for you though!!

Okay, I did get on the scales and they say that I still have the weight I gained before. I'm at 143 and holding but my jeans are much more loose and I'm wearing shirts better too. Also my bra is getting a TINY bit loose. I was a DDD!! I didn't think those things would ever start shrinking!! I am planning to go in two weeks to get 1 smaller bra just to make sure I have support for working out and working. Nothing like saggy ladies!!

wishes from a geni

1. good health for my family and loved ones
2. Wisdom and good hands for work
3. $$$ (in case you thought I was already doing well in the wisdom department :) )
4. to never have to hear that geni in a bottle song again!! (can I get four wishes?)

Goals for this week

1. hit the gym everyday
2. eat on my plan without cheating at all (I have 1 1/2 weeks until D day with the Doctor - need to be good about eating so I'm strong when I go in)
3. stay away from the scales!!!

See you all later today!

01-02-2005, 11:55 AM
Hello everyone..

Let see its sunday..i jumped on the scale this morning before work and it said 225...blah... But i totally feel bloated today for some reason..Its all good though..

Crimegirl- I love my ipod...It was totally worth the $299...I always have it w me .... U can do some much more then just play songs on it..

Lets see..The goals for the week for me is to start walking in the morning before work and after work (if it was too cold to walk in the morning)..And try to get back on track with my eating..Not that it is totally bad just a lot of snacking...As for my mom she is doing better after the first chemo treatment, she has to go every 21days...then after 3-4 treatments they are going to do another cat scan and see if it slowing we will see..

See u guys later **hugs**

01-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Good Morning Everyone!
Ok, I am definately my goal is to hit 229 for next Sunday.
Also my goal is to do an hour a day of working out.Hopefully more but that is all I will commit to. I am tyring to make my goals doable. Lets all have group prayer for me weighing 229 next week!!!

Oh and my other goal is to get my butt on here at least once a day if not two but when I drfit away so does my weight loss plan..

Talk to you later!

01-02-2005, 12:22 PM
Hi everyone!

Well my weight did not drop any this week but my percent body fat dropped by 1/2 %. I started this lifestyle change on December 5, so in the last month I have lost 10 pounds and 1/2% body fat.

My goals for this week:
1) Lose 2-3 pounds
2) Eat right Thurs-Sunday when I am away at school
3)Start focusing on school
4)Keep exercising 6 days a week, which means bringing a couple of DVDs to use on my laptop and workout in the hotel room.

Everyone's goals sound great! I am glad everyone is doing well. We can and will do this together!

little grasshopper
01-02-2005, 12:34 PM
Susanne - we have the same goal for workouts. I was all ready to go to the gym and I looked at my paper and they don't open til 1:00. I may go for a walk now. Good luck with your goal. I think it's completely doable!

Michie - I'm joining in with the people jealous of your ipod. I need to get a set of headphones so I can listen while I work out. I just have a radio but they give you the stations so you can tune into the TV's there also. Your mom is still in my prayers. I hope she continues to respond well to the treatment!

Redballoon - forgive me for ignoring your question earlier this weekend. I competely forgot to respond. You asked about the energy side of my work, I think. When I say I learned to ground myself, there are a lot of things you can do. People do different things - some meditate...I imagine growing roots through the floor and into the earth that hold me steady and give me strength. I also imagine it being kind of a force field that protects me from other energies that may be more of a static interference than a compliementary energy - does that make sense? I also wear a Q link. You can look them up on good. It's sole purpose is to stop interference from computers, cell phones, microwaves, power lines, and even some peoples energy. Have you ever been around someone that feels like they just suck so much from you to be with them and you can't figure out why...this is suppose to protect from that. The problem is that I seem to be a person that uses that "information" unknowingly by me, to understand how to proceed in treating them, how to answer questions and how to understand where they are coming from. Hard to be open and reaching and still filter at the same time. I didn't realize I did this until a Reiki group told me that that's why I was picking up on everyone's pains all the time. I don't get that anymore...but I have had two different experiences where I've gotten either violently sick around someone or this time almost passed out. We aren't sure why the difference but I am working on better grounding techniques and also working on not being to "reaching." I do this my talking to myself :) Constantly checking to see what I'm feeling and whether or not it's mine or the other persons. I just have a hard time doing this during body work sometimes. So much information comes in - hard to filter - when you're processing info. I know that all sounds weird - it does to me too. I tried ignoring it but when it's happening to you, you can only tell yourself it's not real for so eventually have to do something about it. You try stuff and it works so you keep doing it. Suddenly you're the weird girl on a message board talking about energy and how other people's energy makes you pass out :) :) I do want to stress that I don't think it's a positive, negative kind of thing. Energy is energy. Your light bulb can't be negative - but it can have too much current running through it and blow the bulb - or light a fire. It's more a question of balance and frequencies. Just like radio stations can interfere with each others properly funcitoning - we can sometimes to that to each other. Not positive of negative - just balance and frequency.

I hope that makes sense. Once you learn how to feel it, energy is amazing! And they have proven SOO many different ways that it exists, and in our own bodies, but western medicine is still very scared to admitt it. It's sad because studies have already shown that people who receive energy work around operations heal much more quickly and completely than those that don't. It helps with stress management and focus. I do Reiki to myself most nights. I have also worked on animals. One little puppy was very sick and my best friend asked me to work on her, at the time to try to make her well. It was pretty obvious that this baby wasn't going to make it. But what did change after I worked on her was that before she was gasping for air and wimpering constantly. Afterwards she was just breathing and sleeping. She didn't cry or gasp anymore and that gave my friend and her husband a lot more relief that she wasn't suffering. She just passed in her sleep. Very sad but really hit home that this energy thing IS something. Dogs have no power of suggestion. It either works or it doesn't and it helped this puppy a lot.

okay, before this turns into a book I'd better stop. Sorry guys, for rambling on - this is just a part of my work that I rarely talk about - didn't realize I had that much to say about it :)

Crime girl
01-02-2005, 12:42 PM
Glad to hear from so many of you this morning! :D

little grasshopper- Your granny is right! I need to change my ways. I have got to find a way to strengthen my immune system. My doc told me that diabetes weakens it but there has to be something I can do to make it better. Any suggestions other than healthy lifestyle which I have been trying to do?
You friend is going down a bad road by not taking her meds sometimes. It takes 3 weeks for meds to take back effect. The docs tell say that the meds need to have no interuption or they lose their effect. I feel for her. It is hard to get help and listen to it- but when you do it makes a world of difference.
As for the stigma of taking meds- I originally wouldn't tell anyone I was taking meds for a psychological problem because I thought they would think lesser of me. After time, I figured out that it is no worse than taking something for high blood pressure or any other problem. I am so much better on meds that I think I got over it and now (obviously) I talk openly about manic depression. Anywho- I hope your friend straightens up before she seriously harms herself.
Don't worry about the scales- if your clothes are fitting better then you know you are doing something right. :D Keep up the great work!!
I hear you with the Genie in a bottle song- Amen sister! :lol:

Michimesh- So glad you are on more. I am so happy to hear that your mom got through the treatment OK and I will keep her in my prayers.
I think I need to take your goal of walking before work- if I would get my butt up in the morning and do it I know I would feel better. ;)

susanne- Also glad to see you on more too. You can get to 229 by Sunday! We are cheering for you. :cheer:

stormy- Congrats on your great work so far- you have come a long way! :bravo: Do you stay in a hotel to go to school? How far is your school from where you live? I am confused. :^:

Okay- that is all for now! Have a wonderful day everyone!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

Crime girl
01-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Where is everyone? I know- everyone has a life but I feel chatty today!
ANyway- just checking to see if anyone has been on and has anything profound to say..
I never did the genie question so here is mine:
1. Perfect health for my family and friends
2. Enough money to live comfortably
3. A magic pill that would make me lose all this blasted weight!

Okay- well- I guess I should go get a life-
Feel sick and it makes me feel caged in because I don't really feel like doing anything but I am tired of sitting around. I hate being sick! :mad:

:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-02-2005, 06:52 PM
Good morning. You all are writing away. Crime girl, thanks for the new thread. Good for you for talking about your bipolarism. Having the courage to "come out" about things that put you at a risk of raised eyebrows and such by some is a very admirable thing. And what's this?! "Get a life" you say???????!?!? Are you saying that we all are not life enough for you!??! I am aghast! You've got a lot more life than most people I know. Don't think because you can't see us that we are not the "real thing!!"

Heh, I'm sorry but I have to run now but want to get back to stormy's offer of a challenge. I will write to you all later, ok, so don't feel slighted!! And one thing, grasshopper! thank you soo much for that lengthy explanation about energy. I love it! Please talk all you want and can about such things. It is very real, very important and yes, I totally agree that anyone, medicine etc. that ignores it is missing out on a great deal.


stormy -- thanks for your encouragement. I always get down and always get back up again. I am a fighter and a survivor but boy, do I know the depths. Maybe that's why I generally am very optimistic, I know how to get back up and always do. Sometimes it takes longer. Sometimes I have to ask for a helping hand, but I am always seeking to get back up, which I think is the most important thing.

Yes, we have the same weight to lose, but again, I think 132 will still be high for me, but I am doing that number with a lot of muscle. I was getting away from wanting muscle but I feel GOOD with lots of muscle so have again decided to hit the weights and this time really, really, try to get the fat off. They tell me, there's tons of fat inside the muscle too so it's not just what's under the skin. I see the bodybuilders and I see women who are as strong as me (or was) and they are small, very lean. It's about the consistency of the muscle too. Anyhow, I'm always carrying lots and lots of fat so I'm going to try once again to get rid of it. . . .

Ok, let's do a mini goal within our bigger goals between you and me. I don't want to set my goal as high as you have yours because I want to get totally back into weight training and will be packing the muscle back on while losing fat (yeah!) and I know that when I do that the scales don't budge sometimes. Bodybuilding friends at the gym say a 2-kg loss per month is a good goal to insure you're not losing muscle, only fat. SOOOO. . . Here's my goal. Hold me to it, will you? And do that by reminding me of it regularly, OK? I always set goals and totally forget them. Writing them down means absolutely nothing to me as they all say it will. I need to be hit over the head with it on a regular basis!! Of course, Valentine's Day is no big thing over here. Girls are supposed to give guys, all guys, including bosses etc., chocolate. The guys do nothing!! Can you believe it? Ugh. And when the foreign guys say to me, and they do, "Heh, where's our chocolate?!" I say, "Do I look Japanese to you?!?!?" :lol: But still, I know what Valentine's Day is about and I'll give myself a Valentine, which is. . . .


to be under 70 kg (154 lbs, which means a bit over a 6-lb loss from my present weight)

I have a reception on the 24th of this month. Any ideas for goals? It'll be too soon I think to make a number goal. Maybe I can set some other kind of goal to get me there, like a certain number of days without sugar or a certain number of workouts, minutes on the bicycle or something like that. I want to get to that date feeling like I've accomplished something and have a measure to prove that.

01-02-2005, 07:10 PM
Hi everyone!

It is weigh-in day, but I am going to forego that for this week, since I just finally got a scale and weighed myself on Thursday. So I'll weigh in next Sunday with everyone and see how it goes.

My goals for this week:
1. Drink 64 oz. of water per day, and try to limit myself to one Diet soda per day.
2. Stick to my meal plan (WW) within my points range.
3. Exercise at least 30 min 5 days this week.
4. Buy two new exercise DVDs to add some variety to my collection - suggestions welcome!

My three wishes:
1. To have enough money for myself and my close friends and family to live comfortably (i.e. debt free!!!).
2. To be healthy, which includes losing all of this weight with ease!
3. To find that special person who will love me for me, regardless of my weight situation.

Michiemish and Susanne - it's good to see you both back. Best of luck to both of you in dealing with the situations in your lives. Michie - my prayers are with you and your mom. Susanne - I'm keeping you in my prayers as well as you make it through this divorce. We are here for both of you!

Stormy - I, too, am confused about your school situation -- you live at school part of the week and home part? Yikes! That must be a nightmare for any sort of "routine." Good luck to you, and CG with school starting back up! You girls can do it!!!

CG - thank you for being so open about your manic depression/bi-polar. My roommate suffers from these same conditions, and hates taking meds. So we try to get her through things. She has GREAT days, and she has horrible days as well. I wish I could convince her to take meds, but it's not going to happen.

Red - sounds like you've got a good goal set for Valentine's Day. Very attainable for you. Keep up the good work!!!

Little GH - that stinks about the gym not being open, especially when you're all geared up and ready to go. But good for you for taking a walk and not resigning yourself. Nice job!

Well, I'm going to run for now. I may check back later. I'm going to try to get up at 6 tomorrow to walk (WATP) before work. Have a great night everyone!!!


little grasshopper
01-02-2005, 07:31 PM
Hi everyone! It was a perfect day here! The temp could not have been more perfect, the sky was beautiful!! I worked out and then took a blanket and pillow outside and took a nap in my yard. It was THAT nice outside! It felt great. BF came home from riding and I invited him to sleep too. He looked at me like I was crazy..wouldn't you know it, 5 minutes later he was pushing me off my side of the blanket :)

Got a great workout in and made two new friends at the gym. Both were pushing me to do the class but I don't know if I can handle that without making myself really sore. I don't realize how much I'm doing at the time...I pay the next day.

It's suppose to be in the 70's tomorrow so I'm taking my bike to work and I'm going to ride around the lake near my office during my break. I am working out tomorrow am and I'm thinking of taking the yoga class. I'm not going to treat it like an exercise class yet because that would be a lot of exercise in one day and I don't want to burn out. :) (or burn either).

Crime girl - so sorry your sick :( I hope you mend soon and are ready to hit the workouts full force! Take your time. Better to get all the way well, than to push yourself into a bad relaps.

kjk - great goals! They look realistic and solid. I wish I could give you pointers for workout tapes. I have to buy really fun ones or I won't do them. I want to find some fun dance videos or something like that (NOT sweating to the oldies!) because they always look fun!

Red - Glad I didn't place you into a reading induced slumber :) The energy part of work it really neat and very complex. I'm at the beginning of that journey. You're in the land of energy workers though! Are you using your bike as your primary form of exercise? The reason I asked is that you could set a goal to ride 30 miles a week. That's 6, 5 mile days?? Or you could get a pedometer and set a steps goal and track it weekly - then have a total number that you've reached...that would be a huge number and very encouraging to see!!

Okay guys - I have to look at the grocery receipts for the week. BF has decided that I'M expensive because I eat organic. His bill is more than twice mine each week...he REALLY doesn't believe me so this week I'm showing him. I'm going to track it for several weeks until he finally sees that he's buying a TON of junk!!! chips, crackers, and anything else he wants as he trolls the stores. By for now!

01-02-2005, 08:03 PM
Hi everyone. Where to begin? To answer some of your questions about my school...I go up to school in Northern Ohio and I live in TN. So I have about a 7.5 hour drive everyother weekend, sometimes every weekend. Several of the girls in my class split a hotel room on the weekends. Since my car is in the shop I will fly this weekend, which will be a welcomed break.

CG-glad you shared that part of your life with us. My dad is bipolar but does not take the meds as he should. It is very frustrating to me. As far as not feeling well today, I hope that you feel better soon. The diabetes does not help things but you do need to take really good care of yourself since you are starting school soon. Do you take extra Vit C? Keep up with your exercise and diet and it will all come together. I just hate it that you have been getting sick so often lately.

Red-have you heard of body for life? I think that this program would be awesome for you. Go to The results were awesome for all the people I know who follow it. I have the book and I read it often. Muscle weighs more than fat. So I am saying 2-3 pounds per week but I know that muscle does weigh more than fat so the scale may not move. We need to go by how our clothes fit us ultimately. the hard part that I have following Body for Life is eating the six small meals a day b/c of my hectic schedule. This program consists of balanced small meals, weight training everyother day, and a 20 minute cardio session in b/t the weight training days. It is so simple to follow. I pretty much follow it, except I have not entered the competition. Go and look at the success stories. They are pretty encouraging. I love having a free day where I can eat whatever I want to. If you enjoy weight training then you would love this program. On that site you can also print off free exercise logs, etc. Anyway we will do something by Feb 14th. Your goal sounds very reasonable. I too would like to lose a bit more than what I have set total for now, but I do not want to set my goals to high, b/c I do not want to get discouraged.

KJK-as far as videos I love the Crunch Cardio boot camp and Tammee Lee's "I want that body"

GH-If you want a fun video that involves dancing try The Crunch-Salsa video. Go do that class that you mentioned at the gym, it will be good for you. I always say "I love to be sore- that is how I know I am alive!" I agree, it is so expensive to eat healthy in general. Men are horrible aren't they with their fast metabolism? Today when we were out around town my hubby was like let's go eat chinese, let's get a chocolate chip cookie at the mall, and so on. I resisted. Why do they love to sabatoge?

01-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Crime girl, just wanted to say that my weight I gave you on my ticker, or when I posted the ticker, was my Sunday weigh-in number. And, that number was. . . choke, sputter, gasp, cough, ok, ok, I'll say it! gosh darn it! . . . 72.8 kgs!!!! I do NOT want and do not expect to say that EVER again! :rofl:

little grasshopper
01-02-2005, 09:20 PM
Red - I know what you mean about not wanting to ever have to admitt your weight again!! I have done the body for life program Stormy is talking about too and I liked it a lot. I need to bring my book back out.

Stormy - Thanks for the video advice - I'm going to look it up. I'd LOVE to learn to salsa!! I have to LEARN how to do most dances...except two stepping - that must have been bred into the genes :) As for the class, I'm going to give it a week and then take it. I seem to be having trouble with the fibro. I have to build slowly or I wake up hurting in places I didn't even workout! It's frustrating but I know I can progress to a high level of fitness...after all I had it when I tested for 4 black belts and was training 3 hours a night - I can get back there. :) I've just never let myself "do nothing" for so long so there is a lapse between what I think I can do without killing myself and what I can ACTUALLY do. As for men and their eating - my best friend's husband just told her to "do what I do, eat cereal for a month - you'll lose weight...." He's lucky he didn't lose a limb!! :) :)

Crime girl - Does it seem to you that there are more and more people with BP? I wonder if it's better diagnosis or something else we're doing that is causing the frequency?? At any rate I'm very glad you got help and are taking your meds!! And no worried bringing that kind of info here :)

okay I'm going to bed now. Turning in early so i can workout before work tomorrow. See you all then!

01-02-2005, 09:38 PM
Oops GH, I forgot that you have fibro. So that class may be too much for you. You just need to listen to your body and what it is telling you. You know it best. I think I told you before but I work with a lot of fibro patients and when I hear what other PTs have made them do in the past it drives me crazy. Not all therapists are educated in working with patients with fibro. I always suggest light cardio for my fibro patients building it up slowly, because as you know the whole pain cycle is so fragile. From what I have learned about you from your posts it sounds like you have things under control. Keep it up!

Crime girl
01-02-2005, 09:48 PM
All the chatter- I love this board. If you feel like you are doing it on your own then you are not part of this board. Anytime I feel discouraged you guys really get me back into it. Thanks guys!
As for the bipolar- I am glad everyone is so accepting. It is a hard thing if you don't take your meds- but if you do then it is really no big deal. It is still nice that I can tell you and not get a bad response. Wasn't sure how everyone was going to respond but did feel it was something that kind of explained who I am. Anyway- it is out there for the world to see and I am okay with that.
I am feeling a little better tonight- I finally broke down and took some Tylenol Cold and it helped. I am one of those people that refuses to take meds for colds and such until I just can't take it anymore. I don't know why I am like that but I sure am. :lol:

red balloon- You are sounding motivated and driven to lose weight. Good for you! A challenge between you and stormy sounds like a great idea. Can we make side bets on who will win? Just kidding. :lol:
I got your weight number and don't get discouraged! You can do it! :cheer:

kjk- Having a roomate that is bipolar is a challenge I am betting- especially if she misses her meds sometimes. There is not a lot you can do except be there for her when she crashes and try to understand that her thinking rationale is a lot different from yours when she does crash. If she is like me, her thinking process won't make a lot of sense.

I like your plan for the week- you and I seem to have the same ideas on planning. :D Do you like WW? I am thinking about joining and going to meetings because I am the type of person who won't cheat if I have to face someone and be embarrased that I cheated. Is WW easy to follow?
Also what does WATP mean? :?:

little grasshopper- I bet the weather up there is great! I really miss SC sometimes- I was raised in Spartanburg SC and I miss the mountain air. You are a nut sleeping in your yard but it sounds fun! ;)
I am so proud of you going to the gym and getting into exercising! :bravo:

I think you are right about more people being diagnosed.I hear about a lot more people with bipolar now then since anytime since I was diagnosed. Don't know if more people are realizing they have it or what?

stormy- Thanks for explaining about school but I am still confused. Do you go to school on the weekends and that is why you have to check into a hotel? Traveling that far is a long way for school- that takes real dedication! It puts a cramp on my "school is just too far to drive to today"excuse. :lol: I only live around 20 minutes away from my school.
To answer your question I am taking extra vitamin C and I think I am going to start doing the echinesea (sp) thing once I am better. My immune system really stinks! I am vowing right now that I am going to change that- I hate being sick! :^:

It is funny you mention Body for Life because last time I lost weight is was with that program. I think I am going to dig my book back out as well. You are so right about the success stories- they are motivating!

Okay folks-
One last thing- I am an exercise beginner and want to do a tape. What do you recommend for someone who is my weight and pretty darn sedentary to get started?

More later-
:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-02-2005, 10:23 PM
thanks stormy - you're one of the few people I've met that does understand that just because I CAN do it today, doesn't mean it's okay for me to. I'm still learning the boundaries but doing MUCH better with it. For the most part I do really well. So far, I have only normal exercise tightness this time around. I'm building quickly, just a little at a time. Before I would have started with more than I'm doing right now. It's actually nice to walk out of the gym feeling better than when I went in :) :)

thanks for the advice!!

01-02-2005, 10:23 PM
CG, WATP stands for Walk Away the Pounds. KJK can let you know more about it. I think it is a video tape or audio tape. I think that is a great beginners video from what I have read. As far as school is concerned, I am working on my Doctor of Physical Therapy. When I began my hubby was still in school so I needed a program that would allow me to still work. The program I attend is on the weekend (usually every other). It is far away (7.5 hours) but it is the only one in the country that I could attend and still work. So this term I am taking 7 classes, plus working full time. If I were to miss one weekend it would be like missing several weeks. it is very intense. So it makes losing weight at this time very difficult for me. I have wanted to quit so many times since I have started but I have not yet. I have one more year of classes and driving. I must have been nuts when I started this school!

01-02-2005, 10:26 PM
CG, the website is It is a video. Cost is about $40.

Crime girl
01-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the info stormy..
I will check the website out.

01-02-2005, 10:45 PM
Thanks Stormy! You beat me to the punch!

CG, WATP is a beginner walking program that you can do right in your own home. It's good for me, because with my asthma, I can't walk at a brisk pace outside or the asthma flairs up and I'm dying after about 5 minutes. It is mostly walking in place, with some side-to-side motions and knee lifts. I have the 2 pack DVD, which contains one mile, two mile and three mile walks. I've never stuck with this much, as with everything, but for tomorrow I'm going to go back to the two mile walk when I get up, and see how it goes. It's great for getting you moving at your own pace, and advancing as you see fit. But I'm going to try out some other DVDs as well....

Also, CG, right now I'm just doing WW online. I joined about 2 years ago and attended meetings every Sunday. It is great for accountability sake, because you pay to be there and weigh in. I just wasn't happy with my group leader, and that was the only meeting that fit in my schedule at the time. So I'm doing WW online, which basically allows you to create a profile, track your weight progress and if you're eating the right points per day. They offer two plans, the Flex Plan and the Core Plan. I'm doing Flex, which means I can eat 30 points/day (points calculations are made based on calories, fat and fiber). Your point allowance is based on your weight. Plus, there are 35 Flex points per week that can be used at any time (if you're having a bad day and cheat, or if you have an event, you could use all then). The online program also allows you access to all of their WW recipes and articles. Plus, with WW, I have found a website called, which lists both recipes and points values for several foods at fast food and nicer eating establishments.

Wow, that was a long post -- sorry to those not interested in WW. CG, hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions. You and I are on similar plans, as well as at similar weights. Perhaps we should have a competition like stormy and red?!?!?! :)

Have a great night to read for a bit and turn in early....keep up the good work, ladies. You are all doing great!!!! :-)

Crime girl
01-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Thanks for all the great info-
I think I might try WW in my area and attend a meeting and see what happens. It is good to know if I not thrilled with the meetings I have another option online. I think I just need something a little more structured. The plan I am trying to follow now is self created and not sure if it is working to well.
The WATP sounds interesting-the tapes are good? I can't always walk outside, although I prefer to do that, so I need an alternative. Also, I get bored doing the same things. I looked at the website but I am always hesitant of anything I don't know anything about. ;)

As for the challenge- I would absolutely love it and if you are interested I am ready to rumble. :lol: I need a little extra incentive to keep on my plan and maximize my weight loss. Let me know if you are interested and we can set it up. :D

01-03-2005, 07:45 AM
Hi everyone. I'm back from work. Really have to do more work here at home but only have 40 mins now before I have to get to sleep in order to be up at 4:30 tomorrow. I think I can leave the work till tomorrow after all, thus. . . time for a little posting! You all are so chatty, it's great. I really, really need to have all this talk about losing weight going on around me. I'm so glad the thread hasn't turned into only talking about life, not that there's anything wrong with that, but it is important that we lose this weight we all want to, right?!!?


Crime girl, you're great. You're sounding so determined. I really hope to see that weight melting off you. I'm sorry I don't know really any videos to recommend. I don't have anything new. Always like the old Cindy Crawford one, the first one. You may like it. There's no jumping around so you can do it at any weight. Ok, there are some leg swings and so but you can just do what you can do. Move your leg just a little bit if you like and you can work up to more expansive moves later. It uses light weights and is mostly about body sculpting but you will definitely work up a sweat. Yeah, actually, I really like that tape and think I'll get it out for myself again. It's very artistic with lots of music and interesting filming effects and Cindy is just so pleasant and friendly and real. So, why don't you try that. If you get tired before she's done with a set you can just lie there listening to the music. It's really quite fun.

I love to hear that you and kjk are thinking of doing a challenge together too. I will root for both of you! And yes, please make bets on us. It'll keep me going. I'm trying my best to keep up the motivation and the desire to lose again. It is really hard though.

kjk -- sorry to hear you have asthma. I used to get that bad too but I was smoking back then. Now, dust will kick it up but I tend to be ok. Also think I know when and what sparks it and have learned to avoid them. Do you know what aggravates yours? Thanks for the WATP video explanation. I was wondering how you walked to a video. It sounds like a great idea for people who are housebound for whatever reason or just starting out with exercise. Like I said to Crime girl, I think a challenge between you would be a great motivator. I felt a little bad going off just between me and stormy but if we all have little challenges going it'll be great for motivation and encouragement I think.

That WW online sounds interesting too. Is it expensive? I need structure but not too much. I'm vegetarian. Are there plans for that too?

stormy -- wow, your work and school sounds so tough. I can understand how hard it is for you to lose weight. Or rather, it means you have to have a special plan to lose because you are up against so many more obstacles than many of us have. I often think I am up against a lot too and maybe I am but they say there is never a GOOD time to do anything really. We have to learn to make the best of the situation we have instead of putting our dreams on hold. Tomorrow is not guaranteed us. Really, we are basically not where we want to be because of hardships, obstacles. If it was easy, we'd all be in perfect shape, no? If my work involved riding 8 horses a day I would definitely not be overweight. Instead, in involves sitting for hours and hours and hours. So I have to learn to make the body (looks and health) with the lifestyle I have, making changes where I can, whether that means eating less or exercising more, whatever I can do. I am really bad at that. I get so obstinate, so bothered that I can't have it the way I want it.. . oh well, sorry, got off on a little rant tangent there. . .

Oh, and yes, I do know body for life. The thing is, being vegetarian, that book doesn't give much for vegetarians I think. I like the general idea of it though and the 6 meals a day is what I have to do. I think I have to start putting more of the knowledge I have to work, mainly. Those pictures in that book, and I have the video are very inspiring though, aren't they? I'll check out the Web site for any free downloads too. Thanks!

As for my low goal, I know I am wimping out but I know myself too and my life is just so stressful. If I perceive something to be yet another stress, yet another pressure, another deadline hanging over me then I know I'll rebel. If I perceive it as easy and doable, a cinch, whistling through I'm much more likely to actually do it. That's why strict diets don't really work for me. Like today, I kind of allowed myself anything I wanted to eat, but because I felt like I could eat anything I had a very clean day, no sugar, no junk and I walked at breaktime and even ate fresh veggies! Hurrah!

grasshopper -- your nap outside sounds like so much fun! And great to hear you've made friends at the gym. keep having fun and you won't think of it as exercise. You're playing! Remember that? I like your idea about the goal of miles pedaled or steps walked. I will try to get my bike uncovered and ridable this week (within the next three days) and try to find my pedometer.Yes, set goals for each day and tally it up by the 24th for one goal.


Well, sorry to run but I've got to get to sleep. Good night all. I know you'll be writing away while I slumber!

01-03-2005, 07:45 AM
Good morning all!

I just finished walking 2 miles with WATP -- whoo hoo! I was not real thrilled when my alarm went off at 6, but now I feel much better, knowing I accomplished something that before, I would have given up on....

Just wanted to share this mini-success with all of my new friends! Hope you all have a great Monday - keep moving and remember why we're doing this! Together we can make it through!!!!

kelly :)

01-03-2005, 07:47 AM
kjk!! GOOD for you!! :cp: :cp: That is awesome, getting up at 6 to walk! Wow! I know how hard it is exercising first thing in the morning. You are inspiring. If you can do this I may give it a try for sure!

Again, :bravo: to you!!

little grasshopper
01-03-2005, 08:44 AM
kjk - LOOK AT YOU GO!! :dancer: :dancer: Just walking like crazy!! You're inspriring, getting up that early to exercise :) I complained when I had to get up at 7:00. You've got me ready to go now :) :) I think I've seen the tape too and it always looked interestin. My mom use to have some cassette tapes that she played while she walked outside. She always said they were fun and motivating. They reminded her to pull in her tummy, tighten the abs...and all that fun stuff.

Stormy - my hat goes off to you. You've accomplished a lot at school already. One more year!! Hopefully, that will fly by! As for the weight loss, you have somethign you didn't have before - US. We're here for you and we know this is a hard hard time to try anything structured. We'll help anyway we can!!! You're already doing great by setting a strong foundation before you start back. Just think - this time next year you'll be finished :) Be strong :)

Crime girl - feeling better yet? I make a really good honey, whiskey and lemon juice :) Let me know if I need to send it over.

okay guys. I hurt my finger. I realize this is nothing too horrific. But I have to USE that finger all day long. I pulled the meat away from the nail. It's going to be a fun day at work. First I have to use that second skin, burns like **** stuff on it. It hurts all the way to your toes!!! Then it'll be okay. Just thought I'd share. I'm like the little girl on Sound of music who can't sing because she hurt her finger :)

I'm drinking my protein shake and heading for the gym in 30 minutes. It's the best food I've found for keeping me energized while I'm there and it actually tastes good.

Red - the fit for life program I metioned to Crime Girl is good for vegetarians I think. If I remember correctly that was the problem my brother had with it. He is not use to eating so little/no meat and he didn't pay attentio to getting enough protein. It's goal is to have to you eat whole, fresh foods and not combine certain things, to help in speedy digestion. I did it for a bit when I was younger, and basically am doing it now, except with more meat and less grains. I love eating that way - you never feel sluggish after a meal at all, and you're energy stays pretty level. Oh, one change I made is that they only want you having fruit before noon...I can only eat pears and prunes...I'm not eating that many prunes :) So I do have the fruit I just stop early and switch to veggies and stuff.

okay guys, I'm rambling now and using you to not exercise. I'd better get going. OH and I MUST take my vitamins!!!

Crime girl - for your immune system - tap your sternum between your chest semi firmly several times a day for a few seconds. and stay completely AWAY from sugar of any form. It drops the immune system for 5 hours after you eat it. And like stormy said, get that vitamin C in there :) C is also wonderful for allowing the body to handle stress. When I was in school I was on mega doses of it (I warn you though, if you take too much C for your body, you WILL know :) you'll be running to the toilet with TP in BOTH hands) I needed the mega doses because of the stress.

okay off to work out :) BF says my butt is getting smaller - I told you I have no butt!

Crime girl
01-03-2005, 10:41 AM
WOW! I had a rough night last night! I woke up at 4am and couldn't get back to sleep until 6:30am. I have never had trouble sleeping before- I wonder what is up with me.

red balloon- I should have hopped on the board last night and tried to talk to you. I keep forgetting you are off synch with us. :D
I think I will look into a Cindy video- I am sure if they are not currently marketed I can grab one off ebay. Thanks for the suggestion!
As for my bet with kjk- I think it will help motivate us as well- I think yours with stormy is a great idea!

kjk- Great job!! Exercising in the morning always makes me feel better for the whole day! :bravo: :cp: :cp:
Let's kick our challenge off between us- what do you say? Do you want to do a challenge on which one loses more or which one follows their plan for the most days this month? Either way is good for me if you are still interested in doing it. ;)

little grasshopper- Thanks for the tips on how to feel better and get healthy. I will do them! Is the fit for life program based on a book by the same title? If so- I have seen it in the bookstore. Maybe I should check it out. :)
I am so sorry about your finger- that really stinks especially because you work with your hands. :sorry: I hope it heals quickly! Poor girl- I feel bad for you. :^:

Well today I feel a little better and the fever has broken so I am getting out there and walking today! I am going to buy myself some extra strength vitamin C supplements and stay away from sugar and I WILL feel better by the end of the day because I am simply tired of feeling bad. :D

Today is motivation day so I thought I would post a few suggestions that I got off some other web sites on how to stay motivated and meet your goals:

* Write a pledge out to yourself of what you will accomplish this month and sign it.
* Always eat breakfast
* Keep a food journal of what you eat
* Keep a seperate entry for how you felt when you were eating- helps identify emotional eating.
* Before pics and pics placed on fridge, mirrors, etc.
* Buddy up with someone for added inspiration
* Make a contract with a friend or family member- the example I read was a daughter who gave her mom $50 and told her to give her $5 everytime she lost 5 pounds. It got her started and motivated to lose weight.
* Reward yourself for following the plan
* Reaffirm frequently your goals

Hope these help some- who has others??

Okay - well the quesiton for today is:
If someone was forced to describe me as an animal- which animal would they say I am like and why?
(freaky question- but fun!) :lol:
Have a great day everyone! I will be on later and thanks for all the support! I couldn't do it without you guys.

By the way- I weighed yesterday and I lost 3 pounds. Hooray!!!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-03-2005, 11:00 AM
Crime girl - I'm so glad your feeling better!! You're pumped and ready to go and it's exciting to all of us :)

I went to the gym this morning and there was a MAN :) It's an all girl gym. He was staring at every person there but not in a freaky way..more in the "man I've got the best job in the world" kind of way. It was funny! It was also funny how shocked I was to talk in and see a man :)

okay, We've played this game at my old job, believe it or not...if I were an animal they all said I'd be a springer spaniel. I'm not sure if I'm still the same. I think I'd be a monkey or an Australian Shepard. Everyone tells me that Mac and I have exactly the same personality. He even use to have morning allergies with me :) Very active, smart (if I do say so myself) he can't spell worth a damn though, thick along the midsection, and smiling most of the time. Also a bit nervous at times. Loves affection!!! Very playful. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with!

I feel so good since I worked out today!! It's going to be in the 70's. Yes, we're the same place that had ice until last friday! I'm taking my bike to work for sure!! I just have to get it on top the car into BF's new bike rack!

See you guys later today!!

01-03-2005, 03:54 PM
Crime girl - just wanted to pop on to give you this. The old Cindy Crawford video or DVD at least is still available. Here's the link.

It's the Shape Your Body workout not the Next Challenge. That one is hard. As you can see, a lot of people say the tape is full of bad form etc but others love it. I say, if there is bad form then you can fix it yourself. The artsy look of the tape makes up for it. I didn't get sick and tired of the tape like I do with so many. Anyhow, I liked it and I think it is very effective.

Oh, and here's the video link:

01-03-2005, 05:14 PM
Hi everyone. You are all posting like crazy. Everyone is pumped! I love it!

CG, congrats on the 3 pounds. Woohoo!!! Also, if you have not bought your Vit C yet, make sure to buy a bottle of it that says Vit C with rosehips. It is more powerful.

Little GH, congrats on going to the gym again. Yeah!!! Watch that you do not get an infection in that finger. Also, I wanted to thank you for the encouragement. I will need a lot of it beginning Friday.

Red-good for you for walking at breaktime. Sounds like you also ate well. Way to go!

KJK, great job waking up and exercising. Exercising in the morning, before you eat, is the best way to burn fat according to many studies.

01-03-2005, 05:22 PM
Well one of my resolutions was to get in bed by 11. Well I got into bed by 11:00 but tossed and turned all night long. I hope tonight is better.

People would probably say that if I were an animal I would be a dolphin. Anyone who knows me knows that I LOVE WATER. I lived on a boat for several years of my life. It is part of me. Also dolphins seem to be laid back. I am usually pretty laid back. I also like to smile a lot. Look at those dolphins they are always smiling. Also dolphins are known to try to pull people away from danger. I am like that. Sometimes I want to try to save the world, however I long ago realized that I could not. Just trying to help others in little ways is the reason I practice physical therapy.

01-03-2005, 05:27 PM
Hi all!

CG, Little GH, Red, Stormy -- thanks so much for your cheers! That was so encouraging to me! Every little bit helps! Now we'll see if I can keep it up!

Little GH - sorry to hear about your finger! That second skin stuff can sure smart! I can imagine that it was probably pretty odd seeing a man at the gym! Hopefully he's there for the right reasons! :)

CG - that stinks about not getting good sleep. Perhaps now that your fever has broken you will get a better night's sleep tonight...I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya! As for our challenge, let's try out both -- one of us might lose more weight and the other might be better on their plan! What the heck, why not? :D

Red - trust me, if I can get up early to workout, anyone can! I don't mind getting up in the morning to get ready for work, but to workout was a killer! I think that if I can make it through this week, I'll be committed to doing it!

Stormy - I was going to say dolphin as well! Mostly because I'm a collector and have dolphin stuff everywhere. And they are so friendly and happy most of the time! I, too, love water....but I'll try and come up with a really off-the-wall answer later! :D

Hope everyone is having a great day! As for motivation, looking at pictures of myself is motivation enough. I never want to look like this again! That, and I'm still petty and get jealous of little skinny women! :)

Have a great night -- keep sticking to your plans and the results will follow! Thanks again to you all for the great support!


01-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Hi Everyone!
Well I did do my hour this morning at the gym. I was still 231 which was exciting not to be more. I ate kind of bad at work. They had pie, and cake and pasta. I ate it but at least had very small portions so hopefully it will be ok. I have eliminated red meat and eggs.

Its hard for me to be motivated. SOme days its hard to drag my butt to the gym. With impending divorce and such uncertainty in my life, its easy to want to crawl under a rock.

I know sleep and feeling rested is important. Some days I sleep in and dont apologize for it. It does seem to help with stress along with long bubble baths.


Crime girl
01-03-2005, 07:04 PM
How is everyone this glorious day??
I just got back from taking bf to work and shopping for tennis shoes- which I hate to do. I can never pick a pair I like! They all feel good in the store but Boy are they mean when I get them home. It's like they get an attitude and start giving me problems and blisters. I couldn't find any today that could trick me into buying them so I am still stuck with crapped out shoes. :mad:
( I promise I have not totally lost my mind)

little grasshopper- I assume that guy in your gym works there right? Wow- he knows how to land a good job. Women as far as the eye can see and no competition. :lol:
You are doing so great going to the gym- pat yourself on the back- you deserve it! :D
Okay, for your animal - I understand the dog references- I think I am like my dog Charlie- but how in the world are you like a monkey? :dunno: Do I want to know? :lol: Well you get to be any animal you want so you can be one if you want to. No spaniel for you.

red balloon- you are so sweet looking that up for me. Thanks! :lucky:
I will give it a try and let you know what I think. I am ready to try something new so this will be perfect.

stormy- Thanks for the tip on the vitamin C- I am about out so when I buy it I will look for rosehips.

kjk- you are on! Okay- how about we get 1 point for making each of our goals? exercise, water intake, food consumption? Then weight loss too! Great idea! I am even more pumped now if that is possible and I was about to shrug off tonight's walk. No way I am doing that now! :D

susanne- Don't be too hard on yourself- at least you went to the gym and that will help a lot with the office food.
As for motivation- I know you can do it! You know you can do it! Don't let life run you- you run your life. :D One step at a time and allow yourself to be human and make mistakes and it will happen. ;)

Well-I always end up writing these epic novels and I know you guys have got to be groaning when you see the length of my posts. I will stop here and get on later to talk more.
I need to go to take some more meds and let Charlie in from the backyard before he tunnels under the fence in an attempt to escape. (The funny thing is he ALWAYS tunnels into the neighbors fenced in backyard and is still stuck). :lol:
More later-
:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-03-2005, 07:39 PM
Hi everyone! Lots to read :) I love it. Crime girl - have you seen the size of MY posts :) you got nothing to worry about :)

Finger made it through the day :) Thanks for the concern :) :) second skin stuff is eeeeevil!

Susanne - I take lots of bubble baths too and no harm done giving yourself extra time to sleep. You'll need it during times of stress - and you sure have some. You're doing a great job though. Sounds like you're taking control and doing well. We're here for you. I can't imagine this is easy but we're all here. Talk to us anytime!!

Crime girl - glad you're feeling better!! About me being like a monkey - see, I like to throw shi....just kidding! I like to play, and I love shiny things :) I'm really hairy too :) just kidding :) I really do love monkey a lot though!!! They're sooo smart and so feeling.

I know I haven't said hi to everyone -forgive me, I'm trying to run out the door to make to my first yoga classs. Dont' want to flunk on the first night.

See you soon!

01-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Hi everyone. One good motivator is to reward yourself after so many pounds lost. For example, when I lose my 10 pounds by Feb 14th I will reward myself with something (I do not know yet), but it could be clothes, a massage, a pedicure, etc.
For me just thinking of wearing shorts this summer is a great motivator. Another good motivator for me is the program that I am in. As GH probably knows, we spend a lot of time touching each other. There is nothing more uncomfortable then knowing that your lab partner may be a guy. I will never forget in undergrad school when I was paired up with a guy on the day we had to learn/practice gluteal massage. I think it scarred me for life!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone sounds like they are doing awesome. Susanne, do not get down on yourself. You are doing awesome despite all that you are going through.

little grasshopper
01-03-2005, 10:24 PM
Poor Stormy!! I was the table dummy when we did glute massage - so everyone in the class was looking at my rump! I'm sure they were trying to figure out how I could have a waist bigger than my butt :) I can relate though - we did an ab thing and I was partnered with a guy. You had to relax your abs and they felt for something - i can't even remember what we were doing...all I remember is that he kept poking me in the stomach, saying "you're holding it're holding it in.." and I kept going "no." "no." It's all I could think of to say!

Guys if you're looking for a yummy way to cook chicken..I put several pieces in a slow cooker with a tiny bit of water and salt and pepper and turned it on low and let it cook over night. It's SOOOO good!! I'm having to fight BF for it. You can add veggies if you want but it's yummy just like that.

Did the yoga class tonight. It was great! I had a bad mirror - must remember to NEVER stand in front of those mirrors again. They made me look really really fat! And made my boobs look HUGE!!!! I'm trying to relax but thinking "man, are they REALLY that big???"

Better get to bed. I'm going to do pillates tomorrow and work upper body on weights. Oh, I also rode my bike 5 miles and did 40 minutes of weights. I'm almost doing a "normal" weight workout :) Physical fitness test is Wednesday A.M. Wish me luck :)

Crime girl
01-03-2005, 10:49 PM
WOW little grasshopper- you are like robo-exerciser now! Good for you..What are you taking that is making you so able to do all that and can I have some?
I am still dragging around the house like a zombie- I am starting to annoy myself. Geez!
I have a question for you - I got a yoga DVD because I want to learn yoga as a stress reliever and one of my friends who does yoga laughed at me because she said it is impossible to learn yoga like that. Is this true?

stormy- I am all about rewarding yourself when you meet your goals. If I meet mine at the end of January I am getting a massage.
I would freak if I had to let some guy play with my abs. First he would need a roadmap to find them :lol: Anyway- poor thing!

Well - I will now bore you with the details of my life- Stop here if you just don't really give a fig. :lol: I managed to stay on my eating plan today and I am counting calories to make sure I am not overdoing it. Today I only ate 942 calories and I am going for a walk in a few minutes. :D I also got in 8 glasses of water today so I am happy. If I can manage this until Jan 31st I will definitely meet my goals. ;)

Alrighty,well- just wanted to check in.
kjk- that is 3 points for me for did you do? well- 2 points and I will claim the other after my walk. ;)

More later happy people! You guys rule!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-03-2005, 10:59 PM
Little GH, he was probably palpating your sacral promontary. That is where you go right under the umbilicus and push down and in towards the pubic bone. Oh yeah I remember that one :dizzy: Okay, I feel better knowing that you were the example in front of everyone :p Good for you for going to that yoga class, that will be awesome for the fibro :cp:

Cg-I am so proud of you :bravo: You did great today. Do not go too low on your cals. You do not want your body to think that it is starving :no: When your body thinks it is starving you will begin losing muscle instead of fat and your body will store the fat.

little grasshopper
01-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Hi guys!

Crime girl - little miss goody goody - you were awsome today :) :) YOu GO GIRL!! :) sorry, had to get that out :) :) As for learning yoga on a tape. I've mostly done yoga on tapes and I wasn't lost in class tonight - she didn't move me around any, and she was moving others a bit. I don't think it's as relaxing to do it on a tape - but then we had two people making all kinds of noise during the relaxation they were packing up to leave. Some people got ticked with them... you avoid THAT on a video :) I say, do the tape and see if you like it. Try some of the poses in front of a mirror because it's easy to hold your shoulders too high and that changes everything! I have an internal fight with my shoulders :) :)

Stormy - You may be right. It's a blur to me now....luckily he was a very kind student and massage therapist. Are you getting ready for your trip or trying not to think about it? Just need to know if we shoud keep your mind of it or pump you up :) Thanks for the advice on the yoga. I use to love doing it...back before I was 1 1/2 me's. It's a little harder now but I still love it. I feel stronger at the end and more relaxed. Tomorrow is pillates. We'll see if it's better in a class. Different mirror this time, that's for SURE!

Red - you must be at work right now. I hope you're having a great day!!!

Well I need to hit the sack. I'm tired from all this moving :) See you all tomorrow.

01-03-2005, 11:15 PM
I am here! I couldn't ride this morning. I am so bummed! It's been a week now and I really wanted to get back riding. Couldn't because it was closed for New Year's holidays and today, after going all the way out there in the dark and cold, the ground was too frozen. I would have had to wait for hours . So I came home and have been sitting here in front of the computer knowing I have things to DO and just starting to feel more and more depressed!

I get stuck a lot, just don't do anything at all, thinking all the time, reading posts, getting lost in all the possibilities out there, forgetting I have to get a move on it.

susanne -- I understand what you're going through. I'm not going through a divorce but with my job it's probably similar. Things look very bad and I need money and don't have other work. My attempts, though feeble, lead no where it seems. The anxiety paralyzes me. The efforts I do make seem so feeble, so meaningless. It's scary, the not knowing if any day I may go in and will have no job or some non-choice as to hours, days to work etc.

My one bright spot, riding my horse, I couldn't do though seeing her is nice. It also, however, makes me think how I don't want to give this part of my life up, though it is what all the worry comes from because I need so much income to keep her. It seems like a Catch-22 and though I try to talk myself into, it'll be OK, it'll be Ok, it's scary. The weight loss, exercise, eating right, it all seems so unimportant in light of needing work, needing money AND both in a way that I can still ride. Well, now, how does that relate to you? Well, I think I was trying to say that the anxiety is similar and I have no motivation because I'm worried and scared all the time.


Oh, poor pitiful me. What a lot of moaning, eh? Got to just get going, do something! anything! but stop sitting around thinking in circles!

01-03-2005, 11:51 PM
OK Red you have forced me to crack the whip :rollpin: I know your job is important for so many reasons but you have to take care of yourself. Instead of sitting around the puter and thinking go for a run! It will help clear your mind and help some with the anxiety. Why don't you give it a try :shrug: As soon as possible get on your horse and ride, ride fast. Try to put things in perspective. You are having such a tough time at work and I hate it for you :( I hate to see that you are so frustrated. I want you to know that I am thinking of you and praying for you.

01-04-2005, 12:09 AM
Red...okay you must have left the computer :dancer: So are you running or working :lol: ?

Crime girl
01-04-2005, 12:11 AM
Red balloon- I feel for you and I know uncertainty can really be a downer. I am with stormy though- get out of the house and do something. Get your mind off your job for a little while if you can. Mark my words though- things will work out. It will be OK-I promise. You may have to make some adjustments and things may not always work out the way you think you want them too but in the end it will be OK. Keep posting- get out your thoughts if it helps- we are here for you. :D

little grasshopper- I am so relieved that I can start with the DVD. The YMCA I go to has a class as well so I may try to catch that. How hard is pilates?

stormy- you are so right about eating too little calories. I didn't do it on purpose- I think I was just a little gung ho and went overboard. I am going to try to reach 1200 tomorrow. Thanks for looking out for me. ;)

Well I need to go to bed- just wanted to check on everyone one last time and say Goodnight! Hope you all had a wonderful day! :D
Tomorrow is another support day and it is also a day to talk about the reasons we want to lose weight. ( I am starting to sound like a camp counselor) So speak up ladies- lets remind ourselves why we are doing this to begin with. :D

I will post the question for tomorrow in the morning..
Goodnight everyone and Thanks!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-04-2005, 12:50 AM
Stormy, Crime girl, thanks so much! I had turned off my computer, ate a sweet potato with only 1 pat of butter and then sat down and did some proofing on a manuscript. I checked my mail on my cell phone (it's an awful habit) and found stormy's message (can only read one and if I found stormy's message then it can't be such an awful habit. . . ) It made me smile! I was going to go to the gym anyhow, just was moaning, but it really is helping me get out the door. Thanks so much for your support and prayers.

And Crime girl, your post made me smile again too. I hope it's going to be all right. And you promised, so I think it will be. :)

Yes, I know, I must sound like a nutcase or a total wimp but I do need to say these things because they're all so linked to the weight loss. Maybe I don't have total control of what happens in my life but I do have total control over what goes into my mouth and if I have the time, then I have control over whether I exercise. I really don't want to though. . . The lack of caffeine is major too. . .

Well, I also whipped up a protein shake and put it in a thermos and am taking that to the gym for after my workout. You see, all this optimistic thinking. . . i know that if I wait till I get back home that I will stop at a convenience store and buy food I don't need to eat. I'm thinking I should just buy a baby pacifier and stick it in my mouth! No, I think we don't even realize how our bodies our making us seek food and if it doesn't get the right stuff it keeps looking. I find that when I drink the protein drink or eat good food I feel weirdly!!! satisfied.

OK, gals, here goes. I will get to that gym, cold wind or no cold wind, icey roads or not. It is only a 45-minute walk and the sun is out and my efforts are not in vain! I am in training for bigger, bigger things. I just know it. Nobody else does though. :spin:

OH, and for a joke, just want you to know that my latest issue of Vogue just came. Now, if you ever saw me, you would be laughing your head off right now, because Vogue and me are about as far apart as you can get! I'm the jock in sweats or the cowgirl in muddy boots type and, well, let's just say fashion and I have a very steady, as in neverchanging neverchanging. But, I bought Vogue to try to expand my mind, not that I want to wear the things I see in there but to try to learn to express myself in more ways than the sorry repetoire I now possess. And I just thought, this was a way of training my mind to see beyond what I now see in the mirror. . . . it's not just the clothes, it's the 'tude, man!

Ok, gonna walk, then run and pump that iron! Thanks again guys. It means so much to me! :grouphug:

01-04-2005, 12:53 AM
Hi everyone...

Just wanted to check in real quick before bed - 6 am will roll around really quickly!!!

CG - 3 points for me today! I walked 30 min (2 mi.) this morning, then walked another 20 minutes tonight. Stayed right at my WW target of 30 pts, and drank 8 glasses of water! Whoo hoo -- go us!!!

Also, CG, I love pilates! I used to take a class at the Y, and it was really good. It makes you focus so much on your core muscles that you really feel your abs tightening. Unfortunately, it isn't offered to fit in my schedule any more, but oh well. I'm not sure how pilates and yoga compare - only have ever done abs yoga, and that was freakin' hard! :D

Susanne - glad to hear that you're trying to stick with us through this trying time. Don't worry -- we are here for you as support with not only weight, but anything you need. Lean on us!

Red - hope you're able to ride again soon! I know that must be a bummer for you. And hang in there with the job situation - things will work out. Trust me - I was in a similar situation to yours just recently, and things always have a funny way of working themselves out for you!

Sorry if I missed anyone - must get to sleep! Have a great night, thanks again to you all for being such a fabu support system!!!


01-04-2005, 12:57 AM
kjk :bravo:!!!! to you! What a powerhouse you are. I am now going to the gym and goin' whip this bod into a sweat!!

And kelly, I want to hear great things from you tomorrow morning (your morning) about how you pulled yourself out of bed and walked!! Yes ma'am. DON'T let me down! :no:

01-04-2005, 01:00 AM
Woohoo! See you are thinking better already :smug: Wow a 45 minute walk to the gym, that is a workout in itself ;) I know you are going through a tough time, but I firmly believe everything happens for a reason. Everything is a lesson, we just need to learn from it. We may not understand it. You are very right, it does have an effect on our eating habits. When I get back to school this weekl I will be a prime example, I am sure. We just need to remember to hang in there. Being healthy and fit will change everything. Like you said we are training for bigger, better things. It is okay to moan sometimes :smug: Let it out here instead of putting food in your mouth. This is why we are here. I rather you type away and moan instead of eating something you may regret later!

All right I need to keep my resolution of being in bed by 11. Good night and have a great day!

01-04-2005, 01:02 AM
Being the ref here: Day One KJK and CG tied at three points a piece. You are both doing so good. Keep it up!

01-04-2005, 06:22 AM
Well, I did it. Got to the gym and jogged 5K and did chest/back weights, crunches and even some stretching, which I hate to do because I'm so incredibly tight!

Walked both ways too. I admit I had a sweet bean paste thing on the way back but that isn't that bad. Now, I'm sitting here sucking on these sweet potato candies, which are all natural but again, not that bad. The sweet stuff is going to stop there though, promise!

Special thanks to Crime girl and especially stormy for the encouragement today. I trained at the gym like I used to for the first time in months. Of course, my strength is a lot less but I least I was pushing those weights around. Even the palms of my hands were hurting because all the callouses I had in the summer are almost totally gone. There were still a lot of people doing the traditional New Year's greetings, bowing and such, which I do too, because it's the first time we've met this year so it was nice to be there.

Now, to just keep on doing the same kind of thing over and over. The summer is great because I can fly there on my bike, no heavy pack with clothes, no heavy coat etc trudging home with but, oh well. . .the heat will be here soon enough I suppose. I love the summer. . . Ok, more work tonight, some little meal and I'm hitting the sack. Thanks for your help today, again!


kjk -- wanted to say again how great you're doing. walking both morning and night and sticking to your eating plan. This is what it's all about, isn't it? Now just multiply that by some more days and the weight will be coming off and you'll be on your way to the new you! wow, you really like pilates? I've never been able to do it long enough to get to like it. I know it's supposed to be real good and all but the video I had was so boring and the books, well, maybe I'll give them another look. do you really think things will work out for me? I need all the hope I can get. Anything to help me believe I'll get away from this horrible place intact and not the worse off for it. I really need that. well, good luck tomorrow, I suppose that'll be when you get up and read this!

crime girl -- you go ahead and sound like a camp counselor all you want. It's what holds us together. Just read your note about the yoga as a stress reliever. what does your friend mean, it's impossible to learn yoga like that, like what?, on a DVD? Of course you can, people do it all the time. All this stuff about fixing the postures etc. etc. it's not necessary, especially in the beginning. You'll have to be doing modified poses because of your weight and if you're as inflexible as me and besides the explanations in the books are usually great. Check out the Yoga Journal Web site for postures and you can learn all you need. Like grass said, you can use mirrors and such. Some people really get carried away with this stuff. I was doing yoga eons ago when I was a kid. Yoga is ancient, people didn't learn it in classes. :rofl: People nowadays think they know so much sometimes and it all has to be spoonfed them by "professionals". Mostly it's to help the teachers profit from a lot of unknowing people. I mean, a lot of people in poor countries have never done a yoga like move in their lives but spiritually they're light years ahead of people sitting around in yoga classes thinking they're nearer nirvana! It's what's in your head and the body will follow. Like they say, it ain't rocket science! Ok, just had to let a little steam off there. Thanks and no offense anyone! :lol:

Heh, what's this, 942 calories! Man, I would be looking to lunge at someone's plate to grab their food if I were trying to skimp by on 942 calories! I would have this crazed look and keep trying to swat down thoughts of food, food, FOOD!!! You've got to eat, kid! Don't try to go too fast. It'll rebound on you, and you'll be losing muscle as well. Take it nice and slow, move that booty like you're planning to. How tall are you again?

hmm, problems with tennis shoes? Wonder why that is. Have you considered getting fitted by a good running store? I did that in Seattle and they were great. You may have problems with the arches. Some shoes have very pronounced arches and if they aren't in just the right place for your arch, you will be in a lot of pain. And depending on the maker widths vary greatly. I can't wear any Reebok, for example, they're all too narrow and the arches are totally wrong for me. You should find a brand that feels good and stick with it. If you're getting blisters you may need a wide shoe. Nike, New Balance, Saucony all tend to be wide. Are you looking for real tennis shoes? No, right, you mean like crosstrainers or so, right? for your exercising? You can still get fitted at a store that has people that know about these kind of things. If, that is, you're in a big enough city to have speciality shops. Well, let me know and maybe we can help you find something. Shoes cannot hurt! That is the pits!

grasshopper -- You have really been working out, haven't you? Great going! Sorry I missed out and didn't say something sooner. Hope you weren't thinking I was ignoring your accomplishment. I just can't keep up and talk about myself at the same time and I certainly do enough of the latter, don't I. I! I! I! I! Oh yes, as I was saying, really great on the exercise. I know about those mirrors too. I'm pretty sure they put some of those mirrors up they have in the funhouses, the kinds that make you look bigger or smaller than you really are. Strange, I always seem to get the ones that make me look bigger and the little thing with her ribs showing next to me gets the skinny mirror, never fails! So, no way, your "boobs" are no doubt NOT "that big!" not at all. It's always the mirrors, yes, for sure. Take it from me. I know about these things, the tricks gyms play on people and such. . . ;)

Oh heh, sorry about that finger. What's this second skin stuff? And why does it hurt so much? Hope it's feeling better soon.

stormy -- I like the reminder on the rewards for weight loss and I especially like your post, "when I lose my 10 pounds by Feb 14th!" Thata girl!


Okay, gotta do some more work. Susanne, how are you doing? Please come in here and talk, especially when you feel so down you don't want to do anything. You don't have to have anything earthshaking to say to post here. Just take your cue from me! And, like stormy said to me, it's better to be typing, letting it out, then sitting around eating. I know this is a very rough time for you so please lean on us. Ok? :sunny: Things will get better.

01-04-2005, 07:45 AM
Good morning!

Red, here I's 6:42 here and I just finished another 2 mile walk. Boy, I'm glad I did it, because if I would have read your post and not done it, I would feel awful! So thankfully I did get up and walk, but boy, was it a struggle! There were so many times during that 30 minutes that I was ready to crawl back into bed...but I stuck it out and think I'll be better for it! Thanks for the encouragement!!! I do really like the pilates class I took, although I hate the video I have. I think a lot has to do with taking the class with friends and knowing the instructor - makes it more fun! And yes!!! :) I absolutely think you will make it through this current situation. I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you!

Stormy - thanks for being our ref! It's so great that these little challenges can keep us all motivated. When my alarm went off, I thought "I've got to get all of my points today to keep up with CG." :D

CG - we both had great days yesterday -- a great start to the week, and to our challenge! :) Now let's keep it up! I'm at 1 point for today, with 2 glasses of water already (sheesh, walking so quickly dehydrates you!). Keep up the good work, we can do this. ;)

All right, gotta run and get ready for work. Excellent work everyone - let's make today a great one!!!!

kelly :)

Crime girl
01-04-2005, 10:22 AM
What a beautiful morning I woke up to- I am healthy (somewhat), I have a roof over my head, food in the fridge, great friends and family including you guys, and a fluffy cute dog. What more could I ask for? I am blessed!

red balloon- Great job going to the gym and I am with stormy- the walk alone is a workout. :bravo: You are sounding better and I am glad. Life can be trying sometimes and I think you are handling it like a champ. Keep working it out in the gym and ride for therapy then in no time things will be much better. :D
Thanks for the website info and I know what you mean about people sometimes. The girl that told me that never has anything positive to say about anything so I don't even know why I listened to her. I am going to break my beginner yoga DVD out today and start doing it because I want to. ;)
As for the 900 calories- I think some of that has to do with the flu I am trying to shake. It definitely wasn't something I did on purpose! (And will probably never happen again). Today I am shooting for 1200 calories.
I think for shoes ( I do mean cross trainers- I just was raised calling all sports shoes tennis shoes) I am going to go to this place in town that in more of a sports store then trying the stores in the mall like Footlocker. Hopefully someone in there can help me. I am wearing New Balance now and I love them! I will try to get New Balance again.
By the way- you do not sound like a nutcase- I am glad you can get on and vent rather than eat something you will regret. We are hear for whatever you are going through so rant on my friend! It helps to get it out- I know. Just wait- I am sure this last semester will cause me some grief so my time will come. :lol:

kjk- great job with the points yesterday! :cp: Are you trying to best me in the morning? Think again! I am going for a walk as soon as I get off my computer and I am going to kick some butt today so be warned. :lol: I like having some healthy competition- It really motivates me! :cb:
Thanks for the info on pilates- I think I will just go the one at the YMCA and get in the back of the class in case I can't do the whole thing. ;)

stormy- Thanks for being the scorekeeper! :D I was laughing when I read your resloution to get into bed because I have a similar one. I am trying to go to bed by 11pm and get up at 6 am every morning. The other thing was I think we are on different time zones because your post was 12:00 my time and I paused for a sec to wonder if you knew it was so late. :lol:

Okay- well I know this isn't quite as long as my typical posts but I am hungry and need to eat as well as get another water so I can keep up with kjk. :p
I will be on later and post the question of the day. I hope you all have a wonderful day and keep posting! :D

:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 10:29 AM
wow I feel like I missed a whole day!!

Kjk - you walkin freak!!! You should keep a chart with your miles and total up how far you walk - that number's going to get big SOON. You're doing a great job!!

Stormy - how are you doing??? Nice reffing earlier :) How is your exercise going this week? I just read a lot - I'm sorry if it missed it!!

Crime girl - I was going to tell you the same thing red did...I went to a store that fits you for shoes, based on walking pattern and foot shape. (narrow heal, wide toe box). You can call around and see if there are any in your area - I'm SURE there are! Everytime I've gotten shoes there I wouldn't have picked the pair they game me, but a week later I was very very happy. I don't buy shoes without them now. As for pillates....It can be very hard but there are always beginner poses. It's a different kind of ab workout and you see results very quickly. But DON'T get the winsor pillates tapes...they are SOOOOO boring it's not even funny!!

Red - finger is good. thanks :) First though, you do not sound crazy!! Being in touch with your emotions is a GOOD thing, not a crazy one! Understanding why you eat is the first step in making a change. So tell us all you want :) We're strong, we can take it. :) We've also probably been right there and still are! I'm glad you're hitting the gym! When my job was really bad I became quite the runner! I handled the job stress much better when running regularly. I was able to let things role off my back a little more easily. Still sucked but I was in a better place to deal with it.

Well I'm going to pillates today. My lower legs are a bit sore but that's the only part. Yoga last night was great.

Someone please tell me why the do constant tests of the Emergency broadcast system...but on 9/11 no one used it!!!! Why do we have it???? I hate those tests! (we just had an unusually loud one).

anyway, I'm going for pilates today and upper body then I have to stop. They don't want you doing to omuch the day before the fitness test. I'll play along.

Better get going. Can only use you guys to get out of working out for so long before you notice :) :)

01-04-2005, 11:30 AM
Hi :)

RB, I hope today will be better for you (or tonight). You did a great job at the gym plus the walking :tread: I am very proud of you. Have you tried wearing lifting gloves while you are lifting weights?

KJK, you are off to a great start. The wonderful thing is that you will have more energy throughout the day.

CG, I hope that you can find the right shoes. Shoes are very important, especially the fit. You have to get the right type of shoe for your foot. Try to go to a speciality store. It is worth it to pay a little more. Did you sleep better last night?

LGH-Squeeze that tooshie! Don't forget that power house! Just kidding, you are doing so well. So Wednesday is your fitness test, huh? Don't get too sore before then. Do they include a body fat analysis? My scale has a body fat analyzer, so even though it may not be as accurate as underwater weighing, etc. I at least have something to monitor it. Thanks for asking about how my exercise is going. I am doing well. I just finished cardio and weights, yesterday I did Pilates and the elliptical trianer. I am dreading going to school on Thursday.

Michi, Susanne, SouthernBelle and everyone else, where are you? How's it going?

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 02:01 PM
Crime girl - I have to do this before I forget AGAIN! Yes, Fit for life is the name of the program and book that I'm talking about. They cover tons of stuff in the book - breathing and air and things like that. It's not just diet stuff.

Stormy - after this fitness test I think I'm going to pull out my body for life book and follow the exercise parts. I'll have two solid weeks of lifting and light cardio under me. And you can still prgress at a slower pace. I especially liked the interval training for cardio.

I'm glad we are so diverse in our programs and exercise plans. Gives us plenty of ideas and resources to pull from. And Stormy - the pilates class was MUCH better than the videos!! The teacher is great and the people in the class would just burst out laughing when they couldn't keep going anymore. It made things much more fun and funny! I'm so glad I went. Trying to get the house in order so I can walk around the lake before my first client today. It's going to be a late day for me so I need to get everything done early.

Well one of the doggies is drinking from the toilet. Better go.

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 07:23 PM
hi guys! looks like everyone is busy today. I hope you're all out shrinking as I type :) :)

I decided I need to get on here. BF is out mountain biking, I am too sore in my lower legs to push it anymore today so I have the evening to myself - which means time to eat. Trying to break that cycle. I'm here instead. I will drink tons of water tonight and not sleep a wink I'm sure.

Well I'd better get to the water and plan a good dinner :) Talk to you soon!

Crime girl
01-04-2005, 07:29 PM
Hi everyone! How is everyone today?
Where are you guys?
I did pretty good today except the exercise part and I don't think I am going to try to exercise tonight. I am still sick but I think I am getting better. I am going to continue to lay low for tonight and try to mend. :D
So- kjk I only get 2 points for today. :o That is the way it goes sometimes.

little grasshopper- I am going to look at that book. Thanks for letting me know what the title is. ;)

stormy- Thanks for asking and I did sleep better last night.
I will take your advice about the shoes and try to find someone who can make sure I buy the right kind.

Well- just wanted to check in and say HI!
I will be on later tonight.
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-04-2005, 07:37 PM
Good morning people. Really had a sleep-in this morning. Couldn't feel if I was too sore but knew I would be. My one cat acts like an alarm clock. It's her mission. She will not leave me alone until I'm up. It's so sweet, really, though terribly annoying. She doesn't want food or anything, just me to get up. She has saved me many a time when I went back to sleep after the alarm went off. It's spooky. Once I had my bicycle under the string to pull the light on and she actually climbed up on the bike and turned on the light. I'm not kidding. And it wasn't like she was just playing. That's the first thing I do when I get up, before I'm off the floor (Japanese-style mattress) is pull on the light. So, she was just doing the same. Okay, enough about my cat. . .

Well, nothing all too much happened since my last post except sleep, so it's over to you all! and what a bunch of inspiring people. You guys are the best!


kjk -- I am so glad you did it again this morning. This is unbelievable. Mega kudos to you! And I'm so glad you did it even though you hadn't seen my post and would have then felt bad had you not exercised. I was thinking you may not see it. Wow, what utter dedication! I was telling people yesterday I had to find my bike (it's under a pile of clothes) and get on that thing in the morning. Well, this morning, I was lying there thinking, how the heck am I ever going to do that? My room is freezing, I can see my breath. No heating in it so you can imagine it until I put the kerosene space heater on. Well, I usually have two space heaters, sometimes three under the covers with me, little furry ones, but that just makes it all the harder to get out from under the covers. One girl out at the riding club tells me she keeps her clothes by the bed and reaches out and puts them on under the covers, it's so cold! Whoops, caffeine-induced babble here. . sorry! kjk. Yes, well, you are doing so, so great. You're getting Crime girl revved you see. Hear you on the pilates class. Glad you have a good class that makes it fun.

Crime girl -- I'm like some hound dog or something. I love finding things on the Net. Here's a good article on shoe fit from the runners world site.,5033,s6-52-167-0-1689,00.html And here's a list of some other intersting articles on shoes and stuff. Thought they might be interesting for you:,5034,s6-52-167-0-0,00.html

What kind of dog do you have? Thanks for your support. Really. Yes, I am sounding better, and it's because of you all. I'm glad you are getting your yoga dvd out. Good luck finding good shoes and do eat more. Yes, it was probably because you've been sick. Hope you are feeling a whole lot better.

grasshopper -- I see you just posted. How's it going? thanks for your support too. Everyone is just so nice. I hear you with the running handling the stress. I think the other thing the gym does is, because I exchange words with so many people there and we go out for drinks sometimes too, it's like a little family. I get mail on my cell phone from some of the people too. It helps to give me something other than work, it's a sanctuary, a haven away from work that helps me to remember that there's a whole lot more to me than work. I've been at that newspaper for over 15 years and so, it has been a big part of my life and connected to all the other parts as well (because I'd write articles about people and things from the other areas in my life) but I have to think, it's not the paper itself, it's the writing, it's the readers really that is my life. We all tend to forget the readers. That's who we're working for, not the paper. Again, sorry for the tangent.

Pilates and yoga. You are really something too. As for the emergency broadcast tests, I suppose they are for in the event the major networks are knocked out and they still want to reach people through television or radio. When you say they're loud, is it the TV, the PA system? where are you hearing these tests?

stormy -- how are things with you? Great going on the exercise. You're all into pilates. Hmm. Yes, will have to try it again. Elliptical trainer. Do you find your feet go to sleep on that? Mine do, or one of them. That's why I don't do it. Just tend to jog at the gym. Why are you dreading going to school again? You're already up there, right? It sounds like a tough place to eat right. Do you have cooking facilities, a kitchen or so, a microwave? Please try to keep thinking of yourself and your goals. I know it's not easy. Far from it. Hang tough, kid! :strong:

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 08:03 PM
Hi Red! This may be a silly question but I take it you don't have central heat there? How do most people heat? It has been really really warm here. In the 70's today. I have a feeing we're going to pay for it though. It's been nice to get outside and do stuff. Bf has been mountain biking all week long. I don't blame him though. It's soo beautiful outside! I'm sorry it's freezing there...I'll try to send some warmth your way :) I can see how it would get hard to remember that you're writing for the readers - they don't pay the check. A lot times it's the boss you've got to make happy...makes it easy to forgot that unltimately you ALL have to make the readers happy.

Did you decided a goal for youself? As far as mileage, steps, points? I need to set a short term goal. The problem is that I can't deviate my eating any, and I am also governed as far as exercise. I'm already doing more than he wants me to be doing. It's just hard to get started and then only walk. I want to do so many other things. :) So far, so good. Maybe I need to set a goal that I will walk and not cheat at all until Jan 27. (that's when I leave for Arkansas to see my family, and most bets will be off for that trip :) I will be as good as I can but my grandmother will be doing the cooking and she knows every bad thing I love to eat! Mississippi mud pie and all.....I'm looking forward to it though. I'm going to set an apt with the doc so that I have an extra push getting back on track when I get back. My grandmother gives with food. That's how she tells you she loves you - she cooks your favorite foods all the time. She's a sweet, good, grandmother. There is no way I could go there and then inforce my way of eating on her.

Well I'm rambling. Sorry :) Just wanted to say hi and see how your day went!! Tell me all the positve things you did for weight loss today :)

01-04-2005, 08:12 PM
Grasshopper! Hi there. Still on? Quick reply. Heating here is mostly by space heaters, electric, gas or kerosene. Kerosene is probably the most popular, cheap and hot. Sure, some well-off people will have central heating I think, well, maybe not central but air conditioners that also do heat. There are also heated floors and that makes a big difference. But no, really, even big houses just tend to be heated by the room.

Ok, I will try to make a good day of today as well. Am just doing some work here, even before breakfast. Have to pick the horses of the year for 2004 and am looking over the races. Have to have my picks faxed in by noon.

I haven't set a goal yet. Have to hurry with that or it'll be too late. I think I like the idea (well not really! :lol: ) of getting on the bike and adding up the miles (kilometers) though I'm not sure I can do that. I don't think I have the thing hooked up to my bike that yes, I bought months ago, to calculate the distance. In any case, I can do minutes.

Why are you governed as far as exercise goes? Was it you with the asthma? How much do you weigh now? Only 150? And, I've heard of mud pie but what is it exactly? Sounds interesting! Oh, yes, allow yourself to eat your grandmother's cooking. Just don't overdo it elsewhere. Ok, gotta run, talk more later!

Ciao! :wave:

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 08:24 PM
I'm still here. Just playing on the computer. When I was cycling a lot I had a wireless computer. When the battery started dieing it would say I was going 18 mph (probably right) one minute and then 704 the next! Then it would say I was at 3..the funny thing is that my average never fluctuated much. My next computer was NOT wireless. I had to keep it covered most of the time though. Cycling for me had a 30 minute warmup period. So I was miserable and wanting to quit for the first 1/2 hour of my ride...a computer would have made that much worse. Funny thing is that I have a 5 minute warm up with running - and with mountain biking too. I guess the way you sit when cycling on a road bike made a big difference in how I breathed.

Tomorrow I've decided I'm going to get in the sauna after my fitness test. I'll drink tons of water! The test was moved to the end of the day, so why not? Will just move more toxins out of the body faster :)

Well I won't keep you, just excited to see someone on line :) Have a great day!!!! Get warm fast!!

01-04-2005, 08:38 PM
good evening ladies!!!

sounds like everyone is having a good day.

CG - no biggie about the exercising. everyone has those days, and I completely understand because you're sick. i know that i wouldn't be working out if i wasn't feeling up to par...don't sweat it. just get back into things when you're feeling better and i'm sure you'll pick up right where you left off.

to those of you checking out pilates classes - good for you! i find it very fun. like someone said (little gh, i think), it tends to be the kind of class where the people aren't quite as serious as during yoga, and can laugh at themselves if they can't quite do a move or hold it long enough. at least that's what i've found, and it makes the class really enjoyable.

thanks to those of you constantly boosting me and keeping me going! i'm telling you -- if it weren't for this group, i don't think i could do this. continuing to try and eat well, as well as exercise, isn't easy....but having this group makes me want to keep going and succeed! thanks as always!!! :D

have a great night!

kelly :)

01-04-2005, 08:40 PM
grass -- what is this fitness test you mention? Is it for work?

And kjk, hi there! Glad to hear we're helping you out. Everyone here is sure a big help to me too. Isn't the Net great? Being able to make friends and reach out to people through it? Well, I'll be making my day work for me while you're all sleeping. Look forward to hearing lots more from you all soon!

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 08:57 PM
hi kjk! you should be proud of yourself...I mean a real "look at what I did" kind of proud! You're having a great week!! Keep it up :)

Red - the fitness test is something at my gym. They'll check cardio, flexibility, and strength. They'll do weight, measurement and a fat percentage test with one of those pincher things. They do arm, inner thigh, and belly. Then she'll set a routine for me based on my goals...which are core strength, cardio fitness, and weight loss. I'll meet with her 3X and I can decide how to space them. I'll probably meet her next week and then in 1 month. I'm use to working out so unless she comes up with something really different I think I'd rather use her as a checkin and to bump me up to the next level in a month.

Go have a great day!!! Ride, walk, spin in circles - just move! :) :) You're doing a great job too!!! All this time without caffeine in the day. That's huge. I'm off it and scared to ever try it again - hard to believe how difficult it is to break the addiction to something so simple. Anyway, have a great day!!

01-04-2005, 09:08 PM
grasshopper -- thanks for the fitness test explanation. yeah, those things are good for a check if you're used to exercising. they're really great for beginners, people new to exercise. I tend to forget that some people are new to gyms and such. The gym has been quite an integral part of my life for over 20 years now and I think I will always want it in my life, or at least, some sort of regular exercise.

yeah, that caffeine is quite a drug. And I guess I have to realize what a difference it makes when I'm not hyped on it like I had been. I mean, really, I would down a strong coffee right before going in to the gym and I was really revved. I am sensitive to such things to begin with. People sometimes would ask if I'd been drinking that's how up I was! :lol: But I think back now and realize it's no good.

Just yesterday I was listening to a girl babble away and thinking she's got to get off the stuff. I think she's a nervous type anyhow but she told me she's been popping caffeine pills and I said that stuff is bad. Now I think this is how it's affecting her, babbling, disjointed sentences. It sounds all breathless and pumped, great for the gym but it's really bad for the body. I mean, it is a powerful stimulant. I hate the way the building magazines push all these stimulants and fat burners. If you look at a lot of the models in the mags, they tend to have bad skin, not really bad, but no luster and the pores are large. It's definitely skin that is reflecting a lot of stimulants in the diet and/or sugar. Too much of these "nutrition bars" and shakes and such instead of just good wholesome vegetables. I say to myself . . . And grasshopper, if you ever are tempted to get back on caffeine (which I doubt from the sound of it), just read that book Caffeine Blues and it'll keep you away!

01-04-2005, 09:49 PM
Hi everyone! This talk of caffeine reminded me of a tip I would like to share with you guys. I do not drink it but I though that this was interesting. A study at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston shows that you will stay more alert if you spread your consumption over the day instead of all at once. A few ounces hourly should help you stay alert. My hubby leaves with a travel mug of coffee each day and if he does not have that coffee watch out! I would assume that it would be difficult to have just a little bit throughout the day secondary to the inconvinence. Anyhow...

Red, do you sometimes ride your bike to the gym? I love my cats too. I have three also Panjka, Stormy, and Cosmo. They are so sweet. I love the way that they each have their own personalities. I start school Friday, but I am flying up Thursday. My car is still in the shop so I am having to fly in Thursday so I can make it to class Fri morning. I decided that since I am renting a car I will stop at a store and pick up some fruit and a couple of other healthy things to eat while I am up there.

KJK, you are doing great. Woohoo!!!

GH, good luck with your test and hit that sauna. I thought of you a little while ago. My hubby is watching tv in the other room and there was an emergency test. I have never thought about it before but it is pretty annoying. How's your finger today?

CG, I hope you feel better soon. When does your first class start?

01-04-2005, 10:26 PM
stormy -- yes, I love riding my bike to the gym but hate it when it's cold. That's why I love the summer and get to the gym a lot then, because the bike makes the trip there so short.

Love your cat names. Is that where you took your handle from? and Panjka, does that mean something? While we're on pet names. . . I have Mu, Shachi, Nozomi and Tetsu (normally called Tiger). Mu is the Chinese character for "nothing," one) because it was short for "buji" which means safe, and also because "nothing" as in she's all black and would hide in the closet as a kitten and not say anything and all I could see would be her eyes so it's like she wasn't there but was. Nozomi means "hope" and since i found her in a park nearly dead from starvation but she came up to me and rubbed her head against my leg and I thought all that was keeping her alive was her hope that someone would take her in. Shachi means killer whale because that's what he looks like marking wise and Tetsu means steel because I found him in a pool of blood hit by a car and he miraculously survived after two weeks on nothing but intravenous-like shots. Broken jaw, bad hit to the head, no response whatsoever for a week, couldn't walk for months, obvious brain damage effects for over a year. In fact, when I found him I thought he had but minutes to live. So my wish for him was to be as strong as "steel."

01-04-2005, 10:38 PM
Ahhh, so how is Tetsu now? Poor baby. You chose a great name for him. You are an angel to all of your kitties. Rescuing them changed their lives forever. Panjka is Indian and I can not remember what it stands for. She was named after a doctor my hubby worked with and she was a stray. She is now 11. Stormy is 10 and he was named b/c of the situation we found him in. He was a kitten in a storm drain. It took almost nine hours for us to get him out. So we had to keep him. He is somewhat blind and I am not sure if it was b/c of the amount of time he spent in the dark drain. As soon as we got him out it started thundering and pouring down rain. He would have probably drowned. Cosmo was found in a litter that someone abanoned at school. He is a little over a year and loves to spend his time chasing the older ones. The two older ones are overweight. There, see it all goes back to weight loss. I had to tie it in somehow!

01-04-2005, 10:51 PM
:lol: Oh, well, if you want to tie it in, I can do that too! Because dear Tetchan (that's a nickname for Tetsu, you add -chan to the ends of names in Japanese as a form of endearment) is so big I am embarrassed to take him to the vet because I'm sure he'll scold me for letting him eat so much. He eats and eats and eats. I think it's his way of being a "good boy" for me, thinks he has to be. He is eating right now. I think there is a little brain damage still. But, I don't know how he was before the accident.

You sound like you're quite a cat guardian angel, yourself, stormy, ah, what a story there. I thought Panjka was Indian. Cosmo is great for the older ones. Nozomi was like that with Mu, who didn't want to move. She used to be fat but now, she and Shachi (they are siblings and both bobtails) both have this horrible inflamed gums/throat and it's so heartrending. They say it can't be cured and they are in such pain. I take them to the vet for steroid shots to get rid of the pain but the shots are wearing off sooner and sooner and I don't want to think of how this is going to end. Well, don't want to end on a downer note. We can only try to touch their lives in the ways we can. I think that's why they are put in our paths, so we can touch each others' lives.

little grasshopper
01-04-2005, 10:55 PM
I love your kittie names! It's great when so much thought goes into a pet's name! And I love that you guys rescued and took in needy animals. I with there were more people like that in the world. I know mine are dogs but I'll still share how I got them. I wasn't even shopping for a dog - wanted one but roomate didn't. We went to the fairgrounds and Mac was the leftover puppy from a previous litter. He's all black and was huge compared to the cute cuddly tri colored aussies. Not many people were playing with him because he looked so odd. One little girl had him. When he saw me, he wiggled out of her arms and came bouncing into my lap. He immediately went to sleep. Everytime I tried to put him down he'd scream like crazy. Well my roomate was so shocked she said I had to take the poor dog. I was in love already. He was beautiful - like a baby black bear. And that's how I got him. He's named after a girl I went to highschool with. Funny thing is that I hadn't seen her since school and about 4 months later I saw her again. Turns out she lived about 4 miles from me all that time. Never did tel her I named my male dog after her :) Maggie came to us already named. It fits her well but the names sound too much a like - she can never tell which dog we're calling. Mac has it figured out but he's a super smart guy.

Stormy - will you be able to keep in touch from school? Or is it too hectic to even try? Good thinking getting fruit and veggies...that's a few less wraps you have to eat. :) Be strong - you're in the short rows. One more year. You can make it!!

well guys I'd better get to bed - have an early morning tomorrow. Sleep tight!!

01-04-2005, 11:04 PM
Red, I am not sure if you can buy this in Japan but Purina makes a lower fat cat food. I buy the kind for weight management plus hairball control. I used to leave food out for them all day but now I feed them smaller portions, once in the AM and once at night. How did they develop the gum disease?

Gh, what a sweet story about Mac. I will keep in touch during the day at school b/c I will have my laptop and we have wireless in the classrooms. I will check in a couple of times during the day when we get a break. We are in class about twelve hours each day so I will need a break.

OK I need to go and study and then go to bed. Hope everyone has a great day and night!

01-04-2005, 11:13 PM
grasshopper -- love Mac's story. He obviously knew who he wanted to be with! Funny, isn't it how people don't like the oddball out. Those are the ones I always go for. . . reflects on the owner I suppose. ;) me, not you!

tell me, why DID you name your male dog after a female friend? Was she a jock?

stormy -- yes, I have actually bought that food. They don't seem to like it much and unfortunately, I really have to have something out for them to nibble on. I'm gone so much and also, with the cat hierarchy and all, some won't eat when the others do and I usually just have to slap something down and run. As for the gum disease, no one knows where this is coming from. Apparently it's a big problem all over the world. Some of it of course is from bad teeth but this is also in the throat. They really don't know the cause, are thinking from fleas or something but don't know.

01-05-2005, 12:19 AM
*********Hello Everyone, I am Angie, I live in the coldest province in Canada Called Manitoba. I am a sahm of two very active little girls ages soon to be 6 on the 19 and soon to be 2 on the 23 both in this month. I have been with my hubby for almost 10 years married almost 5 years. We live in a small town just out side of winnipeg. I have tried atkins last year lost 15 pounds keeped that off thank god and now i want to lose the rest which is 80 pounds. We bought a treadmill last year and i maybe have used it 5 times the rest of the time it hold my hubbies laundry because he is to lazy to put it in the laundry room, and since i'm not his maid i refuse to clean up after him. Well i got on the treadmill today for 15 min and i thought i was going to die. I did five min of a warm up then i went to buring fat the next step up and man i am sore.

My goal is to be 110 by the end of june i am 190 now. The reason for such drastic weightlose is so i can apply to our police department and you need to be in exellent shape.

I need the motivation that my hubby can not give seeing he is a rail and never weight more than 145 in his life. The man can eat and eat and eat.

He just doesn't understand what it is like to be over weight and feel so ugly inside i look at my self in the mirror and see me as when i was thin back when i was 21 i was 110 pounds and boy did i have energy. I want that person back and i need your help in getting there.

I just celebrated my 30th birthday back in sept and we went to a social to have some fun and my ex boy friend was there and the look he gave me was somthing else the look like what the f*** did you do to your self kind of look.
All i could do that night was drink and drink some more so i didn't have to feel stupid or explain why and how i gained so much weight.

I belonged to the atkins forum and had no support there and was off line for awhile and now back and i am ready to get down to buiness and shed my extra person i am carring.

I really need the support and from reading this forum i no i can get some help and motivation.

Oh by the way i am a very stubborn person and very hard to push when my mind is set but i am not perfect.

Can someone be willing to keep me in line and help me lose this weight please

Thanks Angie i can be reached on msn if anyone wants to chat one on one

01-05-2005, 12:31 AM
Hi Angie, welcome aboard! Our leader, Crime girl, will surely be whipping your hiney into shape soon. She keeps us all organized with lots of reminders about goals and everyday assignments that keep us thinking about just what it is we're all here for! There are about 8 of us I'd say, without going back for a head count.

I can't talk much now. Just wanted to say hi and expect to start thinking of daily goals and just how you're going to get in shape for June. By the way, I think an 80-lb loss in five months could be potentially unhealthy, if not very hard to meet. Do you really have to hit a certain number? I think you could be quite fit by then though, though maybe still overweight. Anyhow, just my opinion. Whatever gets you moving toward your goal is good though. I just don't want to see you setting yourself up for a fall.

You can do this though. It must be hard losing weight up in the frozen north. Do you have a lot of snow now? Can you exercise outside at all or at a gym? I suppose it's hard with the two kids too. Well, gotta run. Hope to hear lots from you! :wave:

01-05-2005, 12:32 AM
Hi Angie!

Welcome!!! :D

As you can tell if you've read a few of our posts here, we are a very supportive group! We love to hear about each other's successes, but also help get each other through the rough days as well.

Crime Girl is our moderator, and she does a fantastic job of motivating everyone. We usually have something each day that we share, whether it is a motivational tip, meal plan, exercise ideas, etc. We weigh in on Sundays, if you'd like to share that with us. And CG usually has some crazy :) question that she asks just to add some humor!

Glad to see that you've joined us, and welcome again! Please check in often and share with the group - we love new friends!

Hope everyone had a great day -- CG I made all of my goals again, that's 3 points for me. Hopefully you'll be feeling even better tomorrow and you'll be back up to speed.

Have a great night, talk to you all later...

kelly :)

01-05-2005, 12:36 AM
:bravo: KJK!! Up again tomorrow morning, right?! :yes:

01-05-2005, 12:45 AM
What a warm welcome, I no losing 80 in 5 months is alot but if i set my self to shot i want acomplish anything i have to set it big to see the full picture.

I have mini goals that i have set to lose inches and weight. at least 10 pounds a month, if i'm not at 110 by june but close to it i will feel a heck of alot better than i do right now.

We have LOTS of snow we just got hit with 45 cm last weekend Happy new year to us. We stayed home because there was to much snow and the roads were to bad. we really can't afford to put me at a gym right now and having two kids does keep me busy and they really don't give me that much time for my self, until hubby gets home.

Then i make a beeline for the bedroom and suffer while i do my walking. I no it will get easier and this was my first day and not to give up and i wont i need to focus on my long term goal and that is to be 80 pounds lighter.

i will also be doing pilates or tae-bo i have both and have done both in the past.

Well got to run and snop around take care and thanks again for responding so fast.


Crime girl
01-05-2005, 04:25 AM
Okay- so I tried to go to bed early tonight and get sleep because I still feel like a truck ran over me and I woke up and now can not get back to sleep. I thank my lucky stars that I have you guys because it helps just to have someone to talk to. :D

Welcome stuck!! :D
We are happy to have you on board and this is a great place to come for motivation. I wouldn't be able to do it without all the support from these great ladies. You picked a great place to join and like you -we are all stubborn to meet our goals and whip ourselves into shape. Jump right in- I try to remind everyone what our focus for the day is and I do try to pose a question as you have been previously told. Participate in as many things as you want but if there is a day or question you don't want to do just hop on and talk- we are good with that too. ;)

I loved all your stories about animals- I am a huge animal lover. I have 2 stories I want to share with you..

When I was in 6th grade I got a cat and named her Ginger. My dad, who claims to hate cats, called her that "da-n calico cat" so after awhile we just called her Cali. That cat had a superhuman connection with me - I swear. She met me at the bus stop and walked me home, slept with me, went everywhere with me- she was really more like a dog than a cat in that sense. Anyway- I had her until 2 years ago- I got her when I was 12 and she passed away when I was 32 so she lived for 20 years. I just thought that was amazing! She lived with my mom since I went away to college but she lived a long fullfilled life. :D

The second is the dog I currently have- his name is Charlie and he comes from an organization called "Big Dog Rescue". I had no interest in getting a dog while I am in college but I was out shopping one day and they had cages set up outside a pet store. I stopped for a sec to look and the woman there opened Charlie's cage for me to see him better. He proceeded to crawl into my lap and go to sleep. He was skinny and missing fur- skittish and had a bad habit of chewing his fur off so he was NOT a cute dog. I didn't have the heart to not rescue him because he came from an owner that tied him up outside with 3 other dogs and didn't give him any food or water. His ankles didn't form properly because he didn't get enough nutrition. It broke my heart- so I took him and after 6 horrible months of adjustment he came around and quit being so nervous- he gained weight and his coat grew back and he is a gorgeous dog now. People from the program never recognize him when I take him to the "animal fairs" that they throw. He is actually overweight now because I just can't tell him "no" and I think he should live a life of luxury after what he went through. Anyway- just wanted to share. :D

This post will probably be long and I apologize but writing to you is keeping me sane tonight.

red balloon- I am picking up that book that you told little grasshopper about because I can not get totally off caffeine.
I love your cat names and I didn't know that "san" on the end of a word means affection. I am going to use that in English now- you should have never equipped me with that one. I am going to drive people crazy!
I am in awe of you taking in cats that have so many problems- people are so quick these days to not do anything that requires work or faith. It takes a strong woman to take on the responsibility and extend care to an animal that might not make it. It was touching to read.

stormy- good luck going back to school and you sound like you have a great plan! Get that healthy food and stay focused on your goal! I know going back to school is stressful but I also know you can do it. I hope you will be able to still talk while you are there. ;) To answer you question- school starts tomorrow but I only have classes on Tuesday so I have a few days before I have to go to class. That should give me time to shake the flu and get focused and ready to go.
I am also impressed that you are a "cat guardian". I think cats are great pets but unfortunately my bf is really allergic to them! I almost didn't start dating him because of that-I was and am scared of never having a cat again. :(

little grasshopper- your dog story and mine are really similar. They can really manipulate when they want to, can't they? I think both our dogs saw a good thing and jumped for it! I know my dog gets treated better than my bf sometimes in my house. He is such a joy!
Someone asked me what kind of dog he is so: he is part Border Collie and part Cocker Spaniel. He looks like a barrel with legs, fluffy black fur, and big brown doe eyes. :D

kjk-You Go Girl!! :cb: I am so proud of you- keep up the great work!! Don't get too comfortable in the lead though I am mending fast and will be nipping at your heels.

Stuckat190- I am like you in the fact that I like to set my goals high and reach for them. If they are set too low for me there is less motivation to reach them.
Also- I think it is great you are joining the police force! I am a Criminology masters student and I am hopefully going to be working in some area of law enforcement. Unfortunately some doors are closed to me as well until I drop some weight. :?: You can do it!! Work hard and take one step at a time and before you know it you will reach your goal. (Oh Lord- I am back in camp counselor mode again! :lol: ) Seriously though- you can!
Having two children must be both a challenge and a blessing. There are some workout videos that you can do that incorporate activities for your kids if you are interested- I can ask my friend who does them with hers. Not sure how much of a workout you will get but...every little bit counts.
I am jealous of your cold weather- I am in FLorida and it stays miserably hot down here! I think I am going to have a shock when I finally move and have actual seasons again. :lol: I also miss snow! ;)

Okay I better go before this turns into a book! Wow- I guess I had a lot to say!
Good night!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

Crime girl
01-05-2005, 04:42 AM
Hi again everyone!
Just wanted to remind everyone that today (Wed) is "what in the heck have I been eating" day! Fess up! How is it going this week? Are you staying on plan? What kind of challenges have you faced and beaten?
Also- does anyone have some tips for those of us that have to eat "on the run" sometimes? Ideas for lunches I can take with me to school ?
AND if you are so inclined-give us some tips on how you choose what to buy at the grocery you make a list beforehand? go and browse? shop at health stores? etc.

The question of the day is :
What are three things that you are into?
For example-
I love Winnie the Pooh so I have all kind of figurines, snowglobes, etc.
I am also big time into books and I have 13 bookcases in my house and still have books in the floor. :lol:
I am also a "Gilmore Girls" (TV program) junkie! :lol:
What about you guys? What are your things?

Okay- need to go to try to sleep although I am not the least bit sleepy. Thanks for reading and saving me from going crazy with insominia.
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-05-2005, 07:54 AM
Good morning!

Just finished another 2 miles - and boy was it hard to get up this morning. I was really into the book I was reading last night, so I had to finish it, which meant I went to sleep well beyond when I should have....oh well, it was worth it! :D

Let's see -- what have I been eating? Well, I've been staying on plan, which is WW Flex Points. I am allowed 30 WW points per day, and have had 26 and 28 points so far this week (I began on Monday). I've been eating lots of celery and carrots and drinking tons of water. I pack my lunch at work, so I take lots of veggies, a sandwich (all low fat), and one of those 100 calorie packs (they have Chips Ahoy, Oreos, Cheese Nips, Wheat Thins) just to have that sense of normalcy. For snacks, I've been sticking with fruit, applesauce or sugar free FF pudding (gotta have my sweets). Breakfast is usually cereal with fruit. Dinner is generally a challenge, but I've made some good things this week - teriyaki chicken (not too much marinade) with a salad, etc.

As for eating on the run -- packing items like I listed above always works for me when taking a lunch somewhere. If you are stuck with fast food, try eating a side salad and something small. And FYI...Wendy's now offers options with their combos. You can still get the sandwich and drink, but you can choose from fries, baked potato, side or Caesar salad. So that's a nice option if eating out.

I have to make a list before grocery shopping. Part of that is my anal-retentiveness, and part of it is knowing that I will buy everything I shouldn't if I have no guidelines. I always have a list, and then add certain things as necessary.

As for my three things:
1. DOLPHINS! I collect dolphin things - figurines, decorative plates, jewelry, snowglobes, calendars, etc. My bedroom is out of control!!!
2. I love to read - I'm a huge fan of both James Patterson and Janet Evanovich. I've tried other murder mystery authors, but always go back to these two.
3. On TV, I love CSI! I look forward to Thursdays at 9....first of all, the men are hot! And it's just a darn good show! I also like ER and Law & Order SVU.

All right...babbled long enough. Gotta get ready for work. Have a great day everyone, and I'll be back to chat later!

kelly :)

01-05-2005, 08:02 AM
Wow, I'm just getting ready to turn in. Have been reading the Net and hoping for posts. Finally just got grasshoppers's and see there have been many others I was NOT notified of! Bummer! Something funny with the notification thing. Oh well, too tired to read now.

Just, congrats grass :cp: on yet another morning of walking. Awesome stuff, you!

I just finished a chocolate milkshake! :yes: a protein shake that is!! and now I'm having some sparkling. . .water that is! And I walked to and from the gym, jogged 3K and did some leg work. i was still in pain from the other workout! Feeling better though overall.

Meeting with a publisher I do work for tomorrow. See what they have in store for the new year. Maybe I can drum up new work. Feeling strangely resolved about things at the paper.

My brother had given me a good saying, something from Star Wars I think.
"A solution will present itself." I like that. Feels like I'm being watched out for. Like with all you guys!

Heh, see you in 8! Good night! :dz:


P.S. Crime girl, had to go back and read the posts quickly. Can't resist. They're like Christmas presents to me. Wish I'd been getting notifications. I was here the whole time. Anyhow, your animal stories were great and you are an angel for taking in that dog. What a wonderful story to go to sleep on now. It will make my dreams sweet (as will the George Clooney wallpaper I put on my computer screen about an hour ago! Ah, I want a GC in my life, real soon!) Oh, and yes, wanted to tell you, -san is the usual ending on names like Mr. or Ms or so but -chan, pronounced "chawn" as in "lawn" or "tawny" (and no New York accents!) doesn't mean affection. It is a term of endearment so if I say Susie-chan, it's like Susie honey or Susie sweetheart, pudding, muffin, honeybuns, you know, all those things I am constantly saying to animals. Well, you just go -channing people all you want. You'll be a great hit when you come to Japan. I always do it with the cute young foreign guys here and they may or may not like it but I do! Ha!

little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 08:09 AM
Morning girlies! Crime girl, I hope you got some more sleep!! Our dog stories do sound a lot a like...also in that Mac, being an aussie can look fat to people who don't realize how much hair they have and also how they are built...we always say he looked like a cartoon pig from behind when he runs. Little thin ankles on big legs and a big round body :) Maggie is long and lean. Very elegant but not graceful - she's still a pup. :)

Stuck - nice to hear men are the same in Canada as in US :rofl: :rofl: Mine can't figure out how his clothes get all over the place...I'm dead serious!! I remind myself of my mother sometimes...."go round up your clothes so i can wash them, I'm not your maid!!" I should just make him wash them too :) Anyway, welcome aboard. We're a chatty bunch but it's what keeps most of us going. I really do get a ton of support here. I tell BF that when he starts doing little dances for me, and writing cheers everytime I lose 1/2 a pound, I won't need to be on the site so much :) So I'll be here a while :) :) Men just don't get that part of weight loss, most of the time. We're glad you're here and good luck with your program. Stormy does most of her exercising from home too so she can give you lots of tips and video advice as well.

Red - I don't think your odd...does that make me odd too :) :) Is it getting any warmer there? Do you like the cold -before I go wishing warm weather on you :) We are suppose to have another week of this...It's not normal at all here to be in the 70's in January. That's Crime girl's weather!! Sounds like you are solidly in that gym. I'm glad to hear it!! Doesn't it feel great to know your body is getting stronger everday and closer to being able to do exactly what you want it to do. I miss that from my martial arts day. I have full control over ever limb on my body. I could move SO fast and stop exactly where I wanted to! I'm not even CLOSE to that now. I didn't realize what I had til I let it slip away. That's okay because I'm on the track back.

Stormy - glad you'll be able to keep in touch with us :) Man I thought 5 hours a night was bad - 12 hours a day!!!!! Holy cow!!!! That's dedication! Does it just fry your brain at first? Mine stayed in a constant state of friedness :) I had to do all kinds of mind tricks to cue my brain. Somehow I got it all in though - it helped that I loved what I was learning. Helped a lot. I have a question for you - when you started doing pilates, did you ever feel like you were poking yourself with your ribs? I have done that off and on - the poking thing - and I apparently did it a lot yesterday and I'm dieing today! My sides are so sore and it's a finger tip size soreness. I'm assuming I'm scrunching my torso down instead of staying long and lean. I have to be more careful about that in the future! Anyway, wanted your insights on it.

Kjk - sounds like Crime girl is coming after your points!! :) I bet this challenge is doing a great job at motivating you!! It's great that you're following your program so well. You make me proud :) And make me move my butt too! :)

okay, this is too long. I'm sending it now :)

little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 08:17 AM
Have to answer the questions for the day :)

I shop mostly at Whole Foods or an organic grocery store in town. We do shop for BF's food at regular stores. My diet is so limitted it's easy to figure out what to buy - he roams the isles pushing stuff into the cart. :)

I have realized that I'm kind of cat like in that if I have a bunch of something, I'll eat more of it, but if I only have a few I don't eat as if I buy the large containers I put 2/3 away in the backs of the cabinets. Believe it or not, I'm just dumb enough for that to work on me :) I eat rice cookies much slower that way :) 1-2 a week instead of 1-2 a night.

I have been eating mostly well. I realized that I wasn't getting enough calories either - thanks Crime girl and stormy for that. I wasn't really hungry but I was nibbling all day long instead of eating any meals at all. That wasn't giving me a storage of energy for working out easily. I was having some issues when working out, but since I started eating more and doing the protien shakes before the gym I'm much better now. My one real gripe this week about my food is that I bought regular cashews instead of raw ones and I'm eating too many of them. I think they're in some sort of deal with the cig companies....they're addictive!!! I swear it! Anyway, I'm almost finished with the bag so when they're gone - no more salted nutts!!! Otherwise my eating has been good. I'm drinking enough water, usually. Need to start counting glasses. I'm better on days I have clients - I LOVE the water at my office.

3 things I'm into....

1. outdoors stuff - hiking, backpacking, rock climbing, landscape photography
2. My dogs - both will start training classes soon - Maggie fearful fido to build her self esteem and Mac in Agility training. It's in his blood - he's suppose to jump throuh hoops! :)
3. My yard. We have 1 1/2 acres of land that has basically been neglected for 10 years. I love working in it to prune back the trees so they can be more healthy..lots of fruit trees, and planting grass and evergreens..not so fond of leaf blowing though. Anyway, my yard is a place of peace and comfort to me. I can't believe I love a piece of land so much but I do.

You guys have a great day today! I'm off for my fitness test and then a massage ;) See you soon!

Crime girl
01-05-2005, 12:35 PM
Hi everyone!
I made it through the night- my fever broke and I got some sleep and have called in sick to work so I can try to get this thing out of my system. :D

red balloon- I wish you were notified last night- I would have loved the company but I have been having the same problems lately. It only notifies me some of the time so I find myself hopping on to check and find a bunch of posts. Oh well!
Good luck with the publisher- it is great that you have a meeting. ;)
OK- so I need to use "chan" on the end of people's names then? Cool- I am going to incorporate that into my vocab and drive people nuts over here. :lol:
By the way- I am with you on the George Clooney thing- he is hot! :devil:

kjk- I had totally forgotten about the 100 calorie packs- a girl I use to work with use to get those. That is a great idea for when the craving hits and I have just got to have some oreos. :D
You and I read the exact same authors- I love Patterson and Evanovich! I have 3 signed Patterson books and 1 Evanovich. I just read her new book about the Nascar guy and London Bridges by Patterson. If you ever want another author between books let me know! I read a lot of others as well. ;)
Keep up the great work! You are doing so well!

little grasshopper- I know what you mean about loving a piece of land- I was raised on 30 acres in the foothills of the mountains in SC. We had fruit trees and flowers and an acre and a half garden that put out more veggies then we could eat. I miss it! :( Working outside with your hands is really rewarding- at the end of it you can see the progress and overtime you create a thing of beauty.

Okay well I should go- I just got up and I need to eat breakfast and get ready to start my day. I also have to get geared up to walk because I am not losing those points today. :D

To answer the questions for the day: I have been eating 1200 calories or under and I have to make a list before I go to the grocery store. If I don't make a list- some little voice in my head talks me into going to the bakery and buying a lot of sweets and little else. I shop at a regular grocery store but go to a health store to get a few things.
More later-
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-05-2005, 02:11 PM
well i did a post and the darn thing closed on me so i will have to re-do it later. Thanks for all the respond.

Today i will be going back on the treadmill and drinking lots more water than i did yesterday.


little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 05:17 PM
Well guys - something weird happened to me - I cam on line and it said there were no new posts and I just posted...there were a ton of new posts! Red balloon - great that you are feeing resolved about the work issues! Does that give piece of mind, or just direction? I hope the publisher meeting turns out well.

Crime girl - glad your'e feeing better today! Did you get the walk in? Don't over do it! Drink lots of water today :) You know the drill...take good care of yourself, we need you :)

kjk - I wish so much that I could do the sugar free sweets - can I enjoy them through you? I can't touch them at all...of course when I DO cheat they want me eating the real thing so I can have homemade yummy stuff. I dream of those times :) Glad you're walking is still holding strong. You're smart to just do it! I am having trouble getting to the gym today but I don't want to start a pattern of not going. It's going to be a struggle to get there Friday so I can't let myself back out now....I minght need a rest day friday after all :)

Have the fit test done today. They didn't cardio - but I know I need it. BP is good. Flexibility is good but could improve. Weight was 2 1/2 pounds lower there than my scale this morning - I'll TAKE IT! :) And they did measurements and they did body fat percentage. I'm at 28.5 Got to work on building muscle to get rid of the fat!! And of course making sure I walk, ride, hop...whatever works :)

Well better get going. Didn't like seeing the high body fat number - BF was PICKING on me telling me it would be 23..So I thought that was really high...this is even higher than that! I guess healthy range is 16-23 though. I'll get there yet!

Talk to you guys later! Meri

01-05-2005, 06:47 PM
Good morning, everyone. I am finally up, need a boost. I shouldn't watch it but my horoscope on TV said it was going to be a bad day. I hate that, stupid thing, why do I watch it, why do I care? But when you see it, it makes you think and THAT'S the bad part. I will try to zap it from my mind. Turn it around. It's just that . . . here's some moaning again. Even with George looking at me over his coffee cup. . No, I have to smile at that. Who could not smile with a handsome man like that sharing morning coffee with her, as long as he was a NICE handsome man.

Yesterday I was thinking of actually getting the athletic lean body I want and it gave me a little motivation but oh so quickly it slips away. I have never had it or never looked like I had it. It must be the diet, what I'm eating or just I don't get my body fat low enough to see the muscle and now the muscle is even further away. Hmm. What to focus on to get us past the present, while still enjoying the present? Because if you don't enjoy the present you won't feel up enough to get past it in a good way. I suppose it's just discipline and a laissez faire attitude toward the work, in other words, just do it and DON'T think about it! :spin:

Heh, guys, over to you, after my bibbly babble. Wish me luck. You all are holding me together, keeping me from the usual slide into despair, i.e. sloth and overeating. Give me your hands. Pull me from this quicksand pool of habit, disappointment and my own lack of imagination!


Crime girl -- Yes, you've got it right now with the -chan part. That can be your new trademark. Tell people you suddenly remembered it from your childhood, which you'd spent in Japan. It's all coming back!

Heh, hope you're feeling better. I really think you've got to eat more, I say, sounding, like the fat grandmother. . . No, but really, why are you getting sick all the time? Do you eat a lot of sugar?! If so, dump that in the garbage. It is the worst thing, especially when your system is already fragile. Glad you're going to read Caffeine Blues. It's very scientific but still readable. To me it was just the thing. I couldn't continue in the face of such logic. All the romance around coffee and such loses its allure. I still drink in the morning but even that I feel I can get away from more and more and will likely take it down to a single cup eventually. I made a drastic reduction in my caffeine intake which they advise against in the book but my personality is an all or nothing type and sometimes that works well for me. I used to smoke heavily and went from about three packs to zero and never went back. That was years ago and not the first time I'd tried to stop but in the end I was disgusted to be being controlled by the things and was able to just say, "Enough! Out of my life!" The moon is waning. This is the time to banish unwanted things from your life!

And thank you for your kind words about taking in animals. It made me feel like less of an idiot, which so many people say I am for helping injured animals. Of course, I don't listen to those types and certainly don't count them among my friends but still, you know, the feeling that I'm doing a ridiculous thing spending tons of money to help a little animal does someway worm its way into my psyche. To me it's never a question. I couldn't face myself if I would turn a blind eye to a creature in need, human or otherwise. But I am tempted to, even with that cat hit by the car I saw him, passed him up because I had just spent months caring for another cat I'd found with a mangled paw who was about to die. I passed him up and went back, again, saying, this is no place to die, out in the street, no doubt to be tossed in the garbage maybe still breathing. If he's going to die, he can die with me. Sorry to hear your boyfriend is allergic to cats. I don't think I would ever want to not have animals in my life. Your dog sounds so cute and happy. They aren't manipulating us. They're just totally open, total ego and that is so refreshing in its purity.

The three things I like.
Big horses
Little horses
Medium-size horses.

No, just kidding, obviously. Hmm. let's see. I guess, dressage, doing my own photo work on the computer (can't now because I don't have the equipment anymore, it all died with my old computer), playing with dogs (is that something you can call a thing you like to do?! Well, I love it.), writing up good stories, stories that people say moved them, (usually to tears they say), playing the piano, traveling to faraway places. Ok, enough!

little grasshopper -- :lol: Yes, you've got the guys down pat. They just don't seem to have learned the cheering part, do they? But then again, it's always the girls who were doing the cheering and I guess they never learned how. They sure love to hear it about themselves though. I am constantly amazed to realize how much "rah, rah, good for you!" guys actually hunger for.

grass, I love the heat of summer and Tokyo gets incredibly muggy and hot in the summer. I revel in it while others are dying. I guess it comes from being born in August. I mean, playing in the snow was great fun when I was a kid but if I can't do that then I don't need the cold. The only fun thing about the cold is not being in it and that can be nice in itself but there again, you can't say I like it.

I don't know if I'm solidly in the gym, more like, flabbily, gaspingly, moaningly. . but no, I think I am back. Something clicked. It was like, this is part of me, this is where I belong, working out, strong and capable, not playing the fat victim, which is the role I was taking on recently. I would love to be like you were back in your peak. Are you aiming for that now, or a different type of body, different skills? Yes, that's exactly it, you "don't realize what you had til you let it slip away." How true.

About feeling resolved about work issues. I don't know. I guess it's more I've just given up, accepted that no one there is looking out for me and that the place is pretty much, with those kind of people running it, hopeless. It doesn't give me direction but it closes one off and that is important because I am a "never give up" type and I hold on even if I believe there is just a shred of hope. It works for me but also against me. I have never been good about losing faith (some would call it obsessed) and sometimes you just have to let things go it seems.

Stuck -- How are you doing? Posts are always getting lost so be careful. I try to always type my posts in a separate file and then paste it in. I looked up Manitoba by the way on the Net because I wasn't sure where it was. Never been to Canada except Niagara Falls. How far north are you? As for your exercising, are you going to work with videos. Sounds like that will be best for you? How about your eating plan? What do you think is the biggest factor that got you overweight to begin with? Are you an emotional eater? I want to hear lots from you. You have to get on here and talk!! :sunny:

01-05-2005, 07:04 PM
Hi everyone!

Welcome Stuck! Glad that you are here! You can lose that weight. Eat clean and exercise and it will come off in no time. Just be careful losing it too fast. If you lose 8-10 pounds a month you should get close to your goal. Welcome!!!

The ref's latest report (not including today) CG-5 KJK-6 Now that you are feeling a little better today CG-no excuses!!! Kudos to both of you!

I love everyone's animals stories. You are all awesome. CG, you need to break up with that guy (just kidding!!!!)

Foods: Since I do home health I always eat on the run. I love the 100 cal snack packs (I usually get wheat thins and cheese nips). I usually get a Tyson roasted chicken and take a little each day with me b/c I can eat that without warming it up. Sometimes I buy Lois Rich turkey breast and cut up a palm size piece for each day of the week to take with me. I sometimes bring low fat cheese sticks with me. Baby carrots, apples, Zone bars, EAS low carb shakes are other things I bring.

Things I'm into:
scuba diving
underwater photography

Okay I'll check in a little later. Gotta pack, study, exercise and go pick up my hubby from work

little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Red - I'm sorry you're down today. Do you think it's just lack of motivation, today, or is it something different? This is a lifestyle change and sometimes you can't ignore that there will be a shock or sadness about the loss of the old lifestyle. Something beyond feeling silly because you're sad you can't have chocolate icecream...there is some realization deep down that if you really want the body you want - to get it you have to make life changes. That gets me sometimes. I love food. I really love food. Had I not been a massage therapist I wanted to be a chef. I'm a southern girl too so if it can be fried, we fried it. I loved my granny's greens, only to find out late in life that we loved them because she put a cup of sugar in them! The dessert table was the biggest table at any event. I do miss those days. They are part of some of the best memories of my life. I do mourn that loss.

Now, on the flip side. You're not as far from your goal as you feel that you are. being consistent is the key. You have a good plan, you've already mostly given up caffeine. That's more than some people can do EVER. You walk more than most americans do, just to GET to the gym to work out! You're doing such a great job!! Don't feel like every day has to be perfect. You'll have down days. The key is not letting those turn into down weeks and months. I'm a bit down today too. Can't really figure out why but I am. I didn't go to yoga tonight but I had a really intense massage today so that might be a good thing anyway. I feel like I failed at something because I didn't work out today - then I remembered, I've worked out for the last week every single day. I will go tomorrow morning and not sweat it :) right :) ???????:(

You're doing really well. If you need time, take it, otherwise quit beating yourself up and realize how great you are!

Crime girl
01-05-2005, 08:14 PM
I thought I would hop on and give you your daily dose of crime girl since I know you will miss it terribly if I don't. :lol:
I just got back from my walk and it made me feel so much better- I can breathe and I feel alive again! Thank God! I ate well today except I got 1100 calories in and I am just not hungry for more. I think being sick has something to do with it. I hope I can maintain eating well once I am all cured. ;)

red balloon- you have a unique and insightful way of looking at life sometimes- it is refreshing and inspiring. I can almost hear you talking in your posts. :D
Don't put much stock in your horoscope. If you want a daily one I can make one up for you- you will do well today and follow your dreams. There you go! Your day will be dictated by what you make of it. ;)
To answer your question- I don't eat alot of sugar- I just have a crappy immune system- partially from diabetes and partially from my weight I think. If someone gets the sniffles around me I get sick. Pair that with working in an office of people that hate to call in sick and often bring in their sick children and you have me sick all the time. Frankly I am sick of being sick. :lol:
Your practice of taking in hurt little ones is a lot like my brother's. He has a dog that has 3 legs and a deaf cat that he adopted. He has spent so much money on surgeries for the dog and treatments for the cat- my parents are all the time harrassing him. I think it is great! Defenseless animals need a defender. :D
Please realize that you are doing so well with your life changes. You are working out and eating right and like little grass said- you are not perfect so stop trying to make yourself that way. You are doing a great job and should be proud of yourself. ;)
I hope your work situation improves and you can find a place that will appreciate you. I know working somewhere that has lost heart is rough. Hang in there! Good things are coming.

little grasshopper- glad your fit test went okay today. Don't sweat the evil pinchers- progress takes times and you are working on it. At least you have a good bench line to work from. :D
I am having the same problems with the system not showing their are new posts when they are here. It also is not always emailing me and letting me know.
How did you do today? Congrats on the weight loss! :bravo:
Don't be down on yourself- you are also doing so well! You need to read your own advice to red and take it. :D
stormy- ok ref- I have 3 points for today even though my walk was not as fast as I wanted I still made the same distance so that is Ok for today. Thanks for the tips for eating on the run- you gave me some good ideas. :D
Have fun on your first day back at school! ;)

still- That happens to me too- losing a post. It is so frustrating when you type everything up and then lose it. Sorry.
Hop on though and let us know how it is going. How did you do today? Are you getting into the swing of things? You can do it!

Okay- well I think you crazy guys are posting as I am typing so I am going to go for now. I will get on at least once more before bed.
Remember that tomorrow is "What have I been doing to move my bootie day".
Let us know how exercise has been going.
How about if we talk about other ways to get some exercise rather than the traditional ways. For example- parking way back at stores and walking, taking the stairs. The little things we can do to help ourselves get moving..
Until later-
:spin: :spin: :spin:

Crime girl
01-05-2005, 08:37 PM
Hi everyone!
I was reading through some other threads and found 2 things I want to share: You may have seen them if you read other threads but here there are:

"Picture a 92-year-old woman who is petite, well-poised and proud. She is fully dressed each morning by eight o'clock, with her hair fashionably coifed and makeup perfectly applied. Even though she is legally blind and has to move into a nursing home today, she is smiling and patient as she waits. Her husband of 70 years recently passed away, making today's move necessary.

After many hours of waiting in the lobby of the nursing home, she smiles sweetly when told her room is finally ready. As she maneuveres her walker to the elevator, the attendant provides a visual description of her tiny room, including the eyelet curtains that had been hanging on her window at her home.

"I love it," she states with the enthusiasm of an eight-year-old having just been presented with a new puppy.

"But, Mrs. Jones, you haven't seen the room yet." answered the attendant.

"That doesn't have anything to do with it," she replies. "Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time. Whether I like my room or not doesn't depend on how the furniture is arranged... it's how I arrange my mind. I already decided to love it. It's a decision I make every morning when I wake up. I have a choice; I can spend the day in bed recounting the difficulty I have with the parts of my body that no longer work, or get out of bed and be thankful for the ones that do. Each day is a gift, and as long as my eyes open I'll focus on the new day and all the happy memories I've stored away just for this time in my life. Old age is like a bank account: you withdraw from what you've put in. So, my advice to you would be to deposit a lot of happiness in the bank account of memories."

"Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time. ...... it's how I arrange my mind."

and the other :

Just for today, I will live through this day only. I will not brood about yesterday or obsess about tomorrow. I will not set far-reaching goals or try to overcome all my problems at once. I know that I can do something for 24 hours that would overwhelm me if I had to keep it up for a lifetime.

Just for today, I will accept what is. I will face reality. I will correct those things I can correct and accept those I cannot.

Just for today, I will improve my mind. I will read something that requires effort, thought and concentration. I will not be a mental loafer.

Just for today, I will make a conscious effort to be agreeable. I will be kind and courteous to those who cross my path, and I'll not speak ill of others. I'll improve my appearance, speak softly, and not interrupt when someone else is talking. Just for today, I'll refrain from improving anybody but myself.

Just for today, I will do something positive to improve my health. If I'm a smoker, I'll quit. If I'm overweight, I'll eat healthily -- if only just for today. And not only that, I'll get off the couch and take a brisk walk, even if it's only around the block.

Just for today, I will gather the courage to do what is right and take responsibility for my own actions.

Hope you enjoy them as much as I did!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Hi everyone!

Well, I had a great day plan wise, but a crappy day overall. I ate right on plan, and since I have "flex" points that I haven't used at all, I'm going to eat a TINY bit of sherbet (fat free!) tonight after I'm done on the net. I want to reward myself a bit with something sweet, and use it as motivation to get through the rest of the week! So, CG and Stormy the Ref, that's 3 points for me today!

As for outside of plan, work today was rough. Not to be a whiner, but I feel the need to vent for a bit....I am the office manager at our Y, and work closely with the executive director and all of our directorial staff (6 in all). We have one lady who doesn't seem to think she actually has to work, and she constantly screws up. So my boss, whom I love dearly, asked me to take over one aspect of something that all of the directors were formerly in charge of. Believe me, I don't mind taking over, knowing that I was asked because my boss has faith in me. But I'm just irritated that people like this lady get away with not working hard enough...different standards than my boss and I, I suppose.

SORRY!!! :) One of those days, and I had to get that off my chest. Thanks! I feel better now, and I'll go to work tomorrow trying not to be irritated any more!

Ok, gonna go get comfy, grab that sherbet, and watch TV. Be back later!

Kelly :D

01-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Hi everyone,

Little GH, you were so sweet and encouraging to Red. Thanks for being you.

CG, Great job walking today. Thanks for posting those encouraging words. You are so lucky that you do not have to start until Tues. I am so jealous.

KJK, sorry you had a bad day. We all have them, so do not feel bad about letting your frustrations out, we understand!!! Atleast you made it through and met your 3 points for the day!

01-05-2005, 09:32 PM
OOPS, I forgot. Red, if you are out there ...get your butt to the gym! Don't forget about our little challenge. Love ya!!!

little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 09:58 PM
Kelly - sounds like a good day to use those points. I'm sorry you had such a stressful day. To help you feel better I'll tell you my drama from the dog, Maggie (the scared too death lab) busted the screen out of my window and jumped about 7 feet. When BF came home she was running around like crazy and my other dog was hanging his head out of our house looking all around - like he was on a car ride or something!!! Our neighbors must think we're crazy!!!!

We did check her for injuries and such - she's fine. I think she saw a squirrel and went nuts! Anyway, hope that helps ;) Enjoy your sherbet!!

Crime girl - I'm glad you're feeling better!! Hopefully you can stay well now. Eating better will help and getting more sleep will help also. You're stress level is probably maxed right now with work and school - so that will add to the decrease in your immune fuction. But if you eat well, take stress breaks and take your vitamins, it will help! Promise.

stuck - glad your program is going well!! Have you found any exercise tapes you like? I keep hearing about a Dance tape that plays in the xbox. Have you guys heard about it? Doesn't really matter since we don't have one...but still - great use of an x-box :) Anyway, so glad you're here!!! Post any time and all the time :) We like to read too :) :)

Stormy - enjoy your flight tomorrow. We'll be thinking about you... one weekend closer to graduation! I can't wait until we're congratulating you on THAT goal! :) Be good on your trip - Red's coming after you :) :)

Well guys - I made salmon, oven fried zucchini and spinach salad with avocado for dinner. YU - UM!! I feel so satisfied right now :) See you soon..

Crime girl
01-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Grasshopper- are you sure your pup is OK? That would scare the crap out of me. I guess he really wanted to go out, huh? Poor thing- your dogs sound like a riot! :rofl:

stormy- don't be too jealous- my first class is Tuesday of next week and the last day to drop a class if you don't want it is Monday of next week SO- if I get my syllabus and it is a really hard class I am stuck. I don't who came up with that brain storm but there it is. :dizzy: Good luck at school!

kjk- sorry you had such a rotten day but Kudos to you for meeting all your goals today. :D I hate when one person thinks they are exempt from the rules of work. Well- you should be proud your boss can count on you- you are a better person for having such a great work ethic. It still doesn't keep me from fantasizing about a similar woman I work with suddenly falling off the end of the earth but what are you gonna do? :lol:

What ever happened to our other members?? orkai, donna,cinisha, phoenix??
and suanne and michimesh- you guys out there?? We miss you! :cry:

Well I am going to bed- have to be up at 6 am to go to work tomorrow and I need all the sleep I can get. Cross your fingers I can sleep all night without waking up. :crossed:
I will post the question of the day tomorrow- I am drawing a blank right now. Good night everyone and I will try to hop on at work tomorrow. If I can't I will be on after 6. Have a great night !
:spin: :spin: :spin:

little grasshopper
01-05-2005, 10:35 PM
CG - pooch seems fine. She's happy as ever. It did scare me too death and I checked her all over and checked her muscles too..she seems good. Scared of her own shadow but will jump 7-8 feet out a window!! :) go figure.

Sleep well ! - everyone -except Red - you should probably stay awake for a bit :)

I'm getting up early tomorrow so I can hit hte gym before I have to be at the office for a LONG day of massage. I want to have that work out done with ! Then Pilates again tomorrow night :) maybe I won't poke myself so much this time :)

01-05-2005, 10:37 PM
Hi everyone. I'm taking a breather here in between the publishing meeting and trying to get in a ride, making the trip to the stables. The meeting was over very quickly because the boss couldn't show up but she called and had someone else speak to me which was basically a job offer or them asking me if I was interested in doing some in-house part-time work. The conditions were very up in the air still and didn't sound good but I said I was interested anyhow because I think this place is an up and coming place, it's actually an English division of a huge Japanese publisher and, so far, from what I've seen, they seem to be professional and/or appreciate professional work, and I don't mean "appreciate" in the way the paper does, "We appreciate you" my big A! Anyhow, got some more take-home work and was able to come home instead of going straight to the stable.

You're all so sweet! I'm feeling just as lousy. Think I'm tired. Think I'm just a little frazzled from all the up, up stuff I've been doing lately. But, I've learned over the years to try to just walk hand in hand with those down times and not try to push them away, just sit quietly with them nodding my head and allowing them their say. There's nothing wrong with feeling blue . . . it makes for wonderful music. . . it's just what you do in those blue times that is important.


grasshopper -- yes, you are the sweetest. I was reading your reply on my cell phone and would have gotten teary eyed had I not just gotten out of the subway station and was walking past one of the palaces where police with walkie-talkies are stationed all around, I suppose because kooks try to lob bombs into the bushes or penetrate the premises for an attack. So, I couldn't start crying in front of those handsome young guys!

glad to hear your dog is OK. What a silly-nilly! But a squirrel is irresistible!

You said some interesting things in your message. Hmm. Changes getting one down. That could be. It is the kind of feeling perhaps. I was thinking it was more the feeling of not seeing any results despite the efforts, knowing they will be there if I continue but they are not there yet. Not an impatient feeling but one more of having already made the changes inside and outside enough to have gotten to the gym, worked out, felt athletic, eaten well and then to have to look around, at my lifestyle, myself and not SEE any of those changes yet. No one knows I'm changing yet and the change is yet so fragile, so vulnerable. I think that's what the blueness comes from. . .but then your suggestion could also be part of it. Saying goodbye to old ways, to ways we've been, for years even. Very possible. I suppose the way to get over that is to realize that we are shedding old ways like a snake its skin, sloughing off that which would keep us from new growth. The old ways are not what they once were. They have outlived their freshness, their use and now only serve to hold us captive, weights on our smiles.

It's a necessary goodbye and I'll just do it. There is SO much more waiting for me. THAT'S what I have to focus on! Eyes front, heart front, always forward. Don't look back till there's no where else to go.

I hope you're feeling better too now grass, or will be tomorrow. In any case, just keep going and don't beat yourself up either. You didn't fail today. You took a breather. I titled my post "breather in the backstretch." That comes from racing. In a lot of races, the horses will go all out from the gate to get position but there is usually a point in the backstretch, usually before going into the final turn, where they will relax and slow their pace in order to save something for the all-important final stretch. Think of your downtimes like that. This is not a sprint. It's a marathon and you have to alter your pace many times during it to come out ahead, which to us are those points of evaluation such as weigh-in, lovely Sundays!


OK, sorry people. I have to go now but I will get back to you all when I get back, I mean get back home that is. Wish me luck riding. This will be my first ride of the new year! :wave:

01-05-2005, 10:58 PM
Little GH, I have not felt poking before. Is it your obliques that are sore? You know it should be your powerhouse :p I am glad your baby is okay.

Red, you are so eloquent in your writing. I enjoy reading it. Have a great day today.

CG, sleep well tonight!

I'll check in before my flight.

01-05-2005, 11:20 PM
Thanks for letting me vent, and "listening"! I really appreciate it!

GH - thanks for sharing your story, however terrifying I'm sure it was for you at the time!! Yikes! Glad to hear the pup is ok!

CG - thanks to you as well for sharing your experience and opinions on the work matter. Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks that way! Good job on the walking today!! ;)

Stormy - thanks to you also for the encouragement and kind words.

And by the way, I enjoyed my 1/2 cup of sherbet! Who knew that 1/2 cup would satisfy the urge? Not the past I would have scarfed down an entire bowl full!

I just want to say again how thrilled I am to have all of you to count on - you are making this week so much easier for me! Knowing I have people checking up on me and supporting me no matter what has gotten me this far. Now if I can just stick on plan tomorrow and Friday, and work out tomorrow, Friday and Saturday, I'll be satisfied. I'm going to a party on Sat, so I'm sure I'll go over points, but I'm going to try to drink lots of water and stick as close to plan as possible.

All right - off to read and bed (CG - just finished Evanovich's #5, going to Patterson's Big Bad Wolf right now :) ). Have a wonderful night, love to you all!!

Kelly :D

01-06-2005, 07:43 AM
Good morning!

Everyone must have turned in early last night - I was surprised to see that no one posted after I did last night! Oh well....

As you can see, I am up early and just finished my fourth consecutive day of 2 mile walking. I must tell you that I have never before been able to make my lazy butt get up early when the alarm went off. I've always just said "I'll do it tomorrow" and then never done it. I will say that this group has helped with the motivation factor, so thanks! :D

Ok, gonna go get ready for work. I'll check back later. Keep it up,'re all doing great! ;)

Kelly :)

little grasshopper
01-06-2005, 08:39 AM
Hi gusy - KJK, you're incredible! While you were up moving your butt and walking, I was in bed hitting snooze. I need a loud alarm telling me when someone is up and exercising :) I have to squeek mine in before the day starts....but listen to me, that's what you do every day.

this is hard for me - exercising before work. I had 4 years of saying, "I think I'll get up and run tomorrow." I think I ran maybe 10 times total. I have to work on it more now. There will be plenty of times when early morning is all I've got.

Red, Sounds like you have a handle on things. And you're right - you are completely entitled to be's what you do while there that matters. I remember I use to tell my friend that was going through a divorce that she could cry 10 times a day. She thought I was silly but I hope it helped her realize that you are SUPPOSE to be down sometimes - that's life and it's part of what makes us appreciate the good times. Helps us learn to understand each other and makes us a balanced person. But you're right, when we become self destructive, in an effort to feel better, that's no good. I do that. Eat a food that I'm SOOO allergic to, just because I think it will make me feel better now....I doesn't anymore though -makes me feel worse. I need to take up exercising with that mentality :) I'd be CUT in no time :)

To answer your question - I'd love to have the type of strength and control that I had in my martial arts day but I don't want to go back into physical contact martial arts. I had a lot of injuries then! A LOT! Something was always mending. broken bones, tears, bruises. I took a lot of "just in case" trips to the ER. I have a hard time doing something that is competetive at a healthy level. I go all out. I did that with martial arts and it made me really good at it and I love that part of it but I can't live my life with that kind of imbalance in an art that is suppose to be about balance. I am leaning more towards strength and control in yoga and the rib poking art of pilates :) :rofl:

I'd love to be in that kind of shape though :) :) And even THEN I had no butt. Really got to work on it :)

okay guys, I know I haven't said hi to several of you - I have GOT to get to the gym or I'll be late for work and I won't go to the gym...then I'll have gotten up early for nothing. Can't let that happen. Talk to you soon!!

01-06-2005, 09:29 AM
Hi everyone. I need to go and see a couple of patients and then catch my flight out. I plan on exercising tonight at the hotel b/c I do not have time this morning. I had another night of not sleeping well. I guess I am just anxious about school.

I hope that everyone has a wonderful day.

KJK, wow you are doing so great. What an accomplishment!

GH, hope you don't poke too much today. My hubby keeps going around the house saying squeeze your tooshie. He is driving almost as crazy as she does! Anyway, hopefully that poking will go away soon. Maybe you are just waking up your powerhouse. You probably are just learning to breathe better and your intercostals are getting a workout.

Red, where are you? Are you okay?

Okay, I doubt I'll be able to check in again until Friday afternoon. So everyone hang in there. KJK/CG keep the competition going!

little grasshopper
01-06-2005, 10:17 AM
Have a great flight!! Enjoy the trip as much as you can! After all, you are learning something you love :)

I think you're right about the intercostals - I had a massage yesterday and had her work them a lot and the pain is much less today. It has to be muscle related. I'm practicing keeping my shoulders down, out of my ears, and not using my traps if I don't need them, and keep my torso long and lean. I feel taller and thinner already :) Have a good trip - learn lots to bring back to us :)

Crime girl
01-06-2005, 04:57 PM
Hey everyone-
This is going to be short- I am still sick and I feel like crap!
I also had the day from hades and it is taking all my effort not to pig out on something really bad for me.
Anyway- wanted to sat hi and let you know I am alive
I will try to get on later-

01-06-2005, 05:34 PM
Good morning, people. I'm here, very bummed out. Really don't even want to talk about it. I'm just so pissed off at the way things are going this year and now I have to go in to the office and I'm afraid my attitude is going to result in another blowup. I just can't take any more cra@p and the place to get it is work! I'm so sick of "controlling" myself, looking on the bright side and all that. Jeez, I still haven't been able to get a ride this year. Yesterday I go out to the stable and partway there I get a message on my cell saying the ground is frozen and I still can't ride. Went out anyway and gave the horse a brushing. It sucks. That after that boss not showing up at the meeting in the morning. So, the day was more or less wasted. Didn't get any exercise in except walking. Oh well, rant, rant. Even George on my computer screen is not helping this morning. Horoscope on TV is worse than yesterday! Crime girl, turn my horoscope around!

But heh, why are the "bad" things the ones I choose to get all riled about? And why NOT look for the "good" things if they are to be had? I guess it's because the "bad" things are the things that prevented me from having the things I really wanted. This reminds of Jagger's "You don't always get what you want . . . but you . . . get what you need" I always hated that song because I have always wanted what I wanted so badly that I get into a black cloud when I don't get it, a 2-year-old tantrum that can be downright embarrassing. But heh, I want to ride a horse that I'm paying tons of money to keep, that is the reason my life is so hard and on and on and on. It's like why should the things I want be so hard to get? It's not like I'm asking for the moon!

Just grow up and get on with it. Well, I was going to delete all this but then I thought, heck, maybe someone will benefit from it. You all sound so happy and all all the time but maybe you can understand my feelings. I mean, this is really the main reason behind my inability to get the body I want. I hit obstacles and I lump it all, all my efforts. I get so angry at my "fate" why these blocks are being put in my way when I AM making the effort that I just give up in tears of frustration.

Sure, outside I'll be OK, saying "it's OK, it's OK" but it's not OK. It really really is a pain! Alright ENOUGH!


Crime girl -- I'm sorry you're feeling sick Please get well soon and try not to pig out. We miss you terribly when you're not here.

stormy -- Have a good flight. Be safe and don't let the airplane food (if they have any these days) or the airport fast-food garbage shake you from your resolve. You are doing great. Hurry back. I miss you too.

little grasshopper -- Thanks for your vote of confidence. My childish rant above helps me act like an adult though I don't sound like one. I will continue to look at the good things that happen and allow myself my anger and feelings of frustration at the same time. They are both there, both real.

I'd have a hard time I think just doing yoga and pilates after having been so good at martial arts as you but maybe your having done that already is what allows you to now say, "let's do something different." You are doing great as well, getting to the gym and all. I am jealous!

kjk -- You are amazing and I can't say I'm jealous because I don't think I could get up and do what you're doing. I have not yet managed to get my bike usable. Sorry no one was there for you on the board but I DID try last night. I really wanted to touch base with you all but I couldn't get the forum to come on. It wouldn't load though I tried over and over. It was only 3fc too because other sites came up no problem. Must have been a problem or a traffic jam. I was glad I was able to get on this morning. You mentioned "venting" but I didn't read any. I'm glad we're helping you. I can't believe how in control you are, doing your morning exercise and stopping at 1/2 cup of sherbet! Last night I had a minor eating spree but it could have been a lot worse. I was pissed and was going to get a big ice cream cone as I came through the station. But I thought of you all and how I would sound saying I had done that and I thought, "NO, I just can't!" Good luck over the weekend and have fun at your party. I hope we hear from you before then though!

little grasshopper
01-06-2005, 06:52 PM
Hi guys - well add me to the list of people that had a shitty day! The boy wonder doctor is finally talking to me again..found out today why...he's hurt and the head doc told him he would heal until he got a massage. Great, so he's using me. But that's the FUNNY part....He actually jumped me in an office meeting today to the boss (30 minutes before he was to get on my table for body work) he told the boss he was ticked because he sends all these people to me and he doesn't have a clue how any of them are doing. okay 1. I TELL HIM regularly. He ignores me or walks away from me. 2. it's IN THE FILE! He said he never sees me read or use the files. He didn't know I kept notes in them....and that it's not his mind set to look in the file. So I said, well if you're going to walk away from me when I try to tell you, and you don't want to look in the files, perhaps you could call each patient and ask them how they're doing...He said he doesn't get paid to do that! UUUUGGGG!!! Luckily it was pretty obvious that he was making a fool of himself. It got so bad the head doc actually sent him home and called me into his office to pray for me. I cancelled the appointment with boy wonder. Ethically I couldn't put him on my table when I was that mad at him....believe me, I wanted to!! OH and he told a PATIENT that he wants her to see me but that "these are muscles i want her to work...she's to work what I tell her and not what she finds..." tells the patient this!! THEN tells our office manager that I am to see this patient 2 times and if I try to book more apointments with her, he trusts that OM will tell him about it. Never tells me any of this though...does all of it in front of my new patient.

I'm much better now but had to tell you guys. okay, I feel better. Really needed to get that out. I was so mad I DIDN'T eat lunch. I was too busy being pissed off. It was all I could do to stay calm and professional. Two things he didn't do. What a twerp! okay enough about that.

I did go to the gym today and did about 1 hour of working out. I'm trying to decide if I'm going back tonight to do more. I had to leave early because I was late for work. Tomorrow am I have be like Kjk and get up really early - may your spirit be with me, cause it's going to take a miracle. :)

Crime girl - sick again!!!! You POOR thing!!!!!! Get better sicko - KJK is going to kick your butt if you don't. You can make it. I hope your'e feeling better soon.

Red - I'm too pissy today to be insprirational...all I can tell you is doctors don't intimidate me a bit anymore!! They're little pieces of crap just like the rest of us sometimes....although having one pray for you right there in his office is kind of grounding. I'm so sorry you can't ride. I know that has to be killing you!! When does spring come in? Do you have a rainy season? Keep that chin up. You're doing well. Even small changes for the better are you don't do it all - every little bit counts! I'm still proud of're dealing with a lot of crap right now and it's not easy. You're staying strong and that's impressive...set mini goals with small rewards you wouldn't normally give yourself maybe.....if I'm good all day I get a small cookie - by it at a store and then throw the leftovers away in a public trash can! No way you can get that back :)

Well I'd better finish dinner - slow cooked chicken and salad. again. still good though.

01-06-2005, 07:01 PM
Wow, grasshopper, what a lot of crap got dumped on you today! There must have definitely been some bad vibes going around. My day was shite, Crime girl's sick again, and then this for you. I would have up and quit. :mad: Who are these people! and they're called doctors! They sound like they need major therapy themselves. And what is this, someone praying?!?! for you. Give me a break. If I were you I don't think I could have hidden the absolute disgust I would have felt for these people. How do you do it?

This guy talking to you in front of your patient????????? Was this the boy wonder or the head guy? And either way, your place makes my newspaper sound like. . . well, first grade instead of nursery school. Boy, can't say I don't feel a teeny bit better knowing you are having to deal with this kind of lunacy. Yeah, well, you were magnificent in the face of this. OK, not eating lunch I could understand. I would have had my fist through something or somebody.

But your having made it to the gym in the morning means the day was not a loss and YOU got something out of it, because you did it! Good for you. And here you are making a good meal. I don't know, grass. You put wimps like me to shame.

little grasshopper
01-06-2005, 07:11 PM
Red - thanks. It was a wierd, childish day for sure, but just to be clear, the head doc stood up for me completely and put the guy in his place. He is the one that prayed for me and it was very well meaning - he called me into his office and said that he wanted to make sure I understood that he did support me and that he wanted to take the time to pray for me to make sure I was okay with everything that happened and ready to move on a treat clients without all the anger. Oddly enough, just knowing he made the effort after something like that DID make me feel better. I know it's odd to have anyone praying for you at work but it was gesture meant to be kind and I was very glad he offered it. I might have killed his little doctor if he hadn't......and the deal with the patient. I wasn't there.....he had this conversation with the patient and the office manager and then told me none of it. After the office manager lit into him at the meeting today, she told me about the patient thing. I couldn't believe he was stupid enough to rattle off a bunch of muscle names and expect a patient who also has a severe HEAD INJURY to remember them to tell me!! Idiot!!!!! He's the most childish md I've ever met in my entire life...I'm a massage therapist and he's threatened by me. I won't even begin to figure him out. Whatever - he's his own pile of ****. He can either chose to change, or die with it! I don't care.

I'm much better now though - nice, how venting it all out here makes it so much better. well I'd better get some stuff done here so I can finish my workout at the gym. BF is going to ride with a tape and a trainer at home - it's raining here today, no mountain biking. Might as well go work out myself...his bike set up will take up the living room and the TV, and it'll be LOUD. :) time to ride ;)

01-06-2005, 07:23 PM
grass -- glad you feel better. I had to chuckle at your anger. sorry, but in my sick way it made me feel better to know other people have to put up with the same kind of like "hello?!?!?" idiocy at their workplaces that I do. This doctor doesn't sound at all capable. I pity his patients. And, I am so sick of people saying people "feel threatened" by me and here you are getting the same kind of behavior. It's like, threatened??!?! When you see me walk in with a machine gun you can feel threatened! I am so so utterly sick of the "you're so strong, so scary, so . . blah blah blah." I guess anything looks scary to a spineless slug! Well, you're right grasshopper, let this "doctor" work himself out and hope he stays out of your life. Maybe he'll quit. We can always hope. As for someone praying for me, I don't know. I would take it like, look, I don't need your prayers, I've got my own connection to the powers that be. I don't mean, people saying sweet things like "I'm praying for you" or "you're in my prayers," but someone actually making a thing of it like they're an ordained priest. Well, guess it's my Catholic childhood, or bad memories of it! I'm glad you saw it for what it probably was, just one well-meaning person's way of showing support for you. You're cool, grass. Enjoy your exercising!

Crime girl
01-06-2005, 08:24 PM
Okay- one reason I was staying off the board was my day from ..well I think you know. :devil: Since I dont think I will ruin anyone's mood or mojo let me put in my two cents.
I woke up this morning- still sick- never really mended completely and had to go to work. My bf, who can be a world class moron sometimes, was a butt to me this morning which of course made me feel great. I got to work and an idiot I work with that I have been trying to track down for 2 weeks to discuss a project I worked on for him corners me today and asks me why I didn't do the project a totally different way and why didn't I come talk to him after I finished. Geez- If he wasn't perpetually out to lunch or on freaking vacation MAYBE I could have touched base with him. He didn't even understand what I did and I did EXACTLY what he told me too. The guy is a complete airhead sometimes and I just get steamed trying to explain his job to him.
I left work to take my bf to his work (his truck is broken) and when I got in my car that he had been borrowing all day it reeked of smoke. The idioit SMOKED IN MY CAR!!! EGADS! I could have run him over with it I was so peeved. On the way to take his sorry butt to work we got into one of those gigantic fights and he left in a huff. I got him to a message from a friend who I always have to call- she NEVER calls me- telling me she is upset I haven't called. Are her fingers broken???
Okay, I feel a little better- I didn't pig out-I had a Lean Cuisine and brussel sprouts.
Red- I am sorry you didn't get to ride and that you are down. Of course you have the right to feel that way. I just hope things turn around for you and I predict, as your horoscope, that good things are coming. Hang in there!

Little- I am also sorry you had to deal with morons today. That guy has some jewels to be treating you like that. I use to work with doctors so believe me I know what you mean. Some of them get the "big man" complex and think their crap doesn't stink. Hang in there! At least the head doc is an ally and he sounds like he is looking out for you.

Okay I better go before I let the bitter side of me out again.
Thanks for listening.

Crime girl
01-06-2005, 10:49 PM
Where is everyone tonight??
I wish there was someone to talk to- I am getting more and more stressed as the night goes on and I swear the day from **** just won't end.
I think I am about ready to say forget it and order a pizza..
I know I am whiny- sorry-
just how i feel..

01-06-2005, 11:35 PM
Crime Girl.. I must admit I am a lurker on your thread from time to time.. but seeing as there is no "real" person here I thought I'd step in for you:
DON"T GET THE PIZZA... you are such a strong and amazing person. The way you organise and help to motivate all the other battlers here is incredible. You have a lot of love to give and are very talented to manage all the things you do. You are very self aware and have a great out look on life and it's challenges. Be happy. You are an inspiration to people you don't even know.
I hope you get some sleep
Good luck

Crime girl
01-07-2005, 12:06 AM
Thanks NBK!
I appreciate the support and kind words. I managed to make it through the night without totally pigging out. I did exceed my calories by about 150 so I finished the day at 1350 rather than 1200 so I guess that is better than the large pizza I was headed for.
You should chime in more often- would love to get to know you and after tonight I think I owe you. ;)
I am feeling a little better- after a crappy day and not feeling well I think I hit a wall.
Okay- I will quit whining-

Tomorrow is Friday so it is reflection day and support day as usual.
Can't think of a question and just not that inspired tonight so forgive me.
Have a great night everyone! Good to bed!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-07-2005, 12:36 AM
ok, so i just typed a whole post and it got erased...argh!

just add me to the list of those who had a shitty day (pardon the language)....i won't go into details, but i'm just annoyed with my job right now and the immense amount of responsibilities that keep being put on my plate.

CG - didn't hit my food plan today, went 5 WW pts over. not a huge deal overall, because WW allows for that by giving you a 35 point additional allowance, but i'm slightly disappointed in myself because i was doing so well....oh well, tomorrow's a new day. ;)

tomorrow's friday, ladies. let's strive to finish this work week strong, and head into the weekend in good moods!!! :D

off to to you all later!

kelly :)

little grasshopper
01-07-2005, 06:52 AM
Hi guys! Went to be early last nigt. CG - sorry I wasn't here. I'm glad NBK was though.

NBK - that was so kind and inspiring! And you were right on the mark too :) Glad you were there!!!

KJK - notice, it's 5:30 am and I AWAKE!! I did it!!!!! I'm headed to the gym at 6:00 to get in my morning workout before the day starts. Very proud of myself too. :) (I know, you've already walked two miles......I'm working on it :) ) I'm sorry you had a bad day too. There must have been something in the air yesterday that brought the mean out in mean people! We didn't hear from Stormy on the topic but we pretty much all had crappy days, didn't we! Hope we're not THAT linked :) Here's to a new day today, and if not, to the weekend that follows today!!

We've all had good weeks program wise. This might be one of the strongest weeks yet. If we can just get Crime girl well! I hope you're all feeling stronger and sexier as I type!!!! We'll get there week by week and step by step!!

Have a great day. I will check in tonight.

01-07-2005, 06:55 AM
:bravo: Little Grasshopper!! Good for you!! :spin: :cp: :sunny: :spin: :cp: :sunny:

01-07-2005, 08:15 AM
Hi there, just a quick post as I've got work to do still here at home.
Didn't do any exercise today other than walking and a few arm and shoulder pumps with a dumbbell. But I didn't pig out and I didn't have sugar and I actually turned down! another night out with the guys, which would have meant massive beer calories. So that was a save. Would have enjoyed the socializing but it is inextricably linked to alcohol consumption and I am an all-too-willing participant. Well, I wasn't great with the food, but certainly not bad. Brought my own vegetable curry with me to work and had that over brown rice with cheese on top and plain yogurt on the side Gotta cut down on the cheese I suppose because you can only get full-fat stuff over here.

Okay, over to you all. Not a very busy day on the site, was it?


Crime girl -- I'm sorry I wasn't there for you. If you had just been a little bit earlier I would have been able to get back to you before I left for work. As it was I saw your message from my cell phone and planned to say hi when I got to work but was too busy and never came up for air all day really. And then it was probably too late anyhow. Well, it's good NBK showed up. Very nice of you NBK! You see, at least someone from my area of the world timezone-wise came through!

So glad you didn't get the pizza Crime girl. That would have wrecked utter havoc with you with all that salt. You might still have been showing water retention from the salt on Sunday and that would be a bummer. As it is, you'll probably have a loss, right?

You certainly were having a bad day. So you got airheads in your place too, huh? Welcome to the crowd! And smoking in your car. Gross. You should make your boyfriend walk! and that after he gave you a hard time in the morning! Heh, you don't deserve this, kid, not from what we all see at least! :) And your "friend?" Sounds like you need some new ones!

Thanks for the good horoscope. I think it was working. I got some more work lined up and some other prospects for continuing or doing more for a racing-related place I did work for last year. With the economy bad over here, the racing still has tons of money. Gambling is always a good place to hang out and in Japan racing is huge. Has the biggest purses in the world. And it's full of filthy rich people and I just KNOW they're all waiting to cut me in on some of that (for tax purposes and such) to be sure!! :rofl:

Well, it's good I'm getting some prospects because my mouth at the newspaper just keeps getting bigger and bigger. But you see, anymore I just don't care what they do. I have lost all respect for the "management" and it's only my coworkers I enjoy.

Anyhow, Crime girl, if you ever need to talk send me an email to my cell phone. If you want to know my email address pm me and I'll tell you! It's cool sending email halfway round the world and having someone answer back! Oh, and yeah, will you stop apologizing for being "whiny" and such. You can be just any old way you please. That's why we're here. What good is support and venting if you have to walk on eggshells to get it.

kjk -- sorry to hear you're having a lousy time at work too. . . .but really, again it makes me feel less out on my own with my stuff.

Oh, don't worry about being 5 lil ole points over. That's nothing at all. You're STILL doing well. No past tense appropriate here! :nono: Well, I'm heading into Saturday but it's a workday. There was a package delivered to me today while I was gone so they took it back but I called and they're going to redeliver it, so I'm waiting on that now. It's from my sister. Christmas in January! Hurrah!

grass -- yeah, that was great, you getting up early to get to the gym. You did go, right?! Hope to hear from you when I get up tomorrow!

Ok, good night, everyone. . oh, and right, crime girl, since you didn't have a question, may I ask one! It's from my little book of questions.


If you could experience one whole year of pure happiness but wouldn't remember anything of it afterward, would you still want to do it? Why or why not?


little grasshopper
01-07-2005, 08:58 AM
HI - just popping in on my way out the door. YES, I made it to the gym! :) feels good to have it out of the way.

I don't know that I'd want 1 year of happiness if I couldn't remember it. I'm not sure. The memories are the best part. That's all you take with you to old age (for a while at least :) )

01-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Heh, where is everyone! :?: I sound like Crime girl now, but really, this is strange?!!? :cry:

01-07-2005, 06:56 PM
Hi everyone. Just a quick hello. I have not had a chance to read through everyone's posts b/c I am at school. However, I want to say I did well today. Workout for 45 mins. Ate subway-wrap, and a Healthy Choice dinner so far. I hope everyone is doing good. I'll try to check in Sat.

little grasshopper
01-07-2005, 07:13 PM
Hi there - Redballoon sorry I was MIA. I had to work all day at the admin part of the office so I didn't get to check in. How was your day? Things went pretty well for me - just have to be strong as we go out to eat. I think I want to get a good steak and veggies - side salad...a steak though :)

Hello -stormy!! I am glad school is going well and congratulations to you for working out 45 minutes today! Good eating too!!! Way to go!!!

See everyone later tonight.

01-07-2005, 07:14 PM
stormy, good to hear from you. I'm really lonely here wondering why no one is posting. I, unfortunately, got on the scale and I absolutely can't believe it. I did well this week and from the looks I've it I've gone up nearly 4 lbs?!! :fr: That's just not possible. :?: I even changed the batteries in the scale thinking they must be screwing up. Ok, I worked out but the soreness is gone and there's no way I gained muscle that quickly. Shouldn't be retaining water now either. Could it be from salt I ate, didn't have that much though. They say before the body loses fat it retains a lot of water but I don't know. :shrug: It just doesn't make sense. All I can think is that my starting weight represented a "low" day and I was actually hovering around a much higher number. "Hover" doesn't seem like the appropriate word here actually as I feel much too heavy to be anything but grounded, like a slug! :cry:

01-07-2005, 07:15 PM
grass -- you were posting when i was posting my slug report. Can't believe it. What do you think is going on (I ask bewildered that my previous three months of gluttony and sloth have resulted in, gasp! a weight gain). well, my day is just starting out here and it's not looking up just yet. Glad you're doing better! :wave:

Crime girl
01-07-2005, 08:45 PM
Hi everyone!!
big surprise but I fell off the wagon- I had wings and fries then a burger and onion rings for lunch and I feel absloutely miserable! I got depressed, was still sick, huge fight with bf, and this morning I just didn't give a fig. I am so disappointed in myself! Great example I am. I have worked so hard this week and in one day I blew it so I am now even more down.
I have gone from camp counselor to downer..
maybe I should get off the board a few days so I don't mess everyone else up..
Oh yeah- had a donut today too..
when I screw up I like to be an overachiever..

01-07-2005, 09:01 PM
Oh, come on, Crime girl, you can't be up, up, up!! all the time. We do want to think of you as human, our leader or not! ;) Just get back on the horse before it gallops away without you and you have to walk all the way home, moping and eating donuts along the way. It's no big deal. One fall does not a screwup make. I, at least, hope you, in some way, enjoyed your indulgences, despite them having been triggered by unpleasant things like scrapping boyfriends, depression, illness and the likes. Just look in the mirror, say, "Mommy's going to kiss the boo-boo and make the pain go away!" (that's me!) and then smile and do a little jig to shake off some calories and kick on, my friend! :)

Crime girl
01-07-2005, 09:06 PM
Red balloon- I just read your post and that is the first time I have laughed in over 24 hours (which is NOT like me). :lol: I will get back on that horse- I am even more determined now to get this weight off and on the bright side- I won't do this again for awhile. I am as sick as a dog with all this horrible food in my system. It was SO not worth it! ;)

Okay so no more doom and gloom for me! I WILL NOT sit around and feel sorry for myself and stuff my body full of food. I am going to go for a walk, get up tomorrow and it will business as usual. My bf can go ..... himself if he doesn't like it. I am not going out like this- it is just freakin embarrassing!

01-07-2005, 09:10 PM
That's my girl!!! :lol:

While you're ready for a laugh, check out this abbott and costello classic. who's on first, I was just downloading it for my cell phone ringtone!

Crime girl
01-07-2005, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the support everyone (especially red and NBK). I am feeling better and the crisis I think is over.

Let's get back to it! Tomorrow is Sat and is recap day. I want to try to talk about ways to handle stress other than eating. We have all had a rough week and I think we should talk about ways to cope that don't involve throwing in the towel. I especially need some ideas because I can't go through life eating every time I get stressed out or depressed. Help me out everyone! :D

Red- don't sweat the 4 pounds- you know how scales are- you can flucuate from time to time. Give it a day and go back and look at it again. Look at your salt intake and remember if you weigh right after eating that the food you just ate will weigh some until digested. Don't worry! Keep up the great work and hang in there!
I am so happy to hear that work is getting better. That is really good news! ;)
To answer your question- I would not want to have a year of great times and no memory afterwards. What is the point? I treasure my memories and they are priceless.

little grasshopper- steak and veggies aren't bad- you have been doing so good! :D
How did work go for you today??

kjk- I get 2 points today- eating was horrible but I walked and drank tons of water. Haven't heard from you today- how are you doing? Was your day any better? What happened anyway? Anyway we can help?
WOW- I am full of questions..hope you are having a great Friday! :)

stormy- glad you got to jump on for a sec!
how is school? sounds like you are doing great! :D

NBK- if you are lurking- hop on and chat..tell us about yourself. We would love to get to know you.

Michimesh- Hope all is well with you- your mother is still in my prayers- hop on and let us know you are OK sometime. ;)

Jazzmine, Oraki, Phoenix walker, Donna, susanne, cinisha- we miss you! Come back and join us! :D

Okay- need to go to bed! Thank you all for the support!
Tomorrow is a new day and it will be a great one!
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-07-2005, 11:27 PM
Crime girl,
I'm at work. Having a rare peek at the site. Looks like we're only ones around. I wonder what's up? people with more of a life on the weekend? Nah!! Couldn't be.

Hey, did you check out that comedy link? That was fun. I've always heard the 'who's on first' joke but never heard the original. It's a great laugh over frustration, which I thought we all here would know a lot about.

As to your thoughts of what to do instead of eating when bummed out I think listening to comedy or reading comedy might be one good way.

As for the happiness question I would say, **** yes! I want a year of pure happiness. Something good would have to come of it. I mean, that happiness would be linked to certain things, no? So, even if I couldn't remember being happy, I would still maybe have those things. Or not? Maybe it wouldn't work that way. Well, in that case, then I would still say yes, because in a year we would have come in touch with a lot of people and such and would no doubt have spread so much happiness that even though we wouldn't remember it we would have made the world a better place, or encouraged so many people. Seen the movie, 'Pay it Forward?' Kind of like that.

Ok, gotta run before my coworkers get angry that I'm playing on the laptop while they're doing the work.

Ciao bella! :wave:

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 12:25 AM
Hey guys! I'm sorry I've been out - we went to dinner and then BF took over the computer for hours.

Crime girl - I agree with Red. One fallen day doesn't a screw up make!! You always have tomorrow. You didn't undo all the good in one day, I promise.

Red - The only thing I can say about what is going on is that you are under great amounts of stress and your body is detoxing from your old eating habits and you're working out harder suddenly. Maybe your body is doing the same thing mine was. You need a mild exercise that is stress relieving.. I know riding your horse would help, but in the mean time is there anything mildly cardio that you can do - walking, riding the bike.....that you can do gently to relax? If this is what's going on and you over work yourself your adrenal glands can't keep up producing the DHEA and you will gain weight instead of losing it. Since the doctor told me what was happening I have lost all the weight i gained in that week period - almost 7 pounds. It's been 1 1/2 weeks since he told me. I have been walking or riding 30 minutes a day no faster than a 15 minute walked mile. I did do some weight training but kept everything mild and if the day was really stressful I made it even more mild. He says two weeks of this and my body will be ready to push harder.

I know it's abstract but it worked for me. If you have any kind of sugar issues, low or high, or ADD, or seasonal depression, or low thyroid...any of those are endocrine issues. If one endocrine organ is struggling, they all are a bit and having a hormone imbalance can slow your weight loss. Just something to think about. Also, if you have just had a really cold snap, and you have any thyroid issues at all, it will slow your thyroid down making it harder to lose weight and easier to gain. Nice set up, huh :) (keeps you warmer in the winter...thanks to our cave man relatives :)

I have a poem for you ...i'll post it next. Crime girl - I hope you enjoy it too.

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 12:27 AM
This poem use to be posted in my office. I read it every day. My favorite part is "my head is bloody but unbowed." CG - you're down but you will live to fight another day :) See you tomorrow!! Red, I hope this inspires you as much as it did me! I'm sure you've both seen it a million times - but worth seeing again, I think.

by William Ernest Henley; 1849-1903

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.

01-08-2005, 12:49 AM
Thank you, grass. Yes, I know that poem but it's been years since I've read it and, now, after, all those years indeed of, well, life, it takes on new significance. Very strong stuff. Thanks again.

01-08-2005, 01:01 AM
Hi all...

Sorry, was really busy today and went out a bit tonight.

GH - hope you're sitting....I didn't get my morning walk in today. I was absolutely exhausted and needed that extra hour of sleep. I really don't think I would have made it through the walk successfully again anyway....but the way I'm looking at it is that my starting commitment was only 30 min/5 days a week. So if I walk tomorrow, I will have accomplished that, and that's a huge goal for me! :D And awesome for you....5:30 is amazing! Welcome to the early risers!!!

CG - don't sweat today. It happens! I didn't do great today either, so don't feel bad. I hit my range (just barely), but know I could have done better. I went to Applebee's for lunch and tried the WW Onion Soup and Chicken Salad, and they weren't too bad. Only 8 points for that, so I was happy!

Red - sorry no one was here when you needed us! :( I hope that you are going to enjoy your weekend and that next week is an improvement over this week....I mean, really, could it be worse? ;)

Stormy - way to go at school! You are a rock star! I am so proud of you. Keep it up, hope you have a great weekend of classes, check in when you can!

Ok, going to read for a bit and head to bed....have a great Saturday everyone. Talk to you tomorrow!

kelly :)

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 08:08 AM
OH THE SNORING! I can't sleep. I EARNED this day to sleep in!!!! I'm going to crash on the couch for a bit.

Red, how did your day go? I hope it was better!

Crime girl - feeling any better? Physically and emotionally. Being sick constantly will bring your down! Did you ever get to pick up the vitamins stormy recommended? I hope you can start getting those in your system to help build up your immune system.

KJK - don't sweat the no walking....just because that's what pulled me through at the gym.....:) just kidding!! I only have to get up that early 1 day a week - you have to do it every day!! You're still the champ. And way to go exercising 5 days a week!!

Well yesterday I found out that my md appointment might be moved to monday! This is when I'm going to have him food test me again to see if I'm strong enough to get any forbidden foods back :) Cross your fingers for me! I did find out from him yesterday that in the past 20 years the "healthy" weight for women has been steadily climbing as our average weights have been steadily climbing...we're being told that the old charts were unrealistic - this also happened at the same time the heart attack rate in women started steadily climbing. It's interesting - I want to look into it myself. At any rate, the md wants my fat % between 15-22 where the charts at the gym say between 16-26 labels me FIT. I'd like to know if there is a magic way to know how much weight that means I need to lose. When you consider that I have to build muscle and lose fat, I dont' know if there is a magic number. All I know is my thinking that I'm carrying more fat that I realized on my body is probably accurate. We'll see. I'm not stressing about it. Not like I'd change my plan because I've got an extra 5-10 pounds to lose....I'll just keep pluggin and keep boring you guys and one day I'll get there :)

Well I'm going to crash on the sofa now. Good night!

01-08-2005, 10:35 AM
hello everyone...I'm still here just have been busy..Good news I went to my WW meeting and lost another 2 pounds..woo hoo..

But i'm just checking to u guys lates

01-08-2005, 11:37 AM
Hi guys! Quick check in:

Michi, congrats on the weight loss

Red, the 4 pounds is nothing to worry about. Stay off the scale. Remember, b/c of hormones your weight can fluctuate up to five pounds!

CG- do not get down on yourself, pick up and start again. That is exactly why I like having a cheat day once a week. If I know I have one day a week where I can eat whatever I want

LG-good luck at your appt. I hope that you will hear good news.

KJK- 5 days is great. You are doing so good!

OK, back to class. I'll check in Sunday afternoon when I am back home.

Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.

Crime girl
01-08-2005, 12:55 PM
Good morning everyone!!
I just got on my scale this morning (wanted to see how bad the damage was) and that crazy thing says I weigh 281. That can't be right. I ate 4225 calories yesterday (I made myself look up the calories as punishment) so it should say I gained weight. I am not complaining but I hope it doesn't shoot up 10 pounds tomorrow at weigh in.

little grasshopper- That stinks that you can't sleep! I hate that! I am glad you have somewhere to crash to get a few more minutes because you deserve them! :D
I will keep my fingers crossed for you on getting to add new foods. :crossed: You are my hero staying away from so many foods!
To answer your question I do feel better both emotionally and physically. This board has been a saving grace for me. It is good to know there is always someone here when I need them. :D
I am sure there probably isn't some magic number but you are going to be able to tell how you are doing by how you feel. You are not boring us at all! :nono:
I love the poem!
michiemesh- WOO HOO!!! Good for you!!
:cp: :cb: :dancer: :flow2: Great job!!! Glad you checked in and keep on truckin- you are doing so well!

stormy- Glad you popped on too! Knock em dead at school!!!

red balloon- Thanks for the comedy link- I have never heard the original either! Also- thanks for all the support and effort to make me smile- it made a huge difference to me! ;)

kjk- You have been doing such a great job this week and I agree with everyone else- 5 days a week of exercise is outstanding! :bravo:
I am walking today- I need to try to catch up with you before you leave me in the dust! :lol:

I hope I have at least spoken to everyone! Hope you all have a great weekend and don't forget tomorrow is weigh in day. I am also going to try to do a weekly recap as well. :dizzy:
Question of the day:a variation of red's:
If you could go back and relive your life starting at age 5 but would not remember this life at all- would you?
Have fun!
I will be on later so be warned! :lol:

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 01:10 PM
Oh no! She's coming back!!! :yikes: Girl, stay off the scales. You were getting on them for punishment anyway! Do you LIKE that kind of stress???? It's not motivating (except in this case, but you've convinced yourself that it will show up later..and maybe it will, but who's about the journey - not TODAY'S number!)....please remember this and give it back to me the next time I'm doing the same thing :) Glad you're feeling better. Get that butt a walking :) If you haven't already, get the to the store and get some nutrition! :)

Michie - you just keep melting and melting! Good for you!!! :cb: :cb: :bravo: :cp: :cp:

Stormy - hope school is going well!!! Do you use one of your school days as a cheat day? Just wondering..that would make travel musc easier but not give you cheat days with hubbie either. Well, you're in this weeks home stretch! I hope you're enjoying it and will be home soon!

Okay, I need to get a walkman (no, I desperately want an Ipod but can't get one) I need a regular am/fm and possibly cassette walkman (I could finally play the "learn spanish in your car" tape mom gave me). Any advice on ones you have and like. I've read reviews and they all have mixed reviews. You input would be greatly appreciated :)

01-08-2005, 02:57 PM
Hi everyone!

Hope you're all enjoying the start to the weekend!

CG - don't punish yourself like that! One day does not a disaster make. Don't worry - I didn't have a good day foodwise either, but let's just move on and start fresh today. None of that "punishment" stuff.....just keep on going! ;)

GH - hope you got some sleep....I have a CD walkman, so that I can play my favorite CDs when I actually get a chance to walk outside (which probably won't be for months now).

Michie - congrats! You are doing wonderfully! Keep it up and check in with us when you can.

Stormy - hope you're having a good weekend at school. We will look forward to hearing from you when you get a chance!

Red - have a great weekend, try to forget the troubles of the week and enjoy yourself for a bit! We are here for you!!!

All right - I've got to do some cleaning and shopping. I'll try to check back in later, if not I'll talk to everyone tomorrow!

kelly :D

Crime girl
01-08-2005, 04:42 PM
How is everyone this bright and too warm day!It is 71 degrees here and I feel like summer never ended. It sucks! :D

little grasshopper- I think my feelings are hurt! :( Just kidding! I am not REALLY punishing myself. I just want to learn from my mistakes and adding up all the calories from my day of indulgence makes me realize that it is not a good idea. When I log them into my food journal they are a reminder that eating like that has consequences. As for the scale- it was mainly sick curiousity and I will stay off now until tomorrow. :lol:
Did you get some extra sleep? As for a radio to use- I have a plain ole Sony Walkman for walking and it works just fine. I have had more expensive models but they are basically all the same really. As long as it automatically flips itself over it is a good one I think. :D

kjk- I am picking myself up and moving on I promise. Slipping up only makes me more determined. ;)
You are doing great so keep it up and keep me motivated! :D

Well- just checking back on to see what is happening. I don't want to miss it if anything exciting happens. :lol: I am trying to lay low again today and get rid of my cough and when it starts getting dark I am going to walk.
I made contact today with a girl I refer to as the "exercise ****". She is this girl that use to live near me that would come by and get me to go for walks everyday. No matter what -she made sure I went. If I was sick- too bad - go for a walk. If I was tired- too get the picture. I am going to start walking with her and she is going to go with me to my school's gym on Monday morning and I am going to check it out. It is a state of the art gym with all kind of bells and whistles but I haven't gone because I don't want to be stared at. She told me to get over it and we are going early so not many people will be there. Wish me luck!

I will hop on later and check in-
Have a great day everyone!!!! ;)
:spin: :spin: :spin:

01-08-2005, 04:48 PM
Morning people. Not a good day yesterday or last night. Did manage to drag myself to the gym but only went through a sorry-a'd arm and shoulder routine, no jogging, took the bus home. My sister sent me an entire huge box of licorice, all types and I pigged on that. It is my favorite flavor and it was a Christmas present but took six week to get here. Somehow I just didn't care anymore. I should never have gotten on the scale but I wanted to follow the weigh-in for this thread. Then again, the weight has been creeping up obviously and maybe it's the shock I needed to do something about things. But, if it knocks all the enthusiasm out of me to see the numbers, what good is it?

Unfortunately, I have no weekend because of my work and lifestyle (largely freelance). But then, I have other days off and if this friggin' cold weather would let up a bit I could do something. The air is so dry I can't even brush my hair. It just sticks to everything. Hasn't been this bad in a long time.

Have translation to do today, worked at the office Saturday. The translation I hate doing, especially this stuff, because it's for the Website of some real ritzy club.

The work situation I try to sound optimistic about but I can't tell you how awful the thought of leaving the newspaper makes me feel. And the talk at the publishing house was not really much good. Very low money. I've done the publishing house thing before. Hated it so much I left to go back to the newspaper. Much as I hate the situation there the paper has been all I've known and there is nothing like newspaper work. I like it so much. I can't believe how this boss, for whom I did so much, has just turned an icy shoulder on me. I tell you, it really knocks any esteem out of me. Woke from a dream about it, being ignored, having been knocked out of the loop, the boss smiled and put his arm around me. Big deal, he ruined things for me, what do I need him putting his arm around me in feigned consolation. Lousy dream. I have to think of it as, it wasn't because I was vocal (in trying to get some decent work done around there) and that being vocal is bad, it's that this place just does not want good people. It's awful not to feel wanted, even if you're good, and they seem to have won, but what have they won? Not much, I think, I hope. I hope the entire company rots and its name is never heard from again. Unfortunately, the people who ruined the company will go away with their wallets stuffed, pension plans intact. How do they look at themselves in the mirror? They don't listen to the foreigners at all unless you are super complacent and do want they want. None of our complaints are heard, none of our suggestions, warnings, nothing is heeded. And it's not just me. The people who seem to get anywhere have just totally compromised or are absolute yes-men. That's not what I want. I have to try to remain firm about that though it means I am hurting myself in the short-run and the long-run is a huge question mark with no promises, less encouragement.

I just don't know why things are so hard for me and, especially this year, with riding nonexistent, my weight loss efforts totally backfired on me and everything. I really just want to cry.

OK, enough of this. It's awful when the last dream before you wake up is a downer.


kjk -- Thanks for saying you're there for me. I hope you can be. I really need people to talk to who care.

grass -- sorry I can't help you on the walkman question as I don't know what's available over there. I hope your food tests show you can eat more. If you figure out your present bodyfat, then just figure what that number represents in pounds and subtract it from the corresponding number at the lower bodyfat level you'll find the exact number of pounds you need to lose. The problem is determining bodyfat is really hard, and no better than an educated guess unless you have yourself weighed underwater. I wouldn't rely on numbers too much. You can see if the muscle is showing through or not and gauge it thus. And you don't bore me!

crime girl -- I think you easily could be 281. I'm too depressed about the scale to even say much, especially when it's people losing, sorry, but you didn't eat much all week so the one day isn't going to do anything and you've been exercising, haven't you? So you could have well lost weight. I mean, which is the true weight anyhow, if you can't believe you've lost 7 lbs, why would you believe you've gained 10? I think we just have to look at our entire caloric consumption and expenditure and then decide what our "progress" is, not wait for the scale to tell us. It lies until it can't lie anymore, when the gain or loss is so great it shows up consistently over the long-run.

I'm glad you liked the comedy link. It sure is frustrating, isn't it? As for your question, I try my hardest not to remember my life as it is, so sure, why not? No, really, I wouldn't want to relive my life at all, unless I had the power to change things and I mean including things that I had no control over or was unable to change physically. So, do you mean, like if we would go back and relive it in order to alter our current present?

stormy -- good to hear from you. Hope your classes are interesting. How is your eating? Are you able to exercise at all while you're there and when are you coming back? I'm afraid I don't really understand your situation. Can you explain again. As for the 4 lbs., I'm afraid I am, if not worried, just disgusted. It doesn't seem possible, at all plausible. There is no way I should have gained 4 lbs, no way, and now I have eaten out of despair, disbelief, feeling like there's something out there that just has it in for me no matter what I do. :cry:

michi -- congrats on your weight loss and good for you for getting to your WW meeting. Wish we'd hear more from you! Keep up the good work. ;)

01-08-2005, 05:04 PM
Crime girl -- We were posting at the same time. I just want to add that it's very admirable that you're back up and trying again. I should take my cue from you, you will be like my exercise ****. I think that's great that you are planning to get to the gym. Yes, don't give a care about people looking at you. You're like my sister who says she doesn't want to go to the gym because she's too fat. I mean, do you think people have never seen a heavy person before? Do you think they really care. I mean people just stare because they have nothing better to do and if they're anything like me a lot of them are probably pretty impressed that you're out there moving and a groovin. People who look are usually not looking because they think little of you. It's usually the opposite. People who WOULD think less of a person because of their looks usually are too caught up with their sorry selves to even give others a look, unless it's accompanied by a snide, pathetic remark. Many people who look, even though they may be thin, have their own problems. Maybe they have to drag themselves to work out and hate every bit but have managed to do it and they see you and you give them inspiration. They may think, "heh, look at her. Good for her. If she can do it, then I can too." Don't think the worst thing if you don't know. Think the best. When I lived out in the boondocks in India, people stared and stared and stared and I was heavy and many had never seen a white woman. It bothered me only because I was shy but they were just curious. Women in the village who would talk to me would gaze at my fat admiringly and say, "you must be so wealthy." And here in Tokyo, though people don't stare at foreigners like they used to 20 years ago, they still look, for whatever reasons. I've had foreigners tell me it bothers them and they want to hide or they get angry. People look, you see them looking, I just look away. I don't know what's going through their heads but I picture nice things. I remind them of a movie star, I make them think of their dreams to learn English and travel abroad, I am their ideal woman, they think I look intelligent, exotic, tired, weird, ready to lose it, WHATEVER, it doesn't matter. . . and if I really want to know, I should just smile and ask them gently. . .

Smile Crime girl. You are not your fat. You are that strong and gentle spirit inside whatever your present outer wrappings may be.

Crime girl
01-08-2005, 05:22 PM
I wasn't going to post again and in fact I was getting ready to log off when I got an email letting me know someone has posted! Curious I came back and read and I am glad I did.
I am so sorry that work is giving you fits! I know how it feels to know you are good at your job and not feel that people appreciate it or acknowledge it is true. You deserve better than that. I think you should try to focus on your future. Let's talk about your alternatives. Are there other papers in Japan that interest you? What about magazines? What is it about newspapers that you like? Talk to me- let's talk this out and try to look at it from different angles. Maybe we can shake an alternative loose that you haven't thought of. Let me try to help.
The other things I am curious about is: are you stuck in Japan? Can you move again? Do you even want to? You seem to like a change in scenery and maybe it is time to seek out a new locale and a new job? You tell me.
Your dreams, as I am sure you know, are your attempts to work out stress through your subconscience. The numbers on the scale can be a result of stress- it effects your weight. Stress sounds like the culprit so what can you do to eliminate some stress? Exercise is good and I am glad you are going to the gym. Don't be down on yourself that you didn't do everything you felt you should have- you went- that is half the battle itself.
I am not 100% clear what is going on at your it being taken over? Why the sudden turmoil? Could it be temporary and it will pass?
I feel for you and hope I can help in some way. I know the paper is a big part of your life.
As for my question: I meant that you could pretty much do over from age 5 to present any way you wanted. The kicker is that you wouldn't remember what you did in this life. It is a second chance.

01-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Thanks Crime girl, for your concern and support.

To try to explain the newspaper. It seems, that for a couple years now, the paper has been in dire financial straits. Last year (or maybe it was the year before) they asked for people to volunteer to quit. (People are still rarely fired here, though it is happening more and more. The Japanese tended to try to hire for life, at least, in the bigger companies.) So, a lot of people took them up on the offer (which was only extended to Japanese) and left because they got severance pay. Us foreigners always had a high turnover rate because that's just the way it is being in a foreign country. So, people left and there was no people being hired. But this seemed to vary depending on the desk and I've been on a desk that seems to be getting the very short end of the stick due to an asinine "boss." This is not the bigger boss I speak of but another little pencil pusher who we think has severe mental problems! Anyhow, our workload has increased unbelievably. The paper has made ridiculous cutback everywhere. We get no extra pay for working holidays, no overtime, no taxis home for the night shift, have to get the last trains. We have no paper towels in the restrooms! The office is not cleaned. We have to try to find pencils and erasers even. The computers are breaking down all the time. But worst of all, we don't have time, or rested eyes to do the work well and this pains the professionals among us. On top of that, we are kept in the dark as to the situation of the paper and though we are told there is no money we see other people being hired on other desks, we know the management is not hurting at all. The paper is now owned by another company that has money but doesn't want to invest it in the paper and doesn't have any knowledge about what makes a good newspaper. Really, none of the Japanese papers do and especially the English-language ones. They are mere puppets of, either their Japanese parent company, or, as in our case, (we have no Japanese paper but the mentality is the same) we are more or less puppets of the government and powers that be. The papers, as they are in Singapore and Korea, are mere voices for the government. The media is quite controlled here. Anyhow, I'm getting carried away here.

The bottom line is that I like the connection that working for a paper has given me to the world and to the things that are going on. The press gets an in to everything. You can go to any press conference, meet celebrities, call up someone and say you are interested in them and want an interview and usually get it. You have a reason for connecting with people. Newspaper work opens doors. On top of that, it allows you to touch people through your stories, information you provide in your articles. So, sure, newspaper work is great. However, there is lots of work that is done behind the scenes. Editing, page layout, headline writing, choosing the stories that come in from the wire services. Very little of it involves actual writing, which I like very much because that is the most direct connection and allows you access to all sorts of types of people with all sorts of lives. Now, at one point, when I was doing mostly writing, I got tired of living vicariously through other people's lives. I wanted my own interesting things, not to just write about other people's interesting things. And, I've always tried to maintain that, which is my dressage, my working out (bodybuilding), whatever.

Let's see. Yeah, I'm stuck here in a way, but no more I think than anyone anywhere. If you've been doing something for years and years you don't know what else to do and, no, I don't really want to lose the aspects I've mentioned that I like. I can't see myself making a move anywhere if it just means pulling up roots (my cats and horse) and heading off with the no money I have and starting anew like I did when I was 20. I want to use the years I've put in here and make something for myself using my abilities and the experience and skills I've acquire along the way.

The paper doesn't look like it's going to change and I think the present people in charge are not interested in my interests at all. This is the thing I don't know how to deal with. My dilemma is that I am not getting the opportunities I want yet know of no other place that can give me the work I want to do. I think I'm going to have to create my own work, not just find it somewhere waiting for me in a job description.

Yes, stress is huge in my life and I'm sure the weight loss is being affected by that. Also, I did hit the gym and change my diet quite drastically again recently. So I should just plug on, right?

I suppose I should try to keep the aspect of my work that I enjoy and just focus on that and try to find ways of maintaining that in my life, which means also saying no to work situations that I know will, though they give me money, will cut me off from the things I enjoy. I am afraid the publishing house work is such unless I do it for just a day or two a week instead of three and negotiate a better hourly wage from them.

The racing-related work is my big hope. That is for me and I think that field still would allow me the most creativity. I had tried for a long time to get a radio show going (the paper also has a radio station) but failed due to lack of a sponsor and I tried to get a column going in the paper but failed due to I don't want, it seems the sports department head just wants to keep me out and he's an American, but one of the yes-men.

Ok, sorry all you out there you read this. What a lot of words! Thanks Crime girl for listening.

01-08-2005, 06:29 PM
Well, here's my official weigh-in weight for Sunday, as that's what it is here. As you can see, I gained 3 lbs. The weight tracker doesn't measure it from the starting weight but it does say it underneath. Happy tidings.

I'm just going to have to try to shake it off. I do feel very puffy, like I'm retaining a lot of fluid for some reason. My sugar binge surely had something to do with it, although I think that binge was triggered by getting on the scale (and the arrival of the licorice package). As grasshopper explained, I guess there are all sorts of reasons for the body to be holding on to water, endocrine system under attack and such. Oh well, I am determined this week to write down everything I eat and to actually add up the calories, noting how much salt I'm putting on my food and to also steer clear of the sugar again. Despite the weather I will try to take some loooong walks at a pace less than my usual frenzied racewalk!! I need gentle encouragement.

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 07:08 PM
Hi guys, Crime girl - you are very kind to help Redballon the way you are. I'm sure you are still having a rough time too - being sick and all. Did you get your walk in? Great news about your **** friend :) I use to have a karate ****. He could get anyone to do anything and you hated him until you looked down and realized your legs were cut from top to bottom....then he was your best **** friend. (no offence to anyone who might be offended!)

Red - I will send all the good energy I can your way! Watch out, I'm not very accurate at this stuff....if it hits your cat, sorry :) just kidding! You really are going through some crap!! I'm so sorry!! Hold your head high and try to remember to breath. Don't beat yourself up over the candy. It WAS christmas present after all. You are doing a great job by acknowledging the things you need to address to change your life. Some people would just sit back and say, I tried but it was too hard, so I'm giving up. You haven't done that and we're not going to let you....what's a one day slip....there are 365 days in a year!! You slipped one maybe two days. You're FINE :)

okay, I think I figured out what I'm getting - musicwise. BF saw me searching reviews and was disgusted at what I was shopping for (not nice enough I guess) because he offered to split the cost with me and we can share it when we work out. I am looking at a sonic impact from Target. It's a 149 package with speakers and all but the mp3 player is the size of a lighter. It holds 6 hours of music and has memory cards too. I comes with carrying case, small speaker for outloud play and the headphones that wrap around your ears for exercise. We're going to check it out tonight becasue it's on sale for $99. and goes off sale tonight.

I am dreading the weight in tomorrow. I was down 2 pounds today but I ate a lot of carbie stuff. Not low carb eating but those still like to hold water :) Oh well, it's just a scale. How bad can it be?? (just so you know, it can be EEEEEEVIL!!!!!)

Talk to you guys soon. Oh, I got a journal last night and am going to start journaling about my weight loss journey. Hoping I can make life long changes instead of short term diets. here's to a weekend of self therapy....

01-08-2005, 07:22 PM
grasshopper -- I'm still here, sitting around not doing my translation work. MUST get on to that. I'm also drinking parsley tea! Well, actually, it's just dried parsley in hot water. It tastes good! I read that cranberry and parsley are natural diuretics so I'm trying that to get rid of this water weight, if that's what it is. And I'm staying off sugar, licorice or not, today. Thanks so much for your encouragement and the good energy. If it hits my cats, fine, they need it too. I am very bad under stress, gain weight, suffer from anxiety. But yeah, I haven't given up. Maybe that's why I feel bad, because I know I'm not going to give up. Maybe I should, in a way, just relax. I'm around a lot of super-obsessive type (the bodybuilder friends at the gym and the dressage people) and then the opposite, the mega-drinking pissed-off foreigners and the doesn't-give-a-damn management at the office and both types are extremes, which isn't good I suppose.

You guys are my balancers. I can't express well enough how you help me to stop getting pulled from one extreme to the other and how much that means to me. I do feel pulled all the time because I am an extreme empathizer type, take on the feelings and ills and whatever of those around me and of my environment, so normally I just try to stuff my emotions (or whoever's they may be) down deep so I can function. It's a double-edge sword because this empathizing allows me to gain insight into people and helps in my writing but also causes me to feel battered a lot of the time.

Glad you sound set to get a Walkman. They make all the difference. When I'm at the gym and a good rock beat comes on I suddenly can access my own power and work out hard. But, if it's some depressing, whiny, moany pop thing I just want to leave the place (sorry pop lovers!)

I hope your weigh-in goes well for you tomorrow, but, heh, if it doesn't, think of me. If I can get past this and come out a winner (and a loser at the same time!) then you can too. :sunny:

Crime girl
01-08-2005, 09:12 PM
I am only on for a sec because my bf is waiting on me to watch a movie and considering we have been fighting- I need to go spend time with him.

Red- I read your explanation of your workplace and it makes more sense to me now why you are down. I am going to think about options for you and post a response as soon as I clarify my thoughts. For now- hang in there! Do thr translation even though it is not what you would like to be doing. Keep in mind it keeps you in Horse and Kitty pellets. :lol: I have some ideas for you but let me hash them out in my head first.
Don't let the scale get you down- it is proven that you will hold onto weight when you are stressed so I think the scale will go back down once things settle down. Don't beat yourself up! You are doing great and should be proud, like grass said, that you are fighting the good fight. :D

little- your find for music sounds great! I might look into something like that too- let me know how it works out! Even better you are getting it for a great price. Music makes such a difference to me when I am working out. I can put the Rocky theme song on or "I will survive" and it inspires me to keep truckin. (I know I am corny).
Don't dread the scale tomorrow- you need to take your own advice and cut yourself some slack. It will be OK. Scales can be evil but I am betting you did better this week than you think you did. :D

Okay he is calling for me- I will pop on after the movie and share my ideas with you red.
Have a fab night! :D

01-08-2005, 09:29 PM
Thanks Crime girl, I can't believe how sweet you are! I'll have to be leaving soon. I am hoping to get in my first ride of the year. Will try to do some of this translation work before I leave, but plan on doing it tonight and early tomorrow morning before the other work. I need pressure a lot of times to get moving.

I looked it over, like I said it's the Website for this fancy club and it's stuff about personal trainers and facials and massages and oh, such daddlings for the ultra rich. But, then again, I am thinking of getting something like this too, massages, manicures, I've never had them. I could use them as rewards for the eventual weight loss. yes, yes, I WILL end up a winner! All the talk of massage on this thread has be wanting some, though I am so extremely ticklish I usually can't get one unless I think they are very good and know how to work in gently. I don't know, my neck, shoulders and back are so ticklish. They always do your head and neck when they give you a shampoo at the hairdressers but I have to tell them to please not go past my head because it is so uncomfortable!

Crime girl, I will be waiting for your message! I'm glad you made some sense out of that ramble I wrote. Can you actually see why I'm feeling so bummed? Wow, you're something else! Well, enjoy your movie. Hope you and the boyfriend can spend some nice time together instead of it developing into a fight.

little grasshopper
01-08-2005, 09:37 PM
HI guys - well between the first store, to show BF the mp3 and the second store to look at other options, just to make sure we were getting the right one, he had a money panic. Didn't want to spend anything right now. So I'm back at home. I wanted to just buy the thing anyway...but we were sharing it and I think that would have insulted him. So I am still singing to myself...researching am/fm walkmen again. :)

Crime girl - yes, spend time with your man! They need attention too. Thanks for the encouragment - I've been downin water all night because I'm craving bad foods....I mean REALLY craving bad foods. I will be better tomorrow I'm sure. I HAVE to be good for the next two days, otherwise he'll be clearing out allergy patterns in my nervous system the whole time I'm there :( Yep, have to be good.

Red - Get to work! :) did that help? I need to work on my company brochures tomorrow. Boy wonder is insisting that i have a brochure he can give patients...even though they all know me and I have signs and flyers everywhere...he says he won't refer to me until I have brochures. I want to tell him to kiss my a!! but I won't. I'm working on not allowing other people's attitudes effect me so much (by the way, I'm sucking at it!) Oh and your advice to Crime girl...I just used it on a friend. She is going out tonight, is at her highest weight ever - and feeling like she's a fat cow. First, she isn't...second, you're right - they already know her, so this isn't the first time they've seen her. And even if it was, it's not the first time they've seen a person with weight to lose! She didn't buy it. She does't listen to me most of the time anyway...she's kind of male that way. I have to tell her things - important things about 10 times before she gets them! Anyway, It was brilliant advice - I'll keep it in mind. Why can't we all just love our bodies while working to improve them...why does it have to be so hard emotionally too ?????? Working on that as well. When I figure it out you'll be the first ones to know....just in case...don't hold your breath! :) As for the job - it sucks. I'm so sorry for you. That's a real pickle. do as much nice stuff for yourself outside of the office as you can and also, check out your self talk...the things you are saying yourself.

I read somewhere that we need to hear 5 positive things for every negative thing...the good news is that we can say them to ourselves and they often do we say wonderful things to ourselves! check your self talk and see if there are some great things you can say to yourself that will help you with the stress. Might not be much but it's worth trying. I'm going to come up with a list for me...(yes, I'll be one of those "and gosh, darnit, people like me...." People) :rofl:

okay, have to go find a walkman. Tired of working out while reading sub text!

01-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Wow, grass, bummer with the Walkman. Too bad you can't just buy it. Maybe you should get the cheap one after all. I mean, if the boyfriend didn't want you to buy a cheap one but is now scared of buying a better one, what's the point? Can't let the guys' egos get in our way too much, can we?

Glad to hear you tried advice from moi on your friend. Too bad it didn't work. But it may sink in eventually. Sometimes, though, you may have to try the tough approach, tell her if she's going to mope and moan about her weight then she'll just have to buckle down and get the fat off! Or if she doesn't want people to see her, she could get one of those burkas that the Afghani women have to wear. Now, that might draw some stares! I don't know if she's trying or not to lose weight but some people seem to just be fishing for pacifiers. It's one reason I like the bodybuilders, they look at you and and your fat and say it very clinically like, because that's all it is to them, pure and simple fat, not an indication of your worth, your wealth, your upbringing, your potential or your ability to take a mean tumble in the . . . well. . . the barn loft, for example. ;) It's a matter of, there's a contest, you got to be ready for it, no question about it. And, the nice thing is I can talk to them the same way. Now, last night, when I saw their faces I knew they were thinking, "jeez she's put on fat" but they didn't say anything more than "let's get cracking." I mean, not that I'm a bodybuilder, but I was sure training like one, and they all bulk up off season, well most. Problem is, I never take the fat off, just go from less to more and back again. Anyhow, maybe your friend just needs to learn to take a less emotion-laden look at reality and lose weight if she wants to and/or stop reading into other people's suspected opinions and thinking up all sorts of horror stories and how they must consider her the lowest of low-lifes.

Yes, yes, I know people judge you on looks. I was the one saying, I wanted them to so when I have a great body I can give the shallow types the cold shoulder. But those aren't the people who count, not as friends. Sure, I'd like a boyfriend to appreciate it if I worked out and had a great body but I'd also want him to not turn up his nose in disgust if I got superfat or became disfigured due to illness or something. I mean, what would he do with someone like that when she (meaning me) is an old shriveled up prune at 90! I want my guy (the one I'm going to have) to look at me and say, "you always will be gorgeous to me, dearest, my sweetheart." Ok, am I in dreamland here?

Well, I get real bummed about not losing weight but I think I'm over the disgust at myself. I may joke that I can't stand it but it's not the look, it's my slothfulness or lack of discipline or whatever. Feeling bad about yourself is a lot of bullshit, internalized oppression from those who would keep you under thumb, and there are a lot of those types out there! Don't turn the whip on yourself, I say! rip it from their hands and throw it away with ultra-sexy (at whatever weight) chilling nonchalance! What?!! Me care?!?!

You know, you talking about positive things we can say to ourself. I once had done this and it was really neat, but that was, keep a diary of all the good things that happy, all the things that made me feel good during the day and write them all down, ONLY the good things and then reread them all the time. Yes, going to start doing that again.

Well, check you out later. Hope you get your walkman! :flow1:

Crime girl
01-09-2005, 12:27 AM

Red- Okay- during Lost Boys (bf's pick of movie) I thought about your situation and this is what I came up with. I think that you have several options that I can think of. First off, is there a different area you can work for that doesn't have a wanker running it? Do you trust him?
Also- while freelance writing you have to have some contacts and fellow reporters that you have become friendly with. I would talk to anyone you can to fish for a new paper or opportunity that might interest you. Also, have you looked on the internet for possibilities with sites? I think you would be a great writer for a website.
I think the bottom line comes down to the same one you have in relationships- what is the biggest amount of crap you are willing to put up with before the crap outweighs the benefits of working there? If you decide things are not bad enough to leave you are going to have to reaffirm your commitment to work there everyday. You are going to have to try to stay away from negative people and try to see the good in all the bad. I know that is hard but if it is not bad enough to leave you are going to have to fully commit to hanging in there and making the best of a bad situation. It is your decision. If leaving looks good- start making moves to do that. Fully commit to leaving and trying something new. Don't let change scare you and keep in your mind that you are a talented writer that has a lot to offer and you are going to follow your heart until you find what you are looking for. This might mean that things will be bad before they get good. You may have to take jobs in the meantime to pay the bills but as long as you are moving toward what makes you happy it will be worth it.
I know this might seem like "bubblegum" advice but this is what I think. Either way you go you need to fully commit to it and make the best of it or you are going to drive yourself crazy trying to struggle toward a goal that you have yet to define. You need to pick a stance and go with it. I hope this makes sense. This is the best advice I can give. I hope things work out for the best for you and you find yourself somewhere that makes you happy to go to work. Keep talking and airing out the struggles if it helps. You can PM me or email me if you want- I am here if you need to talk. :D

little grasshopper- I am sorry the walkman didn't work out. Maybe you can get a cheaper one for a little while and work on the bf for something more advanced. Maybe save for an iPod if that is your passion. I know it is mine- I would love to have one. ;)
I think you gave your friend some good advice but from her viewpoint I also know it is hard to follow sometimes. I have decided I am going to have a t-shirt made that says , "Yes I am fat, why do you think I go to the gym? " to wear when I go to the school's gym. :lol: What red said makes sense to me- the gym is a place to improve the way my body looks- of course I am not going to be slim and fit when I go- that is the point. I think maybe your friend lets things settle in with time and I bet she took to heart your advice.
I LOVE your journal idea and I am going to do that because I think it is wonderful. I am going to write 5 good things a day so thanks for the suggestion.

Okay well tomorrow is weigh in day for most of us! Let me know how you are doing if you want. Also- let's reaffirm what we want to accomplish this week. What are the goals for this week for you guys?

01-09-2005, 06:45 AM
Crime girl -- Thank you SO much for taking the time to give me your advice. I read it on my cell phone while walking to the riding club in the bitter cold! I am going to think it over well and get back to you. I think you hit on something there about the goal. I think I need to define that more than what I did last year, which was just be able to keep the horse. Well, I want to add to that this year and include my creative work, as well as the work i do mostly just for the money (though some of that is writing too).

I have to do some translation work now and also want time to give your advice a good thinkover since you took the time to help me out. You are really sweet, Crime girl and what a friend!

And I am going to write in my "what nice things happened to me today" journal. I think I have to make note of them though throughout the day because they are often things that I forget because they're not big things, but they are things I definitely notice or that made me feel good, like this evening, walking back from the riding stable I was looking at the mountains in the distance. The sun was setting behind them and coloring the clouds and the mountains were different shades of gray, the ones in front, the middle, in back. It was so pretty and normally I never see it because I'm never out there that late in the day. Anyhow. . . yes, I got to ride today!! The first time this year!! It was so cold, and windy and my hands were frozen getting the horse tacked up but once I was riding only my face was cold. I get exercise-induced asthma a bit from the cold air, which is also very, very dry but it goes away if I rest for just a short time. I usually take a lesson, so it's very regimented and boy, was I really hurting from not having ridden in two weeks. Ugh, says the slug. But it was great!

Ok, I will be back. Hope to see lots of posts when I get up tomorrow morning. Crime girl, thanks again!

little grasshopper
01-09-2005, 09:10 AM
Good morning (evening) guys!!

Red - I am SO excited for you, that you got to ride finally!!!! I bet it was cold as heck - I also bet there wasn't a temp that could have kept you away if they were open :) :) I'm really happy for your! You waited way too long for this ride. Sounds like you are feeling more positive about your health program...are you, or just distracted by the talk of work? Just checking :) Either way, I think you're right - redifining and reminding ourselves of our goals is a great way to stay clear and motivated. Also to see if our goals are reasonable or not :) I have not set a weekly weight or inches loss goal becaus I have no control over my diet - as far as what I eat. It will have to fall off, as it falls off. And I really don't know how quickly exercise will effect it. I do have a goal to be at 135 before I got to Arkansas to see my family. That would be wonderful!!! I don' know if it's reasonable considering the program I'm on, or not. I think people that were very toxic and had a TON of weight or water retention see immediate DRASTIC results. But if you have less than 60 it seems to be a slower process. I'm okay though because I know I'm healthier and stronger and the slower time is making me face the emotional part of it that's not to up and cheery and motivating. I'm having to face every situation I would normally turn to junk to get through and learn how to do it without reaching for the junk.

Okay I made my part about you - completely about me. Sorry.

Crime girl - lost boys? How was it? At first I thought you meant goonies. :) :) I don't think I've seen lost boys though. We are wanting to go see the fockers movie today. Will depend on whether or not we finish the buidling we're building. Mostly done - we just have to put up the door now - oh, and build the door :) I can't WAIT to get all the bikes out of my house!!! I have a whole room that is nothing but a computer desk and bikes! (and bike parts)

okay enough stalling, here is my number for the week. I have lost 2 pounds. So I am at 138. My goal is 125 and then check in with Doc and see if I'm where he wants me. I think back to college and I was about 115 still and I was strong and healthy and not at all the "skinny" young girl look. I was just lean. It's not like I can change my eating or exercising when I hit my goal so I'll just see where all of this takes me. I like looking at it this way because I realize more than ever before in my life that it's not about weight loss now, but about a life change. this doesn't stop the day I hit my goal....It is a life long, healthy change. I feel good about it. Like I've made the change and all the good stuff will follow.

The eyes are a good place to look for toxins in the body. Mine use to be mostly brownish/green. Now they are greenish/grey. There is the little bit of brown around the pupil - a sign that I'm not totally detoxed but the greenish grey is wild and there also use to be a lot of yellow mixed in (toxins in the liver) there is not there now. Very cool to watch your eyes change color as you become more healthy!

okay better get started on breakfast. Talk with you all later!

Crime girl
01-09-2005, 11:56 AM
Please move to Battle of the Bulge #7 at