Support Groups - Amazing Autumn Royal Adventure Ii! All Welcome!!

11-16-2004, 06:19 AM
:wizard: Welcome all from every kingdom, province, monarchy, duchy, federation, or ------------------( please fill in the blank)......


This adventure promises to lead us to places we've never been but have longed to see ... this adventure promises to teach things we thought we knew ... this adventure will be amazing!!

So, call your coachman, the adventure awaits!!

And as most adventures are written by the adventurer....

YOU decide ( and who better??) what direction you shall fly your colors!!

This adventure is a shared adventure... with other royals who will share and support ....

Open the blinds! Let down the drawbridge! Sound the trumpets!


The Amazing Adventure Continues!!!

11-16-2004, 07:32 AM
Hello all!

Weighin shows nearly 2lbs up..... in all honesty, its not water ...I've not been journaling, not been climbing stairs, ......

This is part of the reason for the PART II beginning ....
I need to grab the compass and at least become more involved in my own journey than I have been the past few months....

In fact, what I HAVE been doing ( as of yesterday) is realizing for the first time, if I let myself feel whatever the feeling is, I am not grabbing the food....

This is a new experience for me. Very uncomfortable frankly. I am not used to feeling the full effects of sadness, disappointment, etc.
But in sharing it now, I suddenly felt much of the feeling lighten.
Interesting... we are always so quick for a "solution" to our emotions...
could it be we need more to just "feel" our feelings???

Interesting how when I finally "get" something its directly related to how much it effects my feelings.....

I imagined, that getting this close to goal (now a few pounds further) would be full of confidence, walking tall, ...( imagine skipping)....
Instead, it seems as though I am a bundle of nerves and prone to tears....

Yes, it is the beginning of the holiday season when I typically get nostalgic...

Yet, I still have to go back to this ephiphany this morning when I literally felt the sadness I felt when I awoke lift when I named it as I shared with you.

Thought of the day :

"Every person that comes into our life comes for a reason,
some come to learn and others come to teach."

---Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Question of the day :

"What do you know as well as the back of your own hand?"


Till later my friends... thanks for being here ...

You are all the best!


11-16-2004, 02:25 PM
Ah, thank you Kaylets for the new thread. Always appreciate new and Fresh starts.

I too have noticed in recent times that sometimes I eat out of boredom. Now this is not news to many but I have always said I'm never bored, that I always have too many interests or responsibilities to ever be bored. Yet, occasionally, I have acknowledged that food is calling me because I don't feel like doing those other things. Once that calling is recognized, it's easier for me to say nay.

Sunny day today. DH and I did a 35 minute walk around the neighborhood this a.m. Off to the dermatologist shortly. Another decent food, water, exercise day yesterday. Nekkid weigh in was @200.2. Sigh - I'd love to be safely in onederland - safely meaning clothing doesn't put me over. It SHOULDN'T take so much effort to get rid of that .2 and a bit more - should it?

Eydie, I'll keep you apprised when we get to the decorating. I have a two story with red brick first floor and white second. Shutters are black. I usually put an evergreen swag w/red bow at base of each window (alack no longer fresh cut by my own hand as in yore) w/single candle in each window. Four outside lamps on front of house are done in wreaths and bows as are both sides of mailbox post. This much is a given. And is very attractive if I do say so myself. Plus wreath on red front door. Am still working on what else. Depends on whether tree goes in living room or family room which depends on whether dh wants to do train set or not. Nice for grandkids but they do have one of their own at home. I confess to have played our two new CDs of Christmas music. After all, I did have to hear if they were ok or not ;)

11-17-2004, 05:50 AM
Hi, :queen: s ... thanks for a new thread, Kaylets!

Anagramatic, .2 sometimes be harder to get off than 100 ... it's when we're doing well and maintaining a good balance that the body wants to hold on to ... keep going. You're doing great ...

Well, I be on a DIET 'cause I couldn't stop eating last week ... I BELIEVE IN DIETS ... am now the Diet Faerie ... details on journal in a diet land far far away.

Sorry for the crypticness o' this postie and brevity ... it be 3 a.m. ... can't sleep but can't think either.

Biz as usual.

11-17-2004, 05:51 AM
Sword Bearer, thanks for visiting my journal!

Clap your hands if you believeeeee in faeries ~ signed, Peter Pan

11-17-2004, 07:23 AM
Thanks to Kaylets for starting the bright shiny new thread! :) Gird yer loins, Kaylets, 'cause we're going into a time of great nostalgia and we can let it overwhelm us or we can seek out the really good juice of the season [and I don't mean mulled cider! :lol: ].
At this time of year, I anxiously await seeing how gracefully I move thru the holidays, or how un-gracefully! :o
I'm telling you, start planning now----the sugar plums [what ARE they?] and little sausages and cheese balls will be lying in wait and only too happy to attach to our thighs.

Don't worry, Anagram. Nekkid weigh-in is so close! Your decorations sound lovely. I LOVE red doors---good feng shui!

Amarantha/Athletea, I plan an expedition this afternoon to your neck of the woods. Maybe I'll lure away a sugar plum faery for my holiday companion! ;)

11-17-2004, 07:48 AM
Hello all!

Ah well, the sometimes the wheels turn very slowly and then, w/o realizing it, the "crisis" moves beyond us.....
And then sometimes, we say, "gee, I guess I overreacted ".......
Short story... DH made did lend the money but w/ a limiitations.....
I am still sorely tempted to call her privately and let her know how this affects his health but then again, I am also wonder if I should have SIL do that for me.... But since she doesnt really know how stress affects diabetics I wonder ......

EMPRESS!!!! I am clapping!! Yes, I believe in fairies and pigs flying too....

Anagram! Your walks sound great.... Dh and I should do the same...w/ dogs in tow... we all could benefit...

Other royals??
How goes it?


Thought of the day :

"You know more of a road having traveled it than by all the conjectures and descriptions in the world."
--William Hazlet

Question of the day :

"Name your favorite cartoon."



11-17-2004, 05:47 PM
Of course, I believe in faeries (and fairies too) but I don't know about pigs.

Lovely day - drove "halfway" to meet up w/friends for lunch. And my tummy now is empty. That's even w/pumpkin pie. Hmmm. But in a lovely, restored old place (we've been there before and last time the owner took us on a tour of all the bedrooms, etc. - it's an Inn - lovely and all done by these lovely people) w/ lovely menu items so of course I thought of Eydie. So lunch took up most of today. OK so I counted and I used "lovely" five times in five lines. I must be braindead too.

I don't know that the phone call would help, Kaylets. Sometimes when people feel they need "help" nothing matters but the cash. And, no, you didn't overreact. At one time we had this problem w/some of dh's family members and I could have told them our house and car were being repossessed and it would not have made a whit of difference. He was accustomed to "helping" because that got rid of the "noise" but once he married me and then, much more so, when we had children, he gradually got the idea that no matter how often he helped or how much, things weren't going to change until he changed his response. I understood wanting to help family but I did not understand being taken advantage of nor did I understand that I was being frugal and others were very definitely not being and I told him if that's the way it was going to be, I could waste money too. Long story short, he was able to help these people at later stages of life because he is good hearted and by then we could afford it better and by then the emotional blackmail had stopped and he was doing it on HIS terms, not theirs. Some of the reasons for needing "help" you'd have to be very creative to come up with. I've saved some letters just because if I didn't have them, I'd have thought I dreamed it all. One of the people eventually straightened his sorry self out (and eventually even repaid $300); the other, I'm sorry to say, never really did. But she did stop asking for money when it became fruitless. (Again, he picked up a lot of tabs for her later in life.) Anyway, that's how I know how fruitless it can be to expect people to understand YOU or DH may have a need.

Off soapbox.

11-17-2004, 08:36 PM
Hello all!

The "feast day" at work will continue thru Friday I am sure....
Because many entered the Bakeoff, there were duplicate offerings from many...
All in all, must have been at least 8-9 pies, frozen, bakeoff, etc, etc, a 3 layer peanut butter german choc cake, Turtle cheesecake....
All I can say is, I had none of that....
I brought a fruit salad and found a Ceasar salad as well as the peas and carrots someone else brought... Also enjoyed an Asian Veg bun that a new coworker brought... She is a youngster and bought them which is great because we shop at the same Asian store and now I know I'd like to buy more.
I think at least..
They are made in China... Makes me wonder ....

Anagram-- yes, you're absolutely right of course. I knew I wouldnt call my SIL as SIL enjoys playing devils advocate just for the drama and who knows where it would've led.....
And you are 100% right about it wouldnt matter what our financial situation was ....... DS will not eat what we do and we got tired of providing, especially since he has given up washing a dish or any chore his father requests....just 2 days ago, he left us a greasy nasty fry pan to find. The trash showed he had cooked a $10.00 steak for himself. Angus beef mind you.
And don't even get me started about the heat and the bedroom window he opens ... the only thing that got thru to him was DH literally waking DS up at 5 am ( very loudly!) to have the bedroom window closed ... This was the 4th day in a row of us waking up to the heater running like mad because DS's window was wide open to the nearly freezing night air....

Ah well, there I go again.....

All I know is, DH's blood sugar # this am was over 200 and its because of stress....

And btw, DD's money was wired to her last night. DH called her w/t eh confirm # so she could pick it up. DH got an email from the wire company that the money had been picked up about 20 minutes after DH called DS.
That's all we've heard.
But you know for sure, if there was a problem .... we'd have gotten a call right away....


as far as I am concerned, this is it. No mas.

Bank is closed.


How is everyone else doing?? Got to be more interesting than what's been happening in my kingdom!


And DH and I are

11-18-2004, 06:49 AM
Hello all!

As the Empress says, "In brevity mode"..... I know, must be a relief to know I will be short and sweet this time....

Thought of the day:

"Change your thoughts and you change the world."
--Norman Vincent Peale

Question of the day:

"What is the most annoying commercial you've ever seen?"



and thanks again all for allowing me to vent....

I have settled down a bit and am trying to remember that although I cannot change the situation, I can change my reaction....

Thanks !

11-18-2004, 02:36 PM
Hello, my dears.

Well, what do I say? I could fill pages of why I was gone and how badly I feel I've done by you in doing that. I don't know why I stayed away, my dears. The death of my friend in June isn't really the reason, though the repercussions were larger than I'd expected...I've been going through a bit of a depression, actually, and unfortunately communication is the first thing to go when the blues knock on my door. If it's any comfort, all of the friends I regularly correspond with were also callously deprived of my sparkling conversation.

I missed you all - reading your posts for the first time in months felt like coming home to me. Can you forgive my long absence and let me stay? :^:

I'm seeing a counselor for a while. I've had two sessions with her. Of course I won't ever get rid of my highs and lows - it's part and parcel of being a Gemini, among other things, but at least she's helping me work through my low periods where nothing gets done and all sorts of things (not least of all my dear long-distance friends with whom I cease to communicate for alarming periods of time) fall by the wayside which shouldn't.

Anyway, I'll leave it up to you to decide whether I'm too much of a liability to the group or whatever...I realize that leaving with no notice and then popping in with a splash after a long hiatus is not good for your collective psyches.

Health-wise it's S-O-S. Same weight, same eating habits, same fitness level.

Glad to "see" you again, ladies.

11-18-2004, 06:42 PM
:D :D :D Dear Cerise! Welcome Back! I'm sooo happy to see you again and have thought about you so many times. Tried to e-mail you, but it didn't work. But no matter, you're back so let the feast begin! [Something very healthy but yummy, of course.]

'A liability to the group'----never! That's crazy talk and I know I'm speaking for all the queens. About the depression, don't isolate--it seems like the reasonable thing to do when you're depressed, but don't do it. We're still here and we never stopped wondering how you were. If you went back thru all the posts since June [yikes! that'd be a chore!] you'd see your name come up quite a few times.
How's the counseling going? Isn't it just the best? I wish I had a counselor living in my spare room so every day I could get a little 'tune-up'!

Cerise, I don't even know where to start. I want to tell you every teeny little detail of my life over the past 6 months [riveting! :lol: ], but let's just pick up where we left off. PLEASE keep posting! :)

11-18-2004, 07:06 PM
Oh, poopie, poopie, poopie. Dammit, if only I'd THOUGHT. Even a note saying "I'm OK but don't want to talk" would've at least assuaged your collective worries. I'm such a chump and I apologize for just running off and making you all imagine the worst.

Eydie, I'd like to hear the riveting details, you know. And no worries about not continuing to post, luv. I hope at least that the isolating habit is in hand now. We'll see, right?

11-18-2004, 07:40 PM

SO GOOD to see you back Cerise! Eydie is right ( never a doubt!), you have been missed and thought many times ...

I wondered if it was us but kept hoping things would smooth out enough for you to stop back .....

There is so much to tell you, I feel just like Eydie does....

Did you notice Frogger pops in every once in awhile?? She had the baby!!

I got a job at the company that downsized me and am working w/many folks I worked with in years past.
Finally got to Speech 10 in Toastmasters too!
In fact, you have perfect timing, I promsised to post it...
nearly forgot!

Can't wait for all the other Royals to see you've come by!

This is exciting as when Punkin came back from her sojurn!

And ps, am almost on Day 5 of no sugar!!


11-18-2004, 07:53 PM
Hey, Cerise is back! :dancer: It is so great to hear from you! Don't think for one second that you are a liability. That's just not acceptable. You are back and that is all that matters!

I've been wayward myself. I've been working on this getting healthy thing and doing what I needed to do for myself. I know you all understand such least I hope so. I have been keeping something of a journal in the land far away. If anyone is really bored, feel free to browse.

Right now I have to scoot to get to the gym on time, but I will be back. I promise!

11-18-2004, 09:27 PM
Ah, the palace is a warmer place now that the Viscountess has stopped in and reported on her sojourn. Verily, thou hast been much missed and we trust you'll be in and out on a more regular basis - time and circumstances permitting.

So sorry to hear that you've been in that depressed mode. But you seem now to be on the right track. Life sort of happens to us all at one point or another and we have no real choice but to slog on and hopefully have a safe place to vent. Or a place to get a warm group hug. Many times, the court has helped me over rough spots. Hope we can do the same for you.

I miss the tales of life in Seattle, of Ramon, art, music and sport. So heave back on the wagon - if just the posting wagon for now. And when you're really ready, we'll have some kind of virtual celebration celebrating your return and life in general.

Good day here today. Still some positive thinking's been required to ward off the downers. Walked the neighborhood, food/water ok. Lots of things crossed off the list today but those darn lists just keep growing, esp. this time of year.

Off we go.......

11-18-2004, 10:39 PM
Y E A H ! Cerise is BACK!

Good to see you girl! You have been fondly remembered and missed sorely.

Just flyin' on by....stomach is really bothering me. Think I'll just hit the hay with a book.

:wave: to all :queen:s


11-19-2004, 07:20 AM
Hello all!


DH is very upbeat as he is off from work all next week....

Hope everyone has a royal day!

Thought of the day:

"If you don't like something, change it;
if you can't change it, change the way you think about it."
--Maya Angelou

Question of the day :

"Can you drive a 'stick shift'?"



11-19-2004, 08:19 AM
All's well now--not only is Cerise back, but the Wandering Queen Wildfire has has come back to us. And I'm heading over to her journal to check things out right now. And I'll stop by to see Amarantha/Athletea too! :coffee:

Now the court would be complete if Punkinseed came by today to declare it Friday. ;)

11-19-2004, 09:09 AM
QOD Yup...I took my test on a standard...and the first Aerostar we had was a stick....lots of raised eyebrows on that one!

Arabella, are you off your sick bed? I hope so...the number of ill people coming into the library these days is astounding. I have my hand sanitizer and bleach spray at the ready at all times! Actually the question should be how did you weather that storm? Do you have power? And are you dug out yet?

Am off for brekkie with the parentals and Gram...96 years old. I am lucky to have them...a lot of my friends are losing theirs...another one just found out yesterday that her dad has liver cancer...I think the time line there is short...can someone enlighten me? Makes me sad. And appreciative that my parents are relatively healthy.

So must hustle....will check in later!

:wave:to wsw, Anagram, Arabella, Empress A., Kaylets, Eydie, Cerise, Punkin, Wildfire, Seecat, Frogger, and lurkers!


11-19-2004, 10:06 AM
Pop-in fly-by~ :wave: Hello, Lovies! I'm not terribly sick any more, just dragging my butt. This week I've been able to do regular walks and gym, although not up to running or anything really vigorous again yet. Everything seems just a bit too difficult, courtesy of low energy, so I'm trying to accomplish those things that I really must do and not too much else. I shall return, however! Thinking of all of you, regularly and with great fondness.

And so happy to see our darling Cerise back amongst us! Welcome! If anything, it just goes to show that one should never give up hope, because there you are again.

Love to all!

11-19-2004, 05:26 PM
Hola, chickies.

Before I try to go back to normalcy on this thread, let me just take a sec to tell you all how gracious you are and how grateful I am for your warm welcome back. You are all generous-hearted and so very...nice! I promise that if I check out again I will at least give you notice. Between you and me, though, I'd rather just stay on regularly and I'll make every effort to be in here as much as I can. Every day would be cool...

Arabella, poor thing! Your plan to take it a little easy today sounds good, so I'll not say more, except that I wish for a peaceful, good-feeling day for you today.

Ceara, I feel the same way about my parents - grateful for their relative good health. I'm nervous, of course, because I'm at that age (or I should say that they're at that age - early 60s) when I realize for the first time that my parents are human and will die someday. Eeks. And my grandparents have all passed with the exception of my grandmother who's in the final stages of Alzheimer's. Actually, I'm seeing Mom and Dad this weekend across the state (with The Ramon, of course). Thanks - you've reminded me to enjoy their good company to the fullest. We are lucky, aren't we? How's your tum-tum?

Eydie, the only thing wrong with counsellors is that if they're good (and mine is, thank Jeebus) you immediately start feeling better - even the act of going seeing them makes you feel more in control and on top of problems and like you're...handling life, you know? That's great, the feeling better, but I'm afraid that I'll go back to feeling low and rudderless when she and I stop our sessions. I'm just going to make sure that - even if our session's going well and I'm feeling good about where she's guiding me - I have real, tangible guidance about what to do if I'm feeling low and sluggish and have no one to run to for a pep talk anymore. I guess that's what you mean, maybe. Anyway, that's what self-help books are for, RIGHT??? ;)

QOD: Yes, I can. I couldn't until my ex-fiance (Ramon's my rebound guy, did you know that?) put me in the driver's seat of his Festiva and screamed at me for a few hours while I juddered around a parking lot. Great memory.

Kaylets, my darling, darling, darling. It was never, ever you, anyone else or the collective soul on this thread that 'drove me away'. I get really, really sleepy and lazy and slow-moving during my low periods, that's all, and the last thing I want to do is type messages and emails. I promise. Poor dear. I'm sorry I made you wonder for so long. Anyway, wiping tears, on to business... is your husband's diabetes a new development since June (gulp) or was I just not paying attention? I'm sorry to hear about the stress your kids have caused you both, and it must be distressing especially to see his blood sugar go all wonky as a direct result. Yee-IKES! Poor're such a wonderful lady and you and DH truly don't deserve this...I'm glad he's got some time off to look forward to, sweetums. :grouphug:

Anagram, I hope too that my nasty habit of cocooning (sp?) when I'm low is drawing to a timely end. Your XMas decorations sound GORGEOUS. Reading your plans for them kinda got me all googly-feeling. I love, love, loooove the holiday season. Send pictures? Maybe? :p Sending up prayers for your hubby's kidneys, lovey.

Wildfire, I missed you! Um, did you ever share with the group about the mysterious Irish being you were...hooking up with or whatever? NOT your DH? Hmmm. :s: How's DD?

Amarantha, how you doin'? I thought of you when I bought soy protein powder at Trader Joe's, mixed some of it with OJ and nearly killed myself trying to drink it, floaties and all. I had a very vivid "What would Amarantha do?" moment just then while I was trying very hard not to toss my carrots. Of course, I thought of you during some good times, too... :lol:

Punkin - Happy Friday to you, luv. How I missed you. How's mumsies? How are YOU? I checked out on your (I think it was your...) recommendation. A very cool site, and I'm contacting some circles in the area even now. I did briefly join a women's circle here, but left. They were extraordinary women and very kindly and graciously included me, but it was a really secular and sort of...psychological empowerment-y circle and I was looking more for some ritual and some celebration of the old holidays (Samhain, solstice, the Moons, etc.), so I thanked them extensively for their friendship and bugged out. I still feel kind of wistfully sad about leaving - I really liked them - but think I did the right thing...I'm not sure I want to be a full-blown wicca, though. And I haven't ruled out Zen Buddhism, either. I'm classifying myself as a bitter agnostic for the moment, but still feel that pull towards having a spiritual life, too. I feel like such a dillettante sometimes. :rolleyes:

Anyway, fitness and health. I'm not even going to mention eating except to say that I'm spending a lot of brain-time psyching myself up to go vegan. That's how I went vegetarian...spent lots of time getting mentally ready and then just did it. I'll have help - boy howdy. and will always be there for me.

Fitness: I told Gold's Gym to take a hike and joined a gym across the street from work and went 4 times per week in a flurry of excitement for a while and then...why am I telling you all this? You know the drill. So now my counsellor and I have come to the sad conclusion that treadmills, elliptical machines and weight-lifting do not work for me. At least, doing them for the purpose of appearance, weight, cardio-vascular health and strength is not working. Those are all motivations that don't...motivate me. Fun motivates me. So, I'm enrolling for a dance class in the winter quarter of our local (and very close!) community college. I'm feverishly trying to decide between hip-hop (no partner required), flamenco (also not as partner-oriented) and salsa. I'm scared to death, ladies. FAT PEOPLE DON'T DANCE!!! At least not on TV, in movies, onstage or in any other media you'd choose to watch. So I'm trying not to think about what others will think (and trying not to imagine any future partner's face falling when they see me and contemplate dancing with me - taking the class with Ramon is not currently an option and I'm NOT PUSHING HIM) or what I'll see in the mirror...I thought I had all this body-image BS worked out already! :mad: Maybe it's a good sign...I'm putting myself out there, challenging my boundaries and having a **** of a time (I've always suspected that there's a killer dancer in here somewhere). Maybe this is the "thing" that will kill the doldrums for good for a while. Maybe I'll lose some weight...

I'm tired of trying to lose weight so I can dance.

So, thanks for listening to my Newest Magical Scheme for Self-Improvement. I know you've heard a million. It's embarrassing (soccer? What's that?), but I guess that's why we're here, right? To try and fail and try something else and cheer each other on...

Love to you,

11-20-2004, 02:21 PM
Hello all!

Rain passsed thru this morning but still overcast.
Actually had a discussion w someone very very close to me who actually suggested that many wives would not have tolerated DH's inabilty to say no to his children.... very interesting thought.... not sure if it was suggested as a weapon or if I was being complimented or scolded....

Also realized that an entirely different friend cannot be used for "the shoulder " anymore as she is now overwhelmed in her own troubles... its been evident that often she hasnt heard what I've been saying but now I see where she is so distracted she is saying things , eg. "4pm" and then I repeat the time back to her, am told " I just said 2:30 ".... I knew her health was bad and was afraid she was overmedicated and now am convinced....
I have to be her shoulder for awhile.....

So... DH is out looking for a better vehicle to drive ( please don't say more expensive!).....
He knows this is one of the few things I despise doing...... He enjoys the give and take.... I feel like I'm being assaulted and then made to sign a payment schedule for the assault.....

And.... what do you think of this .....???

Yeserday evening, as I was waiting for the bus, a coworker from b/4 the dowsizing happened by ......

and in conversation, says he ( now a manager) has openings and that the pay scale is much better than what I am earning now.... Of course, he is guesstimating my salary based on when he was a supervisor b/4 the downsizing.... I don't know for sure what his people were earning then... I know what I was earning then and now....

He said when he was hired he increased his salary by $32,000.....
sure, his business card know reads Manager instead of Supervisor... BUT...

He only told me this after I said I couldnt consider leaving as I felt loyalty in being rehired....
and, I even turned to someone standing next to me and said, "Did he just say $32,000??" ....
Frankly, right now $5k a yr more would be very handy ....
I discussed w/ DH and left a voice mail message for my fri
end of " Ok, you have my interest, let's chat.'.....

My guess is the openings would be for the 2005 budget..... and again....
all could be just talk....
its nearly exactly what I was doing b/4 the downsizing.....
not the same computer system but the same product, theory, etc....

Interesting how if I wasnt waiting for the bus, I would've never seen him...

What was the topic awhile back about "being out there...?"


11-21-2004, 10:15 AM
Yo, :queen: s!!! So in brevity mode as have lots o' the payin' work to do and no time to do it and again apologies for not being very responsive in this thread but still NEED to be a part o' the group so I pop in 'n out ... thanks be to those who visit me in that journal land far, far away ... noting that the fair Cerise be back safe within' palace walls (I pm'd thee, Cerise), I'd ask that each :queen: PLS consider themselves responded to as I do care about all o' thee deeply ... just having a review of life in general right now ... details on my response to :queen: K on the journal ... nothing else of import to report (rhymes, hmmm) ... lost 1.4 pounds and entering a new phase o' the FAERIE DIET ... details in the other place ... not wanting to take up space here ... also have to depart now as cat torturing me by using back of computer chair as instrument to madly sharpen claws ... she KNOWS this is driving me nuts and continues to do it ... sigh ... bye :wave:

11-21-2004, 11:51 AM
Hello all!

New vehicle now sits in the driveway... yes, brand new... and perhaps I am psychic, as it has a stickshift!! So, I will have to practice as its been at least 30 yrs since I drove a standard drive ... and then only for a few miles...


otherwise ... trying to motivate myself to update the resume ( at least it only needs a small update) and forward it on....
Figure that can't hurt...

Grrrr... but not my idea of fun...
but really need to explore this possibility as for better reimbursement...


Did the grocery store routine this am w a DF .... hit two stores and was back home by 9 am.... got some insight on fresh tarragon from the produce manager... he even let us taste it ...never realized it tasted like licorice... might even taste great as tea.... in fact, had such a long discussion was accused of flirting w the produce manager... Hee hee...
We'll have to make sure the gossip columns don't hear about this....

anyway, Dh is looking to put a movie on... we stopped at the library last night and took a few for the week....

We watched Good Fellows last night... now we know why everyone always mentions Good Fellows and the Sopranos in the same breath....
Not sure what we'll watch today...


Hope everyone is doing well...Keep swimming!

11-21-2004, 09:27 PM
Still recovering from my work Christmas party last night. We had fun. A LOT of fun. Okay, a little TOO MUCH fun...but won some cool prizes, including a digital camera.

Kaylets, congrats on the new car! Always fun. Not one thing wrong with flirting (even if you weren't ;) ). It is an art, and one that should be practiced. Certainly worth checking into the pay raise and new position...after all, they downsized YOU once, go ahead and return the favor. :yes: Who's to say they wouldn't do the same again?

Cerise, you were truly missed. I am so happy you've come back to us. What's this "fat people don't dance" business? Says who?? I've done plenty, from highland to ballroom to plain old shaking a tail feather...everyone can dance! And it's great exercise. You will be fabulous! Oh, the closest and dearest friend. We've been talking online for eight years, never have met, and decided it is time. Chicago in the Spring. I am so excited I can't stand it! He saved me from myself eight years ago, and we have been chatting, e-mailing, and telephoning ever since. I love him dearly. It was a condition of my getting involved with my DH that he not interfere with this relationship, it is that important to me. Luckily DH turned out to be secure enough to be comfortable with me having male friends, as I have another here that I see quite regularly as well as chat with. So I'm really working on whipping myself into shape before then. My Irishman inspires me in so many ways and I just want to be the best possible me I can be when I see him after all these years. How is Ramon? Work? Your family? Fill us in!

Arabella, hope you are feeling better! Did you get any of that freak snow storm that hit Halifax so hard? My sister in Cape Breton had no snow at all, just rain.

Hello to Eydie, Ceara, Anagram, wsw, Amarantha, Frogger (how's the wee one? Pictures?)

11-22-2004, 06:42 AM
Hello all!

Bowling last night had its own drama... machinery problems slowed things down, which gave some folks more time to drink which then made for more drama.... Frankly, couldnt wait to get out of there.... my bowling either is pretty much under my control .....or completely opposite... I will think I am doing all the right things and then see by the result that my swing was wild rather than straight, my body off balance, missteps in my approach....
hmmmmmm..... lots of parallels for other drama in life ....

Wildfire... Good point... and I needed to hear that... I've been twisting around my lack of loyalty to them but what about what's due me??
Thanks for pointing that out...
and in fact, there is a constant rumor that ALL of the company will eventually relocate to the "new" headquarters....

To everyone... here's to a good Monday... I am going update my resume quickly so I can email it b/4 I leave this am.. ( I hope)...

Thought of the day :

"Wisdom is knowing when you can't be wise."
---Paul Engle

Queston of the day :

"Do you use coupons?"



11-22-2004, 08:59 AM
QOD sometimes.
Sound like a good time Wildfire...ah-ha. The mysterious Irishman.
I have to be short this a.m. Have that thing that my employers like to call Book Club, but whch actually mandatory training. And a pain in the butt besides. My stress level must be high....2 cold sores popped out on Friday, new staff, old staff will be leaving soon...and management doesn't know...girl probs for DS, people dying....Shoot! Where's the chocolate? It's a vegetable, right?

Gotta run.

11-23-2004, 01:43 AM
Hello, loves. Sorry I was AWOL for the weekend. Ramon and I went to Spokane on the eastern side of the state to visit my parental units. We had a lovely time, though their internet was not working. Sorry for the gross two-day neglect.

I did go through and check up on you :D today and wanted to stop in and say how happy I am that you're here. Love to you all and I'll post properly tomorrow morning.


11-23-2004, 07:21 AM
Hello all!
I come bearing gifts for all!

1 minute of deep breathing, in and ouuuuuttttttt.......

What a great idea for all of us!!

******* :D

Short story-- Sunday's dinner and Monday's lunch was lentil soup....
seems as though the lentils were not 100% cooked....didnt realize till too late
Created a very uncomfortable chemical reaction!!!
Spent the whole workday eating tums and ..........
Nearly 1/2 the office is on vacation all week so I had to stay ....

Then rain and traffic got me home 5 minutes after my WW's meeting ended....

So, I just tried to grin and bear it and went to bed b/4 7pm.....

Feel more cheerful this am ....amazing how 10 hrs solid sleep will do that for you...

***Thought of the day :

"Single journey begins with one step"

Question of the day :

"What's for lunch?"


11-23-2004, 08:38 AM
Morning, all. Lunch will be the doggie bag from last night's dinner - l cabbage roll and part of my salad. Yum. Stomach is improving enough that I dared the cabbage roll and fortunately (unlike poor Kaylets) have had no ill effect. And yes, I use coupons though I hate the whole business.

And I love the understanding DH of Wildfire. And the Irishman too for saving said W. from herself.

Having been having long conversations w/me again. Want to give up on this weight loss (because I'm not losing) - just must remind self that we don't want to gain back 45 pounds nor go to less healthy eating. Do we? Well, sometimes we get we just don't cae but then I could no longer be a Queen. So.....

Had a startling "ME" moment the other night when I realized just how stressed out I've been about dh possibly needing to go back on dialysis. So I sat and played solitaire on the computer while I analyzed all this. One, It's not about ME; he's the one who would have to endure and I would feel sad and supportive. I can do that. If it's to be home dialysis, I really don't have a lot of physical strenth to do some of the rearranging, etc. that would need to be done to accommodate. So like wsw, I realized I will have to ask for what help is needed. I have two children, I have siblings (who are not, frankly, much help to me, except for one), I have young neighborhood boys who might be hired, etc. It's amazing how things can be destressed once you pinpoint exactly what the stresses are. It still won't be easy but it can be done if it must be done. And so far he's just this side of the line. Of course, he's refusing to consider the possibility yet and I'm definitely a worry(plan)-ahead of time type. Son will be travellign an 8 day stretch and SIL a ten day stretch in January and I see this coming to a head then. I'm sure at least some of these trips will overlap as SIL often is a speaker/panelist and mtgs of son's organization.

On to more cheerful things. Any fun Thanksgiving plans? I'm working hard on it all and MIGHT have everything together in the next two days. The GOOD part is that all eight of us will be together for a day or two or three. (and I'll use that time to recruit their help for when needed). I'll be recuperating for a week. Should go well. Four and Eight really LOVE the Crown Prince so he will get to keep them entertained some of the time.

Well, on to brekkie. Slimfast this morning but still can't find my flavor/type. I'm sure it's bit the dust.

11-23-2004, 04:58 PM
Oy - that's how I felt when the alarm went off. I was in such a sound sleep that it took me at least 5 seconds to turn the damned thing off. So I guess I slept well...

It's a typical fall day in Seattle. Gray, still and chilly. Most fall and winter days are like that unless the wind starts to blow, then it's decidedly unpleasant. Having spent two summers here now I'm able to say with conviction that I prefer all the seasons to summer in this city. The heat, the crazies, the noise and the smells are so much worse in the summer...the rain and cold and fog dampens it all down a bit, thank god. I took a big breath of relief when the hot weather finally broke.

Anagram, I admire your evaluation of your stress. I know most people would feel completely justified in totally losing their minds, if only temporarily, when faced with something as major as a spouse possibly needing dialysis. You're such a strong woman, but if you don't feel strong sometimes, come in and tell us about it, OK? :grouphug:

Kaylets, you poor thing! You must have felt rotten! :no: Good for you for sleeping so long last night. Why don't I ever do that?

QOD: Ladies, lunch today is an indication of how I've been eating in general for the last few months (years, decades...). A pre-packaged mediterranian pasta salad (very greasy, not very tasty) from a local deli, a bag of chips (small, thank gawd) and a pre-packaged ice-cream-cone. Aaaaagh!!!

Ceara, what is UP with your life lately??? You listed something like 5 separate things that are causing you stress, and they all sound kind of major. What're the chances of you getting a massage somewhere? Sending out sympathy vibes for you... :goodvibes

old QOD: No. I hate coupons.

Wildfire, your Irishman sounds like a great guy. Kudos to your husband for being cool like 'dat. It's funny - jealousy seems to be something that's taken for granted in the average Western relationship. I've had people tell me that Ramon and I just aren't...right when they hear how permissive we are with each other. Do you get that too? God, what are we so afraid of? Do they think that if they catch their wife drooling over the actor in some movie that she's going to run off and screw around? I swear... :rolleyes:

Dude, I know that people of size dance, I hear you, but not that I've ever seen, and I mean that. I've never seen a person of size enjoying themselves on a dance floor, except when the place had mirrors, 'cause I'm the ONLY ONE I KNOW WHO DOES!!! Take back the dance floors, that's what I say! Seattle's got a bunch of clubs who have a Big/Beautiful night, but I'm not into that. I want to dance with every body type. (That just means I want to get jiggy with a young, tight 22-year-old. Not that Ramon minds... :lol3: ) Anyway, I figure that since I love getting up offa my thing, no matter how embarrassed I feel, I should at least get good at it, right?

Om Shanti, 'rantha. :wave: How you doin'?

OK, have a good day, honeys. I'm going to sip water and try to wallow in the feeling of having eaten too much of the wrong stuff. Maybe it'll keep me from doing it again for a while.

11-23-2004, 05:25 PM
Um, I lost all of your addresses, by the way. Stupid of me, I know. I want to send you holiday cards. So, if you're OK with me knowing where you live, can you PM me your info?

I'd really like to know your B-Days, too. Really, really, really. I'd like to victimize you properly on that special day. I'll give you one's my 30th!!! :dz: :stress: :bomb: :censored: :no: :tired: :yikes: :rollpin:

11-23-2004, 05:27 PM
I have been a regular lurker and I think it is time to delurk. So hi! I have been posting of 3FC for a little while and have just been looking for a good place to be. I am on my very first diet, not becuase I have not needed to lose weight in the past, but becuase I was in denial. Now I am on weight watchers and have been since September. I am generally pretty committed and have done fairly well thus far, but I can feel my resolve slipping. I am 32 and kind of artsy. I also cook quite a lot, buy organic and generally try to resist the temptation of processed foods, but I am also prone to eating complete crap if I do not concentrate. I loathe every kind of exercise that I have tried except for hiking and cross country skiing, but I live in a city so neither of these have become as much a part of my routine as I would like them to be. I live with two cats and one boyfriend and one plant that I have not yet killed, but realistically it is only a matter of time till the plant joins all of the others that have met their fate at my hands. Well, thats about it.

11-24-2004, 06:39 AM
Hello all!

Am 100% with the addresses, will respond probably tonight or tomorrow! GREAT IDEA!

Anagram--its so true--- I find w/ myself, its when I'm in the shower or the brain is on autopilot that often the worry I've been avoiding sneaks up on me...
And yes, me too, realizing that I am overwhelmed and need help is often the worst of it for me....

And then, so often, I find out that if I had just spoken up sooner, I would've found more than one option .....

Office is closing at 3 today.... Monday the phones were busy but much of it seemed to be either folks w/ emergencies or folks who honestly sounded very lonesome.....
Yesterday was quieter but again, too many of the calls were folks who were trying to deal w/ the holiday alone.....
Hard to remember that many of us do not spend Thanksgiving the way the commericials on tv show it....
I know I become very nostalgic too....

And believe it or not, its another snack day in the office....
Meatballs and pie is what the email memo said....

I'll just make sure I've got plenty of herb tea and my own meals .....


SeeCat--- glad you stopped by.. So much of your post could have been written by me.... I am still suprised that all of my sugar/junk/etc cravings are no less at my current weight than when I began...

To everyone-- let's do some deep breathing together--we deserve it--
Let's not forget, why we call ourselves royalty!

Thought of the day:

"Learn as if you were going to live forever.
Live as if you were going to die tomorrow."
-Mahatma Gandhi

Question of the day :

"If money and time were no object, what would you like to learn to do ?"




11-24-2004, 06:43 AM
Anagram, I love how you were able to reason out all the what-if's. I think I may try to use that strategy. It's great, it's taking control!!!

Kaylets, thanks for the gift of reminding us all to breathe--I needed that!

Cerise, when do you start your lessons? Are you still bellydancing?

Welcome, Seecat!

I hope to fit in some kind of exercise before I start preparing our Thanksgiving feast. Garry's mom and my brother and sister will be joining us. I've already made my pies--pecan and pumpkin--and I sweetened the pumpkin with apple juice concentrate and the pecan one with rice syrup--because I'm determined to stay sugar-less thru the holidays! Time will tell.....

11-24-2004, 01:43 PM
Good Morning!

I am debating giving myself a day off for thanksgiving. I cannot decide if I would be better off counting points and going way over, or if I am better off not counting and starting fresh tomorow. Or maybe I can behave, but realistically.....

Question o'the day: I would love to learn to play the fiddle and speak french.

My office is open till 5:00 as usual. Kind of a bummer, considering that I will probably get nothing done for the last several hours of the day in anticipation of the holiday and two glorious days off of work.

11-24-2004, 10:28 PM
Hello, darlings. No time to talk! Must finish laundry and clean dishes and pack before heading off to the in-laws' house to celebrate Turkey Day (or in my case, Tofu/Mushroom Loaf Day - doesn't have the same ring...). I'm trying new recipes for the loaf (my first vegan loaf!) and the gravy (oil! oil! oil!), also vegan. That way my in-laws won't ply me with bloody gardenburgers during the traditional meal. Don't get me wrong - I love gardenburgers, but I sure as **** never need them, the amount they cook.

We'll have quite a crowd - Mom and Dad Deslauriers (Ramon's folks), my mom and dad, Nathan my brother (minus his wife - in Italy :mad: ), Abram and Christa (Ramon's brother and SIL) and Vicky and Mattew - Ramon's sister and nephew. Whew. Abram and Christa are vegans, so I'll not be alone in fighting off the fake meat.

So, um, have fun, you Americans, and treasured Canadians (can I come live with you until 2008?) - have a good thursday and pardon my blabbing.

Love to all (and welcome, seecat!),

11-25-2004, 07:45 AM
Hello all!


Its nearly 70 degrees and foggy this am..... I am fine w/ that so I will put the temperature in the plus side of the column....

A best GF is due at the hospital this am at 7 for her Dad. He is very ill and has been on a ventilator too long... They are removing it this morning and time will tell.... I just saw her email and called her on her cell phone to let her know all she has to do is call my cell phone, even if its to "take a little break" ....
It's very bittesweet for her, throughout this illness, she's been able to reconnect with her Dad and of course, now, both of them are grateful for the reconnection.... both of them wish they had done it sooner....

Reminds me that every moment offers a choice ........


Otherwise, I am moving slowly this morning... actually watched a biography of Elizabeth Taylor w/ my 1st cup of coffee.....
Will cook a turkey mostly for DS (courtesey of DH's job) and the dogs... I may have a bite or two for the taste but am not craving it as I was a month ago...
Otherwise DH is going to make an Eggplant "casserole" rather than a lasagna to eliminate the prep work of an eggplant lasagna...

I expect to be back and forth... may even start a Thanksgiving thread for those of us who may be around....

Big hugs to all... time to start a kettle as I've met my 2 cup coffee limit....

Thought of the day :

"Give your best to the world and the best will come back to you"

Question of the day :

"Do you have a 'video/dvd library' ? "



11-25-2004, 08:50 AM
A Happy, Healthy Thanksgiving to all our American Queens and a super great Thursday to all our Canadian Queens!! Anon.

11-25-2004, 09:48 AM
Happy Thanksgiving!

11-25-2004, 10:03 AM

Today I'm having my mother-in-law, and my brother and sister over for the Thanksgiving feast, same as last year. Only last year, I worried about every little detail. This year is so different and I'm telling you, it's because I'm off sugar, that powerful drug!
Yesterday morning I stayed focused and got ALL the cooking done, and then did a 1 hour workout, gave myself a facial, took a bath, and all that by high noon. Then just a bit of cleaning [because I've been able to stay on top of that] and I was able to relax the rest of the day.
And here it is, the day of the event and I'm absolutely serene---and I was up at 5:00 this morning and did 60 min. of Pilates and dumbell exercises. All I have to do is take the stuff out of the fridge and pop it in the oven!

I'm doing a seitan "turkey" this year, Cerise! I think you're lucky that your folks offer you gardenburgers; I've been a vegetarian for 20 years and my family still asks if I want chicken or whatever, like I'm finally going to get over this foolishness!

11-25-2004, 04:01 PM
hi everyone! i wanted to wish you all a very happy thanksgiving. i don't have time right now to catch up on all the posts, but i will tomorrow. just know i am thinking of you with a big smile on my face. take good care, all.

lots of love,

11-25-2004, 05:20 PM
Hello all!

Yes Eydie!!! You are doing it!! very kewl!

I just came to the realization, that I'm not feeling so hot... not awful but not much energy all day even with a nap...
Ah well... could be worse...
Sure beats just thinking I'm lazy!


Hi WSW!! How is life treating you? Glad you stopped by! I've been thinking of you!

Here's a grin for all of us....

I really like Dr. Phil and this helps.....

I am passing this on because it definitely worked for me, and we all
could use more calm in our lives. By following the simple advice I heard
on a Dr. Phil show, I have finally found inner peace. Dr. Phil
proclaimed "The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things
you've started." So I looked around my house to see all the things I
started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning,
I finished off a bottle of Chardonay, a bottle of White Zinfandel, a
bottle of Bailey's, a package of Oreos, the remainder of both Prozac
and Valium prescriptions, the rest of the cheesecake, some saltines and
a box of chocolates. You have no idea how freaking good I feel.

Please pass this on to those you feel are in need of inner peace.


11-25-2004, 07:35 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to our American :queen:s!

Cerise, pack your stuff! You and Ramon can stay with me until 2008. Have you seen ? (No offense intended to any Bush supporters.)

Off to the gym!

11-25-2004, 08:33 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all the American :queen: s and Happy Day to all Canadian :queen: s and any lurker :queen: s who've not revealed their places o' residence.

And welcome, Molly! :wave:

:queen: s, will catch up with responses anon ... so much going on at the palace these days.

I am trying to rest, feelin' kind o' BLUE ... sat and played games online today and tried to sort things out but they won't sort ... just drifting.

Dietwise info be on mine journal in the land far far away.

Again, apologies for lack o' personal responses ... going to bed, methinks.

Eydie, please be sure to tell us how the seitan turkey came out. I've done the tofu one and it was so-so ...

11-25-2004, 09:47 PM
Amarantha, sometimes you just have to let things drift...eventually answers will drift back to you. High tide always returns. :yes: Hope you have a peaceful rest tonight.

11-26-2004, 10:00 AM
Yet another fly-by. Just want you all to know I love you and am thinking of each and every one of you. Hope all my American cousins had a lovely Thanksgiving day -- and fellow Canadians a v. nice Thursday. I was side-tracked by another thread and posted and have to work like a particularly diligent demon today, so -- with apologies -- I'm going to repost my message from the other thread, just in case none of you has heard me going on long enough/enough times :rofl: about the evil refined carb :soap: Still not feeling fully well, but I'm hoping the remedy following will take care of that.

It's been a revelation to me to see how different I can feel when I take the sugar and refined carbs out of my diet. The approaches related to the glycemic index, general carbs, or systemic yeast infection all recommend the same kind of diet and it just works wonders for me. I'm gearing up to do South Beach induction phase again, because I feel like I need that boost. I've been having dates and other high-sugar fruits, plus the occasional bit of whole wheat, and so on and -- although I think I can tolerate some of that kind of thing once I've gotten my system clear -- it's enough to keep me from feeling my best.

One of the most amazing things I've found about this addiction that has made me feel so powerless for much of my life is that, once I remove the unhealthy carbs, I hardly ever have cravings and when I do they're very manageable. I don't feel that driven, relentless compulsion. I feel in control!

I so want to spend this holiday season clear-headed, energetic, cheerful, and optimistic. And I know now how to get there. Thank you so much for starting this thread -- I think I've got myself talked into taking that next step!

Love, love, love! Have a wonderful day, and a fantastic weekend!

11-26-2004, 10:22 AM
Hello all!

Woke up feeling more like myself... we have sunshine today too which always makes a difference...

Yes, Wood Nymph... I finally "see" that the sugar addiction is just like any other addiction...lots of denial, rationalizations, symptons, actions, reactions, etc, etc ....

Does everyone else have as much to do today as I do??

Thought of the day :

"Optimism is an intellectual choice."
--Diana Schneider

"Question of the day :

"Do you take vitamins or mineral supplements?"



11-26-2004, 04:41 PM
Arabella, is there a sugar addict's thread at 3FC? Sounds like somplace I need to visit! [When I'm not here, of course! ;) ]

Only mini-crisis yesterday at Thanksgiving was discovering that the bottom element in my oven stopped working and I had to heat everything in the microwave and toaster oven, but it all worked out beautifully, and I didn't freak out---I mean not at all. No one's more amazed than me!

Ready to move those leftovers out. Last night the succotash was converted into a lovely soup---amazing what a can of tomatoes can do! And this morning the leftover sweet potatoes were pureed and added to pancake batter.

? of the day: yep, I take supplements religiously. Have one of those 7-day holders with 21 slots for taking them 3 times a day!

11-26-2004, 11:36 PM
Hello, ladies.

Isn't it lovely to have one day of work after Thanksgiving and then it's the weekend? Or maybe you lucky dogs didn't have to work, hmmm? I did, but when the stock market closed we bugged outta there. Yesterday went well - we were a jolly bunch. I didn't even go into a food coma! The vegan loaf and gravy I made were good, though completely (and understandably) ignored by the omnivores. You're right, though, Eydie, that I should be thankful to have relatives as accomodating and understanding as I do. I've heard the horror stories of other veggies' families' reactions to their crossing-over. It ain't pretty.

Congratulations for NOT WIGGING OUT, honey. You deserve some sort of medal, for pulling it off and for more importantly not freaking! It's a bloody miracle is what it is and you orchestrated it! You are truly a hostess diva of the highest order.

Kaylets, how's your GF's dad? Any news? Ventilators are a *****. My brother, on his pulmonary rotation for med. school, was telling me stories about how hard it was to get someone off a ventilator once they'd been on one for even just a few days - even the relatively healthy patients. I feel for the guy and for your friend. You're a wonderful support to her, I'm sure.

Oh, Amarantha. We're here for you, sister. I agree with Wildfire - drifting blows but it's normal and healthy and we all must do it. You're such a wonderful, extraordinary lady. Don't forget in your drifting how much we love, admire and depend on you.

Man, Arabella, you're a rock with that simple carb elimination thing. You too, Eydie. Geez. That's one thing I've never tried. So, potatoes are out, too, right? Oof...

Wildfire, I've been to that site many times - thank you for mentioning it. I've had to stop looking at it at work as the whole thing invariably makes me weepy. It's such a healing site for me. Thanks too for the invite - you don't know how close I've come to acting on my impulses to leave from time to time, but I'm here and I'm determined to stay and make my voice heard. Besides, more distressing to me (no offense to and Bush supporters on this fine thread) than the current administration is the partisanship and hatred in this nation - it seems more vile than ever and it bothers me. So, I'll stay on and try to ride out the storm. Hopefully America learns to fit its britches soon before we're humbled in ways we know not of. Anyone who thinks a reckoning won't come someday is a fool. Anyway, I'll get off the :soap: now. Sorry, chickies.

Hey, wsw! Dam', girl, you have got a beautiful smile! :sunny: Don't get too crazy about getting caught up. We know you're around, smiling on us every day. Have a gorgeous weekend, love.

Well, Anagram, did you survive the busy day yesterday? How's the royal family? You're spending today putting up pretty decorations, aren't you?

All right, I'm off to get this party started! Naw, I'm just getting into some jammies - gonna snuggle down and eat mashed potatoes with The Ramon. Love from him, by the way. You should have seen his smile when I told him I had reunited with you guys. Guess he likes you...

11-27-2004, 11:35 AM
Hello all!
Dh and I just watched the first 20-30 minutes of a Chi Kung ( Gong) dvd by Dr Lam and dh is even more convinced that real classes are what he needs to make sure he is standing correctly, etc...
It will be interesting to see his reaction when he has a class... wonder what he think then...

Cerise! I've done both and certainly having Friday off is more fun....
I only left the house long enough to grab 2 things at the grocery store..

Thanks for asking about my friend... I just recvd an email that her dad passed away last night. She was a wonderful daughter to the very end.
Even if she disagreed w/ how something was being done, she would never make a fuss, just find a way to compromise that let everyone win....
I could go on and on but suffice to say, I am very proud that she contacted me this morning and actually used the words "My friend" ....

DH is posting auctions on Ebay this am...
I am helping a some by funneling things to him and then "stacking" them ...

Its always a wonder what we find that we had forgotten about...

Morning seems to have gotten away from me...

I'll look in later...

Kettle is on!

11-27-2004, 04:26 PM
What sort of beginning, you ask? Well, I'm sitting here (you've heard this many times) with you and a mug of lovely decaf stewing in my french-press, and just got the urge to pop in The Nutcracker - one of my favorite Christmas music CDs. And it hit me.

It's on, baby!!!!

Bring it, BRING IT, BR-I-I-I-I-I-NG I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-T!!!!!! :cb: :cb: :cb: :hat: :cloud9:

I just got into the holiday mood.

I LOVE Christmas!!! I'm one of those schlemiels who just gets off on the commercial monster the holiday season has become, I admit. Well, OK, I'm not crazy about some of it, the XMas commercials on TV and stuff, but from Thanksgiving on slap me with holly and call me Santa! Hey, I don't participate in Black Friday - hate it, but when I talk to someone and they start in on the "I just HATE the commercialism and the plastic reindeer..." my eyes glaze over and I start thinking about mulled wine, music, midnight mass, The Messiah, wrapping presents, etc. In my defense, I try to give gifts I've made, I wrap presents with recycled paper and the fabric/wire ribbon my family saves and uses from year to year, and I participate as little as possible in the whole shopping thing. Especially since I live smack-dab in the middle of Seattle's biggest shopping district. The decorations here in downtown are stunning , ladies, but the people...yikes. OK, anyway, yearly rant over. I'll try not to be too annoying until January.

So, today (oooh, the Waltz of the Flowers just came on... :dizzy: ) I'm going to try to clean the sh*t out this house so Ramon and I can get started thinking about decorating. YES!!! And now there's soy eggnog... :coffee:

Kaylets, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's dad's death. You are indeed a good, good friend. Though I'm sure you feel sorrow for your friend, I hope you take some pleasure in how supportive a person you are and how much she loves and needs you. Just telling a daughter that they were exactly what their dying parent needed all those years must be a healing, healing thing to say, and I laud you for putting yourself out there for her.

It's so cool that your husband is going to try Chi Thingy! I think a real class is just the thing for him. You know, I've been trying to get my parents and Ramon's parents to try Tai Chi or something, though a long life of vilifying "Eastern Religion" for both sets of parents has put up a barrier for them about all things like yoga, tai chi, acupuncture, even martial arts. However. Mom and Dad found out that they now get regular massages with their insurance. They both visited this wonderful Christian (the magic word) massage therapist and are now hooked. HOOKED, I tell you!!! I caught them talking comfortably about the fact that they also get acupuncture with their policies and that Dad's doctor is telling him that it might give some relief from his arthritis. :yikes: Progress, people, progress. I'm so proud of my parents' abiliby to change their minds...

All right - off to tackle Mt. Filing, Mt. Dishes and Mt. Laundry.

Love to all - don't hate me because I have eggnog running in my veins for the time being. :lol:

11-27-2004, 04:47 PM
Cerise, you do make me chuckle... I do agree, that it makes everything very "normal " when our insurance policies "approve" of something when when they'll cover it... yes, a sure marker of progress....

I had no idea how lovely Seattle looked till we saw a tiny snippet of news coverage on the Needle being lit up.... And I said to my DH, "Ohhhhh, do you think our two Pacific NW queens forgot to share this w/ the rest of us? Do you think they don't realize that most of us aren't aware of such a lovely tradition?"....

and I know maybe, its just me but I wonder.....

And yes, if you're up to it, so am I... this can be a challenge if you like....
How much can we get done btwn now and tomorrow evening?? I'm two loads of laundry ahead of you but you've got at least 20yrs on me....

Anyone else motivated to get things done?? Anything? You make the rules...
I need motivation...

Are you ready?

Set .....



11-27-2004, 06:49 PM
I've been dragged unwillingly into your start on the holidays. My American hubby gets all depressed this time of year because he's missing out on a four-day weekend and a turkey feast. So I am cooking turkey as I type and we have already polished off a bottle of South African Chardonnay...boy does it have a kick! Of course, we had to have appetizers as well, so there is pate, roasted red pepper dip, assorted crackers, pumpkin-cranberry baguette, and the BEST cheese's goat cheese with cinnamon and covered in cranberries...yummy! So all sense as far as eating is concerned is put aside for today. If it makes DH happy, so be it.

Mind you, we may be sitting down to dinner at 9pm....

11-27-2004, 06:59 PM
Hi Wildfire!

Oh my, Pumpkin cranberry baguette... please share...

sounds delish....

actually, it all does....

Arent you a sweetie to make sure he has all the "traditional" dishes....

:) !

11-28-2004, 10:20 AM
Hello all!

Torrential rains most of the night -- I didnt realize till I took one of the dogs out at 4 am and listened to the rain for about an hour... even went back to sleep for awhile as it certainly didnt motivate me!! :) !

Seems like there is such a thin line to this holiday cheer and/not...
Recvd an email from a gf who has been struggling w/ a marriage reconciliation ... they tried for awhile but have called it quits again...
Makes you realized how fragile so much of it is....

.... borrowed the entire first season of OZ from the library yesterday-- got thru less than one episode ... it is too dark and mean for me... we then watched Jack Nicholson in " Schmidt"... didnt even bother watching the ending... I got tired and cold and felt cheated on that one too....
Hopefully, the Best of the Marx Brothers will bring a few grins...the 4th one is called " Rabbit Proof Fence".... I expect we'll bring back the two today since the library is so close by....

Big oil spill very very close to us... am afraid the Heinz Wildlife Refuge ( yes, you're right, her first husband ) is full of very heavy crude oil....

I am going to set the clock for 15 minutes of Ebay auction posting and drink tea too....

Wish I was more cheery this am...

11-28-2004, 10:26 AM
Greetings, Royal Personages!
I've gotten through two days of the SB induction and all goes well. One thing that really struck me about this last time was that cravings all but disappeared, which made it pretty darn easy (why did I go off plan, then? It was a planned Thanksgiving extravaganza -- then I just never got back on the wagon :mad: ). I always thought the craving was all psychological, when -- as it turned out -- it seems to be mostly physiological, a response to the type of foods that I eat. Continues to blow me away. I'm still feeling less than 100% -- maybe 60% or so, but at least I'm doing this one thing.

Cerise, if a rock I be, 'tis an exceptionally soft one. :lol: Don't be TOO impressed -- potatoes are only off-limits for the first two weeks. The theory (if I recall correctly) is that our body chemistry is out of whack, causing an insulin reaction to even moderate amounts of even healthy, complex carbs. Two weeks of low glycemic index eating is supposed to right the balance so that we can have some carbs again in good health. And if ever one goes off the deep end, one can always return to the induction phase again. It's not actually that difficult, once you've got your head around the concept. I was motivated to get going with it again because I know how much better I feel on it and I thought "Do I want to feel semi-crummy all through the holidays AND come out of it 10 pounds or so heavier?"And when I read the article, I knew what I had to do. :yes:

I LOVE Christmas, too! I get a bit grossed out by the over-the-top commercialism, but I get that "magic" feeling trying to think of something special for my nearest and dearest. Love the carols, love the chance to be effusive and --- spread the luv!!!

SeeCat, welcome, welcome! :) You surely seem like our kind of gal! Love your name (Molly) too. Funny, my response to the "what would you do if time weren't an issue" question was that I'd like to learn to speak French and play the violin. Hmm... s'pose it could be fiddle when one was in the mood, huh. And I'd also like to learn to do stained glass, I think...

Eydie, the thread was the one about the Skinny Daily Post ( There is a Sugar Busters thread, too, though I think and a bunch of them on the South Beach diet. And then there's WW Core, which is pretty much the same thing too. As soon as I decided to start the SB induction phase yesterday I started to get excited, knowing I'd be feeling good. It was funny, I listed all the reasons I wanted to do it and didn't even realize until later that I hadn't listed the significant factor of easier weight loss :rolleyes: Then, when I told DH that I was going to do it, he tried to dissuade me (Aren't you setting yourself up to fail? Why not wait until after Christmas?). He took the wind out of my sails a bit, but I'm determined, and shall persevere! Avanti!

Punkin, did you have moon ceremonies Friday night? We watched a movie and by the time it was over the moon was way high up. This morning, I could tell there was a moon setting/sun rising thing happening, but just couldn't get myself dressed and go out there to see it. The moon should be pretty good tonight and it's very clear. Maybe I'll head out to see it rise... Time-lapse: it's actually Sunday now and I did make the effort, found out what time moon-rise was, and got out to see it last night.

Wildfire, YAY!!! for double-Thanksgivings! I'm all for more celebration. Your meal sounds fantastic! Holy smokes -- your Irishman story is wonderful -- what a joy to be able to revel (mostly) innocently (of course a little flirtation is good for one's soul and thus for one's marriage as well ;) )

How's your recovery going -- are you completely better now (I hope!). Hows BFH (boss from ... ) and DD?

wsw, so happy to see you checking in. Makes me realize the value of checking in, even if that's all we do. I so often don't post, thinking that I don't have it in me to do a long message. I loved your big smile, here's one back :D I'm always so impressed by your ability to work at feeling well -- you are definitely an inspiration to me.

Kaylets, did your DH have a chance to check out the qi qong tapes I mentioned? Really, they were so easy to follow and explained how to stand and so on quite nicely. I felt a huge difference immediately. If he can't find a class, they would be the next-best thing I think.

Ceara, I think it's so cool that we were born within a month or so of each other! Are you a Gemini?

Anagram, don't be discouraged by not losing quickly -- you've maintained a terrific loss and that's what it takes -- the path is not straight down, but has rest areas built in. :yes: You're so close to Onederland, too. Do you think there might be some kind of psychological barrier? In any case, between steroids and stress, it's a marvel that you've been able to lose and maintain that loss :cheers:

Amarantha, so happy to see the Pirate Lass sail into the palace! Hope that blue mood floats away! Kudos on trying to sort things out, too! It's so hard to even make the effort sometimes, but sometimes that's what it takes. I usually have to give myself a fairly good boot in the *** before I make the effort myself :rolleyes:

Well, my Dovies, I really need to go and do. Love you much, mentioned or not! Have a wonderful day!

11-28-2004, 10:30 AM
Thanks WoodNymph--
Our library doesnt have the tapes you told me about... and my best guess is that even if they did....DH feels he needs a real class to "know" he understands what the tapes are telling him.... he needs that feedback I guess...

11-28-2004, 11:54 AM
Kaylets, I understand that the classes might be better, but if there's no class available, the tapes would be well worth buying. I found them really effective for destressing, centering, stablizing mood. Your library sounds like it's a good resource for tapes in general, though!

11-28-2004, 02:13 PM
The Ramon snapped awake at 8:40 and began dressing for work, and I, instead of rolling over and sleeping until 11, got up with him and toasted his (whole-wheat!) Eggos. Got the Nutcracker fired up, started myself some coffee and now he's gone, and I feel OK. I know most of you don't sleep in very late on the weekend, but I've gotten in that habit (one of the last college-y vices that I've held on to). It helped to remind myself that we went to bed at 11:30 and I had indeed gotten 9 hours of sleep.

Ramon is in such a dither - I wish you could hear him. We're actually getting a real tree this year! The last 6 years we've been married we've had this fake one that we liked OK - I admit that I had put the kibosh on real trees being the, well, tree-hugger that I am. But this year I caved and he's all a-twitter. Well, as twittery as my dear one can get. He's a calm man of few words, you see. Anyway, now it's "when do you think we should get one?" and "I can't wait - it's the smell I love so much" and "can you measure out the space today while I'm gone?" Funny man. I'm going to grit my teeth and try not to monitor the slow death of the tree and just enjoy having it - Ramon's enthusiasm IS infectious. It's so seldom that we seem to be able to delight our loved ones to such a degree that I'm glad I gave in. :rolleyes:

Arabella, your and Eydie's stories about sugar and carb cravings are inspiring. I always stick my nose in the air and say: "I can't cut carbs . I'm a VEGETARIAN." Stop laughing, Eydie. Even so, I still catch myself eating foods that I have no business putting in my mouth - Krispy Kremes someone brought to work (DAMN them!! :lol: ), a pastry at the coffee shop, and the big ones. My two favorite, FAVORITE foods: rice and noodles of any kind. It's so hard not to put an extra helping on my plate when I'm already plenty full and I know that the extra will put me into discomfort until the next morning. Poopey.

Kaylets, I can see both sides as far as the video/class dilemma. I think I'd use a video to start out - just for the benefits of getting myself moving and into the "feel" of whichever discipline I'd chosen, but I'd never, never get serious about it without taking classes, but then I'm a Gemini and need feedback. A lot of feedback. I have some DVDs that I bought (but sadly never actually exercised to) - two are the belly-dancing DVDs that Eydie recommended and a really cool-looking one on African healing dance. Time to dust them off and give them a try. Oh, and I have an OLD yoga video that went WAY too fast for me...

Speaking of dance, yesterday I signed up and paid for (important) a beginner's salsa dance class, starting in January. Gulp. :^: Hey, it's the first time I'll actually have a good reason to buy those awesome Mary Jane-looking dance shoes that I've always coveted! :moo: This is me doing the salsa. You can't see the shoes.

Kaylets, time for you to open up a phone-support line. This is the second friend you've mentioned this week with a crippling, heartbreaking story. I'm so sorry for your poor friend. It almost feels like trying a reconciliation and it not working out would be more painful than the initial separation...who knows. The holiday cheer must be rather hollow for her. Do they have kids? I'm glad that you're there for her. No one better, in my opinion. :grouphug:

Wow, Wildfire - what a spread! You're SO sweet to do all that for your languishing husband - kind of a parallel between me and Ramon and the damned tree, don't you think? :D

wsw, thinking about you, honey, and you too, Amarantha. :love: You have my number - give me a call if you ever need to be blasted with chatter. Fair warning. Naw, I'll give you a chance to talk too. Maybe. Ask Punkin. We phoned for a while last year and she got a word or two in edgewise. My, I do love a woman who can interrupt me. That's the only way I remember to shut up sometimes... :lol:

Speaking of Punkin - hel-LOOOOO. My darling...check in this week and keep us from clucking too much with concern. Rich coming from me, the prodigal daughter, but DO IT ANYWAY!!! :p

All right, back to cleaning. Kaylets, I scaled Mt. Laundry and Mt. Dishes yesterday - today I'm cleaning the bathroom and then see what happens. Thanks for the inspiration.

Love out, pooties.

11-28-2004, 02:43 PM
Posted this in me journal this a.m., sorry about double posting and brevity and no responses and all that ... have to go to store and get back soon:

Athletea's Christmas Challenge In A Nutshell:

Goal ~ 148 by December 26
Diet Plan ~ Eat in the 1400-1600 range
Exercise Plan ~ Exercise as much as possible
GWLB (Good Weight Loss Behavior) Plan ~ Try different things, drink water, have fun
Caveat ~ The management reserves the right to have a CCS (Controlled Calorie Splurge) now and then that could place DFA (Diet Faerie Athletea) in the position of having to go above and beyond the upper calorie range listed in this plan. When that happens, CFA has agreed in writing that she will NOT say: 'Oh, I've broken this DIET, so I guess I'll just have to eat a house and gain back all my weight! Oh, woe is me ... this diet doesn't work!!! Oh, woe, oh woe, oh woe, poor me!!!
Journal ~ CFA agrees to report her progress each day in these pages.

The Official Christmas Challenge Anthem: Diets work if ya work 'em, yes they do! Diets work if ya work 'em, yes they do! ... etc.

That about covers it! This is Christmas Diet Day 1! This is fun! (Really, it's fun, honest, it's ...)

Later, gators ...

11-28-2004, 03:12 PM
You're killing me, honey. I'm dying here. :lol:

By the way, ladies, if you want a wordy and disconnected look into my tortured psyche (or, if you want to read about some issues I've been dealing with), I've started up the journal again to unload. It's not pretty, my dears, so don't go unless you're REALLY curious.

You'll meet my mental personal-trainer-from-****. :devil:

11-28-2004, 05:30 PM
Well we feasted on appetizers and wine and stuck the turkey in the fridge to heat up today. We decided we really didn't have room for a big meal after noshing for a couple of hours. So I didn't cook any of the veggies last night. They're better freshly prepared. And it was probably a good thing I wasn't cooking or cutting anything after the second bottle of wine. ;)

We went today to look at a few houses and came back completely deflated. One, a hundred-year old farmhouse (no longer a farm) needed work, but had all the original details...those crystal door knobs, the original wide baseboards and trim, cove moldings, fireplace...made my heart skip a beat in the ad but when we drove out to see it, it was smack dab in the middle of two highways with an RV sales lot in front. Yeah, no thanks. My dreams of refinishing the place and getting a dog went *POOF*. The next we'd planned to visit an open house for a "Manhattan" style town...very elegant looking...but there wasn't a soul for the open agent, no answer at the door, nada. So then we pulled into a sales office for new construction and had a tour of a new townhome....not for us...everything crammed in there, tiny kitchen, tiny bedrooms...nope. Guess it's time to call the agent and tell them to go ahead and find us something, because I'm going to get too discouraged seeing things we don't like. I have to get out of this apartment or I'm going to go completely insane. (And I've not far to go!)

Kaylets, the pumpkin-cranberry baguette is from a bakery here...chopped cranberries inside a multi-grain bread, and the outside is covered in roasted pumpkin seeds. It is delicious!

Arabella, congrats on surviving the first few days of SB! You're a stronger woman than I! Yes, thankfully everything seems to be back in place after the accident. Still have some hip pain, but I'm hoping that using the hip machines at the gym will strengthen them and make the pain go away.

Cerise, there is something magical and child-like about bringing home a live Christmas tree. Moreso than unpacking one from a cardboard box. I go through this here, too...I always had a real tree growing up, and until I moved here seven years ago. Since then, DH bought one of those artificial trees that LOOK like a real tree (it really does) because he has a hard time spending on average $60 for a tree that we watch die and then throw out, as opposed to his finding this gorgeous artificial one that he bought on a half price sale for $150 that we can use for another ten years. Last year we didn't have a tree at all until Christmas Eve, and then it was a 2 ft pre-lit one that I stuck on a table and called it done. Perhaps I'll enjoy your real tree vicariously through you and Ramon.

Time to peel veggies and heat up turkey...

11-28-2004, 05:53 PM
The palace is extraordinarily busy for a weekend----love that! :)

So Cerise, where can we find your journal? I'm feeling curious and would like to take a stroll down the dimly lit labyrinth of your pyche. I've been looking thru some of my old journals lately and trust me, nothing shocks me. Oooh, the shameful stories I found about my sugar addiction!

Amarantha, I have to visit you in the faerie realm after this. Thanks for posting your Yule goals. As usual you inspire me to set some goals for myself! Any of the other queens care to do the same?

Speaking of challenges---I accept your challenge, Kaylets. I simply want to stay ahead of all the household chores this season. I vow to not let things get to the state where I'm overwhelmed and paralyzed--so 15 minutes at a time and I'll finish what I start!

Thanks for your wise words, Arabella. Yes, it's much better to go gracefully thru the holidays rather than in a sugar/carb coma, or miserable from overeating. Let's do it! No sugar plum is worth it!

Wildfire, the pumpkin cranberry baguette sounds great---I may try to make something like it. What a sweetie you are to prepare the feast for DH!

How are you, Anagram? :coffee:

Garry and I went to my workplace today to make wreathes for the Victorian Xmas hoo-hah coming up. I'm enjoying Christmas so far this year. I love all the trappings of Christmas; I really do, the only place where it gets ikk-y for me is when I start thinking that the few gifts I buy are inadequate, and I start second-guessing all that stuff. Will try not to do that this year. Otherwise, I'm having a blast!

Got my first Christmas card yesterday. On the front Mrs. Claus is yelling up to Santa as the sleigh's taking flight, "Don't forget to pick up some tampons for me!" Open it up and it says 'It's that time again'! Okay, not vert tasteful, but funny!

Punkin, how's things with you? :D

I have to get in some sort of workout before the day's done. That's going to be part of my Xmas challenge---to make sure I dod something every day, even if it's just a few minutes.

11-28-2004, 06:09 PM
Hello all!

Yes, that is a very funny card....

Cerise-- Actually, my newly seperated friend seems almost relieved if you know what I mean... that she now knows for sure she really did give it her all....

Did get somethings done while learning a piece of softward I had never used b/4.... the trick is that my system will only let have a very few things open as my system has limited memory...
After a few lockouts and " closing due to illegal transaction" I caught on...

We too had left overs from yesteday albeit w/ fresh whole wheat bread that DH made... He's baking a round loaf nowadays on a pizza stone...

We are heading out to the bowling alley shortly....

need to get showered and etc...

take care all!

11-28-2004, 07:59 PM
HELLOOOOOO, PALACE! Coming down to earth after a GREAT 4 day weekend. Won't be looking at a scale any time soon. Best I can say is that I managed a good walk everyday. The rest of my "healthy" behavior is best not discussed.

The palace is very busy and that is so delightful. I'll try to reread the quickly scanned posts and comment later. Just wanted to checkin and see how you're all doing but want to reread so I don't miss a word!


11-28-2004, 08:11 PM
Kaylets, I PMd you but got message you're "too full" right now. Will try again in a day or two.

11-28-2004, 08:28 PM
OMG! Travel for a week end and the palace goes it!
Had fun at the shows and that is that. The littlest heathen is learning...but it is an embarrassing process sometimes. On the first day we did the down and back, she self stacked and then proceeded to bark at me...chew me out. The all breed judge says "Spunky, isn't she?" "Really?" I replied. Then she proceeded to try and trip me on the last go round.......gotta love her!
Cerise...I love the Nutcracker. Not quite to the blasting the house out yet...kudos Wildfire for your indulgences for DH....I just spent the week-end with a bunch of turkey happy Americans at the shows...they forget we do it so early :lol:
I think I'm a cancer...and some days that is very true....right on the cusp? Gemini is ahead of me....and yup I was only old for a is fun that we are so close Arabella!
Anyway...I'm gonna hit the hay foot hurts and I'm just :tired:. Might channel hop for a bit..those guys have Nuthin' on me! By the bye...the moon is gorgeous was emerging from a cloud bank earlier...and just as orange as could be...spectacular!
:wave: to all! And to all a good night!


11-29-2004, 09:34 AM
Hello all!

Here we go Monday, Here we go!
Sorry if I'm too loud..

I am using another vacation day.... playing beat the clock w/ the garbage man as he won hands down Thursday morning... was here hours early... I had nothing out so today there is double....

Managed to nearly clear off the dining room table ( AKA dumping area--- or as the Flylady would say HOTSPOT)

Am looking forward to tonight's weighin as last Monday night, although the bus did take a detour, traffic was so jammed, I didnt get near my WW's meeting till 5 minutes after it ended...
This morning's nealy naked weigh in was very motivating...hoping the scale doesnt climb too high by this evening....

ok my friends... I think I need to take another trip to the curb


Thought of the day :

"Loving yourself means not letting others diminish you..."

Question of the day :

"When is the last time you went fishing?"


Anagram-- I cleared a bunch of messages out-- sorry, should be ok now.

11-29-2004, 01:59 PM
Back after a long weekend. I was one of the lucky who did not have to work on Friday. I survived tofurkey day with a minimal ammount of excess. Now I am sitting staring at my desk adn wishing I were elsewhere. O well. At least they pay me.

I am a big fan of the cheesy commerical excess Christmas thing also. Not that I personally indulge much, but I just like the festivness of it all. Especially when it is snowing.

Question of the Day: a long, long time ago. I last went regular fishing when I was about 12. I went fishing for crawdad last when I was about 20.

I guess I should get back to work. I do policy stuff and it is both hectic and rather dismal right now.


11-29-2004, 02:25 PM
Hi Seecat! How are you doing today??

Ok, you've piqued my interest.... what kind of polcy stuff??

Wouldnt be auto insurance by an chance would it??

How's the rest of your day going??

Joke is on me again today.... Trash was just picked up at 1 pm... the latest I've seen it in a long, long time.... I could've probably gotten the whole house out to the curb if I hadn't stopped becuase I was sure he was just around the corner....

Ah well....

must be a lesson in that too...


11-29-2004, 06:31 PM
Nope, no insurance policy stuff. I actually do public policy work, generally affordable housing stuff, but some consumer rights/civil rights thrown in. It is great work, but an uphill battle much of the time. I write a lot of reports.

I know the feeling with the garbage truck. It seems like every week I forget to put out my recycling and think that it is too late, but invariably the truck does not come till well after I thought it would.

11-29-2004, 08:17 PM
Oh my Lordy it's cold here in Seattle! It got down to 35 degrees here this morning! :coffee2: That's me sitting in my coffee this morning to keep warm...

SeeCat, my festivity sister this Yuletide, I wish you could see downtown Seattle at this time of year! As Kaylets said, they light up a Christmas tree on top of the space needle, but they also have a 6-story Christmas star they light up at the Bon, a huge gingerbread house at Nordstrom, etc. The shopping district looks like a fairy land. Since I walk through the district every day on my way to work (I live about 4 blocks from downtown proper) I get to experience it firsthand.

Kaylets, Kaylets, I think we did the same things this weekend! I did the laundry (5 loads, thank you very much), the pile of dishes (no dishwasher...thank you VERY much) and CLEARED OFF OUR DESK!!! :cheer: The desk is a nightmare of a hotspot and I cleared off the piles of bills, filed them away, and presto! It's bare as a...I dunno. Bare as Vin Diesel's sexy, sexy head. Anyway, congrats on all the good work you did!

Sorry, ladies. I'm ovulating right now and feel very...tomcattish. And I have an unholy obsession with Señor Diesel. Oof. :faint:

QOD: I fished when I was little but couldn't stand it. One of the reasons I became a vegetarian. I'm convinced that fish have feelings.

Ceara, you and I saw the same moon/cloud bank, I think! Gawd, wasn't it scrumptious? All spooky and orange and close-looking, you know? I smiled at the thought of your littlest naughty heathen trying to learn the ropes. I pictured you bending down over her and using a sweet scoldy voice like my Mom uses with her cats. :)

Anagram, you WALKED every day? EVERY day? What'choo cryin' for, girl? I'd be up-to-here proud of myself for doing that...never mind the eating. I'm just glad you had a good time, darling. :smug:

Eydie, Eydie, Eydie - so many things to say to you...1. I'm journalling at 3FC under the name of Cerise, but I think I'll find a place to blog online, too, because I had trouble finding my OWN entry after a few hours. 2. Household upkeep: I'm in! Ramon and I had a talk over our noodles last night and agreed that spending 1/2 hour a day min. just on the home (dishes, money, laundry, etc.) is something we could handle, and it would certainly be more than we're doing now. It'll give us a more peaceful haven to come home to... 3. Christmas HOO-HAH!!! :cb:

Wildfire, sorry about the house disappointment. Sucky. Sucky. I can't think of anything more disappointing than finding a bloody RV lot in front of your dear prospective home...chin up, darling. :^:

Punkiny-Poos, thinking of youuuu... :p

More on my Mental Personal-Trainer-From-****. She's the person in my head for whom no effort's ever enough. In fitness and every other aspect of my life! If I get on the treadmill for 20 min., she's in my ear saying, "that's know you'll eventually have to get that time up to 50 minutes, though, right?" If I make a few calls about joining a local band, the symphony chorale, whatever, she's in there going "what about studio recording work? How are you going to get into THAT?" Today I ate a wonderful sandwich - leftover tofu loaf, tomatoes, sprouts on dark rye - satisfying, tasty as ****, and healthy! There she was, saying "OK, but you shouldn't have used mayo." EVERY DAMNED THING I DO, there she is, nagging, shaking her finger...because of her I've spent my entire sentient life thinking I'm a lazy, undisciplined person who can't accomplish anything. No wonder I'm fat and seeing a therapist for being a total failure. Anyway, Maria (wonderful, merciless therapist that she is) is doing her best with me to root out all of that conditional, negative, beat-myself-over-the-head-with-a-stick mentality. It's amazing what ideas have opened up as a result of the mammoth struggle between her, my wiser, kinder self, and my inner Personal Trainer. I'll keep you all posted, lucky girls.

Love, Cerise

P.S. What IS a sugar plum, anyway?

11-29-2004, 11:11 PM

Did someone say Vin Diesel? :T Yummy, yummy, yummy! THAT is my idea of a sugar plum!

Of course I'm still experiencing lingering lust having watched The Chronicles of Riddick this weekend. "I answer to NO man." Yeah, me too, Vinny baby!! (except if the Vin Man himself called...then I'd answer! :lol: )

:wave: everyone...just drifting by on the way to bed... :yawn:

11-30-2004, 12:33 AM
Ohmygod, his mouth, Wildfire, his MOUTH. Pantpantpantpant...

Gotta go.

11-30-2004, 07:43 AM
Hello all!

Hello all!

Was pleased w/ last night's weighin but realize that the past 2 mos really were no different than a plateau-- except I went up and down .5 to almost a 3lb gain and now am just below where I was ... .4 less than my current sig line.....

Am feeling like as much as I've learned I really havent learned much at all....


Yes, I know, it could be lots worse....
Just need to have my 15 minutes and get over myself...


Thought of the day :

"None of us suddenly becomes something overnight. The preparations have been
in the making for a lifetime."
---Gail Godwin

Question of the day :
"How long will will wait "on hold" on the telephone?"


I really am in a "Must Kick Something or Cry " mode this am.....

I'll be fine by time you read this but right this minute could just shriek....


Guess that helped...

I think doing something physical would help too...

Oh and yes, going back to work today...
Short week, yes, but ....

Ok, enough!
Take care!


11-30-2004, 11:45 AM
As long as the thing you kick is reasonably soft so as not to hurt your feet, and is not likely to get damaged, I think it will all be ok.

Question of the day: I cannot stay on hold for very long. There is one orginaztion that I work with who puts me on hold all of the time and I take particular satisfaction in hanging up on them on a regular basis. You should try it some time. It feels very satisfying.

The temperature was in the lower teens when I left the house this morning. Blah. We have a small dusting of snow, so it does not even feel winter wonderland out, just cold. Maybe I should do some Christmas shopping to get into the Christmas mood.

So, I am currently planning a conference at work. The only problem is that the folks who as supposed to be working on it from other orginazations are just really not getting anything done. Yikes.

Well, I suppose I must get back to work.

11-30-2004, 08:18 PM
Hello all!

I am feeling more cheerful...
My desk is still needing a dumptruck but what are you going to do??

Just happening by to say hello...

And I did it.... got thru a very horrid mood w/o eating my way thru it...


Have nothing else to comment .... do not wish to repeat the experience yet I do not want to be eating thru my moods anymore either....


so... full moon is almost finished.....

See everyone in the morning...

11-30-2004, 09:53 PM
Congrats, Kaylets, on getting out of the funk. Hope that's it for a while for you. Maybe 'twas the moon - I always hate when the full moon starts to wane. Been fighting the 'hissies' a lot today too but didn't feel I could give in to them as it's DHs birthday and I wanted it to be good for him.

Have decided I'll never be able to catch up on responses to weekend posts so am going to give me a fresh slate. I'm still frantically chasing after the wagon. And my dining room table is once again covered with papers I had placed strategically elsewhere (hidden away) over the holiday weekend. Am feeling hopelessly swamped again though am half done holiday shopping, have some outside decorating done, etc. I thinkI just need one really good day to feel on top of things again. Now I need a dumptruck for the files project in the basement that was going so well for a while until it came to a screeching halt w/so much pulled out and undone.

Well, tomorrow's another day and a brand new month just waiting for me to enjoy it. I need very much to concentrate on enjoying the moment(s) as I really have a lot in my life to enjoy - like enjoying that I have friends I want to get together with instead of stressing about how I'll fit it all in.

Sleep tight, chickies.

12-01-2004, 06:32 AM
Hello all!

Rain is fierce this morning. Even can feel the chill in the house.

Can't believe its Wednesday already. Sometimes that expression" Life is what happens when you're making other plans" really makes sense....

So..need to leave early to deal w/ rain, traffic, etc...

Will try to look in later but will only be able to lurk.....

As I was looking for a Thought for the day, I found a longer essay that I thought was worth sharing... hope you like it too....

Today's Empowering Question

"What must I do to increase my determination and improve?"

It's now official.

Lance Armstrong has won the Tour de France for a record
tying fifth time.

The most difficult, grueling sporting event in the world.

He survived 2,100 miles over two mountain ranges in 20
days, the stomach flu, dehydration, crashes & near crashes
as well as the weather to do the unthinkable. Three weeks
and over 83 hours of pushing himself past exhaustion. I
can't even imagine what that must take physically and
mentally to run that race.

To most people, it's just two words, "bike race," that
don't mean too much.

But in life you've got to grab inspiration wherever you can.

To me, his record setting performance is just one more
push to make this lifetime a masterpiece. One more
confirmation that with determination, anything can be
achieved. Absolutely anything.

Here's a guy who in 1996 was diagnosed with an advanced
form of testicular cancer that had spread to his abdomen,
lungs and brain.

Because of its spread, he was given only a 50-50 chance of

But he had aggressive surgery and chemo treatments that
alone would've killed the average person, and was
pronounced cancer free in 1997. Then began the arduous
road back to health.

A few months ago, I was watching a 1997 video of him
training after his surgery. He had no hair and you could
see the U-shaped scar on top of his head where they went in
to remove part of the cancer. He said training was
difficult... he would get wiped out after only an hour and
a half on the bike.

An hour and a half, and he got wiped out!

Most people are ready to quit after 2 minutes.

After the treatment and surgery, he was no different than
anyone else... actually much worse off physically than
practically anyone alive.

But he had Lance Armstrong's mind...

...the mind that made him the best cyclist in the world.

You see, that is what separates the winners from the
losers in life.

Everyone who knows of Lance knows of him as a winner, but
in his first Tours he didn't do so well.

Here's how he did in his previous Tour races:

'93 - Did not finish
'94 - Did not finish
'95 - 36th
'96 - Did not finish
'97 - Did not enter
'98 - Did not enter
'99 - 1st
'00 - 1st
'01 - 1st
'02 - 1st
'03 - 1st

He didn't even finish 3 times. See? We're talking about
a grueling race!

But success in life is about how many times you pick
yourself up, not how many times you fail.

Since I was "this" close to using another quote today,
I'll include it. Here it is: "A winner must first know
what losing's like." Billionaire publisher Malcolm Forbes
said that. So he knew something about winning, I'd say.

You see, so many people I work with are just so scared of
losing that they just won't get involved in life and risk
falling down... of looking foolish... of losing what little
they have.

But you must.

The good stuff is on the other side of failure. You just
can't get there without it.

It hurts, sure it does.

Those months I spent in the van hurt worse than I can go
into right now. And lots of risk went into getting out and
creating an actual life. And without failure there is no


I've been reading the press coverage of this year's Tour
extensively, and I read a quote of one of Lance's fans
saying that this is the most excited she's ever been in her

And I thought about how sad that is.

Someone else's achievement, someone they've never met -
and it's the most thrilling event in their life.

Look, I don't care if it's the World Cup, the Super Bowl
or little green men landing on Earth, the most thrilling
moment in your life should be from something YOU achieve.

And there is inspiration all around every day. You just
have to open your eyes. It's constant and never ending.

Tell yourself that you are prepared to look stupid a dozen
times today. And when you accomplish the first one, find
out what you can learn from it. After your twelfth stupid
action, you should have learned twelve new lessons that
hopefully made you smarter and better prepared for tomorrow.

Are you getting this?

That's how you use failure... to learn.

Lance did.

He failed and failed and failed.

But because he used his failure to learn...

...he got smarter and smarter and smarter.

Without the failure, he wouldn't be so dominant today.

Without the cancer, he may not have gotten so mentally
strong so as to be so unbeatable.

Unless this is an unconscious habit of yours already, do

Every single time you mess something up, miss a deadline,
miss a sale, lose a race or a game, get angry when you
shouldn't or any other kind of screw up, write it down and
ask yourself today's empowering question.

You will have answers.

Act on those answers, and you'll grow so fast, learn so
much and improve your life skill so completely that you'll
look back on your life a year from now and shake your head
in amazement.

And don't mourn all the years you didn't do this.

Just get excited. Let go of the failures. Use them to
learn and let them go.

By Mike Bresica--"Today Is Your Day To Win"


12-01-2004, 10:13 AM
Good morning, all you best and most excellent of :queen:s! :wave:
I'm chiming in as another of the realm that had one of those days yesterday -- felt frustrated, discombobulated, stressed, worried, cranky. And I'm sure tears were lurking beneath all that. There's a difficult family situation playing out here (feel free to skip the following!): one of my brothers bought a house from one of my sisters by giving her a down payment and moving in to fix it up, with the understanding that he'd pay the mortgage. He (always on the edge or completely broke) had a sum of money from a divorce settlement. As he started working on it, there were $urprises and with one thing and another my brother's money was gone, he's missing mortgage payments, etc. My son, who's supposed to be moving into the house with him loaned him $1000. Now, the house still needs work, there's no heat, no money to do anything. I know it's not for me to work these things out, but I'm having difficulty not worrying about it.

I'm actually taking 3 days off starting today. Working on getting my house cleaned up -- that always makes me feel hugely better.

Anyway, sounds like there was a general malaise yesterday. Here's to making today a better one! Love to all!

12-01-2004, 10:47 AM
Oh, I almost forgot -- had carb cravings yesterday. Never struggling, but knowing that if I wasn't on the sugar wagon I would have been having myself a carb-fest. It's funny how easy it is to see that as the same thing as other abused substances when you're not going to do it and know you're not.

In other news, I just remembered this morning that my husband's office party is Saturday night. I mean, I'd remembered that it was then, but not the OTHER part of the induction phase -- no drinking! I almost said "That's it. Sorry hon, but if I can't drink I can't go to your office party." I had already thought about the food part and thought, well, I'm pretty sure there'll be salad, if nothing else that I can eat. And the darn thing is always torture anyway, even if I do drink, so why not just be brave. So that's what I've decided to do.

Sorry for being all me-me-me! I took a leaf from wise Anagram and awarded self a clean slate as well. Love!

12-01-2004, 11:02 AM
Sun is shining brilliantly this morning (somewhat unexpectedly - wasn't supposed to be rid of the rain until later today). Helping arthritis and mood tremendously. DID NOT come to computer first this a.m. but wrote some checks, did a load of laundry and mixed up about five meat loafs for the freezer. Always feel better when I have meat loaf and nut roll in the freezer for emergencies. So while backlog is still big, it is all a little more neatly organized.

New month and "I'll get things together yet" attitude is prevailing. Wood nymph, am so glad you're taking a few days off. Much needed, I'm sure. And go knock them dead at the party. Being brave is always queenly. And queens can always rule their (SB) realm w/o mead or local variant. Am sure DH will much appreciate your company. As with Wildfire and Cerise of late, doing something because DH will really appreciate it is often well worth the effort.

Well, still sitting here in my flannel nightie so best go hop in the bathing suit as heading out to pool in a bit. No specific plans yet for later today and it always works better if I know what's coming next. Could just work on the lists. Yuk!

12-01-2004, 11:07 AM
P.S. The clean slates are over by the "Fresh start" cards.

WN - hope the family situation works it's way in a satisfactory manner though I know how unlikely that can be. You know, I always think I sound like a Pollyanna when I say this (even if only to self) but I find the more love I can muster in these situations really does help. It is so hard for some of us to let others be in charge of their situations that I commend you for recognizing it's not for you to work out. (And you wouldn't be a queenly mom/sister if you weren't concerned about it all.)

12-01-2004, 10:28 PM
Kaylets can't believe it's Wednesday already and I'm thinking,'s ONLY Wednesday! Month end, upcoming year end, budgets, audits, blah, blah, blah...ICK. I had myself convinced for a good part of yesterday that it was Wednesday and wasn't so delighted when a co-worker informed me it was only Tuesday.

But I do have Monday and Tuesday off and plan to do my Christmas shopping and mailing. Of course, that means buying baby stuff for my darling nephew. Ooh...I have pictures:

In other news, the hunt is officially on. We met with a realtor last night and are setting up appointments to view houses this weekend.

SeeCat, I don't know if we've "officially" met, so welcome! Nice to meet you! :wave:

Cerise, after reading about Vin's humble beginnings, I admire him all the more. The packaging is fantastic, but it's nice to know the inside is all good, too. And that gravelly voice gives me goosebumps. So did you get the tree yet???? It's December 1st...what are you waiting for? Christmas? :D

anagram, I thought it was funny that you said you always feel better about having meatloaf and nut roll in the freezer...but I know what you mean. It's about having a backup plan. Something we should always have to prevent falling off the wagon. Plan B. :yes: Is your pool all new and improved now that it is open again?

Arabella, if this party is something you must do, then make the best of it. Maybe eat something before you go, just in case. Hey, there's that backup plan again! I have DH's party on Saturday, too, but for me it will be a reunion of sorts because we were both working at the same company before I took this new job. I'll get to catch up with everyone! I'll raise a glass (or two) to you on Saturday, hoping your party is better than you expect. Enjoy your days off!

Eydie, our sugarless goes it?

ceara, any snow your way? We've just had rain.

And our Faerie :queen: Amarantha?

PUNKIN, stop by!

Here's a question for you all: What music are you currently listening to? (Other than the Nutcracker, of course! :) )

I have Nat King Cole's greatest hits in my discman as I type. No one croons a tune like Nat. One my few memories of my father is dancing in the living room to Nat King Cole when I was probably only 3 or 4. (He died when I was 5.) Funny, I can listen to Nat and enjoy those memories, but if I hear Luther Vandross' current release of "To Dance with my Father Again" on the radio, I have to turn it off. I get too emotional. Music is a wonderful beast.

Straighen Up and Fly Right. Words to live by.

A bientot!

12-01-2004, 11:27 PM
Yo! Brevity mode and me-me postin' again :queen: s ... sorry again for the lack of responding to thy queenly selves ... but I think about thee all a lot ... dunno, just not up to much in the way of stringin' words together lately ... which is not good since that's what I do for a livin' darlins! ... the faerie diet is nae a go fur the day.

Re previous comments (mine, actually) on noticing when that bad ol' cortisol causeth a desire to overeat, I just noticed that again tonight. Probably I should just journalize this and leave thee poor queens alone but ... anyhow, there's something to this cortisol/food connection ... and it doesn't even have to be anything big for the neurons to fire and the process to begin (e.g., the slide into junk food heck) ... ALL day I've been doing ok with food but noticed a lot of frustrations lurking around in my weak little psyche ... tonight all I wanted to do was play a game online ... latterly I've sort of gotten addicted to a certain game on a certain site (yet another bad habit I've acquired) ... it's a paid site but has problems ... sometimes you can't get into a game and when that happened tonight instead of doing something sane like painting, I swear I literally felt this cortisol surge and ... the rest is history.

Not sure why I'm sharing something so trivial ... it's the freakin' cortisol ...

I need to get a life ...

I do promise to stop doing me-me posties and respond to people soon ...

12-02-2004, 07:21 AM
Hello all!

Recvd another great email this am.... it does have some religious reference so please be forewarned but the overall theme is so terrific I wanted to share....



Pa never had much compassion for the lazy or those who squandered their means and then never had enough for the necessities. But for those who were genuinely in need, his heart was as big as all outdoors. It was from him that I learned the greatest joy in life comes from giving, not from receiving.
It was Christmas Eve 1881. I was fifteen years old and feeling like the world had caved in on me because there just hadn't been enough money to buy me the rifle that I'd wanted for Christmas. We did the chores early that night for some reason. I just figured Pa wanted a little extra time so we could read in the Bible.
After supper was over I took my boots off and stretched out in front of the fireplace and waited for Pa to get down the old Bible. I was still feeling sorry for myself and, to be honest, I wasn't in much of a mood to read Scriptures. But Pa didn't get the Bible; instead he bundled up again and went outside. I couldn't figure it out because we had already done all the chores. I didn't worry about it long though; I was too busy wallowing in self-pity.
Soon Pa came back in. It was a cold clear night out and there was ice in his beard. "Come on, Matt," he said. "Bundle up good, it's cold out tonight." I was really upset then. Not only wasn't I getting the rifle for Christmas, now Pa was dragging me out in the cold, and for no earthly reason that I could see. We'd already done all the chores, and I couldn't think of anything else that needed doing, especially not on a night like this
But I knew Pa was not very patient at one dragging one's feet when he'd told them to do something, so I got up and put my boots back on and got my cap, coat, and mittens. Ma gave me a mysterious smile as I opened the door to leave the house. Something was up, but I didn't know what.
Outside, I became even more dismayed. There in front of the house was the work team, already hitched to the big sled. Whatever it was we were going to do wasn't going to be a short, quick, little job. I could tell. We never hitched up this sled unless we were going to haul a big load.
Pa was already up on the seat, reins in hand. I reluctantly climbed up beside him. The cold was already biting at me. I wasn't happy. When I was on, Pa pulled the sled around the house and stopped in front of the woodshed. He got off and I followed. "I think we'll put on the high sideboards," he said. "Here, help me." The high sideboards! It had been a bigger job than I wanted to do with just the low sideboards on, but whatever it was we were going to do would be a lot bigger with the high sideboards on.
After we had exchanged the sideboards, Pa went into the woodshed and came out with an armload of wood---the wood I'd spent all summer hauling down from the mountain, and then all Fall sawing into blocks and splitting. What was he doing? Finally I said something. "Pa," I asked, "what are you doing?" You been by the Widow Jensen's lately?" he asked. The Widow Jensen lived about two miles down the road. Her husband had died a year or so before and left her with three children, the oldest being eight. Sure, I'd been by, but so what? "Yeah," I said, "Why?" "I rode by just today," Pa said. "Little Jakey was out digging around in the woodpile trying to find a few chips. They're out of wood, Matt."
That was all he said and then he turned and went back into the woodshed for another armload of wood. I followed him. We loaded the sled so high that I began to wonder if the horses would be able to pull it. Finally, Pa called a halt to our loading, then we went to the smoke house and Pa took down a big ham and a side of bacon. He handed them to me and told me to put them in the sled and wait.
When he returned he was carrying a sack of flour over his right shoulder and a smaller sack of something in his left hand. "What's in the little sack?" I asked. "Shoes. They're out of shoes. Little Jakey just had gunnysacks wrapped around his feet when he was out in the woodpile this morning. I got the children a little candy too. It just wouldn't be Christmas without a little candy."
We rode the two miles to Widow Jensen's pretty much in silence. I tried to think through what Pa was doing. We didn't have much by worldly standards. Of course, we did have a big woodpile, though most of what was left now was still in the form of logs that I would have to saw into blocks and split before we could use it. We also had meat and flour, so we could spare that, but I knew we didn't have any money, so why was Pa buying them shoes and candy?
Really, why was he doing any of this? Widow Jensen had closer neighbors than us; it shouldn't have been our concern. We came in from the blind side of the Jensen house and unloaded the wood as quietly as possible, and then we took the meat and flour and shoes to the door. We knocked. The door opened a crack and a timid voice said, "Who is it?" "Lucas Miles, Ma'am, and my son, Matt. Could we come in for a bit?"
Widow Jensen opened the door and let us in. She had a blanket wrapped around her shoulders. The children were wrapped in another and were sitting in front of the fireplace by a very small fire that hardly gave off any heat at all. Widow Jensen fumbled with a match and finally lit the lamp. "We brought you a few things, Ma'am," Pa said and set down the sack of flour. I put the meat on the table. Then Pa handed her the sack that had the shoes in it.
She opened it hesitantly and took the shoes out one pair at a time. There was a pair for her and one for each of the children---sturdy shoes, the best, shoes that would last. I watched her carefully. She bit her lower lip to keep it from trembling and then tears filled her eyes and started running down her cheeks. She looked up at Pa like she wanted to say something, but it wouldn't come out.
"We brought a load of wood too, Ma'am," Pa said. He turned to me and said, "Matt, go bring in enough to last awhile. Let's get that fire up to size and heat this place up." I wasn't the same person when I went back out to bring in the wood. I had a big lump in my throat and as much as I hate to admit it, there were tears in my eyes too.
In my mind I kept seeing those three kids huddled around the fireplace and their mother standing there with tears running down her cheeks with so much gratitude in her heart that she couldn't speak. My heart swelled within me and a joy that I'd never known before, filled my soul. I had given at Christmas many times before, but never when it had made so much difference. I could see we were literally saving the lives of these people.
I soon had the fire blazing and everyone's spirits soared. The kids started giggling when Pa handed them each a piece of candy and Widow Jensen looked on with a smile that probably hadn't crossed her face for a long time. She finally turned to us. "God bless you," she said. "I know the Lord has sent you. The children and I have been praying that he would send one of his angels to spare us."
In spite of myself, the lump returned to my throat and the tears welled up in my eyes again. I'd never thought of Pa in those exact terms before, but after Widow Jensen mentioned it I could see that it was probably true. I was sure that a better man than Pa had never walked the earth. I started remembering all the times he had gone out of his way for Ma and me, and many others. The list seemed endless as I thought on it.
Pa insisted that everyone try on the shoes before we left. I was amazed when they all fit and I wondered how he had known what sizes to get. Then I guessed that if he was on an errand for the Lord that the Lord would make sure he got the right sizes.
Tears were running down Widow Jensen's face again when we stood up to leave. Pa took each of the kids in his big arms and gave them a hug. They clung to him and didn't want us to go. I could see that they missed their Pa, and I was glad that I still had mine.
At the door Pa turned to Widow Jensen and said, "The Mrs. wanted me to invite you and the children over for Christmas dinner tomorrow. The turkey will be more than the three of us can eat, and a man can get cantankerous if he has to eat turkey for too many meals. We'll be by to get you about eleven. It'll be nice to have some little ones around again. Matt, here, hasn't been little for quite a spell." I was the youngest. My two brothers and two sisters had all married and had moved away. Widow Jensen nodded and said, "Thank you, Brother Miles. I don't have to say, "'May the Lord bless you,' I know for certain that He will."
Out on the sled I felt a warmth that came from deep within and I didn't even notice the cold. When we had gone a ways, Pa turned to me and said, "Matt, I want you to know something. Your ma and me have been tucking a little money away here and there all year so we could buy that rifle for you, but we didn't have quite enough.
Then yesterday a man who owed me a little money from years back came by to make things square. Your ma and me were real excited, thinking that now we could get you that rifle, and I started into town this morning to do just that. But on the way I saw little Jakey out scratching in the woodpile with his feet wrapped in those gunnysacks and I knew what I had to do. Son, I spent the money for shoes and a little candy for those children. I hope you understand."
I understood, and my eyes became wet with tears again. I understood very well, and I was so glad Pa had done it. Now the rifle seemed very low on my list of priorities. Pa had given me a lot more. He had given me the look on Widow Jensen's face and the radiant smiles of her three children.
For the rest of my life, whenever I saw any of the Jensens, or split a block of wood, I remembered, and remembering brought back that same joy I felt riding home beside Pa that night. Pa had given me much more than a rifle that night; he had given me the best Christmas of my life.


Such a good reminder that if we are really lucky, the best gift is not what we want but what we really need.....

Empress-- Yes, I can relate....Except, I forgot about cortisol-- Just knew I was so crabby I didnt even want to be w/ myself....DH enjoys the free gambling games... is that your latest passion???

Hi everyone!!!!

Want to tell you about an incredible black bean soup DH made last night but since I still you all a photo of myself, my last speech and who knows what else, I hesitate to promise the recipe....

Cerise-- I just might suprise you when I have "free minutes" !!
Let me see, if its 2pm here on the East coast, is it 11am where you are???

Must be off!

Thought of the day :

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
Question of the day :

"Do you prefer sunrise or sunset?"



12-02-2004, 08:15 AM
Oh, Kaylets, now I'm starting my day off w/tears! Still, tears for whatever reason are a good release and may lower my cortisol levels. Great little story.

Ah, yes, Empress, the comfort of games. I've never played computer games but recently taught Princess Eight to play solitaire on the computer. Well, I must admit I got more than a wee hooked. Cannot believe the distraction (in both good and bad ways) it has given me. But I'd really be ALL ready for Christmas without it (or so I like to think).

Had a good day yesterday, food, water, exercise all in shape - and other good things as well. Can't seem to pull self together to make even simple plans for next few days though.

Today is an anniversary of sorts - it's two years since DHs kidney aneurysm ruptured. Maybe I should say two years of elevated cortisol.

We went out for one Christmas gift yesterday and came back w/three. If it would only work that way every time.

Wildfire, what a little charmer the nephew is. Just want to cuddle when I look at him. And what fun he'll add to Christmas. I could spend hours with the baby stuff, just looking. No, unfortunately, after being closed for five months the pool was only restored to what it had been, barring a very few small changes in the small locker room. However, it had been a pretty nice place before. Other than the locker room being way too small, it's good. It's close, convenient, reasonable, warm. And since they closed another of their facilities they've added another afternoon class giving me a bit more choice. There are two others I've been meaning to check out and will, one of these days but right now, this one's pretty comfortable and I appreciate that it's so available to me. Others travel up to an hour to get to it.

Well, DH is shaking up my Slimfast so I'm off into the day.........

WSW, hope things are better soon.

12-02-2004, 08:26 AM
Good story Kaylets!

I have a copy of the cortisol connection out and am just in the early bit...I can see the correlations I think....modern living is killing me....I also have a hold on the dvd supersize will be early spring before it gets to me...I hope it stands up to the use!

I am off to lower Illinois this weekend...with the evil of whom rearranged my ear for me on Tuesday...playing, got her tooth snagged on my earring and pulled it out, along with catching my upper ear lobe with her tooth. What a mess. I'm on drugs. The earring is at the jewellers. So I'm working on the older hairball in a few minutes...then off to parental brekkie..and errands.

It is great to see all of you :wave: and I hope to respond in greater depth when I get back!

QOD..I see both of them usually, but I think I prefer sunrise. However I enjoy both of them....lotsa rain here snow, although I think we got to 0 last night...there are ice crystals in the grass this morn. Music...none...usually. I have had a local radio station on occasionally which plays straight Christmas stuff now...but I just do the BOT thing...

Well gotta fly and groom...Ta-Rah!

Have a great week-end. Keep me in your thoughts...I'm with the munch monkey again.


12-02-2004, 01:51 PM
I felt a bit better yesterday, did spend the day working on getting the house up to code, but realized it will take more than a day. Probably worked too hard on it -- urinary tract infection is back, plus sinuses, chest congestion. I feel like I've got an infection from my top to my bottom. :rolleyes: Have foresworn coffee this morning, since I know it makes it worse, am taking cranberry extract and ginseng, acidopholus. Will get a goldenseal/echinachea tincture and drink lots of green tea and water. I did all these things before, but I think I stopped too soon (as soon as the symptoms disappeared). Feh! Seems so unfair when I've been off sugar in such a major way. Oh well...

Kaylets, what a great story! Do you know anything about who wrote it? Re: sunset vs. sunrise -- I refuse to choose! In the ideal world, I'd be watching both every day they were visible, making my pact with the day.

Ceara, EWWWWW!!! How horrible! Hope your ear isn't too badly savaged and that it and earring have a complete recovery!

Anagram, thank you so much for the wise words! To be honest, I can't help but try to think of a solution to the problem. But, yes, we have to understand that trouble is part of life.

Amarantha, thank you so much for stopping by! Sometimes that's all that one is up to, and it's so much appreciated!

DGS is here -- must away, but love to all mentioned or un-. Let's make this a good one!

12-02-2004, 05:14 PM

I'm having one of those days where you're feeling pukey because you spent the last evening watching movies and eating too much Thai food - you're yucky physically because of all that sitting around and eating, and you're yucky mentally because the mountains of undone work sitting at home press on your mind.

I'm afraid this is a blow-by, but I wanted to stop in (after two days of lurking and not writing :mad: ) and say how much I'm glad that we're all here. Let's try, this season, to come in and say something, even if it's me-me and not very message-y for everyone. You know? Just reading about your lives and hearing that I wasn't the only one fighting the "hissies" (thanks for that great terminology, Anagram!) in the last couple of days helped so much. I resonated with your messages so much, all of them, and even though I'm not going to talk individually today, I sincerely felt all of your...feelings in my own heart and thought of you fondly.

I went to see my new therapist for our 4th session, which is probably why I'm not feeling very talkative today - it usually takes a couple of days after each session for coherent thoughts to coalesce enough to even talk about them.

One thing - I've found my shoes on the internet! I'm buying myself a pair of gorgeous character shoes to celebrate my new life as a dancer. Dancing has been one of my great, great longings since I was a child, any kind of dancing (I've gotten urges to learn hula, flamenco, latin, belly, everything except ballet and jazz), and I think being true to these urges (finally) might be part of what unlocks my great mystery (at least in the Why Do I Hate Exercising? department) and leads me into a sustainably healthy lifestyle. Eating (specifically: Why Can't I Eat Healthy Food in Moderate Portions?) is still a great mystery yet to be cracked.

All right, dears, have a wonderful day and know that I'm thinking of/smiling at you. Much love,

12-02-2004, 07:52 PM
Amarantha, I don't know much about cortisol---I'll have to read up on it. Any recommendations? Thanks for stopping by----please come more often!

Kaylets, doggone it, now I'm crying! But in that good way, of course!

Ceara, how's the ear? Truly horrifying story! [shudder]

Anagram, are you close to finishing your Christmas shopping? I love to finish early.

Wildfire, good luck finding your 'nest'! Very exciting. My unsolicited advice: keep an open mind. We always envisioned an old farm house for ourselves and ended up in a vacation cottage and it's perfect for us.

Arabella, feel better soon, my dear. Drink up!

Cerise, I love hearing how excited you are about being a dancer. Dancing is the best--did a little belly dancing tonight myself just for the JOY of it. I have the African Healing Dance tape too; have you tried it? Truly joyous!

Remember the accident I was in a few weeks ago? We have a third car, so it was nice to drive the spare and then that car broke down on us a couple of days ago----so 2 cars in the shop and we had to figure out the logistics of me getting around. And I was okay with it, didn't like it, but I didn't freak out. And I know you've heard it a million times from me, but being sugar-free has changed my brain or something! I am, as I told Cerise, rather unflappable lately!
I did get my car back today and it looks brand new. Nice to have the old girl back! Get to pick up the other one tomorrow and our little metal family will be complete again. It's true that we won't have a dime to throw around this holiday but that's okay, all's well!

12-02-2004, 08:34 PM
Hello all!

Just a quick stop by to say hi...

Ceara-- YIKES!! Bet the pup was very upset wondering what was going on!
And how many stitches???

Wood Nymph-- It was one of those emails fwded by someone else... came from the Yahoo site it looks like... I'll see if I can find out for you...

Cortisol.... sigh... still stress related right?

Spent today's commute reading Marianne Williamson's "Refelctions on A Course in Miracles".....
Am very encouraged that she writes as I remember her speaking on television... she believes its all just different paths to the same place... and that place is simply but grandly, love....

See you all soon.

12-02-2004, 08:37 PM
Hi, :queen: E!!! My recommendation for cortisol reduction: RETIRE EARLY! :)

And hi all :queen: s and thanks for the responses to my cortisol dilemma ... will write more later.

Well, I have five minutes before I have to head out to cover a meeting, so can't post much again ... but wanted to say I feel better and have embarked and invited participation on a 30-day holiday challenge (which unfortunately I posted on the challenge section and my journal in the far far away land ... hoping folkettes will join me) ... IT'S LATER THAN WE THINK, :queen: s ... THIS IS IT ... LAST CHANCE CAFE ... gonna get in gear for the new year.


Sorry, I gotta go do this thang!

12-03-2004, 07:20 AM
Hello all!

Friday! Hope the Q of Friday can stop by and bring news of her kingdom....

Looks like my system thinks its in the midst of a "illegal transaction..."

Think its best to wish us all a good day and I'll look in from work if I can....

and oh by the way, I can only lurk from there but just imagine me there on my rocking throne, listening raptly ....


PS- Did I ever tell you that you're my favorite?

12-03-2004, 09:13 AM
O.H.H....SNOW! Just a slight bit...

No, no stitches...just drugs. The earring didn't pull down through the lobe. Thank goodness it came unclasped. The gash across my ear is just below the cartilage that forms the V at your ear was/is shallow...a tooth caught me there too....Yes she was confused, 'cause I whipped her butt into a crate so I could assess the damage...actually DS eyes don't swivel over there..."It's Ok MOM, I don't think you need stitches" My son, the doctor. (He's 17)

Am working through Cortisol Connection book....think I need to assimilate this info....sounds just like me...or is that how they write those books? off shortly...I need to pack and load the car...then hit the road. Have a great week-end ladies...I'll check back in on Monday!

It's Friday!!!!!!!!



12-03-2004, 10:13 AM
I do feel better this morning, and will keep up all the things that make me feel better. Did get to the gym this a.m. and did a set of tai chi while I was there -- nice to have all that space and flat floor, although there's so much more chi around for the gathering outside. Sunny here, although pretty freakin' cold. Tonight's Friday night, and still a big treat even if it only means watching a movie and not looking forward to the alarm going off in the morning.

Ceara, so glad to hear that your shell-like ear is intact! The cortisol connection sounds very interesting -- I'm going to see what I can find out about it. I know that stress is a big problem for me, and has certainly been a huge factor in this weight problem. :yes:

Wildfire -- YES!!! It was the house hunt! I knew there was something big going on. Too bad about the great house in the terrible location, but I know you'll find your perfect place. I love Nat King Cole too, loved your description of listening to music -- love being able to picture you, too, since I've had the pleasure of seeing you in the flesh.

Amarantha, so happy to hear that you're feeling better. YAY!!!! Looking forward to hearing more. This has been very interesting, taking even a few days off. I feel occasionally like I should be doing work-related things but have fought off the impulses. Next week the site editor is away (she's going to be an extra in "The War of the Worlds" which Steven Spielberg's shooting near where she lives) so I'll have more responsibilities, but I suspect get more done too since I won't have as much e-mailing and IMing taking up my time.

Kaylets :wave: -- I see you there on your rocking throne, nodding sagely and thinking your royal thoughts!

Anagram, thanks for the warning on the computer solitaire -- I was just about to have a look for same and then thought "do I need another way to procrastinate?" Uh-uh. :no: I can imagine it being sort of meditative, but then I can also imagine spending WAY too much time on it. I think I'll make myself do a meditation today instead.

Cerise, oh, yup, I certainly know that feeling -- too much food (although I am v. surprised to hear that one can eat too much Thai food -- thought it was exempt :chin: ) and sitting and the messy environment thing. I've started to get my house clean, but found to my dismay that it wasn't a one day job. Guess I'll list the bigger chores and try to get them done gradually.

Eydie, my sugarfree twin! I concur. The psychological effects are astounding. Not that things don't bother me, but they don't overwhelm me. I feel so much more level-headed. And that's bound to help deal with things instead of just getting tied in a knot about them.

Punkin, if thou lurkest :wave: Happy Friday!

All, let's get out there and make this a good one. Love!

12-03-2004, 10:22 AM
Love it when the thread is so active I have a time catching up after only one day! Arabella, hope you're feeling better - too familiar with one day not doing it. Give DGS a couple of hugs from me. And try to rest when he does - IF he does. Hope housing problem is working out a bit.

Ceara, hope the ear is feeling better. Love it that you get to go on these weekend jaunts though I'm sure it puts time stress on rest of week. But they sound so fun!

Nope, Eydie, not near done on shopping. Hope to get out today and get daughter last of her birthday gifts. Do have the girlies done (most important), also DIL, need one more thing for DD and also for DSIL. Then it's DS - he's getting as tough as his Dad to buy for. And then there's Dad himself - almost impossible. For his birthday this week, I got him a new remote ALL FOR HIMSELF. $10 but it was more for the idea and he liked it.
Glad your car's home!

Wildfire, courage in the househunt. It's so fun and so discouraging at the same time.

Woke up this a.m. a bit on the blah side but I've pushed that into the past. You're right, Cerise, if you sit too long, you can get to be very blah. Hey, hon, vent when you want and me-me when you want - just check in, lurk but don't get lost again.

Glad you're feeling a bit better, Empress. Come on and check in on the court and we're sure to brighten your life (a little humility here?) - anyway sounds like your challenge will help. Will search it out a bit.

Had a good day yesterday on all 3 fronts. Gad, that's two in a row - is the earth still spinning on its axis?

Don't want to lose my momentum for the day so had best kiss the computer goodbye for a while.

12-03-2004, 01:45 PM
Good Friday, mes amies!

Punkiiiiin. It ain't Friday 'til the redhead sings. :flame:

Just stopping in to say hey - I'll be back later to do posties. I hope you're all doing well today. A few more hours until the weekend!!! :dancer:

12-04-2004, 02:00 PM
Well, I'm absolutely certain that this is the first time I've ever conversed with you because I couldn't sleep - it's an ungodly hour; 8:45 on a Saturday morning! :lol: Just kidding. I don't always get up at noon on a weekend, but getting up before 9 is a rarity and I thought I'd remark on it.

I really can't sleep, though. I'm feeling rather feverish this morning. Maybe I've already mentioned that I've been answering ads in the local anti-paper (what do you call those? Free weekly papers that everyone reads but they aren't the paper, know what I mean?) for bands looking for vocalists. Well, most of them are infants (age 18 to 25, max) looking for an Avril Lavigne look-alike, though they can't say that because they shamefacedly know that it should be about the music and not about how their lead singer looks in a punk bustier, but I digress. Most of these bands haven't the slightest intention of calling me back because I make it clear when I contact them that I'm 29 and a woman of size, though I also make it clear that I'm pretty, very funny on stage and experienced in lead singing and recording. The age and the weight are totally against me, so I get no calls back, but I keep on because it's a numbers game (Ramon introduced me to this concept). Eventually, I'll run into a group of people for whom it is all about the music and not about selling sex, and then I'll be in. And those will be the only kind of people that I want to make good music with anyway, right? Right.

So, ANYWAY. Sorry for the long lead-in. I got a response last night, not from The Stranger ads (our weekly anti-paper) but from an ad posted on a window at our favorite used music store on Broadway, you know the kind, with young hipsters meandering here and there flipping through cds looking for the latest release from local underground bands - a cool place with infinite listening stations. These two guys were also infants (listen to me - it's like I'm 90 or something), but charming, polite infants who wrote about their lovely, tender musical sensibilities in the ad and thereby won my heart. The guitarist (who works at the store) asked me in a voice message to stop by, pick up a demo of his guitar playing and determine what I could add vocally to the project. Excited isn't the word. Recording again! :dance: I could record with nice, hip young men and maybe it'll be brilliant! In college, when I had a million requests to record my vocs on peoples' demos, I would've said, "Well, I don't know..." but now I'm all freaked out - when can I start? Where's your recoding space? Is now a good time??? :hyper:

I know that so much could go wrong (here's me overthinking again) - I'm worried that when they see me...well, I'm not the elephant man. I won't think about that any more.

So, posties. Thanks for reading all of that, by the way. I'm so verbose when I'm in an up period and am actually putting myself out there.

Anagram, the penny drops. I've long wondered what your husband was dealing with that you and he had to be so solicitous of the health of his kidneys. An aneurysm - yikes. That must have been painful and infinitely frightening. Well, I just think that you and he must be extraordinary people - your life sounds good, a life I'd like to come visit and bask in every so often, and I can't help but think that only the strongest and best of people could make a good life in the face of such a life-changing and -challenging event. At least, your life sounds good. Maybe it's **** on wheels and you've been faking it this whole time on our thread, but I think not. ;) Your DH is a lucky man and I'm honored to have spent time reading about your and his life.

Arabella, you made me laugh. Honey, I live in a one-bedroom apartment and even that ain't no one-day cleaning job. Crazy girl. :p I'm glad you're feeling better, love, and was intrigued by your statement - more chi to be gathered outside? Hmmm. Do you mean gathering strength from looking at a beautiful tree or a smile from a stranger or a cute dog walking along? Like that? Please explain because that's a way cool concept and I'm going to adopt it even if it's not what you meant. :high: Muchas gracias for the inspiration!

Oh, my Lord, Ceara. Ow ow ow ow ow ow! Ehhhh, *shudder*. You poor baby! Walking wounded and all that. Have a good weekend even dealing with your Mike Tyson ear...

Kaylets, you call me, baby, anytime you want! How I'd love to hear your voice. Your story was cool - thanks for sharing it. Is your computer OK?

Eydie, I really am excited about dancing, and masterfully trying to fight away the million fearful thoughts that come knocking when you try something new. What if I hate it? What if I just suck at it and quit? What if no one wants to dance with me? Etc. Just a sampler there. Never mind! I'm just going to do it. I believe that if you put yourself out there that (along with the inevitable awkwardnesses and embarrassments) rewards that you never anticipated follow, and I'm just going to shut my eyes and jump. I know you believe in all this too - just repeating it for my own edification. :lol: Whoa, you have that African dance DVD too? I pulled it dusty off a used DVD shelf at the aforementioned music store - I actually watched the dancing and wept a little, because I used to watch the mothers from the Muslim village teach their daughters very similar steps around a fire at night in Africa. Yes, it's a wonderful DVD. Now to actually dance to it... :dizzy:

My dear, two cars in the shop would have indeed put me and most other average American women into a considerable flap. You are to be commended and I'm overjoyed for you...

My dear Amarantha, your psyche is anything, anything but weak. Trust me on this one. And I wish you'd stop worrying about responding to people - I read your stuff and you are talking to me, silly. ;) You're here and with me and that's all I care about, my dear. We all need to get a life sometimes. Like me. My only friends in this big city are still my brother and SIL, and I've been here for a year and a half! :rolleyes: For someone as social as me, that might as well be a decade and a half. I have daydreams about meeting an ultra-cool gay man at salsa dancing and he'll be my best friend. Not sure why the sexual preference is important, but it seems to be and I'm rolling with it. God, I'm weird...

Wildfire, your neffy is too cute to be real. Come on, used pictures of a Baby Gap model, didn't you?!

Hmmm, what's in my discman? I've been playing this album, "Simply Baroque" with Yo-yo Ma. Baroque music (Bach and stuff) relaxes me like nothing else, except maybe jazz. It's a wonderful CD to have playing during a stressful time. Ahhh, Vin Diesel. Y'know, there's something irresistible about a beefcake-looking man with exotic, racially ambiguous looks who was an English major. We watched "The Chronicles of Riddick" this week and...I have no words. :faint:

Speaking of movies, I saw "The Terminal" with Tom Hanks last night and really liked it. Kind of feel-good at the end (Spielberg can't resist it, I swear) but very, very good.

WSW, Punkin, Seecat, Frogger, Zadie - love to you all and hope everything's copacetic with you.

On to hunt for the perfect tree! Luv!

12-05-2004, 03:49 PM
Happy Sunday, my dears!

All right, well, I'm afraid of boring all of you with 3 straight posts in a row about little ol' me, but I want to be with you today, so here's me sitting down and telling you about my Saturday.

Our tree is exquisite. We drove for about half an hour to find my co-worker's tree farm, having a meaningful conversation in the meantime about our arguring style and why it's not very efficient (he says something I think is thoughtless or offensive, I get indignant and fire a salvo, he shows indifference and feigns shock that I'm even upset, then I blow my stack, etc.). We get to the tree farm (it's raining, of course - this is Seattle we're talking about) and it's positively crawling with people, but the family is efficient about getting people a saw and getting them on the wagon to go out into the fields of Christmas trees as far as the eye can see. Or they can be weiners and buy one from their lot for outrageous we tromp through the soggy fields, looking for the perfect tree, and there it was. I'm including a picture, unadorned for now. After we tied it to the top of our car, we paid for it, a sprig of real mistletoe (with berries and everything!) and got free cups of hot apple cider pressed by a family about 1/2 mile away. What a very, very cool experience.

Anyway, today we decorate.

I'm going to sign off so Ramon can get on (don't want to precipitate a fight :lol: ). See you later hopefully, ladies. I hope you're all out doing amazingly fun things this weekend.


12-05-2004, 04:50 PM
Just so you don't feel too lonely rattling around in here, Cerise...

Great tree! It looks beautiful already, too :) We're getting our tree next week -- DH's birthday is on the 16th and I'll be hosting a dinner party, always like to have the tree up for that. It always seems to be a dependably very pleasant gathering. Holiday magic, I think because somehow I manage to have everything ready ahead of time and all goes smoothly and everyone's in a very festive and warm mood.

We went to my mom's birthday party yesterday afternoon and my behavior was stellar . Not a glass of wine, not a single illicit treat. :smug: Then DH's staff party -- well, I drank 5 glasses of wine. But had only salad, veggies and lean turkey and ham for dinner, so I'm counting it a semi-victory. Also, actually had some fun (after *****ing about having to go for about a week :rolleyes: ) So, that's good and I'm totally back on the wagon today where I'll remain for the foreseeable future, with only 2 or 3 brief, controlled, and fleeting exceptions through the holidays.

Going to watch "Hero" tonight. DH is cooking an Indian meal as we speak. :cp: Tomorrow is my first WI after a full week OP (ok, except for the wine) on the SB induction, so I'm hoping to have a good loss :crossed: See you in the morning!

12-05-2004, 07:00 PM
Hello all!

Been a very odd day for me schedulewise.. I ate perfectly fine which is a plus but took a nap from 10:30 to 1 mostly because I felt like a block of ice...
And its really pretty nice outside....

My ebay auctions are not being bid on... a tiny bit but nothing as it should be...
Now, DH and I are going to have rethink the whole process...

And believe it or not, I've been lurking around ....

Cerise, the tree looks perfect! And I wish my house was tidy as yours !
Right now, I feel like I could use a dumpster!

Wood Nymph, You've survived two holiday gatherings w/ barely a scratch!
How regal !!

So... finally have a photo to share....
The me on the far left is early days of the journey...
In themiddle is me now but wearing the same shirt as in the far left...
and the shot to the far right speaks for itself...

So... there I am!

12-05-2004, 09:09 PM
Pictures all over the place! Love it!

First, Kaylets...what a transformation! Maybe I shouldn't say it, and I hope it doesn't offend you because we are all on personal journeys to our goals, but I don't think you need to lose any more weight. You look great now! Perhaps your body has been trying to tell you that the last while. Don't get hung up on a number.

Cerise, what a darling tree! Our real trees were alway big sprawly beasts that didn't look so big and sprawly in the great outdoors but sprung to life like the tree from National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation once we got them home in the living room. Yours looks perfect! Can we have pictures of it when the decorating is completed? I can just picture Ramon with a goofy perma-grin now that he has his real tree. :D

Arabella, so glad the party wasn't as awful as you'd expected. DH's party last night was fabulous. It was so nice for me to see all my old workmates. I've never been hugged so much in one night in my life!!

Our house hunting yesterday took us to see five houses. One of them we want to purchase! I have been on pins and needles since we were there. I'm not good at these things...I want it NOW. It is in a great location, excellent condition, and I really think it is the best we are going to find for the price we want to pay. I don't need to see any more houses. This is the one I want. The kitchen is small, and one of my main requirements was a good kitchen, but the potential is there for us to redo cabinetry and add a little, and then it would be great! So we are meeting with the bank in the morning to finalize things and then we'll make an offer. Please cross everything you have for us! I want this house SO much. Details...gleaming hardwood floors (I mean you could see your reflection in them!) new ceramic floors in the foyer and powder room, 3 bedrooms (master bedroom has a 2pc ensuite), finished basement, cold storage, fully fenced back yard, great deck on the back, single car garage, security alarm, all freshly painted, new carpets...I'm going to be insane until we get this house!

Here's some pics (no revealing information included as to location):
Front -
Back -
Entry -
LR -
Kitchen -
Dining -

I'm not going to sleep tonight!

12-05-2004, 10:41 PM
Oooohhhhh Wildfire! It looks so cozy!! I hate house shopping too...
despise it is really the better word...

and thanks for compliments... and I agree, I could stop and continue to rely on good slimming underpinnings.... :D :D
Which I probably will still need even 7.5 pounds from now... The # I chose is the absolute top of the range for my age and height and my motivation is to make lifetime so I go for free and that I do want to be a leader...

Someone else suggested I try for a few pounds below what I chose so I could truthfully say " I lost 100 lbs.." ... I'm perfectly content to say " I lost nearly 100.."

Time to go check how I did on Ebay!

12-06-2004, 07:09 AM
I love photos! :D Kaylets, you look great and very much like I thought you'd look. What a transformation--the pics tell it all! Thanks for sharing. :)

And Wildfire, you're right--you won't sleep till you find out if it's yours. I'm crossing all my digits and limbs and anything else that overlaps on your behalf. It's a great house!

Lovely tree, Cerise! Yes, I want to see it decorated too.

In case any of the royals don't know, Queen Cerise has started a Christmas thread in misc. clubs. Please check it out!

Arabella, such good behavior at the parties. I attended my first Xmas party Saturday night and contented myself w/ cheese and no sugar. Actually, not true. I had a tiny bite of a glorious homemade cheesecake. Very good and one tiny bite was enough to make me want the whole cake. That's why I decided to give up sugar--it's like I'm an addict. Better to just not start. Thank God for the cheese and vegetable tray!

Well Friends, this is my Victorian Christmas week. It's a lot of fun, but I'll practically live at work all week. Dear Garry helped me gather greenery and decorate the house Saturday and Sunday, so that part's out of the way. We'll see hundreds of people this week and Friday we'll take the greens out of the house and it'll be all over. And I'll be cleaning holly leaves, pine needles and nandina berries out of the historic house until July.
Anyway, I have to get creative with food this week. Can't slip now and it would be so easy being surrounded with cookies, fudge, etc! :o

12-06-2004, 07:21 AM
Hmm - I thought I posted a long one yesterday but I hadn't slept much the night before so Lord knows what key I hit or when but it seems to have been eaten by the cyber demons. Nothing lost to posterity but wanted you to know I was "in the court".

Kaylets, how great you look! And so nice to put a face to the name.

Wildfire, the house looks so perfect! I can see why you're anxious to get it and have myself twisted in knots hoping it goes well.

Cerise, you are right! It is the PERFECT tree. And what a grand experience you had. We used to go chopchop when our kids were little but not with so many sweet amenities as your trek had.

Arabella - glad the party went so well. And yours too Wildfire but I know you were expecting yours to. I like your SB holiday adaptation, Arabella and commend you for doing so well.

I do have a good life, Cerise, but not without angst and drama at lots of times. Yes, the aneurysm was very painful for dh and not being sure he'd make it was awful for me. But we've had two years now to make sure everything that needs to be said and done is said and done and I'm very grateful for that time.

Hope to finish decorating except for the tree by this evening and do that later in the week. I'm really enjoying it all this year because i'm not also involved with getting ready to be away for two months. Wore newest Christmas sweater to craft fair yesterday and felt very ""in the moment". An annual thing w/sister but this time w/her almost four grandson so not much serious shopping accomplished. She's babysitting while parents and older bro. are in France this week. Unfortunately a very dear friend of hers passed away and she must give Colin to other grands two days early so she can go to out of town funeral. I feel badly for her and for the family but not for dear Kay herself who suffered immeasurably the last year and a half. So sad.
And DS was so looking forward to so much time with Colin.

Recent music question - Christmas CD occasionally inhouse; in car, an alljazz station and/or my latest Arcona Reel Band tape. But plan to find an all Christmas station as soon as I think of it when I'm in the car.

Stomach problem seems to be improving somewhat. Dr. has given me option of being part of a trial of a new med which 'MIGHT' help. I've done these before and had good results but am not sure I want to w/all the med stuff that goes on aroundhere already. But have proposal to read and am leaning towards it in some ways because that's the way I've usually been and in a way it is a way of "putting myself out there" to improve (hopefully) my life. Good luck, Cerise, on your "putting out there" venture. Those young guys do sound more interested in the music you can make and good for them!

Hre we go, Monday, here we go!!!!!!

12-06-2004, 07:27 AM
Eydie, it all sounds so lovely (except for the work involved and the temptations everywhere). But as a visitor of historic places, it sounds so darling!

wsw, thinking of you as usual and hoping all comes together soon so you can come back to the court where you are loved.

12-06-2004, 07:34 AM
HEllo all!

yes, it is "Here we go Monday, Here we go!".....

First time in a long time I feel in tune w/ the hour, the day etc....
Have a few speed bumps to get over but at this distance only appear to be speed bumps and I am pacing my worry energy so I am trying not to project....

Eydie! I don't envy you w/ so much holiday fare and so much excitement at the house.... We will miss you but will be there in spirit with you... in fact, I think I see a perfect window which we could all gather... Things will will work out!

Anagram! In the moment!! and I'm sure the holiday sweater nover looked better....

Ceara! How is your ear??? I almost resisted but just have to add, My Dear?

YIKES __ I think I might be on verge of just outright silliness and tomfoolery...
Not very regal but then again.... perhaps I am impersonating as the jester??

Thought of the day :

"Courage is not the towering oak that sees storms come and go; it is the fragile blossom that opens in the snow."
-Alice Mackenzie Swaim
Question of the day :

"Which one of your teachers/professors would you like to take to lunch?"


must be off....

PS--Thanks for all the nice things everyone is saying about the pics!

12-06-2004, 10:22 AM
Good morning, Your Excellencies!
Wow! What a surprise to see so many posties this morning -- it's great! I'm back to work this morning, with -- natch! -- a double load. Ah well... WI is at noon and I'm hopeful for a nice little loss :crossed:

Speaking of crossed things --- Wildfire, how exciting!!! The house looks wonderful. Am crossing everything crossable which, lamentably, is a longer list than it used to be :lol:

Kaylets -- WOW!!! You look fantastic! What a lovely figure you have!

Eydie, I know what you mean about the bite of cheesecake. It's like the food version of AA: a whole cheesecake isn't enough and a single bite's too much. Interesting, though, I really never had the same effects from the date treats.

Anagram, I loved your description of being in your sweater and in the moment at the crafts fair!

WSW, if you're lurking :wave: :grouphug:

Oh, alright then. Back to dreaded salt mines. Love to all! Let's make this a good one!

12-06-2004, 11:55 AM
This is going to be short. My typing skills are dead. Got in from IL at 4 in the morning and am whipped...drove DD to the U because she left her lights on yesterday and the car is dead...just got back. I'm gonna unpack a bit and puddle 'til I go to work and CRASH when I get home.

Arabella...hope your WI is a good one.
Geesh Kay! What a difference...sorry the e-bay is down.

:wave: to all! Took me a few minutes to read through and I still can't type!



12-06-2004, 01:12 PM
Wow, there was much posting on the weekend. I did not post at all on Friday becuase I had a nutso type day, and the weekend, at home computer capability is not quite up to speed. I am a bit of a luddite if truth be told. So it is only at work that the real computing gets done.

I woke up to a fresh coat of snow. It actaully makes me a bit happy becuase it seems like Christmas now as opposed to just being cold and brown out.

I am slowly losing the will to journal, which is quite a problem becuase it is how I keep myself in check. There is nothing like writing down "ate entire box of toffee" to keep one from eating an entire box of toffee. Speaking of which...well, you will never imagine what I ate this weekend. Guesses? Anyone?

Cerise, I am so happy for you with the dancing and the bands. I used to dance and I still love it. I am looking for good adult classes arround here. I used to sing as well, but only jazz. I have not doen a gig in years, but I still miss it. Hopefully the nice young men will take a shine to your vocal stylings.

So many wonderful pictures. Fabulous.

At any rate, i must get back to work. Aparently there is a world out there that needs to be saved one report at a time.

12-06-2004, 07:34 PM
Brevity mode again ... sorry ... I'm sort of edging back into things on 3FC ... posted a "Foodwatch" thread for no-frills menu logging if anyone's in the mood to do that with me ... I gotta get a grip on this eating stuff ... have activated all my calorie spreadsheets and logs ... truthfully, my eating's WAY howdy outta control, a symptom of the general state of my outta controlness ...

Om shanti, Cerise ... "... and if you get the chance ... to sit it out or dance ... I hope you dance ... I hope you dance ..."

To all, mentioned or unmentioned ... well, you know! :)

12-06-2004, 08:54 PM
Yikes - it's been the day from he** here today. Some times the stars are just not in proper alignment. But it will be better and so far I'm only one gumdrop away from a good day 3FC wise. Tomorrow's another day, etc. Of course, it's supposed to be another rainy day but I'll just borrow a little sunshine from the court.

12-07-2004, 07:35 AM
Rainy day here too, Anagram. Oh well, let's turn up the heat and have another cup of tea.

Yesterday I got home earlier than I thought and cooked all our food for the week. A Greek lentil soup and an Indian vegetable soup, 2 brocolli quiches, some brown rice, an apple-spice cake [sugarless, of course ;) ], and a couple of different cheese spreads. I feel very well off now, and if I have any dietary slips this week it'll be because I panicked and not because I'm not prepared!

Seecat, you lucky girl--you have snow!

Wildfire, what's the word on the house? Any movement there?

Cerise, what do you hear from the musicians? So exciting!

The house at the Homestead is all decorated. It's beautiful! I'm not crafty at all, but when you get enough greenery and just lay it around you can't go wrong. Always amazes me.

Where's our Xmas smilies? :)

Have a great day, my friends. Dodge those sugar plums!

12-07-2004, 07:46 AM
HEllo all!

Yes, Edyie, sometimes the simplicity is more beautiful and serene than we realize....
Our thoughts run the same path this am...

I too have a few things already cooked for the week-- It's like a FIRST AID KIT but for FOOD WATCHING....


Well, speaking of simplicity.... I made a deal w/ myself to just stick to the basic WW program, don't get creative, don't sweat the small stuff... AND...
this week I saw another loss... tiny bit more than a pound...
Which makes a total of 25.2 lbs since I joined the live meetings last Jan...
Guess that's a success... nothing the infomercials would brag about but.....

Interesting how the minute we try to make things complicated we start to make things very messy......

Thought of the day:

"Many acts of service cost nothing and take little time: encouragement, compliments, listening, gratitude and compassion. Any time you affirm the worth of others, you serve.
----Chris Karcher

Question of the day :
" Name your all time most favorite meal."


here 's to good day for all of us!


12-07-2004, 08:43 AM
Good morning, Faire Ones!

Still got this darn sinus thing happening. I was so sure that getting off the sugar would cure it. I guess I'll have to work harder on it, and failing all other attempts, go to the doctor. I read in Body and Soul about someone curing a sinus infection by mixing cayenne and water and breathing it in. However, it wasn't really clear if they'd just inhaled vapours or actually snuffled the stuff up through the nose and I want to be REALLY clear on that issue before I give it a shot. I think that the writer almost had an NDE, saw God, etc. I'm going to do a search and see what I can find...

Lost 1.6 at WI yesterday. Still up 1 from the 3 I gained in the fall. I have to admit to being a bit disappointed, having vague thoughts of giving up this huge effort. Not going to do it, I guess. What? Try harder? I suppose... :rolleyes: It's so much easier when I feel well and clear-headed, so I'll work harder towards that, too.

Sibling housing issue update -- Found out that my brother does have heat in his part of the house, just doesn't have hot water at the moment. He's still got problems that need fixing and no money to do it, but there isn't the extreme crisis that I feared. I invited him over to dinner last night and made chili (core WW -- yay!) and cinnamon rolls. The men ate all that and some whole wheat rolls along with it while I just had chili. :cp: :cp:

Kaylets, WTG on the loss -- you're such an inspiration! Re: QoD -- seafood, definitely. Maybe crab/avocado salad to start, lobster for the main with asparagus and rice pilaf. Something lemony or chocolate for dessert.

Eydie, that sounds like an amazing amount/assortment of food to put together, but how great to have it all done. You're right -- it's so much easier when you've got the good stuff readily available.

Anagram, hope your evening was pleasant and relaxing! Good for you, staying within a gumdrop of a good 3FC day (legally, I believe one can claim a good day when one is within a gumdrop).

Wildfire, it's all still crossed -- pls. inform as to when I can uncross.

SeeCat, where do you live? Still got your snow? "Saving the world, one report at a time" :lol: I do similarly crucial work myself, informing the public about technology. :yawn: Which I'm just putting off at the moment. Does anyone even notice?

Ok -- enough with the procrastination, I guess. Salt mines, here I come. Love to all, mentioned or un-. Let's get out there and make this a good one!

12-07-2004, 09:06 AM
YES Arabella! A :dance: gone is a :dance: gone! Have a :cb: And you Kaylets....WTG!...a :cb: for you too!

Yes, yesterday was a day from He** for me too....I tell you. Deep breaths.

The typing is slightly better this morning...I 'm catching up so to speak on the sleep.

Today is my last storytime/toddlertime for this year...bittersweet moment........and YEAH! One more morning free! Now I may be able to wash the walls in the bathroom where I stripped off the paper ...that was 2 1/2 weeks ago effort to not eat everything in the house one Saturday after a major disagreement with DS. It worked.

QOD...meatloaf, baked potato and baked squash. That is a comfort meal for me....Hmmm...wonder if I can find some squash for tonight.

Gotta run and figure out my books...I have a ton of 'em home..for this morning. I love Christmas books and there are so many beautiful ones out there....

:wave: to all...posters, brevities and lurkers!


12-07-2004, 09:18 AM
Still in brevity mode but wanted to say hi and CONGRATS TO ALL WHO'RE REPORTING LOSSES ... I think that's :queen: K and :queen: Arabella today but probably have missed some so CONGRATS TO ALL LOSERS, MAINTAINERS AND THOSE WHO MAY BE UP BUT WILL SOON BE DOWN! (I'm weighing in again in a few hours and will change my sig if some of that water weight is gone)!

Thanks be to :queen: s E and K who've deigned to join the Foodwatch Club. The logging with friends be so much more satisfying to me than journaling alone ... I really got a handle on the cals yesterday because of it and I'd like to keep the FW club going forevermore here in the royal environs.

I'm also embarking on an hour-a-day exercise (total, I'll break it up because I'm so blah these days) challenge until January 3. I'm posting this on a previous challenge thread in the land far, far away as we still have active challengers on that thread and I want to be supportive and their support really helps me, in turn.

Arabella, I feel for thy brother as I don't have hot water anymore either ... I refuse to put in another water heater right now ... in Arizona the pipes in old houses (like mine) usually keep the water hot enough for bathing ... and in the winter, I can heat enough for a bath on the stove but usually just shower in the gym (it gets me there and hence I workout more often).

Gotta go ... will be back!

12-07-2004, 09:31 AM
WE GOT THE HOUSE!!!! :cb: :cb: :cb:

You may all uncross now, and thank you all for crossing!

Home inspection is scheduled for Friday morning, and provided nothing major is found (and I really doubt there will be) then we sign a waiver and it's ours!

Congrats on the losses!

Have to run!

12-07-2004, 10:48 AM

To all re my weigh-in, forget it! I decided that wasn't a good idea to start a production day ... going to take a nap and then go off to work.

12-07-2004, 11:58 AM
So happy for you, Wildfire!!!!!

Congrats on losses from this corner as well. Wish I were joining you, have had some really good days but the scale moved up. Will not panic.

Raining again today but still cheerful. Got some equilibrium back by late yesterday afternoon. First thing I said to dh yesterday morning was that I didn't think I would speak to him for a while. I had found freezer door slightly open, freezer (not an automatic defrost) heavily iced and all things in front part semi defrosted. He doesn't remember being in there but nor do I and he's had a recent habit of doing this. Cooked up all the chicken, threw some stuff out etc. Freezer too full right now to defrost but that's probably what saved the whole situation from another disaster.

The rest was just dealing with the outside world re car repairs, banking, phone "menus" that are for MY convenience etc., etc. The stuff of life but it seemed like a month's worth came up yesterday. Then in the mail I got a sweet little letter from Princess Eight and my world lit up again. Today fighting some of the same wars but so far, so good. Raining, raining.

Did pool yesterday and that was great. Today's exercise will be walking Wallyworld and other assorted venues.

I'm on that simplicity train. Have had a long history of making things more worrisome, complicated than they need be. Am doing it just a little over decorations but that's ok because that's something I WANT to do. Having been analyzing behaviors a bit lately too and amazing what one can still discover about self even when you think you know it all.

Good day, Royals.

12-07-2004, 11:59 AM
Congrats on the House :) That is fantastic, and in time for the holidays and everything!

12-07-2004, 04:52 PM
Wow, everyone has good news today! Kaylets and Arabella had good weigh-ins. Anagram perseveres thru a mountain of chores, Amarantha, is here more, And the winner is Wildfire! :flow1: :yes: :encore: I am SOOOO happy for you--that's fabulous news. And you have to tell us every detail, okay? And SeeCat's right, what an excellent thing for the holidays!

I'm glad that you posted the Food Watch thread, Am. I'd like to join you with the hour per day exercise challenge because I'm definitely off in that department lately. I'll just post it along with my food journal, okay?---because it's still kind of hard for me to make it into the other realm. And I'm going to start today--no time like the present, eh?

Hoorah, Wildfire!!!!!!!! :D

12-07-2004, 08:03 PM
Yay, Wildfire!!! :cb: :cp: :cb: :cp: Now you get to moooove out of that cramped lil' apartment, baby! I'm uncrossing (except for fingers for the inspection and final paper-signing) and you're probably unclenching... :lol: By the way, thanks for sharing the pictures. Wow, what a cheerful-looking space! Ramon couldn't help but have a look (he wants a house badly and is currently living vicariously through you, hope you don't mind) and was charmed.

Eydie...honey, I don't have the words, man. Your weekly menu spread sounded...delicious, so healthy and I'd LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to implement such a plan. In fact, I think I might. Maybe I'll find some recipes I've always wanted to try and make some nice food this Saturday. Wonder if Ramon'll dig it. I found a recipe with high ratings for vegetarian chinese dumplings that also make a killer veggie won ton soup - think I'll try that. I wish I could see your homestead! It sounds so wonderful - and can it with the "I'm not crafty" talk. I saw your suggestions to Kiwonk on the Holiday Thread - you can't hide from me! :s: What the **** is a sugar plum, anyway? Maybe I don't want to know...

SeeCat, I hate journalling! Ask these ladies - I'll get on and complain about it from time to time but have never been able to sustain one. If you learn the special secret to making yourself journal, please tell me. Oooh, you sing jazz? Me too! Holiday gigs were my favorite, hands-down. I'm totally doing that next year. :p

Boy, Anagram, the day you described would just about bloody well put me right over the cliff. You handled it so SANELY!!! That's it - you're my new personal hero. Wow. I can just hear you telling your DH with some asperity that you're not speaking to him for a while. :lol: You go ON with the decorating, lady!! Post some pictures on the holiday thread!!! :dancer:

Amarantha, excellent goals for the holidays. Ew, you don't have a water heater? I keep forgetting you're in a warmer climate. I read your post and was going "Dear GOD!!!" but remembered that it's not chilly and damp there. At least I hope not.

Ceara, you had a crappy day yesterday, too? Geez. Y'know, I did too? I swear. Mine's because I have had some hard-core PMS since the weekend and am just starting to feel like a human being again. Awww, you run toddler-time? Oh, God, how cute! I can just picture you with a cluster of little kids around you...

Arabella, congrats on the loss! And yeeees, it's a loss. Yes it is. Yes it IS!!! I'm so proud of you - you've been barrelling away at this...plateau or whatever it is for a good long time. It's got to break sometime, dearest. I laughed aloud at your bit about the burning question (get it? GET IT???) about the cayenne and water cure. :p

Kaylets, congrats to you, too! Wow, the pounds are dropping like flies in here. I'm going to start bringing an umbrella. Thank you so much for sharing your pictures! You look just like what I pictured - bright, intelligent, affable, good with words - I got all that from just three pictures. :rolleyes: Really, though, your before/after thing is impressive. I'm really, really proud of you.

QOD: Oooh, boy, where do I start? Angel hair pasta with olive oil, garlic, onion and tomato, spicy avocado sushi rolls, white steamed rice, a bowl of pho, wok-seared tofu with spicy, salty tomato relish, and a nice seaweed/spinach/sesame/shallot salad. Dessert? Why, I'd love some, thank you! Some warm, luscious crême brulée, weak coffee and a palmier.

Can anyone spot the carb. addict in the above paragraph? Geesh, look at all that! I have lots of veggies in there, though. I have more exotic taste than I thought. Phew.

So, my bit of good news. The musician that called me up to hear his demo tape was indeed an infant, and unfortunately I didn't like what I heard on the tape. Just a lot of unimaginative rock/pop guitar - nothing I could really work with or that I necessarily wanted to be associated with. Yikes, hope I don't sound too snobbish - that's music, though, and I have to remember that these bands I'm calling are also getting auditioned by me. So, it was OK stuff but not my speed. I was sad and pretty disappointed, but glad that I had the personal strength to put up a healthy boundary and say no. You'd think I'd have taken it out of sheer desperation...

But the good news! Someone I had called up to answer an ad in the anti-paper called me last night. This band's lead singer is down with a double hernia and they need someone to pinch-hit for a New Year's party. I have 6 songs to learn for an audition tomorrow night! I'm so nervous it took the entire hour with my therapist to just get to a place where I was anticipating the audition instead of moaning about everything that could go very, very wrong...but I am happy to have this awesome opportunity to do just one gig with a rock band and see if I still like it. Yay! :hyper: The music is unassailably cool - Led Zepplin, Beatles, Eurhythimics, Speedball, etc. I'm scared to death and very excited. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks so much, dears, for your support through all this drama.


12-07-2004, 08:47 PM
Yea, :queen: E, that'd be good to put the exercise in the Foodwatch thread ... after all, exercise be only the obverse o' eating, n'est pas? :)

Viscountess, actually it IS damp and chilly here lately, but mayhap not so much as in other places ... we ARE verra blessed in our climate in Arizona ... unless one hates triple digit temps and if so they need to go elsewhere ... well, the winter visitors DO go elsewhere when it hits the triples ... anyhow, I like it here a lot.

Also, I'm not Eydie but I think a sugarplum is actually a sugared plum ... didn't they eat those in Victorian days or something?

Anyhow, I must away to the couch as I'm braindead. To all, mentioned and unmentioned, have a nice night.

12-07-2004, 09:25 PM
I always thought that a sugar plum was a prune. You know how those wacky Victorians threw all that dried fruit in plum puddings and all. I just read on the Blessed Internet that a sugar plum is sugared coriander----so when it's eaten you get a sweet taste with a spicy afterburn. Doesn't sound that good to me---definitely not worth dreaming about.

Speaking of dreams, I had the most pleasant little dream the other night. I dreamed that Dr. Phil and I were pals and we were making nachos! Hmmm. Wonder what deep dark meaning that holds? :o

12-07-2004, 09:56 PM
Sugared coriander?

Very odd!

I'm really going to take a nap now :queen: s ... just finished up and sprayed the portrait of my mom that I painted for my brother. I am taking it to the printer's tomorrow to have it scanned onto notecards and then I'll have it framed and will send him the cards and painting. It turned out well. I'm excited about it.

12-07-2004, 10:00 PM
Obviously, Eydie, you are on the verge of becoming sexually involved with Dr. Phil, since nachos are a strong symbol for coital relations in my opinion. Poor Garry.

Though, ummm, perhaps you shouldn't listen to me, since:

plain spaghetti=sex
steamed white rice=sex
wet white mozzarela=sex
almond toffee=sex
Lindor dark choc. truffles=sex
powdered Gatorade eaten with a spoon=sex
warm sourdough with real butter=sex
artichokes dipped in warm butter/lemon sauce=sex

At least, in my universe. And not the sweet, loving, adventurous spousal sex you have with your S.O., but the torrid, passionate, messy, poorly planned type of one-night-stand sex (not that I ever had any) that sort of grosses you out and that you fervently regret in the hours after. So, your dreams mean you're going to have sex with Dr. Phil but hate youself for doing it.

There, ladies. I have grossed you out, confused the **** out of you and overshared to a large degree all in ONE POST! I'm officially the weirdest person I know.

Oh, God, where IS the number for my therapist....

12-08-2004, 07:21 AM
Oh, Ladies, how I've enjoyed all these last posts. I must have deserted the computer early yesterday (well, that's always a goal) or missed that there was another page but I'm glad I had the time this early morning to read so many posts with so many opportunities to live vicariously. I'm still chuckling over the sex-y food list and wondering what my own would be.

You got that acerbic bit right, Cerise - of course it only lasted about five minutes. He always says he's not one of those lucky guys whose spouse stops talking to them. I'm not EVER able to stop talking.

Love the way your mind works, Empress. Yes, it would get me to the pool to shower as well if my water heater wasn't working. And I'm so impressed. Among your multitude of talents, I never knew painting was one.

Eydie, I knew sugar plums weren't really plums or prunes but a sweet. However, I never knew WHAT KIND of sweet. Not rushing out to try it either. (Aside - it felt really strange yesterdy in Wallyworld to be passing by so many things I'd have heaped in the cart in the past = nuts, candies, etc. - I haven't bought much the last several years but it really hit me yesterday. Saving a lot of money!)

Wildfire, I'm feeling that excitement all the way here in PA. Like I said, living vicariously, and inspiring me to enjoy my own home a bit more. And I'm sharing Cerise's excitement. I'd be terrified but then I don't have the great voice you do.

Life settling for you, Ceara? Somehow I picture you as a whirlwind as you do so much. DS settled down a bit too?

Weather should be a bit nicer today, Kaylets? My one bro does ebay a lot too and has been complaining about things not doing as well as he had expected based on his prior experiences.

Sending you special love, wsw, and missing you. I'm enjoying my predawn time this morning but must start slowing moving into the day.

12-08-2004, 07:39 AM
Cerise, you are too funny! :lol: It wasn't one of them nekkid dreams, for Gawd's sake. Yes, I'm totally grossed out, but have a strange craving for nachos....! ;)

Anagram, we're both up early! I know what you mean about by-passing all the goodies. It's very different for me too. In the past it's been really ahrd to pass by those holiday wrapped chocolates and such. Actually, it's very liberating, don't you think? I made a couple of fruitcakes that are mostly fruit and nuts and a bit of flour held together by a touch of honey. I hate fruitcake generally but this one was great. Of course it had none of those creepy neon 'fruits' in it, all real stuff.

Today's the first day of Victorian Christmas. And then after tomorrow night it'll be over. You probably thought that after all my whining about it it went for a couple of weeks, right? Okay, now I'm embarrassed! :o The truth is, it's fun and the time will fly by and then it'll be over. Only thing to watch for is the little kids that are coming and the pestilence they carry. Okay, that sounded harsh. What I meant was I hear there's a virus raging its way thru the elementary school community.

Okay, onward! Think "merry" thoughts, everybody! :D

12-08-2004, 08:33 AM
:o First thing in the morning!

I had an early night last night...again...but managed to keep my eyes open to the end of Judging Amy. Must of been the tea. I'm on drugs for the ear gash...which is quite fine thank you...and can't have wine. So I've taken advantage of that and used it for all it's wine for 1 1/2 weeks so far...not that I've been consciously making that a goal. I just haven't wanted it. Maybe this all has something to do with my attempts to lower my stress levels in more constructive ways. Must think on this.

Am still digesting the cortisol connection book. Have begun to religiously take a multi-vitamin (pronounced you guys talk in your head as you type?), along with green tea extract capsules. Am trying to find an herbal supplement called theamine {I think} which is supposed to act as a relaxant. Sleep wise not colon-wise.

I've gotta go back and look at the house picts...congrats Wildfire. Is this your first house? Doesn't really matter because each one is exciting. It is fun to plan and redecorate! (note to self...remember this when you are washing the glue off those walls upstairs).

Gotta run...have to take mid-heathen to vet for a possible cyst removal..and I want to pre-shave where they will be cutting...she is going to the international show in Chicago in Feb so they can't take much hair.

'Tis great to see all the are you wsw?

:wave: to all.......


12-08-2004, 09:01 AM
Wow! What a happenin' thread! I should have known that the echo-ey quiet in the palace wouldn't last. Yesterday I did a few extra things to try to cure my sinuses: kept a vaporizer going, started taking cayenne capsules (couldn't find enough info to make me feel like snuffling the stuff), did inhale green tea/saline. And I feel worse, but I think it may be just that things are "breaking up." We shall see. Now, if that's enough information about my sinuses :lol: I'll carry on!

Wildfire -- whooo-hooo!!! How exciting! When do you move? Bet you're already mentally arranging the furniture.

Amarantha, how brave of you to do without a water heater. Did you say that the water stays hot enough to bathe in? And what a commendable plan, to use the hot showers at the gym as a lure to get you there. Although, come to think of it, I usually like tepid showers in the summer here. However, now the temperature's usually well below freezing and I need HEAT :flame: Wish I could see your portrait of your mom!

Eydie, it is interesting living in this sugary environment, isn't it. DS just finished off the cinnamon rolls this morning. I made a double batch and didn't have a single bite :smug: I remember doing this before when I was losing, baking/buying treats for the fam and enjoying them vicariously. It's a little like immunization, so I can be surrounded by the stuff and not ingest it.

Ceara, yes, I just realized I do talk in my head as I type. VI-tamin, I say. :p Was all that supplement info in the cortisol book? I must do a little research on it, as soon as I win this battle with my sinuses.

Cerise, you ARE a funny girl! And I mean that in the best possible way -- all girls and boys should be funny, IMO. :yes: Want to hear something else funny? (Of course you do!) I think of associating food with sex as healthy. Now for me, I think that food is my mummy and that's why it's so handy as comfort. However, sometimes one gets full and still is not comforted despite consuming mass quantities. Trying to give that up. That's so cool that you're auditioning -- can't wait to hear about it!

Anagram, it is a real treat to see the thread hoppin' along, isn't it. Of course, I should be working, but socializing is nec. too, right? You sound like you're back on your usual even keel.

K -- off to work I go. Let's make this a good one! Love to all, mentioned or un-

12-08-2004, 11:21 AM
Well, thanks entirely to the Foodwatch Club thread, my weight is down today. I'm going to always allow for an official Wednesday weigh-in UNLESS I like the Sunday one! I need all the positive reinforcement I can get! It's really helping being back here full-time and logging my menus!!! Thanks again to :queen: s E & K who are posting there as well ... please join us ... it'd be fun to have that lil ol' club go on forever! Journaling alone is not as fun, IMO!

Sorry to be always lobbying for new ventures! :p

:queen: E, thy post reminded me to have a better attitude about the Christmas stuff I have to do this week ... especially the light parade and festival out in the COLD ... it'll all be over soon, thou be right! I'm going to stay with the logging and not let this be an excuse to gain weight!

Yea, Arabella, the water is hot enough to bathe in most of the year ... in newer houses, though, that doesn't work ... but the older pipes get quite hot in the heat.

Hmmm, Cerise ... my thoughts exactly!

Ceara, I need to get that book. Also, I don't know if it works for cortisol, but I swear by the B vitamins, especially sublinguial B12 taken several times a day, for mood and energy ... when I do this, I am much more in control of food, stress, everything ... I do actually exceed the package instructions for dosage, but B vits aren't toxic, that I know of, nor illegal ...

Anagramatic: I'm going to think of thee when I brave the Wally World candyrama today ... where do we get this idea that we HAVE to have all that stuff they put out ... it's not good for our bodies or minds ... I'm keeping Supersize Me in mind today, too. Junk food is everywhere ...

Because of some physical situations (more dental surgery), I can't really eat raw produce right now but I need to do better in thinking up ways to get more vege in ... again, the Foodwatch Club is going to help me ...

Eydie, I didn't make an hour of exercise yesterday, but will also post exercise on the food log thread ... good idea!

Seems like I'm doing another me-me postie as everything I say seems to revert to MOI!!! But anyhow, have a good day, :queen: s!!!!!! To all, M&UM (Mentioned and Unmentioned), SIS BOOM AND BAH!!!! We're heading into the best year ever (and we WILL all reach our goals AND I will be 135 pounds by 2006 ... honest, I will)!!!

12-08-2004, 12:16 PM
Hello all!

Whew! Glad I'm home today to be able to catch all the posts!

Wildfire! YEA!! Very kewl! So glad things are moving along so quickly!
You are due for some good fortune!! Will it add to your travel/commute time?
Does it put you in a different school district??

Empress! I too, am very impressed with your painting! Like singing, painting has always been a talent I admired and wished I had....

Eydie! I need your advice! I didnt realize how tough getting to goal really is!
Remind me please how long it took you to get thru the last 10 lbs... I know you are a few years younger than I and there are other factors to consider but I really feel like I have come to a place on the road that I need a new map and a guide too! I don't know why I thought it would just fall off!
And PS, regarding Dr Phil, I think his wife would be knocking on your
door saying "Nach w/ my husband!" ...

Anagram! Yes, it makes sense that Ebay would become too big but it sure was not what I wanted to see!! Sure hope this doesnt mean there won't be any reason to yardsale!!
:) !!

Ceara! Glad the ear is healing... What did I miss about Toddler time??
Is it true you manage one?

Wood Nymph!Yes, it is worthwhile... and no, you don't want to have to start all over again later either...yes, time does move slowly when we are watching the scale BUT... don't forget...... the time is going to pass anyway...If you're like me, you don't want to be wishing come March 05 that you still weighed what you do today because you gained.... and if we're lucky, both of us will see a loss by March 05!!
Don't forget, when we don't fell well, we (me at least!) are more apt to crave/need comfort food and because we don't feel well, find it harder to resist....
Here's a "take a long lunch card" and maybe you can sneak a short nap in...
Tell them ALL I said so....

WSW! How are you ? Hope you are catching all the greetings from all of us... you are being sent love and warm salutations across the miles....

Cerise! 1st of all, good for you passing up on the first band, gut feelings are important..... the NY's eve opportunity sounds great! How exciting... AND you know you have to be open to using this audition for whatever lesson there might be coming with it.... even if its only for practice... Breathe... breathe.. breathe... stretch... stretch... stretch...
And btw, you really do know how to get over the speed bumps....just take it nice and slow... you know if you put your pedal to the metal you're only going to bottom out....
I suspect you've already made your list, you know what you have to do to learn those songs... you know what you want to wear... ( You BETTER SAY SOMETHING YOU LOVE THAT'S COMFORTABLE ) and keep posting...stay w/ us... we are all rooting for you... in fact, I am signing a proclamation now that all the royal subjects must send good vibes your way... so you will feel prepared, look ravishing and knock them dead!

SeeCat! Tell us more, more, more! Need details! Really, how are you??

Thought of the day :

"None of us suddenly becomes something overnight. The preparations have been
in the making for a lifetime."
---Gail Godwin

Question of the day :

"When is the last time you went to the library?"



12-08-2004, 01:04 PM
Ok, I just alughed out lound about the Dr. Phil dream and then I laughed even louder about the food=sex post. Fortunately my boss, who has an office right across the hall from mine, is not in right now.

I started journaling again today after a week long hiatus. It is really the only thing that keeps me on track. When I journal I know what I am eating and how much I am eating. I also do the WW point tracking when I journal. It is the one thing that has helped me lose weight. I know that I am an indifferent exerciser at best and plan to be better about it in the future, but seriously, if I do not write things down I do not lose weight.

Speaking of exercising, did anyone else out there watch any of the Ironman triathalon that was on about a week ago? Did anyone else get all emotionally involved and start thinking "wow I would love to do that". I then realized that I would die on the swimming portion alone, make it about a fifth of the biking portion and then save myself the bother of having to buy running shoes becuase , well seriously, a marathon? I think I might be running in a 5k this spring through. Hey, it ain't the ironman, but it seems ambitious to me right now.

For whoever asked, I live in Minneapolis, MN. For those of you who know Minneapolis, I live in Northeast, or as it is known here Nordeast. It is coldish here, but not as cold as it supposed to be this time of year. And all of our snow left us. We are supposed to get more later this week. If we haev a brown christmas I will be really bumbed out.

QOD: I was in the library for work about two weeks ago. I tend to be a book buyer, which is not fiscally responsible but o so fun. Incidently I got the trivial pursuit book lovers edition for my mother for her birthday and it is really really hard. Super hard. You should check it out. I did well of the childerns lit and the classics and okish of authors adn nonfiction, but there are two categories, book bag and book club. that I did not know a thing about.

Well, back to work.


12-08-2004, 01:07 PM
QOD..every bloody day! I have the scars!



12-09-2004, 01:36 AM
[color=blue]Seecat, do you have the Flexpoints tracker? I love that thing ... have two but don't do points anymore. I assume you have that but if not, you're welcome to my extra one ... I won't go back to points.

I always thought I'd love to do a triathalon, but upon reflection it occurs to me that I can't swim and would drown.

Very excited about the portrait (sorry, repeating myself) ... they've scanned it and the cards should be ready tomorrow or the next day ... got lots of compliments on it ...

Well, brain-dead ... must go to bed.

QOD: Yesterday ...

12-09-2004, 01:37 AM
I am not going to close that code ...

12-09-2004, 07:15 AM
Up way too early again today. Sigh....Good day yesterday but food not low enough that I'll lose anything. Empress, do you mean the code on that IBS popup? Tres annoying, no? I'd love to be the kind of person who could do a triathlon. Doesn't mean I'd do it, just would like to be that kind of person. Did I mention DIL did Marine Corps Marathon again this year? Sigh....Hmmm, I don't even know if she swims. I do know she runs and bikes so those parts of the triathalon she has down real pat. But I don't want to ask or next thing I know, she'll be training for a triathalon. She has DS running too but he says he doesn't have a death wish and so will not try marathons. He does "halfs" with her though. And that's pretty good for the couch potato I raised.

Well, morning beckons. Appt that will take most of the morning and then another in the middle of the afternoon. Not much "Christmas" will get done today.....but tomorrow is a dinner dance (a turkey dinner so won't have lots and lots of goodies to reject - or try to).

12-09-2004, 08:30 AM
One night of Victorian Christmas down! I have to leave soon and probably won't be home till 10:30 tonight. I'll wear my play clothes for the first part of the day and will try to sneak away and get in some Pilates today---that's the plan, if it happens, it happens.

Kaylets, about losing those last 10 pounds. I guess I had to find the old 'fire in the belly' and started yet more experimentation. I started counting calories for real and kept exercising, of course. I was able to lose 14 pounds in 4 months that way, and now that I've reduced sugar I've lost 5 more pounds. And all the time, journaling it all. [SeeCat, journaling is the BEST! :) ]
I've never been on any plan where 'the pounds just melted away'. I really HATE hearing that expression---I don't believe it happens in real life!
This last [or latest] leg of my journey has been about finding food that truly satisfies me and comforts me, not the illusion of comfort that I got from sweets. Oh I could go on and on....!
BTW, current weight is 132 pounds-----and as always nobody's more amazed than me!

Gotta go pack my food for the day! Last night as I was putting out the fudge and cookies for the reception it would've been so easy to eat up all those little broken bits, and the impulse was there, I admit, but only from habit, no real craving.

12-09-2004, 08:42 AM
I think the code was for /color. I do that too. Anagram why are you up so early......I usually do that when something is bothering me. It can't be the light...boy is it dark at 6:30!

Cerise! How did the audition go? :hyper: I've been waiting and waiting......

Actually I say vitamin the way you do Arabella, but I think it the other way.......hmmm. And yes they are in that book. I should take a multi anyway......I always have them I just don't take 'em. I dislike pills.

Toddlertime is a story time for 2 year olds and their babies in baskets. I have up to 10 kidlets with parents, grandparents, babysitters, and sibs, or other children in the caregivers' care. It can get a little snuggish, but we do have fun. The programme is about a half hour long...we do lots of little songs, fingerplays, puppets and 3 books/ programme. I like doing instruments...usually the sticks, but yesterday we did bells...for Christmas you know.

Lost at weigh-in last night. Celebrated with 2 cookies and some pop-corn. Feel loggy this am....Sugar..the evil :devil: May try for a walk later, the sun is supposed to be abnormality these days!

I am either going to wash walls, clean for the tree, or go to town...maybe I can do a bit of the first 2 and still do the last. Oh yes...should wash that dog too...she has chalk in her legs.

Have a great day :queen:s.

Wsw! :wave:



12-09-2004, 09:12 PM
Hello, darlings.

This is a me-me fly-by since I'm tired and...tired. Wanna go home and be with The Ramon.

But I don't want you to stay in suspense - I got the gig! The band liked me. Despite some trouble hearing myself (they're loud) and some mistakes I did OK, had a really "game" attitude and jammed with them for a couple of hours. They're these sweet, pudgy sort of 40-year-old suburbanite family men, and I'm already terribly fond of them. They're not educated musicians, but I can still learn from them and they sound pretty good. I've told them that nothing's guaranteed after New Year's (with regards to my staying on as a vocalist), but that I'll for sure do the party with them and then we'll see.

Anyway, thanks for your wonderful support of what I'm trying to do. It means so much to me just to read about all of your lovely lives and to know that you care about mine, too.

Much love, and sorry for the (unnatural) brevity.

12-10-2004, 04:31 AM
Well, this is unusual. I woke up at about 2 and couldn't get back to sleep. Maybe because I went back to bed this morning and slept until 8:30 (we get up at 5:30 usually -- yes, it's harsh!). I'm (I think) recovering. Found at least one more reference to snuffling chili pepper water, so I (cautiously) tried it yesterday. I think it worked, not an immediate cure, but I could definitely feel it in my sinuses and things seem to be breaking up. Just used a tiny bit -- maybe an eighth of a teaspoon in 8 oz. of water. Perhaps if I'd used more I would have seen God. Hope this is completely gone soon. I had fever/chills the night before last and now have that wobbly post-fever feeling. May take the laptop to bed and work from there today. I thought I might be well enough to go to the gym, but I don't know.

Kaylets, you're absolutely right -- I don't want to wake up from a self-induced coma in March, 20 pounds heavier and wondering how it happened. I'm working to keep Monday's weigh-in in mind. There's our family Christmas party on Sunday and I vow to stay on plan! One sister is taking a veggie tray. I think I'll take mussels. So there's two good things. Must stay dedicated!

Ceara, that's so funny that you say vitamin one way and say it in your head another. I've known some Brits that said it that way -- were you British in another life? I think there are some words I do that with too :chin:

Cerise, :cp: :cp: How Cool! Oh, I wish we could all be there to see and hear you on New Year's Eve. Did you have to confer with TR (The Ramon) over this? I would never get away with doing anything separately on New Year's Eve, but then it is my anniversary too...

Eydie, I did have a time where weight seemed to just melt away. It was a non-diet, though, really. Following some book that I never seem to be able to remember the name of, I just started eating only when I was hungry and only enough to satisfy. No restrictions on what I could have, but trying to eat healthily. And I found that when I'm hungry I want healthy stuff. You trained yourself not to think about food when you weren't hungry and to NEVER think nasty thoughts about being fat. I lost about 60 pounds in 6 months, not really melting away, I guess, but it felt like that. Of course, those good habits fell by the wayside and here I am again. Ah well... onward!

SeeCat, I ran a couple of 5ks, one last summer and one in October. My first ever! I had been running (or what I call "running" :rolleyes: ) three times a week. I think I'm going to skate through the winter, though. I'm not sure I have the gumption to run on snowy/icy roads any more.

Anagram, I'd love to be fit enough to do a triathlon and competent in all three sports, but -- no, no desire ever to do a marathon, let alone a triathlon. I remember someone talking about marathons and training for same being so arduous that they actually took years off one's life. I'd like to be able to do 10k (six miles) comfortably, and think that's an achievable goal.

Amarantha, I keep thinking about your portrait -- have you thought about taking your art seriously as a career? It sounds as if it could be feasible!

Ok. Hi ho hi ho. Have a terrific Friday, all. Love!

12-10-2004, 07:56 AM
Hello all!

Cerise! I am so excited for you!! THIS is a GOOD thing... in more ways than one! You MADE it thru the audition, you made mistakes but are ok with them, ( and you should be, perfection isnt ever going to happen for any of us!) AND you got the job AND you are meeting folks in your area in your FIELD OF INTEREST!!! Am so excited for you!

Wish I could stay longer but am out the door... raining and dark so I need to allow extra time...

Does seem as though the wheel is turning for new things for all of us....
Or perhaps its beccause we are really getting out there and PUSHING it...

sorry couldnt be more personal this am...

Thought of the day :

"Start by doing what's necessary, then
what's possible, and suddenly you are
doing the impossible!"
-- Saint Francis of Assisi

Question of the day :

"Would you rather have good looks or good sense of humor?"

Love to all!

12-10-2004, 02:26 PM
QOD: Good sense of humor. Hands-down. No question. Ab-so-freakin'-lutely. You even have to ASK? Who wants to be a *****y little hoochie-mama in cute clothes and frosty lipstick that everyone hates? I'd rather make people laugh...

12-10-2004, 08:33 PM

The house inspection held no surprises. We signed the waiver, so it's technically ours now! Still have to have a lawyer do a title search, then sit and wait for February 18th.

Sorry my head's been all wrapped up in this. I've been lurking but generally too tired to fomat a reply. Like I am now.

Have to congratulate Cerise, though!!! You go, girl! WE never had any doubt about your talent, and it's tres cool you will be sharing it with others!

Will catch up this weekend. :wave:

12-11-2004, 02:11 AM
Oh, my God. You guys are not going to believe this, but I just called and turned that band down. They sent me a couple of CDs today with at least 75% of the songs being stuff I didn't know and hadn't even heard of and didn't particularly like. I called Michael, the sort of leader, to ask him exactly how many songs I was supposed to learn and he said we were doing 29 songs at the party. 29 SONGS! In three weeks! When I wigged out a little bit, he started placating me by saying stuff like I wouldn't have to perform all of them, and most cover bands do at least that many per concert (I know from experience that that's an exaggeration). He said we'd work it out at our rehearsal Sunday and signed off with me. After an entire day, an ENTIRE DAY of privately panicking at work and then an evening of crying all over Poor Ramon about my cowardice and laziness and selfishness and grappling with the undeniable fact that I did not want to do this concert, I finally called him and left him a message saying that I was not going to do the gig and could he please call me.

I'm in total anguish. Part of me is so relieved that I'm listening to my desires and not doing something I don't want to do, but you know there's that part of me that says that every decision I make is unworthy, cowardly and selfish, since I'm consistently motivated by greed, selfishness and laziness...that's how I felt in trying to deal with my extreme aversion to the gig and my deep feelings of obligation to the band, the universe (since I Put Myself Out There and am now trying to Take Myself Back) and even my co-workers, who were all saying that I should just take the gig - it's only one concert, after all, and you'll be PERFORMING AGAIN. But it's too much hard work on music I don't even like.

Anyway, I'm going through a tough time philosophically with this, a really hard time, never mind that I'm disappointing and possibly really hurting four people who were kind to me, liked my singing and shared their beer and rehearsal time.

Please tell me I'm not a monster. I can't seem to get out of this pit I put myself into. Please tell me you understand...

12-11-2004, 02:12 AM
Wildfire, I am really and truly very, very happy for you. I love the look of your house, darling. I'm so glad this has worked out for you. You deserve it - you've been waiting for it for so long.

Want some help moving? :)

12-11-2004, 07:19 AM
Cerise, you're not a monster. You'd have to try a LOT harder to achieve monsterhood. Have you thought about going to the meeting Sunday where it'll all be "worked out"? Maybe break down the reasons why it's so scary for you. For example: is it scary because you feel like you'll be working so hard on this you'll 'miss' Christmas?
We've all had this experience. Of how can I be so excited about something one day and the next be completely freaked out about it and not want any part of it. It's strange, and the mind can be very tricky.
I know you're truly in pain over this. Whatever you decide you're not a monster, just magnificently human!
How are you feeling today?

Wildfire, Glad the inspection went well! When do you move in?

12-11-2004, 09:49 AM
Yo! Compressing responses as am late again to leave for work! Re code, yea, I meanteth the close color vb code ... I don't even see the popups ... paid the subscription fee again to be ad free!!! :cb:

Om shanti, Cerise~! Please do not say thou art a monster ... thou art so far from being a monster it is amazing that thought would even be in thy poor head!!! Please, Cerise, LISTEN TO YOUR INSTINCT ... your instinct is screaming at you that for whatever reason this band or gig or whatever is NOT RIGHT FOR YOU TO DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME ... that aversion feeling you are having is the universe pointing you in the direction you should go ... you are NOT disappointing anyone or doing anything wrong ... you are wisely deciding not to put your energies into something that isn't what you want to do ... you are listening to the universe ... you are listening to your own spirit ... if more people did that, there'd be less pain in the world and more peace and prosperity ... YOU WILL FIND YOUR PATH, CERISE! Never doubt it. Don't EVER let anyone make you feel you should substitute their judgement for your own. Trust your gut ... it's telling you what's right for you.

:queen: s, I gotta go! Will be back later to log onto the foodwatch thread ...

12-11-2004, 10:58 AM
Cerise, luv...29 SONGS???? IN THREE WEEKS????? What are they, insane??? Good gawd...if it was music you were familiar with and had to learn 4 or 5, then I'd be saying "do it", but how could you possibly learn that many songs in such a short time? No, as much as I think it is fabulous you are exploring performing again, I have to say that I think this is not the right starting point for you. You CAN say no. It's not like you are backing out two days before the gig. They JUST found you, they can call one of the others that answered their ad. You don't need the added stress right now when you are just getting back into your positive swing. There will be other bands, other gigs, and you will have your place under the spotlight.

If you really, really want to perform with this band, perhaps you could offer to do a few songs as a "guest performer" for that night?

Go with your gut.

Thank you both, Cerise and Eydie, regarding the house. We got to go through it really well yesterday, and I love it even more now! It feels like home, even though it's still filled with all their stuff. Good vibes in there. I was thrilled to see the "SOLD" sign on the ad. Eydie, we take possession on February 18th, which is a Friday. I'm thinking we'll book movers for maybe the 21st/22nd (Mon/Tues) because I'm taking that week off work to move. I'll give notice on the apartment on January 1st, and it's 60 days, so we'll have until the end of February to clear out. It should give us lots of time, no rushing to get out because the new tenants are parked outside in the moving van.

Need coffee.

12-11-2004, 11:09 AM
HEllo all!

Been up for awhile but have been cooking and doing laundry... DH's work schedule suddenly has him very busy so I am trying to stay on pace w/ him and make sure healthy meals remain the rule. Since these extra hours at his job couldnt have come at a better time, we are hoping to take full advantage. He needs to pace himself and make sure he gets enough rest and doesnt start eating out of the vending machines ....

Cerise--Seems like a lot of songs to learn even if you listened nonstop to the Cd's.... Doesnt seem like there'd be much rehersal time either...
But on the other side of it, the band is probably just looking to get thru their NY's committment and weren't expecting anything close to perfection....
Does seem very daunting to learn 27 songs in less than that many days....
I don't know what I would do..... when you're giving a speech you can edit at will, you usually don't have others to consider .....
And as for going out there...... remember in "Finding Nemo" how the Ellen fish keeps saying " Keep Swimming"..... well.....just get to a more shallow spot of the ocean, my dear.... you remind me of me, Cannonballing off the high board and then winding up in such deep water I panic and wind up only wanting to get back out of the water as fast as possible.....

Its no big deal if you don't do the NY's job... You've still given them enough notice... Eydie has a good suggestion though.... perhaps you can still work something out w/ them... OR maybe not for NY's but in the future.....

Just keep swimming....

Which reminds me, I need a shower....


12-11-2004, 11:18 AM
Wildfire! We post together! And I too join in congratulating you on the house!
I do envy you.... you'll have lots of motivation to sort, toss, toss.....

SO... is this closer to your job? DH's job? Change in school district for DD?

As I said recently, don't know if more positive energy is flowing or if because we are using more energy positively are we seeing positve results??

Have to post Ceara's email... so cute... AND TRUE!


Subject: 2 letter word

>So a 2 letter word has a hundred completely different meanings. So what is this stuff about English being easy?

There is a two-letter word that perhaps has more meaning than any other two-letter word, and that is "UP."

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we waken in the morning, why do we wake UP?

At a meeting, why does a topic come UP? Why do we speak UP and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report?

We call UP our friends And we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver, we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car.

At other times the little word has real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses.

To be dressed is one thing but to be dressed UP is special.

And this UP is confusing:

A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP.

We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night.

We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP!

To be knowledgeable of the proper uses of UP, look UP the word in the dictionary.. In a desk size dictionary, the word up, takes UP almost 1/4th the page and definitions add UP to about thirty.

If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more.

When it threatens to rain, we say it is
clouding UP . When the sun comes out we say
it is clearing UP.

When it rains, it wets UP the earth. When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP.

One could go on and on, but I'll wrap it UP,
for now my time is UP, so.............

I'll shut UP


12-11-2004, 04:57 PM
Wildfire ... I'd also like to join in the chorus of congrats about the new house ... bet you can't wait until February!!!!

12-11-2004, 05:00 PM
:queen: s ... wasn't there an astronomer on PBS who used to say: "Keep looking UP" ... let's do that ... thanks for the UPDATE on UP, :queen: C (vial :queen: K)!

Eating too much again today ... will post it ALL on the FW thread ...

12-11-2004, 08:51 PM
Thank you all for your rational, sane support of this rather embarrassed royal. It's all I can do not to go back and edit that last post because of its sheer...melodrama, but I'm keeping it there for posterity. I've had a lot of help today, dealing with the mental and philosophical backlash of my decision. Ramon talked me back to relative mental health last night and gave me his sincerest, most honest feedback, my brother listened to my troubles today and told me his advice about handling this situation with integrity, and, last but not least....(drumroll, please)...I have experienced a Royal Intervention from none other than Queen Kaylets herself! We talked on the phone for 2 hours and 20 minutes, and the world is an OK place to be again as a result. Thank you again and again, my dear friend, for the shoulder to whine on. I needed to hear a friend so badly, and though my brother and husband certainly qualify, they're still family and are therefore under an obligation to love me no matter what.

Ladies, Kaylets is as wonderful to talk to as she is to read. I now provide proof positive (or, at least an emphatic opinion) that she's the best of the best. You cannot find a steadier, kinder, more loyal, logical, rational and helpful mentor and companion anywhere.

All right - update. I left a message last night with the band leader saying that I wanted him to call me but I wanted to prepare him, so I said that I was sorry but that I wasn't doing the concert. Absolutely not. Today he left a message asking that I call him. My courage gave out - I could not call him back, because I feared he would first try to change my mind and then would - well, God knows what he'd have to say about the whole thing when I steadfastly refused to continue. So I called my brother and told him the sordid tale. He pointed out a few things: 1. I should have been more professional, thicker-skinned. I should have left after the 1/2 hour audition instead of jamming and bonding with the band. I should have remembered that I was auditioning the band as well, not only their abilities but also their attitudes and the material they'd chosen. 2. I did not do wrong to turn them down after a few days of contemplation, and turning them down on the basis of their choice of songs was totally OK. 3. He said that I must call back the leader as a matter of courtesy and integrity, but that I had no obligation to him or the band to engage in any sort of push-pull conversation about the whys and wherefores of my decision. 4. Giving up this gig was perfectly right (especially since it was for free). Giving up on performing altogether would now be an act of cowardice and waste. He doesn't pull any punches, my Nathan. He says I want people to like me so much that when they DO indicate that they like me, I'm so thrilled that I go off my head and feel much, much too obligated to them as a result. Any takers?

So. I called Michael back (band leader) and (grrr!) got his voice mail, so I left a message giving him my reasons for turning the gig down. While I was talking to beloved Q. Kaylets, he left another message on MY phone saying "I'm sorry I missed your call, please call me back." I'm not sure I can. Is he even listening to his messages? Should I call him back again?

So, my conclusion is that I didn't tear the universe in two, committed no crime. However, I should have taken the professional nature of the audition much more seriously. I should have not engaged myself emotionally with the band until everything was finalized. Professionally I did no wrong. Personally I made a bit of a mess.

Eydie, your advice was so good - unfortunately at this point I don't have the fortitude to engage myself further with these four men when I have no intention of doing this gig or any other with them. I wish I were more like you right now. You'd have handled this whole thing a lot better - thank you for your kindness. You, too, Wildfire and Empress. I've learned so much just from reading your wise advice. I feel like this thread has used up a great deal of mental and emotional energy on my silly little problem and I'm beyond grateful. Empress, your words were so heartening, and SO against everything I was raised with in my childhood. That was a "suck-it-up", "make yourself do it, dammit" kind of world and I'm glad to hear someone as mature and intelligent as you saying otherwise. Not to imply that I think you don't suck it up and make yourself do things you'd rather not do, but not unnecessarily, I don't think, like I tend to do. Or, at least I tend to try to do those things and then beat myself black and blue when I fail. Such a waste, I think. My therapist's going to have a field day with this...

All right. Enough. I think we've all agonized over this sufficiently.

Love and heartfelt thanks to you all,

12-11-2004, 10:16 PM
Om shanti, C!!! :wave: Glad you had a chance to talk with :queen: K and that you have such a supportive brother and dh ... truly, I think you're handling this well and your brother is right that you don't have any further obligation to the band or the leader ... you did call him out of courtesy and you don't have to explain yourself or your reasons for your decisions to ANYONE!

Hmmm. Just deleted a long graph here about how I also find myself in the position of constantly doing what I don't want to do ... I only deleted it because it revealed details about me that might identify me to certain people who know about this forum ... but I'm so fed up with some things that are going on in my working life ... so naturally I ate a lot of junk food today ... why do I think this helps? :doh: Oh well, will log it in the food watch thread in a sec ...

Tomorrow is another day, Scarlett!

My painting of my mom is coming back to me this week with the cards I had made from it ... can't wait to get it off to my brother. I just finished another painting ... it started out as a stylish study of a young woman in a blue dress with nice blonde hair and I called it "Blue Girl" ... hmmm, but somehow it turned into "Blue Goddess" (hmmm, maybe I'll do Green Goddess next, except that's a salad dressing) ... anyhow, the blue goddess is wild and frenzied with blue white smoky Medusa-like hair floating off into space ... how did this happen?

Oh well, I'm not making a lot of sense. Will go watch old Andy Griffith shows and fall asleep ... life was much simpler back then ... well, maybe not.

Everything was in black and white in Mayberry, though. Andy, Opie, Barney, Aunt Bee, Malcom the butler, Miss Crump the teacher, the barber shop, the jail with doilies, the butcher shop, the sheriff's kitchen, the patrol car ... all black and white ... not a speck o' color.

I think that'd be nice and restful.

No color in the whole world except shades of black and shades of white.

I really need a nap or a donut. I think I am cranky.

12-12-2004, 08:11 AM
Hello all !

Time for us to move to a new "piece of the road"... we're getting very long....
I am visualizing all of us w/ our entourages, moving slowly as we are awaiting the scout's report.....
we do look lovely!!

Welcome to PART III of the Amazing Royal Adventure- Year End....

See you there!