PCOS/Insulin Resistance Support - PCOS Monthly Chat Thread For November 2004

Hi Girls!!!!!!!!!! :encore:

Time to fire up a new chat thread for November. So let's post away and make each others day. :D

How was everyones Pumpkin Day??? I had a fun day!! I cleaned up the garage for about 5 hours. I have been trying to find my old happy meal toys and other toys I had still in bags to pass out the kids for a month but couldn't find them. I FINALLY found them today and weeded out boys and girls ones and threw them in some bins and then mixed up another bin full of all kinds of the different chocolates & toostie pops, plus had another bin of spongebob squarepants figurines, and then some miscellaneous hallweeny type of stuffed animals.

The kids that came thought they hit a jackpot!! And it was so nice to get rid of it all!! I can park the car in the garage again! :lol:

While hub managed the trick or treat station, I went to visit some of the neighbors. It's always nice to chat and keep in touch with them. Beats having a stranger for a neighbor. ;)

My doctor called me Friday night...a personal house call!!! I wasn't here but she left a message. The ovaries MUST come out ASAP. I guess they found something in another blood test that they did and so she wants me to do it before January. Blah... So now I have to call my Gyn/surgeon tomorrow and schedule a pre-surgical appt. They should of just taken them OUT last June 2003 when I had my hysterectomy. Oh well... I'll keep you posted as to when I am going to get it done.

Well, time to go relax!! :comp: Write back girls!!! :write: Lemme know how you are! :grouphug:

Ooh, sorry about the blood tests. My sister Amy is 'can't wait' status also. She's having hers on Dec 9th, along with a tummy tuck while she's on the table. Good luck!

Hi Chickies!!

Hope everyone had a great Halloween without too much candy bingeing. Personally, I ended up giving out fistfuls of candy to our trick-or-treaters so that I wouldn't have anything left to tempt me. I think I've done well with avoiding the candy this year. I only had 1 sucker, 1 lil box of grape nerds, and 2 pieces of gum. (As opposed to last year's mound of chocolate!)

Noodles - Sorry to hear about the ovaries having to come out! Seems like so many of us are going in for surgery these days. :-\

Have a happy Monday everyone!
Cheers,
Cass

Hey! We don't do Halloween around our house, but DH told the girls he would get them a little candy for a treat b/c they do know that at H-ween kids get candy & he came home with 3 BIG bags of candy that I like. Okay, really there is very little candy I don't like :lol: but... After the girls each getting 2 pieces & me eating 2 I told him he had to take it to work & could bring the girls home 1 piece each in the evening. I *know* I would have been shoveling that stuff in my mouth to feed my stress about packing to move, or whatever reason I could come up with. :rolleyes: Glad that candy day is over with, now to prepare for Thanksgiving! ;) Oh a good note I walked on the treadmill today for 20 minutes even though I tripped & fell while vaccuming this weekend & mildly twisted my ankle, my knee & bruised my shin & hands. :dizzy: It wasn't too bad even with the aches & pains. I allowed myself to watch tv while walking & usually I try to multi-task & catch up on some reading I need to do. The tv was better for me. Anyhoo, now that everyone is beginning to get this picture of me as a clutzy, candy addict I'd better go do some laundry that I hear calling my name. :D
ETA: Noodles, *sorry* about your upcoming surgery!

Well... Here it is November. I spent yesterday stomping around DC. I took the Metro in and walked the streets in search of the American Red Cross National Headquarters. I did eventually find it ... then walked all the way back to the Metro. We drove in today instead of taking the Metro. And got a parking ticket for our pains. :shrug: National Headquarters had a kick-off event for Youth Leadership Month, and I took 4 students. It was lots of fun, actually. The ticket is annoying, though, since we stuffed the meter for 2 hours, and it was after 10:00 a.m. when we got to the Red Cross. Went back at 12:04, and the lady is already writing the ticket! It was still flashing, and the other adult with me was running up the street to put more money in the meter. Erk. Oh well.
I was so proud of my kids though. They comported themselves beautifully, and one of them even got enough courage to contribute to the group discussion in front of everybody. I have some nice pictures, too. I'm usually proud of my students, but when they do so well in public... and remember, my students are allegedly with me because their public schools couldn't educate them. Nobody knew that our kids were "special" until my student told what school she was from.
:)
I'm also off to a good start for exercise this month: because of the walking yesterday and today, I skipped my weights tonight. I did, however, swim a mile. Halloween was here and gone: I wasn't home yesterday because of the need to be in DC and find out where we were going, so I put the candy I bought for the kids in my building (secure apartment building, so only residents trick or treated) outside my door. I know some kids got the tootsie rolls and starburst, because the woman at the front desk told me her son was so excited to see tootsie rolls... but ALL my candy was gone, with the bag... when I got home. Which is just fine with me: I purposefully bought Starburst and Tootsie Rolls, because I don't care for either very much, and my students love both. And they are okay to give the kids because its small doses.
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Hey gals! Quick question for those who feel like answering - what do you do when you feel the urge to eat emotionally (if you are one of those people - I am)? Today I've been quite down, partly hormonal & partly some sad news about a member of an internet homeschool group I participate in. I am an emotional person, I cry easily (I'm one of those that cries at happy/sad/funny commericals, etc.) I know that I tend to use food to fill that sad feeling sometimes & I was hoping someone out there in cyber-land might have some hints on this topic.

Hi Michelle, I used to have a terrible time with emotional eating. I was in an unhappy marriage and eating consoled me. I still fight that urge on a regular basis, but I manage to beat it about 95% of the time. Usually I drink sugar free lattes, or hot tea, or I exercise if I have it in me. If I'm worried, I just can't focus on exercise. If I'm sad or depressed then I manage it better. The good thing about the exercise is that I ALWAYS feel better when I'm done. The adrenaline always knocks out the negative mood, plus the last thing I want to do after a hard, sweaty workout is eat!

Hi!! :wave:

Sorry I haven't posted in a few days...I just haven't been feeling 100% and nothing exciting is really happening so I figured I'd keep my fingers to myself. :lol: It's so nice to see all of you posting though! Keep it up!!! :yes:

I spoke with my doctor directly on Monday. She said she consulted with 2 other doctors and showed them my lab work and they both agreed the ovaries NEED to come out ASAP. So...there goes my waiting until January. :( The good news is I've already reached my max for deductibles and out-of-pockets so it will be all paid for. Phew!! I just DREAD another hospital stay though...:dz: Can't get any sleep with them poking you all of the time, coming in and making racket, running that floor cleaner at 4 AM, UGH!! 5-7 days of that and I'll be ready to climb the walls!! :p Anyhow, I have an appointment next week with my GYN who did my hysterectomy and we'll make the surgery appt. then.

Jennifer, when you had yours out, how long were you in the hospital?? And how long do you figure it took for you to completely heal up??

Mamato2: When I get that urge...I try to eat healthy. I load up on fresh fruits and veggies and munch on them. When I need something sweet, I suck on tootsie pops or fireballs. Keeps my mouth sweet and it really does take away the sweet tooth craving. :D

Mousie: You might of ran into my in-laws! They are in Washington DC right now & have been for over a week. Doing the "travel back east' thing in their motor home. They are whining about how expensive everything is back east. :lol:

Rumple: I sneaked some candy too...It's hard when your favorites are right there!! The good part is they are all small sizes so I don't eat the same size a s a giant candy bar. Well...unless I eat like 5 of the small size; but I have pretty good self control. :hyper:

Type at all of ya later...:grouphug:

I dunno, Noodles. ;) By the time I was done Sunday I wasn't looking for anything, and Monday I was so rushed to get the kids back...
Today we had a farewell luncheon for the department chair: she's going back to industry. I'm of two minds, because she's a pain to deal with and she's not as good of a teacher as I thought she was. But, she had some good points. She did try, I think she just got tired of the BS we put up with... that, and she put on a show for admin.
I did however get together a selection of different tea (I think she may only drink coffee, oh well!), some honey sticks, a pen, some candles, and a CD I made.
In fact, I left one CD with the track I need in my car! :grrrrr:
I did survive the luncheon: we went to Macaroni Grill, and I had salad and whole wheat pasta with shrimp, tomato sauce and broccoli. I only ate half the pasta. And got lots of comments from people at the table, as they all felt it necessary to point that out for some reason!
I talked to my gastroenterologist today, and she thinks she has found a surgeon to do the gallbladder removal. I have that appointment next Friday, and one with my endocrinologist on the 15. So, I too, will likely be spending part of December in the hospital. I'm hoping they'll do it outpatient: I don't think I'd mind the surgery, but I don't want to stay in a hospital. I've worked in them, and that's enough. i need to have the procedure done before January because our health insurance is changing. They used to pay the first 7 days at 100%, and then your deductible and 90%. Now its meet the deductible first, then 90%. I can't afford that in the beginning of the year... and if the gallbladder being gone will kill the nausea I have all the time, I'll be very happy, so I don't want to wait until later in the year. I upped my health care savings account to try and cover some of the deductible and other stuff they won't cover now.
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Mouse, good luck on the gallbladder surgery! Mine was a piece of cake. I didn't take any pain medication once I was awake and able to say NO. I went back to work a week later and I was ok. I couldn't bend over for a couple of weeks (like to reach below my knees) and it was a little difficult getting out of bed, but otherwise it was very little pain.

Wow, all these surgeries... I hope everyone gets over them FAST and heals perfectly. :)

I wont be posting this weekend. November 10th is our 11th anniversary, and so hub and I decided to leave a little early for a weekend get-away. We're going to a cute little mountain town in New Mexico. My aunt is coming to stay with my animals and my daughter. I know she is in good hands. :) I can't wait to go!! Hubby has been working so much that he needs this break, and I need it just to go shopping. :joker: Well, I've been working too on other things so it will be a nice break. I told him NO COMPUTERS!! So he is leaving the laptop at home. YAY!! :smug:

Well, guess that's it for now. Take care all and I'll check in when I get home. :cloud9:

I have heard that gallbladder surgery is very easy, and in most cases doesn't require an overnight stay... but then people *LOOK* at me, and I get told how dangerous the surgery is, and how they don't want to do it, and how I might have to stay in the hospital 2 or 3 days after. :sigh: If my gastroenterologist or my endocrinologist could do it, we'd be fine. They understand. But these surgeons don't... and I've yet to meet one that I can deal with. Even the two good ones (one recommended by my friend at the gym, and one by the gastro... same office, two different doctors) didn't want to do it. In fact, they wouldn't even call me back.
Today I went grocyer shopping with my mother and grandmother. I always help at the commissary. I handle the heavy stuff like cat litter and soda. My cart looked so different from what I used to buy, and from my mother's cart. It was strange. And it took a while because the commissary has some products I like but don't typically get soI had to check new stuff for aspartame and chicken! ;)
I have always shopped healthy, pretty much, since college... but I never bought diet soda before (couldn't drink it, usually), and bought things like canned vegetables.
And since I'm never home to cook, I bought frozen dinners. I started to buy hamburger patties, but the only fresh ones they had were 200 calories EACH. So, I said I'd stick with my Boca burgers. ;)
I am very pleased to see the commissary carrying a lot of the new lower carb, lower sugar items. In the past, this hasn't been the case. Also, lots of turkey-based meats (bacon, bologna, sausage, etc), and egg whites. They had my favorite whole wheat bread... I talked about it this summer... its a sourdough base, but whole wheat bread or rye. Tastes great. The store hardly ever has it when I get there, but the commissary had lots of it.
So... that was my exercise for today. I hefted 12-packs of soda for my mom: all the weightlifting must be paying off, because I easily lifted 3 12-packs of soda.
:mouse:

Wow, that's strange about people thinking the surgery is bad. What is it you are referring to about that the surgeons don't understand? Are they the ones that say it is dangerous?

Hello ladies!! It's been about a week since I posted.

We had a busy Halloween, even though we don't get many trick or treaters, my mother likes to dress up and go all out...she even bought a fog machine, which was a hit with the few people we got :lol:

I was BAD...I ate CANDY!! I didn't binge or stuff my face with tons, but I definitely ate more than a modest amount. That is ok though, I think my metformin and low(ish) carb diet is working, because I *THINK* the scale is saying i've lost some weight (we have one of those scales that move when you peak down to check, or shift your weight..or BREATH)....but it seems to be lingering around 5-10 lbs lower than it usually does....so I've probably lost somewhere between 5-7 pounds over the past couple weeks yay!! *does jig*

Noodles - I'm so sorry about the ovaries...it sounds like you aren't very worried about it...is it a routine surgery? It must be done laproscopically..(spell?)...what did they find in your blood, if you don't mind me asking?

Mouse - I'm guessing you're a teacher, of sorts?? :-D I always spoke out in class, you couldn't get me to shut up...i was one of the annoying ones who would talk when no one else did :-D And mouse, I swear...I've worked in hospitals...most operations nowadays are just day-surgery...now I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.


Was anyone else depressed about the results of the election? I cried off an on all day on Wednesday :?: ...i apologize if you're all pro-bushers, but I was just wondering what everyone else thought.

Jennifer: The surgeons don't want to do the surgery because of my weight. They're afraid it'd be high risk. They don't understand the concept of endocrine disorder and so assume that my weight is from eating McDonald's and twinkies all day long. If that was the true cause of my weight gain/weight maintance, then I could have high blood pressure, diabetes, high cholestrol, heart issues, breathing issues, etc. So I can understand their point of view. What I don't understand is their utter refual to believe that I exercise daily, and that if I had breathing or heart problems, I wouldn't be able to exercise the way I do. They also see that I take spironolactone/Aldactone, and assume its for high blood pressure, even when I tell them that it isn't. In fact, the last plastic surgeon I saw insisted that there was no such thing as an endocrine disorder that could make it harder for you to lose weight or cause you to gain weight. Because the only way to gain or lose weight is "calories in, calories out", and if you expend more calories than you eat, you'll lose weight. The 3rd surgeon I saw said that too, in a far ruder fashion, but its depressing to know that so many doctors just don't get it. I'm living proof that doesn't happen. So far today, I've burned 5000 calories according to FitDay. That was 35 minutes of swimming, 30 minutes of weight lifting, 55 minutes of water aerobics, 20 minutes of grocery shopping and 20 minutes of taking out trash and/or putting groceries away and changing the cat box. I still have 1.5 hours of swimming lessons tonight to do, and I'm going to try and get there early so I can swim another half mile.
I've only eaten 1400 calories. I did treat myself today to some Burger King, but its been more than a month since I've had anything like that. I usually treat myself to something different on Saturdays because I know I do a lot of exercise between my own work-out and swimming lessons. The problem with that is I probably won't want anything else later tonight.
The equation is 3700 calories (or is it 3500?) equals 1 pound. I burn at LEAST 4000 calories daily because I swim 45 minutes to an hour 6 days a week, and lift weights 2-3 days a week...sometimes more if I can get to the gym at a reaosnable hour. FitDay also figures my resting metabolism... I've set it for "sedentary/light', so at that it says I burn like 3000 just breathing and doing natural things like my job or walking.
But I don't lose much weight, certainly not quickly. I still get comments from people that I look like I've lost weight; I told you all about the comments when we went out to lunch last week. I'm not sure what more I can do, although my endocrinologist maintains that taking the glucophage would help.
Melis: I work for a major research hospital that runs a children's neurological rehab hospital where I am locally. The children's hospital runs several school programs, and I work at their high school. I refuse to be treated there, although I have seen doctors there and was required to report there when I a student broke my hand my first year teaching at the school I'm at now, and again last Spring when I fell in some mud during a student activity and sprained my bad ankle.
As for the election, well... I hate to say this but I'm basically a two or three issue voter. Education, defense (because both of my parents are now retired military, my mother was Navy Civil Service/Dept. of Defense, my father was in the Army), and the economy.
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Mouse:
Doctors are arrogant, they go to college and medical school, and like many pompous students, develop naive and pretentious world views (including views on health and medicine)...only to graduate and have them come crashing down on them :D

Hello Ladies, I'm swooping to let you know that right now we are asking people to not talk about the election. We've had some heated arguments over the last few months, so we just banned the subject until it's all over. You'd be surprised how bitter the conversations can be! So thanks in advance. ;)

Mouse, I'm sorry that they're turning you all down. :(

Oops! Sorry, Jennifer! I saw the comment about no political views in the avatars, but missed the other!

And yea, some doctors are really arrogant and shouldn't be practicing medicine. Given who I work for, and their reputation, I shouldn't be surprised. But I am, continually. I just refuse to be treated there at all at this point. I actually work for TWO different hospital systems in my area, because the gym I work for is run by Lifebridge Health & Fitness as well, which runs two hospitals in the area. Somehow, though, my doctors that have privileges there and/or are affiliated with the hospital seem much more human! I'm not sure if its the hospital atmosphere, or what, but even though the one set of surgeons turned me down, he wasn't RUDE about it. Whereas the plastic surgeons who were affiliated in any way with the group I work for were just flat-out rude. The last one I saw tried to scare me, which I didn't appreciate, and didn't understand the endocrine disorder, but she wasn't rude or nasty. I wouldn't choose to go back to her, but its more because she tried to scare me and not because she was impolite.
We'll see what this surgeon I see this coming Friday says about the gallbladder surgery. I would guess that my gastroenterologist talked to her about me...
I gotta tell you though, the computer systems these places have are SCARY! I gave her my name, and she pulled me right up even though I've never been treated at the hospital or anything! Then we figured out that it was because the hospital did my drug test for my job at the gym, so I went into the computer... my record was marked "employee". So then I had to explain that I was only part-time, didn't work for the hospital itself but at the gym, and all of that because my insurance didn't match.... :)
That ALWAYS happens, and it can get funny: the hospital that runs the hospital that runs my school has different insurance from the children's hospital, and different from the University affiliated with the hospital system as well... So I'm always having to correct something because they automatically assume I have one insurance until they realize that I work for the children's hospital. Our ID badges look the same and all... But you know what really stinks? ANYTIME I'm on hospital property, I have to wear my ID badge... at ANY medical campus. It is kind of nice at the hospital, because I don't get searched... I'm just allowed in. But other places, when I'm there for a personal reason, its strange... Oh well. Random thoughts at 12:15 a.m.

:mouse:

Hi all!! :wave:

I'm home!! We got home early because I haven't felt good all weekend and I'd rather not feel good at home in my own bed than in some hotel bed. :( SO..I'm going to go rest now but just wanted to let you know I was home and I'll pop in later on. :smug:

Hello All,
Sorry to hear you're not very well Noodles. I hope all goes well with your surgery. :goodvibes
Hope your gallbladder surgery helps you stop feeling sick too Mouse. I wish doctors could be a bit more sensitive too sometimes. :grouphug:

I've got a doctors appointment on Thursday. Last time she asked me to think about the birth control pill as I bleed for long periods of time. Which wears me out(This last time it was a month.) I've read contrasting reports about it for PCOS suffers and dug out some old posts about it here. Decisions, decisions! :?:
Hello to anyone I havent met before! :wave:
Love Annie x

Hi gang!

I know it has been a while! :)

Just to update you, i had my total Abdominal Hysterectomy on October 25th. Today I go in for my 2 week Post op!

So far I am recovering well. they took my Uterus and Cervix but I got to keep my ovaries. they also lasered off quite a bit of the Endo and Adhesions. the Pathology report came back with the early stages of Adenomyosis too so the timing for the surgery was good.

I kept my ovaries for a couple of reasons:

1) they were very healthy with no cysts, scars or Endo on them
2) I am only 37 and we were trying to avoid HRT at all costs!

So even though I have PCOS, the doctor believes we can control it with diet and possible meds if necessary. I'll tell you this.. I am having hot flashes like a mad woman! I guess the ovaries are in shock!

I will get more deets today, but I wanted to check in!

MM - I had gall bladder surgery 8 years ago! 3 weeks after having a C-Section with my first child! Although I was still post-Natal, it was very very easy. I did stay over night but only because I had surgery at 5PM. I was releassed at 10 am the next day. I have 4 tiny scars to show for it, but the results are so worth it! No more heart burn!!

I need to run and get ready to go to the doctor.. but I wanted to let you all know that I have been reading and am feeling better! :)

Welcome back, Karen & Amcap!! :cloud9:

Sounds like your surgeries went well. That is always good news. :smug:

Karen, I had a hysterectomy in June 2003. The doc left my ovaries in too...for basically the same reasons. (age, hrt). He thought they might start to work better if he cauterized them and left them in, but, alas, that was not the case as they are not making estrogen, but they loveeee to make abnormal testostrone and other abmornal things. :dz:

He did warn me though that they might do this because of something about them being hormonally upset without the uterus, but he thought it would take 3 years. It took a year. I started having the hot flashes about 6 months ago...UGH...but I didn't have them after surgery. They might be in shock from the uterine trauma. I drink soy milk and take black cohosh and that seems to take the edge off of the flashes.

My endo told me that there are new medicines out there that work much better than the HRT. I'll find out more after I go through my surgery and let ya know.

I can tell they aren't working right because I've felt like crap for a long time..and reading up and doing my research on this it all makes sense why. Plus I keep getting the gut aches and nausea...and I can feel the ovaries "burning" so to speak...as if a cyst is bursting through and ripping the skin or something. Weird!!! We went away for the weekend and I felt like crap most of the time...but I didn't say much to hubby. He is smart though...he could tell. Especially when I pass up a shopping spree! :( Oh well when it's all done we'll go to the Grand Canyon.

Hope everyone else is doing better than me....drop in and let us know!! We'd love to hear from ya. :yes:

I'm glad it all went well, Karen! I hope you recover soon. If you still have your ovaries, those hot flashes should go away soon. It might be reaction to anasthesia or medication. Looks like you had good timing on the surgery - I hope things continue to look up for you. You're going to feel SO much better now that it's gone!

Noodles, I understand the growth feeling. I had a very large fibroid tumor (size of a soccer ball) and I could feel what felt like crackling and growing. Ewww.

Noodles: Get better soon. :virtual balloons and brownies: And my brownies aren't that bad: they're fat-free and made with either applesauce or yogurt and egg whites! :)

This week has been pretty long. We had garage issues Tuesday, field trip today, and then the wonderful news that I have to go have a chest x-ray tomorrow. Some of you may remember my being allergic to the TB test serum. Its a new occurance, who knows where it came from. Anyway, the hospital I work for has decided that because htey couldn't read the test, I have to go have a chest x-ray. TOMORROW! :sigh:
Friday I have the surgeon's appointment, then I'm dispatcher all weekend, and go to see my endocrinologist on Monday. Grades are due finished by noon Friday, but all I have left to do is comments. I even have my IEP updates done. I still have 60 industry survey reports to do, but that's just a numerical rubric.
Forget the gym! Though I did get there today through some miracle, and I'm determined to get there tomorrow even though it means coming home after the chest x-ray to get my car and go back out toward the school.
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Thanks, Mousie. :mouse:

Well, I went to the doctors today. At first doc didn't want to take out my ovaries...doc said these things happen. But then after doc saw my labs and we had a "discussion" about putting me on estrogen anyhow, doc changed mind and agreed before January. The only problem is that office is booked up until the week before Christmas. So...looks like it will be the week before Christmas, but this isn't a bad thing because I will have hubby at home and he won't have to miss too much work, plus the kid will be out of school. This also allows me time to plan for a pre-Christmas yard sale. :) Gotta get rid of stuff so we don't have to move it all back up to Oregon. Moving sucks, but moving across the western states sucks even more!!! :sp: We'll have movers, but still..there are things that you don't want them to touch, know what I mean?? Anyhow...that's my story for now. :)

On another note, today is my 11th wedding anniversary. We went to a good ol' home cooked mexican dinner, then to the wine store to get a nice bottle of wine, then to Costco and got a cheesecake, and home. Whoopie huh... I think we'll celebrate this weekend by going to the movies or something. We must be getting old...Things that use to seem fun aren't anymore. I'd rather go shopping instead. :lol:

Well...I am officially going in for surgery on Friday, December 10th @ 7:30 AM.

I wasn't suppose to go in until right before Christmas but the doctor decided to get me in sooner after all. This is what the hospital had open! LOL!! I wasn't expecting a call until Monday. A Friday...ahh well at least hubby will be off. Then the next week he can work at home.

So...that's where I'll be that weekend in case those of you that see me online, don't see me online. :) I'm sure I'll be able to post afterwards and fill you in. Hubby will bring the laptop. :hyper:

Good luck! I'm sure all will go well. Are they taking both ovaries?

Good luck! I'm sure all will go well. Are they taking both ovaries?

Thanks! :thanks:

I'm sure it will all go OK. I'm not too worried. This is the same doctor that did my hysterectomy vaginally. Very skilled surgeon.

Yea, both ovaries are going a bye-bye. Apparently the other one is full of cysts now too. That use to be my good one. Go figure. :dz: AHhh the things us women go through...

Jennifer, did they put you on any hormonal replacement??? How long were you in the hospital??? Any input/advice appreciated!! :D

Nope, no hormone replacement for me. The hot flashes were intense the first month, but they decreased dramatically after that. They really aren't bad. I'd much rather have a hot flash than menstrual cramps! If I get undesirable side effects in the future then they can treat me then. Otherwise, they aren't recommending it. The risks outweigh the benefits for me. If I had osteoporosis I would consider it.

I only answered half your question! I was in the hospital for 2 nights, but that was from the adhesion surgery. I was scheduled for outpatient surgery since it was a laproscopic procedure. They had to do about a 6 inch incision or so to clear out all the adhesions, so that left me in there a couple of days. Hopefully you'll be out in a day! When I had my gallbladder out I felt terrific afterward. I was sore, but not in pain. I took Aleve and was fine. We'll all do an over-the-counter-pain-relief meditative dance for you while you're in surgery! :dance:

I saw the surgeon today about the gallbladder surgery: and she doesn't want to do it. She says I just don't have the symptoms, and that the nausea and vomiting could be from anything from medication to part of the endocrine disorder.
She called in an associate of hers, and he has an interest in endocrinology. He looked at me, and says he sees a lot of physical symptoms of Cushing's Syndrome (which she says is different from Cushings Disease???). I dunno. I've been tested for that repeatedly with all the tests being negative. He did note, which most doctors do not... the doctors I keep notice this... that the weight gain is situated abnormally and that my legs and arms are normal.
I don't know what to think at this point. She is going to try and get me an appointment with a regular endocrinologist that is part of the hospital she is with. My endocrinologist is really a reproductive endocriologist and specialist GYN. So, since this is now causing elevated cortisol levels and may be the cause of the nausea and vomiting...
Oh, I don't know! I'm really sick of the whole thing to be honest!
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Crap, I thought it already got approved! At this point, why NOT do it. You won't be the first person to have unneccessary surgery. I had symptoms off and on for years before my gb bit the dust. What kind of tests are they going to run, did they give you an idea?

My gastroenterologist wants me to have the gallbladder removed; none of the surgeons want to do it because the only test that indicated a problem with the gallbladder was the hidascan. The endoscopy and the ultrasound were both normal. The hidascan indicated only 12% ejection factor, whatever the heck THAT means. I haven't been able to figure it out. But everybody I've seen admits that the hidascan isn't the most accurate test in the world and lots and lots of people could have ejection issues.
The other issue, of course, with the surgery is my weight. Both surgeons I saw have said the surgery would be high risk because of my weight and the endocrine disorder. Apparently, people with elevated cortisol levels heal poorly.
As for tests for Cushings, they've done a 24-hour fluid collection to test cortisol, blood tests, and there was some other test... ACTH, or something like that. Its been elevated, but only slightly, and I've also had a abdominal CT and MRIs as well as ultrasounds and pelvic ultrasounds.
The only symptoms of gallbladder disorder that I have are the nausea and vomiting. :?:

:mouse:

I'm so sorry mouse :mouse: . How stressful and horrible for you! I hope it gets sorted. :crossed:

My doctor has put me on bc pill dianette. She said it may help me lose weight. It will just be nice not to bleed all the time.
Have a good week everyone x

well, in that aspect, I'm lucky. I never bleed. Not unless they give me massive amounts of progesterone.
Makes it easy to pursue swimming as a hobby without worrying about toxic shock syndrome or other tampon-related issues. ;)
Okay... most people probably won't find that a positive. I DID mention I was weird, didn't I????

:mouse:

I find it a positive!!!!!!!!! I think periods are a curse of some sort on us women. When I had my hysterectomy, I was grilled by 3 different doctors.."Are you SURE this is what you want?? There won't be any turning back after." Damn right I'm sure!! It was the best surgery I ever did besides getting my eyes fixed. No Regrets!! No more sanitary crap to buy...no more ruining clothes and bed sheets. Nah....I find it positive too, Mouse. :smug:

Well, we got a little surprise this weekend. I woke up with a badly infected throat. :( White globby stuff hanging from my tonsils...driving me crazy, not to mention a sore throat and fever. So I went to urgent care and got some nice medicine. I feel a bit better now.

After we got home..we get a phone call from the in-laws, telling us they are 2½ hours away!! They were on an east coast motorhome trip so we didn't expect them until Thanksgiving. Well, me being the cleaner that I am, got up and cleaned the house. I can't stand people coming over to a dirty house. Fortunately, it wasn't THAT bad so it didn't take me as long as I thought it would. :) We all went to a homemade mexican place last night and today I cooked up a nice penne pasta casserole with a healthy green salad, and garlic toast. Mother-in-law made a homemade apple pie. YUM!!! :cloud9:

SO...that's why I haven't been on much. Between in laws and throat illness and cooking-cleaning-sleeping, I'm beat!! :tired:

I'm with you two on it being a positive!!!!!!!!!
Noodles - hope your throat is better really soon. When my parents visit I think its bad enough that they are always an hour early! Have a good rest!

Its been a while since I posted last, but 3 jobs will keep you offline quite a bit. :( Hopefully I'll make enough to get my gas bill paid off so they'll turn the heat back on SOON,

On other fronts, the gyn has decided he wants to take things in steps, and as a result I'll be having ovarian diathermy (aka ovarian drilling) December 16th. Have any of you had this? What can I expect postoperatively in terms of recovery (he says 3-4 days but I'm thinking it'll be longer as my tubal ligation took a good week- week and half)and in terms of effect on my PCOS? I've heard it can work well, but the effects will often only last a year or so. If this doesn't work he'll do a wedge resection, and barring that the full hysterectomy.

Welcome back, Willendorf!!! :D

NO HEAT?? I would go crazy!!! I hate to be cold. Course I hate to be hot now too. I can't win!! :no: :lol:

I have had ovarian drilling. I had it done during my hysterectomy in June, 2003, so I really couldn't tell you how long the recovery is. It would all depend on if they go in and do it laprascopic or if they have to make an incision. Incisional surgeries always take longer to heal. It works well, but, alas, it is true that it only lasts a year or so. My ovaries did really good right afterwards, but then they slowly fell apart again and so I am going in this December 10th to get them taken out. Had I known it wouldn't of lasted, I would of just had him take my ovaries out when he did the hysterectomy. Now I am stuck with facing another surgery. :dz: Oh well... At least it will be all over and done with after this one. Female parts wise, that is.

Keep us posted and don't let them talk you into doing anything you don't feel comfortable with. It's your body, not theirs. :)

Type later!! :grouphug:

Well, no surgery on my front... I did see my reproductive endocrinologist today. She wants me to go see a nutrionist, because its pretty obvious that we're not going to get a plastic surgeon to help remove the pannus. So... she figures if we do the nutrionist route, then we'll have that much more proof that I'm eating appropriately and its really a chemical/endocrinological disorder. That, and I am waiting to hear about the ordinary endocrinologist up here. My RE/GYN is ready to talk to her. She spent nearly an hour with us and had two other patients waiting in her office. I felt guilty, but she's that kind of person. She's going to call the nutrionist: she's down in Northern VA too, but my thoughts are that if my GYN knows her, likes her, and is going to make the first phone call for me, I'm willing to drive there to see her. I can do it over winter break probably. I'm tired of the nasty, stupid looks I get from most med professionals. I will also ask my friends at the gym, because my gym does a nutrionist's service as well, and see what they think of the person there.
And now... I've not eaten anything at all today, so Mom and I stopped at a BBQ place on the way home, and I think I'll go eat.
:mouse:

Hey Mouse,
I've been reading through your trials these last few weeks, and it sounds like your RE is a good gal - I'm so glad you have even one doctor who will listen. It's amazing how closed-minded docs can be, given that they supposedly see a wide range of different humans with different problems in thier practice, hmmm? I'm wishing you the best.

Ladies, with your various surgeries coming up, all my best. I expect I will be lurking often and posting rarely (I'm shy most of the time) :) but I'm rooting for you.

I'm at the very beginning of a weight-loss program that hopefully will address the fertility aspect of PCOS - my RE suggests that I give it a six-month trial to see if I will ovulate and get pregnant naturally before he starts me on Metformin or similar. I'm trying the "Insulin Resistance Diet," which seems like it would be tailor made for PCOS. Only on a week, and I feel a bit less spacey, but no real loss to speak of yet.

Ciao, be well!
Kim

Hello everyone!
Hope everyone is O.K.
Love Annie

Hi Girls!! :wave:

Sorry I haven't posted in a while...things have been pretty boring around here for me. I've been cleaning ceiling fans and blinds and rat cages. And shopping and trying to get things ready for a yard sale. See...Boring! :lol:

I'm also trying to get my household ready for my surgery. If I can get most of my heavy cleaning out of the way now, then it leaves less for hubby to do over the holidays. We're probably not going to put the tree up this year because the cat will want to knock everything down on it and in my condition, I just won't be able to chase after him and clean up decorations all over the house. Thank goodness the in-laws are coming to help me out a bit.

What's everyone doing for turkey day?? We are either going to relatives here, or going to relatives out of state. I want to go out of state!! THis way I get to see my friends too. :)

Type at ya later..I have an orange to eat here. :cool:

Wow. I didn't realize that I haven't posted since monday. I'm still here, but only barely functioning. ;)
Thursday is the first night that I've been home & had dinner before 9:00 p.m. I was on my way out the door and one of my favorite therapists at my school (all the kids have both a mental health therapist and a educational case manager. I'm not overly fond of most social worker types) stopped me to finish a conversation we'd been having the other day. And of course, we branched into other areas, so I didn't get out of the building until after 4:15. And it was getting dark. And my apartment has been so MESSY since I work Saturdays now too... I came home, put the dishes up to wash, did the laundry, cleaned up my kitchen, hung up the clothes scattered, tried on some new jeans (which are too big, I think... but I'm going to wear them tomorrow and ask my TA what she thinks), and a nwe bathing suit. The chlorine kills swimsuits, even with a rinse... so I started buying the polyester suits (Junonia calls them Chloroban), and they allegedly last much longer because chlorine can't break down the polyester. But they have NO STRETCH! I've been wearing a 22/24 swimsuits, and had to go to a 28 with these! They are also longer in the torso and cover more. These suits are definitely made for working out in... they aren't leisure suits.
I'm planning to go to bed early, and tomorrow is an off-campus trip for the whole school: I'm on the group that is staying back, which is fine with me... and so I decided to use up some more of that comp time I have and take off early Friday.
Saturday is the Thanksgiving Parade that I'm taking a crew to. Then I have to rush to the gym for swimming lessons, and I think a friend's housewarming party (for which I haven't gotten a present yet!) is that night!
I also heard from the surgeon I saw last week... they were able to get the other endocrinologist to see me, but she wants to do it in the next 3 weeks! I haven't figured out how the heck I'm going to do that one yet... We have Thanksgiving, I have kids going off-campus still for field trips... :eek:

:mouse:

Wow...all these surgeries. Mouse, are you going to go for it?? Mine is coming up on December 10th, so I will be scarce afterwards until I heal up some.

I've been trying to get things done around here beforehand. Today we finally moved some more rocks. We got the whole one side of the yard done!! :D
Now all we have left to do is the path by the gate and we're DONE finally with our year long backyard landscaping project. THANK GOD!! Only problem is...we have more rock than we needed. :dz: Looks like I'll be spreading river rock all over the front yard. Oh well it's good exercise.

I also managed to transplant 2 Aloe Vera plants and re-potted a butterfly bush. Then I laid out more bark ground cover to fix my bare spots. I'll take pics when it's all done so you can see what I've done. The dog is a bit tiffed...she can't roll in the dirt anymore. :lol: I got tired of squirting her off after her mud rolls. After I get the yard done, I am going to attempt to have a yard sale. I NEED to have a yard sale...I have a garage full of stuff priced and ready to go...and it's been overdue for it's time to go. We'll see though...

Now this week I get to get ready for our Thanksgiving trip! YAY!!! :hyper: I get to go see my friends!! Party time!! :joker: The hub, kid and I are going to try to hit an amusement park if possible...just depends on the amount of time we have left after visiting the whole damn state it seems. :lol:

We went and saw SpongeBob Squarepants last night. It was cute!! And I've never even seen the actual cartoon on TV before. Guess I'll have to start watching it.

Ta Ta For Now...write soon!!! :grouphug:

I don't have a whole lot left. I'm not having surgery of any type: the general surgeons don't want to remove the gallbladder, because they say nausea and vomitting isn't enough of a symptom to remove something. The hidascan is the only test that showed anything wrong, the ultrasounds and the endoscopy were both negative (normal?).
We all know what the plastic surgeons think: I sit home all day long and stuff my face, because clearly weight is all calories in-calories out. I've had 1500 calories today. 200 of that was the 20 ounce ginger ale I bought after swim lessons so I could get some solid food in me without getting sick. I ate breakfast this morning at 6:45 (egg beaters, some bacon, potatoes, a biscuit), didn't eat again till 4:30, when I had plain whole wheat pasta with broccoli, steak, and mushrooms. In between breakfast and dinner, I went to the Thanksgiving parade... only 2 students out of 5 showed up, and only 2 other staff. Two canceled the night before, which was okay, but one just disappeared. Its not like her, so I'm worried. Parade went well, we actually had some sun! :)
Then, as I said, dinner... and then to the gym for swim lessons. I had about 90 minutes between the time I got there and the time we started lessons, so I swam. For 90 minutes. 1.25 miles. Then we had lessons. I have the little ones first: 3-5 years old. And then I have the Level 1 group. I tend to get the really scared ones, and wind up giving them a semi-private lesson so they don't get too scared... We almost always grab something after lessons... so we went to this pizza place. I ordered two slices of plain pizza... then saw how big they were, and brought the other slice home. Its in the fridge, along with Friday night's dinner leftovers.
And now... I am going to BED! I left at 6:25 this morning, and it was 10:45 tonight before I came home.
:mouse:

:cheer: HORRAY!!!!!!!! MY BACK YARD IS FINALLY LANDSCAPED!!!!!! :cheer:

We finally finished the rest of it today. We scooped and spread out the rest of the gravel, and then built the stone path and river rocked it. Then I added some potted cacti and potted flowers to the patio. YAY I'm DONE!! I started this landscaping project last year...we got the rocks in August, now it's November and it's finished!! And it looks so nice...if I do say so myself. :D

Now my only problem is...I did wind up having extra river rock. Ugh...:dz: This means I will be filling in gaps in my front yard now with lovely river rock. :shrug:

Hi girls you probally don't remember me, its been a long time. But I was wondering Noodles or Jennifer, having your hysterectomies, did it take away the monthly horrible pms symptoms. I heard you still can get them even after the surgery. My breast hurt 14-15 days before my period, ovary pain, severe bloating, 10 pounds of weight gain every month, not to mention the emotional aspects of it, increased anxiety and mood swings. I want to go in for my yearly and beg for one. I am only twentynine though. But I had two children and I am done having more little ones. Thanks a bunch! Julie

Noodles your landscaping sounds nice! Alot of work I bet.
I hope everyone has a wonderful joyous holiday season.

Hi girls you probally don't remember me, its been a long time. But I was wondering Noodles or Jennifer, having your hysterectomies, did it take away the monthly horrible pms symptoms. I heard you still can get them even after the surgery. My breast hurt 14-15 days before my period, ovary pain, severe bloating, 10 pounds of weight gain every month, not to mention the emotional aspects of it, increased anxiety and mood swings. I want to go in for my yearly and beg for one. I am only twentynine though. But I had two children and I am done having more little ones. Thanks a bunch! Julie

:balloons: WELCOME BACK, JBBM!! :balloons:

I don't get PMS anymore. I sitll crave chocolate though!! :lol: But I'd rather crave chocolate than have to bleed every month, have all of that uterine pain and bloating, etc..so I know what you mean.

If it is really bad for you and you are 101% sure you don't want anymore kids, go in and ask for one. That's what I did. My doctor made me think about it for a month to make sure this was what I wanted. After that 6 weeks of bleeding the last time and almost passing out, I had had enough!! OUT with the uterus!! I have no regrets except I wish I would have did it sooner.

There should be a way for us to just un-screw them or something when we're done with them. Like a light bulb. :lol:

Yea, the back yard does look nice if I do say so myself. :smug: I was just out there briefly to admire it...It's weird to look out there and see it all finished and not a buncha dirt and weeds. But it's a good weird! A great feeling of a job well done. :D

Hi Julie, I still had all the hormonal symptoms after having the uterus removed, but I didn't get bloating, cramps or diarrhea. I did get those previously when I started my period. I did have some water retention, but not like i used to, and I was mildly *****y! Later on I guess my ovaries worked less and less and my hormones were more and more out of whack and then I never knew when a cycle was happening, if they were happening at all. Now that the ovaries are gone so are the monthly cycles.

Thanks Noodles! I greatly appreciate the information, I am currently taking Yasmin, but may stop it on my own, I am not sure yet? Happy Turkey Day everyone! Julie

And thank you too, Jennifer for the reply. I hate hormones, sometimes I wonder why some woman just breeze through peroids and other suffer like ****. Are you still doing the sbd? I am trying to add low carb items to my diet. But I admit tonight I pigged out :^:. I have a feeling I might be giving in to food, bad food that is until after the holidays, even though I am going to try my hardest not too. LOL....take care and Happy holidays, Julie

Thanks Noodles! I greatly appreciate the information, I am currently taking Yasmin, but may stop it on my own, I am not sure yet? Happy Turkey Day everyone! Julie


Yasmin...YECK!! :( I hope it works for you, though. It didn't work for me. It just intensified my problems and made things worse than they already were. My poor boobs...Oh man I thought I had milk come in again when I went on Yasmin. I was only on it for one pack. That was too much.

Good Luck...

Noodles, I may discontinue the Yasmin....I don't know if it has made everything worse, you know the symptoms, haha, I have been on it over a year. I should probally ask doc about it. Also I am going to ask him if he does give in and give me a hyst. do I still have to take bc? Julie

I'm on dianette, I think its called Diane35 in the US. It's specifically for acne and excess hair but is a bc pill too. I've only been on it for a couple of weeks - so far so good.

JbbM: Sometimes they try to make you still take some form of birth control (for the estrogen) after a hysterectomy, but I stopped anyhow. It was messing me up really bad...worse than if no birth control. Reason is because the pill also has progesterins in there and you don't need those because those are to help the uterus shed its lining...and there's no uterus. My doctor is putting me on a low dose estrogen-only medicine (Patch I believe) after I get the ovaries out, but it isn't a birth control pill. If you get everything taken out, (ovaries, tubes, uterus), then ask for estrogen only instead of a BC pill. Hope this helps!

Annie-Rose: I've heard marvelous things about the Diane pill, but they don't sell it here in the US yet I asked my endo about it (she's from Hungary) and she said they are trying to get it approved here, but so far no deal. :(

:wave: On that note....I'm outta here!! I'm going to see my best friends and family for Thanksgiving....I will check in from there (I have a laptop), but probably won't post much. So...everyone please have a safe and happy...


:balloons:THANKSGIVING DAY!!! :balloons:

Julie, I am not on SBD anymore. I started eating the BFL way, but I'm not strictly by the plan. I'm trying to lift weights and get some muscle mass, and hopefully get my metabolism moving again. The muscle makes a big difference when burning calories.

Yep, this week stinks. Too many Thanksgiving dinners. I'm eating as lightly as I can stand!

hello everyone, I am new and am looking forward to meeting new people. I was just diagnosed with PCOS and I have to admit I feel totally lost. My husband and I have been trying to conceive for 2 1/2 years. With no lukc. ALl my tests came back fine. Doc put me on Metformin june of 03. My husband just got tested yesterday for a SA. I have gained 50-60pounds since may 02 when we got married. I couldnt understand it. Well some of it. And then the doc told me I have pcos. I am still kind of emotional over it. But I have been starting to follow a low-glycemic diet which is supposed to help. I have lost 3 pounds this week. I currently wiegh 265. I am 25 (almost 26) and 5 ft 3 in. I am miserable. This is the largest I have ever been. I decided not to tell my family I have PCOS. I just dont know if I can handle that right now. But in the meantime I have no one to turn to for support.

enough of my rambling. I really look forward to meeting people. And people that know what I am going through. I live in Arizona and would also love a local buddy. but please email. I love to meet new peeps.

Brittney

Hi Brittney! I actually tell that I have PCOS anytime that I get the opportunity. It is a little known condition still, and I like to educate and break stereotypes. Is there a reason that you don't want to tell your family? It's nothing to be ashamed of, and it isn't a fatal condition, although it is a big neon warning sign to lose weight or Diabetes is next! I'm just curious. I was actually very relieved to hear that I have it. It answered a lot of questions to problems that I couldn't fix! I was at least somewhat happy to be able to say 'See, I didn't 10,000 calories a day!'

Good luck with the weight loss. It's been said to help quite a few conceive. Are you going to wait until you've lost weight to try and conceive? The weight loss will help you have a healthier pregnancy, especially if you are insulin resistant - which I am assuming you are, since you are on Met. Good luck, and ask us anything you want or need to know.

PS - I can think of a million diseases or syndromes that are worse than this one. Ours can mostly be corrected with proper diet and exercise, so we're lucky! :)

Hi Brittney

I'm in a similar boat - my hubby and I have been "not trying not to have children" for a year or two, and are really getting to the "actually TRYING" phase now. I've been PCOS diagnosed for about two years, but only started researching it this last year. It's daunting to see all the problems you can have with this, and how it impacts fertility. I had my first visit to a RE last month, and he recommended that to improve my chances of conceiving, that I really exercise as much as I can, (he suggested 30 minutes of aerobics 7 days a week, but I've decided if I can do 6 then I deserve a rest day!) and lose weight. He said that he expected that I would ovulate, and hence conceive naturally if I could get below a threshold weight (which is different for every woman) and that exercise and diet changes are the best way to avoid diabetes. He said to really give it a 6-month trial to see what happened before he started me on more intensive feritility treatment.

I've actaully started doing a diet called the "insulin resistance diet" that seems to be working - I thought I would be up many pounds after my self-indulgent Thanksgiving weekend dinners, but I was keeping to the diet the rest of the time and I seem to be down half a pound, so hurrah! Did a lot of walking with the WATP tapes and with relatives, and have mostly given up sodas. After two (Three? can't remember!) weeks on this I still feel positive and not starved, and I'm down about 4 pounds, give or take.

And on the internet, here and elsewhere, I've seen stories of women bigger than me and bigger than you report, who have slimmed down, gotten pregnant, and had normal pregnancies. So, it can be done!

Good luck, and keep posting! (I usually lurk, but I love to read how folks are doing!)
Kim

Well... hope everybody had a good Turkey day. My mom won a gift certificate for a catered dinner, so we did that for Thanksgiving. The gift certificate was worth a percentage off, and since there are only 3 of us and 2 cats, it worked well. Lots of leftovers, but not too much to make us sick of the whole thing. And my mom was able to get them to leave ALL the chicken products out of everything. They even made the gravy for the turkey from the turkey juices instead of using chicken broth as a base like they usually do. I should send them a thank-you note. ;)
I wound up having to leave my mom's house early because her kitten and my cat just don't seem able to get along. My mother is insistant that I bring my cat with me for Hanukkah at the end of next week. I will, but I'm going to be a nervous wreck because after we celebrate Hanukkah Thursday night (first night is Wednesday), I'm going to Philadelphia for a science fiction convention. I kept saying I wasn't going to go, because the hotel is pricey, but both my mom and grandmother think I need to do it. Its really the only time I go away... and I get to see friends that I don't see or talk to much outside of the convention. I'm leaving the car and the cat at her place until I come back Sunday night. Fortunately, neither cat has front claws, but I'll still be worried about my cat... I'm not positive he has been eating and drinking while we have been there.
On my own news front, I have an appointment with the nutrionist that my endocrinologist recommended. We have a professional day on Friday (staff reports, but we have no students), so I was able to make the appointment for late Friday afternoon. She seems like she's interested in working with me, because she spent at least 25 minutes on the phone asking questions and taking notes. The biggest issue is that she doesn't take insurance, or credit cards. She'll be able to take credit cards the beginning of the new year, but I couldn't pass up the professional day opportunity: no students means I don't have to worry about lesson plans or coverage. My school has no substitute teachers. And this whole not losing weight thing sucks. The nutrionist did say that I might not be eating enough for my body to lose weight since I'm pretty active.
I have also been trying to reach the other endocrinologist's office by phone: I left one message on a voice mail system, and then one message with a human being, but have heard nothing back. I'm going to call the surgeon's office who wanted me to see her, because I can't seem to get past the gatekeepers.
:mouse:

hey guys..thanks for the warm welcome....

As far as why I dont want to tell me family.....well I know some of them would try to be supportive but some of them would be countersupportive.. does that make sense? And some of them would be doom and gloom and pity. I am not ashamed that I have it and actually was also very relieved when I found out. I will admit it was and still is very emotional for me. Especially with the holidays and my birthday is this Saturday Dec. 4th. I still feel overwhelmed. I am following the GI Diet (Low Glycemic Diet, or traffic light diet) I have lost 10 pounds. I would rather get to my first goal weight of 200-220 before I seriously try and medications or procedures to get pregnant. I have heard to "good" stories. It has been really emotional of late.

I really appreciate the kind words already and look forward to learning more. I have told my mother that I am insulin resistant (diagnosed 1 1/2 yrs ago) and that I was following this diet. She has mentioned more then once that it seemed to extreme or strict. I am torn, i feel maybe if she knew the real reason she would understand. but I also know I cant tell her without the rest of the family finding out. I come from a family of gossipers and having to know everyones business. Some of them can be judegmental.

I thought I would just take some time to figure out my husband and I should do. and where to go from here.

any advice would be great!! And I do get offended easily so please share. I need to learn.....

also on a side note....is anyone going through or gone through a wide range of emotion when trying to conceive for awhile? I have several friends who are expecting...some under good situation some because the were stupid and got i trouble, one one hand I am happy for them and want to share this with them. On the other hand sometimes it is hard and I almost resent it. I am trying to not have these feelings but it is hard. Especially when I have no one to turn to. Everyone just tells me not to worry or it will happen in gods time (I know this mentally, just not always as strong emotionally)

ok this is so long no one will read it now!!! ha ha thanks for reading. I feel better already!lol

oh and what is everyones opinion on telling family?

Brittney
sw270
cw260
gw 200-220

I see what you are saying about the family. If it were me, I'd tell them all, and pass out PCOS informational sheets when they ask about it. Then they won't think you are going to die! Maybe you can tell your mom that your doctor recommended this type of diet so the IR won't proceed to Diabetes. I guess I take PCOS lightly!

I have heard plenty of people say that they conceived after losing weight. Just keep at it, and try and conceive when you are at a healthy weight. You want to be quite a bit lighter than you are now for a healthier pregnancy, especially since you are IR. You don't want to risk gestational diabetes. I know it hurts to see others get pregnant. I had a hysterectomy 6 years ago (fibroids, not PCOS) and not a day goes by that I don't want another. Bittersweet to see friends have babies!

I am closing this thread since the month is over. Go to the December thread! :D