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Usagi
09-12-2004, 01:17 PM
Are these SB Phase I friendly? Their California Cob Salad with grilled chicken, not fried is really good. it has spinach and lettuce and egg crumbles, real bacon bits, blue cheese crumbles and then the chicken. I put the Newmans Own Balsamic on it (Sugars: 3g) and it was pretty good. Is this SB friendly?? Are any of the McD's salads?


nelie
09-12-2004, 01:21 PM
Well because of the bacon bits and blue cheese, I would say no.

Usagi
09-12-2004, 01:26 PM
I thought those things were allowed? Hmm...Hopefully, there is some salad offered at places that serve it up fast that is allowed. Otherwise, i got nothing around me when I'm out and about. :lol:


nelie
09-12-2004, 01:31 PM
Bacon isn't allowed, but 2 pieces of turkey bacon are allowed a day. Blue cheese would be allowed if it was low fat, but I don't think the mcdonald's one is. You might want to try subway salads when you are out and about, you can tell them exactly what to put in them.

kfs151
09-12-2004, 02:07 PM
How about the Wendy's taco salad? It is basically mixed greens with chili on top. They give you salsa, sour cream and tortilla chips seperately.

Some of the McSalads should be fine as not all of them have cheese/bacon on them, as long as you get the protein grilled & not fried. I've had their fiesta salad and thought it was OP (once you picked out the tortilla strips).

jenne1017
09-12-2004, 07:48 PM
Bacon isn't allowed, but 2 pieces of turkey bacon are allowed a day. Blue cheese would be allowed if it was low fat, but I don't think the mcdonald's one is. You might want to try subway salads when you are out and about, you can tell them exactly what to put in them.

I don't get this. I mean, my regular bacon has less EVERYTHING -- fat, calories and 0 carbs... Why isn't it allowed? I used it in lieu of turkey bacon my first 2 weeks on Phase 1 and I dropped 12 lbs. I don't get why it isn't allowed.

nelie
09-12-2004, 09:28 PM
Well I don't think bacon isn't allowed because it'd stop weight loss, I think it is not allowed because it is higher in saturated fat. Personally, I don't think bacon should be allowed at all.

cac
09-13-2004, 07:38 AM
I eat the McDonals Cesear salad with grilled chicken when I am on the road. It is SBF.

cac

Ruthxxx
09-13-2004, 08:06 AM
Gee, cac, what about the croutons and bacon? And what's in the dressing? The grilled chicken sounds great though.

dynagrrl
09-13-2004, 08:58 AM
I ate a little bacon during phase 1 and 2 of the south beach and didn't have any issues. My overall fat content was low, and for me, it made eating salads a little more palatable. I also ate full fat cheese, and have lost about 25 pounds total (i have about 30 total to lose).

The best thing about this diet is everyone is different. I eat very low-fat over-all so I found that a little bacon and full-fat cheese here and there are fine. So maybe it's not to the letter of the South Beach, but it's important to remember that everyone is different and if having a McDonalds salad, that you LIKE, ever so often keeps you OP, then I personally think there is no harm in that. I also really enjoy the McD's salads, and when you are in a hurry, it's an option I can live with. Everyone's different.

Jenn.

beachgal
09-13-2004, 09:35 AM
Remember, chicks, that the reason Dr. A designed this diet in the first place was for heart health and good blood chemistry, not weight loss. Real bacon has such a high saturated fat content that I would run away screaming! :yikes: Turkey bacon is much better in the sat. fat issues, but still not perfect. I haven't tried Morningstar's veggie bacon yet...if it's good, that might be the best option yet.

As for the salad, bleu cheese is allowed...see many recipes in the SBD book and SBD cookbook for more info on that. You just want to use a small amount because it, too, is high in saturated fat.

So try the same salad, but ixnay on the bacon, okay?

The Fiesta meat has all sorts of odd ingredients, and several of them are either corn based, or have wheat in them, so it's not a great choice, and not a choice at all in phase 1.

I'd check the contents of Wendy's chili as well to make sure there is not wheat or corn additives.

Also check the chicken at McD's to see if sugar is added...some of them do. :(

Eating out at fast food places is hard! Can you get to a salad bar at a restaurant (Fresh Choice, Souplantation, Pizza Hut, Ruby Tuesday's) or at a grocery store and make your own salad? At a grocery store, you can get some meat in the deli and make your own cobb salad. Yum! :D

Barb0522
09-13-2004, 09:49 AM
I think it depends on how often you eat something if it matters if it is a little off plan. I typically eat out once a weekend for lunch (or less) and I try to stay away from McDonalds. What would be perfect would be the side salad from Wendy's with the dressings from McDonalds. Note that Wendy's side salad does have carrots so I didn't eat it in Phase 1. I typically get a Wendy's side salad (with dressing from home since I don't like creamy ranch) and a small chili.

The chili has: Ground Beef, Chili Base (Tomatoes, Salt, Citric Acid, Calcium Chloride), Chili Seasoning (Maltodextrin, Tomato, Salt, Modified Corn Starch, Chili Pepper, Sugar, Onion, Spices, Dextrose, Garlic, Soybean Oil, Xanthan Gum (thickener), Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Disodium Inosinate and Guanylate [flavor enhancers], colored with Paprika, Artificial Flavor, Silicon Dioxide [anti-caking agent]), Kidney Beans (Kidney Beans, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Natural Flavorings, Onion, Calcium Chloride, Disodium EDTA [preservative]), Chili Beans (Pink Beans, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Natural Flavorings, Onion, Calcium Chloride), Vegetable Mix (Onions, Celery, Peppers). Not perfect by any means but better than what I have seen at McDonalds.

The small chili has 200 calories, 2 grams of saturated fat and no trans fats, 5 grams fiber, 5 grams sugar and 17 grams protein. It does have 870 mg of sodium which is one reason I try to have it only once a week or less.

Three of McDonalds dressings appear okay from having 3 grams of sugar or less: Newman's Own® Creamy Caesar Dressing and Newman's Own® Low Fat Balsamic Vinaigrette as well as Newman's Own® Salsa but the caesar dressing has 190 calories and 3.5 grams of saturated fat.

swangirl
09-13-2004, 12:58 PM
Is Wendy's chili allowed for Phase 1? Or is the 'sugar' in the ingredient a no-no?

Thanks!

Barb0522
09-13-2004, 01:11 PM
I think it would be best to wait until Phase 2 since you really want to detox in Phase 1. Chili is so easy to make. Why don't you make up a big pot of the crockpot chili? It is so good and so easy.

I really tried to minimize the amount I ate out in phase 1 but I know that not everyone is able to do that.

swangirl
09-13-2004, 02:38 PM
You're right. I just checked the ingredients, etc. which says there is sugar and corn syrup in the chili :(

I was looking for something fast and cheap for lunch. I just went for a hamburger w/american cheese and no bun or ketchup.

beachgal
09-13-2004, 03:43 PM
The chili has: Ground Beef, Chili Base (Tomatoes, Salt, Citric Acid, Calcium Chloride), Chili Seasoning (Maltodextrin, Tomato, Salt, Modified Corn Starch, Chili Pepper, Sugar, Onion, Spices, Dextrose, Garlic, Soybean Oil, Xanthan Gum (thickener), Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Disodium Inosinate and Guanylate [flavor enhancers], colored with Paprika, Artificial Flavor, Silicon Dioxide [anti-caking agent]), Kidney Beans (Kidney Beans, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Natural Flavorings, Onion, Calcium Chloride, Disodium EDTA [preservative]), Chili Beans (Pink Beans, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Natural Flavorings, Onion, Calcium Chloride), Vegetable Mix (Onions, Celery, Peppers).

I bolded the ingredients that are problems. Granted, with only 5g of sugar, overall, these are not something to freak out about. But if I had the choice between a salad from a salad bar and some good grilled chicken or this...I would never choose the chili. Especially not in Phase 1, as Barb mentioned. And as she also, wisely, mentioned, you can make great chili at home for much less and just tote it with you! Most convenience stores have microwaves if you don't have one in your office--buy a water and use their microwave! :D Easy lunch out!

That said, if I was on the road and had to decide between McD's and Wendy's, I'd go with Barb's lunch. Much better.

weezle
09-13-2004, 09:09 PM
I haven't tried Morningstar's veggie bacon yet...if it's good, that might be the best option yet.

It's a staple in my diet. It's VERY tasty...you just might have to get used to the texture. I can't even really describe it. It's crispy.....just not like real bacon. I think it tastes pretty close to the real thing, from what I can remember, though. It's been a good 9 years since I've had real bacon. :D

beachgal
09-14-2004, 09:18 AM
Cool!

The woman who owned the B&B we visited in Maine gave it to the couple who kept kosher as their breakfast meat. The appearance was a bit off putting (it looked like "play food" for a Fisher Price kitchen! :lol: ), but they said it was tasty. Like you, though, I bet they haven't had bacon in a while. ;)

I'll have to try it...none of their other products has ever dissapointed me, so I doubt this will!

Do you think we could crumble it in a salad, Weezle?

BTW, as hamburgers go, your best bet is to make them at home with very lean meat. The ones in restaurants and fast food places are really full of fat. Of course, if you are in a pinch, you do what you have to, but try to avoid them and make yummy ones at home! A couple weeks ago, I made some with a small square of reduced fat cheddar in the middle. They were delicious! I was very unimpressed with the Atkins "Ketch-a-Tomato", but the Heinz Carb Options ketchup is delicious! :T

love2live
09-15-2004, 06:02 PM
>>I eat the McDonals Cesear salad with grilled chicken when I am on the road. It is SBF

I've got to check that one out-I usually get the Cobb with the Newman's balsamic dressing which is pretty yummy.

smilintwins
09-15-2004, 09:09 PM
Fast and cheap...swing into a Subway, I think it gives you the most options. JMHO.

weezle
09-15-2004, 09:32 PM
Do you think we could crumble it in a salad, Weezle?

Cook it a little longer in the microwave....I generally like mine crunchy, and cook 2 pieces for 45-50 seconds. Crumbles very nicely on salads. :)

weezle
09-15-2004, 09:38 PM
Is Wendy's chili allowed for Phase 1?

I'd say phase 2, but I have THE recipe. Want it? :D Soooo good.

Wendy's Chili

2 Tbsp. canola or olive oil
1 1/2 - 2 lbs. ground chuck (or Boca ground burger, if you prefer)
10 oz. can French onion soup
21 oz. can red kidney beans - un-drained
8 oz. can tomato sauce
6 oz. can tomato paste
1 Tbsp. chili powder
2 tsp. ground cumin
1/2 tsp. black pepper
3 drops Tabasco® Sauce

-In a large pot over medium-high heat, brown the beef in the oil, breaking up as it cooks; set aside.
-Puree soup in a blender; pour over beef.
-Stir remaining ingredients into pot.
-Simmer over low heat, stirring occasionally, for at least 30 minutes

I'm thinking that it's a "treat" and not for every day eating, but still. Big family? Or just have a fiance that will eat you out of house and home (COUGH) ? Mmmmm. I love Wendy's chili.

I have other recipes from restaurants, but most of them are SBD enemies.

Bunnababy
09-16-2004, 02:09 PM
Just a quick note that SBD site does allow and recommend eating chili and salad at Wendy's. In fact several of the salads at Wendy's were good. I will check later for you and see what they say about McDonald's. Ixnay of the bacon though is their recommendation. Blue Cheese is okay whe not overdone. I would have a harder time giving up the blue cheese than the bacon for salads.

Will get back to when I have time to check. ;)

beachgal
09-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Weezle, if you made the french onion soup yourself or looked at labels closely, I would think that the recipe you posted would be fine everyday. French onion soup often has sugar in it, at least in canned versions, so look them over carefully. Otherwise, enjoy! :D

AdiaFaith
09-16-2004, 04:57 PM
Again, I prefer to go with Applebee's. Don't have time for a sit-down break? Call ahead and pick it up!

Santa Fe Chicken Salad – Ask for dressing on side and no tortilla strips
Mesquite Chicken Salad – Ask for no corn and dressing on side
Chicken Tortilla Melt – Ask for no corn
Baja Chicken Wrap – Ask for no corn
Veggie Patch Pizza – Ask for whole wheat tortilla
Blackened Chicken Salad – Dressing on side and no bread
Caesar Salad – Chicken, Salmon, or Steak. Ask for no croutons and bread, dressing on side.

I have been working on a list of places to eat out and SB friendly meals to order this month. I should have it pretty well completed by the end of the month......then I'll take opinions and suggestions and post it to my SB blog.