South Beach Diet - Considering SB, but....




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redswirls
09-10-2004, 09:42 AM
I am not a big meat eater. Is this doable? I could maybe see myself eating fish/seafood a few days a week, but that's about it. Currently, I eat lots of pasta and breads (and junk!)...so skipping meat is easy.

Any suggestions?

I would like to start this weekend if I can build enough food options.


Barb0522
09-10-2004, 10:07 AM
You would need to have a healthy source of protein but there is nothing that says it must be meat. We have several vegetarians who follow South Beach and do quite well. Beans are a great source of protein and tofu is allowed. What type of protein are you getting now?

redswirls
09-10-2004, 11:43 AM
I am lacking protein in my present diet. I cannot stand beans or tofu. I do eat eggs, but seldom eat yolks that have the bulk of protein. I have added nuts in moderation, but my diet has mainly been processed crap...a ton of carbs!

My parents are both diabetic, which is controlled by meds. I am looking at SB to reduce my carbs and to be more aware of my higher risk of having high blood sugar levels. I am not diabetic now and consider myself fairly active, but I know that can easily change if I don't make dietary changes.


nelie
09-10-2004, 11:43 AM
Definitely need to make sure you eat protein, you'll have to do things like make sure you eat your serving of nuts every day, eat a lot of legumes, get in your dairy, if you eat eggs, be sure to eat your eggs. Are you willing to eat meat mixed with stuff? The white chili recipe in the recipe forum is quite good, the recipe calls for chicken but you can omit the chicken if you want. Definitely include fish/seafood in your diet when you are willing.

nelie
09-10-2004, 11:48 AM
I just read your second post but really you need to get protein in your diet somehow, not just for SBD but any healthy diet plan you may follow needs to have complete proteins in your diet. How do you like tuna? The canned albacore tuna is quite good especially adding a bit of mayonnaise, mustard, spices, tomatoes, celery, etc.

redswirls
09-10-2004, 11:58 AM
I am a strange eater! Always have been. Tune is not good...it is considered cat food in our house. (spoiled cats!). I may try and incorporate more fish or even chicken breasts into my diet to give SB a try. I have only come up with the eggs, nuts, and PB as protein sources I would eat off the list.

redswirls
09-10-2004, 12:04 PM
Does anyone have suggestions on incorporating soy in your diet? I'm wondering if that is another thing to consider, yet I not too sure what all forms are out there. I will not drink milk/soy milk products.

Heidi
09-10-2004, 12:14 PM
Well, if chicken is an option there are many ways to cook that. Same for fish. Maybe look to Japanese recipes for soya ideas? What about cheese?

Good luck with your weight loss! :yes:

Here is an excerpt from a CBS News article on SB and Vegetarianism:

"So what does a South Beach vegetarian eat?

Lots of vegetables, beans, legumes and soy products. Fruit and whole-grain foods - like whole-wheat pasta and old-fashioned oatmeal -- are allowed in moderation in the second and third phases of the diet.

If the vegetarian eats eggs and dairy products, those are allowed too -- as long as dairy is low-fat.

The first phase of the three-phase diet is the most restrictive, cutting out all fruit, bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and baked goods. It lasts for two weeks and promises eight to 13 pounds of weight loss.

Vegetarians might not see a dramatic weight loss in the first phase, said South Beach dietitian Marie Almon, because they are eating more carbohydrates than meat eaters.

In the next two phases, more fruit and other carbs are reintroduced. "

annie175
09-10-2004, 12:58 PM
I too, am vegetarian, however since starting south beach almost 3 weeks ago, I have picked up eating chicken and fish. You almost have too. I lost 9.5 in my first two weeks. I love the cheese option. and even the nuts. I eat a lot of "legal" veggies. I love SB, it is so easy.

Annie

nelie
09-10-2004, 01:28 PM
The reason i said albacore tuna is because it isn't the normal canned tuna, smoked tuna (if you can find it) is good as well. I have been having a rough time adding regular fish (not shellfish) to my diet because i am not the biggest fan of fish taste/smell. I really like the albacore tuna and it comes in big chunks or shredded, I like the shredded for making tuna salad.

AdiaFaith
09-10-2004, 02:25 PM
Shrimp was the easiest thing for me to add to my diet. We also do clam bakes and other shellfish here. I ate near vegetarian for Gabe Mirkin and there are lots of ways to pack in your protein without eating a whole lot of meat. I'm not a fan of beef or pork or plain fish. Here are my suggestions:

Try cottage cheese. If you don't like the texture so much try adding it to dishes after blending in the blender or food processor. I have a breakfast cheesecake recipe that includes blended cottage cheese and it is PROTEIN PACKED. That's why it is so wonderful for breakfast.

Natural Peanut Butter can be another friend to you, as long as you eat it within reason. I make a protein shake for snacks at times and the peanut butter adds tons of good healthy fats and proteins.

Eat yogurt for dairy daily.

Pick up some protein whey powder to make breakfast shakes.

Veggie Burgers and dogs are packed with protein.

The only way I eat soy is a soy burger. I think they're great!

Once you hop on Phase II start adding different grains, or as SB calls them, legumes. Brown rice is a staple in our home. So many ways to cook it. Pick up a rice cooker if this is the route you plan to take. They are great! Barley can be used just like Brown Rice for a different texture. There are other grains that we use for breakfasts and side dishes such as Quinoa that we used frequently. Satisfaction and taste are key elements!

Good luck! :D

jenne1017
09-10-2004, 02:25 PM
nelie -- good fish isn't supposed to smell like, well, fish. If it does, it's bad!

Try going to a real butcher and starting off with a mahi-mahi or flounder. Salmon is good too -- but I didn't always think so. I had to aquire a taste for it. And now I love it!!!

wendyjo
09-10-2004, 03:25 PM
AdiaFaith, legumes are beans, not grains.

AdiaFaith
09-10-2004, 03:46 PM
woops, thought they were all lumped together. Barbies on the brain here, sorry ladies.

nelie
09-10-2004, 07:47 PM
jenne, I know about smelling fresh fish but things like regular canned tuna (not the albacore kind) smell fishy as well as when you cook the fish, the fish smell comes out. I can eat salmon some days, but i easily get sick of it, so I am not doing that. I bought some chilean sea bass which was ok but not great. I'm working on the fish thing, last night I had collosal shrimp! mmm they taste like lil lobsters, i love shellfish, its the regular fish I have to work on.

redswirls
09-11-2004, 12:33 AM
Thanks for the tips AdiaFaith!

girl81
09-11-2004, 09:31 AM
for me, a change in lifestyle has completely changed what i crave. i used to despise celery... now it's one of my favorite foods. i crave what i have made staples in my diet, i think partly because my body has realized it's that or nothing. haha
i also wanted to say, fish and seafood are EXCELLENT sources of protein.
good luck to you. :)

Essie1421
09-11-2004, 11:50 AM
I agree, girl81. When I am not stuffed with junk food, most other healthful foods taste very good to me. I can not believe how much I now enjoy raw vegetables and fruit these days. I'm not wild about fish, either, but there is a new kind of salmon that comes in an envelope in the canned food section. It's good, as well as the tuna with spices and herbs in envelopes in the canned food section.
Good luck, redswirls. Taste buds are sometimes difficult to retrain.

chick_on_the_beach
09-12-2004, 01:44 AM
I eat a lot of non-meat meals on SB Diet so it is doable but it depends on how finicky you are. I make omelettes and frittata with vegies in them because they don't really taste like eggs but are full of protein. I eat a lot of greek salads, make a stir fry with nuts, make vegetarian chilli using italian vegies, canned tomatoes and beans, eat lots of yogurt, and make home made vegetable or minestrone soup. I don't eat tofu or use much cottage cheese. I am not sure how you would get on in phase one because that was when I ate mostly meat and salads.

beachgal
09-13-2004, 10:52 AM
I am lacking protein in my present diet. I cannot stand beans or tofu. I do eat eggs, but seldom eat yolks that have the bulk of protein. I have added nuts in moderation, but my diet has mainly been processed crap...a ton of carbs!

Reswirls, I don't mean to be unsupportive, but if you are going to live a vegetarian lifestyle, you need to find healthy sources of protein and eat them, whether you like them or not. Of course, you can find great ways to prepare them that are tasty to you, but if they still are not palatable, you need to just eat them. I hate veggies, but I've learned to eat them...some are not favorites, but I have found that there are many I can eat if I cook them in ways that are tastier than others, and then just pinch my nose and get through it. I'm never going to love veggies, but I know I need to eat them for my health, so I do it.

If you want to be in good health and live a long life, you need to do this as well (eat the food you need whether you like it or not). Explore sources of soy protein other than tofu, use dairy, find beans that you do like, etc. I am sorry if this sounds harsh, but I have two friends who were in the hospital, and one almost died, because they were committed to being vegetarian but did not eat any protein. One, my cousin, lost her highly sought-after career as a ballerina with a major company because she collapsed on stage. She was hospitalized for a very long time and was never able to dance again. :cry: Please take gentle care of yourself and make sure you are getting your protein.

Have you tried Morningstar brand vegetarian patties? They are excellent and good sources of protein. Keep looking...I bet you'll find things you can eat, and maybe even enjoy.