Dieting with Obstacles - Fibromyalgia 126

OK ... here we go ... new thread sure 'nough this time!!! :lol:

Hope all the sick are doing better. I'm still being a couch potato most of the time. I'm getting out and about some but not as much as I was. I'm supposed to go help a friend put some border up in our pastor's study this afternoon about 4 but that shouldn't take but a couple of hours then it's back to bed for me. I got a couple of movies yesterday when I went to town to get my nails done and had lunch with my daughter, so see ... I'm not completely hibernating! ;) We're supposed to go to a picnic tomorrow evening but it's raining today and supposed to linger ...

I'll go move Anne's message from the other board over here ... don't know how she got her wires crossed up! :p

HERE'S ANNE'S POST:

Good morning ladies.

Candice - 23,000 steps. You must have not stopped walking for hours!!! I feel like I have walked a long time when I walked 8000 or 10,000 steps. I don't think my hip would ever agree to that many Glad you are able to do it though.

Mima - Yes, you do seem to be taking Meme's place in the busy department. It is nice you got your space rented for the winter. I hope they don't have hurricanes then as well. That is just too scarey.

Joanne - How's it going! I hope you have a found a way to get happy again. You have just had a lot to deal with. How has your neck been?

Anagram - Take time for fun as it is important!!! Sound like you are doing just that. Glad your hubby is getting better. I am another that can't seem to tolerate anti-inflammatories. Was supposed to try to take 2 Celebrex for 10 days; made it to day 6 and then my stomach started burning like crazy so had to stop. I take another med with it for my stomach but didn't seem to do much good. I have tried a lot of anti-inflammatories but my stomach just can't tolerate them. That is how I gained this darn weight to start with. I just have to eat to stop the stomach pain. Even after I finished taking them, it seemed to go on and on. Like Candice, I just don't do well with pain meds. Thank God, I don't have to take anything except the Sotalol for the Arrythmia business. That one also causes weight gain. Sometime you just can't win!!!

Meme - hope you are still taking life a little easier. Glad to hear that your ankle is starting heal some.

Hope you all have a good day.
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ANNE (sorry Anne ... didn't move the cat!) :p

It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not.

OK, well thank you Meme. Don't know what happened there :lol: Not paying attention I guess. Could have sworn I started a new thread. Anyway, glad you are taking life a little easier and TAKING the time to rest. Thanks for moving this post over here!!

Thanks for the new thread!!!!Glad to see you resting Meme. Gotta make an appt. with doc for allergy med. My nose spray doesn't work and my other prescript ran out. Thia is awesome. Some friends of ours are going to drive my car down and back and visit us and go to a conference with us in Orlando. all we have to do is buy them airline tickets and give them gas money. We are now finalizing the plans. Hope your sister is doing well Joanne. How are you guys fixed for the hurricane. Mike is in preparation mode-stocking up on baby food, diaperes, and ice in case he loses electricity. My girlfriend is down there signing for her new house. Going to church today to hopefully finish marking with 2 helpers. Got up early. I guess I will go back to the couch. Mima

Saying prayers, Joanne, for you and your daughter and also for Mike and family. Have friends in path as well.

Hello Everybody.. The storm is supposed to pass just above my head. If it shifts just a little it will wet my back yard.. :lol: :lol: You never can tell about these things. I live a mile from the Gulf so you see it could pass right over me going out to the water. My hubby is saying his greek prayers it goes further north in the state..
We haven't put anything away yet. Tomorrow!!My daughter called and wanted us to come up to north Fl. I told her I was staying right where I am..
Eleni is doing O.K. It is just the waiting to get this resolved..
Mima-I am sureyour family will be fine.. The storm will be further north than he is..
Hey Anagram.. Weather doesn't scare me.. I have lived in Fl. all my life and seen worse than this storm..
Happy- I am fine.. I guess like everyone I get my low days. I started walking a little more on a regular basis. I managed 3 days this week.
Meme- Happy is right.. I don't know how you do as much as you do..Slow down..Take care of yourself..Hope that leg keeps right on healing for you..
Bye for now...Joanne

Good morning. Thank God the storm weakened-it sounds like the rain is going to be a problem. We went to a new restaurant last night. I had salmon-it was good and we both took home half our meals. I am going to clean today. We actually finished all the pricing at church-it's great when you have help and fun too!!! One of them is in her seventies-and a little deaf. But what a worker! I guess it's going to get cool here this weekend-I told Brad I wanted to do something but I don't know what. Have a good weekend everyone. Waiting is hard Joanne-Bye for now. Mima

Hi This is Joanne's sister Eleni. First want to thank you for all your prayers in my behalf.Do keep them going.
Joanne is fine but she lost her electricity yesterday. She has several trees down in her yard. But no damage to her home.The heat is very uncomfortable and it is no fun to have no electricity. I am so lucky that I still have mine. But wanted to let you know she is ok and she will get back on line hopefully within a day or two.

Thanks so much, Eleni, for sending us that word on Joanne. Glad you're doing ok and were safe during the hurricane too.

Hi Eleni-yes, we have been praying . I hope Joanne gets her electricity back soon-Mike had his out for 2 days. Pretty soon we will get that rain but not the wind. Luckily, we have our FL home with us in the back yard. I did ALL my ironing yesterday-every piece-and put a bunch in a pile for Fl. Going to the docs today with a list-I have a bunch of warts on my big toe-and my allergy spray doesn't work-from head to toe, I need help. Then we have to go to lawyers to sign papers for the condo. Closing on the 15th. We still haven't gotten the money from Brad's mother's house!!!! We are going to pay off this house and the camper and have money to buy something in FL. That's the plan but it's in God's hands. Bye for now Mima

Hello Everybody-- Well we made it through without too much damage.. We lost power for about 24 hrs. No fun! Part of a tree in the front yard went down. It is a huge grand oak. We will have to take the rest out. It is damaged and too near the house to be safe . Ivan will surely do it in.. Lots of clean up in my yard.. We worked all day yesterday. Boy am I sore. My son is hiring a tree man to take care of some more of it.
Back another time .Love ya all...Joanne

Glad you are OK Joanne ... and it's good to 'see' Eleni, too! Always dread the storms. We usually get ours in the spring here. Getting some rain today ... still being a couch potato ... have a loooong way to go! I'm just thankful every day for everything I have and that I am ABLE to be a couch potato whenever I want!!! ;) God is good!

Good morning! Glad you got your electricity back. What is with all these hurricanes. Now Ivan!!! We are getting Frances's rain but no wind. I went to the docs yesterday and had 9 warts removed. One on my typing finger and 8 on my toe-it still hurts to walk but good to have them gone. I also have to have a stress test because once in a while I get a pain in my lower chest when walking . It could be from congestion or stomache reflex but they have to rule out the heart, Yikes-I am getting old!!!!The thing I mind is no coffee. Keep resting Meme. I am rereading the Purpose Driven Life. The people who are driving our car to FL are coming over to dinner tomorrow night so I have 2 days to get ready. Got some Cortland apples yesterday-they are awesome. Mima

Going to see a play tonight ... Smoke on the Mountain. It's a comedy. I saw the sequel to it last year and it was really good. It's about a church service at a little country church up in the Mountains ... the preacher has some singers come in and they completely take over his service. He trys to get them to sit down but they keep getting up in the middle of his sermon and telling funny stories and singing songs. It's at the Cumberland County Playhouse but at the Playhouse they have 3 auditoriums. A huge one and 2 small ones and it's in one of the small ones. The stage floor is wood and the way they set it up it's just like the inside of an old church building ... they even use a pot bellied stove for one of their props and they use the audience as the church congregation. The sequel is Saunder's Family Christmas and in it, the church likes the singers so much they forget how they took over the service and invite them back for a Christmas service and they take over the service again. It was so funny ... they even set the Christmas tree on fire and the lights went out. The actors are professionals and they are really good ... can't wait ... were all going to the Cumberland State Park restaurant and eat catfish first! YUM! ;) (There's 50 of us going so we'll be 1/4 of the 'congregation'! :lol:

Play sounds like fun, Meme.

Beautiful starlit morning out there today. So much rain, cloudiness, I'd almost forgotten starlight.

Saw dr yesterday. Referred me to gastro to rule out ulcer though he and I both still think it's the meds. He wants to be sure not to just mess around and make things worse - one thing I like about him. So I'm still eating lots of oatmeal and the like and not losing an ounce. His scale made it official - I haven't lost since my June visit. I did - I lost the five lbs I put on overnight when I started the new med. I'm complaining a lot about the bad side effects of it but I must also say I feel better overall on it now. Can think a bit more clearly too. In fact, I feel lucky to be on it before I actually had a stroke or something.

Still working on clearing out stuff - a never ending chore. Making some good headway in clearing out old files. DH joined in the last two days (finally) and also made some good progress.

DS coming this weekend sans DDIL. I love her but it's nice to once in a while have some quiet time with just DS. Plus I'm hoping for a chore or two and a little computer help. Best b.d. gift he could give me.

Have a good one.

That sounds so great, Meme. Well, we are waiting for another hurricane!!!Mike says he will leave if he has to. Been trying to get airline tickets for the kids but they are so expensive. Thinking about going down on the train and back on the plane. we have so many Amtrak miles, we could get the train free. Having company tonight-boy is my house clean. Was going to have a kielbasa boiled dinner but one of the guests doesn't like it so we are switching to ham. Bye for now-gotta watch the weather channel-where is Candice? Mima

Well good morning-sure hope Ivan stays west. What a time for hurricanes. It's lovely around here-getting cooler. I am still in pain from having those warts removed from my foot. Bye for now Mima

Hello All..It looks like Ivan may pass me by.. That is the good news in this part of Fl.. I have a little medical problem that sent me to the E.R. last week.. They say I have a solid mass on my L ovary.. I say a GYN Dr. today and told him to take them out..I told him a 71 year old women didn't need ovaries. He agreed.As it would in a lot of mixups ,the office didn't send my records to him when they sent the referral.. He is going to check my records and call me in a few days...It is probably just a fibroid,but, I still don't want to keep it..
I hope you all are well. I see that no one has been here in a few days..
Bye,Joanne

Oh, Joanne, I'm sorry to hear that. Surgery is never good at any age or for any reason! The sooner the better, though. My prayers are with you girl friend! And for Ivan passing you by, too!!!

:goodscale I lost another pound ... don't know how ... I ate like a pig last weekend (I bet I ate 6,000 calories from Friday morning to Sunday night). But, got up this morning and it was gone. I was losing about a pound a week like clock work and then just stopped. But that's the first pound I've lost in over a month now. My friend made 'taco bake' for dinner after church yesterday and it was sooooo good. (Ground chuck, refried beans, Pace picane sauce ... topped with cheese and baked - add lettuce, tomatoes, cheese and taco chips) I was stuffed ... and then she made coconut cream cake for dessert. I bet I ate over 1,000 calories at that one meal. And I STILL lost weight today. I told hubby at dinner tonight that we were going to have to start eating at her house all the time! Evidently the calories in HER food don't count. :lol: I took a friend out for lunch at a Tai restaurant Friday and then we had a BD party Friday night with pizza and BD cake. My MIL cooked for me at lunch Sat. ... all fried foods with beans and okra, etc. (She was 'butterin' me up ... she wanted me to cut her hair) ;) Then Sat. night we went to a 'Fun Fest' up on the Cookeville Square ... They had it all blocked off and had singing in the streets and crafts and a cookoff. I had a pulled pork sandwich up there. Then we went back to our friend's house and had pie and popcorn and played cards. Then Sunday the taco bake and ate out after church Sun. night. I probably had MORE than 6,000 calories. Hubby had to have him a little lovin' tonight ... said he had to get it while I was still skinny. :p I think he's afraid if I keep eating like this I'll gain that pound + back!!! :eating2: But ... I'm back to normal eating today ... whatever that is. I just eat what I want, when I want it ... when I'm hungry and I stop when I get full. I only had ONE piece of pizza at the party and a small piece of the cake. But I had a large piece of the coconut cake because I love coconut cake. It's a give and take thing with me. I eat what I like and leave what I don't like and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat at all.

Where is everybody? Where's Anne and Candice??? The board has been awful quiet for the last week. I'm really missing Ally, too. I wish she'd get her computer at home working and get back in here. I'm going to try to be a couch potato again this week, had too active a weekend. But I'm going to work on the laptop all week so I'll be in touch.

Wow meme-Joanne, we have been watching the hurricane for days and are so glad its going west-too bad for the people in the panhandle-wish it would just disappear-I have a fibroid too but it doesn't give me any problems-you have a good attitude. Hpe you recover fast. Where is everyone? My foot still hurts from where the doc burned off the warts. And I am going with Auntie today but yesterday she couldn't walk because she has pseudo-gout from eating things with the red dye 40 that she is allergic too. She was a bad girl. We are a weid bunch in my family-pains from the food we eat!!!!And my cousin has fibro. Auntie thinks my grandmother had it too. Bye for now Mima

Meme- I think I gained weight reading what you ate.. I would be up in weight, I know, eating it.. I hate Dr. scales. They had me up 5 lbs. I came home and weighted the next day and was much below theirs..Yes ,thank God this storm may pass us up.. I will relax when it has passed out of Fl. My daughter lives in North central Fl.
Mima- I told the Dr. I wanted it out. Now I have to wait and see what he decides.. I think a lot of the discomfort I have been having is from this..
Hello everybody... Joanne

I just read an article in Woman's World that said if you drink 8 cups (or 8 oz glasses of iced) green tea a day you would lose a pound a week even if you did nothing else ... no dieting or exercise ... didn't change your eating habits ... just stayed the same (as long as you didn't add honey or sugar to the tea, just artificial sweether). I just had a cup of green tea (and a half can of pringles). :dizzy:

I drink green tea every day but only one cup. Plain. 8 cups a day has a lot of caffiene and caffeine takes calcium out of your bones. At least you are not supposed to drink too much cola. That I know. Anyhow-I broke my glasses and had to get new frames but the good news is they had some in the office and they were fixed on the spot which is good because I am going to work Thurs and Friday. Got an appt for my stress test in OCt and also am probably going to have cataract surgery. Insurance will pay if you have a good reason. Otherwise I will have to wait 4 more years and I can't drive at night. And I can't see good in the daytime-far away. Can't read signs until I am on top and then it's toolate. My friend had the surgery Monday and she is working tomorrow with me. Things have sure changed. Same thing happened to another friend. Joanne, I would have that out. Otherwise I would worry. Bye for now and where is Candice? Mima

Meme-Mima and Everybody...I plan to do the best I can to get the mas and both overiers out. Just waiting for the Dr to call me.
I keep a pitcher of green tea(decaf) in my fridg all the time. I have at least 4+ glasses a day..
It is a little breezy here ,but the storm is passing us by. Thank God..
Back later...Joanne

Good morning.

Sorry I have been away. Had company all last week, and the computer is in the spare room, so when I had time the room was busy :)

This week, I have been down with a sinus problem. Just don't feel very good. Hopefully, it is on it's way out.

Mima - I hope your foot is getting better. That must be painful.

Meme - If I ate even half of that I would be a blimp. Hope you take the time to relax that foot some more. It must be helping.

Joanne - so sorry to hear you have a fibroid. That may be uncomfortable, depending on what it presses on and how large it is. I think I would be like you, and just want them to remove it and everything with it. I am so happy to hear that Ivan isn't coming your way and I am certain you are relieved about that. Boy, I couldn't stand to live there. Here it is cold, but after July/Aug we don't have Tornado problems anymore, and even during their peak months they are few and far between. I guess you just get accustomed to where you live and deal with whatever comes along.

Hi Candice, wherever you are. You seem to be gone even longer than me! Hi also to Anagram, who I hope is busy with her hubby, out enjoying life.

Everybody have a good day.

I have had that terrible pelvic pain again so trying not sit at the computer for too long....., it's been about 2 years now and my hips have been acting up so I deceid to seemy family doc.......Here is what he said and I am not a happy camper!

Had to vent! I went to my family doc to see if I had a UTI but seems he thinks all my pain is in my head!!!!!!!! He thinks I am depressed ( I don't think so, stressed and anxious but not depressed)..so he will not treat me for any more conditions unless I see a counselor to treat my psyco-symatic symptoms of Fibro!!!!!!!!!!!! That is why I do not go to the doctor very often, it has been two years since I was seen by his office. He ran some tests, just bloodwork and all was normal so he says I am depressed because I can't tolorate cold anymore. (thyroid is normal) I agreed to see a councelor but knew DH would have a fit because our insurance does not pay for it. (and he did) We have alot of stress with DH's family and I have tried to get him into counceling but he will not go. Yes I have stress(who doesn't these days) and I know stress makes my pain worse but I do not think stress is the cause of my pain. He thinks Fibro is not real and well all can be cured of our pain with medication or counseling. If that were true I would jump at the chance to rid my body of this. I just feel so bullied by him, I get tired of hearing it is all in my head. He would not order an xray for my hips either, says I have good mobility (which I work hard to keep) so must not be arthritis!!!!!!!!!!! Are we all really just a bunch of depressed people causing our own pain!!!!!!!!!! I do not think so what is your opinion!!!!!! Be honest please........I do not think I seem like a depressed person but if someone does not help me with my pain I'm gonna be ;)

Don't expect me to post much as long as I can't sit for long! (makes my imaginary pain wosre!!!!!!:D Now I am going to go shoot myself!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Oh he also said that if he sat around and watched TV all day( referring to Fibro patients) he would get depressed too. (he was saying that people that do not work and he does not consider my gardening, cooking, reading enough to keep me busy) are gonna get depressed! I'm pis*ed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Celestial Seasonings makes green tea that is decaffeinated. You can buy a box of 40 tea bags at Wal Marts for about $3 and it's really good. Just add Splenda and you can drink tea all day long with no side effects and no calories.

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Guess we were posting at the same time, Candice ... so I will add to what I posted (above).

No ... your pain is probably not IN YOUR HEAD! Although, some of may be caused by stress. Whose isn't??? Stress does bring on pain and health problems but then, the problems are real and the pain itself is real and needs to be treated. Fibromyalgia is a real disease ... as is arthritis. Your doctor sounds like a fool to me and if I were you I would be finding me a new doctor. As for your husband seeing a councelor ... I can see how that would be a problem. And your husband going into therapy probably wouldn't make your pain any better anyway ... I'm not the least bit depressed from my family, friends, home life, money matters, weight, looks, life or anything else except maybe my HEALTH and I'm still in so much pain I can't sleep at night. So what does that make me??? Seriously ... I have the perfect job for a person with arthritis and fibromyalgia, I have just enough to keep me busy and interested but not too much and I don't HAVE to work if I feel really bad because I'm my own boss on both jobs! I have a husband who cares about me and helps with all my work, does whatever I ask him to without complaining ... cooks, helps with housework, will even shop when needed to and takes me out to eat when I don't want to cook. He demands NOTHING of me. My son and daughter ask me to keep their kids now and then but they are great kids all in all and I have 4 beautiful grandchildren that I love dearly. Perfect in-laws who very seldom bother me and would do anything for me ... very sweet mother-in-law. I love my church and have many friends there plus have 2 other couples who are closer than brothers and sisters ... we go out and eat, go to each other's houses & eat and play cards, go to concerts and plays, etc. We ate out together tonight and we're going to the Boat Dock Restaurant (on the water) for catfish and then playing cards this weekend. We're always together. I have a huge host of other relatives that I'm close to in NC and I visit them, write them cards and emails and call them regularly. I live on about 80 acres of land and I love my home and my dog and my family and friends and wouldn't trade lives with anybody ... now ... I said all that to say this: I HURT. I hurt when I wake up in the mornings, I hurt a luch time, I hurt at dinner time, I hurt before I go to bed, I hurt in the middle of the night. WHY??? Because I'm depressed??? NO! Because I have Fibromyalgia and Arthritis. Depression makes you SAD. Fibromyalgia and Arthritis bring you pain.

GO FIND YOU ANOTHER DOCTOR!

Candice what a bunch of balony he is feeding you. I do think lot's of people are depressed, but I am NOT one of them. I had a pain specialist tell me the same thing. I told him I was frustrated and bored, but not depressed. He gave me an anti-depressant to take - I took one and it lasted me for a few days :lol: Anyway, my own family Dr. gives me 10mg of Doxipin and it seems to work well for sleep. He started me out on 25mg but I couldn't wake up.

Can you not go see a different Dr. That is what I would do, before going for counselling. I don't see how depression can make you cold for heaven sakes. Did he give you an internal? Also, my mobility is very poor because I can't walk all the time or be very active. I do have o/a in my lower back and hips and my knee. I am active when I can be and do my walking then, but there are more times when I can't do it. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is.

I don't think it's in our heads at all!!

Happy you are up late! DH is furious, I just do not want to have to start seeing antoher doc or go through this with another...he did this to me about 10 years ago when I was diagnosed with Lyme, said that doc was crazy and just wanted my money. I had a positve blood test for lyme and then was diagnoised with post lyme Fibro......I do not mind the couceling ( but the expense and time it takes )and it might help to deal with dH's family, but I did try it several years ago and it didn't.

Oh he also told me I need to stop taking my estrogen that women over 50 don't need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not think so!

We have outside painters here so I am not getting much sleep while they are scraping and banging around........I asked DH tonight if I could have my own room and he said no way again.........I'm gonna go live with Meme!

I'd like that ... come on down ... go back and read my post script on the last post.

I am so glad you all agree with me, I was doubting myself again, DH is really pis*ed at the doc!!!!!!!!!!! He lives with me and says no way am I depressed or imagining my pain, he knows the stuff I do to bring it on around here!

The doc also said people with fibro are couch potatoes that watch tv all day long and and do not have any interest to keep them busy so they think up their pain....I'm just hoppin' mad about now...ooooh maybe I will burn some calories! ;)

Meme, according to this doc depression causes physical pain too...I have heard of that before but I'm pretty sure it is not causing my pain....maybe some folks who are hypo's...............I am not SAD my only complaint is pain...........that he cannot find a cure for therefore it isn't real!

Candice, whether you like it or not, it is time to find a new Dr. Let your fingers do the walking through the yellow pages, and find a Dr. who is knowledgable about FM. This Dr. of yours is an idiot. He will NEVER help you, so you need to find somebody who can. Don't just sit around and suffer with the pain. You need to get something to help you.

I am sure there are quite a few people with FM who are depressed and are couch potatoes because of it, but not everybody. I don't suffer from depression at all, thank goodness.

Drs. believe that pain causes depression and depression causes pain and it is just a vicious cycle. That is why they want you to take anti-depressants as they think it breaks the cycle. I don't know why they think everybody is depressed, but it seems if you don't have a shrink you are certainly not in the "in crowd" :lol: Personally, I think most of them are just plain nuts themselves.

Candice-I go to a rheumotologist for fibro but I was fortunate that a long time ago, my gp sent me to him. Your doc is nuts!!!!!Ps chronic pain causes depression!!!so if you have any, it might be from the pain. Actually, an anti-depressant is good for fibro at night because it helps you sleep-standard treatment. Every once in a while we seem to meet up with a doc that doesn't get it-sorry it had to be you. Half day of work today then off for a week. Hey meme-are you getting the rain? Mima

Boy am I EVER getting the rain. Talk about something that will cause you to be depressed ... get a few days of this weather!

Seriously though, I went through a mental breakdown and I don't ever want to go back there again. The Doctors give you pills for depression and a lot of the time they make you MORE depressed ... not always, but a lot of the time they make the depression worse than it was. I know ... been there - done that! I think the best thing that could happen to some of these docs is for them to get a little taste of the fibro for themselves ... just let them see what it's like! They'd change their tune in a hurry! Big babies would be in bed in a flash! The only thing saving me is I have a huge amount of inflamation in my body and cartilage loss which both shows up in Xrays and blood tests ... it can all be measured and seen. So ... the doctors all believe I'm in pain! Then I have an Asian doctor who fimly believes in fibro and so does my family doc. So I'm just lucky about that. My Rheumatologist in Nashville will give me cortisone shots in the joints anytime I ask and 100 Darvocets at a time with refills galore ... no questions. He's great. He knows I won't abuse the meds. I'm really careful because I don't want to become dependent. But, he recognizes that I'm in pain ... that's the great thing about my doctors. NONE of them act like my pain is a figment of my imanination. So - Candice - If I were you, I NEVER go back to that doctor again. Actually, I walked out on a doctor kind of like him once and told him on my way out the door that I'd never be back ... that's just the way I am. He was treating me for migraines (or pretending to) and very condescending. He kept me waiting for hours, wouldn't accept my insurance (when he used to ... but he stopped) and then he started saying I needed to see a shrink that I was depressed and something must be wrong at home that I was having the migraines yadda yadda yadda so I just told him what I thought about him and his sloppy office etc. and I told him I wouldn't be back ... got up and walked out. Best thing I ever done. I had been going to him for years, I found a new doctor who stopped my migraines with a new med. AFTER 30 YEARS OF HAVING THEM!!! It's hard to change doctors but sometimes it's worth the effort!

Candice- Mima and Meme is right.. Get another doctor!!!!I am one who is against taking any pills the Dr.'s decide to hand out just to get rid of me..They want to put us on mood swinger drugs and get rid of us. I wonder if they let their wives or daughters take them. I bet it is a different story then..I make it a practice to always look up on the net any meds I am given to take.. I want to know the side effects not just now but down the road years from now.. Believe me you can have side effects years down the road..
My Dr. called me today and set a date for surgery. I hope this is the end of my problems.. Have a good night...Joanne

I am glad you have a date Joanne-get it over with. I had the easiest time working-yesterday we went in and did an hour and a half's work and got paid for 4 , So Mary Alice and I went shopping and went back for lunch. Then I went home. It's pouring here today but it's supposed to stop-hopefully in time for Brad's church to sell Apple Crisp at their church, They have a Johnny Appleseed Festival in their city of Leominster. Candice, does you insurance cover specialists because I suggest you go to a rheumotologist. They sure know about fibro and have for years. .I had a doc that told me I had arthritis 35 years ago and I was araid I'd be crippled but it was the beginning of fibro. Course the treatment was the same-at the time, aspirin. But he didn't take blood tests. And I found out that he was an alcoholic because I met his wife in Al-anon. Funny. Bye for now. Mima

You know gals the really funny thing is that DH and I see a psychiatrist on a 2-4 times a year schedule to deal with his nutty family and all the stress that goes along with it...he is the only one that will treat my fibro, I just take my reasearch stuff in on Fibro and if there are any new treatments, meds or some kind of thearapy that needs a dr. recomendation he usually does it for me. He does believe in Fibro but needs me to give him the lastest research on it so I do but I know I really need another doc to take charge, was hoping my son could do when he gets through with med school in several years!:D
the doc (shrink as you all call them)we see, has health problems though and sometimes falls asleep during our conversation! (he is old but I like him). My family doc is only used for things that might need an antibiotic like and infection, but he thinks he can solve all my pain by telling me it is depression....If I am so depressed why does my psychiatist not think so!!!!!!!!!!!!! DH did call the counseling place to see if insurance will pay and they siad 60% and it's 200 a visit with a 2 times a month min. Dh and I thought maybe it might be good for both of us and help us with his family, but he says we cannot afford it while we are helping our kids. So you see I have nothing against counsleing or thearapist or psychiatrists...just cocky know it all docs! All my records are there for the past 20 years and they will not transfer them unless you pay a big fee, there are other docs in his office but only one is nice. I just want to prove him wrong and then go back in say I told you so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a glutton for punishment.................I guess....I am still ticked off just need to get it out of my system and then I will drop it.

There is a new antidepressent just out to treat pain and has been used in Fibro successfully, supposed to be not many side effects but I wonder....I might give it a try this visit.........it is called Duloxtine. Also pregablelin has been approved too but it cause serious weight gain for sure............... I try to just keep busy and work through my pain as you all know and do too. I am at 13,000 steps and did 40 minutes of strength training today, some yard work and made fudge (lot of arm work) for my sister who is having surgery next week. Now do I sound like a depressd person or a couch potato????????????? What really upsets me is that I have had no sleep this week due to our painters and that makes me very emotional and he upset me so much that I was in tears which he thought confirmed my depression.............I always cry when I don't get enough sleep, but I know that is normal for me. I just do not know how you find a good doc to treat fibro...I am told there are no good ones in our area by our support group leader that are taking new patients. Okay I'm done whining now!;)

Oh.. the rhume I used to see just wanted to give me antinflamatory meds and always said he has all the pain I have and we were the same age so learn to live with it. He was compassionate though...just couldn't do much for me since I can't take those types of meds. He used to give me trigger point injections too but they didn't help. I just don't like to see doctors........................................... ..................too many bad experinces:eek:

I wrote a book....sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that you guys are having a good weekend.. I am still cleaning up my yard after Frances. I got most of the front done. The back is a disaster area.. We now have a huge oak tree that has to be taken out. I guess I may have the front to do over...Yuk!!My hubby is yelling that I am going to end up in the hospital .Heck, I am going there anyhow the first week of Oct.I'll get a few days of rest!!!
Bye...Joanne

joanne...why isn't hubby out there helping? he sounds to much like mine! Did I miss the post about your surgery? what are you having done.... My sis is having a hysterectomy and gallbladder this week so I made some stuff to send to her, fudge , cookies and got a bottle of wine to mail to her....she loves her choc and wine!

Good morning-well Ivan's rain just stopped and they couldn't have the Apple Festival but the wedding we are going to today will be ok. Supposed to sign on the condo tomorrow and also send us money from Brad's house. It's a new day for us with no mortgages. Listen to this-my daughter has a bad cold and her boyfriend brought her flowers and the Red Sox hat she wanted and then went out for pizza. Even though she told him she didn't want to give him her cold. they are doing so much better now-gotta save some condo money for the wedding.Ha!!!!!!I would be happy to have him for a son-in-law and he comes from a very nice family. Now gotta get someone for those 2 boys of ours. Have a good weekend. Mima

Joanne, hope all goes smoothly on the surgery. And that it will be the end of your pain (in that area anyway). DD gets this pain too from ovarian cysts and there's always a lot of medical confusion because apparently hers come and go.

Woke up to some rain in basement and no power yesterday morning but all cleared up by late morning and I did some "me" shopping and went to a little street festival in the afternoon.

Had great b.d. DS was up last weekend from Sat-Mon. Did some computer work for me and some outside chores as well. Then went to DD's on Wednesday - she took us to dinner, girls had no school on Thursday (off for Rosh Hashanah in their area) so spent good time with them. Worked out well for DD as well as her dh was travelling from Mon-Friday so she had a bit of time to get out and choose things for their basement which is being finished off. Mtg. sister for lunch today after Mass. Her dh and their three sons met up in Pittsburgh for a Pitt football game and a Pirates baseball game - a tradition they've been doing since the two older boys moved to the P. area (one has since moved to DC area and the youngest lives near Philly so it's more effort but I'm sure worth it).

Still having problems w/stomach, seeing GI on Tuesday. Going back for 6 mo recheck of recheck on right breast. Say a prayer, please. I've had cysts removed from the area in question maybe 8 times in the last 35 years, including one in the last six months. I'm hoping that last one will have cleared up the question (this has also occurred in the past). But with all that history, one of these days I just may run out of luck. So yet another busy week.

Candice, I've run into at least two horrible doctors that I could put in the category of yours easily. I too thought if you can just hang on until your son finishes medical shcool, you'll have good help. DDILs bro is a doctor and he monitors the health care for his family. Gives you a lot of reassurance. DS talked to him when doctors said DHs kidney problems are something the kids have a 50/50 chance of getting. And I feel better that he'll be sort of guiding him. DD has seen doctors, had tests, etc. and seems to have been cleared (which means granddaughters will be ok too) but son's "family" doctor says there's no indication he needs to even do that. I think you're right though that your current psych. would have picked up on any depression. Plus, I think we all have some of that when we're hurting physically. I had talked to my dr. about that last year when dh was so bad and my mother had just died, etc. He said he'd give me something when/if I wanted it but he thought I'd be allright w/o it which turned out to be on target. I think there are things and times when we're more normal if we have a bit of anger or depression than if we try to pretend nothing's going on. Of course, I've been going to him a long time too and I think he's seen my reactions to pain and a lot of other stuff. Sometimes I really do think I have fibro as well because so many things sound the same but I know he tests trigger points fairly regularly (though he never mentions it) and there's no reaction.

Must admit I'm concerned about this headache/stroke thing though. Which is why I'm still taking the Plavix though it's upsetting my stomach so badly. I feel better able to deal w/stomach problems than a stroke for sure.

What a great day to look forward to, Mima. Hope all goes well for you tomorrow.

Wish I were still asleep........

Candice ..I have a mass on my L ovary. The ca125 came back neg. so I am not too concerned ,but it has to come out. They will take both ovaries out Oct. 7
My hubby had heart bipass surgery almost 10 years ago. He can't take the heat and doesn't seem to be able to work outside as much anymore. We(family) are trying to make him understand we need to get a yardman now. He is being difficult..He thinks no one else can do it..
Mima..Good that your daughter found a good one..My son seems to have done the same.. We are all waiting for them to get married..
Anagram.. I think I have a good Dr.I am not worried . The pain comes and goes for me too. The one bad one put me in ER. That is when they found the mass. They have been telling me it was IBS. I probably do have IBS ,but, All pain isn't that. Now maybe they will stop telling me I have to learn to live with it.. Since when do we have to learn to live with pain?I guess when you get my age the medical Dr's feels we are going to die anyway ,so why bother.I guess when you are young and weigh 125 they pay more attention.. :lol:
Hello Meme,Happy...Joanne

Good morning-we do have our share of medical problems, don't we. Figured out that I had at least 12 medical problems, none fatal. Course I aggravated one yesterday with what I ate at the wedding-was really nice. It was ourtdoors and it was absolutely freezing -windy -but the reception was inside, Beautiful!!!I got the centerpiece. The bride is a florist so the flowers were exceptional. Met Brad's cousins. Then we went to his sister's house and talked for a long time with other cousins who were staying at their house, Anagram, sure hope everything turns out fine. prayers for you too. No matter when I go to bed, I wake up early so I am tired and someone is coming over to see how to get airline tickets online. Then I'll have to get another nap. Bye for now Mima

Joanne, good luck with your surgery, do they have to make and incision for that these days? You will be good and sore if they do! Hope it helps with all the pain you are having. We need a yard person too but DH refuses to hire one, jsut can't let go of the money for taht when he thinks we can do it....he had to mow himself the last two times cause with my pelvic pain I could not sit on a bumpy mower. I just refused to do it. He is still whinning about doing it himself! I used to do it all take care of the kids, teach, keep house, cook, yard stuff and volunteer work...that was pre Fibro days!!!!!!!!!!!

My fibro support group leads says I need to learn to pace myself....I just can't stop once I get going, if I sit down it is too hard to get back up..I would never get anything done....I do not think you all pace yourself either..........it is in our nature to be overachievers most of the time.

Anna.....I'm not sure what kind of doc my son will be when it comes to treating to "chronic problems"...he does not like working on me now for pratcie because I frustrate him...too many aches and pains...at school they practice on young healthy people! I tell him I am the real patient! :lol: I was glad to hear that you have seen several docs( well yo know waht I mean don't you?), and have had tests run too and similar results as I have had. Makes me feel better hearing it from others.

Mima....that boyfriend sounds like a real keeper! My 2 boys need a wife too but I want a really nice one I get along with! ;)

We are checking into counselours that no about FM and maybe if I find one they will know of a good doctor to change to. Since I have "nothing" wrong with me but Fibro they cannot justify the pain I guess. I do have some arthritis but do not take anything for it. i used to ge massage and Chriro treatments all the time but DH said it was costing us too much so I quit!

Good morning-yes, Candice, I know about that not stopping thing but I think I am getting better at it. Didn't do much yesterday because I was tired and thought I was getting a cold-got some hot and sour soup and went to Walmart to get some zinc lozenges and feel better. The thing about doing too much or even just enough is the pain that it causes the next day and the tiredness-people don't seem to understand that. Even Auntie wants me to drive in to walk and the drive is long. Anyhow-no closing!!!Today? It's getting funny. And no window!!! Bye for now Mima

Candice- I was told a lap was being done and I would go home same day. Now I found out they will admit me and it might be a couple days. I guess I will get the final answer tomorrow..
Mima- There seems to always be some hangups when you are selling something..My son says he keeps the down payment if they back out .Cloudy here today.. Guess I better get busy..Joanne

The condo closed-all I need to do is pick up the money. Tomorrow-window is not in. Going to Brad's church to help pick apples and peel-they got rained out last Sat but sold all small pans of apple crisp so they are going to make some more. So now they should make more money than before-Our Fair is Sat but I have all the work done til Friday-a quiet week except for my itchy eyes-driving me crazy!!!And I keep rubbing them so they are really irritated. Hope everyone is ok-waiting for surgey is not peasant Joanne-waiting is not fun in anything. But it seems we are always waiting for something. Like waiting to see Evan again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mima

Going to a female counselour nest week, not sure if it will help but don't think it will harm anything!

Give me your take on panic attacks and depression if you know anything about them...I thought I knew about them but my support group leader says they affect FMS patients different????????????????? I do not think I suffer from either one....I guess we will see!

Haven't been to active with my pelvic pain returning, got some AZO and it is helping so far. Think I found a new doc too.

Great Mima...on the condo!

Joanne..hope you do ok!

I have suffered from panic attacks-not now-and anxiety my whole life but I come by it genetically because my mother and grandmother had them too. What did leader say about it? Right now I am waking up very early because of stress-Craft Fair is Sat. And yesterday I went to Brad's church and helped pick apples, wash and peel them . I was too tired to nap and then had a meeting at church. And stayed up to watch Red Sox-bad. But they won after I went to bed. I am thinking I need to walk because that's good for stress. Dentist this morning-pick up check. And the weather is gorgeous. Too tired to write more, Mima

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