Support Groups - Kaitikat MissyK Cyndy CHAT

Hey girls! I've started the thread! Now we can help eachother along the way! Hmm where to start? Well...how about what motivates you?

For me, the motivation has been a guy (yes, yes I know) I met a year ago at work. Last summer, you see, I was still quite thin...103lbs to be exact. Everyone at the place got along with me...at it was the best two weeks EVER! It was just a summer job, though. He and I got along very well...and everybody could tell we liked eachother. But when it was the last day, he asked me for my contact and I, being the stupid girl that I am, didn't give it to him. "Why", you ask? Well at the time I was 17, and he was 24. I thought it was sorta icky. But I couldn't stop thinking about him...2 more weeks and it'll be a year that I haven't stopped liking him. I went places that I assumed he might be in hopes of bumping into him...but it never happened. He's...well...the FIRST guy I've ever liked in my life. And just two months ago, I realized that "omg I'm 17lbs heavier than I was last summer". So I kept reminding myself with post-its of his name that I HAVE to push myself.

Whew...sorry for the long post...just thought I'd let you know my little situation. Hehe as you can see, I'm very open about my life...at least only online.

Oh...and this is how I did so far today:
Breakfast: nectarine, oatmeal
Snack: apple, yogourt
Exercise: 30 minutes walking, 30 minutes hula hooping

hey yall! im glad that you put up this post cause i didnt want to keep sending private messages! haha! :lol: well for my modivation i had a big piece of poster board on the closet which held all of the junk food. and on that poster board i had all kinds of pictures of skinny people. and everytime i went to go get a snack i would say to myself...do you want to be skinny or not? and i just walked away from that closet. you should try it some time. it works.
here is what i have eaten today so far...
breakfast...bran muffin
lunch...pieces of turkey and yogurt
snack...which i am about to reach for right now...banana

well i hope to hear from you all soon!

-kaitikat

Heya! Hehe what can I say...I use my computer everyday :)

So this morning I went to the hospital to get an X-ray. I didn't want to buy anything there to eat...so I just DIDN'T! so from 7am to 12pm I had a nectarine and that's it. I ended up falling down a flight of stairs outside the bookstore. I'm the kind of person that can't LIVE without a big breakfast. So right now I'm eating a chicken tortilla wrap for lunch. I spent 5 minutes picking out the cheese lol.

Kaitikat, I totally admire you for eating so healthy. But I find when I have to eat healthy stuff all the time, I end up overeating on the third day or something. Does that ever happen to you? Or do you occasionally treat yourself? I personally treat myself every single day (like this chicken wrap).

Hehe actually, Kaitikat, I also have pictures of skinny girls wearing bikinis in my room. But I get weird responses from my friends who visit though :lol: :dizzy:

Where's Cyndy?

Girls!!!

I am soooo sorry for not replying to this until now...I'm a dork and didn't even know it was posted in this section. So sorry again, but I am THRILLED to see you guys started this thread...so lets chat :coffee:

Well, MissyK, I understand your desire to lose weight because of a guy. I think at one time or another we all go through that. I feel your frustration at liking someone so much and at the same time not being able to talk to them, especially when you feel you had a chance and gave it up...Well believe me I have done many things I regret but at the same time you did what seemed best at the moment and that is okay. More than likely you will run into him again, and at that point you will see how things are still. And although I know he would still find you attractive at 120 lbs (thats not a lot!) and I know you are down to 113 lbs which is great. The most important thing is that you feel confident.

KaitiKat, you are very good about sticking to healthy foods! Good job. I am with Missyk in that I treat myself a lot too (maybe too much?) hehe...but today I had:

Breakfast:
bran cereal w/ skim milk and 1/2 banana
coffee with bit of skim milk

Snack:
nectarine
few almonds

Lunch:
Grilled chicken sandwich (lowfat)
some fries!!! (at least I didn't eat a lot of them, gave it to my dad!)

Dinner:
Vegetarian chili with brown rice
1/2 english muffin with peanut butter
a cookie

Okay, so I'll admit I really shouldn't have had the cookie. Damn...but I won't go off and binge or anything..thats the culprit for me - just giving up and giving in...

I will probably go walk/jog for a half an hour now. I will come write more later. I love communicating with you guys, I could write forever!

Talk to you soon
Cyndy

Oh yeah! One more thing - I was wondering if you guys strictly count calories everyday, or just eyeball portions, don't eat past a certain time etc. How does your usual method go?

hey yall! what's up? nuttin much here! my diet is going pretty well. im losing the weight i put on! thank goodness!

Missyk...i do over eat sometimes...i usually hate myself after that though.
i sometimes do treat myself to some chocolate :D oh is that good! and sometimes i go over board and eat a hamburger! but that happens really rarely.

cyndy...i do sometimes count all of the calories i eat so i can burn them when i excercise. i dont really have a time that icant eat after. (does that make sense???) haha.

what are some of the hobbies do you guys do?

ttyl!

-kaitikat

hehe I can write forever too!

Well I didn't eat well today...

Breakfast: nectarine
Lunch: chicken tortilla wrap
Dinner: chicken and noodles in soup
Dessert: Starbucks Frap, brownie

I worked out quite a bit though...I did the 2-mile walk with Leslie Sansone (Walk Away The Pounds), and 30 minutes of hula hooping. BUT my friends called me out for some coffee and late night bowling...so I messed up there. But worst of all was, we had some alcoholic drinks after the bowling, which as I understand, is SUPEr high in calories. :(

I usually try to count calories every day...keeping it under 1200 cals. But I usually go over LOL. I eat as late as I want...because sometimes I get off work at 10pm without dinner so I'm forced to eat at around 11pm. But is it better to not eat after a certain time?

OH and my hobbies:
DRAWING (I can do that for hours if I weren't so paranoid about gaining weight while sitting)
Bowling, playing pool, going out to eat, shopping, checking the forum for replies!

Good morning ladies!

Well I will have to make this a reallly quick post because I am leaving to work soon (thank goodness ill be done in a week and a half!). It's only 6:30 am and I have a full working day ahead of me, should be home by 6 pm tonight. Then I have to study for my freakin' final! ahh, dumb summer course!

Anyways, I ate some cookies last night while watching this tv show with my sister, this morning I was mad at myself, but I'm not gonna let it get me down.
For breakfast I had 1/2 an english muffin with pb, some yogurt and a few almonds which brings me to about 223 cals i think.

I just wanted to answer MissyK's question about eating late. There is nothing wrong with it if you have to, for example missing dinner than you must and it is OK. I have just heard that it is better to do most of your eating early in the day and eat light at night. I used to do that and could eat quite a substantial amount during the day and wouldn't eat past 5 or 6 pm. Those days are gone though! I havent "dieted" for a long time this seriously so its taking me awhile to get back into it. Right now I am happy if the rest of this week I can manage no more than 1500 cals. But I keep messing up before bed and its sooo frustrating!

Oh, Kaiti...I wanted to ask you about the motivation poster - its such a great idea, but keeping it where the snacks are, do your parents see it? I'm not sure I could get away with it at my house lol...but I am thinking of making one and keeping it in my room.

As far as hobbies....well I've always loved writing - poems, letters, etc. I guess I express myself well through writing. I enjoy drawing and painting, but unfortunate I suck at it!
I took some dancing classes (latin, ballroom) last summer and it was awesome but got too expensive so I stopped.
I am a girlie girl in the sense that I love to shop (but hate to try on!), do makeup, I love doing my hair...stuff like that :)
I love going clubbing with my friends (the only problem is the drinking which is high in calories but I've always found I lose weight the next morning - probably from dehydration and all the dancing).

In any case I've got to run, going to be late! Ah, I am not looking forward to an hour and a half of traffic.

Well, later! Take care and ahve a great day!

Hey girls! I'm back from the States. I went there with friends because (this is going to sound stupid) we wanted Abercrombie and Fitch sweaters LOL. That's right...we drove 2 hrs from Vancouver to BEllevue Square for Abercrombie and Fitch.

Anyway, I ATE SO MUCH!!! We ate breakfast lunch and dinner there! American serving sizes are quite a bit larger than Canadian serving sizes, aren't they? Well it was delicious, though. We went to Cheesecake factory!

So I'm back on track today.

Thanks for answering me about the dinner thing, Cyndy. Yah, you do have a point...and I always screw up at night too. I only have less than a week until I see that guy again...so I have to resort to drastic measures. I'm thinking of skipping dinner for maybe 3 or 4 days. People have lost ALOT when they skipped dinner...my friend lost 10lbs in one month!

Hey Missy and Kaiti!

MissyK - another fellow Canadian, right on! I am from Ontario, Toronto specifically, ever been this way? Not to worry about going to the States just for shopping, I would do that too!
I understand your dire need to shape up before seeing that guy again..a question though, how do you know you'll see him again!?! Is it the same job and if so will you be working with him? That is so awesome.

KaitiKat, what kind of exercise do you do? I wish I had more energy to workout but I find after work I am soooo exhausted that recently I havent been able to - I guess its because work keeps me outta the house like 12 hours a day and than I have to study for my course - but it will all be over with in a week and then i want to spend a lot of time until school starts working on improving my body.

My motivation recently has been my ex boyfriend. We are still friends but I havent seen him for awhile...and the next time I see him I want to kinda show him up. I know that sounds immature, and its totally a smaller extent of my motivation but its still there and it will feel so darn good.

MissyK - what grade are you going in or are you entering College at this point?

I feel like I messed up a bit today because I ate too much at dinner b/c its my dad's birthday. Well I stopped eating after dinner so at least I did that much.

A question for both you guys. How do you find maintaining a weight around 110 lbs? When I was trying to get there before I found like it was impossible...Kaiti, I believe you used to weight around 130 lbs, do you find it extremely hard to maintain at this weight?

I have more stuff I wanna talk about but my mom keeps calling me, so I will come back and finish this post in a bit!

hey yall! sorry i have nt been talking lately. i have been busy shopping for school. i cant wait till school. i want to see all my friends!

missyk...i decided to put it in my room instead...i didnt want everybody to see skinny mini girls! haha!

i forgot who asked this question...for excercise i got on my bike for like and hour. and then i do some crunches and sit ups.

i forgot who asked this question...it is very hard maintain my weight...but im still trying to lose it

some of my hobbies are...basketball...horseback riding...going to the gym...reading.

anybody have a good book they read lately?

ttyl!

-kaitikat

Good morning!

Okay so I am staying home from work today to study for my exam tomorrow - ahhh scary..hehe

I just wanted to post what I eat here today, but i feel that every night I overeat, not but a whole lot, but even to stop weight loss. So here's to being accountable:)

Breakfast:

Light carrot muffin with light margarine - 240
coffee - 10
Total: 250

That's it so far, but I will periodically post throughout the day to make sure I do well today

Good luck both of you with eating well.

Ttyl :)

hey! whats up ladies? well today i have eaten...

breakfast...bran muffin

snack...cup of cheerios

thats it for now! :)

ill talk you all later!

-kaitikat

Hi girls!
YESTERDAY I BINGED SOOO MUCH!!! I HAD OVER 2000 calories before bedtime (a whole cheesecake and whole toblerone)!!! But this morning, I went to the bathroom and discovered why. Time of the month. *rolls eyes*

I'm under control today, though. So far I've had a tomato and a piece of whole grain bread with diet coke. I haven't had lunch yet.

Yes, it IS a dire need to get in shape to see the guy, although I am still proud of myself for my accomplishments so far. I know I'm O.K. where I am, but I'd be more secure if I were back to my previous weight. And Cyndy, I TOTALLY understand your want to show him up. Who wouldn't want to make their EX see what they're missing?

Oh, and I'm going into second year...gonna major in econ.

I think it's VERY hard maintaining weight. I could easily go back up to 120lbs in a week or two. Also, as you get lighter, your body doesn't burn as many calories. To maintain my weight, apparently, I only need 1300 calories. OMG that's like a single MEAL at Mcdonalds!

Cyndy, I think it's great that you work so much because then you won't be focusing so much on eating. I worked 10 hr shifts. But I couldn't handle it...so I cut my hours in half. Waitressing...it rocks.

OH YES I HAVE READ A GOOD BOOK, Kaitikat!!! I couldn't put it down! It's called "When in Rome". But I'm not sure if you like that genre. It's a humorous novel featuring a typical girl in her twenties that yearns for extravagance, and finally decides to pursue her dreams of finding romance and excitement. VERY funny book. Author's last name is Townley.
But if you're into Sci-fi fantasy, I suggest ANYTHING by Terry Pratchett. He's MY FAVORITE. Read the discworld series.

Congratulations on LOSING WEIGHT, Cyndy! Keep it up, girl!

Hey MissyK, first of all, thank you!!! I am so not used to getting complimented on weight loss, because it always seemed like something other poeple accomplish, not me. You should be very proud of yourself for reaching the weight you are at. I understand you would like to lose a few more, but don't forget that you look amazing now as it is :)

So you are a waitress, that is awesome! I totally wanted to do that this summer, but I had no time leftover. I am thinking during the year I should do it a couple times a week for the money. It kinda scares me, though...it is very hard and stressful!? I actually took a bartending course last summer, so I may try and do that as well, but I heard it can be hard to find a bartending job however, one of my ex's said he could hook me up doing some bartending at night clubs, but i dunno, we'll see...

I had no idea you were going into second year! Majoring in econ. eh? wow, I am impressed, that must be difficult. In any case, good luck in the coming year! AT least I don't feel alone, I'm not the only one who has to put up with all those readings! hehe

That book you mentioned sounds great :D I am going to go to Chapters and buy it. I love books like that. The last couple I read while on the train going to work were: Confessions of a Shopaholic and Shopaholic takes Manhattan. I am on the third sequel called Shopaholic Ties the Knot. They are by Sophie Kinsella I believe, and they are kinda silly, but they make me LAUGH. It is a nice, humorous read, especially if you like shopping!

I just want to say thank you to all you guys, namely MissyK, KaitiKat and hcred123 (I know she isn't part of this thread) but all you guys have helped me tremendously and it means the world to me. ((((Big Hugs))))

I owe you so much. If it weren't for you, I wouldn't have tried last week. When i screwed up I wouldve normally turned it into a full blown binge, but then I thought of you guys (girls!) and wrote instead. I hope I can help you out as much as you have for me.

What a coinky-dinky! I have Shopaholic takes Manhattan in my drawer right under When in Rome!

Waitressing is great because I get to run around and burn calories. The tips are great, too!

Well I didn't come home till 4am last night, but I was really proud of myself. I posted on 3fc before I left the house, so I didn't totally pig-out! I only had a fruit slushy all night. I ended up waking up at 11am today...not hungry at all.
This is what I had all day:
B: whole wheat toast, half a nectarine
L: 12 arrowroot cookies :headache:
D: Roast chicken sandwich

I really felt bad about lunch. My tip for today: whatever you may THINK tastes good at the moment, is NOT worth the guilt. I mean, I felt like kicking myself ALL DAY!

I'm afraid to weigh myself still...I haven't been good long enough.

hey girls! i think im doing great! im losing the weight i put on! im so proud of myself!!! now i weigh 112 pounds! woo hoo!!! haha. i think now i can lose these pounds before school. i have about a week and a half left. o i hope i can do it! with you guys modivating me...i think i can do it! i want to thank all of you soooo much for modivating me! you guys (girls...haha) are the best!!!
talk to yall later!

-kaitikat

Hello hello girls...

Kaitikat - *clapping and cheering for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* You go girl, job good! That is wonderful, and honestly I wouldn't be over-concerned about losing the last 2 pounds before school starts because in terms of appearance it doesn't make an outsider notice more, and I am afraid that can sometimes make you eat more. So all I am saying is keep doing what you're doing, take it easy & don't worry about it, and everything will turn out great!

As for me, well work has been long I am outta the house a good 12 hours a day and by the time i walked in the door this evening I was so hungry and ate too much. Somehow, I managed to get the strength within me to say "stop" at some point. I don't think I went over 1700-1800, 2000 is probably tops, so I am not too upset. At least yesterday went fairly well. I need to exercise but I find it so hard to get the energy at the end of the day especially when I know i'll be going to bed soon to be up super early. Ah, frustrating!

I hope you are all doing very well, I am going to watch tv and than hopefully get the urge to workout. How do you guys do it, do you ever have to force yourself?

Take care and talk to you soon

I know this is probably a bad idea, but I came across a book while cleaning my room just after writing that last post a short while ago. It is called the Rotation Diet and you may have heard of it. Basically, you eat 600 calories for 3 days, 900 for 4 days, 1200 for the next week, back down to the 600/900 rotation for the third week, and then you go back to 1200 a few days, then 1500 and so a little "maintenance" so to speak for a while. It is hard to explain as well as you can understand by reading it. The thing is I totally am not a believer in "diets" but this is a very temporary drop in calories, and I am tempted. Is this completely stupid and bone-headed of me to consider. I guess I kind of know it is, because it may just cause me to binge. However, I had done it before for a few days (never the whole rotation) and even though i didn't stick to 600 cals I would go over but never binge. This isn't meant to be done long term so I kind of want to give it a go, but am I just overly tired and not using my sanity when writing this? What do you think??

If you want I could copy out excerpts from the book to give you a better idea.

Thanks ladies, much appreciated

hey ladies!

that sounds like a neat diet...does it work?

-kaitikat

Hey guys,

First off, in answer to your question Kaiti, I am sure the diet does work temporarily, as it is impossible not to lose weight when you reduce calories. But, in thinking about it, I realize that it would make you worse off in the end because most likely someone would just end up binging...so I decided to give up on that idea! hehe

In fact, I just came to a realization. I was reading a post in the maintainers forum and it struck a chord with me. I ate badly today and was feeling depressed thinking what am I going to do about it? But after reading that post (it was something about gaining weight back after you have lost it) I thought, what do I mean "what am I going to do?" as though that were a valid question. It dawned on me that I am still looking for a quick fix. I have not been approaching this as a life long committment and this is what has been getting me into trouble and will continue to unless I nip it in the bud now.

I have not been exercising because i have been so "tired." That right there is something I could change if I wanted to. I have to make time no, schedule it in, fit it in somehow, someway. Whether that be in the morning or night, losing sleep or whatever.

The other thing is eating. Sometimes I toy with the idea of cutting back calories just a bit too much, afterall I tell myself it's just for today. Well, for one thing I never end up doing it and just eat more. Do you see what I mean when I say I am not making lasting changes?

I need to figure out how I am going to make this a lifestyle change. I kinda have a bad headache right now so i'm gonna grab a couple tylenol's and I'll be back to write and poke around the forums in a bit.

How do you guys view this and long term maintenance?

KAITIKAT ROCKS!!! 112LBS!!! CONGRATS!!!

Good job, Kaitikat! I'm still afraid to weigh myself because I've been going out for dinner these few days.

Cyndy, you're right about the quick fix thing. Girls, no matter what you do, don't try those ridiculous diets where you eat little, then eat normally..etc. Those always result in a binge. I mean, I doubt its possible to eat 600 cals and not pig out afterwards.

I've learned that weight loss happens only if you make long term changes, or as Cyndy says, a lifestyle change. That's how I started my weight loss. I made lifestyle changes. I started by binging less at night, incorporating exercise and controlling my portion sizes. I'm not losing quickly, but at least the weight doesn't come back with one major eating fest. When I was on Atkins, omg if I ate carbs for one day, I'd gain weight.

As for exercise, I feel incomplete without it. I've learned to separate exercise and diet. That is, if I don't eat well one day, that's not going to stop me from exercising.

Oh...and I saw the guy for the first time in a year yesterday night. I felt like sh*t. He got incredibly good looking. I realize now, that we can never be together so I'm going to try to get over him. I wrote in my diary last night, and as I flipped back, over half of my old diary and all of my new diary is about him. He now has a girlfriend, too.
But seeing him made me lose my appetite. Last night, I just didn't eat. I just lay on the floor until 12am, did my crunches, and slept. This morning I didn't wanna eat as well, but I forced myself to have a nectarine.

I am at work right now, so I only have time to write a couple sentences.
MissyK, when I read your last post it broke my heart. I think because it was like you were writing about me when you said that half your old diary and all of your new one are about him. I have a couple diaries just like that about someone and I made the same realization awhile back. I am sorry for your pain and to hear that he has a girlfriend. I am in the same boat in that I have had a horrible break up with my boyfriend at the beginning of summer.

I have a lot more to say on this subject, and a few other things. Just give me a few hours to get home and so on.

Talk to you soon,
Cyndy

hey girlies! i was so bad today. i ate junk food. :mad: i was good then. but now i feel really guilty. i guess i just have to start over tomorrow. hey guys...i have/had a crush too...and everytime he would have a girlfriend my heart would just sink. oh well...im kinda over him anyways. well i have to go! ttyl!

-kaitikat

I doubt I'll be over him anytime soon. Right now, I'm in a state of confusion. I don't know what to do. I don't want to give up...but then again, that's my only choice.

Anyway, signing in for today:

B: Giant apple and giant nectarine
L: Starbucks light mocha frappucino
D: Turkey breast on toasted bagel with cream cheese
S: Boiled egg

Wow that's like NO food, isn't it? Well I'm trying to lose water weight so I can at least LOOK thinner tomorrow. I'm going to be working at the summer fair so I'll probably lose weight within those two weeks. Last year I lost 3lbs!

hey grls! im doing good with my diet. im not losing or gaining. im happy! haha.
got to go!

-kaitikat

Today my dad said I look thinner. I haven't been eating much lately. I'm not in the mood.

B: toast, nectarine
L: chicken burger
D: mini donut, grapes

Tell me about your progress, girls! I'm weighing in on labour day...so the countdown begins !!!

Hey ladies,

First of all, I apologize for not posting in a few days. I was finishing up work and had this all-day wedding on Sunday, yesterday was out the entire day.

Eating was going pretty horrible the last few days as well. But Sunday night I decided that things were going to change (How many times have I said that!) but went downstairs before going to bed, and decided what I was going to eat the next day. Well, I am very happy to report yesterday went very smoothly and I had no problem eating well. Something has just clicked. I think it was that I thought to myself, I don't want to always wonder what it would be like to be thin like my friends, wear nice clothes and feel super in them etc. I just really need, even more than want, I need to change - for myself.

My motivations include the reasons I mentioned, and also when I think of my ex boyfriend whom I still extremely care about...I would love to feel better about myself the next time I see him. We are still kind of friends...but I miss him so much...and the other day he said he misses me too and wished things couldve worked out...But i'm thinking "it was your choice NOT to make it work out!!" He has left to Taiwan for a little while and when he comes back I want to have the confidence to call him up and invite him out for a movie or drinks. It's so hard because over the summer I've accepted our situation, but I love him and don't want to be with anyone else, so I am struggling with it big time.

MissyK, I completely understand your lack of appetite which I am assuming is due to that guy. When me and my ex broke up I was like that too. Although I can eat now I still hurt so much, so please know you aren't alone, and even know that things CAN change. You say it is impossible now, but I have another ex who I was in love with for years. We only dated about a month and he kind of played me on and off. We stayed friends because he was friends with one of my friends and vice versa. He ended up coming to my University when I was in first year and took the same program so we were all together (my friend, me and him). I still had a grudge towards him for being such an a**hole towards me at times, but also still loved him. That year was a year of incredible growth and change, I got over him eventually but guess what...he wants me back!!! A couple years ago he was the one telling me "what do you want!!!" when I called. Things CAN and DO change. Believe me from experience. I have known him now for about 4 years I guess (wow I didnt realize that lol) and I don't want him anymore. I loved him with all my heart before and wouldve done anthing for him but I was able to move on, so that gives me hope with my current situation.

Anyways, I am very hopeful with eating. My birthday is on Friday and I told my mom NO CAKE. I don't want it, and I have never been a big "sweet" foods person, so I reallly don't want that damn cake. But it's my 21st birthday so we're going out to a night club and I already know how much i'll be drinking, but that hasn't affected my weight before, and it's only one night ;)

TOday I am off to the hair salon at 11:30 this morning, so I better get ready. I am going to highlight my hair, it's growing out too much and I didn't have time to do it before...I am a blondie by the way. I have been colouring my hair for years and it gets so expensive, but I guess its the one thing that makes me feel better about myself. One day I should post a picture so you guys can put a face to the name!

Good luck with your eating today and I will be in touch with you!

Cyndy

hey girls!!! HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY!!! YOO HOO!!! haha! i have been eating a lot. but today i weighed myself and i weighed a little less than yesterday. i dont get it. well i did excercise. whatever...i guess i doesnt matter if i weigh less right?!? :lol: haha. geezzz...i wouldnt stop eating over a guy...i would eat more!!! haha. well ill talk to you all later.

-kaitikat

Happy Early Birthday, Cyndy!

I don't think a slice of cake would hurt...it IS your 21st birthday, after all.

I am SO incredibly happy to hear about your change in lifestyle. That's really all we need to lose weight. Once you're in that state of mind, you'll definitely succeed.

I called my best friend, hoping she'd console me. But she couldn't, didn't. You have no idea what you just said means to me. Thank you. I DO hope things will change. But...he's completely ignoring me now (I don't know why he's mad). I feel as if even I lost my appetite, I'm still eating more than other people. It seems that girls just don't eat.
Me on a diet=them eating more than usual.

Kaitikat, you're always so cheerful! I love that lol! I'm curious...when you say you "ate alot", how much are you talking about? I always wonder what other people's definition of overeating is.

I've definitely lost weight, thanks to you girls. I tried on some pants that were tight last month, and now they're quite loose. Oh, and I went on a shopping spree (I do that when I'm depressed) and found that my usual size at American Eagle was loose. Thanks for the support.


Oh, and Cyndy, I hope all your wishes come true on your birthday :cheers:

Kaitikat - Just a thought on how you said that you were still losing weight although eating more...it is probably because you revved up your metabolism and maybe weren't eating enough beforehand? Either way, it is good every now and then to increase calories for a couple days, I used to notice that I would lose weight too! How crazy hehe.

Hey MissyK, I am so proud of you. You have been doing extraordinarily well with your eating habits and both you and Kaitikat are such an inspiration. I have actually been doing fine this week. I didn't overeat at all, I didn't even really count calories, but I can always tell when I have had too much! Today I ate slightly more than I should have throughout the morning but that just means I don't eat much for the rest of the day which shouldn't be a problem because I have to go out with my mom for a bit, and then I am seeing a movie tonight with one of my friend's. I just have to make sure I don't buy that stupid junk food - which I know I won't because that isn't even a question - it's soo expensive at the movies and so not good for you.

Anyways, MissyK, I have been thinking about you, and your situation with the guy. I think you said that he was being a little rude to you...and from his perspective, he does have a "reason". You hurt his ego last year by not giving your number, and I'm guessing with no explanation. He feels hurt and rejected, he thinks you didn't like him and therefore didn't want to pursue anything. I have had so many guy problems in my day, along with my friends, that I know these things inside-out! Believe me, if he is being rude it is because he feels like a loser for trying and not having feelings reciprocated.

This is what I was thinking. I understand he has a girlfriend and all, but if this truly bothers you, I would say something to him. I have learned that you will only regret it if you don't. You don't have to say dump your gf and go out with me, but maybe something along the lines of why you didn't want to pursue things last summer and give him your #. Tell him that it's been bothering you and you have wanted to get this off your chest for a long time and you just want him to know that it had nothing to do with you not liking him back but you felt at the time he was too old for you and you weren't sure what to do. Tell him that as time passed you realized you made a big mistake. Ask if you guys can even just have a friendship, that you think he is a great person and a friendship is all your asking for at this point. Or simply just let him know that you still think about him and wish things couldve turned out differently. It's hard for me to pinpoint exactly what I would say, I would need more detail about how well you know him, and what you would be comfortable saying to him and so on. But I feel for you, and know how hard it is. And I completely understand having a best friend who doesn't have much advice for you. My best friend just kinda shrugs off the subject of my ex boyfriend and acts like it is stupid and unimportant. I just let it go because ever since she got a boyfriend 2 years ago I hardly see her and we aren't nearly as close - we used to be glued at the hip, went and did everything together. Unfortunately, as I grow up I see that things are never what they seem..no one could have told me way back that me and her wouldn't be as close and hang out that much one day. It's sad, but it is life, it's not supposed to go as you planned or think it would. There is always a good side to the things we don't like, but you have to look for it and discover what it is.

Sorry, I am rambling now. I could go on about these subjects for a long time. Oh yeah, and my ex emailed me back and said his trip was cancelled so he will be around for my b-day. I wonder if he will actually show up to the club? That would be weird I haven't seen him in awhile. Anyways...we'll see....it's actually a little stressful.

On a side note, I worked out everyday this week. 45 mins on Mon, 1 hour on Tues and 30 mins today! yeah! hehe

Bye ladies,
Cyndy

hey girls! i have like nothing to talk about. you guys always have a long post.
haha! i have been kinda maintaining my weight. im kinda happy about that. today i went to the local fair they hold every year. i ate a doughnut...a bagel...uhhh...diet pepsi...and some clam strips. (they are SO GOOD!!!) and dont forget the salad i ate for dinner!!! geeezz...is that a lot of food? kinda. well i start school on the 30th. i cant wait! i want to see all of my friends! ttyl!

-kaitikat

Hey girls..

Well so far, so good this week. I haven't had a binge and everything is going great. I havent weighed myself b/c I dont want that to discourage me when it is all coming along so smoothly.

Although, I have had a big decrease in my appetite today. MissyK, I think I am joining you on the "guy problems, therefore I can't eat!". It has just been stressful and food has no appeal right now. I talked to the ex, and apparently him and his friend are probably coming to Montreal with me and one of my girl friends for a little getaway on the long weekend (labour day weekend). I can't even imagine going on a road trip with him, because we have had quite a few significant problems in our past relationship, I think he thinks I cheated on him (which i didn't) and he just doesn't see ANYTHING from my point of view. We just start bickering and fighting and screaming whenever the subject comes up. He blames me for what happened between us and if I didn't do certain things that we would probably still be together blah blah blah. But I miss him so much and almost cry myself to sleep every night over it. Anyways, I'll shut up about it now - I just had to talk about it because I only talked to him this morning over MSN and we got into it a bit.

Anyways, I need to workout and I really felt like it before, but now my motivation is slipping away adn I dont feel like doing it. I just feel overwhelmed and stuff. I think later on today I am going to the mall for a bit of shopping and maybe to donate blood but i don't really wanna do that because they make you eat cookies hehe.

That's it for now. I am trying to get motivation to go workout.

Talk to you later!
Cyndy

Thanks for the advice, Cyndy. It's just what I need. I think you should just enjoy your time with him on the roadtrip, despite your past difficulties. After all, you're going to be there anyway...might as well avoid bickering and savour the very moment you're by his side.

I guess I should be happy that thinking about him makes my appetite diminish. Although I went out with my friend to eat today, I didn't eat much. I had a scoop of ice cream, though :p

B: apple, grapes (150 cal)
L: 3 rolls of sushi, scoop of ice cream (about 800 cal)
D: california roll (no mayo) (200 cal)
S: grapes (50 cal)

I feel so bad for you, Cyndy...but at the same time I'm glad there's someone going through this with me. Your words mean so much. Tonight I talked to him. Although he was distant, at least he didn't ignore me.

Kaitikat, it looks like you're doing wonderfully! Whenever you say you ate ALOT, I just think, "what?! that's not much!" I'm sure you'll get to your goal soon! Are you still sticking to your bran muffin diet everyday? Let me ask you...since you're now so close to your goal, do you find losing to be harder? I'm feeling like I've stopped losing.

hey girlies. i start school tomorrow and i have lots and lots of butterflies. i just found out that there is a kid in my class that i like. i am so nervous. ill tell you why im nervous...last year he found out that i liked him. my friend told him. i dont really know if i still like him though. cause he said i was ugly...oh well. he might remember me. maybe this year he'll find out what im really like...on he inside...funny...nice...and other things. i kno im not fat and i kno im not skinny. hey i have bad news...i gined TWO pounds. :mad: :mad:
i was at the fair...that should explain it all. oh well ill just have to lose it. and it is kinda hard to lose these last pounds. wish me luck at school!

-kaitikat

GOOD luck at school, Kaitikat! I'm sure it'll be great!

Today:
B: oatmeal and milk
L: vegetable soup, chicken teriyaki with rice
D: vegetarian sushi
S: 4 mini donuts

I'm sure it's only water weight, Kaikikat...you can't really gain 2lbs from being at the fair. At least, I don't think so. You should be proud of yourself for coming this far!

As for me, I've had a great day!!! OMG I talked to the guy I liked today...on a very "friends only" level...but I'm getting the feeling that he likes me again. I don't know...you tell me...but I caught him looking at me when I was making some sales. And he automatically sat down next to me when I was on my break! Aaaah!!!! But...he's nice to everyone, though. hmm so maybe I'm just assuming too much :(

oh, and Cyndy, I replied to your other post already! So...read!

LOOK AT MY SIGNATURE!!! Down 2lbs! For good! It's not just water weight!

CONGRATS MISSY K!!!

You are amazing!!! 111 lbs is incredible in my opinion. I would love to see a picture of you once just to imagine what I may possibly look like one day at that weight hehehe ;)

As far as that guy, if he keeps taking glances of ya, I'm sure there is a little somethin' somethin' in his mind for you. Afterall, we can't forget he did want your phone number last year and since nothing ever happened, there is usually a longing in someone wondering "what if".

You sound happy to me, and you deserve every darn bit of it cuz you're a wonderful person. I hope something happens with him. At the very least I hope you are feeling better about the situation.

And Ms.Kaitikat! I believe today was your first day back to school. How was it? Give us an update! That guy you mentioned that you liked but called you ugly to your friend is totally not worth your time. He sounds immature and is not worthy of a fabulous person like you. You are too good for him. My advice is before you even get started with someone like him, drop the idea before you get too involved and then it it SO much harder to get out. I only say that so bluntly because I know how it is from experience. Find someone else to keep your eye on ;)

Hope you are both doing great.

Thanks, Cyndy!
I'd LOVE to send a picture! Hmm first I'd have to take some pictures *lol*. You won't believe how long I've been avoiding the camera! I've been trying to save up for a digital camera...but I'm just not willing to spend all that money. But definitely, I'll send a pic one of these days!
I ate ALOT today, though. Oh well, I'm not going to beat myself up. I worked out to make up for it! I walked for about 4 hrs nonstop. I ate today:
Full order of pasta
Chocolate cake slice
caramilk chocolate bar
2 chocolate chip cookies
orange julius smoothie
slice of pizza

HOLY coW, EH?!?!?! But...that's what happens when I have too much fun with my friends...no regrets no regrets. Man...that must be...3000 cals or something!

Hey MissyK - don't worry about the food, the main thing is you didn't keep going and decide I might as well double that amount! Sometimes it doesn't even make a difference in your weight, so once in awhile I say just have fun and start back with the healthy food tomorrow.
I want a digital camera too! But you are right they are expensive and I'm not sure I want to blow the money on one right now. I am thinking to ask my ex to help me pick one out because he has an electronics store and could probably get me a deal on it! haha
On that note, I had a very long talk with him the other night like from 11 pm - 3:30 am. We finally put closure to a lot of issues that have occured and he was saying things like "I'm not sure I am ready to give up on you yet" and he thinks our trip to Montreal may help us sort things out and so on. It is really such an odd situation I think. As much as I want to be with him, I know there will still be problems but for now I am not going to over-analyze like I always do, and just go and have a blast on the weekend.
When all this happened with him and it looked like there was NO chance, I thought of you MissyK...If it is possible for me to have another chance with him (and seriously no one could have predicted this because it appeared over and done with to the extreme) - I would say don't give up - There is always that chance!

I just got up so I havent eaten anything today b/c I just got up but yesterday's eating went ok. I never write it down anymore so I can never recap it here, but you know what, today I will and I shall write it here for you guys tomorrow.
At night when I want to go downstairs and eat something before bed, I just tell myself "lie down and try to go to sleep and then if you realllllly still want something, have it" Every single time I lie down and forget about food. I start thinking about things and people and so on and I fall asleep, no questions asked! So it's kind of like a deal with myself to try sleeping instead of eating and it always works. I am never usually hungry then anyways, I just feel like nibbling.

I'm FINALLY 110lbs!!! AND I have 3 days before school!!!

I weighed myself after eating all this:
B: toast and fruit
L: beef, rice and italian spaghetti sauce
D: BBQ rib sandwich and fries

I don't think I could have EVER done it without this thread! You guys are great! We have to stick together! We'll get to our goals, no matter how long it takes!!!

And Cyndy, thanks for helping me out with my guy problems! Your encouragement means so much to me. Honestly. So anyway, I'm glad you had a chance to talk to him...you're much more fortunate than me.

MissyK, you are my IDOL. CONGRATULATIONS for an amazing job with your weight loss. Girl, you got it - you're absolutely amazing. I am in extreme envy of you! But I also know how hard you have been working to get to this point. Would you say you still had a few "mess up" days and if so, why do you think you were still able to lose weight? One other question that I am wondering - Do you think looking back that for most of the time you have gone hungry or not too bad. I am asking because if it was really hard to stick to your diet how do you feel about maintenance? (Of course you will do just fine because your a pro at this! and we all know its a matter of keeping it up). Lastly, at what rate did you lose per week?

Anyways, if you weighed after all that food, then in all likelihood you weigh LESS than 110 lbs because the weight of the food and beverages you had during the day would increase it.

I just got home from my trip to Montreal and I am tired! But I think I'm still headin out tonight because might as well take advantage of my time off before school. One more night of partying!

Today I was not hungry at all. I didnt eat in the morning b/c i had to pack and in the car ride I simply just didnt have an appetite. I got a Tim Hortons small iced cappacino made with milk. Just before for dinner I went with my friend to Licks and got their veggie burger and fries. And I didn't finish the fries. I am very proud of myself lately for trying to follow my hunger cues and waiting until I am hungry to eat, and not overeating when I do. I wonder what my weight is like after this weekend. We'll see tomorrow!

Alrighty girls, so I weighed myself this morning for the heck of it, because I havent in awhile and I wanted to see what the junk food and alcohol in Montreal did to me!
Well, apparently it was good for me LOL. Okay maybe not good, but I never overate and I am down to 132 or 133 lbs! That is another 2 pounds gone. I had to weigh a couple times because I thought I was seeing things. It is very exciting. But also scary. I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I have this fear like what if today I can't do what I did yesterday. What if it was just a fluke and I start going crazy eating waay too much or something. I know it sounds stupid, but I havent been successful in so long that it's an unfamiliar feeling. But thinking on it, I am down roughly 7 or 8 pounds and it wasn't ever very hard. Small changes people. hehehe. LIke number one, I just stopped the aimless snacking at night. Easy change, big results.

CONGRADULATIONS ON LOSING THE WEIGHT!!!!!!
haha. hey girlies. sorry i havent talked to you in a while. i just got bac from maryland with my friend. i ate a lot. i just forgot about my diet and ate whatever my skinny friend ate. oh well. haha. i started school. its ok. hey i saw a cute guy!!! :D haha. hes a lot cuter lookin than the other guy!!! haha. i have to strt up my diet again tomorrow. i have to lose these pounds before i go crazy! :dizzy: haha. well i have to go get my lunch ready for school tomorrow! ttyl.

-kaitikat

That's gotta be the first time anyone's ever called me their "idol".

THANKS, GIRLS!!!

GLad to hear you girls had fun on your trip! Don't worry about the 2lbs, Kaitikat. You can lose it EASILY, girl! Nowww go mack on the cute guy lol!!!

Cyndy, you have no idea how happy I am to hear about your loss! Honestly. It makes me so happy that my weight loss buddy is LOSING weight!!! :smug:

WEll, it didn't work out between me and the guy...but another guy asked me out. I said no. THen he went and won me a big stuffie at the fair and forced me to keep it. Gaaaad I don't like him though! I hate good looking guys. They put me through **** in highschool, and even though this guy is super nice, I just can't accept him! What to do?

OH, and to answer the questions:

I honestly don't know how much I lost per week. First, I was never good 7 days a week. Secondly, I didn't weigh myself weekly. I'd go into periods of "I'm not on a diet anymore" sometimes as well.

Don't be pessimistic. Don't think that you have to do today what you did yesterday...that's now how we live life. The key is to choose a healthy lifestyle that's flexible and satisfying.

The only thing I can say for sure is that I stopped my late night binges. YES, small changes DO make a big difference, don't they?

As for maintenance, it's really not as hard as others say it is. You'll notice that your appetite shrinks after a while. I just feel...well I guess "dirty, stinky, ugly" after eating lots now.

I just think back...2 months ago I was sitting on the bus contemplating how long it would take me to get to 110lbs. Just think about the last time you were thinking about how long it'd take you to lose 5lbs. Well, you've lost more than that now. That time in between is really nothing. Just don't keep weighing yourself...I learned that the hard way.

School starts tomorrow! Aaaah!!!

Thank you so much for advice, MissyK. It's funny how everything you say makes sooo much more sense then when I hear it from others. You just really know what you're doing and I am incredibly grateful to have your support.

So this guy you are talking about....why don't you like him back...just not your type, or is he one of the guy's that gave you **** in highschool? If he is a nice guy and you are attracted to him, maybe it is worth it to give it a try? All I know is I would die to meet another good looking, very nice guy because there is no cure for a broken heart like finding someone else, seriously. I don't think things will ever work out between me and my ex, and I don't want to believe that but I need to have a more realistic view. In the past, I was only able to move on from someone I really wanted to be with by finding someone better. Or at least try. I am still waiting for someone else to come around...

One thing...all that pessimistic thinking did me NO good yesterday. I ate so much food, didn't keep track, at a lot at night (something I never do anymore) and I just feel AWFUL this morning. Ah geez. Well it's a new day and I am ready to make it good without giving a second thought to my screw up yesterday. And I didn't weight myself b/c it'd be too depressing to see the weight gained back even temporarily by water etc. But one day surely can't make me permanaently gain back the 2-3 lbs.

I have been lacking in fruits and veggies lately so I really want to try and incorporate more of them today.

ANyways, I have a dentist appointment and then off to develop some pictures. School starts for me tomorrow because luckily I don't have class on Tuesdays!

Thanks again for tips. I think yet again I'll be printing out your response. I just find it so motivating.

hey girlies. my diet is doing well. i guess. i weighed myself today in the morning and i weighed 112 and a couple notches. not bad! haha.
today i ate...

a bran muffin...breakfast
a salad...lunch
a granola bar...lunch
carb control yogurt...lunch
some low fat pringles...snack after school
chicken and broccoli...dinnner (is that how you spell it?! haha.)

ill talk to you later girlies.

-kaitikat :ink: (isnt it cute?!? haha.)

Hey girls!

I haven't been good lately. Well, I've been having lots of FUN, but with FUN comes CALORIES. Oh well...what's four or five days of junk food? :( probably a pound? I don't dare weigh myself, though. I was SORT of good today:

B: Toast w/ cream cheese, nectarine
L: rice, vegetables and chicken
D: Chicken breast, thigh and drumstick >_< oh I am TOO full!!!
S: 6 small plums

I think that's about 1600 calories.

Thanks for the advice, Cyndy. But I don't think things will ever work out between the guy and I as well. I'll try to move on...but I definitely can't accept someone else. At least, not for now. Even in the midst of partying with close friends, I can't help but feel like crying because of my utter hopelessness. Just the other day, I cried on the bus.

We should fill our emotional void with weight loss, I suppose.

hey girls! i just got bac from school...uhh boring! 7 hours of stupid things! haha. my diet is going alright. i still havent lost those pounds...im sure you guys are like...''wats taking her so long!!!'' haha. i treat myself. a lot. haha.
well i have to go do homework...ttyl!

-kaitikat

Hey girls...

Well I have not been doing so well lately. I guess I avoid posting when I feel like a failure and it's embarrassing, and I don't want to let you guys down. But this is what has been happening.
I read a couple books in the summer by Jean Antonello called How to Become Naturally Thin By Eating More and Breaking out of Food Jail. They are excellent sources of information and ring very true, but they are also anti-diet. To make a long story short, ever since I read them it was hard to forget what I learned from it, that being, diets make you fatter in the end. And I know this is true from statistics and my own experience. I am much bigger now than when I started dieting in grade 7. You see, I wanted to try and see if I could get out of the diet mentality but in order to recover according to the book, is you must start eating when you're hungry but because we have been so out of tune with our body signals it can be difficult, and most people have to gain weight before they lose it naturally. I started to gain weight and realize I am not strong enough because I am totally freaked out and feel like I can't stop eating now...Sorry this must be totally confusing...

I just feel like I am at a complete loss. I want to know what it would feel like for once in my life to be as thin I have always wanted to be. But I also think that I guess I just don't want it badly enough or I would have accomplished it by now. I suppose the motivation isn't as high as it should be and therefore I can't do it. I don't know. All I know is that in thinking of all this I almost started crying on the train. I am in disbelief, or denial, in the fat person I really have become. Guys it just makes me sick. Why did I let myself get like this??

Are you guys prepared to watch everything you eat till the day you die? Because I am not sure I can do that. I am so terribly sorry for such a whiney post but I have never been so confused. I just almost know that restricting my food down to 1200 or even 1500 cals doesnt work for me anymore...I just get so hungry and binge....and then I think, well, years ago I was never more motivated, I was obsessed with my weight and still could not get it below 120 lbs...how could I possibly do it now with waaaay less motivation?

I think you two are the most incredible woman for being able to do it. I don't even comprehend how you could. I admire you with everything in me.

I don't know where I am going with this, but I had to let it out because it is stressing me out big-time. MissyK, maybe I should follow your lead and fill my emotional void with weight loss. God knows, I have a big void, as things are also non-existent with my ex. We didn't end up getting back together. Not to make it sound like I feel sorry for myself, but seriously I have no idea why he even weht for me in the first place, because he is the type who is kinda superficial, like he works out EVERY day at the gym no matter what time and I saw pictures of his ex girlfriends and I am not joking she had a model's body, in fact he then told me she used to model...I was just sinking in my chair....eeeeeek life sux for me right now.....

I apologize once more for my self absorbed ramble here. Thanks for listening MissyK and Kaitikat.

Oh my goodness. I came online to tell you guys how horribly I've been doing. I've been avoiding this thread as well, because I didn't want to disappoint you girls. But I can't help it. I feel like a complete failure. I must have had over 3000 calories today because I felt so...lonely. My stomach hurts like a b*tch right now, too.

I was on such a roll when I thought I had hope with the guy I liked. But now that things are also non-existant, I've just let myself go. Over these few days I must of gained 1-2 lbs...I can see it in my face. I want a way out of this dieting mentality. Before, I was so clear on what I was doing. But now, I just eat for the heck of eating. I've lost weight, and I'm happy. But I feel like I'm on my way back to gaining weight...like before. I can so EASILY gain 5lbs in two days it scares me. That's what happened to me in the past.

I'd like to eat normally...but I just can't anymore. I'd eat normally, and follow the normal meal with a WHOLE box of Pot of Gold (today). I just feel like poop.

I don't know where to turn...I'm so close to my goal, yet I can't help but drift away. I don't know exactly WHY I'm doing this to myself.

I hope we can get through this together. I wish I was as cheerful as you, Kaitikat. And Cyndy, I'm gonna send you a PM...otherwise I'd never end this post.

HEY girls!

I'm sO tired today! I had school, then work. But hey...I didn't overeat today! I know, because my heart isn't beating super fast and my stomach isn't hurting.

B: oatmeal w/ brown sugar
L: snack size oreos (I know I'm bad...but it was under 300 cal per bag)
D: tuna/salmon roll, avocado roll, california roll (about 250 cal each)

So...I had about 1300 cals today? And guess what?! I was TOTALLY FULL!

Hehe now I'm off to SLEEP!!!

Sorry that Im barging into your guys private chat thing, But I was reading through it and you guys kinda sound like where I am at, with my weight and dieting and stuff. I was wondering if I could join your chat?
lol, i feel kinda stupid asking if I can join, hehe....Its alright if i guys dont want me to tho...

Well Im 15 yrs old, and in grade 10.
Im a dancer/gymnast. I weigh around 126 :mad: right now...but im hoping to get down to 100-105. and Im 5 ft 2.

Hi Blondie77! I personally have absolutely no problem if you would like to join in. We are all very supportive here and just want to help each other out. I think I speak on all our behalves saying "welcome to the group!" hehe

We could use all the encouragement and support possible because healthy eating, lifestyle changes and losing weight are one of the hardest battles to fight.

Look forward to learning more about you :)

Thank you guys so much for letting me join, lol. I know how hard it is to lose weight and support really does help.

Well I went to a party tonight and I had some chips and stuff. And a few candies. Supper was pasta, so I filled up on salad and just had like 1/2 c. of pasta. But then of course there was cake, but tomorrow i am going to be really healthy and just eat minimally.

Today I made a few 'motivational posters' as to speak. I made one that is like a chart thingy. I will keep it on the fridge in the kitchen and have to go through it everytime I enter the kitchen. At the top it says 'Are you truly hungry?' then there are Yes and No, At No it says Leave the Kitchen Now!!!!! and Yes says Drink 2 glasses of water then Leave the kitchen.THen its like still hungry? yes, no....and yes says to eat sum cut up veggies and then its like drink more water and then its have some fruit and yogurt and then at the end it just says LEAVE THE KITCHEN NOW before you give in!!!
I made another one with some skinny gymnasts on it, and it has questions like, do u want to be skinny? are u willing to make some sacrifices (cutting out junk) to lose weight? Do you want to feel confident? and other ones like those, and then its like, if YES is the answer to any one of these, then leave the kitchen.

Lol, yea well I just blabbed about nothing, sorry! i got a little excited about my little system tho, hehe.

Well I've gotta go, mom just came home with groceries (healthy foods! we dont buy junk anymore cuz she is trying to help me with my weightloss)

Oh my goodness, blondie!! You are SO smart! I think I'll make those posters right now. Ok, tomorrow...because I have homework to do.
Welcome to our chat! We're SO super nice here, and we DO help eachother out! Just feel free to say anything here, whether it's related to weight or not. Cyndy and I tend to talk about our personal lives here too, hehe.
At any rate, we're all trying to get to our goal, so we'll give eachother all the support we need.
I ate quite a bit today, but I'm not feeling too guilty, because it wasn't like I ate because I was bored. I went out for lunch and dinner...and they happened to be high in calorie. Oh well.
yeah, our stats are VERY similar! Notice we're all 5"2 tall?
So what are your eating habits like, blondie?

MissyK...I just have to comment on the pic you have under you screen name...is that you!?!?!?! If so, if I do say so myself...you have a HOT body LOL!!!! Seriously, though, if I am correct in assuming that is you, congrats because you couldnt possibly look any better...can you sense the envy in my voice haha ;)

hey girlies sorry i havent talked to in a while...ive been so busy with school...uhhh. diet is going pretty well. im STILL trying to lose these stupid pounds. but then again ive been eating whatever i want lately...thats not good! i have to lose these pounds before i go crazy!!! :dizzy: haha. well i have to go do some things...ttyl!

-kaitikat

thanks, Cyndy. Yes, it is me. But it's me
a) sucking it in until it hurts
b) standing in the dark to take an inch off each side of my body
c) wearing my "Indian Rose" brand new jeans that make me look like I have hips when in reality my silhouette is two parallel lines.

ahaha and you've yet to see my butt, where most of my fat distributes itself.

I put that up there because I've been working out my stomach the most for 2 months, and I'm proud of the little bit of definition.

I'd put my face up there but then again...I hate my face. Hehe.

So today, I've decided that I have to eat more to lose. Otherwise, I'd feel deprived. I've been reading the posts here at 3fc, and eating 6 small meals a day seems to do the trick for people.

So far:

B: coffee :coffee: , oatmeal and brown sugar (not substitute sugar this time), and bowl of grapes.

Tonight I'm going to work on getting toned. I measured and found out I lost 3 inches off my waist (30 before, now 27) since the 10lbs.

Well today I am doing fairly well with my eating.
I had:
B: silhouette plain fat free yogurt w/ 20 grapes and Splenda
L: whole wheat pita w/ canned light tuna and fat free cheese
Snack: roasted chickpeas (some crazy thing i've tried) 15 pistachios

This school year i've been trying some really crazy food things, very unordinary, my friends always make fun of my new ideas, lol, because they are so healthy and weird.

Like I've been bringing lettuce wraps w/ lunch meat and cheese and mustard. Like the lunchmeat and stuff is wrapped around a large lettuce leaf.

And i've been making Ricotta creme for dessert from the South Beach diet, its just light ricotta cheese and splenda and vanilla.

ya well, I'll ttyl!

Hey Blondie I don't think that is weird at all...in fact I have done just about all those myself! (love the roasted chick peas ;) )

well the rest of my day eating wise was pretty bad, I had an extremely bad gymnastics practice and so i was just really pissed off and extremely upset and disappointed with myself. so, not thinking in the car on the way home, i ate like half a candy bar and then had like an entire bowl on jello when i got home (luckily it was the sugar free stuff) and then like an apple and peanut butter...but oh well. Im gunna make meal plans for the week tonight or tomorrow. I am determined to stick to em 2!!!

I saw on a post somewhere else on this site they were having a challenge thing with points and i had an idea Why don't we have a little contest thing with our little chat group. We could like each make a personal meal plan for the next day and then hafta follow it. Like we will each limit ourselves to so many calories each day. And set goals for drinking water and exercise each day. Then we will like get points or lose points for each daily goal we achieve/fail....and at the end of the week we will see how each of us did...just a thought! Let me know if u guys wanna give it a try sumtime!!

Hey girls!

Sorry I dont have much time to write, I gotta be out the door in one hour and I have to get ready and so on...buuuut
Blondie - I think that is a wonderful idea. Goal setting can be very beneficial if even we dont set x amount of pounds, just the goal of sticking to a certain plan, certain # of calories, drinking your water, exercising...whatever your personal goal are!
We should do that sometime :)
Anyhoo I gotta run............I hope you all eat healthy and have a great day!

Guys I need your hellllpppp....pleeeeease.....

I didn't have a great eating day, but it wasn't like AWFUL...just started overeating when I felt stressed before but then stopped. Now I just want to go downstairs and eat my kitchen clean but it's only because I feel "I've already blown it, I might as well go all the way". But it is this thinking that got me this fat in the first place. It is so hard for me to stop a binge once i've started eating way more than I know I should have.

At the very least I was wise enough to post here for support before going and stuffing my face.

How do you guys stop yourself from eating more when you feel like you've blown. There is always room for damage control and I know from past experience that stopping before a huge eating extravaganza makes a difference...but how do I not let myself eat any more!!?!?! Thank you!

gosh...if I knew how to stop, I wouldn't have just gone to Mcdonalds today after having an apple strudel AND chocolate chip cookie for lunch.
I guess the thing to keep in mind is that occasionally, even skinny people eat lots. It's really not the end of the world if we go over our daily goal of 1400 calories. That's just the amount of calories that we consume to lose weight. As long as you don't binge often, it's ok.
My advice is to drink (immediately) 8 cups of water. Yes, it'll hurt. BUT, trust me...you WON'T want to eat afterward. And you'll get that full feeling from after a huge binge-fest. You know...that "ow I'm going to burst" feeling.
WEll, my book "7 secrets of slim people" came today. I'm hoping it'll cure my eating disorder (because I seriously have binge-eating disorder). If not, I'll probably go to Chapters and look for a book written specifically for binge eaters.

Thank you for the advice MissyK, I am definitely going to try that one for next time (probably tonight the way I'm going!).
I do feel much better this morning, and I weighed myself (bad idea after a bad eating day) but at the very least I am still not back up to my highest.
I hope you guys dont mind if I post here a few times periodically throughout the day because I am home from school today and basically sit in front of my computer doing work all day. Although, I do have a dentist appointment and have to take my dogs to the vet :) the highlight of my day LOL

Anyways, the reason I want to post here a few times is to keep track, even if for one freakin' day, what I eat. If I feel accountable to tell somebody, then maybe I will think twice before going off and eating way more than I should.

My goal is 1600 calories. I know that may sound like a lot but keep in mind I am basically starting over and I do weigh the most out of all you guys (*face red in embarassment*). But I dont want to make my target too low and then mess up.

Well I am trying to evenly space out my cals:

Breakfast:
Mock "pancakes"
That consists of ground up oatmeal, 1 egg and a grated apple. A little light sour cream and maple syrup on top.
Coffee with skim milk

Total: 375

Okay, please someone tell me if it is too annoying to continually read my posts and I will lay off a bit.

I guess you could say I am experimenting a bit. I have an extremely hard time dieting. So at this point just tracking what I do and see what my patterns look like I may be able to figure out what the heck I am doing and what works best for the future. I realize that during this tracking phase I might not lose weight, but thats ok with me right now so long as I figure out a system that will work for me forever.

I tend to get very hungry mid-morning. So I went downstairs a couple hours after my last post and ate - quite a bit - but then I remembered I promised myself I would write it down here - so without further ado, here it goes -

the rest of the pancakes - 60
yogurt - 75
bowl of bran cereal w/ half a banana - 230
non-fat/white sugar free muffin - 200

Total: 565

I thought I had binged, but 565 isn't absolutely terrible (for me). I feel better now, b/c my tummy was grumbling before. We'll see how long it takes before I get hungry again, and I plan on making a soup which is very low in calories. So that may be lunch. I'll keep you updated on how this day goes. I feel like a scientist on a weird treck trying to discover something lol.

Hey guys,
well baaaaaaaad news...Im back up close to my highest weight :( :( :(
Like 130....I dont know how it happened either...But anyways, I got some books in the mail from Chapters last night, one is "Diet for Dancers" and the toher is the "Dancer Body Book"....there is info on nutrition for dancers n such...and a few meal plans for 1000 cal, 1,350 and 1,600cal diets. So I've started to read thru those and I think I might try following the meal plans...the only thing is they were published back in like 1990 and 1984 and a alot of nutritional and dieting weightloss research has happened since then...but I'll give it go anwyays!
i AM DESPERATE TO LOSE THIS WEIGHT...
my teacher keeps telling me I have to get thinner. I have been on vacation and gained weight since she last saw me...and she will be expecting to see me thinner this weekend :mad: :(

aghhhhhh...so frustrating....

I was at home all day too. I didn't overeat, though. My book arrived!!! I'll be posting inspirational quotes when I come across them.
Could the 4lbs be due to water, or time of the month, Blondie? I hope so.
So far, I've read the first 4 chapters (instead of doing my homework).

Girls, get this:

"For every deprivation, there is an equal and opposite binge, sooner or later" -Roth, Geenen

This book basically talks about the need to listen to our BODIES, not our MINDS about eating. Think of a baby. It doesn't eat after it's full, does it? It turns away from the bottle. We were all born with the natural ability to eat the right amount of food. But due to external influences (learned eating behaviours, dieting, emotional eating), our minds tell us to eat even though our bodies don't want anymore food. That's "overeating".

That's what I've learned so far. Just thought I'd share.

Cyndy, that recipe sounds GREAT! Can you give it to me w/ more details? I can't cook hehe.

So, I "listened to my body" today.

B: oatmeal, grapes
L: 6 beef dumplings
D: 4 potstickers, beef noodles, vegetables
S: Kinetix protein bar, apple

I'd say that's about 1450 calories. Not bad. I didn't count calories as I was eating. I just asked myself, "am I full?"

I can really live like this. It does feel like I'm controlling myself, though...but I'm sure I'll eventually return to normal eating habits. I just don't want to binge ever again in my life! I've gained 1lb, (not water weight, but FAT) due to the binge fest I've been having over this little while. But HEY. You live and learn.

Hi Girls,

First off, get ready for a super long post. You may want to grab yourself a coffee (to keep you awake!) and make sure you're in a comfy chair :)

I need to talk to you about something I have come to realize, and explain why you will be seeing less of me around here.

I wouldn't even bother posting this, but I have grown really close to you and appreciate the kindness and support I receive here so much. I especially want to say thank you for the acceptance you have all shown.

I don't really know where to start explaining what I am talking about, it is nothing bad, nor sad. But I feel like I need to explain to the best of my ability why I need to stop this obsession of mine.

I will quote a little from my diary entry this morning that I wrote on the train. To begin, last night I was saying a prayer before going to sleep, or rather just talking to God, myself, however you want to view it. I trying to figure out this weight "issue". It had dawned on me right there and then that I have spent almost half of my entire life spending just about every single day concerned with my body, what I am eating, how much I weigh. I suppose that would be okay if it led to a permanent change and it did not bother me. But that is not the case. I am worse off then when I started about 10 years ago. So much of my thought patterns is devoted to not only losing weight, but trying to figure out ways to "normalize" myself, eat "properly", stop binging and so on.

As of today, I give up dieting, trying to lose weight, thinking so much about the whole diet/health/exercise lifestyle - it has done nothing for me! I mean it - truly, madly, deeply. If I have spent so much time at it and have not got it right yet, it is never going to happen. It makes it eat more, I think about how I can do it, I struggle against my own body, it makes me depressed a lot, too. I especially can't force myself to undereat after reading "How to become Naturally Thin by Eating More" by Jean Antonello and being a part of that forum board. But even at that, an anti-diet approach, I don't want to be part of it either. I want OUT, I want my life back, I want freedom.
I want to pick up at 11 or 12 years old when I started with this whole 'eating less' ordeal (and I was sadly even a skinny to normal weight kid) but I thought cutting back to carrots and celery at lunch time would make me thinner - totally bizarre. I think MissyK, you quoted Geneen Roth saying "for every deprivation there is an equal and opposite binge." I testify to that 100%. I am curvy now and I didn't have to be - had I not interfered with my body's natural hunger and fullness signals I would probably be a good 20 pounds thinner because naturally I was never heavy.

I have given up dieting many time and tried to follow my own body's cues and it would work for awhile but something would eventually throw me off again. I was still obsessed with the idea of losing weight. This time is different for me. I don't give a sh*t anymore about this utter craziness (to me, not you guys - you are able to handle it much differently than me). I am forcing myself to give up every diet/food/exercise forum board that i belong to on the internet, as even the "healthy" ones have not helped me out. Well, many did teach me more about being different foods and the dangers/consequences of dieting and a lot of information health-wise. But, I think, sometimes you are better off knowing less. Stick to the basics. Yes, it is intriguing to me to learn the how's and why's of certain food combinations and so on, but the technicalities could drive one crazy. There is TOO much information and thinking rationally here, it is all a little crazy. I dont believe any of this will help me live a longer and healthier life, and there are many people who live into their 80's (that i know of) who didn't follow any wacko eating plan.

I am only speaking for me, I am not at all trying to insult anyone so please, I beg, do not take offense to this. If any of this leads to a healthy change in one's life than it is totally worth it - but it has only led me in a downward spiral.

But speaking of life just previously, I want to spend it learning new things - not regurgitating and re-reading the same diet/anti-diet books that I know inside-out. I tend to do that a lot. My time is spent trying to motivate myself into it. I've made a decision and come **** or high water I am sticking to it. Next time I'm bored I'll instead pick up a geography book I have and learn something about the world, or any other of the really interesting books I have. Or finally sign up for those piano/painting/dancing/art lessons that I've always wanted to try out, and do something different, something a little scary thats outta the ordinary for me.
I am giving up my books on anything food/diet related. I am putting them away in my basement and forgetting about them (not like I havent practically memorized them!). This time it is me, myself and I and I trust whole heartedly that I have the strength to do this, because, also, I have no other choice if I want a life that I can enjoy. Basically, I'm going to move on in life as though there is no problem to fix, like it never existed. I have read enough on how to overcome the problem, but now I want to do it on my own and do it by forgetting it. If that makes sense...

When I came home and turned on my computer I struggled not to visit the other boards I frequent, but I had to write to you, my friends, and let you know that it has nothing to do with you, and I care deeply that you all do well. And for that reason, I will pop in here now and then to check up on you, or email you separately to catch up.

I should mention that I don't plan on eating myself to death or anything! Binging is not the way I want it at all, either. It is unnatural and unhealthy.
I know that by giving up dieting I will eventually lose weight because eating in and of itself does not cause weight gain, overeating and binging does though. But I am not concerned with that right now. Weight loss will come when it comes, if ever, and in the meantime I have to live with the person I am right now. But it can only get better b/c I feel amazing when I dont binge, and I only binge when I try to limit, therefore i will feel better immediately when I stop doing that. I should mention that so far today has gone totally different than a normal day. I got up started to make eggs and chicken bacon and my dad finished the cooking while I got ready for school. By the time I was ready I sat down and didn't really want it. I ate almost a whole egg and few bites of the chicken bacon, but it just had no appeal. I onlly had one hour of class so i quickly threw in my bad a nectarine and an apple. I was going to get a muffin near school, but they looked kinda stale so I passed and had the fruit. Went to the bakery when I was coming back home, got a bunch of stuff, and came home - didnt even eat right away, but when I eventually did I only had one freakin' sandwich. This is coming from a girl who eats everything when she can. But all day I refused to think about diet or food or exercise and suddenly it lost its control on me. I didnt not eat more b/c i want to "lose weight", I didnt eat more right then because I knew I can go back in one hour or whenever I am hungry again. I also got a free pound cake from the bakery which is still untouched. I know I will have a piece I'm sure, but when I really feel like it, which just isnt right now.

I understand that you guys are not at this frustration point, really a breaking point, where you need to let it go. You may never reach this point. And as long as things are working out for you and going according to plan and you don't mind doing it - all the power to you and there is no reason to change it. I am not saying this to try and influence any of you out of a diet lifestyle. I absolutely never impose my views on someone else, but you mean a lot to me and I want you to understand why I am giving up on it.

I apologize profusely for the way too lengthly post. I just want you to know that I am not leaving forever, and I will most certainly keep in touch, but for the sake of my sanity and my happiness, I am ready to move on to a phase in my life that does not revolve around or involve weight loss.

Much Love,
Cyndy

I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us when I say you'll be missed, Cyndy. I wish you all the best.


Sigh...depressing day today.

So far,
B: toast and cream cheese, grapes
L: Lean Cuisine chicken carbonara
S: 2 campino candies
D: haven't had it yet.

I signed up for ballroom dance lessons today!

ok guys, sorry I haven't posted in so long. I've been very busy.
Ok well Im doing extremely bad. Im at like 127.5-130lbs...Really sucks...Because my instructor keeps getting on my case about losing weight :(
Its really hard.....agh.....but I HAVE TO DO THIS....I have a competition in the start of December and HAVE TO be skinnier by then. I got my suits made and they hafta fit me!!!

Well anyways, my PLANS for eating are :

B: 1 bran muffin ( homemade w/ splenda and no butter or anything)
1/2 banana

L: 1/2 pita w/ sliced turkey and mustard...or tuna salad mad w/ yogurt
can of v8
1 piece of fruit
cut up veggies


I've been trying this Exchange program from Diet for Dancers...im tryign the 1000cal. diet...but its tough...i end up binging and eating peanut butter

snack: silhouette yogurt smoothie thing....only 70 cals...
piece of fruit
left oevr veggies from school

dinner: chicken or tufo and like cooked veggies or salad

snack: yogurt
or fruit
or light popcorn (3 cups)

Hello all...

Long time no talk! I just wanted to drop in to see how you all are doing. I noticed how this post hasn't been used in awhile and am hoping you are all fine and happy :)

I am feeling a whole lot better and think I can ease my way back into a little more structured eating. I needed a break though. Throughout this time I ate whenever I was hungry until full on real foods, healthy stuff - no junk or processed - and I never binged. In fact, if I probably stayed with this way eventually I would lose weight, it would take a long time. But I am contemplating tweaking it a bit now that I feel less stressed about the whole thing.

Anyways, if any of you still check the boards...just pop in and say hi I you feel like it, I'd love to hear from you and how your progress is going or whether you needed a break too! hehe

I am trying to post my stats so we'll see if it worked!

It's me again! I hope you guys see this post because it has been changed now to the support groups forum.
Today was not good because I ended up eating the candy thats supposed to be for Halloween trick or treaters.
Anyways, tomorrow morning I am getting up and working out. Strict counting of calories, aiming for 1600.
I do not want to start feeling sorry for myself, getting mad about the candy I ate today -- forward thinking, no looking back. I will lose the weight. Period.

Think positive with me here, okay?!

Hope to hear from you
Cyndy

Okay girl, this is my third post! I don't think any of you have seen the post in this new area so I'm bumping it in hopes that you'll notice so you can give me an update on how you are doing!

I am finding it surprisingly easy to healthy well without overeating.. One day this week I had the Halloween candy in my house but havent touched it since (and dont want to!)

I feel really great and so much better than I did a month ago. I am so relieved to be happy again, for some reason I was getting really depressed before.

I have also found that since focusing more on my health and body, it has given me a new "obsession", and I quote that because its not really an obsession, but has given me another focus other than to concentrate on my guy problems, and its working better than I ever thought.

Hey

So sorry I havent posted in like AGES!!!!

Well im on day four of south beach. My mom convinced me to try it because she likes it so much.

God weightloss is so frustrating. Ya on Halloween I was so proud, I gave all of my candy to my friends, except for like 5 mini chocolate bars which i polished off the next day. But then i had no more candy and haven't missed it at all.

I found it very easy to eat healthy. I try not to think about food so much. When I do think about food I start to think about how much i really want some bad food and then i cant stop thinking about it and i eat some. then i eat even more and even more.
Yea if i just dont even think about it at all, it really helps. When i am like ok today i will have NO chocolate, i keep saying that to myself and then in the evening i binge and go crazy eating chocolate. I just try to keep myself busy and I eat a lot less.

Oh you guys should try the South Beach mock french toast (on the south beach phase one breakfast recipes) its delicious@!!!!

Hey Blondie!

Congrats! I just noticed the weight loss. Wow, I would love to be 127 lbs again :)

I am doing much better because I am holding a whole new attitude. And what is making such a difference for me is saying to myself that this is such a small price to pay to be slim (for me, writing it down).

Good luck and talk to you later!

Im glad that you have found a good motivation!

It can get really hard. I am under soooo much pressure right now to lose weight from my coach. Competition is soon, and I MUST BE THIN!!!I know its not right to listen to other people, but it is helping me to push myself to do what I want. :p

Are you guys following a low fat diet or low carb, or low cal?

Hey

I have never followed low carb, for me that is getting too complicated haha. I generally just count calories, for me it is the easiest and because I used to do it religiously when I was younger and much thinner, I pretty much know the counts off the top of my head!

I just need all the motivation I can get. What motivates you?

is this chat still going?

I've switched back to my original logic or low cal and low fat