South Beach Diet - Shark named Jack Daniels spotted at the Beach




VTprop
06-12-2004, 12:30 PM
I was doing so well...I was on a business trip all this week (week 2 of Phase I) and adhered to the diet as best as I could. But last night I went out with my roommates to celebrate one of them getting a new job and it happened. A glass of wine at dinner, low carb beer at the bar, straight to whiskey and diet coke to drown sorrows of recent break up. Help! How do I get back on? Do I start today as Day One again? I'm so dissapointed in myself.

Shannon
(watching Food TV and studying for the Bar exam miserably) :coffee:


MittenNKim
06-12-2004, 01:13 PM
How do I get back on? Do I start today as Day One again? I'm so dissapointed in myself.

First off, DON'T be disappointed in yourself -- we've all done it. I did it the other day, had two beers at a football game. What you need to do is take this, and learn from it... a little cheat will turn into a big one, so think of that when you're about to take a bite/sip.

As far as starting over, I have re-started the program after my slipup. Here's why (and others may disagree, but this is what I know):

My friend is doing her PhD in nutritional sciences. I told her about what happened and she explained that, in the first two weeks of this plan, your body goes into a state where it's burning fat for fuel because you're not giving it carbs. That kickstarts a chain of events, that allows you to add back carbs into your diet and still lose weight.

What you (and I) have done, is break that chain of events. So, if you just continue after this slip up and don't give yourself a full, cheat-free two weeks, you probably won't see the same kind of results as if you had done the full two weeks. Does that make sense? (This is what she told me, and it really resonated with me which is why I've re-started the plan from scratch. I'm on Ph1, Week 1, Day 2 right now.)

That said, you have to do what's right for you. And maybe you can keep losing if you head to PH2 anyway. You have to monitor your own body. If nothing happens, then you know you have to start fresh with Ph1. Or maybe just do one week of Ph1. It's all dependent on what your body responds to.

Just DON'T GIVE UP! The first two weeks ARE tough -- they're limiting for many of us, and it can be very hard. But a whole new world of food opens up in Ph2. And, don't forget, there are recipes and supports on this board to make those two weeks much more painless. :)

Good luck, keep us posted!

pebbles396
06-12-2004, 01:15 PM
I found a shark - he was extra dirty had a few olives near him, and his name was Tangeray. (Maybe he was a sting ray.)

I washed down total pub grub with him - so back to phase 1 for me. oh well!


SBNewbie
06-12-2004, 01:46 PM
sooo... if I cheat while on Phase 1, it would be better to start all over again? that is enough incentive to keep me from cheating... I am on day 6, after tomorrow, I will be half way done.

thanks for the info,
lisa z.

VTprop
06-12-2004, 03:16 PM
Thank you all so much. It's wonderful to know that I'm not alone in this struggle. I hadn't even lost that much over the last two weeks but I feel healthier. Square one for me....yummy greek salad for lunch.

Ruthxxx
06-12-2004, 04:13 PM
Failing is falling down and not getting up. You are up!
I'm drinking a low carb beer as I type!

chick_on_the_beach
06-12-2004, 05:33 PM
My friend is doing her PhD in nutritional sciences. I told her about what happened and she explained that, in the first two weeks of this plan, your body goes into a state where it's burning fat for fuel because you're not giving it carbs. That kickstarts a chain of events, that allows you to add back carbs into your diet and still lose weight.

So does this mean that if we stall at any stage we can go right back to phase one for two weeks and drop another 8-13 pounds? This could be useful for some of us that are looking at many months of phase two. How does it work if we are low (good) carb anyway then switch to phase one for two weeks?

jenne1017
06-13-2004, 03:17 AM
I too just met the shark named Jack. Ugh, I have no advice. Ugh. Let's just get back on the horse tomorrow, ok?

ADDflower
06-13-2004, 12:48 PM
So does this mean that if we stall at any stage we can go right back to phase one for two weeks and drop another 8-13 pounds? This could be useful for some of us that are looking at many months of phase two. How does it work if we are low (good) carb anyway then switch to phase one for two weeks?

Yes. It says in the books that you can spend more time on phase I if you want to, but the book admits that it's not easy and it's up to you. Me... I'm not real crazy about it but I've got a long way to go... so maybe later... I have 3 more days on phase one right now... :D

:foot:

Kalikat
06-13-2004, 12:55 PM
Well know I know I need to kick it back ion high gear.. back to Phase one for me =D

That is okay, cause I didn't mind it at all.. I just have to get the support from my family, and my mom and I will just have to cool healthier meals =)

Anyways, it is okay to cheat once in awhile.. **** I did it every week (a small bag of chips, dip and some pop) and I still managed to lose weight..

Now imagine if I didnt have those chips.. I think that in itself is inncentive enough not to cheat =)

chick_on_the_beach
06-13-2004, 03:35 PM
Hmmm ... I think I need to go back to phase one for a couple of weeks to kick start things again. I didn't mind the food on phase one, it is in the weekend when I am out and about and getting food on the run or eating out that I find it really difficult to stick to it.

MittenNKim
06-13-2004, 03:38 PM
So does this mean that if we stall at any stage we can go right back to phase one for two weeks and drop another 8-13 pounds? This could be useful for some of us that are looking at many months of phase two. How does it work if we are low (good) carb anyway then switch to phase one for two weeks?

In the book, Dr.A even says that some people switch back to Ph1 for some additional weight loss. And, some people even stay on Ph1 most of the time -- just because they like it and don't want or need the extra carbs.

And, lots of the ladies on the board here have said that, after a couple of off-plan days, they've gone back to Ph1 just to correct themselves.

SO, again, I think it's ALL about your own body and how it responds. Remember, if you've been on Ph2 for a while and not losing anymore, and you go back to Ph1, it doesn't mean you're going to have the same results as the first time (that 8-13lbs you talked about). There are SO many circumstances that contribute to weight loss, you never know what might happen.

You have to be patient. Remember, super-fast weight loss isn't healthy for your body... it can also cause saggy skin that does'nt tighten up if you go too fast (which can look pretty gross, depending where it is!!), and it's far harder to maintain. Slow and steady.

Chubbamuma
06-13-2004, 11:59 PM
When you fell off the wagon, did you notice a bumpy patch? That was me getting run over by the wagon!
We went away for the weekend, and I spent 3 nights in a row drinking. I stayed away from the beer, but I think the smirinof coolers (more than 17 in 3 days...) kinda kicked me in the *** after all. :o
I'll be joining the phase 1 restart line too! It happens to most of us at least once (or 3 or 4 times!)

Kalikat
06-14-2004, 12:13 AM
lol Chubbamama.. Man, college is going to be really tough, and I am going to have to do phase 1 a bizillion times... it will be rough, but if i don;t gain the freshmen 15, I will be the happiest camper ever.

IMO it doesnt matter if you cheat, as long as you don't cheat everyday, you will still do fine.. That is just my opinion tho =)

MittenNKim
06-14-2004, 01:03 PM
IMO it doesnt matter if you cheat, as long as you don't cheat everyday, you will still do fine.. That is just my opinion tho =)

I'm going to be a jerk here, and disagree with that statement. :D Here's why.

This plan is made so that, if you DON'T cheat in Ph1, you'll see the benefits. Because, by the time you get to Ph2 and Ph3, some of those "cheat" foods are allowed.

Again, it's all about breaking the chain of metabolic events -- if you break them in Ph1, you're not going to lose the same or as effectively. And, just remember: Ph1 is only two weeks. Yes, it can be hard, but if you can be committed to those two weeks, it's so much easier from there on in.

So... I can't agree with your statement. Because one cheat leads to two, leads to three... then suddenly you're not only NOT losing, you're gaining, and that's not the point of this plan.

(kim hops off soapbox) hehe

pebbles396
06-14-2004, 01:36 PM
Kim,
I'll join you. I'm freshly starting Phase 1 (even though I just missed the boat by one full day) but it does make a huge difference.

MittenNKim
06-14-2004, 01:46 PM
I'll join you. I'm freshly starting Phase 1 (even though I just missed the boat by one full day) but it does make a huge difference.

Good! We'll check in together at the end of our two weeks and see how we did. I just can't wait to see more weight come off. I honestly started this and questioned if I'd lose anything at all -- even an ounce. So, to see 147 on my scale on Saturday, I couldn't have been happier!

beachgal
06-14-2004, 03:32 PM
Hi, guys!

I must admit that as nice at the idea of cheating sounds, when I think about how much I have already given up and having to start over, I know that it's not worth it. I have realized that I can actually call up a memory of how my favorite things taste, and sometimes that is enough to keep me away from a cheat. And sometimes I think about how I felt after eating all those carbs, and realize that I do not want to be there again. I feel so healthy and so much happier in my skin now that I never want to go back to the way I was.

I guess I am blessed to not really like drinking much. I enjoy fruity, frothy drinks, but more for the taste than for the alcoholic content. I've never gotten so much as a buzz, no matter how much I drink, but I frequently get sleepy after one glass of wine. Staying away from alcohol on this diet has not been any sort of issue for me. Am I the *only* one that feels that way? :chin:

I agree with Kim's assessment of the way the metabolism works during Phase 1. Cheating will cheat it of working. That said, if you fall of the wagon, you do so much better if you get back up instead of beating yourself up over it. We all fall down...and we probably will again. The trick is to not let it define us. I totally agree with what Ruth said...as long as we get back up, we have not failed.

:cheer:

MittenNKim
06-14-2004, 03:36 PM
Staying away from alcohol on this diet has not been any sort of issue for me. Am I the *only* one that feels that way? :chin:

I don't think so, Beachgal. I enjoy beer because I really like the taste of it. But I don't like any hard liquor, I think coolers are just gross (what an awful aftertaste!), and I can only drink red wine if I'm eating a steak or something with a strong taste like that. Don't even bring white or blush wine to me!

But, I find that I can avoid it just as easily as drink it. Yes, I did cheat with beer, but it was at a football game and it was hot out, and I wanted a refreshing drink. I don't get drunk easily either -- I get full, LONG before I get drunk! You're in good company. :)

VTprop
06-14-2004, 04:00 PM
I'm so glad so many have encountered the same trouble as I have. I did successfully go out to a bar on saturday night and drank diet coke. It helped that I had the good excuse that I was driving too. Maybe I'll just be dd all the time and that will alos help me fight my urge to drink during the first few weeks. But I'm on track again with Phase One, Day 3. Congrats to all of us not giving up, or in, and starting anew. Scale was good to me today also....down to 161.4lbs.
Good Luck~
Shannon

wendyjo
06-14-2004, 04:13 PM
For me being on Phase 1 was hard, but it all seemed worthwhile to be able to get onto Phase 2 and be allowed to have a few goodies now and then. In other words Phase 2 was my reward for being so good on Phase 1. I even went through PMS, my birthday, and DH's birthday in those first 2 weeks and the only slip-up I had was one Irish coffee on my B-day (took the place of cake and lots of drinks).

Kalikat
06-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Oh well, I guess it is cause I am still a teen, that it doesnt affect me that much..

I have a question, Does Diet Pepsi have 0 carbs in it?

I have always wanted to know?

beachgal
06-14-2004, 05:48 PM
Kalikat, I'm not sure about the carbs in Diet Pepsi. I assume so, but check the website, which I figure is probably www.pepsi.com to see for sure. And remember that SBD is not a low carb diet, so the carb count in the soda doesn't matter as much as any sugar it might have. Also, the caffeine and carbonation make you more thirsty.

That said, I drink about five bottles (2 liters each) of soda a week! ;) I obviously do not practice what I preach! :lol:

Diamondgrrl7
06-14-2004, 08:38 PM
I think I will join you ladies back at square one. I went on a mini vacation this weekend to Treasure Island (Florida) and ended up having several pina coladas, a brownie sundae, and coconut shrimp. It was so not worth how sick/guilty I feel right now. Looks like its back to eggs and salad for me. :) G'luck to those of you that are starting over as well.

Kalikat
06-14-2004, 11:37 PM
So diet pepsi has no carbs, i just checked.. i would post the link, but i need 50 messages =/ Time to spam!

Wheeee, Well I am on the SB/Low Carb it works ;P