South Beach Diet - Weight gain after switch to Phase II




kaetra
06-07-2004, 10:40 AM
Is gaining a bit of weight when you switch from Phase I to Phase II common?

I am also discouraged by my slow weight loss. I only lost 4 pounds in Phase I. I moved on to Phase II anyway because I figured that since I only have 25 pounds to lose that overall it would be slower going than for others who have more to lose.

Saturday was the end of my 1st week on Phase II. I gained back two pounds! I didn't cheat even once, I practically follow the book on the meal plans and have been very careful not to eat too much of the new "introduce slowly" foods. I've also been drinking 64oz of water a day or more. I have been excercising about 20 minutes a day, 5 days a week, which is the same as on Phase I. I would like to be able to blame the two pounds on TOM water gain, but I'm no where near due for that. BLAH!

I've been measuring my waist size. It's still at 37", no change there over the week, so I had at least that to cushion the blow of the extra pounds. I would have been happier with no weight loss obviously rather than up 2 lbs!

Yeah, I do feel healthier but 1 step forward 1 step back doesn't get you any closer to goal now does it? :-(


Barb0522
06-07-2004, 11:14 AM
I'm having the same problem. I lost 4 during phase 1 and I have been going up and down a half pound over the last several days. I'm just going to be patient and maybe up my exercise a little bit. Good luck!

melissaK
06-07-2004, 12:04 PM
I can share my experience, after my first week of phase 2 I did not see any wight loss and i always wiegh in on tue. mornings, but when thursday i decided to get on the scale I had acually weighrd 5 pounds less. So i started wawighing more often out of curiosity and i flucuate all the time. I have no answer as to why but do know regardless to what the scale says my clothes are getting looser and i do feel healthier. Maybe you so not follow the book word for word because it is only a guidline. Try cutting back on some of the foods you added maye only one fruit and one bread type a day. I do oatmeal for breakfast and one fruit a day as one of my snacks and that seems to be my trick. And I knwo that exersise will also have an effect, muscle is heavier than fat. so it is a possitive. You dont have a lot to loose so you may take longer to see the effects of all your hard work. Just hang in there and it will all work out in the end.


pebbles396
06-07-2004, 01:05 PM
Traci -
I would suggest 2 things.

1 - Are you drinking milk, or getting enough calcium. I find that my weighloss drags immensley when I don't have enough calcium. I have a soy protein shake for a treat every day (it's totally legal Phase1 - but tastes great).

2 - If you are following the book for Phase 2 I think that they introduce a lot of carbs very quickly. When I switched to phase 2, I was adding 1 carb per day. So, one half of an apple, or just barely adding in smallish portions of cereal. (I call it phase 1.5).

You will definitely lose slower because you have less to lose, but I would consider adding fewer carbs because I think the book has you adding an awful lot back fast.

kaetra
06-07-2004, 02:19 PM
Thanks for the encouragement and advice. :-) BIG HUGS to EVERYONE!!

I have been drinking nonfat milk, trying to take advantage of the newish dairy-calcium-helps-you-lose-weight research findings. I was thinking maybe that's what was slowing me down! But I won't give up...

I see what you mean about the book having you add carbs pretty fast. I wondered about the strawberries for breakfast and then again for dessert. I'm going to stop eating the semi-sweet chocolate too I think. It's obviously just too much for me.

I am very petite as well, only 5 feet tall even. So following the book is probably just giving me more overall calories than I really need.

beachgal
06-07-2004, 02:52 PM
Traci, I totally concur with Pebbles' posting. The book has you eating a lot of starches and fruits all at once (which I think is odd...not sure why they do that!). I found myself gaining a couple pounds in the beginning of Phase 2 when I followed the book. I went down by one fruit and one starch a day until I lost weight again. I'm now on one starch and one carb a day and losing about 2 pounds a week, a nice slow, steady loss.

Play with that and see what works for you. Now that you've been doing this for three weeks, see if you can get away from the book and play with the SBD to see what works for your body. Some people in the book could not eat any starch, some could not eat any fruit, or they would not lose. Some people in this forum can't eat nuts or they splurge. You need to figure what works for you. And don't dispair...this weight will come off! :cheer:

That said, Pebbles, are you willing to share info on your soy protein shakes? They sound wonderful!

pebbles396
06-07-2004, 06:25 PM
Oh that secret recipe.....I'll post on the main board.!

chick_on_the_beach
06-07-2004, 07:13 PM
You do slow down in weeks 3 and 4 and at certain times of the month you will retain water which makes it seem like you have regained some of your weight loss. I had the same problem when I started phase 2. It pays to reintroduce carbs very slowly. Perhaps add fruit once a day for a week then the following week add one starch per day in addition to your fruit. You can do phase 1 for longer (up to four weeks) and some people do a phase 1.5 which is what I have to go back to since I have stalled completely on phase 2. Also remember if you are exercising lots you will gain muscle so may not see a difference on the scales but if you take your measurements you will see your size going down.

pebbles396
06-07-2004, 07:40 PM
Oh yes......salt. My favorite - such a little devil for weight loss. I found that I cut the fat in cooking and instead used salt - so I've battled with water weight. Good point!

jenne1017
06-07-2004, 07:50 PM
Also make sure you are doing some type of excerise. That helps, believe it or not! I put on 3-4 lbs during the week of Memorial Day. And it's gone now, just as easy. I've slowed since, but the working out helps!

Natter
06-07-2004, 09:08 PM
I know I'm building muscle with all the exercise, anfd that slows down the scale results. I'm trying to pay more attention to inches now. But I agree -- I tend to fluctuate 2 pounds up or down, but on SB, it's still a slow downward trend. I figure it this way: I can stay on the Beach and be at goal in two month -- or just be two months older, period. I think I'll take the Beach ;)

kaetra
06-10-2004, 02:12 PM
I wanted to update this. I have modified Phase II to something more like Phase 1.5 as mentioned earlier. Four days later I have dropped the 2 pounds I gained and am back down to 145. Schweew, that was close.

You guys are lifesavers. I'm so grateful for this forum, you have all been so helpful and kind.

pebbles396
06-10-2004, 03:51 PM
Traci -
That's great news.

PS< I only had the chocolate once a week. I also think really high quality chocolate helps. We get 60% cocoa.

MittenNKim
06-10-2004, 04:10 PM
When I switched to phase 2, I was adding 1 carb per day. So, one half of an apple, or just barely adding in smallish portions of cereal. (I call it phase 1.5).

That's great advice, Pebb!

My question is, did you just keep adding one carb a day until you were eating one with each meal?

Kim

pebbles396
06-10-2004, 04:57 PM
Kim,
Actually I found that I developed Bread phobias - so that was really late in the game.

I started with fruit during the afternoon b/c that's when I was most stable. (late night didn't work at all).

But I found that one full week on 1.5 then basically whenever I wanted it. I started to have a bit too much cereal so I had to taper off.

I think that the book suggests just watching the scale and seeing how you feel.

I really don't mind Phase 1 stuff all that much, so I try to eat as much phase 1 as possible.

MittenNKim
06-10-2004, 05:06 PM
Kim,
Actually I found that I developed Bread phobias - so that was really late in the game.

I started with fruit during the afternoon b/c that's when I was most stable. (late night didn't work at all).

But I found that one full week on 1.5 then basically whenever I wanted it. I started to have a bit too much cereal so I had to taper off.

I think that the book suggests just watching the scale and seeing how you feel.

I really don't mind Phase 1 stuff all that much, so I try to eat as much phase 1 as possible.

Do you know what's funny? I had a Ziploc Ice Cream the other night, and I felt like I had cheated! I had an OVERWHELMING feeling of guilt, it was bad! Then I got over it. :D

Can you give me a vague idea of your Wk1.5 menu looked like on an average day? I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to be eating. I mean, I think I can handle making myself these egg-blintz things I have made for myself for breakfast, with a cup of milk for breaky... then for a snack, I could see an apple with a smear of PB... lunch, I used to eat this bland-but-healthy-meal, it's plain oatmeal (not quick oats), with cocoa and a 1/2 cup of f/f dry cottage cheese and sweetner. It doesn't taste like much but it's easy, and it gives me everything I need. Dinner, I could see myself continuing to eat grilled chicken and a variety of veggies... and then snack, still maybe a ricotta creme or a ziploc ice cream.

Does this sound reasonable for Ph1.5 or Ph2? Too much? Not enough? Wrong foods? Obviously I want to keep losing (who knows if I will have lost after 2 weeks on Ph1 -- every day I feel like I've eaten the wrong things. Too much cheese, too much fat, not enough... who knows) as I'm still pretty far from goal.

Thanks, as always. :stress:

Mel J.
06-12-2004, 10:32 AM
I am a new member. And I just want to say to Traci that is why I joined I thought it was just me having a hard time on the SB diet. I am a 140lbs and would like to lose 25lbs. I do good at 1 one but at phase 2 is when I start haveing trouble. When I start gaining the wait back I get discouraged and then it seems to be down hill from there. There are days I feel like I am just meant to be fluffy.

MittenNKim
06-12-2004, 02:05 PM
I've been measuring my waist size. It's still at 37", no change there over the week, so I had at least that to cushion the blow of the extra pounds. I would have been happier with no weight loss obviously rather than up 2 lbs!

Yeah, I do feel healthier but 1 step forward 1 step back doesn't get you any closer to goal now does it? :-(

Traci -- I feel your pain, girl. I'm in the same boat, you and I have almost identical current weights and goals (I'd like to get to 120 though).

I can't offer much in the way of my own experience, but a friend who has been on it for a bit (and who is studying nutritional sciences) did say to me that for some people, the weight loss happens in a "woosh"... you think nothing is happening, but all of a sudden, you'll wake up one day and it will really start to come off.

She made a good point -- so many people give up right away, but in a NORMAL case, all things equal, it actually takes about 8 weeks to REALLY see results. SO don't give up until after you've given it a solid two months. Then, if it hasn't worked for you, you may need to try something else.

Good luck!

pebbles396
06-12-2004, 02:35 PM
Oh sure.

Breakfast - Whey Protein Shake (recipe in the desserts section for phase 1) I'm sooo sick of eggs.

Snack - PB and celery (I have this almost every day)

Lunch - Mozzarella, tomatoes, prosuitto, artichokes heated
- 1/2 apple skin on

Salad with chicken and salsa


Snack -
Nuts or laughing cow

Dinner -
any phase 1 dinner

Dessert
Jello

So pretty much all phase one - and teeny introductions. Fruit was my first choice.

The following week I would have cereal for breakfast w/ FF milk for breakfast.