I was wondering if anyone had ever had their RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate) tested? I hvae read about it before and found out that you can go to a Bally's or sometimes at a doctor's office and get tested. It doesn't seem all that expensive ($40.00).
The article I was reading was kinda cool beacause there were women of simlar height and their RMR were pretty different. I think it would be cool to knwo exactly how many calories I burn in a day. I'm thinking that if I knew the EXACT number, would I be less likely to overindulge??
04-12-2004, 05:37 PM
i did it. about a year ago. and i have no idea what to do with it!!!! my RMR was measured at about 1900 calories.. and with my exercise schedule and what i've been eating, i should have disappeared LONG LONG Ago.
soooo i'm just not sure what the real deal is. maybe it's not accurate? maybe i'm not really here????
04-12-2004, 05:54 PM
Jiff darlin' your here!!! For some reason I didn't think that you counted calories.
I think I'll have it done, just for the fun of it. Then I can just say I have a slow metabolism!!!!
04-12-2004, 06:40 PM
hi sandi!!!! you're right, i don't count calories, but i'm still aware of them, and i LOOK at the calories and wonder whether it's worth eating, considering the amount of protein and carbs in it. is it worth the space in my tummy or not??? of course, if it's dark chocolate,... the answer is always YES YES YES!!!
04-12-2004, 07:28 PM
Hey - i thought dark chocolate was a healthfood.....something to do with vitamins and raising serotonin levels? are you telling me I am mistaken???????????? OH NO. OH NO. OH NO.
04-12-2004, 08:02 PM
As you shrink, shouldn't your metabolism go down?
04-12-2004, 08:22 PM
Hi! 'Scuz me for butting in here but I follow Jiffy around like a puppy dog, so I end up wherever she goes. :lol: (her real puppy dog weighs something like 85 pounds and likes to "sit on your lap", I'm told, but I digress).
I did the BodyGem testing and came out at 1600 calories RMR. Just like Jiff, my reaction was "I should be wasting away" -- but I'm still pretty solidly here. That number is supposed to be the calories that you would burn if you laid in bed all day. You have to add to that the calories you burn just walking around and your exercise calories to figure out what your maintenance level theoretically is. Supposedly I should be able to eat well over 2000 calories a day and maintain, given my level of exercise (pretty intense). In reality, I eat about 1400-1500 calories a day in order to maintain. :?:
Jessica's right -- the more you weigh, the higher your RMR will be. That's why you have to drop calories as you drop pounds in order to keep losing -- it takes fewer calories to sustain a smaller body.
But all that being said, I'd still go for it, Sandi. It's an interesting piece of information and you may be able to play with it and get it to work for you. :)
PS -- how's the gym going?
04-13-2004, 12:36 AM
Gym - where? what gym? Oh....you mean the YMCA that I joined! I remember now :lol: It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I was loving the gym. Every minute of it. Then I got sick and was out for 4 weeks and then I have been back, but it's not the same. I come late, so I only have time for my cardio, and I blow it off every chance I get. My former motivation is gone and I can't seem to find it anywhere!! I know that cardio and weights are 50% of the success that I seek, but I can't seem to find my get up and go (evidently, it got up and went!) :dunno:
Any wisdom you can share Meg? It would be greatly appreciated. Give it to me girl...I can take it.
04-13-2004, 11:50 AM
think the nike ads, sandi.. JUST DO IT!!!! the hardest part is getting started. i also had a 3-week layoff due to the pneumonia. and it WAS hard to go back, and i whined and complained THE ENTIRE TIME I WAS LIFTING!!!! but i did it anyway. one thing that helped was a couple of back-to-back appts with the trainer. he smiled and listened <sort of> and told me that the important thing was that i was DOING it and he didn't really care that i had a bad attitude.
and then he added more weight!!! he knows that the harder i have to work, the quieter i get...
soooo JUST DO IT. bad attitude and all.
04-13-2004, 01:00 PM
Monday - the 19th - I am scheduled for my test! This should be fun!!!!
04-13-2004, 01:55 PM
meg... come on, darlin.. time to check in on the Skinny Daily Post!!! juju is a wonderfully wise woman who's lost more than 100 pounds and has kept it off for quite awhile. she is ALWAYS an inspiration...
and sandi... we'll be waiting to hear what your RMR is. and while you're there, would you ask them what to do with this information??? if meg and i have the same experience [which REALLY surprises me since if SHE can't eat even up to her RMR without gaining weight], there's gotta be a something that we're missing here.
04-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Cool, Sandi! Weíll be really interested in the results. Hopefully whoever gives you the test will put the number into some kind of perspective for you.
About the gym and all Ö it happens to all of us, like Jiff said. Weíre going along great and then life happens and boom! we fall right back into all those bad old habits and routines. Itís scary how close to the surface all the old habits and ways of coping lie ó and they have a nasty way of popping back into our lives as soon as we start to get complacent. For me, itís been almost two years that Iíve had the weight off and I still want to revert right back to being an emotional binge eater when something goes wrong or I get stressed. Sigh. I guess the great lesson here is that weíre never cured; we only learn how to cope with all the habits and behaviors that got us heavy in the first place.
Anyway, how to get back to the gym? Well, Jiffís right ó bottom line is that you just have to do it. But something that helps me when Iím struggling ó like having a really tough food day ó is to make a commitment to someone else. It would be nice if I could make a commitment to myself and have that work, but I know myself too well. I have a tendency to play little games with myself: one wonít hurt, you deserve it, you can start again tomorrow Ö. yadda yadda Ö that evil little voice that goes through my head.
So what I do is make myself accountable to someone else; someone I really donít want to mess up in front of. For example, Iíll call DH at work and say that they are 13 chocolate chip cookies in the freezer calling my name and that I want him to count every last one when he gets home. Or Iíll email a buddy and tell her what Iím going to eat for the day. Or Iíll post at LWL and say that itís after dinner and Iíve got the munchies but Iím not going to give in. And whenever the little :devil: voice tempts me, I think about how Iím going to report back to whomever and how I donít want to admit defeat. Kind of like: 'failure is not an option'?
Now you can see that my little :devil: s are all foodĖrelated. I know your :devil: is getting to the gym but maybe the same thing would work for you. How about if you make a commitment ó to DH or a friend or here ó that youíll go to the gym tomorrow and this is what youíll do? And then come back and report?
Making appointments with a trainer is a terrific way to make a commitment to someone else, but unfortunately itís not possible for everyone. For me, though, thatís probably what made this whole weight-loss thing work. I joined a gym on a whim with DD and immediately had a panic attack when I realized how alien it was to my couch-potato self. So I signed up for five weeks with one of the trainers and told him that I would do everything that he told me to do for five weeks, no questions asked. The fact that I had appointments with him got me there and thatís how I learned about lifting weights and cardio and a totally different way to eat. I doubt that I ever would have gone on my own; I was way too intimidated by the machines and the weights. Not to mention way too intimidated by weighing 257 pounds and imagining (incorrectly, as it turns out) that everyone was staring at me (specifically, my 57Ē butt :lol: ).
It took me a long time to get hooked on exercise ó maybe about six months? It wasnít instantaneous by any means ó in fact, I thought I was going to die at first. :D But I stuck it out and slowly it dawned on me that I ALWAYS felt better when I walked out of the gym than when I walked in. That exercise really WAS a de-stressor. That it gave me tons of energy. And that it was cool to be a mom with muscles! And of course, I loved the results. :D Doing cardio burned the fat and building muscle revved up my metabolism and made things look tight and toned as the weight came off. Iím not going to kid you and say that exercise is easy for us at first, but if you stick with it, the pay-off is huge. I know ó beyond the shadow of a doubt ó that I would not have lost (and kept off) 122 pounds without exercise being an integral part of every day of my life.
So what Iím saying (in my usual long winded way), Sandi, is that you almost have to go on faith at first with exercise (and weight-loss in general). Karen (MrsJim) likened losing 100+ pounds to moving a mountain with a teaspoon and a cup. When you look a the big picture, it seems impossible. The only way to tackle that mountain is to break it down and do it one day at a time. Just make a commitment to exercise, one day at a time. Plan your food for one day. Donít worry about tomorrow or six months from now. Every one of us can do it for JUST ONE DAY.
How about if you plan your exercise for tomorrow, come here and post about it, DO IT, and then come back and tell us about it?
04-13-2004, 02:56 PM
04-13-2004, 04:03 PM
Meg - as usual you are right. A commitment hugh??
Ok, gym day isn't until Thursday, so how about a 20 minute exercise commitement for tomorrow? Some kind of cardio for at least 20 min.
There I've said it, now I WILL do it!!
04-13-2004, 04:13 PM
OK, Sandi, it's a deal!
Twenty minutes of cardio tomorrow sounds perfect. :tread:
If that little :devil: in your head tries to talk you out of it, you tell it that you have a whole big fan club :cheer: that's going to be waiting for you to report back and tell us that you did it!
04-13-2004, 05:50 PM
Wow! Meg & Jiffy - you guys are such great motivators!!! I read your posts on the "Maintainers" forum and I am inspired by your success.....just "prepping" myself for the day when I can join you there! Did you ladies even consider whether it was possible to loose 280+ & 120+ pounds when you started??? I love the teaspoon/mountain analogy! Your posts remind me that I am not looking to "cure" myself by loosing weight....I am looking to adopt a healthy lifestyle that I can maintain in the long term. With any luck I'll be able to learn the patterns that have made you both so successful. It's a good reminder that you have to remain vigilant, even when you've lost the weight.
Sandi, I'll join the commitment with you....I fell off the "healthy" food horse this weekend. Shall I commit to eat within my points range & journal tomorrow and Thursday and we can compare notes on Friday?? Maybe we could make this a post for people to join a "mini-challenge" if they need a small kick?
04-13-2004, 07:58 PM
loosingit... i'll be ECSTATIC to weight 180 something. or anything under 200 for that matter!!! when i started this, i had hoped i'd manage under 250 as a realistic goal... i never dreamed i'd get this far. and it was literally one day at a time. that was absolutely all i could focus on. just like meg said!!!! <she's so smart!!!!>
and to tell you the truth, i looked at this thread right now because it's gym night for me and I DON'T WANT TO GO!!!!! but i will. and i'll wear a t shirt i haven't been able to wear for about 16 years. but i still don't want to go. i want to go home and make some tea and have a hot shower and get into my jammies and do my taxes and go to bed.
but instead i'll go to the gym...
whine whine whine. where's the cheese???
and SANDI: after you've done your 20 minutes tomorrow, would you mind terribly coming up to wls and telling everyone that you did it?? some folks there need a little <ahem> inspiration.
love you all/..
04-13-2004, 10:18 PM
Kris! What a huge success story you are yourself! :high: You donít need to prep yourself to be at the Maintainers Forum ó you should be there now! Itís not just for people at their goal weights ó itís for anyone getting close to or even just wondering about life after goal. Youíre so smart to be thinking about it now and it sounds like youíre not as naÔve as I was about reaching goal. I thought all my eating problems would be over and it would be oh so easy to maintain my weight. :dizzy: Boy, was I wrong; for me at least, losing the weight was the easy part. Maintenance is hard and takes as much thought and planning as it did to lose the weight. But itís totally worth it, of course! :D
Did I think that I could ever lose 122 pounds? Absolutely not. I had been fat my whole life and on diets my whole life. I failed a thousand times. On June 1, 2001, I walked into that gym (wearing the pants in my avatar picture) to meet with my trainer for the first time and he asked me what weight I wanted as my goal. I very hesitantly asked him if he thought I could get to 160 pounds, the least I had ever weighed in my adult life (for about three seconds :lol: ). With total confidence he looked at me and told me to write down in my journal: lose 97 pounds. I wrote it down but remember sitting there and not believing for a second that it could happen.
We set a series of small goals and checked them off as we reached them. Some were weight goals, some were fitness goals (do a real pushup), some were body fat %, some were funny goals (weigh less than he did!). One of the biggies (and Iím sure you remember this) was breaking through to 199. :) Iíve still got that list, all checked off.
I lost those 97 pounds in about nine months and never even gave a thought to stopping at 160 because by then I knew that I could go all the way and get to a normal, healthy weight. So I kept going until I reached 135 (about 16% body fat) ó it took me about 11 1/2 months. Since then, for the last (almost) two years, Iíve stayed in a five pound range around 135.
So I like to say that, even though I failed a thousand times, I got back up and tried a thousand and one, and that last time is the one that worked. ;)
04-14-2004, 04:22 AM
Jiff has lost my entire body weight!!!
04-14-2004, 05:29 AM
OK guys. I'm new here, and I am already relying on you people for inspiration, motivation and support! I am also quite new to this exercise thing - and one of the things I now find totally amazing is how much I enjoy it, but only if its 'right' for me. Can't stand all the cardio machines at the gym (too boring), but I am blissfully happy in the swimming pool......The main thing that I have learned is
a) to make a 'minimum' commitment (at the moment mine is 30 mins cardio, 7 days a week, plus 4 Pilates classes a week,but I built that up from practically zero)
b) whatever I feel, to 'just do it', even if I do it slowly, or in small bits, because I'm feeling tired
c) go for variety when I'm beginning to feel bored
d) keep reminding myself how far I have come - I find the fitness/energy benefits much more inspiring than the s-l-o-w weight loss.
04-14-2004, 12:14 PM
scares ya, doesn't it SAPF!!!???? scared me, too!!!!! some folks, after they pick their jaws up off the floor comment that i've lost at least 2 people... one man said that i've lost an entire family!!!!!
eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww. and by the way, there's a recent pic of me in the maintainer's forum in the pictures. i still feel like i don't quite belong there yet, but they let me stay anyway...
and artist... you have LEARNED SO MUCH SO FAST!!!! i'm so impressed!!!!! you go!!!!!
04-14-2004, 12:51 PM
:blush: Thanks for the encouraging words ladies...
It's much easier to see success in others than in yourself isn't it?? Guess that is what 3FC is about - finding people you can identify with and cheering them on....it's sort of like being able to step back and look at yourself with some objectivity (without all of the "judging" of ourselves). Does this make any sense??? Other people on the site lend you their "eyes"....and let you see your success from outside of yourself. Kinda remind you to pat yourself on the back for what you have accomplished. Like Jillegal was mentioning in another post - it is so easy to "beat" ourselves up. Much simpler to be supportive of others than ourselves some times!
Hey ARTIST - in reading your posts....I can tell....you will be successful. You seem to have really thought it all through - long term exercise & eating habits. Congrats to you!
Jiffy - hope that you got your tea and jammies after the gym last night! ;)
04-14-2004, 01:56 PM
I just wanted to thank each of you for so generously sharing your experiences, your wisdom, and your support. I've found this thread in particular so meaningful and motivating and......important. My heartfelt thanks to each of you for your inspiration and caring. It means so much. I'm on track, I'm not faltering (yet,) I think I'm doing this the right way and am reestablishing healthy behaviors which will be sustainable (and enjoyable!) for the rest of my life. And yet. *insert pregnant pause here* While I'm sure I can do it, reading your words and hearing your stories goes a long way to helping me remain convinced that I will do it.
Thank you. :goodvibes:
04-14-2004, 08:21 PM
Meg - I love the story about the check list. I've started training for this crazy half-ironman and there are some days when I just want to give up because it's HARD. This week, I tried something new. I bought a little red binder and filled it with paper and I wrote: WEEK ONE at the top and I listed a bunch of goals for this week. It feels so darn good to check those off. Now, I'm inspired. I may have to have a long term goal list. Thanks Babe-alicious Meg!
04-14-2004, 08:30 PM
Jessica -- I love little checklists! For everything! It's SO kindergarten of me that I feel like I should do them in crayon. :o I have weekly checklists, daily checklists, goals .... I came up with ten behaviors that make every day a good day (diet and exercise-wise) and got on Publisher and made a little table that I put in my binder ... and I love checking off the little boxes at the end of the day. It's so goofy but I get that same feeling of accomplishment that you talk about when I can check them off.
:dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :lol:
04-14-2004, 11:56 PM
I really want to know how this goes.... I would love to know what my metabolic rate is... Very interesting.. Be sure to post as soon as you know!
04-15-2004, 06:10 AM
Jiffy/Kris - thanks for your kind words of support, guys....its a whole new world for me, the Land of Exercise! Some days I have crazy ideas about some challenges I'd like to take on - in the very dim and distant future - my particular fantasies at the moment are water-skiing and surfing!!! Maybe I just want to be a beach-bum, huh?????
04-15-2004, 11:46 AM
claire.. may i make a bold suggestion???? instead of waiting for the 'very diim and distant future,' what about TODAY????? what do you need to do in order to go water skiing? strengthen your legs? work on that. strengthen your arms so you can hold on tight? work on that. learn how to do it? go find some lessons.
the biggest thing i've learned over the past few years is to NOT WAIT to do something. too much time wasted. too much fun gone by. life is NOW.