WW Clubs and Groups - wednesday 28 march 2001

here's the new thread, can't stay on long as extra busy and computer keeps dying. also looks like someone (security?) has been trying to log onto my machine overnight. dodgy. i really hope my poor wee computer hasn't been forced to download nasty piccies for some sad man. i really hope he didn't sit in my chair. eurgh!

Yes, she is here, the PMS monster who gets snappy with her mom on the phone (my mom was nagging me, but I usually just bare with it and not snap back), who's been craving all these high points snacks (right now, garlic bread covered in cheese and yes it is 6am, luckily I have no cheese or garlic bread, because if I did I would be pigging out on it) and who in general has been really grumpy for the past 24 hours. She also broke out badly and realized she left her concealer/face powder at her parents house last time she went. Oh well, hopefully she'll disappear soon (I am usually not this bad, honestly).

Casey: Good Luck at WI, I sadly am not looking forward to mine. But take care!

Kirsty: that is really creepy. Could you set up some more passwords or something on your cpu? Good Luck.


Take Care!

Ali

Hello,

Kirsty I wouldn't like that at all. Hopefully some measures can be taken to prevent that from happening again!

My question for the group is: eggs. Like them? I am totally on an egg kick. They really fill me up in the morning. 2 poached on LF bread is great for 5 points, and I know I won't eat again until lunch! I also realized through "the Right Mix" books that I'm way short on protein, so it helps there as well. Do you guys eat eggs, or are you worried about cholesterol and the like?

Ali 5 weeks away from Ottawa, eh? That's great. What area will you be living in? Close to school? Hope your room mate is nice.

Bellea time limit sounds good. I just worry about the rollercoaster ride you've been on. I've been lurking on this board since August and it seems you have yet to get a straight answer from this guy. The ex is a perennial issue, so are his friends and so is the way he acts with you "come here/go away". At the end of the day, it's just important that you find your own peace. Good luck!

Have a good one, ladies.

Girlsgirlsgirlsgirlsgirlsgirls!!!!! I’m so incredibly proud of myself! Last night I turned down PIZZA!! I came home, at a sensible dinner before going to my show and I was able to turn down Papa Murphy’s take and bake pizza. It looked sooooo good. I could have eaten just a little piece, but NO! I stayed strong :D The worst I did was drink root beer with them. Sorry, this was just a huge deal to me for some reason. I ended up at 23 points for the day! Woohoo!

I thought it was strange that Jen brought up pets again b/c I have a story for you guys this morning. I went into our bedroom where my husband was already sleeping and picked up my favorite flannel pajamas on the bed (it’s been snowing so I dug them out the other day). It felt like the shorts were a little wet. Well, my darling puppy (I say this dripping with sarcasm) decided he wanted to chew on mom’s shorts. There’s a nice big half moon shape chewed out of them. I was furious! I’m going to have to revamp my entire house at this point b/c he is getting worse on the chewing. I yelled at him and he made me feel totally guilty b/c he was hanging his head, giving me puppy dog eyes, the whole bit. I’m in such big trouble when I have kids *sigh*

Suzanne: I don’t like pre-nuptials either. I’m with you that it’s like planning to get divorced. I can see where he is coming from on the house. If he bought it though before you are married and it’s in his name and it stays that way, would it be an issue in the case of divorce anyway? I don’t know how that works. I believe though that he needs to trust you enough before he marries you. I think we all have money issues in our marriages.

Belle: Those pet names!!!

Lola: I love eggs. It’s about time to get those Easter Eggs done. Then I bring them to work for hard boiled lunch treats. Hey, it’s only 2 points! And scrambled eggs with meat and cheese in them? Yumm! Don’t get that very often thought. I also love to put egg on my salad.

Oh no, getting a headache again. Must go take something.

ok, so that's a bit of an exaggeration. i've just seen a job advert looking for broadcast meteorologists or broadcast assistants. i reckon i'd make an excellent weather girl so i've asked for the application form....watch this space!
;)

kirsty
ps lolly - tell no one! i might not even fill out the form if it's too long/hard/boring!

Good morning ladies!

Hope everyone is having a good morning. I read this last night and felt it was way important to share.

It's about losing muscle mass when you are losing weight.

for every pound you lose, 3/4 of that pound is fat, and 1/4 of that pound is muscle. So if you lose 20 pounds, you've lost 15 opunds of fat and 5 pounds of muscle.

And muscle burns more calories than fat. Your body burns 11 calories an hour for every pound of muscle you have, but only 2 calories an hour for every pound of fat.

I hope I don't sound like a book, it's jsut when I read that I was like "Wow! Good to know!" and I wanted to share.

I'll definately add stregth training into my workouts.

I asked the fitness consulatant at my gym about that and she said it was right on. She also said that when machines are calculating how many calories you are burning while working out, they assume 20% body fat. Well, I have 41% body fat... So when the machine says I'm buring 400 calories... I'm really not.

Anyway, I thought it was good info and I'll definately start weight training.

Lisa

Suzanne I meant to give you my opinion on pre-nups. I am just about to become a lawyer, so I may be biased ;). I don't mind them. I think most pre-nups go along the lines of "what was mine before will be mine, what was yours before will be yours, what we accumulate together is ours". Sounds fine to me. It's not an issue unless there is a divorce, and then it saves the heart-wrenching "counting spoons" process. What I think is most important, though, is that couples have a thorough conversation about money before they get married. I think money break up more marriages than anything else, so you'll be better off if you sort through this stuff now. To me, marriage is more than the romance. (Although the romance is the best part! :) ) It's about becoming part of a team... an entity larger than either of the players. This team is in charge of providing support for each other; maybe becoming parents and creating children with values and strength; and being fully aware and responsible for the financial future of the family. My advice is explore this option. If you decide not to go down the pre-nup road, it will be because both you and the love of your life have made an informed decision.

Hi everyone... I am doing OK Today! I did my aerobic and stretching last night (For the SELF Challenge!). I am on track. Gonna make that 10 pounder! I am tired of my pre-pregnancy clothes not fitting. I look horrid because I have to scrape together clothes that fit. I did buy a couple dresses (from that bag of a lady!!) but I don't feel like wearing them everyday! UGhhh.. I can do this!!

BRENDA.... oh you poor thing. My Sadie still chews all the time. It is a horrid thing, but certain breeds just do it more. We buy her lots of chew toys. The Kong toys are great. Also, don't buy rawhide and hoofs, etc. They are VERY bad for dogs. Rawhide is NOT digested in there system and will actually expand when they swallow it. My vet says they get dogs in all the time with bloated digestive systems that are clogged with rawhide. Just a warning, it is very dangerous. We buy the Booda Velvets (which get messy sometimes) and the Nylabones. Both of these are natural. Now taht Sadie has all her adult teeth, we mostly get the nylabones because she chews HARD. She can chew up a big boods velvet in a couple hours. She still steals our socks and chews them, but we are working on that. Good Luck. It is a tough thing to control. But lots of chew toys is a good thing!!! If you have any questions, just ask... I also have a degree in Animal Science and would be happy to share my knowledge (this little I have :D ) Oh and Papa Murphys is my weakness....actually all pizza is!! :spin:

Kirsty.... ohhhhh, tell us more about the weather girl job when you apply!! Sounds thrilling!! Oh and I hope the secruity guy wasn't scanky. How gross if he did sit in your chair! Get the Lysol out!! ;)

Tilley... Thanks for the info. I guess that is why exercise is so very important!!

Well, I better skidaddle back to work! Tootles

Is it me or is this week creeping by....

Well, last night I rented the contender with b/f, had dinner made and all planned out then he cracked out the M&m's.....now, I just got TOM yesterday and I ate the whole thing. I am so disappointed in myself :(! But, I shall move on, its PMS after all.

Well, last night was pretty good with b/f. Lola, you make a good point about no straight answers, and the ex still being somewhat of an issue.....it does make me wonder, the whole thing. But then on the other hand, he has these really tender moments and - ARGH - its just plain confusing. At any rate, he is off on feild trips tomorrow and Friday and I have to pack so I won't see him until Friday night. So,that's good. Some time off.

OOPS just got busted by boss, shitty!! Oh well, will have to look very diligent today now!

Kirsty - I wanted tobe a weather girl when I was younger - but I always thought I was too fat so never went for it. I sort of regret it. After all, if Oprah can do it, so can anyone. That would be very cool - not that I could see you over here...but still.

Ali - I am with you on the PMS. Strenght in numbers!!

Bren - 23 points for hte day?! Holy smokes!! Well done. I, on the other hand, gave in to the chocolate monster.

Lisa - I was thinking of buying some free weights for home - I never seem to get to the gym as much as I want and now I live 25 min from the gym - but I have a bike and videos and lots of places towalk at home - so I thought I'd add some free weights and get a lower body strenght video. I actually heard the cindy crawford one was really good for that (I know, its lame). I think it makes a difference too in howyou look when you are more firm.

Anyhoo, I should mosey - hello to Steph, Casey, Lolly, Kim (on vacation?), Emily, Jen, Trish, Suzanne, Kristin, Becky, and the whole herd. We are getting so huge now!!

Belle

OK-I've been hesitant about posting today but I feel the need to confess about how badly I did yesterday:(I started with good intentions of drinking water and exersizing-I did drink the water...but after getting off of a thirty hour work shift with mininal sleep I spent the afternoon apt hunting and in the process lost my cell phone!!! So I wound up not cooking a nutritious dinner but going out -I had 1/2 a broiled catfish and about 1/3 a cup of potatoes but a piece of cornbread and god knows how many tortilla chips as well as a drink. now i only had about 9 points left going in to that dinner, so I am now pretty annoyed at myself. I was tempted to skip weigh in this week but I am going to go...not sure to which meeting yet...
On a brighter note-my cell phone was found, and I am going to exersize at lunchtime today!!!! So far I am at 6 points for the day-If I stay OP all day I think I may treat myself and make some seafood fra diavolo tonight for dinner...mmmm-thanks for being a confession board guys-I know lal of you can relate to stress eating...oh i forgot to mention that as soon as I realized I lost my cell phone I promptly ate 2 thin mints!!!:( But they tasted good...Lori

Only Wednesday. Pooh!

I was very good yesterday OP. My hubby brought home Cadberry Cream Eggs yesterday for a little treat. I had enough points for one (he brought me two) but not for two...that would put me one point over. so I only had one. It was yummy and I saved the second for today. I am so proud of myself.

On the bad side, I did not make it to the gym this morning. It was so cute, I was getting up at 5:20 but hubby wanted to stay in bed and cuddle. So I did. I will have to go tonight after my afterwork meeting and make sure I make my weight training class on Friday!

Well, I started my temp reading this morning. It was so strange, I was dreaming about it all night. One little dot on my chart.

Lisa: great info on the fat/muscle thing. I will have to make sure I don't keep missing my weight training class.

Kirsty: It would be just like Bridget Jones (only not so nuratoic) from publishing to TV. How great! How were drinks last night. YOu know, I just wanted to tell you what a great job you are doing with maintanence. YOu really are an insperation...to be able to work good food and drink into your plan and still maintain your weight so well. Good job! That is a hard thing for many people to do...me included.

Brenda: That is so great about the pizza. It is such a hard thing to take a pass on. Oh, you know, I thnk I like Diet Dr Pepper because is reminds me of root beer and diet coke cross. I do love it so much!!! Oh, I also can not get mad at my little cutie dog. She can be such a grump to me...but when I get mad at her she just looks at me like, "What? What I do? Hey, look, I am cute!" and I just smushy hug her to death. She hates that. Ginger wa snever a chewer, but when we first got her and she was mad she would pee on your stuff. It is good she has not done that in years or cute or not she would be in BIG TROUBLE! Hope your headache is better.

Lola: I also LOVE eggs. I am not worried about calesteral as I read it was the good kind in the eggs and I think most of the nutrition is in the yoke. However, sometimes if I am low on points I will use one entire egg and one white or something. Hubby and I eat eggs a lot for dinner. They are a great way to use up the little bits of things you ahve leftover. Like dump that blop of spegetti sauce that is left on them or that extra spoonful of veggies that are leftover from yesterday. I also found I was not getting enough protein in my diet.

Ali: I have been having PMS for like a week and 1/2. Boy, that garlic bread sure does sound good. Good thing I also have none in sight. I did have the leftover cadberry cream egg for breakfast as I typed this. Maybe not as nutritious as my usual oatmeal, but oh so satisfying!

Belle: I think a timeframe is a good thing to keep in mind. Relationships are hard work. I also think men in our generation can be very intimidated my their emotions and commitment. They may have been hurt themselves and most have seen either their parents or friends etc parents divorce. I think it has made many of our generation very protective of their feelings. You were right to tell him where you were coming from. Communication is key to a healthy relationship.

Suzanne: I guess this goes with the pre-nup thing as well. I would also sit with a minister or counselor and talk about these issues. I bet there is more there than just money (but money is a big issue to work out in a relationship). On the property issue going into a marriage, states differ on their rules I think. But once again, I would talk about it and see what happens.

Ok, I need to get going to work. I will talk with you all soon.

trish
193.2/187/155
5'10"

For all that were posting when I was:

Lori: don't be hesitant to use us as the confesional. We have all messed-up and really can relate. I also think it is good to go to weigh in on bad weeks. It helps me to put the week behind me and get back on track. Plus, I need another journal or I will stay off track. So go to the meeting! Great job on working out today!!!

Belle: How was the Contender? My week is creeping too. And don't worry about the M&M's. Stupid PMS.

Jen: I am in the same boat. None of me old clothes fit but a few right now. They are all so tihgt in the behind! So I put things together. However, I am not getting any bigger clothes, so I guess if I want to not be naked at work I had better stay on program and get this weight off. My hubby was so rude (he did not mean to be, but you know men) I was complaining about nothing fitting due to my slightly bigger size right now and he went, "Well, you have a ton of things in that closet. You must have clothes in every size, something should fit!" Well, thank you! We will get back into our old stuff. We can do it!

Lola: What kind of law are you thinking about practecing when you graduate?

Ok, really must work now.

trish

Belle... I have a little questions for you if you don't mind. Since you are stressing about your bf's ex. Why did they break up and was it on good terms and that is why they still talk?? I guess I am just wondering what the circumstances were prior to him dating you. Maybe that will shed some light on the your problems with the relationship.

Oh Trish... we posted at the same time. We are exactly in the same boat. I DON'T want to wear my huge old ugly tent clothes, I have a few. BUT, as my hubby said, I am sick of you wearing those knit pants all the time. They are left over from my early PG when my belly started to expand. YUP, I look aweful in my clothes and I hate it. Before getting PG I had lost 30 pounds and was getting all this confidence and started buying really cute clothes is all these great smaller sizes. NOTHING FITS NOW. But, I have a new light on this and I KNOW WE CAN DO IT! If you want I will nag you about it to keep on track.... and feel free to nag me back!! :D

Lola: I meet the potential roomate this weekend. The apartment is in centretown so I am roughly halfway between Algonquin and Downtown. BTW where did you go to Law School (McGill, Ottawa?)? I am doing a Law Clerk course for the next two years, but I am thinking about one day actually going to Law School (I want to work for a while first and what not, the Law Clerk thing though is closer to what I want to do now).

Trish: I've got to ask, how many points are Cadbury Cream Eggs? I love those things and am planning to have at least one on Easter Day.

Belle: solidarity with PMS.... My mom annoyed me again when I talked to her, I was telling her about my presentation and she was like "how can you discuss this without talking about that", grrrrr... It's my research, not hers (and she's not even a history major or ever has been) and she doesn't understand what angle I am using (my seminar is on Canadian Vs American policy on Cuba From the Revolution to Helms-Burton).

Jen: mmmmmmmm Pizza, something else to crave! We give our oversized doggie Nylabones as well, he loves them. He also has his favorite toys, but overall he's been very good about not chewing (our other two dogs on the other hand were terrible when they were puppies)

Kirsty: I'd love to be a weather girl too:)

Brenda: Good for you on the Pizza, that rocks:)


I have a presentation this afternoon, wish me luck!

Take Care!

Ali

I hate the 5 day work week.....I vote for a 4 day !


Hello to everyone ! Boy has this group grown !


well, It's been crazy at work. 4/1 is the doom day..no more $$$ I haven't talked about it much....but I might be losing my job.

I have mixed feelings...part of me is stressed...part of me looks forward to it....go figure.

b/f got a new job ! I'm so excited...he has been so moody the last couple months because he was not happy...it really affected me...I fed off that negative energy...anyone else that way ? it's based in Canada...so he will have to go to Ottawa for 2 weeks...if I lose my job...I'm going with him...who's close ? Maybe we can meet up :-)

so WI is tonight....I feel pretty good about the last week...if I show a gain...I don't what I will do !

I also signed up for some personal training sessions at my gym. Tonight is the first one...I'm looking forward to it...

have a great day....talk to you all soon

jules

Hey Jen. Well, they dated for one year in University and then the next year she went to T.O for 16 months. they decided to keep the "long distance" thing, but he wasn't happy with it. So when she came home, he said he didn't know if it would work now, he wasn't happy with that. They dated for another half a year and then he had enough....you see, she is East Indian, and he is a very white red-head. Her family did not approve and she never ever told them they were dating. He and the ex argued a lot, starting just before they went to Toronto. She has a very low self esteem and that bothered him. She needed to hear that she was pretty a lot and put herself down alot. She also had jealousy issues that got worse when they were apart.

He still can't understand why she is torn btw being Indian or being Canadian, but its a huge cultural difference.

And in his words (long before we were dating) he just realized he didn't have much fun with her, she didn't like any of the same things he did, and he just didn't think they were meant for eachother.

She didn't feel the same way, she thought he was the one, and wrote him long letters (which I have read) about how they were both getting old (25 is old?) and soon she'd be fat and he'd be bald and no one would want them so they may as well get back together.....its weird. She always refers to her "nina - insecurities" about herself. She doesn' t have many friends. Well, According to my b/f, she had no friends at all in university and so she made him her sole friend. She was angry with her family, so she wouldnt even relate with them. ANd she would always sulk about why no oneliked her and why she had no friends. She wasn't very outgoing either.

She is smart though, a engineer and just became manager at 27, so she must have that going for her, and she is thin and pretty. but personality maybe is a bit lacking......her letters were very boring - one was about her thoughts on global warming, I kid you not.

Anyway, he broke up with her, and got a job in a different city, went there for a couple months, quit his job, came back and lived with her, without dating. They did have sex though, and he regrets that, cuz he felt he was leading her to believe that he would take her back, and he didn't think they were meant to be. So, realizing he couldn't live with her, he took a job in Calgary in March 1999. In June 1999, she came to visit and they had sex again. Then, I met him in Aug 1999. And in Sept 1999 he went back home again, had sex with her again. Then in March 2000, we were really good friends by this time, he went home again and had sex again, and this time, he wasn't sure why he did it, and felt really bad cuz her hopes were up again. Then our relationship started growing, I broke up with my ex right about the same time, and in early August, she decided she couldn't talk to him anymore to try and get over him, she felt that he might date me b/c we were together so much, he said he didn't know....I didn't know any of this at the time.

Then Aug 24 we started dating. He told me he wasn't going to tell her right away b/c she was emotionally stressed out about him. I wasn't too happy about that, I told my ex right away. Then in Sept she started calling again, and I asked if he told her and he said he did, aboutthe end of Sept.

He went home in December for 2.5 weeks (it was **** for me!!!) and she was there too - I knew when he saw her, she spend his b-day with him, I was choked. But, he called me every day except one, which was nice.

Anyway, while there she asked if they were still friends since they didnt' talk as much since he dated me. ANd he said yes, but his time is being taken up by me. And she said that he seemed happy since he'd been with me so I must be good for him.

Adn that is the last time they have seen eachother. But she calls still. The past month, not as much. And she called on the weekend, as you know, and he kept mentioningme and only talked about work.

He said that when he mentioned a job in another city and said that is the only complicaiton to our relationship, she said that maybe I would go with. Who knows, this is just what he tells me she says.

Well, that is about all I know. This is long, I know, but now you all know the whole thing with her, why it has made me feel so insecure......every time they saw eachother before we were dating, they had sex. So it does worry me...... I know he still finds her attractive but maintains that they are just friends, and he says even if she lived here he would not date her, with or without me. But that he would choose me over her to date any day and once he said I was the best g/f he has ever had. So that must be good!?

Any thoughts?

Belle

Jules Ottawa is the hot place to be! I live here and Ali is moving here!
Ali I live right around centretown myself. I'm near Chinatown, and I love it. I went to McGill for law. We'll have to meet when you come... maybe you could even attend one of my WW meetings! :)
Trish I have finished law school, but in Ontario you have to be an apprentice for a year before you can write your bar exams... that's what I'm doing now. I believe my furture to be in civil litigation.
Cabury creme eggs are delish! Confession: I even love those huge Laura Secord creme eggs.

Jen: nag, nag nag away. I sure could use it. I have these really cute pants that I LOVE for spring/summer. They are just a little (but uncomfortable) tight right now. I love them when they are BIG on me. So urbad. Anyway, I really want them to fit for spring/summer. Your help would be much appreciate!

Ali: Actually, the eggs are not that bad. According to Dotti, the regular kind are 4pts and the double fudge kind are 4.5. I eat them really slowly and lick out the middle (sick, i know, but they last really long that way). My hubby eats them in like 2 bites. Yikes! I have asked my mom to not send any candy for my easter basket (she still sends hubby and me an easter basket and I send them one.)

hey, has anyone baked with a room full of kids? This weekend I have to bake reserection cookies with the sunday school kids. I am going to try them out tomorrow night and see how they go (then I am going to drop the samples off at the church office as I AM NOT going to eat them!). I was jsut worried about that many kids age 3-13 baking in one small church space. Maybe I will bring some samples to the class just in case they don't work out and are not able to eat for treat. Any thoughts? I don't bake much...so a bit nervous.

Trish

Hi Everyone :) Thank you for the get well wishes... I'm still sick but going to drive home to NY anyways. My friends keep telling me I should go to the doctor... ugh, I hate doctors! Anyways...


Belle...the time limit seems like a good idea. You've been agonizing over this guy for ages now...he may just not be the right one for you. I know it's hard to think that tho. On Saturday a good friend of mine got to meet my "net guy" and she thinks that we're uncannily matched for each other. It's sort of strange to have someone else say that looking in on my relationship with him. Tho... we're supposedly still just close friends. He has a lot of things to work thru yet and I don't think he's ready to move from that safety zone of just friends. We shall see tho. Just thought of that with your story Belle...what do your friends say? Sometimes outsiders really can see things clearer. Do they think you need to move on?

Ali...your PMS monster story made me laugh! LOL I hope you're feeling better...

Hope you are all having a nice day :) I'm off to start driving home... I started writing this hours ago but got kinda sidetracked lol.

I wanted to add this:

I know how they got together, and this bugs me. He had a class with her and thought she was hot so he pursued her for the semester and then got together with her. It was a mainly a physical attraction in the beginning nad they were both in engineering so they had that in common.

But with him and me, I was dating and he was still in a messed op sort of relationship with her and we were friends, and although he says he always thought I was pretty, there was no animal magnetism thing. One day in May, 2000, we were bowling late and I came to his place and we snuggled on the couch, and he told me after we were dating, that he wanted to kiss me but didn't think I really had broken up with my b/f.

Anyway, how we got together, is: from May - August we were spending more an more time jsut he and I , and mostly it was b/c our other frineds never came with and it just endedup the 2 of us until we just didn't bother inviting anyone else along. Then one night we went to our buddies for a BBQ and after we ended up "getting together". So, there was nothing terribly romantic about it....it just happened. b/f says it would have happened no matter what, it was inevitable.

I don't know, I sort of wish he WANTED me, you know? Pursued a bit. ANd saying I was an attractive gil, well, that isnt' what I mean. Cuz he WANTED her. With me, we just sort of happened. You know??

Belle

WOW! You all have been postin' queens! I won't lie, I cannot post to everyone, but I did read all of them!

A big "Hi'! to you all!

Just a couple comments (I hope no one is offended, I didn't post to you personally, just don't have the time today!!)

Trish ~ I am very happy for you that your dr. appt. went well, our dr's can make or break our attitudes, especially ob/gyn's. When your pregnant, often times you see your doc more than your DH, so your relationship has to be good! :) I have heard great things for charting your temps. My SIL did that for her second child (was having problems getting pregnant, really screwed up menstral cycle) and after two months of charting, she became pregnant! So, I am sure that will happen for you shortly too! I do understand your emotions right now, after DH and I lost our second child when I was 22 weeks pregnant, all I could think about for the next 6 months was when can I get pregnant again, and "can I" get pregnant. Alot of blaming yourself happens, just remember, our bodies do things for a reason....hang in there!

Brenda ~ Way to turn down the pizza, that is my biggest failure, pizza! I love it!!

Belle ~ Don't let BF get you down, men aren't worth it! (Nice, coming from a married woman!) I had two relationships that were very long (one 3 years, the other 1.5 years) and I look back now, and wish I would have left sooner, look how much life I missed out on (or other men, for that matter!!)

Well, as for me, I was home yesterday with a sick child. But, all is well today. Trying to catch up on work. My eating yesterday wasn't great, but I did stay within points, I ate a McD's quarter pound meal deal, and skipped dinner because of it (I know, I don't make a habit of it) anyway, I am starting new today, and Monday was a good day, so hopefully I will still have a loss this week. I am walking at lunchtime again.

Well, better get some work done...check in later!! :)

Just to follow up on Shalyne... I once dated a guy that I was crazy about, but my friends and family were not. They started softly, by pointing out things that maybe I didn't want to hear. Then they became more and more frustrated.
What time (and a broken heart) taught me was that when everyone who loves you says the same thing, it's not because they're jealous of the relationship ;). The reason why everyone gently (and then not-so-gently) tried to talk to me about this guy was because they were genuinely concerned about what effect this relationship was having on me.
Just some thoughts....

What outsiders think:

Sister Kristin: Thinks I should run screaming
Sister Alana: Thinks he is clearly falling in love and scared to admit it/commit. Figures I have ruined his "plan" to move around and stuff and marry at like 30.
Oly: Thinks I should give him more time - he went from a wacked relationship with the ex to me and from having all his own time to having someone else to consider. She does think he has selfish tendancies and that I should focus on me more and if he chooses to leave, he isn't worth it. She is all for a timeframe.
Becky: Thinks he is falling in love too but hates how he treats me and thinks he better "shape up or ship out". She thinks I shoud play a little mind game of sorts and give him his "time off" and make myself unavailable to him, go out more, hang out with my friends, go on a self improvement plan and then he will realize what he has and make more of an effort (I am not so sure that mind games are goodthough).

That is the general opinion with my closest friends.

Hello ladies,

Well, Wednesday, thank goodness the week is half gone. Things seem to be good~despite the usual rollercoaster. I was very angry about the pre-nup stuff last night because bf changed his story a little. The night before he claimed it would be to appease his rich mother because he fears that she would x him out of her will. But last night it was about my age and he thinks that even if I say I would always be fair no matter if we split or not I might change my beliefs because I am young now. I am 23 he is 30. My mother said that my beliefs will change for the better~I agree. My mom said she was proud that I was being so strong about the whole thing. This morning before bf left he asked if I would make him some bannana bread with the verey ripe bannannas we have. I said okay, I will make the bread and in exchange I won't have to sign any pre-nup. *giggle* He said then don't worry about the bread but I said "no no I'll make the bread and I won't sign." He just laughed and kissed me goodbye :D

I have thought about it though and I told him that I know that whatever is his before the marriage (house) is his if we spilt. He knows I am not a gold digger. And if ever his mother insists on a pre-nup then he can choose if he wants to marry me or make his mother happy. Who incidently is really not nice at all. He doesn't even like to associate with her (thank god for small miracles) I feel that we can do just fine without her money and if he isn't willing to stick up for my/our morals then I wouldn't want to marry him anywasy.

So all in all I'm not so unhappy about it because I am very strong willed and opinionated and ya know thats what bf loves about me. Gotta take the good with the bad. :D

Belle~ I agree with your friends, he is clearly falling in love but is scared of his own feelings, common guy trait. I also hear you about not getting the whole "shes so hot I have to get her thing" I don't get that from bf~ but ya know, I have to say I would rather have a great personality than a great body. We can change our bodies but the ex will be boring for life :D

Oh I am in a fiesty mood!

Trish~ good luck with those kids!!!!!

Shayle~ awesome about that guy....you are being smart taking it slow.

Tonya~ don't worry about the mcd's, you made up for it and it's better not to deprive yourself.

Jules- good luck at WI

Lori- don't worry about it, just get back on the wagon. It is the strongest that can pick themsleves up after a fall.

Okay well, thanks so much for all the advice and help. You guys rock! Have a good Wednesday!

Oh, have to add one last thing.....incidently, bf's mother is not wealthy because she worked to get the $, she married into money. I wonder if she had to sign a pre-nup.

Your b/f's mom sounds like a weirdo (she and my stepmonster should get together!!)

I would follow your heart....I am sure he will see that soon too!

So with my b/f, you would agree to wait it out and see if it gets better? I do think he has pretty strong feelings, you know, its in how he acts sometimes. But this whole freaking out thing, its most taxing!!

anyhoo, about the body and personality - you are SO RIGHT!! She was pretty and thin and he left her b/c of her personality. I already have the personlaity he likes, he always says we "work on many levels and have lots of fun" so I have that at least!

The bod will come....

Belle.

When I was in 6th grade, I did extra credit assignments on the weather b/c I just knew I wanted to be a weather woman. :)
Well, I went to WI and only gained .5#!! I was really happy with that! I expected more of a gain since I had been slacking, but hey! and I'm bloated, too, so most of that .5# is water weight. Woo hoo! There's still hope for me!
Ok ladies, 100 days left until the wedding. That kind of puts a "nervous" perspective on everything, doesn't it?
So many things I still need to buy, yet not enough money. HA that's the story of my life! Well my boss just went to lunch, but I think I'm going to go walk.
Trish: You have given me new hope for the Cadbury Egg! I loved those when I was little and thought I had to give them up for good. YUMMY!
Ok, I'm off to walk.
Wow! I can remember the days when one thread would last for at least 2 days! Now one thread doesn't even seem big enough for one morning! That's great!!!
Have a great afternoon to all!!

Isn't that a Weather Girls song?

Belle, that is a STORY with your BF and his ex. Now I understand a whole lot more why he has so much trouble getting rid of her - she sounds super- monster- dependent, and those kinds of people can really reel you in. Whatever you decide about time limits or what have you, carry on doing what you've been doing and putting Belle first and making sure you get plenty of Belle time. You can NEVER put a time limit on that :)

Suzanne - how was the prenuptial banana bread?! I am getting married next year and I must confess, it hadn't occurred to either of us to get a prenup ... but that's probably because neither of us owns anything. I won't be fighting for his car and he won't be fighting for my viola, which is the most valuable thing I have ... Hope you get everything sorted. Whoever said to talk it through with him and find out what's really bothering him, that's what I'd do too. Good luck!

Stacey - 100 days left! Eek! I'm excited on your behalf!!! Do you have your dress and everything? Are you having a hen night? What are you going to do the night before the wedding? My Mum says we have to stay in different places ... makes it more romantic, she says, but I'm not sure sleeping in my old bed at home is what I want to do the night before - too many memories, when I want to be looking at the future ... well, I have plenty of time to be thinking about it, I guess...

I am having the worst chocolate craving right now and am SERIOUSLY tempted to go and find some ... I haven't had chocolate since I got to Spain (unless you count the evil Oreos at the cinema ...). SIGH. But Blokey is calling tonight, so HAPPYHAPPYHAPPY and hopefully my sister will call too and tell me how she got on this weekend in Amsterdam with her new Israeli man (yup, her life really is that exciting!),

Take care, hugs everyone,

Lolly
xxx

Just got back from WI and I broke a new decade! I'm pumped. I lost 1.2 #, so it was a good week for me. I'm with Tonya in that I've read all the posts, but I can't keep up right now. Here are a few of my thoughts...

Belle~WOW! With all of this history I think you are handling the situation very well. I agree with Lolly that you should keep the me time. I also agree that you shouldn't compare yourself to the ex. You're soooo right noticing the personality thing. That means way more in the long run! BTW love your dogs name!

Stacy~100 days will go be so fast (not to scare you). Enjoy this time! Don't stress too much on the details because it will all fall into place. Family and friends are really good at helping out as the wedding approaches. I know you've been told this a million, but it is true! Best wishes to you! Marriage is a blast.

Suzanne~Luckily my DH and I didn't have to worry about the pre-nup because we both started with little. I did work for two years while he was still in school so I was a little better off, but most of my assets were arranged as an entity so they were protected. We had to go through 6 meetings with a sponsor couple and they helped us figure out the money issues. I am a spender and he is a saver, so I guess we balance each other out. I am proud of you for standing your ground. Keep the communication open with him and you will work it out and avoid any resentments. I guess thats the best advice I can give.

Tonya~don't worry about the McD. I did that a couple of weeks ago with a Big Mac meal and still lost!

Lori~ This is the best place for making "confessions"! I think all of the people around me are sick of me making confessions to them, so I do it here. Just get back on the wagon and you'll be fine. Remember this is a life long journey and there are always good days and bad days.

Lola ~How do you like working for WW? I am tossing the idea around myself.

Brenda~ Way to go on the Pizza. You are much stronger than I. That is one food I have a hard time with (actually all fattening foods :)).

Hello to all I missed. I'll check back later!

Kay

Tonya, thank you for the insight and the understanding. You are right, maybe I am blaming myself and my body for what happened. I feel like my body let me down once before, it may let me down again. I think I will see how this goes and remember it has only been a little over two months. It just feels like forever.

Belle: that is quite a story with the BF's ex. She sounds like she was many problems. No advice right now on what to do except Lolly is right, make sure you make Belle time.

Lolly: sounds like you are having such a wonderful experience.

Stacey: that is great about WI. You will get that off in no time!

Suzanne: the pre-nup bread craked me up. I think you are doing the right thing and keeping communication open.

Shalyne: Go to the Dr. (Hugs) hope you feel better soon.

Lola: My hubby is in civil litigation. Interresting line of work.

Jules: will be thinking of you and your job issues. Glad BF is happy with the new job.

Ok, must get back to work.

Trish

We must have been posting at the same time. CONGRATS on the new decade. That is so geat. You are doing so wonderful on program!!!

Also, ment to add before that I am glad your boss let you have the time. Way to stand up for yourself!

Trish

Happy Lunchtime everyone!

I am sitting here eating a bag of mini carrots, I never realized how good and filling carrots can be! I am not very hungry today, so carrots are my lunch today!

I just finished my lunchtime walk, it felt good, and it is pretty nice out today!

Well, suppose I should try to work.....

WOW, the board is soooo busy today!!

Belle... DEFINATELY make Belle time. To me, it seems like the ex is incredibly insecure. She needs to let go and get her own life... make new friends. You bf needs to let her go. Honestly I think he needs to see that the ex is hanging on to every thread just because. My opinion is that they are both to blame.... he should have never used her for sex because now she keeps thinking that maybe there is a chance!! If only men would let things go!!! On the other hand....him liking you for your personality is a GOOD thing. Like you said, she will never have one, BUT you are on your way to being skinny!!! You got the best of both worlds so don't let him bring you down!! Give yourself lots of breathing room, if he really wants you, he will come find you while you are gone from him!! The last thing you want to do is hang onto him like the ex does. Let him choose... crazy lady who calls him all the time.... or a great gal who right in front of him!! Good luck Belle!!

Kay... YAHOOOOOEY for you. You are so super close to goal, I am jealous!!! But my day will come too!!

I better get back to work!! Have a great day everyone!

I can't believe it's only 2:30 and we are already on a second page. I can't keep up. I didn't get to wpork until 10:30 because I had a doctor's appointment this morning. No good news unfortunately. I found out that I am anemic so needed a blood test to track it. I had to get another shot in a tendon in my hand. It hurt so bad, I can not even say. It made me feel hot and sick too, yucky. I also have to go get xrays and see an occupational therapist. I will need splints for my middle finger s on both hands to straighten them out. How can I have these arthritis problems and I am only 26?? I got a new medication too. Exhausting.

So yesterday I spent and hour and a half at the gym. I think I earned 5 exercise points which would be great because I think I was 5 points over. I had a meeting (with food) and no dinner. I ate cheese and crackers, chips, M&Ms and chocolate cake. Oh well. Today started off fine until we had cake for someone's going away. I at 1/2 piece of carrot cake and 1/2 of oreo cake - delicious. Luckily I had not finished my lunch so I will save the rest for another day. Tonight we are having frozen lasagna and salad. Oh and since I had my appoinment in the morning, I went to the gym first. Good thing I did becasue I can't really use my hand for uch until tomorrow so I can't grip anything. I earned another 2 points.

I won't be able to respond to everyone but I want to say something about pre-nuptial agreements. I do not have one and didn't necessarily feel that I wanted one but I think there is nothing from them. I hope this doesn't offend anyone but I think it is fine if you want to protect yourself. If you trust yourself and your spouse and your relationship enough, it should not be a threat. I think it is prefectly acceptable to have one.

Ok, I hope all the sickies are feeling better. I am so glad that it is Wednesday. I can't wait to go home and lay on the couch since I already went to the gym today. I am going to make banana bread ( not-pre-nuptial) as a going away gift for work people for tomorrow. We are having a nice lunch and birthday cake so that will be another challenge for tomorrow. Ok, must go. Have a good day everyone.

Sarah
194.4/164.6/153WW

Kay that is awesome! Way to go!!!! Wow just a few pounds to go! I know you can do it!
Gotta get back to work!
See ya!

Girls,

I just wanted to apologize for not writing at all this afternoon. It's just been the worst day ever (with work, not WW - thank goodness).

I'll catch up and read all of todays posts either tonight or tomorrow morning.


Belle - awesome about passing up the pizza. Takes some will-power I know!! I LOVE PIZZA. It's just so hard to pass up!

Congrats on all the losses and I'll check in with you all tomorrow!

Lisa

Doing OK today. Started off really well with Oatmeal and some fruit and met a friend for lunch at Subway (yummy!). Then I ate some candy at work. I tried my best to figure it out and I’m going to dock myself 6 points for it. Will have to make sure my dinner is very low points so I can try to be at 23 again for the day. I AM GOING TO WI TONIGHT! Sorry, had to make a statement out of it! I think I lost so wish me much luck.

Jen: Thanks for the dog advice. I have heard the warning against rawhide etc. We keep lots of chewtoys around and do have a Kong. I think I’m going to go get another one with the little nubs on it. He does like the kong he has. The other thing we learned the hard way is not to get him stuffed animals with squeekers in them. One, he rips them to shreds in no time (wonderful fur diet) and he also gets them soaked with his saliva (trying to be less gross here girls). So he brings these soaked toys right up to us, chews them in our lap, you get the idea.

Belle: I totally understand about the M&M’s. I can eat a whole bag in no time. Or, a whole bag of regular and a whole bag of peanut butter! Argh. It’s OK, move on and bank for the rest of the week ;)

Lori: You can recover! Oh no, more GS cookie tragedies!! :s:

Lisa: Wow! Great info on the muscle/fat thing. I LOVE weight training and detest cardio. Maybe this will be my excuse to do more of the weights. Yeah, if I could ever get back into exercising.

Trish: Hi! I have a Cadbury Egg fetish as well. I have not broken down and bought any yet. Aren’t they like 4-5 points each. I could eat one a day and not get tired of them. I used to eat lots b/c, hey, they are only around once a year so you have to get as many as you can! Have I made you sick yet? The idea of using real eggs with leftover stuff is great! What an easy dinner. Kind of like minestrone soup eh? Thanks!

Jen & Trish: I keep buying things that are too small b/c they are killer prices! I’ve always known better than to do this. I’ve had one skirt for a year and a half. Pathetic. That’s why I’m so determined to make it this time and get to goal by sometime in the summer. I want to wear all this cute stuff and be comfortable in the slightly too tight stuff. I know we can I know we can I know we can!!

Ali: How was the presentation?

Belle: Holy cow! Sounds like that whole situation was a lot more turbulent than I originally thought. It kind of concerns me too that he had sex with her everytime he went back. Not b/c he would cheat on you, but b/c he really was leading her on. He should have put his foot down if he didn’t want a relationship. Guys can be so dumb. How could he not realize he was leading her on by sleeping with her? After all of the things you have told us that he has done I can see some of the same traits. Him not being able to decide what kind of commitment he wants etc. I do still agree that the ex-is psycho though so there’s another side to it too. Boy, I don’t envy you this situation darlin’!!

Kay: Congrats on the loss!!! Woohoo :D

Tonya: Are you a rebel carrot counter too?? :devil: I refuse to count them.

Sarah: Hope you get to feeling better soon!

Brenda - good luck at WI tonite!

Well, I am almost outta here too (YAY!) so i'll sign off. But first, let me say I too have the Cadbury Egg obsession. YUM!!! I have had one and I counted it at 6 points, so - oh happy day - I saved 2 points that day....too bad it was like 3 weeks ago!!!

Belle

My Presentation rocked! I was pretty happy with it. I am a natural public speaker when I want to be, I just have to believe in myself. Mmmmmmmmm I am glad Cadbury eggs are only 4 points, but I think I will try and resist having any until Easter because those things are so dang addictive. I also got a kick *** comment today from a guy who lived accross the hall from me in my first year of University, so I was really happy (I needed an injection into my ego and it was right before my presentation too).

Lisa: Yeah I am really in to weight training now. I am going for a session this evening during Survivor since I am sure the gym will be deserted;).

Belle: Ouch, your boyfriend should consider ceasing all contact with his ex. It may sound harsh and all, but she sounds like she doesn't get the hint that it is over. Your boyfriend shouldn't be putting you through this rollercoaster, he does sound sweet and all, but he should sort out his feelings and stand firm when it comes to his ex (she obviously has issues she needs to sort out). Belle, he loves your personality and that's great! Yes, maybe your relationship was build out of a strong friendship instead of a love at first sight kind of thing, but it means that you already know you're compatible in certain respects and that is fantastic!

Lori: your post just reminded me that I have to charge my cell thanks! But honestly you sounded like you made a good effort for your dinner, and that is admirable!

Lolly: Cool, my brother is going to Amsterdam as well. He wants to do his PhD there so he's planning to check out the campus. It's Raining Men is a weather girl's song.

Kay: You go girl!!! You are so close to goal that rocks:D

Suzanne: That's not a good situation, I am sorry your BFs mom is like that, I can't believe she's trying to use money as leverage.


Tonya: I like a meal at McDs once in a while as well.

Shalyne: Thanks, I am glad it made you smile. My mom knows I am pmsing and likes to make me more aggrevated (because I am usually so nice and calm, I think she knows that I need to unload sometimes).


Lola: Sure I'll attend one of your meetings! Cool, I am exploring the area on Saturday, to see where things are. I am so excited about moving though. Cool about McGill law school, that must have been fun (and stressful).

Julie: if you go to Ottawa tell us! I'd love to meet some people from the board!

Trish: yes, I savour the creamy centres of the Cadbury eggs as well.... YUMMY:) Thanks for the points!

Sarah: I love the smell of Banana bread.

Brenda: Thanks! The presentation did go well.

To everyone else, sorry I have run out of time, but take care and good luck to all of you!

Ali

:wave: It's me It's me!! No one is around for me to yell and scream and celebrate with! IlostIlostIlostIlostIlostIlost!!!!!!!! 2.6 pounds! Yiiiiiiiipppppppppppeeeeeeee for me! I'm so excited. It makes me feel like being good is worth it (until something yummy tempts me once more :s: ) DH isn't home for me to jump around in front of and make a fool of myself. Why is it just by losing a little it makes you feel good again, slim even?? Nah, not quite there yet :lol: I'm babbling now but just had to share the minute I got home. 'See' you cats lata!

I am so happy :) :)
I lost 4.25 lbs and got my 25lb bookmark and magnet. I had been losing an average of 2.5 a week then I lost .75 one week and 1.75 the next so I guess i just got back on track.

I just got in and don't have time to post to all but I read everything and will post better tommorrow if I am wrong and this is not a migraine coming on, please don't let it be I was in such a good mood.

We're both doing the dance girl!!! Congrats on your impressive loss!! Hope that wasn't a migraine :(