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AtkinsChick
01-29-2004, 12:46 PM
I have been on Atkins for 3 weeks now. I'm still on Induction (20 carbs or less per day). The first week I lost 5 pounds. THe second week I lost 2 more pounds. I weighed myself this week and I have GAINED 2 pounds back. What is with that?! I keep a food journal and I noticed that the past week I have eaten a lot more cheese and Have eaten those Morning Start Bars almost everyday.I have also had a lot more Splenda-Ice Cream with Splenda. Are those bars not good for you? Also, I logged on to Fitday.com and inputed all my foods for today... My ratio is this: 52% fat, 45% protein, and 3% carbs. Isn't it supposed to be a 65/30/5 ratio? Am I eating TOO much protein? What am I doing wrong? Another question, are Diet Rite sodas okay to drink? They are made with Splenda, but I have been drinking a couple of those everyday this week... I thought Atkins was supposed to help you lose weight,lol!! I used a keto-strip this morning too and it was almost negative in color! Every other day it turns dark pink! Am i out of ketosis? I need some advice please! I know there are a lot of questions...sorry :).


StarPrincess
01-29-2004, 12:57 PM
Hey AtkinsChick -

First, the bars and ice cream are very likely affecting your weight. I've said it a million times and I will say it again. You must pay attention to sugar alcohols! I'll find the thread and bump it up for you. They will stall you out and even make you gain weight because they are carbs and they are digested - no matter how slowly.

Secondly, check the FAQ section. There's a thread there about why it's normal to stall in the 3rd or 4th week or even gain a little bit back.

So cut out the bars, ice cream and even cut back as much as possible on the soda and drink your water instead.

Good luck!
~Star~

Leenie
01-29-2004, 02:58 PM
Hi AC, welcome !!!!

Don't worry about asking questions, thats how we all learned.
You might want to check out on Fitday your calorie intake compair it to the first two weeks and see.

I gained my third week to, because I was eating 2400 calories and didnt' realize it, once I cut out some of the cheese and other things out, I started losing again.

Like Star said, be careful on the prepackaged foods, I would go lightly on them and use them as a treat instead of a staple. Remember the simpler the food the better.

Hugs !!!


lady_adnerb
01-29-2004, 03:40 PM
oh heck. Forgot to watch my cheese intake. Bet it's higher than it should be. Thanks for the reminder!!

Kim in NJ
01-29-2004, 04:50 PM
Ditto to Star's comments on the bars and ice cream!
I too stalled in the first month and I re-read his chapter on Yeast problems. Now I have never had a yeast infection in my life so when I first read the book I skipped that chapter. But since reading it I've cut out all mold types cheeses and stuck with mozarella and cream cheese. I've also cut out the mold type nuts and that seems to have helped.

I also began taking some of the supplements he recommends which I too believe have helped me a great deal espeically Aceytl-L-Carnitine and CO-Q10.

Khem
01-29-2004, 10:29 PM
I'm willing to bet it's the fake sweets. Diet Rite, as far as I know, is ok in moderation. Remember Dr Atkins said to have no more than three packets worth of splenda a day MAX. I count each can of pop, each packet in coffee, as one of those... maybe limiting yourself to the 3 servings of fake sugar a day would help? When you consider each packet of splenda is a gram--limiting yourself to a total of 3 grams sweetener a day would drastically cut down on them. Things sweetened with dextrose, sugar alcohols, etc all pretty much contain upwards of 10 grams--making them, in my mind, unsuitable for induction or people stalled in OWL.

Your ratio looks fine.

It is entirely possible that, given a few days, those two pounds will be gone because: it could be water, it could be lack of fiber, it could be *natural and normal* fluxuation that occurs in weight on a day to day basis and you just hit a higher point.

LoriB
02-02-2004, 02:47 AM
HI, I have been luking for some time while I tried to get my account activated and now I can post (yea!). I have lost 63 lbs since I started on Atkins mid July 2003 and know I have not lost any weight for two weeks. Have any of you had a stall at this point in you weight loss? I have been cheat free the whole time and my fitday was 70f/17c/23p. I wonder if my portions of meat are to big now that I have lost some of my weight? I am a bulk eater so like to fill up on protien. I am going to curves three times a week. Lori

Spedmom
02-02-2004, 07:12 AM
On my last Atkins foray, the only thing I found that would successfully break a "stall" -- if I was still being careful about my ratios and keeping down my carb count -- was EXERCISE. Now, I'm not one for big exercise, but I made it a point during stalls to walk a mile a day for at least 4 days a week and.....POOF!!! The stall was broken. Worked every single time.

Spedmom
02-02-2004, 07:24 AM
I've thought about it, and I just have to throw this one in, although I've never tried it:

My physician's assistant back in Baltimore was an Atkins convert. She personally lost over 80 pounds on the diet and had her own "secret" for busting through stalls that she said was based on the Heller's method. If she stalled for more than 2 weeks, she would work a high-carb meal into her diet. The deal was, however, that you had to eat the meal in one hour. Then, back on induction levels of carbs (not more than 20 per day) for at least a week. She tried to explain it to me in lots of medical terms, but the idea was that it jump-started your system by the effect it had on your insulin levels. She cautioned me against using candy, etc., but suggested pasta. I never tried it, but she swore by it! I'd love to know what STAR thinks of this....

Tummy Girl
02-02-2004, 07:25 AM
Lori, welcome :), depending on what stage of Atkins you're in your carbs might be high at 17%, otherwise with your fat ratio in the 70 range you should be losing. How long has your stall been? I'm down 45 since July, (with a three month stint in maintenance due to some major life stress issues) and have yet to had a stall, I think 7 days is my longest time without a weight loss. As sped mom said, excersie may be the answer :devil:. Also, there's a great site that has a whole section on plateaus and what to do to break them, Your First Plateau....Is it really a plateau? (http://www.lowcarbluxury.com/beginners.html) Hope it helps, and wtg on the 63 pounds! How far are you from you goal?

Tummy

Khem
02-02-2004, 08:59 AM
I just wanted to chime in and say it's not a stall until you've gone *4 weeks* without a change in weight OR inches and you've made no changes to diet or activity level. If you've been on vacation, added something in, or changed your level of activity-atkins says you need to look at that. Also, it's entirely possible to lose inches and not weight--and if you're doing that, it isn't a stall.

lady_adnerb
02-02-2004, 09:05 AM
Wow. I read that and noticed I don't think I'm drinking enough water. I was drinking roughly 8 glasses a day. But I'm seeing they suggest I drink about 2-3 more glasses. Not sure my bladder can handle it. lol

StarPrincess
02-02-2004, 09:58 AM
I agree with Khem that it's not a stall at this point. Lori, you and I are in similar positions. I started Atkins in mid-July 2003 and have lost 58 pounds. I don't see changes in the scale every week. I attribute it to my body needing to catch up on occasion. There's some mighty big changes going on! ;)

Spedmom - I personally wouldn't go with an entire high carb meal, but that's just me. That being said, I have had a higher carb meal on occasion (we're talking once every 3 months) and it sometimes kicks my body back into gear. My own personal rule is that I will not eat anything that will not be a part of maintenance. So no sugar and nothing made with white flour. The 2 higher carb meals that I've had occured at Outback where I had a little slice of the whole wheat bread and ordered a loaded baked potato with my steak. No croutons because they're made with white flour. I don't eat the entire potato, just a few bites that come out to under 1/2 a cup.

It tastes pretty good and I don't feel bad because I'm still staying on plan :D

cathyxxx
02-02-2004, 11:04 AM
Hey Gang, I've been lurking a lot on the Atkins boards lately bec I'm fixing to give it a go after my next doctor's appointment, and wanted to say that there was a lot of good info right here on this thread. I did not know you were suppose to limit Splenda to 3 packs a day. Wow! I use 3 in one cup of coffee and have 2 cups a day. I also have at least one glass of caff free diet coke a day which is made with aspartame. don't know if that matters or not? But I can't think of anything else right off the top of my head that I have with splenda in it, but I'm sure there is more, if I really think about it.

But wanted to say something about AtkinsChick scale being up 2 lbs. Am I the only like this??? if if get on the scale everyday (which I quit doing a long time ago) my weight can fluctuate anywhere from 2 to 4 lbs for no reason at all. Be up 2 one day, down the 2 the next, up 3 and down 2. It's crazy! That's why I don't get on the scale everyday or even once a week. I mean maybe AtkinsChick didn't gain back 2 lbs, maybe it was just a crazy weight fluctuation that evened itself back out during the week?

thanks for the continued good info.

Cathy

StarPrincess
02-02-2004, 11:11 AM
Cathy, I agree with you! I fluctuate 3-4 pounds during the course of the day! I'm a scale addict. Maybe it's just rationalization, but I think that it helps keep me sane because I don't freak out when my weight seems a little high in the afternoon because I weigh myself frequently enough to know where my "range" is. So as long as I'm within or below my range, I'm happy. ;)

Aspartame is a judgement call. It's discouraged because it can have adverse effects on you. I get major stomach cramps if I have very much of it.

VanIsle
02-02-2004, 03:20 PM
HELP, well today was my weigh in and according to my scale I have not lost anything and lost 5 pounds in the first 14 days. I think Im doing everything by the book. am at about a 65 /30 /5 ratio. and average about 1300 cal. I do have 1 coffe in the morning usually with cream no sugar. Does Atkins maybe not work with every one? I have about 30 pounds to lose . How long should I give it ago for? I would hate to be eating this way and find out it is adding to my weight.I dont eat anything not on the induction list besides the coffee and maybe a SF jello once in awhile.

StarPrincess
02-02-2004, 03:31 PM
You must be patient! It's normal to have weeks where you don't see a change in the scale. Pay attention to your inches and how clothes are fitting, too. Also, keep in mind that the less weight you have to lose, the slower it comes off.

Most importantly, are you exercising? Building those muscles is important! :strong:

Sha
02-02-2004, 03:40 PM
I know this is going to sound off, But A few years ago I lost right at 100 pounds. The first month I lost 4 pounds the next 4 months I lost 00000. but after that it just dropped off. I don't know why. But I will say what I learned Is don't give up.

VanIsle
02-02-2004, 03:57 PM
I do get in my exercise I have a Precor elliptical and (TRY )for 40 min / 5 days /Wk
I am also doing winsor pilates and am going to start doing more with weights.
I just read the posting on water and it realy made sense so am going to really try to drink more.Its hard to get the low fat way of thinking out of my had.
DH started in December on Low cal/fat and is down like 35 pounds now. But he is exercising now and he used to eat lie a Pig so I guess youd have to lose then.

StarPrincess
02-02-2004, 04:06 PM
You sound like you're doing everything right. It will happen!

I LOVE Winsor Pilates!!!! I'm finally convincing dh to do the little 20 minute workout with me a few times a week. He's adorable! He can barely touch his knees :lol:

Thanks to pilates, I can (while keeping my legs totally straight) put my hands flat on the floor. :smug:

cathyxxx
02-02-2004, 04:49 PM
Sha, can I ask...I'm trying to picture myself losing 4 lbs the first month, and then not losing anything for the next 4 months....how in the world did you stay on atkins for 4 months of losing zilch???

Last year I tried Atkins induction for 2 weeks and lost nothing so decided it was just too hard for me to do if I wasn't gonna lose anything....but I'm thinking about giving it another go for at least a month to see if it will budge any of this weight.

Cathy

Sha
02-02-2004, 05:46 PM
I was NOT on the low carb plan. A different one. But I still think if was a matter of remembering we did not put the weight on fast. I know it felt like it. ha ha.. Just remember your worth it. I don't kow if you ever lost the weight before. but I have and I just remember how it felt to go shopping and have thing fit. ha ha.. I also only weighed myself once a month. Maybe that made it a little easier. I did feel better. I did have more energy. So I hung on to that. But the day I had dropped 12 pounds made up for the months of not lossing anything.. Just remember your worth it..

KarenW
02-02-2004, 06:38 PM
Just a little insight from My perspective too...

I have been battling my weight since puberty.. And I have come to find that no matter what WOE you do... you will ALWAYS have weeks where you dont lose weight.

I know too that I have what my doctor has called a "Set-Point". THis is a spot where I sat at a constant range for a year or longer with out gaining or losing. I have one at 190 pounds... I have another (Where I am at right now) at 160-170. I was in this range for 10 years. It is a point where my body is comfortable and I have to work hard to break. I dont remember the last time I was below 160.. probably in Grammar School!!

The other thing to note is that when you start an exercise program... you may find that you stall out for a couple of week. The first reason for this is any muscle sorness you may have is caused by fluid retention in the muscles. Sounds weird, but once my doctor explained it to me it made sense. THe water is retained as a "soothing" element to the muscle. THe other reason is that although you are losing fat... you are gaining muscle when you exercise.. especially if you are doing any sort of resistance training. Muscle weighs more than fat! When I started atkins.. I started exercise in my 2nd month. For 2 weeks I didnt lose an ounce.. then the WHOOSH Fairy appeared and I lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks! :)

And remember.. the more muscle you gain.. the faster the fat loss! :)

Hope that helps some of you!

Khem
02-02-2004, 09:50 PM
Average induction loss is 20% of the total you have to lose. You said you want to lose 30 lbs...5-6 pounds is right on track. I've heard MANY people stall right after induction (1-2 weeks) and then start losing again.

I'm right with ya in 3-4 week stall mode :)

lady_adnerb
02-02-2004, 10:08 PM
I'll be happy at a steady 2 pounds a week. Oh, and you know the "you didn't put the weight on overnight" theory? I can testify to being a person that the weight just piled on week after week! It used to be terrible stepping on the scale or trying to put my clothes on! It got to the point I refused to buy jeans because I knew I'd just outgrow them. Thank God for Atkins and the possibility (saying possible because I don't want to jinx myself. lol) of actually being at the weight I want again!!

cathyxxx
02-03-2004, 10:39 AM
KarenW - thanks for the explanation about set point and exercising. I have always been a walker, but the day after Christmas I started strength training with handweights and an exercise ball, and haven't lost a thing, even inches. Sometimes it really helps to hear explanations about what is going on.

thanks,
cathy

KarenW
02-03-2004, 12:33 PM
Cathy - if you havent lost weight or inches since the day after christmas.. I really think you are at a stall! or a set point. Reread the atkins section on stalls, or email the support over at the Atkins center (http://www.atkins.com) for help to break through! For me I know I have to shake things up quite a bit!

cathyxxx
02-03-2004, 12:43 PM
Hey KarenW, thanks for the reply.

I'm not doing Atkins yet. I have too much going on in my life right now to give it the full attention that I need to. I don't know why Atkins takes so much effort for me to do, but it does. But I hope to start it the end of the month.

And yes, I'm at a stall or a set point or something.....that is the story of my life.

I'm hoping Atkins will help me get some weight off for a change. we will see.

thanks,
cathy

Mitch7986
02-04-2004, 02:50 PM
I am a former gymnast, used to being around 100 lbs. Between stopping the sport and starting college, I put on about 50 lbs. very quickly. I lost 30 lbs. over the summer on a lo-cal diet and vigorous excercise plan. Nevertheless, the weight loss totally stalled out at about 114, probably due to a combination of decreased metabolism and the godawful DEPO-PROVERA shot. I decided that Atkin's was the solution, but I am starting to regret it. I have been in the induction phase for a little over two weeks and have been steadily gaining weight the whole time. I'm now up to 120 and starting to panic. I really want to give this a chance, but will the weight gain ever end and the loss begin? HELP!!!

LoriB
02-07-2004, 08:06 PM
StarPrincess my start weight was 293 and I will be happy to get under 200 but would love to keep going until I am at 170. I was weighed at curves after I posted and did lose six pounds for January so I guess I wasn't in a stall like I felt I was. I really am glad you all let us know about splenda as I have been using way too much! I stay away from most pre packaged low carb food. My weight will go up or down a pound or two for no reason but I am defintley slowing down maybe I will cut back on portion size. Have a nice day! Lori