Support Groups - Flying Cows with hanging guts and butts




Bagzz
01-19-2004, 11:46 AM
i have no reason to name a new thread,but there you have it!!---ALSO---six of us are going to Denver to step dd's graduation in May====and i have to know from you ladies!!!!WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET CHEAP TICKETS?????WE want to leave from Bangor so we can get the cheaper American Flights---does anyone use Expedia,or Cheaptickets or one of these places or should i get a travel agent from bangor or WHAT is the cheapest thing to do-====we don't want to pay five thousand dollars for airfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP HELP HELP THE FLYING COW WITH THE PENDULOUS UNDERHANGINGS!!!!! :o :o :o :o :( :( :( :( :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:


Kiwonk
01-19-2004, 01:38 PM
Dahling Dahling Calm yourself!!!!!!!!! Don't limit your search for airline tix to Bangor -- it is one of the most expensive places to fly out of. But I always use Expedia when I'm looking for cheap flights. I haven't tried Cheaptickets, but that would probably work just as well. Actually you should contact a ticket agent in your city because they might have other options you haven't thought of--maybe a direct flight from your area to connections in Boston or Chicago or something.

Gotta run. Kiwi

P.S. Love the udderly charming thread title :moo:

Wabby
01-19-2004, 01:39 PM
Bagzie, I wish I could give you advice, but since I never travel I can't tell you how to get the cheap tickets. I can tell you how to get the cheap train tickets to see the garden show - Go to the Seattle visitor's website and click on the Amtrak thingie. Get 2 for one coupon. Then check out Seattle super saver website for hotel specials. This year I'm going with my entire Bunco group!!!!! Won't that be fun???? A dozen yakity women on the move. I'm in charge of making arrangements. Yikes!

I'm so relieved to hear that Peaches cookware problem has been solved. Your friend sounds like a handy person to know.

I'm trying to remember what were the subjects in the last thread, but my brain doesn't work that well. Refresh my memory.

Oh, except I love the slenderinas - I have always had slenderinas even when the rest of me has been anything but.


Bagzz
01-19-2004, 03:00 PM
darlings---it is so nice to know that you can just come on the computer and rant and rave,and then go and do your boring chores and come back hereand find wonderful people commenting on your deranged chatter------THANK YOU FOR THAT----KIWI---all the Canadian Flight prices are AT LEAST twice the price of American---that's why we must cross the border----do you think portland would be better????

Wabby
01-19-2004, 05:10 PM
This is boringly On Topic, so scroll if you must - I got a copy of Shape magazine's Hot Dance Hits on cd. I dug out my kid's portable cd player and went walking at the park. It makes all the difference in the world! I walked for 2 miles fast and it was actually fun! Hopefully I'll have enough daylight left after work today to do it again.

I'm up about 4 pounds. I've got to get a grip. So far today, I've been good. So far. So good.

I subscribed to Fitness magazine. Will that help?

What is everyone else doing to advance the weight loss agenda?

Bagzz
01-19-2004, 11:36 PM
we have a weight loss agenda???oh yeaaaaaaaaaah----Perfect NINETY NINE!!!!!

PainterWoman
01-20-2004, 01:44 AM
It pays to shop around. By all means look at Expedia, Travelocity, etc. Travelocity is nice because it actually lists the real airline you'd use... Cheap Tickets and some of the others make you order your tickets "blind"... and there are a few airlines I just wouldn't ever use.
When I was trying to price tickets from Dallas to St. Petersburg it was around $800 at first with TWO :devil: connections.... Then I thought... well, maybe Tampa'd be better. Direct flight only $200 something. :angel: I think you're on the right track checking it out with friends... AND don't hesitate to get your room reservation. DS graduating from Indiana U (in the middle of hardly anyplace/Bloomington... and when I called about rooms for MAY (in August) the Holiday Inn people just laughed at me... had to take rooms 20 miles away.

Re movies... If Cold Mountain is too dark, whatabout Big Fish... I understand it's weird.... or Love Actually or any of the likely Academy nominees... Hope you and DH have a happy celebration.

We DO have a weight loss agenda.
And I think if we don't get to it, we'll all be sorry. I know that I want to see what y'all LOOK like (besides those cutesy avatar thingy's) but I don't want to SHOW you my mug until it doesn't have 4 chins. :eek:

Anybody know how to get smilies into the journal entries?

Wabby
01-20-2004, 01:19 PM
I like to hide behind the anonymity of the internet.

I'm in a snit with my DH. He gave me a list of vacation days he has assigned us for the year. One 4 day fishing trip in BC, Canada for him. One entire week at the rodeo for him (I only go for a 3 day weekend). A week off in August for the 2 of us. No week on a cruise ship for the 2 of us!!! He says we can't afford it. Which I know, but what's with only a measly week of vacation for me? And of course I can take another week somewhere, but by myself??? That wouldn't be any fun. Who wants to meet me in Las Vegas? I just feel like I haven't had any fun lately and I need some fun!!!!!I'm starting to feel all weepy and pissy. :stress:

I didn't go walking after work yesterday. I ate 3 chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. I haven't lost any pounds. I'm feeling bluuuuuue :( whine. whine. whine. snivel.

Kiwonk
01-20-2004, 04:03 PM
Aw, Wabbit, that's not fair -- 3 vacations for him/1.2 for you? Not fair not fair. Men are so strange; just when you have them all figured out they go and have a brain f**t and do something even more insensitive or insane than ever. :lol: We were talking about vacations the other day too; DH has 4 weeks this year and we are already taking a week to go to NYC (April, that's 3 months for me to get svelte--notice how quickly I shift from Fit by Feb to that?), we will probably go to NC for Christmas, leaving 2 weeks for him to plan in the summer. Nothing unusual here, same ol', same ol' -- then out of the blue he's talking about Shouldn't we do a big family trip to someplace exotic before DD graduates high school? Like the Galapagos or Ireland or France or Yuahaca (sp?) or something. Huh? Mr. Tightwad wants to globe-trot. Should we let DD bring a friend? I swear I think he's getting Alzheimer's or something.

Oy.

Painty, I forgot about Travelocity; that's the one I usually use -- I was thinking that was the same as Expedia. It takes time, but it does have a good search feature. You can tell it to find other airports in the same area at cheaper prices, which might work well, Bagz. You know, plug in Bangor, but tell it to look for other airports.

We ended up seeing Paycheck, just because that's what we were in the mood for. It was fun. Love Actually's not playing here. I'm annoyed at the local movie theaters anyway (when I say local, I mean those within a 75 mile radius :rolleyes: ) -- one of the "cheap seats" theaters switched from second run features to first run, which means they are playing the exact same thing as the big theater, so now we have 6 fewer options of movies. Suck.

Gotta go research music camps for DD. BBS (be back soon)

Oh, I don't journal, so I don't know about the smilies. Ask on the Journal problems forum. :idea:

Kiwi

Wabby
01-20-2004, 05:08 PM
Should we let DD bring a friend? Yes, I will be DD's friend. That would solve the problem of my vacation.

PainterWoman
01-20-2004, 06:45 PM
Wabby, come to Texas... but come in the winter.... so you don't get cooked. Stock show/rodeo was last weekend. Or come in October so you can drink and go to the STATE FAIR OF TEXAS. And then in Spring there's the international Mary Kay convention. Big hair and pink cadillacs. Weeee haaaaaaaaaaaw. Or just come visit.

Lohani
01-20-2004, 07:33 PM
I want to go to the Mary Kay convention. I'm going to get my Aqua Net and rat tailed comb so I can start getting ready right now. I hope they have better makeup than Merle Norman.

I'm on my way to hockey. My boys' teams play each other tonight. Sugar or Cherry are probably the only ones who would understand why they can't be on the same team....I mean besides the fact that is makes it more difficult for me. They are TOO competitive.

I only have 1 1/2 more weeks of my current servitude left. I prefer to watch The Daily Show at 10AM....and I am completely behind on my Law and Order on TNT schedule. Can't wait.

Wabby, so unfair about the vacations. We should be planning our trip to Paris...or at least to Las Vegas.

Gotta go.

Bagzz
01-20-2004, 11:41 PM
I don't know how it will happen but i do see a meeting of the herd in our future-------i am sure you will all join me in agreement---------WE WOULD HAVE A BALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!AND I of course would try not to drink the entire time,so i could remember what fun it was.

SugP
01-21-2004, 08:02 AM
...are they gonna throw Martha in the slammer ( those vertical stripes are sooooooo slimming!) and will she still be able to do her show from there?

Did weights on Sunday and 30 mins on the elliptical (yesssss, Wabby, I do actually use it sort of regularily) on Monday. Was a slug yesterday. May do something today. Or not.

SugP
01-21-2004, 08:21 AM
I'm afraid I'm not even old enough to know about Aqua Net or rat tailed combs. ;) Remember Dippity Doo? I loved that stuff. Spit curls 'r' us.

Lohani
01-21-2004, 08:46 AM
That wasn't nice. I thought Sugar was the nice one...I guess Kiwi has become the nice one and Sugar has become nasty. She boasts of exercise and youth.

You must have stiff (http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=7934&aid=333321&aparam=aquanet) poofed (http://www.tressence.com/c3_tail.html?source=Overture&OVRAW=rattailed%20comb&OVKEY=comb%20rattail&OVMTC=standard) hair (http://www.wtv-zone.com/dpjohnson/beautyandthebouffant/).

SugP
01-21-2004, 10:14 AM
It was my evil Sugar-Twin. Really. :devil:

Bagzz
01-21-2004, 02:23 PM
almost fifty year olds are sensitive

Wabby
01-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Almost 50 year olds are extremely sensitive. Actually I'm looking forward to it. Of course, it won't happen to me for years.

One of the guys here just got back from Florida yesterday. He was wearing a t-shirt and shorts when he was there. Do you think Peachers is wearing shorts? It's ffffridgid here today. Not frigid like it is in the NE, but cold enough.

Painty, how nice to offer me a Texas vacation! Rodeo or Mary Kay? that's a tough one. I have the BIG silver belt buckle and western clothes that the rodeo would require. Then again, I think I'd fit right in with the Mary Kay crowd. Would you throw in a little psychoanalysis? :dizzy:

I did 1 mile of a Leslie Sansone 2 mile walk tape this morning. Didn't have time for the whole thing. I figured a little exercise is better than none. I've discovered a fat free salad dressing for Wendy's mandarin chicken salad. The one that comes with the salad has 170 calories. Mine has 50 calories. I'm really trying to behave myself. I do just fine until I get home from work. Then I start snacking. I guess a little eating right is better than none, too.

I visited my boobie bob Dr. yesterday. All is well. Now what should my next plastic surgery fix? My sister just had her eyelids done. Very subtle difference, but she looks very good. Of course, I thought she was purdy before.

Kiwonk
01-21-2004, 04:45 PM
...are they gonna throw Martha in the slammer ( those vertical stripes are sooooooo slimming!) and will she still be able to do her show from there?

What could be more moving than watching Martha plaintively say "I don't know why people don't like me?" :rofl:

Kiwonk
01-21-2004, 04:47 PM
Wabbit, how cold could it be if you can walk outside? I have been debating whether my exercise should consist of snowshoeing or indoor exercise tapes. Since I can't decide, I'm doing neither. I will be the biggest thing on Broadway in April.

Lohani
01-21-2004, 05:04 PM
snowshoeing?
What are you seeing while in NY?

Kiwonk
01-21-2004, 05:41 PM
Our only firm plan is to see the new production of Fiddler on the Roof; we know someone in it, so we're hoping to get really good tickets. Or to get tickets, at least. The friends we're going with are looking for other shows, but we may or may not join them -- DH would like to find a concert worth seeing.

Around here if you don't do any winter sport, you go utterly insane. I rarely go cross-country skiing anymore, but there's no reason I shouldn't, I'm just too lazy. Snowshoeing is so easy -- strap them on and go for a walk. I can't skate worth spit and downhill skiing isn't really exercise (for me it's excruciating pain anyway); neither is snowmobiling which the majority of people in this area consider a winter sport. Considering that winter stretches from November to April, y'gotta do something.

Kiwi

Wabby
01-21-2004, 08:20 PM
Kiwi, It's 37 degrees, and like I said, not cold by northeastern standards, but cold by weinie northwest standards. I'm sure your friend told you how we all fell to pieces when we had the ice storm. There was 24 hours news coverage about "Winter Storm 2004". We are babies. Babies. Waaaaah.

Wabby
01-22-2004, 06:27 PM
It's been 22 hours since my last post and no one has been here? Not possible.

Lohani
01-22-2004, 06:47 PM
I agree. This is unacceptable.

Cowpernia
01-22-2004, 07:21 PM
I tried to get here but something went wrong.

Wabby
01-22-2004, 07:28 PM
I think I spelled wienie wrong yesterday. That's probably why I'm being shunned.

Cowpernia
01-22-2004, 07:37 PM
Honestly, Wabby, that's not it. It must be something else.

Kiwonk
01-23-2004, 12:03 AM
It's PMS. Perpetual Menstrual Syndrome. My cramps are receding and my headache is coming on. I'm getting very tired of this. You'd think that sprouting hair in inopportune places would take the place of shedding vast quantities of blood, but no.

Cherry Cow
01-23-2004, 12:31 AM
I'm just filling out lots of grad school forms and stuff.

I have no idea what they mean by "resume." Work resume? Curriculum vitae?

Wabby, eyes now? Wow!

Our turtle died today, so we had a tearful burial in the back yard tonight. Very sad, especially for Little Guy. It was his pet, even though I took care of it because of the salmonella risk. We're sad.

SugP
01-23-2004, 04:01 AM
Poor turtle - I've watched little turtles die. Not fun. Poor Zippyboy.

The problem with Martha is you either love her or hate her. They're going to be hard-pressed to find a neutral party.

I'm just posting here to put off exercising. If I wait long enough, it'll be time for my dentist appt and I'll have an excuse.

Bagzz
01-23-2004, 10:10 AM
IT'S MARGIE NIGHT-----------WHOO HOO--------------------CHERRY!! sorry about your little guy's pet----that is so sad for them---my daughter cried for days when our cat died {she was eight at the time} but i still feel sad when i think about "Doveycat"----one of those damn lessons we hate the kids to have to learn..................WABBY GET THE **** OUT AND GO FOR A WALK-----------------FOR GEE AAAA DOUBLEYA DEEEEEEE'S SAKE----KIWI AND I ARE LOOOOOOOOOOONGING FOR A DAY WHERE FROSTBITE IS NOT AN ISSUE-DO IT FOR THE FROZEN COWS.--------i have done 30 min treadmill every day this week---very slow like an old woman would.

PainterWoman
01-23-2004, 11:40 AM
I actually was running around like mad yesterday... and HOW DID IT GET TO BE SO LATE??? Omigod... gotta get going... but first :lol:
I don't think Mary Kay would ALLOW any Aquanet... and the biggest difference I can tell between her stuff and Merle Norman is the amount of formaldehyde (more) and the cute pink plastic cases that the powders come in. Plus the sales reps will come to you... (at least here in Tx, you have to find a Merle Norman kiosk somewhere).

I DO understand why siblings should not be on the same hockey team!!! In our case it was my son and his step brother.... and it did make it more complicated for a while... but the dad and step mom couldn't be "fair and impartial" when they were on the same team in the same game (they compared the boys ad nauseum) so the boys asked to be on different team. Somehow when they played against each other and competition was overt, all was well. God, I don't miss the smell, though! :lol:

Kiwi -- your too funny: Perpetual Menstrual Syndrome... Good news is that when you DO reach 50 and are POST PMS things settle down... But those odd hairs still show up. I am good friends with my bifocals and my tweezers!

Take care y'all.

Wabby
01-23-2004, 02:34 PM
Yippee skippee, it's Friday!!!!!It's been a long and stressful week. I really need a break from this place. I plan on a long walk in the northerners honor. And what else this weekend? nothing. maybe I should go up to a resort in the Columbia Gorge and go in their mineral baths and have a body wrap and massage. or I could be cheap and just use their pool and mineral whirlpool for only 10 bucks.

Cowpernia
01-23-2004, 03:16 PM
I've been waiting to learn about the novel writing class. did I miss it Cherrry?

Kiwonk
01-23-2004, 06:48 PM
Oh yes, Wabbit, go spa-ing for me, please! I will sit back in my recliner with an ice pack on my forehead and think soothing thoughts.

Have a nice weekend, cowsies.

Kiwi

Wabby
01-23-2004, 07:33 PM
I will go spa-ing if I don't get in a mood this weekend. Because in my moody state I can't get enough energy up to move off the couch. I've been getting in a mood quite often lately. All the guys here at work are talking about depression and anxiety attacks and stuff. It must be the dark winter blahs. Did you know that they can tell if you're depressed by a blood test now? Anyway, that's what Guy #1 here says.

I think I should name the guys like Plain Jane does her co-workers. There would be Re-marrying Guy, Familyman Guy, Smallmansyndrome Guy, and Living-with-an-older-woman Guy. Then of course, DS Guy and DH Guy.

Cherry, I was just kiddin' about the eye lift. I think I'm done with surgical procedures for quite some time. Although it was a good excuse to take some time off work. That tells you exactly how fulfilling my work is.

I finished Shutter Island. It was good, but not quite as good as Mystic River by the same author. Then I also finished In Her Shoes which was good, but again not as good as Good In Bed also by Jennifer Weiner. Seems to be the rule. Either that or I have inflated expectations when reading a book by an author that I have already read and liked. Now I'm reading The Lovely Bones which I'm loving so far.

Cherry, what kind of fiction do you plan on writing? Any particular genre?

Bagzie, how are the margies going? Tipsy yet? :cheers: I think if DH is going to be fishing all weekend, he should take me out to dinner tonight.

I re-read this post and it sounded like yakityyakityyakityyakmememememe. I'm losing it and I don't mean weight. Have a good weekend, my lovelies. I think I should skip dinner and hit the margies too. And did I tell you DD and her boyfriend broke up and I have an unconsolable 23 yr old at home this weekend along with a 20 year old with tonsilitis and a 102 degree fever? Gotta go. have eye doc appt.

Cherry Cow
01-23-2004, 08:59 PM
Hi!
I'm sorry, I forgot to answer the novel question... it's a program at the forward motion site (www.fmwriters.com). The author is developing the course as we work on it. It's pretty cool to be in on it in the beginning like this. Wabby, I think I'm mostly writing mainstream fiction with female characters, but not chicklit, abused-wife lit, downtrodden womanlit, just stories about (I hope) interesting people. Peaches, what is your novel about?

Bagzz, I hate that Little Guy had to learn this lesson. This is the third time for my kids, the first time for LG. The guinea pig from Big Guy's Sure Start class died in our house (but he had outlived most guinea pigs by about two years) and then the bunny we got to replace it died in my hands about a year later (the Sure Start people did not clean its cage, which can kill a bunny. I would never get an animal for a classroom again. The guilt is tremendous.)

Wabby, I'm sorry about DD's boyfriend breaking up with her. It's heartbreaking.

Sugar P, I can't believe you would rather go to the dentist than exercise!

Hi Kiwi, Painty, and Lush!

I'm going swimming tonight. Yay!

Bagzz
01-24-2004, 12:06 AM
i would rather eat things from Survivor and Fear Factor than go to the dentist--------the margie was FAB tonight---i only had one so dh could have several beer---he can have a headache tomorrow---i feel great[and fat}---------MY DEAR SIL LOST SIXTY POUNDS COUNTING POINTS ALL BY HERSELF {NO MEETINGS} SHE STARTED LAST MAY CAUSE SHE WANTED TO LOOK GOOD FOR HER CRUISE WITH MY BROTHER FOR THEIR TWENTY FIFTH---THEY LEAVE NEXT WEEK AND SHE LOOKS BEAUTIFUL!!!! I AM SO HAPPY FOR HER!!!!!!

Cowpernia
01-24-2004, 12:46 AM
your brother is married?????

Cherry, my novel is about stupid men who, if they make a decision, can't make a right one. Also, the women in their lives are not perfect like us.

mom update: my cousin Eeyore came by to tell me that mom is in danger of being removed from this nursing home (it is a high-rent beautiful facility) because of money mixups. Tells me I have to go straighten it out. When I went to hug Eeyore in the cousinly way, she thrust her arms straight behind her. What does that tell you?

First person I talked to said it would be straightened out. Second person said no problems, it will straighten itself out. Etc. Nothing to worry about.

When I saw my mother she didn't know who I was at first. Then she did and immediately said, "Go get me $500 in small bills."

I asked how I was supposed to get moneyf rom her account.

"Not my account. YOUR account." I said Ok and went home.

She keeps calling me and Eeyore to take her shopping because she needs clthes. They toldme they take her shopping (even tho it's against policy) and she has $400 worth of new clothes in the last few months and her closet won't hold anymore. She eats, naps after each meal, is well cared for and put up with.

End of report.

Kiwonk
01-24-2004, 01:41 AM
I finished Shutter Island. It was good, but not quite as good as Mystic River by the same author. Then I also finished In Her Shoes which was good, but again not as good as Good In Bed also by Jennifer Weiner. Seems to be the rule. Either that or I have inflated expectations when reading a book by an author that I have already read and liked. I think it's a rule too. I tried to read a collection of essays by the author of Poisonwood Bible (which I thought was amazing), but I couldn't even finish them, they were so tedious. On the other hand, I'm reading the 5th Harry Potter right now, and it is just as entertaining as all the rest.


When I went to hug Eeyore in the cousinly way, she thrust her arms straight behind her. What does that tell you?
She loves you THISSSSSS much! You know how little kids spread their arms so wide to tell you about something soooo big, that they practically meet behind their back?
Or she's terrified of you.

Sounds like your mother just wants attention (no big surprise, I'm sure).

Kiwi

PainterWoman
01-24-2004, 03:06 AM
Baggz... you have a large and lovely spirit to really be happy for SIL. I'd be green with envy myself.... Thinner AND going on a cruise. HMMMMMMPH!

Cherry-- have you read Artist's Way? I remember how twinge-y I felt when I read her comment that librarians and book-sellers are almost always writer wannabees... That really creative people often spend YEARS hovering "near" what they want to be doing. I can't tell whether I really wanted to be a writer, illustrator, or just hear really great stories... since I switched from librarian to therapist!!! I'll go check out fmwriter.

Cowp: My condolences on bizarre situation with Mum, Nursing Home, Shopping and Eeyore. Sounds like an extremely challenging situation. Maybe you can get Mom to watch Malcolm in the Middle so she can sing along with Malcolm: You're not the boss of me..... :devil: Maybe she can persuade the nurses or somebone to give her $500 in small bills. Is she in a gang?

Happy weekend.

Kiwonk
01-24-2004, 01:32 PM
That really creative people often spend YEARS hovering "near" what they want to be doing. I can't tell whether I really wanted to be a writer, illustrator, or just hear really great stories... since I switched from librarian to therapist!!!
Lot of truth in that, I'm sure (speaking for myself).

Interesting, I hadn't thought of being a therapist as a good way to hear stories, but I can imagine. Do you ever get tempted to write a story or something about some of the more bizarre ones? Must be hard sometimes to keep things confidential.

Kiwi

PainterWoman
01-24-2004, 07:33 PM
Kiwonk... Truths are definitely stranger than fiction! There are lots of family histories that would make Trollope, Dickens, Binchy and even Dominic Dunne look like people with no imagination whatsoever! And the clients who come into my office look so normal and plain! Instead of wanting to write (or re-write) their stories, I'm doing more and more teaching of journaling and writing so that people can take charge of their OWN stories and see the humor, valor and triumph in themselves.

Cowpernia
01-25-2004, 06:07 AM
Y'all. I have a headache. I mean I am on the verge of a migraine. I am burning up hot and depressed and oppressed and unpressed. I am wrinkled. On the other hand, we have a woman in town who has facelifts just whenever she's bored and she looks like a burn victim.

My boss has three boys. The oldest, 17, is the best looking kid in town. Tall, muscled, lean, beautiful shinny hair, great complexion, shy smile, and gorgeous face. He has been taught by his dad how to fix things and he is very confident in that area. He worked the last two summers and has been working with us after school so he has money saved. He has a nice truck that they gave him.

Now, in 11th grade, he has left home. He no longer works with us. I don't think he dropped out of school but I don't know where he is. The only person in the office, besides him, who might know won't say. It is driving me crazy.

I know he was rebellious and girls were chasing him (bad bad girls ... one girl who I knew when she was in grammar school and her mom was bragging she had a boy friend). Having a boy about the same age and caring about this boy, my boss' boy, myself, I reallllly want to know where he is, how he's supporting himself, what went wrong. But I have no way to find out. This isn't fair, is it?

But I have this philosphy. These people, while they are church members, do not attend church. I believe that kids who are dragged to church are far less likely to go this way. I want to drag DS to church and you know what ??? I don't like church. Well, I don't like most churches. I llike the one in the next town a lot, but it's so far. I don't like Sunday School. To me, Sunday School is self-commitment to an hour of being trapped with somebody (always at least one) personwho has insane ideas about something and who won't shut up. The last time I went to Sunday School, for example, the nice lady next to me explained that she won't have a cell phone because that's how they're going to find you after the Rapture. This kind of stuff scares me and makes me migrainey.

Cherry, help me with my novel. Here is my question of the day: I write sparsely, tightly, skimpily. This does not produce many words. How many words does a novel have to have? I'm guessing I'm headed to 20,000 and I already want to take one chapter out.

I just read an interview with Terry McMillan. She was sued by an ex boyfriend because, he claimed, she used him in a novel. She won. She says, "The bottom line is I have a right. I have a right to do what I want to do with information and my life experiences. I have a right, and I'm not going to be bullied."

My next novel, "Life with the cows" will be hard to cast in Hollywood. Not enough plump stars. I will be played by Julia Roberts with a thick band of foam rubber tied around her butt.

Lohani
01-25-2004, 01:09 PM
write a novella.

Kiwonk
01-25-2004, 02:09 PM
Well, interesting theory, deary (I'm a poet!). I'd agree that belonging to a church and not going is definitely a sign of lack of commitment to your responsibilities, which might translate pretty directly to teaching your kids not to follow through on theirs. Of course, then there are people like me, who don't go to church, not because they don't like church, but because they actively disagree with the tenets. I'm thoroughly committed to not going to church. I take it all too seriously and start arguing theological points in my head and get all stressed out. Church and wonkiness don't work well together.

I'm sure you will find the right balance for your novel (or novella). Less is more Less is more Less is more :write:

I have nothing to say. :comp: Can you tell? Blah blah blah, rant rave rant rave. I have written a silly diaryland entry (http://kiwi-kath.diaryland.com) lampooning Pres. Dubya, should anyone want a cheap laugh.

Kiwi

PainterWoman
01-25-2004, 07:24 PM
Cowie:
Allegedly the average mystery novel is between 50,000 & 65,000 words. So maybe you can ditch your first chapter!

I've been a church attender and a church not-attender. I think that if you develop your own moral/ethical beliefs and practice them (without hypocracy) and teach them to your children (without hypocracy) that will take care of most pitfalls... but children are independent critters and sometimes they have the "right" to go off and learn from their own mistakes.

Can you trump up some more handyman jobs and inquire into the whereabouts of nice-young man boss's son? (When being direct doesn't work, be sneaky is what my father taught ME!!! And His g.father was a quaker hotshot... (Can you even HAVE quaker hotshots? Anyway, he travelled back and forth from England to NY promoting the FAITH)

OK all, lets have a fantasy discussion... who would you want to play YOU in Cowpernia's novel made into a movie??

They'd probably want to cast Shelley Winters for me... (pretty when young, but let herself go.... and she's dead, isn't she?) Maybe Drew Barrymore or Reese Witherspoon... I'd like to be brave enough to let people know that inside my size 20+ body is a perky smart girl with attitude! Candace Bergen?

Cowpernia
01-25-2004, 07:40 PM
If we can have actresses who are no longer living play us, then I want Audrey Hepburn.

I think we should all have beautiful thin tall women. Hollywood is full of them. They'll work cheap.

Lohani
01-25-2004, 08:17 PM
It isn't because parents take their kids to church, per se. It is because they take them SOMEWHERE. If they took the kid skiing on Sunday morning, or to play tennis the result would be the same. You never know what goes on in other people's houses. Lots of kids who look very well tended are ignored.

Conversely, many people who look ignored are very well cared for.

Kiwi, I always enjoy Dubya humor...except it isn't very funny anymore, is it? I feel about this the way you feel in church(except that one time behind the alter). It infuriates me so much that I have a hard time talking about it casually. He's going to be re-elected and there is nothing I can do.

We're supposed to have off from school tomorrow. Four to six inches.....I hate to count on it but I've just had a cup of coffee and plan to stay up and do wash tonight. This is my last week of working. Can't wait to return to my TV/computer/reading schedule.

Peaches, DD got Breakfast at Tiffany's, a novella, for Christmas. It was short but it did ok for itself. It is better to write a good short book than it is to write a long boring book. Maybe you could put going to Tiffany's with MOI in your cow novel. I will sue, of course, but it will be nice to be included.


Painty, I have to think of who would play me. What does " let yourself go" mean? I don't think there is that much choice in all of this. Five or six years ago, my cousin and her husband came to visit. I hadn't seen them for 25 years. I was quite a babe at 20 and, obviously, the object of some creepy thoughts in his head. When he saw me he was outwardly shocked and disappointed that I had gotten older. He said it about 10 times that night.

I know a number of women who live their lives as an apology to the world because they had the audacity to age. What is the alternative? I'll bet that no one who knows you would be surprised that you are perky and smart. You just aren't a girl anymore. That's the way it's supposed to be. For myself, it's my daughter's turn. It doesn't mean I wouldn't like to lose 20 lbs...but I'm under no illusion that thin=young. That's gone.

Enough...got to go put this coffee to use. L

Cowpernia
01-25-2004, 08:43 PM
I'm sure not saying that church goers are better at teaching ethics than non-goers. But there's more to church than ethics. It's a huge social system, complete with things to do, youth leaders for class, a different youth leader for choir, people of all ages some of whom actually care about others, and the kid hears something repeatedly. A lot of kids hear nothing about life and how to live it. Plus .. they may be more likely to listen to another adult when things aren't going well instead of dull old mom and dad.

Some of the most decent people I know never go to church. That's not the point. The point IS that kids need more adults and more things to do and church is a likely place to find all that without involving drugs.

PainterWoman
01-26-2004, 01:21 AM
One of the things that angers me really really fast is parents ignoring their children. And then they wonder why counselors and teachers, and--for that matter, creepy perverts -- get so much response from their kids. KIDS JUST WANT TO BE APPRECIATED... and don't always have the judgment to understand another's motives.

Lohani-- I did NOT mean aging.... I think aging is appropriate (not to mention unavoidable.... You've made me think. Streep and Curtis are aging rather well, and the Barbara Walters and the Queen Mum, RIP, bless her heart....

but only a few weeks ago I saw some ancient movie in which Shelley Winters had a starring role... and she was a slender knockout.... What I meant is that SHE GOT FAT. Katherine Hepburn didn't get fat....

Damn. I wish I hadn't "gotten fat..." even if it did happen 30 years ago....

Happy laundry and snow days for those who get them. We'll have a norther blow in tomorros around noon... but it will only get to the 40's.... :o

SugP
01-26-2004, 04:15 AM
That really creative people often spend YEARS hovering "near" what they want to be doing.

Very true. But what do you do if you feel like your environment is stifling your creativity and it's not in your power to change that environment?

That's disturbing about that boy, Peachy. There must be some way to find out where he's at.

I've had teachers tell me they know which kids are being ignored at home because those kids either want to be hugged all the time, by anyone, or they talk *non-stop*. I'm talking little kids here, not teenagers. Stll three years away from having a teenager.

Hmm. Who should play me? Need to think more. Doris Day comes to mind. She could wear my yellow stretch pants.

Lohani
01-26-2004, 04:23 PM
I hate to be on topic, but I exercised this morning. Can you believe it? I also ate a healthy breakfast. I felt like it. Do you think I'm sick?

I did have off today. I haven't accomplished anything, yet. But last night I was a wonder. I've been scouring the internet to find a duplicate of the clock SIL got me for Christmas. It crashed onto the kitchen floor this morning. She spent more than I spent on her. But she owes me because she comes with those other 7 SILs who are greater PITAs than she.

Sugar, I don't think teenagers are any different than little kids. They show it when they are neglected. It has been pretty predictible who has gone off track among DD's friends. We'll see if that is true of the boys, too.

Peaches, what I meant by my remark was that time is what is important. People who take their kids to church spend all of Sunday morning together. I'm Catholic so we don't really have the experience of having anyone in a youth group etc. Remember? This religion doesn't encourage enthusiastic participation. All you need is the body and the envelope. I would like to add that I think it means that they will turn out ok....not that they won't give us a hard time. Having difficult teenagers doesn't mean they aren't going to turn out fine.

It was very hard to deal with my mom during her illness. But I had the advantage of a whole pack of cousins and aunts whose mothers had gone the same way. It made it easier to set boundaries. Eeyore probably entered the scene thinking that YOU were the ungrateful neglectful child. These efforts to draw you back in are an admission that it isn't as easy as he originally thought. Wouldn't it be nice if instead of freezing up on you, he could admit to you that it is too much for him?

Painty, I see what you mean about Shelly Winters. But I think there is a real danger in judging any woman by her weight. It leads us to judge ourselves by our weight. Don't you know lots of women who are heavier than you but have no shame about it?

Can you imagine...no shame where weight and food is concerned??????

Ok, babes. I'm going to go be productive. bye

Cowpernia
01-26-2004, 04:41 PM
Eeyore is a girl cousin. I feel sick. I feel rundown. I eat well. I do stretching exercises. I came early. I, I, I.

Cowpernia
01-26-2004, 04:41 PM
home. I came home early.

SugP
01-26-2004, 05:24 PM
Poor Peaches.

Computer is making weird couging noises. We thought it was about to bit the dust. May still be. If you don't hear from me for a while you'll know I've crashed and burned.

Just to throw everyone for a loop: I exercised yesterday. Pilates and weights. I have a cold.

PainterWoman
01-26-2004, 06:23 PM
Way to go those of you who exercised...... I don't know anybody heavier than me without shame. hanging around the wrong people? Lohani, you are right, though. You caught me being harsh towards myself! (Usually I notice first....)
Ach. I gotta go back to the office. Hope I can be helpful to someone, I sure haven't been helpful to myself today. :-(

Wabby
01-26-2004, 07:40 PM
Whoa! It's so deep around here lately.

I'm from the camp who thinks time spent with your kids counts the most. It can be time taking them to church, or time spent working on a car, or time eating together or whatever. The most important thing they need is your interest in their lives. Nothing is more painful to a kid than being ignored.

Gotta go. DD is coming by the office to talk. This breaking up is hard to do is even hard for the mother of the break up girl.

Kiwonk
01-26-2004, 10:06 PM
I hate to be on topic, but I exercised this morning. Can you believe it? I also ate a healthy breakfast. I felt like it. Do you think I'm sick?
It's too early too tell. Please repeat this experiment at least 4x/week for 6 weeks and then I'll let you know the results of our study.

Re: good kids/bad kids/neglect/etc. You're all quite right. Because of course you are all wonderful parents.

Do you think there is something specifically wrong with someone who tends to leave out the verbs in sentences? Because that's what I do all the time -- I'll be typing along and read what I wrote and I've left out about 1 verb in every sentence. Do you think it means I prefer not to DO anything, maybe? Of course TO BE is TO DO, isn't it? Or is that DO BE DO BE DO?

Kiwi

Lohani
01-26-2004, 11:23 PM
Wabby, You forgot the "er"

Lohani
01-26-2004, 11:36 PM
Kiwi, it's "Do be a Do-Bee" remember Romper Room. I was too old for it, but my little brother watched daily. Miss Connie knew exactly how people should live their lives. She was CERTAIN to put verbs in her sentences. She would have realized immediately that male cousins would never be so judgemental nor so willing to help as to get involved in the Mere de La Peche debacle. She knew that daughters are far more resilient than mothers because they are living through their breakups without menopause in the mix. She would have reassured Painty that we all have Shelley Winters days once in a while. She probably even knows where Kiwi went to HS, because I realize that I don't know. She would fix Sugar's puter and baby sit while she tackled her dreams.
Miss Connie was a wonderful Romper Room Lady.

Cowpernia
01-27-2004, 12:30 AM
Forgot the "er?" Whoaer? Deeper? Wabbyer?

I am taken aback that you all seem to feel entitled to have opinions of your own.

Or to Kiwi:

I am taken aback that you all entitled to opinions of your own.

Furthermore:

Are you members of the Red Hat Society yet?

And:

I'm scratching the novella. Actually, it's already a short story and I like it fine like that. I need a new idea. Did you know I once worked in a stripper joint? I could place a bunch of overweight cow-like strippers on the stage ....

Blah

Lohani
01-27-2004, 08:21 AM
1. Breaking up is hard"er" for our Wabby than for her DD. They bounce back better than we do.
2. I don't have school again today. There isn't even 1 inch out there. It is promising to snow later. Yesterday, the newsman had the ruler out measured the snow...this was full out blizzard coverage...it measured 2.5 inches. Thank G-d I live in a place where the blizzards are imaginary events used to sell comercials on news programs.
3. Yes, we all knew about the strip joint. Wasn't it called, "The Third Udder?"
Demi Moore will play me in that movie.
4. I think I'll go back to bed.
bye

Cowpernia
01-27-2004, 08:27 AM
The Olson twins will play Sugar and me.

SugP
01-27-2004, 09:25 AM
The Olson twins will play Sugar and me.

Yes! Ashley is just soooooo me!!!

I was at the thyroid doctor today and it seems that my thyroid gland has gone on vacation. It's not there any more. Not even a little bit. How disconcerting. Where did it go? Maybe that's why I'm so weird.

Parent/teacher conference about ds10 this afternoon. He's fine. We're not expecting trouble.

Bagzz
01-27-2004, 09:59 AM
IT'S MY PROBLEM FREEEEEEE---PHILOSOPY!!!!!!I am SO enjoying your discussions!!!! Paintycow---you have a lovely touch with this herd!!!---it is good to have you back!!!---ohhhhhhhh-----i LOVE this colour!!!! ANYway---a few things i will comment on!!!----HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA TO NEW JERSEY ---cancelling school with a few inches of snow---KIWONKERS!!! let us tell them what a snowstorm really is----if you saw Stephen King's Storm of the Century---we have those every few weeks up here and still have to wonder if school may be cancelled---next storm i will record on my camera and get Kiwi to figure out how to send the files!!!!-----ohhhhhhhhhh wabbalicious!!!!!-----i know JUST how you feel---when dd19 had "breakups" I was devastated and sooooooooo sad for both parties-----she eventually got back with the guy she is with at university and i am very happy for them----but i live in fear of another catastrophe!!!! our hearts are interconnected for surelohani-lush!!! i am so pleased that you may be taking a break from school---you are making me look bad----every time i go into ds's school ,I run out with glee----glad to have escaped the melee!!!!i feel like a cantakerous old hag!!!! but HAPPY to be heading to Timmy's for my coffee and back to my warrrrrrrrm house----{minus thirty winds today---and it has been very windy}very sadly we have FOUR missing fisherpeople {one is a woman}----they were out in this terrible cold weather and returning from campobello island {your president Roosevelt's summer retreat} and have not been heard from for days------they had survival suits but that would not be much help in these conditions---they said the windchill on the water was minus fifty------------------depressingokay----i have to do some work,SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO let me just say that i would like MiMi from the Drew Carey Show to play ME,cause then i could say WHATever I like,and that is very important to MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!ahahahahaha :s:

Wabby
01-27-2004, 12:48 PM
I love Mimi! She was one of my most favorite TV characters. I can't think of anyone to play me. You choose.

You need to take the rest of you on vacation with your thyroid, Sugar. You'd feel much better. I, too, am a creative soul stifled by my present circumstance. If you figure a way to be creative, and yet get all the mundane things in life taken care of, let me know.

I've been awake since 3 am this morning. :tired: I did not solve all my problems while mulling them over all night long. I did, however, manage to get a roast cooking in the crockpot, and a load of laundry folded. What could I do if I skipped sleeping altogether?

My friend has invited me to go to the symphony on friday evening. No DH's allowed.

That's so sad about the fishermen, Bagzie. We had 2 ppl who were on the beach clamming washed out to sea. Isn't that bizarre? Who would think that clamming is life threatening?

I'll be back. I'm all a-lone and lonely today here at work.

Lohani
01-27-2004, 01:44 PM
Wabby, I'm here to entertain you. I am awake. I'm trying to get motivated to do something.

Who could play you? We'll need a blondie type with reasonable boobs. I think you have to go with Renee Z.

I have resolved to turn my insomnia into productivity, too. How is your darling DD????? She probably slept fine last night. It is awful, isn't it?

I'm going to go do the following:
1. drink coffee
2. watch some tv
3. continue reading while watching TV....multitasking is the hallmark of a good housewife.

bye

Bagzz
01-27-2004, 01:54 PM
i can't sleep either,but i am afraid if i get up and do things i will be exhausted all day,TAKE a NAP and repeat the cycle--------HOW DO YOU SOLVE THIS ONE???

Lohani
01-27-2004, 02:22 PM
Coffee. Lots of coffee. It is funny that since I've been working and CAN'T nap, I haven't had insomnia. I am belting down the coffee right now. Big plans.

I hate stories of people going out fishing and never coming back or going crabbing and never coming back. Lately, I've heard a lot of stories like that...or maybe I'm listening more now that the DD will soon be driving. It is scary once your kids have independent mobility.

My coffee is kicking in. I'm going to go address the laundry then my room. I'll be back. L

Wabby
01-27-2004, 04:01 PM
Renee Z. Too young. Too blonde. What about Goldie Hawn? At least the age is more reasonable.

DD is what woke me up at 3 am. She gets home from work around then. Can you believe I let my little girl work as a bartender until those hours? The worse thing about the break up is that the BF is the step son of the bar owners, so she still has to see him.

I'm going to go address the laundry Don't mail it to me. I have plenty already.

Bagzie, set the timer for 20 minutes. A short nap won't hurt.

Kiwonk
01-27-2004, 07:22 PM
I'm going to go address the laundry then my room.
Hellooooooooo Laundry :twirly: (please use Norton's voice for this)

I had no idea you used to be a stripper, Peachie :s: Was your stage name
La Peche? I do like the idea of renaming your mother La Mere de La Peche. That would really drive her nuts.

I think Wabbit could be played by Goldie Hawn. Although I was thinking of Liza Minelli, back when she was younger and sexy (although she has certainly turned into a crazy old cow, hasn't she?). Sadly I see myself as Peggy Lipton in "Mod Squad" -- I do live in the past, don't I?

Bagz doesn't remind me the least bit of Mimi, but hey, it's your fantasy, dear. Demi Moore is perfect for Lush. Audrey Hepburn is good for Peaches, although if you want a live actress, how about Winona Ryder?

I'll bet if I had a job I could manage to sleep at a somewhat reasonable hour too. I heard on TV the other day that you need at least 6 hours of sleep before your brain starts to benefit from it. I think that says everything about my life. I sleep in 3-4 hour spurts, therefore my brain is just dying on the vine and it shows.

Oh, yeah, we're too young for the Red Hats, dear. Well, some of us.:sssh:

Kiwi

Cowpernia
01-27-2004, 08:23 PM
Guesssss what???????GUESSSSSSS!

I have been notified by an online magazine (one of the BEST ONES) that a story I wrote will be in the March issue.

I don't want to say here because I'm using another name. I was NOT a stripper. I was a waitress. but if you email me, I'll telllll you. YAY YAY

Bagzz
01-27-2004, 11:45 PM
that is sooooooooooooooooo exciting peachpie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MAJOR CONGRATULATIONS!!!!----SEND US AN EMAIL TELLING US WHERE TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU GET PAID???WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO------MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Cowpernia
01-28-2004, 12:06 AM
No money is involved. Just satisfaction. I wanted to share this with Cherrie and Paintie but don't have their emails. So if they want to know, they got to ask.

Cherry Cow
01-28-2004, 01:43 AM
I wanna know! I wanna know!

SugP
01-28-2004, 06:01 AM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! You clever thing you.

Still thinking about Kiwi's brain dying on the vine and wondering how shriveled mine is. Insomnia rules.

Lohani
01-28-2004, 07:19 AM
Yipee!!!!!!!!!

Our Peaches prevails. Yes!!! I want to know where. Did they give you a time? This is very exciting. PLUS we all get to hear the true story of your stripper days. I can't wait.

Cowpernia
01-28-2004, 08:08 AM
Cherry, I don't have your email address. Maybe Kiwi will tell me or you or something the others address.

Bagzz
01-28-2004, 09:24 AM
i am trying to upload a picture of the grouchy cat---she is STILL being mean to the new kitty Boffo-------does anyone know how long she will continue to be a serious Bi#$h??????-------------i await more news on peachers delight!!!today i am doing flylady's fifteen minutes work,fifteen PLAY!!!!----the time has rung---see ya

Bagzz
01-28-2004, 09:25 AM
stupid picture didn't load------i am a computer BUM

PainterWoman
01-28-2004, 12:18 PM
Congrats to the author amongst us... Creme de la creme avec des peches!!!
I never worked in a strip joint. I WAS Posture Queen in the 9th grade. And that cute, smart alecky Ricky Shroeder looked at the placque they made (In wood shop) and asked if it said PASTURE QUEEN.
Apparently, I was destined for the herd from the beginning.....

I stayed OP... but no exercise. It was a small SLOW step in a better direction.
I'm hoping to have a big loss because I'm abstaining from sugar.... (not SugP)... but the refined kind... Oh, dear, I'm getting my feet (hooves?) in my mouth.
Over and out.

Cowpernia
01-28-2004, 12:34 PM
I want to see the kitty. I want a choco shake. How come, after all these years, you guys don't know what I did while you were being normal? I am fighting turrets' syndrome. I am so mad I want to swear. I want to get drunk. Cherry's word: ediot. Where is Cherry's email address?

Wabby
01-28-2004, 01:33 PM
Our Peach is clever! Congrats you lovely, you! I can't wait to read it! Now what did your ediot do?

Now, I must tell you what I'm p*ssed about today ---- Dearest Grandpa Jim is 90 years old. His only income is $600 a month social security. He doesn't have any assets, unless you want to count all the junk he has stacked around his delapidated mobile home (which isn't his, it's ours). The last 10 years he has spent creatively switching his credit card account balances from one new credit card to another. He receives, conservatively, at least a dozen credit card bills every month. His house of cards has collapsed and he is going to claim bankruptcy. I would feel sorry for the credit companies, but hey, I think that they prey on old ppl, with the idea that they will end up with their estate when they die, but the jokes on them w/ Grandpa Jim, because he doesn't have an estate. Now here is the part I'm p*ssed about - the credit card companies are now calling ME. I got 2 calls just this morning before I left for work. They told me basically, too bad, they are going to continue to call until they get paid. I'm nutz enough without this. This is just one more reason why I'm also p*ssed at his 7 other children, because none of them help him or visit him. One sil did send him $500 for his bankruptcy lawyer, we gave him the other half. It's not cheap to go broke.

Between this and the DD's love life, and the DS's love life, and everybody moving back home, along w/ their little dog, I'm ready to check into the nut house. Whaaaaaaa:stress:

Lohani
01-28-2004, 01:48 PM
Poor Wabby,
Oh that we could all be orphaned only children...alas, we have to learn to act like them. It is against the law for creditors to call you when you don't owe them money. Anyway, don't you have caller ID? Don't you have block? It is 2004. I'm sure Grandpa Jim would be HAPPY to give you the cash to pay for these things EVERY MONTH so you won't have to be hounded by HIS creditors. Ach.

Peaches, that ediot is probably jealous because you are the better writer. I'll smite your ediot if it would make you feel better. But don't be there when it happens because it is somewhat messy.

It is an undisputed portion of family lore that you lived an undesirable life while I was being inducted into the Junior League. I am sure your bag and shoes never matched. I don't need the details. Haven't you hurt us all enough?

I'm cleaning my room on my 3rd snow day this week. My life will be perfect by the time they notice that there isn't any snow on the ground. bye

Kiwonk
01-28-2004, 04:48 PM
Haha, I didn't really think you were a stripper. You're a good girl.. and
SO SMART AND TALENTED!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!
:bravo: :cp: :bravo: :cb: :bravo: :dancer: :grouphug:

Wabby
01-28-2004, 05:29 PM
OK. I'm calmer now. I talked to a friend who works at a financial institution. She said as soon as Grandpa Jim files his bankruptcy papers, they can't call anymore. He's doing it today, so collection calls should stop within a couple weeks. Old folks are so frustrating. They just won't behave.

My theory on Peachers ediot is that said ediot is intimidated by the Peach, because she's so smart. Isn't that what Lush just said???

So far, we only have 6 bunco girls going to the garden show, not the whole group. Oh well. We will have so much fun everyone else will be jealous.

PainterWoman
01-29-2004, 12:26 AM
Cowpernia... I had to laugh... So glad you contained your outburst related to Turrets syndrome... I'd like to get Mansion's syndrome... No towers but lots of foyers.... :)

Wabby-- So sorry that Grandpa is YOUR burden and that so few of the plausible helpers are being helpful. Many times I've shuddered with relief at being the only of parents who lived fast and died young. (It wasn't fun for a while, there.... but you are the second person I know with a codger in a trailer.....not fun.)

Lohani-- I wanted to be invited to Jr. League... Didn't live on the right side of the highway, or have a hubby #1 who made enough money, or join the right club, or something.... I would have flunked the shoes and bag test, anyway. Those were my chasing a little baby AND hosting public library story hour days....

Any of you doing South Beach? I heard the MD interviewed on NPR today;.. might have to give in and buy one more diet book.... It seemed to have something to do with food combining and segretating.... (maybe like keeping Kosher, even) Fats OR carbs, never both. But I only heard a little bit....

Lohani
01-29-2004, 07:47 AM
Painty, I just browsed the South Beach section. Interesting. I've been exercising in the AM for the past few days. Believe it or not, I'm not thin yet. I have no confidence in my ability to eat reasonably anymore. I rarely make it though a day. I will try the planned snack system and see if that works. Today I'll take nuts for an AM snack. Maybe that will help.

I've been looking around the ezine which has accepted our GoGo girl's story. It's wonderful. I was up late reading.

I only have two more days of steady work..yeah!!!!!

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 08:12 AM
Painty, I'll answer you here. I am in Florida. No one else is in Florida. I have the whole place to myself.

SugP
01-29-2004, 10:32 AM
I exercised. Crunch Pick Your Spot Pilates for Belly, Butt and Thighs. Whoever thought up that name should have to do extra push-ups and go without dinner. Dh says my butt is looking smaller and perkier. I will perservere.

Peachy - whatever your ediot did, you must rise above it. What kind of food do they serve in a strip joint? I worked at an ice cream store and a golf club. And a photo lab. And a publishing company. And just look where it got me. :dizzy:

We have snow. Snowman has been built. Expecting another blizzard tonight. Mil gave me her old cross-country skis and boots. Now THAT'S good exercise.

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 11:01 AM
Darling little sweetie pie Sugar, it was bar. No food. Drinks. Alcohol. Nothing I knew anything about. I was not good there.

We have a new ediot. He used to be a friend when he was a reporter for the radio. Now .. maybe it's because he's a guy .. he seems to alwaaaays have a better idea. I feel that everything I say is met with "I have a better idea." I feel that my thoughts are valueless. Actually, I just don't get along with people who are bossy. I used to have an editor who was WONDERFUL and I miss him so much. He died. He would say he liked stuff and he would talk and listen and share and act like he was a team member. These non-experienced people my boss hires don't do that. They seem to have this thought: "Now that I am an editor, I am superior to reporters and, quite naturally, always have better ideas."

So, I'm not talking to him which is awkward but everrrything I say is dismissed so why would I want to?

I had a story this week that he wanted changed and I disagreed with him. He said, "I'm not going to argue with you about this." And I said, "Argue is harsh word. We are discussing. I should be able to come in here and tell you what I think." And he said, "Yes, I want you to."

So I changed the d***** story and he said, "You did a good job" which TO ME means, "I did a good job of making you change the story." I want him to be my first editor and tell me I do a good job on what I do, not on what he does.

Besides, one time that I know of in the past, this guy lied to me with no good reason behind it. And I remember that and don't trust him. Just a little thing but I remember. I had been trying to talk to him about something, no big deal, and he was on my caller id so I know he called. But he called too late but I didn't call back. Next time I saw him he said, "I would've called you but I didn't have you number." I just said, "It's in the book" and let it go. SEEEE, I just don't know how to act around thse people. My first editor knew and told me that I, like some other people, work better if left alone. This one wants control of it all. I could go on. I will spare you.

SugP
01-29-2004, 12:25 PM
Oh THAT ediot. Poor you. Shouldn't you have the freedom to write any way you want as long as you get your point across? He sounds full of himself. :blah:

Back in the days when I used to imbibe, my favouritest drink was a Bloody Caesar. Gotta love that celery stick. :hat:

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 01:55 PM
Hi Sugar. All you other heathens and Catholics should post now. Go. Do it.

SugP
01-29-2004, 02:42 PM
According to belief.net I'm a Universal Unitarian Humanist. Or something. I forget. Kiwi knows. What were we again, Kiwi?

Bagzz
01-29-2004, 02:53 PM
catholic reporting------------------got to pick up ds but came here for entertainmen,got some and now i am leaving------------glad that Lo-arse-ee is going to be here for awhile----now that the tip is all cleaned up=-----DO YOU GET PAID FOR THESE THREE SNOW DAYS????IF SO---------AWESOME

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 03:00 PM
Thank you Bagzie.

Sugar, the difference between you and Kiwi is this:

Church and religion

When Kiwi reads that, her face will turn purple while you continue looking like Mary Kate Olson.

Wabby
01-29-2004, 05:21 PM
Heathen checking in here. :devil: Did you notice that Bagz was checking in for entertain-men? She says she got some. :o

Somebody changed my radio station to Dr. Laura. Bleh! What a horrible woman. What silly ppl who call asking for her nasty advice. What an amazing country in which a woman like her can have a successful radio show and actually make lots of money doing it.

Cowper, your ediot's main problem is that he is a man. They like to be bossy. DH tries to boss me at work sometimes, but I can always make him back down. He knows he could get cut off. I guess you can't hold that over your ediot.

Wow, Sugar. Smaller and perkier? Way to go! I never stick with exercise long enough to actually see any results. I do have firmer biceps, but I'd trade them for perkier buns any day. What's in a Bloody Caesar?

I'm having a Painty Shelley Winters day. I feel old and frumpy. Have you seen cute little Sally Struthers lately? She played the Grandma on a sit com I was watching. I could play the Grandma. I could be a Grandma. Geez. That's a scary thought.

Wabby
01-29-2004, 05:27 PM
I'm not saying that you're old and frumpy, Painty. Only that I sympathize with your identifying with Shelley. Of course, neither of us are really old and frumpy. We're sweet young things who just temporarily feel old and frumpy. Or maybe you're over it by now.

I've been saying dumb things lately. Our neighbors are finally getting married after 6 years of living together. Know what I blurted out? "About time he finally got around to asking!" dumb. dumb. dumb. Where did that come from? Geez. I have such social skills.

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 06:01 PM
many years ago, like 8 or 10, the ediot asked me out. I told him that I understood he was going with Jane (as in Doe). He said no. Well, he just married her this month so I guess I was right. No, I can't threaten to cut him off. Yuck. Ick. Blah.

I would like entertainmen also.

Cowpernia
01-29-2004, 06:03 PM
By the way, I'm so impressed that Lohani was reading that zine. Did you notice the part where they lost all the submissions except mine?

Lohani
01-29-2004, 11:28 PM
It may shock you to know that tact is not my strong point. I am always saying the wrong thing.

It is good you didn't have an interest in him because we all know that men who act that way do so to hide sexual inadequacy.

Are you feeling pressure about your bio????? Some of them are very well done. Please don't say...Peaches is somewhere in Floridy contemplating the universe.....
We need to make you sound hard boiled...like a waitress in a strip joint.

Tomorrow is my last day!!!!!!
Tomorrow is my last day!!!!!!
Tomorrow is my last day!!!!!!
Tomorrow is my last day!!!!!!
Tomorrow is my last day!!!!!!

Bagzz
01-29-2004, 11:44 PM
last Day Last Day !!!! Yay Yay Yay!!!! Start A New Thread For Us And Make Us Loose Weight And Excercise Like Everyone Else Here In ****'s Half Acre

Cowpernia
01-30-2004, 08:04 AM
I have submitted my bio. It will make you want to meet me.

PainterWoman
01-31-2004, 04:31 AM
I seem to be having a Ronald Reagan day... that is short term memory loss.... Have forgotten I'm fat, but also don't know what Lohani means about her last day... last day at what? And I thought it was peaches whose submission was not deleted... Cowpernia... are you submitting, too?

I like the idea of entertainmen, also.

Have any of you come across the self-help book called RADICAL HONESTY? I love how it allows for tact, AND ENCOURAGES US TO CONFRONT OTHER PEOPLE'S lies.... I think truth really will set us free!!! Even eeejit ediots.

Wabby... I disrespect Dr. Laura, too. I even kept a copy of the letter to the editor I wrote and the paper published after she was rude to her hostess when she came to speak to the Jewish Women's Center a few years ago. What bothers me is the bad name she gives other professional advice givers!

TGIF ya'll... have a great weekend... Safe eating during the SuperBowl.

Kiwonk
01-31-2004, 01:46 PM
Come on over to the South Pasture, Painty, it'll clear your head ;)

I'm always amazed at how a jerk like Dr. Laura has followers and people who seem to respect her. I wonder how the people feel who call in with heartfelt problems only to be yelled at and told they shouldn't have gotten themselves in the situation they're in. Nice.

Kiwi