Weight Loss Support - Over 50 And Getting Healthy #4

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09-03-2003, 02:25 PM
Welcome to our little corner of the world.
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We like to keep an upbeat attitude; Try to find some humor in each day.
Focus on your plan. Be honest; Don't blame other people and other things when we hit a bump in the road; ... And we DO all hit them at some time.
Remember, you have the power to make things happen in your life, to make some changes. Remember also, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."
Please join us in our journey to weight loss and good health.

09-03-2003, 02:39 PM
We were getting kinda full, so thought I'd start a new one.

I don't really have a whole lot to say today.

I skipped work today. Had a hard time sleeping last night. Was so very tired when I got up to exercise before work, I couldn't make myself do it. Was up about an hour and only had enough gumption to SIT, so I called work and took a day off with no pay. I went back to bed about 5:45 AM and finally fell asleep and slept till almost 10 AM!!
I've just GOT to do something about this waking up all the time and not being able to sleep the night through.
Blasted Drs can't agree on anything either! One gives you Ambien to take, and another says not to take it because it will make you so you can NEVER sleep normally.
As one of my sons reminds me every so often, " IT SUCKS TO GET OLD!"

I heard that there was a homeopathic place in town, and I'm going to go talk to them if there is. See if they have something safe.

It's 84 degrees here right now. Gonna go see if that sunshine has humidity with it. If not, I'm going out and sit in my swing and read.

Everybody have a great day.

09-03-2003, 05:55 PM
Willow, you must have needed that sleep. My father always said that your body will tell YOU what it needs not visa versa, and he nearly always spoke good sense (except when I was a teenager and he was a damn fool and never spoke anything but rubbish but he got wiser as I got older - or so it seemed at the time). Summer is over for us too, Sue. I put the electric blanket on for the first time last night though I wouldn't put bets on that I am the only on in the UK to do so because I am quick to feel the cold. My mother expects me up for a week after her op but I told her I could only manage 3 or 4 days. She said she was having 2nd thoughts about it all and was going on about the tinitus again - I can see another falling down in the offing, oh dear, I really need some time to myself and DH this holiday time. Angel, I am sure you were choked singing at your friend's funeral - that took a lot of love holding it together to do it for her. When is your next WW meeting, Willow? Tell us how it went and what you did, won't you? Sheila, hope you are ok and not overdoing the painting. Puss cat goes for blood test tomorrow and a weigh-in but the way he is shovelling fish down his little gullet I would be surprised if he has lost too much despite looking a little leaner - vet did say he was classed as overweight when this was diagnosed. Perhaps it's not just our kids who sometimes get forced into our bad eating habits......

09-03-2003, 08:13 PM
Puss, I think you're right. I can tell usually when I'm going to come down with some malady. I usually start to feel real tired and require more sleep. It's just that this darn body doesn't seem to want to STAY asleep anymore.

I sure hope your kitty has fooled the vet and is all well now. If so, I think it's all to your love and attention.

My little grandson stopped here with his Dad after his first day at "BIG KIDS SCHOOL" and had to tell me all about it. He is sooo excited about going to kindergarten, instead of pre-school!:lol:

My son said he will help me build the framework for around the ductwork in the basement.

Tomorrow is suppose to be weigh-in at WW for me. I have to go to Mayo, so don't know what time I'll get back to town. If not in time tomorrow, then I'll go Friday. I think I may have gained. I had a few really bad days there. We'll see tomorrow. I went to the curves site and printed out some forms for charting weekly progress etc. It's free if anybody wants to print some out. You need to download Acrobat Reader, but that is simple and only takes about 10 seconds. I enlarge to 100% too.
This book I bought the other day is pretty cool. It even shows how to do the curves workout at home. All you need is an exercise TUBE, not a band, and a chair. The tube needs to be 4 feet long.

I'm going to go make supper. Having fish, but not sure yet what I'm having with it.

Hello to everyone! Have a good evening!

09-04-2003, 11:23 AM

I'm new to this site and this is my first post. Have to get my feet wet and get use to all the new features.

I'm 50 years old and I'm currently doing the South Beach Diet. Have been doing it that for about 8 weeks and have lost 10 lbs. I seriously started trying to lose weight right after New Year. Began on the Atkins plan, but couldn't stand all the restrictions and I wasn't losing. Joined Weight Watchers in February and did real well doing that WOE. I lost 25 lbs between Feb. - May, then went on a 2 month plateau. While doing WW online I heard about the South Beach Diet and the prevention.com site. I went in for a dip and never got out!!! I really like the plan and I love that I'm eating healthy and not feeling hungry.

It has been a slow journey for me but I'm determined to reach a healthy weight (actualy I'm tired of being fat ;) !) Now that I'm in my 50's I realize that time is catching up with me and that I have not lived a healthy life style (I smoke and I use to drink wine every day). I know that I have to take 1 step at a time so getting the weight off was first, the drinking went with Phase 1 on the SBD, now I have an occational glass of red wine. The smoking is what I'm concentrating on right now. I'm down to 3 cigarettes a day and I'm going to give it up completely on Sunday.

Well that's the jist of my story. Thanks for listening, hopefully I will get the support I need here at the very least I hope I'll learn something from all you guys.

09-04-2003, 01:33 PM
I'm glad you decided to join our little group! These ladies are such a super group! You'll get lots of loving support here.

I too had tried the Atkins diet, and couldn't stay with it. Too strict! I didn't really have any interest in the South Beach Diet because I thought it was just another low carb thing, but a couple of weeks ago, I started reading more on it someplace, and I changed my mind about it. It sounds a lot more sensible.

I joined WW last week, and today is my weigh-in day. I'm going to go in just a few minutes.

How I wish I had never smoked a cigarette in my life!

I'm going to start asking Puss for some of her recipes and see if I can adjust them to lower-calorie ones. She describes them so well my mouth starts watering! :lol:

Hi everybody else!
I was on time for my appt. at Mayo, despite the slow, stop and go traffic of early morning commuters and school buses.

But, I could have gone a long time without hearing the report I got.
My arm looked alright on the MRI.
However, there is a nodule in my right upper lung that wasn't there in January and they want to keep a close watch on.
They said it's very small, and now, instead of going back in 6 months, I'm back to 3 months. If there's any growth or change in the nodule, then I suspect there will be biopsies, and I don't know as I want that done because I think the biopsy needle leaves "seeding" of cancer cells all along it's track when it's removed from the tumor.
I don't even know yet if it IS a malignancy, but, my chances of having a primary lung cancer are tremendous because I smoked 1 to 1 1/2 packs of cigarettes a day for 42 years. The longer you have smoked, the greater the chances of developing lung cancer. Doesn't matter how long ago you have quit.
I quit 4 1/2 years ago.

I called work and asked if I could stay away from the soldering until they find out what this is in my lung, and they won't do it without a Drs say-so.
What jerks! It's not as though they don't have any other jobs for me to do. So, after I got home I had to call my primary Drs secretary and ask her to ask him if I need to stay away from the solder smoke and if so have him fax a statement to my work.
The man already thinks they're nuts! He couldn't believe that they make me bring a note from him every time I have to go there. He faxed a letter to them 3 years ago explaining everything, and now they made me take an FMLA form to him. He just smiles and shakes his head. That's the kind of treatment you get after 20 years of service.

I'm going to go to a WW meeting now, and after that I'm going to Curves.

Guess I'll have a grilled chicken breast and veggies for supper. Maybe a can of soup for lunch.

Pray I haven't had a gain!

09-04-2003, 04:55 PM
Welcome Summer and well done on the weight loss and also the cigarette reduction. I think I am the only one on here who still smokes and I hope to quit (for the 3rd time!) around Christmas when I hope my weight is nearer where I want it. What is the South Beach Diet? I have never heard of it before.
Willow, you must be worried about the nodule but try to remember that most lumps - even on the lung -- turn out to be benign. I remember years ago someone having to have a lung removed because of NUMEROUS non-cancerous tumours and he must be older than God now. I think your company stinks! After all those years! Like my dad always said (he was very anti-management and a union member all his life) "you are just a number to most places, you drop down dead and they will shove the next man on the line so's not to break the production". All the hours you have put in too. How did WW's go? I lost a pound today so back to 147 but there ain't no rhyme or reason to this sometimes. Sue was right when she said don't be surprised if that chicken saltimbocca I had laden with cheese kicks my metabolism in. I feel so virtuous now that I have been very good today but you watch, that will probably put that pound back on tomorrow.
Thanks for asking about puss cat, had blood taken tonight but won't have the results until tomorrow. Vet weighed him and the little fat rascal has GAINED - got to be the mountain of fish he gets through every day. He only used to get it at weekends so he must think every day is Saturday and SUnday. I asked the Vet if it's possible that his kidney's had taken a hammering but have repaired themselves. She said it is possible in some situations and said she was stunned herself how well he was that first day compared to his blood results. We will have more idea over what is going on when the results come through tomorrow but I am not getting my hopes raised too much because she said she has only known complete recovery/reversal of renal failure twice in eight years. Got to be all your prayers though because she was expecting him to be lifeless and thin today ha ha may have to rename him the Great Pretender. Hi to Angel, Sheila and Sue. Hope you all had a good day and Willow, I will say a prayer for you tonight too. xx

09-04-2003, 06:04 PM
I can't seem to keep myself busy enough, so I'm back to bug you gals.

Listen to this! After the way I ate and no exercise this past week to speak of, I still lost 1.2 pounds! I would not have been surprised to see a couple pound gain, so I was more than delighted to see a loss, .... ANY loss!

Before I go any further, I want to apologize to Summer. I was remiss in not congratulating you on your loss so far. I think I was so befuddled when I got home this morning that I'm lucky I remembered where I live! But, you do deserve kudos for your hard work. You should be very proud of your accomplishments.

I have to tell you ladies what my 6-year old grandson did this morning.
He lives about 3 hours away from me, and I had been taken to the examining room and was waiting for the DR to come in when my cell phone rang. It was early & I was puzzled who would be calling me that early.
It was my grandson, calling to tell me that he lost a tooth and that the tooth fairy had come last night and taken his tooth.
He said, " I had 2 loose teeth, and one of them came out yesterday and I put it under my pillow and the tooth fairy came during the night and took my tooth and left me some money for it." I asked him how much she had paid him for his tooth, and he said " $5.00 ".
Then he said, " I think she tried to take my other loose tooth too, because it was REALLY loose this morning, and I pulled it out." :lol: " Now I'm going to put that one under my pillow tonight!" :lol:
He is such a little turkey!! :D
Inflation is even hitting the tooth fairy! My kids got a couple dollars for theirs! :p
Anyway, it made me feel good that he wanted to call me and tell me about losing his first tooth! :love:
My Dr really got a kick out of that one.

Well, I've used 12.5 of my points so far today, and I'm going to have spaghetti for supper. I've been hungry for it for a couple of weeks, and I stopped and picked up some italian sausage to make meatballs with. I might as well get it out of my system.

The WW leader today made us promise that if we ever had thoughts of not coming back, that first we would come and tell her. I thought that was nice of her. At least you didn't feel like she was just there to put on a talk and get out of there. Made you feel like she really cares if you get healthy or not.

Some of the points have changed too. I wasn't aware of that before. Points for some meats have gone up, and the sizes of some things have gone down, like corn; a 7" ear of corn used to be what a 5" is now, or something like that.

Well, I need to quit babbling now. I'll probably see you later.
Have a great day!
Prayers for a good report on kitty!!

09-04-2003, 06:35 PM

South Beach Diet is a low carb diet. It was developed by Dr. Agastston, it is different from Atkins in that SBD is low fat and allows good carbs therefore you are allowed more variation. I really like the plan in that the food I eat is fresh, healthy, no limits of allowed food and I don't feel hungry. You can find more information on Prevention.com follow the links to South Beach Diet there is also a message board dedicated to South Beach Diet. There are quiete a few members on the board from England and Canada.

What Plan are you on??

09-04-2003, 07:19 PM
Willow - loved the tooth fairy story, so cute. I have to admit I have all my kids' milk teeth in a little box - macabre, or what? I still have their dummys (pacifiers?) and the little plastic bands that were put on their wrist by the hospital when they were born. I still have daughter's first ballet shoes when she was 3. Psychiatrist would have a ball on me I think. Well done on that weight loss, lady!!:dance: :D so very pleased for you!
Summer, thanks for the link to the diet you are on. I am not on a particular plan, just low fat guide but I started on Rosemary Conley's menu book (Brit fitness guru about 60 years old now and looking good). I eat pretty much what I like but with regard to
knowing which foods are fatty and also in smaller portions than I used to. But, I have days where I lapse and just eat rubbish like cake. I seem to have come to a grinding halt and I think that's because I won't exercise . I may have to if I am to lose any more but I will wait and see ha ha.
I joined this site on a Sunday morning (May?June?) when I was really down about my weight and Willow was there to pick me. Willow, Sheila, Sue and lately Angel have been there ever since to shore me up when needed. I guarantee this is a brilliant group for support. I started at 164lb and am now 147lb - with 3lb variations lately -which may not sound a lot to someone of regular height but I am only 5' 1"and was starting to get 'painful crunchy knees'. When you meet the rest of the group I know they will be quick to offer support to you too. How much do you hope to lose and have you set yourself a target? Willow, well done, again, you have done well.

09-04-2003, 10:20 PM
http://www.miscellaneous.ca/designs/sets/mothergoose/txt.gif to Summer! Glad you joined us. Hey, you're doing great with your weightloss, so far! http://www.gilly.0catch.com/emoticons/cheer.gif

Willow....take care of yourself, hope nothing comes of that nodule.

Fatpuss....sounds like your kitty is feeling a little better..& gaining some weight...that's great!

My nurse called me Monday....said my white blood count was very low. Gotta stay off of the Methotrexate (low-dose chemo) til Monday, then go to dr. I had a test a couple of years ago where they draw blood cells out of the bone marrow. Can't think of the name of it. But it was very painful. I hope I don't have to have that done again. My white blood cell count was very low then, too.

I'm tired tonight...just wanted to say hello. Take care. http://www.gifanimations.com/Image/Animations/Animals/catsmice/bye.gif

09-05-2003, 07:43 AM
Good Morning everyone and Welcome Summer! You have done a great job so far. Stick to your guns and give up those cigarettes on Sunday! I, too, have "been there and done that" and it is very difficult to do. I quit about 12-13 years ago. Kicking and screeming all the way, but after my husband's heart surgery we both gave it up. Even after all these years, when someone goes by with a cigarette, I can recognize a Marlboro Light :dizzy: I don't know if you have gone back and read all the posts, so I will give you a quick intro. I will be 55 this month - can't wait to get my Senior Discount at Dunkin' Donuts - KIDDING - and like you, I was just tired of being fat. With health problems and meds, it has been a struggle to get the extra weight off this time. A couple years ago, I did the "Mayo Clinic Diet" and lost over 30 lbs. As soon as I stopped, it came back and brought a few friends with it. Now I am doing Diet Workshop. Meetings once a week and REAL food. I try to exercise at least 5 days a week for 45 minutes or more.
This is a fun group. We laugh, we cry sometimes, we share what helps and sometimes what doesn't. Large vanilla/chocolate twist soft ice cream cones do not help, if you want to make a note of that. :shrug:
Willow and Angel, I pray your health problems do not get over whelming for you. When do our "Golden Years" start? Hello Sheila, hope you haven't lost us. Have to go get ready for work, just wanted to say Good Morning and Welcome. Be back soon. Sue

09-05-2003, 01:13 PM
Hi Everyone,

This is my first day visiting the forum. My aim in joining is to find a supportive group of people to chat with about food and weight issues and most anything else that comes up.

I am 60 years old, still working 9-5. Plan to work for 5 more years, but also thinking about what I will do with my time after I retire. :)

I live in the midwest, and the weather is moving into fall. Fall is ok, but I do not like winter. Why don't we move? We are too deeply ingrained here, I guess. Kids and grandchildren and all the other friends and relatives all live nearby. I would dreadfully miss my grandchildren if I didn't get to see them on a regular basis. Then of course I am almost joyful when they go home after a few days visit. Is it just me, or do other grandma's feel this way too? Makes me feel quilty :?:

Looking forward to the weekend, have a few things planned. Clean the house, organize the storage room. Hope I at least do one of these things so I don't feel like such a loser come Monday.

Take care.


09-05-2003, 08:58 PM
Hi, everyone!

Welcome Bluet! I know exactly what you mean about grandkids visiting, although with me it's kids. My son, DIL and GD are coming for Christmas, which I'm really happy about, and my son mentioned that vacation was from December 19 to January 11, but he wanted to be home by January 5 or something like that. He was thinking they'd come for the whole vacation--yikes! I was thinking they'd be here less than a week! I love 'em, but we have a tiny house and my dad lives with us as well as my youngest son. With the two extra adults, and my precious granddaughter, who is special needs and has lots of medical and regular baby equipment, I think my claustrophobia would be activated.

Welcome to Summer21 and congratulations on your weight loss! Puss, I hope your kitty is doing better.

I really enjoy this group. We've had our share of joys and sorrows, but I think we're all hanging in there and losing weight along the way, too. I follow the Weight Watchers plan and have lost 51 lbs. now (lost 1 lb. this week). Charlotte's graphics are incredible, too--you'll come just to see what she's posted!

Charlotte, i sure hope you don't have to take that painful test. I'll be praying for you. I hope your treatments kick in and you'll get some more energy back even though your white cell count is low.

Willow, congratulations on the 1.2 lbs.! The tooth fairy story is way too cute. What a neat kid!

Sue, you crack me up with your Dunkin' Donuts discount card. Are you one of those ex-smokers who lingers outside taverns breathing deeply? :)

Well, a lot has been going on at my house (besides painting!). My youngest son moved in, and has already been on a couple of job interviews so we're hoping. And my daughter joined the Navy yesterday and found out she's going to be shipped out to boot camp on October 8! She'd been told it usually takes six months to a year to get a placement, so we are all in shock. I am really hoping that things work out well for her. She's pretty excited, but nervous, too.

Other than painting trim until it rains, not sure what we're doing this weekend. Maybe another trip to the Farmer's Market--the tomatoes were wonderful!

09-05-2003, 10:58 PM
I bought two big, beautiful tomatoes yesterday, and they are the vine-ripened ones too. Ohhhh, to die for. I had a whole one cut up in my salad with supper last night.

WELCOME Bluet! I'm so glad you've joined us!
I'm from the midwest too! Wouldn't that be something if we were neighbors or lived near each other? And I'm 59 years old, and I have LOTS of grandchildren. 12 to be exact, and yes, I tend to get nervous when they are all here, but I get a sick feeling in my stomach when they all leave to go back home too. I feel lonesome for them before they have even left the driveway.
I think I'll be less uptight after I get the downstairs done because that's where I'm going to have all the "kid" stuff, and then there won't be so much congestion up here.
Believe me, I think every Grandma has the same feeling when the grandkids go home, then feels guilty for having such thoughts. :D
I think it's normal, we just think we're the only ones like that.

I don't believe I'd be happy living any place but here. I'd miss the 4 seasons so much, and I think all the seasons are beautiful, but, I enjoy fall the most I think. Like our WW leader said yesterday, you can smell September.

I have 6 sons also, and some are in the same town as me and some are anywhere from 3 to 7 hours away. I have 5 Daughters-in-law.

I feel pretty good today. I don't know if it's because I've been eating healthy again the past few days, or if it's because I had a small loss yesterday or if it's because last night I finally got some sleep. Whatever the reason, I hope it keeps up.

I was thinking at work today that I want to start riding my bike back and forth to work. It's starting to get a little cooler now, and it would be good exercise. I'm going to give it a dry run tomorrow morning I think. I'll have to do it early because it's suppose to get up to 86 tomorrow. I don't think we'll have many of those days left this year. I'll just have to decide which of 2 routes I'm going to ride on. One is closer but has no street lights(kind of out of town) and a lot of truck traffic, and the other is longer but has street lights and sidewalks most of the way. It would be just my luck that I'd be bumped along by a Big Mack truck! :lol:

I don't know if any of you have heard of these stores or not, but there is a FAMILY DOLLAR store here, and I buy my laundry detergent and a lot of odds and ends there. I went there after work today and got 2 big boxes of laundry detergent, (Trend and Sun) and pink salmon for 1 dollar a (big) can, family size cans of veg. soup for $.50, an 8-roll pkg. of paper towels for $5.00, 3 books of bed-time bible stories for when the grand kids are here, measuring cups and spoons, and I can't even think of all I got right now, but I only spent $34.00.

I still haven't taken charge of that rose bush either. I'm not going to be able to procrastinate much longer.

Sheila, congratulations on your loss again this week! You made it to, AND PAST, your half way point! I'm proud of ya! Aren't you just feeling on top of the world?? You should be!

Oh gosh Charlotte, I'm praying you don't have to go through a painful test again. You've been through enough already!! Maybe just laying off the methotrexate for a bit will help matters. Do they give procrit for your problem? Maybe that would help.
I don't understand why they can't sedate a person when they do a bone marrow aspiration. That seems so damned barbaric to me!
With all the modern conveniences, and they can't stop doing painful medical procedures! Unbelieveable! I'll never let them do one on me! Not while I'm awake anyway.
These things always remind me of one of my nieces, who is 2 years younger than me, and what she said to a Dr. one time when she was really little. She had an abcessed ear, and my parents raised her and her 2 siblings, so my Mom took her in to the DR, and he lanced that abcess. Well, they ended up having the nurse, my Mom and the DR all holding her down, and she was crying sooo hard and all of a sudden she said, (charlotte, you might not want to read this because I know you're very religious)
" I don't like you! I don't like you! G-- DAMN you, I don't like you!"
My Mom said she could have died on the spot! Don't know where it came from. I'm sure she heard SOME adult say it at SOME time. :o
There is a story about one of my nephews and the DR too, but, another time.

I had pork teriyaki stir fry for supper tonight. with 2 pieces of toast and ICBINB spray, and some kosher dill pickles.

Sue, you mentioned senior discounts. Well, I don't know about where you live, but in my town the parking lots at most of the stores or malls have parking spots designated for people 55 and over that say, preferred parking for seniors. I parked in one once when I turned 55 and a man yelled at me and embarrassed me so much I've never tried it again. He didn't believe I was old enough to be using it, and really blasted me about letting people use those spots who really are old enough and need them, blah, blah blah. I suppose in a way it was a backhanded compliment, but, I avoid them anyway. I guess the exercise is good for me anyway.
Golden years, my foot! :lol:

Puss, I think it's beautiful that you kept your childs baby teeth and booties etc. I have heard of DNA being done on peoples baby teeth that their parents kept and paternaties being determined through that.
But, I think it's just a wonderful thing. I don't think it's macabre at all!

Does this Rosemary Conley have a web site? That's interesting that she's older and has a fitness forum.
I always think you're saying Rosemary Clooney when I first read her name, and have to re-read it. She was a famous singer when I was a kid, and she's also an aunt to George Clooney, and I bet you know who HE is! MMM, MMM, MMM!

See? I told you, eventually you're gonna have to do that nasty "E" word! I wouldn't dust Richard off again though! I just don't think he's your type. :lol: Maybe just some old fashioned walking and some old fashioned exercises like we used to do in school. Sit-ups, jumping jacks :D , touch-your-toes ;) , side crunchs, ....
I haven't had Richard out for a while either. He's fun occasionally, but I don't think I could make a habit of him.
You've actually done quite well with your losses, so I wouldn't get discouraged just yet. Maybe you're body is taking a break for a few days. And, now that I think of it, didn't you just have a loss???

Well, I better get moving here. I get going and I babble!

Again, Bluet, welcome.

Summer, hello if you're around! Stop in and see us!

Everybody have a great night!

09-05-2003, 11:55 PM
Hi everybody! Hope all had a good day. Mine was very long...worked at the station, then went & cleaned church, while hubby cut the grass. Anyway I'm tired!!http://www.jeffpylenz.com/INCREDIMAIL%20VOL.2/HOTLETTERS/Groaner.gif

to bluet!! So glad to have you. I have 11 grandchildren....so, how do you think I feel when they go home?.....http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-081.gif...I do love them, & they're hardly all ever here at the same time.....I think my age is catching up with me!

Willow...yes, I'm a christian... I'm also old enough to have heard all kinds of language!
:lol: I just felt sorry for the child! I had to sit on my son, when he was 2...& hold him down, for the dr to sew his head up, where he fell. Yes, I wonder where the sedations & painkillers are..especially with all the money they collect from us!!
The bone marrow thing, though...the dr told me, when he was doing it the last time, that he could numb the site...but there wasn't any way of numbing the bone. He could have knocked me out, or something, though. Even over the head! AT the time, I would have been thankful!:dizzy: Oh, yeah, congrats on the weightloss! You've really got it going again!!http://www.gifanimations.com/Image/Animations/food/apple_1.gif

Sheila...congrats on the weightloss! http://www.gilly.0catch.com/emoticons/cheer.gif

Hello to Sue, Fatpuss & summer....take care!

I'll try to check in tomorrow...have a great weekend. http://www.funnygreetings.com/graphics/rosie_eating_chocolates_lg_clr.gif

09-06-2003, 12:59 AM
Hi Sheila, Willow, and Angel

Thank you for the warm welcome to the forum.

I know all about remodeling and plaster dust. My husband and I live in the original farm house that he grew up in. Our home is over 100 yuears old and we have done major remodeling to many parts of the house. Each time we are done with a new remodel, I always say "Never Again"! :^: , but that never stops us. Now that we have reached our 60's, I think we are most likely done with the remodling.

All our children are grown up and married and moved away from home, so it is just myself and my husband in this big house now.
We have three daughters and one son and six grandchildren, with another due shortly.

I live in Wisconsin, and we really do have three seasons here, with winter being the longest of course. I think Spring is my favorite season, when the weather starts to warm up and the flowers start to bloom. I have several perenial flower beds around my house and my hobby is working in them and having them look nice and discovering new perenials to try. Willow what are you trying to do with your rose bush? I have about 6 rose bushes in my flower beds. This was a good year for roses.

Where are you ladies posting you weight loss? I noticed that you mentioned it to one another. Have any of you gotten interested in Kathleen DesMaisons' Total Sugar Addiction Recovery Program?

Well gotta go, getting tired, hope I can sleep all night for a change.



09-06-2003, 01:52 PM
Welcome Bluet, you have come to the right site for support. Don't feel guilty about how you feel when the grandkids leave, I don't have any grandkids yet but even when grown-up kids visit it's nice when they go just to get the place back in order and the old routine back. Having said that, son rang today to say he will be coming tomrrow with his friend for sunday dinner. He was only here last weekend so I guess he wants to see as much of the cat as he can before it gets more sick. Having said that, you wouldn't think he was sick! Son's friend is Hindu and vegetarian so I have been scouring cookbooks for veggie roast instead of roast beef. He is a lovely guy and wouldn't mind if I gave him the full dinner minus the meat but I have bought some quorn which I believe is a good meat substitute. Will let you know how it turns out. Sheila, it is brilliant that your daughter is in the Navy - I remember you saying she was interested in joining. Glad your 'boomerang son' is applying for jobs. It's not easy, don't know about you ladies but I still don't know what I want to do. Maybe when I grow up...that's another thing, anyone else like me who still feels like I haven't grown up yet? What's that about, I wonder. Angel, you could certainly get a job doing your wonderful graphics but I am sorry you are unable to take your Methotrexate. I believe it's a wonderful drug for arthritis but blood tests have to be done regularly for toxidity. I hope your pain isn't increased too much. Willow, I have heard Rosemary Clooney sing (didn't she die recently?) on the tv years ago. Nice voice. Rosemary Conley must have a website as there are clubs like WW all over the country but hers incorporate exercise at the meetings too. I will check it out. As for paternity tests on baby teeth, I was at the supermarket last week with DH and son and a little old lady pulled my husband to one side and said "isn't he the image of his mother?". He may be the only one husband would consider paternity on as daughter is the model of DH. Son is built like a barn door with shoulders like an ox and we often wondered where he came from ha ha. I don't even know whose teeth are whose in the bag. Sheila, YOU LOSER :dance: :cb: well done on the loss, brilliant for you.

09-06-2003, 07:42 PM
Thank you for the welcome. :goodvibes. You know, this is so special, I have always wanted to be able to chat with someone from England. I have read sooooo many english novels in my life time. I imagine that living in the English Country Side would be ideal. I always thought I would come back in my second life as a beautiful sought after English Aristocrate with tons of money. Ha
wouldn't that be outrageous?

All silliness aside, I truly would like to visit Great Britain someday, it is one of my dreams. We just had a nephew and his wife go to England for a friends wedding. They just fell in love with the country side and the people there. They had the pleasure of staying at a cottage that the grooms parents rented for them.

Today is one of my grandsons birthdays and I baby sat for some of the grandchildren that were too small to go to the party. I am tired, didn't get done what I planned to do. But, enjoyed the kids.

We are having beautiful weather right now for September, hope it continues until April, and then we can start with Spring again.

09-06-2003, 09:49 PM
I just now sat down to eat my supper. I have been working in my kitchen all day, except for 2 trips to shop, one for about an hour and the other about a half hour. I'm :tired:
I started about 8:30 this morning, and didn't plan to do as much as I ended up doing, but, now that I did, I'm glad I did it.
I took things out of cupboards and drawers and cleaned and re-lined the drawers, threw away a bunch of stuff that was still good but not necessary. I mean, ... how many stirring spoons can one person need? I've still got about 6 that I kept. I went and bought new silverware holders, and I had so much of that, that I put enough for another household in a tupperware container for the kids to play with.
I took everything off the counter tops and couldn't believe I was hanging on to some of that stuff. :dizzy:
I have a couple little corners where "things" get shoved when I or anyone else is in a hurry, so I bought 2 little 4-shelf stands to put in there and put my coffee grinder and stuff like that on them. Looks cute! and neat!

I still haven't finished wiping up the floor in there. Just did the places that were back in corners before I put the stands up. I'll finish it later.
I did manage to vacuum my living room and bedroom too.

I don't know if I managed to wear off any calories or not because I didn't actually do anything STRENUOUS, but, at least I wasn't sitting all day.
I had to laugh this evening when I ran to get some fresh veggies, my shoes felt loose! I was laughing because I thought, "that would be just my luck! I'll lose weight in my feet!" :D

I ate pretty good today. Had an omelet with stirfry veggies and 97% fat free ham and a slice of FF cheese with 2 sl. whole wheat toast with ICBINB for breakfast.
Had spaghetti and meatballs for lunch.
And for supper a huge salad with an ounce each of deli low fat ham and turkey and a slice of ff cheese. Had lots of different veggies in it. So, .... I'm stuffed. Couldn't eat it all.

Puss, what is quorn? Is it a ground-up vegetable? I would be lost if I had to cook for someone who is a vegetarian. I really should learn how to cook those kinds of foods. You just never know when you're going to need to know that. That would be a good challenge for me when I retire. Go to school and learn that.
One time I was going to try a recipe using tofu, and that was the first and last time. It was the most God-awful tasting thing I've ever eaten. I think it was suppose to be spaghetti sauce, and it was terrible. I remember it had tomato in it, so it must have been. Also meat loaf. AACH! I just know that I had to have misinterpreted the instructions. There were big lumps of this whitish stuff in there, and it didn't taste anything like the rest of the ingredients, like I was told it would. :shrug:

I'm delighted that kitty is still doing good! I think :angel:'s are watching over him!

Charlotte, I hope you're feeling ok today. I gotta tell you I just love the lady with the rollers in her hair eating the yum yums! Adorable!

Bluet, it's nice to have a big house though when everybody comes home for the holidays, etc. I suppose it does get expensive to heat etc, though.
I closed off the bedrooms upstairs, and just use it for attic or storage space now.

What part of Wisconsin do you live in? I live in southeastern MN.
The rosebush I referred to is a climbing 7-sister rose bush, and it has canes about 20 feet long and it has gotten out of control. It's taking over everything, ... my clematis, my iris', tulips, rhododendrons, the electric meter, ...... :lol:
So, I'm going to cut off the canes to the top of the circle of fencing I planted it in, and then try to dig it up and re-plant it out behind the shed where it can fight with a blasted grape vine I haven't been able to get rid of in 30 years. I have dug down so deep trying to find the end of that root to that grape vine, and I think it goes all the way to **** because I can't get it. I chop it off way down in the ground, and it comes right back up. :dizzy:
Anyway, I'm not looking forward to fighting with those canes to that rose bush.

We don't actually have any other place that we post our weight losses, just here. I don't know if you know it or not, but they have journals for members here too. You can make them public or private. But, we just tell each other when we've had a loss. Sheila and I both go to Weight Watchers,(I just joined last week) and I have weigh-in on Thursdays.
I am always so happy to see someone have a loss. It makes you more determined to stick with it yourself, I think. And, even if someone should have a gain or stay the same, it's nice to know you've been around so they can vent and maybe help figure out the reason.
I've gotten to like these ladies so well by now, that I'd surely miss them terribly if anyone quit posting.

I've never heard of that Kathleen DesMaisons Program. Is it a low carb plan also? Is that what you're doing for weight loss?

I better get a move on again. Hello to Sue, Sheila and Summer!

See you all later! Have a good evening!

09-07-2003, 05:26 AM
Hi to everyone. I am up really early to get the roast beef in the oven but it was still slightly frozen even though left out overnight in the kitchen. That's a sign that summer is over for us. I have the central heating on already and my electric blanket on at night but I did say I've always felt the cold more than the average. I look at films about arctic explorers and know I wouldn't have lasted a week! Bluet, what kind of novels have you read? I am a bookaholic - which is why I don't exercise, I suppose, a waste of good reading time. I don't live in the country but it's a one street shopping town and we get foxes, badgers and hedgehogs in the garden all the time. At the moment I am losing a battle with badgers who have a set across my road by the canal and keep digging my front lawn up searching for slugs and snails etc. They make a terrible mess. I have never been to the States but the Americans I have met and made friends with when living in the Middle East and Far East have been really nice and friendly. My uncle worked on Wall Stree for 40 years and retired to Florida about 10 years ago but misses New York. I was listening to the radio and the English reporter was re-entering the US after having to leave for a short while for visa requirements. The lady Customs official said "never mind, you won't have to do this once you get that little piece of paper". The reporter asked her what she meant and the lady explained she meant citizenship. The reporter explained that she didn't want US citizenship and said the official was open-mouthed and couldn't believe anyone would not want to be an American citizen. That's what the programme was about, US nationalism. I suppose the official is so used to many nationalities which would kill to get US citizenship that she couldn't understand this English reporter being happy with her British passport, ha ha. Whenever I see films about the Mid West it always looks idyllic - I always wanted to live on Walton's Mountain! Willow, sounds like you had a good clear out in your kitchen. Had to laugh about your 'sloppy shoes'. I have narrow feet to begin with and only consolation to gaining weight was I could fit regular shoes. Now I am back to skinny feet and having to pad regular shoes. Quorn is soya ground beef substitute and I had a taste of the finished thing and to be honest, it tastes just like stuffing - the sage and onion mix you stuff Christmas turkey with. Much rather have the beef, myself. Well, I got on the scales this morning - my proper weigh in day - and am now down to 146 which is the lowest I have been for years BUT, I was here a few weeks ago before putting the 3lb on so a real breakthrough will be when (if) I get to 145. I was planting tulip bulbs yesterday and kitty thought it was great - think I mentioned he's been using newly dug flower bed as a ready made toilet!! Haven't the heart to shout at him now he is ill. Hope everone has a lovely day, hi to all our friends here.

09-07-2003, 03:40 PM
Hey, Fatpuss, I wanted to live on Walton's Mountain, too! Although I think it was supposed to represent an area in Virginia, I'm sure it was filmed on some place in California. Don't hit me, you other U.S. citizens, but every so often I think I would rather be Canadian. British Columbia only--too cold for me in most other places.

Quorn, huh. I eat vegetarian chili, fake sausage, and some other things with soy in it, but I don't know if I could eat something that's named "Quorn." Just sounds a touch strange. Not a big beef eater either, though. Give me a hunk of salmon or some other seafood and I'd be in hog heaven!

My friend had a neighbor who ended up with a badger in his garage. I've never seen one outside of the zoo, but they certainly have nasty claws, and I understand they can rip up a trap pretty easily. I don't think I'd like to see one on my lawn. My DH saw a coyote the other night. You wouldn't think there'd be coyotes in the middle of a fairly large city, but we've heard reports that they live here.

So glad your cat is doing better. Hey, I understand about big boys eating you out of house and home. My son better get a job soon because I can't afford to continue to feed all 6'5" of him!

Congrats to all you LOSERS out there! It's nice to see those scales going the right away again.

It rained last night--hallelujah! The ground just soaked it up. This week it's supposed to be cloudy and rainy and I don't mind a bit. I've been putting off some house chores because it's been too hot inside so this will be the perfect time to attend to those.

Speaking of pets, we've had this reoccurring problem of a cat peeing in the bathtub. We took the suspected culprit in and it wasn't him. Then we took the second cat in and she had a slight bladder infection so we treated her. The peeing stopped and then started again so we took her in again and she still had some bad cells so we treated her again. The peeing stopped, then started again so we took her in again, but she didn't have any problems. Then we thought it was behaviorial. My DH saw the third cat, the only cat we didn't have tested, tearing out of the bathtub the other day so we took her in, and she has a raging urinary tract infection with crystals so it was probably her all the time, poor cat. When you have three cats, you just don't know who is doing what unless you catch them in the act. I always have to laugh when the vet asks me if a particular animal is vomiting--we're always finding vomit and we have six pets so it could be any of them!

Planning on going to the Farmer's Market and stocking up on great veggies again today. Hope everyone has a relaxing Sunday.

09-07-2003, 05:56 PM
Guess I better pop in and say hello before you all think I have left the planet. Just came home from GD's soccer game. The kids are only 6 years old and some of them play like little pros and the others don't have a clue. I felt sorry for them, it was so hot. They all have their insulated water bottles with them though, and the coaches constantly rotate the players.

Went out to dinner last night to a great seafood place. Had broiled scallops and boiled new red potatoes and a salad. And homemade bread that was delicious. I promised my DD I would make some bread while she is here. I have been wanting to try a round loaf on my pizza stone. I have no willpower when it comes to fresh bread and butter. Dinner tonight is chicken. Mine plain, DH's chicken and gravy on a biscuit. Haven't made that in years, so I was reminded. ;)

I smiled when I read your last post Sheila - I was born in P.E.I. Canada, and became a US citizen when I was 18 or 19. I am still a Canadian in my heart though.

I'm with Willow - tried tofu once and that was enough for me. I would rather eat a little less of the real thing. Like dressings, I have tried many lowfat, no fat, sugar free/fat free etc etc but I still prefer the original Hidden Valley Ranch. I just dip my fork in it when I eat a salad and get it on the side at a restaurant. I notice that many products with a reduced amount of fat have an incredible amount of sugar. There has to be a better balance somewhere.

Haven't exercised in three days.:shrug: :( No real excuse either, just a lazy spell I guess. Back on track in the morning.

Welcome Bluet! I have just scanned the posts and realized we have two new friends! Just the mention of remodeling and plaster dust makes us almost "kinfolk". I was looking through old photo albums one day and found three different pictures of myself standing on a ladder with a dustmask on and tearing out plaster and lathe. The funny thing was that one was in my house, one in my sister's house, and the third in my other sister's house. They got quite a kick out of them. My ripping and tearing days are through I hope.

Gotta get those biscuits in the oven. Take care all. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Sue

09-07-2003, 06:57 PM
Hi Everyone,
Can I join the party? I'm not yet 50 (will be by the end of the month). You seem like a friendly, supportive group and I definitely need that.

09-07-2003, 10:51 PM
I accomplished a lot this weekend, but not as much as I'd like to.
Today was laundry day, and I also went shopping for a new(bigger) tool box and a new drill.
I was going to put a bracket on my shed for a trash bag and when I went to use my drill, it didn't work, so, guess someone must have dropped it or something. Anyway, I went and bought a new one, and my tool box was getting too small for all my stuff, so I bought a bigger one and transferred everything to that one.
I got my bracket on and now I'm putting padlocks on 2 doors downstairs. People have figured out how to trip the locks on the knobs. I was just getting started on that when my sister from Michigan stopped in. So, when I'm done here, I'll go finish putting those on.

I'm eating my supper as I type this. grilled pollock Walleye, stirfry veggies with cooking spray, and oyster sauce, and 2 slices of whole wheat toast with ICBINB. Strawberries for dessert. And tea.

I started to tackle that rosebush, and I quit because I need to find some gloves that I can pull on those canes with and not have the thorns go through the gloves. What a mess!! I think I'm going to have to cut my clematis off of the lattice work because those blasted canes have intertwined with everything. I might even advertise for someone to come and dig it out for me. Maybe someone will want it free for taking it out.

I've got my clothes all ready for work tomorrow, so now all I have to do is get something ready for my lunch and I'm all set.

So, ... how was the roast, Puss? I already know it was delicious. :D

I don't have any HEAT on yet. I couldn't imagine. I still have my air conditioning on. It has been pretty warm here the last couple of days. My house is always too cold for other people. In the winter I close the vent in my bedroom and a lot of the time I crack the window that goes to the porch just a bit so the cool fresh air comes in my room. Then I put lots more covers on, .... till I wake up sweating.

Hedgehogs look so cute! Are they a nuisance? They look like miniature porcupines crossed with a mole.
I know that badgers can be vicious. They can gut another animal with one swipe of those claws. My Dad used to trap fox and stuff when I was a kid and every once in a while he'd get a badger in a trap. In those days they paid bounty on fox, racoon,beaver, all kinds of stuff.

That quorn sounds very good to me. If it tastes just like dressing, I want to try it because the dressing is one of my favorite parts of a thanksgiving meal.
Does it come already seasoned like that, or is it a dry thing that you have to add liquids and seasonings to? I wonder if the health food store here would have it. I need to check that out. I love sage and onion stuffing.

See? You got some exercise planting those bulbs and you had a loss today. Good job! I bet you'll be at 145 next week. It's going to go slower for you now because you're getting down close to where you should be. That's always the slowest part to lose. But, hang in there, you'll make it to your goal.

My former neighbors cats used to come and use my flower beds for their potty. That always made for some loud cussing on my part! Just what I wanted, to be happily pulling weeds and stick my fingers in a cat turd! :dizzy:

I had a couple rubber plants and they of course were in huge pots, and my cat started peeing in them! That's when we discovered she had a kidney disease.

One of my favorite authors is Torey Hayden. She didn't write enough books in my opinion. She was a special needs specialist teacher, and her books were about some of the children she worked with and once I started one, I couldn't put it down. You experienced every emotion there is while reading. I'd go from crying to laughing in a minute.
Then, I looked for years for the only book of hers that I hadn't read, and it was out of publication and everything. I wanted it so badly, and finally found it in a search for rare and out of date books, only to find that it was a fiction! I was soooo mad! I wanted it to be another of her true-life stories. She told them so well you were right there in her classrooms. So, I never did buy THE SUNFLOWER FOREST.

Sheila, I've never been to Canada, but, my relatives have been there on vacations, and I'd love to go some day. They say it's absolutely beautiful.
I do love the part of the country I live in though. It's bluff country, and it truly does seem like you're driving through a postcard. The town I live in is also on the mississippi river, and I've put in many hours in my life on this river.

Sue, I thought of you today when I was reading the fishing report. They say that the panfish are starting to head back into the back waters already and the bluegills and crappies are biting on jigs with waxies both with and without bobbers. Water temps dropped about 7 degrees and they figure that's why they're biting like crazy.

Your dinners last night and tonight both sound sooo good. I love new red potatoes with parsley.
If I started on homemade bread, I'd eat the whole loaf. Especially if it was still warm.
I don't have a pizza stone. Are they hard to get used to using? I hear that the crust gets done better, .. more evenly without drying out. True?
I KNOW those biscuits were good!

Hello Connie!! WELCOME! So glad you decided to join us. We love getting new members. Age doesn't really matter here. That's just the way the thread started out, and we've kept it. Anyone is welcome. But, now that you mention it, I guess we are all in our 50's but Bluet, and I'll be 60 in April.

These gals definitely are supportive and friendly.

Stick with us and you'll enjoy it as much as I do. Is there a certain plan that you're following, or are you following the sensible, balanced way of eating? There are so many different plans, and I guess each person has a different thing that works for them.
I just want to get healthy and of course I want to look better too.
I have a hundred pounds that I'd like to get rid of, but, I'm just going to eat healthy and stay as active as I can and see where it takes me.

I was on a mood thing a couple of weeks ago, and, like I said earlier, I don't know why I do that to myself, because I feel so much better when I'm being healthy.
So, yes, come on and join the party!

I need to go gat the rest of my work done and get to bed for work tomorrow.

Hello to Bluet, Charlotte and Summer! Hope your weekend was a good one!

09-07-2003, 11:15 PM
Hi Everyone,

Well the weekend is over, time to reorganize my mind and think about heading out the door early for work tomorrow morning.
Puss, I read anything actually my favorite are romantic novels in the 1800's taking place in England, western romance novels, any books that have a good story line and history to them.

We live on Lake Michigan, 120 miles north of Milwaukee. I am still waiting to have a rose grow 20 foot canes on any rose that I have grown here in all of the 39 years we have lived in this house. And then mabe not, ;) I would not look forward to trimming it either.

Kathleen DesMaisons has written three books, Potates Not Prozac, The Sugar Addicts Total Recovery Program and Your Last Diet. She also has a support web site too. I have been following her program since April 23, 2003. Her program is about being sugar sensitive and getting steady on her program of breakfast every day with a protein and complex carb, three meals a day with protein and complex carbs and a complex carb three hours after your last meal and eventually, if you choose, giving up sugar and white flour completely. I have lost 20 pounds since I started her program, but now I am frustrated and on a plateau. I know I need to excercise everyday, but I am lazy about excercise.

Even though Wisconsin is nicknamed the Badger State, and we live in the country, I have yet to see a real badger. We have a Yellow Lab and a Chesapeake Bay Retriver, and they don't allow any preditors to hang around our farm. Even the farm cats hide from them. We have deer and raccoons though, those I have actually seen from time to time, they can do a lot of damage to the crops.

I picked up a summer cold, from one of the grand children, and am feeling a little punk, hope it does not hang on too long. Also, I did not get a darn thing done with the house cleaning or the storage room cleaning, so I am very very envious of the cupboard cleaning going on here. :s: Well, it won't get done next weekend either, because that weekend is totally booked too.

Take care you guys, I am really glad I found all of you out there in cyberspace. :D Thanks for reading my ramblings!!!
Talk to you later.


09-07-2003, 11:28 PM
http://www.coolgifs.de/welcome/a_t_we03.gif Connie! Glad to have you!

Hi bluet...You ask about posting our weight loss. If you want to post a journal-like deal, you can go to www.fitday.com ....or, what I did...is made a Homepage, & posted weightloss & pics. Your website clicks on at the bottom of your post! I'm a couple of weeks behind...need to catch up!

Willow...you must be some great cook! Every post has delicious sounding recipes! Too bad I don't live near you. :lol: How's your health doing now?

Fatpuss...I know you're enjoying your kitty's feeling better. I'm happy for you & hope it lasts. Thanks for thinking of me.

Sue....remember.... http://gilly.0catch.com/emoticons/yesyou.gif

Sheila....how's it going with your son? Is he working, or painting?

Hope all are doing well....take care... http://www.agifs.hpg.ig.com.br/criancas/criancas4.gif

09-08-2003, 08:17 AM
WOW, this board even grows while I am sleeping. Welcome Connie. Glad you joined us. Dare I tell you I am a stamp addict too. I have been stamping for a couple years, but only went to a Stampin' Up open house three weeks ago. My checkbook was almost $100 lighter when I left. I gave the first card I made with the SU stamps to my sister, who promptly framed it. It was with Feathered Friends. I have to set my timer sometimes, or I would never come out of my stamp room. :dizzy:

Hello to Willow, Sheila, Fatpuss, Bluet, Angel-lover, and Summer too. Have a great day all. Be back soon. Sue

09-08-2003, 08:48 PM
Dear Dogs and Cats,

When I say to move, it means go someplace else, not switch positions with
each other so there are still two of you in the way.

The dishes with the paw print are yours and contain your food. The other
dishes are mine and contain my food. Please note, placing a paw print in
the middle of my plate and food does not stake a claim for it becoming your
food and dish, nor do I find that aesthetically pleasing in the slightest.

The stairway was not designed by NASCAR and is not a racetrack. Beating me
to the bottom is not the object. Tripping me doesn't help, because I fall
faster than you can run.

I cannot buy anything bigger than a king-size bed. I am very sorry about
this. Do not think I will continue to sleep on the couch to ensure your
comfort. Look at videos of dogs and cats sleeping, they can actually curl
up in a ball. It is not necessary to sleep perpendicular to each other
stretched out to the fullest extent possible. I also know that sticking
tails straight out and having tongues hanging out the other end to maximize
space used is nothing but sarcasm.

My compact discs are not miniature Frisbees.

For the last time, there is not a secret exit from the bathroom. If by some
miracle I beat you there and manage to get the door shut, it is not
necessary to claw, whine, try to turn the knob, or get your paw under the
edge and try to pull the door open. I must exit through the same door I
entered. In addition, I have been using bathrooms for years, canine or
feline attendance is not mandatory.

The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog's butt. I cannot
stress this enough. It would be such a simple change for you.

To pacify you I have posted the following message on our front door...

Rules for Non-Pet Owners Who Visit and Like to Complain About Our Pets:

1. They live here. You don't.

2. If you don't want their hair on your clothes, stay off the furniture.

3. I like my pets a lot better than I like most people.

4. To you, it's an animal. To me, he/she is an adopted son/daughter who is
short, hairy, walks on all fours and doesn't speak clearly.

5. Dogs and cats are better than kids. They eat less, don't ask for money
all the time, are easier to train, usually come when called, never drive
your car, don't hang out with drug-using friends, don't smoke or drink,
don't worry about buying the latest fashions, don't wear your clothes, don't
need a gazillion dollars for college, and if they get pregnant, you can sell
the results.

09-08-2003, 09:39 PM
How was your day?
I only slept a little over 3 hours last night, so I'm pretty tired tonight.

I lifted some weights this morning for about a half hour or so. Upper body. Easy does it at first. I can feel it a little tonight though.

I ate pretty good today, but I used some of my Flex Points. Had spaghetti and meatballs and some veggie-only soup for supper. My usual omelet with veggies and toast for break. and a sandwich and veggies and dip for lunch.

It was 94 degrees here today, so I didn't go out after I got home from work. In fact I got a phone call and sat on the phone for about 1 1/2 hours. I sure don't do that very often!

Bluet, congratulations on your 20-pound loss. That's great! I have heard that a plateau after about 20 to 25 pounds is normal, but if you stick with it you will eventually begin to lose again.
I know, ... it sure gets frustrating though. If you don't exercise much, you're probably right, and need to increase that a bit. They say that weight lifting is better than aerobics for weight loss because it builds muscle that uses the sugar that would have been stored as fat.
I'm gonna try it for a while. I have a couple books by Joyce Vedral, with photo's showing how to do each exercise with the weights.

Are your roses all tea's or do you have any climbing roses?
I decided today that when it gets cool enough, I'm going back out there and I'll try using a rake to pull the canes out of the other plants, trellis' and electric meter.

You must live near the border with UP Michigan. It's beautiful country up there. I had a relative in Manitowac, and have some in the UP too.

Charlotte, glad to see your post. Hope you're still feeling ok.
I'm doing pretty well too. Kind of a cough and sore throat the last couple of days, but nothing that I need to take anything for.
All I need right now is some sleep. :D

My sister wants me to ask all my kids to come home this coming weekend so she can see all of them. So, we'll see how many of them can get here. I have a feeling that I'm going to be doing some cooking this weekend.

Hi Sue! What is stamping, anyway? I've seen people post about it before but never knew for sure what they meant.
I don't get out much. ;)

Hello to Connie, Sheila, Summer, Puss, and anyone else out there.
Hope you're all having a good day!

09-08-2003, 11:49 PM
Charlotte, I went back and read all the stuff you did in one day--it sounds like you're on a roll again! Hope you're not overdoing, though. Easy to do when you feel good!

Willow, I love the letter to the cats and dogs. I'd add, "The throw rugs are not your personal vomitorium. Please use the Pergo I had specially installed for that purpose!"

94 degrees! Yikes! It made 70 here, I think, with some sun breaks. The people next door are outside in jackets. Yesterday we saw a woman at the bus stop in a parka and knit hat. I think she was overdoing it just a tad because it wasn't THAT cold. It's supposed to be in the 60s and raining this week, which is A-okay with me.

Sue, I'd love to know what stamping is, too. My DIL does scrapbooking, which is pretty cool. I'm not crafty at all so I just covet what other people make. Homemade bread. Ahhh! I can almost smell it. With lots of butter, preferably real. I can't remember the last time I had homemade bread. *Sigh*

Bluet--20 lbs. gone. Wow! I hope your cold goes away soon.

Connie--welcome! Please tell us more about yourself. I just turned 50 in April so I'm not that much older. How are you going to celebrate your 50th?

Okay, everyone cross your fingers that my son does well on his second interview tomorrow. He really wants this job, and I hope he gets it. He spent most of the day sending out more resumes. We have the 2nd worst economy in the country so I hope he can find something.

We didn't do any painting at all yesterday. Went to the Farmer's Market and bought some great vegetables and fruit, went for a walk (the only time it sprinkled during the day, wouldn't you know?), and just kind of puttered around the house. That felt great after all these frantic painting weekends. We still have some trim to do in an area where nobody sees plus some touch-ups, but I think it looks pretty darn good.

09-09-2003, 12:16 AM
Hi Everyone,

Willow, I can see I am going to have to get in my car and drive the four or five hours it will take me to get over to Minnesota and help you with that damm rose bush. I live just west of Manitowoc, so I probably know your relative ;) Just west of the lake, so we are always " cooled by the lake breezes".

So all the kids and the grandchildren are coming on the weekend. How many kids and grandchildren do you have? Yes, you will be cooking. It seems like everyone gets hungry the minute grandma's house comes into sight.

Yes, I am going to have to start the excercise routine, especially if I plan on keeping up with you girls. I can feel the peer pressure from here. So tomorrow morning I plan on getting on the treadmill as soon as my feet hit the floor. I am telling all of you this so, I will be more commited to actually doing the treadmill. I'll let you know. :smug

Our new grandaughter Anna, is being baptized on Saturday, then we have a family reunion on Sunday and a group chuch dinner on Friday evening. I think I will be all peopled out come Monday. Everything always seems to fall on one weekend, and then the next weekend there are'nt any functions to attend. Oh well

I was really tired today at work, still feeling the effects of this virus. I was falling asleep in my recliner watching TV before I came upstairs, so I guess I'll head off to bed and dream of all the dragons I will slay tomorrow.

Oh, by the way when you guys say you put SI?N?CB?? (don't remember how you spell it) :^: on your bread, what is that?
Just curious, I don't hardly use any butter or bread spread, because I take meds for high cholesterol. Talk to you later forum buds.

Take Care......


09-09-2003, 08:23 AM
Good Morning All! Have a few minutes before I have to get ready for work. Looks like everyone else posts when I go to bed. ;) A quick answer to Bluet's question. ICBINB stands for "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" I use the spray on toast, vegetables, popcorn, etc. Unless you drink it by the bottlefull, its basically calorie free. And NO cholesterol. :)

Ahhhhhhh, stamping. I could spend hours discussing, but I will make it short. Just think of a stamp that says something like "Paid In Full" or "Received 9/9/03" and substitute a picture or other words. Could be a flower, a bird, Christmas themed objects (my favorites) etc. Stamped on different colors of ink pads or stamped with clear "embossing ink" then heat-embossed with different color powders. See what I mean. I hope this does not constitute advertising, and I don't think it does, but try www.GINGERWOOD.com That site will take you to hundreds of other sites. You will learn anything and everything about the rubberstamping hobby.

Bluet, I don't know how much room you have, but the one thing that keeps me on the treadmill is the TV that I can watch. I usually tape a movie (like the "chickflicks" DH doesn't want to see) and and watch it while I walk. Fast forwarding through commercials makes each hour about 45 min.

Willow, I just loved the letter to cats and dogs too. It is just so true. Try reading a newspaper with a cat. :lol:

Sheila, it is only 50 degrees here this morning. The heat came on during the night. Brrrrrr. Seems that I slept much better though. I like cooler nights. Our windows in the bedroom stay open a little bit all winter. My son went up one day and said "Who is visiting? Your Canadian Eskimo relatives?"

I have often thought of doing scrapbooking too and organizing the hundreds of pictures I have in cardboard boxes. But there is only so much time in a day. I have a sign that says "Why Stamp? Because housework makes you ugly!" On that note, I must hit the road. Have a great day all. Sue

09-09-2003, 01:49 PM
Hi everybody....I'm not getting to post as often as I'd like...maybe that will change soon, hope so.

Well...wouldn't you know it...the Methotrexate I take weekly to help with the Remicade treatments has pulled my white blood cell count down real low. Had to stay off of two doses & go in for lab work yesterday. Nurse just called, said it's still down. I gotta stay off 2 more doses & go back the 22nd. Can't win, for losing, sometimes!

Sue.....sounds like stamping would be fun. I might try it sometime.

Bluet...hope you enjoy your grandchildren's visit! & those baptisms for the little ones are so special!

Sheila...hope your son gets that job!

Hi to Fatpuss, Connie, & Summer!!

Willow...that letter to the dogs & cats was cute!

This month is grandparents month! I noticed several talking about their grandchildren in their posts. Here's a few things you should remember when the grandkids visit!!!!!

1. A king-size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 square foot house 4 inches deep.

2. A 3 year old's voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant.

3. If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough to rotate a 42-pound boy wearing Batman underwear and a superman cape.

4. The glass in the windows (even double pane) doesn't stop a baseball hit by a ceiling fan.

5. When you hear the toilet flush and the words's "Uh-oh," it's already too late.

6. Brake fluid mixed with Clorox makes smoke, and lots of it.

TO BE CONTINUED...... http://www.agifs.hpg.ig.com.br/criancas/menino4.gif

09-09-2003, 04:39 PM
Hi everyone and a special welcome to Connie. I was trying to figure out what stamping was and only when Angel menioned the website did I know you and Connie had one. I am a novice at IT really. You are both very pretty women and so talented with icons and images on the websites. Angel, good to see you back posting and feeling a little better but don't overdo things to set yourself back. Sue, a seafood resaurant would be a good diet day for me - hate the stuff. Is a pizza stone like the ovens in pizza resaurants with real flames underneath? Sheila, fancy your DH seeing a coyote. I saw a documentary about resettling them into another area for their own safety but can't remember if it was Arizona or some place else. Sheila I am sorry for having a good laugh about your three cats peeing and also Willow's cat in the rubber plant pot. Our cat used to fight with a neighbour's cat and was so stressed he started peeing into the fireplace. A chill-out injection from the Vet sorted it out, thank heavens because although neutered, it was still like Tom Cat pee smell. When the vet said she would recommened an animal behaviourist if the injection didn't work my husband went balistic. Asked if they were going to ask our cat whether being abandoned by his Tom Cat father traumatised him ha ha. Bluet, I didn't know that Wisconsin was the Badger State but I would love to see a real life raccoon, they look so cute on TV. Badgers in the UK are a protected species so we can't harm them but DH asked our retired neighbour (who hates cats and dogs) if he would stop feeding them because he is encouraging them and it's not his lawn that is being destroyed. He is nice enough but I doubt he will stop. The UK cities have a big problem with urban foxes, only last week a baby was attacked in its own sitting room by one and a young woman in Central London had one in her BED!! Seems it jumped into her room from a balcony and she woke up with something on her leg and it was under the duvet. It must have been alarmed because it bit her on the knee. I like all animals but I don't feed wild ones because I don't think its fair to them because they lose fear of people and in turn become pests and then people turn on them. Bluet, I think the romantic fiction your refer to is called Bodice Rippers in the trade ha ha. Willow, the Quorn I got is is the brand name and it was in the freezer section of the supermarket. Looked just like ground beef but you need to season it. It is much less calories and fat than the real thing. Son's friend liked it but the rest of us stuck to the beef. It was a shame, Willow, that your favourite author changed direction from fact to fiction. A friend at work loaned me 7 books by James Patterson - forensic detective thrillers - and I have enjoyed them but after the first couple they become much of a muchness. I know a few people who have visited Canada and they all love it. One couple newly retired went with another couple and a police patrol man pulled them over. Seems they were driving BELOW minimum speed! That would never happen where I live, the main motorway into London and max speed is 70 mph but most people do a minimum of 75-80 and some lunatics do 90-100 every morning. DH and I have the next two weeks off together though I have to go up North in a few days as my mother had her op this afternoon. She phoned me all day yesterday and even this morning from hospital crying about the tinitus and asking if I would stay a week and can she come back with me. DH has threated to strangle her - she only went back home 3.5 weeks ago - and she is driving my brother insane so much he is only going to visit every two weeks. We had a lovely day transplanting a budleia tree and putting in a new azaelia. I planted some spring onion, lettuce and raddish seeds in the greenhouse and garden. I bought myself a new jacket yesterday (size 12 UK size 8 US) and this morning tried it on before I got showered wearing nothing on underneath but hiding my bits and bobs . I paraded myself to DH thrilled that a size 12 fitted and he said it was very nice and so was what I was wearing with it. I said if it was that nice maybe I should wear it to his work's boat trip. He said it wasn't that nice!!

09-09-2003, 04:45 PM
Done it again, didn't realise we were on page three already and missed Sue and Angel's posts. Angel, sorry your bloody count is still down but a doctor friend of mine says it doesn't mean you can't go back on it at a later date when bloods are better. I guess you have been there already, eh? Sue, looks like we have the same weather. My feet were like ice last night despite electric blanket being hot.

09-09-2003, 08:07 PM
Hi everybody! Looks like everyone has been busy while I was sleeping and at work.
My day was pretty good so far.
I'm working overtime all week, so I have to be to work at 5 AM. It'll make up for the day I missed last week.

The personnel office manager came out on the floor late this afternoon and said, "you forgot to sign at the bottom of this FMLA form."
I said "I didn't forget at all. I'm not signing it, because we no longer have to let anyone have access to our medical records."
What it says at the bottom is that 'I give my permission for the company's medical representative to get information from my physicians about my medical records.' I know that we no longer have to, but, she insists that I do, so, we'll see what an attorney says about it. I'm really tired of their crap.

Sheila, I'm not craftsy either, but, I'd like to find something to do after I retire and maybe sell stuff a couple times a year at sales. I think I'd like to get into sewing again. I used to LOVE it, but, I haven't sewn in so many years, I'd probably have to learn all over again. I'd need to get a sewing machine too.

The stamping sounds like it would be fun. And the scrapbooking too.
I truly pray that your son gets that job. It's sooo bad right now, and it doesn't look like it's going to improve much any time soon either. So disheartening. I feel so very bad for those who have children to raise and have lost their sources of income.

Bluet, my son lived 2 blocks from lake Michigan, in Manitowoc. He and his wife were there for about 3 years. He was manager of the Mills Fleet Farm store there. He also had a karate studio there and taught Tai Kwon Do. I used to go visit them and take my DIL's mother and sister along, and I think it is one of the loveliest towns ever. I used to have a blast at that river walk they have in June. I would spend the whole day checking out all the vendors and listening to all the bands. I want to go again. Maybe my DIL and I can go next year. They now live in the Twin Cities area, and he works for a different company now. Her mother passed away a few years ago from non-hodgkins lymphoma, at age 56. Very sad. Anyway, if I come to Manitowoc, I'll let you know and maybe we can meet in real life.
Of course, you're always welcome to come visit me in Minnesota too.
I have 6 sons, 5 DIL's and 12 grandkids.

I haven't heard anything back from any of them yet. I told them to let me know by Thursday evening so I can get food prepared. Now that I think of it, I haven't heard from my sister for a couple of days either.
It sounds like you're going to have a busy weekend coming up too. Congratulations on that new Granddaughter too.
You spoke of starting to exercise, .... I have an article I got today from about.com that I'm going to post after this post. I actually had Puss in mind when I decided to copy and paste it here, :wink: but, I guess it could be inspirational for all of us.

Sue, thanks for that URL. I haven't checked it out yet, but I'm sure going to.
I too have a tv in front of my treadmill, but I still think the treadmill is a tedious thing to do, so, I've started to do it in shorter time spaces. Like 10 to 15 minutes at a time, more often. I'm still not crazy about it though.
I rode my exercise bike for 25 minutes this morning before going to work. My muscles are still sore today from lifting weights yesterday morning. And, I'm going to lift again tomorrow morning. If it ever cools off, I'll start going to Curves again too.

Charlotte, so sorry you had to stop the methotrexate for a while. Hopefully, it won't be for long.
I just LOVED the reminders for visiting Grandkids. Looking forward to the rest.
I'm glad you're feeling better for now though. Don't wear yourself out though.

I had some really goofy foods today.
For breakfast I had a cup of bran flakes with a carton of strawberry-banana FF yogurt in it, with a cup of tea.
Lunch was a sm. carton of 1% cottage cheese and a little raw broc, caul, and carrot.
Supper was tuna salad sand., vegetable soup, and fresh strawberries.

I wonder what Thursday will bring on the scales. I'm trying to talk the woman who got me to join WW into getting a bike and go bike riding in the evenings and on weekends when it's cool enough.

Does Puss mean that you and Connie have a web site together?!? Cool! I have to get back there and finish looking at it.

Puss, I can well imagine the expression on your hubby's face when the vet suggested an animal behaviorist! :lol:
My one DIL has a cousin who has a hobby farm, and has about every kind of animal there is, but, she has a raccoon that lives in the house and is litter box trained too.:eek:

On the subject of books, .... I have a penchant for true life stuff, and more specifically, about serial killers. My family thinks it's funny. They're used to me though.

I'm glad to hear you and your hubby will get some time together this next 2 weeks. I hope your mother is doing well after her surgery. Hope nothing about it ruins you and hubby's vacation.
I got a good laugh out of his remark about your jacket.

Well, folks, I need to cut this off and get on my exercise bike again for a little while.
Good luck to everyone with your foods and exercise.
Hello to Connie. Hope your day is going well. Take care and come back soon.

09-09-2003, 08:17 PM
Finding Time to Exercise ..... Puss, are you reading? :D

It CAN be done!
Be honest...on your list of priorities, where does exercise fall? Is it even on your list? Some of you don't exercise because you think you don't have time. You're waiting for your schedules to ease up, for school to start, or some other future event. The truth is, there's never a right time to get moving. It's now or never, so read on to find out how to make exercise a reality.
Why You Don't Exercise:

We all have excuses for why we don't exercise. Recognize any of these?
Exercise is boring. If you don't look forward to your workouts, it's no wonder you skip them. People often force themselves into activities that don't interest them which, of course, increases the quit-factor.
There are no immediate consequences to skipping a workout. It's not like you'll gain 10 pounds or suddenly get heart disease if you miss one day. But, it's easy to let the time get away from you until, pretty soon it's been a month since your last workout. Then come the consquences- weight gain, low energy and more.
You're waiting for things to calm down. Haven't you figured it out yet? Life doesn't calm down as we get older. Jobs, kids, family, social obligations...they're never going to go away. If you're waiting for a clear schedule, you're fooling yourself. Find a way to do it now.
You're waiting to fall in love with exercise. Think you'll suddenly wake up one morning, itching to get to that workout? It just doesn't work that way. You have to work at it every day and find that motivation wherever you can.
You get frustrated by lack of results. Are you a scale-watcher? Remember, it takes time to see results. If you're obsessed with the scale, it's that much harder to stay motivated. Focus on what you're getting NOW--energy, stress reduction, satisfaction, etc.
You don't have huge chunks of time to do all this exercise. You're in luck--you don't need lots of time. Just 10 or so minutes throughout the day and you've got yourself an exercise program!
Finding Fun in Exercise

You may not think of exercise as being fun, but maybe you should change your perspective a little. Working out offers a different kind of pleasure. No, it's not sitting-at-the-beach-sipping-a-tropical-drink kind of pleasure, but a wow-my-life-is-better kind of pleasure. Sound cheesy? Perhaps, but it's true that exericse gives you:

Satisfaction. Admit it--does anything feel better than finishing a workout? Is there anything that makes you feel better about yourself?
Relaxation. If you do it right, a good workout will leave you both energized and relaxed. You're alert, but not stressed and you're able to accomplish more.
Weight loss. Duh.
Better health. There's no better prescription for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and other conditions related to overweight.
Confidence. There's no better confidence builder than exercise. You become comfortable in your own skin and you typically become more graceful, balanced and agile.
If you want to learn from the experts, i.e. people who've been working out for ages, read on to see how they did it.

Next: Tips and Resources for Busy People

Ever wonder how other people do it? You know them--people who always seem to find time for exercise. Hey, the had to start somewhere. Maybe you can learn a thing or two from them about making exercise your top priority:
"When I worked full-time and went to school, I used my lunch hour 2 days a week for walking/running workouts. I kept a resistance band at my desk and did whatever exercises I could during the day...if you really want to do something, you'll find a way."

"I make time. I work full time and...squeeze it in wherever I can. I take my resistance band to work and use it at breaks or lunch. I also take a little extra time on bathroom breaks and do the stairs. You may have to divide your workouts into mini-workouts."

"I started running at home on the treadmill, lifting weights again when I could...I find time, I make time, and I talk to folks about what they do. The hardest part is getting started and making it a routine. After it's a habit it's a cake walk.."

"I thought I didn't have time until I made it a PRIORITY- since changing my perspective on it - it's the LAST thing that would ever get dropped. We always manage to find time for something that is important to us."

"Most days will pack my gym bag the night before, so it's there as a reminder of what I need to do after work. I keep a notebook and plan my workout schedule for the week in advance each week so I have an idea of what I'm going to be doing."

"It make it a higher priority than other things. I wake up an hour earlier just to be sure I have the time for exercise. If that eats up available leisure time in the evening, so I can get to sleep early enough to be healthy, so be it."

It's not easy making exercise a habit, nor does it have to be the equivalent of moving a mountain. It starts with a decision and is followed by taking an action. That action can be as simple as walking the dog or as complicated as training for a marathon. Either way, there's no better time to start than now.

09-09-2003, 10:11 PM
Hello Everyone,

Wow, so much information, it is really hard to keep everyone straight. You guys sound like you have been cyber-friends forever. :) I am really enjoying this group of people, thanks for letting me join.

Puss, I was watching BBC America this evening, I love Ground Force and Changing Rooms. What happened to Allen Titmarsh he was my favorite on Ground Force. I really had to listen close when I first started watching it to understand what the designers and hosts were saying, but now I can readily understand what they are talking about. Some of the things we call one thing you call another, but it is just fun to watch and listen. It is amazing how close we are through technology. :lol:

Really, Puss, Bodice Rippers, that's a new term for me. Well, I'll just keep on reading my Bodice Rippers. :devil:

Hope your Mother is feeling better, heaven forbid that you DH would strangle her. It is nice that she has her family to depend on though. :^:

Is that cool, or what? A size 8 US jacket. What a nice compliment DH paid to you. :D I am happy for you, I can imagine how thrilled you were.

Willow, well anytime you get on over here to Manitowoc, just let me know when you are coming. I'll take a few days off of work and we can get in some sight seeing and stuff. Yes, the River Walk gets bigger and better every year. Just whatever you do, don't bring that rose bush along. Just kidding, I would probably like it. I have one climing red rose, but it is small yet. I don't have any tea roses anymore, they froze out one winter. I do have just regular rose bushes, a couple of pink ones, a white one and a couple of red ones. I have to better understand how to winter them over, so I don't loose any. Last winter I lost one and almost lost the white one, but it eventually came back. Oh, by the way, good for you for standing up to human resource people at work. Even before the new laws the insurance companies were not releasing information the way they used to. It's about time we got that privacy act.

Sheila, ooooh, cold enough to be wearing jackets. Way too soon, it's only September. Somehow I had the impression that Washington had mild temperate climates, because of the ocean. Well, it is nice to keep learning new things. I get a lot of garden magazines, 4 at least. When ever they feature a garden from the State of Washington or Oregon, I am soooo envious. The gardens are always so lush. The roses are so fantastic, I just guess I assumed the weather was much milder than here in the midwest.

I hope your son gets the job that he wants. The economy is not too great over here either. We haven't hired anyone for a long time at the company I work for. Just tell him never give up. The right job is just waiting for him.

Sue and Connie, where are your home pages? Can we visit them? I kind of got lost in the conversation and I am not understanding how to find your pages. I have a DIL and she and her Mother are wonderful stampers. My DIL made the wedding programs for my son's and her wedding. She stamps all her thank you notes. Her Mother is a quilter and does beautiful sewing also. I tried quilting once, it is still 1/2 done in a box in the storage room, that I did not get cleaned last weekend. Ha :(

Guess what ladies, as soon as my feet hit the floor this morning, well I took a detour to the bathroom first, then I put on my tennies and got on the treadmill and walked for twenty minutes and then did some stretching. Tomorrow, I have to get up earlier and head for the treadmill as soon as my feet hit the floor. I only allowed myself ten minutes to drive to work today and it usually takes about twelve if there is no snow or ice.

Sue, I have plentry of room where I have the treadmill, and I tried watching TV while walking, but it was too distracting and too much noise for me. I have several excercise CD's that are just music I play, and that seems to work out ok for me. Thanks for the suggestion though. And it was only 50 degrees last night in New York. Gosh guys, it is only September. :(

Angel, that was a cute post about grandkids. Every one of them is probably a true statement too. I could probably add some more from my treasure trove of grandchildren experiences if I thought about it for awhile. :p

Had a work day from (well u know) today. Brought it all on myself too. Got too upset over small things, not worth it. When oh when will I ever learn?:?:

Take care forum buddies. Talk to later.

P.S. Is there spell check on this html? Also thank you for the heads up about what ICBINB stands for. I tried every kind of word combination I could think of, before I asked. I did not want any of you to think I wasn't cool or that I was not a with-it Grandma.


09-10-2003, 09:36 AM
http://www.countrycolors.nu/graphics/chocochip/chocsign1.gif http://www.countrycolors.nu/graphics/chocochip/beartray1.gif Hi everyone...gonna have another long day...thought I better post now.:dizzy:

Bluet....that's great that you're inspired to go right to the treadmill in the morning! I can't exercise....but if I could...still would be too lazy for that! You're a gread addition to the thread. I can't keep up, either....just do the best I can. I really enjoy reading your posts! I've got 11 grands...so probably could write a whole book!:D

Willow...thanks for the well-wishes. I'm doing ok, for now. I'll let the dr worry about me.:lol: Hope all goes well with your family visiting. Do you think there'll be any problems with nosy sons & DIL's? I hope not. Hope you can enjoy this visit.

Fatpuss....I can't believe the speed limits there! We can do 70 on Interstates in certain (few) places. Most around here are 55-65. The patrol cars will (hide out) to catch us speeding. I guess they're low on revenue! Sorry you're still having problems with your mother. I'm afraid I wouldn't have the patience you have. Don't guess you have much choice..........


7. Play Dough and Microwave should never be used in the same sentence.

8. Super glue is forever.

9. You probably do not want to know what that odor is.

10. Always look in the oven before you turn it on. Plastic toys do melt.

11. A six-year-old can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year-old man says they can only do it in the movies.

12. The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy. It however makes cats dizzy. Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy........

09-10-2003, 10:57 AM
Hi Angel,

Thank you for the sweet compliment.

Eleven grandchildren, wow holidays must be a blast. :dizzy:

What beautiful graphics you add to your posts. I consider myself lucky that I can figure how to post and add a few smilies to my messages :lol: It is so nice to see talent in other people, you make me smile.

I am sorry you don't feel well. I noticed the other ladies mentioning your health to you, but felt I was too new to invade your privacy and did not want to appear nosey. But, please know that I care and I will pay close attention to the posts to see how you are doing from day to day.

Take care...until later.....I can just tell you are a beautiful person.


09-10-2003, 01:38 PM

Not a good morming for me so I'm just going to make it a short one. My little dog, PD, woke up ill this morning. He's 15 and this is the second time in less than six months that he's been so ill. We said last time that if he got ill again, the kindest thing to do would be to put him to sleep. So we have an appointment in about 20 minutes.

I'm really sad, but I know it's the right thing to do.

09-10-2003, 05:52 PM
Oh, Sheila, my heart bleeds for you over PD. 15 years is a long time to have to lose a good chum. I think you are so brave and such a good animal lover to take the decision you are making - I know I will have to do the same for Alfie in the near future. Words can't be enough but I am really sorry.
Willow, you are having a rough time in work lately with those bosses. I am glad you are making a stand but you could do without all this hassle with the health problems you have had lately. I didn't realise you had 6 sons. What a strong young woman you must have been to be widowed so young and raise 6 lads alone. It's probably that early struggle which has stood you in good stead for the hassle you are facing now. Thanks for taking the time to post the exercise tips but you know what I am going to say, don't you? I would rather stab my feet than do it! I too am addicted to true crime books and order tons from Amazon. The American ones are best and the most prolific though that's obviously because of the population size. Angel, I loved the chocolate icon, I must confess I had some tonight and wonder if you are tuning into my sitting room with ESP! The anecdotes about grandchildren was hilarious and something I hope I can look forward to. I hope you are feeling a little better today. Bluet, what a lovely name for your granddaughter, Anna. I hope it's a lovely day on Saturday for the Christening. I had to laugh when you said it took a while for you to understand Alan Titchmarsh on Ground Force. (He lives in the next little town to me, by the way, about 8 miles away). You American ladies please don't take offence at what I am about to recall because none is meant, honestly, DH and I have American friends. This morning DH and I were watching the local TV news and the lady who played Dorothy in The Golden Girls was being interviewed about her one-woman play which starts on Friday in London. She was saying she likes London but finds it difficult to understand what people are saying. DH quietly muttered to himself "you need English translating into Yank?" That got us talking about our own British dialects and how very varied they are for such a tiny country. My own accent is from Liverpool and when I first came south 30 years ago not many people could understand what I was saying because we tend to talk very fast and with a nasal tone. In the North East of the country they also talk very fast but in such a rhythmical way very few people outside of Newcastle can follow what they say half the time. So, DH had to concede that 'Dorothy' had a point and even his own wife - a home-grown Brit - was, years ago, difficult to understand. Hope no one is offended by his remark, it wasn't meant to be unkind. Alan Titchmarsh stopped doing further series to concentrate on his writing. He has written two 'How to Garden" books and also a few fiction ones. My mother is in fine fettle after her op, rang me today issuing orders for when I go up there and as usual, criticizing everyone at the hospital. Brother and I have agreed to sit down with her at the weekend and set some ground rules with her ie. our lives will not be ruled by her anymore like the past 20 months. I am dreading it but it has to be done because we are both at the end of our tether and as she is only 70, she will probably outlive us both the way it's going. Hi to Connie, hope you can join us again soon. Hi to Sue - know what you mean about chickflicks and DHs, ha ha. Sheila - :grouphug: from all of us to you. xx

09-10-2003, 09:45 PM
Thanks, Puss. Being a pet owner is full of joy, but their lives are just too darn short.

Love your DH's comment! Hey, there are people in the U.S. that I can't understand at all. I remember going camping in New Jersey with my friend from New Jersey. We met a guy from the Bronx (it's a borough in New York) and my friend struck up a conversation. It was like listening to two people talk in a foreign language, yet they were both speaking English (or Yank as your DH would say, Puss)!

I haven't seen those shows you were speaking of, Bluet, but I've heard of Changing Rooms--it's what Trading Spaces here is modeled after, correct? What's Ground Force? My favorite is still As Time Goes By with Lionel and his custard tarts and Jean and her fry-ups.

Oh, my, Puss--you're a size 8 in U.S. clothing. Lucky, lucky you! My clothing goal is to try and get to a size 10. Hey, that must have been fun for DH seeing you in your new jacket--hee hee!

Hope all of you who aren't feeling well are doing better today.

My son accepted a job today that pays REALLY good money. He's only been here 9 days--amazing, isn't it? He's also going to take over my daughter's apartment lease when she goes to bootcamp as well as her furniture and car. Then we'll finally have our house back again! It's working out well. I'm one of those suspicious people who wonders when something horrible is going to happen because things are going well. Hhmm, I guess it already did with my little PD. I've already told my other dogs, who are 12 and 16 that they are not allowed to fall deathly ill until after the first of the year, if ever. I can't face losing another pet this year. Surprisingly the 16 year old is in the best health--hopefully saying that doesn't jinx it!

Then there's my dad. Oy vey! He better stay healthy, too. I'm really cracking down on his diet. He's not going to lose his legs to diabetes on my watch!

It's a rainy Wednesday here. I'm feeling a bit blue--my dog today, and then remembering 9/11 tomorrow, which also would have been my mom's 82nd birthday, and is the 10th anniversary of my friend's death from AIDS. I need to watch some funny movies tonight.

09-10-2003, 10:20 PM
3 AM came really fast today. But, the day went fast too up until this afternoon.
I haven't heard from any of my kids yet about Saturday.
I invited my oldest sister too and my brother and his wife, so I'll have a housefull.
I guess I'll have to put up my screen tent for those who would like to be outside some of the time.
The yellowjackets are really bad. I was sitting in my car eating my lunch and listening to the news today and one flew in the window and chased me out of my car! Then, I went around to the other side and opened that door to try to chase him out, and he came out alright! And chased ME back around the car to the drivers side! I jumped in and quickly rolled the window up while hitting at him to keep him outside of the car! Another woman told me later that she figured I must be in a fight with a yellowjacket because she witnessed the whole thing. She said it was kind of comical to watch.

I haven't even decided what I'm going to have for food on Saturday. I guess it all depends on how many come home.

Guess I better get my stuff rounded up for tomorrow.

Tomorrow is weigh-in at WW.

Sheila, I am so very sorry that you're losing your friend. Hugs to you. I know he felt your love and that made it easier for him to leave.
Geez, this just isn't your week, is it? Better days are ahead.

I'm not going to post much tonight because I'm tired and don't feel the best.

I hope you all have a good night tonight and a great day tomorrow. See you then.

09-11-2003, 07:20 AM
http://suzanvitti.org/images/gif3.gifHi everyone....

Bluet....thank you...you aren't invading my privacy....I have Rheumatoid Arthritis & have a very rough time with it. So far, have avoid the crippling effects of it...probably in later years. Thanks also, for the compliments...I enjoy searching & giving graphics. Hope all enjoys them.

Sheila....I'm so very sorry about your friend. Know that I care.http://www.vfwds.com/graphics/images/roses/bgrose.gif

Fatpuss...I also, love chocolate! Eat all you want...I'll never tell.

Willow...These early morning hours are rough! You can get up at 3am on purpose if you want..I'm doing it, 'cause I can't sleep..........oh well.


09-11-2003, 10:52 AM
Hi everyone - I'm thinking of you all on this very sad day.

09-11-2003, 08:42 PM
Good Evening All. Dinner is over and before I get to the dishes, I will sit for awhile and chat.

Angel, you outdid yourself today on the graphics. They are beautiful, and it is indeed a sad day. Hard to believe it has been two years. Even harder to imagine it actually happened. I am sure we were all touched by it in a personal way. Our accountant at work lost his brother. On a brighter note, loved the list about the grandkids. Just when you think you have seen it all, they come up with something new. You gotta love them. Hope you are feeling a little better. Aw heck, I hope you are feeling a WHOLE LOT better.

Sheila, my heart aches for you. I have been through that too. People who don't have pets can't understand how the loss can hurt so bad.

Bluet, I am really enjoying your posts, sometimes I feel like we have been almost cloned - we seem to share the same sense of humor. Unfortunately, I don't have a website. I have been thinking of doing one, but haven't been brave enough to try yet. If you look at the bottom of each post, it has several different choices to click on. Profile, website, etc. I have checked out Angel lover's and Connie's - both great.

Willow, if you don't hear from your kids, put a bucket by the front door with a sign that says "Donations for Pizza" or whatever. That will teach them to call ahead. :lol: We are going out to the Olive Garden (local Italian restaurant) for dinner tomorrow night. There will be about 20 of us. You may hear about it on the 11 o'clock news. :dizzy: Just kiddin'

Puss, I wonder if your DH can understand Rose on the Golden Girls when she starts talking about her relatives from St. Olaf. I can't for the life of me understand how she keeps a straight face.

:( OK, I skipped out of weigh-in at Diet Workshop last night. I weighed at home and was the same as last week, but I have this little pain in the butt that was bugging me. Called a thrombosed hemorrhoid. YIKES. Going away today, but still annoying. Haven't exercised for a few days, and I am getting stiff. Maybe tomorrow morning for a few minutes.

Time to get some work done. Have a good night, or day, or whichever one of the two is where you are, if that makes any sense :dizzy: Till the next time, Sue.

09-11-2003, 09:35 PM
Hello everyone,
I woke up to see all of the remembrances and memorials going on on television, and in an instant I was back to 2 years ago.
I remember that so well.
I had worked late, and slept in (I was on 2nd shift then) and the phone ringing woke me up. It was my niece, and she said, "Are you watching what's happening on tv?" Half asleep, I thought maybe she meant a comedy show or something. Then she told me to turn it on CNN, and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears.
All I got out was, " We're being attacked. ....... I bet Saddam Hussein has a finger in this."

We must NEVER forget those 3000 people from 80+ countries and their loved ones.
And we must never become complacent again.

I pray for peace in the world.

My day wasn't too bad. I woke up not feeling well at all. Had a sore throat for a while now, but my eyes also hurt, and I was beat tired. I called in to work and took a same day vacation, took another tylenol PM and went back to bed until 7:30 AM. That's enough of the overtime for a while.

I had a huge breakfast, veggie, ham and cheese omelet with whole wheat toast. Green tea.

Then I got busy and forgot to eat lunch until it was too late. Had company for a while. Then had a big supper too. Had squash, chicken breast strips, stirfry veggies, whole wheat toast and fresh strawberries.

Today was WW weigh-in. I lost 5.4 pounds, which puts me at 6.6 pounds in the last 2 weeks. I felt pretty good about it.

Well, most of my kids have called to let me know about Saturday.

I'm going to make chicken breast strips with different seasonings; some cajun, some garlic, some lemon-pepper, ....
Scalloped potatoes made with fat free half and half, a big tossed salad, raw veggies and homemade fat free dill dip, a cheese tray, some whole wheat dinner rolls and a big fresh fruit bowl.
I'll make some honey-mustard sauce and some bar-b-que sauce for the chicken. And flavored waters to drink. Whaddya think?

I need to get busy in my dining room and clean, ... or straighten up. That table is where all my "I'll look at it later" mail gets tossed. :o
Pray for good weather. They keep saying that we're suppose to get rain tonight and tomorrow, but, I don't see a drop yet. I hope it cools off some like they're promising.

Well, I better get moving. Have a good evening all. See ya tomorrow.

09-11-2003, 09:52 PM
Hi Sue, I see you were posting while I was.

Olive Garden! Oh, ... to die for. I had chicken alfredo fettuccini there and ate the whole serving. It was HUGE, and sooooo delicious! Have fun!! I'm envious!

For your other problem, .... do you sit in hot sitz baths?
I had that very thing several times when I was very young. As a teenager, I had to go in to the Dr and they excised 3 clots out of them. Oh, what a relief! It didn't hurt to have it done. They numbed it with novocaine, and even that was just a small sting. If it doesn't abate, I'd go in and have it relieved. That is about the most painful thing there is, other than a tooth ache.
The preparation H suppositories are helpful to keep them shrunk down too. Put a little KY jelly or vaseline on the end of them first to make insertion easier.

Hope you're feeling better in the morning. I've gotten physically sick from those. Have a good evening.

09-11-2003, 10:07 PM
Sue, is there something to click on with every post Charlotte and Connie make?!?!? I don't see anything at the bottom of their posts but a line, and it isn't "clickable" on MY screen. Does that mean that I need to do something to my computer in order to "see" them, or does it mean I misunderstood what you said? :dizzy: :D

09-12-2003, 07:26 AM
Willow, just to the right of the day and time of posting, in square boxes, it says profile, website, buddy, etc. That is where you cick on. Have a good day.

09-12-2003, 10:01 AM
Hi everybody....it's finally Friday!! I'm not usually this excited...'cause the Saturdays are long sitting here with little to do. But, I've worked my "patooty" off this week! Glad that Remicade kicked in!:D

One Day@A Time....thanks for compliments. Yes, I'm feeling better, these days. Hope it lasts awhile! Thanks for checking out my site. I've also, had a large, Christian website for almost 2 yrs now, "Vision of Heaven". I've really enjoyed it. I've got signatures in my guestbook from all over the world. If anyone wants to check it out, let me know...I'll post the address. I tried to make some changes...& used up all the disk space before I finished....so...it's not as I'd like it to be. (Should have left it alone! :^: ) I made another webpage for the board.

Willow...I don't know why you can't see the place to click. Remember, if there's no website for that person....there's no button for it. But if they have one, it's at the same area where the pm is. Hope you have a good weekend with your family. Also, hope you're feeling better.

Sheila....I'm so glad your son got the job! Wish him well with it.

Bluet....Gonna check out your website, when I get a chance.

Fatpuss....hope you're having a great day!

Got another big day ahead....I'll check in when I get a chance.


09-12-2003, 12:16 PM
Hi Forumbuddies,

I am posting this from work, so if it ends up being short, then you know I had some task I had to attend to and had to leave.

Also, just wanted to let you know I have a full weekend ahead of me, and I have been helping my Mother with a problem at her house, so if you don't hear from me until after the weekend, just be assured that I haven't forgotten you and you will hear from me on Monday.

Tonight we have that invitation to the Sacristans Leaders home for dinner and drinks. It is to thank all the church sacristans for their volunteer work. Tomorrow Anna Katherine is going to be baptised, we are invited to our DIL's parents home after the ceremony at 4:30 . Sunday we have my husband's family reunion. Our daughter and her husband that live in Steven's Point are godparents for Anna, so they will be coming home tonight and staying the weekend. So there will be a lot of interaction with our children coming and going and "ME" wondering iwhen and f I should be making meals, etc, etc!!!!!! :o . I usually like to isolate on the weekends, so this is a little much for me.

The problem at my Mother's home is: Honey Bees in the wall of the house and under the enclosed attached porch. The bees are getting into the house. My Mom is 80 years old little and stubborn, for the past two weeks she felt she could solve the bee problem herself. Finally the fumes of the spray she was using and the stress of dealing with the bees over whelmed her and she had to call for help from her children. My sister called me on Wednesday if I could come and help, because my sister is deathly afraid of bees.

Well, I did some research on honey bee hives in the walls of homes, and decided on a plan, and after several "bombs of insect repellent strategically placed in different parts of Mom's house and removing my Mother from her house for the day I think we may have all the bees. Once we are sure the bees are gone, we will walk around Mom's house and calk any existing openings in the siding which will hopefully eliminate the bee problems in the future. :( Jeeze!!! what a way to spend a vacation day.

So, that is where I have been and what I will be doing until next week. I hope all of you have a good weekend. Willow I know you will be busy too with family matters take care don't work too hard. I'll be thinking of you Puss relaxing over in the British Isle :) I know you have Mother issues too, good luck. Angel, Sue and Sheila enjoy your weekend, hope your doing some fun things. Hope I did not forget anyone. :dizzy:

By the way I am still excercising " 4 out of 4 days" so far and have added weights to my program. Thanks for the encouragement. Lost another two punds that makes 22. See ya all later.........:)


09-12-2003, 12:48 PM
Just a quickie to ask Bluet, have you called a bee guy? They are usually really good at getting bees out of houses without killing them. They relocate them to hives in other areas. My friends had the same problem as your mom and hired a bee guy to get them out. Just a thought!

09-13-2003, 05:52 AM
Hi everyone, I din't go up north because mother isn't being discharged from hospital until Monday and DH is delighted. She has been up and about on the telephone to me and my brother issuing orders from her command post up there. I asked her how she was and no mention of the op, just going on about the tinnitus and how no one else has it like she has it. No change there, then. Willow :dance: 5.4lbs! I am really envious, I have piled 2lb on this week at home with tall, skinny DH and matching him treat for treat. I always knew that being at home was bad for me!! ha ha. Your menu for the gathering hardly helps, either, Willow. Hope you all have a good time. Is a yellow jacket a wasp? Bluet, years ago we had a wasp nest in the attic and extermination man came dressed like some space-age germ warfare specialist but it did the job. Seems the last nest of the season contains all queens. I am sure you will all have a wonderful Christening day for baby Anna - I dreamed about my daughter having a secret baby girl last week (probably Anna on my mind from the post). It was so real and my daughter looked so natural holding this little 18 month baby it was lovely. When I told my daughter she said it puts shivers down her spine ha ha. Said she would love them later but at this stage in her career - she is now applying for junior doctor jobs in hospitals - it would be somewhat inconvenient. Looks like I am in for a long wait! Angel, :cloud9: I am really glad the Remicade has kicked in and you feel more like yourself. Your icon of the US is so lovely. In London we had the opening of the memorial garden opposite the US Embassy and a service to commemorate the victims of Sept 11th. 67 white roses were laid by the British families of victims there. Very moving. Sue, I think I have on my botton what you have. I described it (and the pain) to DD and she said I should get it seen to. It would have to be a lot worse than what it is before I show my creepy doc. By the way, I have bought that Prep H in the past but for the bags under my eyes - seems models use it after partying all night. It does work there. Don't worry about staying the same weight - could be worse like me, 2lb on!! Sheila - I am really pleased for you all that your son has found a good job so soon. What do they say..'as one door closes (little PD) another one opens'. How is your daughter doing, is she at training camp now? Well our weekend is arranged - sanding and painting the upper levels of the house. DH and I went to the garden centre as DH is getting paranoid about these badgers and the lawn - it's like a grudge match now. DH bought so much repellant he's begining to remind me of that chap in the film Tremors who has a one-man defence station in the middle of the Arizona desert always prepared for battle with anything and stocked with all kinds of ammunition. It was so funny but I am worried that this may start to come between DH and his rest! Ha ha. When I see him standing guard all night in the kitchen waiting for badgers I will know it's getting out of hand. Have a brilliant weekend, friends. xx

09-13-2003, 09:34 AM
http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/party/tanzen002.gifHEY WILLOW!!! GOOD WEIGHTLOSS!!

Hey Fatpuss.....A yellow-jacket is a member of the wasp family. Lots of people have severe allergic reactions to their sting......http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/IMAGES/V/h.I-HY-VPEN-AD.004.jpg

The wasp has a sting, but I don't think as many people are allergic.....

Glad you've got a free weekend!http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/mix/unsortiert038.gif

Bluet...Sheila....& all....have a great weekend!! http://home.att.net/~scorh3/Resign1c.gif

09-14-2003, 01:49 AM
Wow, Willow--way to go! And, Bluet, another two pounds for you--congratulations!

I lost 1.8 lbs. at my weigh-in, and was pretty happy. I've been piddling along at .5 and .8 so it was great to see it over a pound. I credit the fact that I ate more. Isn't that weird? I ate more, exercised less, and lost more. I guess my body thought I was starving it and was hanging on to all those pounds.

Ah, the wasp sting. I know it very well because one stung me on the eyelid this summer. I think there's a post about it somewhere.

Oh, Puss, you are having grandmother dreams. I bet your daughter doesn't like hearing that! I wonder if a junior doctor position is the same as a resident here? I watched a British miniseries with the guy named Robson (can't remember if that was his first name or last name) who also stars in Touching Evil. He played a young doctor who fell in love with the head doctor's wife. He would have been a resident here, I think. I don't remember what it was called on the show, though. I discovered I get BBC America--I was so excited. I watched part of some mystery show with that Scottish guy from Four Weddings and a Funeral. Also saw part of something about The Braithwaites. I'm wondering if they are current BBC shows or, like NPR, they buy up all the old shows.

Glad you didn't have to go deal with your mother yet, Puss. She sounds like she creates so much stress--and enjoys it. *Sigh*

Today I cleaned the floors in my dad's "apartment" and my DH steamcleaned the rugs. Then we touched up the outside of the house--the only part left to do is touch up the areas in the carport ceiling and then we'll be totally done with painting. I also weeded, and we got two walks with the dogs in. Saw part of the Ohio State/North Carolina State game, too. Just the good part where it went into three overtime periods. My dad was watching it in the living room while we cleaned his room so when we were done, we just watched it with him and ate lunch in front of the TV. He bought us all spaghetti from a place he likes. I wasn't all that thrilled with it, but at least I didn't have to cook. Both my kids were there--they like free food, too!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. It was beautiful here today. Sunny and 70, with hints of fall in the air. Mount Rainier was out in all her splendor and had that wonderful alpenglow in the evening as we walked the dogs. Beautiful!

09-14-2003, 03:45 AM
My name if Jacquie and I have been searching for a group to join that is in my age bracket (59)and you sound like such a fun bunch.

I am retired, have a DH who is still working and 2 DS, 2 DIL's and 4 grandchildren and live in western Canada.

I joined 3FC several years ago then fell off the wagon and haven't lost any pounds or posted since. I have tried WW but just didn't have the motivation to stick to it. Last year I gave a friend of mine all my WW books and she lost 50 pounds !! I have been sooo depressed. I thought if I could find a group to talk to maybe I will find the willpower to succeed this time!!

Looking forward to hearing from you.


09-14-2003, 05:02 AM
Jacqui - welcome to the group! You will find everyone here will support you all the way. Isn't that just the way, eh, you give something away thinking it's no good and a friend thinks it's wonderful? I did that with a battery-powered hair remover ha ha.
Sheila :dance: Well done on the 1.8 loss :cb: everyone seems to have lost this week - :s: weigh-in this morning and I have gained 1.5lb but I will try to get focussed and lose it this week. I know I am better at work weight-wise and DH is off to the Middle East for six weeks next month and it will be easier then too.
Sheila, I loved that series with Robson Green as the junior doctor, Michael Kitchen as his consultant and (name escapes me) his wife. I think Michael Kitchen is so gorgeous though that I would not have run off with Robson Green ha ha. Mind you, I did see him play a real-life doctor poisoner in Dandelion Dead ....Yes, Helen will be in Robson Green's position though not nicking the consultant's wife/husband, I hope. Seems her boyfriend of 2 years laughed at my dream especially the bit where I asked her how she had managed for money and she had said ,"Oh, Mark's been good, he helps when he can". Sounds like you had an idyllic day and evening with the family and productive too. DH and I have to start the painting today...we distract each other too much and end up doing lovely , but non-productive things together instead. My brother said my mother was shivering and covered in blankets when he went to the hospital and my mother was complaining about the tinnitus again and how her DIL doesn't visit. The nursing staff said she is fine, had checked her out and temperature, pulse and BP were ok but she had an anxiety attack earlier and they had to sedate her with a tranquiliser. Said she didn't want her son to have to keep visiting. Strange that because when he does she criticizes everything about him, never says thanks for coming and gives him a load of orders to carry out before he leaves. I can see myself having to go up north in the end because she will behave so badly and make me feel guilty but I feel she is sucking the life out of me the last 20 months. Even her psychiatrist said it's not depression, mainly social and she herself told me last week " I am no good on my own". DH starts panicking at that one, ha ha.
I hope to post a recipe from Rosemary Conley's cookbook - it's a chilli pasta bake and each serving has 250 calories and 3.3 grams of fat. I can vouch that it is very nice.
Hope everyone is having a great weekend, welcome again Jacqui, tell us your goals and which (if any) regime you are following.

09-14-2003, 09:14 AM
Angel - you are just amazing with those grapics. I am sure if I wanted to know what a tamarisk (tamarask?) looked like, you would be able to find one. Wish I could do all that clever IT stuff. Which kind of leads me to an apology in advance..I am about to try to pasta two recipes here but expect them to go all over the place if I can get it to do it..here goes..

Chilli Pasta Bake
Serves 4. Per serving 250 Calories 3.3 gm fat.
8oz (225g) dry weight pasta shapes
2 courgettes, diced
2 medium leeks, diced
2 garlic cloves, crushed
1 red chilli, seeded and finely chopped
1 tablespoon chopped fresh oregano
1 tablespoon chopped fresh parsley
1 pint (600ml) tomato passata
2 tablespoons grated Parmesan cheese
3 tablespoons low-fat natural yoghurt
salt and black pepper

Preheat oven to 190C, 375F or gas mark 5
Cook the pasta in boiling salted water until tender then drain.
In a large non-stick saucepan dry-fry the courgette, leeks and garlic for 2-3 minutes.
Add the chilli, herbs and passata. Stir in the cooked pasta and season to taste.
Transfer the mixture to an ovenproof dish and sprinkle with Parmesan.
Bake in the oven for 30-35 minutes or until golden brown.
Just before serving, drizzle with the yoghurt.
Serve with salad or crusty bread.

· Passata is liquid sieved tomatoes (in case you don’t call it that)
· I have used dried herbs instead of fresh
· If you don’t like chilli, use 1 chopped red bell pepper.

Cottage Pie with Leek and Potato topping.
Serves 4. Per serving: with cheese 359 Calories 8g fat.
Without cheese: 327 calories 6.2G fat.
1lb (450g) lean ground beef
1 onion, chopped
2 carrots, chopped
2 tablespoons plain flour
½ pint (300ml) stock
1 tablespoon tomato puree
1 tablespoon mixed dried herbs
salt and black pepper

for the topping
1 ½ lb (675g) potatoes, peeled and chopped
2 leeks, sliced
2 tablespoons skimmed milk
2oz (50g) low-fat Cheddar cheese, grated (optional)
salt and black pepper

Preheat oven to 190c, 375F Gas mark 5
Boil the potatoes until softened, adding the leeks 5 minutes
before end of cooking.
Meanwhile, dry-fry the ground beef for 3-4 minutes in a non-stick pan.
Remove the beef from the pan and drain. Discard the liquid and put the
meat to one side. Wipe out the pan. Return the meat to the pan.
Add the onion and carrots and stir in the flour. Gradually add the stock,
tomato puree and dried herbs. Bring to the boil and stir until thickened.
Season with salt and black pepper. Transfer to an ovenproof dish.
Drain the potatoes and leeks and mash with a little milk and half the cheese.
Season to taste. Place on top of the meat mixture. Sprinkle with the remaining
Cheese (if using). Bake in the oven for 25 minutes until golden.

· Can use ground lamb or pork instead of beef.
· I recommend that you double the potato quantity if also serving non-reducing people as I don’t think there is enough of it, myself.

Wow, wonders will never cease, though the bold lettering and underlining didn't come out. I have tried both the above and found them to be tasty and I have frozen them in tin foil containers too.

09-14-2003, 09:36 AM
Sheila - had to tell you Robson Green, Michael Kitchen and Francesca Annis were in Reckless and seems there is a sequel to it. Anna and Owen are living together and impulsively decide to marry while Richard is out of the country. Richard gets to hear of it and flies back, still loves Anna and hopes to persuade her from what he sees as making a big mistake. Ahhhh...no contest for me though, that Michael Kitchen wins hands down.
Never watched the Scots detective series, was it called Rhebus? I know it got good write ups in the press.

09-15-2003, 07:10 AM

http://www.fsu.edu/~imsp/silent_invaders/new_weeds/guide/plants/tamarisk/tamariximages/sc12299a.jpgTamarisk reduces groundwater, causing springs to dry up.
Money and hard work are required to get rid of these invaders.
A large tamarisk tree can absorb up to 1000 liters of water per day!

http://www.fsu.edu/~imsp/silent_invaders/new_weeds/guide/plants/tamarisk/tamariximages/sc91399c.jpgTamarisk normally grow only in Africa, Asia, and Europe.
The common name, salt cedar, refers to the tree's thin, cedar-like leaves and the tree's ability to grow in salty soils.
There are five species of Tamarix which invade the U.S.Settlers planted tamarisk as shade trees, for wood, and to control erosion along streambanks.
The "escaped" plants now infest about 40,000 ha in the southwestern states.
Tamarisk was sold to settlers in California in the 1850's.

http://www.tamariskfarm.scsuk.net/graphics/faces/16.jpghttp://www.tamariskfarm.scsuk.net/graphics/faces/17.jpghttp://www.tamariskfarm.scsuk.net/graphics/faces/28.jpgTamarisk Farm Pedigree British Shorthair Kittens


09-15-2003, 01:29 PM
Well, I learn something knew every day. I didn't know that salt cedar is the same thing as a tamarisk. I didn't even know what a salt cedar was until I lived in Idaho. Great info, Charlotte. And I LOVE those kittens.

Fatpuss, I'm glad you knew who I was talking about. I laughed so hard about you saying your daughter was going to be a junior doctor like the Robson Green character, but hopefully she wouldn't fool around with the consultant's spouse. Hey, the recipes sound lovely (I love spicy stuff), but what the heck is a courgette? And what is tomato passata? See, we Yanks really don't speak English, although I'd swear courgette is French and passata might be Italian! :)

I bet your DH did start panicking when your Mom said that she's no good on her own. I can just picture his face. She needs a hobby besides the one she has--making you miserable! Oh, and I think the show was Rhebus.

My DH worked on painting for a while yesterday--not much more to do. We had to take our two dogs to the vet for vaccinations. I always feel bad because they love to go for car rides, then are terribly disappointed when we end up at the vet or the groomer. We need to start taking them to the beach again. I've been giving my oldest dog glucosamine and it seems to be helping her joints. I thought my little MinPin was too fat, but he's actually lost weight. Hhmm, I'm having a problem with my own body image and now I'm transferring that to him--yikes!

After the vet we had to go shopping, which is my least favorite thing to do. Mopping the floor is a close second. Actually, I don't mind shopping at Trader Joe's, but I'm getting frustrated because they keep discontinuing things I really like, and then I have to find substitutes.

No aerobics class again for the week because my son is using our car to get to work. I'll have to pull out my old Richard Simmons tape as well as taking the dogs for a walk. Miss Molly, who is almost 17, just can't walk far enough for me to get as much exercise as I like so walking dogs is my supplemental exercise.

Hope everyone is starting their work day well rested. Hey, has anybody ever applied for long term care insurance? I'm looking into it and was hoping to get some pointers on what to look for. They say it's best to buy it in your 50s.

09-15-2003, 07:07 PM
Good evening all. Don't know where the time goes.

Who would have thought the lowly zucchini would sound so elegant - courgette! Reminds me of the "warning" that was in our local paper one year to keep your car doors locked. Seems there was an abundance of squash that year and people would come out of stores to find a back seat full of zucchini. One lady stood a bunch of them up against her fence with little hats on them. A sign said "It's National Zucchini Week - Take one out to lunch, or better yet, take a few home FOR lunch" I, myself, love the stuff.

Angel - where can I order one of those pink kittens. :lol: They are adorable.

Jacquie - Welcome from one Canadian to another. I am transplanted, but will always be a "Kanuck". I know the feeling of being depressed. I have taken off this weight before (several times I think). You think I would have the hang of it by now. I think we all have the will power, its the "won't power" we need. Like I won't eat that piece of pie; I won't eat that ice cream or second or third helping of lasagna. etc etc :joker:

Willow, Sheila, FatPuss and Bluet :cb: :cp: :bubbles: Any words of inspiration for those of us (?) who are stuck in a tub of molasses. I am going to class this week, up or down, and then will try and get with the program. Once DD leaves next Sunday, I hope this eating frenzy will come to a screeching halt. We spent the day in Vermont on Saturday. I won't go into the details, but the homemade caramel nut ice cream was to die for. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

Just scanning back to the posts about the bees. Had them in the ceiling once. The Bee People came and stuck something like an oversized hypodermic needle through the sheetrock and sprayed. That took care of them. Really weird to hear all the buzzing inside the house!

Guess I better get some dinner started. My turn tonight. :dizzy: Linguine with chicken with broccoli. Till tomorrow - Sue

09-15-2003, 11:22 PM
Thanks, Sue, for explaining what a courgette is. I wonder if gardeners asked their friends if they'd like a couple of courgettes instead of zucchini if maybe they'd get a better response? I love the lady who put hats on them. I like zucchini, too, but quit growing any kind of squash because I was the only one in my family who liked them and even one plant was too much.

You'll get back on track soon, Sue. I have no doubt about that!

Well, my father fell outside the church where he went to vote on the wrong day. He was calling for help for a while before a kid saw him, and tried to help him up. Unfortunately, the kid couldn't get him up, but he did go run and get an exercise instructor who was teaching a class at the church. She was able to get him to his feet and the insisted on putting a big bandage on his knee and a bandaid near his eye. He didn't even tell us this until dinnertime when he came in with blood running down his face (from the cut near his eye) and a big bandage over his knee. I cleaned his face up, but I'll wait until tomorrow to take a look at the scrapes. I'm worried about the one on his leg because he has major problems with ulcerations on that leg because of the diabetes. I really wish he'd use a walker, but he's determined to be independent, so I just hold my breath every time he drives off. I'm going to have to get the name of that instructor and write her a thank-you note. Maybe the scare of being stuck on the ground with no way up will make him be more amenable to a walker. I doubt it, though. *Sigh*

Well, off for another walk with the dogs before it gets too dark. I ate pizza tonight so I feel the need to walk some of it off.

Hope everyone who is near the oncoming storm is getting prepared--sounds pretty bad, but I'm crossing my fingers that it veers away from the east coast.

09-16-2003, 05:17 AM
Thanks, Sue for the courgette/zucchini info. I remember watching Sesame Street with my kids years ago and wondering what some of the stuff was on the A to Z (I know you say zee and we say zed) of fruit and veg. I am the last one to look for inspiration right now, DH and I spent the day preparing the woodwork for painting the upper level and all of the back of the house (eaves of the roof, windows etc) and I ended a good energetic day with THREE cream cakes and Danish pastry. Keep telling myself I will be more controlled when I am on my own next month. My plan to conquor my fear of heights and get up the ladder and paint came to nothing. I got half way up and had to come down. Now I have to watch DH take 10 years over it and not do a very good job - he hates painting and it shows, ha ha. I will do the ground floor at the back. Sheila I hope your Dad is ok now and his leg is healing. He sounds a grand man, independent and not making a fuss. Had to laugh at your MinPin losing weight, being shown up by your pet. I had to smile too at their realisation that the car journey was leading to the Vet, canny creatures. I am taking Alfie to the Vet again on Friday for another weigh-in and blood test. He is still well and eating fish every day fit to bust but forgets to drink. My son said I am like a water **** following him (cat) all round the garden with his water bowl. Then he drinks a huge amount. I asked DH why he doesn't think to drink himself because he obviously wants it and DH made me howl laughing and said "because you do everything else for him, I'm surprised you don't carry him to the back of the garden for a s**t". The thought of it was just too much. Sheila,we have a lot in common, not just the painting, not just that I hate shopping too (of any sort) but right now my son has my car too. Last weekend his broke down on his way back from our house so I gave him mine. We put his in the garage for repair. It's been back for days but .....I guess my car is newer and faster and better image for the ladies ha ha. Angel - my DH and DS are very impressed with you and your images! Seriously, have you thought about teaching? I would join a class with a friendly teacher who taught all the clever bits you could do with a computer. How is the medication now? Do you have an approximate date for moving back into your house? It must be awful having to look on it and not being able to move in. Willow, how did the weekend go? Good, I hope, and I also hope everyone appreciated the effort you put into it. Bluet, did you have a lovely Chritening Day? Jacqui, are you still with us? Finally, Angel, can I have that adorable confused-looking purple kitty? You are a wizard on IT I am sure if you really wanted to.....

09-16-2003, 08:18 AM
Just a few minutes here before I have to leave for work.

It sounds as though you are all doing wonderfully. That's great.

I had a lovely weekend. I worked from the time I got off work Friday at 3 PM until 12 midnight, cleaning and cooking and preparing veggies etc.
Then again Saturday morning from 6 AM until 12 noon. But, after that I did nothing but visit and enjoy everyones company. I did dishes a few times, but that only takes a few minutes.

Then, on Sunday I had a brunch which went nicely too. I like the kind of meals that you can prepare the foods, and the guests can eat as they arrive, ..... kind of casual. That way I can kick back and enjoy their company. As usual I had a blast with the grandkids. They get smarter every day! :D

Of course, I've been eating too much. ...... And of the wrong foods too. But, my sister goes home tomorrow morning, and then things will settle down. I have to babysit for 3 hours this afternoon and evening, then I'm going to another sisters for supper, and that will be the end of the celebration meals for a while.

Sue, sounds like you've been in the same boat as I with relatives visiting and eating in celebration. I think that's what it amounts to. I'm not sure I'm going to the meeting this week. I'll see how I feel Thursday.

I've been very tired lately. I came home from work yesterday and lay down for about an hour. I was exhausted. I slept last night too.

Sheila, I hope your Dad is ok after that fall. It's scarey when they have diabetes and get injured on an extremity anyway, but worse if he's been having problems with that leg. You're a wonderful daughter to take care of him.

Puss, I hope Alfie is in good shape when you take him in. Your hubby sounds like a fun person to be around. As for the painting, ..... I know how you feel, as I'm afraid of heights too.

Charlotte, glad you're feeling good. Interesting info on the tamarisk trees.

Welcome Jacqui! Hope you like it here. These ladies are wonderful!

Bluet, hope everything is going well for you.

I have to cut this short. Need to get to work.
Hello to anyone I may have missed in my hurry. See you all later!
Have a wonderful day!

09-16-2003, 10:40 AM
Hi everybody....
Just a quick post today...gotta go to station...& a lot of work, here, first. You would think....living in 2 rooms of a burnt house, there wouldn't be any work. Only thing...."roughing it" is just that!! :dizzy:

Been through a funeral with friend, (manager at station) & they are all exhausted! They also, had a close friend from Texas to die the day of the funeral...so he's gone (10hr drive) to preach the funeral for his friend! I'm going to be with Connie a lot this week helping out. So if I don't have a lot of time for posts....you'll know why.

Hope all a having a good day
Willow...glad you had a good weekend with your family

Fatpuss....those kitty's were cute, weren't they? I was surprised to find them.

Sheila....I hope your dad's alright. I know that was scarey.

Sue....I'll find that site, again, for you, if you want it. http://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Typing.gif

You kitty lover's might want to check out this site I found!...http://shakandah.purrsonalitydesigns.com/index.htm http://shakandah.purrsonalitydesigns.com/images/kittensheading.gif

09-16-2003, 06:49 PM
Willow, no wonder you slept for an hour after work. Sounds like you had an exhausting but fun weekend. Don't worry about the celebration foods, I think most of us have fallen off the wagon this week. Me, I have been having a shark-fest feeding frenzy on cakes. Angel, too sad to have 2 deaths linked to your station on the same day. I hope you enjoy your time this week there but try not to over-tire yourself at the same time, eh? DH and I got all the painting undercoated except for two back windows so we are feeling pretty smug tonight. Only the fading light let us down at 1915 when we called a halt. Hope to have most of it top painted by tomorrow and finished by Thursday. Most of the houses in our little close (group of 9 houses in a dead end road) have UPVC windows and doors which don't need painting. Supporting two kids at medical school is so expensive that vinyl windows falls a long way on the 'need next' list. In fact, I don't know if new lounge suite, kitchen or car is needed most as they all need replacing ha ha. Ingrates won't even go into plastic surgery or liposuction to pay me back in beauty in my old age!

09-16-2003, 06:53 PM
Angel - those kitties are so adorable on the website, I love their little wings!

09-16-2003, 08:38 PM
Fatpuss, I howled over the visual of you following your kitty around trying to get him to drink. And then what your DH said, OMG, too funny. Have you ever had a dog? Trying to get a urine sample from a dog is hysterical. I've heard of people following their female dogs around with frying pans and ladles and sticking them in the appropriate place as their dog squats. I was so grateful when the vet scared my dog and she peed on the floor so he just sucked it up with a syringe. There was no way I was following her around with a frying pan! So are your kids going to be specialists or general physicians? Hey, you can always hope that they will marry a plastic surgeon!

Charlotte, I'm so sorry about your friends and all the loss they're experiencing. I'm glad you're there to help them, but I hope you don't overdo. So when is your house expected to be done?

Willow, sounds like you had an excellent weekend. It's hard to stay on program when there are so many celebrations and dinners going on. Very few people do--I know I don't! Show me a birthday cake and I'll eat it! But having fun is the most important thing, and it sounds like you had a great time.

My dad's knee is tender, and his chest hurts. I advised him to get checked out at the doctor, but he's stubborn. My DH and I also looked into getting a "push to talk" phone where there's a big button that will just dial home. My dad's response was, why? There was somebody who picked me up. My DH says, well, what if there isn't, and it's cold and rainy. My dad's reply, it wasn't raining. Sheesh! My DH ended up saying, well, thanks for letting me know that you'll only fall down when it's sunny and there's a lot of people around. I tell you, living with my dad is certainly eye-opening in "what not to do when you get older." I'm writing all these things down so I can remember what I said I would and wouldn't do when I get older, starting with "don't annoy my children!"

Lots of rain here. My DD and I got caught in a big downpour without an umbrella. We've been spoiled by all the sunshine we've had for the past three months--gotta get out the umbrellas!

Oh, I almost forgot. Did anyone see Dr. Phil? I normally don't watch that, but I did yesterday and today. He's got this Ultimate Weight Loss Challenge going, and picked 13 people he would personally monitor. I really wish them success. He's going to bring them back each month for the next 10 months (maybe more--don't remember what he said) so I think I'm committing to watching that show once a month for the next 10 months because I want to know how they're doing. And that's how those TV people suck you in. . . :D

09-17-2003, 02:26 AM
Thanks all for the welcome!

I know it will take a little time to get to know you all but I am really looking forward to having someone to talk to while I start this journey once again.

Sheila I know what you are dealing with I haven't been able to post for several days as I have been tied up looking after an independant DM and MIL ..... both of whom should be in assisted living facilities but insist on being on their own. No wonder I am such an emotional eater!!

I have been trying to get back into the WW program but haven't been totally committed yet. I need to get these extra pounds off though as I had hip replacement surgery several years ago and I know this extra weight is not good for it.

Any how thanks again.....look forward to talking to you all.


09-17-2003, 06:44 AM
Sheila I have never had a dog but the thought of anyone following one with a frying pan for a sample is just so funny. The vet actually asked me if I could get one off my cat!! I just laughed. Daughter plans to do orthopaedic surgery and son's not sure yet but leans toward paediatrics - probably because he's still a big kid himself and totally off the wall. Kids love him because I think they instinctively know he is not a stuffy adult, one toy he never parted with was his 'bug box'. He can see bugs no one else can and still pockets them. His girlfriend adores him and says he is 'silly'. Your dad sounds so like mine, very pragmatic and not wanting a fuss. I loved your husband's comment about only falling on a sunny day, haha. The men in your life sound lovely. How is your son's job going? Does he think he will like it?
Jacqui, glad you could join us again. We can all sympathise with you over your DM and MIL. I have an ongoing situation with my mother and I do turn to food when I feel out of control and feeling like my life is not my own. Maybe the way to think about it is 'ok, to some degree others are controlling my life (intentionally or not) but I won't have my food intake controlled by it all. This is me caring and taking control for me and no one is going to interfere with that'.
I must go start the top coat painting - DH has gone to town for more supplies and I am supposed to be starting the downstairs windows not playing hooky, ha ha.

09-17-2003, 08:20 AM
http://www.dewa.com/animated/new2/a-welc~1.gifWelcome to Jaquie! Hope you stay with us.

Well...all is beginning to calm down a little at the station. I think I may take tomorrow off...if all is still ok. I AM tired. I've been feeling pretty good, though. That's helped a lot. It took awhile, this time...but the Remicade treatment finally kicked in. I go back Monday for more lab work to check on the white blood count.

Fatpuss...hope all is quiet with you mother for at least a little while. I'm the same way with turning to food for comfort. It's something I REALLY have got to work on.

Sheila....thanks for the well-wishes. Hopefully things are settling down. We have no idea when the house will be finished. Didn't get enough ins money....going to run out soon. Inside hasn't been touched, other than tearing down all inside walls, etc. We've got to get the 2 rooms we're staying in insulated soon...already chilly mornings! Wish you were here to help paint when we're ready! :)

Willow...hope you feel better this evening. I know that "exhausted" feeling! Take care of yourself.

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09-17-2003, 01:26 PM
Hi Everyone,

Well that weekend is over, and I finally feel normal today. Went to bed early Monday and Tuesday, I was more tired yesterday than on Monday.

Got to see all of my husbands family, children and grandchildren, it was a pleasant time. Rained all weekend, but that didn't put a damper on on our weekend, we just stayed indoors or under a shelter.

I can see a lot of stuff has been going on with everyone. Mostly parent interactions. My Mom's bees are gone, we finally called in an exterminator that spent fifteen minutes there and charged her $90.00. It was worth it no more bees in the house.

I am wondering too, what I will do when I am my Mother's and MIL's age (80 and 90) respectfully. We are not allowed to make any changes to their homes, to improve things for them. Everything has to be their way and they will not listen to anything we have to say about any changes. When we suggest things and leave feeling we have resolved a problem, the next time we return the problem still exists and they are again doing things "their way".

I know I am a stubborn person, and I pray ferverntly that I do not become in my old age what you see so much of now-a-days, and make life miserable for our four children nor become a contankerous nagging wife.

Do you think if we constantly make ourselves aware of it we can avoid that aspect life?

Well, I guess I have run out of things to talk about for now....catch you all later.


09-18-2003, 07:04 AM
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-043.gifHello Bluet...Welcome back. We missed you. Glad you had a good time. I don't know about the old age stuff. I do know most of us try to improve with different issues, as when we were younger. Maybe, it will work with stubborness, also! :lol:

Hope everyone has a good day!


09-18-2003, 02:56 PM
Write it down, Bluet, just in case you don't remember! :) Really, that's what I'm doing. Here's a sample--"Remember when Dad fell and you were worried? When the kids suggest a walker for you, don't be stubborn--go get one!" I've got to remember how horrible it is from the kid's point of view because I don't want to worry my kids the way my dad is worrying me.

Has anyone ever had the dream where they were wearing a skirt and the elastic went out on your underpants? Well, my dad was wearing shorts yesterday, and that's what happened to his boxers! He's of the extremely frugal generation and except for the ones I bought him at Christmas, his boxers are so thin that there is no color left, and all the elastic has stretched out of shape. I've been throwing one pair away every time I do the wash. Don't want to alert him too fast! Note to self for when I get older--throw out old, yucky underwear before you find yourself wearing it around your ankles!

Puss, how's the painting going? Every time I walk around the house, I see little tiny places that I've missed. It's most annoying. The neverending job.

Willow, are you back on track and feeling okay?

We're going to the fair tomorrow to see my cousin's kid show her dog in 4-H obedience. I love fairs, although they are a bit hard for me these days healthwise. Since we have to be there by 10:00 am, I'm going to have to go to an earlier WW meeting, whch kind of bums me out. I look forward to my 9:30 am Friday meeting. But going to the fair should be fun. Now driving there is a different story--it's about an hour away, which often stretches into two hours depending on traffic. Did I mention to you that my son got two more job offers after he accepted his position? Unemployment may be at an all-time high in Seattle, but not if you're a body shop estimator. Body shops must be making lots of money in this town.

Hope everyone is having an excellent Thursday, and if you're in the path of the big storm, I hope you're all prepared.

09-18-2003, 03:40 PM
Bluet, glad you are back and you had a good time despite the non-stop rain. I blame you for my dream of a secret grandchild! Bet Anna looked lovely. Had to laugh about you suggesting changes to your DM and MIL. I would never suggest anything to my mother in that way, perfection could never be improved upon!! Yet she comes to my house and starts shifting furniture away from skirting boards when I am at work "how can you feather duster behind there with the furniture in the way?" To rile her I just say I never dust behind there etc. Then she will tell me I have too much clutter and should box it away. Phew...She was in fine form last night, moaned on and on for an hour how she had just had the worst day of her life (nothing untoward happened) and my brother and I spent another hour on the phone to each other shoring ourselves up!!There's no end to it. My father always said she has everything in the world to be glad of and is contented with nothing. Sheila, I told you we had similar dads. Maybe our grandfather was a trans-ocean traveller. My dad's Y fronts would be holey before he would throw them. Bless him, when he died he had something like 20 odd sweaters we had bought him over the years and 14 shirts all in their wrappings untouched. He liked his 'comfy' ones yet looked a real gent if he was going anywhere. We cremated him in his best suit and crombie overcoat and know he would have gone mad at the waste, love him. How lovely to have a skill like your sons where you are always in big demand. That was a good trade to go into, people are never going to not need body shop estimators. You must be proud of your 'boomerang son' (I love that expression of yours) to have knuckled down. Well, we finally finished all the major painting today ahead of the rain which is forecast. All we need to do now is the front door and wooden panels on a small part of the ground floor. DH is at the hardware store as I type - he was supposed to get mahogany coloured paint but when we opened the tin it was a lovely (but unsuitable) rich red. I pointed out the label and said "Morello, did that not give you a clue?" but he swears he has never heard of morello cherries, oh what a backwoods boy he really is, ha ha. Back to the drawing board. Angel, I have so tried to improve my difficult traits as I got older that now I know that all the kids bad faults come from their father and , of course, their best bits they get from me! Hi to SUe, WIllow and Jacqui.

09-18-2003, 09:28 PM
Hello Everyone!! It sounds like you're all doing just lovely.

Bluet, I'm glad everything went well for the Christening. That is such a precious time.
I got a nice chuckle out of your description of your Mother and Mother-in-law's stubbornness. I worked in nursing homes, and I dearly loved those cantankerous old folks. It's a hard thing to do, giving up your independence, and I suppose even minor things to us, mean a great deal to them.
I've been sworn at, kicked, bitten, slapped, hair pulled, and called names, and I still felt good about what I did for them.
Sometimes, when they couldn't sleep at night, I would give them a back rub, then get them settled in comfortably on their pillows, and just sit and let them talk about whatever they wanted to talk about. And I absolutely LOVED their reminiscing about the "old days". You can learn so much from the elderly, .... you just have to listen. When I say "you" I don't mean you specifically, but everyone in general. I guess I just love old folks. :D

Charlotte, I'm hoping the white cell count is good for you.
Do you have relatives who could help you and your hubby out with repairs in your home? You'll probably end up having to take out a mortgage on your home in order to get it rebuilt. But, even with that, it would be nice if some friends and family and church members would pitch in and help with some of the work to save you some cash.

Jacquie, I'm glad you came back to post. I think it will help you to get in the right frame of mind if you don't feel pressured to lose a certain amount in a certain length of time.
Why not just come and post with us for a while until you feel ready to start? Then, maybe you'll feel more like joining WW later.
I think a lot of times we feel that if we don't have a loss to report every week, that we're letting ourselves and everyone else down, and I don't think it should be that way at all. We learn by doing this in a trial and error format, I think. We pick up ideas, give suggestions, and pretty soon it's working. I've had a gain this week, but, I'm not concerned, because I know I can get it off in a couple of days. That's life. We need to have family celebrations and get-togethers, and then it's back to our plans.

Hi Sheila. Actually, I'm not completely back on track, but, doing better than Saturday and Sunday.
I guess I'm of the old school that said 'never waste food or throw it away.' I need to work on that, because it's a downfall for me every time. I send as much home with the kids as they will take, and some stuff just can't be frozen, and I end up eating it for lunch and dinner for days rather than throw it away.
I got a good laugh out of your telling about your Dad losing his underwear down to his ankles. It reminded me of the time I lost my skirt in front of a carfull of boys I was trying to impress as a teenager.
I lived in the country, and there were a few cars I knew the sound of before they came into sight. A couple of them were driven by present and or past boyfriends. Now, you know how a 14-year-old thinks a boyfriend is a boy that has a mutual infatuation with you, but you've never actually "dated".
Well, at 14 I was more fully endowed than a lot of 20-year olds. And I knew what I looked like. ;)
One day I was all gussied up in a really full skirt that was multi-colored, like a mexican design, with a red top that had elastic around the neck and could be (and WAS) worn down on the shoulders, with a wide cinch belt around my waist. I thought I was alllllll that, and then some!
I decided to stand outside until I heard Jims car coming down the road, because I knew it would be full of those boys. I thought I would just act casual until they got by my house and then pretend to be surprised to see them.
Well, after a while, here they came, so when I heard the car I squatted down like I was looking at something on the ground so as to not seem as though I was just WAITING for them to come by. Of course, they honked the horn when they saw me out there, and I stood up and waved really energetically, and as I did so, the hem of the skirt got caught under my shoes, and when I stood up my skirt pulled down and there I stood, waving in my undies.
They REALLY honked and whisteled and shouted then as they drove by! I could have died! I felt like a penny waiting for change! So much for trying to impress the boys!

Glad to hear your son is doing good in the job market.

Puss, how's Alfie doing?
Your children have some wonderful careers planned. I'm sure they'll realize their dreams, and then some.

You know, I too have a son who children seem to be drawn to. He gets down on the floor or ground to talk with them, and plays like he's a kid again. He's always calm and soft-spoken, and it's as though little ones instinctively know he's a gentle, kind person. We all marvel at how kids will go to him before anyone else.

You know, I realize it's hard on you and your brother, but, I'm becoming rather fond of your mother. It's a bit comical from where I'm sitting, although I'm sure not for you. You'll just have to stick to your guns and not waver, or she'll have you both where she wants you. :lol:

Sue, where have you been? Hope everything is going well for you.

I've been having problems sleeping for a long time and have had a sore throat that makes me cough when I tilt my head back, so I went in to the DR to see if I could get something to help me sleep.
He told me to try benedryl. He said it comes in 25 and 50 MG doses. He said that an adult would probably need 50 to 100 Mg in order to get a sleep benefit. He said it is completely harmless, not habit-forming and no "hangover" from it.
So, I took 75 Mg last night and went to bed at 8:45 and was asleep by 9:15 and slept really good until the alarm went off this morning.
I'm going to do it again tonight, only earlier, because it felt so good to sleep. I hope I can sleep even longer tonight. I hope the sleep wasn't just because I was so very tired that I would have slept that good anyway.

He said the sore throat may be from some reflux yet, so he said to take a tablet at night and in the morning for about a month and see if that helps. If not, I'll have to see an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist.

I've gotten through most of the left-overs from the weekend, except for the salad and a few veggies with FF dip.
I've gained weight. But, no wonder!

They are promising rain here tonight and tomorrow, and the sky is very dark for the past 2 hours, but all it has done is thunder. We desperately need it.

I like this recipe;

Portobello Mushrooms and Sirloin Strips over Spinach Pasta
Serves 4


1/3 cup burgundy, other dry red wine, or nonalcoholic red wine
3 tablespoons light soy sauce
3 tablespoons very low sodium or low-sodium Worcestershire sauce
6 medium cloves garlic, minced, or 1 tablespoon bottled minced garlic
2 teaspoons extra-virgin olive oil
1 1/2 teaspoons dried oregano, crumbled

12 ounces Portobello mushrooms, sliced
12 ounces top sirloin, all visible fat removed, cut into thin strips
8 ounces dried spinach fettuccine
Olive oil spray

Combine marinade ingredients in an airtight plastic bag. Add mushrooms and beef and turn to coat thoroughly. Seal and refrigerate for 30 minutes, turning bag frequently.

Cook pasta using package directions, omitting salt and oil.

Spray a large nonstick skillet with olive oil spray. Heat over medium-high heat for 1 minute. Using a slotted spoon, transfer half the beef mixture to skillet. Cook for 4 minutes, or until meat is no longer pink, stirring frequently. Put on a plate and set aside. Repeat with remaining beef mixture, reserving all marinade and leaving beef mixture in skillet.

Return reserved beef mixture with juices to skillet and add marinade. Increase heat to high and cook for 1 minute, stirring gently. Remove from heat. To serve, spoon beef mixture and sauce over pasta.

Per serving
Calories 378
Protein 30 g
Carbohydrates 45 g
Total Fat 8 g
Fiber 8 g
Sodium 468 mg

WW points = 7

I better get ready for bed. Last day of work tomorrow, ..... for the week.

I'm no longer counting years till I can retire, ....... I'm counting months. I have 30 to go yet.

It just started pouring rain. I love the sound of it to go to sleep to.
Good night all! Have a wonderful day tomorrow. :D

09-19-2003, 02:49 AM
Hi everyone!

Well we woke up today to that dreaded 4 letter word .... SNOW!! Thank goodness it isn't going to stay aound it is supposed to be a very nice weekend but it is a sign of things to come. It seems the older we get the harder the cold weather is to take. If it wasn't for the Grandchildren I would seriously consider moving someplace warmer.

Thanks Willow for the words of encouragement. I think that is exactly what I need to do for now and to quit beating myself for not being as dedicated as I should be. I know I will succeed but I have to be ready.

We have been watching the storm along the east coast on TV all day and were thankfull that is wasn't as bad as they had predicted. Hopefully the rain will not be too heavy.

Bye All


09-19-2003, 08:30 AM
http://www.gifanimations.com/Image/Animations/Messages/Wow/wow_004.gif Snow!!! That's so neat! We don't even get a lot in the dead of winter. Allways so happy to see it. We get very cold, & sometimes icy weather. With the threat of snow.....everyone invades the grocery stores...reckon they think they're gonna be indoors forever!!

Willow...Hope you're doing well. That was sooo funny about your skirt!! I know it was embarrassing at the time. I had a slip to fall down, once, as a teenager. Of course, didn't think I EVER wanted to live, after that!
We have several relatives in my husband's family. They just don't help us. We even announce "work Satudays" with grilling, etc. Only ones that show up are our kids. Bless their hearts...they've been faithful. They, also, have things going on, though. They're here all they can be. Friends...got a few that have helped, a little. Church...mostly elderly...
We did get a call from our lawyer, yesterday. Seems Maytag wants to "settle". Wants to know how much it would take to finish the house. (new Maytag stove started the fire) Not getting our hopes up, but would be nice to get enough to hire a carpenter to help.

Fatpuss....You're right, can't improve on perfection!http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/face.gif

Sheila....your poor dad! It's difficult giving up your comfy undies. Sometimes, we have to face they're wore out! :dizzy: Glad your son is doing well on his job.

Have a great day! http://www.agifs.hpg.ig.com.br/criancas/criancas3.gif

09-20-2003, 12:54 AM
Whoa--I had to save us from staying on page 2!

Hi to all,

Puss, isn't that the way it's supposed to be? Kids always get the best from their mother and the worst from their father. And what difficult traits are you speaking of? I'm positive you have no difficult traits!

Willow, I loved your skirt story. Isn't it nice that you can laugh at it now? I'm sure back then it was horrible. I, too, was raised to clean my plate and not waste food. It was especially hard to break that habit at restaurants. I always figured if you paid for it, you should eat it! Restaurants (at least in the U.S.) serve such large portions, though, and we really pay dearly in other ways when we eat it all. Today I asked for one egg, one piece of sausage and one piece of toast. The waitress said the meal came with two links so I just gave the other one to my DH. But I know that one egg was at least two or they were scrambling ostrich eggs! I ate what I thought was one egg (it was probably a bit more) and left the rest. It was hard to push it away, but I had a 2 lb. loss this week and I want to keep it up! I'm participating in the September challenge in the 100 lb. Club forum and I've vowed to get 4 pts. every day for following my food/water/exercise plan. So that crummy extra egg was NOT going to trip me up!

I'm glad you were able to get some good sleep last night, and I hope the pills help you sleep well tonight, too.

Jacquie, I don't think I said welcome--so welcome! Ah, that dreaded four letter word. I am NOT a snow lover. I lived in Colorado for four years where the first snow was always the second week of September and the last snow was always the second week in May. Then there was a week of spring before summer set in. When I lived in Idaho, we had a house on a corner lot and so we had to shovel twice as much snow on the sidewalks as everyone else. I'm so glad to be living in a milder climate now, although I miss my granddaughter terribly.

Charlotte, that's a bummer that your other relatives don't help much, but your kids sound great. I'm crossing my fingers and praying hard, too, that Maytag comes through with a good settlement!!

Spent the day at the fair, mostly waiting around for my cousin's kid to show her dog. We got there at 10:00 am and she didn't show until about 1:30 pm, then there was another group, and the judge handed the prizes out about 3:00 pm. We did go see some horses, and got hungry and had something to eat, but mostly we sat on hard metal benches and watched dogs. Luckily, I like dogs, but my neck and back don't do well on bleachers.

Didn't get to stay for my usual Friday Weight Watchers meeting, but I did weigh-in. I lost 2 more pounds so the new Flexpoints program has been good to me. Still hate the TV commercials, but like the program. Hopefully next week I will have lost that other pound to make five more pounds since I started my 5 lb. reward box. I will then pull out a slip of paper that has a reward I wrote on it. I am giving myself a reward for every 5 lbs. I lose because I figure I need the motivation now that I'm on the downside of losing 100 lbs.--not that I can say losing the first 50 was easy, but I know the next 50 (well, 46 now) will be harder.

Hope everyone is planning on a good weekend. We're supposed to have sun, which means that we'll be out there doing more dangblasted touchups on the paint job.

Oh, almost forgot my cat story. After dinner tonight I was lying on the loveseat talking with my dad who was at the table, and my DH who was standing up. My cat was just settling in on my chest when my son went to sit on the loveseat across from mine. He knocked into the lamp, which fell over, scaring the cat who used my head as a launching pad, digging in with his back claws. OWWWW! I've got deep bleeding scratches in my head now, and had to have my daughter, who is practicing her nursing skills (yay! she didn't faint at the sight of blood) clean my wounds. I hope Neosporin is a good hair conditioner as well as an antiseptic.

I'm getting ready to get the nail clippers and go round up that pesky cat!

09-20-2003, 03:14 PM
I have slept the last 3 nights with only waking up for a couple of minutes a couple times a night. How come I didn't know about Benedryl before, as a sleep aid???? He promised me there would be no bad side effects, so I'm going to continue to take it as long as I need it.
Although, I'm like a kid in a candy store being told 'take what you want for free!' I went to bed at 8:45 2 nights in a row, and last night, even KNOWING that I didn't have to get up early, I went to bed at 10 o'clock. Slept till after 6 AM and then still dozed off and on till 7:15! God! It feels soooo good to sleep! I hope the effect doesn't wear off or that my body doesn't become immune to the effects.

It was COLD in my house when I got up this morning! I had summer, shorty pajamas on, and was actually shivering so I put on a pair of sweatpants and a baggy t-shirt. I feel so warm and comfortable now. It was 42 degrees here, and really foggy.

At noon it is 70 degrees outside, and I guess it's perfect weather to get out there and dig up some hostas and lilies and transplant them. I had them beside my back steps and a bridal wreath shrub has gotten so bushed out that it hides the hosta and even the lilies, so, time to give them a new home.
My yard is soooo full of dried leaves already, I need to rake too. It's not from fall, it's because we had such a drought that the leaves dried up and fell off the trees. So, I'll have to rake again later on as more fall off naturally from fall arriving.

I got my chairs back, so I guess I'll store them on my porch for now, till I get my shed cleaned out. AGAIN!

I haven't been on here much, so I guess I haven't told you all about the terrifying experience I had with the baby on the railroad tracks.
There are some railroad tracks near my house, and when my grandbabies are here, they are always so excited when a train goes on the tracks and always have to watch it.
Well, on Saturday, my Grandson Logan, the one who recently lost the 2 teeth, was watching a train from my livingroom window, and after it passed, I went into the kitchen and then heard logan say, "there's a baby on the train tracks." I looked out the window, and sure enough, there was a little boy playing in the rocks in the middle of the tracks. My DIL, Logans mother, and I ran like **** to get to him, and she picked him up and we couldn't find anybody around who might be missing a baby. He looked to be 18 months to 2 years old. We kept saying, "Where's Mommy?" He never uttered a sound all the while we had him. He was a beautiful baby with blond hair and beautiful blue eyes. We went to houses and people along my block and over on another street around the corner, and nobody knew him. I finally called the police, and they came after a while, and took down some info from us, and of course I jokingly(or maybe not so jokingly) said, "can I keep him?" By that time he was putting his arms around my daughter-in-laws shoulders and hugging her. He never acted frightened of us, just didn't speak or make a sound.

Then, finally, across the street came a young woman in her late teens or early twenties, kind of jogging out of the long driveway and you could tell she was the mother. The policeman looked over and saw her, and said her last name in a rather disgusted tone of voice. She lives in an upstairs apartment and has a younger sister living with her, and there is a lot of partying going on there.
I suspect that there was a party friday night and that everyone had a hangover and was sleeping and the baby got out of an open door and climbed down those outside steps all by himself. I've had nightmares about that because those steps are very steep and aren't even closed in on the back side of them. When the police went over there, all of a sudden a whole group of people came down from her apartment.
I don't know where he was when that train was going through because we didn't see him until AFTER it was gone, so I'm thinking that he could very well have been on the OPPOSITE side of those tracks, and by the grace of God he didn't come back across until after the train was through.

When the police got done talking with her, they came back to my house and said that they were turning the incident in to the Department of Social Services and that I would probably be getting a call. You could tell that the police were very angry about that baby not being watched.
We had had him for about 45 minutes before she came looking for him, and who knows how long he was wandering around before we found him?
Then, about an hour later, one of my little grandsons found the little guys baby bottle with about 1 1/2 ounces of milk in it out by the swing set in my yard, so he must have been trying to play on the slide and swings and we didn't even notice him out there.

The mother never once thanked us for finding her baby and keeping him safe. In fact, I think she's angry that we called the police for help. It takes all kinds, I guess.

Sheila, you come up with some of the best ideas! I think I'm going to play copy cat and steal your idea of writing rewards on pieces of paper and drawing one each time I lose 5 pounds. What an awesome idea! I just have no imagination, so hope you don't mind if I steal some of your ideas. That's excellent incentive.
CONGRATULATIONS on another 2-pound loss! Geez, you are doing so good! I'm delighted for you that your hard work is paying off.
Sorry to hear about the cat using your head for a launching pad. Keep close watch on those punctures and scratches, so you don't get infection in them. Ooooo, that HAS to hurt!

Jacquie, I don't mind snow in the least. I know it's a hazard when blizzards hit, but, I've lived in Minnesota most of my life, and I think a fresh snowfall is beautiful. I also like colder climate, but that's probably because I grew up in this climate, and I sweat my butt off in hot weather.
The only thing I'm leary of driving on is ice. I just think people are nuts who go traveling when there's a winter storm warning or advisory out. Common sense says, stay put till it's safe to travel.
When we get enough snowfall to use my snowblower, I do my walks and the neighbors too and they also have a corner lot. It's fun, ...... until the wind blows the snow back into your face! :lol:

Charlotte, I too hope Maytag comes through with a fair settlement. Maybe they will pay for a new house. Good kids you have there. Shame on those neighbors. When my neighbors house caught on fire, I kept food and my house available to the family, the firemen and the repair people. It was on election day, November, and it was pretty nippy out. For me, it was just like having a lot of company for a while.

Sue, I'm getting a bit concerned. Hope all is well.

Hello Bluet! How goes it? Hope you're doing well.

Hi Puss. Didn't you have to take Alfie in yesterday to see the vet? Hope you got good reports.
I also hope you're enjoying your vacation!

Well this isn't getting my yard work done. I'll be back later. Have a good day all.

09-20-2003, 04:46 PM
Hi all!

Well it is a balmy 70 degrees outside today, one would never know we had snow on the ground 2 days ago. That is one of the wonders of this part of the country....temperature extremes. We live in a chinook belt and during the winter we can have a temperature fluctuation of 30 - 40 degrees during the day. The only problem with that is it can go from melting to freezing pretty quickly and we drive on ice most of the winter. It really isn't too bad once you get used to it.

Willow I was really dismayed when I read about your episode with the baby. It makes you thankful that your own grandchildren aren't in a situation like that and you really feel for the unfortunate children that are.

Well it looks like a weekend of yard work...better take advantage of the nice weather.

I gathered all my WW material together an am going to get going on the program starting today!!

Wish me luck!


09-20-2003, 07:46 PM
Hey, good luck to you, Jacquie. And I'm glad that the snow melted!

Willow, what an incredible, horrible story. All those awful "what if's" that must have been running through your mind when you discovered that baby on the railroad tracks. I hope social services can deal with the situation.

Have to admit the reward box was not my idea. I saw it on another forum and liked the idea a lot.

Well, here's a hazard of losing weight. My wedding ring fell off and I have no idea where it is or when it fell off. :( I'm pretty bummed about it. The wedding ring I received at our wedding 22 years ago fell off about 2 months after I got it, and I never did find it again. I didn't wear one for a while, then got a cheapie and wore that until this spring when I got a spiffy new one that I picked out and had engraved just like the first one. Now I've up and lost that one! I told my DH that I wasn't getting another ring until I lost all the weight I want to lose. He said that all the old guys at my aerobics class would now start hitting on me! He's such a sweetie! Maybe I'll get lucky and find it. I checked every place I was today, although I didn't check the bag of dog poop I picked up in the yard. You'd think I would have noticed if my ring fell into dog poop, but even if I didn't, I just don't have the stomach to go searching around in that bag and neither did my DH.

The football game I'm watching is just about ready to start after halftime.

09-21-2003, 08:49 PM
Good Evening all! The weekend is just about over and company flew back to Florida this afternoon. Have the house back to ourselves and it sure seems quiet. We did have a great time visiting. Went to Grandson's wedding yesterday and out to dinner the night before. Out to breakfast this morning on the way to the airport. My scale is groaning. :( The last thing DD and I did was to challenge each other with a 10 pound loss by Christmas. I know it is very doable, hopefully my will power will kick in. I like the reward box idea. She left me a card with a gift certificate to our local craft store - maybe I should save that as my reward.

Jacquie - good luck on the WW program. I have a feeling you will succeed. You said you were starting TODAY, not tomorrow or next week, but TODAY. Great attitude. And seeing as how today is almost over, let us know how it went.

Willow, the train story made me shudder. You think of the thousands of women who would give anything to have a child and one like this doesn't have a clue. Sounds like the police had her "number" though.

Sheila, sure hope you find your ring. I have heard of people following their dog around for days waiting for an earring or ring or whatever to pass". I'm with you - ewwwwwwww Have you checked between the mattress and box springs? Found one there once! Slipped off while tucking in sheets. I have a built in safeguard on my ring finger. Its a big knarly knuckle from arthritis. The ring would have to be cut off.


Ladies, I am heading to bed early tonight. Feel like I am coming down with something. The Nyquil is making me drowsy. Just wanted to check in for a few minutes now that I can sit here without feeling like I am ignoring someone. Hope everyone is doing well. Sue

09-22-2003, 03:16 PM
Hi, all--

I thought I'd better post to get us back on page 1!

Sue, it sounds like you had an incredibly busy weekend. I must have missed your post about your grandson getting married. That must have been a lot of fun. Thanks for the tip about checking between the mattress and box springs--didn't find anything, but I was hoping! Hope you didn't come down with that cold. Have you ever tried Zicam? I love the stuff.

Finally got back to aerobics class after a couple of weeks off because I didn't have a car. I was enjoying daily walks, but aerobics is more intense (unless I choose the really hilly walk, which kills my knees) and more fun. Plus then I add a walk after aerobics so that my dogs can get some exercise.

There was a great article in the newspaper today about seniors exercising to stay mobile. There's even a name for the condition that they get when their muscles atrophy from lack of exercise. The writer also talked about the "senior shuffle," which sounds just like my dad, and the fact that seniors who don't exercise have a hard time with uneven surfaces (which is how my dad took his last tumble). It's a vicious circle because then they limit their mobility more, which makes the problem worse, etc., etc. I've been bugging him to go to an exercise class, and I'll even go with him, but he's been resistant. I cut the article out of the newspaper and told him to read it, and then let me know when he wanted to go to exercise class. After that, I'm letting it alone. Same with the diabetes stuff. He knows now what he should and shouldn't eat, and I'm not going to stand over him and monitor his food. He's still able to make his own choices. I feel like Dr. Phil telling my dad to "get real!"

My DH and DS and I went wandering around Seattle yesterday, first to a big book sale for the library, then we tried to find Bill Gates' house. We knew we wouldn't find it, but it was fun wandering around in that area. I told the guys that they needed to take sailing lessons so they could sail by Gates' house.

Puss, how's Alfie? We're all waiting to hear how he's doing.

Have a good day everyone!

09-22-2003, 11:17 PM
Well, the sons of bi----s denied my FMLA!
Because I won't sign giving their health care representative permission to get information about me from my Drs.
They already have all the info about my cancer, and that's what the FMLA is for, nothing else.

I contacted the wage and hour department but the number they gave me to call closes at 3:30 PM and I don't get off work until 3 PM. :rolleyes:
I think they are violating the new HIPPA law, and I'm going to try to find a lawyer that specializes in that stuff. What a bunch of pukes!
I weighed myself this morning and I've gained a little over 4 pounds in the last 2 weeks. :cry:
Soooo, more battle ahead with THAT.

Now, I ate supper, 3 oz. fish, a LOT of steamed veggies, some toast and an hour later, MORE toast with jam on it. And I feel like I could eat ANOTHER meal just like the first one!! It has to be because I'm pissed!

I couldn't sleep last night either.
My chest hurt in the back and my abdomen hurt. I think it's from taking double dose of the protonix for reflux. The Benedryl certainly didn't do any good!
I feel like quitting ALL their damned pills! That's probably what my problem is.
Now, that makes sense, doesn't it?! Kind of like saying, " I'll fix THEM! ..... I'll kick ME!!

Gotta go get some hair spray! And maybe even a DQ cone. They're giving the small ones free today. :D :o

Jacquie, did you start WW yet? If so, how's it going? If I don't get on the ball pretty soon, I'll be at starting weight forever. I just can't seem to get going and STAY going. Something always is going on that I let myself get uptight about. My own fault, though.

Sheila, sorry you lost your ring. I sure hope you find it soon. I hope you had it insured. My son lost his and thankfully it was insured. At least your hubby is good natured about it.

I haven't been going to Curves either. Need to start all over again I suppose.

Sounds like your Dad is one of those cantankerous older folks. I kind of get a kick out of some of the things you tell about him, but I don't imagine it's any picnic for you sometimes.

Sounds like you had a nice Sunday.

Hi Sue! I guess I didn't know you were going to have company. I just was getting a bit nervous because you hadn't posted in a while.
Your scale isn't the only one groaning! Geesh! I get so mad at myself too after I've screwed up.

I haven't seen hide nor hair of the family across the street since we found the baby on the tracks. They have kept their shades drawn, but I see lights on up there at night.
I do get chills every time I think of it. How close that was. That train was only gone about 30 seconds when we saw him. Dear God, I don't think I could survive seeing something like that.

Geez, I just heard a sound that sounded like a shotgun blast. I better get off here and get to bed. My imagination is running away with me.

Charlotte, how you doin'? Working at the TV station this week? I hope you're still feeling good.
Did you hear any more about your house from Maytag? I hope it's good! :crossed:

Bluet, Haven't heard from you for a while either.

And you too Connie! How's it going?

Puss, I think you're on vacation with the mister, right? ENJOY!!

Well, I better get going. I started this 2 hours ago and have had 2 phone calls since then.
Everybody have a great night!

09-23-2003, 04:27 PM
Well, friends....I don't know what I've done to deserve all of this...but....our storage unit was broken into. All of our furniture, clothes, etc., we had stored waiting for the house to be finished....is gone. We had some VERY nice furniture that survived the fire. One of the two bedroom suits (both oak) was one we bought the week we got married 35 years ago. My dad died when I was 21....what didn't burn in the fire....all his things that I had....I could go on & on. I've collected angels for 10 yrs...I had washed LOTS of angels & carefully packed them away....all gone. I can't believe this. The storage unit was so full, my husband had to push on the contents to get the door closed!

Anyway...I'm telling that so say this...our lawyer is adding this to the settlement. He has given me a lot of paper work to do....as well as a lot of running around. I'm going to be too busy to post for awhile. I'll try to come check in once in awhile, briefly. Don't give up on me.

I can tell you one thing....I'm really down, these days.

Everyone take care...know that I'm thinking of you. :)

09-23-2003, 06:25 PM
Hi everyone, sorry lax in posting but had the kids and partner of daughter visiting for the weekend and I took advantage of the labour force and organised a tree/shrub moving, planting party. Had a great time and got lots done in the garden to compliment the new painting job.First day back at work yesterday after two weeks off and I was on my knees by the time I got home. Angel, I am so very sorry you have had this theft happen to you on top of everything else. How bad can some people get? Be sure we will be thinking of you, you must feel it's one thing after another lately. I hope this does not affect your health just as your meds were cutting in again. Jacqui, well done for starting your programme. I don't envy you your snow, we are forecast frost tonight so I enlisted DH's help in getting all the potted stuff into the greenhouse overnight. Willow, I am glad you are sleeping better but sounds like those awkward bosses of yours are doing their best to rattle you with their rules and regs. They obviously don't realise what kind of woman it takes to raise six sons single-handedly!! Don't let the eating or a couple of pounds gain get you down, we have all gained a little along the way of losing, you will get focussed again. That baby story turned me cold. My father always said 'when the mother neglects a child, mother nature seems to cut in and care for it' - or in his case, you and your DIL. Poor little mite. Had to smile at you having Hostas, I have had about six in pots on top of a table in the garden for about 6 years and won't plant them in the garden because slugs and snails will be waiting for them. It's a family joke that mum won't let the babies go. Sheila you big time loser :cb: :dance:. You must be thrilled to bits but I think you are shipping it over to my scales!! I can imagine your bottom was numb sitting on those "bleachers"? which I presume are benches? I have seen the word in US novels but didn't have a clue what they were till now. I hope your cat scratches are healed now and hope you will forgive me for telling all my family at the weekend how your son triggered it all off with the lamp. The young ones thought it hilarious, probably because it is something they could imagine themselves doing accidentally. Have you found your wedding ring? When DH and I were married about 2 years we were at the theatre and he was bored - he had just bought a brand new car and I think he wanted to drive again. So, we left the theatre and as DH reversed the week old car he ploughed into a low wall which couldn't be seen in the rear view mirror. He was gutted at the damage so on the way home as we passed a small forest, to cheer him up I suggested we drove into the woods and get up to some hanky panky al fresco. It was only afterwards when we tried to drive home we realised the car was bogged down in mud. We had to phone the resuce service to tow us out - no prizes for guessing what they were thinking at that late hour of the night. When we got home I noticed my wedding ring was gone and realised it must have been sucked off in some soft mud I had sat in. I howled my eyes out but a good friend who had a metal detector accompanied us back to the woods the next day - there was a pary of Japanese tourists there - and eventually found it. As the detector was bleeping and our friend presented me with my ring, the tourists all started to clap. I think they thought we had just found a random ring. Talk about a night to remember! Thanks for asking about ALfie, Friday's blood tests showed his creatinine (?) levels are normal though the urea is up but still down on previous tests. In short, he is making a fool of us all and continues to gain weight with the copious amounts of fish guzzled every day. He has to take Fortekor 5 tablet every night (seems it was devised for dogs with heart failure originally) but unless he gets sick, only has to go back in 3 months. He still has renal failure as such and still drinks like a fish but I am so glad we have him longer than the vet thought and thank you for your prayers when he was diagnosed. It's DH's birthday tomorrow and he was bemoaning the fact that he will be 59. I said he was still gorgeous and am thinking of keeping him on as my whimsical plaything!!

09-24-2003, 07:03 PM
Hi Everyone,

Sorry about being absent from the forum for awhile. Just had so many things going on, that I couldn't take time for myself to sit down and visit for a spell.

Our daughter, the one who lives next door to us had her baby Sunday night. She had a little girl, thay named her Danielle. That makes our third grandaughter now. First we had the three grandsons and then a grand daughter and then another grandson and now two grand daughters, seven grandchildren in all . That's enough for awhile, I am starting to get weary and I am not young anymore. I hope Puss won't be dreaming about grandchildren again. :) Puss will start giving her daughter nightmares.

Charolette, I am truly sorry about you additional bad luck. It is really hard to be strong when crappy stuff keeps happening. Good luck with all you paper work and police stuff. If you get to the point where you need to let it all out , just tell us we will listen. ;)

Jacquie, it is really starting to cool down in Wisconsin, leaves are starting to turn color, soon they will be on the ground covered in snow. We will be back to hibernating again. ;) I have never been to Canada, even though it isn't that too distant. probably about an eight or twelve hour drive. May be someday, when we retire, my husband and I will go there and take that train ride that they advertise on the television. Looks like a scenic thing to do.

Willow, my you have had a lot of things going on with your life over there in Minnesota. I did not know that you had to deal with cancer in your life. I admire your strength. The baby thing has to be really hard. Living across the street and knowing you are helpless to do anything to make that little boys life better is heartbreaking. I would be a nervous wreck all the time. I'll have to figure out what to do with my roses pretty soon, so I don't loose them this winter. I heard on the radio yesterday that you do not cut them back in the fall, only in the spring after you see which canes have died. Sounds like good sense to me. Also, to put swamp grass around the base to keep them frozen all winter. What did you do with that dang rose you were talking about? Did you every get that thing moved? Sounded as though it was a real thorn in your side :s: something like those people in human resources, where you work. I don't know what to tell you to do. God knows we need the insurance, but it has come to the point were the insurance companies are controling our lives. Money talks, doesn't it. I am glad, all the company is gone, it is nice to visit, but is is stress too, worrying if everyone is satisified.
Of course it is obvious, that you like to cook and bake more than I do. I think I got my fill when we were farming full time. Well, please take care of yourself. I hope your sleeping problems go away soon.

Shiela, Losing you wedding rings what a bummer. :( Losing the weight what a delight. Thanks for the advice, "write it down" you are absolutely correct. I have to give you a lot of credit having your Dad living with you, there are so many people that haven't the patience for that now adays. It use to be that when people got to a point where they couldn't live on their own anymore they would rotate amoung their children's homes for so many weeks out of the year. That is what they used to do around here a few generations back anyway, but it is not so prevelent any more.

Puss, How is everything in merry old England? Foolin around in the back seat of the car, huh you silly girl, I think you have probably read some of those bodice rippers or whatever you called them in your day too :o What kind of work do you do Puss? It sure was nice of everyone to help you with the yard and garden. I sure could use some help before it gets too cold to be outside. The days are getting shorter now and pretty soon day-light-savings time will be over and I will travel to work in the dark and go home in the dark. I hate that. It doesn't last too long though, once Christmas is over the days start getting longer again. I guess, I had better head for home I want to stop and see how the kids and the new baby are doing.

If I think of anything else to yak about I 'll catch you all later tonight
Take care all of you.


09-24-2003, 08:37 PM
I sure hope you're having a good day today.
Mine has been pretty good so far.
First of all, Bluet, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT NEW GRANDBABY! And it's a little girl too! How wonderful! But, it would have been just as wonderful had she been a boy! I just love babies!!

I still have that rose out there, and I'm going to cut it down as far as I can and hope it dies! :lol: I dread tackling it again, but I know I have to.
Have you ever 'tipped' your roses?You just cut them down a bit to take the bulk out, then dig a trench and lay them down on their side and cover them with soil until spring, then uncover them slowly as the ground thaws in the spring.

I have been making a list of rewards for myself if I ever get on the ball and start losing weight , and if I can have a loss every month without any gains, until next June, I'm going to Manitowoc. So, be prepared! I want to see the River Walk again.
You know, it seems like I ALWAYS have a lot going on in my life! ..... And always stressful stuff too. I just must not live right! ;)
As for work, ...... I think I'm getting that taken care of.
Yesterday I contacted the Federal office I needed to use, the US Wage and Hour Referral line, (1-866-487-9243, 8 AM to 5 PM) and they gave me the number to call for my state. I called today on my break and left a message stating what time I'd be done work, and they called just as I drove into my driveway.
The gentleman I talked with said there is NO SUCH THING AS DENYING A FMLA if your physician has completed a form and given certification that you need it.
They also cannot force you to sign anything giving them permission to have contact with your physician. Once you say "no", that's it. It goes no further.
The Employer CAN request that you get a second opinion, but, it can be with a physician of your choice, and at the employers expense, including wages for any time lost from work to keep the appointment. AND, the second opinion physician doesn't have to reveal anything to the employer either except whether he/she concurs with your personal care provider. :smug:
And, to top it off, this gentleman was going to call my place of employment and bring them up to date on the laws. He said if he didn't get ahold of them today, he would call them in the next day or two, then he will call me back to let me know that he has talked with them.
He also said it would be illegal for the employer to give me or anyone on an FMLA Dr appointment an unexcused absence, EVER. :p So, I feel a lot more relieved today. :D

Charlotte, how very sad for you! My thoughts and prayers are with you. I pray that the law finds the thieves and can get your valuables back for you. I'm right next to positive that the stove manufacturer will have to make whole any losses and pain and suffering caused to you.
Good luck my friend. Will be waiting to hear from you.

Puss, see? The prayers are still going out for Alfie, and it's working! He sounds like a little tuffy!

I never thought of a planting party! Maybe I should have had everyone get out there after that blasted rose bush when they were all home. I guess, if I put my mind to it, I'll get it done, I just dread starting it.

Wish your hubby a Happy Birthday from me, and maybe you can make him forget he's 59 by taking him to the woods again. :lol: Only, take off your rings before you go! :s:

Have you ever put egg shells around your Hosta's? They say slugs won't crawl over the sharp edges. I've only had problems with slugs once, a few years ago when we had an exceptionally wet summer. I put roofing shingles around my plants. They still got into my rhubarb though.

I am planning on going to WW tomorrow night, even though I know I've had a big gain. But, what the hey! That's what we all do, all our lives! Very few people are exactly the same weight every day, and I know I'll do this yet! I just need to get to the point where my losses outnumber my gains!

Jacquie, I hope the WW is going well for you, if you have started it. If you haven't, that's ok too. All in good time, and when you're ready.
It has been pretty cool here the last couple of days, and very windy tonight. I suppose you're having even colder temps up there.
I think it's so very beautiful here right now. Wish it could last longer than it does.

Sheila, have you found your ring yet? I hope so.

What has Pop been up to lately? I'm getting to look forward to reports on him too! :lol:

I'm having a hard time coming up with 20 things to reward myself with for every 5-lb loss. I've only come up with 10 so far, but, at the rate I'm going, I won't ever have to worry about using them! :dizzy:
Plus, I'd like a couple of bigger rewards at significant loss points.

Sue, are you all adjusted to having your home and life back to normal? It always takes me a couple of days to unwind.

Well, I better get a move on here. Everybody have a wonderful evening!

09-24-2003, 08:43 PM
Congratulations on the new addition to your family, Bluet! Seven grandchildren--wow! Must be a lot of fun when they all get together. Tiring, too, though. I have one granddaughter and watching her for most of a day can be exhausting. I was hoping for another grandkid this year, but my son got laid off so they scrubbed those plans. My son started school so it will be another four or five years before they try for another child or perhaps adopt. I doubt my other son will have children (that's what he says), but never say never. And I certainly don't want my 20 year old daughter to even think of children for a long, long time!

Puss, I read my DH your last paragraph about your DH's birthday. He got quite the chuckle. I was of course laughing uproariously about your escapade with the car. My stomach hurt! Glad your cat is doing okay and has decided he would rather stick around and eat fish. My DH just went to pick up my little dog's ashes. I kept trying to do it, but couldn't bring myself to go to the vet's office. Once I see that box, then it will be real, if you know what I mean.

Charlotte--how awful for you guys! It's so sad that there are such creepy people living near you, people who feel the need to steal an angel collection, for goodness' sake. Does the storage unit have security cameras or anything that might help figure out who did this? I hope you can keep your spirits up after yet another setback. Your attorney better be a good one, or we'll all be coming there and fighting for you!

Shoot, Willow, can they really deny the FMLA based on the fact that you won't sign their form? I hope you were able to talk to someone about this. What a load of patooie!

We're gearing up for my DD's anchors aweigh party. I've got the cake ordered (has a flag, an anchor and a ship on it) and I figure we'll have pizza because I don't want to cook. I know my stepdaughter is coming, and my cousin, but people just don't seem to respond to R.S.V.P. anymore. It's frustrating. We're going out to dinner on Friday night to celebrate her birthday (which is tomorrow, but she's in Idaho visiting friends). I'm trying to plan what to have, and what not to have. I love fish and the restaurant is on the waterfront so I'm assuming there will be lots of fish choices. Hopefully I can get my dad to share a dessert--just got to have dessert when you go out. And a glass of wine. Luckily, I will have saved all my WW flexpoints for that occasion.

It's been so lovely out this week. Sunny days and cool nights. Don't have a lot of energy lately or I'd be out there doing something in the yard because it's perfect weather for that. I have two strong kids around--wish I had some shrubs to move! :)

Okay, Willow--we posted at the same time! I'm so glad you got the answers about the FMLA and that they were all supporting your position. That's pretty cool that the guy is going to talk to your employer. I hope everything goes well.

I haven't found my ring yet, but I'm still hoping it will appear. Maybe I just need Japanese tourists cheering me on.

09-25-2003, 06:27 AM
Bluet - congratulations on your new Grandaughter, I am so envious! Your post about having 7 grandchildren took me back 22 years when my father came home from work and said he had announced with pride that he was now a grandfather and all the chaps he worked with were saying "Yes, it's great, isn't it, I've got 10" or "I've got 14". Ha ha, not in the same league. He only ever got three but his eldest brother had nine kids and my aunt had to keep a special book for all the birthdays of the grandkids. Dad couldn't have coped with that, he could never remember the ages of his own two kids! Farming full time sounds so good, Bluet, but that's what all the city folks think, I guess. Was it livestock or grain? I bet it was hard work and I wouldn't fancy working in the bad weather or the early mornings and late nights. Still, must have been lovely for your children. I work for the Government in Customs and Excise. I do audits visiting companies and going through their books and stock checking on their international imports/exports making sure they are declaring the right duties etc. I enjoy it, out of the office most of the time, can work from home writing reports etc and meet some lovely people. I also help them understand various ways of importing/exporting where they can save money so it's not all big watchdog stuff. The UK is freezing right now and summer is officially over - it's the equinox or something. Willow, I am so pleased the chap from the US Wage and Hour referral helped sort your company out. It's outrageous that they are not up to date with the legislation. Willow 1 Comany 0 :cb: I have tried eggshells for the hostas and beer left in a beer can for slugs and snails. The beer is the better option though only a few slugs actually drink themselves into oblivion. Don't worry about the gain - I am still gorging but know that when DH leaves on Saturday I will get focussed again. FitDay is a must in future. Sheila, what do you plan to do with PDs ashes. It will be a really sad time for you. I don't know what I will do with Alfie when the time comes. I did think of burying him in the back garden at his favourite sun spot but I don't know if that would be a good idea. You must be so proud of your lovely daughter and I am sure you will miss her when she goes. I have never heard of an anchors ahweigh party but what a great idea. I am SO impressed at your resolve over saving points to share a dessert with your DD. (I've just eaten a chocolate eclair cake left over from DHs birthday). You really are on a roll right now and I just hope I can pick up again once DH is not here. I hope your ring turns up but if it doesn't, you have the hand of the fella who placed it on your finger and that's much more precious than any ring. Regards to Jacqui and Sue - I miss your posts. Sue, my son is staying over for a couple of nights because the hospital he is working at is nearer our place than his. I know he would love to talk fish and boats with you, ha ha.

09-25-2003, 08:13 AM
Angel - I saw this and thought of you:

"He knows not his own strength that hath not met adversity"

Ben Jonson's 'Explorata' 1640.

Hope you are feeling ok and not too down or overdoing work at the station.

09-25-2003, 08:27 AM
Hi everybody...just a quick post while breakfast is cooking. Thanks for all the kind things said. It meant a lot to me. It's been a rough year....but we'll make it. As far as the angel collection. They couldn't tell what they were getting. I had cleaned & packed all of them in boxes...also, what was left of my dad's things that survived the fire. I have nothing of his, now. They can't steal my memories, though. There was a lot taken....when I added it up for the police, it came to at least $20,000. I know...bad idea about storage unit....but after the fire, there was no choice. DH just finished a shed, & was going to go get it all. A settlement may replace some things, but not the many things that were sentimental to us. Maybe, with time, my heart will heal....for now, it's broken. Lost some in fire...the rest, deliberately taken. Well, they will pay....maybe not here.

Bluet...congrats on the new grandbaby! They are grand!! I have 11!

Gotta go....all take care. I'll post when I can. :grouphug:

09-25-2003, 08:33 AM
Fatpuss....I just saw your post......thank you.:)

09-25-2003, 11:05 PM
I am so very tired tonight as I didn't sleep well last night.
Not going to be a very long post, but I wanted to say Hi to all you gals at least. More tomorrow. In the mean time, here's to you all. Hope it perks you up. From my heart.


09-25-2003, 11:53 PM
Hi Everyone,

Willow, sorry you are so tired, wish there was something we could do for you. "Tiltld" was so precious, thank you for sending it to us, it made my day. Well, all I can say is you had better starting losing that weight because I am looking forward to you coming to town. We will have a good time at the River Walk. Too bad we couldn't all meet at the River Walk next year. Wouldn't that be terrific?

My grandson had his tonsils out today and I took a day of vacation and took care of his sister. My daughter took the new baby with her to the hospital because she is nursing. I stop to see him tonight, he is home again, same day surgery. He seemed to be ok but he is taking a stronger type of Tylenol. He was whinning because he was hungry and his throat hurt too much to eat anything. Some days are just a losing battle girls, but being women we just keep on fighting the battle.

Another cool day for us. The weather man said more cool days and some rain in the forecast. I know I won't get done everything I wanted to do outdoors, But I think I should at least turn off the pump to our little pond and drain the water out before it freezes. Every year I say this is the last year for that pond, but then I don't give it up. I did not put fish in it this year because, I always struggle with what to do with them when summer is over. One year I put them in the river and last year I gave them to a friend who had hers in an aquariam in her basement.

Yes, we farmed for 30 years and then my husband went back to school to learn electronic technology. when he graduated we sold the cows and just raise your stock for a neighbor now.

We had 45 registered holsteins and 50 young stock for replacements. We grew and harvested all our own crops. Farming is a 24/7 job with a lot of responsibility attached to ones shoulders. Some days I it, and others I am thankful we no longer have a working farm. My husband is the third generation to live in this house and farm the land. Our son was not interested in farming after he moved away from home, so we are still here after 38 years.

Charlotte, hope things are getting better. I was happy that you found time to post.

Puss, sounds like you have a mighty interesting job. Good for you, I'll bet your days just fly by.

Sue, Jacquie I am falling asleep as I type this post. Please foregive me I have to go get ready for bed. Catch you all later.


"My heart is warm with the friends I have" Edna St. Vincent Millay

09-26-2003, 03:14 PM
Well, I used to live in Idaho, which is heavily Morman and also farm country so large families are the norm. When you'd read the obituaries, people would have 24 grandchildren or some such amount. You'd have to have a computer program to keep track of birthdays! My dad keeps forgetting my son's name, and my son is living with us. Dad calls him "the other guy" to differentiate my son from my husband who is "that guy." I get a huge kick out of it, actually. Thankfully, he remembers my name.

Bluet, farming always sounds fun in theory, but I know in reality, it's very hard work. It's quite sad to see all the farms disappearing into housing developments. When I lived in Idaho, there was always flak when people in new housing areas would complain about the farm smells from their neighbors next door. I figure if you want to move to the country next door to a pig farm, you'd better be prepared for the smell!

Well, just got back from my weekly weigh-in and I dropped 3 lbs. this week. I'm quite pleased. I'm also on the 100 lb. board here and we have a monthly challenge. My goal this month was to have a perfect score of 4 pts. each day (1 for exercise, 1 for water, and 2 for following your food plan), and I've managed that so far. Only four more days to get through! I never knew how competitive I was, but setting these goals has been really helpful to losing weight. I just have to make it through the next two days (birthday party and going away party).

Was kind of bummed this morning because I've been noticing that I'm experiencing a lot more pain when I exercise. I DO NOT want to stop exercising so I just exercise through it, but it's gotten a lot harder. I pretty much exercise in the morning, then have to rest a lot for the rest of the day, doing a little housework now and again. It ticks me off big time--I get really mad at my body. I force myself to walk my dogs in the afternoon, but we aren't going very far anymore. Luckily, my 16 year old has slowed down a lot (unless she sees a squirrel, then she's a puppy again and pulling with all her might!) and doesn't want to go too far. My MinPin, on the other hand, doesn't like the shorter walks.

Puss, sounds like a great job where you get to meet lots of new people and do different things. One of my favorite jobs was being the volunteer coordinator at an animal shelter. I met new people all the time plus got to work with animals, too. And the people were all animal lovers so we always had something in common.

Well, time to hit the shower and get on with the rest of my day. I've got to get crepe paper, balloons, and paper plates for tomorrow's party.

Hey, Puss, I was reading a Michelle Spring mystery (set in England) and she mentioned something called a "snicket." What is that? Would be funny if that was a misprint--I'd never know!

09-26-2003, 06:34 PM
Hi All!

Sorry I haven't posted for a couple of days. Things have been really hectic here. We have been making arrangements to move my mother into an assisted living complex so the next few weeks will be busy. Needless to say there will be a lot of down-sizing to do with the move !!

The weather here has been beautiful......I guess the snow was just a little teaser. Hopefully it will stay like this for a little while so we can get all the yard work done and the RV put to bed for the winter.

The diet is going quite well!!
I am sticking to WW..... but the water and I aren't getting along too well. I do know the importance of water an any diet but it is hard....any suggestions?
A friend of mine gave me her book on the South Beach Diet so I
will read it to see what it is all about. I do however have trouble with diets that make you give up ALL your carbs. I think moderation works best for me.

Congratulations Bluet on the new grandaughter!! It is so exciting. I have one 6 months old and she is growing so quickly. I just wish she could stay a baby for a little longer.

Charlotte my thoughts are with you. I can just imagine the emotional turmoil you are going through.

Puss, Sheila, Willow and everyone have a good weekend !!


09-27-2003, 09:41 PM
Is anyone else having withdrawal symptoms? .... Or am I the only wuss on here? :D

As I'm typing this I'm having an ice cream cone of Butter Pecan Tofutti. Milk free. No butterfat. No cholesterol. 210 calories per 1/2 cup. Made from soy protein but it also has sugar and corn syrup in it. Very tastie! and creamy. Good flavor. I bought a pint of it just to see if I'd like it. I do.

I didn't go to bed until 3:30 this morning, and I was awake again by 7 AM, so I took a little snoozer this afternoon for about an hour. Was THAT ever a weird feeling, sleeping in the middle of the afternoon.
I had whole wheat spaghetti and Ragu "Mama's Meat Sauce" spaghetti sauce for supper tonight. Tasted good. And right now I'm drinking a 20-oz. bottle of Klarbrunn Lemon flavored sparkling water. I like all the flavors they have, and no calories to it.

As for the company I work for, ... I have no doubt they know EXACTLY what the laws are. They do have a legal department, after all. I think they were counting on ME not knowing what the laws are. Anyway, the federal office was playing phone tag with the guy yesterday.

Sheila, I laughed so hard about your Dad not remembering your husband and sons names. I'm glad that your son understands and doesn't get hurt feelings over it.
Congratulations on the 3-pound loss! Geesh, you're doing sooo
good, and I'm not doing anything. But, at least I'm not gaining anymore either.
I hope the pain goes away for you. That's so awful to be trying so hard and have that darned pain to contend with too. Is it all over your body that the pain is, or in a more specific spot? I was just wondering if a TENS unit might help block the pain for you.

Charlotte, a big hug to you. Hope you're feeling in a little higher spirits by now.

Puss, your job sounds so very interesting. Something new every day. You must meet many interesting people.

Bluet, I think it would be a blast for all of us to meet at River Walk.
How is your little grandson doing after his tonsilectomy? Hope he's feeling some better.
I never farmed, as such, but I lived in farm country. We were at the neighbors farm more than at our own home sometimes. We loved it up there, but, we didn't HAVE to do all the work either. We loved helping them, but, when we got tired of it, we went home. :lol: My mom and Dad just raised chickens, geese, ducks, and Mom always had a huge garden. Did lots of canning.

Jacquie, I'm glad to hear it's going well on the WW plan. You'll gradually work your way up to the full amount of water. It's hard to do when you haven't been in the habit of drinking the right amount. I had kidney stones and the Urologist told me to gradually start increasing my water intake each day until I was up to a minimum of 2 liters a day. He said to put that amount into several bottles in the fridge, and begin sipping on it in the morning, and keep doing that all day. At first I thought I would pee my pants because it seemed like I had to go every couple of minutes, but, he said that would happen and that it would let up after a while because it takes a while for the bladder to get used to holding that amount. Especially when you're like I was and maybe drank a glass of water a week!
Anyway, he was right, and it did finally settle down, and now I can go a couple of hours in between trips to the bathroom. I usually quit sipping water a couple of hours before bed too.
Does your Mother mind being moved into an assisted living home? It helps a lot if they are willing to go. It's so hard to take care of them by yourself.

I was going to see if my grandson wanted to earn some money this weekend and help me get some raking done in my yard, but, it's been raining. I know it'll need to be raked again too.
I too have a hard time on a restricted diet like Atkins, etc. I like low carb, or mostly protein, but I also love my vegetables, and whole wheat bread.
I still believe the best thing for weight loss or good health is staying active. Of course, healthy eating too. I ordered the book, " FOOD FIGHT" and it should be in Wednesday. It's all about what we already know, ... how the food industry keeps offering us these killer foods, and we keep right on sitting on our a$$es in front of televisions and pc, and now plunk our kids there too as infants, and keep right on eating these fast and easy foods. Now, when I say "we" I don't mean you girls and I, per se. I mean society in general.

There was an article in todays local paper about a man who is a special needs person, and he decided to lose weight this summer, and he decided to keep records of how many times he climbed the ladder and slid down the water slide at the local Aquatic Center. He even kept count of how many steps it was to the top, and how many times each day he went up there. Entered it into a note book journal as soon as he got home every day. At any rate, he lost 30 pounds from June through August. Now, he's going to ride his bike around the bike path every day until it gets too snowy for that, then he's going to go to the YMCA and walk/run around the indoor track there during the winter. He's going to keep track of everything, and then he's going to try to beat his records next year. He said he intends to do this the rest of his life.

Hello to you too Sue!!

I hope I didn't miss anyone. Sorry if I'm not thinking right tonight. That age thing, you know. :D

Everyone have a good evening. See ya later!

09-28-2003, 11:11 AM
Sheila, I just love your dad! "that guy, and the other guy" and his independence. My uncle in the US came to my mother's before DH and I were married and all the time referred to my now DH as "ol, whats-his-name". Ol-whats-his-name was only 27 and my uncle 51. My brother and I thought it hilarious that he couldn't be bothered remembering DHs name and we still wonder if he can remember it 32 years on, ha ha. I guessed a snicket was an alleyway but looked it up in my dictionary to make sure. It comes from the north of England (my guess is Yorkshire way) and it's the narrow path which runs behind back-to-back small two-up, two-down, terraced rows of houses. It's the lane where you put your garbage bins out for collection and usually have a gate leading off it into a small cobbled yard (not garden) to your back door. Where I come from we call them alleys or the back alley but there are lots of different names for them depending on where you live - see? Tiny country, mass diversity. Another three pound loss???? Hubby's not got all amorous and chashing you round that newly painted house, is he? You have done SO well, Sheila, well done. I hope your pain on exercising is not too bad now. WIllow, withdrawal symptoms?? I am eating like a hog lately and all the wrong stuff. I MUST get back on track when I go back to work tomorrow. DH left yesterday so had a little reshuffle on the car front. I got his (much newer than mine) and son got mine and the drive has got son's for 6 weeks. I can't understand how you can't hack a siesta, Willow. I love them on Saturdays and Sundays and start flagging if I don't get one. I could do with them on Mondays to Fridays though I can't quite see how I could persuade the boss.... Did you have a good time raking with the DGS? The leaves are all falling here now so DH picked a good time to go away. As if I didn't have enough with the badgers, the squirrels are burying their nuts all over the lawn too. I have a big hazelnut tree in the back and they love it. They also go to the toilet from a great height off a tree in my front garden over my car, lovely. Jacqui, my mother is on a waiting list for assisted living at the same place as her sister. She was offered one last week but it is the smallest on the site. She said she would never get her furniture in so we had to explain that the stuff from a three bedroomed house is never going to fit into a one bedroomed place. "oh, yes, I know, but...." I am learning a little now to remember that whatever I say won't matter a jot so am trying to save breath and sanity. I don't like drinking plain water either so I drop some lemon juice into it or a slice of lemon you can buy ready cut etc in a jar. Bluet, I hope your little GS is over his op now. How resourceful of your DH to re-train from farming. You must be proud of him as it's not easy to change careers mid-life. Occasionally in my job I meet people who used to do things totally different to the job they have and I am amazed at the skills people have. Angel, I am glad you seem out of the initial despair, you seem to have some very loving family members to see you through this. When my father died unexpectedly in hospital we had his clothes returned in time after the post-mortem etc but his brand new, expensive shoes were missing and we had to cremate him in his other ones. My mum was upset that someone could steal under such circumstances. My brother and I told her that anyone who could steal from a dead man was never going to prosper, lowest of the low, especially as my dad was such a considerate man, he'd have given them to anyone who didn't have a decent pair of shoes to walk in. What goes around comes around, I think you say. Well, I am having to go back to FitDay tomorrow and knuckle down to this again. I am now 148.5 and was 145.5 in mid-September. I must stop messing around with food. I was looking at an old log book of my weight and the heaviest I ever was was on 4th January 2000 and I weighed 179lb. The lowest I got to was 150LB in February 2001 then it was up and up to 164lb when I joined here. In between those times I kicked the healthy eating so I am determined that this three pound gain I've had for weeks is not the start of the rot again. Regards to absent friends, hope all is well with you.

09-28-2003, 06:07 PM
Hey, Puss, thanks for looking up snicket. Given the context, I thought it was something like that, but wanted to make sure. Man, stealing your dad's shoes--that's low. I like what you guys told your mother, though. Ah, yes, you're learning the lesson that my DH has been finding difficult lately. He's been into arguing with my dad, which just doesn't work. I told my DH to just smile and say, "Probably so" or anything but argue. He'll never win, and why would you care about winning an argument with an 87 year old?

Willow, I, too, have a hard time taking afternoon naps. I occasionally do fall asleep, but it feels too decadent, and I'm afraid I'll wake up too early the next day. Sometimes I feel kind of disoriented if I fall asleep during the day.

Well, the going-away party for my daughter went well. I love Weight Watchers--I ate cake and ice cream and two pieces of pizza and it fit right in to my program. I even ate cake and ice cream again today and still have points left. It's so cool! Saw my cousin's new granddaughter, who was born on July 4. Her son is my daughter's age, and my cousin is only 40 so she's a pretty darn young grandma. The baby was kind of fussy--cried for everone, but mom. I thought the stranger thing didn't happen until much later. Her mom did say that she prefers blonde women, and I'm not. Oh, well. Such a difference from my own granddaughter who only cries when she's ill, and has always been like that. But then again, she's a truly special miracle baby so I'm biased. :)

Another gorgeous day. We're going to the beach and then to look at some furniture for my son. My DH and I took our dogs for a hike in the "urban wilderness" near our house. We forgot about stinging nettles, though. I haven't been in an urban forest in years so I'd forgotten that there are things like poison oak and stinging nettles right near the trails. Ouch! We had fun, though, and it was a good hour's walk with plenty of sweating. My male dog got very dehydrated, though--lots of stuff for him to lift his leg on! He hit the water bowl the minute he came through the door. Had to tank up in case we go for anymore walks today where his plumbing will be tested.

Hope everyone is having a relaxing, enjoyable Sunday.

09-28-2003, 08:34 PM
Mine was very quiet.
Today is laundry day, and I'm just about done. 2 loads to dry yet.

I've been taking summer clothes downstairs, and washing winter clothes (just because they've been stored for the summer. They're already clean! :D ) and bringing them upstairs. Oh my, .... change of seasons again.

I've been watching documentaries all afternoon about the human brain. The programs have been on the public television channel. It's very interesting, but, right now they're talking about alzheimers, and they have actual patients on there. It's scarey! I swear I have some of those symptoms! :dizzy: When they were asking one of the men all those questions, and I had to think about real easy ones. I think the more pressure you feel to get the right answer right away, the less you can think. But, I DID know what year and month it is. :lol: He told that man to count backwards by 3's from 17, and when he got to 8, he had to try like 3 times to get to 5. Poor guy!
Another man, 56 years old, had a stroke, and is normal in all ways, except he no longer feels any emotions. It's like he's walking dead.
They are saying that exercise is the best way to keep your brain young and working normally. They had white rats in cages, some in a plain cage and the others in cages with a tread wheel. The ones with the exercise wheel were healthier and their brains were much more active, to the point that they started doing little tricks on the wheels. Then they tested their blood for certain chemicals etc. Can you tell I find stuff like this interesting? :o

I made a big kettle of chicken vegetable soup today also. I love soup this time of year. Keeps the tummy warm!

I had all my windows open for about 3 hours this afternoon too, while I was cooking the soup. I turned the furnace off during that time. The house smelled so fresh with the smell of the soup and the fresh air. It was 55 degrees here today.

Puss, I never had my grandson come up to rake because it rained all day yesterday, and today I was still getting stuff done in the house.

My oldest son is going back to school right now. He's 41 and is an electronics technician, designing photo circuit boards. He's taking another couple years of college to get a degree in business. He continues in his job, taking night classes. I just hope he doesn't exhaust himself.
And my youngest son, 34, is a deisel mechanic, and quit his job to go to school to be an assessor. Big money in that. I just hope they like what they do. That's the most important thing.

Do any of you have presbyopia yet? I can't see for sour owl $h**.
I also have these little hairs that grow on my chin, and I don't want to shave them, so I pluck them. Well, I can't see them, even with my glasses on, and it gets so frustrating. So, here's a tip if you need it. I took my mascara brush and brushed on the chin hairs, and VOIL'A! All 4 of them stood out with that dark mascara on them and I plucked those little buggers right out! :lol:

You know, that may be just the ticket for your mother. To live near her sister. Do they get along well? That would be company for both of them.

Sheila, I'm glad the going away party went well. I bet you're getting a bit nervous too.
I guess I'm going to have to buckle down too here. I need maybe to set short, small goals of not pounds lost, but activity increases and things like that. My sister was talking about maybe going to WW with me. We'll see.

Well, I heard the buzzer on my drier so I need to take that load out and put the last one in.

Darnit! Work again tomorrow! :p

Hi Sue, Jacquie, Bluet and Charlotte.

09-29-2003, 08:20 AM
I had a healthy breakfast.
veggie omelet with egg substitute, veggies, 97% FF ham, FF cheese and 1 sl. 100% whole wheat toast with ICBINB spray.

Now I'm off to work. ICK! Taking a sandwich of lite corned beef, 100% whole wheat bread, dijon mustard, 1 sl. FF cheese and baby romaine lettuce.

Gonna have chicken veg. soup for supper.

33 degrees here this morning. Nippy!

Have a good day!

09-29-2003, 06:39 PM
Willow, if you watch any medical programme you'll convince yourself of all the symptoms. When I was a student nurse I was sure I had MS, diabetes, thyroid and even all the male symptoms!! As for the alzheimers.. last year DH thought he was coming up to his 59th birthday so last week DS sent him a card with '60? You must be joking!' on the front. Inside he had written 'sorry, Dad, not that you would know, anyway! One of the tests for dementia is knowing how old you are and you are in trouble, mate.' DD sent a card with 'Dad I've always promised to be there for you when you're old and grey and have lost all your marbles....(turn the page) and here I am!'. She asked if he had finally worked out how old he was now, said not to worry about it as it was time for his bath now, sir. She had written 'because you have funded my beer-swilling student lifestyle for the past 5 years I won't put you into a home. Mum was never going into a home but it was touch and go with you there for a while' - this was all because he forgot how old he was the last birthday! No respect in this house ha ha. Your two sons are very resourceful to re-train, Willow. I think people who employ respect that kind of determination in people, good luck to them. As for hairs on chins...I have one which keeps popping up every couple of weeks which I tweezer, yikes! Sheila, I am glad your DDs party went well, you will miss her. What's this about siestas being decadent? And what's wrong with being decadent at our age? Ha, once my kids are up and earning I plan to put the head in hedonism and bathe in asses milk - if I can find any asses milk sellers in this little town, that is. Your grandaughter sounds a little sweetie and I will probably dream again that DD still has that secret GD tucked away. I was browsing at WW cookbooks in my lunch hour but can't get my head around a points system. How are they gauged and how many can you have in a day? I only had a little lapse today - did really well compared to the feeding frenzy of rubbish the last few weeks - and hope to continue back on track. Hi to everyone else, hope you are all well and can join us when you have the time.

09-30-2003, 07:37 PM
Whoa! We almost went off the first page again.

That's pretty cool that two of your sons have decided to go back to school, Willow. I know my DH, who was building walls at a mobile home factory in his late 20s, is extremely happy he made the decision to go back to college.

OMG, those hairs! I have one that seems to grow a foot overnight. I check it all the time, then, poof, one day I wake up and it's there. I get my eyebrows waxed every three weeks and have the waxing person pluck the darn thing because I can't ever see it. I have reading glasses, but they just aren't good for getting that close with a mirror. I'm not even going to get started on nose hairs! :-)

Puss, your kids sound like a lot of fun. I bet your family get-togethers are a riot. My DH always added a year to his age because he would forget how old he was. I did notice that now he's 52, he's been subtracting a year rather than adding. What does that tell you about his brain?

The brain is definitely an interesting, intricate organ. I'm not all that happy with mine these days. My neuro disorder is caused by some kind of misfiring in the basal ganglia or some such thing. There's too many things that can go wrong. I read that eating blueberries helps with Altzheimer's so I've been eating blueberries almost every day, along with playing Concentration on the computer, and working crossword puzzles (supposedly good for stimulating the brain). I have no idea where I read about the blueberries, but it really stuck with me. Oh, and I read yesterday that walnuts, which I've been eating to lower my cholesterol, is helpful with rheumatoid arthritis. So, Charlotte, you might consider upping your walnut intake to 1.5 oz. per day. I eat .5 ounces per day, but walnuts are a lot of points on WW. I should probably eat more, but it's 6 pts. for an ounce--too many!

So now I have a whole bunch of bulbs to plant, and I don't know where to plant them. We're not done with our planting beds, but I suppose I could put them other places. I want to put some so that my dad can see him from his window. He'll enjoy looking at them in the spring. We made sure one of his windows looked right onto the back garden that he worked so hard on over the years. Of course, then I took out almost all his roses because I couldn't take care of them, but, hey, he can see the other stuff.

I'm hoping I can survive 7 more days with my daughter before she goes into the Navy. I already told her that they have rooms at the YWCA. We get along so much better when she's not living with us! My son is hopefully moving into my daughter's apartment tomorrow--we'll see. My DH said we need to unhook the cable television and I need to quit cooking. We never had cable when they were growing up because it was too expensive. Once they were all out of the house, I decided to treat myself. Little did I know it would make all the kids want to come back and live with us! Yikes!

Hope everyone is enjoying their Tuesday. I had a massage today. I can take or leave the massage (they're rather painful), but I really enjoy talking with the massage therapist.

09-30-2003, 07:38 PM
Where is everyone? I must confess I was good on foods today until a friend at work gave me a box of chocolates for a favour I did. I didn't want to take them, not only because I don't need repaying for something I was glad to help out on , but also I couldn't take the temptation. She wouldn't take them back! When I got home I saw they were too posh to open just for myself but the damage was done...I put them away until DD visits to share them ...but scoffed half a large bar of chocolate that was hiding in the fridge. I will pay for this in the morning on the scales. Where is everyone?

09-30-2003, 07:53 PM
Sheila, you must have posted as I was typing. I haven't heard of blueberries helping to prevent Altzheimers but puzzles etc I have heard is good. Also, cigarette smokers seem to get it less though that could be because we tend to die younger than the average Altzheimer patient I supose. You are so thoughtful planting bulbs at a site where your dad can see them easily in the Spring. I keep seeing some of the ones I planted lying on top of the soil where the squirrels have buried their nuts for the winter. I know what you mean about cable TV. We would never have it when our kids were young but as they got to 16 we had satellite installed. Now, whenever DS comes to stay I get over-ruled and DH and him have fishing or sports on. I only had a massage once years ago in my 20s and promptly fell asleep. Even then I was used to siestas I suppose. Have you decided what to do with your little love's ashes yet? When I was young my friend's father was a stone mason and their garden was littered with little crosses with the names of all their cats. It was really pretty but it never occured to me at the time that they went through an awful lot of cats. Perhaps the dad was just practising his art!

09-30-2003, 11:03 PM
Hi Everyone,

I don't know what is the matter with me. I am so tired all the time lately. All I want to do is sleep. I think may be I am depressed. About what? I am not sure.

Hey Willow, I thought you were working on a program to lose weight to reward yourself with the River Walk next June. Next thing I know you are eating ice cream. I think I am chopped liver, you have to work harder than that if you are going to make your goal of coming to see me next June. :^: Just kidding Willow I am excited to meet you whether you reach your goal or not. :) Of course I am jeolous, I haven't had any covert sugar since May 11, 2003. I haven't had my favorite glass of white wine since February 6, 2003. May be that is what I am so dang depressed about :s: My favorite thing to do in the evening was to sit down and watch TV with a large Hershey Almond Bar and a couple of glasses of white wine. I had to give it all up though, it got to the point where all I wanted to eat was sugar things, not any healthy things. Then I went to the library and found Kathleen DesMaisons book Potatos Not Prozac, started her program and have not looked back, I have lost twenty-two pounds and weigh 138 lbs. now. I have hit a plateau and am pretty grumpy about that :mad: I get on the treadmill every morning, since I have been posting to you gals, but I am not seeing much progress. I log my excersie on www.presidentschallenge.com. You get a bronze star or something like that when you achieve a certain goal.

I was digging up some sedum that was growing in between the bricks on a little patio that I have. Had most of the bricks thrown to the side, when My SIL called me that he was meeting my daughter at the hospital when she had her baby. Well the bricks and sedum are still setting there undone. It is so blasted cold this week in Wisconsin (Jacquie) I think it has something to do with some Canadian air "reaching down" from Canada. I would just love to get some bulbs planted before it freezes, but I'll be lucky if I get the bricks back in place and the sedum transplanted. I still have to get out there and get that poor little pond taken care of before the little waterfall freezes in motion.

The five older grandchildren were here for the weekend and we cleaned up the pumpkin patch. They all worked like busy little beavers collecting the pumpkin, gourds and squash. The kids were fun to watch when they started pulling back the husks on the indian corn. Every ear was different, it was facsinating for DH and me too. Alot of plowing left to do, but most of the crops are off and stored away for the winter. A calf was born when the kids were here. One of the heifers we raise for a neighbor had her calf early, so the grandkids got to see that up close and personal. Always something going on it seems, I guess that is why they love coming here.

Well, I guess I have to head off to bed. Take care everyone, I think about you guys everyday...take care Charlotte, Sheila, Sue, Puss, Willow and Jacquie :grouphug:


My heart is warm with the firends I make Edna St. Vincent Millay

09-30-2003, 11:13 PM
Hi everybody,
I baby sat tonight again. I guess I will be every Tuesday until at least November because my son has classes and my DIL works every Tuesday evening.
I ate badly again today.
I had cheerios cereal with fresh strawberries and skim milk for breakfast, soup and a sandwich for lunch, some saltine crackers with natural peanut butter for a snack and pizza for supper.

My sister is going to start WW on Thursday. I know I've gained everything back that I lost, but, I'll just start again.

Puss, I love your family humor. Your kids sound like great people to be around.

Sheila, you're so good to your Dad. I hope my kids are that good to me if ever the day comes that I can't do everything for myself.

Tonight as I arrived at my sons house I heard someone calling, " HEY! GRANDMA!" It was my 12-year old grandson just coming home from band practice. I walked up to meet him and we walked together back to their house. He's such a cute kid.
He plays the trombone.
So, for a half hour tonight I listened to him playing the school song about 3 feet away from where I was sitting. :dizzy: It was a bit loud, ..... but he's getting pretty good on that thing.
His older sister plays the clarinet and his little brother (7) wants to learn how to play the piano but he doesn't want to take piano lessons!! :lol: They have a piano, and he wants his mother to teach him, but she wants a professional to teach him.

I better get going and get ready for bed.

I printed out calendars for the rest of the time I will be working, up to retirement. Then I crossed out all the weekends and holidays and vacation days. Then I counted up how many days I have to work until retirement. I have to work 575 days yet. Now, that's actual working days. 29 months. I told the people I was working with today, " Now just watch me kick the bucket a week before retirement!" :lol:

Have a good night girls!

Hello to those who haven't posted recently! Thinking of you and hoping all is well.

Bluet, you were posting at the same time I was.
I promise, I'm trying to get some weight off. Maybe going to WW with my sister, (or vice versa) will keep me honest to myself.

That is so cool that you can give your grandkids all those experiences. I'm sure they DO love it at your house.

It sounds like you've been busy lately. Things I should be doing.

How's that grandbaby doing?

P.S. You can become depressed from menopause too. I think that's what my problem has been for the last 8 or 9 years. Caused by menopause and thyroid.

09-30-2003, 11:30 PM
Lamentations of the Father

(by Ian Frazier)

To a child:

Laws of Forbidden Places-

Of the beasts of the field, and of the fishes of the sea, and of all foods that are acceptable in my sight you may eat, but not in the living room. Of the hoofed animals, broiled or ground into burgers, you may eat, but not in the living room. Of the cloven-hoofed animal, plain or with cheese, you may eat, but not in the living room. Of the cereal grains, of the corn and of the wheat and of the oats, and of all the cereals that are of bright color and unknown provenance you may eat, but not in the living room. Of quiescently frozen dessert and of all frozen after-meal treats you may eat, but absolutely not in the living room.

Of the juices and other beverages, yes, even of those in sippy-cups, you may drink, but not in the living room, neither may you carry such therein. Indeed, when you reach the place where the living room carpet begins, of any food or beverage there you may not eat, neither may you drink. But if you are sick, and are lying down and watching something, then may you eat in the living room.

Laws When at Table

And if you are seated in your high chair, or in a chair such as a greater person might use, keep your legs and feet below you as they were. Neither raise up your knees, nor place your feet upon the table, for that is an abomination to me. Yes, even when you have an interesting bandage to show, your feet upon the table are an abomination, and worthy of rebuke.

Drink your milk as it is given you, neither use on it any utensils, nor fork, nor knife, nor spoon, for that is not what they are for; if you will dip your blocks in the milk, and lick it off, you will be sent away.

When you have drunk, let the empty cup then remain upon the table, and do not bite it upon its edge and by your teeth hold it to your face in order to make noises in it sounding like a duck: for you will be sent away.

When you chew your food, keep your mouth closed until you have swallowed, and do not open it to show your brother or your sister what is within; I say to you, do not so, even if your brother or your sister has done the same to you.

Eat your food only; do not eat that which is not food; neither seize the table between your jaws, nor use the raiment of the table to wipe your lips. I say again to you, do not touch it, but leave it as it is.

And though your stick of carrot does indeed resemble a marker, draw not with it upon the table, even in pretend, for we do not do that, that is why. And though the pieces of broccoli are very like small trees, do not stand them upright to make a forest, because we do not do that, that is why.

Sit just as I have told you, and do not lean to one side or the other, nor slide down until you are nearly slid away. Heed me; for if you sit like that, your hair will go into the syrup. And now behold, even as I have said, it has come to pass.

Laws Pertaining to Dessert

For we judge between the plate that is unclean and the plate that is clean, saying first, if the plate is clean, then you shall have dessert.

But of the unclean plate, the laws are these: If you have eaten most of your meat, and two bites of your peas with each bite consisting of not less than three peas each, or in total six peas, eaten where I can see, and you have also eaten enough of your potatoes to fill two forks, both forkfuls eaten where I can see, then you shall have dessert.

But if you eat a lesser number of peas, and yet you eat the potatoes, still you shall not have dessert; and if you eat the peas, yet leave the potatoes uneaten, you shall not have dessert, no, not even a small portion thereof.

And if you try to deceive by moving the potatoes or peas around with a fork, that it may appear you have eaten what you have not, you will fall into iniquity. And I will know, and you shall have no dessert.

On Screaming

Do not scream; for it is as if you scream all the time. If you are given a plate on which two foods you do not wish to touch each other are touching each other, your voice rises up even to the ceiling, while you point to the offense with the finger of your right hand; but I say to you, scream not, only remonstrate gently with the server, that the server may correct the fault.

Likewise if you receive a portion of fish from which every piece of herbal seasoning has not been scraped off, and the herbal seasoning is loathsome to you and steeped in vileness, again I say, refrain from screaming. Though the vileness overwhelm you, and cause you a faint unto death, make not that sound from within your throat, neither cover your face, nor press your fingers to your nose. For even I have made the fish, as it should be; behold, I eat it myself, yet do not die.

Concerning Face and Hands

Cast your countenance upward to the light, and lift your eyes to the hills, that I may more easily wash you off. For the stains are upon you; even to the very back of your head, there is rice thereon.

And in the breast pocket of your garment, and upon the tie of your shoe, rice and other fragments are distributed in a manner wonderful to see.

Only hold yourself still; hold still, I say. Give each finger in its turn for my examination thereof, and also each thumb. Lo, how iniquitous they appear. What I do is as it must be; and you shall not go hence until I have done.

Various Other Laws, Statutes, and Ordinances

Bite not, lest you be cast into quiet time. Neither drink of your own bath water, nor of the bath water of any kind; nor rub your feet on bread, even if it be in the package; nor rub yourself against cars, not against any building; nor eat sand.

Leave the cat alone, for what has the cat done, that you should so afflict it with tape? And hum not the humming in your nose as I read, nor stand between the light and the book. Indeed, you will drive me to madness. Nor forget what I said about the tape.

10-02-2003, 12:38 AM
Ah, Bluet, a glass of white wine. Sounds really good right now. I can skip the Hershey bar, but a glass of wine would be very relaxing. When we went out to dinner the other night, I had a $7.50 glass of Chardonnay--definitely worth every penny.

Sounds like you had a great time with the grandkids. Pretty cool that they got to see a new heifer.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with PD's ashes, Puss. Right now they are in the closet next to my mom's ashes. She would have liked that--she had a soft spot for little white dogs. She always wanted a Westie. I'm thinking I'll just wait until they all go, and take them with us when we move to Oregon after my dad passes away, and bury them at what will hopefully be our last home. Had to laugh at all the little crosses--definitely makes you wonder! I have a friend who lives in the country and has a pet cemetary. She had 16 cats and a bunch of dogs and they've all lived well into their teens.

Willow, I'm glad you're still going to go to the WW meeting even though you know you're probably gained weight. That takes real courage. I usually take a pass on weighing or don't go, which really isn't good. A half hour of listening to the trombone--you're a wonderful grandma!

Speaking of grandkids, my granddaughter had her first day of preschool on Monday. My son wrote me that she did so great on her first day of school, that he was really proud of her. The teacher got emotional because she thought my little sweetheart was doing so well, too. My granddaughter is doing "home schooled" preschool with the teacher and a speech therapist (isn't that a great teacher to student ratio!). After cold and flu season abates, hopefully she'll get to go to the real classes with the other special ed preschoolers, unless one of them has the sniffles. She's so medically fragile that catching a cold can land her in the hospital. It's a bummer because she really loves other kids.

My daughter wanted to run on a track today so we went to one at the nearby high school and found it all locked up. Then we went to another high school, but couldn't find the track. We're going to try again tomorrow because I know where there is an open track, but it's quite a ways away. My DD has to run 1.5 miles in a certain time and needs to check how she's doing on her running. I will just walk it, though--these knees aren't made for jogging!

Hope everyone had a great Wednesday.

10-02-2003, 12:55 AM
Hi all!

Sorry for not posting the past several days things....just been too stressed out with mothers move and trying to control what goes into my mouth. I think I had better just back off until things settle down and I can concentrate better. I can relate to what you are feeling Bluet......I once saw a book at the library " Menopause and The Mind" I think I had better read it....maybe I can figure out what is going on in my head, why I can't take things in stride and not get all stressed out!! Sheila I so think I read something about blueberries and Alzheimers.

Willow I know what you mean about chin hairs....I pluck mine in the car you can see them better in the natural light !!

Well the weather here is so beautiful we have decided to give the camper on last trip. I think my brain and body needs the break.We will be gone 4 or 5 days so I won't be posting until next week.

Hope everyone has a good weekend Charlotte, Sue and all I have missed!


10-02-2003, 06:32 PM
Hey Guys,

Just because it snowed yesterday in good ole Wisconsin, don't run for the caves and stock up on food yet. There's gotta be some Indian Summer coming or at least some nice days ahead so we can enjoy fall.

Puss I just finished reading another bodice ripper. I'll have to head to the library or the book store to stock up on more of my addiction. Haven't had a lot of extra time to watch my two favorite shows, Ground Force and Changing Rooms lately. I have picked up a few shows of Trading Spaces on the American Channel. Trading Spaces has some new designers. The rooms they redone have been absoluetly darn ugly this season. I hope Changing Rooms hasn't changed at all. Except this is Carol's last year as hostess. I am disappointed, I really like Carol. Has your DH returned from his trip yet? Oh well, when he does we probably won't hear from you at least a week. Especially if you model just your new coat again. :o

Shiela, I have been meaning to tell you that I am enjoying your Dad stories too. I think they are really cute in a humerous way. Two of our kids ran Cross Country in high school. How grueling. They practiced all summer in the heat and then ran competion all fall in the cold and freezing rain. I shouldn't complain, at least they have character. Of course DH and I had to follow the team every where they went. Well, it got us out and about. They always competed on Golf Courses, so I got to see every Golf Course in a 100 mile radius. :lol:

Jaquie, hope everything goes well in your Mother's big move. There is a lot to deal with isn't there? I hope you have other family help, it will ease the burden somewhat for you. Let us know when you get back. :)

Willow, how are you doing? That sure was a cute article you sent about children. Man it all applies, doesn't it? Especially to those two Irish Twin grandson cousins of mine. Your grandchildren sound cool too. You are even cooler for listening to your grandson play in your ear for so long. Tonight I get to watch Survivor. I know, I know, it is a stupid show, but I get such a charge out of it and it is really the only show I watch in the evenings. I get such a charge out of some of the dumb things those people do to be one of the last survivors on the island. It is kind of like junior high school all the back stabbing and stuff. Of course the one who wins the million dollars is never the one I pick to win. It is suppose to rain tonight and tomorrow, so when I get home I suppose we will have to cut all that lawn that we cut. We have been cutting every other week the last while it hasn't been growing so fast. I would rather cut grass than shovel snow though. Well I am typing this at work, so I guess I better, get busy and look like I am doing some REAL work.

Take care everyone. How are you doing Charlotte and Sue. Hope you are both o.k. :grouphug:


P.S. I am still at my stupid plateau.......Help!

My heart is warm with the friends I make. Edna St. Vincent Millay

10-02-2003, 08:02 PM
Just a quickie to apologise - been very busy last two days - baking cakes for 'Jeans for Genes' day tomorrow at work and having to email DH in Middle East. Promise to do better tomorrow, best wishes to all. xx

10-02-2003, 11:08 PM
I bit the bullet and went back to WW tonight. My sister joined also and Rita went too. So, it's kind of nice to look forward to having someone else to talk things over with and compare notes with. Although Rita hasn't been all that chatty about it up until now. Maybe things will change now.

I gained 5 of the 6.6 pounds back that I had lost several weeks ago. I haven't had this WW leader before and I really like her. She's very upbeat and gets you all enthused.

I was watching the Senate hearings on c-span on nutrition and weight control and how the food pyramid needs to be changed. It was quite interesting. They had very reputable Doctors and professors and scientists testifying, like Dr. Dean Ornish, Dr Willet, etc. I can't even remember them all, but, it was most interesting.
They all have one thing in common in their recommendations, ... To get more exercise, use less of the high glycemic foods like white bread, pasta, rice etc, and even be careful of how much whole grain carbohydrates we use because they take longer to digest, therefore releasing the sugar in a slower way, but, none the less, they DO turn to sugar eventually. We need the nutrients from them though.
They all say that exercise should be at the bottom, widest bar of the pyramid. And they recommend that recess or phy ed be a part of our kids regular curriculum through their senior year.
Anyway, I found it to be very enlightening.

Didn't go to work today. Just couldn't make myself go in. I was so very tired. Discomfort in my right chest and back again.

Sheila, I like wine too, but I haven't had any in years. It makes me horny. :o And when I did drink it regularly, I couldn't afford the expensive stuff, so I drank Boones Farm. And had just as much fun on it as the expensive stuff. :lol: One time I was with a girl I grew up with but hadn't seen in years, her husband and another guy. They stopped at a party of someone they knew and everyone was passing around a big old bottle of wine, (I have no idea what kind, it was kind of dark in that apartment) remember when we could do that and not have to worry about "catching something"?
Anyway, I started to notice this one guy sitting up on the back of the couch, and he was chewing gum, and it seemed that his jaws would open impossibly wide, and very slowly, kind of like an aligator yawning in slow motion, over and over, and I started to laugh. Steve, my friends husbands buddy, told me to not laugh at the guy, and I held it under control until he got down off the couch and walked across the room, and then his legs went up real high, like he was stepping over a log with each step, and I just found that so fascinating. Sooooo, .... I don't know who was higher, me or him, but somebody had put "something" into that wine, because later we went to a bar, and I had my favorite, a beer, and it tasted like chocolate, so, as I was sitting by the door which was open, I tossed the beer out of the glass out the door to the sidewalk, and just then someone walked up and they got the beer right in the face. :fr:
Then we went to another place and when we parked the car, we were all quiet for a while, then my friend said something to me and I said, "Shshshshsh! I think I can hear gas!" What an experience that was! I never used drugs, and it was something I wouldn't particularly want to experience again, yet, I have to laugh about it now, looking back.
I remember a yellow light at one bar fascinated me because it seemed that the light just filled everything.
Even the next day, I was sitting on the couch and suddenly the door frame jumped out, then back into place. I thought it was a trick of my eyes, and then it did it again.
I've never shared a bottle with anyone since, and I don't leave my drink out of my hand either.
But, it didn't stop me from drinking wine or beer. :lol:
I bet you guys are laughing your a$$es off at me about now. :D Those were the good old days.

So your little sweetheart granddaughter started preschool. They are so precious, aren't they? I have a 5-year old granddaughter who has special needs. She has speech therapy and a couple of other classes. She's in kindergarten now.

Jacquie, I hope things are getting back to normal for you now. Don't worry about keeping up with any of the diet stuff for a few days until you get settled back in. Just know that we hope you're doing well, and there's no pressure from us to lose right now. Just post when you can and we'll look forward to hearing from you when you get the time. I know how it is.
Thanks for the tip on chin hairs! I'll keep a tweezers in my car from now on. Ah, ... uhmmm, ... you don't pluck them while you're driving, do you? :lol:
Hope your trip is a wonderful one!

Bluet, I don't know what to tell you about your plateau, except maybe the Wendy concept would work for you. I have it in it's entirety if you want me to send it to you. It's concieved on the Weight Watchers plan, but, I would think you could put the principal to work on any weight loss plan you're on. You eat high calories one day, low the next and normal the next, etc, etc.

Puss, what's jeans for genes? Something to do with genetics? Or men named Gene wearing no jeans? :lol:
Anyway, I'm betting you're missing the mister about now. How long will he be gone again? 6 weeks? That's a long time in a way, but, just long enough to make the heart grow fonder.

Well, I suppose I should end this and get to bed. Don't know if I'll go in to work tomorrow or not. Suppose to rain tonight I think. If it is yet tomorrow, I suppose I might as well go in to work. Can't ride my bike in the rain anyway.

Have a good night all.

10-03-2003, 05:35 PM
Hi everybody....hope you still remember me!:lol:

I had a treatment yesterday, so I'm too crazy :dizzy: to work on papers. I figured you already know how I am....so it doesn't matter.;) Gee, I didn't know it was going to take so much work! Maybe it'll pay off in the long run. We sure could use a break.

My pc's acted up again, too. Someone went in & corrupted my files! This is all getting too weird!

I went back & read a few of the posts. Very interesting....especially the wine story.....

Well, the more I type, the sicker I get. Guess I'll wait til another day. Take care, & I'll be back. http://www.agifs.hpg.ig.com.br/criancas/menina214.gif

10-03-2003, 08:59 PM
I stayed home today and had a nice relaxing day. I took my cell phone back AGAIN because it keeps hanging up on me, and they gave me a loaner to use while they send mine in to see what's wrong with it.

Wrote out checks for bills and mailed them.

Had a good breakfast again. Had soup for lunch. I made a big pot of fish chowder and had a bowl of that for supper. Had WW snack bar for snack.

I did the 3-mile WATP tape so I got 45 minutes of exercise in.

I'm going to give my sister one of the 2-mile tapes I have to use until she gets used to that one, and then she can move up from there.

Charlotte, I'm so happy to see that you're still with us, but sad to hear that you're not feeling well again. Hopefully it'll pass in a day.

Yeah, I have had some weird experiences. One time this same friend and I had smoked some you-know-what, and we decided to pick up a hitchhiker we had passed, so I stopped and backed up, and it was a mail box.

Gotta run to my sisters house. See ya all later! Have a good night!

10-04-2003, 12:20 AM
Oh, my, Willow, I remember those "good" old days. Frankly, I'm glad they're over! The stories are still pretty darn funny, though. But I don't want my kids knowing the kind of stuff I used to do.

Charlotte, I love the hula hoop girl. I'm sorry that you're not doing so well, and hope the treatments kick in again soon. Did you see my post about walnuts helping RA? Who knows if it works, but if you're not allergic, at least walnuts are full of good heart healthy stuff. My neurologist wrote me a referral to an acupuncturist to help with pain. I would love for it to work so I'm crossing my fingers.

Hope you're having a great time on your trip, Jacquie. You didn't mention where you are going so I hope you'll tell us all about it when you post again. Hopefully you'll see some good leaf color this time of year.

Bluet, being on a plateau really bites. I hope you persevere and make it through the other side. Hey, I finally saw Changing Rooms and Ground Force. I swear those GF people were working outside in a snow storm! I love those courtyard gardens I've seen them do.

My DD and I went to see Under the Tuscan Sun. It was okay--hard to sit through two hours of movie, but it had some good moments. I saw a couple of movie previews that look like fun. One was Calendar Girls, which is about a group of British matrons who decide to raise money by posing nude for a calender--the trailer was wonderful. It has Helen Mirren in it and some other British actors I recognize, but can't name. Supposedly based on a true story--Puss, have you ever heard of this? Also a Jack Nicholson/Diane Keaton flick that looks amusing, too. Not sure when either of them come out. Tonight we're going to watch Bend It Like Beckham on video. I've heard so many good things about that movie.

We also went to Old Navy where I picked up a size smaller pair of pants that I should be able to fit into shortly. My DD made me wear a size L top and sweater to the movie. I didn't think I could fit in them, but I did. I've been reluctant to give up my 2X shirts so I felt rather uncomfortable in something more form fitting. Need to work on my body imaging, I think.

My son is moving out to my DD's old apartment sometime this weekend. So then I'll be down to one boomerang child until Tuesday afternoon when the Navy snatches up my DD and whisks her away to a hotel to await shipping out on Wednesday. Gulp! On the plus side, my DH and I will be alone again, so I'll be earning some indoor activity points again--hee hee! :)

10-04-2003, 05:56 AM
Well the jeans for genes day was a success - it was nationwide charity event where all workers get to wear their jeans if they donate at least a pound towards helping children born with genetic disability. This year it was the turn of my department to make cakes for sale to the office. I made a coffee cake with butter cream icing topped with coffee glace icing. Despite my worries, ( I am never confident cooking for others) mine was the first to sell out in quick time - just shows how people go on looks alone, ha ha. I had to buy a cake from my closest colleagues - three of them! - so diet went to the wall yesterday, ha.
Bluet, you have done so well losing 22lb and you say you weigh 138lb. I would be thrilled with that. What is your end goal? Congrats on your new grandchild! (I feel another dream about secret GC coming on). It must be lovely for the GKs to see farming for real. My parent took my younger brother and me on holidy on a farm in Ireland when we were kids and when my brother saw where his bacon, chicken and eggs actually came from, he was practically vegitarian for many years afterwards. City kids sometimes don't think about the origins of food much, I guess. Mind you, that's all gone now, he could eat a cow at one sitting. I too like Ground Force but I wish Charlie Dimmock would get herself a decent bra! I don't like Changing Rooms or Carol Smilie - I call it trashing rooms, they use such tacky stuff and it's mostly stapled into place including curtains. Look out for Wife Swapping - not as raunchy as it sounds. Two wives change houses and live for 2 weeks as the mother and wife in a stranger's home. Results are sometimes hilarious and really heated especially when a wife who has a husband who helps out suddenly has to live with a husband who expects to be waited on hand and foot. The rules are that week one is done the way the house normally runs but week two the 'new' wife has the say over what gets done and by whom. They are doing one soon with a London wife and a New York wife. Glad you are enjoying your bodice rippers - Mills and Boon are very popular here but there is a really funny book set in modern day about a bored housewife who sets out to write a best selling BR and fantasises about the plumber who calls. Can't think of the title but it's by Sue Limb and there is also a sequel.

Sheila - I can just imagine the emotions you went through when your little sweetie started pre-school. They are so precious and innocent you don't want a drop of rain ever to fall on them, do you? At work yesterday a colleague who is on maternity leave dropped by with the little two year old boy she has recently adopted. He has special needs but has come a long way in a few months. After discovering our office chairs spin round he kept spinning one and with a huge smile on his face saying "I did it" That became the saying of the day in the office! He found the paper bin and we all had him putting paper in it because he clapped himself before we could clap him for being so clever. He was so gorgeous I wanted to take him home. You are going to have more mixed emotions too when DD goes. You must be so proud of her, Sheila, and your son, too. You and DH will be like pigs in straw on your own (I know you have your dear dad) - you can re-enact one of Bluet's bodice rippers and have DH chase you round the newly-painted house! Speaking of which, DH has another 5 weeks to go in the Middle East.
Willow - that is true love, listening to the trombone with rapture on your face!! I remember doing it with my kids over the recorder, violin and cello but my dad could hardly keep a straight face and we couldn't look at each other at times when the kids were just learning and they were awful! Praised them to death of course. I loved the Lamentations of the Father, so true. As for your wine story....well, what a wild child you were! Funny though. Don't worry about the 5lb re-gain, we've all been there and you will lose it again. I think all that rubbish with your employers probably had something to do with it. Hope your chest is better now.
Jacqui I think the stress you are under right now is not helping your diet. It comes in phases and sometimes the wrong food is right for certain emotional times. I hope you had a good trip. I love those RVs you have in the States. Occasionally we see one over here and I said to my brother I would love one until he told me the price here! Also, we don't have the roads you have.
Angel it's good to hear from you even though it must have been an effort for you to post. Those insurance forms are a nightmare to fill, I sometimes think deliberately so to deter all but the most determind. Hope the treatment kicks in good.
I am hoping today will be the first one back on track - I have been saying this for a few weeks now but I plan to have a cook in today and tomorrow for the meals next week. Hope you all have a good weekend.

10-04-2003, 06:04 AM
I always do this, post on the wrong page missing the new posts! Willow - I really laughed about the weed and the post box - classic!!
Sheila - Calendar Girls was certainly true and caused much interest a couple of years ago when the real ladies launched it. A group of men did the same thing photographed on a racetrack but it wasn't as popular, ha ha. I know what you mean about body image - the other day I bought a sweater and was undecided between two sizes and had to ask the assistant. SHe said the larger one was far too big but it felt more 'comfy' She was right though, the other one is the right size. You must be proud of yourself getting down a size in your new outfit. Well done, lady, you'll be swapping clothes with that fit daughter of yours in no time!

10-04-2003, 09:17 AM
Hello all........it's early......feeling a little more like myself. This treatment was a rough one. The nurse had to stick me 4 times & still didn't get it in.....just had no veins. She gets so anxious when it's my day to come.:^: Anyway, she put a hotpack on my hand for 30 minutes, & tried again. Got it this time...but just barely....had to be very still the whole treatment, so it wouldn't come out. I was sitting there an hour before treatment even started. She said she didn't want to do it, but had to rush the Remicade in within 1 hour....hoping the needle wouldn't come out. It's suppose to take 2 hours. She watched me like a hawk! This can be a dangerous thing to do. Also, filled me full of Benadryl, Zertec, etc., hoping for no bad reactions. Finally got home....suppose to go to bed. My sister called twice to check on me....my daughter called 2 or 3 times. Two men I didn't know came to give estimate on sheetrock & heating-cooling system. (DH thought he would get there before they arrived.) I never did get to go to bed...my eyes were crossing, I was so sleepy!
Yesterday, I was really sick. Getting better, though, now. It DID last the whole 6 weeks...at least we've got that worked out. I know I should give in, & have a port put in....but I don't want it. My poor nurse may have a nervous breakdown though.:lol: She drinks diet Pepsi....the day I'm coming for a treatment...she drinks the REGULAR PEPSI!:p

Fatpuss...I'm glad your charity event was a success. It sounds like a lot of fun, plus, doing something very worthwhile. I know what you mean about cooking for others. You're probably a good cook, but I'm not. So, I don't like to show that I'm not a good cook!
The papers I worked on wasn't insurance. No ins is involved this time. The Maytag Co is wanting to settle. It was a new stove that started the fire. We'd had trouble with the computer part of it. Had repairman out several times. There was also a history of this happening.....found lots on the pc. Lawyer told us to get us a list of all expenses we've been out, & what it will take to build our house back....lots of things he wants. Also, to add the total of things that were stolen. That's why it was so important I put my whole attention on it. How much the settlement will be, depends a lot on what I can show them. It would be nice to get enough to hire contractors to finish. DH is very tired. Of course, no amount of money can replace the sentimental things that are gone....but, can't bring them back.

Sheila....no, I didn't read about the walnuts. I'll go back & find it. I love walnuts....& it's worth trying...thanks. I sure hope the acupuncture works for you. Sounds like you're getting the house back. Some plus & some minus......I've been there. There will be days you'll have mixed feelings, I'm sure. Don't worry...when you're lonely, I'm sure your son will be glad to come eat mom's home cooking!;)

Willow...Maybe your little cheerleader shows how you were "back when".:lol: Sounds like you was a "wild child"!:D I wonder if your kids ever used that info on you, when they were teens?! Mine always LOVED to do that!

Reading of Fatpuss & brother's experience at the farm reminded me. When I was young, my dad loved vegetable gardens. We moved to Detroit, MI....& he missed his garden. So, he just planted one in the back yard! Yes, black dirt & all. One of the best gardens he'd ever had! We had people from all around coming to see our garden! Some wanted their pictures taken "in the garden".:lol:

Bluet....Hi...hope all is well with you....guess that grandbaby is spoiled by now! Wonder who would do that?!

Maybe I've made up for a little lost time today...take care.http://home.att.net/~scorh2/Animation2w.gif

10-05-2003, 01:51 AM
Oh, Charlotte, I'm so sorry the treatments were rough. I'm glad they last the full 6 weeks now, though. So why don't you want the port? Just the idea of it? I bet you could get that nurse to do anything if you just let her put the port in! :) I see her cleaning your newly built house every week for a month. . .

Very true about my son, but it's more washing machine than home cooking. He's at his new place tonight, but is coming back tomorrow to finish his laundry.

Wife Swapping, Puss? You know, I think I saw something about that a while ago. Now that should be pretty interesting. I've only seen parts of Changing Rooms, but I've watched quite a few Trading Spaces (the U.S. version of Changing Rooms) and I know exactly which designers I would never let into my house. One of them stapled paper flowers all over a bathroom wall. I have no idea what happened when the people actually took a shower and steamed up the place. And one homeowner screamed, attacked her friend, and rolled around on the floor because she was so unhappy with the outcome. Actually, that made for some pretty good TV drama!

I just got finished watching Real Women Have Curves, which is a great movie. It was on HBO so it should be out on vidoe or DVD if you haven't seen it.

Finally got all the daffodil, crocus and tulip bulbs planted in the new beds and in the rockery. I was able to finish before the football game started, but I needn't have worried because the Univ. of Washington lost big time to UCLA. It was humiliating. We also went to the Farmer's Market and picked up some great tomatoes, lettuce picked at 2:30 that morning (according to the vendor) and some other veggies. I just love Farmer's Markets since I didn't plant a garden this year. We got a zebra tomato, which is kind of green and striped--supposedly has an interesting taste. We'll see.

My dad has taken to eating raw yellow onions. I went into his room and noticed the smell, asked him about it, and he said he thought raw onions were good for you. Okay. . .but they really stink! He doesn't have a sense of smell anymore so he couldn't tell how pungent that odor was. I had to open both doors into the mudroom (the room between his part of the house and ours) to get the smell out. His sense of taste must be off, too, because how can anyone munch on raw onions? I cringe thinking about it.

I've been chilly all day. It was foggy the whole day, which must seep into my bones or something. It really wasn't that cold out, about 57 degrees, but I just feel cold. Maybe this is a drawback to losing almost 60 lbs. I can live with it, though! :)

Has anyone tried the diet soda cake? I did today--very good, especially with fat-free Cool Whip. I shouldn't make it unless I have enough people to finish the cake. I still have problems with some foods, and I can already tell that's one of them. But it would be good to take to parties. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, you just take a regular cake mix, add a 12 oz. can of diet soda instead of the oil and eggs, and bake like normal. Makes a very moist cake. I tried cherry Coke and chocolate cake. Hhmm, maybe that's why I'm dancing around the house at 9:30 pm? I forgot about the caffeine part. Uh-oh.

Hope everyong is having a good weekend!

10-05-2003, 02:17 AM
I watched more TV today than I've watched in a long time. I've been watching the history of Blues on the Public Television Channel, and now tonight the show hosted by Clint Eastwood on Blues. I absolutely love it.

I also did laundry today. Didn't do any specific exercises though.

I had Atkins pancakes for breakfast with sugar-free, fat-free maple syrup. Well, ... one of them gave me the farts! :o I suspect the syrup. I'm glad I didn't have to be anyplace where I'd have to be around a lot of people. Although I wouldn't have minded getting my bosses locked in a room with me! :lol:

The federal office I contacted must have gotten through to them because the other day, (Wednesday) they sent a letter out to me at my work station saying my FMLA had been approved. I tried not to smile when I looked at them. :D

Geez, Charlotte, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a port put in so you wouldn't have to go through the discomfort all the time. I'm glad you're feeling better though.

Your luck is just going from bad to worse, isn't it? Lordy! Whoever stole all your stuff from your storage unit sure was brave! That would have had to take quite a while and a good sized vehicle.
Well, at least it happened before you settled with Maytag instead of after. So, do you think that someone like an investigater broke into your computer and deleted proof you had of contacts you had with Maytag about problems with the stove prior to the fire? Man! You just never know about people in this day and age.

No, my kids didn't know about my pecadillo's mostly. But, my Dad did tell them a few things. Nothing like that though, because he didn't know himself. Yup! I was a wild child. But I've got some good $h** to sit and laugh to myself about in my old age, and everyone will think I'm just senile! :lol:

Puss, that cake you made for that charity sounds sinfully delicious! That's such a nice charity too. We should do something like that here. Although we do have a lot of causes. United Way, UNICEF etc.

When you talked of Sheila and her hubby being like 2 pigs in straw, I had this visual of him chasing her through the house and her Dad watching TV, and saying something like, " There goes "that guy" again!" He sure sounds like a hoot, doesn't he?

If you think I'm bad with what I did, you would have loved being friends with Forrest and Freddie. Freddie was real good looking and forrest looked like Alfred E. Newman on Mad magazine cover. And they were soooo much fun.
One time Linda (the same friend of mine) and I were going to a party that was waaayyyy out in the boonies, and Forrest and Freddie were going too. Well, we girls were totally sober and straight and were on that old country road on our way to the party, and we came upon Forrest and Freddie, in Forrests car, stopped in the middle of the road. We thought they must have car trouble, so we got out to walk up to their car, and just then they started driving again. So, we got in my car and followed them, and they went just a little ways and stopped again. Once again, we got out and they took off again. We thought they were being smart asses by then. And, of course, they stopped again! We got out really quick and ran up to their car and said "what are you guys doing? How come you keep stopping and going?" They said "The road keeps ending. Then we wait till it comes back and drive till it ends again." They were tripping on acid. Linda drove Forrests car and I followed in mine.

Congratulations to you and Sheila on going down in clothes sizes. Must feel wonderful!

Sheila, I pray that you have success with the acupuncture. I'll be thinking of you on Tuesday. I know that's going to be difficult for your family.

I got this recipe today, and she says it tastes very creamy and delicious.

1 pkg. Betty Crocker Super Moist Triple Fudge cake mix
1 (15-oz.) can pumpkin
1/2 c. water
2 egg whites

Mix together for 1 minute.
Bake according to pkg. directions
Make in a 9X13 pan and cut into slices.
2 WW points per serving.

I better get to bed. See ya all tomorrow. Have a good night!

10-05-2003, 06:44 PM
I didn't have any laundry to do today because I did it yesterday, so I had a healthy leisurely breakfast, took a shower and went for a 90-minute bike ride.
I didn't ride fast, just moderate speed. Lots of up and down hills though.
I thought it had been cool enough this past week to make the yellow jackets too sluggish to fly, but I guess the sunshine still brings them out because one dive-bombed me while I was riding my bike. I was swinging at it because it kept coming at my head, and I was all over the street on that bike. I'm kind of wobbly on that thing anyway, and then a bee has to be nasty.

I'm trying to find a small metal box that I can put a padlock on to lock my keys in and keep outside my house someplace, and I spent an hour in a hardware store this afternoon going up one aisle and down the next. Nothing! I don't want to spend $35.00 on a little dinky one from the locksmith either. Especially since it only holds MAYBE 2 keys.

I'll have to check out a couple more stores.

I had a healthy lunch too, extra lean ground beef with stirfry veggies in it, and some oyster sauce drizzled on it and 2 small slices of whole wheat toast with natural peanut butter.
Then I went grocery shopping, and was hungry for a dairy queen before I even had lunch, but I kept putting it off, so 2 1/2 hours had gone by and when I got done grocery shopping, I went and got a medium reeses blizzard. Now I feel better. But, I don't know how many points they are. I estimated 10 points. If anybody knows for sure, let me know.

Well, better get going. I haven't even read the paper yet today.

10-05-2003, 07:38 PM
Oh, No!! I didn't know that if you flicked to a previous page when you had a message pending ready to send then it wiped the message off. I flicked back to page 7 for something before sending and the whole thing wiped, arggghh, it was finished too! Here goes again but hope you don't mind it in note form, girls.
Angel - I am so glad the Remicade is lasting the full 6 weeks now and your nurse reminds me of myself, I couldn't bear to see suffering so had to give it up after 13 months. After all the hassle you have gone through lately with the house, the legal wrangling and the theft, the work you will do actually getting the house livable and ship shape will seem a breeze knowing you are actually going back in. I loved the image of your dad's city garden - some people have a gift for bringing nature and beauty to urban areas.
Sheila - when do you start your accupuncture? I hope it works for you. I tried it years ago for smoking and he must have missed the spot on my ear because I smoked more with the little pin in my lobe. I don't know about zebra tomatoes....I have grown some ugly looking ones this year so I wouldn't be wanting anything other than lovely red ones, ha ha. "Real Women Have Curves" - I haven't seen the film but read a book about a high-living couple and he was a fitness freak always on the scales and always putting her down for being overweight and he goes off with another woman. Is that the same one? I loved the story of the punch-up over Trading Rooms. I've seen a few tears on the ones here when they have made a total mess of a decent room. What is your dad like, eating those onions? Are they the large ones with golden brown skins? Couldn't do it myself though I like them sliced raw with cheese in a sandwhich. I wouldn't mind feeling chilly after losing nearly 60lb!! You can be so proud of yourself for that. That cherry coke and chocolate cake sounds something to die for. I have never heard of it but I would love to try it.
Willow - I couldn't move for laughing at the road stopping story of your friends driving on acid!! Too funny for words but I must tell my kids that one. I am glad the Federal Office sorted your company out and that you had the last laugh. I raked 6 big bags of oak leaves from the front garden today and this is just the first fall, there's tons more to come, unfortunately. I have been good with foods this weekend - come to the conclusion the only way to be good for me is to remove temptation and not have any goodies in the house. Regards to Bluet and Jacqui and Sue, I hope all is well with you, it's been a while since you posted.

10-05-2003, 11:59 PM
That's always a bummer, Puss, when you type a witty essay on the message board and it's wiped out like that! When that happens, I can never remember what I've said--probably something incredibly insightful, I'm sure.

Yes, the onions with the brown skin. I can't imagine even eating a raw onion on a cheese sandwich. Maybe if it was a Walla Walla sweet or something, but those generic yellow onions with the brown papery skin--no way.

Real Women Have Curves is about a Latino family in Los Angeles with an 18 year old daughter and a 29 year old daughter, and a really bossy mother who calls the teenager "Butterball" and comments on her fat all the time. Luckily, the kid has it together and likes her body. It's a pretty great movie. They speak Spanish in it sometimes and there are subtitles when they don't speak English. We found it amusing because we were watching Bend It Like Beckham (another great movie) and we really needed subtitles! :)

Willow, what a relaxing day. It sounds wonderful. And healthy eating, too. I've had rather a bad couple of days of eating. That dang diet soda cake got me started on sweets. I just can't have them in the house. I'd like to say I threw the rest of the cake out, but I ate it instead. Oh, well. Tomorrow is another day. Congrats on getting your FMLA approved. That was quite the hassle, but you prevailed. Must be a good feeling.

My daughter did her 1.5 miles in under 16 minutes--now she just has to increase her push-ups by three or four. Cross your fingers that she makes it--she really wants that extra $200.

Didn't do much around here today. We walked the dogs, then when my daughter was running the track, I walked the track so got quite a bit of exercise in (although not enough to undo the damage the cake did, I'm sure!). Then just did some laundry, and other household chores. My DH did the grocery shopping. One of the checkers was amazed that he does the grocery shopping, and asked if he does laundry, too. What's with that? Are men his age really supposed to be that helpless? When I worked full-time we shared everything equally, right down to scrubbing toilets. Now that I don't work, I do most of the housework, but grocery shopping is literally a pain for me so he does it, particularly when my neck is painful. Also if I cook (which I usually do), he does the dishes.

It's supposed to start raining tomorrow. This weekend was pretty grey, but dry. At least the rain will water my newly planted flower bulbs!

10-06-2003, 06:34 PM
Sheila - I'm with your dad when it comes to those onions! My dad and I often used to have red cheddar and raw onion sandwiches. I like them in other stuff too but your dad is definately the onion king for eating them on their own - that I couldn't do. That film sounds interesting, I will look out for it on SKY satellite. Did your daughter manage to get her push up target? She sounds as fit as a flea and definately not one you want to go running round a track with , ha ha. I am not surprised at the supermarket assistant's remark about your DH shopping. My DH never does the shopping alone - I asked him to get a jar of coffee the other week and, bearing in mind he is quite particular over which instant coffee we get, came back with a jar. It wasn't till I opened it that I realised the colour of the jar wrapper was different - it was de-caffinated and was foul! I rest my case, one simple little job like that. As for cooking, ha ha ha, the kids used to know if he made toast because it was different. In his defence, he was an only child (the Golden child) raised by doting mother and grandmother whilst his father was at sea most of his working life. Although I suppose I spoiled my son I made sure he could cook, wash, iron and shop before he left home but he usually finds some sweet natured girl to do things like button sewing and occasional ironing if his girlfriend is not around. Not many young girls like that now - certainly his sister wouldn't do it for her young man and I don't say I blame them either. I was on a course all day at work - all about standards of behaviour. Seems everything is taboo these days and unfortunately people who work for the government are often lacking in a sense of humour. People said what they wished would change in the office and it ranged from people laughing/talking too loud (god help us) to putting up posters for Christian gatherings. I honestly couldn't come up with anything tangible that cheesed me off but I did say I was fed up with the current trend of everything being offensive to someone, somewhere. Total silence...ooops! I am just sick of mealy mouthed types who don't live life, they watch it go by like the culture police or something.
All my leaf collecting was in vain, it was so windy last night that there's another covering everywhere. I was mostly good today but had a jam donut at the course - well, there were plates of them and everyone else did.....no willpower with jammy (jelly?) donuts. I remember when I lived abroad and went shopping with an American friend and she was talking about peanut butter and jelly and I asked her how she balanced the jelly on the bread. Now of course I know that our jam is your jelly and our jelly is your jello. No wonder she thought it so funny but not half as funny as I did imagining people putting jello on peanut butter bread.
Hope everyone had a good Monday.

10-06-2003, 10:35 PM
A good day, ...
Had a veggie omelet with FF cheese and ham for breakfast and a mesquite turkey breast sandwich with romaine for lunch. Some grapes for 9 AM break and some fish chowder for supper.

I was so hungry when I got home from work I ate my supper then.

I went for a bike ride again and when I first got on the bike, I almost didn't go. My hinder bones are soooo sore from yesterday, but, I told myself, " Suck it up, Baby, suck it up and get it over with!" So I did and I'm still sore but I got a 50 minute ride in anyway.
I rode from my house to the lake, then around the lake which is 5.5 miles, and it's 2.4 miles from my house to the lake, so I had a nice ride in 50 minutes.

When I got back I put on a pot of chili, made from boneless, skinless chicken thighs, and did up my dishes. So, while the chili is simmering, I'll sit a spell here before I get ready for bed.
Geez! I haven't even read todays paper yet!

I have to baby sit tomorrow evening, so I'll take some chili along for their supper so my DIL won't have to worry about getting supper for them before she goes to work.

Sheila, I've done the same thing you have done with the soda cake, only I've done it with WW bars of all things! I'm not buying any more of them. I don't need them. If I want something for a snack, I'll just have to rely on fruit. Or cereal. My husband used to eat raw onions and mustard on saltine crackers or bread. One time I came home and he had my son Tony, who was about 2 years old at the time, sitting there eating raw onions with him. I couldn't believe it!! The kid LIKED it! Puss, what is red cheddar? Is it the sharp cheddar? I love that.
I got a good laugh on your thinking that jelly was jello on peanut butter and bread. Ick!

Thread is getting quiet again. Hope you all have a good week. See ya tomorrow.

10-06-2003, 11:18 PM
Oh, Puss, I would love to work with you! I can't believe that nobody snickered or smiled or anything when you commented. I can imagine how you'd wonder about people eating peanut butter on top of jello--that made me laugh. And, hey, we put bonnets on our heads and boots on our feet. American are just plain weird!

When I lived where there were a lot of leaves, we'd just wait until they all dropped off, rented a leaf vacuum and sucked those suckers all up and composted them. Didn't cost that much in time or money. Now, I'm not sure how our neighbors felt about the leaves because if a windstorm came up, the leaves would all blow over to someone else's house.

A bike ride around the lake sounds wonderful, Willow. As does your pot of chili. It's raining here, and a little cold so chili would suit me just fine. I can't imagine any self-respecting 2 year old liking raw onions on crackers. How does he feel about them now? Bet he can't believe he ever ate that!

Well, tonight's my DD's last night with us. She is worried that she won't meet the weight requirement again so she drank a combo of epsom salts and gatorade to flush out her system. If only she had just eaten sensibly since her last weigh-in. She's sleeping in the bedroom closest to the bathroom tonight for easier access, if you know what I mean.

Hope everyone is doing okay. Kind of a glum Monday around here for various reasons. I'm drinking not one, but two glasses of wine tonight. Normally I don't like to drink my calories, but tonight I need some liquid stress reliever.

10-07-2003, 08:18 AM
I get teary-eyed thinking of how you're probably feeling today, Sheila.
I remember how I felt the day my son left for the Army. His brother, his girlfriend and I had driven him to Minneapolis to the induction center, then followed them to the airport to see him off.
I cried from the time he started walking onto the plane, where he turned and waved to us, SOBBING HERE!! until I got back home, which is a 3-hour drive. His brother climbed into the hatchback of my car and his girlfriend cried herself to sleep in the back seat, so there I was, driving and crying by myself!

Isn't it funny how these kids are so excited about something that makes us parents sad?

I wish her all the best, and here's a hug for all the rest of the family.

10-07-2003, 08:19 AM
Experience has taught me that we have to take care of ourselves
from the outside in as well as from the inside out. In other words, we
need to take care of our internal health as well as our physical
appearance, and our mental and spiritual well-being. You may think I'm
stating the obvious, but I think the reason so many programs fail is that
they focus on one body part at a time instead of treating the whole

Julian Whitaker
(American Doctor)

10-07-2003, 02:37 PM
I am posting early tonight as a male family friend is coming over for dinner – it will keep the neighbours guessing though DH knows about it and doesn’t care 1. Because he is so vain he feels this guy is no threat and 2. He has always been sure of me. I told him one day I might shock him ha ha. Willow, your foods sound delicious but what is romaine? Red cheddar is similar to red Leicester, an orange-coloured strong cheese. I had it with brown sauce (brown ketchup?) on my sandwiches at work today and got accused of being “a proper Northerner” ha ha. I liked the motto by Robert Updegraff – my dad always said we never count our blessings enough. Your bike ride around the lake sounds idyllic and you make me feel guilty that mine has been unused in the garage for 7 long years. Sheila, did your DD make her weight? Poor lamb having to sleep near the look! I know how you will be feeling when she goes; I had to wear sunglasses in the rain when we dropped DD at University my face was so wrecked. TWO glasses of wine?? I would be on my back, I don’t like the taste really though son says a sniff of the cork gets me dizzy and legless. I drink about twice a year and then DH has to restrain me from dancing on tables. Must tell you about a practical joke we played on a young man in the office today who is always playing tricks on others. . Seems he had bragged about buying an Armani suit a few months ago but I wasn’t there when he was telling people. So, very casually I said, “does anyone know a shop round here called +++++?” and straight away he said yes. I said, “The fraud section raided it this morning for selling counterfeit goods”. He looked panic stricken and asked what kind of goods and I said ‘seems all the big name suits are copies’. He was crestfallen and then said he had bought an Armani suit there and I said “really? Are you joking?” Later on I asked the rest of the group how long we should keep it up and my boss was all for leaving him hanging until tomorrow but I had visions of him throwing the suit in the bin when he got home so I confessed it was a joke. He laughed louder than us all, said it was so convincing and he was totally taken in.
Regards to absent friends.

10-08-2003, 03:38 PM

10-08-2003, 07:52 PM
Oo la la, Puss! So did you catch your neighbors peeking into your windows? And who says your coworkers don't have a sense of humor? I loved that joke you played on that guy, and he sounds like a great sport. Good thing you told him when you did--I know I would have felt incredibly guilty if he had dumped a perfectly good Armani suit in the rubbish or even quit wearing it.

My daughter had her swearing-in ceremony today with one other Navy guy and an Army girl. We took photos. My Dad went with us, and I felt so bad for him. We had to walk through three different buildings to get the the recruit center, and after the ceremony, we had to walk back again because they wouldn't let us open a nearby exit door. I asked if they had a wheelchair and they said no. They didn't even provide a chair for him during the ceremony. Granted, it didn't take very long, but he wasn't in good shape by then. He was glad he came, though, and so were we.

Anyway, my DD called from the airport where she had to wait, and was crying and saying, "What did I get myself into?" She had too much time to sit around and think, and get nervous. She made her weight with 1 lb. to spare, after several days of fasting and doing unspeakable things to make the weight come off faster. When we see her again in a couple of months (hopefully), I'm betting she'll have lost at least 10 more--they keep 'em pretty active at boot camp!

I had my first acupuncture treatment today. It was interesting, and I think it did help. I find alternative medicine interesting, but my skeptical mind always wonders about this "whoo whoo" stuff! She had these Tibetan bowls to help calm me, but I noticed that my neck spasmed the minute she started ringing them. So no more Tibetan bowls for me. One place she put a needle in was incredibly responsive and I could feel it up my entire arm. It got really uncomfortable, and I had to have her take it out, but that was the one that seemed to help the most. After the treatment, I went home and took a nap--I felt very weak and tired, which I guess isn't unusual. I made an appointment for next week.

Hey, Charlotte, I'm sorry about your monitor. Glad you're feeling well enough to be working at the station and I hope you're enjoying yourself.

My great news for the day--my wedding ring has been found! My DH was searching through his jacket pocket and felt something solid. He pulled it out of the recesses of his pocket and, voila, there was my ring. I have no idea how it got into his jacket pocket. Maybe he was wearing it at the fair and I put my hand in his pocket?? I have no idea, and neither does he. It's safely tucked away in my drawer until I get around to putting some tape on it. I don't want to resize until I've finished losing weight. Given the serious overeating I've engaged in for the past several days, that day is going to be a long time from now. Oh, well, tomorrow is another day. Oh, yeah, it's my son's birthday, and we're going out for dinner.

I went to the dentist yesterday and found out I need a root canal on the tooth that got a crown five months ago. This will be the second time I've had a root canal, and the other time involved a tooth that had just gotten a crown. The dentist explained why that happens, but that doesn't make it any easier--if I ever get a crown again I might as well just get the root canal done at the same time and spare myself the months of pain.

I hate having dental work done. Actually, this will be the third root canal because I had to have the other tooth done twice. After the first root canal, I got an abscess and I had to go get it cleaned out and "re-rooted." The endodontist looked at me like I was an idiot because I demanded novacaine. Intellectually I knew the tooth was dead, but I didn't care because, emotionally, I wanted to make sure there wasn't even the slightest chance I might feel something.

So where is everyone, and what are you all up to?

10-09-2003, 01:41 PM
I am reading a weight-loss book called "Flip The Switch" by Jim Karas. He states that lack of sleep reduces the production of leptin. Leptin is a hormone that signals the body to sop eating. Research has shown that overweight people have low leptin levels and lean people have high leptin levels. Therefore there is a correlation between leptin and body weight.
I know that on days when I'm tired I sometimes try to boost my energy level by eating. I now realize this is a no-no.
Good luck.

10-09-2003, 06:42 PM
Welcome Swimmer40 and thanks for the tip about leptin. This is new to me but makes sense, I read until 0130 most nights so only average 5.5 - 6 hours sleep a night. I will try to check those days when I have more sleep against normal ones to see if appetite changes.
Angel - sorry to hear about your monitor - you must be wondering what next??? Hope you are ok.
Sheila :dance: you found your wedding ring! That must be the ultimate in serandipity! So pleased for you. You must have been very emotional at your DDs swearing in ceremony and your dad did so well coping with the conditions, bless him, he must be so proud too. You make me laugh with your expressions ie boomerang son and now 'whoo whoo' remedies! I had to smile visualising you when the Tibetan bowls went off. I hope the acupunture works for you, though. So, you were envious of my two absessess and my root canal so you had to go one better, eh? ha, ha. Years ago dentists I had never gave injections for root canals but I have since learned from new brilliant dentist that the less confident ones prefer not to as they can tell by the patient's pain if they have reached the right spot. My dentist always deadens the tooth because he says the surrounding tissues are still very much alive and sights the exact spot by viewing the xray.
Well, my good news is I have lost the 3lb I gained the last couple of weeks pigging out on everything and anything. I am now 134.5lbs which is the lowest I have been for years. Unfortunately, I have decided to work from home tomorrow and I know I will probably put a pound back on because even if I force myself to eat the same as I do in work, I will be sitting down and not walking round the office or walking around the shops in my lunch hour and using up calories.
I told DH I had a nice evening with male friend eating lasagne and watching TV and chatting and he emailed to say he was really jealous of my friend.....why, you ask? "eating your lasagne and watching tv back home" was the explanation. GRRRRR!
Regards to all absent friends, Willow, I hope you are ok.

10-09-2003, 06:48 PM
Oops! Good job I read my post for errors - my weight should read 144.5lbs Not 134.5, I wish!

10-10-2003, 08:22 AM
Hi everybody! Hope you're all doing good today.
I've had one of those weeks where I've been busy yet nothing got done, if you know what I mean.
I had WW meeting last night, and I sooooo did not want to go because I knew I had gained again, .... for the second week in a row. All I've done all week is run here and there and get company(unexpected, at that) and grab what I could when I could. Plus, I did manage to make chili with chicken instead of ground beef, and I really held on to the fluids for a day or so, but that's because I wasn't paying attention to business and wasn't drinking my water. Anyway, I gained again. I bet the leader is wondering, "why are you bothering to show up if you're not going to try?"

I had tea and crumpets for breakfast. I thought that sounded like a proper English afternoon snack. :D
Anyway, I don't know if any of you can get these where you live, but the crumpets (where I live) are in the dairy case where the english muffins, bagels, butter, margarine etc are. They are fat free and they are only 1 WW point each. The brand name is FARM COUNTRY. It's a clear pkg with green lettering and a picture of a cow at the top.
With these I had LAUGHING COW cheese. It's a spreadable cheese, 8 little wedges to a round box, and several different flavors, but there is only one flavor to each box. I had ORIGINAL CREAMY SWISS, and they are also only 1 WW point per wedge. I used one wedge between the two crumpets. A yummy 3-point breakfast.

Romaine is a dark nutritious lettuce. I love the baby romaine leaves.
Puss, I thought your joke on the co-worker was hilarious!
Your dinner with a male guest/family friend shows how secure your hubby is. Good for you guys!
Congratulations on your great loss!! :bravo: Well done my friend!

Sheila, I'm so happy for you that you found your wedding ring.
However, I don't envy you that dental work you have coming up. Just the mention of anything other than a cleaning, makes me break out in a sweat.

Have you heard any more from your daughter? Just wondering how she's doing. Good thing that your Dad could go along to see her off.

Charlotte, I don't think your luck could be any worse. Take care.

Hello Swimmer, and welcome. Tell us a little more about yourself. I see you're from Chicago. I'm from MN. Never heard of Leptin before, but I looked it up, and all I got was prices for a supplement.

Well, folks, it's off to work for me. TGIF!
Everybody have a great day!

10-10-2003, 09:35 AM
Hi everybody....well, all I know...this house is jinxed!
We moved the pc to the other side of the room to put in new windows...plugged it back up, & monitor came on! DH was happy...think I was so bored, it was driving him crazy!:dizzy: I'm having trouble with my images this morning, though...so if there's squares, instead....I'm working on'em.;)

Sheila...glad you found your ring! I have learned the hard way how precious our things can be to us. It's sure going to seem strange when/if the house is finished. Be a different house...& different furnishings, etc. So, you see, I am VERY happy you got your ring back!! Your daughter is in my thoughts & prayers. She'll be fine, I'm sure, after she's settled.

Fatpuss...congratulations on the weightloss! You're doing great!

Willow...don't worry about the weight gain...I'm sure it wasn't much. You had a lot going on....it'll come back off. You're doing great!

Hello, Swimmer...Welcome. I usually put large welcome graphics on, but my pc is driving me buggy :dizzy: these days. Well....I gotta try.....here goes.... http://www.chubclub.org/forum/Imageuploads/Welcome-Fish-bubbles22398070523876s.gif

10-10-2003, 02:14 PM
Angel - I LOVED your fish!! Could you get any more clever?? Today on breakfast TV they were promoting the new animated
Disney film Looking for Nimo (?) and your fish is just like it. When you move into your new house yes, it will be a different house with different furnishings but also a different (and hopefully) new start and a line drawn under all the hassle and misfortunes you have had. Just you be careful, you know the old saying, "new house, new baby" we don't want you coming on here saying you are pregnant again!
Willow - glad you were ok during your absence. I am sure the WW lady isn't wondering why you bother. After all, even if she is really nice, it's money in her pocket each time and as a leader she probably knows more than us how weight changes with circumstances for those of us who are never constant. Well, well, well, Willow Bucket eating tea and crumpets - a right little Anglophile in the making! You will be asking us on this site "hello, how do you do?" next! (only joking) I have never heard of those crumpets only the ones I pop under the grill and smear 1/4lb of butter on each one. I did used to see the Laughing Cow brand when we lived abroad - my young kids used to think it was a funny name. Don't worry about the weight gain, I find it's times when you are running round like a headless chicken is when we snack or comfort eat or just grab what's convenient which is invariably high calorie. You will lose it again.
I restrained my eating whilst working at home and dashed out to shop for DS and girlfriend visit this weekend. Both can eat for England and girlfriend is about 10 foot tall and an ex-teenage model to boot! Where was I when the genes were dished out, eh? I bought loads of tasty and fattening things - including my favourite pate and french bread and all the ingredients for a full fried breakfast. I don't mind giving up one of my pounds for the weekend but not the whole 3lb!
Sheila, hope you are well and feeling a bit more reassured over your DD. Like your boomerang DS, mine will be bringing home his washing for a quick turn-around by mum.

10-10-2003, 05:54 PM
Tea and crumpets, Willow? You sound like a very proper English lady. Were you wearing tweeds, too? :) I once had high tea at the Empress Hotel in Victoria, BC (Canada) and was incredibly disappointed. I even had to pack nice clothes just to be able to go into the restaurant--I'd heard about it for years. The tea was okay, but the pastries were bad. Tasteless, dry scones and flavorless tea cakes. And it was expensive! But I love crumpets, too, and I eat the ones at Trader Joe's for 1 pts--so good! Have you tried Sara Lee mini bagels with 6 slices of Hillshire Farms thin-sliced ham, and a wedge of Laughing Cow light? It's a filling, yummy, easy breakfast for only 3 pts. Good snack, too.

Hey, the leader is probably thinking, I'm so glad she's got the courage to come back even when she's gained. I didn't go to my meeting today because I knew I'd gained (I won't even begin to go into what I ate this week, but it ended with my son's birthday dinner last night at my favorite Italian restaurant), and I have a hard time making myself look at the number. I'm a coward--and you are a strong woman!

Charlotte, I love that fish, too! Glad the monitor was easy to fix. Do you have gremlins at your place? Little Maytag gremlins. . .

No, no, Puss, it's Willow Bouquet! I was listening to the news last night and the sportscaster was talking about a player named Ri-shard. All I could think about was that would be a good Hyacinth name--instead of Richard Bucket, she should call him Ri-shard Bouquet! My DH and I had the same thought at the same time and ended up belly laughing. Guess it doesn't take much for us to get going!

I've already written my daughter a two-page letter with photos, but I have no place to send it. I'm looking forward to getting her address. My DH had already started a card for her, too. He had a hard time sleeping on Wednesday night, wondering how she was doing. I'd like to say I did, too, but I take medication so almost nothing interrupts my sleep.

Hey, the other 3FC group I'm on (the 100 lb. Club) is having a convention in Chicago at the end of June (the weekend of June 26). They are thinking of making it open to any 3FC person. I'm planning on going so I'd love to meet some of you there, too.

Jacqui and Bluet--are you guys around? Would love to hear from you.

10-10-2003, 06:54 PM
Hi all!

I am back!

We had a perfectly wonderful time camping last weekend. The weather was fabulous during the day but cool at night which was fine. We were just outside of Banff so the scenery was spectacular with all the colors of the leaves and the green of the pine trees. It was nice just to leave all the troubles at home for a few days ( 5 actually ).

We spent the past 3 days moving mother .....what a job, but we sure did downsize. She is a little disoriented but should settle in nicely. It sure is going to be a lot less stressful knowing she is being checked on.

The diet has gone out the window for now. Hopefully next week when things settle down I will be able to put my heart and mind into it.

It took a while to read all the posts and get caught up on everyone. Glad to hear you found your wedding ring Sheila ... I know what that is like, I packed mine with baby clothes and got it back when I lent them to a friend of mine. It sure wouldn't slip off my finger these days! We were at the Empress last year but didn't have High Tea. I bought the Empress Tea and had my own at home.Nice to hear your monitor is up and running Charlotte....computer trouble is so frusterating!

Welcome Swimmer I am new to the group too!

Hi to everyone I have missed....must get going and get on with supper.


10-10-2003, 11:43 PM
Hi Sweet Ladies,

Have been really busy and stressed with some work issues, and when I get home from work each day I just want to run for cover and put my head in the sand and not talk to anyone. Things have kind of quited down now and maybe I can get back on track. It's just this big old male jerk at work that is getting under my skin. I can handle it.

The weather here has just been fantastic this last week. Finally we have our Indian Summer. The only problem is it woke up all the Asian Beetles and they are getting in the house by hook or crook. Every night I run around the house with my hand vac with a long tube on the end sucking up Asian Beetles. I don't know how they are getting in, we are very careful about keeping doors and windows shut tight. Someone said they have only been released in Wisconsin to control the Dutch Elm Disease. Go figure, it would take Wisconsin to come up with something like that.

Speaking of Wisconsin, the great cheese state, I have never heard of the Laughing Cow Brand of dairy products. It must be around, you would think, but I haven't noticed it.

Our grandson who lives next door is selling his pumpkins, gourds, cornstalks, etc on our lawn. Everyday when he gets home from school (he is in the first grade) he makes a beeline for Grandma and Grandpa's house to see how much money he has made. So far he has made about $20.00. He thinks he is rich.

I love Hyacinth Bouquet, been watching her for years and poor suffering Richard, do you think he will ever get out from Hyacinth (Lady of the House) thumb? Hyacinth's sister and her family are a little hard to digest though. There are so many victums in the show, it is so funny and the English are so polite. I love that about the English people.

I just fell asleep while typing, sorry I have to call it a night. Promise to chat more tomorrow. Take care everyone. You are all special.


10-12-2003, 05:44 AM
Welcome back Jacqui and Bluet - you were missed. Glad you had a good break, Jacqui, interesting you stayed at Banff because I used to live near there but it was in Scotland and it was also really beautiful. You will be able to relax more now that your DM is in assisted dwelling and it may broaden her own interests so will may depend on you less. We are waiting for that for my mother too, she was offered a place where her sister has a unit but the particular unit was the smallest one so she refused it. Hopefully another will become vacant soon.
Bluet - I don't like the sound of your Asian beetles though can't be as bad as the massive cockroaches I had to endure in the Middle East and the Far East, those things are in every house and apartment no matter what you do to get rid of 'em. My particular fear is earwigs and what did DS pitch up with for me yesterday? Big bunch of lilies (lovely) and CHRYSANTHEMUMS!!! I won't have them in the garden never mind the house because my arch enemies just love them. I asked DS has he ever seen them in the house (I buy flowers every week for the house) and he said he thought it was just dahlias I was frightened of. Half right, same creepy hiding place I suppose. I made him shake them to death and cut and arrange them I am such a coward. Poor lad, that's what being nice gets him! Bluet, I can see your DG being the next Richard Branson, so sweet selling the vegetables on the lawn. I am sorry you were having trouble with a guy at work. Some people take delight in being awkward and nasty and I think it's usually because they have a rubbish home life or a damaged personality. I am not sure about the Britsh being polite nowdays, certainly compared to the rest of Europe I have found it to be true, but things are changing. Even the grannies are getting pushy, ha ha.
Well I knew I shouldn't have had the fried breakfast I made for DS and his girl, or the gooey carrot cake with cream or the mint chocolates because a lb crept on overnight. They are leaving tonight so back to basics but I really should have had the willpower to abstain. Talk about an addictive personality!
Sheila, have you heard from DD? I bet she loves it and has made lots of new friends already.
WIllow, you ok, dear?
Sue, if you are out there, we miss you too and hope all is well with you.

10-12-2003, 10:48 PM
Hello Everyone,

Hope you are all doing well. Had another busy weekend. Helped a co-worker paint his office on Saturday. I decided to talk him in to a faux painting technique for his office walls. Well he went along with it. I have done this technique in three rooms in my own home and felt they looked really nice. I chose two colors of beige and brown (manly colors) and spent all of Friday painting the walls and 5 hours on Saturday faux painting the top layer. Well, as to be expected it did not turn out. My GOSH, what was I thinking to even suggest it???? I took DH with me to work after church this morning and he thinks it looks fine. The owner of the office thinks it looks fine. I don't even have the option to paint over it now. What a fiasco. What is my problem? why do I suck myself into these situations in the first place? I don't drink, I don't do sugar or eat white flour, I follow Dr. Kathleen Des Maison's food plan to the letter. In doing so I am suppose to feel centered and sane and radiant. When will I ever learn?

DH and I came home after stopping at the office and had a brunch, then he painted an eave on the house he had replaced. I painted a storm door and two new shutters, to match the colors we have on the house. Then we put up the shutters on some new windows, and rehung the storm door. Then I cleaned up the perenial beds and wash the front windows on the house, put all the painting things away and swept out the garage. And now I am ehausted again and falling asleep at the keyboard.

WILLOW and SUE where are you?

Take are until tomorrow everyone.


10-13-2003, 03:37 PM
Bluet - why do you think the painting you did for your co-worker is not good? If it was fine in your house and he and your DH say it's fine, sounds like you had an attack of the colly-wobbles and lack of confidence. I think we are all like that to a degree when we do something for someone else, fretting it may not be good enough/quite to their taste etc. A friend of mine is a whizz at making celebration cakes for her immediate family. When her co-workers asked her to make some for them, well, this confident, competent cake genius turns into a tortured artiste! I've told her to stop doing favours because she gets into such a twist trying to make perfection, she is never happy with the final result (sees things nobody else does) and for what? She doesn't charge for it, only for the ingredients. Rest assured you have made a good job for your co-worker. Personally, so long as I didn't have to do the work myself I would be thrilled no matter how it turned out!!
Well, I paid for the fried breakfast, chicken and fries, peppermint creams etc Saturday and bacon roll, roast turkey and beef dinner, apple pie and custard and cake etc etc on Sunday because I have put 1.5lb on this morning! Typical case of you can't have your cake and eat it!! Must stop making excuses and knuckle down if I am to look like Liz Hurley at DHs Xmas party, ha ha.
Regards to all

10-13-2003, 09:36 PM
Had son and daughter-in-law and their little guy here on Saturday, plus two of my grandsons from the Twin Cities. They requested, of all things, for lunch, macaroni and cheese and skin-on hot dogs and chips. Gross! I also had Halloween cup cakes for them.

Sunday, my granddaughter from the Twin cities came down, and she and her mother came here to talk to me about my granddaughters financial troubles. She's 19 and will be graduating from Minnesota Business College in a couple of weeks, but she doesn't have an ounce of common sense. My son, her Dad, is fed up with her shenanigans and refuses to bail her out any more.
I gave her $230.00 and told her that's the last time. She needs to start being responsible. Too much partying. Of course, I've never partied!

Food was finally good today. Had cereal, fruit and sk. milk for breakfast, cottage cheese and fruit for lunch and saute'ed fresh veggies for supper.

I found a recipe for granola bars the other day, and I'm going to make some if I can find the recipe again.

I didn't take my protonix today, and I'm tempted to not take it at all anymore. I wonder if that's what is causing the queasy feeling and the pain in my back/upper abdomen/chest, ...Think I'll try just taking zantac for a while.

Have to work overtime all week. Have to go in at 5 AM. It's gonna be a long week!

Charlotte, good thing there with your monitor working again. Are you sure you don't have a resident ghost? :D How are things progressing with your house? Think you'll get it done by winter?

I'm sure glad for you that the remicade is lasting 6 weeks now.

Sheila, have you had that dental work done by now? Ooooooh, I hope they gave you some good pain meds so you don't suffer.

Hi Jacquie, so good to see you back. I'm envious of your vacation. Sounds so calming.
My diet was out the window for a couple of weeks too, but, hopefully, today got me back on track. I'm trying to stay with more vegetables and fruits and complex carbohydrates, and less meats, especially fatty ones.

What I need to do is get stern with myself about exercise. I'm just not consistent. I need to MAKE myself get out and JUST DO IT!!!
We'll get there yet Jacquie, just watch us! :D

Hi to you also Bluet! I thought we might have lost you and Jacquie for a while there. ;)
I hope you got your problem with the male jerk resolved.
Those Laughing Cow cheese products are usually in the deli area here where I live. They're good! :)

I'm betting that your co-workers newly painted office looks fantastic. And it sounds like you worked your fanny off after you got home too. Bet you wore some calories off doing all that work!

You know, I think about Sue a lot too. She was fun. But, I think she's left us, as it's been a long time since she posted. I just hope she hasn't become ill.

Puss, what in the world are earwigs?? I'm assuming they are some kind of insect, but, how big, and do they bite?

We've been invaded by the Asian beetles and the box elder bugs. I'll be glad when it gets too cold for them.

If I'd had all that variety of food that you had this past weekend, I KNOW I would have gained more than 1.5 pounds. Now you'll have time to take it off again.

I can't believe that Christmas is just around the corner again. I am not looking forward to it except for the time I get to spend with the family.
I always feel like I'm not giving them enough for a gift. I DO NOT like to shop.

One of my headlights burned out last week and I just now today stopped and bought another one and put it in. It took all of 3 minutes. I'm such a procrastinator!

Well folks, I need to get things rounded up for tomorrow.
Everybody have a good night/day. See ya tomorrow!

10-13-2003, 11:52 PM
Ooohh, bug talk--yuck! Are Asian beetles the big ones? I can't stand earwigs either, and we always get them in fresh corn. I can't have flowers in the house because the cats knock them over and rip them apart so at least I know I won't have any earwigs in the house. We do have lots of spiders, though. When I lived in Colorado, we had a couple of miller moth invasions. They would move from the plains to the mountains (and then back again), and would totally sneak in everywhere. I would open my silverware drawer and there would be dead (or sometimes live) moths. The vacuum got really full fast. Luckily, it only happened twice in the five years we lived there, but once was enough. Colorado is also where I saw my first tomato hornworm. If you've never seen one, count yourself lucky! We just have slugs here--I can handle them.

Bluet, sorry you're having problems at work. We spend so much of our time at work that it should be a pleasant place, but office politics and weird personalities usually shoot that all to ****. And I bet that office looks really good, despite what you think. Everybody else couldn't be wrong, right?

Laughing Cow is definitely made in Wisconsin. We had to look yesterday just because of those "happy cow" commercials from California. I said if California had happy cows, then laughing cows must be from Wisconsin--they're laughing at all the happy cow ads! And, sure enough, I was right (well, at least about where the cheese ccomes from). Speaking of Laughing Cow, I pounded a chicken breast flat, put a slice of deli ham on it and a wedge of Laughing Cow, rolled it in Italian bread crumbs and baked it for 45 minutes. It was really good! A poor fat person's Chicken Cordon Bleu!

Jacquie, glad you had such a great time. I love that area. There's a little lake near there called Lake Kathleen (must be a relative of Lake Louise?), I believe. There was a one-way road over this incredibly steep hillside and it would change directions depending on the hour. Of course, we had forgotten about changing time zones, and almost had a head on collision at the top of a pass. Oops! It was certainly worth the drive to get there. First time I ever heard a loon was there.

Gee, you make me hungry, Puss. I don't know what a peppermint cream is, but it sounds wonderful. Liz Hurley--the stick woman. I'd be thrilled to look like Judi Dench!

My DH went out to the mailbox today to see if we got anything from our DD. He kept forgetting it was a holiday and found himself trying to go again after the first time yielded no mail. He got so antsy I told him to take a subscription card from a magazine, put it in the mailbox, come back in, then go out and take it out of the box. At least he'd feel like he'd gotten some mail! I know what he's going through, though. I have three letters written to my DD and nowhere to send them. It's quite frustrating.

Willow, my DD left me to pay her bills, and I was so upset when I saw how much she'd charged plus her cell phone bill. I didn't think anyone could make that many calls in a month! At least for two months she will only have to pay the minimum rather than the extra charges. She has to work to support her cell phone habit alone. Anyway, I've bailed my kids out before, but no more. It's sad when they get into bad financial trouble so young.

My DH had his dental work done today. He was only in the chair for an hour--I've got my two-hour session to look forward to on Wednesday. Hah! I cancelled my second acupuncture appointment for the same afternoon. I figured I was probably going to be too out of it from the morning dentist session to become a pincushion in the afternoon. Last week's treatment did seem to help, though, at least temporarily, so I do want to reschedule. And I am looking forward to having the dentist alleviate the pain in my mouth that I've been living with for five months.

I've gotten back on track with my eating finally. I did get sucked in by peanut butter today, but I counted it as part of my food intake so it's still part of my plan. I made a great recipe from a Weight Watcher magazine--a stir-fry with a spicy peanut sauce and lots of veggies. Since my DH had to use the car, I couldn't go to aerobics, but I did a Richard Simmons tape in my living room in the morning and walked my dogs in the afternoon. Since starting glucosamine, my 16 year old dog has become almost too active. She's a Husky mix and always pulled on the leash anyway, but it was tolerable as she got older. Now she's starting to pull again because her joints feel better, and she can drag me around, especially if she sees a squirrel that she wants to chase or a dog that she wants to meet. Luckily, she didn't notice the squirrel today, and we didn't meet a dog, since I had both dogs with me. I could just see me falling on my tush as she pulled me and the other dog wrapped his leash around my legs. Whew--glad that didn't happen!

Hope everyone had a good Monday!

10-14-2003, 07:38 PM
Willow, you are a good grandma helping GD out. Where is the twin cities? Pardon my ignorance. I really don't envy you starting work at 5am, takes me all my time to rise at 0710 after reading till 0100 I suppose it's my own fault. Gosh, all this bug talk, what are Box elder bugs, Miller moths and Sheila's Hornworms? Spiders don't bother me, they are the housewives' friends and I can pick even huge ones up to move them out of the way but your US bugs sound in a different league to what we have. I hope your tweaking the medication helps, Willow, but do take care with it. Sheila, those chicken breasts sound delicious and a good alternative to the fat-laden originals. Peppermint creams are just a variety of chocolate, little ones filled with the mint cream and wrapped individually. They don't seem so bad until I look down at the coffee table and see how many empty wrappers I've got through. Had to laugh at the mean trick you played on DH with the mail box! He is so sweet and sensitive, unlike my DH who used to fall asleep the moment his head hit the pillow and I would be lying awake waiting for the kids to come home from a night club imagining them dead somewhere. I suppose he had the right idea, he used to say there was nothing gained in lying awake waiting for them but I never could sleep till I heard their key in the door. I had an image of your dear dog pulling you along like he was a young pup. The side effects of my cat's medication is increased appetite. We always used to say he'd lost his appetite and found a hog's but now I think he is keeping the fishing industry going. Glad someone is keeping little old Richard Simmons employed, his clones are still gathering dust at the back of my cupboard.
Have been almost good today bar two little chocolate wafer biscuits - had a light dinner to compensate.
Regards to Angel, Bluet and Jacqui and hope you are all well. Sue, I hope you are healthy and happy too, whatever you are doing.

10-14-2003, 09:20 PM
Just staying on long enough to say "hi" and also tell you that we finally got the form letter from the Navy that tells us where to send our mail. Within 1/2 hour of getting it, my DH had driven down to the post office and put the letters in the mail. I also sent e-mails to DD's friends telling them her address--hope they write. Although I don't expect many letters in return (boot camp keeps 'em busy!), I want her to feel like she isn't alone, and that we're thinking about her.

10-14-2003, 11:02 PM
Geesh, with this overtime, I seem to do nothing but go to work, come home and get my things ready for the next day and go to bed, just to get up and do it all over again. :dizzy:

Sheila, Asian Beetles are like ladybugs, but a little lighter in color, more tan than orange, and they are also a lot bigger. They bite too, and if you squish them, they stink something awful! :p

Tomato hornworms reminds me of a time when I was little, and we were laying outside on blankets because it was so hot in the house, (we lived in the country) and everyone had settled down and was just dozing off and all of a sudden my older(by 7 years) sister came straight up from the ground, screaming bloody murder that there was a snake crawling on her,, waving her arms and jumping up and down and spinning around, and all it was, was a tomato hornworm. I thought she looked like a fool dancing around there, and couldn't help but laugh.
Besides, I thought she deserved it because she had scared me into hysterics once by telling me that there was a big spider on my back, and when I started screaming for her to take it off, she said she couldn't because she was afraid of it. I truly went into hysterics too. There wasn't even a spider on my back, she was just being mean and scaring me. And she also stepped in my dolls cradle and broke it and broke my dolls head. It was the only doll I ever had in my life. To this day, I say she did it on purpose, because I saw her do it. Anyway, the mention of tomato hornworms gave me a good laugh.

Gosh, I was feeling so bad for you and your hubby, missing your daughter so much. It's a hard thing to do, letting go to let them go into military service. It's even worse than when they go away to college.
I'm happy for you that you at least have an address to send her mail to. She'll really look forward to those letters too, because they DO get very homesick.

Puss, The Twin Cities are Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota. A huge metropolis. My kids, 3 of them and their families, live in suburbs of the Twin Cities, but everyone calls that general area, the Twin Cities.
Hornworms are usually in the general area of tomato plants. They are about 3 inches long, fat and green with 2 yellow stripes down their back and a little black horn about 1/2 inch long sticking up from their head.
Box elder bugs are kind of pretty, I think, black and red, and multiply anywhere there are box elder trees, but they don't stay on the trees, they swarm the outsides (and insides, if they can get in) of buildings. They like the warmth of the sun heating up the exterior walls of buildings. They don't bite or carry diseases or anything like that. They're just a nuisance. Miller moths are kind of a tan color, and are a real nuisance too. They seem to be able to get in where there is no opening. And of course, light attracts them.

I too couldn't sleep when my kids were out. I think we worry about them until we die.

My foods were pretty good again today. My sister wants me to go out to her house for supper tomorrow night, but, I told her not to wait supper for me. I'll run out there for a while though because my great nephew and his wife and baby are there, with his mother whom I haven't seen in many years and I just loved her. A very nice girl. My sisters son was 18 years old and his fiance' was pregnant, and the week before the wedding, at his bachelor party, he dropped dead of a ruptured aneurysm. This is his fiance and the "baby" who are here now. The son is now 29 years old and has a little boy of his own. They live far away and I haven't seen them in years, and have never met his wife and baby.

I got all the ingredients yesterday, but haven't had a chance yet to make my granola. Maybe tomorrow after work. Hope it turns out.

I better get to bed. 3 AM comes fast.

Hi Jacquie, Bluet, Charlotte and Sue, and anyone else out there. Stop in and say hello! :wave:

10-15-2003, 06:52 PM
Hi Everyone,

What a gorgeous day we are having in Wisconsin today. Autumn leaves are showing their full color, and soon the snow flakes will be flying. Gets way too dark too soon though. I looked into one of those alarm clocks that has a system on the top that gives one the impression that the sun is rising and then you have complete daylight in your room at the appropriate time in the morning. They are suppose to help with SAD. But they cost $150.00 dollars that I am not willing to spend right now. I guess I'll just have to bum along and get by during the winter months until the days get longer again.

After the Packer game on Sunday, I cleaned up the perennial beds and emptied the little pond and covered it with some fiberglass. I did some painting and swept the garage, so I felt like I accomplished something last weekend, but there is always something to do.

I looked up the Laughing Cow on the internet and sure enough it is produced by Kaukauna Cheese, which is just a hop skip and jump from our place. We used to ship to Land O Lakes in the Twin Cities, when we farmed, so of course I had to buy all Land O Lakes dairy products. Next time I am in the grocery I am going to hunt up some Laughing Cow Cheese.

Shiela, your Cordon Blue really sounded good. I'll have to give it a try sometime. Sounds quick and easy too, my kind of cooking. When we were on the farm I had to cook and bake so much, that I just don't choose to do it anymore and being on Kathleen Des Maison's program, I don't eat white flour or sugar, so DH and I put together some protein and whole grains or vegetables and we are perfectly content with that. Good that you heard where to send your DD mail. She is going to be very happy when she gets that bundle of mail from Mom and Dad.

Puss, I am reading another book, and guess what it does not take place in England or any of the British Isles. It take place in San Francisco in the 1920's. It is about a doctor and his reckless son and a woman (of course) that the dear doctor saves from a gun shot wound to the back. It is a pretty good story line, but I have read others that I like better. Aren't you terribly worried about DH in the middle east? I know if I were you I would be worried all the time. If I had all the snackies that you had, I would probably have put on 5 pounds, you are very fortunate that you system is more forgiving than mine.

Willow, you must be just beat. I can't do those hours anymore, I just get too tired. How long do you have to stay on this overtime? You GD is really lucky to have you. Too bad you had to give up your hard earned money because of her over spending. You are such a good person. And to have your doll stomped on too, funny how those memories stick with one forever. I am still getting those damn Asian Bettles in the house. Geeze, I hate those things. Flies too I just get nuts when a fly gets in.

The people in the office are ok with the faux paintng, except one guy wanted to know when I was going to put the last coat of paint on. He thought the faux painting was a first coat primer. What the heck, MEN!

Take care all of you....wishing you all well :grouphug:

10-15-2003, 09:51 PM
Have had good food days this week.
Woke up from chest and back discomfort last night.
Working overtime all week, so I have 2 days of getting up at 3 AM yet.

I had a big old baked potato with some chili on it that I made last week and froze in small servings. I mean I made and froze the chili last week, not the baked potato. :rolleyes: I put LOTS of veggies in the chili too. I also had some cottage cheese with it.

I made some granola, and it's in the oven yet, so I don't know how it's going to taste, or how many WW points per serving, because I don't know how many servings I'm going to get out of it yet. I made a huge batch. Threw in everything but the kitchen sink. dried apricots, dried apple rings, golden and dark raisins, dates, walnuts, honey, Kashi good Friends cereal, old fashioned rolled oats, banana slices, cinnamon and nutmeg. It made 2 big pans of it. I have the total calories and WW points, but need to wait till I divide it up to see how many servings I get.

I threw some calico beans in the crock pot with some fat free ham slices and will let it cook overnight.

It's kind of cool here today. I love this weather.

WW meeting tomorrow night. Wonder how I'm doing.

Bluet, I'd love to get one of those clocks. Where can they be purchased? Does the light get very bright, as in does it light up the whole room, brightly?

I just have to work overtime this week, as far as I know. But, then again, they could come next Monday and say O.T. all week again.
We just got word last Friday that they had called 9 people back to work as of next Monday. Well, it never came to fruition. They had a meeting late yesterday and said the call-back was canceled, due to some of the Chrysler plants in Windsor, Ca. having shut-downs over the next 5 weeks. In fact, we may have a small voluntary lay-off at our plant because of it. I might just volunteer for it too. I could use another vacation.

I got a good chuckle out of the male co-worker thinking the paint job was a coat of primer. :lol:

My neices Brother-in-law, who is a county commissioner, so I know he has a FEW brains, called her one time on Christmas morning, and said he was going to surprise Anita and make some Tom and Jerry's from scratch. He even had the recipe out, he said, and he was having trouble with it. Wanted her to come over and explain a couple things, or terms, to him. My neice went over there, and he had done just fine until the recipe said, 6 eggs,(separated), .......
He had 6 little bowls out on the counter top, each with an egg in it. :lol:

I too hate a fly to get in the house. It drives me crazy, and I'll stalk it till I kill it. Also, a mouse. I am terrified of them. And every fall, I get a couple in my house. Then I'm washing all the pots and pans again before I use them because I'm afraid the mouse might have been on one of them.

One bit me one time, and I'm always afraid it might happen again. It just gave me the willies!
My friend and I had just gone to sleep, and all of a sudden a stinging on my thumb woke me up, and just as I woke up, I felt the mouse jump off my hand. Well, I screamed so long and loud, and told my friend what had happened, and insisted that he get up and find that damned mouse and kill it. He layed there and laughed so hard he could hardly talk! he said, "That poor damned mouse was probably so scared from the way you screamed, that it's probably either in the next town (7 miles away) by now, or else it died from heart failure from you screaming."
Then I called the emergency room to see what I should do, because I thought mice might be carriers of rabies or something. The nurse must have thought I was off my rocker, because when I asked her if mice could have rabies, and told her I had just been bitten, she said, "I doubt that it has rabies. Has it been acting strangely lately?" I couldn't believe my ears! I said, "How would I know how a damned mouse has been acting? I've never seen it before!"
Well, finally she explained that she thought it was a pet, white mouse. I said, "no, it's a wild one!"
Well, every time I opened my mouth to say more, my boyfriend howled louder with laughter!
I finally just hung up and cleaned my thumb with antiseptic and slept with the light on the rest of the night. But, I doubt that would have mattered to the mouse, if he had had an inclination to return!

Well, I suppose I should get ready for bed. Only 2 more days of this.

Hello to everyone out there. Have a good day, or evening, depending on where you live.
See you tomorrow.

10-16-2003, 12:11 AM
Willow, you are such a funny lady. I love your stories.
There are a lot of web sites that explain about the SUNRISE CLOCK, one of them is biobrite.com/cart/clocks.php3. I am not advertising them, I heard about them on the radiant recovery forum and some of the ladies with SAD have purchased either a light box or a Sunrise Clock. Good Luck on your search. This one starts at $124.00, maybe I can talk DH into getting one. He always says I am not good in the morning. ;)

Please don't scare me with those chest pain stories. See a doctor if they continue.

Take care.


10-16-2003, 04:35 AM
Computer kept timing out and then taking an age to re-load last night so will definately change providers on the internet. DH has been saying this for ages but I have been putting him off as the thought of changing/informing everyone of new address etc was too much. I will ask him to go ahead once he gets back home.
Sheila you must feel much better now you have somewhere to send DDs mail. I am sure she will feel more settled when she knows everything is just as she left it and she is missed. Willow - MICE! Urghh! When I was a newly wed I thought I saw one scooting across my kitchen floor and just like the Tom and Jerry cartoons, jumped on my kitchen table screaming and crying. DH was at work but the next door neighbour and his two big sons came crashing into the kitchen looking for a murderer! They eventually found a little field mouse but I was all ready to move into an hotel. I am just the same now with them. Same with hamsters, my friend's kids lost theirs in the house for a few days and I wouldn't go round till it was found, ha ha. Your foods sound lovely, especially the granola. I have never had those bars but last week bought two boxes for DS who never has time for breakfast. No point asking HIM if they were nice, he would eat anything that didn't eat him first! Tragic story about your poor nephew, just shows that we never know the day, do we, and to make the most of life. What's so funny about your neice's relative and the 6 bowls for 6 eggs? My DH doesn't cook but 30 years ago I remember him trying an omelete and he did the same, separate bowls/plates for each ingredient and using nearly every bit of crockery/cutlery in the house. Never again, it did my head in just watching and it took a lifetime to make and the mess! So, if it were a clever tactic then it worked. DD seems to have taken after him in the culinary dept but always has boyfriend who can cook, as can her brother. Bluet, I have heard of lamps for SAD. I remember a local lady killed herself because of that condition. Her DH said she had it for years and had even planned to re-locate to Spain. It must be awful. I am the complete opposite, I love the winter, dark early nights etc. Think it is the hermit in me where you can batton down the hatches and repel all borders. You had a busy weekend with the garden and the pond, no wonder you felt satisfied with the work done. I have decided to leave the leaves until they are all down. Your book sounds good though I prefer thrillers myself. I have recently discovered a new (to me) American author called Brad Meltzer who, like John Grisham, is a lawyer himself and is just as good if not better, his 'The 10th Justice' is a cracker of a read. "The First Council" also gives detailed descriptions of the interior of the White House and West Wing (the author used to write speeches for Clinton, I think) No, I don't worry about DH being in Abu Dhabi politically but I do worry about his health having had 3 heart attacks. He loves the food out there and still doesn't eat healthily though he is tall and slim and doesn't need to watch his weight. All his laundry gets sent out for cleaning - this man is not made for batchelor living at all, good job he has a lovely, charming and calm disposition because domestically, he's a non-starter, ha ha. Product of being an only child and doting mother and GM!
Well I am back to 146lb but I was 145.5 the other week so unless this is going to be the pattern for months and then I slide into big gains again, I have to set my mind to not having 'just that little piece of cake' etc because I can't control quantities once I start on them. I am working from home today - I usually gain through lack of movement- but plan to cook a big curry and big bolognaise mixture to freeze for future days.
Angel - how are you? Hope you are ok and looking forward to the new upheaval of getting your house back for Christmas.
Regards to Jacqui, hope you are well too.

10-16-2003, 05:54 AM
What is a grandmother?

What is a grandmother? (taken from papers written by a class of 8-year-olds)

A grandmother is a lady who has no little children of her own. She likes other people's.

A grandfather is a man grandmother.

Grandmothers don't have to do anything except be there when we come to see them. They are so old they shouldn't play hard or run. It is good if they drive us to the store and have lots of quarters for us.

When they take us for walks, they slow down past things like pretty leaves and caterpillars. They show us and talk to us about the color of the flowers and also Why we shouldn't step on "cracks." They don't say, "Hurry up."

Usually grandmothers are fat, but not too fat to tie your shoes. They wear glasses and funny underwear. They can take their teeth and gums out.

Grandmothers don't have to be smart. They have to answer questions like "why isn't God married?" and "How come dogs chase cats?".

When they read to us, they don't skip. They don't mind if we ask for the same story over again.

Everybody should try to have a grandmother, especially if you don't have television, because they are the only grown ups who like to spend time with us.

They know we should have snack-time before bedtime and they say prayers with us every time, and kiss us even when we've acted bad.

10-16-2003, 06:02 AM
Puss, I don't know if you were being funny, or what, but, ............
it was funny to me because the recipe meant to separate the yolks from the whites of 6 eggs, .................. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Now it seems even funnier!
Oh Lord! I'm losing it! I think I need some more overtime!

10-16-2003, 08:15 AM
Willow - I was being cynical, who else but a man (pardon me if you are a man who is the exception) would use 6 bowls for 6 eggs. I can give you a better example of domestics the hard way, years ago my DH offered to make some hot chocolate drink for us. I said I didn't want mine made with full milk so could I please have half water half milk. DH said yes, he would have the same. What does he do? Maybe pour one mug of milk in the pan followed by one mug of water using the same mug? Nah! Too simple. He laboriously pours milk into two mugs to a half-way level then takes both mugs to the kitchen tap and tops both up very carefully with water and pours both into the pan. I was totally bemused watching these antics and when I pointed out the most logical (as I see it) and quickest way of doing it, he makes every excuse under the sun to hide the fact that it was not practical or logical the way he did it. And he's a scientist!! Case of too many brains not enough common sense, bless him.
I could write a book, honestly.

10-16-2003, 02:03 PM

10-17-2003, 07:43 PM