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Old 01-22-2016, 02:12 PM   #1  
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Hi all
My wife and I are very new to the idea of trying to use a WW system.
We have not joined anything "officially," we're just trying to make some changes that matter.

So, I'm not sure I totally understand everything, but I have to say that I'm *not very impressed with the amount of tracking that needs to be done in the WW points+ system. I'm looking for something that basically declares all raw fruits and non-starchy veggies to be "free"... and then assigns a simple and easy to track "point value" to things like meats, fats, dairy.

From my very sparse reading so far, it seems like something like the "Momentum Plan - Simply Filling" might be what I'm looking for... but truthfully, I need some help from an "expert" in this area. Hoping I can get that here!

I'm 52yrs old, 5'8" tall, currently at 190lbs. I'd like to lose about 8lbs. My wife is 50, and I'm sure would like to lose in the neighborhood of 10lbs or more.

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Old 01-24-2016, 02:23 AM   #2  
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OK I think you are confusing a couple of things.

Momentum was the plan in effect before 12/2010. It can be used but is harder to use as it is not supported by WW any more.

WW has for years run two programs at once. On all of them Simply Filling was an option and is still an option in the current WW plan. In short you don't have to do Momentum to do Simply Filling. You can do that right now on the current plan.

Momentum - Points plan available before 12/10. As I recall the formula for points used calories, fat, and fiber. Non-starchy veggies were 0 points, Fruit had points. All other foods were assigned points based upon the formula.

PointsPlus - Plan available from 12/10 to 12/15. Formula used Fat, Carbs, Fiber and Protein. Non-starchy veggies and fruit were 0 points. All other foods were assigned points based upon the formula.

SmartPoints - Current Plan. Formula uses Saturated Fat, Sugar, Protein, and Calories. Non-starchy veggies and fruit are 0 points. All other foods were assigned points based upon the formula.

In short all of the points based plans since Momentum have 0 point veggies and fruit and assign points to other foods based upon a formula. Momentum also did that, but fruit had points.

Personally, I now use SmartPoints. I used Points Plus and before that Momentum when they were current plans. Of all of the plans I liked SmartPoints the best. If you want 0 point non-starchy veggies and 0 fruit then I would suggest SmartPoints since it is the current plan supported by Weight Watchers. If you join WW, the calculator and food database will all use SmartPoints.

However, an option is to use Simply Filling which was available on the various plans and is still available.

Simply Filling is different. Certain foods are what are now called No Count Foods (used to be called Power Foods). If you eat those foods you don't count points for them. So, lean chicken for example doesn't have to be counted. If you mostly eat the foods that are No Count foods then Simply Filling is great. It also helps to not eat many processed foods.

I didn't like it because certain foods that I liked weren't on the list.

For example, nuts weren't on the list. Reduced fat cheese wasn't on the list (nonfat was). Whole grain bread wasn't on the list unless it was reduced calorie bread.

You are allowed to eat foods not on the No Count list, but you have to use weekly points to eat them. You get from 14 to 42 weekly points a week depending on weight, height, gender and age. My husband and I are both at goal weight. He gets 35 weekly points and I get 28.

I would run out of those quickly on Simply filling. One serving of pistachios (which I eat almost every day) would use up 5 of my weekly points. A piece of non-reduced calorie whole grain bread (that I like) is another 3 of my weekly points and so on.

That said, plenty of people are perfectly happy with the foods on the Simply Filling list and so they don't really care about how restricted the list is because it gives them the foods they want to eat. I like that WW offers the choice of Simply Filling even though it doesn't quite work for me.

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please post.
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