Diabetes Support - July Diabetes/Prediabetes Support Chat




Shannonsnail
07-01-2014, 10:36 AM
Welcome to July! Let's continue chatting!


pattygirl63
07-01-2014, 11:54 AM
Weight was up 1.4 lbs today, but I'm sure it was the sodium from eating at KFC yesterday. I used to like going to that particular KFC because they have a buffet and I can get veggies, but it just didn't taste like it used to. DH was hungry for it and enjoyed it so I guess it wasn't a total loss. The good thing that has come out of it all is that I'm more determined than ever to be back OP plan today. My fbs was 125 and I don't want to see it go any higher. I've got my plan tracked on MFP. Although MFP gives me a calorie limit, I'm not going to pay attention to that as much as I am just going to keep up with what I eat.
I know the calorie limit is a problem for me but I like seeing the exercise counts. The exercise count keeps me exercising.

Here's to a new month chickies. :carrot: We will get better and better at this as we go KOKO.

Have a great day!!!!

moonkissed
07-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Well I called my doctor this morning and found out what my A1C was...8.9. Better than the 11 when I was first diagnosed lol so it wasn't as bad as I thought but still oh so not great. Also though I wasn't fasting for the test like I usually do as I didn't realize the doctor was going to do the blood themselves. IDK how much of a difference that makes since they usually make me fast.

My FBS was 162 this morning. I haven't been testing at night so I really need to do that. It was super weird this morning I tried lowering the lancet to 3 instead of 4 and I got no blood at all...zero...nada. I don't even know how that is possible. So I upped it to 4 and barely got enough blood to test. So weird.

On the positive side I took a walk this morning! Just a mile & i am slower then a snail riding a turtle but still I am moving!

Happy July everyone!!


Shannonsnail
07-01-2014, 12:56 PM
Well I called my doctor this morning and found out what my A1C was...8.9. Better than the 11 when I was first diagnosed lol so it wasn't as bad as I thought but still oh so not great. Also though I wasn't fasting for the test like I usually do as I didn't realize the doctor was going to do the blood themselves. IDK how much of a difference that makes since they usually make me fast.

My FBS was 162 this morning. I haven't been testing at night so I really need to do that. It was super weird this morning I tried lowering the lancet to 3 instead of 4 and I got no blood at all...zero...nada. I don't even know how that is possible. So I upped it to 4 and barely got enough blood to test. So weird.

On the positive side I took a walk this morning! Just a mile & i am slower then a snail riding a turtle but still I am moving!

Happy July everyone!!

Fasting does not affect the A1c value since it shows glucose control over a three month period, it does affect individual glucose readings which are more of a snapshot at a specific moment.

On my lancet 3 sometimes does not work too. One day I think it took 5 tries!! I just bought a different gauge box of needles, hoping that makes a difference.

Shannonsnail
07-01-2014, 12:59 PM
Thought I would share this today :-)

Wannabehealthy
07-01-2014, 01:51 PM
OMG Shannon! You got them on! Congratulations! Lately, I have had some painful swelling in the knuckles of one thumb and one finger and I was afraid if my ring finger swelled I would have to get my rings cut off so I took them off. When we were going out on Friday I was going to wear them and couldn't get them back on, even though that finger is not swollen. I know as I lose a bit more I will get them back over that knuckle. I think the joints are hurting because of the psoriasis flare...psoriatic arthritis.

Yesterday I wore my Fitbit and totaled 3,121 steps. LOL Guess I better start moving more. Today, I went for my bloodwork, went for breakfast, went to Kohls then to Goodwill, then to Aldis. All with my Fitbit sitting at home on the dresser! I forgot to wear it. Since my bloodwork was over, I bought myself a box of celebratory fudgecicles. I hesitated because they were 13 carbs and 12 gm sugar, but I figured it's AFTER my bloodwork and it's not something I do on a regular basis. I could have bought the sugar-free but then DH wouldn't eat them. I think there are a lot worse things I could be eating.

Moonkissed, that's great that you went for a walk. Don't worry about how far or how fast....you were moving. As time goes on you will be able to increase your distance and your speed. Remember the story of the Tortice and the Hare.

You dropped your A1c 3 points. Next time it will be even better. You can do this! If Rennie and I can do it, you can too!

Trish, we haven't been to KFC for ages. DH prefers boneless skinless chicken breasts and I prefer roasted over fried. When DH wants Long John Silvers I get the chicken strips as I like them better than the fish.

I hadn't been on the scale for a week and I got on this morning to a nice surprise. I am back down to 193. Before I was stuck at 194, now it's 193. But I will keep on keeping on. I have 1 week until my doctor appt and I would love to be 189 by then. That is my next short term goal. Maybe if I really watch my portions I can do it.

Wannabehealthy
07-01-2014, 02:15 PM
Shannon, I just went back and read the rest of the June chat. I'm so sorry to hear about the house...it sounded perfect! But try to be positive. There might have been a reason for all this. Also, the other contract might fall through. I don't mean to get your hopes up, but it happens on House Hunters all the time! LOL

moonkissed
07-01-2014, 02:18 PM
Fasting does not affect the A1c value since it shows glucose control over a three month period, it does affect individual glucose readings which are more of a snapshot at a specific moment.

On my lancet 3 sometimes does not work too. One day I think it took 5 tries!! I just bought a different gauge box of needles, hoping that makes a difference.

ahh ok thanks :) I wasn't sure.

Congrats btw! That is fantastic. The other day I needed to take my ring off and really struggled to get it back on it broke my heart.

Wannabehealthy well actually that 11 was in 2009 & i had it all the way down to 5.9 after that :( So I am back up.

lol @ the forgetting the fitbit. This morning I used the mapmyrun app on my phone and the gps wasn't working right so it didnt track the distance. Luckily I knew where I walked so just came home and did it manually lol

Congrats on 193 & goodluck hitting 189!

pattygirl63
07-01-2014, 03:25 PM
dgramie - So glad the biopsy is done and the dr believes it will come back good.

Shannon - Sorry about the house. I believe if you are supposed to have it that the other people will find something better or if it isnít, God does have a better place for you. Sorry about all the bad things happening right now. I pray all will go well and the Lord will give you the strength to get through it all.

Moonkissed - I didnít go to the doctor for about a year because of financial situation, when I went back my A1c was 8.?. It is now down to 7.1 at my last testing a month ago with just diet, exercise and Metformin. As for the lancets, Iíve done the same thing that Shannon did. I bought a different size... the bluegreen ones from Walmart. You are back on track and you will do fine this time. We all have to go through learning to accept the fact that we must cope with this situation if we want to be healthy and live a long life. I think that I have finally got that in my head. LOL. At least I hope so.

Carol Sue I have decided that there are some foods that I want to include in my eating plan and I do not want to use some of the sweetners that are offered and since Iím not a big sugar eater, I am not going to worry about some of the sugar in the choices I make. I think some things have more to do with portion control. Of course, time will show if Iím right.

Rennie :wave: Hope you are having a good day.

Had lunch all planned and DH decided he wants something else. So have to change my plan, but it will be healthy and okay. Iíll just add a salad and have what I had planned for today tomorrow.

BBL

Wannabehealthy
07-01-2014, 04:03 PM
I have used Fitday for years, but the Fitbit syncs with MFP so I decided to try it out. I guess it takes some getting used to. I know that several of you already use it so maybe you can help me out. I want to find a way to add my own recipes to it. For example, I'm making chili tonight. I saw there was a lot of listings for chili con carne with beans, but there was no way to know if their calculations were equal to my recipe. So I went to Fitday where I know how to enter all the ingredients and then divide to find out the counts for 1 cup. Is there a way I can do that on MFP? I saw where I can enter the recipe and the ingredients, but does it give the counts for each ingredient as you go along? I saw where some other people entered their own chili with a total calories per cup, but no values for fat, fiber, carbs, protein etc.

Trish, I don't use many things that are low fat or artificially sweetened. I do drink Diet Coke and when I make jello for myself I use sugar free, but I don't make that very often. When I was in the hospital the dietician told me that I could eat regular pudding because a serving of that had 15 grm of carb. This is their way of thinking, but I avoid as much sugar as I can, but I would rather just pass on pudding altogether. They gave me that because all I was getting at that time was jello and pudding on a soft food diet. Not my choice, but when that's all their giving you, you eat it. LOL

love2b150
07-01-2014, 04:11 PM
Wow I hadn't updated the paid and missed a whole lot, gotta get to reading before you all get too far ahead of me ;)

Trish I like MFP but I think the count is off. I adjusted the carbs and protein to be what I want but I do think the calories should be higher. It has me at 1338. I mainly pay attention to my carb intake more than anything.

moonkissed, glad your A1c has gone done and wasn't as high as you thought. I use the same finger every day and I think the skin starts to toughen up after awhile. My lancing device is on 2. moonkissed when I first started walking I could barely walk 20 minutes and I sure couldn't do a mile :bravo: to you my friend :) Carol Sue is right you can do this, ha you're doing it, every little bit helps. We're proof :)

Carol Sue, sorry about the flare up, hope the swelling goes down soon :hug: Don't you just hate that when you forget your tracker. Put it near your keys or in the bathroom. I have a pedometer that I wear now and I keep it on the bathroom sink. That's where I go first and start my day so I can snap it on. Good job on your steps, just imagine if you had it on you would have done amazing. I did my best amount of steps yesterday. I just walked in the house at a steady pace for 35 minutes and it helped with my weigh in I think. The kids thought it was funny me walking from the front door to and through the kitchen but they don't know like I know, yet ;). I love fudgecicles sugar free or regular, yum :) Carol Sue I love that story :) You can do this I have full faith that you are gonna watch those portions and surprise you and your doctor :) Carol Sue go to the FOOD tab, then on the dark blue tab click recipe, go to the right of the screen to add your recipe manually, you type in the full ingredient title name/item and compare it to make sure it's the right one. It's tedious in the beginning but you do get use to it.

Shannon that's so true, the other contract might fall through, it happens on House Hunters all the time! and also like Carol Sue and Trish said everything happens for a reason but I love the house just on what you've said :)

weight down 1.2 back to the 150's, 159.4, fbs was 115. Not a bad start of the month at all. My son and I have decided to do a 15lb challenge till Sept 1st. He told me he reached a new low today of 242.6 so he is coming down nicely with football. His goal is 227 and mine is 144. Our first weigh in is Monday. I need to lose 1.5lbs a week to make goal :)

pattygirl63
07-01-2014, 04:43 PM
I have used Fitday for years, but the Fitbit syncs with MFP so I decided to try it out. I guess it takes some getting used to. I know that several of you already use it so maybe you can help me out. I want to find a way to add my own recipes to it. For example, I'm making chili tonight. I saw there was a lot of listings for chili con carne with beans, but there was no way to know if their calculations were equal to my recipe. So I went to Fitday where I know how to enter all the ingredients and then divide to find out the counts for 1 cup. Is there a way I can do that on MFP? I saw where I can enter the recipe and the ingredients, but does it give the counts for each ingredient as you go along? I saw where some other people entered their own chili with a total calories per cup, but no values for fat, fiber, carbs, protein etc.

Trish, I don't use many things that are low fat or artificially sweetened. I do drink Diet Coke and when I make jello for myself I use sugar free, but I don't make that very often. When I was in the hospital the dietician told me that I could eat regular pudding because a serving of that had 15 grm of carb. This is their way of thinking, but I avoid as much sugar as I can, but I would rather just pass on pudding altogether. They gave me that because all I was getting at that time was jello and pudding on a soft food diet. Not my choice, but when that's all their giving you, you eat it. LOL

I'm sorry but I've never used the recipe builder. I have figured my own calories and put the count into it like those you mentioned.

Wannabehealthy
07-01-2014, 06:08 PM
How does MFP figure out your calories. It has me at over 1400!!

Rennie, my husband keeps telling me I'm going to lose the Fitbit. I have the One that is clip-on and he wanted me to get the one you wear on your wrist. I read a lot of reviews of people who said they lost theirs, when they were walking or running outside, which I never do, but I am wearing it all day so I do have it when I go out somewhere. I have it in my pocket. It's really tiny. It shows than you can keep it in your pocket or clipped onto your pocket, clipped onto your waistband or clipped on your bra. I can't lose it or my husband will never let me live it down! LOL

It also shows when you do stairs. So far, it hasn't shown when I go down stairs, but it showed I went up one time, but didn't register the second time. Because of my bad knee I go up and down stairs one step at a time so maybe that's why it's not registering.

love2b150
07-01-2014, 06:24 PM
Carol Sue I forget how it figures your calories, I think it's according to your activity level. Go to My Home tab and click on Goals, I think you enter your information there. Is 1400 too high? You know as you lose weight your calories will go down so that could be it, plus your height is a factor I think, :shrug: I have an additional make shift hook thing I made for my pedometer so that when it slips up/off (like when I go to the bathroom) it will just hang not drop and be gone forever. I where sweats in the house (no pockets and I don't know that this is as fancy as the fitbit, probably not) it probably wouldn't register anything in a pocket. I so want a fitbit :) I am quick to lose things also. I'm gonna do my walk in here again. My son wants to go to the gym but I just don't feel like driving any where. I'm gonna walk up and down the stairs and see what this does. I never thought about it, thanks :)

Carol Sue, my pedometer counts steps going up also but not down.

love2b150
07-01-2014, 10:21 PM
have you all seen this ... I saw it posted on another thread. Haven't watched it yet but did read what's on the page. It's free until Friday 7/4

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/06/28/cereal-killers-movie.aspx

Shannonsnail
07-02-2014, 12:26 AM
have you all seen this ... I saw it posted on another thread. Haven't watched it yet but did read what's on the page. It's free until Friday 7/4

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/06/28/cereal-killers-movie.aspx

Someone posted it in my low carb group and I watched a little, Fathead (similar documentary) was very funny and easy to watch, I was having a hard time getting into this one for some reason.

Wannabehealthy
07-02-2014, 08:39 AM
I lost my post twice. :(

Rennie, I figured out the calories on MFP. I have it set to lose 1 lb per week. I want to lose more, but I'm trying to be realistic. If I had it set for more it would probably allow fewer calories to reach that deficit. Also, I agree that as I lose weight I will be allowed fewer calories. That's so unfair! You do all that work to lose weight and you are rewarded by a reduced calorie allowance. :?:

The Fitbit resets back to 0 at midnight, but saves your data until you sync it into your account on the computer. That's cool. I think the calorie count it shows includes the calories you burn just by living and breathing, because the first day when I had 3.121 steps, it showed that I burned 1,700 calories. This morning when I picked it up from the dresser it had set back to 0 on steps and stairs but already showed 323 calories burned. Now I'm showing 17 steps because all I did was go to the bathroom and log onto the computer, but it shows 455 calories.

I would like to go back to sleep but I want to go to WalMart before it gets crowded.

I saved that video to watch later and I am also going to search for Fathead.

I have to figure out how the Fitbit syncs with MFP.

dgramie
07-02-2014, 09:00 AM
Fbs was 113 today. I haven't walked this week and plan to today if I feel up to it. I'm just a bit sore. I plan to do a bit more around the house today. I don't like just sitting around.

Wannabehealthy
07-02-2014, 09:03 AM
Fbs was 113 today. I haven't walked this week and plan to today if I feel up to it. I'm just a bit sore. I plan to do a bit more around the house today. I don't like just sitting around.

dgramie, that's part of my problem. I LOVE just sitting around and could do it all day! I hope the Fitbit will change that!

moonkissed
07-02-2014, 09:46 AM
Good morning ladies :)

I tested my BS before bed last night & it was 131 (the lowest I have tested it at so far) then this morning my FBS was 144. I think I realized why my morning numbers are higher is that the abilify I am on. The doctor said it could raise my BS & i take it at night before bed. So I am going to say mystery solved lol. I will keep testing to make sure it isn't getting too much higher.

I am struggling a bit because I don't feel like I am eating horrible & I think my numbers should be way lower. Like last night for dinner I ate eggs with onions and bacon. That is like no carbs so why was my BS 131 at night? That was 3-4 hours after I had eaten anything. For lunch I had a salad that was only 16 carbs and I did have grapes for an after lunch snack which I know are not the best fruit choice. It is just frustrating.

Anyways I am about to head out for a walk. Have a great day!

Shannonsnail
07-02-2014, 10:21 AM
FBS 105 today and weight down a tad. I am super backed up! I don't think I've ever been so eager to go to the bathroom! I feel like I'll be at 178 if I ever go, LOL! Making an appt for this afternoon to see more houses, just Olivia and I will go. My heart is not really in it. These are close to but not as big and on average $40K more. I'm still just sick over the other house.

I did watch a little more of Cereal Killers last night...I think the accents distract me, lol!

love2b150
07-02-2014, 11:19 AM
Shannon what caught my eye is the part the said "If we could get all diabetics to eat a high-fat, high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, we would cut the insulin requirement so dramatically that it's been estimated that six pharmaceutical companies would go out of business tomorrow." Contrary to popular belief, you do not get fat from eating fat. You get fat from eating too much sugar and grains. which is what we are all doing or trying to do. It great that we teach other what the experts won't. LOL on the accents :) Hope you get to GO soon :D Good luck with the houses :) and have your brother keep checking on the other, if they don't put up a sign under contract, make your offer :)

Carol Sue sorry about you losing your post, I hate that :( Did you get the recipe builder to work for you? I love that thing. I have so many recipes on there. Glad you got the calorie part figured out. I guess with losing weight it does make sense that you'll need to eat less again that's why I think I should be eating more. But in all honestly I get full from what I eat and it's still not a ton of calories with me not eating high carb foods :shrug: The Omron pedometer sets back at midnight also. But it doesn't save anything so I have to write down my steps and calories at night before I forget :dizzy: That's interesting that it would have that many calories burned just sitting on the dresser and 0 movement, humm!! I'll bet you have a nice count today walking around in Walmart.

dgramie, hope the soreness goes away soon :hug:

moonkissed, frustrating it is :hug:

Trish where are you? :hug:

fbs 117 staying in the teens, I won't complain weight down a little :)

Shannonsnail
07-02-2014, 11:38 AM
Rennie, I essentially worked for pharma companies for the last 12 years before I quit working. I have a great deal of respect for them. However, they are a business and they are in it to make money. Having people get healthy through diet doesn't really make them any money and it doesn't keep doctors and surgeons busy either. I see diabetics on my low carb forum everyday telling how they are off medicine now or at least off insulin. I completely agree with that statement in the movie. This is why I eat high fat now. In a few more months I'm planning to experiment with my own self and go off my statin to see what my labs are. I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe. I fought hard with multiple doctors to get on statins. No one wanted to hear about my lipoproteins bc my cholesterol was just barely above normal. I was working at LipoScience testing myself regularly and our medical director was telling me to keep fighting with them when he would review my results. So, to purposely go off it shows my faith in what I am doing.

I came back by bc I forgot to tell ya'll that I checked my measurements and I've lost another 1/2 in off my waist, 1.5 in off hips, 1/2 in off chest and 1/2 in off thighs since last month. Woohoo! I had been feeling like my butt is missing....I mean I never thought I had a super big butt but lately it just seemed like there was a big difference! I've lost 4 in off my hips, 4.5 in off waist, 2 in off chest, 2.5 in off bra band area and 2 in off thighs (total). Those totals are since end of last year.

Olivia is bouncing all over the house....bc we have to move her carseat to ride in the agent's car we decided to try out her booster for the first time today bc it is easier to move back and forth by myself. She is so excited!

love2b150
07-02-2014, 11:47 AM
Well Shannon regarding all aspects of your post :woohoo: sums it up ... Keep up the great work :) ... PS I have no behind at all and the more weight I lose the flatter it gets, LOL along with the boobs. Call me shapeless ;)

pattygirl63
07-02-2014, 12:09 PM
Rennie Thanks for the link. I'll listen to it later. I did make a copy of the article below it by Dr. Mercola. Going to read that today. I will also look up Fathead.

Last night DH and I were eating junk and he said, "Why am I so hungry? I never eat two of these in a day." I had just made the same statement to myself as it was like I was starving since I came home. When I saw the link Rennie shared, I knew the problem. I had stopped the CO before my trip because I didn't want potty issues on the trip. I had not put it back in my diet when I got home. As a result, I've been craving everything in the world to eat. I don't usually eat at night and I was eating and feeling stuffed (hate that feeling) before going to bed. My fbs was 131 this morning and weight is stuck at 223.8 (thank God it isn't higher) and I know it is the bad habits I'm forming since I got home and I am just as sure it is JUST because I'm not getting the Healthy Oils I was eating before I left for my trip.

I have worked too hard and come too far to have such good results since Christmas to ruin it now by stupid mistakes. I am determined to get this all corrected and to keep losing weight and bringing my fbs down to normal. My goal is to be healthy thin. And I am determined to make it happen.

Carol Sue Sorry you lost your post. I get so mad when that happens to me. The exercise is the thing I've really having to deal with right now. I've done my bike one time this week, however, DH and I have done some store walking this week, but I know I need to do the bike more. I am having my beautician over for 4th cookout, so hopefully with the housework to get ready will be lots of exercise too.

Shannon Congratulations on the inches off. You are doing great. Strange how those inches help. I know I put on a blouse last night to run errand with DH and it was too tight. Besides feeling bloated to start with, that really showed me that I needed to get things back to my normal eating of more low. They do make a difference. I need to measure again because I know I'm basically starting low carb over.

Moonkissed Good progress is knowing why our readings are up. I learned from testing that while some diabetics need an evening snack before bed, I do not. If my bedtime reading is a little high, fbs is always a little higher the next morning. Some people can drink a little red wine before bed to lower fbs the next morning, but not me. It is all learning your own body and how it works. You are on the right track and will do fine.

dgramie Your fbs is doing good.

Running late on everything this morning as I slept an hour longer today. So will get busy. I have my food plan for today if DH doesn't screw it up again.
But I will make better choices today. I want to listen to the link today too. May have DH watch it with me.

Y'all have a good day.

Wannabehealthy
07-02-2014, 12:13 PM
My butt is also somewhat flat...no hips or thighs to speak of either. But boy the belly I have! If I buy pants that fit my waist I need at least an 18 and then they are soooo baggy in the butt and thighs. That's why I look for elastic waist pants. I consider them old lady pants. I don't know what I think I am at 68 years old, but I don't feel like an old lady! LOL

Rennie, we didn't walk around Walmart all that much. Just went in and bought what we needed and left. And DH wanted to go out for breakfast so there went all the calories I burned!! I know I am relaxing a bit because I already had my labs done and I should NOT be doing that.

As far as burning the calories while sitting on my dresser, it set back to zero at midnight. I got up around 6 or 7, so my body was burning calories for 6 or 7 hours. Just not near what I burn when I'm up moving around. That's how I know it's calculating all the calories for 24 hours. You body burns calories just being alive.

love2b150
07-02-2014, 12:34 PM
Trish good for you :) determination is key on this journey. We have definitely got to want it bad enough to keep going. When we become complacent is when we fall. Great head space :)

Well Carol Sue the calories burned helped the breakfast :) I hope :) I have a great pouch in the front also, I call it my Mommy flap, wish I could move it to the back ;)

Wannabehealthy
07-02-2014, 12:39 PM
Rennie, either move the pouch to the back or wear your pants backwards! LOL

Shannon, I wanted to make your cauliflower casserole with the cauliflower I have left but I bought the wrong cheese. I bought Gruyere instead of Gouda, but I'm going to use it anyway. $4 for a little tiny piece...I'm not wasting it! LOL I'll let you know how it tastes.

love2b150
07-02-2014, 12:47 PM
Carol Sue that really made me Laugh Out Loud ... thanks for the chuckle :D

dgramie
07-02-2014, 10:55 PM
Just a fly by tonight to share the news. I do not have Barrett's esphogus! Just really bad Gerds. Also my breast biopsy was normal. No cancer!! Words can not express how relieved I am!!

pattygirl63
07-03-2014, 01:12 AM
Just a fly by tonight to share the news. I do not have Barrett's esphogus! Just really bad Gerds. Also my breast biopsy was normal. No cancer!! Words can not express how relieved I am!!

Great news. Very happy for you Dgramie.:hug::)

Wannabehealthy
07-03-2014, 07:59 AM
Dgramie, that's great news all the way around! I have a hiatal hernia and I used to have gerd symptoms but I quit eating late at night and eating fatty foods and I never get it anymore. I used to pop Pepcid like it was candy. I still have the hiatal hernia but it doesn't bother me unless that's why I have my chronic cough.

Rennie, this morning when I got up my Fitbit said 321 calories burned again. I am going to have to check it if I wake up in the middle of the night and see what it says. I think it calculates your estimated calories burned based on your age, weight, and activity level, which you enter into your online account when you set it up. I always list my activity level as low because I'm not exercising that much right now.

I have decided to cut back on my calories. Although I am eating healthy most of the time I am not losing as I should be. I have always been one who believed you should never go below 1200 calories but I am going to change my attitute about that. I know that lots of people do it, and they are probably the ones who are losing weight while I'm totally stalled!

Moonkissed, I know how you feel when you think you are eating right but your BS numbers are still high. It's possible that you are so insulin resistant that even carbs you ate earlier in the day are effecting your readings at night. Plus, it takes a while for the numbers to come down when you have been running high for a while. Try to cut out as much starchy carbs as you can...sweets, bread, potatoes, rice, pasta....even whole grain bread or sweet potatoes. Let your body get your glucose down, and then start to add small amounts of carbs until you start to see rises in your glucose, which tell you you are eating too much. Don't let yourself get too hungry...fill up on lots of vegetables. They are low calories and low carb, and the fiber in them helps lower glucose, too. Stay away from fruit for now if you can. Even though they are healthy, the sugar in them can raise your glucose. You can do this! Try testing before your meal, and then testing 2 hours later to see how the food you ate effected your glucose. It's possible that your glucose was already up before you ate your low carb dinner. All this testing can get annoying, but it's the best way to figure what and how much to eat. Once you get things under control and know what you can eat you won't have to test so much.

dgramie
07-03-2014, 09:01 AM
Fbs was 106. I slept like a baby.
I am not a night time snacker. My Gerds would start out early in the day. I think my coffee triggered it. I have not had coffee in a wk and I can tell it's so much better.
I know losing weight will help more than anything else. I am on Prilosec twice a day for now. I plan to work extra hard to get the weight off.

Wannabehealthy
07-03-2014, 09:27 AM
Yes, I notice that coffee agrevates it. I usually only drink coffee when I first get up and sometimes not at all. Another thing that's bad is chocolate and before I was diagnosed with diabetes I ate an unbelievable amount of chocolate.

pattygirl63
07-03-2014, 10:54 AM
Just a quick flyby. Busy day today. DH and I are going to Sam's today to try and find some good steaks to grill tomorrow. My beautician, who is becoming a close friend, is coming tomorrow for a cookout and to visit with us. We are planning some carby foods, but I'm throwing some healthy stuff too. I have a Cuisinart ice cream maker and I am going to make strawberry ice cream to go with the strawberry dessert she is bringing. Strange thing is that I lost my instructions for my ice cream maker so I had to go on line to find them. I didn't remember that I can also make yogurt with this one. I found loads of recipes on the Cuisinart website so I may eventually look into making my own yogurt. I know I still have my book that came with it around here somewhere as I never throw that kind of stuff away... I just have to find it.

I read the article about the movie that Rennie shared. I just may purchase the movie as I know I would never get DH to read the article. However, Flat Head made it easier to understand. You know it really is making me wonder if I don't worry about "dieting" too much. I went 2 weeks eating intuitively not worrying about "is this on my diet" etc and I lost 2.8 lbs. I've come back home and trying to get back on "diet" and I've gained weight and my fbs has gone up. I'm going to be re-thinking this. So I just may get the movie to see what it has to say.

Any way got to get busy. Y'all have a good day. I see this new storm is headed up our east coast. Hope everyone stays safe.

BBL

Shannonsnail
07-03-2014, 12:53 PM
Just a fly by tonight to share the news. I do not have Barrett's esphogus! Just really bad Gerds. Also my breast biopsy was normal. No cancer!! Words can not express how relieved I am!!

That is great news! I have horrific GERD and have taken Prilosec two pills per day for years now. I am hoping at some point I can cut back. I have noticed since changing to low carb I never have heartburn (even with prilosec) requring tums before bed which used to be a regular event. At some point I want to try one pill per day and see how I feel.

Wannabehealthy
07-03-2014, 12:55 PM
Trish, I agree that maybe you are doing too much thinking about your diet.

I don't eat steak very much so usually DH only gets steak when we eat out so I can order something else. I like grilled fish and DH doesn't like that. Today I bought 3 steaks to put in the freezer so when I want to make grilled fish for myself DH can have a steak. I got those 3 steaks for the same price he pays for 1 in Texas Roadhouse. Tomorrow we are having hot dogs and hamburgers, baked beans, corn on the cob and potato salad. I will eat my meat without buns and try to go lightly with the other things, but I won't worry about it much. I asked DH if he wanted me to make cookies and he said no. We don't usually have dessert, but there's ice cream here if he wants it.

This morning I took some extra time checking over my Fitbit account online and I was pleasantly surprised to see what all it has. It has a place to enter your foods, but I'm not sure how to do it or how extensive their food list is. It will compare your calories in to your calories burned as recorded on the Fitbit. You can enter your glucose readings 3 times a day, your A1c when you get it checked, your blood pressure every day. It automatically enters your activity from your Fitbit, plus you can enter additional activity. I don't understand that, because unless you don't wear your Fitbit, the activity on it should be all your activity. I know that swimming would have to be entered seperately because the Fitbit One cannot be worn in water. I guess that's why it has that.

This morning we stopped at the shopping center so I could go to the tanning salon. I walked all the way down to the salon before I realized it didn't open until 10 and it was 9:50. I could see DH going into the grocery store to get the corn, way down at the other end of the center. I could not get into the car because I didn't have my keys, and I couldn't call him because my phone was in the car. So I walked down to the store, which is about 2 blocks. Just as I went into the in door I looked over and saw him going out the out door. When someone else came in, I slipped back out and he was already walking up toward the car, so I yelled to him and we walked up together. It was uphill a bit, so it was harder than going downhill. Instead of complaining, I realized that was putting some more activity onto my Fitbit. That kind of thinking is going to make me move more so I will accumulate more steps. I am liking this Fitbit more than I thought I would.

Here I go getting all chatty again! LOL

Wannabehealthy
07-03-2014, 01:26 PM
Back again! Shannon, I wanted to let your know that my cauliflower casserole with the Guyere cheese turned out fabulous! I loved the taste. DH wouldn't even try it. He said it was too mushy, but it really wasn't. We like our cauliflower and broccoli well cooked, not crunchy. It was soft, but was still in the form of flowerettes. I don't think he liked the idea that it had cream cheese in it because he says he doesn't like cream cheese, but he never seems to have a problem with cheesecake! LOL Next time I will have to remind him that he's eating cream cheese. I don't think I will make the casserole again if I have to eat it all myself, but I would definately make it for a dinner when the whole family is over and might even try it with the Gouda. I thought the Guyere was expensive at $8.99 per pound but I saw the Gouda today at $9.99!!!

Shannonsnail
07-03-2014, 02:28 PM
Back again! Shannon, I wanted to let your know that my cauliflower casserole with the Guyere cheese turned out fabulous! I loved the taste. DH wouldn't even try it. He said it was too mushy, but it really wasn't. We like our cauliflower and broccoli well cooked, not crunchy. It was soft, but was still in the form of flowerettes. I don't think he liked the idea that it had cream cheese in it because he says he doesn't like cream cheese, but he never seems to have a problem with cheesecake! LOL Next time I will have to remind him that he's eating cream cheese. I don't think I will make the casserole again if I have to eat it all myself, but I would definately make it for a dinner when the whole family is over and might even try it with the Gouda. I thought the Guyere was expensive at $8.99 per pound but I saw the Gouda today at $9.99!!!

Glad you enjoyed it! I get my gouda at Aldi. They sell it in 4-5 oz pkgs that are perfect. I can't recall how much they were. It is pricey though, I agree. With not purchasing as much junk food, milk (hubby agreed to cut back), bread, etc I seem to be able to afford the things I need for low carb without it making any large dents so far. Last night I was able to pick up a bunch of squash and cukes from my brother's overflowing garden! There is a girl in my low carb group growing cauliflower!!

Shannonsnail
07-03-2014, 02:37 PM
FBS 114 today, elevated for me. Not surprising though, my evening was way off plan with eating dinner out of town and coming home to find hubby saved me his egg roll. I love egg rolls!

I have been busy in the kitchen today. Picked up a marked down roast and got it in the crock for mexican shredded beef that I plan to freeze for later use. Just washed up a ton of strawberries and blueberries so I could get the original containers out of the fridge. My cousin's son is going to stay with us from Friday to probably Tuesday. Her dad is having triple bypass so she needs to be with her mom at the hospital. She lives in SC and her dad is here in NC. Her son's dad, her ex husband, is well, awful, so she didn't want him spending any extra time there so I offered. Our house has no guest room so this will be interesting. I am cleaning and trying to empty the fridge so I can go grocery shopping. Leftovers and produce need dealing with. Our house, as usual, is a disaster. Too much stuff, not enough places to put it.

Saw 8 houses yesterday, 3-4 were nice but about $60K more than our house (we are trying to stay within about $25K of ours). Still just sick over the perfect house :-( the only good to come out of this is that hubby and I both are no longer willing to settle for less than perfect (for us).

love2b150
07-04-2014, 12:42 AM
I had a post on here this afternoon and I must have forgotten to hit enter :(

dgramie glad to hear things are better than you thought :hug:

Carol Sue I think we always have to switch things up on this journey. I know I have to change up often to keep the number on the scale moving :)
Nice walk you had today, yay for lots of movement :) Carol Sue your cookout food sounds delish :drool: I didn't realize the fitbit did so much. I definitely want one now :) Oh yesterday I went to the mall and guess what? Forgot the pedometer. I wanted to kick myself. My son told my daughter to count my steps, she said are you serious?? kids are funny :)

Trish, I still haven't watched it yet and the trial ends tomorrow. I do like the article though :) My little daughter has a recipe she makes ice cream with in a bag. Something she got at school I think. It only makes a small amount but it makes her happy. :)

Shannon you all's dish sounds like the mock mac n cheese. Is that what it is? I've made that with cheddar, cream cheese and sour cream, only my youngest will eat it with me, so good. I've also made the mock potato salad. Now that is great :drool: Oh my goodness you and your cooking, I so wish I could be your sampler, and I wish I could get veggies from a garden, oh how I miss that. Good for you :) I'm sure she appreciates you opening your doors to her son, great heart :hug: I hope you all find your dream home soon :)

Wannabehealthy
07-04-2014, 08:40 AM
I sure hope my Carolina girls are safe and sound! I heard that Arthur didn't actually come inland but instead went up the coast, but you probably got residual weather.

Rennie, the Fitbit also works with a smartphone but I don't have one and can't see buying one just to use with the Fitbit. It works fine just with the computer. It's an amazing little tool! It said my calories burned were a little over 1700, so now I know that without adding actual exercise to the mix I will have to cut back on my eating in order to lose. I have good intentions but haven't made it lately. You know what they say about good intentions!

My husband likes his mac and cheese with macaroni, and his potato salad with potatoes, so it would do me no good to try the other recipes. They do sound good, though. Since we have been cooking on the grill a lot lately I have been eating baked potatoes. I have to break that habit in a hurry! I love them cooked on the grill, but I would love getting rid of my belly a whole lot more.

Shannon, that is very nice of you to offer to watch your cousin's son, and it is for a good reason. I hope the surgery goes well. It's a long surgery and then there's time in the recovery room. Kids don't seem to care where they sleep...on the couch, on the floor.

I'm waiting for my potatoes and eggs to cool so I can make my tater salad, so I think I will go watch the video now, if it's still there!

Edit: It expired, but I was able to read the article. It's mostly what I've been hearing recently. The only issues I have is will not be buying the organic grass fed beef or organic eggs. I'm hoping just switching to high fat low carb will help.

love2b150
07-04-2014, 10:36 AM
Happy 4th :)

Carol Sue the good thing about cauliflower (I guess just like macaroni) you only have to make a small Pyrex bowl for you but I guess it is extra work for an individual serving. My husband is a fried chicken and rice guy. But luckily he will eat what I put on his plate within reason. I wouldn't switch his macaroni for cauliflower or even try to get him to eat broccoli. But anywho, I am gonna eventually get the fitbit I just love all that it does :) No problems in my area at all, no rain nothing. But like you said it's moving up the coast. My daughter said it sprinkled in her area not far from here but she didn't even need to roll up the windows of her car so not bad. :) Organic items are often pricey so I'm with you on that :)

My fbs was a little higher this morning at 121 but I hit a new low on the scale 157.2. :)

moonkissed
07-04-2014, 11:02 AM
Just a fly by tonight to share the news. I do not have Barrett's esphogus! Just really bad Gerds. Also my breast biopsy was normal. No cancer!! Words can not express how relieved I am!!

:hug: That is wonderful news! Yay :carrot:

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:hug: Thanks everyone for the advice :)


love2b150- grats on the weight loss!

Wannabehealthy
07-04-2014, 11:12 AM
Good for you on the 157!!! You are obviously doing something right! Woo Hoo!!

The problem I have with making a small portion of the cauliflower casserole is probably the cheese. I don't think I can buy less than 4 oz. I know it would keep for a while. I could freeze it. Or I could make a large portion and portion it out for future meals, but it tastes so good I just eat all of it. Part of my problem is eating too much, even when it's something healthy. When I make mac and cheese for my husband, I could just put some of the cheese sauce on cauliflower rather than macaroni for myself, but I just don't bother. I just eat something else. He only eats that for lunch. It's not something I make for dinner. We do our own breakfast and lunch and dinner is usually planned around something he will eat. I just try to not eat the carby part. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes not.

I didn't get to watch the video that you posted since it had expired but I just watched Fathead. I was a little confused with some of it. I will post my opinions later when I have more time. My potatoes and eggs are cooled so it's time to make the potato salad.

Shannonsnail
07-04-2014, 11:34 AM
Happy 4th ladies! My FBS was 122 today :o My weight was also up. We ate dinner at Golden Corral last night and I stuck to low carb items for the meal but had a few very small pieces of dessert (like all together they might have equaled 3/4 of a normal size dessert). I meant to test last night but time just got away from me and I was ready to get in bed. I think I've become even more insulin resistant or carb sensitive since changing my diet. That kind of makes me wonder if I did the wrong thing, I don't know. I'm trying to make peace with that I would have either been like this now or later, either way. But I struggle with wondering if I made it worse on myself.

Rennie congrats on the scale!!!!
This is the loaded cauli I made that was really good
http://yourlighterside.com/2012/08/loaded-baked-potato-salad-with-cauliflower/
Some of the ladies on my low carb group make it at the beginning of the week and eat on it all week. When I made it Mark ate a serving at dinner, I ate two servings probably then I ate the rest on other days....so all that to say Carol Sue if you like it, it keeps in the fridge....you could make a half recipe also and use the other half of the cauli for something else too. I understand though that hubby is not eating it and that makes it hard to justify. I also do not buy organic foods or grass fed beef. Occasionally Aldi has the grass fed beef and I have bought it like once. They also carry some organic shelf goods that I buy. I don't buy organic as a rule except for Olivia's soy milk. I'm still trying to get her weaned off that. She had stomach issues as a baby and could not drink reg milk. I've tried mixing it but anytime I go more than half and half she stops drinking it.

I finished the Cereal Killers video last night. It was good. Fathead was more entertaining for me but I liked it once I got past the accents! At some point I am going to get back in touch with my old boss to share how I've changed my diet and the effects. He was so on the cutting edge of all this. He actually met and corresponded with so many folks I see in these videos, it's kind of surreal to me now. He emailed with Gary Taubes regularly, for example. I would just love to hear what he has to say now, it's been 2+ yrs since I've gotten to talk science with him. I miss that. He had definitely cut carbs when I knew him but he still ate bread and I don't think he had increased fat. He was kind of in the who,e grains camp at the time. I'm curious if any of that has changed now as more papers are coming out. He co-wrote on so many of them since the test he created was being used in the studies so he was seeing the data before it was ever published.

My cousin is on her way with her son so I guess I better do a little more cleaning. Olivia is literally bouncing off the walls excited....poor Noah, he has no idea what he is in for!

pattygirl63
07-04-2014, 11:53 AM
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY CHICKIES!!!

Quick flyby. Busy day ahead plus trying to treat the day like any other Friday except for when we celebrate the 4th this afternoon. Ice cream made and very much NOT low carb. Couldn't even use the whole amount of ingredients called for because it rain over in maker. I will adjust better next time and may not use any sugar or sweetner at all. DH didn't think it needed any as it is REALLY rich. It was a new recipe. FBS is way up to 144 this morning. Probably from testing the ice cream last night. However, I did lose 1 lbs this week, but still more to go. I guess if I can lose 1 lb a week, I will be happy. Still have 2 more to lose to get back to what I lost on vacation.

Had a beautiful time with DGS this morning. He's been really quiet and I haven't been being a very good Nannie lately. So we talked and I think I may have helped him to learn how to smooth out his relationship with his DGD. I think he hasn't known how to handle some things with him and I think I'm in this family for a purpose... to help heal some relationships rather than cause problems. I think I've finally got things smoothed out with DH DS and somehow things have to get better with his DD. There comes a time when you have to suck it up and accept things the way they are and let God work to make things right. Only God can make good out of bad things. So we have much to be thankful for this 4th.

I sure hope everyone who weathered this storm are okay. Those of you north of me got hit pretty good. Not sure which ones of you were involved. Tony's cousin in Cary,NC usually just gets a lot of rain from them, so I'm hoping that is true of Shannon and Rennie. Not sure about you Carol Sue there in PA.

Got to get busy. Catch y'all later.

Wannabehealthy
07-04-2014, 03:57 PM
Trish, we are in western PA, several miles from Ohio, so our weather is absolutely beautiful. Sunny, high 70's to low 80's all weekend. I know that most people think of PA as the part out by Philadelphia, and they are probably having bad weather.

DH gets along pretty well with his kids but he always thinks that his advice is best, and in their 40's they can listen, but have to make the final decision themselves. He mostly gets into it with his daughter because of her constant financial problems. Without seeing their pay checks as compared to their bills I can't form an opinion, but it seems that they are very careless with their money and that gets them in trouble. DH blames her husband, but it is both of their fault. We finally got them to quit asking us to bail them out all the time and as long as I don't have to pay, I think he should just leave them alone. I think they will live this way the rest of their lives no matter how much money they make. I just thank God that they never brought children into the mix.

Shannon, I would be interested in hearing whatever you learn regarding your insulin resistance being worse because you started eating low carb. Many say that diabetes is progressive and will get worse not matter what you do. I know mine has, but I had been eating high carb for a good while and not exercising. So in a case like that, I do believe it is progressive if you don't do something about it, such as low carb and exercise. I wonder if you would have lost the weight you lost if you hadn't gone to low carb. I also notice that even though you have spikes, your bs recovers quickly compared to mine. Once I have a spike I can't usually get it back down without taking the Amaryl. I think you are heading toward a turnaround but aren't completely there yet. As you lose more weight, it should continue to improve. That's how it went with my friend's mother.

dgramie
07-04-2014, 09:21 PM
We have had a busy few days. My kids came home for a quick visit last night. I got some cuddle time with all 5 of my grands. My older daughter spent the night here in town with my youngest and her hubby in their new house. It was kinda weird because I'm use to them being here. It was nice to wake up to a quite house and not have to cook. They came back for a short visit before heading home.
We had lunch at our neighbors. It was good and we didn't overeat. I have been tired today so came home and laid down. I slept for. 3 hours.
We plan on watching fireworks tonight in the neighborhood.

Wannabehealthy
07-05-2014, 10:30 AM
What a day (and night) I had. This Fitbit is showing me just how sedentary I am. The first couple days we spent a lot of time shopping and running around here and there. Up and down the cellar steps doing laundry, etc. Yesterday I didn't leave the house all day. I did a little cleaning, spent some time in the kitchen getting things ready for our cookout, and this is a normal day for me when I don't do any formal exercise. I had a total of 1733 steps!!! And burned 1664 total calories!! No flights of stairs. No wonder I can't lose weight. The day before I had 4798 steps and burned 1882 calories, 5 flights of stairs. This is really an eye opener for me. Actually, I saw on my Fitbit online dashboard that you get a trophy when you do your first 5000 steps so I guess I just missed it on Thursday. Had I known, I would have made myself do the rest of the 202 steps needed to reach 5000. My house is a ranch so the living space is all on one floor. We have a basement and I have to use the basement stairs to the garage if we go somewhere, do the laundry, get something from our storage area. I usually try to combine trips so I don't have to do the stairs so often because of my knee, but I am going to have to start using the stairs more often. And MOVING some more! And get back to my exercise!

I will have to look at my Fitday account and see how many calories they say I spend in my day to day activity. I thought it was more than 1600. I know that these electronic gadgets are not perfect, but this seems to be in line with my weight loss results.

As to my bad night...I didn't eat lunch yesterday because I knew I was going to have the cookout and wanted to be able to eat. Before I ate I checked my BS and it was 111. I was pleased. However, I ended up eating more potato salad than I intended and had 2 hot dogs with the buns. I think knowing that my BS started out low gave me the false security that I could eat more carbs. I KNOW BETTER, don't I? When I went to bed my BS was in the mid 200's. I was so upset that I took an Amaryl, then decided to take 2 instead of 1. I have never done that before. I could not fall asleep. Finally, I got up around 1:30 and checked my BS out of curiosity. It was 77. Although not dangerously low, it scared me to death, thinking that it COULD go even lower with the meds. So I ate. I had a few fiber crackers with some cream cheese and a couple celery sticks. This morning my bs was 117 and I was happy with that. I dodged the bullet, but didn't eat so much to make me spike.

I need someone to give me a nice hard smack!!

Dgramie, so nice to get to spend quality time with all your grandkids. When I was growing up I rarely saw my grandparents. They were like strangers to me. No one had a car and we had to take a bus to go to visit them and paying bus fare for 5 people was not always in our budget. I grew up with playmates who had a grandparent or two living in their home with them and I was always amazed that they got to see their grandparents every day.

Wannabehealthy
07-05-2014, 11:03 AM
I am posting a separate post so I don't end up writing a novel. LOL I wanted to comment on Fathead. I understand that the point they were making was that you cannot blame obesity on McDonalds (fast food) because this man ate it 3 meals a day and still lost weight and also had good labs, except for his HDL, which went down instead of up. However, I think many people watching that would just assume that this was proof that they could continue eating all the fast food they wanted, and I still don't think that's healthy. He did not eat any fruits and vegetables. Most people who eat fast food regularly do not limit their eating to 3 meals a day. They also plop themselves in front of the TV with chips, ice cream, cookies and other undesirable foods....not with fruits or vegetables. As far as kids are concerned, they cannot just go to McDonalds on their own. They have to be taken there by an adult. Most people say that the kids are thin...they can eat that food. But what about the food habits they take with them into adulthood? So this was what I didn't like about the video.

I liked the part at the end where he showed that you can eat fast food if necessary by removing the bun, and eating a side salad instead of fries. They do not force you to eat the fries...you choose to do it or not. It is enticing because it is cheaper than other restaurant food, and it's a bargain to get the platter rather than buying ala carte. Like they showed, my grandson just want to go there to play in the playhouse, but doesn't really want the food.

I did enjoy the discussions with the doctors. Didn't they say women over 60 should not be taking statins? I have been on them for years and wanted to stop taking them but have been afraid. My thinking "What if this REALLY IS what's keeping me from having a heart attack?" I think I'm going to stop taking it on my own. No one can force me to take a med. DH was given a prescription years ago but never took them and he's still alive at 71 and has no idea what his lipids are and really doesn't care. Shannon, I think I read somewhere that statins promote diabetes. I am going to research that, and in time, see if there's any improvement in my blood sugar. Actually, it may be too late for me because with my sugar running so high for so long the damage to my pancreas has been done and cannot be reversed. But if some of my aches and pains stem from the statins, that will help, too. I have no problem with taking meds to help with your health, but there is also the matter of quality of life, and if the meds are causing bad side effects I'd rather not take them.

Two more days and I will get the results of my lab work. I am very anxious to find out what they are with no exercise. I have all the records from my past labs back as far as 2000. As I look at them I see big swings high and low depending on my diet and activity, and 2011 was my best year. That was the year that I was exercising 300 min 5 days a week, up until I had to have my bowel surgery, and that put a stop to everything. So that is telling. My question...if exercise is what makes my labs good, why take all the meds?

Wannabehealthy
07-05-2014, 12:59 PM
Where is everyone this morning? I guess some of you actually do have a life! LOL I am feeling very chatty this morning as you can see.

I have made a change and am waiting to test to see the outcome. I switched to 1 plain scrambled egg in the morning instead of 2, without the veggies and beans and added a small dish of oatmeal. I have been trying to find a way to use some of my Fiber One cereal without adding extra calories, so I added a sprinkling to my oatmeal. It was satisfying and I will see what this does to my blood sugar in a couple hours. I will just add the veggies and bean to my kale at lunch time to make sure I don't cut back on them. My biggest problem always was and still is, dinner. For years I didn't eat any dinner, or ate something very small. Now that I eat with DH it's a whole meal I've added. I need to learn to eat it, but just a couple bites of everything instead of filling a whole plate. I won't cut back on my breakfast and lunch because they are my favorite meals, and neither are very high calorie. It's that dinner than gets me every time, especially now that I know how very few calories I am actually burning in day to day activity.

We were supposed to stay away from the casino this weekend, but DH wants to go. We didn't spend much money this week so I will probably end up giving in and going because walking around the casino will add to my steps and calories burned. At one casino, there is a walkway that goes all the way around the casino floor, with restaurants and refreshment stations along the way. Sometimes after we eat I walk a few laps around there to get some exercise. That would be good for me to do with my Fitbit.

My dog survived another July 4th. He hates noise, fireworks, storms, when DH uses his power drill, etc. He shakes like a leaf. The past couple days all the neighbors had fireworks and then last night was the community fireworks display about a half mile down the road from us. It's nice because we can sit on our porch and watch. The weather yesterday was beautiful, and after sundown I had to actually put long pants on to sit outside and we both had jackets on. Some guy I didn't recognize was drunk and running up and down the street wearing nothing but a pair of Speedo swim trunks. He needed to lose about 40 lbs. He was approaching everyone who was sitting in their yards, but we were up on the porch in the dark, so he didn't come up to us. Thank God! At least we had a little extra entertainment. I don't think he was from our street because most of our neighbors are senior citizens.

I did some extensive reading about Statins and also Fenofibic which I also take. It says that stopping Statins abruptly can cause a rapid rise in your LDL, so I think I will just cut back to half dose per day. Also, the Fenofibric acid is to be taken in combination with statins so I don't know if I can continue to take them without the statins. I can't talk to my doctor about this because you know he will tell me to continue taking them.

I guess I'll go get some things done so I can go to the casino. I'll leave your girls to digest my ongoing saga. LOL

dgramie
07-05-2014, 08:09 PM
Carol sue- my grands all live an hour away. I wish they were closer but with jobs they had to move away. I have my youngest still living close. She is only 7 miles away. She is married but hasn't started a family yet. She is a RN. And working on finishing her bachelors.
My fbs was 103 today. I did great today until I got the bright idea to make a blackberry cobbler. I was thin and more like a pie. It's not something I want often, pretty much just one bowl a yr is enough for me.

Hubby and I are starting back walking. We took the past week off.
My stitches come out on Tuesday and life can go back to normal.

love2b150
07-05-2014, 09:26 PM
Carol Sue you are a book of information :) That is funny about the person running through your neighborhood.

Shannon I like the idea of mock loaded baked potato, yum. Can't wait to try it :)

Trish good job on the pound :)

dgramie, sounds like things are coming back to normal for you. I'm happy for you.

By the way I absolutely love potato salad ... I'm so glad I can eat the mock potato salad just as well :) My fbs has been in the 120's for two days. I would love to get it under 100. Maybe in after the next 10 pounds :)

MrsTryingAgain
07-06-2014, 12:59 AM
Hi, I'm Gail & I'm new to this support board. I was just diagnosed on Wed. with type 2 diabetes. Shannon suggested I stop over here when I posted my results on the 40-somethings board. So here I am.
I am still a bit in shock, maybe even denial. NO ONE in my family has diabetes. I have been kinda questioning myself as to how this happened. Then again, it's really not that shocking. I have not been taking care of myself by ANY stretch of the imagination for far too long...like 3-4 years! I guess I have reaped what I had sown.
I just don't know where to begin. It's almost like I'm depressed in a way. I feel like the ground has kind of fallen out from under me. All I've really done the last couple of days is hide out in bed. Weird, like I think that I can "hide" from my diagnosis. I KNOW that I can't but I guess I don't know where to start!
I know I need to change up my eating, watching carbs. I know I need to exercise more & get the weight off. I know I need to take the medications & vitamin regiment m doctor gave me. But I feel overwhelmed. How do I shake myself back to reality & start doing what I must? Any guidance or suggestions? I'd love to hear how others have adjusted. Cause I KNOW I can't bury my head in the sand.
Thanks for letting me vent. I'm going to get this thing figured out with help, I just know it!

Wannabehealthy
07-06-2014, 08:29 AM
Hi Gail. We're happy to have you here. Any friend of Shannon's is a friend of ours. No other diabetics in my family. I stumbled through my first year of diabetes not knowing which end was up. I received no diabetes education whatsoever, and what I learned, I learned from the internet. I asked questions on message boards and googled information. Last year, after 5 years of diabetes, I went into denial. I ate whatever I wanted and quit exercising. My glucose went into the 200s and 300s and wouldn't come down. I know I did a lot of damage to my body that cannot be repaired. The thing about diabetes is, everyone is different. You listen to what works for others, then you try it out and see what works for you. It's the same as dieting....every diet does not work for everyone. Your meter is your best friend. It will tell you what you can and can't eat. Meal sizes affect glucose too, as does exercise.

We will be happy to answer any questions you have. Shannon has done very well, and with her background, she is a good source of information.

Wannabehealthy
07-06-2014, 08:45 AM
Girls, my experiment with my oatmeal was a success. 2 hours afterwards my glucose was 112 and 3 hours it was 117. No spike! I think it was the fact that I ate the scrambled egg beaters beforehand. I am happy with that because I like oatmeal, and I also like adding the Fiber One cereal to it. Fiber One is a little bit sweetened, so I don't have to add any sweetener to my oatmeal. This is the little instant packets I have on hand, but when they are gone I am going to move on to try cooked oatmeal.

I did well with my Fitbit yesterday. I logged over 6,000 steps and 3 flights of stairs. I actually did 4 flights, but one didn't register. Because of my knee, I walk up stairs one step at a time. In order for it to register I have to go as quickly as I can and be sure to raise my knees up high as I step up. I was carrying clean clothes up from the laundry room and was lucky to get up those stairs at all. LOL

Because it was my first day over 5,000 steps I got my first Fitbit award. The next award is 10,000 steps. I don't see myself doing that for a while. I love that this thing makes me more conscious of my activity. From what I've been reading online, the diehard fitness gurus say that the step counts and calories burned are not accurate, but what do you want for a $100 item? It's in the ball park and it gives me some insight as to what I'm doing on an active day compared to when I am inactive, and there is a big difference. Anything that gets me to be more active is "working" in my opinion. Also, as I walked through the casino, it reminded me to pick up my pace, and I noticed that I did not get any heart palpitations at all. The bad news is we came home penniless! LOL But that's nothing new.

Shannonsnail
07-06-2014, 09:32 AM
Hi, I'm Gail & I'm new to this support board. I was just diagnosed on Wed. with type 2 diabetes. Shannon suggested I stop over here when I posted my results on the 40-somethings board. So here I am.
I am still a bit in shock, maybe even denial. NO ONE in my family has diabetes. I have been kinda questioning myself as to how this happened. Then again, it's really not that shocking. I have not been taking care of myself by ANY stretch of the imagination for far too long...like 3-4 years! I guess I have reaped what I had sown.
I just don't know where to begin. It's almost like I'm depressed in a way. I feel like the ground has kind of fallen out from under me. All I've really done the last couple of days is hide out in bed. Weird, like I think that I can "hide" from my diagnosis. I KNOW that I can't but I guess I don't know where to start!
I know I need to change up my eating, watching carbs. I know I need to exercise more & get the weight off. I know I need to take the medications & vitamin regiment m doctor gave me. But I feel overwhelmed. How do I shake myself back to reality & start doing what I must? Any guidance or suggestions? I'd love to hear how others have adjusted. Cause I KNOW I can't bury my head in the sand.
Thanks for letting me vent. I'm going to get this thing figured out with help, I just know it!

Hey Gail! So glad you joined us. It's so easy to be in denial but this group is a great way to stay accountable with taking care of yourself. I am prediabetic for about 7 or so years now and have only been trying to change since earlier this year. I know all about denial, lol! Even after I found out in Dec that I was probably already Type 2 but just not showing up high on the one day per quarter I was being tested, I got angry and didn't do anything for a few months. Even now, actively trying to lose weight and eat to my meter, I struggle some with wanting to just quit. Denial is normal, just don't stay there forever!

Carol Sue said it best, your meter is your friend. It will tell you what you need to know. When I was first diagnosed PreD I went to a nutrition class through my local hospital. I didn't change anything then but looking back, the amount of carbs they told me to aim for might have been fine then but now I know they would be too much. I get spikes with pretty much any bread, potatoes, corn or sugary desserts. Pasta is still under experiment!

Each body is different which is why your meter is so important. I hated using it at first, especially since I'm PreD (supplies aren't covered and it varies as to whether a dr will even recommend one), felt it was just so unfair, but I've gotten used to it now. It really is the only way you can find out what is going on with you. (One tip on pricking your finger, I started out with the thinnest needles bc I thought it would hurt less but after having some frustrations with having to try multiple times and wasting strips bc of not getting enough sample I have now gone to the next size and am having much better success and less pain since I now am getting what I need the first time.) So, the meter is your number one guide....we can give you tips on foods to cut out or cut down on but really, that would be based on our own personal bodies, not yours....you may be different.

We have some other regular folks here that may have some other suggestions for you but starting to use your meter regularly is mine. And, I would even go so far as to, possibly controversally, suggest using it for a week without changing anything in your eating just so you can see what your present day looks like. I mostly eat low carb high fat but when I choose to eat off plan, seeing the high numbers is what helps me see why I need to keep at it as a lifestyle change and not a diet.

:hug: you can do it!

dgramie
07-06-2014, 10:05 AM
My fbs was 106. I plan to do some post meal checks this wk. Is 2 hours post meal a good time? I know what my pre meal readings are.
I am hoping to discuss it withy dr on Tuesday.
I think I am still in shock at being prediabetic !!!

I woke up with a cold or allergies today. I'm all stuffy and congested.
I think we may go out for Mexican today after church. I will eat light and avoid chips. It's hard having to limit things for a couple of illnesses. Seems like what is good for one is bad for another. Lol

Wannabehealthy
07-06-2014, 10:21 AM
Dgramie, 2 hour testing is what they recommend, but some people spike at different times. If I am really curious about a food I will test at 1, 2, and 3 hr intervals. Some people check at 2 hr and are OK, but then by 3 hr they get a spike. This is usually done when learning. Once you know how your body reacts to different foods you don't have to test so often.

moonkissed
07-06-2014, 11:22 AM
Hello Gail :) Welcome to the party :hug: It is pretty scary at first when you find out but it gets better.

I am having a bad morning. My dog was attacked this morning on our daily walk. She is ok, it didn't break the skin. But I am a wreck. I feel guilty because I pushed us to walk farther then we normally do. because we have been walking a mile and I wanted to up it to 1.5. It happened so fast, and she is such a tiny thing it could have been so horrible, so we are so lucky. But it gave me a huge panic attack.

This morning my FBS was 145 and I ate right after testing it 3 hours later it was 168.... My breakfast was 38 carbs (oatmeal & granola), but I took that walk right after I ate. But my anxiety probably didn't help it.

pattygirl63
07-06-2014, 03:07 PM
Hi Gail and WELCOME!!! Can't add anything to the advice you've already gotten as it is all good and exactly what I would say. Just be patient as you test and learn as this is definitely a journey of learning experiences. You are in the right place and we are hear to encourage each other.

My fbs was up to 147 today and weight was down .2 lbs. Checked inches and down 1.75 inches. That is always so confusing to me. :dizzy: However, I know this is due to too many carbs. I really must work at learning my limit.

You know my doctor thought it weird when I told him a while back that I needed to start testing after foods again so I could learn what my body does and doesn't spike my fbs. Carol Sue, you testing after the oatmeal has made me think that maybe I should do that. I know that I do want to include "some" carbs in my diet, so maybe I should just start testing to see what can fit into my food plan and what can't.

I remember in the Intuitive Eating book, one woman was told by one of the nutritionist to write down what foods that she really liked and make those her guide for what to eat. I'm thinking you could do that with testing for controlling blood sugar. Actually, I got the impression that this is what my step-sister's hubby did when he was diagnosed with T-2 diabetes. He made a list of the foods that he ate and tested after he ate them. From this list, he learned what he could and could not eat. Example, he eats one Egg McMuffin on the way to work, but removes the top of the bun because his bs doesn't rise when eating Egg McMuffin unless he eats the whole bun. He keeps peanuts with him and on his desk at work to keep his bs constant. Knowing this and hearing what we are all doing, I think it just takes testing to learn "how" to keep bs under control.

I am going to start doing this tomorrow.

Wannabehealthy
07-06-2014, 03:56 PM
Moonkissed, I'm glad your little doggy is OK. He is probably scared now, too. This is why I no longer walk my dog. One time a dog up the street came running out after us, and one time we were walking our 2 dogs in the industrial park and a woman came along with a big dog and he was pulling her across the road trying to get at our dogs. We were at the point that we got in the car and came home. It wasn't enjoyable for the dogs or for us.

Did you test after you came back from the walk? I wonder if walking brought your glucose down. If I test fasting and I'm over 130 I will not eat carbs. Luckily I like eggs so I eat them mostly for breakfast. Maybe if you try eating some protein before you eat your oatmeal it will keep you from getting an increase in blood sugar. If you like eggs, add 1 egg and make a smaller portion of the oatmeal. This is just a suggestion. At 38 gm of carb you are within the ADA recommendation of 45 gm of carb per meal.

Trish, for years I ate and loved those McDonald's breakfast sandwiches, but since I have started making my scrambled eggs with all the veggies I no longer like to eat breakfast out. This morning DH wanted to go for breakfast and I ended up eating toast with it, which I normally wouldn't do, but it came with the meal. I could have left it, but I didn't. Bread is very hard for me to resist.

I wonder why your doctor thought it was weird to test after eating. I know on another board there was a type 1 guy who thought we were strange testing AFTER meals, but when you are on insulin you have to test BEFORE meals to know how much insulin you need.

love2b150
07-06-2014, 03:57 PM
Hi Gail :welcome: to the thread. I agree with Carol Sue and Shannon whole heartedly. Make sure you are keeping an accurate food journal. It will definitely be your best friend. Some of us use my fitness pal and some use Fitday. Which ever you choose I say make sure the carbs are correct on the foods. You will see how they are effecting your blood sugar. Also in listening to the ladies here, time is also key with the last thing you ate in the evening with your fasting blood sugar. Some have an evening snack and some don't. With the help of the people on this thread you will definitely find your way. And I was in denial for a long time also. I knew I was prediabetic since 2004 and did I watch it no, did I monitor it ever no. And here I am. Like Carol Sue my fbs was in the 200's most times (all of the time when I first started testing) and 300's sometimes too. But I have gotten it down into the low 100's with low carbing it.

Carol Sue I have noticed that crazy spike the few times I've tested at 3 hours. What is your input on the cause? Any research yet?

moonkissed, I'm sorry to hear that :hug: I would be a nervous wreck also. Glad you are both ok. Was it by another dog? Where was the owner?

Trish woohoo on the inches down, way to go :high:

fbs down a little this morning to 116

moonkissed
07-06-2014, 05:08 PM
love2b150 yes it was another dog. The owner couldn't control them. They were walking past and I moved over so they had plenty of room to get by and the owner tried pulling them away but their dog was too big for them and just pulled over and lunged at my Trixie biting at her. It happened so fast. Luckily it didn't break the skin.

It made me even angrier the owner just said sorry and left. They didn't even make sure my dog was ok :mad:

Wannabehealthy Yeah I usually walk closer to home but I had decided to walk farther today boy do I regret it. I never imagined that would happen.

Yeah that 168 was a bit after I got home from the walk. Which is why I thought it was weird. Like maybe 30 mins or so.

I will definitely try the egg. I usually am hurrying in the morning to get outside to walk before it gets too hot lol and the oatmeal is so quick.

love2b150
07-06-2014, 05:27 PM
moonkissed and Carol Sue, I'm sorry either of you or anyone would have to go through that. Glad every ones ok :hug:

pattygirl63
07-06-2014, 06:36 PM
Moonkissed, I'm glad your little doggy is OK. He is probably scared now, too. This is why I no longer walk my dog. One time a dog up the street came running out after us, and one time we were walking our 2 dogs in the industrial park and a woman came along with a big dog and he was pulling her across the road trying to get at our dogs. We were at the point that we got in the car and came home. It wasn't enjoyable for the dogs or for us.

Did you test after you came back from the walk? I wonder if walking brought your glucose down. If I test fasting and I'm over 130 I will not eat carbs. Luckily I like eggs so I eat them mostly for breakfast. Maybe if you try eating some protein before you eat your oatmeal it will keep you from getting an increase in blood sugar. If you like eggs, add 1 egg and make a smaller portion of the oatmeal. This is just a suggestion. At 38 gm of carb you are within the ADA recommendation of 45 gm of carb per meal.

Trish, for years I ate and loved those McDonald's breakfast sandwiches, but since I have started making my scrambled eggs with all the veggies I no longer like to eat breakfast out. This morning DH wanted to go for breakfast and I ended up eating toast with it, which I normally wouldn't do, but it came with the meal. I could have left it, but I didn't. Bread is very hard for me to resist.

I wonder why your doctor thought it was weird to test after eating. I know on another board there was a type 1 guy who thought we were strange testing AFTER meals, but when you are on insulin you have to test BEFORE meals to know how much insulin you need.

I used to make the egg mcmuffin at home my version, but I don't do that any more. Those are only eaten when we travel. However, we didn't eat them as much this time. Since my son is a truck driver he had told me the truck stops had cleaner restrooms than most places. We found that a lot of them also had Huddle House or similar restaurant and we were able to get healthier breakfasts for most of our trip. With the Huddle Houses and Cracker Barrels, we found it much easier to stay closer to OP. When home, I prefer not to eat out for breakfast any more so we rarely do that any more.

My doctor didn't really object to me testing after foods/meals. He just felt at this point that I should already know what I could and couldn't eat. However, I'm not sure that is true since it seems that there are some things I can eat now that I previously could not and other things I used to be able to eat that I don't seem to be able to. Also, I've added so much stuff over the years that I think that maybe I should check it again. Also, I'm thinking that all brands of products are not created equal.

Shannonsnail
07-07-2014, 12:52 AM
Quick flyby just to say I'm still alive. Having an 8 year old boy here has been interesting and kept me busy to say the least. Olivia has been trying to do all sorts of things to mimic him and gotten hurt quite a few times. My eating has been beyond horrific the last two days, especially tonight at my brother and sister-in-law's gender reveal party (it's a girl!). I have been, umm, seriously backed up for almost two weeks and I have been eating everything like crazy in an attempt to get my intestines moving. BS has been whacked out as a result. I've had minimal improvement with laxatives and increased water....getting a bit desperate, lol! Hopefully more time to post tomorrow.

Wannabehealthy
07-07-2014, 09:03 AM
Just finished my breakfast of scrambled eggs with mushrooms, lentils and sliced tomato. No oatmeal today because DH made the scrambled eggs and I think it's more than 1 egg. Now I'm having a glass of milk. I am going to go back to milk. When I was in the hospital when diagnosed they gave me milk at every meal. I continued that for a long time after I came home, but then I started listening to the people who said you should NEVER drink cows milk for various reasons. In 68 years it hasn't killed me and I like it and feel better when I drink it. I think it helps make me feel full longer. I might try adding a bit of whey protein to it once in a while.

I am also going to stop testing as often. I now test 4-5 times a day. If I am eating low carb, my blood sugar should be staying low. I think I'm getting too obsessed with it. When I first started testing and insurance would only pay for 2 strips per day my doctor told me "one day test AM and after dinner. Next day test pre meal and at bedtime." No need for a type 2 to test repeatedly the way a type 1 has to, except when they are testing to see what spikes and what doesn't. Just my opinion, not necessarily a recommendation.

I am going to cut back on my computer time because I'm having painful hands lately...maybe carpal tunnel or RA. Is it any wonder? My posts are like mini-novels. LOL But don't think you're getting rid of me. I am just going to try getting online one time in the AM instead of checking in throughout the day. I'm going to see if that helps.

Shannon, my beans keep me regular! That's all I'll say! LOL

Moonkissed, sometimes the walking doesn't drop your glucose right away...it might take a couple hours to notice it, but it's mostly an all over drop.....if you exercise every day your blood sugar will be lower all the time. Also, if you break it down into 2 walks per day that's even better.

About the egg. You can make a couple hard boiled eggs to have on hand, and if you have an egg poacher you can make a couple well done poached eggs to have on hand. They make little poachers than go in the microwave. Eat the egg first so the carbs don't spike. And you can make a scrambled egg in a cup in the microwave in several seconds.

Rennie, Somewhere I heard that if you eat a food that you suspect will spike you and you don't have the spike at 2 hr, try 3 hr. Some foods take a little longer to spike. Also, if you eat protein/fat with a carb is is said to slow the absorption of the carbs. It won't necessarily eliminate the spike, just delay it. That 3 hour test will tell you.

Trish, our McDonald's receipt always has a coupon on it for a BOGO Egg McMuffin or Quarter Pounder if you go online and do their short survey. You write down the survey code and the coupon is good for 30 days. I make sure I always take my receipt, and one time DH went to get us breakfast and he grabbed someone else's receipt that they left sitting on the counter. He's learning! LOL I think they would even accept the coupon if it was expired because they don't even look at it when I use it.

OK, I'll be back tomorrow. This is going to be a very hard habit to break.

moonkissed
07-07-2014, 12:02 PM
Wannabehealthy I like normal milk too. I have tried soy & almond and the taste is a bit off to me & they always seem too sweet. But I don't drink milk, I have alittle in my oatmeal and stuff like that.

I am sorry you have painful hands :( I have carpel tunnel and its sooo not fun.

Moonkissed, sometimes the walking doesn't drop your glucose right away...it might take a couple hours to notice it, but it's mostly an all over drop.....if you exercise every day your blood sugar will be lower all the time. Also, if you break it down into 2 walks per day that's even better.

About the egg. You can make a couple hard boiled eggs to have on hand, and if you have an egg poacher you can make a couple well done poached eggs to have on hand. They make little poachers than go in the microwave. Eat the egg first so the carbs don't spike. And you can make a scrambled egg in a cup in the microwave in several seconds.

Thanks :) You are so helpful! I will make an egg tomorrow for breakfast. That is smart idea so I can add in some veggies with breakfast too.

Shannonsnail I feel ya, I am going through a bit of the same thing right now. I think for me it might be the vitamin D I started taking. It started at the same time and I read it could be a side affect, since I started with such a high dosage right away. Meh. Hopefully it clears up for us both! Surely is not fun lol Yesterday was my weigh in and I didn't lose anything, (I didn't gain either) but I think that was why.

pattygirl63 I think its a good idea to check. I mean it surely doesn't do any harm? So why not if you feel it could be helpful.


I hope everyone has a great day. I got rained out so I changed my plans for the day. Instead I pulled out my Wii and did a workout. It was killer but fun.

Shannonsnail
07-07-2014, 12:17 PM
Moonkissed I am up FOUR pounds from last Monday! I was so close to crossing into the 170s and now am almost 186!! I refuse to change my signature ticker, lol!

love2b150
07-07-2014, 12:29 PM
Carol Sue sorry about your hands :hug: and thanks for the information :)

Shannon and moonkissed, hope you get some relief soon :crossed: Poor Olivia with mimicking her cousin, I'll bet she's enjoying the company for sure though. :)

Hi Trish :wave:

pattygirl63
07-07-2014, 03:00 PM
Well, I'm late posting today. My fbs was 145 this morning, but 3 hrs after breakfast was 121 so that is good news. Going out to eat with a friend to celebrate her birthday, but I picked Cracker Barrel because I can stay OP eating there. I'm doing Carbohydrate Addict's Diet again because I can control my bs spikes with that plan. Also, doing "my way", I can actually throw in some low carb days in there and maybe just use CAD as a planned off day where I eat low carb all day except for one carb meal. I lost weight doing that once before and not only lost weight but brought bs under control. I know CADers on a low carb site who do CAD and use MFP to keep up with the calories that they eat. I think that is a good idea as well. Since I'm losing weight slowly any way and getting the bs under control is the main goal right now, I think that would be a great way to do it.

Carol Sue Sorry about your carpal tunnel or RA. Actually, I've decided not to be on computer so much either. I will check in maybe even once a day, but I have decided to start making friends other than on pc and become more active.

I've been thinking a lot about the differences in my parents. My Mama was not a lazy person as she took care of the house, the lawn and us girls, but she never had to work. Daddy wouldn't allow it. I guess because he wanted everyone to know he took good care of her and us girls. He never allowed us girls to work until we grew up and he didn't have a choice. So Mama's activity was only what she wanted to do after doing what she had to for her family. My Daddy was ALWAYS busy/active. When Mama passed away, he just got busier. However, I think that is a big factor in him being as healthy as he is at 91. So I plan to take notice and follow suit.

I have a friend who wants me to join Eastern Stars with her. I've been putting her off, but have recently decided that I'm going to do it. We have a Bible Study group that I attended a few years ago, but quit when DH kids moved in. I just might go back although my friend has asked me to start a Bible Study in my home. So I'm praying about one of those. I think I just need to be MORE ACTIVE... or as some would say GET A LIFE, because I've just become to inactive in the past few yrs which I think has really contributed to my rise in bs.

Sorry, just thinking out loud. I love you guys because we can share so much of what we are feeling with each other.

Y'all have a great day and I'll check with y'all again tomorrow.

moonkissed
07-08-2014, 06:59 AM
Last night after dinner/before bed my BS was 132 which is one point higher then the lowest its been.

This morning my BS was 122!! The lowest its been yet. I am so happy. Maybe the meds are now clearing up my system.

I know that is still high but I am just so happy. Going to keep watching and see if it stays lower or what though. It could just be a fluke lol

Wannabehealthy
07-08-2014, 12:25 PM
Good morning! Yesterday after I posted, we went car shopping and got a new Malibu. We have wanted a new car for a while now but couldn't agree on what to get. We finally saw something we both liked.

This morning I had my doctor's appointment to review my recent labs. My A1c went from 9.7 to 6.6 and my doctor was so happy he asked me how I did it. I told him I changed my diet. My lipids were also good except for my triglycerides. The doctor said most diabetics have high triglycerides. I will have to research that and see what I can do to lower them.

I asked the doctor about my hands and he said without making a formal diagnosis he thinks it could be psoriatic arthritis because my psoriasis is flaring so badly right now. The meds they give you for that are very expensive and also hard on the body with a lot of serious side effects, so he said I could just continue to take the Tylenol Arthritis that I have been taking and see how it goes. So I don't think typing on the computer has anything to do with it. I love this forum and really love you guys, so I can't see me leaving here. You're stuck with me! LOL

Moonkissed, I think the 122 this morning was a sign that you are getting things under control. It doesn't usually drop suddenly, but slowly over time as you make lifestyle changes. For a long time, even with a good A1c, my fasting was in the 120s. My doctor never cared as long as my A1c was good. Keep up the good work!

Shannon, I hope things are going well for Olivia and her cousin. It's good for her to have another child around as long as she doesn't pick up any bad habits from him. LOL

Trish, you have a lot of activities lined up for you to try out. That's good. I am not a joiner and don't usually get involved with things like that. I will just need to find ways to get my activity level up on my own.


I came home from the doctor feeling such a sense of relief that my labs were good. I hadn't eaten anything before I went and I came home and had a mini carb binge. Just a stress reliever. It won't last. I will be back on plan by dinner time. I have a roast defrosting and will cook lots of veggies with it. There's storms predicted so we will be sticking around home most of the day. Don't want to take that new car out in a storm! LOL

pattygirl63
07-08-2014, 02:08 PM
Woke up very early so got up and went to Walmart to shop for wedding gift and card for the wedding Saturday. I guess we should have gone there yesterday. I got Rubbermaid glass containers with lids. I've been wanting a set of those and they are practical gift for someone starting their 1st home together. I hope they will like them.

I also bought a nice ivy and stuff to transfer into 2 other pots. I haven't had live plants in years, but since I saw that show on tv about how they make our home healthier to live in, I want to make it a new hobby for indoor plants. I also want to research having an indoor herb garden. Potting soil has really changed since I did this last. Love that Miracle-Grow has different potting soil now. I will also have to get my plant books out and decide on what I want to grow.

Carol Sue Congratulations on the new car. So glad you and Hubby found what you both agree on. And congratulations on the good lab results. I do enjoy getting to know new people, although I don't always make "close" friends easily. Not sure why except I have found over the years that I am usually a more loyal friend to someone than they are to me. However I have become kind of a couch potato since I married DH and I need to change that. I want to find some new hobbies and just experiment to see what I want to do so I can get more active. My present friend wants to take a cake decorating class in the fall at Michael's. I'm not sure that is a good idea for a low carber, but may try it with her.

Checked fbs before breakfast and it 138. Still to high as I did eat more carbs yesterday. Didn't start the CAD or low carb yesterday.

Checked bs 2 hrs after breakfast and it was 151. Will check it again at 3 hr mark. I guess the 40 calorie bread isn't going to be something I can eat. However, I didn't eat any greens this morning. I'm wondering if that really would have made a big difference. I may try that tomorrow with the bread and just see since I am testing to see what causes rises. I'm not sure how much of a spike is normal after eating. I guess I will get back on low carb the rest of the day and let today's breakfast be a CAD carby meal. We'll see. After all, I am experimenting with the testings this week.

Running late so I will close and catch y'all again later.

Have a great day.

Wannabehealthy
07-08-2014, 02:33 PM
Trish, there are a lot of different ideas on what postprandial readings should be. Here is what the ADA says, up to 180. I have heard others say that anything over 140 causes damage. Mine are often over 140. If you notice, the ADA also recommends an A1c of 7% when other say to aim lower. My doctor is happy with 7%. I think how fast your glucose goes back down is also significant.

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/checking-your-blood-glucose.html

I am the same as you with friends. I have 1 close friend since high school. The rest I consider acquaintences. I tend to be more of a loner. It's hard to find loyal friends.

pattygirl63
07-08-2014, 02:48 PM
Carol Sue Thanks. I probably have a chart some where for both what the ADA and what a set of doctors that recommend lower say. I need to look that stuff up. My 3 hr check was 126 so I guess it isn't so bad.

Shannonsnail
07-08-2014, 03:15 PM
Good afternoon! I have not posted much lately so This will be long.

Our houseguest left a few hours ago. Olivia enjoyed having her cousin here but definitely picked up his bad habits. Leaving doors open, refusing to wear shoes outside, doing things without asking, not using manners.....sigh. Oh well, nothing major that can't be fixed, fortunately. I am super tired though. We've had 4 late nights with early mornings (til today, they finally slept longer!), my house is a total mess and I'm out of some grocery staples. Debating on whether to try to throw something together for dinner or doing our Tuesday standby plan of going to Moe's (kids eat free on Tues). Right now I'm taking a break and doing nothing. I missed breakfast today with some chaos so I'm drinking my coffee now, lol.

Olivia started swim lessons today. This will be the fourth time she has done them. The first two times parents were in the water, the last two they have not been. Last summer she was 3 and I chalked her fear of her instructor up to age but now, a year later, it's like deja vu. She LOVES water, is a good swimmer with a float and will play in the shallow end of pool without me but as soon as I take her to a lesson where she has to be in the pool with a male teacher, she flips out. She is terrified, screams the entire time. Last year the aquatics director (female) got in with her but this year (and I agree) she refuses and is forcing Olivia to go with her instructor. She had to literally rip her off me (my shorts almost came off me) and force her into the water. She screamed the whole time. It is heartbreaking. She told me she is afraid he will hurt her so now I'm freaking out wondering if some male has hurt her.

My FBS has been running around 114 the last several days. I have not been 100% on plan since Friday I think. I am still backed up and have tried several varieties of laxatives. I'm starting to wonder if something is wrong. I will give it a little more time. My weight is down 2 lbs since yesterday so if it keeps going down I will stop worrying. I read someone on 3FC saying they were constipated and it ended up being a fibroid! I was totally happy to have our cousin here but am glad he has gone bc I've had alot of junk food in the house we don't normally have and I have been eating it :(

Ugh....houses. So, my husband is pulling the same crud he pulled last year that made me just throw in the towel. One day he is gung ho to move closer to family and then a week later "I don't know, it's a small town, there are no greenways (or insert XYZ here)". I'm so sick of limbo. We need a bigger house. I am pulling my hair out in our current home with him working here, having nowhere to secure my things, having his hobby stuff everywhere, nowhere for toys to live, and NOT ENOUGH countertops!!! If he doesn't want to move away from Raleigh, fine, just decide one way or the other. I have looked extensively and we can find something here that will be bigger....it just may be in a different area with a yard just as small. Personally, I want to move to the smaller town. Believe me, I am WELL AWARE of the many opportunities we will be leaving. I am choosing to want to move though because I think these younger years are the best time for Olivia to be closer to family. It will not be much longer before my mom and my aunts and uncles are too old to want to spend time with her. And right now is the time to live closer to my brother. They have a goal to move to the mountains in 5-8 yrs so now is the time to be near them. Now is also the time my husband can work from anywhere, we may not have that luxary down the road. I found a house that I think has a lot of potential, almost an acre of land too. My husband is complaining about lack of greenways for bike riding but the neighborhood itself has plenty of roads for that. I think he is spoiled living where we do. I grew up in the country riding my bike in the neighborhood and
I turned out fine, lol. Argh! Sorry for the rant. And dang it, my agent just emailed me...that house just went under contract too.

Wannabehealthy
07-08-2014, 06:00 PM
Shannon, you really have my sympathy with the house hunting. And it's so hard when the two of you can't agree. We went through that with car hunting, but house hunting is so much more serious. I hope you are able to work things out.

I'm not so sure about weight loss with constipation. That could be a problem, too. I rarely lose when I'm constipated. Be careful. I hope it's nothing but normal issues.

Is there somewhere else you can take Olivia for her swimming lessons? Her behavior upsets me. I don't think I would force her to go with her screaming like that. It's not that she's afraid of water, she's afraid of that man for some reason. I hate the thought he or some other man did something to her, and I'm sure you do too.

Several weeks ago I had that echocardiogram done and I was getting ready to call them because they had not given me any results. But the DR might have been on vacation and they called today to say all is well. There is no change from last time, which is what they have said the past several times. My heart is pumping good and my ejection fraction is good, so maybe my bad valves won't get any worse. I am very excited that I have had so much good health news today. I was getting concerned that all my healthy eating was going to be for nothing, but I'm sure it took part in all my good results. Now all I have to do is tweak it to get some weight loss. Watch portions and eating between meals or when I'm not hungry. Back to exercising regularly too, which is going to be a major change.

moonkissed
07-08-2014, 07:18 PM
Well two hours after breakfast I tested and my BS was 168...yeah :( That seemed to go up way too high. I think I just cant eat that oatmeal. Maybe I will just stick with eggs. Maybe I will try some homemade oatmeal in the future. Too bad that oatmeal is heavenly lol

I went to the store and walked a bunch today. I also bought myself some 5lb hand weights. Excited to get to use them, I really wanna focus on strength training.

Carol Sue grats on the new car! How exciting! Yay on the A1C drop! :carrot: That is great news.

Shannonsnail I am really sorry you are having so much trouble with houses. That isnt fun at all :(

Wannabehealthy
07-09-2014, 08:16 AM
Moonkissed, I don't think 168 after a meal is all that bad. Just make sure it comes back down before you eat the next meal. Did you eat an egg (some protein) before you ate the oatmeal? What are you using to sweeten it? And how much oatmeal are you eating? Right now I'm using the little packets of instant oatmeal. They make some other packets that are double the quantity, too. I just checked mine and they are 28 gm packets. Make sure you don't have the larger ones. Since you like the oatmeal so much and it is healthy for you, I would work on tweaking it so I could eat it.

Strength training is good, too. I used to lift small hand weights while I was walking until it started to embarass DH. LOL He said everyone was staring. So what? I don't care! He is too worried about what other people think. It's not like I was streaking through the park naked. Now that would be something to stare at.

Wannabehealthy
07-09-2014, 10:25 AM
Shannon, Shannon, Shannon. I just got some very bad news. I was researching something else and started reading about folic acid. One of the side effects of too much folic acid is it aggravates psoriasis. Guess what is very high in folic acid. Kale and other leafy green vegetables, which I have been eating in very large amounts in the past 6-8 months, right around the time my psoriasis started this bad flare. I am so disappointed. I have grown to love these veggies so much and felt as though I was doing something very healthy, and still feel that they are healthy, but I am going to have to either eliminate them or cut back to just adding small amounts in my scrambled eggs, or mixed in with other foods. I knew something caused this psoriasis flare, and in a way I'm glad that I fell upon this information. It makes so much sense....the flare started shortly after I started eating the huge portions of kale every day! I am flabbergasted. The moral of the story is, too much of a good thing can be bad.

moonkissed
07-09-2014, 11:29 AM
FBS was 121 this morning! Looks like something is working :)

Carol Sue I did eat the egg before the oatmeal. The oatmeal was a prepackaged thing that had almonds & granola with it. I add 1% milk and microwave it up. It is really delicious lol But I think I will make my own from now on. I can probably copy it and have it be healthier. Idk what size packet it is but it is a tiny portion.

Usually when I would eat oatmeal I would make it myself and just eat it with fruit and/or nuts. Nothing else to sweeten it.

I am glad you figured out what was causing the psoriasis flare but idk how you can eat kale lol. I am not a fan!

Wannabehealthy
07-09-2014, 12:08 PM
Moonkissed, you are showing improvements by leaps and bounds! I am proud of you. I knew you could do it.

Look at the nutritional info for your oatmeal. Mine has 19gm of carb and 3gm of fiber, 0 sugar. I use artificial sweetener unless I add some Fiber One cereal to it which is sweet enough that I don't need additional sweetener. I'm going to start adding some cinnamon also, because that is said to help lower blood sugar.

I am very big on vegetables but I never ate kale or other greens until this year when I head that kale was such a powerhouse food. I love it steamed and wilted down, like spinach. Luckily I am almost out of kale. I went to Aldis today and had spinach and romaine on my list, but I scratched them off. I have learned the importance of the word "moderation." I was eating huge plates of the stuff for lunch....dinner size plates, every single day! I decided for the rest of the summer my lunch will consist of salads of iceberg lettuce (no folic acid) and other vegetables, like cucumbers, shredded carrots, onions, tomatoes, all which are healthy foods. I also bought some zucchini to use with my Vegetti. I will stay far away from the folic acid and see if my psoriasis starts to clear up. All in all, I am glad I learned this and hope it is the answer to clearing my psoriasis. Not life threatening, but a real pain in the butt!!

I just read up on eggs, which also contain folate. 95% of the folate is in the yolk, and when I eat eggs, more than half of them are Egg Beaters, which are only the whites. So I think I am ok there. I think anything I ate before I started on the Kale and greens will be ok. My psoriasis flares were nowhere near as bad as this one has been and didn't last as long.

Shannonsnail
07-09-2014, 12:52 PM
Shannon, Shannon, Shannon. I just got some very bad news. I was researching something else and started reading about folic acid. One of the side effects of too much folic acid is it aggravates psoriasis. Guess what is very high in folic acid. Kale and other leafy green vegetables, which I have been eating in very large amounts in the past 6-8 months, right around the time my psoriasis started this bad flare. I am so disappointed. I have grown to love these veggies so much and felt as though I was doing something very healthy, and still feel that they are healthy, but I am going to have to either eliminate them or cut back to just adding small amounts in my scrambled eggs, or mixed in with other foods. I knew something caused this psoriasis flare, and in a way I'm glad that I fell upon this information. It makes so much sense....the flare started shortly after I started eating the huge portions of kale every day! I am flabbergasted. The moral of the story is, too much of a good thing can be bad.

Oh no! That is terrible news!! Well, if you eliminate and it doesn't help, you'll know it wasn't that but sounds like the two are probably related :-(

dgramie
07-09-2014, 01:59 PM
I got my stitches out yesterday. So nice to have them out but still have to wear a bra at night for another week and no lifting. Sure makes my babysitting harder.
Hubby got a great report at his dr. His A1C was down from 7.7 to 6.6. He has no protein in his urine. He has battled protein for awhe now.
So I guess what we are doing is working!
I know the daily exercise is really helping us both.

pattygirl63
07-09-2014, 03:20 PM
moonkissed - I've never used the packets of oatmeal, however, I did learn that I can cook the rolled oats and do fine as long as I eat 1/2 a serving. Haven't tried it lately because I eat eggs. I eat oatmeal during cold weather.

Carol Sue Glad you found out what was causing the psoriases. Maybe when things clear up, you can eat small portions of greens but not as often. Time will tell.

Shannon So sorry about the problems finding the right house. Perhaps you just haven't found the right one yet. I know it is frustrating. I pray you find the place you are supposed to be soon.

FSB was 140. The only changes to my breakfast this morning was regular bacon in place of Canadian bacon and I added chopped spinach. 3 hrs later my bs reading was 114. So I was able to keep the 40 calorie toast just by adding the spinach. I'm very pleased with that.

I was reading some posts by some successful Intuitive Eaters yesterday here on a 3fc thread and I identified so much with some of the things they said. It has caused me to re-think IE. I ate Intuitively while on vacation and came home with a little over a 2 lb weight loss. Since I've been home, I have really struggled trying to get back on a low carb or low calorie diet and I gained 3 lbs and have really fought to lose 1 lb and hold on to it. I think the experience speaks for itself for me. Since I grew up a "natural" Intuitive Eater before they had a name for it, that IE is the way that I need to be eating. I have decided that since that is "normal/natural to me that I am going to learn how to develop that way of eating into my life again.

I don't think I will be eating loads of junk foods because I never ate them when this was my normal way of eating. I always did like eating healthy foods, I just didn't always want a "whole" meal to eat them so many times they were just a snack food not a meal food. The nice thing about IE is I don't "have" to eat 3 meals unless I'm hungry and I don't "have" to think about food all the time.

dgrame, Rennie and others :wave: Hi

Have a great day!!!

MrsTryingAgain
07-09-2014, 03:48 PM
Only have a few moments, but I thought I'd pop in. Thanks for the welcome & ideas. I decided that I'm going to check with my local hospital & see if there are any classes/groups that might help me adjust. Also if there is any guidance as to eating better/exercising more, so I can control my diabetes.
YEAH! I can conquer this! I'm not going to be afraid, I'm going to be strong. Look this disease right in the face, do what needs be done & kick it's butt! I've already started looking not only at the hospital, but the local university.
I am already starting to feel better. It's funny, I guess my diabetes was effecting me without me knowing it.
My doctor really didn't go over much with me when he gave me my diagnosis. I guess he assumed that I KNEW everything since my hubby is diabetic. Except my hubby has been "stagnant" in his diabetes for about 3 years now. Also he has more health issues like a heart condition. H is on like 12-14 medications & a vitamin/mineral regiment. All I have is my HBP medication & Metformin with vitamins/minerals. I will figure this out & if I still have questions, I'm going to make an apt!!
Gotta run! Thanks for all the encouragement! Appreciate it!
BE HEALTHY! BE STRONG! WE CAN DO THIS!

Shannonsnail
07-09-2014, 11:51 PM
Shannon, you really have my sympathy with the house hunting. And it's so hard when the two of you can't agree. We went through that with car hunting, but house hunting is so much more serious. I hope you are able to work things out.

I'm not so sure about weight loss with constipation. That could be a problem, too. I rarely lose when I'm constipated. Be careful. I hope it's nothing but normal issues.

Is there somewhere else you can take Olivia for her swimming lessons? Her behavior upsets me. I don't think I would force her to go with her screaming like that. It's not that she's afraid of water, she's afraid of that man for some reason. I hate the thought he or some other man did something to her, and I'm sure you do too.

Several weeks ago I had that echocardiogram done and I was getting ready to call them because they had not given me any results. But the DR might have been on vacation and they called today to say all is well. There is no change from last time, which is what they have said the past several times. My heart is pumping good and my ejection fraction is good, so maybe my bad valves won't get any worse. I am very excited that I have had so much good health news today. I was getting concerned that all my healthy eating was going to be for nothing, but I'm sure it took part in all my good results. Now all I have to do is tweak it to get some weight loss. Watch portions and eating between meals or when I'm not hungry. Back to exercising regularly too, which is going to be a major change.

Carol Sue, my post about Olivia's swimming lesson might have been confusing. Last year she reacted the same way but it was a different instructor, not the same as this year. I don't think either of them have done anything to her as the lessons are at the YMCA and very public. Her behavior worries me a little but she has rarely ever spent any time with any males alone so the likelihood of her fears being based in reality should be small. She just has some kind of (irrational?) fear of male swimming instructors. I'm specifying swimming bc she had a male instructor for soccer 1.5 yrs ago and did fine then. The aquatics director says she has seen this many times over the years and has had the best success by forcing them to endure. The instructors last year and this year both told me they have seen this same reaction before as well. Last year she was ok by the last couple of classes (there are 6 over a 3 week period) so I just hope she gets "ok" this year sooner. Another mom told me her son also had an irrational fear of swim lessons and is fine now, a few years later. It's just really hard. We go again on Thursday....God help me.

Great news at all your docs lately!!

moonkissed
07-10-2014, 06:17 AM
My FBS was 128 this morning. Last night before dinner it was only 118! So I am feeling positive. I am probably going to see my doctor today, earlier then expected but my therapist thinks I should so I can up some other meds I am on. So I am happy that I have some lower numbers to show the doctor.


Trish I so love the idea of IE. I think that is my goal someday to be able to do that. Right now my body/mentality is so screwed up no way I could. I am still in the whole bored=hungry mind frame and I lost my you are full switch lol I am so glad it can work for you!

Shannon my niece is far more shy around men then women. Men can be big and scary lol Plus I think for most younger kids they meet far more women then men overall. But I would probably worry too its so scary to even imagine.

Wannabehealthy
07-10-2014, 10:18 AM
Dgramie, I'm glad you are feeling better. The no lifting is hard when you're dealing with kids. My step son and dil both had surgery when my grandson was 1. That was a fiasco. Everyone was taking turns going to their house to help out during that time, including a neighbor. They got through it.

Shannon, I'm glad you feel secure that no one is harming Olivia. Things like that scare me. My gs had issues with swimming when he was 4, but when he was 5 it all clicked and now he is a pretty good swimmer. It didn't have anything to do with an instructor, it was the water itself that scared him.

I think the Folic Acid was what stressed my psoriasis because they both started around the same time. The only other thing that occurred around that time was the addition of Amaryl, and that is not indicated as a problem. Already, my psoriasis is not as itchy, burnie.

Try Again, I think you are on the right track. The more you learn about this disease they better off you are. Somehow it makes you feel less afraid of it when you are informed.

Trish, I also think I did IE most of my life. It wasn't until I got into too many carbs that I started to binge on them. No carbs, no binge. I find the group on the IE thread to be a little cliquie. It might be because I seem to clash with one of the posters, even when we post together on other threads. I tend to stay away from her because I doubt if we will ever agree. She is entitled to her opinion, but so am I.

Also, I think I am trending toward CAD. I am pretty set with carb free breakfast and lunch. Occasionally I will have my high fiber toast with eggs, but not often. If I eat carbs at all it is at dinner, such as the rice that was in the stuffed peppers last night. We only had a little bit of rice upstairs and neither of us felt like going down to the storage area to get a new box, so DH handed me the brown rice and said "Use this." I was shocked. I mixed it in with the small amount of white rice I had left. He couldn't tell the difference, so I guess I can use brown rice for things when I want to and he will be OK with it. My results at the doctor really impressed him so he just might change his eating. He has been cutting back after the weight he lost when he had the shingles, and he is continuing to lose. This morning I enjoyed looking at him because his waist of his jeans is now going around his waist instead of under his belly. He looks very good. He loses weight so easily. Cutting back on food doesn't seem to bother him at all.

Today I'm working on some de-cluttering around here.

pattygirl63
07-10-2014, 11:04 AM
Carol Sue and Moonkissed I have been afraid of trusting myself to do IE, but since I ate sensibly on my trip it made me realize that if I really gave it a chance that it could work for me again because it is so "normal" to me. However, since I have been in the habit of eating "normal" according to most people which is too many carbs for me, I will have to work at breaking that habit. I think it starts with throwing out some of the "diet" ideas/lies I've been made to believe like you must eat some of this or you can't eat that and you absolutely must eat 3 meals and/or 3 snacks a day. Well, I never did that when I was thin and I was healthy so obviously that isn't true.

I have to admit that the past few weeks since I've been back home that I obviously gone overboard on the carbs. I say that because I have a tendency to get a rash when I eat more carbs than my body will tolerate. Also the weight goes up really easy. I suddenly realized that IE fits anywhere even with low carb eating. I noticed some of the IE-ers even use some sort of tracking even of pts, calories, carbs etc.

I know I am never going to be a total Atkins type of low carber. I wish I could because there are a lot of meats that I absolutely love like avocados, baby back ribs etc that are no problem eating on Atkins. However, also like you Carol Sue, I know there are times I want toast with my eggs or a baked or nuked (not often) potato with steak which I think that is where CAD could fit into my plan. I always go back to Dana Carpander's book where she ate low carb similar to Atkins about 90% of the time but allowed herself carbs which she chose ahead of time for special occasions like an anniversary or birthday. This is why I think using CAD on some days and more of an Atkins way of eating most days which I believe can be done intuitively could very well work. I've decided to give it a try and see. I figure if I'm not going to lose weight very fast any way then why not create a plan of my own that will make that part of my life more doable.

Carol Sue I think I know who you are talking about. I have run into her before on some other threads and she is extremely critical of everything everyone does. I'm not sure what her problem is, but I just don't talk to her any more. In fact, I usually won't even post on threads where I see her because I'm not interested in what she thinks about what I do. After all, we know that "One Size"doesn't fit all even in dieting so what ever her problem is, I'm not allowing it to become mine. That's why I mostly lurk on other threads.

This morning, I got up and decided that I used to be a routine/organized personality. I need to use those traits in developing and creating my own plan. Today is going to be a low carb day not CAD. Intuitively I just wanted an Atkins shake for breakfast with my coffee. I've got to get a handle on this nighttime eating that I've fallen into lately so, I've got steak out for our main meal and have a couple of chicken legs thawing and I since I didn't have my eggs this morning, I plan an omelet or scrambled eggs later tonight. I really need a few days of more Atkins eating to get a handle on getting rid of the high carbs I've been eating lately.

I wonder, am I ever going to get this down to a science or am I ALWAYS going to be tweaking. FBS was 135 this morning which was a miracle to me with the way I ate yesterday especially last night. Weight was up to 224. I HAVE to get my head on straight and get this going the other direction. I was doing so good BEFORE my trip. I know I can do it again.

Sorry, I guess I did a lot of ranting and thinking out loud.

Love you Chickies. Y'all are the best. I think we have the BEST thread on here.

Have a great day.

Wannabehealthy
07-10-2014, 04:32 PM
Trish, you don't really have to do any one plan. It can just be your own plan, taking the best of the best. I, too, am getting away from the 3 meals a day. This morning I wasn't hungry and then we went shopping and didn't come back until 1:00PM. I ate my eggs then. No lunch. DH wants to go out for dinner, so we will go around 4:30. I want to start letting myself get hungry. I want to experience what it feels like. For so long I have eaten by the clock and most of the time never actually felt hunger pains. I will not let myself get to the point of starving, because that's when you overeat. But having my stomach growl and feel a little bit hungry is not going to kill me. When I had my bowel surgery I was not allowed any food for 6 days. The first 2 days where bad, but then my body accepted that I wasn't getting any food. I was in the hospital under medical supervision and I was on intervenous saline for hydration. I was not even allowed to take my pills by mouth or even swallow water. I survived, and lost 15 lbs. Not that I would do that now, but I want to be able to feel those hunger pangs and know that I am truly eating because I need nutrients. Keep on tweaking! When you lose some weight, you know you did something right.

MrsTryingAgain
07-10-2014, 05:25 PM
Decent day so far. Still doing tons of research. I'm trying to figure out which way to go. I've got e-mails out & have left messages with people in the area of nutrition for diabetics. Also lot of online research. Sometimes I feel like my head is about to pop!!! :o
I do have a question for everyone. What exercise has helped you most? I'm looking for something a little more than walking. I love my walks, but I don't know if it's doing "enough".
Please keep in mind these few factors: not a lot money to spend, nearly 50, 100+ lbs overweight & do battle sciatica at times. So whatcha got for me? Video suggestions are welcomed! Looked at all the ones here at the library & overwhelmed. Thanks!!!

pattygirl63
07-10-2014, 10:27 PM
Carol Sue Eleven and a half years ago when I married DH, I read about people who ate only when hungry like IE, but we didn't have that term back then or at least I had never heard of it. I read about people who would not eat until they felt hunger pangs and when they ate they ALWAYS left one bite of food on their plate. So I decided to make those 2 rules mine. I lost weight easily without any problems. I didn't lose fast, but I did lose without any real problems. I never really worried about what I ate good/bad foods but I never seemed to want much unhealthy or junk foods. DH always kept a large bag of chips nearby in the tv room to eat a few bites when he wanted them. He would take his Mother to the doctor and come back with a hamburger just for him because I just didn't want any of those things to eat. I don't know when those things started creeping back into my diet. However, I really was never ON a diet back then. I was just eating when hungry. I think things changed when I decided to join some "diet" groups on line. Strange. Isn't it?

I've had a fairly good day today. I had the Atkins shake this morning and then later had a tomato, then nothing else until around 2 or 2:30. I had a couple of chicken legs and asperagus and raw veggies around 6:30. I have been wanting pop corn for a few days now and decided to go ahead and have some for a snack tonight. I know when I keep wanting it like have lately that I had better go ahead and satisfy that hunger so that I won't end up going on a binge eating something I really don't want.

MrsTryingAgain I'm sorry but I'm not much help on exercise right now. I know I have to get back to it, but I'm in a slump on that right now. I've used tapes over the years and my stationary bike is really good for my knees when I do it, but I just haven't been able to get myself back to it since returning from my trip. Right now I do some exercises they showed DH to do after his neck surgery. They seem to help my back. I do those before I get out of bed each morning. My other exercise is house work each day. I really have to work at getting back on my bike. Sorry, I'm not helpful.

Well, I'm getting tired so I will close off for tonight and catch y'all tomorrow.

moonkissed
07-10-2014, 11:32 PM
What is CAD?

Shannonsnail
07-11-2014, 12:08 AM
What is CAD?

Carbohydrate Addicts Diet....if I'm not mistaken. I read it a long time ago and think it advocated eating low carb except for one hour out of the day. Is that right ladies?

pattygirl63
07-11-2014, 01:00 AM
Yes Shannon that is right.

The the way CAD works is that you are to eat low carb meals and sometime snacks if needed which they do not call low carb but it is called Craving-reducing meals/snacks. There is a list of the foods you eat during these meals/snacks. Then during the one hour meal called a Reward Meal which consists of your carby foods. However, ideally it consists of at least a 2 cup salad with dressing of your choice and then you visualize your plate divided into thirds and eat 1/3 protein, 1/3 veggie and 1/3 starches. You don't have to count calories or carbs, but if you want seconds you still have to use the 1/3 division of foods. I used this years ago when I would low carb most of the time, but use this when eating out. Some of the people that I've seen who make this work for them have done it by counting calories any way.

The theory is that the Craving-reducing foods (low carb) meals/snacks do not raise blood sugar. However when you eat carby foods during the Reward Meal your blood sugar spikes as soon as you start eating carbs. Supposedly you will get only 1 spike during the 1 hour of a carby meal before you will have another spike in blood sugar. Thus the reason for 1 carby meal called the Reward Meal a day which means you control your blood sugar spikes yourself. I've never tested blood to see if this really works or not. Perhaps I should just make it a project to see if it is true.

Wannabehealthy
07-11-2014, 09:03 AM
Way back when I was never able to stick to CAD because I liked toast with my eggs at breakfast, but then when I made dinner, I had to make potatoes for DH and I would end up eating them. This was all before I was diagnosed with diabetes. Now I have learned to enjoy my eggs with mushrooms, and other veggies mixed in, and no bread. The only time there are any carbs in my diet is at dinner, and sometimes I indulge and sometimes I don't. So I consider myself to be on CAD somewhat. I think the diet was originally for people who needed low carb, but did not want to give up the carbs altogether. The reward meal is supposed to be the same meal every day, but I heard that they changed that rule recently.

Mrs Trying Again, the best exercise is one that you will stick to consistantly. I like walking on my treadmill and using my elliptical. I have heard that although the higher intensity is best for weight loss, it stresses the body, and stress can raise your blood sugar. So, low to moderate is best for glucose control. I can't prove that, but I have heard that. If you want to use exercise videos, Walk Away The Pounds is good. You can control your intensity and the steps are simple and easy to follow. Personally, I find it a little boring, but it's a nice switch from plain walking. More like walking in place. I also have some old Richard Simmons videos. He tends to be a little corny, but I find that he lifts my spirits and makes me want to do it. Also, easy to follow. I don't know if they still sell them, but I see them at flea markets and thrift stores.

moonkissed
07-11-2014, 09:22 AM
I had my BS as 117 before bed and FBS this morning of 113! Go me! :carrot:

I had a very bad binge yesterday for lunch though :( It was so bad I actually made myself sick & throwing up. Which has never happened before. Maybe because I have been eating so much less/better lately that the binge was a bit of a shock to the system. idk. But i can't change what happened only learn from it and move on. I am hopefully seeing my doctor today about upping my happy meds lol so hopefully that will help me balance my mood and stay binge free.

Thanks for the explanation of CAD. I always thought it was key to balance the carbs? Like we are supposed to eat the same amount for every meal. Not that I do that lol

I love carbs. I could never go really low carb. It is a struggle for me to not just eat nothing but carbs lol I am a huge pasta/bread addict. And they trigger binges so it is a love/hate relationship. I try to just be moderate with them. Like I still have a slice of toast with my eggs but not 2. Or I eat just one portion of pasta instead of all of the pasta lol

Wannabehealthy
07-11-2014, 09:43 AM
Moonkissed, if you can eat a balanced diet and still control your blood sugar and weight, go for it! That is what the ADA and diabetes educators tell us to strive for, but everyone is different, and what works for one does not necessarily work for all. You will see us make that statement here repeatedly. Are you taking a log of your blood sugar readings to the doctors? I think he will be very pleased! You are doing well.

I love carbs too, but I cannot eat them at every meal unless it is a very small amount. Bread is like poison for me. I could eat a loaf of bread at one sitting and not blink an eye. So I do best by avoiding it altogether. I'm pretty much the same with pasta, but pasta does not spike my BS the way bread does. My husband always tell me I did not cook enough pasta, but there is always a lot leftover and guess who eats it? LOL I tested lasagne and a reasonable portion does not spike my BS. I think that's because of all the meat and cheese. The protein and fat offsets the carbs in the noodles. Some people cannot cut way back on carbs because it causes them to feel deprived and they end up binging on them. If you can do moderate, good for you!

Shannonsnail
07-11-2014, 11:25 AM
Moonkissed good job on the FBS! I think ours are inversely related. Yours is going down and mine is going up! I second what Carol Sue said, if you can eat the carbs and keep your BS down, go for it! I have an eating disorder that responds horrifically to tracking calories so eating low carb with no tracking is the only method of losing weight that has worked for me and it lowered my BS. Unfortunately now when I do eat carbs my BS spikes worse than before. I'm not sure if it's bc I've become more sensitive to carbs or bc my insulin resistence worsened somehow as I was losing weight and eating less carbs. I still have about 40 lbs to lose so we'll see.

Ladies, ya'll were talking about arthritis, etc flares, well, I do not have any official diagnosis but I 've had a long history of repetitive use pain in my joints. Elbows, wrists and fingers being the main ones. Right now I'm having alot of pain in my index finger from using my iPad. I need to force myself to post from my laptop (or my bluetooth keypboard that hooks up to my iPad) but I keep getting out my iPad since it's so convenient. Probably need to do what ya'll were talking about and post once a day and do it from my laptop!

We are going to see 2 houses later today, one repeat from my last trip and another we were supposed to see last time but missed somehow. I'm nervous about liking a house again or rather settling my mind on it being a good choice and again ending up with it going under contract. It's just really emotional for me. I don't like being in limbo when I want to be settled by Sept. I want Olivia to be able to start preschool in Sept and not have to change schools after that. She doesn't transition well. I am happy to share that after initially being scared and crying at her swim lesson yesterday, she did really well and was fine for about 75% of the lesson. She was even smiling by the end. I'm hoping she is past her fear now.

I finally had a 100% on plan day yesterday after almost a week off plan. My FBS was 122 today. Not good. I miss the days where it was 105 every day. Oh well, maybe in a few more weeks it will lower again. My weight is about a pound over my previous low so hopefully the scale is getting with the program too. I need to start taking something regularly to help with constipation so that does not happen again. It was very uncomfortable. Ladies in my low carb group suggested several things so I need to decide the best thing I will stick to. I also need to work on water intake.

pattygirl63
07-11-2014, 11:26 AM
When I read the first book that the Heller's wrote, I was impressed with their stories of how they discovered this way of eating. Rachel was scheduled for some kind of test that she had to fast for. She had never fasted and knew she could not so she had scheduled to be tested early so she could eat breakfast right after. She got a call that morning that they had to change her to later in the day. She was petrified. She carries some food (can't remember what) around with her all day at work. She was a psychiatrist or psychologist. She decided if fasting became unbearable that she would eat. To her surprise, she made it through fast and the test. As soon as she left she went directly to a restaurant and ate what she wanted and even ordered a dessert. She was shocked the next morning to find that she had not gained weight as expected but she had lost weight. So she decided to experiment and try it again. She began to lose weight easily by eating only one meal a day. I think she even had lab work done and her health was improving.

Richard's story came from him being a scientist. He studied and figured out that low carb diets worked, but he felt there were other foods we needed to be healthy. When they met and found their stories were similar and they married. The developed the CAD way of eating. You can eat 1 meal, 2 meals or 3 meals and up to 3 snacks but only one will consist of carby foods. Of course they don't call the other meals low carb, but after doing low carb diets I realized that is what they were.

I identified with her because I never ate breakfast when I was growing up. There was a time when I ate only 2 meals a day and then there was a time in my life when I ate only 1 meal a day and I lost weight quickly. Now that I am diabetic, I can't seem to do 1 meal a day. Wish I could, I lose 1 lb a day doing it. However, at my age, I don't need to lose that quickly. Right now I just need to organize myself to eat 2 low carb and 1 carby (RM) a day.

It works, I know it works. I just have to get myself back to it. BTW, I've decided to use my testing materials and see if it is all really true. My FBS was 158 this morning. No surprise as I ate everything in the world even when I wasn't really hungry. That's why I put that little reminder in my signature. I read it somewhere and adopted it as my new reminder. If you ate when your not hungry, you just overate. That is for me girls. :) Any way, I'm going to work at doing CAD today and maybe if I do testing before and after each of my meals, I can get back on it. I'll give the results to y'all tomorrow.

Have a good one and I'll check back later.

Rennie Where are you? You wouldn't let me be missing this long without checking on me. So check in girl.:hug:

pattygirl63
07-11-2014, 11:28 AM
Shannon CONGRATS on the 100% OP day. I'm going to try to make today a 100% OP day too. I'm proud of you girl.:)

Wannabehealthy
07-11-2014, 12:00 PM
Shannon, I gave up on only posting once a day when I figured out tentatively that my pain was from my psoriasis.

Good job on 100 % OP!! I've not had a day like that in a while although I'm "in control."

I have a funny story to relate. We were ordering 4 car rim online. They were $89 each. The website offered a 25% discount on any order over $100. DH told me to place 2 orders, each for 2 rims. He said each would be over $100 so we would get 25% off each one, equaling 50%. LOL I had the hardest time explaining to him that it didn't work that way! He is very smart when it comes to fixing things, but math is not figured in there!

moonkissed
07-11-2014, 03:34 PM
Carol Sue I am sorry I didn't mean any offense. I was just always told that it was all about balance balance balance so I wasn't sure if it was like the only way. Now I know :)

I am still figuring out how things affect me. Last night I had spaghetti for dinner plus 2 small slices of italian bread. But I took a small portion instead of how I would normally have eaten lol And then I got that 117 BS after dinner. So I must be able to atleast handle that reasonably enough.

I could totally sit down and eat an entire loaf of bread as well. And in the past sadly I have :(

There is so much trial and error and having to learn what works for you. It can seem really daunting.

My doctor was very happy though she said she wanted to wait and talk about the diabetes the next time I see her in 2 months.

Shannonsnail Thanks! I feel so happy about it! I am sorry yours is going up though :( I am bipolar with severe anxiety. Before counting calories was both good and bad for me. It kept me focused where if I wasn't focused and on a routine I couldn't function much less stay on plan. But at the same time I would obsess that I wasn't doing it right, I wasn't getting enough calories, getting too many, etc... and feel overwhelmed and not able to do it. But now I am on medication so I hope it balances me out so I can do it and stick with it.

I am sorry about all the house stress that is no fun :( I hope you find something soon!

pattygirl63 This CAD really sounds interesting. I look forward to hearing how you do on it. I love my carbs so much that I don't want to give them up. But I also have alot of negative feelings like pressure to go low carb. Maybe one carb meal could be a good balance of those emotions. Are you on insulin to offset the one carb meal?

Thanks ladies :) You are all so full of information i feel like a sponge lol

Shannonsnail
07-11-2014, 04:53 PM
Shannon CONGRATS on the 100% OP day. I'm going to try to make today a 100% OP day too. I'm proud of you girl.:)

Thank you! So far so good today too but we'll be eating dinner at a place I generally "cheat" so I actually just ate a second lunch, lol, in hopes of staying low carb at dinner. We increased our viewing of houses from 2 to 4 to be more productive and we leave town at 4 pm to meet the agent at 5 pm so I estimate dinner to be around 7 pm....hoping I won't be completely starving. I just fed Olivia again too and will take snacks for her too. Something about driving from house to house turns her into a starving beast. She's already whiny today too, lol.

We just went to the bank and prequalified for a loan so we can make an offer if we see the right place. The repeat house today has alot of potential and was my favorite last time til I saw the one with the bigger lot that I thought Mark would prefer but he says he actually likes this house better online (he was not with me before) so we'll see. It doesn't have the front porch and screened porch I'd like (which the other one did) but it has a shady backyard with a nice deck and sunroom plus alot more actual rooms. The kitchen is pretty too. Keep me in your prayers! This is such a frustrating process on top of the emotions with deciding on moving to a smaller town....am I making the right decision? Is this a safer/better place to raise my daughter? Will we be completely bored in a smaller town and wished me stayed here? Etc etc. It is easier to deal with all that when you have to work in a specific location rather than being able to live anywhere.

Shannonsnail
07-11-2014, 04:59 PM
Carol Sue I am sorry I didn't mean any offense. I was just always told that it was all about balance balance balance so I wasn't sure if it was like the only way. Now I know :)

I am still figuring out how things affect me. Last night I had spaghetti for dinner plus 2 small slices of italian bread. But I took a small portion instead of how I would normally have eaten lol And then I got that 117 BS after dinner. So I must be able to atleast handle that reasonably enough.

I could totally sit down and eat an entire loaf of bread as well. And in the past sadly I have :(

There is so much trial and error and having to learn what works for you. It can seem really daunting.

My doctor was very happy though she said she wanted to wait and talk about the diabetes the next time I see her in 2 months.

Shannonsnail Thanks! I feel so happy about it! I am sorry yours is going up though :( I am bipolar with severe anxiety. Before counting calories was both good and bad for me. It kept me focused where if I wasn't focused and on a routine I couldn't function much less stay on plan. But at the same time I would obsess that I wasn't doing it right, I wasn't getting enough calories, getting too many, etc... and feel overwhelmed and not able to do it. But now I am on medication so I hope it balances me out so I can do it and stick with it.

I am sorry about all the house stress that is no fun :( I hope you find something soon!

pattygirl63 This CAD really sounds interesting. I look forward to hearing how you do on it. I love my carbs so much that I don't want to give them up. But I also have alot of negative feelings like pressure to go low carb. Maybe one carb meal could be a good balance of those emotions. Are you on insulin to offset the one carb meal?

Thanks ladies :) You are all so full of information i feel like a sponge lol

Glad we can help you learn! It's a testimony to how unique we each are just in how we are able to lose weight and/or control BS! If I eat pasta my BS is ok as long as I don't also have the bread, lol! Tonight we will eat at a steak place that serves bread and potato with each meal AND has a free ice cream bar!! I usually cave to all of it. Tonight I'm going to try to stick to low carb bc if we move we will be eating there alot (hubby's favorite restaurant) so I need to learn to eat there with my new way of eating.

pattygirl63
07-11-2014, 11:13 PM
I tested after meals all day today doing CAD. BS was all over the place. I was not really impressed.

A busy day tomorrow. Beauty shop then have to go to one store really quick come back home prepare meal and have to go to a wedding late tomorrow afternoon then run by Walmart after to get meds. So not sure I'll be on here much tomorrow.

Y'all have a great weekend.

Shannonsnail
07-12-2014, 12:37 AM
We found another house! We are going to make an offer but really nervous it will be another already going under contract!

pattygirl63
07-12-2014, 09:23 AM
A quick flyby. FBS was down from 158 yesterday to 142 today. So will give a CAD a chance to see if it will help get me back to losing. Weight is also is down a little from last week from 123.8 to 122. Considering my overeating carbs this past week, that isn't bad. I'll give it a month to see if it works for me like it has in the past.

Shannon Praying the contract goes through for you and you have found your new home.

Y'all have a great day.

Wannabehealthy
07-12-2014, 10:59 AM
Shannon, I am praying for you with the house! Maybe this is the ONE! It sounds really nice. When we bought our house it had been on the market for a while with no one interested, but it was perfect for us and fit our budget. I think it was because the yard has a hill going up in the back which leaves just a small useable area. But we like it because it eliminated a back neighbor. Our kids were teens by then and didn't use a back yard.

I love baked potatoes and that is one of the concessions I sometimes make when eating out. Not every time, but once in a while. As long as I eat my protein first I don't usually have a problem.

Moonkissed, I am not offended. I should probably suggest that people follow the directions of their doctor or diabetes educator, and then tweak that information if it doesn't work for you. I just tell people this is what works for me. Everyone is different. Other diabetics tell me that they eat some carbs with every meal and I am just downright jealous! LOL I know my problem is portions. I could probably eat carbs at every meal if I ate a small portion, but I have a tendancy to get carried away, and therefore eliminating them is the key for me. Since I also want to lose weight, low carb helps with that, too.

Trish, I think you might be able to do CAD if you start out by limiting the portion of carb at your reward meal, and then increasing gradually until you reach the point that works for you. Last night I got a fish sandwich at the casino. I really wanted that bun and I did eat a couple bites of it, but then took the sandwich apart and ate the fish with the lettuce and tomato and it was good. When I got home my BS was 97, but that was 7 hours after my meal. LOL

Rennie has deserted us again, along with the others. What did we do to chase them away? LOL

Shannonsnail
07-12-2014, 11:57 AM
I meant to also say last night that I was proud of myself for finding a low carb option at our dinner location. First time I have ever skipped the bread, potato and ice cream there! My BS was 98 before bed and FBS 109....impprovement! The rest of my family left this morning for an overnight at the beach so I am gloriously by my lonesome today. LOL! I am meeting a friend for a late lunch (at a place I know what to get for LC, yay!) and the rest of the day I will be cleaning and cooking. My house is still a mess from our cousin's visit, laundry is backed up, haven't been on a regular grocery shopping trip, etc. trying to get my house back in order and do some make ahead prep with LC foods.

On the house.....I'm getting all nervous of what if it's not the one and we shouldn't make an offer. I will be honest, it has two shortcomings -storage in pantry and master bedroom closet are both less than what I'd like. The pantry is prob ok because there are more cabinets and drawers than my current home and the laundry room is next to kitchen and there is room for putting in extra shelving there. Master bedroom closet is ridiculously small. It is a big room with a huge bath but a tiny closet, lol! Other than that though, it is great. It has a very large bonus room upstairs with full bath that can be used for Mark's office/guest bedroom/home theater area, it also has a lot of walk in attic space up there. Mark would have the privacy he needs during the day for work and can watch his very loud TV up there at night. There are 3 bedrooms downstairs which fulfills Mark's dream of us mostly living on one level (in case of failing health or mobility issues). We would have our bedroom, Olivia's bedroom and there is a smaller bedroom that would be great for my crafting or I could give her the smaller room and make the larger one a crafting/play room. The master is by the kitchen and stairs to bonus while the other two rooms are on the opposite side of house so there is privacy. And the yard is just simply awesome. Plenty of room for Olivia to play, Mark to fly his planes and me to have a garden. There is already a tree swing! The garage is 2 car but actually has some extra room so it could be consided 2.5 cars. We have a 1 car garage now and do not use it for parking. So, the only drawbacks are the pantry and MBR closet.

love2b150
07-12-2014, 02:28 PM
Ladies I'm here doing ok up until today. I had a horrible off eating day yesterday and I mean horrible. My stomach was full but I kept thinking of things that I wanted so I ate them. Scale was up today and so was fbs.

Trish and Carol Sue thanks for thinking of me. Trish you're right I do look for you when you're away :hug: Carol Sue you don't do anything to chase anyone away. :hug: I'm always reading and gaining knowledge here :hug: As I always say you all are a boatload of information :) I thank you :)

Shannon that house sounds nice. Could you possibly use one of the other closets for you or Mark instead of sharing the one in the master bedroom? or is there a possibility to maybe have one of those closet space creators come in and redo it, just a thought, especially if it's the price and area that you want. Best of luck to you. :)

pattygirl63
07-13-2014, 09:52 AM
Rennie So good to see you today. Hope things are better. I've decided that we just have those days. Not sure why. :hug::dizzy:

Well, my week of experimenting is over. Weight and fbs going up. I refuse to lose total control and have to fight this again. Yes, I'm still going to do IE because I do think I am overeating if I'm eating by the clock or any reason other than hunger. However, I'm back on low carb. I know I can use CAD for a back up when needed, but I do not think that I can make it work any more because it doesn't fit my personality. I do know it can work for some people because I know a woman on the CAD thread on a low carb site that started CAD when I did 11 1/2 yrs ago and she has kept her weight off with it for years. It just doesn't fit me as a daily lifestyle. As my doctor told me, "You should know by now what you can and can't eat. You shouldn't have to test". He is right, I actually know that Atkins is the way I should eat, but I know I can't do that any more. However, I can do modified form of low carb.

The wedding was beautiful. Glad we went because I didn't see many people there from our church. They changed things at the last minute and invited all at the wedding to the reception, but we hadn't planned to go so and had to get meds and get a few groceries. So we didn't go.

Y'all have a great Sunday.

BBL

Wannabehealthy
07-13-2014, 10:12 AM
Trish, I think we keep testing and trying to fit carbs into our diet because we want it to work, but it's not going to change and we just have to face that. I struggle with that, too and probably always will, but as long as I mainly do low carb I'm not going to stress over it. I rarely make or order french fries for myself, but will eat a couple when DH has them. That way I get to eat a couple but not a whole order. I do the same with his baked potato. He will cut off a small piece for me. I'm like a mother finishing their child's food off their plate. LOL

Rennie, I'm glad I provide information for you, but I wish I could practice what I preach a little better. I know what to do, but doing it is a different story.

moonkissed
07-13-2014, 11:12 AM
Well I was down 1.2lbs this week. Slowly but surely getting there. That means I am just 11.2lbs away from Onderland!!

My FBS was high this morning 143 but I ate badly yesterday :( I wish I could have better control sometimes. I seem to just put my brain on hold. But I am going shopping today and I have a good plan so I think I will do alot better.

Trish I'm sorry your week experiment didn't go well but atleast it seems like you learned some things from it so that is always good.

love2b150 :hug:

Shannon goodluck with the house! If you don't love it I wouldn't put an offer on it but it sounds really great. Closet/pantry can always be worked around if it has everything else going for it!


Anyone have good low carb snack ideas? Right now I am doing cheese & nuts but I have to be so careful not to overdo the nuts it can be hard lol

Wannabehealthy
07-13-2014, 11:50 AM
Moonkissed, I have recently developed a liking for celery sticks and pepper strips. I prefer red, orange and yellow to green. I never liked them before.

Shannon, I know you and DH have needs for the spare bedroom, but depending on how small it is, you could turn it into a walk-in-closet. My son and dil almost bought a house that was very short on closet space. They hesitated on putting in a bid, and then found the house they ended up buying. So I guess I'm saying if you're not really sure, hold out for something else. My kitchen is very small and short on storage space, but we have a basement and I have shelves and an old kitchen cabinet for extra food etc. What about a laundry room. Some people put shelving in a laundry room for extra storage, and you did say the garage was big....or am I getting the houses mixed up?

Shannonsnail
07-13-2014, 11:50 AM
I've missed you Rennie! Thank you for helping me out last week. I'm finally back to normal :D

BS was 98 before bed and FBS was 95...yay me! I also finally lost all the weight I gained from being backed up and am at a new low of 180.2. Not sure if I will still meet my July goal of 173 but at least I'm back to where I was before getting so constipated.

Yesterday I ended up being gone all day. Went to meet a friend for a planned lunch at 1, didn't leave til almost 5 and since it was close to another friend I had not seen in several months I stopped by her house and we hung out a while and went for dinner later. I didn't get home til 10:30. I thought my family was going to be gone til dinnertime tonight but alas, they decided to come back early and will be home in a few minutes....oh well, break is over, lol!

I need to talk to hubby about whether we are making an offer on the house. The utilities and taxes are MUCH higher where we would move, like double on both. I'm not really sure why since it's a small town and we currently live in the state capital. We got copies yesterday of the house's last year of utility bills and the range was crazy $222-574/mth with the avg being around $400. Here, we pay fairly consistently $240/mth. We knew this about the area so it's not like a surprise, I just know it's causing Mark to hem and haw more about going forward. We'll see. Rennie, in regards to the closet, we would probably store his hanging clothes in the closet where his office would be. It was just really surprising to me that it was so small. I think that room runs next to the garage so I don't think we could build it out later but I haven't looked at it closely of course. It's way too small for a closet company to "fix" lol! I swear I think they forgot the closet and had to add it after the room was done, lol!

Daisynyc
07-13-2014, 04:49 PM
Hi there. Newly diagnosed Type 2. Obese, freaked out and no clue where to begin. I knew I was overeating/bingeing on carbs, but I was shocked to learn I was diabetic. AIC is 10.3%.

When I found out, last week, I promptly bought myself a glucose monitor and began testing regularly. I also went on a fairly drastic low carb diet beginning yesterday, and my sugars have begun to creep down nicely. Post-lunch (2 hours) was 163. But wow - I am not sure I can do this forever!

Anyway, sorry to barge in here. :) Some background: 43 years old. Married mom of two. Work part time (attorney). Looking forward to learning more and reading posts.

pattygirl63
07-13-2014, 07:18 PM
Daisy:welcome3: You aren't barging in on us. We are glad you have found us and hope you will come back. Your reaction to your diagnosis is normal. I think we all were probably shocked when we heard that news. We are all here for each other.

I did exactly what you did a few years ago when I went to the doctor because I knew my bs was up again. I got right on to Atkins and got my bs back to normal and the went right back to my bad habits. If you don't think you can stick to low carb (I'm not sure how low you are doing), I would suggest finding a low carb plan that you can live with. Some of us who can't do a very low carb plan like Atkins, do a modified version of it.

Saying that, I think I'm going to have to get on Atkins Induction for a few days to get rid of the cravings I'm suddenly having. Didn't do well today and I have a church pot luck supper to go to Wednesday night. I had not originally planned to go and I'm not sure I can go to it or not because I really need to start Atkins Induction tomorrow and do it for a minimum of 7 to 10 days. I'll have to see. But tomorrow is going to be Day 1 of Atkins Induction for me.

Wannabehealthy
07-13-2014, 08:15 PM
Welcome Daisy! Glad to see any and all newcomers. We were all newcomers at one time and now we have a nice friendly little group. Doing it forever is pretty much it. In time, you may learn what carbs you can eat in what quantities, but unless you undergo bariatric weight loss surgery, diabetes isn't going anywhere. Some people lose a lot of weight and bring their blood sugars down to normal levels, but they still have to watch their carbs or it will be right back. We have all struggled with it here, so we can give you the support you need to get through the tough times. Maybe in return you can give us some free legal advice. LOL

I really blew it big time today but it was totally worth it. I ate very light at breakfast and lunch because I knew we were going out for dinner. I had a stuffed pork chop with a baked sweet potato, green beans and a salad, and I ate every last bite. It was delicious! I have not tested to see what damage I've done, but I will be back on track tomorrow. At least I didn't eat the rolls. LOL

dgramie
07-13-2014, 08:57 PM
I got 3 of my grandkids in Friday and they went home today. We ate out Friday night and I did good carb wise but had fried fish. Grease really hurts my stomach. Then yesterday we had fried chicken sweet corn squash and cornbread. FBS was 104 this morning. Hubby has been wanting white beans and all the fixings so today I made a pot. We has leftover sweet corn and fried green tomatoes and fries potatoes and corn bread and sliced ripe tomatoes. Hubby did a post meal check and it was 204. I did one and it was 93.
No more bad meals for us. Back to grilled meats and 2 veggies one being a carb.
On a postitive note we have gotten lots of exercise walking.

Shannonsnail
07-14-2014, 12:57 AM
:welcome3: Daisy!

Your reaction is totally normal and it takes a while to realize the change in eating is pretty much permanent and accepting that. I eat low carb high fat and am having alot of success with weight loss and blood glucose improvement. I am prediabetic. If you want some recipes to try or have questions about cooking with low carb ingredients I am happy to help! This is a great group. I hope you'll check in often!

Shannonsnail
07-14-2014, 01:01 AM
My day was so crazy but I did NOT eat anything at the party other than a few nuts and diet soda. So proud of myself. Kid birthday parties have really tripped me up before (I have 3 more in the next 2 weeks!). It helped though that I ate right before leaving and all my family members were asking about my weight loss and how I eat, lol! Afterward we went back to the town we are potentially moving to and ate dinner, visited my brother and rode by the house again. I ate the same meal that worked for me Friday when we were there last.

moonkissed
07-14-2014, 08:43 AM
my FBS was 131 this morning. I over did it last night but learned that my appetite is already alot less then it used to be. We had tacos & in the past I would pig out eating 6-8! :o Last night I was stuffed after 2. Sadly I ate a third because my brain didn't get the message sigh. I have to remind myself that it is so much more mental then physical and be prepared for that.

Today I am all in the game and excited to do much better! I had scrambled eggs loaded with zucchini, summer squash & spinach. So yummy. Now going to eat an apple and check my BS later to see how the apple does to me.

I am volunteering down at the animal shelter today! Super nervous as its my first time but it will involve some walking to get there so yay exercise lol

Daisy :welcome: to the party!! I agree with others to make sure whatever plan u r on is one that you can live with because alot of people find that if they do too restrictive they end up burning out and going right back to how they were before.

Shannon good job not letting the party trip you up!! :carrot:

dgramie
07-14-2014, 09:14 AM
Fbs was 128 today. I had chicken salad on crackers last night. Guess I had to many.
Not sure what we are eating today. Hubby is already asking for leftovers. I on the other hand am ready to move on.
Lots of rain overnight.

Shannonsnail
07-14-2014, 11:11 AM
Woohoo! Party time! I reached a new low! 179.4 today.....new decade!! BS before bed was 100 and FBS was 98.

Hubby is trying to confirm with his boss today that they will not ask him to move (he has been in a trial period of being "virtual") before we decide about making an offer on that house. I think we are ready to move forward if they give the ok. We had alot of heated discussions over the weekend about moving/not moving. I'm kind of tired of such discussions and am reaching a state of no longer caring. Just took his breakfast up and boss gave ok so he is writing up our terms. Fingers crossed everyone!

Wannabehealthy
07-14-2014, 11:16 AM
Dgramie, your hubbys blood sugar responded the way mine would if I had eaten that same meal. I am really surprised at your 93, but that's really good! I think you could change your chicken salad with crackers to chicken salad with celery sticks. I used to eat a lot of crackers but now they are in the cupboard getting stale. I think the birds will be getting them soon, or I'll crush them and use them in meatloaf etc.

Shannon, you are doing great! I think your biggest impact is your weight loss. I'm sure your family was impressed and happy for you. When we bought our house it was on my way home from work and I rode past it every day while we were waiting for our loan approval.

My FBG was 175 this morning. I am not going to take my glimiperide because my breakfast was just eggs and veggies and I intend to exercise later and I don't want my BS to take a nose dive. I think it will go down by itself with exercise. I'm going to try to get back to tracking regularly. I need to do something to get the scale moving.

Moonkissed, here is a trick I do with tacos. I eat one taco loaded with lots of veggies, then I put some meat, cheese, tomatoes and sauce over a big bed of lettuce and eat it as a salad without the tortilla. It tastes like a taco. Neither of us like sour cream on ours so that works out. Anyway, I buy plain greek yogurt and always substitute that for sour cream.

dgramie
07-14-2014, 02:33 PM
Carol sue-no matter what I eat during the day my readings are 110 or less. My morning readings are always the highest of the day.
So far today I am doing great! Egg and a slice ham for breakfast. Lunch was chicken salad on romaine lettuce. Yum!! So very little carbs so far. Dinner will be squash cooked down real good and pork culet baked. I may allow myself a serving of beans but no cornbread.

pattygirl63
07-14-2014, 03:08 PM
My fbs was 161 down a little from yesterday, but it should of, could have been better if I hadn't been feeding my cravings yesterday. But today is a New day and I am back on low carb although NOT Atkins. I think I just need to get on a modified low carb that I can live with. That is what I was doing before the trip. It may take me a week or so to get the fbs back down to normal area, but it will come. Carol Sue I'm starting up my exercise again today too which I know will help a lot.

I'm reading some of Dr. Mercola's stuff too. I am going to work at giving up most bread/wheat eating. I've copied some of his articles and will be reading them more closely than I was able to on line. I have found out somewhere on line the difference in Atkins low carb and Paleo/Primal low carb. Paleo/Primal says eat range free animals, eggs, organic foods, etc. While I'm sure Atkins isn't against that, Atkins does not make it a requirement. I would love to eat the Paleo/Primal way, but on Social Security and having to feed a 20 yr old young man, that isn't even in the realm of possiblity.

I love how we learn from each other. Example, Carol Sue You said you don't usually want toast because you eat your eggs with greens and mushrooms etc. I decided this morning that I only want toast with regular fried eggs. This morning I made an omelet with 2 eggs, salsa, jalapenos, cheese, bacon and frozen baby kale. Didn't miss the toast at all. Dr. Mercola seems to think corn is okay for insulin. I will see if he is right. I'm cooking chicken wings, corn on the cob (both my favorites) and broccoli mixture. I will test later to see how it effects my bs. Dinner will be steak and green beans. I've also gone back to using Stevia instead of Splenda. I won't be eating out enough to use Splenda. I could start drinking lemon water without sweetner when eating out.

BBL for indies.

pattygirl63
07-14-2014, 06:38 PM
Intended to do 20 min on the bike and I did 30 minutes instead. So proud of myself for that one. I'm still OP. Calories for today will end up being 1515 calories and carbs are in the 70s.

Shannon :cp: Great job at the party. :crossed: That things go good on your contract.

dgramie Crackers are a weakness of mine too especially with a good salad. When I'm in control, I can handle less than a regular serving every once in a while, but when I'm in an over carbed state like I've been the past few weeks, they are a real problem for me. I can't really make anything a total restriction or it becomes a bigger problem so I just have to make them off limits for the moment. I hope that someday they will become stale in the cabinet as Carol Sue does.

moonkissed I love tacos and I've learned to just make mine a taco salad. I start with what could become a chef salad and then put taco meat on it. It is really good. I have taken 1 taco shell and broken it around the bowl for decor so I will not over eat the taco shells.

Daisy and Rennie Hope things are going good with y'all.

Have a good day everyone.

Shannonsnail
07-15-2014, 12:04 AM
Ya'll are not going to believe this! I just did an interview with HEALTH magazine about using lifestyle interventions to "beat prediabetes"! Crazy!! If I find out I'm included in the print version I will let you know!

dgramie
07-15-2014, 09:10 AM
Fbs was 115. I need to go back to a bedtime snack and get that number lower.
Today I plan to be outside and enjoy the cooler weather. Hubby and I will be walking after dinner.

moonkissed
07-15-2014, 10:34 AM
Carol Sue & Trish thanks! That is a great idea to add the taco meat to a salad. I will remember that for next time for sure!

Shannon Congrats :carrot: on the weightloss new low! Also how cool that you got to do an interview for a magazine! That is so neat.

Wannabehealthy
07-15-2014, 12:03 PM
Shannon, I subscribe to Health, so I'm hoping to see your interview in a coming issue! How did that interview come about?

All this talk about tacos and taco salads makes me want to make tacos for dinner today. I bought a set of those pans to make taco bowls but I have yet to buy the low carb tortillas. I'm finding that not all stores carry them. It doesn't seem that there's a big demand for them. DH and I both got a high blood pressure spike that we believe was from the packaged taco seasoning so I am planning to try a substitute next time. I think someone gave me a recipe to mix your own spices where you can control the amount of salt. I will have to look in my online recipe file and see if it's there. Last time I tried just mixing salsa with the meat and that didn't do it for me. If nothing else, I might try just adding a small amount of the seasoning, just for the flavor.

Wannabehealthy
07-15-2014, 12:09 PM
Saw this in the paper this morning.

http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/dreamfields-offers-7-9-million-lawsuit-settlement-over-low-carb-pasta-claims/22545

https://dreamfieldssettlement.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwopOeBRC1ndXgnuvx8JYBEiQAq4RPt3zAY1U tzjgR5JLCefXa-TquxwmAA5BjBEay7ICrdwgaAgDn8P8HAQ

I think I bought it once but was not impressed. I don't eat much pasta of any kind. It doesn't spike my blood sugar as badly as bread, especially if I have meatballs or other protein with it.

dgramie
07-15-2014, 02:16 PM
Carol sue - I buy low sodium taco seasoning from time to time. I prefer to use cumin and some garlic and a sprinkle of chili powder and throw in a can of diced green chilis
I am finding I don't miss the shells much.
I picked my first ripe tomato today. They are about 2 wks later than normal. Squash is doing great this yr. I have picked 57 off of 5 heels so far this yr. I am excited because my garden didn't produce well last yr. I will have bell peppers till frost.

pattygirl63
07-15-2014, 02:24 PM
Carol Sue I just read an article by Dr. Mercola that said not to trust labels.

Today is day 2 OP. I'm in the process of going to Dr. Mercola's website and read some of his articles. Although I can't do the range free and organic foods, I still can learn a lot that I may be able to help with my plan.

Not much else to report today. So I'll just make this a flyby.

Y'all have a really great day.

Shannonsnail
07-15-2014, 02:30 PM
Shannon, I subscribe to Health, so I'm hoping to see your interview in a coming issue! How did that interview come about?

All this talk about tacos and taco salads makes me want to make tacos for dinner today. I bought a set of those pans to make taco bowls but I have yet to buy the low carb tortillas. I'm finding that not all stores carry them. It doesn't seem that there's a big demand for them. DH and I both got a high blood pressure spike that we believe was from the packaged taco seasoning so I am planning to try a substitute next time. I think someone gave me a recipe to mix your own spices where you can control the amount of salt. I will have to look in my online recipe file and see if it's there. Last time I tried just mixing salsa with the meat and that didn't do it for me. If nothing else, I might try just adding a small amount of the seasoning, just for the flavor.

I just saw a posting from one of my favorite low carb food bloggers about needing female prediabetics to talk to the magazine and sent my contact info, totally wasn't expecting to actually hear from anyone, lol! I just sent over my before and after pics so we'll see!

On the subject of tacos, if you have a Trader Joes, their prepackaged seasoning is all spices. You can also make your own. I just made taco pie last night, shredded mexican beef tacos the night before (I either make it as a salad or make my own tortilla from scratch, wheat free, low carb) and today we ate lunch at Moe's! I love Mexican! Giving up chips has been hard.

FBS was 114 today....I was fasting from like 7 pm til 10 am when I tested, I think my liver dumped bc I had a great day yesterday and was 100 at bedtime.

Wannabehealthy
07-15-2014, 03:52 PM
I don't understand that liver dumping. Before I was diabetic, I sometimes went for long periods of time without eating, for various reasons. I would get very hungry to the point of getting shaky, but eventually that would go away. Was that a liver dump?

lotsakids
07-15-2014, 07:31 PM
Patti - Skinny girl has a liquid stevia that is small enough to fit in your purse. I carry one with me so that I can use it instead of other sweeteners.

I need to check my bs more regularly - I've been off since returning from our trip to biblequiz nationals.

I did get back on my exercise but not my bs checking :P

Wannabehealthy
07-15-2014, 07:58 PM
Hi Donna! Good to see you here. I think I am paranoid about checking my blood sugar and trying trust myself. If I KNOW I've stayed on low carb, I try not to check as often.

Today was such an off plan day! I was good with my eggs this morning and a salad for lunch, but we went out for dinner and I had a Pittsburgh Turkey Sandwich (french fries and cole slaw ON the sandwich) then came home and ate a bowl of ice cream with chocolate syrup. My husband is having a lot of pain again which he thinks is from the shingles. I keep telling him to go to the doctor because I have a feeling that something else is going on but he says no. I am blaming my poor eating on the stress I'm feeling over him, especially since we just left the funeral home for a family friend who died from cancer. If he would get this checked out it would make me feel a whole lot better.

Liliann
07-15-2014, 09:30 PM
Hello Ladies...Hoping I can chime in here..I have been told twice by my medical doctor that am pre-diabetic..Done lab test last month and according to the results, it was at 108.. and that put me at risk for getting it.

Then I check FBS at home kit, have Breeze 2 and its at 132 before dinner tonight.

I had seen my medical doctor Tues morning and now am going to weigh in on thier scale. I gained 4 Lbs...But still holding steady on my 33 Lbs lost so far and do have a long way to go. My doctor pushing me on avoiding all breads/rolls,white and wheat, pasta, rice, all potatoes..and that leaves me on my new foods staples on fruits,veggies and proteins...

I had been eating wheat bagels, fiber one that I think hinders my gain and spike on my sugar level at home. Tuesday I did good, ate fruits and dinner sauages w green peppers!!

I am here to gain knowlege and offer moral support to beat the diabetes ,,which I am strongly changing my food items more healthier now. I am not tracking/dieting per say..am not a journling type..so am eating when am hungry..of fruits,veggies and proteins.

Well, I will check in later..Been reading all of your posts and you all sounds nice. I am home daily, but will do my best on posting more on this thread..

Thank you for listening and looking forward to beat this ...Have a nice Wednesday..

Shannonsnail
07-15-2014, 11:03 PM
:welcome: Liliann! I, too, am prediabetic. I have improved my glucose results through frequent home testing. I have found that cutting out bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, corn and sugared items works for me. At first I did not think I could give those up but discovered once I did my cravings lessened and those foods no longer called to me like they once did. I'm almost 4 months into changing my diet and I still slip up and get distracted by carbs but mostly I do pretty good. I do not count anything and have lost 31 lbs so far. We look forward to hearing more from you!

Shannonsnail
07-15-2014, 11:08 PM
I gotta tell ya'll I'm dying over here! We are still waiting to hear back from the sellers on our offer. My agent emailed me today around 4:30 and said their agent said we would hear tonight. It's 10 pm and nothing. Grrr, hate waiting!!

Liliann
07-16-2014, 07:53 AM
Shannon...Thanks for the welcome! Good luck with your home buying..hoping the deal goes well.

My morning fbs is 123..

Have a great day all..Will check in later..

moonkissed
07-16-2014, 08:49 AM
My FBS was 131 this morning which honestly is way better then I was imagining. I almost didn't check because I was so worried it would be high. I had a pizza binge last night :( Luckily I was smart enough to get thin crust with lots of veggies so that helped somewhat I guess. If I didn't stuff myself until I was sick...

I am so upset at myself. I am never going to lose this weight if I keep having slip up binges. It is like if food is involved my head shuts off and all I can think about is stuffing my face.

But today will be better! I am not giving up. I can only learn from my mistakes and try harder.

Wannabehealthy
07-16-2014, 09:42 AM
Welcome, Liliann! Good to see you here. This can be a tough road, but you can do it!

Moonkissed, we have all made the same mistakes. Pizza is one of my worst foods and we used to have pizza often. DH still has it, but the closest I get is to pull the cheese and toppings off one slice and eat that, even though, being a bread lover, the crust is the best part. That's my problem with carbs, too, once I start eating them I stuff myself. As you start eating more low carb foods the call of the carbs will become more distant. I have had issues the past couple days but I think once I get back to eating my veggies things will improve. I too went through a period when I didn't test because I didn't want to see the high number, but guess what...even if you don't see it, it's still there, and it's still doing irreversible damage to your body. So make sure to test when you think you aren't doing well. It will show you the importance of healthy eating. Just forget the pizza binge and move on!

Liliann
07-16-2014, 10:39 AM
Carol Sue...Thanks for the welcome!

Moon...:hug: Hang in there...and you said it, never give up..Its a on going battle and keep plugging along. We all sometimes slip up..So No Guilt,and move on..Have a better day..YOU can do it!! :)

had 2 peaches and 1 sausage link for my morning meal..and drinking water..

Everyone have a great day..

pattygirl63
07-16-2014, 12:06 PM
Lillian WELCOME!!! This is truly a learning experience. You can do this.

Shannon Hope you hear on the house today. I know the waiting is no fun. Been there done that. :hug: They buyer is ready for an answer and it seems like the realtor or seller doesn't get in as big of a hurry as we do.

Moonkissed I know those stupid binges really get to us sometime. I thought I got passed binges until the past few weeks. I think this is where we just have to learn what lessons we can take from it and move on. Don't get hung up on guilt.:hug: Keeping your attitude of "not giving up" is the key to success or at least I hope it is. I always believe that as long as I keep trying that someday it is all going to fall in place for me.

According to Dr. Mercola, the foods that we crave are probably the foods that we have an allergy to. :?: IDK if that is true, but it is interesting. After all, he eats Paleo and doesn't think you should eat any grains except for only a limited few which I didn't see all that he did allow except for corn because that is one of my favorites.

Speaking of learning from our mistakes. I've decided that I am a night eater and I need to make that work for me. About a year ago or so I did Intermittent Fasting with Intuitive Eating and it was doing great for me. I did a 16 hour fast with an 8 hr eating window and even able to make my eating window only 5 hrs. My weight and my fbs was coming down. And then I made the mistake of telling my doctor what I was doing and he said that he didn't want me fasting. Well, I've done nothing but struggle since then. So maybe I should go back to what was working. And this is why...

I told y'all that I've been reading Dr. Mercola articles and that lead me to looking up info on Intermittent Fasting (IF). Actually research shows that IF works very well for some diabetics. Some even use IF to do paleo/low carb diets and I read where even David Mendosa now does IF. He said he had really struggled to lose weight and get his weight off and then he started gaining again. He decided to try IF and he said it has been the easiest weight loss and maintenance he has ever done.

When I was a teenager and ate more Intuitive way of eating, I didn't eat breakfast except on rare occasions like on trips or vacation. Since I was in school I didn't eat until lunchtime which was any where from 12 to 2 depending on what grade I was in. Then we had supper/dinner around 5:30 pm when Daddy got home from work. I suddenly realized yesterday that not only was I doing IE; I was doing IF and I didn't even know it. I've always said that I had no weight problems until I started eating 3 meals and snacks which now I realize had me eating outside of what IF would call my normal eating window which most of my life was never more than a five hour window. And I was very healthy until I started adding too many junk foods. So my theory is that I just need to go back to eating according to my original "normal" eating pattern and things will correct itself. It is sure worth giving it the "old college try".

Like I said above, I know that I am night eater now at least until I get this going again. So I'm going for the 16 hr fast with an 8 hr eating window. Then as that begins to become normal again, I may even be able to go back to the old 5 hr eating window. I understand that this is easier to do eating low carb so I probably will make most although not all my foods low carb. I don't want to have any restrictions on food right now. I didn't have them when I did it naturally and I don't want it now because I don't want to set myself up for failure. I read that it takes 3 days to get past cravings and then it becomes easier. I also read Moonkissed tat when we change our way of eating to lower fbs that it takes a while. So don't be too hard on yourself. You are doing good as long as it is coming down and you are learning what does and doesn't work for you. If what Dr. Mercola says is true, I would suspect you are allergic to the flour in the pizza. I know I have a tendency to like that too. However, given time when you get your bs under control, you may be able to handle the pizza. I can now eat only 2 pieces of pizza rather than 3 or more. However, I don't buy it with the toppings I like. DH and DGS only like pizza with extra cheese and sauce and mushrooms. So I don't get tempted for more as long as I don't add other toppings to it.

I think I've learned a lot about myself through my experimenting. Today my fasting will be until 2 or 3. And I want to make my cut off of eating no later than 8 pm any night. This work out so that I have a at least 4 hrs fasting before I go to bed at midnight and give me a 5 hr eating window for today. It will work out this way today because DH has found a tool place here in town... God help us. We used to have to go to NC to shop at the tool place there. What is it about these men that they have to have tools they never use? Any way I will get some walking done while he looks around and then we will walk at Sam's club today as well.

Sorry, too talkative today so I will close off.

Y'all have a great day.

Shannonsnail
07-16-2014, 12:59 PM
Eeeeeeeek! They countered and we responded.....more waiting......

pattygirl63
07-16-2014, 01:36 PM
Fasted only 13 1/2 hrs since last night. FBS today is 125. Good news. :carrot: Decided to make eating window today 12:30 to 8:30. A good start.

Sorry didn't intend to hit button. Breaking fast with low carb, eggs, Canadian bacon and cheddar cheese. Drinking coffee with Stevia only. According to Dr. Mercola Stevia is a good alternative to sugar and we lose health benefits of coffee when using cream/creamers. Also he says 2 or 3 cups is good especially before exercising.

Shannon Good luck. :)

dgramie
07-16-2014, 03:01 PM
My fbs was 114 today. Know I was a bit high in carbs at dinner.
Today I had my new addiction for lunch. I love chicken salad on hearts of romaine. I truly can't get enough of it!!!
Dinner tonight will be meatloaf and corn in the cob. I will add some Cukes and sliced tomatoes to my plate.
I put up 5 bags of corn this morning. I hope to get enough put up to feed us this winter. We only eat it every few weeks.
Anyone have luck baking with Splenda ? Hubby wants a fresh peach pie.

lotsakids
07-16-2014, 03:31 PM
well, I checked my fbs this morning and it was 66! I drank good girl moonshine before bed last night (water, apple cider vinegar, stevia, and ginger) I'd heard that ACV lowers blood sugar and so far its working!



pattygirl, I got interested in IE when I read that it is actually good for diabetics. I've been doing it now for about a month. I find that doing this I have no trouble getting my exercise done (one day I waited to do my walk until after my first meal and that was hard!) I was stuck at 188- 190 for more than 3 months and I was 179.4 today. I do the 16/8 so sometimes if we eat late I adjust the next day's start meal accordingly.

Wannabehealthy
07-16-2014, 04:03 PM
Donna, congrats on the low blood sugar and the weight loss! It is all good. The 66 would have scared me, but that's not because it's too low, but more because I ran so high for so long that high seems normal to me.

There for a while I was putting ACV and lemon juice in my water bottle but I didn't notice any improvement so I got away from it.

Trish, I agree that if the 5 hour window was working for you, you should not have let the doctor sway your decision. I realize that it's his job to keep you from doing something harmful, but IMO IF is not the same as an all day fast, even though some do it. It you can limit your eating to 5 hours and not overeat, go for it. It's what works for YOU. I am the opposite of you, that I do most of my eating in the day when I am more active and very little in the evening when I'm more sedentary.

Shannon, I am getting nervous for you over the house, but since you are negotiating, I feel that you are going to get it, unless they push you to go higher than you think the house is worth. I'm so anxious to hear what happens!

I am totally screwed up right now. I think I made too drastic of a change cutting out the veggies. When I first started eating them I said that I felt as though all the nutrients was cutting my carb cravings. Well, cutting the veggies has brought my carb cravings to a head. I am replacing the veggies with starchy carbs that are not in my best interest. This morning at the grocery store I was looking for a high fiber bread and although I couldn't find the double fiber bread in my store, I found a very good Pepperidge Farms whole wheat. It was so good, I have had 6 slices already today. I KNOW I cannot eat bread. It is my trigger food. I don't know what made me think I would be reasonable about it. Just tested and I am at 232 and had to take a glimiperide, which I was trying to avoid. Tomorrow, it's back to the veggies. I will not be eating the huge servings of kale, but I will add some kale in with other veggies to get myself away from all these carbs. I learned a big less in the past couple days.

Since we ate out yesterday I will be making the tacos today. I saw some high fiber tortillas but they were larger than what we usually use so I bought the 0 fiber ones. I will put some black beans on my taco and in my taco salad. It will work for me.

Wannabehealthy
07-16-2014, 04:26 PM
I have a question for those of you who use Polaner SF Blackberry Preserves and similar products. If blackberries are already sweet, why do they need to add artificial sweetener. I don't care for the taste of excessively sweet products,. I think I would prefer a spread made just from the blackberries but can't find it other than making my own.

Liliann
07-16-2014, 04:36 PM
Donna...Great job om FBS !! That is my goal to be low in sugar level..

Carol Sue...Its tough on resisting breads...Stay strong.

Shannon...Sending good vibes on your new future home...Best wishes..

I made sauteed mushrooms with olive oil for lunch and 2 peaches for a snack..Before I ate the peaches...After lunch checked my Sugar and its 111..Golly!! The grains,bagels and carbs does hinder..and never knew about this..This will be an interesting journey. My medical doctor is really giving me the truth..and now am listening.

Enjoy your afternoon... :)

Shannonsnail
07-16-2014, 06:24 PM
Still waiting to hear back on the house, supposed to hear by 5 pm and it is about 20 min past....going nuts! LOL! I was so distracted by checking my email all day I never figured anything out for dinner. We are hoping to have a celebratory dinner out but goodness, we may not know anything before we head out at this rate.

Carol Sue I really need some SF blueberry jam for a recipe I want to make and cannot find it anywhere so I've been considering making my own.

pattygirl63
07-16-2014, 08:27 PM
We went to eat at Cracker Barrel today. Sometimes you get a bad cook or else we were eating food that had just been sitting around left. The fish had no seasoning, the mashed potatoes were old and the fried okra was too soft. I think the potatoes and okra was old. I couldn't eat half of the food. DH dumplings tasted like they were half cooked. Of course, we both had the tasteless fish. I think it was just a bad cook because we ate there a little over a week ago when we took my beautician out to eat for her birthday and it was really good. However, I have to say this was my first time to try the potatoes and haven't eaten fried okra there in years. Disappointing, but at least I ate less. :dizzy:

Donna I made homemade ice cream and some other low carb dessert a few years ago when I was more faithful to it using Splenda and I didn't like it. To me it had a bitter after taste, but then maybe I used to much. I recently made tea and used 1/2 c Splenda in a big pitcher of tea and it was not bitter but too sweet. I found I didn't need but about 1/4 c in it. So I guess unless someone else knows how to use it better, I think you will have to experiment with it. Sorry I can't help you better.

Edited to say that my eating window today was about 6 hrs. YAY!!!

Shannonsnail
07-16-2014, 09:34 PM
Ok, drum roll.......

They did not accept our counter offer but instead countered back with what they said before (basically we were in agreement on the $ but we had asked for appliances and they were not willing to leave their fridge, W&D or give us $ towards new ones). We wanted theirs bc we are tentatively planning to rent our house out but we may just sell so we can use our equity to pay down the new mortgage, we had not decided for sure. So, since we were within $2K of what we wanted to spend, we decided to accept it. But it won't be official til they sign tomorrow so there is still a chance another offer could come through before then. I will reserve my super excitement for once we are under contract!

JLUS
07-17-2014, 12:02 AM
I have a question for those of you who use Polaner SF Blackberry Preserves and similar products. If blackberries are already sweet, why do they need to add artificial sweetener. I don't care for the taste of excessively sweet products,. I think I would prefer a spread made just from the blackberries but can't find it other than making my own.

I have been taking fresh blackberries and adding the Polnar SF jam and stewing them in a pan. It mellows out the sweetness. Then we use it with plain Greek yogurt... Much better than the "fruit" mix added to yogurt. The jam thickens it just a bit so you could use it as regular jam spread.

dgramie
07-17-2014, 09:17 AM
Fbs was 103 today. I ate to much at dinner last night and then had a slice of peach pie. My numbers are lower when I eat more. We eat dinner by 5:30. Then I check my fbs about 6 am. So a solid 12 hrs later. My bs was 94 at bedtime last night.
Haven't walked in 3 days, we will walk today.
I can already hear the roar of motorcycles in the background today. We have a rally here each yr and they are expecting 20,000 this year.
We get grocery and stay home till Sunday when it's over.
I am cooking all kinds if fresh veggies and over eating. I have to get control!!

Wannabehealthy
07-17-2014, 09:24 AM
Shannon, I'm so happy for you! I think you are making a good choice by selling your house instead of renting it out. It's sometimes very hard to find good tenants. What town is this new house in? I hope they don't get another offer.

Laurie, I don't like store bought yogurt but like to add a bit of jam to home made so I can control the amount of fruit and the sweetness. Adding fresh to the SF jam is a good idea, too. Thanks!

Trish, I figured out that my eating window is around 8 hours. I usually put off breakfast until around 10AM and we usually eat supper around 4 or 5PM. I quit eating at night when I had a lot of acid reflux. I think maybe your doctor heard the word "fasting" and didn't understand what intermittent fasting is.

Dgramie, I love hearts of romaine. I just tried them recently. I like to spray them with olive oil, sprinkle with salt and pepper and cook them on my grill pan. They get some black grill marks on them. When done, I cut off the core and chop them up and drizzle on a bit of blue cheese dressing. I love the combination of the warm romaine and the cold dressing. Yum!

Today I am craving carrots and brussels sprouts. I think that will be my lunch.

pattygirl63
07-17-2014, 11:09 AM
Shannon I agree with Carol Sue it may work out better to sell your house. The wrong tenants can really tear up your house. I pray all works out in a way that is best for you and your family.

Carol Sue I think you are right. My doc is a good doctor and he always makes me feel like he is looking out for me and my DH. So I think he might have been thinking about the 5:2 IF that is so popular where you eat 5 days and do 24 hr fasts 2x a week. There was a time when I could fast and eat only one meal a day, but since I've had bs problems, that isn't even in the realm of possibility for me. At least not until I get things in control. My Daddy had a cousin who always ate one meal a day and ended up with having to have a colostemy. Sorry don't know how to spell it. Any way one time I was telling my Daddy how I could lose a lb a day if I could eat only one meal a day as I had done that before. He made me promise him that I would never do that again because he always thought that is why his cousin health problems he had. I think he was right to because, I ate that way about 12 yrs ago before I married DH. I was afraid to eat more than once a day afraid I would gain. I mostly ate salads which I later learned had no real nutrition in them. By the time I married DH, I had difficulty even buttoning my clothes so I only wore pull overs and he had to put my earring on me because I couldn't do it. Once I started eating again and eating healthy, thankfully I was able to get that back and can now do all that myself. Was not a fun lesson to learn but thank God I didn't ruin my health.

DH had some extra Glimepiride so I took one last night. I've done that before when he somehow ended up with extra just to get my fbs in the normal range. I probably won't take any more of it. Checked my fbs this morning and it was 101. Boy how I wish my doctor would give me a prescription for that. I know I probably couldn't take it all the time, but it sure would help me on days when I overdo the carbs. One prescription would probably last me for months because I would use it like you do Carol Sue. I would really love to make my eating window stop about 6 or 7, so I thinkI will set my window 11 am to 7 pm with the idea that I can stop by 6 on some days when I want to. I also plan to eat mostly fruits, veggies and protein with a small amount of starchy carbs only because I don't want to be too restrictive. Also, I found another website on Intermittent Fasting by a woman who says that strict Paleo/low carb works great for men, but that it does not always work great for women. Women seem to do better with weight loss and reap the benefits of eating some grains etc during their eating window than men do. For some reason, it seems that we kind of need a little bit where men don't. I remember reading some place when I was doing this before that for some reason women can benefit from fasting as little as 12 hrs, I think it was, where men have to have the 16 hr fast if doing it daily.

I also read another article yesterday that said there are different ways to do IF and that some people just fast long hours between their meals. I thought of people who successfully do IE who wait until they feel a grumbling or discomfort... some kind of signal that tells them it is time to eat. They probably ONLY eat when they feel the signal that they are hungry. When I first did IE, I sometimes would go up to 5 to 8 hours between meals. I made the mistake of asking how long you were allowed to go without eating because I just didn't get hungry and I was told you could never go longer than 5 hours. When I started following that rule, I lost my ability to feel hunger signals and have problems every since. Oh well. I'm back to trying to learn what works for me and I am determined this time to listen to my body.

Good to see newbies and some of you oldies who drop in from time to time. Don't stay away so long.

Y'all have a great day.

Shannonsnail
07-17-2014, 03:11 PM
I think I am more stressed out today. We have signed the final paperwork but the sellers haven't. It's all electronic so you just click a button, it doesn't take long. We are worried they are stalling bc they have another offer that is better. We need the signed contract today in order for our loan officer to start. The closing date is Aug 11 so he really wants it today. We also have to go to town (Wilson, NC) this afternoon for unrelated reasons but were going to drop off the checks needed so I don't have to make a second trip out tomorrow. Really would like to get things squared away.

My FBS was 101 today and weight down into the 177s....yay! My July goal is 173. That's my prepreg (over)weight. Went to a new grill in our neighborhood for lunch. Got a burger without bun and the only side that was low carb, green beans, but I could taste sugar in them so I will test later to see if it was ok. They had a yummy creamed spinach I sampled but I think that usually is made with flour in the sauce so I didn't think that was good. The wheat really triggers me....even more than sugar.

Wannabehealthy
07-18-2014, 10:56 AM
I finally got to eat my carrots and brussels sprouts last night. I saw that in a recipe one time and now it is one of my favorite veggie combinations. I simmer the baby carrots until they start to get tender and then add frozen brussels sprouts. After they are all tender I add a touch of butter and salt. DH picks out the carrots and only eats the brussels sprouts. That's OK. More for me! LOL

Shannon, I'm happy to hear that things are moving along with the house. Hope they signed. It can be very stressful. You are doing a great job of not letting it effect your eating plan. Woo Hoo!

Trish, I thought about you when I read this article in my current Health Magazine. (July/Aug). It says you can pick the best of each eating plan and combine it to work for you. No need to follow all the rules of any plan.

http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20824572,00.html

Shannon, I just noticed that this is my final issue of my subscription to Health. I did renew. I hope I don't miss any issues, especially if your interview is in it!

pattygirl63
07-18-2014, 11:13 AM
Shannon Hope they signed the contract so things can get moving for you. Waiting is so difficult and then the packing and move starts. But that can be fun too although exhausting. :)

Carol Sue Thanks for the site and for the idea of brussel sprouts and carrots combo. I would like that myself. I will read the article and try the combo. :D

Last night I caved and ate crackers with cheese and sandwich meat so it was more than an 8 hr eating window. I read on another low carb site and a lady who has done low carb and kept it off shared a site about protein only diet. Sorry can't remember now exactly what the name was. But you eat only protein for 30 days. It is supposed to be very healthy but I'm not sure about going 30 days without anything but protein. I had just recently read where someone mentioned people who think you don't need any other food but protein. However, I might could do a few days protein only even on alternate days to get back to a good low carb way of eating again. I'm thinking about working in a combo of it like you said Carol Sue you read. Just make up my own way of doing it. I had a sister-in-law who went a few days eating nothing but protein and she ended up passing out and was told not to ever do that again. So I am not really sure if that is a good idea especially on a prolonged time as they say after the 30 days you can go longer if you want. You are supposed to lose weight fast, less sagging etc and they think it is going to prove healthy. Research is being done on it according to the site. Curious what others think. I just think we need other foods like veggies at least. I do think I might could eat strict low carb a few days a week, but like the one lady I've watched over the years says... when you low carb and then take a binge day the results of how you feel getting back on the low carb just isn't worth it. I don't think I'm going to do it, but it is interesting.

Hope everyone has a great day.

moonkissed
07-18-2014, 11:33 AM
Thank you all for the support :hug: I have been having a very rough last few days. I think I am hitting that block where in the past I would have given up. Things are not moving fast enough, feeling overwhelmed, etc...

But I am not giving up this time. I am feeling determined again and focused. I did a great workout this morning. My FBS was 131 this morning, so not great but it could have been worse. My goal is to hit Onederland before/by my birthday sept 22. I think I can definitely do that. I just gotta stay focused.

I hope everyone else is doing well!:carrot:

Shannonsnail
07-18-2014, 01:14 PM
I will get back here later for catching up on reading and personals but just wanted to let you all know we are officially under contract! We dropped our checks off last night and signed our loan paperwork today. I've already picked up boxes from the liquor store, have found a preschool for Olivia and joined a local moms group on Facebook. We are moving!! Our closing is Aug 11.

pattygirl63
07-18-2014, 05:01 PM
Shannon YAY!!! Now you can plan and get ready for you move.

Moonkissed Good for you hanging in there and not giving up.

I didn't eat until 3 pm today which was really good and I my fbs which I checked before I started cooking was 117. So I'm pleased.

Carol Sue I found the article quite helpful. Thanks.

Valkyrie1
07-19-2014, 12:35 AM
Hi all. I don't usually post on this this thread, but I lurk. I read a post above by partygirl63,(Trish), and I wanted to write this post to tell her that there is a diet called the Dukan diet that might be perfect for her. It is the one I used to lose 60 lbs. You start out with about five days of protein, and then you go to days during which one day you eat protein, and the next you eat protein and vegetables. You keep alternating protein and protein&veggies days until you reach your goal weight. You can go to their website and read more about it. Just google US Dukan.

dgramie
07-19-2014, 08:54 AM
I wonder if all protein would be hard on the kidneys. My neighbor has lost 80+lbs doing 10 grams or less of carbs a day. I just need veggies and can't do it. She looks great and full of energy.
My fbs was 100 today. I did my walk early yesterday. My weight appears to have stalled.

pattygirl63
07-19-2014, 10:22 AM
Hi all. I don't usually post on this this thread, but I lurk. I read a post above by partygirl63,(Trish), and I wanted to write this post to tell her that there is a diet called the Dukan diet that might be perfect for her. It is the one I used to lose 60 lbs. You start out with about five days of protein, and then you go to days during which one day you eat protein, and the next you eat protein and vegetables. You keep alternating protein and protein&veggies days until you reach your goal weight. You can go to their website and read more about it. Just google US Dukan.

Thanks Valkyrie1. The problem I had with Dukan was the fat being so low. I guess Atkins has made it real to me the importance of fat in the diet. However, I will look at it again. I did think about doing it any way and not cutting the fat back so much. My problem with lowfat/fat free diets is the sodium in those foods. Thanks again.

pattygirl63
07-19-2014, 10:27 AM
I wonder if all protein would be hard on the kidneys. My neighbor has lost 80+lbs doing 10 grams or less of carbs a day. I just need veggies and can't do it. She looks great and full of energy.
My fbs was 100 today. I did my walk early yesterday. My weight appears to have stalled.

I know. That is another thing to think about. I think if I was going to do a really strict low carb, Atkins would be the only way to go and to do it exactly by the book. Start with the 2 weeks Induction and then build up the carbs until I found my carb tolerance limit. I personally believe there is a reason that Atkins warns NOT to go below 20 grams of protein.

I still haven't given up on the idea of finding a 2 week period when I could do the Atkins Induction. I just have to find a 2 week period when nothing else is going on so I can do it. Until then I just have to do the best I can.

Wannabehealthy
07-19-2014, 11:15 AM
Today I am making baked beans from dried beans for the first time. My Mother used to make them so good, but unfortunately, I cannot find her recipe, although her recipes was one thing I made certain I got when she passed away. She might not have actually used a recipe. I searched online and found a recipe that had no unusual ingredients and I am going by that. You know I am the bean queen, LOL, and when I eat baked beans I rinse off the sauce and eat them like that. The beans retain the flavor, but not all the sugar in the sauce. I just wanted to see if I could duplicate my Mother's.

I woke up in the middle of the night and my Cpap wasn't working. I tried to get it working again and then I looked at the clock and realized the electricity was out. From a battery clock I saw that it was 4AM. I looked out to see if any of my neighbors had lights, but it was 4AM in a neighborhood of mostly senior citizens. They were asleep! And being Saturday, most don't get up for work. I called the electric company and left info with a recorded message. Within 15 min the power came back on. I looked out and noticed that one neighbor had lights on, too. They have an adult daughter with Systic Fibrosis so she might sleep with oxygen and it might have shut off and they might have called the electric company earlier than I did. I'm glad it came back on because my DGS is coming for a visit today. No electricity with a 5 year old is NOT good!

Donna, we ate dinner at the casino buffet yesterday, and although I avoid carbs, I really eat too much there. When I went to bed my blood sugar was 150. Since I am trying to wean myself away from the Glimiperide, I drank some water with ACV and lemon juice, and this morning my fasting was 135. So I feel that it worked, even though it did not bring it down to normal levels. I will try to continue doing that!

Shannon, Good for you on getting the contract! This is exciting! I'm looking forward to hearing more about it.

Trish, I also have heard that eating high protein is very hard on the kidneys. I know that it's important to drink lots and lots of water while on that food plan. You could also google "dangers of high protein diet" and see what it has to say to help you make your decision. Maybe you could just up your protein and keep the veggies.

Moonkissed, the best thing to do when you are tempted to quit is to come here and get some support. We will NEVER encourage anyone to quit. We all get discouraged from time to time. You have made incredible strides.

Dgramie, it is common to have a stall in your weight loss. Just keep on going and eventually your body will get in weight loss mode again.

Valkyrie, Welcome! Don't just lurk...join in! We can always use a new perspective!

pattygirl63
07-19-2014, 04:03 PM
Carol Sue I won't ever eat protein without any veggies. I just think eating protein only for any length of time is dangerous. I have heard that people who have a tendency toward kidney stones should not eat loads of protein as a really high protein make cause the kidney stones. Too many diabetics end up with kidney problems as it is. So know I will not be doing a progein only way of eating. Besides, I think we need to eat veggies. Glad your electricity came back on.

I've been waking up early some mornings. I'm getting at least 7 hrs of sleep at night, but when I wake up, I just get up and make my coffee and enjoy sitting on the enclosed back porch early in the morning when it is nice and quiet. Will be fund to see how your homemade baked beans turn out. I was so surprised one time when looking a a recipe to find that there are sooo many different ways to make them.

I've been checking my fbs both when I first get up and then just before I start my 5 hrs eating window. I've actually been doing 5 to 6 hr eating window. It is still a fasting reading. The reading is between 130s and 145 at my early reading, but the second fbs was 117 yesterday and 109 this morning. I consider that very good.

Y'all have a great weekend.

Valkyrie1
07-19-2014, 09:43 PM
Thanks, Wannabehealthy!

Trish, some people do add fat back into Dukan. Dr. Dukan says you can have dairy that is 2 percent fat and under, so some people just go for the two percent instead of nonfat dairy. I, personally, cheated on my Dukan diet, and roasted my veggies with olive oil. (Dukan says you can have one teaspoon a day). I probably used three or four tablespoons to roast veggies such as cauliflower, etc. Every day. The diet still worked.

pattygirl63
07-19-2014, 11:43 PM
Thanks, Wannabehealthy!

Trish, some people do add fat back into Dukan. Dr. Dukan says you can have dairy that is 2 percent fat and under, so some people just go for the two percent instead of nonfat dairy. I, personally, cheated on my Dukan diet, and roasted my veggies with olive oil. (Dukan says you can have one teaspoon a day). I probably used three or four tablespoons to roast veggies such as cauliflower, etc. Every day. The diet still worked.

Thanks Valkyrie1 for sharing your experience with me. If I remember right, that was the only thing I didn't like about the Dukan diet. So I'll get my book out and re-think it. BTW :welcome3: to this thread.

moonkissed
07-20-2014, 09:28 AM
I continue to wake up early before it was 4am everyday now it is 3am... the problem isnt waking up it is that I can not fall back to sleep. Laying in bed for 3 hours is sooo not fun. I am hoping the waking up has to do with how much water I am drinking. So tonight nothing to drink after 7 and see if it helps. The fact that I am waking up the same time everynight worries me though.

Besides that...best day ever!! My FBS 115 :carrot: Today is also my weigh in day and I am down to 207.6 which is a 2.6lb loss! I jumped on the scale 3 times I couldn't believe it.

One step closer to my goal of Onederland!!!:cloud9:


Shannon :congrat::broc::cheer2: I am so happy for you!

I think I would starve to death on Dukan lol so not a big meat eater. Though that would certainly help in the weight department lmao

Wannabehealthy
07-20-2014, 09:36 AM
Good morning. The ACV water is working better for me this time than it did last time I tried it. Last night I ate a piece of DHs pizza at dinnertime, even though I KNOW how it spikes! At bedtime my blood sugar was 215. I didn't want to take the meds, so I drank a bottle of water with ACV and lemon juice. This morning I was at 130. The last time I tried it I was having a hard time with the taste of the ACV, and I wasn't adding enough. Now I add 2 tbsp and also 2 tbsp of the lemon juice. I am used to the taste now and am going to continue using it in all my water.

Trish, your blood sugars are really good! Keep up the good work! My baked beans turned out pretty good, but don't hold a candle to my mother's. I don't know what she did. Most recipes I see call for the same basic ingredients, but it different amounts. Also, I didn't have any dark brown sugar so I used light brown and added extra molasses. I will continue to search the internet until I find a recipe with a picture that looks like my mother's. I know she wouldn't have used any unusual ingredients because she would not have been able to afford them. Hers were very dark brown with lots of rich flavor.

pattygirl63
07-20-2014, 02:23 PM
I glanced at the Dukan diet this morning before going to church, but I didn't have time read much. I am going to read it again and read the principles of it. I'm just not sure about doing nothing but protein even one day a week much less every other day. I'll just have to see what I think after I read the book. One thing I see from Dukan, Atkins and other low carb diets is that there are many different ways to low carb and I can take ideas from each one to make one doable for me.

I got up this morning and I was hungry so I ate 2 scrambled eggs before I went to church. So my eating started earlier today. So not sure how today is going to go. It is easier to do the 5 to 8 hr window when I can do it at home. After church I came home and had more of a CAD lunch mainly because if I want starchy carbs, I want them earlier in the day. I've got a small steak that needs to be used for my dinner later this evening as it will be low carb. I feel like I will slowly be moving toward the low carb way of eating as my lifestyle again. One of the reasons I had a difficult time eating low carb in the springtime was that I wanted fruit. As much as I have loved being able to eat fruit this year, I can't believe that I am tired of them mainly because they just don't taste as good as they used to. I think it is because so much of it is imported.

If you can eat strict low carb and include only one starchy carb once a day and lose weight and if you can eat such a strict low carb diet like Dukan where you eat only protein one day and protein and veggies the next plus all the other varieties of low carb plans out there, then I see no reason why I can't create my own plan that I can live with. I know that my stomach will not be able to eat a day of nothing but protein because it gives me GERD. However, I really think low carb has so many wonderful benefits. So I have decided that when DGS goes back to live on campus in August and I don't have to worry about feeding him, I can take the money to do Atkins Induction. I am usually able to do AI for about a week to 10 days. If I can work toward that goal between now and when he leaves, the 20 grams limit on Induction just might be easier for me this time so that I might be able to make it the 2 weeks.

I think the most important thing about doing AI and then adding the 5 grams of carbs the way the book shows is the fact that I can learn how many carbs our body tolerates. I have finally come to realize that this is information that is important for me to know. Not only that, but according to the new Atkins books, it is also the way to "health" and "healthy living". I stood and looked at my reflection in the mirror this morning and asked myself this one question "Low carb is supposed to flatten your stomach and tone your body which you've always said you wanted one time before you leave this world, How bad do you want it?" Made me start thinking about it. Just what is it that I eat that is more important than reaching that goal. It comes down to deciding what my priorities are.

Sorry, I'm thinking out loud again.

Y'all have a super Sunday.

Shannonsnail
07-20-2014, 05:51 PM
Happy Sunday ladies! I'm sorry I've not been around much...that may be the case for the next little while but I am reading. I'm spending every spare minute purging, sorting, packing, etc. I'm trying to mostly use free boxes since it will cost us quite a bit to move - the distance is just over the max for a "local" move. So far the only place I've found any is the liquor store. They are on the small size. I've packed 15 so far since yesterday afternoon. I think we are going to rent a storage unit for a month so we can drive loads of boxes into the new town and leave them til we move. That will help decrease the moving costs since they will just weigh what the movers move (the larger items).

FBS was 100. I've been off plan since Friday evening. It's been a busy weekend, we've eaten out alot and had a birthday party to attend last night...but my levels have been ok. With the move coming up I had to move my physical up sooner so I can get everything done before then so instead of my next lab work being in Oct, it will be at end of month.

dgramie
07-21-2014, 09:03 AM
I had grandkids again this weekend. I love having them but dang I'm tired and I have my daycare kids all week long. I will be off part of next wk. I plan to do a lot of painting and things I can't do when I have kids.
Fbs was 94 yesterday and 103 today. I go back to the dr next wk and am pleased my numbers are down. I just wish my weight was down more.
Have a great day everyone.

Wannabehealthy
07-21-2014, 09:30 AM
I just ate my breakfast of a plain scrambled egg. It seemed so strange after all that time of having them with all the veggies and lentils. I was just in the mood for plain, but I did slice up half a tomato to eat with it. Now I will have my small bowl of oatmeal. This time I will remember to sprinkle some cinnamon on it.

Everyone seems to be doing well here. That's good. Shannon, I am trying to do some purging here myself, not for moving, just so there's room to live in our house! I have bought so many new cookbooks for my collection and they are on my grandson's bed. I'm going to pack them in a box until I have time to sort out my cookbooks and get rid of some I no longer want. My grandson is coming to sleep over on the 31st so his bed will have to be available for him.

I made lasagne last night for dinner. I put some frozen spinach in it and we didn't like it as much as the fresh. Today I will make pork and saurekraut. It's easy for me to eat that without any carbs so it's a good choice. Also, I just put it on to simmer and I can leave it and do something else. I hate when I have to stand at the stove.

Have a good day, everyone.

pattygirl63
07-21-2014, 10:46 AM
Well, I'm getting my Atkins book out and going to start AI today. I don't know how many days I will be doing it but I will do it until these cravings for sweets and starchy carbs goes away. Then I will begin to ease back into being more careful to eat a lower carb diet. I just haven't been able to get control of things, I feel like I'm starving all the time and wanting to eat everything in site. It is like all I want to do is eat. I refuse to let it get out of control any more than they are. So today will be Day 1 on AI for me.

Carol Sue I had 2 plain scrambled eggs yesterday morning and they were so good by themselves. After church, I came home and had 2 more with the greens, salsa, cheese and bacon. But I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed the eggs by themselves. I need to do some house cleaning around here. I want to get things cleaned up so I won't be embarrassed when the bug spray man comes in August. He usually only sprays around the house, because we haven't needed him to spray inside. However, with cold weather around the corner, I want him to spray inside maybe in August and/or November.

I don't remember if I told y'all about the kettlebells my neighbor told me about. She showed me her set of kettlebells and dvds she is getting ready to do when her finger heals that she cut the tip off of. She had me try one and showed me how to do one of the exercises. From what I understand, if done correctly the exercise is supposed to work your core. I remember the physical therapist who worked with DH after his neck surgery told us if that you don't get your core right then nothing else works right. I only did 3 of the one exercise she showed me how to do. I had what they call an explosion of energy and I was instantly sweating. I must have sweated from just the 3 moves for a good 30 to 40 minutes. I was so impressed that I went to Amazon and looked them up. I ordered the 5 and 10 lb kettlebells and 1 dvd that was highly recommended for beginners. At my age I'm not sure I'll ever use larger than a 10 lb weight. Although I saw an 82 yr old woman using a 30 lb on YouTube. I decided if she could do it, then surely I can do the smaller ones and who knows maybe by the time I'm her age, I can use a larger weight too. :dizzy: I should have them by the end of the month.

My recumbent bike is in our bedroom and DH sleeps during the morning. I can't bring it into living room because he has his regular stationary bike in here that he uses. I've been wanting something I could do in the mornings because I like doing some form of exercise at the beginning of my day and this will be a perfect way to start my day exercising and to get my metabolism revved up. I am looking forward to getting started with it probably the 1st of August if not sooner. I know that the exercise will do a lot to bring my fbs down too. In the meantime, I will work at getting my lowcarbing under control.

BBL

Shannonsnail
07-21-2014, 12:05 PM
Good luck with the induction Trish! I never did induction specifically since I never tracked but I know that first month, when I was stricter, really helped me.

Well, I did not have to adjust my signature tracker this week, first time I had no loss or gain since starting. Earlier in the week I was about 2.4 lbs lower so obviously my weekend eating put me back up. Oh well, even though I ate off my plan I was making conscious choices, not the mindless "escape" eating that the carbs used to be for me so it's a win in my book. Trying to get back on plan today....however we have a bday party tonight at dinner time with pizza. I guess I will try eating the toppings only and no cake....we'll see. I very well may have to get back on plan tomorrow instead, lol. I will eat on plan up until then though. The parties are really hard esp when they are at a meal time. When they aren't I do much better. Today's party is at a playplace that is inside a stire that sells unique beds/bedroom furniture for kids. Hoping to get a good look and maybe find something for the new house. We want to potentially use Olivia's current bed for our guest area and get her a loft bed for her new room.

Speaking of cooking/meals....I have got to get on the stick with some planning. We have been eating out more than usual lately and I want to "eat the pantry" and "eat the freezer" before we move. The freezer is almost all red meat so I guess we'll be on a red meat frenzy, lol!

Our new home inspection is this coming Saturday very early so we will drive a load of boxes down to rent the storage unit then. I am going to have to sketch out all the rooms and measure while there so I can decide where furniture will go. It's also the day of Olivia's rescheduled birthday party (later in the day).....going to be busy! I don't have anything planned today other than taking Olivia to the birthday party so I think I'm going to try to pack the boxes I have left from my last run to the liquor store and maybe go see if they have any new ones.

pattygirl63
07-21-2014, 01:25 PM
I know a lot of Atkins people have problems with the New Atkins etc, but I'm reading The New Atkins Made Easy. She says that while protein is important that it should not be over done, but to be ware of portions as too much can prevent or slow weight loss. I read this a few years ago in another book. Also she stresses that the 12-15 grams of allowed veggies are very important for weight loss. They recommend raw up to 6 cups and cooked up to 2 cups during Induction phase.

Shannon They also give guidelines so like 4 oz is the size of smart phone etc so you don't have to really track if you don't want to.

She also says you don't have to eat the fat on the meat if you don't want it which I don't like chicken or beef fat, but do like pork fat. When you cut the fat off of meat, you should make it up with your healthier fats.

I found that interesting and thought I would just share it as it might help some of us see where we may need to tweak to get the weight moving.

Wannabehealthy
07-21-2014, 02:26 PM
I believe I can live the rest of my life with my own low-carb plan I have arranged. I get to eat a small portion of carbs once in a while and that keeps me from binging. I have cut back the quantities of veggies I am eating, but am still eating a good variety at every meal. I think it's the veggies that have stopped my cravings for sweets. My carbs are in line but my portion control is not. I will continue working with that.

Shannon, you are so busy, but it's a good kind of busy because you are planning a welcome change to your life. I was wondering if the birthday party is in a location where you could order a salad. That might help you avoid too much of the pizza and cake.

Trish, I have a kettleball. I think it's 5 lb. I received a coupon as a thank-you for another purchase I made and it covered the full cost of the kettleball, so in effect, I got it free! We have a basement so I turned our gameroom into an exercise room because now that the kids are gone, no one uses the gameroom anymore. I have accumulated quite a bit of exercise equipment over the years and have sold the things I don't use anymore. Right now I don't have room for anything new, except small things like the kettle ball. I do have a TV and VHS/DVD combo in there so I can watch TV or pop in an exercise video. It works out well for me. I have no interest in going to a gym.

pattygirl63
07-21-2014, 10:20 PM
Day 1 on AI has gone well. I did have a weak moment during our main meal, but I got through it without doing anything stupid. I do believe that I ate too much protein. I had pan fried chicken wings and legs. I decided to eat 1 of the legs and save the other 2 for DGS. I had a salad and broccoli for my veggies. When I finished, I realized that I should not have eaten the chicken leg. I actually believe that overeating protein makes me want something more to eat. So I honestly believe, for me, that I should only eat a "normal" portion of protein as the new Atkins book suggests. I think I will need to do this maybe for at least a week. I still don't want to restrict my foods too much, because there are some starchy carbs I do not want to give up like corn. However, I do need the short time on AI to stop the hold sweets seems to have gotten on me. So I may need at least 1 week to get rid of those cravings. I knew I wasn't really hungry when I finished eating lunch today because I was wanting some kind of dessert.

Carol Sue I don't have any desire to go to the gym either. I also am not interested in exercising with anyone else because I like the freedom of exercising at my own pace as well as when it is convenient for me. I think I've been eating too much food, especially veggies, at one time. I am still eating enough veggies, but spread eating them throughout the day in smaller quantities. However, I don't need 3 meals and 2 or 3 snacks each day. I had my 3 meals and a snack and did perfectly fine. I had 2 eggs with a slice Canadian and a little bit of shredded cheese with sliced tomato tonight only because I am bad about wanting to munch at night and I figure that will ward off that feeling.

So far the only discomfort I've had is a slight headache which only lasted a few minutes. Hopefully I've done low carb enough that I won't experience too many bad reactions.

Goodnight. Catch y'all tomorrow.

Edited to say Carol Sue After my reaction to too much protein, I think you might be right about the veggies keeping you from being hungry for sweets. I'll have to keep an eye on that to see if it is true.

Wannabehealthy
07-22-2014, 10:11 AM
Trish, that is the effect that eating vegetables has on me, but it might be different for everyone. I just realized that the few days that I started giving up eating my kale and greens for lunch I started eating more bread and also some cakes my DH had here. I rarely crave sweets otherwise. Now that I'm come back to the veggies but with very little kale I no longer crave the sweets.

I think some people try this and when it doesn't work after a week they go back to eating sweets thinking it didn't work. But I did it differently. I added the large quantities of veggies to my normal diet while still eating the carbs and sweets. It took about 2 months of that before I noticed I no longer wanted the carbs or sweets. I did not just stop the sweets and add the veggies at the same time. I think that's what made the difference.

pattygirl63
07-22-2014, 11:08 AM
Carol Sue Interesting observation. The thing I noticed in the 1st week meal samples of Atkins (there are 2 samples one for people too busy to cook and use Atkins products and the other one you cook everything yourself which I'm using as a guideline.) Every snack does not include meat/protein as I would have thought we should. Sometimes they just have veggies like pepper strips dipped in ranch dressing. So they are really pushing the veggies.

I figure that I can eat like this most days. And I've learned from CAD and other low carbers that I can add an ear of corn or some other carb once in a while and it will not mess up my diet. I suspect that by eating more AI type days will prevent me from getting into any more binges. Until this recent binges that I have had I had not experienced in yrs. It will be nice not to have to deal with binges any more.

BBL

Shannonsnail
07-22-2014, 11:17 AM
Good morning ladies! Yesterday turned into a collassal eating frenzy. I think it was hormonal from my cycle but it was a whopper. Ready to be back on plan today....four days off is enough. Lol!

Trish if you get to feeling poorly, have some broth, supposedly that helps with the symptoms.

Last week of swim lessons. For all her drama, Olivia has really improved. Mark took her swimming this weekend and said she swam and floated in the deep end without any flotation devices! He was really impressed. She is the most dramatic in her little group but she also is the bravest. Her instructor always tries more daring things when it's her turn and tells me she's doing really well. Two lessons this week then we are done. We don't really have anything planned next week but then the next I moved her week of half day camp up bc I had to move all my dr and dentist appts up so I can do them before we move. Mark also has to travel to New Hampshire that week for just a couple days. Then the following Monday we close. Crazy!!

I've gotten connected with the MOPS group where we are moving. Olivia will be in preschool the mornings they meet but it will be the last year I can attend so I think it will be good especially since I need to meet new people. So far all my interactions with local folks have been really good, I'm encouraged.

Wannabehealthy
07-22-2014, 12:38 PM
Shannon, your closing is really soon! Sometimes they take forever. Did you decide what you're going to do about your current house?

My hands are hurting really bad today. I think I'm going to have to take some ibprofen so I can get something done.

lotsakids
07-22-2014, 06:49 PM
had an fbs of 75 this morning, I hope these numbers show up on my A1c next month!!

Still doing the 16/8 intermittent fasting, it is pretty easy and I'm not struggling on it. Went with a friend today to court. It was so hard, she is divorcing after 32 years and just needed some support there.

weight this morning 178.8

Wannabehealthy
07-22-2014, 08:01 PM
Donna, I am so curious to see what you A1c is!! Those low bs reading are really going to help. What was your A1c last time?

I also have questions about the Good Girl Moonshine. Do you use the raw organic ACV? I couldn't buy it because it looked so gross. LOL I have been using the regular ACV and just adding some lemon juice. I was reading up about the Good Girl Moonshine and some say to use lime juice instead of lemon, which I think I would like. I will use the raw organic ACV if you think I should. I will just have to find a way to get past the looks of it. Also, I don't like things sweet so I don't think I will add the Stevia. Did you every try it with carbonated water or soda water? Some people online suggested that, too. Do you use powdered ginger or do you grate the ginger root?

pattygirl63
07-23-2014, 01:58 PM
Looked up the Good Girl Moonshine on line before I went to bed and printed a couople of recipes after watching some YouTube videos of how to make it. I needed to go to the store so I went to our new Publix and got the Braggs ACV and powdered ginger. Thought I would never find the powdered ginger. Came home and made a 1/2 quart of it and drank it before I finished my fast. I will have to work on the taste. I used lemon juice rather than the lemon extract the recipe called far.

Donna Do you drink yours while fasting? Congratulations on the 178.8 and the new low FBS. Looking forward to seeing how your A1c goes.

I'm back on my 8/16 Intermittent Fasting again. I plan to drink a second 1/2 quart of the GGMS at the end of the day. I don't know if I will do a whole quart in a day this soon, but it is a goal. I read some of the benefits of the drink and I like what I see. I look forward to them. I will still do low carb altough not Atkins low carb, but more of a modified low carb way of eating plan of my own.

We decided to have sauerkraut and wieners for lunch. And I've got a turkey thigh in the crockpot for later tonight that I found at Publix. They also had swiss chard that I picked up and I will have that with the turkey. I got some veggies for salad and for eating as snacks wit my Ranch dressing. I am good to go.

FBS was down 10 pts from yesterday morning. I didn't check it before I ate or started drinking the GGMS because I'm more interested in getting my first reading of the morning lower.

Shannon You are really going to be busy for a while so do the very best you can and you will be ok. Just think of all the exercise you are getting. Hope your docs appt goes well.

Carol Sue I use the Paul C. Braggs ACV with what they call the good healthy stuff in it. If you shake it up, it won't look so bad. I heard you can't get all the benefits without if so that's why I use it. IDK if that is true, but I don't want to take any chances since I do want all the benefits.

dgramie
07-23-2014, 04:22 PM
Will reg acv work? I have a big bottle
Fbs was 106 today. I had pizza last night.
We had a shower today but really need rain bad.
My garden is still producing squash almost daily. Tomatoes are slowly ripening. I'm starting to think they are all going to come in at the same time.

pattygirl63
07-23-2014, 05:24 PM
I followed the recipe online and it was too strong for me. I will have to make it a little milder for my system, however, they did say sip it throughout the day and I believe there is a reason for that. I will not be going anywhere else today as it is really cleaning out/detoxing my system. No church tonight. :?:

Talked to my Daddy about adding the ACV to his lemon water and he had a really good idea. He said he would take a gallon jug and make it up so he can drink a little of it each day. I have a milk jug that I think I will do the same thing when we empty it. However, I think instead of 2 T of ACV, I will use 1 T for now and see how that goes and then I will drink a glass of it 1 or 2 times a day.

My 5 lb Kettlebell arrived today. DH and I watched the beginner dvd to see how to use it and I honestly believe I can do this. So I will start that in the morning. Only a few moves I will have to modify until I am able to do them. I don't think I can do squats very well, but hopefully in time I will.

If any one else decided to do the Good Girl Moonshine and you've never done it before, start slow. Don't make the batch as strong as the online YouTube videos show.

Ok, I've been wordy today and the only one here so far. Y'all have a good evening and I'll catch y'all tomorrow.

I learn so much from this thread. I really love you chickies.

Hope those of you who haven't checked in for a while are doing ok. Bonnie, Ruthie, Rennie just to name a few.

pattygirl63
07-23-2014, 05:26 PM
Will reg acv work? I have a big bottle
Fbs was 106 today. I had pizza last night.
We had a shower today but really need rain bad.
My garden is still producing squash almost daily. Tomatoes are slowly ripening. I'm starting to think they are all going to come in at the same time.

Hi Dgramie I'm not sure about the regular acv. You might google it to see what they say about it.

Wannabehealthy
07-23-2014, 08:16 PM
I just googled about the ACV and it said that only the raw organic ACV has the beneficial properties, however, because it is not pasturized it can contain bacteria. When I drank the regular ACV water it did lower my bs some, but maybe it would have gone down without it. It is also supposed to be beneficial to psoriasis but the regular has not helped any with that. The thing that I don't understand about psoriasis is, the meds they give you for it supresses your immune system, so doesn't it seem that taking something to boost your immune system would make it worse? As I understand it, my overactive immune system is what's causing the psoriasis. It's as crazy mixed up as diabetes, and I have both of them! LOL

pattygirl63
07-24-2014, 11:28 AM
Took FBS before exercise with the kettlebell and it was 157. Took another FBS right after exercising for 20 to 30 minutes and it was 144. This is the way my exercise did when I was diagnosed a diabetic the first time years ago and got bs back to normal with exercise and diet and kept it off for years. The kettlebell exercise is going to be a great help to me for getting this under control. Had one exercise I can't do because I can't balance on one foot which I knew it would be a problem. So I decided to do it but to hold on to a chair while doing it with hopes that in time I will get my balance back and be able to do it without holding on the chair. I learned yrs ago when doing Richard Simmon's Sweatin' to the Oldies that if I would do as much as I could that eventually I could do more and I finally was able to master it.

Weight is coming down again. I am 1.2 lbs from being where I was when I got home from my trip home. I've got my ACV drink made and in the fridge. I remember the ACV diet years ago where you took ACV with honey or took a ACV pill with each meal. So I've decided to drink maybe a half cup of it before each meal and build up the amount a little bit at a time.

Excited about my own plan and believe it is a good plan.

Y'all have a blessed day.

Wannabehealthy
07-24-2014, 11:28 AM
Me again. I am very disappointed in myself. We went out for dinner last night and I ordered a meal that I have ordered many times in the past. I guess due to my change in eating preferences, this meal did not taste good to me at all. I felt that I wasted my money and could have had a meal at home that would have been much more satisfying. I was so frustrated by this I also ate the rolls, which I have not been doing lately. This morning my blood sugar was 142.

Today I am making roast chicken....maybe indirect cooking on the grill or maybe beer-can chicken. I love chicken and I know this will be a tasty and satisfying meal! No bread or rolls, no pasta, no rice or potatoes.

Last night I saw an article online about psoriasis and obesity. I bookmarked it and plan on looking into this further.

Wannabehealthy
07-24-2014, 01:51 PM
Now I have something to be very happy about! The control solution I had expired this past October and I have been having trouble getting a new bottle. It finally came in the mail today and I did a test. I first tested at 147, then did the control test, and then tested at 125, a difference of 22 points. I am glad to learn that my bs reading were actually lower than I thought and no matter what I did I couldn't get a test that was near normal. I wonder about the way they do it in the hospital, testing different people all day over and over using the same meter and wonder how accurate their meters are. I realize their meters are probably much better than our home versions.

Trish, I was just reading this morning that exercise will continue to affect your blood sugar readings up to 24 hours after the exercise. It always helps mine.

Shannonsnail
07-24-2014, 01:57 PM
I have been off the wagon since last Friday. It always starts out innocently, one meal, usually when we are out to eat and usually when I've been on plan and am feeling good about my progress. Then the next day I plan to be back on track but something else comes up and so on til it ends up in full blown high carb bingeing within a couple days. Everytime. I have learned that eating low carb high fat, for me, is the only thing that keeps the binge eating beast in the closet but yet every week or so I get confident that I can now make better choices, I've evolved, changed.....but it is just a lie because as soon as I allow the off plan item/meal, it sets in motion the unlocking of that beast. I want to lose more weight and I want my BS levels to be good but more than either of those combined, I want to feel in control of my eating and when the beast is loose, I lose all control and I hate that..... Deep thoughts by Shannon....

Wannabehealthy
07-24-2014, 03:11 PM
Shannon, that sounds exactly like me. I think we all have the same battle with carbs. It would be nice if we could all learn to enjoy them in small quantities. Maybe someday we will!

Is anyone still using their Vegetti? I didn't use mine again after that first time but I got it out again today. I used 1 zucchini on the smaller blade, put it in a saute pan with some olive oil, salt and pepper. I just cooked it a bit so it was still crunchy. I have never tasted pesto but I bought a small jar of it and wanted to try it. I put some of the zucchini strands on a plate and sprinkled it with parmesan cheese. Then I added a couple spoonfuls of the pesto to the pan with the remaining zucchini. Both were great, but I think zucchini with pesto is my new go-to lunch. It is so low calorie and low carb and tastes delicious. I would like to make my own pesto someday so I can avoid the preservatives, but I don't know if I ever will because I don't know if I would be able to make a small quantity and I don't know if it can be frozen. Try it, you'll love it!

lotsakids
07-25-2014, 01:16 AM
Carol Sue yum pesto and zuchinni, I want to go get some pesto sauce pronto. I love my vegetti thingy bopper. I like the "noodles" just warmed, because of the slight crunch. I put butter and garlic on them, so yummy.

ACV - I use the Braggs ACV. I shake it before I use it so the stuff is all mixed in. I started with one tablespoon but now I use two and I blend the ginger a little water and the vinegar in my bullet before adding it to my quart mason jar (after all, moonshine should always come from a mason jar LOL)
my a1c was 7 at diagnosis and 7 at my last check. Which means I'm averaging at about 154 I'm not seeing those numbers but who knows I may be spiking at odd times.

178.0 today!!

dgramie
07-25-2014, 08:54 AM
Fbs was 82 today!! Woohoo.
I know I didn't eat enough yesterday. I had an upset stomach. I have to lay off fresh veggies for a bit.
My tomatoes are just now coming in. I see a BLT in my future.

Wannabehealthy
07-25-2014, 09:28 AM
I was online most of the evening reading about the relationship between obesity and psoriasis. I know that psoriasis is an autoimmune disease where your skin cells reproduce faster than your old skin cells slough off and it makes your skin raise up and turn red and scaly. The actual cause is still unknown and there is treatment, but no cure. There are so many theories thrown out there and it seems that different people have different triggers. After reading this stuff about obesity, they say that most people who have psoriasis are obese. In trials, some people have eaten a low cal low fat diet of 800-1000, lost weight, and had improvement. I don't know if I could do 800-1000 cals. Not going below 1200 is so ingrained in my mind and for me, a GOOD day is rarely under 1200 not to mention when I fall off the wagon. But I can honestly say that my PS started around the time I started to gain weight. It never went into remission until after I had my abdominal surgery and lost weight. I thought it was due to some meds they had me on, or the fact that they removed an ovary which would change the hormone balance of my body but maybe it WAS the weight loss. Now I have gained back that weight I lost after surgery, and the PS is back.

A while back I read where PS was related to heart disease, which I have, and now they are saying that PS, heart disease, diabetes, metabolic syndrome all go hand in hand. They also say that beriatric surgery clears up both PS and diabetes, but I am in no way interested in taking that drastic step. I keep saying that PS is not life threatening, but if it goes along with heart disease and diabetes, maybe it is. I am going to continue reading up on this today. Maybe if I could find my missing link with weight loss I could improve both my diabetes and PS. If I lose weight and still have the PS at least I will be thinner! LOL People say you are born, you live and then you die. But your body goes through so much during that process. It's amazing!

Dgramie, I love tomato sandwiches, just with salt and mayo, but all that bread just kills me. I can't do it anymore. It screws up my blood sugar AND my weight.

Donna, You have a new Avatar picture and a new hairdo! Beautiful!

Are you actually diagnosed with type 2 or prediabetes? I don't remember. For me, 7 is not a bad A1c. My doctor is usually happy as long as I don't go over 7, but we are both happier when I'm in the 6s. I don't know when you test, but I would think that your highest is within 3 hours after a meal. I was in the hospital recovering from heart surgery when I was diagnosed and I don't know what my A1c was then. No one told me and I didn't know to ask.

pattygirl63
07-25-2014, 11:34 AM
Donna Love the pic. You are looking good. I wondered if I could use my bullet to mix the ACV drink. .I will try it next time. Sure would mix the ginger powder into it better. I think my A1c is going to be a 7 this time. The sad this is that it was 6.2 at my last visit. I'm just going to tell my doc that I knew it was afraid it was going to go up and be that way if he didn't let me have the glimepiride during my trip. Now I feel like I'm back at square one again.

Carol Sue That is interesting about the PS, because my sister has had it for years and she was thin. I guess there is always that one exception. I get rashes but not PS. I've about decided from the way it clears up when I do a strict low carb that it is caused by wheat products.

My 1st FBS before exercise was 157 and after the exercise which turns out to be between 15 to 20 minutes workout with warm up and 1 circuit as she calls it was 140. So I believe that was good. FBS would be better if I hadn't been too lazy to cook last night. I ended up eating too many carbs and it showed up with a rash last night and today because it was a lot of wheat. Had a note from DH this morning when I got up telling me not to overdo the exercise... he doesn't want me to pull anything. But I am careful only doing the warm up and 1 circuit. There are 3 circuits on this dvd that I will eventually do, but I will only do the 1 until I get better at it and able to do the positions better. I'm not setting any time goals, but just listening to my body to tell me when I'm ready to go to 2. I really feel good after doing what I'm doing. I may add my bike again tomorrow or next week. I plan to do the kettlebell exercise at least 4 to 5 days a week Mon-Friday and haven't decided whether I will do more than 3 days on the bike yet. That would give me a good 40 to 45 min exercise at least 3 days a week and I know from past experience that doing that much exercise really pulls the FBS down quickly. That is how I overcame this and got it under control about 20 yrs ago. I thought it was nice that DH wrote in his note that he was proud of me having the guts to even try this. :) Made me feel empowered. LOL

I've about decided that I need to buy some Atkins dinners and put them in the freezer for those times when I don't want to cook something just for me. Then I will not not have any more mistakes like last night. As they say, if you don't prepare to succeed, you are prepared to fail. So I'm going to have to make better plans to succeed.

Well, busy day today. Lots of walking which will be a good plus to my exercise.

Y'all have a nice weekend Chickies.

lotsakids
07-25-2014, 04:48 PM
I was dx'd with Type 2 with an A1c of 7. I should be happy that I've maintained it but I just wish it had gone down. At my last appt the labs also said I had protein in my urine. We are retesting that too. In addition I have high blood pressure (its fine when I'm medicated) and gout (the meds changed my life) so they said it is metabolic syndrome ie bad genes.

I thought it was time to change the picture, new hair and all that :)

dgramie
07-25-2014, 08:28 PM
I found low carb crunchy taco shells tonight. I am in love. La Taria brand. Thin and crisp. Good corn flavor and only 40 calories and 4gm of carbs. I am already planning on fixing up some chicken for next wk lunches. Oh and gluten free.

Shannonsnail
07-25-2014, 08:29 PM
Took the first load of boxes I have packed to the new town and rented a storage unit. Tomorrow is the home inspection and I will be able to check out everything in detail to prepare for the move since the sellers will not be there. Our appraisal came back fine, all the loan paperwork is complete by the bank and ready for closing. Things are moving along.... Still trying to get back on track but it's getting better.

Wannabehealthy
07-26-2014, 08:29 AM
Shannon, things are definately moving fast for you! Are the owners already moved out? I was at a disadvantage when we bought this house because we moved in within hours of the owners moving out. When our truck arrived I was still at the old house, so I never got to see our house empty. Luckily the former owners were very clean and we didn't have any problems with that. It was move-in ready. We had no choice about that because we had already sold our old house and we needed to get out. Hope the inspection goes well and there are no surprises.

Donna, my recent lab work showed protein in the urine too but he said it was very small amounts. I think that has something to do with the low carb diet. An increase in water consumption should take care of that.

What meds do you take for gout, if you don't mind my asking. My brother-in-law and son-in-law both have gout.

Dgramie, where did you find those low carb taco shells? I saw some, but they weren't the ones I was looking for. I have to keep in mind that DH will be eating them too so they have to be something he will eat. Picky eater. I will look for that brand. I don't really care about the gluten. I don't think I am gluten sensitive.

dgramie
07-26-2014, 09:32 AM
Carol sue - I found the shells at food giant.
Hubby seems to have protein in his urine only when his a1c is above 7. His dr says it's caused by uncontrolled blood sugar. He is working hard to make sure it stays gone. He was put in lisinpril (low dose blood pressure pill) to protect his kidneys and lower protein. He doesn't need it for high blood pressure.

Heading out to walmart and lunch out. I will eat lite. My stomach is so much better since eating lite. Fbs was 94 today. I am pretty excited to see lower numbers.

love2b150
07-26-2014, 10:11 PM
Just wanted to update.

I'm doing well. With all of the movement I get in daily and eating only what I pack for lunch during the day and eating a lite dinner before bed my fbs has been between 95-108. Twice this week it was under 100. I was shocked and oh so happy.

Take care everyone :hug:

Shannonsnail
07-26-2014, 10:58 PM
Carol Sue the owners have not moved out and in fact they haven't packed a single box! They make me nervous :dizzy: closing is scheduled for Aug 11 and our movers come Aug 16 so we do have time to clean, etc....thank God! The home inspection went well but it was very awkward bc the sellers said they would be gone but the wife was at home the entire 3 hrs sitting in the main living area. The inspector found a few things but mostly it is in good shape which I expected since it's only 8 yrs old. I felt uncomfortable but took most of the measurements I needed in the rooms.

Rennie, sounds like the new job is really helping your BS levels! We miss hearing from you! We need to plan our "date" before I move :D

We were up super early to get to the home inspection at 8:30, were there til 11:30, dropped off at the storage unit, stopped for lunch then got back on the road to home. Got home and had just enough time to shower before Olivia's rescheduled birthday party this afternoon. That turned out really good. Still not on track, soon hopefully....not going to meet my July goal...nope, not happening, lol.

moonkissed
07-27-2014, 08:21 AM
I have been having a bad week and surprise it turned out to be PMS because TOM showed up lol. I have PCOS so it was a surprise. I guess my meds (metformin helps with pcos too) + diet & exercise are working so yay. :carrot: But it has thrown me for a loop. Mad cravings for all things I should not be eating. I think I did better then I could have but not great. I am still struggling, I feel like I have to constantly remind myself that this does not equal a free pass to eat whatever I want.

My FBS was 128 this morning but I woke up feeling jittery and shaky. IDK why. My DH suggested I just eat right away anyways.

Yesterday though I was out shopping and felt dizzy & light headed I knew my BS must be low. Tested as soon as I got home and it was 101! My lowest so far. And low enough compared to my norm to make me feel hypo.

I hope everyone is having a great day!

Wannabehealthy
07-27-2014, 11:02 AM
Rennie, glad that you found a job and your eating is going so good for you. YAY on the blood sugars! We do miss you though. Come back and see us when you can.

Moonkissed, I was getting a lot of hypo symptoms while I was lowering my blood sugar too. It's just your body reacting to the change. My blood sugars have been up lately and I don't know why. I am probably getting lazy with my meals selections and sneaking some carbs in without realizing it. I'm not sleeping well, and many times that's caused by my BS being too high. I get nervous when my BS goes below 100. I keep thinking I'm going to have a low.

Shannon, sounds like things are going well. I'm wondering if the seller was afraid to have all of you in her house when she wasn't there. I'm like that...very territorial when it comes to my home.

Olivia sure has a lot of birthday parties! LOL Is she going to feel strange living in another house?

Dgranie, Food Giant is not in our area. La Taria must be only in your area because I could not even find any information by googling. I might be looking in the wrong section of the store. I will have to start looking in the Gluten-Free section. I know I saw them in the dairy case years ago. Mexican food is not a big thing in our area so the selections in the stores are few.

Shannonsnail
07-27-2014, 10:50 PM
Carol Sue yesterday was Olivia's only 4 yr bday party. We had to cancel it a month ago when she got strep, this was the reschedule. The other parties have been for other kids' bdays! There have been 3 in the past couple weeks. I don't think we have anymore til after we move and she has new friends. She is excited about moving but I imagine once we actually move she will have a period of transition that might be rough.

Wannabehealthy
07-28-2014, 10:37 AM
Shannon, I didn't mean that these were all Olivia's birthday parties, I meant she had a lot of parties to attend! LOL I should have added that to my sentence before. When we moved into this house the kids were in LA visiting their mother. We always said that we sent the kids on vacation and while they were gone, we moved away, but they found us. LOL It really helped not having them around on moving day. They were older (preteen) and really missed their old friends, but as soon as school started back they made new ones.

I wonder where Trish is. Did she mention going away?

pattygirl63
07-28-2014, 09:23 PM
Carol Sue I'm still here. Having a difficult time getting control. I always start out good and end up screwing up at lunch time. Weight is up which may mostly be water weight, but I hate it. I took one of DH glimiperides last night. Woke up feeling crappy so decided to get up and check fbs and it was 77. Felt terrible all morning. Checked bs before lunch because I felt so bad (I've been starting out with AI each day). BS was 87. So I ate carbs (crackers) for lunch. 3 hrs later bs was 177 and even tonight I still feel crappy. I'm sure some of the feelings may have even been more like what is called the Atkins flu, but my bs was so low for me because of the glimiperide and it wasn't getting any better and it kind of scared me.

I'm back OP tonight. Guess you could say that this ended up being a CAD day, but I still consider it a failure day because I was going for modified Atkins day. And I failed at that. Hopefully after a good nights sleep, i will feel better and I will try to do more of an Atkins woe again tomorrow.

pattygirl63
07-29-2014, 09:32 AM
Good Morning, Chickies,

Still not up to par, but feeling better than yesterday. I've decided that although I'm back where I started with weight too high and fbs back up to 145 this morning that I would rather do this slower without the meds like glimiperide. I just don't care for the quick low effect. So will work at getting back to eating healthier and exercise. Didn't feel like exercising yesterday and not sure about today. But will get back to it.

I am back to counting calories because I am going to keep the fruit in my way of eating. Also will have occasional grains but not often. I'll work at not having them regularly. I guess I am going more Primal/low carb.

Hope everyone has a good day food wise including me.:dizzy:

Wannabehealthy
07-29-2014, 09:35 AM
Trish, I would not take the glimiperide at night because you could get a low while you're asleep and not know it. Sometimes, I only take a half. 77 isn't dangerously low, but it also scares me. My bs has been bad lately and I'm also gaining weight. I'm not happy right now. My psoriasis is itchy as all heck and my hands hurt. I'm falling apart. When I had my bowel surgery the surgeon told my husband that he didn't think I was going to make it and right now I wish I hadn't. Don't panic. I'm not going to do anything stupid. Just not in a very good frame of mind right now. I think I need to have a little talk with the guy upstairs.

Shannonsnail
07-29-2014, 11:18 AM
Aww Carol Sue, I just want to come hug you! That would frustrate me too. I will say a prayer for you!

All this packing, trips out of town and stress over whether this move is really going to happen is about to put me over the edge. I can't get back on plan completely bc I don't have the time I used to have for cooking and I'm just eating whatever I am able to throw together. Yesterday I ate cereal for the first time in 4 months :dizzy: Hubby says "no, you can't give up, you have to keep on for your BS levels". I agree but it's just not happening right now. So, I'm not giving up but I'm not really eating low carb at every meal anymore and I'm not going to steess too much about it. My blood draw is Friday, it probably will not show as much improvement as I was hoping but at least my weight loss will show so hopefully my dr will still be pleased. I will need to find a new dr by end of year but this draw and appt will buy me some time to do that.

The latest drama is waiting on some quotes so we can decide what to say to the sellers about the home inspection. It was mostly good but a couple things we feel it is right for them to take care of, the main thing being a safety issue with the decking. I think they will refuse (just the feeling I get from the wife's personality from interacting with her during the inspection). If they refuse I think my husband is ready to walk from the house on principle. I will follow what he thinks is best, it's just stressful to me since I withdrew Olivia from preschool here already and registered her there, have cancelled several other things here, have moved two loads of our belongings to storage there, etc.

We are headed to a playdate so I will check back later.

pattygirl63
07-29-2014, 11:45 AM
Carol Sue :hug: I know how you feel. Right now I feel like a failure, but we are NOT failures unless we allow this to derail us and we give up. We have done this before and together WE ALL on this thread CAN DO IT AGAIN.

I know there are some things I'm not going to give up so I'm just going to incorporate them into my eating plan. We both like beans and feel they are important for us and on some low carb type of diets they are allowed. I feel the same way about fruit. So I believe we just have to work out a plan where we include them. If that means counting calories for me, then I will just have to count them.

My latest culprit has been sugar and flour in the form of 1 doughnut each day. I know have the warning sign of a rash under my right breast that tells me that I better stop it. Today is my 1st day back OP.

Shannon I'm sorry about all the stress with the house and the move. I pray things will begin to go in your favor. Your DH is right. Just don't give up when it comes to taking care of yourself and you bs. I still believe eating the best way you can will work in your favor. You have done so well.

Well, I'm thinking maybe we should all pray for each other since we all seem to be having a tough time of it. I know the Lord will help us if we just ask and trust Him to do so.:hug:

Wannabehealthy
07-29-2014, 01:21 PM
Good Morning, Chickies,

Still not up to par, but feeling better than yesterday. I've decided that although I'm back where I started with weight too high and fbs back up to 145 this morning that I would rather do this slower without the meds like glimiperide. I just don't care for the quick low effect.


Trish, this made me laugh, because this morning my FBS was 179. I took my metformin and glimiperide and ate breakfast of 2 eggs and 2 slices of my lite bread toasted. I figured the glimiperide would take care of the carbs in it, and it is higher fiber whole grain. Two hours later my bs was 188. So much for a "quick low effect." I took another half pill and now, two hours later, it's at 158. Coming down, but not a quick drop. I think if it's giving you a quick drop, then you probably don't need it. I ate some sugar snap peas for lunch as I usually just do veggies for lunch and I'm making chili with beans for dinner. I'm hoping to have my blood sugar below 120 by dinner time. It's been above 150 for the past couple days. I need to get it down and then stay away from the carbs to keep it there! Staying away from the kale isn't doing anything for my psoriasis, so I might as well go back to eating it, because at least that keeps me from craving the carbs. This is a bunch of CRAP! I do have one thing that I am very thankful for. The PS is not on my face or neck. Mostly it is covered with clothing and I use moisturizer to camaflage it. I want it gone, along with this fat belly. If I can have that, I will learn to live with the painful hands.

Shannon, I sure would welcome that hug!!! It seems that all 3 of us are going through the same trials at the same time, just for different reasons. I think your weight loss is a big plus, as overall, it will effect your blood sugar in the end. You are headed in the right direction.

I understand how your hubby feels about the things they found with the inspection, and I understand how you feel about getting this far and then backing out of the sale. But you all have to be satisfied. This is going to be your home. If it is a safety issue, you have a young child to worry about. I think no matter who buys the house they are going to have to correct the issue. Maybe if the sellers realize they are going to lose the sale they will see things your way. I will keep you in my prayers.

pattygirl63
07-29-2014, 03:23 PM
Interesting bs reading. My fbs was 145 this morning. I had my coffee with French vanilla Coffemate ( use the little tubs for portion control) with Stevia and coconut oil. Made an Atkins shake with 1/2 banana and 2 strawberries. Had 2 more c of coffee throughout the morning same as with the shake. I also drank some of the ACV/lemon/ginger drink. Checked bs just before lunch and it was 95. My highest reading yesterday was 3 hrs after lunch. I'm having an Atkins Sesame chicken stir-fry frozen dinner for lunch. I will check bs 3 hrs after to see how it does.

Carol Sue Yesterday I thought of you when I had the Atkins frozen chili with beans for dinner and I loved it. It is going to be one of my favorite meals.

I also liked their Crustless chicken pot pie I ate the night before last. So far the only Atkins meal that I don't like is their Swedish meatballs. Not sure what the spice is that I don't like in it, but I think it was ginger. I like ginger, however, I think the problem might just be the fact that it tastes like they used too much of it. I'll have to see if I can find a different low carb recipe I can make of my own as it is one of my favorite foods. Oh also for those of us who do low carb, but not AI, I notice that they do use carrots in their dinners which will be helpful when I start making some of my own low carb meals. If nothing else, these frozen dinners are helping me to learn how to cook better low carb meals.

My DH never has understood my always wanting to learn to eat low carb. Today, I showed him the rash I have under my right breast and told him, "Now you know why it is important for me to learn to eat low carb". I don't think he will question me about it any more. And with the help of my meter to see the result above, I believe I am also finding my incentive to do it.

Perhaps sharing my experience with all of you will help me too.

Carol Sue You know I also remember my doc saying he didn't want to put me on glimiperide because it would cause me to gain weight instead of losing. Maybe there is something to that after all. We will do this.

pattygirl63
07-29-2014, 06:51 PM
Just checking in to say that my bs 3hrs after the Atkins Sesame chicken and 1 oz cashews for dessert was 107. I've learned that my highest bs reading is usually 3 hrs after so I am very happy with this.

I'm taking the leftover cornish hen and adding a snap green peas frozen stir-fry and soy sauce (I'm starting to love soy sauce) to make a stir-fry and having a nice salad with it. I have a polish sausage with string cheese planned for a snack later if I need it. I'm starting to feel pretty good.

Catch y'all tomorrow.

Wannabehealthy
07-30-2014, 10:30 AM
Yesterday, before dinner, I only got down to 132. Two hours after dinner I was at 166 and was disappointed, but at 3 hrs I was at 114! I think the beans in my chili caused my digestion to be a little slower. Then I made a fatal mistake. I had a snack before bed. I cooked some mixed vegetables, which I love, but they contain carby veggies, corn, carrots and peas. My fbs was 156 this morning. I know from past experience that I am NOT one who can eat a snack before bed as they suggest. I can only have a low FBG if I go to bed on an empty stomach. A low BS reading makes me think "I can eat something!" when I'm better off it I just eat my meals.

Today we are going to the funeral home in the afternoon, then to my son's to watch my grandson so they can go. The woman who passed away was a neighbor from the old neighborhood. She worked in the school cafeteria so she was home when the kids were home. Since our kids were latch-key kids they always knew they could go to her house in an emergency. Our kids were always locking themselves out of the house and they knew they could go to her house to use the phone, use the bathroom and sometimes she gave them lunch if they were locked out. We have since moved away (10 miles) but my kids are still in touch with her kids and they are heartbroken. She was everybody's Mom. So far they have never been faced with the death of someone close to them. It has always been older relatives. Now they are in their 40s so the people passing away are some they were close to. It's a different feeling. Lately it seems that we have a funeral once a month.

We will be going to eat somewhere before we go to son's house rather than coming all the way home. I will have to think of what I can eat at various places. I can only think of one place where I can order good fish. I'm not too familiar with the other restaurants in the area.

Trish, my DH is potato king. He loves potatoes and usually wants them every day, and also sweets. He says you will never get fat eating potatoes, because HE never gets fat. He does not eat much bread though, and that is my worst food for weight and BS. When I was first diagnosed in 2008 he got mad every time I tested because he said I was NOT diabetic. He is now starting to understand. He has seen one neighbor lose her eyesight and her husband lose some toes due to diabetes. He told me that if he was ever diagnosed he would NOT take any meds or test. He said he would change his diet and exercise and do whatever it takes to keep his BS normal. That's so easy to say when you are not in that position. I hope that never happens because he will never quit eating his potatoes or sweets.

I'm glad things are going so well for you, Trish. I hope I'm not far behind.

pattygirl63
07-30-2014, 11:45 AM
My fbs was 134 this morning. Bedtime bs was 141. I don't understand how it can be so good throughout the day and be high like that at bedtime and fbs. My doc once told me that 1st we get the fbs under control and then we work on the readings throughout the day. But my readings throughout the day are good. It is the fbs and the bedtime readings that are higher. So confusing.:?: Anyway according to all I've read, if I keep up what I'm doing with low carb it will eventually all balance out.

Carol Sue I was very tired when I took the bedtime reading. I decided to go to bed because that is when I sometimes cave in and have a snack. When I saw the 141, I knew from previous experience that if I had a bedtime snack that it would make my fbs higher in this morning. I chose to just go to bed. DH saw me checking all day and asked why I was checking so much. I explained that I had been very careful to low carb all day and I was checking at various times to see how my bs readings were because I wanted to know for sure that it really works for me. I told that I wouldn't have to check it like that everyday once I know how it affects my bs. So I can't eat a bedtime snack before bedtime either. Plus since I don't eat one, I notice that I am sleeping better. I still wake up to go potty but not as often.

The interesting thing about Tony is that his 1st wife died from diabetic complications. She lost toes and was blind. If she had survived her heart surgery, she would have lost her legs. He and she talked and being a Christian, she chose to have them pull the plug and let her go on to Heaven. One of the things I promised him before we married was that I would do my best to take care of myself so he not I would have to go through that type of situation again. My previous hubby didn't have diabetes that we know of, but he did have CHF. While I don't want him to go through that situation again, I don't want me to go through what she did. Thus I continue to work at getting this thing under control. It is just so confusing. For a long time he could not understand why she didn't do what she needed to do to get the bs under control. I've seen home movies of her and what she ate in them and Tony's Mother used to tell me about making diet foods for her. So I've tried through the years to explain to him that she it wasn't her fault because she followed the ADA diet that they provided for her and that all those carbs are what killed her. Sometimes I think he still doesn't understand it because I see what he eats. I hope I can get this way of eating working for me so I can be an example to him and my daughter who is diabetic and insists that she is eating right because she follow the diet her doctor tells her to follow which is the normal diabetic diet.

Weight is coming back down again slowly. Darn it, why is it that it can go on sooooo fast and come off so slow. I'm not sure how many carbs I ate yesterday, but my calories were right around 1600 which from what I understand isn't bad for low carbing. The protein and fat was higher than MFP recommends, but it is supposed to be so not concerned about that either.

Carol Sue Good luck eating out today. I am going with my beautician tomorrow to the doctor. She has a cyst and isn't sure if he will do anything tomorrow or not. I've heard he probably won't, but she has no family here so I'm going with her. We will probably eat out after especially if he doesn't do anything. I don't know much about where the doctor's office is because it is in the next town over from us and I'm hoping we can eat somewhere where I can stay OP. If I can stay OP today and tomorrow without having to throw in a CAD day, I will have 3 days OP. We can do this friend. We just have to take it one day and some times one meal at a time.

Shannon Hope things are going good for y'all on the house and you are able to figure out how to not let the stress derail you. You have done great.

Rennie It was good to hear from you. I didn't mean to ignore you. I was just so upset with myself. Glad you have a new job that is going good for you and your eating plan.

Donna, dgramie, moonkissed and others reading :wave:

Have a great day!!!

dgramie
07-30-2014, 12:04 PM
Fbs was 82 today. I am pumped about it. I worked my tail off yesterday so I'm sure it was from a low carb day and lots of exercise.

pattygirl63
07-30-2014, 01:34 PM
Fbs was 82 today. I am pumped about it. I worked my tail off yesterday so I'm sure it was from a low carb day and lots of exercise.

That is great dgramie. So very happy for you. Hoping that Carol Sue and I aren't too far behind you.

Wannabehealthy
07-30-2014, 03:45 PM
My day isn't going as planned. This morning DH told me that he wants to go to the funeral home early. So now we are back home and he's already asked what's for dinner. I guess he didn't like my plan of going later. We don't really have time for me to make something before we have to leave for his son's house so I guess we will go somewhere nearby. It's an hour's drive to his sons, and we were already 1/3 of the way there at the funeral home. Oh well, DH does what he wants to do and I just go along with him. I know the menus of all the restaurants around our house so I won't have trouble avoiding carbs. When I was first diagnosed I was able to follow the diet the doctor had me on. I was eating 1800 calories a day and 5 carbs per meal, but that's when I learned how small a portion of carbs actually is. I had an egg, a slice of toast, a bowl of oatmeal and fruit for breakfast. For lunch I had a portion of protein, veggies, fruit and a dinner roll, and the same for dinner. I was allowed sugar free jello and crackers and cheese at bedtime. I had milk at each meal, and that counts as a carb. I think the milk helped me loose weight, but I don't drink it now. I probably should. I kept my blood sugar down and lost weight on that diet. After I came home from the hospital I gradually started eating larger portions and all heck broke loose!

Dgramie, you are doing very well with your bs. Hope your DH is doing the same!

pattygirl63
07-31-2014, 10:08 AM
Carol Sue Don't you just love how these hubbies can change our plans on a dime? Mine does that to me all the time. There have been times that he did this to me and we end up someplace where I can't work out a low carb meal and just have to do the best I can.

Interesting thing yesterday which may be a new thing to look at for me. I started back to small groups Bible study last night. I usually eat my dinner between 6 to 7:30 pm. Our meeting is at 7 pm. I wasn't hungry and decided to eat when I got home. I had to go to Walmart after the meeting to pick up a prescription and a few groceries. So it was like 9 before I even got home. I am hooked on Atkins frozen Chili Con Corne so I had picked up 2 of them while at the store. It is almost like eating a chili dip with beans and I have a tendency to want chips with it or even crackers so I decided to pick up some pork skins to eat with it. I came home and had a serving with it.

When I went to bed, I realized that when I got home, I was starving. Of course, normally I would never have waited until I was hungry to eat that late that is the reason I always have a dinner at least by 7 pm so I don't eat late. 3 things I noticed by this experience #1 I was starving (hunger signal) when I ate probably around 9:30 once I got groceries put away and changed clothes. #2 I ate only the 1 serving of chili and a small amount of pork skins which I've never eaten a small amount of them. #3 I was perfectly satisfied. That is what IE teaches you to do and guess what? My FBS was 128 this morning.

I'm re-thinking all this. #1 I read somewhere on line where a doctor said there are many ways to do Intermittent Fasting and he said one is where you wait hours between meals instead of eating a bunch of small meals or fasting 24 hrs etc. Intuitive Eating tells you to eat only when you are truly hungry, eat what you really want (I was almost craving the chili dinner) and eat until satisfied. Interesting experience to say the least.

I'm ending this month with a gain of .6. I will have to change my ticker later today.

Taking friend to doctor today so I am headed out with a day where I'm not sure what it will bring with it eating wise or anything else. Depending on where we end up being able to eat, I may end up with a Carbohydrate Addicts Diet's carby type meal.

Y'all have a good one. Remember WE CAN DO THIS!!!

BBL

Wannabehealthy
07-31-2014, 11:53 AM
We ended up going to a local restaurant where we each got an angus burger. I got mine with lettuce, tomato and onion, no bun, and DH got his with bacon but gave me his lettuce, tomato and onion. He ate the bun and had french fries on the side. I had cole slaw. I normally don't like restaurant hamburgers, but if it's an angus burger it tastes like meat and I like it. When I came home from babysitting I tested and was at 144, but I was at 126 this morning. It's heading back to normal, so I'm happy. It's very unusual for my AM fasting to be lower than at bedtime. I had my scrambled eggs with mushrooms for breakfast and have a pot roast defrosting for dinner tonight. I haven't been on the scale lately because I feel fat. I will weigh again when I think I've lost. LOL

I too like when I'm out and about doing things and I forget about food. My stats are always so much better. When I was still working I did a lot of snacking at work and I thought I would really lose weight after retiring, but I still eat, I just don't eat snack food. But food is food and calories are calories. Even though I had a desk job, I probably moved more at work than I do at home.

My DIL is very weight/health concious. There was NO snack food in their house last night when we were babysitting. LOL Even my 5 year old grandson snacks on veggies, yogurt and cheese sticks. He IS allowed a brownie if he eats a good dinner. But it's very surprising to see him grabbing pepper and celery strips!!

Shannon, I hope you have good news for us today!

Our thread is starting to slow down again. Come on! Don't let our gabbiness scare you away!! We want to hear from all of you!!! I can SEE you...I know you're out there lurking. LOL

Liliann
07-31-2014, 06:49 PM
Hello Ladies...

Dgraime..Good work on the low FBS..It seems low carb plan works for you and hoping it continues staying stable. :)

Sounds like we all struggling and good to know am not alone. I gave up low carb last week, was dealing with consitpation with low carb...So I am now eating whole grains instead. My FBS is high and low...Last week it once hit at 94 without any eating...and once I am back eating normal..its slowly giving me a different reading..This morning was 113..

I need to do more movements and drink plenty of water..but been busy lately and I do 30 min walking, but could do more.

I wish I can do low carb if was giving me issues with bowel problems.

My food choices for today was lousy..ate pizza..about 7 small slices..No walking..just 20 min walk to get the darn pizza.

I am reading and thinking of all of you...Finding the right plan to beat or prevent diabetes..It scares me now and worried about my FBS readings to go down. I even splurged on cookies and ice cream...Ugh!!

Have a good one and stay strong ladies...:hug:

zinkemomx2
07-31-2014, 10:34 PM
Hello everyone.

My name is Billie. You can call me that or Zinke. I'm a 39yo mom of b/g twins that will be turning 10 in two short months. I have PCOS that I suffered from for years before being diagnosed at 27yo. I was diagnosed at 30yo with hypothyroidism. The same doc that diagnosed the PCOS and hypoT also told me I had insulin resistance. I took metformin/glucophage to get pregnant but it never resulted in any weight loss for me. Maybe if I would have tried to change my diet it might have. And since we decided we weren't having any more kids I don't care if I ever have another period again. So needless to say I haven't been good about keeping up taking the metformin/gluc. I've never taken the PCOS or IR seriously. My A1C had always been between 4-5. Fast forward a few years and now I'm nearly 300 pounds and almost 40 years old. I just had all my yearly lab work and for the first time things really weren't good. My FBS was 112 and A1C is up to 5.8.

I know I need to start making changes. I used to be quite active on the 3FC boards years ago. Since there are no magic pills I decided this was a good place to come back to. I'm just learning about all this blood sugar stuff and when I should test and how often. I will admit to being more of a lurker than a poster but I'll try to work on changing that.

Thanks for reading. :)

pattygirl63
08-01-2014, 12:50 AM
Billie :welcome2: Glad you found us.

We ended up eating at Cracker Barrel when my friend was finished at the doctor's office. I ate the grilled chicken salad with ranch dressing and had the veggie soup with it instead of the baked potato and ate 1 corn muffin since I'm not cutting out grains completely. I did was pleased with my choice and will see if there is any problem when I check FBS in the morning.

I'm really tired so headed to bed. Catch y'all tomorrow.

Shannonsnail
08-01-2014, 01:11 AM
Still packing like a crazy person. Sent the repair request with quotes over today to the sellers and were told they are getting their own quotes as well and we can expect to hear something on Sunday. Tick tock, tick tock.....

pattygirl63
08-01-2014, 10:25 AM
Let's move to our August chat. See you there.

Wannabehealthy
08-01-2014, 10:32 AM
Here's the link to the August chat if anyone needs it

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/diabetes-support/298290-august-diabetes-prediabetes-support-chat.html