Living Maintenance - Less cold tolerance since losing weight




mars735
06-05-2014, 09:13 PM
I used to be very warm-blooded. Now I'm always cold. (Thyroid is fine). I feel like I am always shopping for another jacket or cover-up. If I'm cold, I want to eat more. Is anyone else dealing with this issue? Is it the loss of fat insulation? Less food being metabolized to give off heat? Not that I'm complaining~I'd rather wear 10 layers of clothes than regain the weight. Just curious....


Chronostasis
06-05-2014, 09:22 PM
Oh yes, this certainly happened to me. Can't tell you why exactly, but if you asked me to guess I'd agree with loss of fat insulation foremost and perhaps also very slight metabolic cooldown.

berryblondeboys
06-05-2014, 09:33 PM
Slower metabolism. Has nothing to do with less fat layers. And age can be a factor too if you are hitting menopause.


Arctic Mama
06-05-2014, 09:41 PM
Mine got worse and worse with weight loss. I have to be eating right at maintenance or a slight calorie surplus to feel warm these days. And I'm never, ever hot.

neurodoc
06-05-2014, 09:56 PM
Nearly universal problem among reduced-weight maintainers. Your metabolism is doing everything it can to get you to regain some weight by downregulating your metabolism. Since one of the main functions of mammalian homeostasis is maintaining core body temp, your body can "save" over 200 cal/day by lowering your basal body temperature a degree or two. There's no fix to this except to eat more (and gain weight back). If you are careful and add in a lot of weight training, you can make most of the weight gain muscle instead of fat, and not look any heavier even though you weigh more - and have a higher basal body temperature.

Arctic Mama
06-05-2014, 10:18 PM
I'm originally from Southern California. Even visitng back there in summer I'm never hot internally. And it's been almost six years of this. Oh well :)

CalCounter1003
06-05-2014, 10:20 PM
Strange you brought this up because I have been so cold the past few weeks. In Florida the AC in buildings is very cold. But I noticed I'm the only one so cold most of the time so it must be my metabolism. I have a sweater with me and keep having hot tea! The only time I'm not cold is after exercise in the morning. Today I took a walk midday outside in the hot sun to warm up, that helped!

Also I have had nights where I wake up sweating, just my legs. I'm 52 and shown no signs of menopause, but had endometrial ablation (sp?) in 2007 and have no TOM since then, so I don't know what's going on!

mars735
06-05-2014, 11:42 PM
Many thanks for the great info and thoughtful answers everyone. I'm so glad I posted. This cold is like a chill from within, not the usual "think I'll put on sweater or close the window". It's strange how my mind veers toward a food solution---brain trying to get me to eat. There's no urge for, say, hot tea. It sounds like another reason why exercise is key to maintenance.

Pattience, I'll look at the article-thanks much. I looked for Dr. Amanda's book at the library but they don't have it. Maybe I'll check Amazon & some other used book sites (congrats on scoring a cheap used copy of her 2nd book).

Arctic Mama, I've been in Alaska in winter and even with my old weight & metabolism, it was COLD!

traveling michele
06-06-2014, 11:18 AM
FWIW, I've found that the cold intolerance has improved slightly over the years. While I'm still much colder than most people, it's not nearly as bad as when I first lost weight. So, there's hope....

JayEll
06-06-2014, 11:25 AM
My normal-weight friend--well, on the lower side of normal--has always felt cold. She is the one who is carrying the sweater or jacket or overshirt everywhere. And it's not that she has slow metabolism or that she's "reduced obese." I think it's the difference in insulation.

JayEll
06-06-2014, 02:17 PM
My friend isn't a triathlete--and it's not something I aspire to, myself! :D

I have two sisters. One is a professional equestrian trainer. She is in great shape. The other has more of a sedentary lifestyle like me. She's overweight.

The horse woman is always cold. We chunky sisters are not.

Oh--when I was at my low goal weight, I also felt cold. Both my friend and I were carrying extra clothes everywhere. But clearly, we weren't cold for the same reasons.

Katy Did
06-07-2014, 01:30 PM
I've definitely noticed that when I GAINED the weight, I was noticeably a lot warmer all the time. It's been like this since I passed 220 lbs about 10 years ago.

Everyone in my office jokes about how warm I always in, even in winter. Now it's summer and I'm almost always too warm unless I'm in a lot of air conditioning. I'll be pretty excited if I ever lose enough weight to mean that I won't be so hot all the time!!! :)

mars735
06-07-2014, 01:51 PM
My dad was always warm. He would walk around in a short-sleeved shirt in NYC in January and be quite happy. His doctors told him it had to do with having blood vessels very close to his skin's surface. I always assumed that, whatever the cause, I'd inherited this tendency. I agree with you Katy that overall, I'm happy to have this problem! Still, it's one more reminder that I have a new 'normal'. I feel like a stranger in my body sometimes.

I'm focusing on staying really warm & cozy for the time being: keeping the home thermostat up, always with a warm jacket, etc. Most of all, I gotta remember that moving around will warm me up effectively, without adding food into the mix.

IanG
06-07-2014, 07:30 PM
I had this with weightloss. Less so now. It used to be worse after I ate my big lunch. I would shiver and would need to turn the heating on in my already warm office. But it has since gone away. Strange.

Perhaps the body adjusts?

IanG
06-07-2014, 07:33 PM
Well, it's gone now. I exercise like a crazy man. That could be part of it reading the other posts.

However, it would be like a blood rush to my belly after eating. That's what I put it down to.

Eating cold food (i.e. salads) all the time didn't help matters either.

CalCounter1003
06-07-2014, 09:31 PM
Ian, Being cold after eating food is the opposite of what is usually expected. What you report is very weird.

This happens to me many days after lunch. I usually eat a cold salad. Then, I'm so cold I have to have a hot tea. I teach right after I eat and practically every day I was wearing a sweater for that class. I thought - why the heck am I worrying about what blouse I am wearing when everyday it is covered with a sweater!

Being a former yo-yo dieter, I do know that when I was gaining, I was always hot, especially at night. When losing, I'm freezing. I've been maintaining 3.5 months and I am still very cold but I'm happy to read that it went away for those who have maintained since that's what I am going to do!

Moving Forward
06-07-2014, 11:55 PM
I've been cold a lot since I lost my weight. 73 degrees seems to be my sweet spot. I'm finding it tough to convince others that that's where we should keep the thermostat.

mars735
06-08-2014, 12:51 AM
I"m a bit confused by your post mars. ARen't everyone's blood vessels close to the skin. Was he overweight or not? How can you have inherited his tendency if you are cold and he was warm? lol. You see i'm quite confused.

I used to always be warm when at my various degrees of overweight, Pattience. My dad was overweight, though tall so he carried it well. I can't really figure what the doc meant about the skin circulation. Maybe some of the larger vessels that are usually deeper were close to the surface. That would place them near heat receptors so that might be what made him feel warm.

mars735
06-08-2014, 01:04 AM
I've been cold a lot since I lost my weight. 73 degrees seems to be my sweet spot. I'm finding it tough to convince others that that's where we should keep the thermostat.

The SF weather this week sure hasn't helped has it? :D

In other news, I'm happy to say that this thread got my arse to the gym this morning & yoga at noon. And then to badminton in the pm where 8 baby boomers swung our rackets at an elusive birdie. I didn't feel the least bit cold. I ate more too--hopefully it will all even out. I like my current size!

mars735
06-08-2014, 01:32 AM
Mars, my first suggestion was not that you couldn't achieve your current size and maintain it but maybe that you need to work down to it. But anyway if you can put up with the cold then its your choice to just keep hoping that it will pass after a period of time. And who am i to say that i won't.

I didn't get that at all from you. Your appreciated suggestion made a lot of sense---thanks! Sorry if I'm sounding a little muddled tonight. As of today, I'm about 5 lbs over desired weight but feel less cold and hungry.

Sounds like this might be where I need to hang out for a while, though eventually I'd like to get to the lower weight. I'll add weight training as neurodoc suggested so that the extra intake can balance out.

saef
06-08-2014, 11:10 AM
More anecdotal evidence for you: Yes, it's true about being cold now that I've lost a significant amount of weight, and the effects are lingering years after. I've had two obese house guests in my apartment recently: my mother and a very good, long-time friend of mine, whose weight now requires that she use a CPAP machine everywhere she goes. When I slept in my room with windows shut and a blanket up, in the guest room they opened a window and threw off all but the sheet. This happened during the day time, too, particularly when we were walking for extended periods of time. They'd get warm and sweaty from walking, I'd feel like nothing much had happened.

And I also get very cold after eating a salad and a refrigerated beverage when the indoor temperature is in the 60s or low 70s. So much so that I was drinking room temperature water or even brewing a cup of coffee afterward to keep from shivering.

mars735
06-08-2014, 10:19 PM
That's interesting saef. I had it in my head that working out more will solve this, but I've read some of your workout posts, so maybe not! The shivering after eating cool things doesn't sound very pleasant.

I once ran a marathon long ago and they gave out mylar sheets at the end to conserve heat. I don't know if that sheds any light on this phenomenon or not--just another example of the mysteries of temperature regulation or lack thereof.

canadjineh
06-10-2014, 08:00 PM
Interesting though, that the custom in very hot countries is to drink hot tea as it makes you perspire and cool easier. They also tend to wear a lot of loose clothing that traps air between the layers as insulation against the heat. Think desert tribes such as the Taureg, etc.

I am also quite cold a lot of the time but part of that is due to fibromyalgia - as exercise has the opposite effect in temperature regulation - actually dropping core temp after workouts in this case instead of raising it as usual.

Pattience
06-11-2014, 01:38 AM
I live in a very hot country but its not dry heat like the dessert dwellers you refer to. In australia where its dry heat the aborigines don't were a load of clothes but unlike the camel leaders they probably sleep under a tree in the middle of the day or somewhere cool.

The custom of hot tea drinking i think is large imported from the english and doesn't really make you cooler. In india i think they drink so much tea for the sake of the sugar, e.g. calories. Their cups of tea are tiny and super sweet.

I don't think the camel leaders would drink much tea throughout the day. I think it would be mainly water.

I have spent a lot of time being in extreme heat conditions. Tea does not cool you down.


The air being trapped in clothes isn't really cool air i think. In india its hot to wear what the women have to wear. The body is giving off heat all the time so it warms up any trapped air. If you are able to stay out of the direct sun, its actually cooler to wear fewer clothes so that any passing breeze can evaporate the water we perspire and also so that the air trapped inside doest warm up. if the sun is intense and you are out in it, all the clothes will protect you from the direct radiation of the sun in the same way that wearing a hat on your head is cooler than having the sun beating down straight on your head. The taurag would experience much sweatiness which is a problem in india and where i live where the weather is much more humid.

canadjineh
06-11-2014, 02:41 PM
North Africans drink a lot of mint tea - not so much regular tea. Maybe the refreshing flavour of mint makes one feel cooler as well. Evaporation of sweat is cooling as long as the humidity is not extremely high, and you get enough liquid to replace what is lost. Sun protection is a big reason why people in desert countries with very little shade wear more clothes as well. That is why people in rainforest or jungle areas of the tropics don't need to wear much for clothing, whereas scrub & desert areas don't have the vegetation to protect locals from radiation.

time2lose
06-12-2014, 11:08 AM
The last time that I lost a large amount of weight (100+ lbs) I had the cold intolerance. I gained back half the weight and went back to my hot all the time nature. Now I have lost all the weight that I regained plus more. I am smaller than I have been my entire adult life but still, I am hot most of the time. Do you think that means that my metabolism is not extremely low this time?

neurodoc
06-12-2014, 08:16 PM
Time2lose, are you close to or at menopause? Hormonal changes will "override" the coldness caused by weight loss, at least, according to my several friends who have lost weight around age 50-55. Apparently, hot flashes may actually be good for something if you're a dieter :>)

Pinkhippie
06-12-2014, 11:42 PM
I have been a "normal" weight most of my life. I only gained post pregnancy and usually lose the weight within 2 years post baby. Anyway, I have ALwAYS been cold except for when I weighed way more than usual. I have always been the person that needs to bring a light cardigan when we go out in 90 degree weather, the person that freezes in restaurants and movie theaters, and I always had to wear way more layers than my friends. When I gained weight one of the first things I noticed is that I was not cold and actually hot, and as Im on my way back down, I find that I am getting cold again and I am happy about it. I don't like to be hot.

Anyway... I'm pretty sure my metabolism was and is normal, I just always assumed being cold was from not having lots of extra insulation. I also was always active as well. I always had very physical jobs that required a lot of being on my feet, up and down and walking.

Oh, I also used to work with a very thin girl who would get extremely cold after every meal she ate. She would be freezing for a while. She didn't really know why that happened either.

eta: I hope its ok I posted in maintainers... technically I have been maintaining around this weight for at least a month now. :D

Pattience
06-13-2014, 12:18 AM
pink hippie, i hadn't even noticed where this post was posted. I"m not a maintainer yet either. Nobody has told me not to post here.

mars735
06-13-2014, 10:58 AM
Pinkhippie & Pattience, I guess this could be posted in a general forum but I posted here because being cold derails me from good eating habits, and I only noticed it after phasing off the initial big weight loss. Anyway, I don't know what makes someone a maintainer other than the state of mind. I'm seesawing a bit so I am often trying to be a weight loser, still. It's like the San Andreas fault where I live, a famous earthquake area--a wide zone rather than a discrete line. Thanks for adding to the discussion!

Pinkhippie
06-13-2014, 11:56 AM
pink hippie, i hadn't even noticed where this post was posted. I"m not a maintainer yet either. Nobody has told me not to post here.

Thanks Pattience. :)

Pinkhippie & Pattience, I guess this could be posted in a general forum but I posted here because being cold derails me from good eating habits, and I only noticed it after phasing off the initial big weight loss. Anyway, I don't know what makes someone a maintainer other than the state of mind. I'm seesawing a bit so I am often trying to be a weight loser, still. It's like the San Andreas fault where I live, a famous earthquake area--a wide zone rather than a discrete line. Thanks for adding to the discussion!

Oh, Ok. Thank you. :) Its true about the mindset of maintaining. I definitely feel a bit more like a maintainer these days. Like I don't have the rush of putting on smaller clothes and having them fit, or watching my stomach get so much flatter. I have already seen that and it's old hat now. :D Im not goal weight yet, but Im so close and in such good shape that Im very close to how I looked pre pregnancy weight gain.

Anyway your title caught my eye because I have always been such a cold person, it was very interesting.

CalCounter1003
06-13-2014, 12:06 PM
Thanks Pattience. :)




Anyway your title caught my eye because I have always been such a cold person, it was very interesting.

Yes, this thread made me feel better about the fact I am so cold now. Also, I was thinking about it and I always have ice water with my meals and always eating inside in freezing AC. The AC in Florida restaurants and in my school is so cold! So I am just going to accept that I need to have a sweater/cover with me! I prefer that sweater to the 50+ pound insulation I was wearing last year.

ICUwishing
06-13-2014, 01:51 PM
We always say you're a maintainer if you've successfully held off even a pound of what you were trying to lose. :D Most of us have held off "most" of it for a longish time, and when/if we slip a few, we have a thread for that too.

To crib a favorite saying, the longest part of the weight loss journey and where you'll spend the majority of your LIFE is maintenance, so you might as well try to learn the techniques early! ;)

time2lose
06-15-2014, 09:07 PM
neurodoc originally posted Time2lose, are you close to or at menopause? Hormonal changes will "override" the coldness caused by weight loss, at least, according to my several friends who have lost weight around age 50-55. Apparently, hot flashes may actually be good for something if you're a dieter :>)

Oh yeah, actually I think that I would be considered postmenopauseal. I did not/do not have hot flashes as much as I am just hot all the time. I was really hoping for that cold feeling that I keep hearing comes with weight loss! Thank you for answering!

Oh, yeah

mars735
09-18-2014, 10:58 PM
I'm going to revive this thread in case in case it's helpful to anyone recently having lost a lot of weight since winter is on the way.

Originally, I experienced cold intolerance during my first winter after big weight loss. [Okay, I'm a weather wimp who complains if the ambient temp is lower than 68F, higher than 72F :D ]. A lot of posters chimed in with similar experiences and good tips.Thanks neurodoc for explaining the cause and what to do about it (exercise, eat more!).

Just something to keep in mind as you build your new, smaller-sized wardrobe... You may need warmer things than before, even in California :)

[A side note...I had an unplanned weight gain of ~10 lbs over the last few months and became more active, though not working out. As neurodoc predicted, I no longer have the chilled-to-the-bone feeling. Hope to hang onto that as I get the weight back down where it belongs].