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06-01-2014, 12:23 PM
Welcome to the Diabetes June chat.....

06-01-2014, 12:45 PM
Good morning ladies. I woke up at 5 AM then went back to sleep. Then again at 8:30, then back to sleep. Finally woke at 10:00 and DH was already up. He rarely gets up before me. So I'm getting a late start to my day. I just ate breakfast, so probably no lunch for me today.

My bedtime glucose was 103 and this morning was 123 still without the glimiperide, so I guess that's my new number. I'm not complaining. After all those 200s and 300s I'm thanking God. My doctor doesn't care about fasting bs as long as my A1c is under 7.

06-01-2014, 02:55 PM
Carol Sue - Glad to see your numbers are looking so good without the medication. Good for you!

06-01-2014, 08:32 PM
Carol Sue You are doing very well without the glimiperide. I have been thinking about asking my doctor to let me have on my trip because I know it is going to be tough keeping it down eating in restaurants. But I will wait to see what the A1c is first. I just don't want to get above the 130s any more.

I ended up losing only 2 lbs for the month of May even with the low which I haven't been able to keep steady. I probably need to change my ticker to the higher number of 223.4. I will raise it if my number doesn't come back down in the next day or two. Not tracking on MFP is working very well for me. I am only eating when hungry and eating fairly low carb. It seems as though IE has actually set in and I'm not craving carby junk. Amazingly I actually have been hungry for veggies. So I will continue with this way of eating as long as it works. I made breakfast for lunch when we got home from church and the amazing thing is that I didn't even want toast like I usually do. DH wanted scrambled eggs and toast and I wanted an omelet made with greens and Southwestern eggbeaters. I really did enjoy it. Then for dinner I got hungry for a salad and put canned diced ham in it. I hope I can keep this up.

Rennie It seems that I remember you asking if I tried the whey shake without oatmeal. I'm sorry I forgot to respond. Yes, I have a different brand that I really do like, but the store where I purchased it went out of business. I need to go online and see if some other local store carries it. Right now I use the Atkins shakes and add a little bit of fruit to it. I forgot to put the coconut oil in it, so I put it in my coffee. Coconut oil is supposed to lower triglycerides so I really want to get back to using it. I also use the coconut oil when I cook my eggs.

We have 3 month doctor's appointment Thursday morning. They want to switch DH from Warfarin to one of the new meds that is supposed to control blood thinning without having blood stick every few weeks or once a month. DH has to decide if he wants to change and I need to decide if I want to ask him about the glimiperide.

My daughters companion passed away early this morning. She said she finally prayed and released him last night because he coded again and didn't seem to be older than maybe a 6 yr old in his mind. She said for a month that he has been talking to about how excited he was that he was going to go to heaven and see his Mama again. So thankful he isn't suffering any more. They had come to the place where if they tried dialysis that he would crash and if the didn't get to do it until Monday he would bloat excessively. Now he is free and doesn't have to worry about it and be poked at any more. She has peace although she is hurting. I think she is learning that she is stronger than she realized. Of course, it helps that I know exactly how she feels having gone through it 2x myself. Those of you who pray, please pray for her and his family.

Catch y'all tomorrow. Have a blessed evening.

06-02-2014, 12:41 AM
Trish I'm sorry to hear that, I will pray for her.

Rennie you asked about heavy whipping cream. I do low carb high fat so it's fine for me. Most things that call for it do not require much though.

I also only lost two pounds in May. I was kind of depressed upon realizing that but checked my measurements today and they are all still going down so trying to focus on that. I finally have had 24 hrs without incident so I think the food poisoning or whatever has passed. I was getting a little worried that I was going to have to go to the dr. Tomorrow starts summer for us....no preschool and no more planned vacation til Sept. I have a loose schedule planned for this week starting with returning to the gym tomorrow, going to the pool Tues, a puppet show Wed, hopefully a playdate Thurs and storytime on Fri. Lastly, happy to say I've had a completely on plan day today for the first time since before vacation.

06-02-2014, 08:08 AM
Finally broke through the force field and weighed in at 193 this AM. Bedtime BS at 106 and 97 this morning. Still no glimiperide. I find that no eating after dinner is lowering my FBS. It's hard, but I'm taking one day at a time. I make sure I eat a big dinner so I don't get hungry. Last night my stomach was growling but I didn't feel that weak hungry feeling.

Shannon, I'm glad you're feeling better. You are back on track and seem to have your summer all planned. My grandson is finished preschool but still going to daycare until kindergarten in the fall. It will be all new kids for him because his current daycare is not in the town they live in, but one kid from his karate class will be going to the same after-school daycare so he will know someone. It's hard for him to leave his friends.

Trish, please extend my deepest condolences to your DD. They are both in my prayers. When someone is so sick, it makes you realized that they are going to a better place, even though it is still hard to let go.

I am going to research the coconut oil before I stop using it. Lowering triglycerides is a very good benefit!

Kris, I still take Metformin with no side effects and that will probably be forever. But the glimiperide forces your pancreas to release insulin and eventually burns out your beta cells so I don't want to take it continuously. I will not tell the dr that I am not taking it daily as he directed because I want to have it on hand if I need it.

Don't disappear again, Rennie!:nono:

Hey Artic and Ruthie!:wave:

Someone wake up Bonnie and Mad. They have been away too long!

06-02-2014, 10:12 AM
May was a roller coaster and I ended up back at 190 this a.m. Of course going off low carb for the weekend didn't help. Back on track today.

I bought a Fitbit a while ago and realized how little I move - bad knee and hammer toes kind of cramp my style. Just lately though, things have improved and I'm getting more steps in. Sometimes it's good to have a reality check!

FBGL running fine and I have not yet gone for HA1C - Maybe next month? This one is just crammed full!

06-02-2014, 10:18 AM
Glad you hear from you Ruthie, and hear that you are still doing well.

I just ate my breakfast. I sauteed some mushrooms, chopped spinach and some lentils, then poured my eggs over them and scrambled it all up. Served it on a plate with some sliced tomatoes and raw onions. It was soooo good, I could eat another plate of it, but I won't. I am loving these breakfasts I've been making lately, but when we go out for breakfast it seems so boring to have plain scrambled eggs. One place serves a Veggie Delight Omlette, but it's just not as good as mine, and it costs $8, plus tip!

Trish, about the glimiperide. I was checking my BS before each meal and if it was up a little, like over 130 I would take the glimiperide, or maybe a half, depending on what I was going to eat at that meal. You might surprise yourself. There are ways to eat in restaurants without eating a lot of carbs. I find that most will allow you to swap out your carbs for veggies.

06-02-2014, 10:21 AM
Happy Monday! I finally tested my fbs (had not tested since a week ago) and was glad to see 100. I also was a pound down on the scale from last week's weigh in. Yay! Maybe things will turn around this month :-)

My daughter woke at 6:30 and was up for an hour then slept for maybe 30 min. I never really got back to sleep but laid next to her to help her try to sleep so I am dragging today. It's already 9:20 and I haven't started on breakfast. I may switch pool day to today and then go back tomorrow for exercise. Childcare at the Y here has weird hours. It stops around noon and doesn't start again til sometime after 4. I prefer to put Olivia in there before 10 because by 11 it thins out considerably with moms getting done and leaving.

Carol Sue yay!!! Congrats on putting that force field in its place!

06-02-2014, 12:34 PM
Sounds like everyone is starting June off well. I got to keep my 221 as the scale read 221.8 this morning. And my fbs was back down to 118. Something I'm eating or doing is causing me to have diarrhea and I'm not quite sure what it is. I am drinking the Atkins shakes for breakfast because I want to get used to having it on the trip. It has never caused me problems in the past, but I am putting my 2 servings of fruit in it and this morning I added 1 T coconut oil. Yesterday I had the coconut oil in my coffee that I drank along with the shake. I am going to research coconut oil today and see if it could be causing me to have the diarrhea. So Carol Sue, please let me know if you see anything about it when you research it as well. I would appreciate it.

However, since it has just hit me again this morning, I think I just realized it is probably the corn syrup and other junk which I have no idea what they are in the fat free creamer I bought. I wanted to find a powdered creamer I could take on the trip for my morning coffee so I wouldn't have to use just anything people have and I accidentally picked up ff. However, that doesn't explain the Golden Corral incident. I don't know where they get their veggies from, but I use packaged salads for my foundation to my salads and since they don't advertise we are getting GMO foods, I'm wondering if that could even be the problem since what I used yesterday looks a lot like what I had as my base at Golden Corral. I'm going to research all that today as well. The only up side to this is that it is helping the scale move downward. LOL Any way, I am staying low carb as much as I possibly can. I like having my fbs under 120 and it is my plan to stay under it. If I have to live on or close to the Atkins way of eating the rest of my life I will just have to do it.

Thanks for your prayers for my DD. I know from experience that God seems to wrap us in a cocoon of His love and peace the first couple of weeks and with Chester having been in the hospital for so long it just feels like he is away and will be home soon. I know the day comes when the reality of the loss sets in and that is when it really hits you that they are gone and won't be back. She is a trooper and will hang in there. They good thing is that our trip puts us there with her about the time that she will really need us to just hold her and love her and re-assure her all will be okay. She will be busy for a while finding housing that she can afford since she will have only one income now although he didn't bring in that much with them on disability. However, now she will qualify for help she probably couldn't get before and I think AR has good help for the disabled. Then I hope when she gets settled that she will come spend some time with us as she adjusts. She has friends and wants to stay where she is. She can always decide to move here but must do things in her own timing. I remember when her Daddy passed away, I had to do it all as I was ready and she will too. She is good about sharing her feeling with me and that helps me to be able to help her.

Ruthie It is so good to hear from you. I know getting OP is very difficult with you being so busy, but you really do good.

Shannon You have a busy summer planned and I'm sure Olivia will totally enjoy it. So glad you are feeling better.

Rennie So glad to hear from you. Don't stay away so long. We miss you when you aren't here.

Kris Glad you checked in too.

Now if we could just get Bonnie and Fatmad to check in. They are really missed.

Y'all have a great day.

06-02-2014, 01:39 PM
Trish, I didn't see anything bad about the coconut oil. It said it's good for you, but couldn't find anything specific. It just said lowers cholesterol, without any details. I know that the bowel problems help with weight loss, but you can't go on too long with it. You might have caught a bug.

06-02-2014, 04:44 PM
Carol Sue and Trish THE TWO OF YOU MADE MY DAY :hug: I'm not going to disappear. I just get distracted and then when I come back it's pages to read, and I feel the need to respond to everyone. I need to stop but it seems rude not to ... I'll have learn not to obsess over posting to everyone all the time :)

Carol Sue the way you woke up and went back to sleep is what I did today. I was just tired. I got up at 9:30, felt good to sleep in :) Good job on your blood sugars. I'm happy for you. YAY on 193 and a FBS of 97, look at you go :high: Thanks for the tip on restaurants allowing you to switch a veggie for a carb. That's good to know :)

Trish, good job on the 2lb loss :high: I think IE with 5:2 are the way I'm eating, though I still want carbs every now and then, probably more now than then times ;) Trish, my condolences, I will definitely add your daughter and his family to my prayers, God Bless :hug: You'll be her ROCK I'm sure :) Glad to hear you have a close relationship :), that makes it all the better :hug: Sorry about the diarrhea, hope you figure out what's causing it :hug:

Shannon thanks for the tip on the heavy cream. :) Good job on the 2lbs GONE :high: You had a ton of activities going on that involved food so count that as a VICTORY my friend :) Which gym to you go to? My daughter and her husband go to Planet Fitness off Glenwood. Glad you're feeling better :) Good job on staying OP yesterday :high:

Ruth good to see you, glad you're getting more steps in :)

I started June 1 @ 160.0 and weighed in today at 158.6 down 1.4 this is a new low for me. My fbs was 114 yesterday and 102 today. I was so happy to see it at 98 on the 31st but oh well. Carol Sue I know for me also the key is not to eat after 6:30-7 so that's what I'm trying to do. And Trish I am trying to stay as close to low carb as possible without deprivation, so no binging :)

06-02-2014, 05:15 PM
Carol Sue I read info on WebMD and it says coconut oil helps diarrhea so I don't believe that is it. And even GMO causes problems but doesn't mention diarrhea. Then I looked up HFCS and it most certainly can be my problem. They say if you drink a Coke and have diarrhea within 2 hours it is caused by the HFCS. I'm throwing out the ff creamer. One thing I did realize after reading that coconut oil helps relieve diarrhea is that the coconut oil may have actually caused the diarrhea to not last as long as it did last night. I may just have to drink my coffee with only my sweetener at DH son's house because he makes awfully strong coffee that would almost walk to you. LOL Will probably have to drink only one cup and stick to lots of water which can't hurt.

I also wondered if I had a bug, but am thinking it was the creamer. Will see how the day goes and how I do in the next few days. I have a doctor's appt Thursday morning if it doesn't clear up by then I'll talk to the doctor.

WebMD also says that coconut oil is good for not only lowering bad colesterol, but also is good for raising the good which my doctor told me was hard to raise. It warned that too much can cause you to gain weight. However, used correctly it is good for losing weight around the waist witin about 6 weeks, but to be sure not to use too much of it. One reference I read said according to the author that while she did use coconut oil, she felt olive oil is still better. I use both moderately so I think I'm doing good.

06-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Trish did it say what the recommended amount to use per day would be? LOL one of my Aunt's makes her coffee really strong. I would rely on it to go to the bathroom, she used canned Pet milk for her coffee so I think that helped also :) Hope you're feeling better soon :hug:

06-02-2014, 09:26 PM
Rennie, the chain restaurants we go to around here list your entree plus 2 sides and those two sides can be your choice, so I just choose 2 vegetables, or 1 vegetable and a salad, or 1 vegetable and a cup of soup. I have done the same at Texas Roadhouse. It may be different with better restaurants. And don't forget to tell them "no rolls." Once they are on the table they are hard to resist.

Glad to hear you are back down to the 150's. It does sound as if we are all starting off June on the right track.

I remember back in the day, so many people used canned milk in their coffee. I usually take mine black, but I bought some of those International Coffee Almond Joy creamers and they are really, really good! I am down to 2-3 cups of coffee per day now that I switched to decaf and I only use one of the creamers every couple days. I could get addicted to them, and I don't need any more addictions!

06-02-2014, 10:08 PM
Rennie YAY on the new low. I had to go check out where I saw the amount of coconut oil that is recommended. I couldn't find the original place I saw it, but finally found a site that 1st said eat the amount you feel comfortable with as people are getting great results from using it. However, it finally said that most people are using 2 to 3 Tbls a day. Some place I read earlier recommended 3 Tbls a day... 1 Tbls 3 times a day. I did read where some people spread it out into 6 times rather than the 3 times. Personally, I don't use more than the 3 and some days only use the 2. I saw you mention before you didn't think you would like it in your coffee, so I would suggest as someone else did for you to put a dose in your shake. I really think putting it in my shake helped me to be better satisfied. I don't mind the taste so I have also used it on toast in place of butter and even on veggies sometimes. I would say experiment with it.

I also read on WebMD that it was good for diabetes so I'm wondering if that is what is helping my fbs to be doing better. I'm going to research and see if I can find out more about that end of it. I'll let y'all know if I learn anything worth sharing.

I haven't had the diarrhea any more, but seem to be having some belly pain that feels like a lot of gas. Oh how these bodies do confuse me sometimes. However, I am thinking when we start doing good changes that perhaps our body is just reacting and it will all work out.

Eating has been really good today. I've used shakes twice today in place of meals. Haven't been hungry so today has been a very good day.

06-02-2014, 10:22 PM
Well, that didn't take long. I found this website and the info is amazing. I'm beginning to think that the whether I have used coconut oil or not and maybe even the amount I've used has been the reason my fbs fluctuates from almost normal to higher. I think when I've use it liberally, are the times I see lower readings the next day and when I have forgotten to use it for some reason the day before then I have a higher reading. You'll see why I believe that when you read this info on this website. I am going to make CO my regular oil more by especially seeing to it that I eat at least 3 Tbls a day and see what happens. I look forward to hear y'all responses to this.


06-02-2014, 11:39 PM
Thanks Carol Sue :), LOL yeah the rolls/bread are definitely hard to resist ... the smell alone is a trigger :). I have found that I have to stay clear of the soups in most restaurants because of the sodium. My goodness I think the restaurant chefs are trying to kill us with all of the sodium :dizzy: I still like canned milk in my coffee, but I use the s/f caramel machioto creamer with soy milk in my coffee now and I can only drink one 16oz travel cup. Sometimes I don't finish that. Too much coffee makes my stomach hurt. One lady on another thread told me about some that is less something (I don't remember the word). I said I was gonna try it but right now it's cheaper to buy walmart brand and call it a day :)

Thanks Trish :), and thank you for the info on the coconut oil. I may try it in a shake tomorrow. I'll let you know :)

06-03-2014, 12:51 AM
Thanks Carol Sue :), LOL yeah the rolls/bread are definitely hard to resist ... the smell alone is a trigger :). I have found that I have to stay clear of the soups in most restaurants because of the sodium. My goodness I think the restaurant chefs are trying to kill us with all of the sodium :dizzy: I still like canned milk in my coffee, but I use the s/f caramel machioto creamer with soy milk in my coffee now and I can only drink one 16oz travel cup. Sometimes I don't finish that. Too much coffee makes my stomach hurt. One lady on another thread told me about some that is less something (I don't remember the word). I said I was gonna try it but right now it's cheaper to buy walmart brand and call it a day :)

Thanks Trish :), and thank you for the info on the coconut oil. I may try it in a shake tomorrow. I'll let you know :)

I realized that I had only 1 Tbls of CO in my shake this morning and felt so miserable with the gas build up. So I decided to heat some green tea with 1 Tbls of CO and it actually helped. I am feeling a lot better now so I'm going to bed hoping I can have a good nights sleep. I'm going to work in 1 Tbls 3 times a day and see if it will do for me as good as they said on the diet site. I am also going to read more of the testimonials of how it has worked for them for encouragement. Rennie I buy a lot of walmart stuff because it is cheaper. I also have the problem of sodium when eating in restaurants.

Good night.

06-03-2014, 08:25 AM
I am going to wait until I hear from you guys about the Coconut Oil. I only use it when I saute my vegetables, and to me, it makes them too greasy. The way I do it, I put a small amount of butter in the pan and saute the onions, add the garlic, then the mushrooms. When I add the kale, spinach or cabbage whichever I'm using I stir it up then add a tiny bit of water or broth, just enough to make steam and so it won't burn, then I put a lid on and let it wilt down on a low heat. If I use the CO instead of the butter, it has a really greasy texture which I don't really care for. And those people who say they eat a spoonful right out of the jar, to me it would be like eating a spoonful of Crisco! I know fat is important for blood glucose, but I don't know if I'm going to be able to handle this.

About the sodium...I don't like a salty taste. Rarely do I eat chips or pretzels, unless there is dip to cover the taste of the salt. My husband is one of those people who picks up the salt shaker before he even tastes his food. One time I put a lot of salt in the veggies to see what he would say and he never even mentioned it. I try to get him to quit doing that because of his blood pressure, and if he gets a really high reading he will stop using the salt for a couple days, but then goes back to it. Now, when I cook, I don't put salt in the food because I know he is going to salt it anyway. When I have the family over, they know my food will not have salt so I just put a couple salt shakers out on the table and let them salt at will. I know it tastes better when the salt is used during cooking, but I have to do this do keep him from getting too much.

I know one thing that is high sodium in restaurants is sauces and gravies, so when I order meat that comes with sauce or gravy I tell them I want it without the sauce. I even had to do that when I was in the hospital, because even though I was on a low sodium diet and they wouldn't give me salt packets, the gravies always tasted too salty. I have a little salt and pepper shaker that I used to carry in my purse when I worked and I took that with me when I went to the hospital because they gave me egg beaters for breakfast and I HAVE to have salt and pepper on eggs. But I only use a little bit.

06-03-2014, 10:27 AM
I use coconut oil for cooking but that is it so far. I tried oil pulling with it (kind of like gargling it) bc I heard about all the dental benefits and I have alot of teeth issues but it was nasty, I couldn't do it. But again, if you are adding it to coffee or smoothies to ingest, start with 1 TEASPOON first and work your way up slowly, otherwise you will be on the toilet all day (according to other low carbers).

BS was 98 last night and FBS was 110 today, go figure...I don't think I will ever understand fastings! Honestly as long as it is under 120 I'm more concerned about postprandials being normal since those make up most of the day.

We had fun at the pool yesterday but mama needs a new swimsuit! My mumu suit I've been wearing for 4 yrs is faded and feeling less than snug. I do not like the idea of possibly losing a portion of my suit by accident, lol! I absolutely detest swimsuit shopping and was hoping to avoid it til I'd lost more and was more comfy in my skin but alas, I need to put on my big girl panties and go find one now. In a way it's a good thing that I've lost enough already to force the issue sooner but argh, I do not look forward to it!

Rennie i think I forgot to answer your question....we did go to water country last week. We like it too but personally it's a lot of walking in flip flops and with my feet problems, that is not optimal. But we had fun! Oh, and we go to the YMCA (Kerr Banks branch near Wake Forest). Today I am going to attempt to go to exercise. Olivia has already told me twice she does not want to go to childcare. Oy! I hope it goes better than I'm expecting. We haven't been there for me to exercise since probably February.

Last night I got Olivia to bed early so I was able to get my kitchen cleaned up, omelets prepped, coffee ready to go for today. It was such a better morning. I need to keep that up.

06-03-2014, 10:57 AM
Carol Sue I don't always use CO on my veggies either especially on things that already have a little bit of greasy taste. I have accidentally used too much of it on stir-fry and sauteing and I agree that I don't like the texture on them. That's where I use EVOO which seems to be better. I also agree about taking CO by the spoonful. Makes me cringe. I read somewhere how good it is for you to take liquid CO and whoosh it around in your mouth for healthy gums etc and I just can't stand the thought of it. I use it in my coffee when I eat eggs and I will cook my eggs in just a tiny bit. It really doesn't take much. I used to use canned Coconut milk in my coffee and replaced my milk with it when I found a carton of it at Walmart, but it is expensive and hard to find sometimes especially hard to find the carton milk. It tastes so good that I think when they have it someone else beats it to me besides the fact that Walmart is good about running out of things and never having it again. Anyway I haven't heard anyone say anything about its benefits like the oil. I'll let you know how the CO works. I've never consistently done it, but I will now. Oh one thing I did read is that it works better with low carb no grains. I'm thinking it would be a great addition to Atkins or SBD way of eating.

Rennie You mentioned your Aunt used canned milk in her coffee, I just realized when writing Carol Sue that I could get a can of Coconut milk and put it in a jar and use it in my coffee while on the tree. At home I use half and half, but of course I can't carry it on the trip.

Back muscle pain seems to have let up some, but not gone. I think I must have laid wrong the night before or pulled it somehow and it will just have to work itself. The 2 shakes worked ok, but weight is now bouncing between 221 and 222 range which isn't bad. My fbs is up a tad and bp was up. Tried my new Reli-on meter today and it reads 2 pts less than the old one so since the date and times is correct on it, I've switched to it. I still had some strips left for the old one but DH only checks his when I can make him so I just put them in his meter pouch. So they won't be wasted. The one thing I did like about the old meter was the fact that the strips were wrapped individually, but I guess doesn't matter. I used to always be so careful to keep them clean and I noticed some of the nurses when they do the A1c touch theirs all over so I assume it doesn't really matter. LOL I am so picky from the years of caring for my DD when she was a burn victim. When she was first in the hospital you had to sterilize so and cover yourself from head to foot to keep her safe and then when I got her home I had to keep her sore places so sanitized. Then when my previous had a terrible deep leg wound they didn't do that any more. Strange how all that changes. Years ago a fire flared up and burned my Daddy's arm and they did almost nothing with his healing the way they did Tanzy's. Modern medicine is so different than when we were younger. LOL Guess that shows my age. :dizzy:

I better get busy. Still got to do vitamins for DH and me. I'm the one who spoiled him and now he expects it to be done when he gets up. LOL And then I've got to decided what I'm going to eat.

Shannon, Ruthie, Kris and everybody else :wave:

Y'all have a great day.

06-03-2014, 10:59 AM
Shannon I find that interesting about the low carbers having potty issues. I did read that it has a cleansing effect. So maybe it did cause mine. You and Olivia have a fun day.

06-03-2014, 12:28 PM
Trish, maybe I am using too much of the CO when I saute. I never got potty issues from it, but that would help with low carb, which can cause constipation.

Shannon, I get a swimsuit catalog in the mail every year, and I don't know how they got my name, but these swimsuits are beautiful. I don't go anywhere to need one, but if I did, I would get one of these. They are expensive, but I see online that some are reduced prices that they don't show in the catalog. There isn't one suit in there that I wouldn't wear!


06-03-2014, 05:10 PM
Trish I haven't tried the CO yet in my shake because today was an off day and I didn't get of bed till 10:20. I went back to bed after I put my daughter on the bus. I was totally exhausted for some reason. Trish, you can get the mini moos that don't have to be refrigerated for your trip.

Carol Sue I don't like the salty taste either. I send soup back often in restaurants for that reason. I couldn't eat a spoon of Co either, I think it would remind me of my mother giving me mineral oil when I was young, GAG!! I don't cook with salt either. My family doesn't salt anything but we go through pepper like you wouldn't believe :)

Shannon I have tooth/teeth issues also. If we ever meet you'll see. Not pretty at all, my issue is the front teeth top and bottom. Glad you had fun at Water Country USA. I didn't know you had problems with your feet. I'm sorry to hear that. I would wear flip flops every where if I could. I went to Old Navy and bought flip flops in every color. I need to replace a few thanks to my daughters claiming them ;) I'm sorry Olivia doesn't like the child care at the Y. Did you ask why? Just curious. Rissa only likes the child care at the gym if there is someone her age in there which is rare and they have a Wii. I need a swimsuit also. I think they all cost too much money but I do want to get one since I like going to my daughters and enjoying pool time with the kids :)

06-03-2014, 09:56 PM
Rennie, the chain restaurants we go to around here list your entree plus 2 sides and those two sides can be your choice, so I just choose 2 vegetables, or 1 vegetable and a salad, or 1 vegetable and a cup of soup. I have done the same at Texas Roadhouse. It may be different with better restaurants. And don't forget to tell them "no rolls." Once they are on the table they are hard to resist.

I have NEVER had a problem at chains or "nicer" restaurant when I ask for double vegetables, no potato/rice/pasta. I have been doing that for years. In fact, I look at all the vegetables they offer on all the dishes, specials, etc and tell them which two I want. I sometimes don't even want the one veggie that actually comes with my entree. Usually it is absolutely not a problem. Sometimes there is an up charge (usually when asparagus is involved) but as long as they tell me ahead of time, I don't mind.

I have had times when they up charged me for a request and did not tell me ahead. I do complain, very politely, about that, and they usually take it off. One time, they didn't tell me and when I said something to the waiter and then the manager, the manager's response was "well, people usually get upset if we tell them there is an extra charge, so we just don't tell them!" I laughed inside, but outwardly was not happy and he took it off!!

06-04-2014, 08:04 AM
Laurie, Bob Evans Restaurant has an upcharge if you order a salad for one of your sides. Sometimes they tell you and sometimes not, but it is stated right on the menu. It's a 50 cent upcharge, which we don't mind. At Dennys, we order from the senior menu, which offers a potato, and a vegetable and a choice of soup or salad. I have never asked to substitute another veggie for the potato since I'm already getting a salad and a vegetable. I just eat a very small portion of the potato or leave it. We go to another local restaurant that does the same thing. One time I asked if I could substitute a veggie and they said no, another time they said yes, so I think it depends on who you ask. We know the restaurant owner and I think they would allow it, but I don't like to make waves. If they make me take the starch I either leave it, or just eat a small portion of it. They have eggplant parm that is delicious, but it comes with a side of spaghetti, which is NOT a side. It's a huge bowl of spaghetti! That's when I try to substitute because if they said no, I would change my order. A lot of time with "specials" there is a notation that says "no substitutions."

Rennie, I have tooth issues too, especially the bottom front. I will not eat corn on the cob, bite into an apple, etc for fear of breaking or losing a tooth. They are fragile. They have shifted a bit and I have a gap between two of them. Not, pretty, but I am glad I still have them and don't need dentures.

We split a bit turkey club sandwich for dinner last night. The bread was very good multi grain. I removed the middle piece of bread. That was the first bread I've had for at least a week since I started back on low carb. I won't get on the scale today because I don't want to see a gain. I took a glimiperide and it kept my BS down, but there's nothing to keep the weight down! LOL

06-04-2014, 10:00 AM
I wrote a long post last night before bed and lost it before I posted it! Waah!

Anyway, i will try to recreate it later. Gym visit went well yesterday. Today we are going to a puppet show and daughter is getting a haircut. FBS was 105 this morning and scale is moving in right direction. 3 on plan days in a row, yay!

06-04-2014, 10:43 AM
Carol Sue I have quite a few gaps because of missing teeth in the back. I loss a bottom tooth last year. It had been loose for a while and one day I was brushing my teeth, hit it with the tooth brush and it just came out. I was told that I have two other loose teeth in the front, one top, one bottom both in the front. So I rarely smile with my mouth open. I bite corn on the cob and an apple on the side, my kids think it's funny. I would love to have dentures but even at affordable dentures it's more than we can afford on one income.

Shannon I hate that ... I think I'm gonna start opening two windows again so I don't do that :) Congrats on 3 OP days, way to go.

I am down .8 to 158.4. FBS 113 this morning. I have yet to figure this out, but it is what it is and it's low compared to the past so I'll happily take that :)

06-04-2014, 12:52 PM
I think I have to re-introduce the CO slowly. I'm not eating low low carb that I intend to do when I get back from my trip mainly because I don't want diarrhea issues while traveling etc. I read the CO Diet and it is very much low carb and uses CO and avocados in the sample menu that I saw. I realized that when you are doing low carb way of eating more like Atkins with fats, especially healthy fats that you probably will experience diarrhea because I think that is the detoxing effect of it. I had been eating avocados each morning with my eggs and then added the tablespoon of CO and that was probably why I was running to the potty so much. The last few days, I've been eating a few grains, etc and I had become constipated even taking 3 servings of the CO. So I I think it is a good idea for me to just have the 1 T in my coffee for a while. O yes, I don't think you/I will need 3 servings of the CO on days when eating avocado. I did read somewhere that avocados are a great food for diabetics.

I also decided to read up on benefits of coconuts and I've decided that as hard as it is to break those darn things, I'm going to add them as a snack food when I get back home. I'm sorry I didn't keep the website, but I will try to find it if anyone wants it.

Carol Sue and Laurie I like eating in restaurants where I can substitute veggies and especially when I can sub a salad. When we decide to eat where I can't do that, I just count it as a "Planned" off meal so I still am on OP. I had the experience last time we ate at Pizza Hut one of the sides offered with the personal pan was a salad I think for $2 because we were there on lunch menu. When we got the ticket, they had charged us full dinner price for the salad. We told them and they changed it, but I think maybe they do that thinking many people don't check it. Tony always leaves a good tip, so I feel they should reciprocate with good service which to me includes honesty on the ticket.

Shannon I used to have that happen to me all the time until I switched from enternet explorer to firefox. However, I don't know if that is your problem or not. Ruthie and my DS had suggested I switch to firefox. It is free. You and Olivia have a fun day.

Rennie Yay weight down .8 to 158.4. FBS 113 this morning is still good. I still don't understand how I can have such good low fbs and it goes up for a few days. But I'm just glad I'm not getting high readings any more either. I usually know why I have a slight gain (usually salt), but I just don't always understand the world of fbs. We just have to keep doing what we know to do and trust that it will get better and better and eventually we will have it under control.

I read somewhere that we need to keep fbs under 120 in order not to cause any damage to our bodies. So my goal is to get it consistently under 120.

Well, we made out reservations for motels last night still deciding about when we are returning. Counting the days now.

Y'all have a great day.

06-04-2014, 02:22 PM
I just used my Vegetti for the first time. It was easy, as all of you said. I liked the look of the zucchini strands. I sauteed it in a bit of CO with some butter. I wanted it to brown a bit, but it didn't. Then I added salt, pepper and some parmesan cheese. It was pretty good. I let the zucchini get pretty soft. I think the next time I make spaghetti for DH I am going to try it with zucchini for me and see if I like it. That would be good if I could eat that instead of the pasta. Now I'm going to have to start buying more zucchini.

Trish, I always heard that people experience constipation with low carb rather than diarrhea. It's because there's not enough fiber in the diet. I have never heard of anyone getting diarrhea with it, but maybe it happens if you use the coconut oil. I make sure I have some beans and I take a stool softener as constipation after my bowel surgery could be a total disaster!

06-04-2014, 05:55 PM
Trish I tried the CO mixed in my Atkins shake and I ended up throwing the top off in the sink. It made me nauseous to look at. But I did try it :) I don't like the nutty flavor of avocado or the taste or smell of actual coconut or the shredded kind either :) I never heard about keeping it below 120 until Shannon said it. I was told that it should be under 110 and 90 is even better but I have yet to do that but twice and that was recently. Here is the article below:

The Numerous Health Benefits of Coconuts

One of my all-time favorite fruits is the coconut. The Pacific Islanders believe that it is the cure for all illness, which is why the palm tree (from which coconuts are grown) is known as ďThe Tree of Life.Ē Coconut oil is thought to possess healing properties above and beyond that of any other dietary oils.

Eating coconuts are excellent for oneís immunity. They are antiviral, antifungal, antibacterial, and anti-parasitic, meaning they kill harmful bacteria, viruses, fungi, and parasites. Because of that, if you consume coconut in any of its various forms (whether it be raw coconut, coconut oil, coconut milk, coconut butter, etc.), it can help treat some of mankindís worst and most resilient of illnesses such as influenza, giardia, lice, throat infections, urinary tract infections, tapeworms, herpes, gonorrhea, bronchitis, and numerous other ailments caused by microbials.

Whether youíre eating the meat, drinking the juice, or consuming it as oil, coconuts are a delicious and nutritious source of fiber, vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. It has tons of calcium, potassium, and magnesium, as well as plenty of electrolytes. In fact, coconut water is known to have the same electrolyte levels as human plasma, and has even been used for plasma transfusions!

The oil is excellent for keeping one young and beautiful. Its antioxidant properties slow down the aging process by protecting the body from harmful free radicals. I like to put a little bit of coconut oil on my skin every day to keep it nice and smooth, as well as free from dryness. I apply it onto my skin before showering. The hot water opens my pores, allowing the oil to absorb through my skin more efficiently. Just make sure to wipe the bottom of the tub when youíre done, since the coconut oil can be slippery. Coconut oil is also known to treat skin disorders such as eczema, psoriasis, and dermatitis.

It also helps hair to become more healthy and lustrous. My hair has always been a bit on the dry, thin side, so I like to put coconut oil in it. On occasion, Iíll leave the oil in my hair overnight (covering my pillow with a towel so as to not get it oily) and wash it out in the morning. Iím always satisfied to find my hair is moist, radiant, and shiny. Itís a great alternative if you donít want to use a leave-in conditioner.

Eating coconuts also supports the development of strong, healthy bones and teeth. It does this by improving the bodyís ability to absorb calcium and magnesium. It also prevents osteoporosis, a condition in which the bones become thin and fragile and lose their density. This makes coconuts a good, healthy alternative for those who are lactose intolerant, but still want to have strong bones and teeth. Those who prefer a vegan diet can benefit from it as a good source of protein and fatty acids.

When coconut oil was first brought to the U.S., there was a lot of negative hype about it because it contains high levels of saturated fat. People were concerned that it increased cholesterol and contributed to heart diseaseóbut this is a myth. It actually lowers cholesterol and reduces the chances of heart disease. This is because its fat content is simply changed into energy, lessening the likelihood of fat buildup in the arteries and heart.

Carol Sue I still want to buy a vegetti. Glad you liked it. Have fun experimenting :)

06-05-2014, 09:13 AM
Rennie, I never thought that Avacado had a nutty flavor, although it is an unusual flavor. I love coconut. That's why I like that Almond Joy coffee creamer so much. I couldn't find it in WalMart of Target so I bought some Coffee Mate Girl Scout Cookie flavor. It's caramel and coconut like the Samoya cookie. I can't decide which one I like best.

Shannon, I cannot wear flip flops if I'm going to be walking around. I have to wear a built up shoe with a lot of support or my feet, legs and back will hurt. I can wear some sandals, if they are more closed in and snug enough to support my feet. The shoes I wear mostly in the summer are Easy Spirit. They are slip-ons similar to a clog, but they are soft material and don't have a lot of support and I can't wear them for a lot of walking. I do prefer a shoe I can slip on and off easily and wear without socks.

Last night I made pork and sauerkraut for dinner and I like mashed potatoes with sauerkraut so I thought I should take a glimiperide with it. I felt fine all evening but when I checked my bs before bed it was only 67! I guess my portion of potatoes wasn't enough to need the glimiperide, or I should have only taken 1/2. I know that 67 isn't THAT low, but I thought I should have been having some symptoms of hypoglycemia and I wasn't. I'll have to keep that in mind for the future.

06-05-2014, 02:09 PM
checking in here - I tend to now get back here very often!

I've used coconut oil for a while now and love it. I put it in my coffee (throw the coffee in the blender and add CO and some stevia) it blends in and you it doesn't taste oily at all.

I don't use it to saute as much as I do EVO but I did just buy a coconut oil spray from PAM so I'm using it more.

My favorite way to eat CO is by making skinny chocolate.
1/2 cup CO, 1/4 cup cocoa powder, 3-4 TBS of ground truvia, a scoop of protein powder. Mix it all together (taste it as you add the sweetener - I grind it in my bullet - add more as needed) I line a pan with foil and pour the mix in, freeze it and in about 10-15 minutes it will harden up. I cut it into squares and store it in a ziplock bag in the freezer. Sometimes I add skinny chocolate to my blended coffee. You can eat about a third of the recipe a day.

There are lots of variations you can make with it such as caramel extract or vanilla. I usually make it without the protein powder (that stuff is pricey) and it still works out well. It keeps things ahem "moving" when you are low carbing :)

06-05-2014, 04:05 PM
Hi Donna! Good to see you. This skinny chocolate is interesting. Can you eat it just like a piece of chocolate? How big of a pan do you use for this? I have some vanilla protein powder. You get a lot for your money. I think the CO is pricy for the size of the jar.

I was down to 2 cups of coffee per day, and I had switched to decaf. I always drank it black. Now that I started using the flavored creamer I'm drinking more and more because it tastes so good. I don't know if that's a good thing or not! LOL

I like your comment at the bottom of your posts. This is how I feel sometimes because progress is so slow, but I have changed my eating and now I eat so much healthier, even though I'm still eating too much. One step at a time. Meanwhile, DH has just cut back a little bit and the weight is just falling off. Go figure!

06-05-2014, 06:20 PM
Doctor's appt. went great. He walked and looked at me and said you are doing great. All my numbers are really good except he said I'm drinking too much water. My sodium was too low 132. A1c was down to 6.2 from previous 7.1 and my cholesterol is in the normal range. Even my triglycerides were in normal range. Bad cholesterol is down in normal range and good cholesterol was up but when I got my readout sheet, I noticed that it still needs to come up some. I am definitely going to using coconut and hope it helps bring it up. I did notice my blood count is barely normal so I need to be eating more iron rich foods.

He wouldn't give me the glimiperide because he said when you are losing weight and the pancreas is working that if he gave it to me that it would cause me to gain instead of lose weight. He said he knows my weight loss is slow but he encouraged me that he is glad that I'm losing slow because it will be better for me. I told him we were going to be traveling and he talked to me telling me little things to do when eating out if I had to eat fast food. So I will certainly take his advice.

He was thrilled with DH progress as well. He said DH pancreas doesn't work as well as mine so he was pleased that Tony's is coming down without insulin. Other numbers were better as well so he was excited about it. He found a new medicine that works with all of DH health issues and so he can now go off of the warfarin and go on it. So he won't have to go for all those blood draws every few weeks any more. And he can eat all the greens veggies he wants. Somehow it keeps it balanced. There is still a chance his blood could go too thin, but Tony will have to watch for any signs of such. It is a little pricey, but at least we can go on our trip and enjoy and not have to worry too much about it. Doc said "Go relax and enjoy your trip and have fun. So I'm very excited because we are so much healthier than we were three plus years ago when all these medical problems started.

Donna Thanks for the chocolate recipe. DH sure misses his chocolate and this just might do for him.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

I'm tired so I'm going to get comfortable and relax. Catch y'all later.

06-06-2014, 12:26 AM
Donna I'd like to know also if your recipe like eating a piece of chocolate? I sure would like to try it.

06-06-2014, 10:57 AM
I was gone on a playdate all day yesterday and started a new bible study last night so I'm behind in posting. I was waaay off plan yesterday. I had hoped to pack my own lunch to take to my friend's house but just ran out of time so I ate a very large amount of carbs yesterday at her house. Fortunately my FBS was 111. I was expecting worse. I did gain about 1.5 lbs so maybe I'll get that off before my weigh in Monday.

On flip flops....I have chronic severe plantar fasciitis that has not responded to many various treatments. I need surgery but as you can imagine, being off my feet for months at a time is not optimal with a small child. I've had it for about 8 yrs now so it can wait, lol. I may try to have it done when Olivia is in school full time. We'll see. Part of me is hoping when the weight is off and my diet has been better for a long time that it might go away. I weighed much less when it started though (probably 150) so I'm not holding my breath. For shoes I wear orthotics (the $$ ones) in my tennis shoes and wear Danskos for pretty much anything else, I have clog and sandal versions. My flip flops are expensive too, but I have worn them for 4 yrs now. In fact, other than tennis shoes, all my shoes are over 4 yrs old. The flip flops were the last new shoes I bought. Yowzers! Given that shoes are investment level for me I only own a handful. No cute or fancy shoes for me!

I made a new breakfast recipe today. It takes a little work but it is good and would be well received at a brunch if you needed to take something and wanted it to be low carb so you could eat it.


06-06-2014, 11:49 AM
Trish, I am so happy to year about your doctors appointment! The triglycerides come down when you cut back on carbs, so I am hoping mine come down, too. Of course, I am on meds for it, but if you eat too many carbs, the meds don't do any good. I am very curious to see what my lipids will be because of all the eggs I've been eating. I still use the substitute once in a while, and if my lipids are really bad I will go back to the substitute all the time.

Weight gain is one of the reasons I don't take the glimiperide unless I get a high reading for some reason. So far, it hasn't made me gain, but probably because I only take it occasionally. I'm probably not supposed to do that, but if I took it every day like it's prescribed I would have to eat more carbs to keep from going too low. I don't think that makes sense! So I test, test, test and only take it if I go high....like over 160. If it's lower than that, I can usually bring it down just by eating low carb, and small portions. Or I take if if I KNOW I'm going to eat a carby meal.

Shannon, I used to have mild plantar faciitis and I think I fixed it by doing exercising flexing my foot. Sometimes I start to feel the pain again and then I do the exercises again and stay away from the bad shoes for a while. If I know I'm going to be on my feet for a longer period of time I make sure I wear the right shoes.

I do hope you don't need the surgery. Olivia is going to be little for a while now! LOL

06-06-2014, 02:42 PM
Skinny chocolate is an aquired taste. I love it, but I had completely given up sugar and sweets for the better part of a year before trying it. The secret is to taste, taste taste as you are adding the sweetener. I like truvia or xylitol the best (note that xylitol is toxic to dogs don't share) and I usually start with 3 TBS and add more to taste. I pour it into an 8X8 glass dish and cut it into about 16 squares. I will eat a couple of squares when I'm feeling the need to snack.

This same recipe when in its liquid state can be poured over ice cream (sugar free/ low carb of course :) ) to make magic shell.

Wannabehealthy - I put that on my page because in the past I've gotten "stuck" and derailed myself. I feel so much better than I did a year ago that I don't want to go back. Ever! When I'm feeling kind of sorry for myself (like at my last A1c where the number didn't change at all and I hadn't lost weight for 3 months :P ) I know that I am progressing even if it's not a number on the scale.

06-06-2014, 03:57 PM
Donna, I might try the skinny chocolate. I don't know. I don't like sweets except for chocolate. It can't be chocolate cake, just plain chocolate, like Hershey Kisses. I don't buy any artificial sweeteners so that would be a big change for me to buy it just to make this chocolate. Chocolate itself is toxic to dogs, so I wouldn't be giving it to him anyway.

I was in the store today and I looked for the CO Pam but didn't see it. I will have to check a different store. I might use it more if I had that. I use the olive oil spray all the time.

06-06-2014, 10:01 PM
Had a really busy day. Down to one week until we leave and had to go to Sam's and a few other things. I have a slue of things to do just to get ready.

I've had a touch of plantar fasciitis over the years, but I haven't had them consistently. Had it one time only when I wore a certain pair of shoes. I stopped wearing those shoes and didn't have them any more until a few year ago and some one told me to stand on the edge of a door step and rock back and forth going up almot tip toe and then curve the foot down a few times and it will go away. Since then whenever I feel like it is coming on, I do that and so far it works every time. Don't know if that would help you any Shannon or not, but you might try it. Even if it would give a little bit of relief, it might help until you can have surgery.

Donna It is the benefits of this way of eating that keeps me working towards it. I have to remind myself when the scale doesn't move that at least it didn't go up. I copied the chocolate recipe and I will try it when I come back home. Unless, I decide to take the recipe with me and make it for her and me in memory of all the times our Mama used to make fudge when our Daddy was gone at night. That just might be fun. LOL

Rennie I think you were the one who told me about the Mini Moos. I got the half and half ones for my trip so will be able to drink DH DS strong coffee. Also when I make coffee in the motels, I won't have to use their powdered junk. Thanks for the heads up on it. In fact, I may purchase those all the time for portion accuracy.

Carol Sue I use both regular eggs and substitutes. I like the Southwestern style eggbeaters because I don't have to add peppers/onion unless I just want to and they are also good for an omelet or sandwich.

Nothing really new here. Everything is about the same. FBS was back down to 122 and weight was the same. Holding my 221. So all is good.

Y'all have a great week end.

06-07-2014, 12:57 AM
Hey ladies Sorry I have not been on here lately but I have been so busy I swear their is not enough hours in a day. On the other side of that I have lost a whopping 66 pounds to date . I hope all is doing well. Hello to all the newbies out their. I hope to pop in here alot sooner then the last time.

06-07-2014, 07:35 AM
Bonnie! I am so glad to hear from you and glad that things are going well. 66 lbs! Wow! You have been one busy lady! How is all your family doing? How is your blood sugar now that you have lost all that weight?

Don't stay away so long!

06-07-2014, 07:41 AM
Trish, when I had the plantar fasciitis I used to sit with my leg straight out and flex my foot, pushing downward with my heel. But my case was a mild one and was probably just from wearing certain shoes.

I was able to exercise yesterday without any palpitations, so I guess it was the coffee (caffeine) that was doing it. I was really drinking a lot, probably 10 cups a day. Now that I drink decaf I'm only drinking about 2 cups per day because DH still makes regular coffee in our big coffee maker and I make my decaf in a little 2 cup coffee maker we have. Once I drink those 2 cups I switch to cold drinks. Once winter is back I might start drinking more coffee again.

06-07-2014, 10:09 AM
Thanks girls! The stretching helps in the morning but doesn't seem to make much difference in the big picture. I have had a lot of physical therapy, chiropractic treatment, shots, contraptions to wear, etc. Nothing has reversed it. That is why my dr has decided the only treatment that will correct it is surgery....but again I'd like to get to my goal before then in hopes that it might correct. Part of why I went with eliminating wheat/sugar, aside from prediabetes, was to try to reduce inflammation in my body in hopes I might see a change. I was able to walk for 30 min twice this week at the Y, that is actually improvement for me so I'm very cautiously hopeful. Usually I only do water based exercise or bicycle based bc of my feet but I've needed some extra prayer time lately and walking is more conducive to that.

BS was 105 last night and FBS 104. If my meter really does run high like I think, I have actually been having alot of "normal" readings lately....even when I've eaten off plan....that is super good news! Yesterday I stayed on plan but my weight was about the same. Curious to see what it is on Monday.

I have so much I need to do this weekend. I have no idea how I will get it all done. I must attempt to find a new bathing suit locally. If I don't find something I feel comfortable with I will order online but bathing suits are one of those things I'd rather try on if I can. I guess I need to hit up some plus sized stores today.

Speaking of clothes, my sweet BFF has occasionally bought me a tshirt when she has gone fun places. I have two that have never been worn. I didn't have the heart to tell her there was no way I could fit my head in a Large. I thought it was super sweet that she thought a Large would fit, lol. I have been in a 2X for years. Anyway, yesterday I was cleaning out a drawer and found the two never worn. I can get them on my body now! They are too fitted for me to actually want to wear them but wow, I can get them on!

06-07-2014, 10:22 AM
Trish congrats on the improved numbers!! So glad for you!

Bonnie congrats on the weight loss, that is so awesome! I haven't gotten to 'meet' you, hope you'll be back soon!

Carol Sue it took me a while to find a coffee combination I like bc I never drank it until the last year or so. I use Dunkin Donut coffee and add 2 splenda and several tbsp half and half. I actually enjoy it like that. The flavored creamers were good but I could never get it to the exact sweetness (this was when I used regular sugar and regular creamers). Alot of folks in my low carb group like the sugar free Torani syrups (at Walmart). I haven't tried those.

Rennie :wave:

06-07-2014, 10:51 AM
Been experimenting with CO and fasting.

CO so far just 2 tsp a day and still have my olive oil in my salad. Things are moving along (if you know what I mean) much better.

The idea of having fewer meals for which insulin needs to be produced intrigues me. I read several places about the idea that an 17-18 hour fast everyday was good for diabetes, helping immune system, etc. Also, I have noticed on Saturdays and Sundays I normally eat this way and feel energetic and even tempered. So eat at 6pm and then eat again at 11am - twice a day. I modified to have a hard boiled egg and CO only at 7-8am and light exercise in the morning and it doesn't raise my bs much at all. Big jump in weight loss this week (for me). Been exercising for 20 minutes before dinner also.

FBS steady around 115 all week. Ok but not great since I really eat very few carbs except for vegs, beans, some fruit and 1 rice cake each day. I do find that my FBS is a little higher when I woosh some pounds on the scale. Anyone else notice this?

06-07-2014, 01:32 PM
Carol Sue, even with the flavored sugar free creamer I can still only drink one travel cup (16-20ozs) otherwise coffee gives me a stomach ache :) It amazes me how quickly men drop weight. :) Carol Sue maybe by the time winter comes you'll be use to drinking only two cups so that will be a new good habit set in place ;)

Trish glad to hear yours and your husbands appts went well :) Trish I tried that for portion control and still used too many :)

Shannon, that recipe looks really good. Of course my son and I are gonna try it ;)

Donna sorry for all of the questions, when you say an acquired taste is it like eating dark chocolate or a little sweeter. I hate dark chocolate. It's not sweet at all IMO and I would rather eat nothing than to eat it.

Bonnie good to see you and :congrat: on 66lbs GONE nice work :)

ok be back to catch on this page the boys want to go to the gym

06-07-2014, 02:32 PM
Thanks Carol Sue My family is doing ok . Had to go to New Jersey to pick up my daughter . We found her and her hubby a place to live so they are good. My son is also looking for a place for him and his girl friend. Yeah I only will have the baby home but she not too much of a baby she is 16 and is going into the 11 grade this year. As for my aunt it is what is it is.

Shannon , Thanks I will hopefully be around more. Hope to hear more from you.

Rennie , Thanks Its been hard but I have come along way since January.

Ob christmas my hubby bought me the fit bit and I love it. I went in the bathroom weighed myself and I weighed in at 307 I new I had to do some thing . I started cutting back on my food and I had to go to my Dr for my knees they have been so bad all they would do is pop and hurt so we talked and he told me I needed to loose weight and If I was to have knee surgery that it wouldnt help cause of my weight. He told me he could help .

He put me on phentermine. I see him every two weeks and he has helped me threw all of this . My knees has quit hurting and I am no longer having problems with them except my arthritis . I can say now I am down to 241 pounds and going I have been walking every night I try for 3 miles every night last night I did 4 miles and the heat index is up here so I am drenched when I get home but I feel so good when I get home. My Dr told me I can drop my glimpzide now and see how it does. So I am gonna try and see how it goes.

Well I guess I better be going I have so much I need to get done before every one comes home.

06-07-2014, 03:56 PM
love2B150 - it all depends on how much sweetener you use. I use Truvia which is a nice blend of erythriol and stevia- I think it tastes like sugar and I don't get any aftertaste. Good chocolate make a difference, I know people that only use ghiardelli cocoa and they swear by it. I buy my cocoa from the amish store and like it fine. There are a lot of add in that you can use to make it more special, I sometimes put a few frozen berries in an ice cube tray and pour the skinny chocolate over it, then freeze again. I usually leave out the strawberries because they are huge and you really can't bite into a frozen strawberry (though I have dipped fresh strawberries in my skinny chocolate and popped them in the freezer for a few minutes) or pop a couple of almonds in the ice cube tray before pouring in the chocolate.

I've made a version where I ran 1/2 cup of cottage cheese in the blender until smooth and then added that to my skinny chocolate - it comes out with a creamy fudge consistancy - you can chill it in the fridge instead of the freezer.

06-07-2014, 04:12 PM
Bonnie, I remember about your knee problems and I'm glad they are feeling better. Do you have any side effects from the phentermine? All that walking has to be helping with your blood sugar.

I like your new picture, by the way.

Rennie, I like dark chocolate but my favorite it Hersheys Kisses. I can't buy them because I would eat the whole bag in one day. I always think "I need to get rid of these and get back on my diet tomorrow." One time I bought them for my grandson and told DH to hide them from me. Well, DGS came and brought out the whole bag, so it was all over.

But my husband has cookies and pies around here all the time and they never interest me. Good thing!

06-07-2014, 05:21 PM
Bonnie What a really nice surprise to see you here again and you are really looking good girl. CONGRATULATIONS :cheer2::cheer3: on the 66 lb loss. I am so very happy for you and especially for the improved knees. I know how you struggled for so long. So glad things have improved for you and your family. Please keep coming back.

Carol Sue My experience with the plantar fasciitis has been very mild too. I notice it more when it is time for me to get new shoes. I hope when I lose more weight that it will go away completely.

Shannon So sorry your case is so severe. I also hope yours will go away with the weight loss. We will pray it will happen for you.

Rennie and Donna I am like Carol Sue. I too like dark chocolate like Hersheys, but I don't like the Cacao type. Just too bitter for me. I had a couple of large ones for a while because I never could learn to like them. Ended up giving them to DH DDIL when they visited and she said that she loved them. My favorite is really Dove bite size, but haven't bought them in a long time because I started out eating 2 a day and then I would have 3 and when I ended up eating a whole portion (according to Weight Watcher's), I knew I was getting hooked and I quit buying them.

Kris I used to do the 19 hour fast and 5 hr eating window and I really enjoyed doing it, but my doctor didn't like me going so long without food. So I would have a protein shake with fruit around 11 an or noon and then eat around 2 and then close my window around 7 pm or 8 pm doing an 8 hr window 16 hr fast. My fbs was pretty good when eating that way. I just might try that again. I also used to do a tsp of CO in the morning in my coffee rather than the Tbls and then use a tsp in a veggie later and have a salad with EVOO and ACV. That really made my fbs good. I just might have to re-think some of that.

Hope I didn't miss anyone.

Fatmad and Ruthie Thinking of y'all and miss you.

Catch y'all tomorrow. Have a nice evening and Sunday.

06-07-2014, 06:32 PM
Shannon yay on being able to put the shirts on. I have shirts that I couldn't wear that I can not get on now also feels good. In talking about feet I don't have any problems other than every now and then my toe next to my big toe hurting but I was told by someone on another thread that it may be my running shoes. I have broken both of my feet so maybe having them set in a cast has alleviated any issues that I could have had. I hope you don't have to have surgery and weight loss helps work it out. :hug: I like the Torani caramel. pretty good :)

kris that happens to me, if the scale is down fbs goes up. Not sure why. I like your eating plan twice a day, sounds easy enough for me to try and not fall off the wagon :)

Bonnie look at you, YOU LOOK GREAT and I can hear the happiness in your post :hug: I am so happy for you :hug: I soooo want a fitbit, one of these days :)

Wow Donna a lot of variations, thanks, that's good to know :) I bought the ghiradelli chocolate and some dark chocolate chips a while ago so they will definitely come in handy for your chocolate recipe because they are too bitter for me plain, yuck :)

Carol Sue, I so envy the fact that you don't like junk food. I so wish that was me, that is my main issue for sure well that and chips :D I love milk chocolate kisses and the ones with caramel, so good. I can eat 1-3 and be done. My husband keeps them around but they don't temp me, not sure why, but that's a good thing right ;)

Trish I have the Cacao brand also. I bought different kinds to try. My SIL can eat it just plan, he likes it. I think I just don't like dark chocolate probably :D I'm really liking the idea of you and Kris' fasting. I am gonna give it a shot.

Well I made it to the gym my husband said I am going too fast I need to slow down. I don't know if he was joking or serious but I will keep doing what is helping me. My fbs is back in the 130's but my eating hasn't been on point either. Once I get my head totally back in the game I should be fine.

06-07-2014, 11:58 PM
Bonnie - Nice to meet you and very happy to hear about your successes!

Trish - You are way ahead of me in all your knowledge and experience! I always know when I've read about some diabetic theory that you have probably already researched/tried/still do/maybe discarded the idea. You have been a great source of information for me.

Shannon - your BS is so good lately! Good for you. I went shopping today and was happy to fit in smaller sizes too. Really is an incentive to continue!

06-08-2014, 10:24 AM
Kris I think that is because I'm with this like I was with diets. If I haven't tried it, I can guarantee it is because I haven't heard of it yet. LOL Some times that is NOT a blessing. However, I am glad you mentioned the fasting (sorry can't remember the name right now). I actually did very well on that but stopped it because my doctor didn't like me fasting on it. I heard a man on youtube talk about how his wife ate this way 5 hour eating window and reversed diabetes and was healthier than when she was younger. I've decided after reading your message that I am going to use this way of eating on my trip. I appreciate you sharing about it.

06-08-2014, 11:20 AM
Kris and Trish, I prefer a long fast too, but maybe not as long as you are talking. I usually have breakfast by 10 AM. We usually eat supper around 4, and sometimes earlier because DH doesn't eat much during the day. If I make sure I eat enough of foods that I like at supper I don't eat during the evening. So my fast is from about 6 PM until 9 or 10 AM. Not bad.

For much of my life I was not a supper eater. When I was a kid I didn't like a lot of things my mother prepared. I didn't know at the time that I just didn't like supper food. If you didn't eat dinner, you didn't get to have something else, and food was so short that it was a good thing for everyone else if you didn't want to eat. My mother never MADE us eat. As an adult, I controlled my weight that way because my thinking was that I was more active during the day and needed the calories, but rather sedentary during the evening and didn't need calories. After my step-children got married DH didn't want to eat alone so I started eating supper with him, but didn't eliminate breakfast or lunch. I gained 60 lbs in a few months! Now that I'm not working, I'm trying to eat breakfast late enough that I don't need lunch, since we eat supper so early. The only problem is, lunch is when I usually eat my kale, but that is really low calorie and so nutrition dense that it's almost more of a snack than a meal. I am considering working the kale in at supper instead of having it for lunch. DH won't eat it, but I could make a different veggie for him. I have to get my volume of eating under control.

I think I heard somewhere that it's bad for diabetics to go too long without a meal because the body thinks your starving and releases glucose, actually more than you need, and it raises your blood sugar. I have never tested that theory. Sounds like something I could try and see if it's true. Did you ever notice that sometimes you'll get up and have fairly decent BS but if you don't eat and test again later, it's higher? That has happened to me sometimes. On another really strict diabetes forum they say to eat as soon as you get up to stop the dawn phenomenon. But if I don't eat anything after supper, I don't get the dawn phenomenon. Everyone is different. Isn't that what we always say?

Trish, most doctors frown on doing anything that is outside the box, even if it works. I'm not telling you not to listen to the doctor, but I think it would be OK for you to test the theory and see how it works FOR YOU. He doesn't have to know.

I also have 2 links I want to share. This first one is about sandwich choices when eating at fast food joints.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/ss/slideshow-worst-sandwiches-and-wraps?ecd=wnl_dia_060814&ctr=wnl-dia-060814_ld-stry&mb=HpSunk8ip3Uc5kSGWbvGfeHnVev1imbC%40yNm4PCC9sE%3 d

This second one is about how exercising longer and maybe even slower can help raise HDL, which is usually very hard to do.


I had forgotten about this article, and now that I found it in my bookmarks, I think I will get back to my 60-90 min exercise at a little slower pace.

06-08-2014, 02:52 PM
Carol Sue I actually read that women can actually do as much as a 9 hr easting window and fast only 15 hrs and still lose weight nicely. Also there are some who drink juices/liquids during their fasts. That is when I learned that I could use Stevia and h & h in my coffee and it didn't raise my bs. So I would drink my coffee during the morning to hold me over until about 11 or 12 and of then eat an 8 hr window from either 11 to 7 or noon to 8 pm. Since I've gotten out of the habit of nighttime eating, I think I could switch and make my eating window more of a 10 to 6 instead. When traveling on the road, we usually eat around 10ish and then again around 3 or 4. It would be easy to start practicing this on the trip and then just stick with it when I get home.

I actually found when I did this before that the longer I went before my first meal, the better fbs reading I had even after drinking the coffee using the h & h and Stevia.

Carol Sue I don't do vigorous exercise any more. I had read before that doing the exercise more constant and relaxed was better. Also, Dr. Agistatn, in his last SBD book said that alternatingly walking briskly a few minutes and then slower so on was better than walking fast. So when I remember, I try to do that on my bike. I don't know if it helps or not.

I haven't exercised much the past week. My back has hurt so badly. I will try doing some exercises today hoping that it will begin to go away. My doctor seem to think it was either muscle or bones, but I didn't say much since I'm going on this trip. I really hate having 2 weeks with no exercise. We will do lots of walking in museums in 2 places we are going. Other than that I'm not sure there will be much walking. Will have to really make an effort to get some walking done. We plan to hit some grocery stores to keep healthy fruits and veggies on hand, so maybe we can turn it into some sort of exercise.

I plan to do as my doc said and just enjoy my trip and try to keep a focus on my goal as I go.

Thanks for the link you shared on eating fast foods, maybe it will be helpful as well.

06-08-2014, 05:27 PM
BTW I forgot to tell you girls that I was telling my doctor about all of you and how we are about the same place on our plans and share what we are experiencing and learn from each other. He was SOOO thrilled that I had y'all and really was pleased that I have such a great support group. He said it was great when a group comes together and learns from each other and supports each other like we do. He said we have a better chance of success. I was thrilled :carrot: to share with him about our little support group. Y'all are so good for me. :hug: Thanks for being here.

06-08-2014, 07:00 PM
Trish I have found that if I have longer between dinner and fbs my reading is better also. Trish hope your back gets better soon :hug: I love this group also. You ALL are quite informative :)

06-08-2014, 08:33 PM
The possible dawn phenomena is why I have been eating a hard boiled egg in the morning. I figure with the protein and fat it should keep me on an even keel until I "break the fast" at 11 am.

The best tip for me is fat and protein every time I eat (including 2 tbls CO and probably 3 TBL olive oil in evening salad) and 15 minute cardio in the morning and the evening. Keeps me much more even. And I am losing more weight! We'll see how that works this week.

I made an herb garden in my kitchen last month. I love snipping different kinds of basil, oregano, thyme and rosemary, especially for my salad. The smells are scrumptious!

06-08-2014, 11:37 PM
I've had two very off plan evenings last night and tonight.....I feel gross! LOL! It has been a crazy weekend. My husband traded in two of our three cars for a new truck this weekend. It is huge, like a boat. A really large boat. My daughter has been very sad. She LOVED Daddy's Jeep, Mr. Jeepers and we always told her it would be hers one day but we decided to go down to two vehicles and we got a really nice trade in value for him. She likes the truck but is still not over losing Mr. Jeepers. Hopefully time will heal her little broken heart.

06-09-2014, 10:13 AM
Where is everyone? Lol! I'm usually last to post in the morning.

My off plan weekend eating is making my Monday weigh ins not as nice....but that is why I picked Monday (so that my sneak peeks during the week would encourage me by being less) so I guess I shouldn't complain. Lost one pound this week based on weekly weigh in but during the week I had a low that showed almost a two pound loss. Oh well, it's a marathon not a sprint right?

FBS was 105 today.

06-09-2014, 11:26 AM
Shannon, I woke up early this morning, but then fell back to sleep and just got up at 9:30. That's really late for me, but I think my body needed the extra sleep.

I don't think Monday is a good day for weigh-in, LOL, unless you have yourself braced for the worst. I don't have an official weigh-in day, but if I did, I would like Friday...before the weekend! I make sure I get on the scale at least once a week, but I am reluctant to do it when I think I have gained. I have to force myself to face facts.

DH wanted to trade in 2 cars once, but I love our Monte Carlo so much and want to keep it a while longer. It has 100,000 miles on it, but he takes very good care of it. I don't drive a lot, but when I drive it, it feels like it was made for me. So we just found a buyer for the other car and now we have the Monte, and his hot rod Camaro, which he only drives to car cruises. 71 years old and he's hot rodding around like a teenager!

We went to the casino yesterday, and even though I did not eat any carbs, I ate a LOT. Lots of veggie and meat...chicken, steak and grilled sausage. It was buffet so these were smaller pieces of meat, but still I filled my plate twice and ate beyond the point of satiety. We ate around 5 and got home around 11. My blood sugar was 124, but when I got up this morning it was 116. It is rarely lower in the morning. I feel that I have my eating under control as far as carbs are concerned...most times I pass on them...so now I need to work on my portions and IE. I think that as long as I am not eating carbs I can overeat, and that's why my weight is stalled. I am not actually hungry for breakfast this morning, so I will probably be eating more of a brunch today and I'm cooking a turkey breast for dinner.

I would be very happy with a 1 lb a week loss. I lose a couple, gain a few, lose a few, gain a couple.

Kris, tell me more about how you did your herb garden. I would like to do that.

06-09-2014, 12:18 PM
Just coming back to report on the Bulletproof Coffee. I tried it today since I was able to get some grass fed butter over the weekend. So, I made my coffee and added 1 tsp of the butter and 1 tsp of coconut oil. The key is blending it really well to thoroughly mix the oils in (in a blender or with an immersion blender, don't think you'll get same results with spoon). I then added my sugar sub as usual. I did not add my usual half and half. The coffee turned a light brown shade and was very frothy from the blender. My first sip was a little oily feeling but after that I didn't really notice other than that my lips stayed nicely moisturized. The flavor was surprisingly rich. It was a very different taste from my usual coffee but not in a bad way, just different. I really can't imagine advancing to a tbsp of both oils but could drink it again at this amount. The coconut flavor, to me, is strong in this, which I don't love but it's not bad, just strong. I do feel like I will need to go potty but my regular coffee does that too.

Editing to add after talking with folks online, they say "refined" coconut oil tastes less coconutty and they recommend adding a little heavy whipping cream.

06-09-2014, 03:20 PM
love bulletproof coffee! I had mine after noon today and it was soooo good! I'm going to have a fat stripping frappe this afternoon. Low cal and tastes like a Wendy's frosty.

1/2 cup water
1/2 cup almond milk
1/2 cup 1% or non fat cottage cheese (blend it all together and while the blender is going)

add 1/2 tsp of gluccoman or xanthum gum
2 TBS of cocoa
sweetener of choice (Truvia for me)
20 ice cubes
blend until the consistancy of a milkshake. (I sometimes add a piece of my skinny chocolate to get little choco bits in my frappe)

the original recipe includes a scoop of protein powder, but I sub in the cottage cheese)

06-09-2014, 06:48 PM
Nothing much to report. I over slept this morning had to drive two of the kids to school. Came back still tired, laid down for a 3 hour nap. Weight good, fbs 121 today.

06-09-2014, 07:21 PM
love bulletproof coffee! I had mine after noon today and it was soooo good! I'm going to have a fat stripping frappe this afternoon. Low cal and tastes like a Wendy's frosty.

1/2 cup water
1/2 cup almond milk
1/2 cup 1% or non fat cottage cheese (blend it all together and while the blender is going)

add 1/2 tsp of gluccoman or xanthum gum
2 TBS of cocoa
sweetener of choice (Truvia for me)
20 ice cubes
blend until the consistancy of a milkshake. (I sometimes add a piece of my skinny chocolate to get little choco bits in my frappe)

the original recipe includes a scoop of protein powder, but I sub in the cottage cheese)

I will try that! I have protein powder that I never know what to do with.

06-10-2014, 07:52 AM
I have a ? I went to the dr yesterday and my glucose was 123. I was on a fast. She said that is prediabetic. I went and ate then checked my glucose 2 hrs later and it was 104. My A1c is. 5.9.
I eat dinner before 6 always and never eat a bite of anything till about 7 am. Could I be going to long between eating? I know my hubby goes thru spells of needing a healthy snack before bed.

06-10-2014, 09:20 AM
dgramie, Hi, and welcome to our Diabetes Chat! If I had an A1c of 5.9 and a two hour postprandial of 104 I would be jumping for joy! I don't know what to tell you about the fasting of 123. It does signify prediabetes. Could it have been a fluke? How often do you test your fasting glucose? Do you regularly get readings in the 120s? I would start testing FBG regularly and keeping a record. If it remains on the high side, you could try eating an evening snack for a week or so and see if that makes a difference. But I think that not eating after dinner is a good thing, and if you get into the habit of having an evening snack it could be a hard habit to break somewhere down the line. For me, no snacking after dinner is best. Anytime I eat in the evening, I can count on my FBG being higher than when I went to bed. Everyone is different, so you will need to know what works for you. Depending on what your diet is normally, I would cut back on starchy carbs like sweets, bread, rice, pasta, and get some exercise every day. This should help lower your FBG. Losing some weight would help too, but if that was easy, I'd be doing it! LOL

If you are prediabetic, you are in the early stages and you should be able to nip it in the bud, but it will probably be something to be concerned about the rest of your life.

Please come back and let us know how things are going. The more people we add to our little group, the more information we can learn from each other.

06-10-2014, 09:36 AM
My turkey breast turned out delicious yesterday. It wasn't warm enough to have the air condition running but I didn't want to heat up the house using the oven for a long time so I cooked it on the gas grill. I heated the right side to medium and put the turkey breast on the left side with the lid closed. All I did was butter the skin a bit for browning. It took about 3 hours, a little longer than it would take in the oven, but I heard that low and slow is good for turkey. I usually don't like white meat because it's dry, but this was very moist and tender. This is my new way to cook turkey breast. I also put a couple potatoes in with it. I rarely make baked potatoes because they take so long to cook, but since the grill was on anyway...... They were on the small side and turned out great, with a nice crispy skin. Yum. I ate mine, and my blood sugar went up a bit, but not a major spike like I get with bread. It was tasty, but I know not to make a habit of it.

I just finished reading a book called "The Big Fat Surprise." It was about low fat vs low carb/high fat. It quoted studies showing that sat fat is NOT the problem with heart disease but rather high carb is. It was not in reference to weight loss but heart disease instead. After years of being told to eat low fat it's very hard to change my thinking. But they make sense when they say that although many people have turned to low fat, the cases of heart disease have increased. I keep thinking of that woman I know who follows the Dean Ornish low fat diet but has had 5 heart attacks. Apparently low fat isn't working for her.

Now I am reading Don't Go Hungry for Life. I just started it so I can't really say where it's going. It seems to be related to the Set Point Diet and also Intuitive Eating. I'll let you know if I learn anything from it.

Both of these books were recommended somewhere on 3FC. I will have to try to find the threads again to give my input.

06-10-2014, 09:41 AM
Lotsakids, when you say you are subbing the cottage cheese for the protein powder do you mean if I use protein powder I don't need the cottage cheese?

And what does the gluccoman or xanthum gum do? I don't usually buy those things. Do you make this in a blender? Otherwise, where would 20 ice cubes fit? Does this make 1 serving?

06-10-2014, 09:46 AM
Thanks carol sue!! I have been a daily poster in the 300lb thread for many yrs. my hubby is diabetic and we watch carbs. My highest weight was 308. I last 90 lbs and gained 60 back over the course of 6 yrs. I have 18 back off and walking or gardening daily.
My fbs was 133 this morning. My dinner was at 6 and I ate 20 grams of carbs total. I will continue working on it this wk and test it a few times a day. If it stays up I will try a light snack.
I found out my potassium is low and I start a pill today for that.

06-10-2014, 09:56 AM
Lotsakids, when you say you are subbing the cottage cheese for the protein powder do you mean if I use protein powder I don't need the cottage cheese?

And what does the gluccoman or xanthum gum do? I don't usually buy those things. Do you make this in a blender? Otherwise, where would 20 ice cubes fit? Does this make 1 serving?

Not directed at me but I can answer. Yes, if you use the powder you do not need the cottage cheese. The xanthum gum is a thickening agent and can be found in a tiny pkg at Walmart for around 50 cent. This is made in the blender. I have made something fairly identical to this (I remembered later), here is the recipe I followed. It did not taste quite like a frosty to me but it was not bad either.

06-10-2014, 10:34 AM
Thanks Shannon. The 210 calories doesn't make me happy, though. I can't think of anything I would get rid of to fit this in.

dgrmie, the fasting glucose has me stumped, especially with the A1c. My fasting used to run in the 120s all the time but my doctor wasn't concerned because my A1c was in the 6's. We totally missed my pre-diabetic period and I was diagnosed Type 2 while in the hospital recouperating from cardiac bypass surgery.

When do you do your exercise? Sometimes a 15 min walk in the evening after dinner will help with fasting glucose.

06-10-2014, 12:48 PM
I called the dr office today with questions. They said anything above 5.5 is prediabetic.

06-10-2014, 03:47 PM
I called the dr office today with questions. They said anything above 5.5 is prediabetic.

At my last visit I saw my doc's cheat sheet and 6.2% is diabetic. I had been at 6 in Dec and they were expecting me to be diagnosed by my next appointment in April but I started low carb and lowered it. I have been prediabetic for about 7 years. My fasting levels had been in the 115-125 range but now they are running closer to 100-110.

06-10-2014, 04:22 PM
Donna I made the frappe thing again today. I added a little more sugar sub. this time and it was better, still not tasting like a frosty though, lol!

06-10-2014, 08:26 PM
dgramie Welcome. I don't know much about prediabetic as my doctor doesn't use that term. With him, your either are or not diabetic. However, my last A1c was 6.2 and he was happy with that. For me eating night snacks don't work. We've all kind of learned around here that what works for one doesn't always works for all. I agree with Carol Sue your fbs is low enough that you should be able to get it under control. I would experiment with eating a evening snack and not eating a snack and then test the next day to see how it affects your fbs. There are many things most diabetics can eat, but through testing my bs throughout the day, I have learned that I cannot eat certain foods just because another diabetic can.

I'm just checking in to let y'all know that I am still around for a few more days. We will be leaving early Saturday morning around 7ish headed to IN. I will try to check in again before I leave and will take my laptop so I'll heck in from time to time while on my trip.

Eating as been fair. I've been having an Atkins shake with fruit for breakfast and eating 2 meals. Haven't been good about not eating snacks, but will work on that one.

A lot to do, but just wanted to drop in and say :wave: Hi!

06-10-2014, 10:28 PM
I'm having some difficulty with this book Don't Go Hungry for Life. The woman who wrote it is from Australia and all the discussions about weight loss, calories, measurements are in the metric system, which people in my age group were never taught, at least I wasn't. I will have to google a little cheat sheet to understand what she's talking about.

The only thing I've learned so far is that when you hit a plateau and your weight won't budge your body is adjusting to a new Set Point. Instead of getting discouraged, eat a little bit more, and your body will start losing again. Also, she says that besides weighing you should also measure your waistline regularly. Sometimes the scale doesn't move, but the waist measurement will. And when you exercise, it makes your muscles absorb fluid and glycogen, which will make you weigh more. (the reason they say muscle weighs more than fat.) I am only a couple chapters into this.

I'm tired and I'm going to bed early.


06-10-2014, 10:37 PM
I'm having some difficulty with this book Don't Go Hungry for Life. The woman who wrote it is from Australia and all the discussions about weight loss, calories, measurements are in the metric system, which people in my age group were never taught, at least I wasn't. I will have to google a little cheat sheet to understand what she's talking about.

The only thing I've learned so far is that when you hit a plateau and your weight won't budge your body is adjusting to a new Set Point. Instead of getting discouraged, eat a little bit more, and your body will start losing again. Also, she says that besides weighing you should also measure your waistline regularly. Sometimes the scale doesn't move, but the waist measurement will. And when you exercise, it makes your muscles absorb fluid and glycogen, which will make you weigh more. (the reason they say muscle weighs more than fat.) I am only a couple chapters into this.

I'm tired and I'm going to bed early.


Interesting.....that fits with what alot of folks in my low carb group are saying. They claim that when their weightloss stalls they eat higher carb for day then go back to low carb and they start losing again. Most of them are on Atkins.

06-11-2014, 07:39 AM
My fbs was 116 this morning. It's going down hopefully I can get it below 100 before long. I checked it at 5pm before eating dinner and it was 97. So basically my readings are great except overnight.

Hubby is helping me monitor my eating which is truly funny.
Took a morning walk yesterday and plan to again today.
Thanks for letting me post here.

06-11-2014, 10:09 AM
dgramie, the more posters we have, the more information we get, so stick around!

I'm still waiting for this book to speak to me. I do not track. I try from time to time, but never stick to it. She recommends also making a notation before and after eating about how you feel....degree of hunger....degree of satisfaction. This is to make you aware that you are actually hungry when you eat, or that you are satisfied rather than stuffed. Although it's a good theory, I don't see myself doing that. It might help, but I'm not into it. There are those who swear by it.

I sure hope I get something from this book because I actually bought this one. It was not available at the library.

06-11-2014, 10:54 AM
Carol Sue I'm not into tracking food or feelings either. I think I've told you my binge eating disorder developed after being on WW (and reaching Lifetime). Ever since then if I even think too much about tracking, much less write anything down, I binge. I have read alot on this and many others have had a similar reaction. Apparently some scientists feel that the tracking can become obsessive and can feel like you are being controlled by numbers. I don't pretend to understand it, I just know, for me, it is dangerous. That being said I seem to be stalling at 23 lbs lost. I have had a number of Atkins followers tell me that "reducing carbs" without counting typically only produces a 20-25 lb loss. That is in the back of my mind but also Diamondgeog (3FC member who got on my nerves because he was too zealous but I agreed with alot of what he was pushing) claimed he lost all of his weight (I think it was around 100 lbs) without any counting so I don't know. I guess I will keep on the way I'm going unless I don't lose for much longer.

FBS 106 today but weight is up. I think the pork rinds got me, lol! I'm going to get as much water in today as I can and see if it's just sodium.

06-11-2014, 12:48 PM
FBS 106 today but weight is up. I think the pork rinds got me, lol! I'm going to get as much water in today as I can and see if it's just sodium.

I think this is something in the Carolina water! LOL Both you and Rennie have that issue. She's missing again, by the way. I TOLD her not to do that! My FBG never has any correlation with my weight. My FBG is up because I ate rice yesterday, not only the small amount I put in the stuffed peppers but also ate the leftover rice. So what good did it do to only put a small amount in the peppers if I'm just going to eat extra? I usually make a cup of rice, but I think I will have to switch to 1/2 cup since I know I'm not going to use the whole cup. I think I secretly just want to have some left over to eat. DH has switched from cereal in the evening to rice with milk and sugar. And he's losing weight.

You know how I always say I don't like salty snacks? Well I found something to prove me wrong. DH bought these things called Ritz Toasted Chips Sour Cream and Onion Flavor. I love them and can't quit eating them. He said he's not going to buy they again because they raised his blood pressure. Boy am I glad, because I could not handle knowing they are in the house. Meanwhile there's a bag of pretzels going stale....

06-11-2014, 01:48 PM
Hey all, back today. My FBS this morning was 99! Whoot. my weight 185

You could try adding a bit more cocoa to your frappe, understand I went almost a year not eating anything sweet so my tastes might be a bit different.

Wannabe.. I kind of believe the set point thing, I have had a rough time getting below 188, I stalled at the end of January and nothing was budging it. I think that may be a set point for me. I've changed things up (again) and I've started to see some movement.

06-11-2014, 02:03 PM
Donna, I am hoping that her theory about the Set Point is true, because she said that once you are at a lower weight for a while it becomes your new Set Point until you lose enough to get a new Set Point. I know when I was thin I was in the low 130s, but I constantly battled to get down to 120. I would get into the 120s but unless I starved myself I couldn't stay there. I finally accepted the low 130s and was able to stay there for 10 years. I think that was my Set Point at that time. I don't ever see myself reaching that weight again, but I definately don't want to live the rest of my life in the 190s.

Great FBG and weight, by the way!

06-11-2014, 02:18 PM
I think this is something in the Carolina water! LOL Both you and Rennie have that issue. She's missing again, by the way. I TOLD her not to do that! My FBG never has any correlation with my weight. My FBG is up because I ate rice yesterday, not only the small amount I put in the stuffed peppers but also ate the leftover rice. So what good did it do to only put a small amount in the peppers if I'm just going to eat extra? I usually make a cup of rice, but I think I will have to switch to 1/2 cup since I know I'm not going to use the whole cup. I think I secretly just want to have some left over to eat. DH has switched from cereal in the evening to rice with milk and sugar. And he's losing weight.

You know how I always say I don't like salty snacks? Well I found something to prove me wrong. DH bought these things called Ritz Toasted Chips Sour Cream and Onion Flavor. I love them and can't quit eating them. He said he's not going to buy they again because they raised his blood pressure. Boy am I glad, because I could not handle knowing they are in the house. Meanwhile there's a bag of pretzels going stale....

Ha ha! I don't know if I'm having the same weird phenomenom as Rennie! My FBS has been pretty consistent at 105-106 for about a week now regardless of whether I ate low carb the day before or not. If my meter is high like I think I believe I now have a normal FBS (<100)! I am beginning to think my weight loss has improved my insulin resistance. I must be cautious though in getting too excited because I know that if I go back to how I used to eat or gain the weight back I would just be going back to square one.

Regarding rice....I made my first cauli rice last nice that I liked. It was my third attempt and I added parm cheese to it and heavy whipping cream. It made it cheesy and creamy, like a risotto but different texture. I used half a head and froze the rest (already "riced" but not mixed with anything). I wonder if you could rice some cauli and freeze it in servings for you so you only have to make the amt of regular rice that your hubby will eat? Just a thought.

I am enjoying such a yummy lunch. Last night I cooked garlic butter shrimp and had leftovers since Olivia refused them (so odd since she loves shrimp) so I broiled them with some mont jack cheese and made a wrap with avocado. I started buying the Joseph's lavash wraps at Walmart (low carb) and 1/2 wrap is the perfect size for me at lunch. I have enough shrimp left for lunch again tomorrow! It is so funny to me how I never ever ate leftovers before and now get creative with them for my lunches!

P.S. Rennie don't make me put out a search warrant!

06-11-2014, 02:28 PM
Hey all, back today. My FBS this morning was 99! Whoot. my weight 185

You could try adding a bit more cocoa to your frappe, understand I went almost a year not eating anything sweet so my tastes might be a bit different.

Wannabe.. I kind of believe the set point thing, I have had a rough time getting below 188, I stalled at the end of January and nothing was budging it. I think that may be a set point for me. I've changed things up (again) and I've started to see some movement.

Donna, this attempt was better than the last. I used my Swerve the last time but tried splenda this time. I think splenda is the devil but I honestly like the taste of it better in alot of things. I've decided no matter what, for me, sugar is worse so I just keep trying to figure out what keeps me out of it.

06-11-2014, 05:17 PM
Hi girls. Just a quick flyby. I am not counting anything right now just eating more Intuitively until I get back from the trip. The amazing thing is that while I'm not losing any more weight right now, I am pretty much keeping steady with my 16 to 17 lb loss. The thing that has amazed me the most is that my fbs is staying in the 120s. Since the new meter I use probably reads a little high, that means the reading isn't bad considering I am eating carbs. Interesting conversation y'all are having. I'm not writing much right now since I have to get everything done to leave early Saturday morning. However, I am reading.

Have a great day!!!

06-11-2014, 08:19 PM
We are having thunder storms right now with tornado warnings, so my computer just might go "poof!"

Shannon, I don't know if my Relion meter is reading high or low, but it's the same meter I was using when I was getting the 200 and 300 readings, so at least I know my BS is much lower now. I never called about getting control solution but I tried online again today and their website is working again so I should be receiving it soon. If I remember, I will take my meter with me when I get my bloodwork done and test right before they draw the blood and see how it compares. I am not too concerned about it being exact. Now that my bs has improved so much I want to quit testing as often. I test in the AM, before each meal, at bedtime, and sometimes at other random times during the day. The test before meals tells me if I need to take glimiperide. Mostly, I don't. I agree that your weight loss could have been enough to eliminate your IR. That's good.

I still want to try the cauliflower rice and I will probably like it because I like cauliflower. I could probably put cauliflower rice in the stuffed peppers and DH wouldn't know the difference, but since I use such a small amount and that amount doesn't effect my blood sugar I will continue using the real rice. I just have to make sure I quit making "extra."

Trish, your weight loss might be doing the same thing, eliminating your insulin resistance. Before, when I had a really good A1c my fasting was always in the 120s. I was satisfied with that and so was my DR. If my A1c had been higher it would have been a different story.

06-12-2014, 12:07 AM
Hi ladies thought I would pop in here for a min to see how everyone is doing I dont have alot of time have to get to bed hubby has to go to heart Dr in the am to get test results of the ecko and nuclear test they did last week.

I went to my Dr this morning I am now down 70 pounds.I lost 8 pounds in the last two weeks . Must be the 4 miles I walk every night around the neighbor hood. Doing good. I will have to check back in with you guys and get some personals done. Thanks to everyone for all the nice commets. I will have to see if I can post some before and after of me on here some time.

06-12-2014, 09:08 AM
Fbs was 123 today. I ate half of a steak for dinner and a tiny baked potato. We ate at 5 pm. We walked 2 times yesterday and one was after dinner.
My reading before eating dinner was 106.
Hubby's readings are close to mine. His morning readings are lower.
I have my mammogram today. Slightly worried about it because my half sister was just dx with stage 4 breast cancer.
I have to get healthy to be around to take care of hubby (he is bipolar). I also have 5 precious grandchildren.

06-12-2014, 09:44 AM
Bonnie, I hope DHs test results come back good. It's terrible to be waiting to hear. My SIL went to the ER with chest pains after running over the weekend. They did a stress test and it was good, so I guess his pains were from something else. His father had his first heart attack around 50 and my SIL is now 48, and since he runs regularly, I thought it was good that he got it checked.

Dgramie, I also hope your mammogram is ok. I have found that a small baked potato will not spike my blood sugar if eaten with protein. That's good, because I do like baked potatoes, but will only do that once in a while. I usually just have veggies with my meals. Last night we went to Bob Evans and I had grilled salmon. I don't cook it much because DH won't eat it, but if we go out to eat we can each order something different. It was delicious.

I wonder why DH fasting glucose readings lower than yours?

06-12-2014, 10:52 AM
My theory is holding.....last night DH brought home a strawberry shortcake from an event and I just couldn't resist, I ate it right before bed, FBS was 106.....shocking! So, I think, for me, the immediate danger of getting a type 2 diagnosis has passed but I still need to stay with low carb to avoid postprandial spikes and lose weight for health reasons. That takes some pressure off. I was feeling very stressed about my weight loss slowing but now I am a little less concerned. I still want to continue making progress but the fear is relieved a bit.

Yesterday I went back to regular coffee but I found myself thinking about the bulletproof all day, lol, so today I made it that way....yep, I think I might be sold. It's so frothy it reminds me of being in a cafe. It has a buttery quality but without being oily. I am only adding the grassfed butter, not the coconut oil. Technically it is supposed to have MCT oil....coconut is not 100% MCT. Supposedly the MCT has no flavor. I haven't seen any around these parts and doubt I will, probably not gonna worry about it. I think I'm getting the benefits I want with what I am doing. If I run across it though I might try it.

Rennie has me worried. She hasn't posted in her other usual places eith. It's still a little early in the day here but I will text her later to check on her. There was a bad storn here last night.

Edited to add I texted with Rennie and she is alive and well :-)

06-12-2014, 11:45 AM
Carol sue -hubby is on glyburide and metphormin. We ate the same meal except his potato was bigger. He also had half a peanut butter sandwich before bed.
Does stress raise bs? I know I am stressed!!!

06-12-2014, 06:45 PM
dgramie Yes, I have read that stress can raise bs. Hope your mammogram goes well.

Shannon Thanks for letting us know Rennie is alive and well. We had thunderstorms yesterday too and our lights went out for a few minutes. By the time I felt my way to a flashlight, they came back on. Then this morning the power went off again although everything was clear here but I think there may have been storms around us somewhere. With the power off, I couldn't check the weather station to be sure.

Carol Sue You might be right about the IR. I can't believe what I am eating and my fbs was 116 this morning. My weight seems to be hovering between 222.0 to 222.4. Just bounces back and forth. Although that is up from my 221, I still consider that to be a blessing. In fact, I'm beginning to relax about my trip and honestly believe, I'll be ok with my eating because I really believe that I can have a little more control than I originally thought. I may have some off days with more carbs, but I will eat more healthy carb meals when I can so that maybe I can off set the carby ones. I'm so confident that this will be okay now that I'm not worried about it any more.

Shannon I was so glad to see what you shared from the lowcarb support group. It makes me realize by doing the best I can on the trip and then switching back to a stricter low carb when I get back home just might be what I need to get my weight moving downward again. I just love the things we are learning on our little thread.

Bonnie I sure hope your DH gets a good report from the heart doctor. You are doing great with the walking.

I've got the major part of my packing done and still have some other things to pack that can't be done until last minute. Preparations are going good. We take our pcs so I will try to check in most days.

Have a great evening.

06-12-2014, 11:24 PM
Trish hope you have a great vacation!

06-12-2014, 11:34 PM
Thanks Ladies Hubby's test all came back good. He said he seen problems with his heart or any of the values. So that is a good thing may be now he will realize that it could be from sleep Apenia . All so far is good seems like their is always something going on around here. have been on the run most of the day. So I am gonna get ready for bed.

How is everyone doing on their food plans Since I started with my dr on January 9th I have not drank soda that was one of the first thing that I stopped doing Never pictured myself Doing something Like that. Now I drink water sometimes some unsweet green tea. But I am so excited that I can now wear a pair of capris that I have not been able to fit in for 10 years now . I love them. gonna see if I can put the pic up for all to see.

06-13-2014, 07:38 AM
Great Pic Bonnie! I can really see the difference. I have a lot of clothes that are too tight, but hopefully someday I will fit in them again. Last year I bought several pairs of capris at KMart because nothing I had fit me. I got a Large. This year, they are really baggy, but fit ok because they are elastic waist. This year I wanted a tan pair so I went back and they didn't have a Large so I got a Med. They are a wee bit snug, but I can get them on and wear them as long as I have my top hanging out instead of tucked in. I think by the end of summer I will have to take the other ones in on the sewing machine. I hate sewing, but I don't want to have to buy all new ones again.

I'm glad to hear DH is ok. Does he have sleep apnea? Does he use a CPap machine? I got mine in 2008 and have used it every night since. I can't sleep without it. Some people get them and never use them. It takes some getting used to.

Dgramie, I think the Glyburide is what brings your hubby's bs down. I have Glimiperide but I don't take it every day. I take it if I know I'm going to eat carbs, or if I test and have a higher reading. I try not to take it because it causes weight gain which I don't need, and it can cause a low, which I'm afraid of.

Stress can raise blood sugar. I don't think I am stressed. I don't know. I feel as though ever since I retired I don't have a care in the world, except where they money's going to come from to pay the bills. Sometimes DH goes crazy with the credit card and I have to remind him we no longer have paychecks!

I really needed my Glimiperide yesterday! I made lasagne, and it was so good I ate 2 pieces. The carbs from that started cravings, and later in the evening I had a turkey sandwich, on white bread! Usually if I eat 1 piece of lasagne and a salad I'm OK. I got carried away last night. But today is a new day, and I'm back on track.

06-13-2014, 09:07 AM
Yesterday we went to mcd after my mammo. I had a quarter pounder as an early dinner. Right before bed I had a half of a peanut butter sandwich and my fbs was 110 today.
Waiting for results of mammo. They ended up doing an ultrasound also. I'm hoping it's ok but will have to wait for results. May call the dr office today.
Tech said she thought it was a fibriod tumor. But dr has to determine it.

Slept late today so can't walk before my little ones get here.
I lost 2 lbs this wk. which is great after losing 6 last wk. I have relost 18 lbs now.

06-13-2014, 11:38 AM
Good morning ladies! I had a nice whoosh on the scale today, 3 lbs. that was a welcome sight after weeks of losing a pound if I was lucky. With my luck though it will likely return before Monday when I have my official weekly weigh in but it was really nice to see today.

Talking about clothes sizes. The more I lose the more I realize that I was seriously stretching the clothes I had. For the last two years I have barely shopped bc of money and just hating shopping. For example my panties are 18/20. One would think after losing 20+ lbs that I could go down a size but they are really nice and comfy now, no digging in my sides. So, I can deduce I probably should have been in a size 22. Same with swimsuit. I got my new one. My old one was a 20 and I have been wearing it about 4 years. It had become very baggy and my chest was looking like it might hop out of it. I figured I needed a much smaller swimsuit. The new one? Top is a 20....yes....and bottoms 18. Now this new 20 top is very tight. I guess my old one was very stretched out. It's a little frustrating to see no change in size but I still look better in my clothes now so trying to focus on that. My old size 18 jeans that were so tight I rarely ever wore them now are comfortable, though they still look tight. Here is a pic collage I did recently of my face and belly (I have since colored my gray, lol) in those jeans.....prepare yourself for icky image...can't believe I'm going to post this, lol!

06-13-2014, 01:41 PM
My dr just called and the tumor is fibriod but still needs to come out. He said it's fine not cancer!!

06-13-2014, 03:02 PM
Carol Sue the hubby has a apt in a few weeks to be tested to see if he has sleep apnea . The Dr is pretty sure he does by the way we describe his symptoms that he does at night. I hope it makes him feel better when we get all this stuff straight .

Thanks for the commets on the pic I am pretty excited!:carrot:

I hope is doing well I am doing all my cleaning today so I can spend the weekend in the sun. Hope to catch up with you all soon.

06-14-2014, 12:31 AM
Shannon, looks like losing the weight has done the trick for you! I am still hoping another 16 pounds and I will be in better shape. I'm consistently keeping FBS between 110 and 120 but I am not eating any processed carbs. All veggies and fruits always with protein and fat. I think I'm a bit more than pre-diabetic. Good for you getting control so quickly!

Trish - Have a fun trip!

Dgramie - Welcome! Looks like your sugar is getting under control also! Good for you!

Butterfuly, 70 pounds is stupendous! Good for you.

Carol Sue - I was using more and more old dried out herbs in bottles in my salads and soups and decided to grow my own. Cheaper, fun and smells heavenly! Bought some small plants at a nursery - parsley, oregano, basil, thyme, rosemary, dill, stevia - bought some good potting soil, put them each in their own clay pot, lined the clay pots up in two large rectangular plastic containers (so any extra water can just go down into plastic container), put them on a table in front of a big kitchen window, water them twice a week, turn large containers around once a week and voila - I'm snipping herbs to eat everyday. I know nothing, read nothing about it, just hope I'm not going to poison myself!

06-14-2014, 12:53 AM
A quick one girls. I've had such a busy, busy day. I think I finally got everything done and I'm headed to bed. We are getting up early and hoping to get out of here by 7 in the morning. So I am just am flying by to say hello and I will try to check in from time to time when I can. Have a great weekend.

06-14-2014, 01:02 AM
Before I had my daughter I had quite the Aerogarden going in my house - I loved growing my own herbs! I took it down after she was born because I didn't have as much time to play with it and they were constantly bolting. Now I just have chives, rosemary and basil growing in my backyard.

06-14-2014, 09:17 AM
I had a half peanut butter sandwich before bed last night and my fbs was 99! Woohoo my lowest of the week !
Got a big roast in the crockpot. Son and his kids are coming for the afternoon.

06-14-2014, 09:23 AM
Shannon, my belly picture was taken in my undies, so I WON'T be posting it. LOL My belly looks a lot worse than yours because of my surgeries.

dgramie, I too had a scare with a fibroid. After they saw it, they just told me to come back for another mammogram in 6 months. So after 6 months of worrying, scared to death, they told me it hadn't changed, but I should have a biopsy anyway. I don't know why they didn't just send me for the biopsy in the first place, but that might have had something to do with insurance. When I finally went for the biopsy, the surgeon didn't think I needed it because there was no change, but I told him to do it anyway. He did, it was a fibroid.

Kris, I don't know if I have room to grow herbs, unless I put the pots out on the deck. My son grows a few because he makes home made salsa and needs them for that.

Bonnie, they have some new things out that you can use for sleep apnea instead of wearing the mask. Maybe he can do one of those.

Trish, I know you left already, but I hope you have a good trip.

Rennie, Get thine arse back here!!

06-14-2014, 09:29 AM
My dr just called and the tumor is fibriod but still needs to come out. He said it's fine not cancer!!

I had a fibroadenoma removed many years ago - it was very quick, not bad at all. I have breast cancer in my family too, it's scary. I had my baseline mammogram early at 35 and just had my second one right before I turned 41. I got a letter that my breasts are "dense"....hard to imagine since they resemble deflated balloons, lol!

06-14-2014, 09:30 AM
Thanks Ladies Hubby's test all came back good. He said he seen problems with his heart or any of the values. So that is a good thing may be now he will realize that it could be from sleep Apenia . All so far is good seems like their is always something going on around here. have been on the run most of the day. So I am gonna get ready for bed.

How is everyone doing on their food plans Since I started with my dr on January 9th I have not drank soda that was one of the first thing that I stopped doing Never pictured myself Doing something Like that. Now I drink water sometimes some unsweet green tea. But I am so excited that I can now wear a pair of capris that I have not been able to fit in for 10 years now . I love them. gonna see if I can put the pic up for all to see.

Congrats on the 70 lbs! My hubby has sleep apnea too.

06-14-2014, 09:51 AM
Shannon - Please explain an Aerogarden, thanks.

06-14-2014, 09:44 PM
Shannon - Please explain an Aerogarden, thanks.

Kris, it's a miniature hydroponic garden....super fun! Here is a link so you can see examples

If you click on seed kits then choose 6/7 pod you will see the growing options of my old Aerogarden. Looking at it, I'm now sad I got rid of it, lol!

06-15-2014, 08:58 AM
I ate to much yesterday and my fbs was 97 this morning. I am totally confused. It seems like if I eat more my numbers are lower. If I eat right on track my numbers are higher.
I will be calling the dr on Monday to set up my lumpectomy and discuss my bs numbers.

06-15-2014, 09:59 AM
dgramie, we have often had discussions about why BS does what it does. Many times it doesn't make sense. Sometimes it has to do with what and when you eat, especially when you are pre-diabetic.

06-15-2014, 10:55 AM
Thanks Shannon, very cool those Aerogardens!

06-15-2014, 06:57 PM
Thanks Ladies Hubby's test all came back good. He said he seen problems with his heart or any of the values. So that is a good thing may be now he will realize that it could be from sleep Apenia . All so far is good seems like their is always something going on around here. have been on the run most of the day. So I am gonna get ready for bed.

How is everyone doing on their food plans Since I started with my dr on January 9th I have not drank soda that was one of the first thing that I stopped doing Never pictured myself Doing something Like that. Now I drink water sometimes some unsweet green tea. But I am so excited that I can now wear a pair of capris that I have not been able to fit in for 10 years now . I love them. gonna see if I can put the pic up for all to see.

Bonnie Terrific news for DH tests came out ok. Hope he gets the help he needs for the Apenia and all goes well. CONGRATULATIONS on being able to wear the capris. You are doing great girl and looking great too!!!

06-15-2014, 07:27 PM
Dgramie and Shannon Yey on the weight loss.

Kris I told DH that when I get back home I plan to buy live plants and put around the house. I saw on some tv show how NASA learned that plants pull the poisons out of the carpet, drapes etc when they wanted clean air for the astronauts. Your herb garden makes me want to try that too. I've never tried an herb garden. How do you use your Stevia? Do just put a leaf in what you drink?

We are at DH sons and enjoying our time here. My eating hasn't been too bad so far. My FBS yesterday was 129 and today was 134 which was good considering the carbs I had yesterday. I've been pretty good today. DH son made steaks, grilled romaine lettuce and baked potatoes for dinner. I had an Atkins shake this morning and have one in the fridge for later. DDIL and DGD and I went to an outlet mall and did lots of walking today and I only had to sit for a little bit to get my hip to stop hurting. Then was able to walk again with no problem. I hope that will help with my FBS tomorrow and then when we get to Missouri I think I'll have no problem walking around museum there. Tomorrow DH, son and grandchildren are going to a game in Indianapolis and DDIL and I are going out to eat for salad. So I think I will be okay with my eating while here.

Carol Sue, Bonnie, Rennie and others :wave:

Catch y'all again when I can.

06-15-2014, 08:15 PM
I must confess, I have used every herb but the stevia. I need to google to make sure I can just eat it.

06-15-2014, 10:30 PM
Kris I'm curious too, my stevia is liquid so no clue what I'd do with a leaf!

Trish glad you got to your family's safely, have fun!!

Well, I had a bad crash into a package of Nutter Butters today, mouth first. I think henceforth they will be banned from the house. My daughter loves them but everytime I buy them for her I end up bingeing on them. Hubby got off ok on his work trip to Atlanta today. He took his new truck :-) i've been driving that land boat all week learning to maneuver it. Guess I'll miss it. He will be at a training class all week so I'm alone with the little terror til Saturday night. The battle of the wills is at an all time high right now and this mommy is becoming less and less patient by the hour it seems. I need a timeout. LOL! Our dog, who has congestive heart failure, sounds worse than usual so I guess we will visit the vet tomorrow. I also need to get my blood drawn to monitor my liver for this fungus medicine I'm on. Hopefully we can do those in the morning and go to the pool in the afternoon. I'm working on printing out recipes I want to try. I pin them on pinterest but sometimes dislike trying to cook while reading it on my iPad. I'm making a notebook for myself with the recipes. Hopefully it will help me also with meal planning and shopping. Ok, the terror is finally asleep so I need to do some cleaning and get to bed early, she has a tendency to wake even more when a major change, like daddy leaving, occurs.

06-16-2014, 08:56 AM
Where does the weekend go?? It was a fast one!!
Fbs was 104 today. I didn't snack before bed. Guess I will see what the dr says today.

06-16-2014, 10:55 AM
Good morning! My whoosh stayed, yay! 3.2 lb loss for the week and my FBS was 96 today!!

06-16-2014, 12:35 PM
I am not doing as well as everyone else. :( I have had to take my glimiperide because I'm eating too many carbs. I haven't been eating my lunch time veggies. My weight is up a bit, too. So I just made some cabbage and collard greens with onions, garlic and lentils. Sprinkled a bit of feta cheese on top, and that's lunch. I had leftover brussels sprouts so I cut them up and mixed them in with it. It's very satisfying. I like it, but if I don't take the time to make it I end up eating something I shouldn't.

We went to my step-son's for Father's Day dinner. He is usually a really good cook but the food wasn't all that great. He cooked ribs and chops in the smoker and they were a little tough. The best part of the meal was the baked potato :) which I probably shouldn't have eaten.

dgramie, it looks like you need that bedtime snack for your FBG. Wonder what the DR will say?

Shannon, seems like Olivia is a little wound up! It must be difficult when you are alone with her so much. You DO need a break.

Trish, glad you are having a nice vacation and doing well with your foods. I just bought some hearts of romaine over the weekend and grilled them with blue cheese dressing and bacon bits. I had that on a buffet last week and it made me hungry for it. I really don't like blue cheese dressing that much but it goes well with the grilled romaine.

06-16-2014, 12:39 PM
DH has to go today to renew his gun permit. He wants me to apply for one. LOL I know nothing about guns. I don't even know where his are kept! But he wants me to try to see if they will issue a permit to me. He wants me to go to the shooting range and at least know how to handle a gun. We went once to an open air shooting range and I was deathly afraid I was going to shoot someone or get shot myself. I filled out the application and am anxious to see what they say. I will not be disappointed if I don't get it.

06-16-2014, 01:06 PM
Shannon I hate it when I have those crashes and yes that is when those things are band from my house too. It is just safer not to have them so readily available. Does Olivia take naps? Maybe you can take a "me time" for Mommy when she does. When I had day care in my home, naptime was "me time" for the sitter. I pray all goes well. Hope you dog will be okay.

A quick one today. I'm trying to check in and at least read to keep me on track as much as possible. I will be so glad when I can actually get back on low carb. My fbs was 142 this morning. Guess mine was from the baked potato and marinate sauce on that beautiful steak. Plus the steak was so good (protein) that I did a no no and ate past satisfied. Craving veggies, but going out with DDIL to a Noodle company and will eat a good salad today. Hopefully I'll get enough veggies to help. Lunch will be trying because DH grew up in IN and loves white castle little burgers. I think we are going there. If I remember right there aren't much veggies on them.

Don't see Rennie or Ruthie lately, sure hope they are doing okay.

I'll try to get on again tonight. If not, I'll catch y'all tomorrow night when we get settled in MO.

Have a good day!!1

06-16-2014, 01:18 PM
DH has to go today to renew his gun permit. He wants me to apply for one. LOL I know nothing about guns. I don't even know where his are kept! But he wants me to try to see if they will issue a permit to me. He wants me to go to the shooting range and at least know how to handle a gun. We went once to an open air shooting range and I was deathly afraid I was going to shoot someone or get shot myself. I filled out the application and am anxious to see what they say. I will not be disappointed if I don't get it.

We are quite the gun experts here...keep me posted!

06-16-2014, 02:49 PM
Hi Everyone I'm around :) I had a delicious splurge week and the scale rewarded me. I didn't check my fbs at all so don't know what it was. Yesterday was my first OP day in a long time. We celebrated Father's Day on Thursday since my husband was off that day. We had a family cookout on Saturday and thought I snacked like crazy I got my water in also so the scale was up from that day but not as bad as it could have been. Today I am down 2.4 of the junk and so far away from my next mini goal of 155. My fbs was 143 this morning. Not great but not in the 200's so I'll take it.

dgramie I would love to see 104 but I take it from Carol Sue's comment you are typically lower. Hope the dr gives good news :)

Shannon nice loss for the week and great job on your fbs :)

Carol Sue :hug: Your veggie recipes sound really interesting :)

Trish I'm fine :hug: we had white castle in DC my husband loves it also. I've often wondered what the Noodle Company served. I pass it when going to my daughters and just assumed it was only noodles :) but I've never even googled it :)

Hello to everyone I missed :wave:

06-16-2014, 03:59 PM
Rennie We ate at white castle very carby. More bread than I ever eat in a week especially of white flour. You can go to Noodle.com on line and look at the menu. What I like about their site is that they show calories for 2 sizes of each meal so you can order the size you want and know the calories. They have anything from salads to salads with noodles and even sandwiches th soat can be eaten with a side salad or side soup. I saw a Bangkok meal that is made wit rice noodles which I've seen a lot of low carbers mention eating. It is less than 300 calories and a salad with lots of veggies and protein that was low calorie so I will probably have one of those just haven't decided which one yet. I'll let you know how it goes.

I sure look forward to getting to my sister's so I can get back to eating more low carb.

Carol Sue I forgot your post about the guns. I learned to shoot when I married DH #2. I loved target shooting and one job I had it was part of my job to have to qualify shooting with a pistol once a year. I was good enough to qualify without practicing and they used to fuss at me because I didn't practice. Just relax and get to know your weapon and don't be afraid of it. I would recommend getting comfortable holding it etc before learning to use it. My then DH was a cop. He taught the children and me that you always treat a gun as a loaded gun even if you know it is unloaded because more people are killed accidentally by a gun "they thought" was unloaded. I never could use a revolver because I couldn't cock it. I didn't have enough strength to pull it back to load it. You will do okay.

I am excited to have learned today on FB that my babysister is coming to my Daddy's BD party. I never could get in touch with her and had decided that she wasn't coming. It is going to be fun to have us 3 girls together again.

Editing to say: Now we just need to hear from Ruthie. Hope not hearing from her is because she is just so busy.

06-16-2014, 06:12 PM
I got my gun license. I was amazed at how easy it was. I don't know if they do a background check, but the application said your social security number was optional so I didn't give it, so I don't know how they could do a check in the few minutes it took him to enter my info. DH said they are going to make the license harder to get. There were as many women applying as men, and I think I was the youngest one there! LOL The guy sitting next to me was 85!! It makes me wonder if all the people applying for a carry permit really carry a gun.

Trish, Ruth posted here once this month but I have seen her posts in a couple of the low carb forums. Mad hasn't been here for months! I know there are a lot of time she can't get online because her DH takes their WIFI for work. I hope she's OK.

Good to see you posting, Rennie, and hear that you're doing good! I cooked chicken on the grill today with lightly breaded cauliflower and baked potatoes. I made a very small baked potato for myself. I hope this isn't going to become a habit!

I think there used to be a White Castle in downtown Pittsburgh. Don't know if it's still there. I see some White Castle products in the freezer section. I have never heard of Noodle Co. Must be a southern thing.

06-16-2014, 06:54 PM
I got my gun license. I was amazed at how easy it was. I don't know if they do a background check, but the application said your social security number was optional so I didn't give it, so I don't know how they could do a check in the few minutes it took him to enter my info. DH said they are going to make the license harder to get. There were as many women applying as men, and I think I was the youngest one there! LOL The guy sitting next to me was 85!! It makes me wonder if all the people applying for a carry permit really carry a gun.

Trish, Ruth posted here once this month but I have seen her posts in a couple of the low carb forums. Mad hasn't been here for months! I know there are a lot of time she can't get online because her DH takes their WIFI for work. I hope she's OK.

Good to see you posting, Rennie, and hear that you're doing good! I cooked chicken on the grill today with lightly breaded cauliflower and baked potatoes. I made a very small baked potato for myself. I hope this isn't going to become a habit!

I think there used to be a White Castle in downtown Pittsburgh. Don't know if it's still there. I see some White Castle products in the freezer section. I have never heard of Noodle Co. Must be a southern thing.

My hubby has his concealed carry but does not carry on his person regularly unless we go somewhere unsafe. He's been trying to get me to get my license for a while, I just haven't had time to take the class (different requirements here I guess)....or are you talking about a permit to buy a gun? Everytime I go to the range I see other women but I'm in the south and that is pretty common here.

I've seen a low carb recipe floating around for something White Castle....will find it for you gals tonight!

06-16-2014, 06:55 PM
Stevia - You can just cut off the leaves and eat them. If you dry them, supposed to be much sweeter. You can make teas and tinctures and extracts. They say almost every commercial stevia has something else in it. People have been eating it for centuries though I have been seeing claims that it is dangerous on the internet. No real studies or anything. Might have something to do with the stevia blends you buy in the store and not the actual plant.

I'll play around with it and let you know.

06-16-2014, 09:01 PM
I can't get in to see my dr till tomorrow. Hoping to get this surgery over with quick.
Bs at 5pm was 91. Had a nice big grilled pork chop and large garden salad. I guess I will snack before bed again.
Hubby loves white castles in the freezer section. I think it's way to much bread. Makes me want to ask where's the beef !!!

06-16-2014, 10:55 PM
Here is the White Castle Hamburger Pie recipe

06-17-2014, 12:14 AM
Geez, I wrote a long post and lost it. Here is the quick version. Fell into the Nutter Butters again but this time I tested after and it was high so I'm hoping that deters me from such leaps in the future. I am having a bit of a rough week - sick dog is now on two additional meds for bronchitis, he is coughing for hours during the night keeping me from sleeping, daughter is "grounded" from TV which is really best in the long run but hard on me in the short run (and no, she does not nap....I wish. She stopped that abruptly a couple months after turning 2, she will be 4 this weekend....it's been a long two years, lol) and now the AC in my car is not working really well which is a major problem since I need to drive over an hour Thurs to deliver all the baby stuff to my sister-in-law, pick up my mom on the way, go to a house showing (we are looking at houses and our hometown area is at the top of our list if we can't find what we need here for the right money, which is doubtful), see my aunt for lunch on Friday and then drive back home Friday evening. I have to take the dog with me so he can stay on his meds and be watched closely - both he and my daughter need AC and right now it's okay in the front seat but not really getting to the backseat as good as it used to - hoping it's just freon but you know how that goes. It's only 100 degrees here, I'm sure we will be fine, right? NOT! I have an appt on Wed, earliest they could fit me in, to have the car looked at. Sorry for the rant!

06-17-2014, 08:31 AM
Fbs was 100 today. My bedtime snack was an ounce of cheddar cheese.
I'm a bit nervous about my dr appt. hoping his scales show a loss!!

06-17-2014, 10:31 AM
FBS 104, down another pound.....really really tired

06-17-2014, 10:44 AM
dgramie, good luck with your doctor's appointment. Do you weigh yourself at home? I weigh myself often enough that I can usually predict what I will weigh at the doctor's office.

It is hard to compare your readings to your husband's because he is taking the glyburide. That actually lowers your blood sugar and "allows" you to eat more carbs. You are better off to keep your blood sugar down with diet and exercise if you can. I really want to quit taking the glimiperide but I am more easily tempted to eat carbs because I know the glimiperide will control the glucose. If I skip the carbs, I don't need it. I know a woman who lost 50 lbs and got off all her diabetes meds. I can't even lose 5!!

Shannon, the permit I got was for concealed carry. I am surprised that there is no testing or training involved. It seems that they give this to anybody who wants it. DH said they are going to change it soon and you will have to have a specific legitimate reason for wanting it. This one is good for 5 years and if I don't do anything with it I doubt if I will renew in 5 years. I will be 73! LOL

I have never even tasted Nutter Butters. I don't want to be tempted...I might like them.

You are really having a tough time between Olivia, the sick doggy, the loss of air conditioning, looking for a house. I like house hunting, but with everything else you're going through it will be hectic.

I will have to take a look at the hamburger pie recipe. (just copied it....Looks Delicious!)

06-17-2014, 07:44 PM
Quick flyby. Meal at Noodles Company was really light and satisfying. I got the Bangkok Curry with pork and also got a side tossed salad to get more veggies. It was around 300 calories. Then we walked around at Sam's and Target and also had a 120 calorie serving of yogurt at DDIL favorit yogurt shop. It was really nice that both places provided calories for the foods they served.

Checked fbs and it was 144. I guess if I can keep it around there until we get home. It won't be too bad.

Will try to check in tomorrow.

06-17-2014, 11:44 PM
Today I was up 2 lbs at the dr. I had a mid afternoon appt. I'm not upset over the gain. The other was on a fast. My surgery is July 7. He still believes it will be ok so I have to trust him. I showed him my bs numbers and he suggested getting bedtime readings. So at. 9 pm bs was 110. I am pleased with it.

06-18-2014, 12:20 PM
dgramie we did that in the one in Georgetown in DC and were asked to leave. It was in the mid 80's when that Wendy's commercial was playing "Where's the beef!?" :D I never liked them. They had more fillers to me then meat. Sounds like you were pleased with the doctor visit and had a good day.

Shannon what about a humidifier for the pup? That might help with the dry coughing at night, just a thought. Aw we never got to meet and you're so close and now moving further out :( Sorry about the car a/c but hopefully they will fix that today :crossed:

Thanks Carol Sue :) You know there are so many things to do with cauliflower. I just wish it was an easier process. I am so lazy when it comes to cooking things just for me. I want some of the mock potato salad so bad but I just don't feel like making it. I know one head of cauliflower will make some mock mac n cheese also and I so want to try the riced cauliflower also ... I need to stop being lazy :) Nope the Noodles Company is every where but like me it has probably never caught your eye. My daughter said she has been there. They're in Lancaster, Oakland, Monroeville, Cranberry Township, Canonsburg, Pittsburgh, State College, Washington and Wexford, PA.

Trish, what was the name of the yogurt place?

06-18-2014, 01:36 PM
Rennie don't hold your breath! We've been looking at houses off and on for over a year. Personally, I'd rather stay in Raleigh but we really need a bigger house. I know that sounds greedy but hubby works from home and needs his own office and I need a sewing studio with locking doors so I can start my business when Olivia goes to school. We live in a small affordable neighborhood within a much larger much more affluent neighborhood. To get more space in our same area, the house price doubles and the land gets even smaller than our already teeny tiny yard, whereas in my hometown and neighboring area we could have the bigger house and yard for same amount as our current home. The other side of the coin is when hubby got laid off and took the new job, he is working for a company in GA now. We are also looking at houses in SC (where they have a sister office) bc his virtual employment could change to needing to be on site regularly at anytime, from the SC area it's a 4 hr drive. But, bottomline, we differ heavily in what house features we want hence the long period of looking but not buying.

06-18-2014, 02:11 PM
Rennie, I did a search, and there is a Noodle Co less than 9 miles from us but it's in a direction we rarely go. We are in Westmoreland County, only a couple miles from the Allegheny County border, but sales tax is higher there so we tend to stay away from there, especially when shopping. It's not a lot of money, but if you are buying big items it makes a difference. Also, since that area is more "city" the crime rate is higher. Where we are is suburbs, more toward rural. There are a lot of businesses they have that have not expanded out toward our area. Anyway, that's why I never heard of Noodle Co.

I can understand you not making a lot of things for yourself...you have a family to cook for. It's just the two of us and we are on our own for breakfast and lunch. I just prepare dinner, which is when we usually eat the same thing. I do feel as though all I'm doing is cooking and washing dishes. I'm no sooner done with breakfast than I start preparing my vegetables for lunch.

My blood sugar was 150 this morning and I really don't know why. We ate out, but I ordered a salad and a vegetables with my entree but no starch. Didn't eat any bread. I had pulled pork, but it didn't have much sauce on it and I only ate about a third of it. In the evening I had some sugar free jello. I don't get it. I only have 11 days until I get my bloodwork done, so I want to keep my readings as low as I can until then. I want an A1c under 7. I brought my leftovers home, along with 2 rolls. This morning I broke one and put some butter on it and ate half of it. Midway chewing I thought to myself "What are you doing????????" and spit it out. Then I broke up the rest of the rolls and put them in the stale bread bag. We keep a bag of stale bread that I use for bread crumbs, croutons, stuffing, or just to throw out for the birds. I know my body got some of the carbs before I spit out the roll, but I did the best I could in the situation. Bread is my worst nightmare.

Shannon, it's hard finding a house when you both want different things, but location is important for his job. You do need to consider your future plans too, because that is going to be providing income, too. I hope you are able to find something that suits both of you.

06-18-2014, 02:24 PM
Wow Shannon a ton to consider. What types of items do you make? Have you thought about putting them online, ebay or something?

Carol Sue, good job on the roll :) That took discipline :high:

06-18-2014, 03:35 PM
The house thing is so complicated because hubby could care less about the house, what he really wants is land. He wants enough to have his own range on our property for shooting guns and bows. I want a nice-ish house (actually the main thing I care about is the kitchen bc I cook alot) with enough room for all of our interests. We currently have a 3 bedroom. The 3rd bedroom is an office, sewing studio, junk room...we have no guest room and we rent two storage units which mostly hold hubby's hobby stuff. Our garage is full. We have sold off tons of stuff but we just still have alot. I have an entire closet full of fabric and other sewing related stuff. Blah, blah, blah. LOL! I found a really cute house, 700 sq feet bigger than ours, yard 4X as large with a pool, lol, for the same amt as our current house...that one is in SC. Oh, and it has the most beautiful kitchen I think I've ever seen, countertops galore. The one I'm going to see tomorrow is where my brother lives, an hour away. They are pregnant, we kind of want to be closer to them so Olivia has a cousin to grow up with. Mark is the baby so her two cousins on his side are grown. One has two kids but they live in NJ bc her hubby is in the air force. Blah, I hate house stuff!

So Rennie I do embroidery/applique and can sew. I am still learning the sewing but have been doing embroidery/applique for 3 yrs. i haven't posted on this blog in eons but you can look here at some of my stuff...mostly embroidery/applique
I have sold my stuff in the padt, mostly to friends but the last couple years I haven't....just been doing it for fun, for Olivia or gifts for others. I have a business name, facebook page, business blog, etc., they are just inactive right now.

06-18-2014, 09:54 PM
Very nice "stuff", Shannon!

06-18-2014, 10:56 PM
Rennie I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the yogurt place.

dgramie Your bs is good. I pray your surgery will bring good news.

Long drive today and I did a lot of driving to help DH. He drives the most. Tomorrow will be another long time of driving for me as I usually do most of the driving when we get to TX because I know where things are. I've really enjoyed this trip. Time with DH son and family was really a pleasure. I've really enjoyed time with Hubby on this trip more than any of our trips. Seeing a wonderful side of him that I've never seen before.

Sorry I'm not writing more. I'm just so tired and been fighting a headache since we stopped at the motel.

Thanks for the prayers for my DD. They got the funding for her companions funeral. I know she is going through a lot, but she is really stronger than she realized she was. His family seems to be really sticking by her and she has her best friend who is standing by her.

I don't know if I'll have time to check in when I get to my sister's. Will check back in when I can.

You guys are great. Even though I may not write, I do try to read. Knowing I have y'all here helps me to stay strong on the food thing although things have really been carby on this trip. Hoping to have more control when I get with my family.

06-18-2014, 11:26 PM
Shannon, I really like the embroidery, pretty :) I love big spacious kitchens, double ovens, ceramic ranges, multiple bathrooms, a covered screened in porch/deck area, full finished basement and room for a garden :) ahhh again one day :)

Trish, get some rest, and enjoy :hug: Glad things are coming together for your daughter. God is GOOD :) Hoping your headache and my sore throat go away soon :hug:

06-19-2014, 09:58 AM
Since we're talking houses, our house is pretty good now that there's just the 2 of us. It is 3 bedroom, 2 of which we have packed with "stuff." Our kitchen is very small, but big enough for our needs. We have one bathroom and a toilet in the basement for emergencies. We have a 1 car garage and DH would like it to be 2 car, but our other house had no garage. Our other house had a covered porch so we could sit out if it was raining, but we don't have that here and I miss it. If I were dreaming, I would like to live where I could walk out onto the beach and look at the ocean. DH always asks what I would do when the hurricanes come and I don't have an answer! LOL

Trish and Rennie, I'm sorry you aren't feeling well. Hope things improve.

Trish, I'm glad you're enjoying your vacation, spending time with family.

My blood sugar is still high but this time I know it's because I ate pasta last night. It was what DH wanted for dinner. I have not been on the scale for about a week. I don't want to see it.

Next week I go for an Echocardiogram. I don't know if it will show anything that would explain my palpitations. They came back, even with the decaf coffee, so I don't know what's up. The last time this happened they said it was caused by my thyroid, but my thyroid is good, now. I even wore a heart monitor for a month, and the cardiologist said I was having some extra heart beats but it wasn't anything to worry about. Easy for him to say, he's not the one having them. LOL

My psoriasis is flaring, and my hands are achy and stiffening up. Probably psoriatic arthritis. I don't take any meds for that because it's very costly, very hard on the immune system, and only works temporarily. So I decided it wasn't worth it for temporary relief. I'm just a basket case right now. I keep saying that things can only get better!

Sorry to be such a downer. I know everyone has their own problems. I don't expect anyone to solve mine, just to lend an ear, or in this care, an eye.

06-19-2014, 11:09 AM
Carol Sue I'm not a doctor of course but I wonder if your psoriasis is flaring because of the extra carbs? It's an inflammatory process and carbs are inflammatory....just a thought. In my career I worked on alot of psoriasis studies! The inflammation affects lipoprotein levels. On the palpitations, it's funny you mention that. I had not noticed til I thought about what I was going to write to you but I used to get them with coffee too and have not been having them since I started the bulletproof. I'm sure it's coincidence but interesting. I had an echo about 14 yrs ago for palpitations but they ruled everything out and said it was stress. My dad passed 19 years ago at age 52 after a heart attack (after he had already had bypass in years prior) so I am very vigilent about anything heart. It's also why I worked for a cardiovascular focused company for 8 years. I love that you said you have an extra toilet for emergencies! We looked at an old farmhouse (bc of the land) and DH said no way could we have just one toilet!

Rennie your dream house sounds very similar to mine :)

Trish hope the headache has eased. It is nice to hear what a good time you are having and gives me hope for the future. Vacations now with a little one should be fun but they are not and hubby and I argue alot on them. I'm so ready to have an enjoyable vacation again someday!

Weight is still up but FBS is holding at what I consider my new number, 104 (it has been 104-105 or lower pretty steady for about a few weeks now).

06-19-2014, 11:12 AM
Very nice "stuff", Shannon!

Thanks Carol Sue! Wish I had more time for it :-)

06-19-2014, 11:14 AM
Today I was up 2 lbs at the dr. I had a mid afternoon appt. I'm not upset over the gain. The other was on a fast. My surgery is July 7. He still believes it will be ok so I have to trust him. I showed him my bs numbers and he suggested getting bedtime readings. So at. 9 pm bs was 110. I am pleased with it.

How are you doing dgramie?

06-19-2014, 05:37 PM
Shannon, my psoriasis started around the time I started through menopause. I don't know if that had anything to do with it. Until the past couple years, it never went into remission. It has gone into remission 3 times. It's possible that the carbs had something to do with it because it came back over the winter, when I was eating carbs at an all time high. But it doesn't necessarily go into remission when I am carb free. I can't seem to put my finger on what effects it. I know stress is a factor. A couple times I had to be on prednisone for my contrast dye allergy and that clears it up, but that's not something I want to do on a regular basis.

I did very well with my carbs today. I had 53 gm of carbs with 1135 calories. The carbs were from veggies, including lentils, and 4 potato chips I ate. No bread, pasta, rice, potatoes. Now to make it to bedtime. My bs is still a little high but I have been taking the glimiperide. Once I get it back to normal, low carb eating should keep it there.

I think I mentioned that the last time I had bad palpitations my TSH was over 7. I was put on levothyroxine, but then my TSH went back to normal and he took me back off it. Said the high reading was a fluke. I think TSH is on my list of bloodwork for July 1, so we will see what it says.

My heart disease came from my mother's side of the family. She died at 64 but back then they didn't have the surgeries or meds that they have now. I know that weight loss would help ALL my medical conditions. It's easier said than done.

06-20-2014, 08:58 AM
I am doing good! We went to the fair last night and walked around. I had a lemon shakeup. My fbs was 114 today.
My scales stayed the same this wk.
Hubby is allowed 45 carbs per meal. What is your limit? I'm trying to decided what goal I should set for myself.

06-20-2014, 09:17 AM
dgramie, I'm not sure if you were addressing me about the carbs per meal, but I will answer. I am told that I am allowed 45 carbs per meal and 15 per snack, but that wouldn't work for me unless I took the glimiperide twice a day as it is prescribed. I don't want to do that, so I try to avoid starchy carbs altogether...bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and sweets. I CAN eat one spoonful or so at a meal without much damage, but the carbs I get are from vegetables, including beans. I would also not be able to lose weight eating that many carbs. Mine run between 35-50 per day. Everyone is different. I think you should figure out how many carbs you can have per day or per meal to keep your blood sugar in the right range. I suggest testing 2-3 hours after each meal to see what carbs and what amount of carbs spike your blood sugar and go from there. I doubt if your results will be the same as your husband's. Taking a 15 min walk an hour or so after dinner helps, too. It helps by getting the glucose out of your blood and into your cells for use by the body.

My blood sugar finally went down. It was 112 this morning. Now if I avoid carbs, it should stay good without the glimiperide. Exercise helps too, but I have not been exercising because of the palpitations, other than daily activities.

06-20-2014, 09:41 AM
I am doing good! We went to the fair last night and walked around. I had a lemon shakeup. My fbs was 114 today.
My scales stayed the same this wk.
Hubby is allowed 45 carbs per meal. What is your limit? I'm trying to decided what goal I should set for myself.

06-20-2014, 09:51 AM
The forum is acting wonky this morning. It posted your post twice, almost an hour apart!

06-20-2014, 09:56 AM
I am preD so I have not been given a limit of carbs but I went to a preD nutrition class after my diagnosis, this was like 6-7 yrs ago, and the RD set forth similar suggestions as indicated by Carol Sue. I really never changed my diet after that and continued to gain weight slowly. If I ate those amounts of carbs now and tested regularly I suspect I would see spikes. I have a lot of off plan meals....still working on taming my sugar tooth....but when I eat on plan (my own plan, not a specific diet, of no pasta, bread, corn, rice, potatoes, added sugar) I am probably around 50 g carbs per day, maybe a little more or less on some days. This is just a guess as I do not track calories or carbs.

A typical day of meals for me is:
Scrambled eggs and cheese (or omelet with meat and cheese), bulletproof coffee
Salad with meat leftover from previous night's dinner or leftovers from dinner
Some type of meat with veggies as sides
I may snack on pork rinds, cheese sticks, raw veggies, homemade low carb, gluten free baked goods or Atkins bar in the evening
I drink water or splenda sweetened tea in general.

06-20-2014, 11:51 AM
From what I noticed when I was diagnosed in the hospital, they follow the 45 gm per meal guideline and then adjust your meds according to your test results instead of adjusting your menu according to your blood sugar readings. They would test my FBS in the morning before breakfast and inject insulin on a sliding scale based on that reading. Breakfast consisted of oatmeal 1/4 c, with skim milk 8 oz, egg beaters (1), toast (1) and fruit. They would test again before lunch and inject insulin accordingly. Lunch would consist of protein, carb, veggies fruit and milk. Test again before dinner, insulin, dinner of protein, carb, veggies fruit and milk. I was on an 1800 cal a day diet and was to choose 5 carb portions at each meal. This included the milk, fruit and veggies, it wasn't only starchy carbs. If there was pasta offered at any meal I would choose something else from the ala carte menu. Part of the reason my blood sugar was high was I had had heart surgery. By the time I left the hospital 7 days later I was able to skip the insulin and go on Metformin and Glimiperide, which my PCP discontinued after a week. At first I was able to follow the same type of diet at home, but little by little I ate more carbs and larger meals and my readings got worse. It was just recently that they got into the 200s and 300s and I went back on the Glimiperide to get it back down.

It seems that with insulin, you test before meals to see how much insulin you need. With oral meds, you test post prandial to see if your meal spiked you glucose.

I rarely track, but when I do I enter my food on Fitday. I only seem to do it when I know I've been good that day! Sort of the way I only weigh when I feel as though I've lost. It doesn't change the results, just my frame of mind.

06-20-2014, 05:10 PM
It is pretty standard for the American Diabetes Association and medical practitioners to go with 45 carbs per meal and 15 per snack... The problem is I have not heard from a diabetic yet who can eat that amount without a serious SPIKE after the meal! As stated above by Carol Sue... "they adjust your meds according to your testing results" and THEREIN lies the problem. If your ONLY GOAL is to control your blood sugar by taking as much medication as needed to keep it in line, that probably will work for awhile. BUT shouldn't the goal be to find an eating plan that keeps your sugar from spiking in the first place? Certainly not everyone will be able to get completely off meds (many do, but not all even with the best eating plans!)

Recently, the ADA just started recognizing that their suggested carb limits are too high and need to be adjusted down for many (most if not all is more likely). I don't know if they have officially changed the recommendations, but perhaps they are moving in that direction! (Though I doubt the pharmaceutical companies would be behind that!)

06-20-2014, 07:38 PM
I know that I won't lose weight at 45 grams of carbs per meal. Guess I will just try and see what level is best for me.
I plan to eat a meal out tomorrow but will make healthy choices.

06-21-2014, 11:49 AM
Dgramie - I too cannot eat the ADA recommended carbs. I am officially pre-D. One more .10 on my A1C and I would have been official. I keep my FBS down by eating very few processed carbs. I eat lots of vegetables and fat. I also eat fruit, meat, cheese, yogurt, eggs, nuts and seeds. I do have V8 every day just because I love V8. Once in a while I have a slice of pumpernickel or a rice cake to put a hamburger on.

Now my FBS is still not normal - I average about 110. I hope I am more normal after losing this belly weight. I will always have to watch my carb intake, but it would be nice to have some pizza or french bread now and then. I can live without actual sugar, but a weekend normal meal out would be nice.

06-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Laurie, a co-worker of mine told me that her mother lost 50 lbs with diet and exercise and was able to stop her diabetes meds completely. Now that I am retired I no longer see that woman, but I'm curious as to whether her mother was able to maintain the loss and stay off her meds long term. I would love to be able to do that. I don't mind the Metformin because I have no side effects with it, but I don't like having to take the Glimiperide.

I need to take into consideration that too much low carb food is still bad. Blood sugar will rise with larger meals, too.

06-21-2014, 01:42 PM
Hi Chickies. Just a quick flyby to let you know I'm still around and doing good. BS was 145 this morning which isn't bad since I am eating a little more carbs than usual. However, I did manage to eat a lot of veggies yesterday. Also really wasn't fasting as I forgot to check fasting before I had drank some coffee with 1 splenda in it and I know splenda raises my blood sugar just a tad. So fasting probably would have been in high 130s. So I'm happy with it. Saw great grandson and he is precious.

My Daddy gave us a scare. The day we got here his bp was up and bouncing around. Went too high for us to do much of anything yesterday. It was fine by the time he went to the doctor's office. I think it scares him when it goes up at all because his Daddy had a stroke before he died and his great grandfather on his Mother's side had a stroke. However, he got over his. He is fine today, but it makes me truly glad that I came to see him.

Busy for next few days. My cousins I've never met I was hoping to go see has decided to come here and spend the night in town. That perked my Daddy up as he has been wanting to see them. He had thought about driving up to see them. We are excited about them getting to meet my sisters too. I will catch y'all again when I can. Y'all have a great weekend.

06-21-2014, 07:01 PM
Oh girls, I took Olivia to a birthday party at 3:30. Due to being gone all day trying to deal with my car's AC issues, I had not eaten since about 10:30. I ate a serving if almonds on the way but I was so hungry I had a small slice of cake and tiny scoop of ice cream. Holy cow, got home and checked my BS almost two hours later and saw my highest number ever of 190. Yowzers.

06-22-2014, 02:04 PM
Shannon, I would chalk this up to "lessons learned." Even though you are considered pre-diabetic, you are apparently insulin resistant. Your insulin does not react fast enough to start getting rid of the sugar as soon as you eat it. If you had had something else with the cake and ice cream, you might not have had such a drastic reaction.

If you find yourself in this situation again, I would either have something to take with you that you could eat on the way or stop somewhere and get something. I think if you weren't so hungry you would have passed on the cake and ice cream. (or maybe not! LOL )

My blood sugar is still running high. I haven't eaten many carbs so I'm blaming it on big meals.

I looked at the slip the doctor gave me for my labs and he did not include thyroid on it. I think I'm going to stop at the office and ask him to add it on. If I'm going to get bloodwork done I want it all done at once.

06-23-2014, 11:07 AM
Carol Sue, definitely a lesson learned. I'm sure the super high number was tied tightly to the fact I had not eaten in a while and ate nothing of substance with the sugary items but it scared the crap out if me! I looked online and that number is outside the range allowed for diabetics so I was way off the chart. I do think by eating less carbs like I do most of the time my body is becoming even more sensitive to their effects. I have heard others say the same (higher spikes when they go off plan than they used to get). Either way I think it was a good lesson. I was dizzy and did not feel well. After that we ate dinner (I had a low carb salad with grilled chicken) and it dropped from 190 to 84 within about an hour, that actually made me feel bad too...more dizziness and lethargic. So, the glucose swinging up and down was not enjoyable. I've been back on plan since.

We spent most of the weekend continuing to deal with my car. We are almost $1K into repairs and the AC is still not right, it is back in the shop again. We are really regretting not trading my car in (and by we I mean my hubby since it was his decision and I was actually in favor of trading mine and keeping his, lol).

Yesterday was Olivia's birthday but since her party is next Saturday we just let her open presents and cards, have a friend over to play and then took the friend to dinner. She is at a half day cooking camp at the YMCA this week. It will be another 6 weeks before she is gone in the mornings again so I will be busy running errands and cleaning house this week to catch up from the last month of preschool being out.

This week makes 3 months of trying to get healthier. I hit a new low today and have lost 28 lbs!

06-23-2014, 11:17 AM
Good job on the 28 lbs! That is a great loss for 3 months. And dropping your BS back to the 80s is good too, even though it made you feel dizzy. I believe it was not the 84 that made you feel bad, because that is a great reading, but it was probably the rapid drop.

I had never heard of being more sensitive to carbs after cutting back. Maybe that's why the ADA tells us to eat 45 gm per meal. I could do that when I was first diagnosed, but could never do it now.

I am back down to 193. I could feel that I had lost. We didn't have dinner last night and I just had some fried eggs. Got hungry later and ate some veggies. I want to continue down and get into the 180s instead of going back up again!

06-23-2014, 12:03 PM
I have added another veggie to my diet. Grilled hearts of romaine. I saw a recipe for this and it looked so good! I cut the romaine hearts in half lengthwise with the core on. I spray the 2 halves with olive oil spray and sprinkle with salt and pepper. Heat the grill pan, place romaine cut side down and grill, checking frequently. You want it to get singed and have grill marks. I press down on it to spread it out to get the singe on as much of it as possible. Take it off the pan, cut off the core and chop it into bite size pieces. Drizzle with a little blue cheese dressing with a sprinkling of bacon bits. The olive oil and salt and pepper really is enough seasoning, so I only had a very small amount of the dressing. I don't eat a lot of salads because I prefer warm food, so this is a little warm and suits my tastes just fine.

Another thing I want to try is cooked leeks. I have used them in place of chopped onions, but over the weekend Martha Stewart cooked them as a vegetable. I will have to research the recipe because I don't remember the whole thing, but she started out by sauteing the who leeks slowly in some olive oil until lightly browned and soft. I can't remember what she did with them after that, but I'm going to try to find out! They looked good.

06-23-2014, 01:53 PM
Mmm, those sound good! I am hoping to try a new zucchini dish this week, supposed to taste like the fried apples at cracker barrel

06-23-2014, 02:55 PM
I saw that recipe online, but I have never had the fried apples at Cracker Barrel. Sounds good, though!

That reminds me of back in the 60's there was a Mock Apple Pie recipe made with Ritz Crackers. DHs mother made it and didn't tell them what it was. They were eating it and it TASTED like apple pie, but when she told them it was not apples but Ritz Crackers, they all wanted to throw up! LOL I always threaten him with making that.

06-23-2014, 06:56 PM
Fbs was 94 this morning. I have had a really good day. My clear liquid diet starts tommorow. I am dreading the test prep but just want it behind me. Praying for answers on why my stomach hurts so much.
I have a ladies meeting at church tonight and have no clue what the meal will be. I hate not knowing or how to plan my calories. So today I have eaten really lite all day.

06-24-2014, 10:00 AM
Good luck with your test prep dgramie! You could always take a snack with you tonight just in case you need it. I have found I can avoid whatever carbs are in a meal elsewhere but might need just a little something extra to go with whatever part of the meal I am eating. Nuts are usually my standby.

FBS was 101 yesterday and 95 today. Weight is holding in the 182 area.

Tonight I am making two new dishes. The faux fried apples I mentioned and a cauliflower casserole (I am debating between a "loaded" one with bacon or a smoke gouda one). Hopefully the steaks I have out will thaw in time and hubby can grill those up.

Olivia really liked camp yesterday and was excited to go today in her swimsuit since they are swimming this morning. I didn't get much done yesterday but did do a big walmart run last night. Between cooking breakfast and lunch, not getting much done with this extra time!

06-24-2014, 10:38 AM
dgramie, I don't recall you having stomach pains. I thought you were going in for a lumpectemy. This is probably TMI, but the last prep I had to do was for my colostomy reversal. Imagine going through the prep while wearing a colostomy bag. LOL I just took a book into the bathroom with me for the duration.

Shannon, both of the cauliflower casseroles sound good. Have you made them before or will this be the first time? I finally bought a head of cauliflower and I'm going to make cauliflower rice and freeze it in portion packages. I hope I don't screw it up. I rarely buy fresh cauliflower. I went into Aldi's and it was $2.79 and I thought that was too much, until I went into 2 other grocery stores and it was $3.99. So back to Aldi's! I'm wondering if I have to dry it out before I freeze it.

182 was my all time (long time) low that I'm trying to get back to as a short term goal, but it's turning into a long term goal. That was when all my nice pants fit me well. I don't know if that will be the case when I get there again because my abdominal muscles have weakened so much after surgery. 5 inches of my 20 lb gain was in my belly. I guess that's what body shapers are for.

06-24-2014, 11:31 AM
Carol Sue, I've done mashed cauli and cauli rice but this will be the first baked type dish with it. At my Aldi cauli is $1.99 :-) my favorite cauli rice is when I cook it with a little heavy whipping cream and cheese....it comes out like a risotto almost. It's a very forgiving veggie, I don't think you can ruin it.

06-24-2014, 01:49 PM
Carol sue - colonospcy is routine. I had one a few yrs back and had polyps so time for a repeat. Doing the scope because I do have stomach pain a lot. Breast lump surgery is July 7. Hoping this will give me a clean bill of health.
Pray my potassium is up to normal or all this prep will be useless torture.
Fbs was 99 today.

06-25-2014, 01:09 PM
dgramie, I hope all your tests come out fine.

I wanted to check in but I don't have much to say. I am in the middle of highlighting my hair and I'm waiting for the color to develop.

See ya later!

06-25-2014, 02:43 PM
Dinner last night was great! Both the sides I made were good and the cauli recipe was phenomenal! I had the leftovers just now and wish there were more! I had hardly any sleep last night. Drank too much caffeine and was up late. Then the dog and hubby were both loud so I ended up on the floor in the hall where I slept for just over 4 hours before Olivia woke. I was not very productive while she was at camp today and we are down to two more days. I will likely have to go retrieve my car from the shop on one of those days and since it's 40 min away that will take up a whole camp session....yikes, time got away from me this week. I still have a giant to do list. Oh well.... I was so tired this morning I forgot to check my FBS.

06-26-2014, 08:06 AM
Shannon, which cauli recipe did you make? Are you going to share the recipe? I still haven't "riced" my cauliflower and I used half of it to make a recipe DH wanted, but I'll get to it.

Before bed my BS was 98 and it was 147 this morning. :?: I didn't eat anything before bed, but I was coughing a bit during the night and took a cough drop. They are "sugar free" but I don't know about a carb count. I also didn't sleep well.

My highlights turned out nice. I never know what I'm going to end up with because I can never remember what I did last time. LOL I don't have a lot of gray, but the highlights camoflauge the ones I have.

I dropped off my blood work script at the Dr office for him to add thyroid to it and will pick it up this afternoon. This morning I have to go for an Echocardiogram at 10:15. I hope it doesn't show any changes from last time.

Nothing else scheduled for today, so I will probably come home and clean so I don't have to do it over the weekend.

06-26-2014, 02:28 PM
Carol Sue, how was tbe echo? Here is the cauli recipe, it is so good!! http://buttoni.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/smoked-gouda-cauliflower/

Last night I did an experiment. I made my regular spaghetti with run of the mill pasta and tested at 1 and 2 hours and got 99 and 103 respectively. I didn't test after that bc it didn't seem to be rising high enough for me to think I should check. I did eat a sugar free snack later. My FBS was 103. So, I think my particular sauce and pasta combo is safe for me. I was hoping that might be the case bc all the substitutes I've tried have been less than optimal (though edible). Do you think my assumption sounds ok? We eat spaghetti about once a week. I'm thinking I can just eat it the way I normally do (with shredded cheese, no bread) and just test each time. As long as it stays the way it was last night I think it will be ok.

When I stay in my plan my weight typically drops a little each day with a loss of 1.5-3 lbs by end of week. This week I've been 100% on plan and the scale isn't budging and it's gone up a bit. I've been on my cycle so maybe it's that. I decided to pick up lunch today. I got a grilled chicken salad but one with more fruit than I normally get. I just wanted sonething with more carbs. I'm feeling frustrated with the scale. At any rate I will test in 2 hrs just to make sure it wasn't too much.

06-26-2014, 02:52 PM
The echo went fine. Sometimes the tech will make comments, but this one didn't. I always have to wait until the doctor reviews it, anyway. Actually, we spend the whole time discussing her upcoming wedding. LOL She was excited and I think she just wanted to talk about it.

I would continue to eat that sauce and pasta combo but continue to test up to 3 hours afterwards. If you continue to be able to eat it without getting a spike, go for it! I notice I don't get as high a spike with pasta as I do bread. For me, bread is like eating a cup of sugar with a spoon!

I wouldn't be concerned about the stall on the scale. You have been losing good and your body is adjusting to that loss. I wouldn't change anything. You are sticking to plan very well and you will continue to lose.

06-26-2014, 04:20 PM
The echo went fine. Sometimes the tech will make comments, but this one didn't. I always have to wait until the doctor reviews it, anyway. Actually, we spend the whole time discussing her upcoming wedding. LOL She was excited and I think she just wanted to talk about it.

I would continue to eat that sauce and pasta combo but continue to test up to 3 hours afterwards. If you continue to be able to eat it without getting a spike, go for it! I notice I don't get as high a spike with pasta as I do bread. For me, bread is like eating a cup of sugar with a spoon!

I wouldn't be concerned about the stall on the scale. You have been losing good and your body is adjusting to that loss. I wouldn't change anything. You are sticking to plan very well and you will continue to lose.

Keep us posted on your results. I will check the 3 hr next time. My BS was lower than usual yesterday, around 85 shortly before dinner, so that could be why it didn't seem to spike. I'm definitely going to keep testing but excited that I might be able to do one normal thing like I've always done. Lately I feel weary of all the cooking and time in the kitchen. I enjoy cooking but other things are being neglected, like my crafty side and even some day to day cleaning, organizing....I just spend so much time in the kitchen. And I agree, just need to be patient and wait for the scale to start moving again. I have a goal to lose 8 lbs in June, I am just shy of my goal.

06-26-2014, 08:15 PM
Colonospcy was fine. Scope showed I have Barrett esphegus. So major diet changes. I started yesterday. I will eat mainly soft foods until things calm down a bit.
My lumpectomy has been changed to Monday. The dr is going to be out of town when it was scheduled.
My fbs was 94 today.
I cooked up the first mess of squash from my garden tonight. It was sooo good!!

06-26-2014, 09:40 PM
I'm home and thrilled that after eating IE style that I am down 2.8 lbs. FBS has remained in 120s to 130s. Highest reading was 152 one day, but I had loads of carbs (no options) and not sure all the 130s + were bad because I was up later at night and up early in mornings doing fbs too early. When I was able to check after good nights sleep, it was lower in 120s.

We took turns driving about 13 hrs yesterday deciding that we wanted to get home. I've been busy getting house back in order. Interesting thing is that I ate quite a bit of carbs on trip although, I did eat only 2 meals a day and only a few snacks although I did not eat much when I did eat snacks.

I think I have learned a few things about myself from this trip. One is that weighing everyday which IE recommends you don't do, just me be one of the things that has been working against me. Also, I don't think carbs are my enemy within reason. So I'm going to continue eating pretty much like I did on the trip and only weigh maybe 1 time a week. No calorie or carb counting, but just eat Intuitively. I did find that I do instinctively eat healthy foods when left to eat what I want to eat. I think maybe I just need to relax and stop being so caught up thinking about food all the time and worrying about what I'm eating.

dgramie Glad you found out part of your problem and can change diet to accommodate it. I hope all goes well with the lumpectomy. Praying for you.

Carol Sue and Shannon I'll catch up with y'all later. I am tired after long drive and house cleaning. I'll write more tomorrow.

06-26-2014, 10:22 PM
Glad you are back home safe and sound Trish!

06-27-2014, 12:45 PM
I saw a new book at Sam's Club in IN when DDIL and I were walking after dinner one evening. Talked myself out of buying another book, but couldn't get the book out of my mind. When DH and my DS and her hubby and I went to Sam's in Waco, I looked for and found the book and bought it. Wish I had bought one for my Daddy and will get one and send it to him if I can find it at our Sam's today. It is called SuperFoods 50 Best Foods to Change Your Life. It is full of info on foods and how they affect such things as lowers bp, bs etc.

Since I've come to realize that I really love eating healthier foods, this book will become my new guide to eating healthier foods to help heal or prevent health conditions etc that I need to be concerned about for me and my family. I will be eating lower carbs, however, it won't be Atkins low. Will still be more of a "personal plan" that I will create to fit the health needs of me and my family. We take loads of vitamins, however, I've always believed that if you knew how to eat that you wouldn't have to take so many of them because you would get them in your foods. I actually think DH is willing to start eating healthier foods now because he is tired of taking so many vitamins. We also walked and active as much as we could on the trip which I am sure helped a lot. I've decided to use the WW guide for eating plenty of fruits and veggies etc, but not count points. I think their 8 essential health guidelines are excellent guidelines to use with Intuitive Eating, but keep the starchy carbs at a minimum like 1 serving with a meal, but not eliminate them all together and use only the healthier fats like EVOO and CO.

Never was sure what fbs really was because of the timing of readings although I did keep up with it and wrote them down on my chart. FBS was 122 this morning. Weight was 219.6, but fluctuating daily weights are normal for me. So it is great to know that my trip didn't hurt the progress that I had made before we left. When we could, DH and I chose to eat at Cracker Barrel. We ended up eating the deep fried fish with veggies every time we ate there. I think we had fish everyday on our way home. DH has decided that he likes their fried fish better than Long John Silvers. I am so glad for that because I can have a salad and greens with the fish. I know the baked fish is better, but I don't think the fried once in a while balanced with the veggies will hurt me.

Shannon I wouldn't worry about the slight gain. If you have eaten off and having your monthly, you will probably see a loss in a few days. I remember years ago hearing someone at WW say that it sometimes takes 2 weeks back OP to see the drop in weight. Also sounds like you have been under a lot of pressure with the car in the shop, not enough sleep etc.

Carol Sue Praying for good news from tests. Let us know how it all goes.

Sorry this has been so long. Don't know if I've caught up or not so will just go from today. Shopping to do today to get healthy foods in the house. Y'all have a great weekend.

06-27-2014, 01:12 PM
Just popping in to see how the Sugar Babies are doing! Meowee used to call us that back in the day. Or maybe it was Ellen.

Anyhow, I'm really, really bogged down with work - mainly the Mill stuff - but am holding my own for weight and have pretty stable FBGL readings. Still have not gone for HA1C.

Keep up the good work! And don't forget we have a recipe section where we can collect those recipes.

06-27-2014, 03:43 PM
Fbs was 99 today. I didn't snack before bed. I am pleased with my numbers and can't wait to see my next A1C.
Had leftover green beans and squash for lunch. How can I forget how much I love veggies.

06-27-2014, 06:40 PM
Fbs was 99 today. I didn't snack before bed. I am pleased with my numbers and can't wait to see my next A1C.
Had leftover green beans and squash for lunch. How can I forget how much I love veggies.

I wonder that too Dgramie. I was in the store today hitting the veggies. I am ready for a beautiful salad bought cabbage, brussel sprouts etc. I just love eating healthy.

06-27-2014, 09:08 PM
Big bummer! Olivia came home from half day camp today and was really whiny (not unusual) and kept complaining about her mouth and tummy. Ended up taking her to the ped at the end of the day and she has strep. I had to cancel her birthday party that was going to be tomorrow afternoon :-( And, both hubby and I are not feeling so great so we may have it too. Gah!

06-27-2014, 09:41 PM
Big bummer! Olivia came home from half day camp today and was really whiny (not unusual) and kept complaining about her mouth and tummy. Ended up taking her to the ped at the end of the day and she has strep. I had to cancel her birthday party that was going to be tomorrow afternoon :-( And, both hubby and I are not feeling so great so we may have it too. Gah!

So sorry. Hope y'all are feeling better soon.

06-27-2014, 09:42 PM
Ruthie Good to hear from you.

Bonnie, Rennie and others Check in.

06-28-2014, 09:00 AM
Fbs was 95. My scales seem kinda stuck but I will keep at it and they will go down.

06-28-2014, 11:49 AM
Hi Everybody :wave:

Trish, glad you're back :hug:

Shannon I hope the Shannon household feels better soon, sending God's healing power your way :hug:

... for that matter sending God's healing power everyone's way :hug:

06-28-2014, 02:20 PM
Hello Ladies I hope i can jump in here having a tough day. I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2009 & did really good that year but then just (long story short...) things fell apart. I stopped taking meds, stopped going to the doctor, stopped testing, regained my weight.

But this week I decided to get my act back together. I went to the doctor and i love my new doctor. The next day I tested my FBS...it was 270! Now that I am on metformin it is going down alittle bit everyday. Today my FBS was 214. Still so high right? omg. How am I not dead :?:

Metformin is making me sick as **** too. Plus I was also diagnosed with anxiety disorder & bipolar and am on meds for that which one of them says it can cause high BS and weight gain...fun!

How often do you guys test your BS?

06-28-2014, 02:53 PM
Welcome Moonkissed! I am prediabetic and test my FBS most every day and test postprandial if I eat off plan or eat something unusual that I'm not sure about. My A1c was tipping over into a Type 2 diagnosis at end of year. In late March I started eating low carb and now my FBS (at home) is "normal". I have also lost 28 lbs.

06-28-2014, 03:03 PM
Hi Moonkissed! It sound like you have come to the right place. We are the BEST Diabetes Forum on the internet! May I ask what your Metformin dosage is? You should be starting out with a small dose, possible 500 MG once or twice a day and increasing as needed. Too much will cause some difficulty for some. I started out at 500mg twice a day, then went to 3X a day and then to 850 3X a day. That dosage had me nauseated and vomiting in the middle of the night, so I cut back to twice a day and added a different med. With low carb eating I have brought my glucose down to much better levels and am hoping to wean myself off the second med.
I think fasting should be between 80 - 110. People test differently depending on their circumstances. Besides testing AM, you should test 2-3 hours after meals to see what foods spike your blood sugar and then avoid those foods. Cutting out or back on sweets and starchy carbs like bread, potatoes, pasta, rice and salty snacks will help. The testing after meals will tell you which ones you can keep, or maybe you can just eat small portions of that food. Eat lots of veggies, raw and cooked. Exercise helps lower glucose, so if you can get an exercise program started that will help, as well as taking a walk after meals, 15 minutes or so.

The worst thing about letting your glucose levels run too high is it damages your eyes and could cause blindness over time. Also, you have to be very careful of your feet, because high sugar levels can cause you to need an amputation. It also causes kidney damage, and most of these types of damages cannot be reversed. Once you have it, it's too late, so it's important to change things now!

We spend a lot of time discussing what works for us and what doesn't, and giving each other pointers and encouragement.

Looking forward to getting to know you!

06-28-2014, 03:18 PM
I have a roaster full of stuffed cabbage rolls cooking out on the deck for all the neighbors to smell...and a pot of halusky cooking on the stove. No cooking for me for a couple days.

Shannon, sorry to hear Olivia is sick and hope you and DH aren't getting sick, too.

Rennie, Good to see your here! We always miss you when you go AWOL.

Trish, Glad to see you back and happy to hear your are settling in with your food plan. I'm going to look into that book you mentioned.

dgramie, I have heard of Barretts Esophagus and will have to read up on it to learn more about it. Did the doctor put you on meds for it?

What kind of squash did you cook and how did you prepare it?

Hi Ruthie! I always forget about the recipe thread.

:wave: JLus, Kris, Lotsakids, Bonnie, Silentartic, FatMad! And anyone else I might have missed.

06-28-2014, 04:21 PM
Moon kissed my husband is both diabetic and bipolar. He has to really keep a close eye on his bs levels. He tried one bipolar med that shot his glucose to over 600. Needless to say he was only on tht one a few days. I'm here if you ever need an ear. I am prediabetic.

Carol sue I am on Prilosec twice a day until I talk with him later this wk.
I cook squash like my grandmother did. I stew it down to nothing with a little light margarine. Then flip it over to a skillet and sprinkle with a 1/2 pk of Splenda and cook it till it starts to stick. Then flip and and continue until it's kinda brown. I love yellow squash any way it's cooked. I picked 10 out of my garden and plan to cook them tomorrow so I can eat on them for a few days.

Dr said I needed to change my eating habits. So today we went to Mexican and I skipped salsa and chips. I had a ground beef burrito and a few of my refried beans. I was satisfied and not over stuffed. So far no heartburn :)

06-28-2014, 04:22 PM
Moonkissed :welcome3: By all means jump in and become a part of us. I agree with Carol Sue. This is the best diabetic group on the net. We all find our own way of eating to get our blood sugar under control because not everyone can do extremely low carb, but neither can we do the amount of carbs the American Diabetes Association recommends.

When I was diagnosed with diabetes, my Daddy told me about one of my step-sister's hubby who got his diabetes under control by testing like Carol Sue mentioned above. Over a period of time, he would test his blood sugar after eating a certain food to see what raised his blood sugar and what doesn't. From that list of foods, he worked out his routine of eating. Example, he learned that an egg mcmuffin would not raise his bs if he took the top piece of bread off. So that became his breakfast on the way to work everyday. He found that peanuts were a great snack for his bs and Daddy said he kept them around for a quick snack. I used the McMuffin idea while on my recent trip. However, as much as I used to love peanuts, I can't stand them any more so that doesn't work for me.

I did learn by following his example of testing that I cannot eat a normal serving of oatmeal, but I can eat half a serving without raising my blood sugar.

I think the best thing we have all learned is that what works for one doesn't work for all. Our plan, even when using a particular diet plan, must be "personal". Just because the ADA recommends it or some diet says we can have it, does not mean that I can have it. Testing my bs after eating that particular food may show that my body does not tolerate it. It has really surprised my doctor when I share with him how my bs raises when I eat some foods. However, he also appreciates the fact that I work at it.

For me, having a good doctor who is willing to work with me and who respects my efforts is half the battle. I'm glad you have a good doctor to help you.

06-28-2014, 04:29 PM
Another weekend saga.....took my dog to the vet bc he had not 100% improved after 2 weeks of antibiotics for bronchitis. He's had alot of bronchitis over the last year or two due to collapsed trachea which makes him more susceptible to infection. So, they did xrays and discovered he has 3-4 nodules around his windpipe. It was lunch time when we left and I was upset, crying and not caring about finding the perfect meal so I aimlessly drove around and ordered at Sonic (hot dog, diet drink and tater tots). I thought it would be ok, especially since I mowed the yard around the 1 hour mark but my 2 hour BS was 151. Argh!

06-28-2014, 05:25 PM
Shannon Sorry about your dog. You were upset and these times of things happen. I don't think you have to worry about the lunch on top of everything else, just get back OP and you'll be okay. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks everyone for the welcome back home. I've got my healthy foods in the house and feels so good to be eating them again. Had my favorite breakfast of eggs, bacon and 1/2 avocado. I've switched to a 40 calorie wheat bread and was satisfied with one slice. I bought a pizza (a Saturday favorite around here), but I made a good salad to go with it. Weight Watcher's recommends a minimum of 5 fruits and veggies so I had 3 servings of fruits and will allow myself a minimum serving of 3 or 4 veggies. I think I will be getting most of my carbs most days from fruits and veggies. Save the carby foods for weekends or when eating out. I know I said it before, but I have to say it again, it sure feels good eating healthy again.

06-28-2014, 06:46 PM
:hug: Thanks everyone.
I am taking 500 MG metformin twice a day. I always take it with food too.

That is a good idea about testing after I eat. I will start doing that too. I am still getting used to testing again. It doesn't hurt really much but it still always makes me jumpy to hit the button on my lancet device lol.

06-28-2014, 10:50 PM
moonkissed :welcome: to the thread :). When I was first diagnosed my FBS was really high also, my A1c was 10.4. I was put on metformin which also made me so sick it was horrible. It took me about two full months to get myself together. I posted on the diabetic forums to gain a lot of information. I'm not sure when I started posting with the ladies here but they are a wealth of information. Carol Sue and myself have had some really high reading so we know all too well what's going through your head. I'll be honest and I have never said this on here ... I have had some reading over 300 and I know you are supposed to immediately go to the emergency room but the job I had at the time would have found a way to fire me and I couldn't afford to have that happen. You are in great hands here. I only check first thing in the morning fasting. The only time I test at another time during the day is if I am feeling bad. The doctor told me to walk for at least 20 minutes after my meals to help with bs readings. I have never done that but I will said a great walk after dinner sure does help :) LOL it still makes me jumpy when I hit the button on my lancet device also. I wonder if it will ever change. My last A1c was 6.5 I think.

Carol Sue they started me at 2000mg a day immediately :( I so want to try the stuffed cabbage rolls, they just sound delicious to me. YUM :)

dgramie, I like my yellow squash the same way with onion, but now I cook it with zucchini also. Salsa is almost a free food, you can add it to your burrito next time, so good :)

:hug: Shannon :hug:

Trish I have to agree it does feel good to eat healthy ... my question to me is "why can't I do it like I am supposed to?" :dizzy:

06-29-2014, 08:59 AM
Thanks :) This morning my FBS was 152 which is still high but way way way better then it was. This time I took it as soon as I woke up.

One another group I am on they suggested I test first thing in the morning. Before I was testing before I ate but after I walked the dog and fed the cats & did all my morning bathroom stuff. So that was like 40-60 mins after I was awake. I guess I didn't think about it lol

I am also going to test at night before bed to see what difference it is between then and morning.

love2b150- getting your A1C from 10.4 to 6.5 is nice :) I am terrified of what mine will be. Awaiting the results now. I just want to do really really well right now so when I go back to the doctor in a month she won't put me on insulin. lol I am glad I am not the only one who gets jumpy testing! :dizzy:

06-29-2014, 10:31 AM
Shannon- I love salsa but for now have to leave all tomato based products alone. I have Gerds bad.

My fbs was 90. I am a daily weigher and scales have kinda been stuck but today rewarded me with a 2lb loss. I have now relost 20lbs. I still have 20 to go to be back at my lowest. And another 40 after that to get to goal.

06-29-2014, 10:36 AM
moonkissed, you can tell the doctor that you want to try to use diet and exercise to lower your blood sugar instead of taking insulin. There are also other pills that can be taken. Remember though, insulin and many pills can cause weight gain, which you don't want. You can do this if you cut out as many carbs as you can, and find out which ones spike your blood sugar.

Is your lancing device adjustable? The one I'm currently using is not and my fingers get pretty sore. I have an adjustable one around here somewhere. I'm going to get it out and try using that one. Someone told me to test it out and set it at the lowest setting that works for you.

Shannon, I am sorry to hear that your doggy is sick. Is he a small dog? We have a Maltese and he coughs and chokes a lot. He was never diagnosed with a collapsed trachea but it's prevalent with small dogs. It was bad for a while but he has improved lately. I hope the vet can fix him up.

The 151 wasn't as bad as the 190. Probably caused by the hot dog bun, or the fact that you had 2 carbs (bun and potatoes) at the same meal.

Trish, I noticed when we went to Las Vegas that I missed my healthy foods. We were eating out at every meal and it was all heavy meals. Luckily it was only 4 days and then I could come home and eat a plate of vegetables. When we went to Ocean City we ate every dinner at a buffet that had an early bird special. That was good because I was able to pick only the things I wanted and were healthy. This was all before my diabetes diagnosis.

Rennie, this is the first I've heard that you are supposed to go to the ER if your BS goes over 300! I used to get that often! Usually I would just walk on my treadmill a bit to bring it down, but it never came down to a good level. In the past several months I have had 1 reading in the 200s. Some are higher than they should be, but not as high as I used to get.

06-29-2014, 11:21 AM
FBS 93 this morning and new low on the scale 181.8. I'm 0.2 away from my goal of losing 8 lbs in June, lol! TMI, but if I could just go potty
I'm sure I'd have a whoosh!

Carol Sue because of our dog's age, 13, and the fact that he already has congestive heart failure and is weakened, we won't treat the cancer. We are putting him on prednisone which will temporarily shrink the nodules and "confuse" the cancer cells giving him some more time feeling good but eventually (no idea when) it will start growing again and it will be even quicker than before, that will be the end. He is a small dog, pomeranian. On the xrays the windpipe was clear and lifted up (by the nodules) rather than falling down so she said that the trachea looked okay. It is possible they were misdiagnosing the collapsed trachea all this time and it was actually the nodules pushing on it causing the coughing, or maybe a combination of both...who knows!?

Today we have an afternoon appointment to see about seven houses. I was planning for my daughter to stay at my SIL's so that getting her in and out of the carseat, her running around, etc. would not drag the process out but I can't take her there now with the strep. Technically she is no longer contagious but SIL is pregnant. I am not looking forward to the chaos that will be part of this process but oh well, nothing I can do.

06-29-2014, 11:41 AM
Shannon, you have really had your hands full recently, but somehow, the weight loss is quite favorable and should brighten your spirits! Seven houses! I hope one of them works out for you.

I bought a Fitbit. I like gadgets, but this one is something I normally wouldn't buy because with everyone saying you should walk 10,000 steps a day, I know I will NEVER get near that. I will be lucky to get 10,000 steps a week. LOL My son and daughter-in-law keep buying me gift cards for Kohls for every occasion...birthday, mother's day, and I have been there a couple times and there's nothing I really want. I was talking to some people on 3FC and they all have one. I checked online and saw that Kohls sells them, so I decided that was what I would do with my gift cards. I haven't set it up yet, but I did copy the instruction manual from online. It also syncs with MFP somehow. I usually use Fitday, but can easily switch to MFP. I'm register...I just never used it. Maybe this will make me exercise more and be more diligent at tracking my food.

06-29-2014, 12:14 PM
Wannabehealthy- Thanks. My lancet is adjustable. I have it on a lower setting. I am so jealous that you have a fitbit lol I want one so bad. Maybe I splurge on my birthday and get one, though thats not until the end of September :( lol

Also for your dog you may want to use a harness instead of a collar when walking. You are right collapsed trachea is common for little dogs, but using a harness that fits well can help a ton to prevent that!
I have a little 10lb dog named Trixie. She is a chi/poodle mix & the light of my life :)

Shannonsnail- I am so very sorry to hear about your dog :hug: That is awful to go through. I had a cat we had to put down a few years back who got mouth cancer and it was just heartbreaking.

06-29-2014, 02:13 PM
moonkissed, I bought a harness for him, but we never use a collar or harness on him unless we are going to the vet or the groomer. We can't walk him because our road is busy with no sidewalks and you take your life into your own hands walking there. LOL He hates to be outside. He only goes out when he needs to and comes right back in when he's finished. He isn't doing any coughing or choking for the past few months.

06-29-2014, 04:34 PM
FBS was 84 this morning. Weight back up 3 lbs so when we went out to eat at Steak n Shake, I decided to have their taco salad instead of a burger. I don't know whose idea of read sliced taco type shells was, but they were aweful. And it didn't have hardly any taco meat and a terrible after taste. Needless to say, I will not be eating that again. I would have been happier if I'd gotten a burger and just eaten the meat and veggies out of it. Oh well, live and learn. We went from there to Home Depot to get a new blind to replace a broken one and DH finally decided to get a shade to put on our back door on enclosed back porch. We always try to get some walking done somewhere when we go out walking.

I think I will have to track my food probably on MFP again. I'm good at eating healthy foods, but still need to watch portions.

Although I seem to be doing pretty good, I am also eating some different foods so might should do some bs readings to see how some of these foods are affecting it.

Shannon Hope one of the houses works out for you and Olivia will even find house shopping fun. I love looking at new houses.

Y'all have a nice Sunday.

06-29-2014, 05:05 PM
My goodness you all are chatty ;) what else is new huh :)

Thanks moonkisses, IMO 152 is great compared to the 200's, way to go :high: ... Carol Sue thought I was crazy but when I was first diagnosed I wanted to be put on insulin. I had been on it twice before with the last two pregnancies so it didn't bother me and I knew what to do. However now that my body is use to the metformin and I can control my eating when I set my mind to do so I much rather not do anymore sticking and pricking than I have to ;) I hope you don't have to go on insulin either :crossed:

dgramie, sorry to hear you have GERD. I was reading something recently after seeing a commercial and was wondering if I may have that also. :congrat: on the scale moving and on the 20lbs loss/re-loss it's all great, way to go :high:

Carol Sue that is what I love about buffets I get to choose my healthy food, but if I desire I can get a taste of the unhealthy also just not a plate ;). I don't know who told me about an fbs over 300 but my Auntie use to get on me about it when I would mention it. Thank goodness for no more high readings :hug: I hope you love your fitbit as much as everyone else says they do. That's my next present to myself :) I have a pedometer that got really good reviews and the most I've walked is 3,720 steps. I'm wondering when and if I will ever get to 10,000 steps ;)

Go Shannon :high: I am so happy for you :congrat: on your new low, new decade here she comes :woohoo: Best of luck to you on house hunting. I hope you find something that you really love :)

Trish, my daughter was telling me how good steak n shakes burgers are. I've yet to go there. Sorry the taco was blah. Do you have a Hwy 55 where you are? Again my daughter took her brother and I there and oh my goodness, my son said Mommy their burgers are better than yours :D

my fbs is the lowest it's been in awhile at 116. I was happy and shocked to see that ... missed quite a few doses of metformin and saw some 130's to 150's but coming back down thank goodness.

06-29-2014, 06:58 PM
Rennie No we don't have a HWY 55 here. I've decided a good burger is better than some of the so called healthy salads we see in places. I just tracked my food for today on MFP and the sodium is so very high for that taco salad. So got a double whammy on that one. Oh, in reference to your comment yesterday, I don't know why we have those moments when we seem to forget how good we feel eating healthy. I think for me it is because I get fooled into thinking I'm being deprived because I can't have what we've been made to believe are "goodies". :dizzy:

I decided to start tracking on MFP starting today before things get out of hand. I'm glad I did. I've set my calorie goal at 1500 calories instead of the higher number they suggested. I'm through eating for the day as I'm just under at 1488 today.

My trip home was an eye opener for me. I see how my family and friends eat and am so thankful that I've learned to move away from that way of eating. I did see a friend of mine who is 82 yrs old who came to Cracker Barrel to eat with a bunch of us who got together. I swear she hasn't aged since I saw her about 11 yrs ago. I realized that she has always eat lots of veggies. A great realization for me to see what works. I don't think she ever slows down and never is sick. I used to tell her when we worked together in children's ministry together at church that when I grew up that I wanted to be just like her. I hadn't seen her in about 10 yrs and I think she is still my inspiration for a happy life.

For years I thought I wanted to move back home because I miss my family so very much, but I realized on my way home that I am right where I am supposed to be for a lot of reasons which is good because I don't think DH would ever move to TX.

06-29-2014, 10:26 PM
Trish I agree, especially now that I can easily eat one with lettuce, tomato and cheese :). I'm so proud of me. I really do need to start making the oopsie bread again though :) The sodium in restaurant food is a killer even if you eat a salad, it's just crazy :dizzy: Ha in any processed food just about. I love MFP it does keep me in check (as long as I allow it) ;) Aw Trish what a great epiphany :hug: How's your daughter holding up?

06-29-2014, 10:49 PM
Trish, I know what you're saying about seeing how other people eat. I feel that way about how my husband eats sometimes. For the most part, the other foods no longer even appeal to me now that I'm eating better, but I get depressed that I feel that I'm eating all these veggies, and baked chicken and fish, no junk food, but yet I'm not losing weight and all these other people are eating all this greasy fatty carby foods and don't have a weight problem. I know that my portions are too big, and too much healthy food is still not good for you, especially if you're trying to lose. It just seems so unfair to me. I am getting my blood work done on Tuesday and will get the results at my DR appointment a week later. I am very curious to see if my reading have improved. If they haven't, what's the sense in all this healthy eating, except for the fact that I now like these foods so much better! There should be some reward in store.

06-29-2014, 11:09 PM
Rennie Thanks for asking about my daughter. She seems to be holding up pretty good. I think the fact that her best friend needs her now because her husband has been sent home to die because he only has 10% of his heart working is keeping her from thinking of herself. Her friend was there for my DD and now she has to be there for her friend. I am concerned about her though. Although she hasn't always lived in the best of places, she has always kept her house very clean and decorated. There was no living room furniture to speak of which makes me wonder if they had to sell everything before Chester died but I didn't ask her. She will tell me when she is ready. Just praying for her.

06-30-2014, 12:46 AM
Trish, I hope it's not too much of a strain on her. I know helping her friend is shifting her mind a little, but my God that's a lot for one person to handle so soon. I'm praying that she has the strength that she needs to keep her head up and the healing power to mend her heart. The Word says He doesn't put on us more than we can bear, but in the flesh you have to wonder :hug: Blessings my friend :hug:

Carol Sue that is how I feel watching my daughter and three of the children eat and quite a few family members down here. It blows my mind that they are so fit yet eat what they want. But you know I often wonder ... what do they do when they get home? Are they running, walking whatever to burn the extra calories? I know my daughter and children aren't but you have to wonder about some of the other adults in our lives, at least I do, not gonna lie :shrug: And with liking all of the healthy foods a healthy you is gonna come out of this :hug:

06-30-2014, 01:01 AM
Will post more tomorrow but wanted to tell you that I think we may have found a house!

06-30-2014, 10:46 AM
Rennie, it's true that activity burns calories and exercise tones muscles, but if they are not eating the veggies and fruits the nutrients aren't there. I guess I'm making too big of a thing about nutrition, but it seems that with not being able to eat starchy carbs there isn't much more to add to your diet. I used to eat crackers all the time, every day. My box of crackers is still there but they are stale. They are the Fiber Select Wheat Thins that I used to eat for my fiber, but now I eat more beans for fiber and consider that a more healthy source. But why am I not seeing a benefit from not eating the crackers. This is how I think. The same with chips and pretzels. I look at them and I just see empty calories and salt. But I've eliminated them with no seeable change. When I worked, I had McDonald's breakfast every morning, but did not lose any weight when I retired and quit eating them. If they are so bad for you, why didn't I see an improvement of some kind when I quit eating them? Now my breakfast still has the eggs, but sometimes egg beaters, but I add veggies to them and don't have the fatty sausage or bacon, don't have the english muffin. Shouldn't there be some improvement there? If a dietician saw my diet they would say I have improved my nutritional intake, but what did that do for me? And I can't tell you the last time I had baked goods. I think I'm going to mention all this to my doctor when he goes over my bloodwork and see what he says about it. If my life isn't going to be any different with healthy eating, maybe I should just give it up. After all, I still have 2 leaky heart valves that will probably be what kills me in the end. Healthy eating can't change that.

On the other hand, DH recently ran into a former co-worker who had a massive heart attack 40 years ago that destroyed 25% of his heart. Now he walks every day, and when the weather is bad he walks up and down his cellar steps. He is now 92 years old. My uncle did the same thing and he lived to his 90's, being active and still driving, etc, up until the end.

Maybe exercise is more important than diet.

Shannon, I can't wait to hear about the house. I figured you should have been able to find something looking at 7 houses!

Trish, your daughter might be doing better emotionally than you think. Her partner was sick for a long time and she may have done her grieving a long time ago, knowing he was dying. She may really be able to offer sincere comfort to her friend in a similar situation. I can't imagine her selling her furniture for money to pay bills. Used furniture doesn't bring in that much cash. There could be other reasons for it. My friend who lost her husband to a violent automobile accident had to actually move away because going home to the same apartment day after day made her think he would be there. This might just be how your daughter handles things. She will come to you when she's ready, I'm sure. You are a good, caring mother. She saw you go through this before.

06-30-2014, 10:47 AM
Shannon Great. I hope the house works out for you.
rea, but the shambles/disarray of her house concerned me. That just isn't her. However, having been a widow 2 times in my life, I know it takes a while sometimes to bounce back. So I may have to just come right out and ask her about everything. I know she hides things from me to keep from worrying me. I don't want her to do that in this situation. This is a time when she needs support. It is good for her to be there for her friend, but if she isn't careful, she will do like I did. I was so concerned about being a good example for my kids, I put a lot of my grieving on the back burner and I didn't even know it until I met and married my present husband. I don't want her to do that. She must have her time to heal.

Chester had one son who lived with them and I think he really loves her like a Mom. He just clung to me when we hugged. His Dad was a godly man who loved the Lord and he really helped my DD find her way. So I know he taught this young man right. I encouraged him to be the man his Dad raised him to be and to always remember that someday he will see is Dad again. He clung to every word. I just hope he and Tanzy can really be there for each other. Thanks again for praying for her and also please pray for Chet-Chet as he heals from losing his Dad.

Busy day today. DH got a shade to put on back porch door and they sold him the wrong brackets so have to go get the right ones this afternoon. My beautician is coming for coffee this morning. She is really having problems right now still grieving for the loss of her parents in the past year, dealing with a brother who is stealing her's and her sister's inheritance and now the empty nest syndrome. A lot going on in her life.

FBS this morning was 113 which is great. Strange how I lost weight on vacation and gained 3 lbs when I got back home. So ending this month with a 1 lb weight loss. This is a real mystery as to how this crazy stuff works. Oh well, KOKO and trust that somewhere along the way that it will pay off. Tracking done and took the toast out of breakfast making it a low carb breakfast.

Have a good day.

06-30-2014, 02:01 PM
Congratulations Shannon on the house :) ... hope all is as well as can be :hug:

Carol Sue I do get what you're saying. I do agree whole heartedly. When I cut out all of the carbs and sweets in January I lost 10.2lbs that month. I have yet to come even close to that, not even half. I have tried to go back and re-evaluate it all since it is on here and on MFP and still nothing. I am thinking that my body has really gotten use to this new way of eating. My only other thing would be to add the carbs in maybe every other day and see if I can shake things up. I did calorie cycling once and it did work but it took a ton of planning. I felt like I did more meal planning than anything. So again I don't know. But I do understand how you feel. Hopefully when you bring it up to the doctor they can enlighten you more and maybe through in some great tips. Keep me posted :hug:

Trish sending prayers :hug:

my fbs was 118 this morning. I gained .6 this month but I'll take it. I was so worried that it would be more. I haven't done very well this month so it would have been my own fault.

06-30-2014, 02:45 PM
FBS was 95 and I am at a new low, meeting my June goal of 181.6. Next stop is my prepreg weight of 173! Took Olivia to her 4 year old dr appt and she had to get 4 shots :-( We submitted a mortgage loan application today so fingers crossed!

Now, onto the house! In a year of looking off and on, it is the only place hubby and I have ever been in agreement on (price, house and yard) if that tells you anything. It has all the space we are looking for. There are 4 bedrooms, a loft space, a two car garage with half of one side being an enclosed finished office space plus a completely separate "in law house" with full bath, kitchen., living room and bedroom. I would have a room for my hobbies (possible future business), Mark could use the separate house for his work office (and it would double as a place for guests), the loft space could be a toy area for Olivia, the garage office would be for Mark's hobbies and there is still an extra bedroom. The master is rather large as well. The yard is a tad bigger than what we have now....big enough for a swing set which is important to us. The driveway is big enough for our new land boat (the truck) too. The only negative....which we are not really sure about since we don't live there...is our agent is negative towards the location, feels that houses are not selling well there. The neighborhood was started in 2008 and then kind of stopped when finances got bad in the area. We asked my brother who lives there and he said he doesn't think anything is bad there. There are some apartments at the front entrance of the development that have some subsidized housing so our agent was negative towards that. They appeared to be in good condition to us and we drove back through the neighborhood around 9:30 that night before we left town and didn't see anything unusual.

06-30-2014, 02:58 PM
Oh my goodness Shannon you have found my dream home :) Tell me about the kitchen :) I'm happy for you and your family. Sounds great. How long has your brother lived in the area?

06-30-2014, 04:52 PM
Oh my goodness Shannon you have found my dream home :) Tell me about the kitchen :) I'm happy for you and your family. Sounds great. How long has your brother lived in the area?

My brother has been living there (Wilson) for probably 4 years. They had an apartment for a while then bought a fixer upper 1.5 yrs ago. They are pregnant right now. The kitchen is basically two long countertops so definitely more counters than I have now and more cabinets. The fridge is next to a tiny counter with more cabinets on a separate wall. There is a pantry though it is not really as big as my current one but with the extra drawers and cabinets, that should not matter. There is a window over the sink :) I would want to upgrade the countertops to granite at a later time but they are not bad at all, still in good condition. The stove is not gas, that is the only real neg and we may be able to change that later.

06-30-2014, 05:52 PM
Good, so despite what the Realtor is saying your brother would of course have your best interest at heart. I like gas stoves also but the last house we were in had the glass top stove and I loved that. I don't like this coal thing we have now. The cooking is so uneven. I like the sound of the size of the kitchen. Are you taking your appliances with you? I'm sure you'll get it, sounds so nice. One day for us, one day :)

06-30-2014, 06:01 PM
My FBS was higher today at 161. My doctor called me today about my test results so I thought she would tell me my A1C # but only said that my vitamin D was very low and the doctor wants me to start taking a vitamin. I didn't think about asking, maybe I will call tomorrow and ask.

Wannabehealthy I so know what you mean about eating well and not seeing results. It feels defeating. I remember once my sister & I both tried losing weight together. I ate perfectly on plan. I counted every calorie, I worked out, I didn't eat junk. My sister ate horribly and didn't work out and kept losing way way more then me. And omg I love wheat thins. I would eat them everyday with hummus :( This time I bought peppers to try with the hummus but haven't gotten to try it yet.

Shannon congrats on the house! That is great news. :carrot:

06-30-2014, 07:50 PM
Good, so despite what the Realtor is saying your brother would of course have your best interest at heart. I like gas stoves also but the last house we were in had the glass top stove and I loved that. I don't like this coal thing we have now. The cooking is so uneven. I like the sound of the size of the kitchen. Are you taking your appliances with you? I'm sure you'll get it, sounds so nice. One day for us, one day :)

Well, we are BUMMED! Got an email that the house went under contract :( We are so sad.

06-30-2014, 09:10 PM
moonkissed, hoping since the doctor didn't say anything about your A1c the numbers aren't bad :crossed:

Shannon, I'm sorry. :hug:

07-01-2014, 12:29 AM
I am home from the breast biopsy. It went good. It was a long day and I was really worked up this morning about it. My blood pressure was crazy high!!! They had to give me a nerve pill to calm me down. It worked and my bp dropped to normal. Having the guide placed was a bit freaky!! I was at the hospital for 7 hrs total. My dr believes my biopsy will come back good.
My fbs was 120 this morning.

07-01-2014, 10:25 AM
We got up early to drop off my car to be detailed before hubby needed to start working so I didn't check FBS or weight. I need to grocery shop, we are running out of everything. Gotta sit down and get a list together. I do want to pause to give a shout out to the humble cauliflower.....seriously, it is amazing. Last night I made a faux potato salad that was so yummy! I will come back to edit and add the link. Ok, here it is http://yourlighterside.com/2012/08/loaded-baked-potato-salad-with-cauliflower/
I can truly say that other than a standard baked potato I have completely replaced potatoes in my life! It helps that cauli is only $1.99 at Aldi here, if it were more I doubt I'd make it as much.

We are still crushed over here, just sad about losing what we feel was our dream house less than a day after seeing it. Trying to trust God that a better house is out there. Lots of just crappy news here lately though. My uncle had a heart attack last week and was found to have 3 massive blockages during a cath yesterday. He has been transferred to a bigger hospital for bypass. My cousin (who lives several hours away) is going to bring her son to stay with us a couple days once she knows when the bypass will be. I'm trying to get our house cleaned up. The prednisone seems to be doing what the vet said, Buddy is only coughing a little. I just dread when it stops working and we have to put him down.

07-01-2014, 10:26 AM
I am home from the breast biopsy. It went good. It was a long day and I was really worked up this morning about it. My blood pressure was crazy high!!! They had to give me a nerve pill to calm me down. It worked and my bp dropped to normal. Having the guide placed was a bit freaky!! I was at the hospital for 7 hrs total. My dr believes my biopsy will come back good.
My fbs was 120 this morning.
Glad it went well, keep us posted!

07-01-2014, 10:32 AM
moonkissed, hoping since the doctor didn't say anything about your A1c the numbers aren't bad :crossed:

Shannon, I'm sorry. :hug:

Thanks Rennie....so disappointed.

moonkissed now I'm dying to know about your A1c! Just FYI, everyone is low on Vit D....seriously, I promise....don't feel like you did anything wrong. Before I left my job we were looking at gobs of study samples showing that. I bought the vitamin and never remember to take it, lol!

07-01-2014, 10:36 AM
July chat here