Depression and Weight Issues - How do u fight the depression?




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moonkissed
05-26-2014, 05:34 PM
I keep falling apart. I will pick myself up gather all the motivation & inspiration in the world. I make a plan. Everything is great. I feel 100% confident that my mind is in this.

And then something happens, a wrench is thrown into my plans. I get stressed, upset. Depression & my anxiety screams and yells at me and swallows me whole.

I had lost some weight was so feeling great and then I took a bunch of steps backwards and gained 7 lbs.

I can't keep yo-yoing, bouncing around 215-200lbs. I lose some, gain it back.

How do I keep focused and stay motivated when my mind is working against me, feeding me evil/hateful thoughts and all I wanna do is lay in bed, cry & stuff my face?


souvenirdarling
05-26-2014, 06:56 PM
I'm overweight because of anxiety and depression. Take care of your heart first, the weight will come off on it's own. our weight issues are a symptom of a bigger problem. Dieting often become an obsession which makes it worse.

Time with a therapist/counselor is essential. It is totally worth the money. There are many low-income options. It's the best way for us to take care of ourselves and be better to those around us.

Pattience
05-28-2014, 05:35 AM
Well we don't know much about what you are dealing with so my info is very general.

Take an approach to weight loss that is quite easy. I would suggest studying the books of Dr Amanda Sainsbury-Salis: The don't' go hungry diet and Don't go Hungry for life. I'm just reading the second one now.

Although i am not following her approach to the letter, there is so much in it that is useful and practical for whatever you are doing and it could easily change your approach in the long term.

Dr Amanda is not your typical diet doctor. She's a diet scientist and has good credentials. She conducts legitimate research into the subject of obesity and weightless through highly credible australian universities. She's not one of these people who are doing it for the money. For her its personal. She also has her own history of weight.

So i struggle with depression too and i know how it undermines your bets intentions. you need to find every avenue of support you can access. therapy, forums, a helpful doctor and so on. And tackle all your real life issues.

With mindfulness meditation a la the buddhists you can learn to down play the setbacks and take a lot of things a bit seriously so you are less troubled by them.

For someone like you who's dealing with lots of stuff, you just have to take it steady and not expect to be gung ho and on project all the time. Just take things a day at a time. Take each moment as it comes. Forgive yourself for your setbacks and don't compound your problems by self punishing thoughts.

And above all, be patient. Just take little steps to improving the way you eat, the lifestyle you lead and your activity levels. Get plenty of sleep at night.

Take care.


flower123
07-09-2014, 02:07 AM
For me personally, I go outside. Try to ground into my body. I smile when I am out. Doing that brings a lot of smiles back to me. I try to be happy. Be in recognition of the song of the birds. The smell and colors of the flowers. Stay engaged as much as possible. Often it is not easy or even attainable in the moment. But this is what helps me.

Not all people who are depressed can do this. Many expereince depression that is extreme. What works for me does not work for everyone. For some, it is so much more severe and intense.

hannahbeanies
07-09-2014, 06:34 PM
Loving myself and having compassion for my imperfect self has helped with the depression. Also, I try to make it a point to leave the house for the a while. That usually elevates my mood.

kml420
07-11-2014, 06:47 PM
I am dealing with anxiety issues as well. One moment I'm doing very well and shortly after I start getting evil thoughts. I surf web and try to find motivational stuffs. I don't know what else to do.

tinneranne2
07-27-2014, 05:31 AM
I know this seems silly, but I have it posted at my desk at work. It helps. http://funnyinternetmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/When-You-Feel-Sad-Just-Remember-There-Are-Billions-Of-Cells-in-Your-Body-That-Care-About-You.jpg

seagirl
07-27-2014, 09:15 AM
I manage it with medication, foremost.

I also stopped making some grand plan about losing weight and changed it to one day at a time, one good choice at a time, one meal at a time. I have a fit bit so I can see where I am in terms of getting to my 10,000 steps a day. I know that if I get those steps I will be healthier, my mood will be better and I will be out of the house for over an hour which gets me away from food.

Before I was taking medication for my depression I found it very difficult to stick to any kind of regular diet or exercise regimen. I didn't care about anything due to my depression, so I didn't care about my diet or exercise (except for some fleeting moments of the fog lifting when I'd make grand plans, as you do, before the wave pulled me back under.)

Seek treatment for your depression. It will help with everything.

flower123
07-28-2014, 03:38 AM
I know this seems silly, but I have it posted at my desk at work. It helps. http://funnyinternetmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/When-You-Feel-Sad-Just-Remember-There-Are-Billions-Of-Cells-in-Your-Body-That-Care-About-You.jpg
Thats just plain lovely. thanks for posting it

Chelainabear
07-29-2014, 01:15 AM
These are all great suggestions, and I hope you find something that works for you.

I think it's a good idea to explore activities/hobbies and figure out a. what you like and b. what is healthy. When you can find things that fall in both of those groups, you might just find what you need. For me, it's dancing and tea.

Self care is about more than exercising and eating your fruits and veggies. It's about taking care of yourself mentally, emotionally, spiritually (however that looks for you), and socially.

And just like the cells in your body, everyone here cares, and they want you to succeed <3

PatPat
07-29-2014, 05:58 AM
It took me meds, some time in the hospital and therapy before I finally felst strong and confident enough to get to the weight problem. For losing weight I also use some tips I have learned for the rest of my problems there, like:

- if you feel you can't do this now just start and try, you might find out you CAN
- go one step after the other, dont do/change everything at once
- try to find what works for YOU, not what works for others
- be nice to yourself, and positive about yourself
- be positive about what you do (like dont imagine how hard it will be to clean up, imagine how nice it will be after)

etc...

BestDaysAhead
09-01-2014, 02:51 AM
I know this seems silly, but I have it posted at my desk at work. It helps.

This is a good way of looking at it

IanG
09-01-2014, 08:02 PM
Eat fish.

There are studies that say it helps.

It really helps my anxiety. I can wake depressed, eat fish for breakfast and the world is good again.

That, and exercise which either chases away my demons or has me running away from them...not sure which.

flower123
09-01-2014, 08:24 PM
Eat fish.

There are studies that say it helps.

It really helps my anxiety. I can wake depressed, eat fish for breakfast and the world is good again.

That, and exercise which either chases away my demons or has me running away from them...not sure which.
Ian I have heard that with exercise the "demons" as you call them, actually do leave. Its like the exercise clears out the body. I believe it can work.
Amazing that your body reacts so positivily to the omega-3 oils. There is MD/Psychiatrist associated with Harvard who did a whole study on this. He ended up marketing omega 3 oils, at a high price of course, to treat depressive disorders. I think for some it can be a life saver.

IanG
09-01-2014, 09:28 PM
Thanks flower123. On exercise, the vigorous stuff really does work. If I go for a long, fast run I feel so close to death that life's other problems take a very insignificant second!

Fish is weirder. I do not take fish oil (often) but I do eat a lot of fish and far more than is recommended. Guidelines are to eat fish/seafood twice a week. I eat six portions....a day!

I'll live by the fish or die by it. But so far I am willing to take my chances. It has had some amazing effects on my mental and physical well-being.

(sorry too many death statements in one post!)

fool4fotos
09-01-2014, 10:42 PM
I 100% agree with all the responses I'm seeing. Allowing yourself to care about your needs/wants/hurts is essential, but also taking into consideration that eating healthy and exercising is part of our "needs" is just as important.

It also took 3 yrs of therapy and a combo of meds to help me get my head straight and I still have moments that I obsess on negative, they just don't last as long as they used to. I heavily lean on exercising and focusing on my health (both physical and mental) when these moments tend to creep in.

Most important is to not give up. Reach out and do what you have to for you. Only you knows what it is that you need and there is no shame in needing help to get there.

I wish nothing but and am sending positive vibes to you. It's not easy, but it is worth the effort to care for ourselves :hug:

vwdeano
09-08-2014, 08:38 AM
Hmmm, I'll offer something that works for ME, but seems awfully simple... Music. I lean towards old, easy-listening kind of stuff. I'm NOT that old, but when I've had a particularly bad day, I can't get enough Perry Como, Dean Martin, etc. Seems to harken back to an easier time.

YMMV, but if you've got some music that brings back fond memories, it might be just the ticket for those bad days.

Dean

aryastark
09-08-2014, 08:53 AM
Keeping as much to a routine as possible, eating well and exercise work for me. I've recently started mindfulness meditation and yoga and they are really helpful, mindfulness in particular helps me see the signs that my mood is slipping so I can take action sooner. I also find its important to be kind to yourself, do something just for you, read a book, watch a movie.

VilimovskyM
10-21-2014, 01:30 PM
I think all the people above gave some great insights and advice on how to fight depression. It is a very debilitating disease and proper medical treatment must be followed.

As far as my way of dealing with depression is concerned I just try to do something I like, e.g. playing music, going out with my dog or see some friends.

It is essential not to be alone and talk and communicate with your friends or family about your feelings. This way the depression will become manageable.

GlamourGirl827
10-22-2014, 03:26 PM
I've struggled with depression on and off over the years. For me, running regularly and eating clean has always had a dramatic effect on my mood. Now I don't believe I ever had long term severely crippling depression. So I'm not saying that this is a cure all for everyone. I tried meds at times, but I didn't like being on meds. So I decided to try sticking with regular exercise, and I mean really vigorous, not just strolls in the park; and a very clean diet. I figured if that didn't help, I would revisit meds. But it did help. It basically lets me feel happy like normal. I do still struggle during the winter (SAD), but so far I can manage.

I can feel a drop in my mood and motivation when I haven't run in about 2-3 days. I haven't run since Friday because I have had a horrible chest cold, and I noticed by Monday feeling blue. Actually one HUGE sign is being on here and this stupid computer too much. Seriously the more down I get the more I sit here, the less I do stuff around the house or head out unless I have too.

I used to think my weight loss hinged on my diet and while it does in the calorie sense, I found that exercise, or in my case running is the key. That keeps me energetic, motivated, positive and focused. Once that goes (like I'm sick or injured) I start over eating and getting discouraged and not doing anything. I become this useless blob.

So now when I'm not sick, I make sure I stay committed to running, the way someone would take a pill everyday. If I miss it, it can be problematic.

missteresa
10-28-2014, 10:37 PM
i started saving funny pictures and memes to a folder then made a facebook album called bad mood fix.

whenever i feel like absolute **** i look at it. :dizzy:

i also have a playlist on youtube of cute animal videos and strange things found in nature, like fire tornadoes.

flower123
11-05-2014, 02:49 AM
lately I have been watching all three youtube videos of Marcel the shell. They really make me smile. Over and over. Cannot stop watching them

faiora
11-10-2014, 03:42 PM
I have heard that with exercise the "demons" as you call them, actually do leave. Its like the exercise clears out the body. I believe it can work.

When I was depressed (well, one of the times I was depressed) I hiked every single day (sometimes twice a day) up a pretty strenuous hiking trail next to my house. I didn't do it for health (although I did think of it as healthy, and I was making an effort to not do unhealthy things). I did it because it was something mindless, and sometimes it made me feel something (usually when the air was cold enough to burn my lungs).

I don't know what "levels" of depression there are, or where I fell on the spectrum, but I was at a non-functioning level in at least some ways. I would sit in front of my computer screen for literally hours, staring at my homework assignments but unable to work on them. I didn't care what I ate - I think I ate canned beans for almost every single meal I had. Eating was actually a chore for me during that time. I had some (relatively mild) psychological breaks as well - hearing, smelling, and seeing things that weren't there. Things were not good in my life.

I don't know if the level/type of depression makes any difference as to whether exercise is helpful or not. But exercise didn't have any kind of immediate physical effect for me. I was still depressed. I was just a hiker and depressed.

I'm not sure exercise is of any help, short-term, for someone who is clinically depressed.

HOWEVER, I do think it is of long-term help, because like so many people have said here, taking care of yourself (which means eating right and being active) is necessary to health. And if you're not healthy, it will be much more difficult to get better. You want at least some of your body chemistry to be working properly, so that when your system slowly adjusts and your depression begins to subside, it's supported on all sides.

But if I'm any indication, telling a depressed person that exercise is healthy and helpful is... not helpful. It's tough. But my experience is that you have to tough it out, and find ways to do the things that feel right - like talking to someone 1-on-1, and letting yourself stare at the screen full of homework instead of saying 'screw it' and playing games instead.

Just remember what's important, then keep those things in mind so you don't get lost. Someday they'll be easier again. I promise.

flower123
11-10-2014, 04:26 PM
When I was depressed (well, one of the times I was depressed) I hiked every single day (sometimes twice a day) up a pretty strenuous hiking trail next to my house. I didn't do it for health (although I did think of it as healthy, and I was making an effort to not do unhealthy things). I did it because it was something mindless, and sometimes it made me feel something (usually when the air was cold enough to burn my lungs).

I don't know what "levels" of depression there are, or where I fell on the spectrum, but I was at a non-functioning level in at least some ways. I would sit in front of my computer screen for literally hours, staring at my homework assignments but unable to work on them. I didn't care what I ate - I think I ate canned beans for almost every single meal I had. Eating was actually a chore for me during that time. I had some (relatively mild) psychological breaks as well - hearing, smelling, and seeing things that weren't there. Things were not good in my life.

I don't know if the level/type of depression makes any difference as to whether exercise is helpful or not. But exercise didn't have any kind of immediate physical effect for me. I was still depressed. I was just a hiker and depressed.

I'm not sure exercise is of any help, short-term, for someone who is clinically depressed.

HOWEVER, I do think it is of long-term help, because like so many people have said here, taking care of yourself (which means eating right and being active) is necessary to health. And if you're not healthy, it will be much more difficult to get better. You want at least some of your body chemistry to be working properly, so that when your system slowly adjusts and your depression begins to subside, it's supported on all sides.

But if I'm any indication, telling a depressed person that exercise is healthy and helpful is... not helpful. It's tough. But my experience is that you have to tough it out, and find ways to do the things that feel right - like talking to someone 1-on-1, and letting yourself stare at the screen full of homework instead of saying 'screw it' and playing games instead.

Just remember what's important, then keep those things in mind so you don't get lost. Someday they'll be easier again. I promise.

sorry. I do agree with you. not all things work for all people. Its different things for different people. you are right.

faiora
11-10-2014, 04:39 PM
sorry. I do agree with you. not all things work for all people. Its different things for different people. you are right.

Oh, I didn't mean to say you were giving bad advice or anything.
All you said was you believe it could work, after all. :)

I just think there are some people - presumably people who either haven't suffered from depression, or did have depression but sort of lucked their way out of it (which, granted, is kind of how I felt mine ended) - who tout diet and exercise as being a "cure."

I just don't think it's a cure at all. It certainly helps to take care of yourself, because you want your body to be in a good state. But the same is true of any illness.

You want to take care of yourself so your body can fight the flu, or an infection, or heal a broken bone for instance. But that doesn't mean taking care of yourself is the thing that beat the infection. The antibiotics probably beat it, and you helped by keeping your body in decent shape, so as not to worsen the problem.

With depression, it's easy for people to say "oh just get over it" or "oh you just have to take care of yourself" or even "oh you must have done something to make yourself that way." And it's simply not that easy.

Anyway. You're fine. I wasn't addressing concerns with anything you said... just trying to provide my alternate viewpoint, re: why exercise isn't the fix it's made out to be.

faiora
11-10-2014, 04:51 PM
How do I keep focused and stay motivated when my mind is working against me, feeding me evil/hateful thoughts and all I wanna do is lay in bed, cry & stuff my face?

Sorry I think I kind of hijacked your thread, responding to comments instead of to you.

I don't think "focused" and "motivated" are necessarily the right things to strive for if you're feeling depressed. For me, that was an impossible goal when I was having a hard enough time deciding if it was worth it to get up and pee.

I think something to try might be to be okay with the way things are, and the monotony that can go along with that, if that's what it comes down to (although perhaps it's different for you).

For me, a good mindset for getting things done has been "sure, it doesn't matter if I do this, but if it really doesn't matter, I might as well do it."

As for food, I now like to think "I know I'm going to go back to feeling exactly the way I feel right now as soon as I stop eating pizza, so what's the point of eating pizza? It's not like I can keep it up all day" (and trust me, you can't eat pizza all day without stopping. I know this from experience).

That's not to say I always took my own advice, or that it was easy. I'm not sure whether it helped my health or not, either. But it did help me complete monotonous and unthinking tasks, like tidying/cleaning, exercising, and eating (which I had different issues with while depressed).

sally007
12-15-2014, 07:45 PM
Unfortunately itís a vicious circle. Iím upset because I canít lose any weight and I donít lose weight because Iím upset so I find comfort in food. Some days are good but the off days are pretty bad. I know itís all in my head and I have full control over my thoughts but I end up sabotaging myself.

Terra1984
12-20-2014, 02:34 PM
I take fish oil every day, I was told to take it to lower my cholesterol and it worked so I've just kept taking it so keep my cholesterol lowered. Even though I guess I could always try to not take it for a week and see what happens that will tell me if I need to take them for life or not. If I do have to take them for life Its okay I've gotten use to taking them.

I'm also on meds for depression.