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Ruthxxx
04-13-2014, 04:21 PM
Time for a new thread!


Maile
04-14-2014, 08:55 AM
Thanks. Happy Monday everyone. I made safron cauliflower rice and it was amazing!

JLUS
04-14-2014, 12:55 PM
LOVE that cauliflower rice!! Mmmmmm!!

I also make Curried Cauliflower Soup (great in winter or summer):
cook cauliflower until super soft; put in blender with a bit of almond milk, coconut extract, curry powder, salt, pepper and a bit of Splenda (adjust all spices to taste - I actually add a little cayenne too as I like it spicy!). Blend and add additional almond milk to achieve desired thickness or thinness (I like mine on the thick side for a lush and creamy comfort-food style!) Heat and eat!


ecdcslim
04-14-2014, 01:56 PM
Happy Monday all! I have started to use my Fitbit now to track my food - it takes some getting use to but it's comprehensive enough that I'm finding it really helps keep me honest - and it's on my iPhone so no excuse not to track! What's interesting though is that it's tracking all my carbs in veggies so even my low carb/high fat meal (salads with dry tuna/HB egg, parmesan cheese added to broccoli, arugula, cucumbers, raw mushrooms, onions and EVOO) are showing up more carbs than fats, eek! My coach was like, ah, don't worry about that (umm, really?) So I'm wondering how the heck you track that? She also told me that chewing gum, even sugar free, starts the pancreas up and it releases insulin which makes your store fat??? Any body know anything about these subjects so I can get educated? Thanks.

eandc2006
04-14-2014, 03:37 PM
Hey all. Been slammed the past week with a variety of things work and home related so I haven't been on much. How is everyone?

I have not tried cauliflower rice but it sounds wonderful. I love roasted cauliflower. One of my favs!

Coming down with a heck of a cold for the second time in a month but it seems this one is worse than the first round. Looks like I may be spending some time in bed tomorrow and when I get off work tonight.

ecdcslim I chew gum occasionally and use Spry which is one of the approved gums in phase 1. Haven't noticed any problems with using. Also, I will have an occasional piece of bubble gum and it hasn't been a problem either but it is rare so I am not sure I have much to offer in terms of advice.

I have never counted calories, etc. in maintenance so I can't comment on that either. I just do phase 3bfasts, and phase 1 lunches and dinners for the most part, with the exception of fun meals here and there.

I will say that everyone seems to find a rhythm after while and what works for some does not work for others. Don't be afraid to try things and experiment.

Hoping you all are well and having a great Monday!

dak1lls
04-14-2014, 04:20 PM
LOVE that cauliflower rice!! Mmmmmm!!

I also make Curried Cauliflower Soup (great in winter or summer):
cook cauliflower until super soft; put in blender with a bit of almond milk, coconut extract, curry powder, salt, pepper and a bit of Splenda (adjust all spices to taste - I actually add a little cayenne too as I like it spicy!). Blend and add additional almond milk to achieve desired thickness or thinness (I like mine on the thick side for a lush and creamy comfort-food style!) Heat and eat!

JLUS: I was never big on spicy food but I LOVE it now! I think I am really tasting my food now because I'm not eating a bunch of processed garbage anymore. I also love almond milk! I use it on my cereal and many of my paleo recipes call for it. It is so good on KIND granola.

I find I like making all my own spice mixtures now, as I really don't like to use much that is premixed (fearing preservatives, etc.) I never thought I would have giant containers of chili powder, cumin, cayenne pepper, red pepper flakes, etc. in my cupboard. lol.

JLUS
04-14-2014, 05:30 PM
I am a big spice lover and even more these days since I rely so little on processed foods that are over salted and over fatted! Spices make everything just a little better... Even chocolate!!!

vachinyc
04-14-2014, 07:04 PM
LOVE that cauliflower rice!! Mmmmmm!!

I also make Curried Cauliflower Soup (great in winter or summer):
cook cauliflower until super soft; put in blender with a bit of almond milk, coconut extract, curry powder, salt, pepper and a bit of Splenda (adjust all spices to taste - I actually add a little cayenne too as I like it spicy!). Blend and add additional almond milk to achieve desired thickness or thinness (I like mine on the thick side for a lush and creamy comfort-food style!) Heat and eat!

This sounds delish! Thanks for sharing... What type of almond milk do you use? I haven't tried almond milk yet.

Today was a p1 day for me after some fun meals this weekend. It wasn't all that hard, feels still very 'normal' but I was hungrier than I remember being on p1. (Which makes sense) All in all, very do-able. Yay maintenance!

And it was beautiful so I've been getting in my walks. Sadly I heard the words "conversational snow" on the weather forecast for Wednesday. What?!?

Happy Monday maintainers.

canadjineh
04-14-2014, 07:11 PM
Happy Monday all! I have started to use my Fitbit now to track my food - it takes some getting use to but it's comprehensive enough that I'm finding it really helps keep me honest - and it's on my iPhone so no excuse not to track! What's interesting though is that it's tracking all my carbs in veggies so even my low carb/high fat meal (salads with dry tuna/HB egg, parmesan cheese added to broccoli, arugula, cucumbers, raw mushrooms, onions and EVOO) are showing up more carbs than fats, eek! My coach was like, ah, don't worry about that (umm, really?) So I'm wondering how the heck you track that? She also told me that chewing gum, even sugar free, starts the pancreas up and it releases insulin which makes your store fat??? Any body know anything about these subjects so I can get educated? Thanks.

Hi ecdc: I don't worry about the low carb higher fat meals either - it's just too difficult to get the ratio of 1:3 carb:fat grams - I aim for at least 1:1 if not 1:2 but that takes a lot of avocado & full fat cheese, lol. Seems to be working fine for me, I've been maintaining at 21% bf and 131-3 lbs for 6 weeks or so. Those are pretty low carb veg you are using for lunch so I doubt you will have a problem. I track on MyFitnessPal and do calories (just for my info) and carb, fat, protein, fibre and sugar grams.
My carb grams are quite high compared to a lot of IP maintainers but I have never been insulin resistant and haven't had a prob with veggie & fruit carbs. My biggie (how I gained 31 lbs over 4 years) was lack of exercise combined with tortilla chips with lots of cheese at night. Not goin' there anymore! A bag of Old Dutch or Tostitos Blue Corn tortilla chips lasts my hubby & I a week and a half now. Used to be done in one night.
Liana:D

JLUS
04-14-2014, 10:01 PM
This sounds delish! Thanks for sharing... What type of almond milk do you use? I haven't tried almond milk yet.

Happy Monday maintainers.

I have been using Blue Diamond Unsweetened plain or vanilla. I like that they sell small containers because I don't normally use a lot at a time so it keeps long enough for the small amounts I use (coffee, cereal occasionally, etc)

I am doing a "quick" 6 week P1 right now to get off a few more lbs before summer so no almond milk right now! Last summer I was P1 and this summer I want to be able to add some fresh fruit, so hoping for a 5-10 lb loss before I stop and maintain again.

vachinyc
04-15-2014, 07:01 AM
I have been using Blue Diamond Unsweetened plain or vanilla. I like that they sell small containers because I don't normally use a lot at a time so it keeps long enough for the small amounts I use (coffee, cereal occasionally, etc)

I am doing a "quick" 6 week P1 right now to get off a few more lbs before summer so no almond milk right now! Last summer I was P1 and this summer I want to be able to add some fresh fruit, so hoping for a 5-10 lb loss before I stop and maintain again.

Thanks Laurie. I thought the same about those containers of almond milk... A lot if I don't like it. I'll look for the smaller ones.

Good luck with your P1. I didn't know I cared about fruit so much but adding them in for phase 3 was great :)

Maile
04-15-2014, 08:30 AM
Laurie: Thanks for that soup recipe. It looks excellent. I am a huge fan of spices and have a cupboard full of them. That is a good idea to P1 and get low enough to enjoy summer. I love fresh strawberries and am waiting for them.

Vachinyc: Snow again? We had a 29 degree morning and it was cold.Good job on getting those walks in. P1 is an amazing tool for maintenance.

Dakills: My love of spicy foods has also increased. I also make my own spice mixtures as I do not like the added salt in even spices like curry.

Ecdslim: I do not track calories or carbs, If the carbs are from vegetables, they should be healthy. Hope you find what works for you. I do not chew gum.

Eandc: You eat like I do..lots of P3 breakfasts and p1 lunches and dinners..with occasional added foods.


New discovery: you can make coconut shrimp low carb low fat. Dip the shrimp in coconut flour, then in egg beaters then, in coconut flakes. Bake until toasty and done.

My son is here and is a gourmet cook who is experimenting with lots of low carb cooking. Too fun.

dak1lls
04-15-2014, 08:47 AM
Laurie: Thanks for that soup recipe. It looks excellent. I am a huge fan of spices and have a cupboard full of them. That is a good idea to P1 and get low enough to enjoy summer. I love fresh strawberries and am waiting for them.

Vachinyc: Snow again? We had a 29 degree morning and it was cold.Good job on getting those walks in. P1 is an amazing tool for maintenance.

Dakills: My love of spicy foods has also increased. I also make my own spice mixtures as I do not like the added salt in even spices like curry.

Ecdslim: I do not track calories or carbs, If the carbs are from vegetables, they should be healthy. Hope you find what works for you. I do not chew gum.

Eandc: You eat like I do..lots of P3 breakfasts and p1 lunches and dinners..with occasional added foods.


New discovery: you can make coconut shrimp low carb low fat. Dip the shrimp in coconut flour, then in egg beaters then, in coconut flakes. Bake until toasty and done.

My son is here and is a gourmet cook who is experimenting with lots of low carb cooking. Too fun.

Oh yummy! I must try the coconut shrimp. That sounds so good.

eandc2006
04-17-2014, 11:19 AM
Laurie: Thanks for that soup recipe. It looks excellent. I am a huge fan of spices and have a cupboard full of them. That is a good idea to P1 and get low enough to enjoy summer. I love fresh strawberries and am waiting for them.

Vachinyc: Snow again? We had a 29 degree morning and it was cold.Good job on getting those walks in. P1 is an amazing tool for maintenance.

Dakills: My love of spicy foods has also increased. I also make my own spice mixtures as I do not like the added salt in even spices like curry.

Ecdslim: I do not track calories or carbs, If the carbs are from vegetables, they should be healthy. Hope you find what works for you. I do not chew gum.

Eandc: You eat like I do..lots of P3 breakfasts and p1 lunches and dinners..with occasional added foods.


New discovery: you can make coconut shrimp low carb low fat. Dip the shrimp in coconut flour, then in egg beaters then, in coconut flakes. Bake until toasty and done.

My son is here and is a gourmet cook who is experimenting with lots of low carb cooking. Too fun.

So nice to have your son visiting and creating fun recipes together. I wish I had a gourmet cook in my family! Enjoy your time with him and all the delish, healthy foods!

Maile
04-18-2014, 08:01 AM
Thanks for your support. Yes, it is fun to have someone who loves to cook and try new recipes. I am learning from him..Of course, I am a follow the recipe type of person, and he is a no measure and make up the recipe type.

Have a great Easter everyone. I am going to try a Middle Eastern cauliflower coucous recipe.

I am right in the low end of my range and am happy with the scale.

I just read that if you keep it off for 5 years, only 27 percent of the people gain their weight back.

Here is a fairly good article..14 Habits of People who have healthy relationships with food.

I agree with most of them except the one about not eating with the scale in mind.

http://goo.gl/idxGEZ

Maile
04-19-2014, 08:43 AM
Here is an interesting blog by a woman who has maintained her 80 pound weight loss for 5 years. I like: no food can trigger me if I am feeling strong.

5 Surprises After 5 Years of Maintenance
Tuesday, March 11, 2014

What can I say about 5 years of maintaining an 80 pound weight loss after more than 5 decades of being overweight or obese? I've already said so much. In "Please Read This Blog If You've Gained Back Weight Before," I credit Super Foods, increased cardio, and most importantly the mindset to "quit quitting" as my keys to maintenance success.


In "How I Found My Inner Jock" I tell about my foray into running after years of gradually evolving from couch potato status. Running has helped me. I love it. But I know that successful maintenance is probably 80% food and 20% activity. During time of injury or limited activity for any reason, I can still maintain by focusing on food. I feel best, though, if I get in my activity!!

What can I add at this 5 year milestone? Well, I am really surprised about a lot of things.

1. First surprise: I have kept off 80 pounds. Honestly, I did not think I could do it. And that lack of confidence scared me. I read that having confidence in your ability to maintain is important to success. I knew I wasn't confident, so I worked to try to build confidence. Blogging about small successes, acknowledging and savoring compliments from friends and celebrating minor victories all helped me gain confidence.

2. Second surprise: It still isn't easy. It takes a daily (or more often) commitment. And the hardest day to make that commitment is when I messed up the day before. I know those "getting back on track" days are critical to success. I've had an hour or maybe two in the past 5 years where I gave up. But I have not had a whole day. I grab some water, do some exercise, and declare myself back to healthy living NOW.

3. Third surprise: If I honestly look at how much time I spend struggling with food issues, it is a very small percentage of my life. Given that it isn't easy, and that I'm tempted to overeat every week (actually on most days), I could envision myself obsessed with food and food thoughts. That isn't so. Usually I have a small period of time after supper when it is hard not to eat even though I know I don't need more food. That time is harder when I'm tired but can't go to bed yet or when I haven't been able to exercise. Thinking about what I really, really want helps at those times.

4. Fourth surprise: I don't have to endure much hunger. Through the Beck Diet Solution I learned that I can endure hunger. Hunger is not an emergency. However, maintenance is easier for me if I'm not hungry. If I make wise choices and eat small meals often, I have very little actual hunger. If I go to a ball park and have a hot dog on a white bun or go to a birthday party and choose to have a piece of cake I will be hungry and want to go over my calorie limits. I know it is my choice. Do I want to eat a convenience food or enjoy a treat? If so, am I willing to endure a bit of hunger?

5. Fifth surprise: I have not nailed down my healthy routines. I still don't have menu plans that I have been meaning to develop now for years. Hubby still does the grocery shopping and our kitchen is filled with whatever is on special. He is great about always getting lots of fruits and veggies. And I always have tuna in water, fat free cottage cheese, frozen plain fish like cod and tilapia, 70 calorie Boca Burgers and other low calorie protein sources so I can choose to eat something other than what he wants. I've definitely learned to be flexible. I can make my calories balance out even if a last minute decision to eat out is thrown at me. I've learned that no food can trigger me to eat if I'm feeling strong and healthy and determined. I am stronger than peanut butter. I am stronger than candy bars. I am stronger than cake. I am stronger than any food.

And it is no surprise that the support I've gotten from my friends has been a major factor in my success! Life is good. Life is precious. And to be able to live life fit is a tremendous blessing to be valued and prized!!

stephascope
04-19-2014, 10:25 AM
Are you maintainers still taking supplements? I bought some Kirkland omega 3's from Costco but would like your input on a good quality multi vitamin that I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for through IP.

Maile
04-21-2014, 08:28 AM
I just bought the Kirkland Women't multi. I do not use IP vitamins anymore.

Hope you find something that works for you. The IP are expensive, but they helped me when I was losing.

knm
04-21-2014, 12:32 PM
Hi Everyone,
I've been in maintenance since early March, and I'm not doing so well. I'm up about 8 lbs. I realize some of it could be the glycogen storage and I've been working out tons lately, so some could be muscle, but my clothes are starting to get tight again and I constantly feel bloated.
I've gone to a naturopath and had her do an IgG test where they test you for any food intolerances you may have. I'm expecting to hear back from her anyday now on the results.
I haven't been following IP maintenance, my dietician told me to just focus on counting calories for now.
I'm really enjoying my workout classes, plus I've paid for them, so not ready to give them up and go back on a strict P1 diet, but I also wanna get rid of this weight before I let it get out of control again.
Sorry, not the greatest first Maintenance post for me! Just wanted to sort of introduce myself and let you all know where I'm at, as I'm hoping this will be my new go-to thread.
Again, sorry for the pity post!

eandc2006
04-21-2014, 01:28 PM
Hey kmn. Good to see you on here now. Congrats on getting to maintenance. I would say that maintaining is a learning process that oftentimes means gaining a losing a few pesky 5-7lbs here and there....well it has been for me anyways. Rather than panic, I have learned to take a deep breath, step back, and go back to what I know works which for me is phase 1.

Since you are exercising and don't want to stop, perhaps doing phase 2 or even phase 3 rigidly for a couple days to see what works. It really is a big experiment I think in finding out how our body responds, etc. Or perhaps do phase 1 but add extra protein.

Counting calories never helped me to loose weight so I haven't tried in to maintain. What I usually do is follow phase 3 bfasts everyday and phase 1 dinners and lunches for the most part. I do however, have several meals each week where I eat whatever I want.

I think it is wise though to definitely heed notice when clothing fits differently. You will be able to knock this out in no time. Cheering you on!

canadjineh
04-21-2014, 02:14 PM
Hi all: I am still taking supplements (I always have since I was young, for general health reasons). I've never taken IP ones since they couldn't guarantee gluten free. If you do have food sensitivities or diseases that are affected by foods you might want to make sure that your supplements are compatible. You can check with Consumer Digest (probably have to have an e-subscription or check at your public library) to find the highest quality controlled supplements for the price, as well.

knm: counting calories doesn't work long term... that's how many of us got where we were in the first place, losing weight and then putting it right back on again. Using the fat and carb separation of 'Maintenance' for your meals is vital. That's the whole trick to keeping insulin from sending the accompanying fats to storage.
I've been at maintenance for 7 weeks now without problems and generally don't even worry about eating in Phase 1-3 style EXCEPT after a 'Funday' when it is fairly strict phase 1 for one day. You can access some of my food diary on Maintenance What are you eating IPeeps thread. I don't generally have a high calorie diet - it works out to between 1600 and 2000 cal on MyFitnessPal but I don't watch that part of it - I generally look for tracking my ratio of carbs to fats at each meal. My clinic and coach suggested tracking on MFP and it helps A LOT!

You can get through this, just remember your fat carb ratios...

Liana :soap: - ok, I'm off my soap box now :D

knm
04-21-2014, 02:15 PM
Thanks eandc. You're right, I just need to figure out what works for me. Just frustrating cuz I'm trying to get back to a "normal" way of eating (including fruits and veggies that were no-nos on IP - carrots, avocados, etc) but I don't have the patience to try something for a few weeks and if it doesn't work I've lost that time which I could have been on IP.
I'm thinking trying to do P2 most days (using alternatives though) with the odd non-IP snack (greek yogurt with blueberries or carrots with hummus or a healthier "dip"). I realize that will keep me out of ketosis, but I'm okay with that since I never have enough energy to workout when I'm in ketosis.
I also need to up my water, I've been slacking on that lately.

65X65
04-21-2014, 02:15 PM
Hey kmn. Good to see you on here now. Congrats on getting to maintenance. I would say that maintaining is a learning process that oftentimes means gaining a losing a few pesky 5-7lbs here and there....well it has been for me anyways. Rather than panic, I have learned to take a deep breath, step back, and go back to what I know works which for me is phase 1.

Since you are exercising and don't want to stop, perhaps doing phase 2 or even phase 3 rigidly for a couple days to see what works. It really is a big experiment I think in finding out how our body responds, etc. Or perhaps do phase 1 but add extra protein.

Counting calories never helped me to lose weight so I haven't tried in to maintain. What I usually do is follow phase 3 bfasts everyday and phase 1 dinners and lunches for the most part. I do however, have several meals each week where I eat whatever I want.

I think it is wise though to definitely heed notice when clothing fits differently. You will be able to knock this out in no time. Cheering you on!

I find this full of insight...and it definitely IS trial and error... ! We are ultimately the best "knowers" of our own body..


ie-
Carb sensitivity, and understanding it is about what we eat...
Not just counting calories, because most of us found out prior to IP, that is a flawed system (calorie or points counting) if your metabolic mechanism is flawed!! Deep inside...we all really do know our own truth...and the IP diet is not going to fix broken. Instead, fixing your approach to dealing with a metabolism that is "unique", is probably a better process and one you can control.

It just takes being brutally honest with yourself.

knm
04-21-2014, 02:49 PM
Hi all: I am still taking supplements (I always have since I was young, for general health reasons). I've never taken IP ones since they couldn't guarantee gluten free. If you do have food sensitivities or diseases that are affected by foods you might want to make sure that your supplements are compatible. You can check with Consumer Digest (probably have to have an e-subscription or check at your public library) to find the highest quality controlled supplements for the price, as well.

knm: counting calories doesn't work long term... that's how many of us got where we were in the first place, losing weight and then putting it right back on again. Using the fat and carb separation of 'Maintenance' for your meals is vital. That's the whole trick to keeping insulin from sending the accompanying fats to storage.
I've been at maintenance for 7 weeks now without problems and generally don't even worry about eating in Phase 1-3 style EXCEPT after a 'Funday' when it is fairly strict phase 1 for one day. You can access some of my food diary on Maintenance What are you eating IPeeps thread. I don't generally have a high calorie diet - it works out to between 1600 and 2000 cal on MyFitnessPal but I don't watch that part of it - I generally look for tracking my ratio of carbs to fats at each meal. My clinic and coach suggested tracking on MFP and it helps A LOT!

You can get through this, just remember your fat carb ratios...

Liana :soap: - ok, I'm off my soap box now :D


Thanks for the advice! Based on myfitnesspal, how many grams of carbs and fat and protein do you typically consume a day? Do you watch that?

canadjineh
04-21-2014, 03:13 PM
Thanks for the advice! Based on myfitnesspal, how many grams of carbs and fat and protein do you typically consume a day? Do you watch that?

Here's a day in my maintenance diary - just an example.

BREAKFAST Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fibre Sugar
Blue Diamond - Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk Updated, 8 oz 40 2 4 1 1 0
Craisins - Dried Cranberries, 1/6 of a cup 87 22 0 0 0 19
Nature's Path - Mesa Sunrise Gluten Free Cereal, 3/4 Cup 120 24 1 3 3 4
Raw Nuts - Filberts, 10 nuts (14 g) 88 2 9 2 1 1
Add Food Quick Tools 335 50 14 6 5 24

LUNCH
Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (Cdn) - Dill & Lemon, 1 can (85 g) 140 2 7 18 0 0
Udi's Gluten Free Products (Canada - Millet-Chia Bread, 2 slices 150 24 5 6 5 3
Kraft Cracker Barrel - Baby Swiss Cheese, 2 oz 220 0 18 14 0 0
Generic - Bell Peppers-mixed (Yellow, Orange, Red), 0.66 cup 12 3 0 0 1 1
Bick's - Hamburger Slices Pickle (Garlic), 9 slices (30g) 3 1 0 0 0 0
Add Food Quick Tools 525 30 30 38 6 4

DINNER
Generic - Buffalo, Ground 90% Lean, 6 oz 285 0 17 30 0 0
Bragg - Liquid Aminos - All Purpose Seasoning From Soy Protein, 2 tsp (2.5ml) 0 4 0 12 0 0
Sambal Oelek - Ground Chilli Paste, 2 tsp 60 0 0 0 0 2
Squash - Zucchini, includes skin, raw, 0.5 medium 16 3 0 1 1 2
Generic - Egg Large- Hardboiled, 0.5 egg 39 0 3 3 0 0
Irene's - Cheese & Onion Bread - gluten free, 0.5 slice 60 9 3 3 3 2
Mushrooms - Raw, 1 cup, pieces or slices 15 2 0 2 1 1
Green Onion - Green Onion Raw (Whole), 1.5 medium (15 g) 8 2 0 0 1 0
Generic - Organic Pine Nuts, 2 tbls 97 2 8 4 1 0
Lundberg - Organic Roasted Brown Rice Couscous, 45 g (Dry) 150 35 2 3 3 1
Add Food Quick Tools 730 57 33 58 10 8

SNACKS
Quaker Oatmeal - Rice Cakes- Tomato and Basil, 1 Cake 50 9 2 1 0 1
Generic - Egg Large- Hardboiled, 1 egg 78 1 5 6 0 1
Fresh is Best - Salsa - Medium, 15 ml 5 1 0 0 0 1
Fresh is Best Salsa & Company - Guacamole, 15 ml 18 1 2 0 0 1
Vegetable - Celery Stalk 7 -8" Long (Kym), 1 stalk 6 1 0 0 1 1
Add Food Quick Tools 157 13 9 7 1 5

Totals 1,747 150 86 109 22 41
Your Daily Goal 1,739 218 58 87 27 66
Remaining -8 68 -28 -22 5 25

This line "remaining" at the bottom means that according to MFP I am over by 8 calories, short on my carbs by 68g, over on my fats by 28g, over on protein by 22g, short on fibre by 5g and sugars by 25g.
HOWEVER, if you look at the food I ate I didn't starve or deny myself. AND my carb:fat ratio for lunch was 1:1 (ie lower carb) and for supper it was close to 2:1 (ie: lower fat). I find it too difficult to do a 1:3 carb/fat ratio unless I am eating loads of high fat dairy or lots of avocado, mayo and EVOO. Things are working well for me for the "carb poor" meal at equal ratios or if I can, 1:2 carb/fat

I watch the carbs/fats and the rest is simply for my info only. Not judging what to eat by the other macros.
Liana

canadjineh
04-21-2014, 03:41 PM
Here's today so far - you will notice my lower carb meal for lunch - planned because I have turkey breast out for dinner and fresh asparagus to accompany & maybe a baked potato with a fresh salsa to top (lower fat/higher carb)

BREAKFAST Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Sugar
Danone (Canada) - Oikos 0% Greek Yogurt, Plain, 0.495 cup (175g) 66 5 0 11 0 3 
Yoplait - Source Cherry Yogurt 0%, 100 g 35 5 0 4 0 4 
Nature's Path - Mesa Sunrise Gluten Free Cereal, 0.495 Cup 79 16 1 2 2 3 
Strawberries - Raw Strawberries (Fresh) 100 g, 100 g 32 8 0 1 2 5 
Add Food Quick Tools
212 34 1 18 4 15

LUNCH
Cottage cheese - Lowfat, 2% milkfat, 1 cup (not packed) 203 8 4 31 0 1 
Irene's - Cheese & Onion Bread - gluten free, 1 slice 120 18 5 6 5 3 
Lettuce - Red leaf, raw, 1.5 cup shredded 7 1 0 1 0 0 
Mclarens - Manzanilla Olives Stuffed W/Pimento Paste, 7 Olives (15g) 15 0 2 0 0 0 
Nuts - Raw Walnuts, 0.25 cup shelled (50 halves - 100g) 164 4 16 4 2 1 
Brianna's - True Blue Cheese Dressing, 2 tbsp 120 5 11 1 0 4 
Nuts - Macadamia nuts, raw, 1 oz (10-12 kernels) 203 4 21 2 2 1 
Add Food Quick Tools
832 40 59 45 9 10

MIDMORNING SNACK
Fresh is Best Salsa & Company - Guacamole, 15 ml 18 1 2 0 0 1 
General - Fresh Cilantro, Chopped, 0.0625 cup 0 0 0 0 0 0 
Generic - Egg Large- Hardboiled, 1 egg 78 1 5 6 0 1 
Green Onion - Green Onion Raw (Whole), 0.2 medium (15 g) 1 0 0 0 0 0 
Add Food Quick Tools
97 2 7 6 0 2

Totals 1,141 76 67 69 13 27
Your Daily Goal 1,590 199 53 80 25 60
Remaining 449 123 -14 11 12 33

Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Sugar

This leaves me a lot of carbs and a decent amount of calories and an easy to get amount of protein for dinner - I am going out for a power walk with a friend so there will be even more leeway for my afternoon snack & dinner. I will likely be over on calories just because of the higher fat lunch but no worries.

Liana

knm
04-21-2014, 05:29 PM
Thanks so much for your menus canadjineh!
I am going to try and focus on watching my carbs again as opposed to calories and just try to keep my carbs down. That's what worked for me on IP and I figure I must be carb sensitive if I can gain that easily even though most days my calories are well below 1400.
I just need to remember to fill up on protein and veggies, rather than on all the processed, convenient food I sometimes stray to.

canadjineh
04-21-2014, 06:16 PM
Thanks so much for your menus canadjineh!
I am going to try and focus on watching my carbs again as opposed to calories and just try to keep my carbs down. That's what worked for me on IP and I figure I must be carb sensitive if I can gain that easily even though most days my calories are well below 1400.
I just need to remember to fill up on protein and veggies, rather than on all the processed, convenient food I sometimes stray to.

That's the problem with processed, convenient food - they ALWAYS combine the higher carb with the higher fat - a recipe for cravings and fat storage, lol. But of course, they run a business and want to 'increase market share' which means that they want you to crave it and eat more... (insert scary sneaky laugh here :devil: :s: ) For me it isn't just about keeping the carbs down since some days I have quite high carbs for a meal - eg below:

Dinner
Bragg - Liquid Aminos - All Purpose Seasoning From Soy Protein, 3 tsp (2.5ml) 0 6 0 18 0 0 
Saporito - Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 2 tsp (10 ml) 80 0 9 0 0 0 
Lundberg - Organic Roasted Brown Rice Couscous, 90 g (Dry) 300 70 3 6 6 2 
Mannn's - Sugar Snap Peas, 1 cup/85g 35 6 0 2 2 3 
Onions - Raw, 0.2 medium (2-1/2" dia) 9 2 0 0 0 1 
Generic - Bell Peppers-mixed (Yellow, Orange, Red), 0.6 cup 11 3 0 0 1 1
Green Onion - Green Onion Raw (Whole), 2 medium (15 g) 10 2 0 1 1 1 
Huy Fong Foods - Chili Garlic Sauce , 5 g (1 tsp) 0 0 0 0 0 0 
Vegetable - Celery Stalk 7 -8" Long (Kym), 2 stalk 12 2 0 1 1 1 
M'lord - Hearts of Palm, 3/4 tasse 105 15 2 6 3 0 
Generic - Egg Large- Hardboiled, 2 egg 156 1 11 13 0 1 
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718 107 25 47 14 10

This was a 'Fried Rice' for dinner - veg was stir fried, eggs were scrambled, then rice 'couscous' was mixed in & fried in the non-stick pan - topped with Braggs (like soy sauce but gluten free) and Sriracha or chili garlic sauce. You'll notice the fat content was pretty low in comparison though.

Liana

knm
04-22-2014, 12:01 PM
That's the problem with processed, convenient food - they ALWAYS combine the higher carb with the higher fat - a recipe for cravings and fat storage, lol. But of course, they run a business and want to 'increase market share' which means that they want you to crave it and eat more... (insert scary sneaky laugh here :devil: :s: ) For me it isn't just about keeping the carbs down since some days I have quite high carbs for a meal - eg below:

Dinner
Bragg - Liquid Aminos - All Purpose Seasoning From Soy Protein, 3 tsp (2.5ml) 0 6 0 18 0 0 
Saporito - Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 2 tsp (10 ml) 80 0 9 0 0 0 
Lundberg - Organic Roasted Brown Rice Couscous, 90 g (Dry) 300 70 3 6 6 2 
Mannn's - Sugar Snap Peas, 1 cup/85g 35 6 0 2 2 3 
Onions - Raw, 0.2 medium (2-1/2" dia) 9 2 0 0 0 1 
Generic - Bell Peppers-mixed (Yellow, Orange, Red), 0.6 cup 11 3 0 0 1 1
Green Onion - Green Onion Raw (Whole), 2 medium (15 g) 10 2 0 1 1 1 
Huy Fong Foods - Chili Garlic Sauce , 5 g (1 tsp) 0 0 0 0 0 0 
Vegetable - Celery Stalk 7 -8" Long (Kym), 2 stalk 12 2 0 1 1 1 
M'lord - Hearts of Palm, 3/4 tasse 105 15 2 6 3 0 
Generic - Egg Large- Hardboiled, 2 egg 156 1 11 13 0 1 
Add Food Quick Tools
718 107 25 47 14 10

This was a 'Fried Rice' for dinner - veg was stir fried, eggs were scrambled, then rice 'couscous' was mixed in & fried in the non-stick pan - topped with Braggs (like soy sauce but gluten free) and Sriracha or chili garlic sauce. You'll notice the fat content was pretty low in comparison though.

Liana

You're exactly right, processed food is a recipe for disaster. I have a switch that flicks SO fast from having zero cravings to going hog wild.

I just need to focus on prepping healthy food ahead of time so I have no excuse to grab the convenient food that leads to those cravings.
I've got lots of fresh veggies at home after yesterday's grocery trip, so that should help!

I had a decent day yesterday, not IP approved but healthy and got in 120 oz of water, so feeling much better today. The scale didn't move, but it usually takes the scale two days to catch up with whatever I've eaten, plus with working out I need to remember to focus on the measuring tape vs the scale.

Hope everyone else is having a great, healthy day! Thanks for the pep talks and encouragement yesterday, I guess it was just one of those days... and didn't help that it was a Monday!

eandc2006
04-22-2014, 03:11 PM
knm...glad to hear you are feeling better today. I too seem to have "those days" on Mondays...wonder about the correlation.

Don't know if I mentioned this last week but I had a cold from H$LL on top of an ear infection. I have no skin under my nose from blowing so much. Finally on the mend and back on phase 1 for a couple days.

Was at 135lbs this morning which is top of goal (130 I feel best at). I am a week away from TOM and probably still retaining water like a camel from this darn cold. I figure I will do a week of really "clean" eating. Get to feeling energized and cleaned out a bit. I didn't really eat bad while sick...just had store bought chicken noodle packed with sodium...but I was in no shape to cook. Anyways, I hope you all are well. It's 82 degrees here in the mile high city and beautiful out. Plan on taking my doggies out for a long walk tonight.

Maile
04-23-2014, 08:24 AM
Eandc: I hope that cold gets better. Soups can be packed with sodium. You may be at the top of your range, but you are staying in your range. I would like 82 degree weather.

canadjineh
04-23-2014, 01:13 PM
eandc: hope the cold/ear infection is better and the walk outside in the fresh(?) air with the dogs helped. You'll lose the extra lbs now that you are moving around more and feeling more like food prep. :)

hope2781
04-23-2014, 01:48 PM
hello Maintainers,
I was advised to post my question here:
I read in few threads that you cannot completely get off the diet even if you are on maintenance phase. Do you still IP packets in maintenance?

Also I read that you could have Fun days and if you have a major slip up , you should do Phase 1 the next day or two. So for phase 1 during maintenance phase do you use IP packets ? or do alternative plan or just work out more to compensate the food you ate on your funday?
I was just curious on how you handle fundays.

JLUS
04-23-2014, 01:52 PM
hello Maintainers,
I was advised to post my question here:
I read in few threads that you cannot completely get off the diet even if you are on maintenance phase. Do you still IP packets in maintenance?

Also I read that you could have Fun days and if you have a major slip up , you should do Phase 1 the next day or two. So for phase 1 during maintenance phase do you use IP packets ? or do alternative plan or just work out more to compensate the food you ate on your funday?
I was just curious on how you handle fundays.

Hi Hope... I also just added a few additional comments in your other post that can give you a beginning idea... You will get lots of help here though!

drd1961
04-23-2014, 01:53 PM
I had a fun day on Saturday. Sunday I did P1 with packets. I have a bunch left over and some alternative stuff as well. Otherwise I do not use packets, but do use Quest bars as a snack a few times a week.

knm
04-23-2014, 02:03 PM
knm...glad to hear you are feeling better today. I too seem to have "those days" on Mondays...wonder about the correlation.

Don't know if I mentioned this last week but I had a cold from H$LL on top of an ear infection. I have no skin under my nose from blowing so much. Finally on the mend and back on phase 1 for a couple days.

Was at 135lbs this morning which is top of goal (130 I feel best at). I am a week away from TOM and probably still retaining water like a camel from this darn cold. I figure I will do a week of really "clean" eating. Get to feeling energized and cleaned out a bit. I didn't really eat bad while sick...just had store bought chicken noodle packed with sodium...but I was in no shape to cook. Anyways, I hope you all are well. It's 82 degrees here in the mile high city and beautiful out. Plan on taking my doggies out for a long walk tonight.

Glad you're feeling better eandc. And I'm starting to realize how important it is to weigh regularly so when you get to the top of your range you do something about it immediately, rather than waiting till your up 5 or 10 lbs.

I'm still up 7 from when I phased off, but would ideally like to be down 10-12 from where I'm at now. Been eating much better the last few days though and I can tell.

I'm gonna try and do P2-ish days Thursday-Sunday. Thursdays and Sundays are my days off from the gym, so no reason to add any extra protein those days. Friday and Saturday I'll see how I'm feeling, but trying to make plans and stay busy, so that if I snack it's because I'm hungry and need the energy, not because I'm just bored. I have 2 or 3 IP packets left over that I'll probably use up over this time.

Maile
04-24-2014, 08:27 AM
Hope..I commented on your thread. I started off using IP packets for P1 days and now just eat very low carb to get up pounds down. Lots of people do fun days and use P1 to work it off. I do not do fun days and indulge in a fun meal once in awhile. I generally just try to stay in my range and then work off any up pounds. Yes, I am eating very much like I did when I was losing except I have added more fats and spices.

Knm: You have a good plan for the week. I like the idea of not snacking when you are bored. I tend to think of food when I am tired!

stephascope
04-24-2014, 08:38 AM
I'm only in week 3 of maintenance. I've been using IP packets for my phase 1 days since I have a lot left over and still see my coach weekly for now. I think I need to change the "fun day" into a "fun meal". Doing the phase 1 day after a fun day was working beautifully at first but I put on a few lbs after this weekend and the phase 1 days didn't immediately correct my weight. I am only starting to slowly drop the weight after a few days of phase 3/4 eating. I think maintenance is different for everyone. It will take a bit of trial and error to figure it out!

drd1961
04-24-2014, 10:01 AM
I'm only in week 3 of maintenance. I've been using IP packets for my phase 1 days since I have a lot left over and still see my coach weekly for now. I think I need to change the "fun day" into a "fun meal". Doing the phase 1 day after a fun day was working beautifully at first but I put on a few lbs after this weekend and the phase 1 days didn't immediately correct my weight. I am only starting to slowly drop the weight after a few days of phase 3/4 eating. I think maintenance is different for everyone. It will take a bit of trial and error to figure it out!
One of the coaches at my clinic said that if you have to do more than one P1 day after your fun day, then your fun day was too fun and you should scale back. That makes sense to me. I usually do more of a fun meal, not the whole day.

eandc2006
04-24-2014, 10:54 AM
I agree with the fun day idea as does my coach. That is why I will do several fun meals throughout the week rather than one whole day of fun. My coach likes the 3 meals out of 21 each week can be fun or what you want within reason (not an entire pizza for example). I like this too and have found it gives me the flexibility I like...where I can go to dinner if I don't feel like cooking, etc.


It really is a total experiment discovering what works...what doesn't.

Feeling much better now Maile and Canadjineh. Have really been enjoying the weather lately and last night we got rain which was awesome. I slept like a baby.

dak1lls
04-24-2014, 11:48 AM
OK, so me and DH went to a Chicago concert the other night and ran into some good friends we haven't seen for a while. As a matter of fact, I think I was down 20lbs the last time we met. My friend exclaimed, "you're so skinny!" That made me feel so good. I still can't believe when people use the term skinny or tiny in association with me!

As we were chatting she asked if I could tell her how I lost the weight and before letting me answer she asked, "you're not starving yourself are you?" I told my husband, I don't know whether I should be flattered or insulted. I know she is just the nicest person and would never intentionally say something to be hurtful, but it got me thinking and I know I have opened my big mouth and said things I wished I could take back as soon as they were out. I also feel kind of bad that she would think I'd starve myself! I just said, "no, I eat really well."

I promised I would give her all the info she needs so she can evaluate whether she wants to try the diet. I am hoping she does and realizes how great it is, but I also want her to see that I really do eat! :dizzy:

canadjineh
04-24-2014, 03:02 PM
A few people have been discussing this - here's my way of doing it - I also choose a Fun Meal instead of a Funday, mainly because I like the way I am eating now and don't feel all that deprived. Besides on the day you are planning on doing the fun meal ie. out with friends for pizza & beer :jeno::cofdate::jeno:, or pub natchos, or wedding dinner with fruit cake (lol), etc do a Phase 1 breakfast & lunch. No big deal. My weight hasn't gone up or down by more than 2 lbs since I started maintenance so it seems to be working for me. I do have some IP Broccoli Cheddar soup packets, simply because I like them (hard to believe eh?) but I also like to use Vega protein powder for a vegan smoothie in Tropical Tango or Garden of Life Raw Vegan Protein powder in cacao kiss as a rich tasting chocolate smoothie. Sometimes I'll get some Curves bars in Yogourt Berry Bliss - a bit higher in calories but pretty decent carb ratio with a good amount of protein for when I need a 'treat.' We don't have anyplace to get Quest here or I might try them, but I'm trying to lessen my reliance on dairy and they are whey based.

So, in the end, you don't have to worry about being tied to IP forever, as once you're in maintenance, you should be understanding the principles of it & how to re-lose any SMALL gains (don't leave it for long - stay on top of it).

If you like the packets - keep getting them (but they are pricey), but you don't have to. Like "Maile" says - knowing how to eat low carb to reset again can be done with 'regular' food.

Liana

65X65
04-24-2014, 04:11 PM
A few people have been discussing this - here's my way of doing it - I also choose a Fun Meal instead of a Funday, mainly because I like the way I am eating now and don't feel all that deprived. Besides on the day you are planning on doing the fun meal ie. out with friends for pizza & beer :jeno::cofdate::jeno:, or pub natchos, or wedding dinner with fruit cake (lol), etc do a Phase 1 breakfast & lunch. No big deal. My weight hasn't gone up or down by more than 2 lbs since I started maintenance so it seems to be working for me. I do have some IP Broccoli Cheddar soup packets, simply because I like them (hard to believe eh?) but I also like to use Vega protein powder for a vegan smoothie in Tropical Tango or Garden of Life Raw Vegan Protein powder in cacao kiss as a rich tasting chocolate smoothie. Sometimes I'll get some Curves bars in Yogourt Berry Bliss - a bit higher in calories but pretty decent carb ratio with a good amount of protein for when I need a 'treat.' We don't have anyplace to get Quest here or I might try them, but I'm trying to lessen my reliance on dairy and they are whey based.

So, in the end, you don't have to worry about being tied to IP forever, as once you're in maintenance, you should be understanding the principles of it & how to re-lose any SMALL gains (don't leave it for long - stay on top of it).

If you like the packets - keep getting them (but they are pricey), but you don't have to. Like "Maile" says - knowing how to eat low carb to reset again can be done with 'regular' food.

Liana

I only use EAS drinks a few times a week for convenience...When trying to prepare for a day or two of knowing the eating will be less controlled than what I do at home, or when in recoup mode, ...I use all "real food" .

At the end of my IP stint I had some serious health issues that required me to get off IP, ASAP because the processed nature of IP food exacerbated my problem. I went to subbing lo carb for IP packets, then P2 was all with real food as well...

It can be done...and there is little intelligent reasoning to think one can't do that. Knowing the nutritional makeup of the diet is a must to do it right though...For me anyway, knowing already the nutrient makeup came in handy so I could clone the last few weeks and phase off. I did not have to "quit" the program... just had to DIY recreating them for a short while...exactly.

eandc2006
04-24-2014, 04:29 PM
I only use EAS drinks a few times a week for convenience...When trying to prepare for a day or two of knowing the eating will be less controlled than what I do at home, or when in recoup mode, ...I use all "real food" .

At the end of my IP stint I had some serious health issues that required me to get off IP, ASAP because the processed nature of IP food exacerbated my problem. I went to subbing lo carb for IP packets, then P2 was all with real food as well...

It can be done...and there is little intelligent reasoning to think one can't do that. Knowing the nutritional makeup of the diet is a must to do it right though...For me anyway, knowing already the nutrient makeup came in handy so I could clone the last few weeks and phase off. I did not have to "quit" the program... just had to DIY recreating them for a short while...exactly.

I am with you guys on this one too. I don't really eat IP foods when in maintenance but when I do a phase 1 day, I do and I usually use ALTS like the EAS shakes or something from Nashua. Like Canadjineh said, get those small gains right away...like 5lbs right away. I have a 5lb range and for some reason if its at the top, its a phase 1 day for me.

My weight for the most part fluctuates daily depending on sodium, TOM, if I drink enough water, etc but not usually more than 2lbs unless its TOM.

Truly though a day here or a day there, heck even a week of phase 1 is more than reasonable to keep the new you and make sure your hard work is not reversed.

eandc2006
04-25-2014, 10:41 AM
Morning maintainers! Hope you all are are well and looking forward to a nice weekend. I am so happy its Friday. This weekend I am planning on finishing painting our guest room, getting my hair done, riding my bike to a homemade/handcrafted market in the neighborhood, attending a BBQ for a leadership program I am a part of, and RELAXING..somewhere in all of this. LOL.

Just to illustrate the "fun" scale jive and how weight loss or weight maintenance can be all of the place I wanted to share my weekly stats. As you know, I decided to do a week of phase 1 post being sick to get off a few lbs although with TOM nearing I am thinking it could have something to do with me being at the top of my range.

Started on Monday...Tuesday was 135. Skipped weighing on Wednesday. Yesterday I was 132. Today, I woke up with extremely puffy eyes and my wedding ring was tight. Got on the scale and it said 135. This is the course of 5 days. I know that I am not gaining weight but looking at how things impact us is interesting.

Just wanted to share to illustrate how our bodies react, process, and change each day and why for me a "range" is important since I mentioned that in my post yesterday. Rarely can I hit the same numbers on the scale each day.

65X65
04-25-2014, 10:56 AM
Morning maintainers! Hope you all are are well and looking forward to a nice weekend. I am so happy its Friday. This weekend I am planning on finishing painting our guest room, getting my hair done, riding my bike to a homemade/handcrafted market in the neighborhood, attending a BBQ for a leadership program I am a part of, and RELAXING..somewhere in all of this. LOL.

Just to illustrate the "fun" scale jive and how weight loss or weight maintenance can be all of the place I wanted to share my weekly stats. As you know, I decided to do a week of phase 1 post being sick to get off a few lbs although with TOM nearing I am thinking it could have something to do with me being at the top of my range.

Started on Monday...Tuesday was 135. Skipped weighing on Wednesday. Yesterday I was 132. Today, I woke up with extremely puffy eyes and my wedding ring was tight. Got on the scale and it said 135. This is the course of 5 days. I know that I am not gaining weight but looking at how things impact us is interesting.

Just wanted to share to illustrate how our bodies react, process, and change each day and why for me a "range" is important since I mentioned that in my post yesterday. Rarely can I hit the same numbers on the scale each day.

Well done...and so important to recognize. In myself I see similar peaks and hills...esp after anything with tomato sauce or seafood of any kind. I totally make my own tomato sauce but since I am out of last summer's frozen bounty from our garden...I am real careful to only buy and use the no salt added tomatoes......It will be good when the real deal hits the produce counters and farmers market again...soooooon I hope!

vachinyc
04-25-2014, 08:36 PM
Morning maintainers! Hope you all are are well and looking forward to a nice weekend. I am so happy its Friday. This weekend I am planning on finishing painting our guest room, getting my hair done, riding my bike to a homemade/handcrafted market in the neighborhood, attending a BBQ for a leadership program I am a part of, and RELAXING..somewhere in all of this. LOL.

Just to illustrate the "fun" scale jive and how weight loss or weight maintenance can be all of the place I wanted to share my weekly stats. As you know, I decided to do a week of phase 1 post being sick to get off a few lbs although with TOM nearing I am thinking it could have something to do with me being at the top of my range.

Started on Monday...Tuesday was 135. Skipped weighing on Wednesday. Yesterday I was 132. Today, I woke up with extremely puffy eyes and my wedding ring was tight. Got on the scale and it said 135. This is the course of 5 days. I know that I am not gaining weight but looking at how things impact us is interesting.

Just wanted to share to illustrate how our bodies react, process, and change each day and why for me a "range" is important since I mentioned that in my post yesterday. Rarely can I hit the same numbers on the scale each day.

I'm glad you shared this...and I appreciate everyone sharing how they manage the fun day/meal. I started out just adding a fun meal here and there and really didn't need the P1 day at all. (Most days are roughly P3 breakfast and P2 lunch and dinner with the occasional carb thrown in)

however, this past weekend, I had family visiting and while we walked a lot, I think I had too much eating out. I was roughly doing one fun meal a day. Not crazy but not paying as much attention to separating fat/carbs. Definitely a little random snacking with the kids. And, it's also TOM. (Which for me is also big C) I did a P1 day early this week and have been p3 breakfast/p2 lunch & dinner all week. Still up 2-3. I'm going to see what happens in the next couple of days but it was a little wake up call that it doesn't take much. Or that maybe three days in a row is too many.

Happy Friday all!

Maile
04-26-2014, 11:22 AM
That sodium can add pounds quickly..canned tomato sauce can be one culprit. Yesterday I discovered that zero sprite has 60 mgs of sodium. I am staying away from diet soda except once in awhile.

I also use the range..I do not stay at the same weight everyday. I still like my trending line from weightgraphers.

Happy Weekend.

vachinyc
04-26-2014, 04:59 PM
That sodium can add pounds quickly..canned tomato sauce can be one culprit. Yesterday I discovered that zero sprite has 60 mgs of sodium. I am staying away from diet soda except once in awhile.

I also use the range..I do not stay at the same weight everyday. I still like my trending line from weightgraphers.

Happy Weekend.

Wow. I would never have thought sprite zero would have all that sodium. I have given soda up too. Good thing!

Today at my weigh in, I was literally at the same weight I've been since March when I started maintenance. Yahoo! I guess the fluctuations were TOM/big C and/or taken care of with my P1 day :)

Maile
04-27-2014, 11:49 AM
Your maintenance is working! You are doing it! Good news on your weight staying the same. The fluctuations can be scary but you get used to them.

I am traveling so I will see what fluctuations I have when I return. These SF hills should be good for something!

My son lives in Fairfax near DC. You live in a great area.

vachinyc
04-29-2014, 09:18 PM
Your maintenance is working! You are doing it! Good news on your weight staying the same. The fluctuations can be scary but you get used to them.

I am traveling so I will see what fluctuations I have when I return. These SF hills should be good for something!

My son lives in Fairfax near DC. You live in a great area.

The DC area is great - though the traffic is abysmal! Enjoy San Fran. I love it out there too.

I just wanted to post today to say how grateful I am that I've learned so much on this program and from the boards. I'm amazed that 'maintenance works' and that I don't feel super deprived. Sometimes, sure, I'd like to make carefree food choices but I now approach that scenario with a check and balance mentality...it's not 'can't', it's a choose not to this time in order to (insert many benefits here).
Most importantly, the big key for me is the protein and healthy fat...both make me full and satiated, which for me, helps with the mindless munching and bad choices. The crazy low fat/no fat which equaled high carbs of the processed variety diets just don't work (for me). Who wants to be hungry all the time? Not me. I really appreciate how this plan has helped me get over the fear of fats in food. And has helped me learn about proteins. I am sure I will continue to learn and adjust - I just really appreciate having the tools to do that.
Happy day!

shrinkingsusie
04-30-2014, 10:16 AM
I have a question. For your weekly fun day, I know you are supposed to do a phase one day after. Are the fun days mandatory, and if I chose not to have one, must I still do one phase one day a week? Just on a temporary phase off and hitting phase one again in just over two weeks. Thanks:)

65X65
04-30-2014, 10:46 AM
I have a question. For your weekly fun day, I know you are supposed to do a phase one day after. Are the fun days mandatory, and if I chose not to have one, must I still do one phase one day a week? Just on a temporary phase off and hitting phase one again in just over two weeks. Thanks:)

I only do it if we have had a"social" event over the weekend or the previous day...which is usually only one meal...not an all day thing....

It is easier for me to stick to my own maintenance plan as much as possible. An extra for me would be a glass of wine, or extra fruit for dessert...(usually berries) or a piece of chocolate, or some cheese or avacado before a meal as an appetizer. That would cause me to go to a P1 day ASAP. Sometimes a salty day...seafood or tomato or hot sauce causes the scale to register water gain...so I make sure I do extra water the next day when I see that.

KSS is easiest and most successful for me.

Acknowledge tho' this is not going to work for some. Most have considerably more calorie leeway than I do...and others simply are not willing to give up or limit certain foods. Thank goodness..I have not found that to be an issue. I loved the simplicity of IP and enjoy eating healthy now...so a lot of the "problem foods" .....carbohydrates, fried foods, junk and snack items or processed sugar are not things I CHOOSE. We simply don't buy them.

Actually, much the way when I was on P1 I started paying attention to what other tables were ordering in restaurants...now I look at other's grocery carts as they check out...and honestly...would be embarrassed to have the junk some folks buy in my cart. (We don't feed it to our grandchildren either.) This makes staying out of trouble easier!;)

vachinyc
05-01-2014, 06:20 AM
I have a question. For your weekly fun day, I know you are supposed to do a phase one day after. Are the fun days mandatory, and if I chose not to have one, must I still do one phase one day a week? Just on a temporary phase off and hitting phase one again in just over two weeks. Thanks:)

Hey Susie: I don't have a fun day every week. And generally if I do have a fun day, it's more like a fun meal on a day, rather than a whole day. If I don't do a fun day, I don't do P1. Sometimes if I've only had a glass or two of wine as my fun, I don't do a P1 day -- more like a P3/P2. BUT, I think maintenance is a far more personalized phase than the others. Each person has to tinker with it and see what works and what you like doing.

I'm not sure if there's a hard and fast 'rule' in maintenance re: having to do a fun day. My coach has said many times...no need to add a fun day unless you want it.

Hope you're doing well!

65X65
05-01-2014, 07:16 AM
Hey Susie: I don't have a fun day every week. And generally if I do have a fun day, it's more like a fun meal on a day, rather than a whole day. If I don't do a fun day, I don't do P1. Sometimes if I've only had a glass or two of wine as my fun, I don't do a P1 day -- more like a P3/P2. BUT, I think maintenance is a far more personalized phase than the others. Each person has to tinker with it and see what works and what you like doing.

I'm not sure if there's a hard and fast 'rule' in maintenance re: having to do a fun day. My coach has said many times...no need to add a fun day unless you want it.

Hope you're doing well!

It does really seem more of us veer off our new lifestyle with a drink or two or a special meal rather than the "fun day".... What ever you decide...will be right for you. :D The important thing is to decide what works for your metabolism and personality!:cool:

Ruth Ann
05-01-2014, 07:35 AM
Been stalking the maintainers thread for the past few day since I move to maintenance on Saturday. Yeah me! Thanks everyone for sharing what's working for you - lots of good ideas here.

Nervous about adding all those carbs, fats, etc. but already planning on how to do it.

My dh asked what I wanted for my first "fun meal" and I honestly could not think of anything I was really craving. I like the way I eat now and really haven't missed much that I'm not adding back in now that I'm going to maintenance. He asked "don't you want a pizza or something?" And it doesn't even sound good. I think my tastes have changed! Hooray!

I am looking forward to a glass of wine with dinner or a Friday martini.

Maile
05-01-2014, 09:23 AM
Ruth Ann..That is great that you are going on maintenance on Saturday! I also had a martini when I reached maintenance!

65x65 That is good advice. Everyone needs to determine their own maintenance for their own personality.

Vachinyc: I agree with you. Protein and fats help keep me stable as well. I used to try to eat low fat and was unsuccessful in keeping my weight off. I am enjoying this new way of eating. I am glad you are doing well.

drd1961
05-01-2014, 01:35 PM
Been stalking the maintainers thread for the past few day since I move to maintenance on Saturday. Yeah me! Thanks everyone for sharing what's working for you - lots of good ideas here.

Nervous about adding all those carbs, fats, etc. but already planning on how to do it.

My dh asked what I wanted for my first "fun meal" and I honestly could not think of anything I was really craving. I like the way I eat now and really haven't missed much that I'm not adding back in now that I'm going to maintenance. He asked "don't you want a pizza or something?" And it doesn't even sound good. I think my tastes have changed! Hooray!

I am looking forward to a glass of wine with dinner or a Friday martini.
Whoohoooo!

canadjineh
05-01-2014, 01:56 PM
New maintainers (yaaay Ruth Ann) and the 'regulars', I do more like a fun meal than day and I don't schedule it weekly as I don't seem to crave it that way... Just making sure that it is LESS often than 1x/week not MORE often, lol. The next day is usually a P2 sort of day now and it seems to be working fine. A couple times in the past 2 months I have had a definite FunDAY not so much in amount of calories consumed as in bad carb/fat combos. THEN it's a P1 day the next day for me.

vachinyc
05-01-2014, 10:32 PM
Welcome to Maintenance Ruth Ann! You'll love it :)

Maile
05-02-2014, 08:14 AM
2 year 7 months. 3 years here I come.

jelliehel
05-02-2014, 01:19 PM
Hi Maile!

Congratulations to you! I am doing my own countdown. I am on maintenance 8 months as of April 30th and when I get to a year I want to be a part of the National Weight Control Registry. I think you are a part of that correct?
I do believe I have this but when that scale goes up I start to panic sometimes. I also see some of my old behaviors creeping back sometimes but the difference this time is that I nip it in the bud right away. Thanks IP!!!!!!

drd1961
05-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Hi Maile!

Congratulations to you! I am doing my own countdown. I am on maintenance 8 months as of April 30th and when I get to a year I want to be a part of the National Weight Control Registry. I think you are a part of that correct?
I do believe I have this but when that scale goes up I start to panic sometimes. I also see some of my old behaviors creeping back sometimes but the difference this time is that I nip it in the bud right away. Thanks IP!!!!!!

The scale wobble is really hard. Still dealing with that.

mars735
05-02-2014, 07:35 PM
2 year 7 months. 3 years here I come.
Wow, way to go, Maile!

Hi Maile!

Congratulations to you! I am doing my own countdown. I am on maintenance 8 months as of April 30th and when I get to a year I want to be a part of the National Weight Control Registry. I think you are a part of that correct?
I do believe I have this but when that scale goes up I start to panic sometimes. I also see some of my old behaviors creeping back sometimes but the difference this time is that I nip it in the bud right away. Thanks IP!!!!!!

I started maintenance almost the same day as you jelliehel, 9/1. And same here re old behaviors creeping back sometimes. I too find getting on track promptly to be the most effective. I'm thinking of calling the next year Phase 5. Hopefully by then I'll have learned all the pitfalls :D

stephascope
05-02-2014, 08:14 PM
The scale wobble is really hard. Still dealing with that.

Yes, this is freaking me out too. The scale has creeped up 2.8 lbs from my comfortable weight and I can't help but think I need to get back on a diet! Don't know if I'm pmsing like crazy or what but I've felt crampy and bloated all week. Planning on doing a very low carb week starting tomorrow. I guess this is all part of the maintenance process! Keeping things in check, watching the scale, and most importantly focusing on how the body feels. Right now this body feels blech! :?:

Maile
05-03-2014, 11:21 AM
Yes, the scale can be frustrating and scary. I am calmer now than I was in my first year. I give myself the 3 percent range that the National Registry suggests..so that amounts to a 4 pound up or down range. I also like the weight grapher and look at my trending weight average.
One of the comments I liked was: The scale simply tells you what you need to do. That takes the emotion out of it.

Drd1961and Jelliehel, I went through major panic reactions initially. I remember telling myself that going up 3 pounds did not mean that I was gaining all 100 pounds of my weight back..but it felt like it.

Jellie: That is great about 8 months! I did join the registry and like doing the surveys. Plus I like identifying myself as a maintainer. I used the IP data as proof that I kept the weight off for a year. Those old behaviors can creep back..especially when I am tired or stressed. You are right about nipping them in the bud and acting.

Mars735: I like the Phase 5 idea. You are also doing well to maintain for 8 months! In Refuse to Regain, the author says the most successful maintainers are the ones who quickly get back on track when they deviate. I am glad this is working for you.

Stephascope: I hope you feel better. Working off up pounds and eating low carb to get them down is part of my process. It is important how your body feels.

Ruth Ann
05-03-2014, 02:53 PM
Been reading through all the old maintainers threads - you guys are so inspiring! Started maintenance today and am super nervous about getting it right. I figure I'll be doing some fiddling to see what works for me. P1 & P2 were super simple, P3 my coach added things back in slowly but now I feel kind of rudderless. I'll figure it out, I'm sure!

Hawaii69
05-03-2014, 03:19 PM
Thanks all you maintainers!! I'm going to be hitting 2 months soon and that scale wobble is definately scary but then I make sure I get back on track and am back to my happy weight. It'll be an interesting year ahead of me but I'm determined and I appreciate all your real and positive comments!!

Maile
05-04-2014, 08:39 AM
Congrats on 2 months! Jumping back on track and getting to your happy weight is so helpful.

Ruthann: It is scary at first..Just take it slow. I ate p3 and slowly added foods. I think you will come to enjoy it!

Ruth Ann
05-04-2014, 09:10 AM
Thanks Maile!

How many on maintenance continue to track their food intake? I am right now because I want to continue to get an idea of the values of foods and be able to spot any problem areas in my diet. At some point does it make sense to quit tracking just because you pretty much have a good idea of what works and doesn't work? I don't mind the tracking - keeps me very aware of what I'm eating, but I can see where it would become tedious after awhile.

DRegan
05-04-2014, 04:41 PM
2 year 7 months. 3 years here I come.
Maile,
That's just awesome!!
Three more weeks till my 1year maintenance anniversary! :carrot:

I still use my fitness pal everyday! Keeps me accountable.
Just linked my fitbit to it, it's great!

Happy May everyone!!

D:)

65X65
05-04-2014, 05:12 PM
Thanks Maile!

How many on maintenance continue to track their food intake? I am right now because I want to continue to get an idea of the values of foods and be able to spot any problem areas in my diet. At some point does it make sense to quit tracking just because you pretty much have a good idea of what works and doesn't work? I don't mind the tracking - keeps me very aware of what I'm eating, but I can see where it would become tedious after awhile. intermittently do a check...but witheing GF.....and I don't use the substitutes, eating is something that has turned into a boiler plate for me. 3 breakfasts that I rotate..lunch is salad and protein and dinner is like P1 except I use any and all select and occasional vegetables with out thinking about it. Snack is also boiler plate and we don't buy any prossesed foods or any thing with sugar. This would not work for a lot of families, but since WE HAVE NO KIDS AT HOME!! DH ..IS OK WITH THIS TOO.. He can get pizza /sandwiches at work when he eats out if he wants it but LOL..he usually gets a salad with chicken these day.

stephascope
05-04-2014, 05:41 PM
Hi Ruth Ann,

I am still tracking with MFP and it's linked to my Jawbone UP activity tracker. I am still new to maintenance but I will continue to track what I eat to keep myself accountable.

I am on day #2 of no carbs and I'm missing my morning toast! Oh well, I can have toast later when I feel less fluffy.

jelliehel
05-04-2014, 06:56 PM
Thanks Maile!

How many on maintenance continue to track their food intake? I am right now because I want to continue to get an idea of the values of foods and be able to spot any problem areas in my diet. At some point does it make sense to quit tracking just because you pretty much have a good idea of what works and doesn't work? I don't mind the tracking - keeps me very aware of what I'm eating, but I can see where it would become tedious after awhile.

Hi Ruth Ann!

I continue to track also. On my fun day I am a little more relaxed with it but I go right back the next day. So funny because when I did WW tracking points started to get to me but so far MFP hasn't. I don't mind tracking at all. Good luck!

Ruth Ann
05-04-2014, 08:22 PM
Thanks guys! I will continue to track for now since I have never really looked at the nutritional value of a lot of foods before so it's really good information. Who knew a small apple had so many carbs?

Congrat DRegan on almost 1 year! That is exciting!

Tisado
05-05-2014, 03:04 PM
I was fine on P1 and P2, P3 harder because more of carbs at breakfast.
P4--total mess.

I can't handle the carbs at breakfast. The cravings are back. No cravings when in ketosis. I just need to stay on P1 for rest of life.

Ate like my friends for 4 days (party weekend for Opening Day of boating--big deal in Seattle) knowing that I would be paying the price.

Back to P1 today.
WI with coach is today. She is great, is determined that I won't yoyo this time.

I must be up 5-6 pounds from two weeks ago. Don't want to get on her scales. :^:

65X65
05-05-2014, 03:45 PM
I was fine on P1 and P2, P3 harder because more of carbs at breakfast.
P4--total mess.

I can't handle the carbs at breakfast. The cravings are back. No cravings when in ketosis. I just need to stay on P1 for rest of life.

Ate like my friends for 4 days (party weekend for Opening Day of boating--big deal in Seattle) knowing that I would be paying the price.

Back to P1 today.
WI with coach is today. She is great, is determined that I won't yoyo this time.

I must be up 5-6 pounds from two weeks ago. Don't want to get on her scales. :^:

I am convinced the psychological barriers for me are minimized because I am gluten free and stay away from the substitutes because they have a high glycemic index.

Finding a boiler plate way of doing P2/3 with real foods that are low glycemic and carb would be better for your body.

It may work for you, to ease into a maintenance plan by mimicking IP using real animal protein and meeting the caloric limits for your BMR by adding good carbs (most veggies...no starchy or limited) from veggies and low glycemic fruits like fresh berries. Avoiding the carbs and sugar is the only way for those with severe cravings, or a BMR that is going to be challenged to get in the appropriate nutrients with out weight gain.


Please PM me if I can help.

Tisado
05-05-2014, 04:17 PM
...
Finding a boiler plate way of doing P2/3 with real foods that are low glycemic and carb would be better for your body.....

Thanks, appreciate the support. Too much freedom is scary.

Being away from the board for most of week didn't help.
I'll see what the Maintainers are eating and work out a spreadsheet.

Tisado
05-06-2014, 09:18 AM
Dropped about 4 pounds from my weekend pig out.
Still needs to work on the other 4.

DH made mistake of asking me if I have a plan to lose the weight I'd gained in last couple of weeks. He is lucky he still has his head. "Yes, I have a plan. :mad: I talked to my coach today!"

Got my veggies with me, ready to tackle several days of P1.
Journal, journal, journal.

Ruth Ann
05-06-2014, 10:59 AM
DH made mistake of asking me if I have a plan to lose the weight I'd gained in last couple of weeks. He is lucky he still has his head. "Yes, I have a plan. :mad: I talked to my coach today!"


Boy is he lucky you are so even tempered!

And just UGH! 3 days of maintenance and I am feeling all bloated and yucky - definitely retaining some water, I can feel it in my ankles and the scale is up 2 pounds and I KNOW I haven't eaten enough to actually gain that much. I suspect this will pass as my body adjusts but in the meantime - just yuck!

canadjineh
05-06-2014, 11:51 AM
Hang on, Ruth Ann, perhaps your glycogen restock just took a little extra time and didn't happen in P3 - it didn't for me... I actually LOST more weight in P3. Your body will begin to figure it out soon :spin:

Liana

Ruth Ann
05-06-2014, 01:20 PM
Hang on, Ruth Ann, perhaps your glycogen restock just took a little extra time and didn't happen in P3 - it didn't for me... I actually LOST more weight in P3. Your body will begin to figure it out soon :spin:

Liana

Thanks Liana! I think you may be right - I kept losing in P2 and stayed the same in P3. I just hate this feeling.

stephascope
05-06-2014, 09:02 PM
Hey Ruth Ann, I stayed the same weight in phase 3 and gained a few in phase 4 as well. I suspected I would have to follow a fairly low carb diet after IP which I started on Saturday. I felt so bloated and awful. Once I eat a carb, I can't stop all day. I was wanting to eat baked goods all day long. I feel so much better now after cutting all that out. I am going to continue keeping my carb grams under 50 a day and have a fun meal or two a week and see how that goes since the phase 4 protocol was causing me too many cravings.

Ruth Ann
05-06-2014, 10:07 PM
Hey Ruth Ann, I stayed the same weight in phase 3 and gained a few in phase 4 as well. I suspected I would have to follow a fairly low carb diet after IP which I started on Saturday. I felt so bloated and awful. Once I eat a carb, I can't stop all day. I was wanting to eat baked goods all day long. I feel so much better now after cutting all that out. I am going to continue keeping my carb grams under 50 a day and have a fun meal or two a week and see how that goes since the phase 4 protocol was causing me too many cravings.

I think I need to lower my carbs. It's funny, I'm not having any cravings and haven't actually had a fun day or meal yet but I think I just added too much all at once. Coach said to bring my carbs up to 100 and I suspect that's just too much for me so I'm going to lower it some and see if that works better for me. I drank a ton of water today and am not feeling so bloated so I'm hoping it was just too much sodium on top of upping everything.

65X65
05-07-2014, 06:17 AM
Hey Ruth Ann, I stayed the same weight in phase 3 and gained a few in phase 4 as well. I suspected I would have to follow a fairly low carb diet after IP which I started on Saturday. I felt so bloated and awful. Once I eat a carb, I can't stop all day. I was wanting to eat baked goods all day long. I feel so much better now after cutting all that out. I am going to continue keeping my carb grams under 50 a day and have a fun meal or two a week and see how that goes since the phase 4 protocol was causing me too many cravings.

I think I need to lower my carbs. It's funny, I'm not having any cravings and haven't actually had a fun day or meal yet but I think I just added too much all at once. Coach said to bring my carbs up to 100 and I suspect that's just too much for me so I'm going to lower it some and see if that works better for me. I drank a ton of water today and am not feeling so bloated so I'm hoping it was just too much sodium on top of upping everything.

I def think we shorter folks coming off the diet and having been overweight have a real carb sensitivity issue that rears its ugly head quickly. AND 5lbs on us looks like 10 (or more) on someone else! I keep my carbs under 40 most days. The glycogen refresh on me happened later...both because I'd been sick, and I worked up to P 3-4 real slow...after reading "The art and science of low carbohydrate living" by J volek and S Phinney:
http://www.artandscienceoflowcarb.com/
I was convinced the IP diet could not fix me to eat a boatload of carbs...as the literature from IP suggests. And reminded myself this diet was initially designed for athletes to get "off season weight" off an athlete quickly. Not initially designed to treat obesity. It just happens to work for those suffering from obesity. I suspect there is a high degree of carb sensitivity in many/most of the followers of IP who were obese prior to the diet and find they have trouble maintaining.

The plan would work better for folks if they did not have the expectation IP was going to fix their metabolism, and phased off with a different approach and mindset as a "non-athlete" who used the protocol and benefited from the weight loss the diet facilitates. Our maintenance needs to be designed differently, and expectations for what normal eating will be going forward need to address the physiologic metabolic issues of obesity, and the psychological change that needs to accompany this diet into maintenance. Many figure this out quickly...but it is all too apparent from reading the posts...just as many are not willing to come to that conclusion. It is easier to say "the diet did not work long term" than to accept a metabolism that does not work.....for life!!

Ruth Ann
05-07-2014, 06:49 AM
Interesting info 65. I knew maintenance would take some fiddling for me to figure out what exactly would work for me - I just didn't expect to feel bad quite so fast! But I'm down a pound today and not feeling so bloated so I feel somewhat better and a bit more in control.

Interesting website. I agree with you that keeping the carbs lower than what most "normal" people can handle is going to be essential for me to maintain my loss. Where that falls I think will just be a matter of figuring it out.

Maile
05-07-2014, 08:10 AM
RuthAnn, I am glad you are feeling better. I agree with 65x65 that eating lower carb keeps me more stable. My coach did not tell me to eat 100 gm of carbs a day.

Stephascope: Carbs can be triggers for me also..That is why I stay away from refined carbs. Hope you are feeling better.

Tisado: P1 does work. Journaling is also a great tool. Good luck this week.

DRegan: Thanks for your support. You are doing well with that 1 year anniversary coming up in a month!!!!!

We finally have warmish weather and I am enjoying seeing flowers when I walk.

65X65
05-07-2014, 09:19 AM
Interesting info 65. I knew maintenance would take some fiddling for me to figure out what exactly would work for me - I just didn't expect to feel bad quite so fast! But I'm down a pound today and not feeling so bloated so I feel somewhat better and a bit more in control.

Interesting website. I agree with you that keeping the carbs lower than what most "normal" people can handle is going to be essential for me to maintain my loss. Where that falls I think will just be a matter of figuring it out.

Interestingly..my coach used a MUCH slower approach to adding food and esp carbs. She is a Chiro...has some weight issues off and on and I think she gets it and is on target with how she advised me.

The Volek book and research really indicate the point where you start to gain is where your sensitivity to carbs is and advocates slow-w-w-ly approaching the discovery point for your carb threshold..and once determining it...ratchet back a little! Keep monitoring. IP could do a better job of this....and as I said...there is a PSYCHOlogical element that is frustrating if one thinks PHYSIOlogically...things are going to work right.

Better to expect the worst...as far as that goes and find out ...SURPRISE...you are someone who CAN eat the whole enchilada! (And I bet they will be taller than 5'2")

Ruth Ann
05-07-2014, 09:39 AM
I think my coach was giving me starting points and assumed I would adjust up or down depending on how I did. She's always been right on with her suggestions so I think she just over estimated what I could tolerate. I see her today and will be interested on her take on it. Just glad I got rid of that awful bloaty balloony feeling!

And yeah, I'll bet anyone who can eat the whole enchilada is taller than I am! I stretch it when I say 5'1 1/2" (almost)!

Tisado
05-07-2014, 10:00 AM
I've been on P1 for couple of days and I've dropped the weight from the weekend eating. :carrot:
Now need to drop couple more pounds to get back to what I've set at my goal weight (162 my scales/165 at WI).

I'll need to keep my carbs pretty much like on p3. After talking with my coach, I plan on getting carbs from veggies and blue berries. Will stay away from bread/pasta/cereals.

I'm scheduled myself to do WI every two weeks. I can change to every week if needed. My coach doesn't charge for visits, only for product. I can usually find a WF dressing that I need.

Love the support I get from coach and you gals.

:^:

Ruth Ann
05-07-2014, 11:12 AM
Yeah Tisado!

According to my coach's scale I am exactly the same weight as last week so I will keep an eye on things and go a little slower. Best guess is my body adjusting and increased sodium. I need to learn not to stress so much (easier typed than done!).

lisa32989
05-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Hi all

My doc is putting me in maintenance

I've found a doc who really understands thyroid function and it seems my cycling on/off of p1 isn't giving the thyroid time to heal/recover.

I'll be in maintenance and then, eventually moving to alternative p1 (actually doc prefers p2).

So, I guess if it takes me another year to lose my last weight, it'll be worth it to be healthy!

I've been having a REALLY hard time reading the daily complaints about a slow or small WL. Really. I'd like to invite those people into my world.

The scary thing for me is that being out of ketosis makes my appetite go CRAZY. Doc says this is part of poor thyroid function & I might end up having to gain a bit of weight to regain my health
:cry: :eek: :fr:

I'm going to need all of you to help me thru this....

There are certainly foods I'll have to restrict b/c they cause me problems every time I eat them (portion control). I'll be gluten-free because gluten is known to increase thyroid dysfuntion. I'm going to make a list of these items and #1 will be to work up the willingness to surrender these foods.

Cheese works as a condiment for me but I have problems keeping it in the house b/c it becomes an overeaten snack.
There are others...I'll work on my list.
I hope I can share this journey with you all.

jelliehel
05-07-2014, 01:11 PM
Hi all

My doc is putting me in maintenance

I've found a doc who really understands thyroid function and it seems my cycling on/off of p1 isn't giving the thyroid time to heal/recover.

I'll be in maintenance and then, eventually moving to alternative p1 (actually doc prefers p2).

So, I guess if it takes me another year to lose my last weight, it'll be worth it to be healthy!

I've been having a REALLY hard time reading the daily complaints about a slow or small WL. Really. I'd like to invite those people into my world.

The scary thing for me is that being out of ketosis makes my appetite go CRAZY. Doc says this is part of poor thyroid function & I might end up having to gain a bit of weight to regain my health
:cry: :eek: :fr:

I'm going to need all of you to help me thru this....

There are certainly foods I'll have to restrict b/c they cause me problems every time I eat them (portion control). I'll be gluten-free because gluten is known to increase thyroid dysfuntion. I'm going to make a list of these items and #1 will be to work up the willingness to surrender these foods.

Cheese works as a condiment for me but I have problems keeping it in the house b/c it becomes an overeaten snack.
There are others...I'll work on my list.
I hope I can share this journey with you all.

Good luck Lisa! You'll do great!!!

65X65
05-07-2014, 01:24 PM
Hi all

My doc is putting me in maintenance

I've found a doc who really understands thyroid function and it seems my cycling on/off of p1 isn't giving the thyroid time to heal/recover.

I'll be in maintenance and then, eventually moving to alternative p1 (actually doc prefers p2).

So, I guess if it takes me another year to lose my last weight, it'll be worth it to be healthy!

I've been having a REALLY hard time reading the daily complaints about a slow or small WL. Really. I'd like to invite those people into my world.

The scary thing for me is that being out of ketosis makes my appetite go CRAZY. Doc says this is part of poor thyroid function & I might end up having to gain a bit of weight to regain my health
:cry: :eek: :fr:

I'm going to need all of you to help me thru this....

There are certainly foods I'll have to restrict b/c they cause me problems every time I eat them (portion control). I'll be gluten-free because gluten is known to increase thyroid dysfuntion. I'm going to make a list of these items and #1 will be to work up the willingness to surrender these foods.

Cheese works as a condiment for me but I have problems keeping it in the house b/c it becomes an overeaten snack.
There are others...I'll work on my list.
I hope I can share this journey with you all.

Lisa, you are the trooper of troopers. And the teacher of teachers. We have all learned so much from your journey.

Wishing you the best of HEALTH and definitely a safer road to your goal. We are all riding in little sidecars with you. :moped:....The better to throw confetti and a party :hat: when you decide you are where you want and need to be. Look :mag:at where you started...and where you are now...it is all most amazing!! And look at how well you understand yourself. How many get to a lower goal weight...and have not yet gotten to that point.You are well ahead of a lot of people on this, or any diet.

Tisado
05-07-2014, 01:30 PM
... The scary thing for me is that being out of ketosis makes my appetite go CRAZY. Doc says this is part of poor thyroid function & I might end up having to gain a bit of weight to regain my health


You'll make this work. You've got a doctor with a plan to get you healthy.
Looking forward to seeing your posts.

canadjineh
05-07-2014, 01:44 PM
Hi all

My doc is putting me in maintenance

I've found a doc who really understands thyroid function and it seems my cycling on/off of p1 isn't giving the thyroid time to heal/recover.

I'll be in maintenance and then, eventually moving to alternative p1 (actually doc prefers p2).


There are certainly foods I'll have to restrict b/c they cause me problems every time I eat them (portion control). I'll be gluten-free because gluten is known to increase thyroid dysfuntion. I'm going to make a list of these items and #1 will be to work up the willingness to surrender these foods.

Cheese works as a condiment for me but I have problems keeping it in the house b/c it becomes an overeaten snack.
There are others...I'll work on my list.
I hope I can share this journey with you all.

Hi Lisa, and welcome to the Gluten Free Maintenance world of 65x65 and myself. You need any help, call on us and we'll be there! 65 needs to keep a fairly low carb count still, while mine is usually between 100-150g/day. So we can help no matter what your circumstances. :yes::yes::yes:

You will enjoy Alternative P1/P2 - it's just so much less pressure, lol. Which will help with weight loss... :D

Keep it up, WTG!
Liana

JLUS
05-07-2014, 03:45 PM
:hug: to you on your NEW ROAD to improved health and well-being.

You have made every twist and turn along the way a success, and I have no doubt you will ROCK THIS to the MAX!!

Keep us posted with your new menu and let us know what you need help with.

We are ALL here for YOU!!! :grouphug:

Ruth Ann
05-07-2014, 04:08 PM
Lisa - hooray for having a plan! I'm so happy that your doctor has identified the issues and is working with you to get you healthy! Being in limbo is the pits.

You'll do great in maintenance.

joysh
05-07-2014, 04:38 PM
Hi All! I'm back. I did a reboot in March, lost about 9 pounds, and gained it back in April. I was doing some performing (singing) and needed to not be on P1 or P2 - it was like running a race and I really needed the extra Carbs and some sugars. I just went a little overboard.... Still learning about my control limits.

It was a wonderful experience (anyone here know Carmina Burana?) and I vowed to get right back on P1 after the last performance and get the extra pounds off. So today I started back on P1. I Refuse to Regain the weight that I lost so I will be diligent until it is gone. I know I can do this and feel very good about it. I'm also not going to announce it to my friends or family (except here, of course, where I can get the kind of support I really need).

Also - I refuse to buy any clothes in sizes larger than the smallest that I have bought. And I bought some wonderful summer items last year, so here I come!

I'm waiting for the pool to open on May 20. Very excited about getting back into swimming! I know that will help. Right now, I need to get through this week of final exams and grading. It's always a very stressful week for me. But I've done it on P1 and I'll do it again on P1.

Lisa, good luck. You've come so far! I know it's disappointing, but just continue what you have been doing. You look great! I know you will get the support you need, as you are always so generous with support for others. Hang in there, girlfriend!

Ruth Ann, welcome to the world of maintenance! I entered it a little over a year ago and it's great! There may be a few bumps as we learn how to maintain our new bodies, but it's wonderful! Yay!

Hi 64, Maile, Tisado and everyone! :wave::wave:

Has Ishbel had the baby yet?

lisa32989
05-07-2014, 09:55 PM
Thanks for your votes of confidence. The frustrating thing is not being at the goal I was looking for. I'm not giving up on it but we'll get my health back in line first. I may just have to live 20 lbs overweight at this point. It sure is better than 110 overweight!

I'm still forumulating the plan but it will consist of mainly P1 veggies (both select and occasional - and more than 4 c/day), salad as before, protein with lunch and dinner, some of my favorite IP p1 items, and a bit more carbs at breakfast. It'll be mostly grain-free, soy/gluten-free. Carbs most days will come from pumpkin/winter squash, sweet potato, a few berries, and dairy.

Cruciferous veggies and other goitergens will need to be cooked so there goes my raw spinach smoothies. I LOVE these but I love me more. Maybe I'll need to develop a taste for lettuce in my smoothies instead of spinach

I'm still formulating tomorrow's meal plan.

I'm looking at to have an egg and a gluten-free pancake tomorrow for breakfast (searching thru my paleo recipes for one that uses butternut squash or sweet potatoes - both of which I just got in my CSA share)

Lunch will be a salad with pulled pork and some celery (main meal at lunch tomorrow due to a social event with "heavy hors d'oeuvres" at dinner time. I'll probably end up with a shake and veggies for that event and another shake and veggies at nite.

I'm also considering some homemade yogurt with blueberries at some point.

I need to plug everything into MFP so right now I'm just brainstorming.

I'm DETERMINED not to gain weight, although my doc says I should be willing to gain "some" temporarily. I just need my clothes to fit -especially since I'm not going "down" more in the near future.

Argh! Thanks for wishing me luck!

65X65
05-07-2014, 10:10 PM
Thanks for your votes of confidence. The frustrating thing is not being at the goal I was looking for. I'm not giving up on it but we'll get my health back in line first. I may just have to live 20 lbs overweight at this point. It sure is better than 110 overweight!

I'm still forumulating the plan but it will consist of mainly P1 veggies (both select and occasional - and more than 4 c/day), salad as before, protein with lunch and dinner, some of my favorite IP p1 items, and a bit more carbs at breakfast. It'll be mostly grain-free, soy/gluten-free. Carbs most days will come from pumpkin/winter squash, sweet potato, a few berries, and dairy.

Cruciferous veggies and other goitergens will need to be cooked so there goes my raw spinach smoothies. I LOVE these but I love me more. Maybe I'll need to develop a taste for lettuce in my smoothies instead of spinach

I'm still formulating tomorrow's meal plan.

I'm looking at to have an egg and a gluten-free pancake tomorrow for breakfast (searching thru my paleo recipes for one that uses butternut squash or sweet potatoes - both of which I just got in my CSA share)
1c pumpkin or squash, 1 egg and 2 whites, 2 Tbs almond flour, dash pumpkin pie spice 1 tbs maple syrup , 1 tsp baking powder, 1 tbs butter melted, some almond milk to make pouring consistency
This makes enough pancakes for 2 adults or 3 little girls....You can actually play around with the amounts of the ingredients to get consistency and texture and nutritional make up you want . It's almost bullet proof.
Depends on what I have!

J

Lunch will be a salad with pulled pork and some celery (main meal at lunch tomorrow due to a social event with "heavy hors d'oeuvres" at dinner time. I'll probably end up with a shake and veggies for that event and another shake and veggies at nite.

I'm also considering some homemade yogurt with blueberries at some point.

I need to plug everything into MFP so right now I'm just brainstorming.

I'm DETERMINED not to gain weight, although my doc says I should be willing to gain "some" temporarily. I just need my clothes to fit -especially since I'm not going "down" more in the near future.

Argh! Thanks for wishing me luck!
Good luck X 2

eandc2006
05-08-2014, 11:37 AM
Hi all. So good to see all of you.

Welcome Ruthann. You are doing awesome (as usual) and will get in the groove of maintenance. It's been almost a year and a half for me and I still find myself a few up and down. Like the others have said, sodium really plays a part in the bloat and gain not to mention the newly added carbs. I find it best to check in with the scale and let it tell me what to do.

Hello Joysh. Good to see you back on. I too, continue to find myself up/down the same 5lbs and have recently came to accept if you will (its taken me almost a year and a half) that at some points during the week, I will be at the low range and others I will be more on the high end. Truly I gain fluctuate 5lbs so easily that I found myself really becoming obsessed to always see 130...even doing phase 1 days when I was not eating in a way that would necessitate the day prior. Of course I wasn't gaining 5lbs in a day after eating a heavy sodium meal! But, I became a bit too focused on the number. Now, I am learning that so long as I am within my range, it's all good.

Hello Maile, 65x65. How are you both? Ready for summer?

Lisa, I was just thinking about you on my drive to work this morning and wondering how you are doing. I am happy to hear you have a doctor who understands the thyroid function and how to get you feeling better. In the meantime, I hope you are celebrating all your success thus far. You have really done a tremendous amount of work and inspired so many people. I hope you know we all think you are the cats meow.

Really happy its Friday tomorrow and so looking forward to the weekend. my dad is coming to visit from out of state and its just energizing for me when he comes to town. Denver has been warming up and I think we will do a lot of bike riding, BBQing (healthy stuff), gardening, and visiting. Its such a treat when loved ones come to stay. I found out on Tuesday he would be visiting and it has propelled me though the week.

Cheers!

65X65
05-08-2014, 12:46 PM
Hi all. So good to see all of you.

Welcome Ruthann. You are doing awesome (as usual) and will get in the groove of maintenance. It's been almost a year and a half for me and I still find myself a few up and down. Like the others have said, sodium really plays a part in the bloat and gain not to mention the newly added carbs. I find it best to check in with the scale and let it tell me what to do.

Hello Joysh. Good to see you back on. I too, continue to find myself up/down the same 5lbs and have recently came to accept if you will (its taken me almost a year and a half) that at some points during the week, I will be at the low range and others I will be more on the high end. Truly I gain fluctuate 5lbs so easily that I found myself really becoming obsessed to always see 130...even doing phase 1 days when I was not eating in a way that would necessitate the day prior. Of course I wasn't gaining 5lbs in a day after eating a heavy sodium meal! But, I became a bit too focused on the number. Now, I am learning that so long as I am within my range, it's all good.

Hello Maile, 65x65. How are you both? Ready for summer?

Lisa, I was just thinking about you on my drive to work this morning and wondering how you are doing. I am happy to hear you have a doctor who understands the thyroid function and how to get you feeling better. In the meantime, I hope you are celebrating all your success thus far. You have really done a tremendous amount of work and inspired so many people. I hope you know we all think you are the cats meow.

Really happy its Friday tomorrow and so looking forward to the weekend. my dad is coming to visit from out of state and its just energizing for me when he comes to town. Denver has been warming up and I think we will do a lot of bike riding, BBQing (healthy stuff), gardening, and visiting. Its such a treat when loved ones come to stay. I found out on Tuesday he would be visiting and it has propelled me though the week.

Cheers!

Hi to you as well...and happy long lost summer...? Well..spring would be nice LOL...we are back in the 50s here...but there is hope for the weekend! Even at 50+degrees...there is no snow so at least can get outside for a walk. Even picking up branches and winter debris from the yard was a real treat.

Weight/Maintenance: Yes-I also play within a weight range...usually 4-6 lbs...and what I eat determines what the scale says to me. Sugar is evil...!!!....and I don't miss it, so that is good. I SOO avoid it as I do not want those cravings. Experienced that at Christmas....and it is SCAREY.. Wine would be easy to get into the habit of again...so I go easy...and say "NO THX" first off...then if the event goes on...or it is really special...allow myself after a second or third offer to say "Sure...I'll have a glass now"...but sometimes I still say no! It feels good to be that in control! I am SURE that could be worse than the sugar if I am not insisting to be the boss of it. I eat a combo of P2-3 most of the time, and make sure the protein is still the main event followed by the veggies/salads. I think that is what we were supposed to learn after the whole process ...??? It's not a bad way to eat either! Tues night I had a P1 steak dinner out with friends...one had a burger and fries...two had huge salads packed with cheese, sugared pecans and dried cranberries and some creamy dressing...with a few pieces of buffalo chicken tenders..(breaded of course) on top. I'm sure I had the lowest calorie meal...was more than satisfied and took 1/2 of my 12 oz steak and vegetables home. One of the women said..how could I stay thin "..eating such a heavy meal"!! I had to LOL because her dinner was definitely way bad...and mine was so NOT bad! It is so good to hear other maintainers experience similar up and down fluctuations and see it after many of the same foods as well.

dak1lls
05-08-2014, 01:18 PM
I am so glad I popped in today and could see your post Lisa. I want to add my hugs and support along with the other maintainers. You have never been a whiner/complainer. I appreciate that so much and it has helped me to strive for that same attitude. I have to admit I do gripe to myself at times. :) I know this journey has lasted much longer for you than others. It is refreshing to see you maintain a positive outlook throughout. As you have often reiterated, this is a life change and so there really is no deadline to meeting your goals, because you have already made that life change, which is really the ultimate goal.

I like many others have found that maintenance is a lot of work at times and continued vigilance. I recently learned just how hard it is on my body to return to my old eating habits. During a recent road trip I just went hog wild, eating so many bad foods; namely refined carby foods like donuts, breads, pastas! The more I ate, the more I craved! I started getting bloaty and my injury prone ankle swelled up. I could feel my mid section expanding. It was awful. I was up 7 pounds in a week! Completely self inflicted!

So, Monday I started P1 again and am down 4lbs. Even though I am starting to feel better I still have pain in my joints, abdomen, back and swelling. I know eating this stuff was not good for me in the past, but I seem to be so much more sensitive to it now. I do not want to continue a cycle of constantly doing P1, because I really want to get away from processed foods. So, I am recommitting to those life changes I know in my heart are required for me.

Thanks for the updates Maile. I always feel as though you speak to the same things we all struggle with and show that we can do this.

Ruth Ann: so proud of you for hitting maintenance! What a joy to see you become so successful and thanks for sharing your insights. Even when your answers on the other threads are not to questions I ask, I find it is helpful for me to read them, and I know it must be true for others.

65: the winter has been long and Spring still seems elusive. We are hoping for a nice day tomorrow and again on Mother's Day. The rain we received yesterday was good for the crops and my yard, but gloomy weather sure makes me cranky. :D

vachinyc
05-08-2014, 01:55 PM
Hi all: I've been away from the boards a bit - it feels like a lot of check ins the last couple of days. Having an active Maintenance board is wonderful.

Lisa: Glad you have a good doc but eesch, I'm so sorry your path is so bumpy/challenging. you truly have helped so many of us - if we can help you at all, we're all here. (I somehow think you'll still be leading the charge, no matter what path you're taking)

Ruth Ann: It does take a little time to sort out what works but I know you'll rock this. I still have those days where I think ... omg... i'm going to gain it all back. But then that's not what happens and I shock myself. (and yes, I still track my food, even the fun days, in MFP...it just helps me understand the fluctuations and also helps me build that mental muscle on when I can and can't have a fun day/meal/drink)

Hi Maile, 65, Mars, DAK, joysh, Liana, eandc, Laurie and anyone else I may have missed. Happy Thursday!

I'm still doing ok with this maintenance thing. It seems to work. Yay! I have even been able to experiment a bit with fun meals/days/drinks and as long as I don't overdo and keep some exercise in the mix... things stay within 2-3 pounds. (Now, of course I am still dealing with the emotion of seeing the scale go up at all, and wanting it not to do that, but in all, things are good)

Yesterday I had a weird thing happen - after a long brisk evening walk I felt a little light headed and nauseous. Worked out that I hadn't had enough protein earlier in the day so I scarfed down an IP bar and felt much better. I didn't have my brought-from-home salad/protein for lunch and sometimes it is hard to get enough protein eating out. I learned yesterday that I really do need the protein. Need to think about making sure I have a good protein snack handy.

Snacks have been the hardest thing for me to sort out. Portable, not carby, with protein... and I love peanut/almond butter too much. I hate to keep relying on the IP bars but they do they trick. (The 100 cal pack of almonds work too but I'd like to figure out some variety)

It's great "seeing" all of you maintainers!

ecdcslim
05-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Hi ladies, I've missed you all.

Lisa - really rooting for you, what a challenge but if anyone's up for it you are!

RuthAnn - congrats and welcome to maintenance. If it's one thing I've learned, it's that this is when the real journey starts!

I'm hanging in there, still losing hair, but I think it might be slowing down - so strange and freaky. I eat P3 mostly, but sugar has now become my slippery slope - one caramel, one chocolate kiss and I need to physically remove myself from the area! I do a fun day but it's become a fun dinner and then I do P1 the next day… all working for me. But it's a constant process for me.

canadjineh
05-08-2014, 02:39 PM
I hate to keep relying on the IP bars but they do they trick. (The 100 cal pack of almonds work too but I'd like to figure out some variety)

It's great "seeing" all of you maintainers!

Some suggestions for snacks:
jerky (esp. turkey) if you don't have to worry too much about sodium.

The tiny 100g tubs of greek yogourt that usually come in a 4 pack. You can just pop them into your purse with a spoon and they will be just fine non-refrigerated til the afternoon.

A hardboiled egg - shell ON - will tuck into a baggie in your purse and be fine all day - do not peel until ready to eat.

Any other kind of nuts especially fresh walnuts or pecans (I don't suggest macadamias unless you are trying to get your fat grams up - they are waaay high) We buy $750 worth of nuts once a year from a special fresh/organic nut sale and keep them in our cool room all year -just portioning them out into a baggie as we need.

Curves also makes protein 'meal bars' that work with our plan, and they are cheaper (in Canada 5 bars/$9) and pretty tasty - Yogourt Berry Bliss and a fudgy chocolate one. NOT the 'snack bars' - not enough protein in those.

A piece of low fat cheddar & celery sticks.

A tiny tub of mixed peanut butter & WF peanut spread with celery sticks. (I have tiny Tupper containers that work well for this & salad dressing single servings.) Or for savoury - a tiny tub of greek yogourt with spices in it for a dip & your celery or jicama, whatever.

All of the above work without a fridge or cold pack during the day as long as you eat it that day. I don't suggest putting the yogourt or egg back in the fridge for another day if you didn't use it, just in case.

Hawaii69
05-08-2014, 02:44 PM
Hi All! I'm enjoying all of your comments and enjoy the positive and encouraging advice. It is hard when you start maintenance. I think especially the first month is hard, you are figuring it out and sometimes get too panicky about numbers, I know I did anyway. But, I did start exercising more and it feels good to be toning and moving! And my coach told me to just remember, 'sugar is the devil' and have protein with every meal. I am figuring it out and realizing what works and what doesn't. I had some carbs at a barbeque the other night and right away, my tummy was sore and bloated and gross! I turned to a friend who is still on P1 and said, 'its so not worth having bad carbs!' She laughed and stuck to her plan. She's down close to 60lbs since January! I'm so proud of her, and she looks great. Its all about feeling better and this plan certainly helps in that area! Congratulations maintainers!

Lisa: you've done great, and like you said, 20lbs to lose is much better than over a 100lbs!

Maile
05-09-2014, 11:18 AM
It is nice to hear from so many maintainers!
Right now my maintenance is going well. Over the last few months I have stepped it up a notch and feel happier. These changes have helped me.

One I now use my step and activity tracker daily. This has caused me to increase my workouts and physically walk more. I can feel the difference in my energy.

Two I am now doing daily planks! This started with my Physical Therapist...To my surprise I have developed new abdominal core muscles
and have lost two inches on my waist and flattened my stomach. Yes.

Three: I have cut back on my morning low carb bread and cut back on wine.

Four: I have a daily tracker where I post on the day's success on my mini goals..

Five: I have pretty much switched to stevia as a sweetener. At first I found that stevia did not taste sweet at all compared to artificial sweeteners. Now I am used to the taste and have tamed my sweet tooth..to some degree.

All of these steps have led me to be at goal or lower. This is better than being at the high end of my range.

I am feeling positive about maintenance. The next statistic is 5 years means that you have a 75 percent chance of keeping off the weight. 2years is an 20 percent chance of keeping it off.

Joysh: I think you are showing confidence by refusing to get new clothes. The nice thing about support here is that you can share your daily weight battles. I hear you on the end of the year school stress. It is hard.

Eandc: Hello to you and glad that you are doing well.

Dak1lls: You do feel better and more in control when you are back on P1. Glad those 4 pounds went down.

vachinyc: Keeping that protein handy is a good idea. I have to measure almond butter as I love it! Your maintenance is going well.

Ecdslim: Maintenance is a constant process. I like the quote: Wake up determined and go to sleep with satisfaction.

Canadinjeh: I like your snack ideas. That gives me variety also.

65x65: I also cut back on wine. I think it helps me lose up pounds and maintain better.

Hawaii69: The first month is hard. You are still juggling and learning. You are lucky to have an IP friend who has lost 60 pounds! The two women at work who introduced me to IP quit the program.

Lisa: I think your doctor is wise to get this thyroid problem cured in this next year. I hope your new eating plan is making you feel better. Did your doctor mention anything about taking your thyroid medication at least 45 minutes before taking other supplements, especially calcium? That is what my doctor told me.

canadjineh
05-09-2014, 12:59 PM
Good going Maile: You 'plankster', you! Abs of steel! Its amazing how a step tracker/pedometer can make you more aware of movement during the day, too.

:D Liana

Tisado
05-09-2014, 01:32 PM
My doctor looked at MRI results and confirmed that my feet are in bad shape. No more treadmill but the elliptical is okay (within reason).

Worst part is that I can't wear nice shoes. Pumps are out. My "ring" toe on left foot hurts like a pinched nerve as soon as try them on. I've been wearing Keen Whisper sandals for couple of years. I have them in 4 colors, good support. Feet don't hurt when wearing them.

I don't have to dress in business attire for work so haven't been in rush to get nice shoes. Now when I want to wear something besides pants, I can either wear sporty sandals or strappy dress sandals. No happy medium.

Ok, done venting for awhile. :^:

vachinyc
05-09-2014, 09:20 PM
Some suggestions for snacks:
jerky (esp. turkey) if you don't have to worry too much about sodium.

The tiny 100g tubs of greek yogourt that usually come in a 4 pack. You can just pop them into your purse with a spoon and they will be just fine non-refrigerated til the afternoon.

A hardboiled egg - shell ON - will tuck into a baggie in your purse and be fine all day - do not peel until ready to eat.

Any other kind of nuts especially fresh walnuts or pecans (I don't suggest macadamias unless you are trying to get your fat grams up - they are waaay high) We buy $750 worth of nuts once a year from a special fresh/organic nut sale and keep them in our cool room all year -just portioning them out into a baggie as we need.

Curves also makes protein 'meal bars' that work with our plan, and they are cheaper (in Canada 5 bars/$9) and pretty tasty - Yogourt Berry Bliss and a fudgy chocolate one. NOT the 'snack bars' - not enough protein in those.

A piece of low fat cheddar & celery sticks.

A tiny tub of mixed peanut butter & WF peanut spread with celery sticks. (I have tiny Tupper containers that work well for this & salad dressing single servings.) Or for savoury - a tiny tub of greek yogourt with spices in it for a dip & your celery or jicama, whatever.

All of the above work without a fridge or cold pack during the day as long as you eat it that day. I don't suggest putting the yogourt or egg back in the fridge for another day if you didn't use it, just in case.

Thanks for the snack ideas canadjineh - especially no fridge needed. I definitely need to branch out. I love Greek yogurt. I usually have it for breakfast and just didn't think about packing to go.
Thanks!

Maile: planks...how long have you been doing them? I can't even imagine a plank taking inches of my waist but I may have to give it a try :D

Have a great weekend everyone!

Maile
05-10-2014, 09:12 AM
Vachinyc: I have been doing them daily for 3 months. I do the front plank and then side planks. It may not have been the only factor in losing inches, but I definitely notice more muscles on my stomach. I do three sets for a minute each.

Tisado: That is too bad about no dress shoes. It sounds like you have some nice sandals that work. I think the treadmill is harder on your feet than the floating elliptical.

Canadjineh: My abs are not quite steel..but they certainly are better! The odd part is that I thought I already had ab muscles from the nautilus weight machines. I think I have been missing the core muscles.

Here are success indicators from the National Weight Control Registry. I was wrong..At 2 years of maintenance. you have a 50 percent chance of keeping the weight off.


Here are the best predictors of keeping weight off:

1. Longer duration of weight loss maintenance (more than 2 years)
2. Dietary consistency
3. Less fast food consumption
4. Less TV viewing
5. More frequent breakfast consumption
6. Lower levels of depressive symptoms and dis-inhibited eating

Key behaviors associated with weight maintenance are:

1. Activity levels of over 200 minutes per week (at least for women in the cited study)( average 60-90 minutes a day)
2. High levels of dietary restraint, such as:
Deliberately taking small helpings
Avoiding certain foods
Counting calories
3. Having lower levels of depressive symptomology
4. Controlling overeating

Ruth Ann
05-10-2014, 09:58 AM
Thanks everyone for the great welcome - you guys are the best! :hug:

So much information and wisdom here - I feel a lot more confidence in my ability to keep the weight off.

Maile - great list and something to keep in mind. I printed it out and it now resides on my refrigerator where my P1 sheet used to live.

I'm trying to not get into a rut by eating the same things all the time - dh and I have been working on planning a dinner menu for the week (planning dinner really helps us stay on track and organized) and then I can figure out the rest of my day based on what's for dinner (leaving room for unexpected events, of course, which seems to be the norm for me).

Having dinner tomorrow night to celebrate Mothers Day and 3 birthdays. Not too worried about dinner since sis is hosting and she always has lots of lean protein and veggies on the menu but will probably have cake. Figure I can count that as my first "fun" meal. Now to just get over the nagging voice that says "you'll gain 120 pounds back if you eat cake." :dizzy: My brain is really annoying sometimes. :)

Hawaii69
05-10-2014, 10:11 AM
Vachinyc:


Here are the best predictors of keeping weight off:

1. Longer duration of weight loss maintenance (more than 2 years)
2. Dietary consistency
3. Less fast food consumption
4. Less TV viewing
5. More frequent breakfast consumption
6. Lower levels of depressive symptoms and dis-inhibited eating

Key behaviors associated with weight maintenance are:

1. Activity levels of over 200 minutes per week (at least for women in the cited study)( average 60-90 minutes a day)
2. High levels of dietary restraint, such as:
Deliberately taking small helpings
Avoiding certain foods
Counting calories
3. Having lower levels of depressive symptomology
4. Controlling overeating

Love this! Thanks! Good reminders!

Ruth Ann, you are feeling like me! I sometimes go into panic mode thinking the weight I lost is back on. I'll wake up in the morning and feel my tummy sometimes! hee hee But, am realizing that how I feel about food has changed and I am much more conscious of what goes into my mouth. Exercise helps too. And staying away from sugar is huge! Love the suggestions on this board too! Its great to see others maintaining and giving great suggestions.

Ruth Ann
05-10-2014, 03:27 PM
Went to the farmers market this morning - not a ton of selection this early in the season but I did discover Labneh - I think I'm in love! It's basically a soft cheese made from yogurt and is scrumptious. Just used it as a dip for my lunch veggies. The one I bought is made locally (which I like), all organic and is awesome. For a 1/4 cup it has 68 calories; 5 gm of carbs; 3 gm of fat and 5 gr of protein. A little high in sodium at 615 but worth it. I think adding some dill to it would be awesome. I can see myself using this a lot

canadjineh
05-11-2014, 02:04 AM
Went to the farmers market this morning - not a ton of selection this early in the season but I did discover Labneh - I think I'm in love! It's basically a soft cheese made from yogurt and is scrumptious. Just used it as a dip for my lunch veggies. The one I bought is made locally (which I like), all organic and is awesome. For a 1/4 cup it has 68 calories; 5 gm of carbs; 3 gm of fat and 5 gr of protein. A little high in sodium at 615 but worth it. I think adding some dill to it would be awesome. I can see myself using this a lot

There's a great recipe for making your own yogourt Labneh in a cookbook I got out of the library (which is Cooking for Celiac, Crohn's, Colitis, and IBS) and it suggests storing the labneh balls in olive oil infused with spices in your fridge. Even the photo was yummy! They almost looked like pickled eggs....ooooh, as I type this, I'm thinkin' it's time to make a load of pickled eggs which I love, and seriously allowed P1-4.... hmmmmm.... Tomorrow's shopping list - a couple dozen eggs.

Liana

Ruth Ann
05-11-2014, 06:04 AM
I found a bunch of recipes for it too and may try making my own. I also have Lisa's recipe for yogurt as soon as I get brave enough to try it. I really like the idea of making as many of my own foods as possible so I can control what goes in them. I have an old cookbook that I love "more with less" that has some great recipes. I figure we keep heading in that direction and we'll be fine (good thing dh likes to cook as much as I do!). My problem, as always, is time so I need to get back in the habit of large batches prepared ahead.

Family dinner tonight to celebrate 3 birthdays. Since I know pretty much what's on the menu I pre-logged (subject to adjustment) including the wine and ice cream cake (my first "fun" meal) and then planned the remaining meals for today to make sure I got enough protein and fats. I can't decide if I'm being obsessive or prudent. :dizzy: But I figure until I have things totally figured out, I might as well keep being careful. Note: I also pre-logged my P1 day for tomorrow.

Ruth Ann
05-11-2014, 06:06 AM
Love this! Thanks! Good reminders!

Ruth Ann, you are feeling like me! I sometimes go into panic mode thinking the weight I lost is back on. I'll wake up in the morning and feel my tummy sometimes! hee hee But, am realizing that how I feel about food has changed and I am much more conscious of what goes into my mouth. Exercise helps too. And staying away from sugar is huge! Love the suggestions on this board too! Its great to see others maintaining and giving great suggestions.

So glad you're doing well Hawaii! And I know the feeling - I wake up and check to see if I can still feel my ribs!

Love the new pic - you look wonderful!

lisa32989
05-11-2014, 09:56 AM
I found a bunch of recipes for it too and may try making my own. I also have Lisa's recipe for yogurt as soon as I get brave enough to try it. I really like the idea of making as many of my own foods as possible so I can control what goes in them. I have an old cookbook that I love "more with less" that has some great recipes. I figure we keep heading in that direction and we'll be fine (good thing dh likes to cook as much as I do!). My problem, as always, is time so I need to get back in the habit of large batches prepared ahead.

Just made some yogurt yesterday. It is SO EASY!
Put milk in pan
Slowly Heat to 180 F
Cool to 120
Whisk in yogurt starter (I use Siggis - organic, grass fed & not nonfat)
Put somewhere warm for 24 hours (oven with light on)
Save a few tablespoons for the next starter
Strain if you want Greek yogurt.
Put the resulting whey in the garden.

Hawaii69
05-11-2014, 10:04 AM
Thanks Ruth Ann! I feel better!

65X65
05-11-2014, 10:05 AM
Just made some yogurt yesterday. It is SO EASY!
Put milk in pan
Slowly Heat to 180 F
Cool to 120
Whisk in yogurt starter (I use Siggis - organic, grass fed & not nonfat)
Put somewhere warm for 24 hours (oven with light on)
Save a few tablespoons for the next starter
Strain if you want Greek yogurt.
Put the resulting whey in the garden.

LOVE Siggis... even can find it in airports sometimes..(try the coffee shops)

canadjineh
05-11-2014, 12:54 PM
Great yogourt in Canada: Liberte organic (from Quebec) and Island Farms Dairy Cooperative from BC. No gelatins, starches, fillers, artificial ingredients, just milk & live bacterial cultures. Fat ranges from 0%-9%.

I can recommend both from personal experience :drool:

Liana

Ruth Ann
05-12-2014, 08:02 AM
Ok, you guys have convinced me to give making my own a shot. I love yogurt!

Went to a dinner with a bunch of family yesterday and had a great time. My first foray into eating away from home since I started maintenance. Made some good choices - had 1/2 a glass of wine, 1/2 slice of ice cream cake (and dh ate 1/2 of that) and today I am down 2 lbs. Went over my usual number of carbs, under on my fat - I actually ended up having 2 "carb meals" so I would have thought the scale would be up. Not complaining :D

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

Tisado
05-12-2014, 09:34 AM
A full week ago a did a four day pig out. Not a real binge...just ate overate like buddies I was with that weekend.
And...I'm happy to say that after a week on P1 I am lower than before that weekend. Almost ready to try maintenance again.
Scary but this time I'll have my chart based on the Whatcha eating board.
So glad you gals are so helpful.:)

joysh
05-12-2014, 04:22 PM
Hi everyone! I'm out of the Black Hole of Final Grading. Turned in my final grades at noon, came home and ate a wonderful IP chicken soup curry dish that I love + a big salad. It will take at least the rest of today (maybe more) to decompress, but I can see the light.

That said, it was no problem at all to stick to P1 during this. I'm already down 6 pounds from last week at this time and I will continue this until the remaining few are gone and I can wear my skinny summer clothes. I want to be back below my goal weight by June 12, my 2 year date from beginning IP. I'm now over a year into maintenance and that feels wonderful.

We are so lucky to have these tools!

Yes, eandc2006, it requires consistent attention to maintain. I still am attached to seeing numbers on the scale, although the way clothes fit should be a better indicator.

I started to say "it's a constant battle," but I really don't want to have a constant battle in my life. I want to reframe the thought and merely remain careful in what I eat.


I like many others have found that maintenance is a lot of work at times and continued vigilance. I recently learned just how hard it is on my body to return to my old eating habits....So, Monday I started P1 again and am down 4lbs. Even though I am starting to feel better I still have pain in my joints, abdomen, back and swelling. I know eating this stuff was not good for me in the past, but I seem to be so much more sensitive to it now. I do not want to continue a cycle of constantly doing P1, because I really want to get away from processed foods. So, I am recommitting to those life changes I know in my heart are required for me.

Dak1lls, So true. I agree that this is not the best cycle and I hope to get out of it. Thus far, in this one year, I've done little segments of P1 (2 weeks or so) 3 times. I know it's better than having to do 9 months of P1, and I'll do it periodically if it means I can keep the weight off. But I'd prefer not to.

Vachinyc, I also still get light-headed when I put out a lot of energy and don't have enough protein in my system. I also find that the little bit of carb and sugar that it in the IP bars (or alternative bars, like Quest) + the protein will do the trick.

Canadjineh, Thanks for the snack suggestions! These are great!!

Maile, Thanks for you wonderful lists of how to maintain. You continue to be an inspiration to me. You always have such kind and thoughtful words to encourage people, too. I appreciate it.

Tisado, yes, it's good we have this tool.

Maile
05-13-2014, 08:08 AM
Joysh: Good to hear that your grades are done and that your p1 is going well. Thank goodness for these tools from IP. I do not look at maintenance as a battle..but do consider it as constant vigilance and monitoring. However, I really am enjoying it!
Tisado: Being prepared with charts for meals is a good idea for your return to maintenance.

RuthAnn: I am glad the scale was not up! You are doing well.

lisa32989
05-13-2014, 10:06 PM
Hi everyone.
I'm adding things sparingly & slowly

Tonite I made guac (real guac...not even half asparagus)
I'll use that as the spread on my IP zucchini/potato bread tomorrow with my veggie sandwich.

I've added a paleo pancake (gf) for breakfast or some yogurt with fruit. I'm just not adding everything on the same day at this point.

The simplest thing I'm adding is more select veggies and not worrying about restricting the occasional veggies. Oh, and more fats...

This is the way my doc gradually wants to add foods. She prefers I add fats to carbs at this point.

And she thinks she can get me back off thyroid meds :)

I'm still enjoying mostly P1 foods...just gradually adding more. I feel so much better if I stay away from carbier foods. We'll slowly play with this and see how I do.

I may actually do eggs with greens and guac in the morning, instead of a smoothie. Back to planning...

Ruth Ann
05-14-2014, 08:14 AM
Wow - everyone is so motivating and has such great ideas!

I'm plugging along - getting easy to plan as I add more variety. Trying to branch out a little and not eat the same things all the time. I realized that I was tending to stick to the same foods because they were known and easy but I don't want to get bored. Of course, it makes it really easy to pack my lunch if I eat the same thing all the time!

Big "duh" moment for me - was having terrible runs and kept thinking maybe I was overdoing the dairy. Of course, stopping the magnesium supplements never crossed my mind. :dizzy: Makes a huge difference!

SylviesGirl
05-14-2014, 10:35 AM
Okay, maintainers, I need some insights. I know that I am the only one who can ultimately make the decision to start phasing off, but I would like your opinions to be thrown in the stew before I decide, if you would be kind enough.

This week, I am down 1.5 from last Wednesday, but up 1 from Friday. That makes for down .5 for the past 2 weeks. So that is where I am this morning, just as background.

My goals is/was 120. I believe that will be a bit low to ultimately maintain, but I am trying to allow for the glycogen stores refilling (3 - 5 lbs) and then giving myself a 5 lb range for maintenance. My true "resting" weight/goal being 125 - 130 which, you'll notice is where I am right now, and I think that is part of why my "drive" is gone.

These last few lbs are being very stubborn and I am beginning to kind of stall out. I am getting resentful of the plan for the first time ever. My attitude is beginning to sour. I am hungry all. the. time. It is a slog now, and I'm wondering if my body is telling me to phase off; it needs things changed up. Or if I am just getting frustrated and throwing in the towel. Can anyone relate? I don't want to put too much importance on these last few lbs that the whole thing turns into a negative, frustrating experience.

So my questions to you maintainers are:

1. Being at 128 now, is it possible that I will get down to 120 through the phasing off process? Is it likely?

2. Is the logic behind my 120 goal sound? Or, if I feel like that is too low of a number for me to maintain (and be able to live how I want to live), is it too low of a number to try to hit in the first place? Am I building in some measure of failure?

I could use some feedback. Everything is beginning to get jumbled and emotional in my head about this. I don't want to break my neck over a number that maybe doesn't make that much sense. On the other hand, after 15 months on P1 and 120lbs off, I don't want to give up prematurely, just a few lbs short of a goal . . . if that goal is logical.

Thanks.

joysh
05-14-2014, 12:51 PM
Okay, maintainers, I need some insights.
So my questions to you maintainers are:

1. Being at 128 now, is it possible that I will get down to 120 through the phasing off process? Is it likely?

2. Is the logic behind my 120 goal sound? Or, if I feel like that is too low of a number for me to maintain (and be able to live how I want to live), is it too low of a number to try to hit in the first place? Am I building in some measure of failure?

I could use some feedback. Everything is beginning to get jumbled and emotional in my head about this. I don't want to break my neck over a number that maybe doesn't make that much sense. On the other hand, after 15 months on P1 and 120lbs off, I don't want to give up prematurely, just a few lbs short of a goal . . . if that goal is logical.

Thanks.

Hi Sylvie. Not sure if this will help, but I can share my experience. I lost 4 pounds on P2 - and I did P2 for about 3 weeks. I was very hesitant and apprehensive about going out of ketosis. But I spent 2 full weeks on strict P3 and lost another 3 pounds. When I finally added more foods in full maintenance I gained 2 pounds and maintained that through the summer until I went on a trip and went little overboard.

But I've been able to maintain pretty well. Right now I'm doing a few weeks of P1 to get off a few extra pounds and get back to my "under goal weight" that I want to be at for the summer. But I credit the process.

You're correct in stating that only you can make the final decision about phasing off, but you've been on P1 for 15 months. I was on it strictly for 9 months and lost 80 pounds. The thing is, you can continue to lose on P2; the only difference is your lunches look like your dinners, so you are eating a bit more calories. I completely understand your readiness to move forward.

Continue to read these boards and get inspiration from those who have gone before. Continue to track your food each day and watch the scale. My advice would be to be careful and take the time to phase off properly and slowly, giving your body ample time to adjust to the addition of more calories and other foods.

You've done so well! Congratulations!

canadjineh
05-14-2014, 01:35 PM
Hi SylviesGirl: according to the WHO & CDC charts you are in your normal healthy range right now... depending on your age - you are in the 17-42nd percentile (comparing American weights of course). So it is up to you and how comfortable you feel with your body. Of course, the more we are stressed, the higher our cortisol levels get and the easier we keep or pack on additional fat. :stress: Sooo... take a deep breath.
You already have the tools to correct any upward tendencies if need be, so you can relax and decide whatever you like. Probably not likely at your height that you will lose 8 lbs in Phase off, maybe 1/2 that - IF you are one who tends to lose at that time.

We can all help support you in your decision here...

Liana

SylviesGirl
05-14-2014, 01:39 PM
Hi Sylvie. Not sure if this will help, but I can share my experience. I lost 4 pounds on P2 - and I did P2 for about 3 weeks. I was very hesitant and apprehensive about going out of ketosis. But I spent 2 full weeks on strict P3 and lost another 3 pounds. When I finally added more foods in full maintenance I gained 2 pounds and maintained that through the summer until I went on a trip and went little overboard.

But I've been able to maintain pretty well. Right now I'm doing a few weeks of P1 to get off a few extra pounds and get back to my "under goal weight" that I want to be at for the summer. But I credit the process.

You're correct in stating that only you can make the final decision about phasing off, but you've been on P1 for 15 months. I was on it strictly for 9 months and lost 80 pounds. The thing is, you can continue to lose on P2; the only difference is your lunches look like your dinners, so you are eating a bit more calories. I completely understand your readiness to move forward.

Continue to read these boards and get inspiration from those who have gone before. Continue to track your food each day and watch the scale. My advice would be to be careful and take the time to phase off properly and slowly, giving your body ample time to adjust to the addition of more calories and other foods.

You've done so well! Congratulations!

Thanks, Joysh. I really appreciate you sharing your experience with me. It never occurred to me that I could do P2 for an extra week or so. I think it is P3 that I am fearing. Phase 2 may be what I need right now, though, and might give me what I need better than P1. I am starting to want to be more active (which, if you had known the "old" me, you would know what a miracle that is), but find that I really don't have the strength. My husband and I have rediscovered walking together -- we used to love to do that together -- but some days, it really saps me. The other day, we went kayaking (just flat water), but I was really dragging. I want to get back into some kind of shape and have some strength and stamina and enjoy the summer months more . . . and then I get impatient with the process. P2 may be the answer and, if I still lose a few more on it -- perfect! I did do P2 back in January for a bit to help jump start a stall and, you're right, I did lose on P2. You've definitely added to my perspective -- thanks so much.

Is there any detriment to being on P2 longer than 2 weeks? Does anyone know of a reason to limit it? Not that I am contemplating being on it endlessly, but just gathering information.

No matter what I do, I will be no further than P2 over Memorial Day as we are going on vacation, and I don't want my first bit of freedom to happen on vacation. I will need to be home, sequestered, with my computer, this forum, myfitnesspal, my food, etc! ;)

SylviesGirl
05-14-2014, 01:41 PM
Hi SylviesGirl: according to the WHO & CDC charts you are in your normal healthy range right now... depending on your age - you are in the 17-42nd percentile (comparing American weights of course). So it is up to you and how comfortable you feel with your body. Of course, the more we are stressed, the higher our cortisol levels get and the easier we keep or pack on additional fat. :stress: Sooo... take a deep breath.
You already have the tools to correct any upward tendencies if need be, so you can relax and decide whatever you like. Probably not likely at your height that you will lose 8 lbs in Phase off, maybe 1/2 that - IF you are one who tends to lose at that time.

We can all help support you in your decision here...

Liana

Thanks, Liana! Am I really in the normal healthy range now???? Wooo-Hooooo! I hadn't realized that! I hadn't checked in a few weeks. That is mind-blowing -- for many years I never thought I would ever be in that category again. :carrot::carrot::carrot:

canadjineh
05-14-2014, 01:51 PM
Thanks, Liana! Am I really in the normal healthy range now???? Wooo-Hooooo! I hadn't realized that! I hadn't checked in a few weeks. That is mind-blowing -- for many years I never thought I would ever be in that category again. :carrot::carrot::carrot:

Here's a couple of helpful sites: an MD's site for body mass index: http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm I choose WHO/CDC as they are probably have the largest sample base (whole world lol).

And to get an idea of body fat % - they do say it is not totally accurate (only the underwater weigh-in is, lol) but at least it is something to go by: I suggest the Covert Baily Body Fat Tool simply because more measurements have to be plugged in to get the #. If you are fairly active you could probably use the Military Tool taken from US Dep't of Defense as they assume a larger % of muscle fibers than average.
http://www.fat2fittools.com/

At least it's an interesting view of ourselves...
Liana

patns
05-14-2014, 04:09 PM
Lisa your body seems to react the same as mine,thinking I may have thyroid issues too. But that said, I realized after got to the end of ip that I actually did best on P2 and it has to be my ongoing way of eating. I can,t tolerate grains and most dairy so P3 was a nightmare for me. I am following very low carb as way of life now. I,ll bet your body adjusts to an ongoing P2 way of eating and you will lose slowly but steadily.

lisa32989
05-14-2014, 10:43 PM
Lisa your body seems to react the same as mine,thinking I may have thyroid issues too. But that said, I realized after got to the end of ip that I actually did best on P2 and it has to be my ongoing way of eating. I can,t tolerate grains and most dairy so P3 was a nightmare for me. I am following very low carb as way of life now. I,ll bet your body adjusts to an ongoing P2 way of eating and you will lose slowly but steadily.

I'm really not doing a p2. I'm not really doing p3.
More of a hybrid of phases.
The p3 breakfasts are yummy but my doc wants me to have some carbs before bed, too so I have to spread it out more.

Today I had a spinach IP shake smoothie for breakfast (I don't see myself giving these up), along with some coffee with added fat.

Lunch was a zucchini/IP potato puree "bread" with real guac as the "spread" and cucumbers, lettuce & sprouts inside. I also dipped lettuce and cukes in the guac (about 2T total)

Dinner was a pork steak (I'd never heard of one til I moved to StL), some roasted radishes, and about 1.5 c rhubarb jello (rhubarb puree, mio, plain gelatin).

I had an IP fruity shake (mixture of flavors) for a snack after school.

I'm not measuring my veggies as carefully & today I had about 6-7 cups select veggies plus lettuce and the bit of avacado.

Tomorrow will be similar. I'm looking at homemade plain yogurt & strawberries (fresh from today's farmer's market) as an addition with lunch (which will be egg salad from 2 hard boiled eggs, pickles, lettuce). We're going out so dinner will be meat and veg.

I can't do the grains in p3 breakfast, either. But I found paleo versions & really like pancakes. It ends up being higher fat than carbs but works for me. I'm restricting gluten. I just feel better when I do this. Also, some foods just turn on some inner binge monster. I still need to restrict them, even if they're okay P1 foods.

It feels so good to eat clean. When I don't, I seem to easily become sick with a very upset digestive system.

canadjineh
05-14-2014, 11:23 PM
Hi Lisa: There was a yummy roasted radishes with curry yogourt dip recipe in this month's Alive magazine - is that where you got the recipe?

The rhubarb jello sounds amazing, I may try that myself. My three rhubarb plants have gone CRAZY!! I pulled all the flower stalks coming up to keep the plants from going all tough & stringy, but now I have to do some pulling of stems and chopping/stewing. At least my rhubarb is very sweet, I just have to add about 5 pkts of stevia per BIG stock pot of rhubarb. I do a lot up & freeze it so we have yummy change in fruit for the winter when we get tired of mandarins, apples and bananas.

Liana

lisa32989
05-14-2014, 11:42 PM
Hi Lisa: There was a yummy roasted radishes with curry yogourt dip recipe in this month's Alive magazine - is that where you got the recipe?

The rhubarb jello sounds amazing, I may try that myself. My three rhubarb plants have gone CRAZY!! I pulled all the flower stalks coming up to keep the plants from going all tough & stringy, but now I have to do some pulling of stems and chopping/stewing. At least my rhubarb is very sweet, I just have to add about 5 pkts of stevia per BIG stock pot of rhubarb. I do a lot up & freeze it so we have yummy change in fruit for the winter when we get tired of mandarins, apples and bananas.

We just eat the radishes roasted with some salt, pepper, garlic.
I'm not a fan of curry flavor so curry anything doesn't happen at our house.

I got some baby fennel in my CSA share this week. Not a fan of that flavor either. I posted it on FB, hoping a local friend or colleague might like it so it doesn't go to waste.

I SO WISH I had rhubarb plants. Maybe I'll plant some...

Ruth Ann
05-15-2014, 08:46 AM
Sylviesgirl: I too thought about going lower before phasing off but since I've lost more than I expected after leaving P1, I'm glad I did it when I did.

I know I shouldn't trust those body fat machines, but I was kind of tickled that yesterday it showed my % had dropped from 50+ to less than 30%! Yeah me!

Lisa - Sounds like you and your doc have a solid plan, hooray! I'm finding it hard to stop measuring veggies. I've been doing it so long that it's like second nature. I think I will work on not measuring the select veggies and then go from there. I'm pretty good at eyeballing serving sizes!

Maile
05-15-2014, 09:27 AM
Lisa: I am glad your healthy eating is paying off and that you are feeling well.I have never heard of roasting radishes and I am going to try it!

Ruth Ann..That is very nice that your body fat has dropped! I was so happy when my BMI entered the normal range.

Sylviegirl: I also lost weight on Phase 2. I hope you figure out your goal weight. I increased my goal weight by a few pounds from my lowest weight..This happened when I started increasing my weights and developing more muscles.

Canadijineh: You are lucky to have sweet rhubarb! I love curry and going to look for that recipe. Thanks.

Patns: Nice to hear from you. I hope your end of school year is going well. I am feeling stressed!

Maile
05-15-2014, 09:30 AM
I liked this blog.

It's been one year now since I've been at my lowest weight, and while I have sometime in May marked as my Maintenance Anniversary, I've managed to stay at this weight for over a year, only during the winter holidays gaining back up to 8 lbs. I treat each day as it's another day to be my best self - to eat right, to exercise, and to lead by example. Last May I got rid of all of my clothes that were "big", knowing that if I had them 'round I could fit into them "if I had to." I've joined challenges, virtual walking groups, and have even initiated walking groups at school with other teachers. I've had to do this, if for no one else than me. NONE of this was about dieting. EVER. It wasn't about just losing the weight. It was about living longer, enjoying time with my husband (who is already one of the most active people I know, and at 17 years older than me was destined to outlive me if I didn't make some changes). It became about "showing up everyday" as Jillian Michaels says. There are days that I ache - my hips, my feet, my knee. You name it. I've come to accept that I am going to be 50 in a few months (though inside my head I still see myself as somewhere around my 40s - and the "Real Age Test" has me pegged at 42.8). But I do what I need to do. I count my calories. I track my fitness. I leave my husband love notes around the house, reminding him of how much I appreciate him for being my best friend and for loving me so deeply for the past 26 years. I show up every day as if it's my one job. And honestly, some days I sure wouldn't mind calling in sick or playing hookey!

This past weekend my brother and his wife came down for a visit - we haven't seen them for a few years - and we took them out to try SUP. Because it was on my SILs bucket list, DH videotaped the whole thing. I was shocked to see the footage and see myself. And yesterday, for the first time in many, many years, the whole family was together. I am hoping my dad sends some pics so I can post at least one of my brothers and me. All three of us have been working to get healthy this past year and it shows. I loved being with them and am sad today thinking it may not happen again anytime soon. Time truly does fly, doesn't it? Where has this past year without my dear Auggie gone?

On a final note, I don't believe in luck. I don't consider myself lucky to live where I do, or have the job that I have, or to be in such amazing relationships. I believe we all have the ability to put ourselves out into the world and live the life we want to live. We may have obstacles to overcome along the way (or hurdles to jump, as one of my students put it), but we can all jump high if we get a running start.

Ruth Ann
05-15-2014, 12:13 PM
Maile: I like that! What a great perspective.

canadjineh
05-15-2014, 01:10 PM
I loved your post Maille!
I tried the Real Age test just now... and despite the Fibromyalgia and Arthritis, my 'real age' is 44.1 years even though I am 50. So, Yaay, I'm on the right track!
It was quite comprehensive.
I got rid of my 'big clothes' as soon as I shrank out of them. I have a pair of jeans that are slightly bigger on me mainly for that puffy TOM or when I've been glutened by mistake, when I don't want anything squeezing my belly. But that is it! no using them 'cause I can't fit my butt into the skinny jeans!
:drill:

Liana

Stand Up Paddleboarding is a big thing here since we are on a huge lake (1000 km of shoreline - it's kind of shaped like an X or H almost so lots of bays & inlets.) I haven't tried it, just kayaking & canoeing, but it looks like fun.

lisa32989
05-15-2014, 03:01 PM
NONE of this was about dieting. EVER. It wasn't about just losing the weight. It was about living longer, enjoying time with my husband (who is already one of the most active people I know, and at 17 years older than me was destined to outlive me if I didn't make some changes).
It became about "showing up everyday"
My favorite part!

My journey has been purely about health. About living longer and being able to move better with less pain. I think this is when I get annoyed with what I consider petty complaints about slow losses in a given week. The big picture is so much more important than one weekly data point.

vachinyc
05-15-2014, 10:01 PM
Loved the blog post Maile. Thanks for sharing.

Lisa: your morning shake...are you still buying IP or doing an alternative version? I never had a problem getting in veggies so I never added spinach to a shake...does it make it more filling? Do you add about 1 cup spinach or more?

All: I've noticed that the 'being cold a lot - esp feet and nose' - is still happening even though I've been in maintenance a while. I was always more hot - excessively so - pre IP. And while some of it could have been the layers, some wasn't as I was hot as a child/teen...fair skin, overheats easily thing. (And not overweight) Should I be concerned about the cold lingering?

Real Age test sounds interesting... Thanks for the BMI/ideal weight links Liana.

lisa32989
05-15-2014, 10:19 PM
Loved the blog post Maile. Thanks for sharing.

Lisa: your morning shake...are you still buying IP or doing an alternative version? I never had a problem getting in veggies so I never added spinach to a shake...does it make it more filling? Do you add about 1 cup spinach or more?

All: I've noticed that the 'being cold a lot - esp feet and nose' - is still happening even though I've been in maintenance a while. I was always more hot - excessively so - pre IP. And while some of it could have been the layers, some wasn't as I was hot as a child/teen...fair skin, overheats easily thing. (And not overweight) Should I be concerned about the cold lingering?.

I live my p1 shake. I use the milk choc with spinach. I wasn't having a problem getting in veggies but it does make it more filling

Have you ever had a full thyroid panel, just to be on the safe side?

Maile
05-16-2014, 08:15 AM
Vachinyc: I still have cold feet and often wear socks. That has not gone away..plus I can get cold in air conditioning. You might have tests done to be on the safe side.

Lisa: I liked those comments also. It is not just a diet but is a lifestyle dedicated to health and happiness. I also like her " showing up everyday" and treating it like a job.

Canadjineh: Those were good results on that age test. You are on the right track. I am going to have to try it. I also got rid of my large clothes..but do have a pair of slightly looser pants to wear when I need them!

Ruthann: I liked her ideas also. I really liked" I treat every day as another day to be my best self."

I am glad it is Friday!!!!! Thanks for your supportive comments.

lisa32989
05-16-2014, 01:40 PM
I am amazed that I am becoming so much more observant of how foods make me feel.

DH and I went out last nite and I had a couple indulgences (wine, hummus with some pita, falafel, and the brussels sprouts had a "sweeter" sauce). The bread was a mistake, even if it was just 1/2 of a pita. I felt the gluten sensitivity almost immediately. One day I will develop the willingness to avoid completely (I guess when I feel bad enough...kinda like the willingness it took to go on P1!)

DH has also been relatively low carb. Both of us felt the effects this am. He is blaming it all on high salt content. I reminded him that although sodium may explain some of it, increased carbs increase inflammation, which is water retention. I'm SUPER thirsty today. Easy to push the fluids to flush out. Also doing a p1 day (one day won't do thyroid harm).

Even my face feels puffy!
It amazes me how much we notice when we're back in tune with our bodies. I must have felt so crappy for so long that I never noticed the ill effects of bad food (or just poorer choices for me, personally) on a regular basis. We actually ate very healthy foods last evening...just more carbs and fat than usual and probably more sodium in more processed foods.

Feeling like I do today will DEFINITELY keep me more in check with eating on an ongoing basis. I have to be willing to have a day feeling like this to choose an indulgence.

I also noticed more than 1 glass of wine really went straight to my head. I'll mostly plan to keep a 1 drink max. I just FEEL better.

I'm so glad I've moved beyond "just" focusing on weight loss and I'm focusing on feeling good. I think this will really help me learn to maintain while we get the thyroid function back up-to-snuff.

Ruth Ann
05-17-2014, 07:38 AM
I've been noticing the same thing Lisa - I'm trying to pay attention to how I feel. I noticed the other night that I had 1/2 a glass of wine and it gave me a pounding headache - never had that issue before.

I'm pleasantly surprised at how I'm doing. I've been focusing mostly on keeping my protein up and making sure my "fat" meal and "carb" meal come out right. So far, so good. My scale is sticking to 135 like glue right now.

I also am surprised that I have had no problems with cravings. I had 1/2 cup of ice cream the other night and it was plenty. I knew it was on the menu, had planned it so it fit my calories, fat, carbs, etc. and looked forward to it, and enjoyed it, but once it was done I was happy.

This seems like it's going almost too well - like any minute my brain will say "eat all this" and I'll go hog wild. I haven't and there's been nothing that set that off in my brain but it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know? I suspect that in time this way of eating will become very routine, just like P1 did, and I will relax some but for right now being careful and tracking seems to work just fine.

Maile
05-17-2014, 08:37 AM
Lisa: I also found that when eating low carb, wine can have a stronger affect. I do not like water retention effects either!

RuthAnn, many of my cravings have gone. This way of eating has become a routine.

I indulged in Indian food last night which was definitely higher fat and high sodium. Now to work it off.

Ruth Ann
05-18-2014, 07:50 AM
Lisa: I also found that when eating low carb, wine can have a stronger affect. I do not like water retention effects either!

RuthAnn, many of my cravings have gone. This way of eating has become a routine.

I indulged in Indian food last night which was definitely higher fat and high sodium. Now to work it off.

Maile - I'm with you on the water retention. I hit it when I first started maintenance and the heaviness in my legs and ankles and gross bloated feeling is not one I wish to repeat.

I'm glad to hear that the loss of cravings continues. Dh decided he wanted grilled hamburgers last night - yeah! I still ate mine without a bun (but did have cheese on it) and made tater tots for him and roasted cabbage for me. I used to love tater tots but was really looking forward to the cabbage. Dh says I'm weird.

lisa32989
05-18-2014, 09:53 AM
Maile - I'm with you on the water retention. I hit it when I first started maintenance and the heaviness in my legs and ankles and gross bloated feeling is not one I wish to repeat.

I'm glad to hear that the loss of cravings continues. Dh decided he wanted grilled hamburgers last night - yeah! I still ate mine without a bun (but did have cheese on it) and made tater tots for him and roasted cabbage for me. I used to love tater tots but was really looking forward to the cabbage. Dh says I'm weird.

Weird? Join the club
I find what I crave most is feeling great

Ruth Ann
05-20-2014, 06:40 AM
Ugh! I hate seasonal allergies! Unfortunately my allergy medication gives me the hungries. However, this year I have decided that it's not really that I'm hungry, it's actually thirst. Before I always used it as an excuse to eat whatever I wanted since, you know, I was dealing with a medical condition. :) But I have found that lots of water and hot tea actually make me feel better. Score one for me!

Maile
05-20-2014, 08:06 AM
Ruthann,
If I am hungry I drink lots of hot herbal tea. It helps! I have never heard of roasting cabbage. How do you do it? I roast lots of other vegetables, but have never tried roasted cabbage.

Lisa..you do feel great when you eat healthy and stay on track. My energy is a lot higher!

IdealProteinNewbie
05-20-2014, 08:21 AM
Maile: Had to jump in...roasted cabbage is amazing! I make this but don't put the fennel seeds. I also add garlic powder. Delicious!

http://www.marthastewart.com/315062/roasted-cabbage-wedges

Ruth Ann
05-20-2014, 09:48 AM
Maile: Had to jump in...roasted cabbage is amazing! I make this but don't put the fennel seeds. I also add garlic powder. Delicious!

http://www.marthastewart.com/315062/roasted-cabbage-wedges

That's exactly what I do IPN! No fennel but lots of garlic. I like garlic!

And yep Maile, lots of hot herbal tea and really pour the water down. I think it helps my sinuses to stay super hydrated during this season - darn cottonwoods are really going this year, looks like it's snowing out there.

joysh
05-20-2014, 10:20 AM
Just popping in to say hi to you all. I also love roasted anything, cabbage included.

I've been out of town this week, so I haven't checked these boards. Still on P1 and feeling great. Getting back to where I belong, once again. Yesterday I went to the beach with a friend. Galveston. It was lovely.

I'm probably back to my goal weight, but my preferred weight is five pounds under, so I'm going to stay on P1 until I get there. It's been easier this time. And when I get home the pool will be open, so I'll start my swimming again. Hooray!

Hi to you all!

Ishbel
05-20-2014, 12:37 PM
Hey hey everyone!

Working off my iPhone so we'll see how this goes, especially since I cannot feel either hand anymore haha. I stopped coming here, it's hard to read your diets when I cannot eat that way right now (soon thou!). My gestational diabetes has been quite interesting. I struggle with low blood sugar so I eat A LOT of carbs now....sigh! Interestingly when I started adding carbs my fingers and hands started to go numb...correlation? I think so! Also, I've always thought that having GD and changing your diet helped slow the weight gain, yah apparently not if you struggle with low blood sugar. Que sera sera, I am growing a baby! Bright side is that IP really helped me with my mental muscle of saying "ok, not right now" and so far it's been healthy...I do miss frozen yogurt though and the odd licorice. There are already orders to get some when bebe is out! Ha!

I finished work on Friday and it feels weird that I'm not going to work but hopefully nugget stays put for another week so I can rest up.

Here are some photos...one is from my mat shoot and the other is today. You'll notice no head shot in today's....yup I'm free from doing my hair and make up for a while. Although I know I'll have to do it once in a while it's nice to not think about it.

Sorry this is about me, I haven't been keeping up. Just hard to read all the nice recipes that I have to wait to use! I'll be back soon! :)!

canadjineh
05-20-2014, 12:50 PM
Hey hey everyone!

Working off my iPhone so we'll see how this goes, especially since I cannot feel either hand anymore haha. I stopped coming here, it's hard to read your diets when I cannot eat that way right now (soon thou!). My gestational diabetes has been quite interesting. I struggle with low blood sugar so I eat A LOT of carbs now....sigh! Interestingly when I started adding carbs my fingers and hands started to go numb...correlation? I think so! Also, I've always thought that having GD and changing your diet helped slow the weight gain, yah apparently not if you struggle with low blood sugar. Que sera sera, I am growing a baby! Bright side is that IP really helped me with my mental muscle of saying "ok, not right now" and so far it's been healthy...I do miss frozen yogurt though and the odd licorice. There are already orders to get some when bebe is out! Ha!

I finished work on Friday and it feels weird that I'm not going to work but hopefully nugget stays put for another week so I can rest up.

Here are some photos...one is from my mat shoot and the other is today. You'll notice no head shot in today's....yup I'm free from doing my hair and make up for a while. Although I know I'll have to do it once in a while it's nice to not think about it.

Sorry this is about me, I haven't been keeping up. Just hard to read all the nice recipes that I have to wait to use! I'll be back soon! :)!

Have you talked to your doc or dietician about getting the RIGHT kinds of carbs to keep your blood sugar more even, not just raising it up. I'm not a professional on pregnancy by any means - my choice of no kids - but it seems that keeping things more level would be healthier than spiking & dropping. Maybe you are already doing that? If I'm totally out in left field, fill me in, I always like to learn something new... :dizzy:

Liana
btw, cute pix!

Ishbel
05-20-2014, 12:54 PM
All my carbs are the good ones from experience :) I floored the dietician and think I actually made her feel a little threatened by my knowledge of starches and my own body and how it reacts to certain foods. It was amusing :) ....and slightly empowering haha!

Don't get me wrong I'm not spiking it...it's pretty level I just have to eat way more carbs then I'm used too to keep it level. The OB and GP are impressed lol

canadjineh
05-20-2014, 01:07 PM
All my carbs are the good ones from experience :) I floored the dietician and think I actually made her feel a little threatened by my knowledge of starches and my own body and how it reacts to certain foods. It was amusing :) ....and slightly empowering haha!

Don't get me wrong I'm not spiking it...it's pretty level I just have to eat way more carbs then I'm used too to keep it level. The OB and GP are impressed lol

Good on you!! Glad to hear things are keeping level. Hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well and you have an easy labour! Thanks for the info.

ecdcslim
05-20-2014, 02:22 PM
Hi all, just checking in. Maile, your commitment always gives me such confidence that I can do this, thanks for all that you share. RuthAnn, I'm happy your maintenance is going well and you're attitude is so positive!

Still hanging in there, hair loss seems to have finally slowed, but wow, it's pretty significant. I had 3 days in a row last week where the slip-ups became full downhill slides so on day 4 I picked myself up and got back on P1 (some P2 meals but mostly P1). Tomorrow it'll be a week (did have a fun meal Sun night) and I'm planning on moving off to P2-3. So I binged, the scales showed a 4 lb weight gain after 4 days, back on P1 3 days and there went the 4 lbs. Now staying on P1 to roll off this week and will have a weigh in tomorrow (I only weigh on Weds and Sats). I am finding the sugar cravings hard, but what's so awesome is knowing that I can go back on P1 before the 4 lbs become 8 or 10 and maintain. I know I will be doing this for the rest of my life and I am deriving a tremendous amount of comfort knowing that I never need to lose control - tools are here to help me.

Ruth Ann
05-21-2014, 08:39 AM
Ishbel: Great pics and congrats on the soon-to-be-here baby! You must be so excited!

Thanks ecdcslim! Sounds like you are paying attention and I think that's a huge key in maintenance.

I may be paying too much attention but I figure once it becomes routine I will loosen up.

I realized last night that I no longer have to finish all my food. In P1 I ate everything on the plate/bowl/etc. because I needed to make sure to get everything in. I was having a big taco salad last night and was full about 3/4 of the way through and kept eating until I realized, I don't have to finish it if I don't want to.

Maile
05-21-2014, 08:40 AM
Ishbel: Hang in there. You are doing so well managing your GD and dealing with low blood sugar. This is the time to eat carbs and you are keeping that baby healthy. I am excited for you in your last week. I hope you rest up now that you are off from work. From your pictures, both mom and baby look great! You are using your resistance muscle that you developed to eat healthy for the baby. I can understand you staying away from the forum for now. Sending you warm thoughts and hugs to you and baby.

Ecdcslim: IP is the first program I have been on that actually gave me tools to maintain. The P1 is the best tool because it works. It does give you a very secure feeling to know that you can get those up pounds off fairly quickly..like you say before they escalate into 8 or 10. I also plan on using these tools for the rest of my life and not losing control. I look at maintenance as daily determination. I am glad your hair loss has slowed. You are doing great.

Joysh: Glad you are back at goal weight and working on going under. That cushion is nice.

IdealProteinNewbie and RuthAnn: Thanks for the recipe! I am going to try it as I love cabbage. Right now the asparagus are fresh from our fields around here and they are wonderful!

Ruthann: That was a good realization! The temptation is to keep eating when something tastes good, even if you are full. Good for you.

Canadjineh: Hope spring has hit British Columbia. We are planning a trip to Vancouver this summer.

Off for a walk before work. The kids do not want to be in school now.

bubbleblower
05-21-2014, 11:01 AM
Hi everyone! I haven't been keeping up with you at all lately, but I went back a few pages and it's great to see a lot of the same names and faces as well as a few new ones.

I've been maintaining well and still in my size 4 shorts. I find that's a better indicator of how I'm doing than the number on the scale sometimes. I had abdominal surgery to repair two hernias (umbilical and groin) in early May, and between swelling/fluid retention/lack of BM due to pain meds, etc. I watched my weight spike up almost immediately afterward. Thankfully it's pretty much back to normal but there's still a bit of swelling and things are quite tender to the touch.

I continue to steer clear of most grains (still GF) and high carb items, and that works best for me. I have another week or so before I can get back to exercising and I'm very much looking forward to that!!

Keep up the good work, everyone!!

drd1961
05-21-2014, 11:13 AM
I think I will be staying off the scale for awhile after surgery in July. I will already feel blah, and probably will not be able to wear normal clothes for a while. Seeing that spike will make me sad.

canadjineh
05-21-2014, 11:51 AM
Maile: Spring is definitely here - we have been out hiking and the arnica and Indian Paintbrush are lovely. Many have been out on the lake in kayaks and canoes (paddleboarding coming soon, unless you are quite hot blooded). Asparagus is our veg of choice too right now, as it is fresh from the fields around here as well! Sure makes for stinky pee though. Apparently the breakdown of the sulphurous amino acids is what happens within 15-30 minutes, but not everyone can smell it. http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/why-pee-smells-funny-eat-asparagus

I know, TMI, lol

Hope you enjoy your vacation out this way. We are headed to Kananaskis country and then a Relais & Chateaux boutique hotel in Calgary in about 2 weeks. We hope the weather is fine for hiking in the foothills of the Rockies...

Liana

Ruth Ann
05-21-2014, 11:59 AM
bubbleblower: Glad your surgery went well and wishing you a speedy recovery!

drd: I highly recommend staying off the scale after surgery! When I had hernia surgery I made the mistake of getting on the scale the next day - I was up about 8 pounds! I knew I didn't really gain that much, but it was shocking! (It was gone in a few days too).

Trying to schedule one more surgery in the near future and it is difficult - too much going on this summer. May have to put it off to fall as much as I don't want to and my doc will object.

SylviesGirl
05-21-2014, 12:24 PM
Hi everyone! I haven't been keeping up with you at all lately, but I went back a few pages and it's great to see a lot of the same names and faces as well as a few new ones.

I've been maintaining well and still in my size 4 shorts. I find that's a better indicator of how I'm doing than the number on the scale sometimes. I had abdominal surgery to repair two hernias (umbilical and groin) in early May, and between swelling/fluid retention/lack of BM due to pain meds, etc. I watched my weight spike up almost immediately afterward. Thankfully it's pretty much back to normal but there's still a bit of swelling and things are quite tender to the touch.

I continue to steer clear of most grains (still GF) and high carb items, and that works best for me. I have another week or so before I can get back to exercising and I'm very much looking forward to that!!

Keep up the good work, everyone!!

Bubbleblower! It is so good to see you! I was just thinking about you the other day. You were very supportive to me when I began last year. I'm glad you are doing so well, surgery and all. Keep feeling better and stop in now and then, when you get time! :)

drd1961
05-21-2014, 01:28 PM
bubbleblower: Glad your surgery went well and wishing you a speedy recovery!

drd: I highly recommend staying off the scale after surgery! When I had hernia surgery I made the mistake of getting on the scale the next day - I was up about 8 pounds! I knew I didn't really gain that much, but it was shocking! (It was gone in a few days too).

Trying to schedule one more surgery in the near future and it is difficult - too much going on this summer. May have to put it off to fall as much as I don't want to and my doc will object.
Yes, and I have been reading that swelling with THR can last up to 4 weeks. I am doing this July for the left and January for the right, so this time next year I should be right as rain. They called me yesterday and asked if I wanted to take a cancellation for next week. I said yikes, got too much to get off my plate before July to do that!

Nice thing is that my daughter should be able to come back about 4.5 weeks into recovery and I will not be working yet, but will probably feel well enough to enjoy her visit.

dak1lls
05-21-2014, 05:24 PM
just popped in to say "hi"! It sounds like everyone is doing well in maintenance. Nice to see everyone still posting. good luck on your surgery drd. i remember my surgery last year prompting me to begin this IP adventure. i wonder how much better i would feel having the surgery at a healthier weight and just a healthier me. hmmm. hopefully i won't find out.

ruth ann, hope you are able to schedule your surgery and get on to a speedy recovery soon.

bubbleblower, nice to see you and happy you are recovering. that sounds like quite the surgery.

i just can't believe that i have passed the one year mark since starting IP and I am maintaining and feeling so good. Yay!

i don't make it here often, but hang in there everyone.

hi maile!

canadjineh
05-21-2014, 10:42 PM
Yes, and I have been reading that swelling with THR can last up to 4 weeks. I am doing this July for the left and January for the right, so this time next year I should be right as rain. They called me yesterday and asked if I wanted to take a cancellation for next week. I said yikes, got too much to get off my plate before July to do that!

Nice thing is that my daughter should be able to come back about 4.5 weeks into recovery and I will not be working yet, but will probably feel well enough to enjoy her visit.

Get your ortho to send you into the pool with physio as soon as stitches heal and you can be getting stronger sooner and even getting a bit of a workout later and back on plan too. I was a Physio Rehab Assistant for 25 yrs before I retired, talk to your docs right away. The sooner you get busy with physio especially low-weight bearing in the water the better your recovery will be.
Best wishes... :getwell:

Liana

drd1961
05-21-2014, 10:56 PM
Get your ortho to send you into the pool with physio as soon as stitches heal and you can be getting stronger sooner and even getting a bit of a workout later and back on plan too. I was a Physio Rehab Assistant for 25 yrs before I retired, talk to your docs right away. The sooner you get busy with physio especially low-weight bearing in the water the better your recovery will be.
Best wishes... :getwell:

Liana

I intend to begin the water since right now I swim 10,000 yards a week. My ortho is a sports med guy.

canadjineh
05-21-2014, 11:05 PM
I intend to begin the water since right now I swim 10,000 yards a week. My ortho is a sports med guy.

Well, there you go, then! When we first moved to our area, I made sure all my new docs were into healthy lifestyles and sports themselves, then they'd know where I was coming from if I wanted to get right back at 'er ASAP...

:D

Ruth Ann
05-22-2014, 08:32 AM
dak1lls - good to see you and congrats on the 1 year! I hear you on wishing you'd done this before surgery - I had a spinal fusion in 2012 and I wonder how much easier recovery would have been if I'd lost the weight beforehand.

drd - wish you all the best with your surgery and be sure to keep us informed on how you're doing!

drd1961
05-22-2014, 09:27 AM
Well, there you go, then! When we first moved to our area, I made sure all my new docs were into healthy lifestyles and sports themselves, then they'd know where I was coming from if I wanted to get right back at 'er ASAP...

:D

My GP runs all the time. I often see him running past my house in the evening. It is good to have someone who understands how important exercise is to me.

Tisado
05-22-2014, 10:09 AM
HI gals,
Looks like you are all on track and doing well.
I'm still hanging in, but tend to overeat followed by week of P1/P2.
I know it's not a good long term solution but that's what it is for now.

I keep telling myself that at least I am stopping before I get over "that" number. It's a little yo yo, but I am not letting myself do the big yo yo thing again.

I have good foods lined up for the holiday weekend so will be OP. We are going to be at an 3-day event and I was the one that planned the menus. Ha! Burger in a bowl one night and steak the next. Yes!!

canadjineh
05-22-2014, 11:34 AM
Good for you, Tisado, for not letting things get too out of hand. I've had a few days of 170g+ carbs and have noticed that I have been craving things I don't normally get that interested in (eveningtimes) like Craisins which we put in our cereal occasionally. Soooo, I think that is a sign that I need to get 'er back to 150g or less. I probably won't do the pea soup, vegetarian chili with rice, and quinoa all in one day again, lol. :o

I'm going to get back to the focus on protein and quality veg carbs again, but I've just been too lazy and taken the easy way out these past few days. I usually love cooking, but haven't felt like doing veggie prep lately. Time to kick myself in the butt, lol :kickbutt:. Luckily, after training in the pool and stretch classes, I am flexible enough to do that, hahaha.

Liana

Hawaii69
05-23-2014, 10:30 AM
HI gals,
Looks like you are all on track and doing well.
I'm still hanging in, but tend to overeat followed by week of P1/P2.
I know it's not a good long term solution but that's what it is for now.

I keep telling myself that at least I am stopping before I get over "that" number. It's a little yo yo, but I am not letting myself do the big yo yo thing again.

I have good foods lined up for the holiday weekend so will be OP. We are going to be at an 3-day event and I was the one that planned the menus. Ha! Burger in a bowl one night and steak the next. Yes!!

It sounds like you are doing well. We all do what works for us. And the advice is to not let yourself get above a certain number, so yo yoing is what we'll be doing. I'm working at keeping within the 5lbs and also, when I exercise I tend to tone and build muscle so the measurements are the same but the scale may be different. Keep up the good work. It seems to be working for you!

Maile
05-24-2014, 08:40 AM
Hawaii69: You are right. Building muscle can affect the scale. In Refuse to Regain the author calls your weight that you refuse to get above, the Scream weight.
Tisado: good for you..staying in your range. Thank goodness P1/2 works.

Canadjineh: There are simply times when you coast along and take things easier. I was staying at the top end of my range for awhile and finally got myself motivated to get back down.
I like the Indian paintbrush also. We have them in our mountains. I hope the weather is good for your vacation and that you get lots of hiking in.
That article was funny about the sense of smell and asparagus.

DRD: Good luck on that surgery. I would stay off the scale afterwards also.

RuthAnn: I made that roasted cabbage and liked it. I am a spice person and added the caraway seeds. Thanks for the recipe. I hope you get your surgeru scheduled and that it goes well.

Dak1lls: One year of maintenance is an accomplishment. Congratulations! You sound happy and positive.

Bubbleblower: It was good to hear from you. I hope your recovery is going well from your surgeries. I am glad you will be able to get back to exercise next week. Continuing to fit size 4 is great.

I am looking forward to the long weekend. Time to work on the yard.

Ruth Ann
05-24-2014, 11:35 PM
Sounds like everyone is doing well! Makes me feel more secure except that today I was just tired of planning, cooking, etc., etc. Just one of those days. I didn't do bad, just not as careful and organized as I usually am.

Just hope the funk doesn't continue - I really don't like feeling like I could eat everything in the house and not really care. If you know what I mean.

Hawaii69
05-25-2014, 09:16 AM
Sounds like everyone is doing well! Makes me feel more secure except that today I was just tired of planning, cooking, etc., etc. Just one of those days. I didn't do bad, just not as careful and organized as I usually am.

Just hope the funk doesn't continue - I really don't like feeling like I could eat everything in the house and not really care. If you know what I mean.

I hear you Ruth Ann! I have the same type of days! I don't know if its on days that I'm tired, or its hormones or just my mood. But, that is life sometimes! I was just thinking the other day that maintenance is all about work and planning still, we all know that. But, following the diet was easier sometimes in the sense we could white knuckle it through, but I was telling myself that I will have those same 'white knuckle' days in maintenance too. But, we deal with each day that comes and do the best we can!

Maille: Thanks for your thoughts. You are always so positive and have great advice and I appreciate your words of wisdom. You are a good example to follow!

Ruth Ann
05-25-2014, 10:49 AM
Thanks Hawaii! Good to know I'm not just weird. I thought getting the weight off would be the hard work - boy was it a surprise to find I have to truly think more carefully in maintenance. I suppose once I've been on for a longer period it will get more routine and easier.

The good news is that my scale is staying exactly the same for the most part - sometimes a pound up, sometimes a pound down. So I count that as a victory!

And I second your thanks to Maile - such a good example. I want to be just like her when I grow up. :D

Ishbel
05-25-2014, 02:06 PM
Ah maile! I miss you and your generous posts!

I've had my baby...I didn't know what I was having and am thrilled to have a daughter! Heidi Catherine Iris was born 23 May 14 7lbs 8.5 oz 19 inches long and at 420 pm. She was born via emergency c-section but she wasn't in distress thankfulky. I'm in love!! I absolutely love watching my VIP fall in love with her....she's got him wrapped around her finger already! Sucker! Haha!

Happy to see that my GD is gone, had a breakfast with a banana that would have spiked me and it did nothing of the sort...whoop whoop!

Can't wait to be back to eating the way I want...not getting on the scale for a month! :)!

mars735
05-25-2014, 02:20 PM
:bday2you: Heidi Catherine Iris, and Congratulations to you Ishbel & VIP! I'm so thrilled to hear your news!!! :hug::congrat:

Hiker88
05-25-2014, 02:54 PM
Congratulations Ishbel!! How wonderful! I've missed your posts and look forward to hearing your experiences as a new mother!!

Ruth Ann
05-25-2014, 04:22 PM
Congrats Ishbel! That is wonderful news!

lisa32989
05-25-2014, 07:26 PM
:yay::congrat:
A baby girl!'
So happy for you!

canadjineh
05-26-2014, 01:30 AM
Congrats, Ishbel...so glad GD is gone! Probably because you were taking such good care of yourself during this time. Welcome to the 'new chick-let.'

Liana

Maile
05-26-2014, 08:58 AM
Ishbel: I am so happy for you! Welcome Heidi Catherine Iris! How exciting to have a lovely baby daughter! I am glad your c-section went well and that your GD is gone! I miss you also but know that you will love this precious time with your newborn. Please post a picture when your life quiets down. Hugs.

bubbleblower
05-26-2014, 07:56 PM
I think I will be staying off the scale for awhile after surgery in July. I will already feel blah, and probably will not be able to wear normal clothes for a while. Seeing that spike will make me sad.

That's a really good idea! I was shocked when I first got on the scale, and even though I knew it was the IV and the swelling, it still got me concerned.

I highly recommend staying off the scale after surgery! When I had hernia surgery I made the mistake of getting on the scale the next day - I was up about 8 pounds! I knew I didn't really gain that much, but it was shocking! (It was gone in a few days too).

Trying to schedule one more surgery in the near future and it is difficult - too much going on this summer. May have to put it off to fall as much as I don't want to and my doc will object.

That was me! I also eventually need to have one of my knees replaced but I'll be putting that off as long as I possibly can. I've seen enough doctors in the last year to last me for the next ten! I'm anxious to get back into exercising and probably will start with some pool work tomorrow. I'm supposed to go diving in early June and will probably be able to do that as long as I put my gear on and take it off in the water.

Bubbleblower! It is so good to see you! I was just thinking about you the other day. You were very supportive to me when I began last year. I'm glad you are doing so well, surgery and all. Keep feeling better and stop in now and then, when you get time! :)

Thanks so much!! I really miss everyone here. I'm still not able to sit at the computer for long stretches, and in some ways that has been a good thing. ;)


Bubbleblower: It was good to hear from you. I hope your recovery is going well from your surgeries. I am glad you will be able to get back to exercise next week. Continuing to fit size 4 is great.


Thanks, Maile! I always look forward to reading your posts. There's so much good info and always a balanced view of things. And yes, I'm thrilled about still being in the same size shorts. That's my true test, more than any number on a scale.

And thanks to everyone else for the well wishes. I'm still tender at the incision sites but doing better each day. I just want to get back to my new normal, enjoying being healthy and fit.

And last, but not least, CONGRATS Ishbel!! That's wonderful news!

Ruth Ann
05-27-2014, 07:56 AM
bubbleblower: Glad to hear you are doing well and healing nicely!

Quick question - had my first real "fun" meal last night. Didn't go overboard (had a brat on a bun and 1/2 a cup of potato salad and an ice cream sandwich) but today my scale is reading exactly the same and I have no bloating, etc. I'm still planning a low carb day but is it really necessary if it causes no change? Too early to text my coach (she's a doll and all but 5 a.m. texts are a little much in my opinion!).

Don't plan on doing it often but just a little confused (so what else is new?).

canadjineh
05-27-2014, 12:28 PM
bubbleblower: Glad to hear you are doing well and healing nicely!

Quick question - had my first real "fun" meal last night. Didn't go overboard (had a brat on a bun and 1/2 a cup of potato salad and an ice cream sandwich) but today my scale is reading exactly the same and I have no bloating, etc. I'm still planning a low carb day but is it really necessary if it causes no change? Too early to text my coach (she's a doll and all but 5 a.m. texts are a little much in my opinion!).

Don't plan on doing it often but just a little confused (so what else is new?).

When it's like that for me, I just do a P1 breakfast and lunch and reg maint dinner. Seems to work OK so far - I don't usually do a whole day of "Fun", since I'm usually satisfied with just a specific meal that I have been wanting that isn't smart for maintenance.
Tell us what you decided and how it goes... :D

Ruth Ann
05-27-2014, 12:42 PM
When it's like that for me, I just do a P1 breakfast and lunch and reg maint dinner. Seems to work OK so far - I don't usually do a whole day of "Fun", since I'm usually satisfied with just a specific meal that I have been wanting that isn't smart for maintenance.
Tell us what you decided and how it goes... :D

Yeah, I think a fun day would be too much for me! That's why I limited it to dinner. Although next weekend we're going to the ballgame with friends we haven't seen in a year and dh was listing all the food I could have at the stadium that I wasn't eating last year - I told him I'd get very, very sick if I ate all that, how about he gets it all and I'll just taste his? :D

So what I decided to do today is drop my carbs down to below 35 net (kind of an arbitrary number) but I didn't like how the protein came out so I added some protein (had PT this morning and always take extra protein after that). A hard boiled egg, 4 oz of meat and a carb-master yogurt. So kind of a hybrid.

Hawaii69
05-27-2014, 06:12 PM
I had a 'fun weekend' the other weekend when we were camping but am now back on plan. I always feel so much better eating protein and vegies and fewer healthy carbs. My tummy is better and my energy is better. I am definately less bloated and even my skin is clearer. Such a healthy way to eat!

Hawaii69
05-27-2014, 06:14 PM
Congrads Ishbel! You will love having a daughter! They are precious!

canadjineh
05-27-2014, 08:48 PM
I had a 'fun weekend' the other weekend when we were camping but am now back on plan. I always feel so much better eating protein and vegies and fewer healthy carbs. My tummy is better and my energy is better. I am definately less bloated and even my skin is clearer. Such a healthy way to eat!

Hi T: Say a big hello to Pam & Josh when they get back to GP if I don't see them at the hall Thursday night. ;)
Liana

Hawaii69
05-27-2014, 11:48 PM
Hi T: Say a big hello to Pam & Josh when they get back to GP if I don't see them at the hall Thursday night. ;)
Liana

Ok! I will definitely do that liana! Take care!

Ruth Ann
05-28-2014, 07:49 AM
I had a 'fun weekend' the other weekend when we were camping but am now back on plan. I always feel so much better eating protein and vegies and fewer healthy carbs. My tummy is better and my energy is better. I am definately less bloated and even my skin is clearer. Such a healthy way to eat!

I'm with you Hawaii! I ended up doing pretty much a P2 day yesterday and was down 2 lbs this morning - yeah me!

I think what confused me is that I really expected yesterday to be up and feeling bad after the fun meal, but I didn't - felt like I might have had too much sodium but that's it. I really think I am going to have to watch myself and make sure I don't get into the mindset of "well, it didn't effect me last time so I can do more of it this time" - if that makes sense.

As 65 said in another thread, maintenance is harder than losing!

Maile
05-28-2014, 08:32 AM
RuthAnn: I am glad you did not gain from your fun meal and even went down. It is good to eat conservatively the next day, even if it did not show up on the scale. Sometimes I have gone down the next day but have gone up the day after.

Here are some reflections:

Am I Really Keeping these 100 pounds off? Enjoying Healthy Habits.

There is a sense of unreality at times in maintenance. As I head into my 3rd summer of maintenance, I tell myself, "You are really are doing this. You really are keeping this weight off." This is the most self confident and stable that I have felt in years or perhaps ever.

My views on things have changed. I realize that I have started to enjoy my healthy habits. They have become a part of my life.
When I was losing my weight, I purposely began an exercise regime with the goal of burning calories, not for enjoyment. Now I find that I really like to walk or workout at the gym. I also find that exercise is the best way for me to feel happier and to work off stress.

When I was losing weight I started to eat more vegetables and lean protein. I did not like vegetables nor plain lean protein very much. Over the years I discovered ethnic spicy cooking. I have found a whole new world of vegetable dishes. I am now eating them because I enjoy them.

A consideration is that the skills developed in maintenance, serve as tools for other aspects of your life. I think this is true. The strength you develop from overcoming an addiction, gives you strength in facing other challenges in life. I know that I am happier and more self confident is many more areas of my life, outside of health. I have lost that depression and despair that accompanied obesity.

Last, as I continue to maintain, I continue to value the online support. It is another healthy habit.
So, yes, I really am keeping those 100 pounds off and I am going to continue to enjoy my healthy habits.

Ruth Ann
05-28-2014, 09:04 AM
Thank you Maile! Your great wisdom and perspective are much appreciated and help clarify in my mind what I am feeling.

I know I can do this - I just lost 120+ pounds, I can do anything! But new eating habits, even if I really am enjoying them, can be scary and there's always this little voice in the back of my mind doubting that I can maintain the loss. A little self-doubt might be a good thing - help keep me in check!

Hawaii69
05-28-2014, 09:28 AM
Maile: Thanks so much for your insight, and it really makes sense. Our body craves healthy food and to feel good. And I've come to hate feeling 'bloated'. Its so uncomfortable. Just a few days of healthy eating and the bloating disapears! And you are right, exercise does so much for a person. I call it my therapy.

Ruth Ann, its so true. A person has to realize that while there is more freedom on maintenance, the same rules apply. I am learning that still. I am happy to say the lbs from not making great choices have gone. Now to keep it where it is! Herb tea was my friend on the diet especially at night and its definately helping me in maintenance.

bubbleblower
05-28-2014, 11:21 AM
When it's like that for me, I just do a P1 breakfast and lunch and reg maint dinner. Seems to work OK so far - I don't usually do a whole day of "Fun", since I'm usually satisfied with just a specific meal that I have been wanting that isn't smart for maintenance.
Tell us what you decided and how it goes... :D

That's what I do as well. I never do a full 'fun' day. I think it would make me sick if I did! LOL. But after weekends like the last one with lots of smoked babyback ribs and red wine, I do a modified P1/P2 day to get things back to normal.

Ruth Ann
05-28-2014, 11:37 AM
Okay - you guys can laugh at me. Went in for bi-weekly weigh in. Freaked when the scale said 136. Coach looks at me & says "Ruth Ann, you're up 6 ounces in 2 weeks - get a grip!" :dizzy: That's what I get for never paying attention to anything after the 1st 3 numbers!

joysh
05-28-2014, 11:47 AM
Ishbel, :congrat:
So happy to hear that you have a daughter and that all went well! I was wondering if the baby arrived yet! Enjoy every moment! I just spent a few days with one of my daughters and HER twin 3-yr old daughters! Life is a wonderful journey!

Thanks for your words, Maille!

RuthAnn, you can do this!

I'm doing fine. Still on my P1 reboot, although over the weekend I did P2. Did not gain nor lose, so now I will continue to get the last 5 pounds off. I had gained 15 and am down 10. It feels great to take care of this now, at the beginning of summer- and before it gets out of hand. My summer clothes are fitting now and I'm excited that the pool is now open so I can resume swimming once these rains cease.

Warm hellos to you all!

LizRR
05-28-2014, 09:57 PM
I'm here! Oh my...congrats on your little girl Ishbel! That is so exciting, my own baby Payton is 8 mo now, time flies when your snuggling! I am so happy for you!

patns
05-29-2014, 12:44 AM
I have been checking in here every once in a while to see if Isbel had good news; finally, wonderful news!!! Congratulations and enjoy this special time.
And so good to see that other special mommy popping in too. Great to see you Liz!

Maile, I hope your end of year is going well. We go right to the last day in June, but I am better on top of all my paperwork this year than most years at this time. I saw that you are planning to visit Vancouver this summer. If possible I would suggest trying to get to Victoria too, one of my very favorite cities. I went to Portland OR last month for a few days and really liked that too.

lisa32989
05-29-2014, 07:47 AM
Random thoughts I've been having...

Its weird when you stop losing weight (at least for me) that you start feeling like you're GAINING, even when you're not. It's been like my body was so used to dropping weight, it became the norm and it feels weird to not be losing.

I keep telling myself I've gained all this weight w/o scale knowledge. This whole tyroid thing has made me scale phobic again b/c my weight can really jump around and I don't take it well.

But you know what? My smallest clothes fit.
Things I bought for the summer fit.
I'm not buying new, bigger sizes.

Someday my head will catch up. In the meantime, I think I'll read some of the books Malle has suggested. I've kept a list. And work on accepting the huge scale fluctuations. It's just gonna be part of it for me for a while. I need to get used to it.

Hawaii69
05-29-2014, 11:07 AM
Random thoughts I've been having...

Its weird when you stop losing weight (at least for me) that you start feeling like you're GAINING, even when you're not. It's been like my body was so used to dropping weight, it became the norm and it feels weird to not be losing.

I keep telling myself I've gained all this weight w/o scale knowledge. This whole tyroid thing has made me scale phobic again b/c my weight can really jump around and I don't take it well.

But you know what? My smallest clothes fit.
Things I bought for the summer fit.
I'm not buying new, bigger sizes.

Someday my head will catch up. In the meantime, I think I'll read some of the books Malle has suggested. I've kept a list. And work on accepting the huge scale fluctuations. It's just gonna be part of it for me for a while. I need to get used to it.

You aren't alone Lisa because I've been feeling the same way, I'll go into panic mode thinking all the weight is coming back on. I texted my coach the other day about it. She told me to go more by my measurements then the scale as I'm exercising now. And she's right, my measurements are staying pretty much the same and my clothes are feeling good. Sometimes I just need that reassurance!

drd1961
05-29-2014, 11:32 AM
Random thoughts I've been having...

Its weird when you stop losing weight (at least for me) that you start feeling like you're GAINING, even when you're not. It's been like my body was so used to dropping weight, it became the norm and it feels weird to not be losing.

I keep telling myself I've gained all this weight w/o scale knowledge. This whole tyroid thing has made me scale phobic again b/c my weight can really jump around and I don't take it well.

But you know what? My smallest clothes fit.
Things I bought for the summer fit.
I'm not buying new, bigger sizes.

Someday my head will catch up. In the meantime, I think I'll read some of the books Malle has suggested. I've kept a list. And work on accepting the huge scale fluctuations. It's just gonna be part of it for me for a while. I need to get used to it.
Yes, this!

Maile
05-30-2014, 08:32 AM
DRD1961, Hawaii69 and Lisa32989: Although I am pretty happy most of the time, I still have days when I feel fat! I use my clothes as a reminder and tell myself..this is ridiculous. You are not fat if you are fitting size 6. Fortunately those days are decreasing.but definitely are emotion scars from being overweight for years.
I think using clothes as a measure is a good idea!

Hawaii69: Thanks for your support. I also think exercise is therapy for me. It does make you feel better when you eat better. Herbal tea is a main part of my life as well.

Lisa32989: That scale fluctuation with your thyroid issue can be hard. Hopefully you will see a pattern and get more used to it.

LizRR: It was lovely to see your post! You must be enjoying that 8 month old baby. Are you still running?

Joysh: Congrats on that 10 pound loss. You are on your way.

Ruthann: That was amusing about the ounces. I used to wear my absolute lightest clothes for weigh ins. I know you will figure this maintenance out!

Patns: Victoria is one of my favorite cities. It is charming and has lovely restaurants. Wow you have a long school year until the end of June.

NaeNae2113
05-30-2014, 09:04 AM
Good Morning All..
Although I am not in maintenance, I read this thread every day. I get great advice and motivation from those of you that have been successful at this. I have been OP for six weeks and lost 20 lbs and 19 inches..this to me is unbelievable as I have never been able to say on a plan for this long. I appreciate all of you who post your successes, failures and everything else that you face as you maintain your weight loss. I can see that maintenance is much harder than the actual weigh loss phase. Thank you all and much success as you live your life in your new bodies!!!:hug::hug:

LizRR
05-31-2014, 09:00 PM
Mailie, I am still running. Not as much or as far as I'd like, but usually 4 miles 3x/week. I joined myfitnesspal with my coworkers and have been recommitted to losing these last 20lb of baby weight. I am still nursing, but she is also eating 2x/day so I am not as worried about my supply dropping like when she was exclusively on my milk. Its tough to run in the mornings, now I have to wake up that extra hour to pump and prepare bottles before running...usually snooze a little, but that means less mileage.

Maile
06-02-2014, 10:06 AM
Lizrr: You are amazing that you are getting running in while still nursing. Joining myfitnesspal with your co-workers is a good plan. I really find that using my pedometer has motivated me to get more exercise. I know you will lose those baby pounds in good time!

Naenae: Thanks for the encouragement. Losing 20 pounds is great. IP does work.

canadjineh
06-02-2014, 11:31 AM
Good goin' LizRR! I used to run, but now it just hurts... so I don't. I can't imagine breast feeding boobs on a run - just ouch, lol. Even if you are squeezed to death by a good running bra...:o
Liana

LizRR
06-03-2014, 01:34 AM
Lol...yeah, I have to time running just right with breastfeeding boobs! Luckily I have great supportive running bras. My daughter has been eating for about a month now and I am starting to focus more on my diet.

Tonight was Indian - rogan josh (beef instead of lamb) with cauliflower rice. An onion, kale, tomato paste, spices, grass fed stew meat, w/some almond milk. Its really filling, but low calorie and all organic/grass fed. Tomorrow is roasted chicken with rutabaga and celery, I also make stock from the bones/carcass. I told my husband if we are going to spend extra money on pasture raised poultry I am using all of that bird!

lisa32989
06-03-2014, 05:53 AM
Tonight was Indian - rogan josh (beef instead of lamb) with cauliflower rice. An onion, kale, tomato paste, spices, grass fed stew meat, w/some almond milk. Its really filling, but low calorie and all organic/grass fed. Tomorrow is roasted chicken with rutabaga and celery, I also make stock from the bones/carcass. I told my husband if we are going to spend extra money on pasture raised poultry I am using all of that bird!

I hear ya there! After doing some reading on the healing effects of bone broth, I make it frequently! And the best kind is from pastured animals who have not fed on GMO corn.

Your menus and recipes always sound delightful.

Ruth Ann
06-03-2014, 08:19 AM
Sounds like everyone is doing well!

I need to get a bit more creative - have tons of recipes and ideas but have been so slammed it's easy to just do the old familiar stuff. Been getting ready to move our office the end of the month along with all the regular work, just haven't had a chance. Dh usually does a bunch of the cooking but he hasn't been up to it lately so..... That's how it goes sometimes.

But maintenance is going well - staying stable and making good choices. Trying to keep upping my exercise, getting there slowly. I've never been an exerciser but I know I need to and am forcing myself into it hoping it becomes a habit!

Maile
06-03-2014, 12:15 PM
Ruthann: I am glad your maintenance is going well. Good job on upping the exercise and turning it into a habit. Cooking does take time! Hope your move goes well.

Lisa32: It pays to spend the money on organic grass fed beef.

Lizrr: Have you posted that rogan josh recipe somewhere? I find it interesting that you use almond milk instead of coconut milk. I love Indian food and cauliflower rice.

I am cooking Indian lamb popsicles tonight.

canadjineh
06-03-2014, 01:49 PM
I've never tried Rogan Josh with almond milk, might have to do this if I want a lot of rice that night, lol. I really do love a good coconut gravy tho, I usually make this a fat meal with a very creamy 11% Greek yogourt raita and extra veggies - no rice (sometimes shiritaki noodles).

Needing some savoury good Indian food - time for my midmorning snack anyhow. I had tuna with Hot Lime Pickle this morning for breakfast on my gluten free toast.

DH & I watched a sweet little Brewer's Blackbird fledgling on the lawn yesterday. I thought it was a chunk of steel wool on the lawn when I came home, but when I went over to pick it up, it blinked at me! Papa & mama were watching carefully from the fir tree, so I only got within a few feet of it so as not to scare them. I did the "chirk" sound that they make and the baby perked up and "chirk"ed back as did the parents who got all excited. We watched them all hop around on the lawn (from the deck) and the parents gathered food while the baby made incessant demands, the little beggar!

I hope they are all OK today, there are cats around the neighbourhood so I worry a bit, but now we can remove the nest from under our eaves at the back corner of the house.

Hope your day is going on plan, everyone.
Liana

Maile
06-04-2014, 08:15 AM
I love coconut milk curries. I just made one last night. Yes, it is high fat but worth it. I also like raita.

Are you making your own hot lime pickles? That sounds good with tuna. I have been putting pickled jalapenos in my tuna.

I have never made Rogan Josh and am going to look for a recipe.

That was cute about that baby blackbird chirking back. I am enjoying watching our hummingbirds and finches feed out the window.

Hawaii69
06-04-2014, 08:41 AM
All that food sounds so good! I think that I need to be more creative in the kitchen as well. I'm just past two months of maintenance and am still learning what works, scale moves up and down and feel that I'm getting the hang of it better. My measurements stay similiar so am very happy about that. I keep thinking of all the things that I learned when I was on P1 and the good advice from the videos. And its very helpful to have this forum. I keep reminding myself, 'you can't go back to how you ate before', its a life change. I look forward to my year anniversary of maintenance and to continue on, as many of you have experienced.

Jenny38
06-04-2014, 09:04 AM
Hello all,

I have been thinking about maintenance since starting this diet but now seriously shifting into that mode. My highest weight was 305, started IP at 282 (did the first 25 the year before). Originally I picked 180 as goal but have moved it to 170. My plan was to move to phase 2 at 170 and see if I could still drop more weight, maybe another 5 or 7. Did you lose on phase 2? I have been exercising throughout so i would mot be adding that on. In the last 4 weeks I have increased exercise as I start to train for a 10km in July.

I will start reading this thread from the beginning and I look forward to participating in this forum. They say being part of a group helps keep the wrought off, I could not agree more.

ecdcslim
06-04-2014, 02:42 PM
Hi ladies, I always realize how much I miss your advice and sharing when I come back to this forum!

Ishbel - congrats on your new little bundle of love! So happy your system has bounced back and the GD isn't a problem.

Lisa- loved your commentary about feeling like you're gaining if you're not losing. Sometimes I don't believe the scale, I go into my closet and try on my tightest skirt.

RuthAnn - your post about the 6 ounces made me laugh. My 'scream' weight is anything over 137 so I do watch that -I'm finding that I really like the way I look and feel at 133 but it's hard to stay there when I get there.

Canadjineh - I've been struggling for a guideline for max carbs per day so was happy to see your post and will work to stay under 150 gr - assume that's total, including veg carbs w/o subtracting the fiber?

Maile - I use you as my guiding star - you're eating well, tasty food, you've kept the weight-off and you're still so engaged. I calms me to so much, your steady optimistic approach.

Hawii69, I bought a pair of size 4 shorts and can't believe they fit, still getting used to the new me.

This is my journey, I have up days and down, still fighting the extreme sugar cravings (sitting in a meeting, just ate 3, yep, count 'em 3 white chocolate macadamia nut cookies OMG) but not beating myself. I've maintained since 1/18, and I've finally got a closet with all 'skinny' clothes - nothing that is too big. But I still see a chubby belly and fat arms when I look in the mirror, which makes me sad and mad at the same time, lol.

drd1961
06-04-2014, 06:27 PM
I think the image thing is the hardest thing. I am pulling on size 6 and sometimes size 4 pants, but I still feel somedays that they look like the 12's and 14's I was wearing. Maybe I should have kept one pair. Maintenance is a teeter totter. If you totter too high, you reign in what you are doing to bring it back down. I have some big challenges ahead, I really want to make this work!

Maile
06-05-2014, 09:21 AM
drd1961: I know you can make this work. This is the first time I have kept my weight off for more than two years. Planning ahead for those big challenges coming up might help. There are definitely those days when you still don't believe that you are fitting size 6!

ecdslim: That is great that you have kept your maintenance goals since January. You are on your way to the one year mark! Sugar can be a strong temptation. at least you stopped at 3.

Hawaii69: I always like the comment that returning to old habits produces old results. I do not want those old results of weight again. Your two months of maintenance is going well and you are finding your own tools to maintain.,

I have been entertaining my son and friends for three days. It is time to cut back and eat low low carb!

lisa32989
06-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Happy throwback Thursday. I have been doing some reflecting today. And what I realized is that two summers ago I started on this journey to lose weight.

First, I took off 90 pounds in about 10 months. Then I started working on getting stronger and getting rid of my back pain. The past year has been about maintaining and increasing strength (and trying not to be frustrated about my thyroid)

For the next leg of my journey I plan to focus on fitness. Today I went to a beginners spinning class. I am far from a beginner, but it has been a long time since I've been to a spinning class.

A year ago my back could not handle 15 minutes on the spinning bike (for that matter, I couldn't in November, either). I couldn't do planks because they hurt my back.

Today I did a 45-minute spinning class. I am also participating in a 30 day abs challenge to increase core strength more (working toward 90-second planks at the moment). What I learned today in spinning class was that on my continued journey I also need to work on rebuilding endurance.

I am now strong enough and without pain enough to be able to do these things. If losing the remainder of my weight is going to stay a challenge for right now, then I can focus on my fitness. It will help me to continue to be healthier and healthier and slow the aging process. It will also give me another positive focus, much like losing weight has been a positive focus for me . And who knows? It might even help reduce my weight a little bit.

JLUS
06-05-2014, 09:13 PM
AWESOME reflections Lisa!

Wishing you continued successes on all your journeys!

Ruth Ann
06-05-2014, 09:38 PM
Isn't it amazing Lisa how much different we feel? I'm working on fitness now and it's going so slow but, just like with losing the weight, I have to remember I didn't get into this shape overnight and I'm not going to get to the level I want to be instantly.

My physical therapist thinks I'm doing great and I certainly feel better - I stand up straighter and the really painful days are getting further and further apart Still have some very rough days and by the end of the day I'm still not in great shape but it's getting better. I'm walking a mile a day and increasing it as I can, doing some work with light weights, stretches, core work, and upper body work. Can't believe the difference it makes in how I feel.

Looking forward to the day I can be done with PT and into some fun classes - but right now I still need adult supervision!

Maile
06-06-2014, 08:11 AM
Ruthann. You are making good progress with that PT. I am glad your pain is getting less and farther apart.

Lisa: That was an inspirational reflection. You have made amazing progress. I have heard that the spinning class is a hard one, but is very good. I also found that exercise was another positive focus in my life.

Last day of students. Hooray.

Ruth Ann
06-06-2014, 08:15 AM
Thanks Maile! Good luck on the last day of students and then go do something nice for yourself!

lisa32989
06-06-2014, 11:00 AM
Isn't it amazing Lisa how much different we feel? I'm working on fitness now and it's going so slow but, just like with losing the weight, I have to remember I didn't get into this shape overnight and I'm not going to get to the level I want to be instantly.

My physical therapist thinks I'm doing great and I certainly feel better - I stand up straighter and the really painful days are getting further and further apart Still have some very rough days and by the end of the day I'm still not in great shape but it's getting better. I'm walking a mile a day and increasing it as I can, doing some work with light weights, stretches, core work, and upper body work. Can't believe the difference it makes in how I feel.

Looking forward to the day I can be done with PT and into some fun classes - but right now I still need adult supervision!
I view my past year as strength building, both muscle strength and emotional strength -over food & overeating!
Now that I've built some strength, it is time for me to ramp up fitness & endurance.
Again and again, I just can't believe how far I let myself go :p
Thank goodness a friend lost weight on IP and I got jealous!

So, after my spin class yesterday, the endorphins were kicked up all day! I had to take a lavendar bath with epsom salts to calm down so I could sleep.

Now I remember why I loved spin class so much. Some people like swimming, others running, I love biking (indoors or out). That and the stretching and strengthening of Yoga. I'm also doing a daily program from PBS called Classical Stretch. It also works on stretch and strength, but in a different manner than yoga. And I joined a 30 day abs challenge on Facebook. It sure feels good to feel good again! What a mood lifter the harder exercise is! So glad I did all the "prerequisite" (for me) Physical Therapy. I remember when I felt like I'd never feel good again.

Hawaii69
06-06-2014, 12:21 PM
Now I remember why I loved spin class so much. Some people like swimming, others running, I love biking (indoors or out). That and the stretching and strengthening of Yoga. I'm also doing a daily program from PBS called Classical Stretch. It also works on stretch and strength, but in a different manner than yoga. And I joined a 30 day abs challenge on Facebook. It sure feels good to feel good again! What a mood lifter the harder exercise is! So glad I did all the "prerequisite" (for me) Physical Therapy. I remember when I felt like I'd never feel good again.

Sounds great Lisa! I wholeheartedly agree about exercise. I am currently running, doing weights twice a week and using the elliptical. My goal is to do something active 5-6 times a week. I want to do some zumba classes one day and try spinning. Spinning sounds fun.

joysh
06-07-2014, 10:30 AM
Hi All!

Well, this morning I saw my goal weight on the scale for the first time in a while. It's been a long haul to get those 10 pounds off, but I did it! I want to go down another 5 to get back where I was at this time last year. But the summer clothes are now fitting (almost all of them) and I'm feeling much better.

I think the image thing is the hardest thing.

This is the first time I have kept my weight off for more than two years. There are definitely those days when you still don't believe that you are fitting size 6!

drd and Maile: So true about the image we have of ourselves. Yesterday was our last day of music camp for kids and I saw myself in the photo and thought I looked fat. I had to email the photo to my sister and have her tell me that I do not look fat in order to believe it! I put on my size 6 pants, but I feel like they look like size 12.

Maile: Congrats on the end of school! While my final grades were turned in second week of May, I kept working to get the music camp off the ground. We just completed that week and it was a great success, so now I finally feel like I can really relax and decompress. Hooray! Enjoy your break!

Lisa32989, spinning sounds fun! It's exciting that you are getting fit! I will begin my summer swimming soon. Looking forward to that feeling!

Ruth Ann: How wonderful that your pain is lessening! A mile each day! I'm impressed!

Have a wonderful weekend, everyone!

Hawaii69
06-07-2014, 11:16 AM
Congrads Joysh! Good for you! Maintenance is including a lot of challenges but I am learning, by trial and error. And I had one of those feeling 'fat' days yesterday as I was clothes shopping. I kept telling myself that a year ago, I was not even close to putting on these sizes but I still seen someone that same size. And I almost panicked, like, maybe I need to lose 10 more lbs! But, I am trying to be realistic with myself, I am healthier, am exercising regularly and this weight is one that I can maintain easier. I'm figuring out what works. Its so great to read that how I'm feeling some days is similiar to others!

Kellyc14
06-07-2014, 11:42 AM
Hi All!

Well, this morning I saw my goal weight on the scale for the first time in a while. It's been a long haul to get those 10 pounds off, but I did it! I want to go down another 5 to get back where I was at this time last year. But the summer clothes are now fitting (almost all of them) and I'm feeling much better.





drd and Maile: So true about the image we have of ourselves. Yesterday was our last day of music camp for kids and I saw myself in the photo and thought I looked fat. I had to email the photo to my sister and have her tell me that I do not look fat in order to believe it! I put on my size 6 pants, but I feel like they look like size 12.

Maile: Congrats on the end of school! While my final grades were turned in second week of May, I kept working to get the music camp off the ground. We just completed that week and it was a great success, so now I finally feel like I can really relax and decompress. Hooray! Enjoy your break!

Lisa32989, spinning sounds fun! It's exciting that you are getting fit! I will begin my summer swimming soon. Looking forward to that feeling!

Ruth Ann: How wonderful that your pain is lessening! A mile each day! I'm impressed!

Have a wonderful weekend, everyone!

Joy I just checked out your pictures and you look amazing!! What an inspiration!! Go you!!!!!:carrot:

Maile
06-07-2014, 03:46 PM
Joysh,Hawaii69, I think years of feeling like you look fat,when you really were fat, can trigger those image problems. I can feel like I am fat when the scale is up at my top end. this is only a 3 pound gain, but psychologically I think I tip into a feeling fat again day. However, the good thing is that I do not have negative thoughts that I have done something wrong. Nor do I panick anymore. I do one of three things:
I choose an outfit that I really like..or two I choose one of my looser pants or 3 I choose my tightest stretchy pants and tell myself that I need to keep fitting them. Then I look in the mirror and reassure myself I am not fat.
This emotional reaction is getting better and I usually bounce back and am happy for the rest of the day.

Joysh:It was interesting that you mentioned contacting your sister. I was telling my sister that I thought her yoga teacher daughter looked really thin, and she commented..would you be surprised to know that is how I see you?
Great job on reaching goal. I am glad your music camp went well and you are finally on vacation.

Hawaii69: clothes shopping can be stressful. You are doing so well in figuring out what works for you in maintenance! I try to exercise 6-7 days a week.

Lisa: Your exercise is impressive..Wow. That is inspiring.All of your work is paying off and you do feel better.

Ruthann: I hope you are doing well. I have two days more of finishing up with no students. Right now I am adjusting to going from 1 kids living in my house to 4.

Hawaii69
06-07-2014, 05:01 PM
Thanks Maile! Your words of wisdom and encouragement are much appreciated! And it is positive thoughts like these that have helped me to continue on this journey and to work at staying healthy.

SylviesGirl
06-07-2014, 08:54 PM
I just want to thank you all for everything that you share here and on the other threads as well. I began phase 3 today and, with that, I wanted to tie in regular exercise, too. I just finished up a good walk and logged in here and found such a wonderfully inspiring conversation going on about fitness and strength and health. What wonderful nourishment.

Joysh -- Congrats! I'd say size 6 is looking very good on you! Well done.

All you P/T and regular exercise gals are very inspiring & motivating. My hat's off to you . . . I'm watching and learning. :chin:

IP43
06-07-2014, 09:17 PM
I don't usually check this thread as I'm so many months away from it BUT I did tonight, and there are all kinds of people maintaining that I haven't seen since we were losing together a year ago. Makes me a wee bit sad I'm not HERE now BUT gives me hope about how well this works!
I was just thinking of you LizRR last weekend -- was at a huge yard sale and kept my eye out for an "ice cream machine". I was remembering your cucumber sorbets etc..... Nice to hear all is well with you and the wee one as she was "still on the way" when I last checked in

LizRR
06-07-2014, 11:55 PM
I don't usually check this thread as I'm so many months away from it BUT I did tonight, and there are all kinds of people maintaining that I haven't seen since we were losing together a year ago. Makes me a wee bit sad I'm not HERE now BUT gives me hope about how well this works!
I was just thinking of you LizRR last weekend -- was at a huge yard sale and kept my eye out for an "ice cream machine". I was remembering your cucumber sorbets etc..... Nice to hear all is well with you and the wee one as she was "still on the way" when I last checked in

It was a sad day when my ice cream machine broke...that thing was awesome! My sweet girl is 9mo now, and baby boy is almost 4yo in July. Still find it a challenge to hit the gym regularly but do what I can when I can. Last night my son crawled in bed at midnight, daughter woke up at 12:30, then when i came back to bed after putting her down my son had thrown up on my pillow! Quite the party...thankfully everyone seems to be healthy again.

SylviesGirl
06-08-2014, 08:07 AM
I don't usually check this thread as I'm so many months away from it BUT I did tonight, and there are all kinds of people maintaining that I haven't seen since we were losing together a year ago. Makes me a wee bit sad I'm not HERE now BUT gives me hope about how well this works!
I was just thinking of you LizRR last weekend -- was at a huge yard sale and kept my eye out for an "ice cream machine". I was remembering your cucumber sorbets etc..... Nice to hear all is well with you and the wee one as she was "still on the way" when I last checked in

Cucumber sorbet???!!!! Liz, you are a genius!!!

-- slams door and speeds over to the recipe threads . . . :scooter:

Maile
06-08-2014, 09:15 AM
Lizrr: I hope both kids are feeling better. That was quite a night! I have always loved your recipes and your creativity. Cucumber sorbet does sound good.

SylviesGirl: You have an amazing weight loss! I hope your maintenance is going well.

IP43: Ip does work and I know you will reach your goal.

Hawaii69: Thanks for your kind words. IP gave me the habits and framework to maintain. I hope you are doing well.

Ruth Ann
06-09-2014, 07:28 AM
Glad to see everyone seems to be doing well!

I'm getting over my fear that if I don't measure vegetables exactly I'm going to gain weight. I actually just threw a couple of handfuls of spinach into something the other day instead of measuring - dh says I'm turning into a rebel. :D

Had such beautiful weather this weekend - worked at the office Saturday and then spent Sunday doing the house stuff, laundry, groceries, etc., etc. Did take a few hours off to watch the ballgame. Be glad when things slow down some - probably in late September!

Maile
06-09-2014, 08:34 AM
Ruth Ann..after months of carefully measuring vegetables, I now just eat as much as I want. I dump spinach and leftover vegetables in. I usually eyeball the two cups of lettuce or arrugula, and then starting adding. Good for you turning into a rebel.

You sound busy! I am busy trying to get exercise in while my kids are here.

canadjineh
06-09-2014, 01:05 PM
Hi gals! It's good to be back, and see you all doing so well! Wow, new avatar - Ruth Ann - lookin' HAWT! lol

I was away on vacation for 5 days hiking, biking in mountain parks (Kananaskis Rockies) and a city getaway in Calgary at a Relais & Chateau boutique hotel. Mmmmm, Frette linens & towels - piles of them, and Aveda bath & beauty products, pampering in our suite with gas fireplace in a separate seating area and an amazing bed that was like sleeping on a cloud! Also a 4 diamond restaurant on site! All on the river valley with a view off our patio - sitting in the hotel robes & slippers in the sunshine drinking our coffee, reading the newspaper and Randy eating the fresh croissants from our delivered tray waiting for us when we woke up. And that was pre-breakfast, lol. I ate a lot of great ethnic food - gourmet Mexican and Indian and wonderful breakfasts including specially prepared GF eggs benedict perfectly poached with organic sage roasted potatoes and lots of fresh fruit on the side, and drank good wine and gluten free beer and still lost a 1/2 pound. Yaaay! I also won the Grand Prize in Alpine Club of Canada's open house on Sunday - a sightseeing flight for two with Alpine Helicopters - so I guess we are going East for another vacation to Canmore sometime later this year. Aren't I the spoiled gal? :cloud9:

Liana

Kellyc14
06-09-2014, 02:24 PM
Hi gals! It's good to be back, and see you all doing so well! Wow, new avatar - Ruth Ann - lookin' HAWT! lol

I was away on vacation for 5 days hiking, biking in mountain parks (Kananaskis Rockies) and a city getaway in Calgary at a Relais & Chateau boutique hotel. Mmmmm, Frette linens & towels - piles of them, and Aveda bath & beauty products, pampering in our suite with gas fireplace in a separate seating area and an amazing bed that was like sleeping on a cloud! Also a 4 diamond restaurant on site! All on the river valley with a view off our patio - sitting in the hotel robes & slippers in the sunshine drinking our coffee, reading the newspaper and Randy eating the fresh croissants from our delivered tray waiting for us when we woke up. And that was pre-breakfast, lol. I ate a lot of great ethnic food - gourmet Mexican and Indian and wonderful breakfasts including specially prepared GF eggs benedict perfectly poached with organic sage roasted potatoes and lots of fresh fruit on the side, and drank good wine and gluten free beer and still lost a 1/2 pound. Yaaay! I also won the Grand Prize in Alpine Club of Canada's open house on Sunday - a sightseeing flight for two with Alpine Helicopters - so I guess we are going East for another vacation to Canmore sometime later this year. Aren't I the spoiled gal? :cloud9:

Liana

Sounds heavenly!!!!

LizRR
06-09-2014, 10:31 PM
Glad to see everyone seems to be doing well!

I'm getting over my fear that if I don't measure vegetables exactly I'm going to gain weight. I actually just threw a couple of handfuls of spinach into something the other day instead of measuring - dh says I'm turning into a rebel. :D

Had such beautiful weather this weekend - worked at the office Saturday and then spent Sunday doing the house stuff, laundry, groceries, etc., etc. Did take a few hours off to watch the ballgame. Be glad when things slow down some - probably in late September!

Lol, only an IPer would understand the fear of gaining by eating too many VEGETABLES!

Hi gals! It's good to be back, and see you all doing so well! Wow, new avatar - Ruth Ann - lookin' HAWT! lol

I was away on vacation for 5 days hiking, biking in mountain parks (Kananaskis Rockies) and a city getaway in Calgary at a Relais & Chateau boutique hotel. Mmmmm, Frette linens & towels - piles of them, and Aveda bath & beauty products, pampering in our suite with gas fireplace in a separate seating area and an amazing bed that was like sleeping on a cloud! Also a 4 diamond restaurant on site! All on the river valley with a view off our patio - sitting in the hotel robes & slippers in the sunshine drinking our coffee, reading the newspaper and Randy eating the fresh croissants from our delivered tray waiting for us when we woke up. And that was pre-breakfast, lol. I ate a lot of great ethnic food - gourmet Mexican and Indian and wonderful breakfasts including specially prepared GF eggs benedict perfectly poached with organic sage roasted potatoes and lots of fresh fruit on the side, and drank good wine and gluten free beer and still lost a 1/2 pound. Yaaay! I also won the Grand Prize in Alpine Club of Canada's open house on Sunday - a sightseeing flight for two with Alpine Helicopters - so I guess we are going East for another vacation to Canmore sometime later this year. Aren't I the spoiled gal? :cloud9:

Liana

That sounds 1000x better than my weekend. After my sons sickness, I was the one getting sick all night. Just barely keeping down water, but the kids are 100%.

IP43
06-09-2014, 10:48 PM
Ruth Ann -- I'm humming a song for you right now -- Billy Idol's "With a rebel yell, she cried "More, More, More"... (vegetables....)... It doesn't really work to the intentions of the song but my brain is having fun putting rebel you and billy idol together. Here's a trip down memory lane for all my "80s" IPeeps...:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwZaQfoIbU