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Pukka8
04-02-2014, 09:01 PM
Hi all

I am doing my second go round of IP (planned phase off for first round to travel but am inspired by those who travel and stay OP!) and have been doing well - getting in my packs, water, protein and veggies and losing ~1.5 lbs / week. I am about 4 lbs from my original goal and I am considering revising it.

For the past week or so, I have had intense cravings to snack in the evening. I am not hungry, just craving something sweet to eat (I eat my IP snack in the mid-afternoon otherwise I just can't make it to dinner).

Anyone else experience this? I know some people say having a cup of tea helps so will try that. I usually want something crunchy and sweet though - like a cookie! It is driving me crazy!:devil:


JSorrell
04-02-2014, 09:05 PM
Hi all

I am doing my second go round of IP (planned phase off for first round to travel but am inspired by those who travel and stay OP!) and have been doing well - getting in my packs, water, protein and veggies and losing ~1.5 lbs / week. I am about 4 lbs from my original goal and I am considering revising it.

For the past week or so, I have had intense cravings to snack in the evening. I am not hungry, just craving something sweet to eat (I eat my IP snack in the mid-afternoon otherwise I just can't make it to dinner).

Anyone else experience this? I know some people say having a cup of tea helps so will try that. I usually want something crunchy and sweet though - like a cookie! It is driving me crazy!:devil:
I'm sitting here trying to exercise my willpower by not grabbing a spoon and the jar of peanut butter. Glad I'm not alone in the craving department. Maybe I will go and make that cup of recommended tea.

Ruth Ann
04-02-2014, 09:08 PM
Brush your teeth, take a long hot bath, read the boards, read a book, drink hot tea - anything to distract yourself. If all else fails, go to bed early!

Sometimes you just have to white knuckle through it and it really sucks!


ChipnDip
04-02-2014, 10:30 PM
Could you find something different in the afternoon so you could have a treat at night? I split my lunch up often or sometimes it just takes me a while to eat it. I'll have the tea in the afternoon if I get hungry and save my snack unless I know dinner will be late. A handful of celery helps me too. My coach says I don't have to count the celery.

lisa32989
04-02-2014, 10:46 PM
Could you find something different in the afternoon so you could have a treat at night? I split my lunch up often or sometimes it just takes me a while to eat it. I'll have the tea in the afternoon if I get hungry and save my snack unless I know dinner will be late. A handful of celery helps me too. My coach says I don't have to count the celery.
Although some coaches have "house rules" about celery, spinach and cukes, the P1 sheet clearly states those are vegetables.

However a couple of egg whites are 0/0/0 and might help with mid-afternoon hungries so that the IP snack can be in the evening. If not egg whites, I suggest using a pudding packet, shaken with 8 oz water and then in the blender with ice and perhaps some spinach or lettuce. When I make these, it fills two 24 oz Tervis Tumblers. You could have half in the afternoon and half in the evening..

The biggest thing for me has been to learn to resist urges to snack. Cravings aren't true hunger but rather they are my mind working against me. Sometimes it helps to verbally tell them "no". I liken it to the "inner child" having a hissy fit. And the inner two-year-old doesn't get to be in charge of the food!

Mizzthingaling
04-02-2014, 11:42 PM
I save part of my vegetables for seaweed chips. I buy them at grocery stores and Asian markets. They give me the chip crunch and flavor. You could also try kale chips.

Ruth Ann
04-03-2014, 08:08 AM
I save part of my vegetables for seaweed chips. I buy them at grocery stores and Asian markets. They give me the chip crunch and flavor. You could also try kale chips.

I don't see seaweed on the current P1 sheet (although I think it may have been on one of the old ones), so I'd be leery of it.

Also, I don't know what brand of chips you are getting, but the ingredient list for the first one that came up in a google search was:

Seaweed Chip (Dried Seaweed, Brown Rice Flour, Rice Flour, Gluten Free Tamari Soy Sauce [Water, Soybeans, Salt, Alcohol], Corn Starch, Dried Cane Syrup Solids, Sesame Seeds, Sesame Oil, Granulated Garlic, Granulated Onion, Natural Flavor), Seasoning: Korean BBQ Seasoning (Sugar, Natural BBQ Flavor [Spice, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Natural Flavor, Salt, Sugar, Soy Sauce {Soybeans, Salt}, Maltodextrin, Sesame Oil, Molasses], Molasses Powder [Molasses, Maltodextrin], Tamari Powder [Tamari {Soybeans, Salt}, Maltodextrin, Salt], Sea Salt, Vinegar Powder [Maltodextrin, White Distilled Vinegar Solids], Onion Powder, Garlic Powder, Spices, Natural Flavor), Canola Oil. Gluten free.

A whole bunch of non-P1 stuff in there!

You might try making kale chips instead - they are delicious!

Pukka8
04-03-2014, 10:16 AM
Thanks to everyone for their great suggestions and support. I will try to snack on something different in the afternoons and / or have tea then so that I can have my snack in the afternoon. And work on telling my inner 2 year old that they are not the boss of food!

Slipfree
04-03-2014, 05:27 PM
Funny, I call the cravings monster-my inner brat. I do not listen to the inner brat because she wants things that made me fat! :)

Cath138
04-26-2014, 08:56 AM
You could try 5 calories jello (0 carbs and 0 sugar) usually it does it for me! I keep a couple on flavour on hand for those moments so I won't be tempted to cheat ;-)

BEEGEE
04-26-2014, 09:06 AM
I freeze the RTD mango drink into three popcicles and if I get hungry in the evening I have one of those it doesn't count as a packet and it is so good!!!

Noodles1984
04-26-2014, 10:58 AM
I freeze the RTD mango drink into three popcicles and if I get hungry in the evening I have one of those it doesn't count as a packet and it is so good!!!

I've done that with the dark chocolate puddings! My own special fudgesicle. It doesn't freeze quite right but if I hold it over a bowl, it's still like ice cream. Good enough for me! I count mine as my evening snack though because I eat it all....it's good!

Chrztina
04-26-2014, 11:06 AM
Pickles calm my sweet cravings.

I also like to keep roasted cabbage chips on hand. Cut into bite sized pieces, toss with olive oil and salt and roast at 350 for 15 minutes. Similar to kale chips with a slightly sweeter flavor.

IP43
04-26-2014, 11:33 AM
The cheese curls are a big snack so you could probably use some in the pm and some in the evening?

65X65
04-26-2014, 11:54 AM
Funny, I call the cravings monster-my inner brat. I do not listen to the inner brat because she wants things that made me fat! :)

Smart woman...great saying! Another part of the beauty of IP ..or any ketogenic diet..is an opportunity to try to reform your craves and wants. Even artificial sweeteners are known to wake up the sugar monster.

Th biggest factor of maintenance success is being able to control that ...So re-wiring your brain at the same time you rewire your physical being during the early phases of this diet...is not a bad thing to consider!

Reading how people tame or work to tame that in maintenance reminds us we are a checkout line away from candy bars... and a holiday away from baking and cooking things that are ultimately going to make the path forward harder.

Instead, I developed and refined some hobbies that are not food related to replace cake decorating, Christmas cookie baking marathons and other forays into the kitchen that took longer than 15 minutes (!!) to help me stay on track.

Sully1961
05-07-2014, 02:19 PM
Evenings are tough . I have been drinking copious amounts of herbal tea in the evening and cucumber slices and celery sticks with a tbsp of Walden Farms dressing to dip helps to satisfy my urge to crunmch and chew.
If I am really hungry (stomach hungry not head hungry) I will have a fourth IP - a dark chocolate pudding will often do the trick for me.

pishposhappelsauce
05-07-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm having a similar issue but in the afternoons. 1 pm - 5 pm is the long drawn out stretch for me during the day. If I'm not really busy with work I want to EAT EAT EAT. I'm not even hungry I just have that inner brat (nice one, slipfree) bugging me to eat something sweet. I've found myself eating my snack just an hour after lunch out of boredom.

I think I'm going to start leaving my snack at home and bringing a lower carb drink packet for an afternoon pick me up only if I REALLY need it so I can break the habit of reaching for the snacks during my afternoon slump.

Ruth Ann
05-07-2014, 04:14 PM
I'm having a similar issue but in the afternoons. 1 pm - 5 pm is the long drawn out stretch for me during the day. If I'm not really busy with work I want to EAT EAT EAT. I'm not even hungry I just have that inner brat (nice one, slipfree) bugging me to eat something sweet. I've found myself eating my snack just an hour after lunch out of boredom.

I think I'm going to start leaving my snack at home and bringing a lower carb drink packet for an afternoon pick me up only if I REALLY need it so I can break the habit of reaching for the snacks during my afternoon slump.

Or you could just bring a bag of lettuce to work to munch on! I kept a bowl of lettuce at my desk all through P1 just so I had something in the afternoons when the snack monster hit me too hard. Maybe a dressing to dip it in if you wanted.

64peppergirl
05-07-2014, 05:42 PM
Also, be sure to drink ALOT of water in the afternoon. Not only does it help the "hungries", the weight loss is usually a lot better at weigh-in.
If it is really bad I grab a Jello brand sugar-free jello tub topped with WF marshmallow crème and that does it for me.

deelee10
05-07-2014, 07:30 PM
Hi -

That has always been my biggest problem too. Do you know Bethenny "Skinny Girl?" One of the things I learned from one of her books was that when you eat something you've been craving, the first bite is fabulous, the second bite, very good, but by the fourth bite - are you still really tasting it or just automatically putting it into your mouth? She has a point. So when going to the movies or watching TV I sometimes cut up celery into bite sized pieces, then mindlessly eat that. I see from the posts that celery does not have universal approval? I finally give up the addictive stuff and now have to worry about CELERY?! Soo not fair...

JLUS
05-07-2014, 07:47 PM
Hi -

That has always been my biggest problem too. Do you know Bethenny "Skinny Girl?" One of the things I learned from one of her books was that when you eat something you've been craving, the first bite is fabulous, the second bite, very good, but by the fourth bite - are you still really tasting it or just automatically putting it into your mouth? She has a point. So when going to the movies or watching TV I sometimes cut up celery into bite sized pieces, then mindlessly eat that. I see from the posts that celery does not have universal approval? I finally give up the addictive stuff and now have to worry about CELERY?! Soo not fair...

There is nothing wrong with celery... I don't recall any posts that are negative about it. It is an IP approved select veggie. However, it does count as part of your 2 cups plus 2 cups per day. So, just save a half cup or so of your daily veggie allotment and MUNCH AWAY!

deelee10
05-07-2014, 08:15 PM
Thanks, Laurie. I probably ate a lot more than 2 cups the other day. That may explain why I didn't get into ketosis yet!

JLUS
05-07-2014, 08:46 PM
Thanks, Laurie. I probably ate a lot more than 2 cups the other day. That may explain why I didn't get into ketosis yet!

You need 2 cups at lunch and 2 at dinner, so four for the day. You would have to eat A LOT of celery to keep you out of ketosis, but definitely important to stick to the four cups total and follow protocol. I suggest setting aside a portion of your allowed veggies for your celery munching.

I am still curious where you saw unfavorable comments about eating celery!

ChipnDip
05-07-2014, 08:54 PM
You need 2 cups at lunch and 2 at dinner, so four for the day. You would have to eat A LOT of celery to keep you out of ketosis, but definitely important to stick to the four cups total and follow protocol. I suggest setting aside a portion of your allowed veggies for your celery munching.

I am still curious where you saw unfavorable comments about eating celery!

I think some people thought it was "free" like lettuce. So e coaches say it is. Some say the same about cucumber. But really the only free thing is lettuce.

JLUS
05-07-2014, 08:55 PM
I think some people thought it was "free" like lettuce. So e coaches say it is. Some say the same about cucumber. But really the only free thing is lettuce.

Exactly!

So not really unfavorable comments about celery... Just that it must be counted, which is something different.

ChipnDip
05-07-2014, 08:57 PM
Funny though, I just looked it up and there are less carbs in celery than romaine.

JLUS
05-07-2014, 09:13 PM
Funny though, I just looked it up and there are less carbs in celery than romaine.

Doubt anyone is going to eat enough of either to affect ketosis... However, there are more vitamins, minerals and fiber in romaine so eating more has more benefit. I am sure there are "hidden" reasons IP has made specific selections for do and do not eat, limits they set, etc. Which is why it is ultimately best to just follow protocol without a lot of analysis of the components!

I for one am not much of a celery eater! (Wonder why there is no "dancing celery" cartoon?)

deelee10
05-08-2014, 12:46 PM
I think some people thought it was "free" like lettuce. So e coaches say it is. Some say the same about cucumber. But really the only free thing is lettuce.

Yes, I thought it was free. I don't like celery so much as the putting bite sized, crunchy pieces in my mouth and crunching away. I'll see if I can make it work with some lettuce. Thanks for the info!