Chicks in Control - For those that are trying to lose the diet mentality,how often do you weigh yourself?




davina
04-01-2014, 08:34 PM
Hi,


I have a lot of weight to lose, I will say that upfront. But what I am working on at the moment is the OA program and tackling my binge and compulsive overeating. The weight should straighten out then if I succeed in this.
But Ill admit I am having trouble and sometimes the scale pisses me off. for the first two weeks I didnt think of the scale but lately ive weighed myself too often and there's been no movement. Considering all the food and binges not eaten during this time I was hoping for more weight to come off. It seems to be around the exact same number for a week. This is also dangerous so I will have to stop getting on scale.

How often do you guys weigh yourself, once every two weeks? once a month?


SouthernMaven
04-01-2014, 10:57 PM
Hi,


I have a lot of weight to lose, I will say that upfront. But what I am working on at the moment is the OA program and tackling my binge and compulsive overeating. The weight should straighten out then if I succeed in this.
But Ill admit I am having trouble and sometimes the scale pisses me off. for the first two weeks I didnt think of the scale but lately ive weighed myself too often and there's been no movement. Considering all the food and binges not eaten during this time I was hoping for more weight to come off. It seems to be around the exact same number for a week. This is also dangerous so I will have to stop getting on scale.

How often do you guys weigh yourself, once every two weeks? once a month?

Never.

I stopped weighing myself quite some time ago. The reasons are:

a) I'm not dieting, and I'm not concerned with weight loss, so it's pointless for me to weigh.

b) I can generally tell by how I feel & how my body feels if I'm getting larger or smaller. The way my clothes fit tell me more than a scale ever did.

c) When I've used the scale as a measure of "success" when dieting in the past, I always obsessed over the numbers. I don't EVER want to go there again.

This is in no way a criticism of those who use the scale. I only answered because you asked.

Your mileage may vary.

Locke
04-02-2014, 12:05 AM
I have a lot of weight to lose, too, and I step on the scale once a week. I've been thinking about doing it once monthly, though. The problem is that weight is not a measurement of how much fat you've gained or lost. There are a whole slew of factors that influence it. I know for myself I itch to weigh when I feel like I've been doing well. I've been hungry or denying myself. I get the scale out not to track my progress but to affirm the things that I have done. This is the problem- when I get on the scale and it hasn't moved or it's gone up then I feel TERRIBLE. All of that effort I put in derails and becomes "not enough" because of that number.


davina
04-02-2014, 12:39 AM
I agree Locke. Honestly when I am hungry most of the day (i guess body adjusting to less food, im not really sure) and see the scale didnt move I want to cry and eat. I just get angry and think f it whats the point. I do want to keep some track though because if it doesnt go down at all then I am doing something very wrong.

I am thinking maybe twice a month might work ok.

Wannabeskinny
04-02-2014, 08:43 AM
I used to weigh on a rigid schedule. Monday mornings were like exam day. Weigh myself first thing and then write it down. Thursday mornings were unofficial, I'd weigh myself but not write it down. It's a bizarre little ritual.

Now I've given up the Thursday morning unofficial readings. I still weigh myself most Mondays but not always! So I'm getting better at not giving too much important to the scale. It's a hard break to make I won't lie. I feel oddly attached to my weight journal. I can look back to any Monday in the past several years and tell you exactly what I weighed. So for example I know that the last time I wore a particular dress I wore it for a friend's wedding in June. Now I go back to my June log and see what I weighed that month... and now I know whether or not I can still fit into that dress lol. Gosh that is bizarre isn't it lol.

Shannonsnail
04-02-2014, 09:33 AM
For me it varies.....I've had times where the scale was absolutely a trigger and I stopped weighing for long periods of time. I even tried a scale that doesn't give you a number! Right now because I am in a better frame of mind I am weighing once a week officially and occasionally in between. When I am making good progress, not bingeing as much, I tend to weigh myself more because I am encouraged by my progress. When I know my eating is out of control I tend to stop weighing because the number does not motivate me to change, rather to continue self sabotaging (makes no sense, I know). Right now I do consider myself to be "dieting" in the sense that I am overweight and trying to lose weight but the changes I am currently making with my eating are the result of my blood sugar values worsening and therefore, I like to think of them as permanent changes, not a temporary "diet".

SouthernMaven
04-02-2014, 10:06 AM
I agree Locke. Honestly when I am hungry most of the day (i guess body adjusting to less food, im not really sure) and see the scale didnt move I want to cry and eat. I just get angry and think f it whats the point.

Boy, I remember those days! I have such sympathy for you.

I am thinking maybe twice a month might work ok.

I'm no expert, believe me, but I will tell you my previous experience with the scale.

When I was still using it, I rarely weighed more often than every two weeks. More often than not, once a month. Monthly seemed to work best for me, because if I was "staying on plan" (boy, I hate that phrase) I was pretty much guaranteed that I'd see a nice loss. It eliminated those inevitable ups and downs that can be so frustrating if you weigh too often.

Rhiko
04-02-2014, 06:52 PM
I'm obsessive and weigh everyday lol. Once a week is fine, or fortnightly. It's up to you, I think. :)

YumaDeb
04-02-2014, 06:57 PM
There is a lot of controversy around how much you should weigh. Jon Gabriel recommends not weighing at all, especially if you use the scale as a reason to beat yourself up. Lyn-Genet, in The Plan, says to weigh every day with a digital scale, because the weight loss or gain is an indicator of inflammation. While I was training myself to release the diet mindset, I did not step on the scale for several weeks. Now I weigh daily. The daily fluctuations tell me which foods are inflammatory for my body. Since each one of us is different, both physically and emotionally, we each have to decide what is best for ourselves.

mars735
04-02-2014, 10:04 PM
An alternative that some people use is to weigh once/day with the goal of gaining emotional distance from the number, almost like a process of desensitization. Up, down, it's just a number to record. The trend over a month or longer is what counts. So any given day is "just information." I do this with varying success. If I eat way more than planned to, I avoid weighing for a few days, but eventually get back to it.

AshleyFaith
04-15-2014, 10:32 PM
Pretty much every day..
I try not to do it and fail every time.

kaplods
04-15-2014, 11:07 PM
At least once a day, and whenever else I feel like it. I don't think losing the diet mentality has anything to do with whether or not, or how you use a scale.

Weighing whenever I was tempted to, actually helped me lose the diet mentality and the punishment aspect of weightloss.


The less often I weigh, the more I obsess over how every bite might affect the scale. Instead I decided to treat and view the scale/weighing like other emotionally neutral tools/activities.

When I treat it like checking my teeth in the mirror after lunch, to see if I need to floss the spinache out of my teeth, doing it once a day, or even twenty, is only obsessive and harmful if I allow it to be.

I've decided to treat my weight like my hair length. I get to decide when and if I need to change it (grow my hair longer, or cut it shorter), and I don't ever have to feel bad about myself because my hair is shorter or longer than I'd like.

Seeing the number on thexscale doesn't have to be an emotional experience whether you do so once a year or thirty times a day.

Now that I weigh whenever I'm curious, I think about the scale a lot less than when I tried to avoid or limit my use of the scale.

Even when I first decided to do this, when I was weighing myself every time I ate, drank, or used the bathroom, I was still thinking about my weight and the scale a lot less than before.

The number on the scale really isn't important to me, but the changes are. If I'm suddenly up 5 lbs that can mean I'm retaining water. During some times a year that can mean swollen ankles and wrists and it can aggravate my arthritis. Seeing the weight gain sooner rather than later, and drinking extra fluids to flush the weight gain prevents the blood pressure and arthritis aggravation.

Checking my weight daily is no different than brushing my teeth, monitoring my blood sugar, or using moisturizer on my hands and feet to prevent calluses and cracks.

Wannabeskinny
04-16-2014, 07:44 AM
At least once a day, and whenever else I feel like it. I don't think losing the diet mentality has anything to do with whether or not, or how you use a scale.



In my own experience it is the diet mentality for me. Being tied to a scale several times a day makes me nervous even thinking about it. Nothing good has ever come from stepping on a scale often for me. I do it when I have to and leave it at that. If the number is good I feel pressure to "keep it up" if the number is bad I feel shame. If the number is different than what I thought it would be it could send me into a binge.

StephMar
04-16-2014, 12:58 PM
I've been in maintenance for over a year and still weigh daily. It helps keep me where I need to be. If I go up a few pounds, I make sure to follow plan until the pounds drop off again.

kaplods
04-16-2014, 05:36 PM
In my own experience it is the diet mentality for me. Being tied to a scale several times a day makes me nervous even thinking about it. Nothing good has ever come from stepping on a scale often for me. I do it when I have to and leave it at that. If the number is good I feel pressure to "keep it up" if the number is bad I feel shame. If the number is different than what I thought it would be it could send me into a binge.


That used to be true for me too, but mostly because I was taught and told to think that way by almost every women's magazine and weight loss club. It gradually dawned on me that the scale didn't make me feel that way, I chose to have those feelings and chose to tie them to the scale.

Weighing once or twice a day no more ties me to a scale than brushing my teeth 2-3 times a day ties me to a toothbrush.

I did have to completely ditch the shame and expectations though and stop thinking of the scale's number as bad or good. It's a number, neither good or bad. Gaining does not make me a bad person any more than having messy hair or spinach in my teeth. Losing doesn't make me a better person, either. It doesn't even make me a healthier person, because if I do it by unhealthy eatng, my health can plummet along with my weight.

If I didn't have health and mobility issues, I wouldn't bother with the scale at all, because weight loss wouldn't be a priority for me at all. My husband thought I was beautiful and I felt beautiful at nearly 400 lbs.

Now I have health issues that tend to improve with weight loss, but I'm a person who tends to live (and eat) on impulse. Weighing once or even more often per day, reminds me that my first weight goal is "not gaining," and my secondary goal is weight loss.

Even gaining isn't a tragedy. If I woke up tomorrow and found that I'd gained 25 lbs, there'd be no shame in it for me, because I have divorced my self esteem from my weight. I'm a not and never will be a number on the scale or a number on my clothing tags.

There are a lot of things I put more thought into than my weight loss (which is why I'm losing so slowly, and every once in a while backtrack). I don't mind losing slowly, or even gaining occasionally, because it just means something more important to me came up.

I spend 4 minutes a day brushing my teeth. I spend 5-30 seconds a day on the scale, and I don't think of my weight at all, except for the few seconds it takes me to get on the scale and read/ record my weight.

Shame is a choice, it doesn't always feel like a choice, but it is, and I choose to reject shame. My weight is such an unimportant part of me, I feel no reason to tie shame to it. I like who I am, with or without weight loss. I'm only working at weight loss to get a longer, more comfortable and more capable life. If I weighed myself every 30 minutes it wouldn't change how I feel about myself (and even then those 30 or so weigh-ins would still take up less time in my day than brushing my teeth).

Koshka
04-16-2014, 09:57 PM
An alternative that some people use is to weigh once/day with the goal of gaining emotional distance from the number, almost like a process of desensitization. Up, down, it's just a number to record. The trend over a month or longer is what counts. So any given day is "just information." I do this with varying success. If I eat way more than planned to, I avoid weighing for a few days, but eventually get back to it.


This would be me. I find it very helpful to weigh each day and see the natural fluctuations in weight. Of course, I'm interested in the overall trend, but weighing crazes me much less now since I just see the scale as telling me what my weight is this morning.

krampus
04-17-2014, 10:48 AM
I've been in maintenance for over a year and still weigh daily. It helps keep me where I need to be. If I go up a few pounds, I make sure to follow plan until the pounds drop off again.

This is where I am, too. I am very rarely surprised by a scale reading and it's just data with no emotional tie.

When I was losing, I weighed daily also. Not sure if that was the best approach as in moments of weakness, I would get impatient and angry/upset if I didn't lose TWO WHOLE POUNDS OVERNIGHT.

If I were to consciously try to lose weight again, I would probably try to weigh less frequently.

davina
04-20-2014, 12:30 AM
i understand some of the posts here saying weight is not tied to self esteem,etc.
Unfortunately for me it is and I am new to tackling the compulsive eating as opposed to the weight. every day weighing will not work for me at where I am mentally. my weight is something that has been a lifelong struggle and I still associate many negative things with it.
So this is why i was asking.

Anyways, I basically decided to not even have a set number but ive been checking progress every so often because I do want to be losing for health reasons. Its a fine line I guess and different for everyone.
thanks for replies.

kaplods
04-20-2014, 01:52 AM
i understand some of the posts here saying weight is not tied to self esteem,etc.
Unfortunately for me it is.


Weight is only ever tied to worth or self esteem, because someone or many someones tied it there. Our culture ties a large percentage of a woman's worth to appearance. If a woman isn't thin and beautiful, no matter what else she has accomplished, she'll never feel "good enough" if she accepts the culturally sanctioned ties between beauty/weight and worth for women.

You may not have (at least not on your own) tied your self-esteem to your weight, but you are responsible for holding all the strings now. You can choose to let go of them whenever you choose to.

The choice isn't easy, but it can be done. How often you do or do not weigh (or look in the mirror, or wear makeup or do anything else you've tied to wort, or whether you ever do any of the things you feel less worthy for) - All of it is only as important as you choose it to be.

You get to decide what builds up, and what tears down your self esteem. You're the only one who can.

If you want to make your value to yourself about the number on the scale, that's a choice you're free to make, but no one else makes that choice for you. If you want to measure your worth in some other way, you (and only you) have the power to do it.

Wannabehealthy
04-20-2014, 07:55 AM
After I had heart surgery in 2008 I had to weigh myself every day because gaining 3 or more pounds in one day meant fluid retention, which meant something is wrong....call the doctor. I got a little notebook and started tracking my weight, blood pressure, blood glucose, food and exercise every day. Once I started that I continued for about a year until the novelty wore off.

I still like to weigh every day because it's better to find out that you went up a pound or two than to wait until it's 5 or 10. Having said that, I have a tendancy not to weight except when I think I've had a loss. There are times that I just don't think I can handle seeing a gain.

mackinac19
04-20-2014, 12:39 PM
In another thread (can't remember which one), Arcticmama mentioned different approaches to weighing during periods of attempted weight loss and weighing during maintenance. I think it's an important distinction because, IMHO, getting that daily number is important only if you are going to "do" something based on the data you collect.

For example, if you have a health condition and your weight is up by a few pounds suddenly, that may indicate water retention, and you can take appropriate steps.

If you are in maintenance, then daily weighing can reveal an upward trend and prompt you to decide to scale back on your eating for awhile (perhaps returning to your original weight loss plan for a few days or weeks).

But if you are actively trying to lose weight – getting on a scale frequently can be tricky, as Arcticmama pointed out. If you are working hard (staying on plan, exercising, etc) and the scale doesn't budge or even goes upward, that can be upsetting. On the other hand, if you are working hard and the scale IS trending downward, you may feel like you have some leeway to "play" with and unconsciously (or even consciously) loosen up your weight loss plan, which for some can lead to complete derailment.

And for what it's worth, although I agree with Kaplods that there is a lot of societal pressure to lose weight and that may be the factor that pushes many of us into doing it (or trying to), I do not believe that the emotion triggered when the scale goes UP during a dieting phase is necessarily "shame." I think it's simple disappointment, sometimes BIG disappointment. If I work hard at something and don't see the results I want, that's upsetting. And if I am literally going HUNGRY to get a particular result and that result is not forthcoming - well, that's REALLY disappointing and may quickly lead to a "what the ****" binge effect.

The bottom line is that our body weights ARE largely under our control, but only in the LONG TERM. Daily or weekly fluctuations, sometimes inexplicable ones, do occur, and those can be distressing and or even "triggering," in the sense that adhering to a weight-loss plan can seem pointless.

I am struggling with the scale issue right now as I am up a few pounds and trying to get back into "losing" mode for awhile. I've decided that as long as I am making good choices about not overeating (I follow IE), I will NOT weigh myself frequently (or at all). Once I am back in maintenance, I will probably weigh every day. I will ALSO weigh every day if I fall into "binge mode," as I find that if I don't "check out" from seeing that scale number during a period in which I KNOW I’m eating way too much, the binge usually trails off much more quickly.

Anyway, good luck to everyone in making the right personal choice regarding this issue!

davina
04-20-2014, 06:11 PM
Weight is only ever tied to worth or self esteem, because someone or many someones tied it there. Our culture ties a large percentage of a woman's worth to appearance. If a woman isn't thin and beautiful, no matter what else she has accomplished, she'll never feel "good enough" if she accepts the culturally sanctioned ties between beauty/weight and worth for women.

You may not have (at least not on your own) tied your self-esteem to your weight, but you are responsible for holding all the strings now. You can choose to let go of them whenever you choose to.

The choice isn't easy, but it can be done. How often you do or do not weigh (or look in the mirror, or wear makeup or do anything else you've tied to wort, or whether you ever do any of the things you feel less worthy for) - All of it is only as important as you choose it to be.

You get to decide what builds up, and what tears down your self esteem. You're the only one who can.

If you want to make your value to yourself about the number on the scale, that's a choice you're free to make, but no one else makes that choice for you. If you want to measure your worth in some other way, you (and only you) have the power to do it.

I think you are misunderstanding. Society and culture has nothing to do with my self esteem issues. I can see by your writing that you are in a place of peace about your body but I am not so to flip a switch and suddenly feel good at this size is impossible for me. The weight will have to come off for me to feel better, unfortunately thats the way it is for me.

Brandis
04-20-2014, 06:50 PM
I have a lifelong affair with the scale. When I don't want to know, it sits unused in the corner of the bathroom. Then, when I decide to jump back into trying to shed some pounds, I weigh twice a day. I get mad when I don't see the number match what I think it should, but I know from many, many, many attempts before this that the number goes down eventually if you keep at it. I can tell before I weigh if I lost or not. Seeing it just makes it a visual thing. I am inspired, though. I think I am going to weigh on Mondays for a few weeks and see how that makes me feel. Maybe it will be a lesson in self control. It might make the reward bigger if I only get it once a week. And the small disappointments that I endure wouldn't be so often. Sounds good, right? Something to look forward to, less disappointment, and compounded enjoyment at seeing some success. Okay, I have convinced myself. Tomorrow is the weekly weigh in, and no more for the week. Then I can focus on getting down to business with conquering the food addiction and keeping my exercise on track. I am sure none of this helped the OP, but I think I learned something. So thank you , Davina, and I think the answer is there is no wrong answer, just the solution that works best for you. And after 20 plus years of attempted weight loss, I guess I don't even know what that is for me, as evidenced by the fact that I just changed it up after reading your post!

davina
04-28-2014, 01:20 PM
thanks for all the replies.

well apparently I am still ver much struggling with the diet and weight mentality.
I weighed myself today and got frustrated as I feel the weight is coming off too slowly and havent had any loss in days.
This is so irritating since I have a lot of weight to lose & considering how much I weighed, how much I used to eat and how I eat now, plus removed wheat I feel I should be losing much more.
I know its not only about weight but I am starting to wonder if Im doing something wrong, like maybe too much sodium? i eat a lot of hot sauce as a condiment ..
I dont know :/ I really can't even last 2 weeks without weighing..

nostoneunturned
04-28-2014, 02:17 PM
I can't weigh myself more than once per week. It drives me mad if I think I will be less and then I'm not. It often triggers binges. I typically weigh in on Saturday mornings. I picked that day a long time ago, I think to keep me in check Friday nights. Then I could loosen up and enjoy Saturday night out.

Now I'm trying to be much more relaxed. I want to stay away from the scale for a bit since I'm trying to reduce binging primarily. I plan to step on the scale once I feel I have lost a significant amount: for me this point is less than 180. I have been battling to get under 180 since last summer. I have a pair of jeans that are too tight but will fit at about 175 so once I can fit into them I will weigh myself. From there..well I want to remain relaxed and not too rigid. Once again I think it will be whenever I feel I've lost enough that I will be pleased with the result. For maintenance (a whole 'nother battle) I would probably weigh in more often to keep in check. Weekly for sure, maybe more often. It's such a mental game with the dang scale LOL. My favorite points in life where I've lost weight have never involved regular weigh-ins.