100 lb. Club - How many treat themselves with food?
07-16-2003, 11:23 AM
And how far do you go? I treat myself once a week and still lose. However I feel that I go overboard when I do it. I stuffed myself last night and it scares me. I don't want to do that but it seems when it comes to treat night I go way to far. It does not affect my weight loss but I don't like eating that much. I want to try and get out of the habit of eating so much in one setting. So that I don't fall back into doing it every day.
07-16-2003, 11:59 AM
I have to treat myself sometimes, it's the only way I stay on program and don't feel deprived. I can also go overboard...the time I go most overboard is when I bake. I have no self control with any chocolate baked goods...or any chocolate, for that matter.
I do buy myself one chocolate chip cookie several times a week at lunch at work. Then I have built in portion control.
07-16-2003, 12:06 PM
I try to have a day ~ about once every two weeks, where I kind of eat what I want. Trying to do this, so that I don't feel deprived, and I think it kind of helps me to stay on track, having that to look forward to. But, like you, I am having a hard time getting a handle on treating myself with out going overboard.
Welcome ~ glad you have joined us. (I was born and grew up in Ohio ~ my parents, sister and brother are still there.)
07-16-2003, 12:11 PM
Mine usally consist of pizza. However last night I had to stop at the store and pickup a few things. So my pizza night turned into a big hunk of cheese, pizza and icecream bar night. Way to much. I'll work on it though and I will still lose this week. Right back at it that's the key.
07-16-2003, 12:31 PM
I have a small treat a few times a week. Sometimes my treat turns into a binge, it's then I have to figure out why I'm eating & what I could do instead of binging.
07-16-2003, 12:47 PM
See that's what I'm talking about that is what I did last night. All though it is always contained within one night it still turns into a one night binge. That is what I want to get away from. I want it to be a treat not a mini binge.
07-16-2003, 01:01 PM
Well, I have to employ my friends sometimes. I have a great coworker here who is 5'4" & weights 95# soaking wet. She is the keeper of the Hershey's Kisses. If they were not in her desk drawer, they would be in mine. If they were in mine, they would not live very long. It's completely ridiculous as I'm 3 times her size & could totaly kick her a$$ if I wanted the chocolate bad enough, but she is kind enough to only dole out 2 pieces at a time. At home is another story entirely. I don't usually buy "bad" things, b/c I know it's a recipe for disaster.
My worst times are when I grocery shop while hungry:
"OHHHH! They have Chubby Hubby! I can't find it anywhere else! I HAVE to buy it!"
"Oooooh, they have mini quiches, I've been good all week, I DESERVE some quiches."
It's not til later that I realize no one DESERVES quiches, but someone DOES deserve a kick in the pants. And that the reason I don't buy Chubby Hubby anymore is b/c I can't eat just one serving. I'm used to having the whole pint to myself. Therefore, it can't be in the house til I can control myself around it. :(
07-16-2003, 01:06 PM
I think a treat now and then is fine, but not if its triggering a binge. If it is, maybe you should lay off the treats, or make a plan ahead of time for exactly what you are going to eat, then only allow yourself to eat that :) Just my humble advice.
07-16-2003, 01:21 PM
SAPF - You made me laugh!
It's not til later that I realize no one DESERVES quiches, but someone DOES deserve a kick in the pants.
I had never thought about it that way! I guess that is why we treat ourselves...it feels earned, doesn't it?
Howie (that's my DB name too!), I certainly have to fight to keep my "treats" in check. Like some of the others have already indicated, it IS important to treat yourself (in a planned, controlled way) so that you don't feel deprived. I truly believe that you have to pick an eating and living style that you can maintain, even after you have lost the weight. That might not be true for everybody, everyone has their own approach to loosing weight, but I want to re-learn my eating habits and replace them with healthy ones.
You must be doing alright with including the treat night in your eating plan, because you have been VERY successful! :D Congrats! I believe that having "slip ups" or "binges", or moments of eating that don't go according to plan are part of the learning to eat healthy process. I have had MANY times where I have gone off track - but I believe that I learn from all of them. I do what you are doing with this post and think about why I didn't follow my plan and if my weight loss technique was a good one.
Guess that this is the tricky part about loosing weight...finding the balance between a "treat" and a "binge". I know that I still fight for this balance! :mad: V. frustrating.
I once saw an interesting post about what people use to treat themselves. I'll see if I can find it and put up the link.
07-16-2003, 01:37 PM
I know what you mean H-man. For me, it's a feeling of "I may never get this again, so I have to eat it all." and sometimes it's self-talk "I already blew it by eating (fill in the blank) so I may as well go ahead and eat everything else I've been missing for the past few days. I try to keep binge foods out of the house. When I want them, I go to a public place and eat them in front of other people. Binges are "secret" things, and I feel like if I eat a binge food in public, and stop at one portion, then I'm just giving myself a treat, not binging. But if I ever bring it home, I'll eat it until its gone. Then beat myself up about for the next 3 day or weeks or months.
07-16-2003, 02:03 PM
Thanks for the help and info. I guess I just need to be more careful. The pizza was the treat. I added the cheese and ice cream because I thought well it is treat night. Then after I ate it I thought that was stupid. It was treat night not binge night. See when I lost my first 190 I did it by binging every Friday night after weigh in. The thing is this time I don't want to binge. I want to get away from all of my old habits and start new ones.
I think a treat is good and by going over my calories for that day I think it helps in the weight loss. It tells my body I'm not starving it. I think that is why I don't hit to many plateaus. I just need to learn how to treat with out binging
07-16-2003, 04:29 PM
Sorry - can't find the link that I mentioned in my e-mail...I'll keep an eye out to see if I can find it...
07-16-2003, 04:58 PM
I understand what you are saying, I think, Howie. I also tend to eat the entire top layer of chocolate covered cherries instead of just one or two as a treat. When I eat more than a 'normal' portion of anything it is really a form of self punishment. Not just physically by feeling stuffed but also mentally because I then use that as an excuse to either proclaim myself a failure who has no self control or an excuse to keep eating. Either way that is just punishing me.
I also think you are wise to try to get it in control now because as we get closer to goal it will be harder to keep losing if we make a habit of all those additional calories.
Congratulations on the great job you have done, BTW. You are very inspirational.
07-16-2003, 05:21 PM
Of course I use food to treat myself. :doh: I learned it from Mom and Dad.:lol: They would have been great at training seals: Good grades = hot fudge sundae, School's out = steakhouse and desserts, Birthday = cake and ALL the favorites... etc. etc... Food was also used for consolation, pacification and filling in boring spots. Things would have been diferent if the rewards had been raw fish. Hmmmmmmmm
Perhaps I should be glad I'm not more of a blimp.:sumo:
My program says NO simple sugars or refined carbs for the first 3 weeks. (Seems like forever). Then "dessert" is OK 1x per week.
Sure there's time to feel deprived if you have the instant gratification gene... but you can learn to live with it.
I also discovered when I was a calorie counter that the damage I THOUGHT I had done with binges was usually far far worse than what I had actually done.... Which helped me keep with the program instead of throwing in the towel.
Another thing my program teaches (and re-teaches) is to slow down and SAVOR. In the time I take to have a :burger: :jeno: :chockiss: or whatever, I used to be able to have fries, the shake, the bread sticks, whole bag, and anything cooked but not nailed down etc. etc. etc.
Eating slow allows your stomach to (almost) keep up with your mouth.
Teeth brushing soon after helps, too... Especially if you use one of those Altoid-flavored super mentholated kinds!
I'm going to start a "treat-substitute" list... I started one on a different forum, and can't find it!! :lol:
07-16-2003, 11:08 PM
i've been watching this thread all day, and it's a great one.
for me, it's portion control. [and let's not go into the sizes of the portions i can manage! you'll all laugh at me for being concerned about it]
but i've also adopted the attitude that if i eat only my portion, then there's some left for another treat on another day. unfortunately, most of the times, things go stale before that hapens.
and i also allow myself a treat sometimes if i've hit my protein, veggie, fruit, and water goals for the day. and i generally don't want anything. i'm finding that if i eat enough protein and a piece of fruit during the day, i don't crave the cookie.
and if i choose the best quality thing at the moment, i don't feel so deprived. so that means a piece of godiva instead of hershey's. or a homemade chocolate chip cookie instead of a piece of store bought cake.
this whole issues ties into the self-care thread. treats are nice things, but we gotta figure out non-food rewards for ourselves.
my office has started a fitness challenge... we're divided into teams and getting points by exercising: 1 point [mile] for every 15 minutes. and the goal is to walk to new orleans [1300 miles] by september.
the reward??? FOOD!!!!! I've been begging for non-food rewards. no luck yet.
07-17-2003, 01:11 AM
I know what your saying about non food rewards but I doubt that I ever cut them out. That is just me. I love my favorite foods and they are a reward. However The amount of these foods is what I am willing to work on. What I have to work on.
I do have plenty of non food rewards in store also. When I lose my weight we are going to renew are wedding vows. I am going to get a new suit and a new wedding band. My band has gotten pretty bad form the years I worked outside. I am also going to buy the bike I have always wanted. No more cheap huffy but a real nice schwinn touring bike. And then there is always the fun of buying new clothes on the way down.
07-17-2003, 12:28 PM
why wait to get the bike? it sounds like it's quite an incentive for you. might help with the exercise thing.
we've discussed the idea of interim rewards in this forum. and it's important because we all have such a long way to go. one of us is collecting opals, i think.
when i hit the 200 pound lost mark, i bought a very nice watch, even though i still had more than 100 to lose. i've enjoyed watching it get looser.
these tangible acknowledgements of what we've accomplished are really important reminders that we 're doing it! step by step, pound by pound.
by the way, i'm glad you've joined us, howie. your website is interesting and your wife sounds wonderful!
07-17-2003, 12:36 PM
Most of my wants have to do with my final goal. I don't want the bike until I'm light enough not to tax it. Like I said though I always look forward to buying new clothes as the size goes down.
07-17-2003, 12:49 PM
I have thought about a bike. I haven't ridden one since high school. But as I've gotten heavier I've assumed it would be uncomfortable and that I'd hurt the bike. I plan to get Gem a tricycle for her third birthday next spring. I'd like us to be able to do family bike stuff eventually.
Any suggestions on types of bikes that supersize people can use? I've even looked at those three-wheelers, but storage space gets to be a problem. We have no garage, so bikes will have to go 'round to the garden shed in the back.
07-17-2003, 12:55 PM
Synger - I had one of the new mountain bikes - with a heavy frame at 297 lbs and I was fine. I just bought a big cushy gel seat for it.
07-17-2003, 01:41 PM
Synger, I bought the cheapist huffy at Meijer $89.00. I rode it all last summer at 370 lbs. No problems. I would not worry about hurting the bike they are tougher than that. I just don't want to get a more expensive one until I lose weight. At your weight I would not worry at all. Even the people at the bike shop here said they would handle my current weight. I guess it's just my thoughts and I don't want it till I've succedded.
07-17-2003, 02:01 PM
NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!! It's dangerous to reward your good works with food! Gotta get outta that mind set..honestly! No matter how small...it has to be a total and complete life style change! Reward yourself with a new piece of clothing, or a CD or a movie...but NOT FOOD!!!!!!!
07-17-2003, 02:51 PM
I already reward myself with books and cds constantly, whether I lose weight or not!!! I don't spend much on clothes or jewelry or shoes (my husband is a lucky man, I grew up a bargain shopper and remain one to this day) Books and cds are my vice...
Actually I have a new vice-exercise videos and dvd's! I love trying new ones all the time.
07-17-2003, 03:33 PM
You're right rewarding yourself with food is not good, but it's really such a hard thing to break. I've worked a daily reward into my food plan. I know that I won't stick to my eating plan unless I know that at the end of the day I'm going to get a sweet treat. Some days I look forward to it all day. Of course now my reward is either an 80 calorie TCBY sorbet bar, or a 110 calorie Pria Bar, instead of an entire carton of ice cream, but it's still my reward at the end of the day for getting through the day.
07-17-2003, 04:46 PM
We have to loose the way of thinking that food is a pleasure source...it's NOT. Americans view food as a way to reward, or comfort. Food is simply medication for your body. You need food to live, to breathe to exist. You do not need food to make you feel better. If you can see food as something that your body NEEDS to stay alive and nothing more than that, then it makes the whole treating yourself with food seem pointless and that desire will leave. When you buy food, buy it for the nutrition, buy it for what it will DO for you...don't buy it for taste. Get rid of the food that makes your mouth water and simply use food as a tool to stay alive! It has to be a total mind change in order for it to work...but if you can look at it in that light, then it becomes very easy to stay away from that which is bad for you, your body and your life.
07-17-2003, 05:00 PM
You are completely right, that does sound like much healthier thinking, but I have to admit that food really is a pleasure source for me. I like food and I like to eat.
What has helped me and my weight loss (and subsequent maintenance) is that when I want something SPECIFIC...I eat exactly what it is I want...for me, trying to substitute just doesn't cut it. I will STILL want what it is I wanted...then eat it (as well as what I ate in substitution).
The key for me is taking control of how MUCH I eat of what I really want. I have so little control over everything else in my life, taking control of my food intake has given me such a sense of empowerment.
For me, this system keeps my cravings in check and gives me a sense of control over something in my life where I have very little control.
07-17-2003, 06:25 PM
Please don't think you are talking to someone that does not understand that struggle...I was 235 pounds and eating everything in site...simply because I LOVED to eat and I LOVED the taste.
But I guess the important thing is that if you can control those treat times and keep it in serious moderation, then do what works for you...it's different for everyone...levels of control need to be met differently.
07-17-2003, 07:40 PM
I guess I can see your point but I feel like my treats keep me on the plan. There definitely has to be portion control and I'm still working on that but to cut out food because I canít control myself thatís torture in itself. God made the food to taste good for a reason. He wants us to enjoy it. Just not to extremes. Itís different if your addicted to drugs or alcohol those are things you can cut out completely. With food I think we need to learn to handle all food. So when confronted with it we can have a normal portion and be satisfied. My favorite is pizza and it can be a trigger food. They have it all the time at work. If I cut that totally out then I would really feel deprived and jealous. I think that makes it more of a trigger food. If I can learn to have it in a normal portion then I can enjoy it and have a nice lunch with my co-workers. Then itís not going to be so much of a trigger food because I can have it anytime I want. I am looking for a total life change but not by doing without but by controlling the amount.
07-18-2003, 12:18 AM
Such a big topic! food is so much more than taste.. it brings people together, allows us to share. speaks of hospitality, of love, comfort, memories. it's such an emotional topic.. i agree with michelle in many respects: bottom line, food is just fuel. but we can't really live that way. we have to control how we view food, and that doesn't mean to cut out the taste.
after all, like howie says, it's here for us to enjoy. although the good lord certainly did not make pringles!!! he/she made fruit and vegs, meat, nuts, etc. we have taken these basic, wholesome ingredients and done some pretty bizarre things with them in order to create a demand.
hmmmm starting to babble pointlessly... i think it's time for a SF popsicle and then bed.