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AmberLS
03-20-2014, 09:03 PM
So I am out of my IP vitamins and I went and bought all the supplements and vitamins at Walmart, I compared labels and such but of course my coach is not ok with it so I can't get any assistance from him. The only thing I can't find is the anti oxidant that isn't in gel caps. But what I want to know is on the vitamins do I take the recommended daily dose or should I be taking more because of the diet restrictions? Have you taken non IP vitamins and done ok?


karkrazy13
03-20-2014, 09:15 PM
So I am out of my IP vitamins and I went and bought all the supplements and vitamins at Walmart, I compared labels and such but of course my coach is not ok with it so I can't get any assistance from him. The only thing I can't find is the anti oxidant that isn't in gel caps. But what I want to know is on the vitamins do I take the recommended daily dose or should I be taking more because of the diet restrictions? Have you taken non IP vitamins and done ok?

I have been using all alternative supplements :) I use Nature's Way Alive! Women's Energy multivitamin, and Swanson Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium Citrate, and Biotin. I also take Spring Valley Fish, Flax & Borage Oil for my Omega-3-6-9's. :) I have done just fine with these supplements, and I take the recommended dosage.

AmberLS
03-20-2014, 10:12 PM
:)


lisa32989
03-21-2014, 02:52 AM
Be sure when you replace the omega 3 to only get omega 3, not 3-6-9. If you do your research, the American diet is way too high in 6. We need omega 3s badly because there us little in the diet unless all your meat us grass fed/finished and all your chicken/eggs/pork are pasture-raised. Of the animals we eat are fee corn and /or kept inside, they don't produce adequate omega 3s. Most veg oil is omega 6 and it off-balances us. 9s aren't usually in need of supplementation.

There's a great book on the subject: Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill

For the other supplements, I used info from the alternate threads and did some label comparing online to make my choices. I use Centrum Silver (it has calcium), Vitacost Potassium, Vitacost Magnesium Citrate, and an Omega 3 I was using prior to starting IP. I've read a LOT about Omega 3s. The other thing to know is the purity is important. I found a website that compares purity for medical-grade Omega 3s and I made my purchase decision after reading the testing comparisons. I buy that one online.

The biggest takeaway without doing all the reading I did: When you open your bottle of fish oil and sniff, it shouldn't smell fishy. Just as fresh fish isn't so fresh if it has a fishy smell, fish oil is pretty unstable and can easily go rancid. Rancid fish oil increases oxidative stress inside the body (the REVERSE of an antioxidant!)

CarbLover443
03-21-2014, 09:10 AM
Be sure when you replace the omega 3 to only get omega 3, not 3-6-9. If you do your research, the American diet is way too high in 6. We need omega 3s badly because there us little in the diet unless all your meat us grass fed/finished and all your chicken/eggs/pork are pasture-raised. Of the animals we eat are fee corn and /or kept inside, they don't produce adequate omega 3s. Most veg oil is omega 6 and it off-balances us. 9s aren't usually in need of supplementation.

There's a great book on the subject: Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill

For the other supplements, I used info from the alternate threads and did some label comparing online to make my choices. I use Centrum Silver (it has calcium), Vitacost Potassium, Vitacost Magnesium Citrate, and an Omega 3 I was using prior to starting IP. I've read a LOT about Omega 3s. The other thing to know is the purity is important. I found a website that compares purity for medical-grade Omega 3s and I made my purchase decision after reading the testing comparisons. I buy that one online.

The biggest takeaway without doing all the reading I did: When you open your bottle of fish oil and sniff, it shouldn't smell fishy. Just as fresh fish isn't so fresh if it has a fishy smell, fish oil is pretty unstable and can easily go rancid. Rancid fish oil increases oxidative stress inside the body (the REVERSE of an antioxidant!)

Lisa - My IP omega 3's do smell fishy as well as taste a bit fishy. Does anyone else's? I'm wondering now if mine are bad?

Yayalaine
03-21-2014, 09:11 AM
The ID omega I was sold in my clinic smells unbelievably BAD. Like rotten fish!

I just couldn't bear to even take one. Maybe it had become rancid? I have been taking Mega-red flaxseed oil instead simply because they were already in the cabinet. I need to find an alternative also.

OlivePitts
03-21-2014, 09:22 AM
I have purchased 3 bottles of the IP Omegas. The last two I have purchased (the first time was the old formulation) have smelled horrible. I would prefer to buy at least my Omega and Calcium from a different source, but my clinic sent a strongly worded email that reminded everyone that we had signed a contract that we would follow the program which includes purchasing their supplements.

wildirishrose
03-21-2014, 09:37 AM
Does anyone have a good alternative Liquid vitamin? I have a challenge swallowing and for whatever reason, pill vitamins tend to make my stomach upset. I've tried taking them with and without food and would prefer a liquid if there is one available.

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 11:38 AM
Omega 3s should NOT be fishy smelling and DEFINITELY NOT smell like rotten fish. I would return those at once!

I found my fish oils by researching international fish oil standards program (http://www.ifosprogram.com/industry-home). There were only a handful that met the quality standards I was looking for.

I order mine online and get a discount for buying multiple bottles at once.

Do some reading about rancid fish oil supplements and you will quit taking any of the cheap ones. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for (and other times, you get charged too much for something of cheap quality).

I had told my coach from day-1 that my omega 3s were non-negotiable, unless theirs had passed the same quality standards testing.

jendilly
03-21-2014, 12:14 PM
Lisa - My IP omega 3's do smell fishy as well as taste a bit fishy. Does anyone else's? I'm wondering now if mine are bad?

Interesting...IP changed their Omega 3's recently (my last bottle is different from my first) and I noticed that the new ones smell WAY more fishy than the ones we had before.

I've looked at labels for all of the supplements while at stores and haven't found ones that are exactly the same, so I've been scared to make the switch. I'd love any help in which ones to choose. I mentioned to my coach about getting different ones at a store and of course she advised against it because of the purity in the ones IP sells and you don't know for sure what you're getting elsewhere. I bought potassium from the store when I ran out over a weekend, but have been nervous about it being okay.

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 12:18 PM
Interesting...IP changed their Omega 3's recently (my last bottle is different from my first) and I noticed that the new ones smell WAY more fishy than the ones we had before.

I've looked at labels for all of the supplements while at stores and haven't found ones that are exactly the same, so I've been scared to make the switch. I'd love any help in which ones to choose. I mentioned to my coach about getting different ones at a store and of course she advised against it because of the purity in the ones IP sells and you don't know for sure what you're getting elsewhere. I bought potassium from the store when I ran out over a weekend, but have been nervous about it being okay.
Just because an IP coach says their stuff is "pure" doesn't make it so

A while back people were being told all the whey was from grass-fed and is non-GMO. This is such a HUGE controversial issue right now. Don't you think if that were so, they'd announce it on their labelling??? I live in the Show-Me state!

Coaches need to sell products. And if we're using a coach, we need to buy product from them (that is what pays them, unless they're charging per visit, then I wouldn't fee obligated to buy anything).

AmberLS
03-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Great advice Lisa! I label compared also so I think I am good, and honestly my enzymes seem to work better.
Also my clinic OMega's smell funny also!

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Great advice Lisa! I label compared also so I think I am good, and honestly my enzymes seem to work better.
Also my clinic OMega's smell funny also!
I had to go online to find a good quality one but I think one of the ones that passed the rigorous testing is available in health food stores.

willsea
03-21-2014, 01:26 PM
Thats a great link on the Fish Oil. I didn't realize what the IFOS stamped on my omega bottle was. I am happy with my choice now, thanks for sharing.

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 02:51 PM
Thats a great link on the Fish Oil. I didn't realize what the IFOS stamped on my omega bottle was. I am happy with my choice now, thanks for sharing.
Ah...you buy good ones!
As you can see, I didn't name mine. I'm not trying to sell products. But if anyone wants to know, PM is always available. I really prefer if people learn the reasons for doing what they do.

willsea
03-21-2014, 04:14 PM
Apparenly I have been buying good ones (I had no clue). I learnt that spending $1.75 more for a bottle (over the IP) was a better option for me since the smell of the IP Omega's made me nauseous. My Coach at the time told me to place the pills in the freezer so they wouldn't smell (I wasn't impressed with that answer) and immediately quit buying the IP omega’s. It worked for me, plus my omega’s now don’t smell like fish!!

Just for reference for those of you out there, my local health food store carries 3 of the approved brands each with the IFOS Stamp from the link that Lisa shared above.

So now let us talk Multi Vitamin. All multi’s have and array of different items. Is there a specific item I Should or Should Not be looking for? I have gone though many multi’s, it was a trial and error.

FacingIt27
03-21-2014, 04:38 PM
Yes, the fish oil that the clinics switched to in february smell and taste awful, i remembered reading lisa's advice awhile back and told them that was not a good sign. I did finish out the bottle, but then bought my own. Interesting to see everyone had that experience!

FacingIt27
03-21-2014, 04:40 PM
and when i told my coach about the rancid thing she told me "oh thats not good, just buy your own after this then, i don't like these ones either!' I appreciated that she didnt try to spin it. but its troubling they are continuing to sell these. Also, troubling how dark they are, makes me wonder....

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 04:42 PM
Apparenly I have been buying good ones (I had no clue). I learnt that spending $1.75 more for a bottle (over the IP) was a better option for me since the smell of the IP Omega's made me nauseous. My Coach at the time told me to place the pills in the freezer so they wouldn't smell (I wasn't impressed with that answer) and immediately quit buying the IP omegaís. It worked for me, plus my omegaís now donít smell like fish!!

Just for reference for those of you out there, my local health food store carries 3 of the approved brands each with the IFOS Stamp from the link that Lisa shared above.

So now let us talk Multi Vitamin. All multiís have and array of different items. Is there a specific item I Should or Should Not be looking for? I have gone though many multiís, it was a trial and error.
You could probably drive yourself crazy trying to match IPs multi exactly. I just went for Centrum Silver

willsea
03-21-2014, 05:38 PM
My Trial and errors with Muti's were because I would be sick to my stomach within 5 min of taking my muilt (with and without food). I found a generaic brand that I am happy with, I was just curious if there was something found with research that we should or shouldn't be looking for.
I will stick with what is working.
Thank you for the imput :)

murphypuppy
03-21-2014, 08:08 PM
I take Nordic Natural omega 3's. Not fishy and ultra purified... I've been very impressed with the quality.

IdealProteinNewbie
03-21-2014, 09:22 PM
I agree with everyone...when IP changed their formula the new ones smelled terrible!

Another way to tell if the Omega you're buying is a good one is freezing 1 capsule overnight. If it stays liquid and is "squish-able" in the morning, it's a safe bet that it's good quality.

lisa32989
03-21-2014, 09:47 PM
I agree with everyone...when IP changed their formula the new ones smelled terrible!

Another way to tell if the Omega you're buying is a good one is freezing 1 capsule overnight. If it stays liquid and is "squish-able" in the morning, it's a safe bet that it's good quality.
Mine are pretty hard to start with. I think it is the gelcap they're in. Its pretty firm.

AmberLS
03-21-2014, 11:52 PM
Good to know all this, I had no idea about the Omega 3-6-9 which is what I got, I will look for an Omega 3.

Anyone use Vitacost? I bought some WF products and got a great deal was wondering about vitamins.

lisa32989
03-22-2014, 07:26 AM
Good to know all this, I had no idea about the Omega 3-6-9 which is what I got, I will look for an Omega 3.

Anyone use Vitacost? I bought some WF products and got a great deal was wondering about vitamins.

I get great deals in multi, potassium, mag cit and my enzymes there
I don't get my omegas there

IdealProteinNewbie
03-22-2014, 08:03 AM
Mine are pretty hard to start with. I think it is the gelcap they're in. Its pretty firm.

Good point. I should have added the fact that it will only work with ones that are already squishy to begin with.

texaschick0925
04-09-2014, 02:14 PM
Omega 3s should NOT be fishy smelling and DEFINITELY NOT smell like rotten fish. I would return those at once!

I found my fish oils by researching international fish oil standards program (http://www.ifosprogram.com/industry-home). There were only a handful that met the quality standards I was looking for.

I order mine online and get a discount for buying multiple bottles at once.

Do some reading about rancid fish oil supplements and you will quit taking any of the cheap ones. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for (and other times, you get charged too much for something of cheap quality).

I had told my coach from day-1 that my omega 3s were non-negotiable, unless theirs had passed the same quality standards testing.

Could you tell me what kind of alternative you use for this? I can't find one anywhere that measures up. I am using alternatives for every other vitamin but this one. Thanks!

booklover811
04-09-2014, 08:56 PM
This is all really interesting! I am almost done with my bottle of IP Omega, and really think I'm going to purchase my own from now on. Thanks for all the great info everyone!

AmberLS
04-09-2014, 09:18 PM
I have now been using alternative vitamins for 3 weeks without any problems. I purchased the brands that Walmart carries. Doing great!

IdealProtein14
08-11-2014, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the great vitamin advice!!!

SarahBee_
08-11-2014, 08:13 PM
Very helpful thread. I asked my coach off the bat about whether I could use other vitamins and she gave me the expected purity talk. I think I'm going to figure out some other options for when my first bottles are done.

I absolutely detest fish so the IP Omegas have been extra gross for me. I had one of my cats sniffing around tonight trying to figure out where the small was coming from.

Have any Canadians found good online sources?

canadjineh
08-11-2014, 09:53 PM
Very helpful thread. I asked my coach off the bat about whether I could use other vitamins and she gave me the expected purity talk. I think I'm going to figure out some other options for when my first bottles are done.

I absolutely detest fish so the IP Omegas have been extra gross for me. I had one of my cats sniffing around tonight trying to figure out where the small was coming from.

Have any Canadians found good online sources?

Hi SarahBee, I like Natural Factors & Jamiesons - they are the ones I use since they are Gluten Free and have generally good reviews. Natural Factors have organic herb fields very near us and my BIL has worked for them for many years - I met the founder of the company many years ago and he was a pretty honest and responsible guy.

Liana

Ariel13
08-13-2014, 01:45 PM
bump

Tanklan
08-13-2014, 02:16 PM
This is exactly the information I was looking for today! Thanks everyone for your input!

bcart1618
08-13-2014, 03:11 PM
Thanks for the bump Ariel13! My vitamins are starting to run out and I need to stock up before moving. Looks like I'll be doing some research in store tonight!;):mag:

Bull
08-13-2014, 08:02 PM
Hi SarahBee, I like Natural Factors & Jamiesons - they are the ones I use since they are Gluten Free and have generally good reviews. Natural Factors have organic herb fields very near us and my BIL has worked for them for many years - I met the founder of the company many years ago and he was a pretty honest and responsible guy.

Liana

Liana,
could you please list the vitamins that you take as alternatives. I have been thinking of getting alternatives too but didn't know where to begin! This is a great thread and I appreciate the guidance. It would make it so much easier to just go and buy them from the shelf if I just have the names. PM me if you don't want to share here on the thread please. thankyou!

Bull
08-13-2014, 08:04 PM
Oh and yes the omega 3 are GROSS!!! my coach told me that it was the krill tat made it smell too bad. hmmm now that I have read this thread it really makes me wonder!

darthkitten
08-14-2014, 04:36 PM
THANK YOU THANK YOU karkrazy13 for mentioning Swansons - I just bought all my vitamins there and was shocked at the cost savings!

twinmom2006
08-17-2014, 03:12 PM
Thanks for this advice. Once I finish up my first month's supply of IP vitamins, I am going to follow your lead and order from Vitacost. I really appreciate your post!