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murphypuppy
03-11-2014, 01:06 PM
I started this IP because I have heard such great things about it. I love the diet! I have lost 20 pounds in under 5 weeks however I can't stand my coach! He is not helpful in answering questions, has a sleazy car salesman vibe to him, accused me of cheating the 1st week because I only lost 4 pounds and he was expecting more and I just don't think our personalities mesh well. Unfortunately, he is the only provider of these products in my area. The thought of dealing with him for the next 4-6 months makes my skin crawl. I'm tempted to try to do this by buying products on ebay. Has anyone tried to do this without a coach?:?::?::?:


danilynn
03-11-2014, 01:16 PM
my husband and i bought actual IP chips off ebay. My only complaint with that is.. it did not come with the actual box, the packages in the box arrived in an envelope big enough to have 7 of the packets placed in it (instead of the original box). He emailed the seller to ask why this was not ship with the original box and the seller responded they never had issues before. So to each is their own. That was the last we ordered, since then we have ordered the alt. products that are within guide line of the IP way.

Hope this helps.

Ps. For the coach -- have you talked to him about this? Call him out and let him know YOU are the one who is paying for help and expect you two to be on the same team. etc.

murphypuppy
03-11-2014, 01:25 PM
danilynn - Oh shoot! I was hoping that the quality of the ebay items would be exactly the same.. Oh well - Thanks for the information!!


Hiker88
03-11-2014, 01:28 PM
I didn't have a great experience when I went in for a consult with a local dealer (the only one in the area). Fortunately I knew someone who is a dealer from a distant town. She agreed to take me on and ships my food once a month. I weigh and measure myself then we have a telephone apt once a week. It works great! I would try to go that route if you can find a good coach elsewhere.

danilynn
03-11-2014, 01:46 PM
danilynn - Oh shoot! I was hoping that the quality of the ebay items would be exactly the same.. Oh well - Thanks for the information!!

it all depends on the seller really. We didn't bother to ask for the original box -- we just assumed and was quite shocked it didn't come with it.

dak1lls
03-11-2014, 02:28 PM
I started this IP because I have heard such great things about it. I love the diet! I have lost 20 pounds in under 5 weeks however I can't stand my coach! He is not helpful in answering questions, has a sleazy car salesman vibe to him, accused me of cheating the 1st week because I only lost 4 pounds and he was expecting more and I just don't think our personalities mesh well. Unfortunately, he is the only provider of these products in my area. The thought of dealing with him for the next 4-6 months makes my skin crawl. I'm tempted to try to do this by buying products on ebay. Has anyone tried to do this without a coach?:?::?::?:

I was dissatisfied with the coaching and the cost of the products, and after 8 weeks ventured off on my own, with the help of this web site. I switched to alternative products that are IP compliant and are much less expensive...less than half the price.

There are alternative threads you should read through. Also, I am attaching the alternative requirements guidelines someone else came up with. This is handy when looking to buy products on your own that fit the IP protocol. If you decide to switch to products other than IP brand you will find a lot of variety and most are nearly identical to what IP sells.

You can buy foods at Nashua Nurtrition, Diet Direct, and other sites, as well as locally at Walmart, Sam's Club, Target, Costco, and even your regular grocery store.

There is an alternative IP program, for people with certain medical concerns. However, this is not that...it is just doing IP using alternative packaged protein foods.

Good luck to you!

sarahBell
03-11-2014, 03:21 PM
I started this IP because I have heard such great things about it. I love the diet! I have lost 20 pounds in under 5 weeks however I can't stand my coach! He is not helpful in answering questions, has a sleazy car salesman vibe to him, accused me of cheating the 1st week because I only lost 4 pounds and he was expecting more and I just don't think our personalities mesh well. Unfortunately, he is the only provider of these products in my area. The thought of dealing with him for the next 4-6 months makes my skin crawl. I'm tempted to try to do this by buying products on ebay. Has anyone tried to do this without a coach?:?::?::?:

I am doing this sans the coach. I get my help and support from all the IPers on here.

Remember you are your coach's "employer" and if he is acting like all he cares about is money then you need to lay things out on the table. Also it seems like so many coach complaints show that they do not get proper training and a little 411 that no two people will lose weight the same. Each of our blue prints is different- we do not fit all into one profile and the expectations that you should have lost more is crazy.

That is my 2 cents -says the girl with no coach LOL.

sarahBell
03-11-2014, 03:26 PM
You can buy foods at Nashua Nurtrition, Diet Direct, and other sites, as well as locally at Walmart, Sam's Club, Target, Costco, and even your regular grocery store.





Other than the restricted, RTD shakes what else can you get from sams or walmart?

murphypuppy
03-11-2014, 04:04 PM
Dak1lls- thank you for all the information!! When you made the switch to alternatives did you notice a decrease in weight loss or was it about the same? I'm a little nervous to make the switch....

murphypuppy
03-11-2014, 04:07 PM
SarahBell- I totally agree! This forum provides such a wealth of information and support! It's great - so glad I stumbled upon it!!

ReenHag
03-11-2014, 04:09 PM
Other than the restricted, RTD shakes what else can you get from sams or walmart?

I get detour bars at my wholesale club.

I started this IP because I have heard such great things about it. I love the diet! I have lost 20 pounds in under 5 weeks however I can't stand my coach! He is not helpful in answering questions, has a sleazy car salesman vibe to him, accused me of cheating the 1st week because I only lost 4 pounds and he was expecting more and I just don't think our personalities mesh well. Unfortunately, he is the only provider of these products in my area. The thought of dealing with him for the next 4-6 months makes my skin crawl. I'm tempted to try to do this by buying products on ebay. Has anyone tried to do this without a coach?:?::?::?:

I have never had a coach, and have lost over fifty pounds in my five months OP. Hubby has lost over seventy pounds in the same time frame, and has done the last two months without a coach.

danilynn
03-11-2014, 04:15 PM
murphypuppy-- i never started the IP with a coach. So i can only be biased ;) when i say I have used the Alt products and still losing weight. Though in the beginning i did a lot of reading on this forum first so i could really understand the basics. To this date, i am still learning from all the ladies here and i am loosing weight. My weigh in is tomorrow morning on my scale .. this will be my 2nd official week. Everyone loses weight at their own pace.

sarahBell
03-11-2014, 06:45 PM
do coaches get any form of sensitivity training? I think because it seems that most (maybe I am wrong) have been a client of IP and lost weight themselves, you would think that they would have a clue how to treat a person who is embarking on a looooooooong journey/life style change with compassion and care- not setting these un real expectations for everyone

Bellamack
03-11-2014, 06:57 PM
Dak1lls- thank you for all the information!! When you made the switch to alternatives did you notice a decrease in weight loss or was it about the same? I'm a little nervous to make the switch....

I lost the same average per week on alternatives as I did when I used IP products. Just do your homework, you can ask question here anytime.

murphypuppy
03-11-2014, 07:44 PM
Yay! I found another clinic - it's a decent drive away but I think it will be worth it! Just talking to them over the phone, I got a better vibe - way less "swarmy cars salesman" and more "health coach".. Woot-Woo! Relieved!!

wannabfitt
03-11-2014, 11:29 PM
My Coach "Rant" is that I'm close to getting to Goal. I've been asking a lot about how maintenance is going to be. It's very expensive weekly and I'm looking forward to doing this on my own once in maintenance. Maybe it's the "weight watchers" in me where you don't pay anything within 2# below goal. My Coach wants to continue me on the supplements and add meal replacements. She's also getting some machines to help tone the body but I just don't know what to do. I'm sticking with her for now but once we get to Goal, aren't we taught how much carbs to eat? She's looking at me as $$$. I've done so well I'm almost scared to eat normal again. She told me the other day that she wants me there weekly! I have been given hints that I can't afford this much longer. Any help you can give me I'd appreciate. I need more advice than products. I really want to know if any maintainers count carbs ?? thanks

MustangMolly
03-12-2014, 10:00 AM
My Coach "Rant" is that I'm close to getting to Goal. I've been asking a lot about how maintenance is going to be. It's very expensive weekly and I'm looking forward to doing this on my own once in maintenance. Maybe it's the "weight watchers" in me where you don't pay anything within 2# below goal. My Coach wants to continue me on the supplements and add meal replacements. She's also getting some machines to help tone the body but I just don't know what to do. I'm sticking with her for now but once we get to Goal, aren't we taught how much carbs to eat? She's looking at me as $$$. I've done so well I'm almost scared to eat normal again. She told me the other day that she wants me there weekly! I have been given hints that I can't afford this much longer. Any help you can give me I'd appreciate. I need more advice than products. I really want to know if any maintainers count carbs ?? thanks

Look in the stickies for the phase sheets. Your coach should have given you sheets for each phase and the fourth phase, which is maintenance, gives meal examples. You may also want to check out the thread for maintainers.
I had a coach who wanted us to ring a stupid bell when we had a loss at our weigh in. I think that was so he knew he had an IP client there, I only ever saw him at my consultation and when I was paying for my food.

mars735
03-12-2014, 10:21 AM
My Coach "Rant" is that I'm close to getting to Goal. I've been asking a lot about how maintenance is going to be. It's very expensive weekly and I'm looking forward to doing this on my own once in maintenance. Maybe it's the "weight watchers" in me where you don't pay anything within 2# below goal. My Coach wants to continue me on the supplements and add meal replacements. She's also getting some machines to help tone the body but I just don't know what to do. I'm sticking with her for now but once we get to Goal, aren't we taught how much carbs to eat? She's looking at me as $$$. I've done so well I'm almost scared to eat normal again. She told me the other day that she wants me there weekly! I have been given hints that I can't afford this much longer. Any help you can give me I'd appreciate. I need more advice than products. I really want to know if any maintainers count carbs ?? thanks

I agree, it sounds like your coach sees $$ signs! You can find up-to-date Phase 4 sheets in the stickies on 3FC. The IP maintainers thread has veteran maintainers who are incredibly helpful & supportive. You might also consider re-joining WeightWatchers. I did so after reaching goal with IP. WW required that I pay for 6 weeks of weigh-ins. Then it's lifetime membership, requiring 1/month weigh in for free as long as I am within 2 lbs over goal weight. The accountability is great without needing to follow their weight loss system.

Packaged meals from IP may be convenient, & even P1 packets are nice once in a while (tho many cheaper alternatives). But you need not pay any more money to your coach, once you phase off, imo. Definitely be clear and firm with her about what you are willing to spend.
Huge congratulations on your success!

ChipnDip
03-12-2014, 06:44 PM
I feel like a know more than my coach! She has been being trained for as long as I have been with her. She is sweet and means well though. Once in maintenance you only have 1 IP day after your cheat day unless you want to keep eating IP snacks and things. I don't pay anything beyond the product I buy so I am in control of the $$. I've heard of people having to pay a penalty to their clinic when they restart. Mine encourages phasing off since I have a big goal. They tried to sell me the cleanse today since I am in week 4 but I didn't want to do it.

AmberLS
03-12-2014, 09:21 PM
I feel like a know more than my coach! She has been being trained for as long as I have been with her. She is sweet and means well though. Once in maintenance you only have 1 IP day after your cheat day unless you want to keep eating IP snacks and things. I don't pay anything beyond the product I buy so I am in control of the $$. I've heard of people having to pay a penalty to their clinic when they restart. Mine encourages phasing off since I have a big goal. They tried to sell me the cleanse today since I am in week 4 but I didn't want to do it.

ChipnDip is there a way to friend each other on here! I am also in week four, my goal weight is close to yours as well as my start weight! It would be nice to keep in touch with someone who is in the same phases as me.

My coach is pretty nice. He's definitely all business at times, but he encourages phasing off and has no fees to restart or to just buy products from him in the future. I too plan to keep certain snacks for breakfast and IP shakes may forever be my breakfast since I'm not a big breakfast eater.

dak1lls
03-12-2014, 11:50 PM
Dak1lls- thank you for all the information!! When you made the switch to alternatives did you notice a decrease in weight loss or was it about the same? I'm a little nervous to make the switch....

My losses remained consistent after I switched. I was really nervous too, but all the help here was the best support I could have hoped for.

Sarahbell, I only bought RTD's and restricted bars from Sams and Walmart, since I mostly purchased from Nashua Nutrition. My daily drink however is the Vcore Vantage from Complete Nutrition. My SIL lives in the twin cities and said she buys from them as well. Their protein powder is absolutely delicious and they will give you free samples. Menards has expanded their section of foods with protein bars and drinks too. I found Muscle Milk 100 calories there this week.

dak1lls
03-12-2014, 11:59 PM
Wannabfitt, I felt the same fear of maintenance and felt so comfortable with P1 and P2. The maintainers thread is a great help for questions and to see how others are maintaining. Definitely read the P4 sheet and even review the "explanation of P3" sheet. It will take some adjusting and you will learn what works for you. However, the phase sheets do explain to eat the P3 type of breakfast, fats at lunch, and carbs at dinner....and to not mix fat with carbs. Also, the P1 day after a fun day is important. I have found that a paleo type of diet works well for me in maintenance.

wannabfitt
03-13-2014, 12:04 AM
Thanks everyone! Will print out those sheets soon. What a great Board this is!

ChipnDip
03-15-2014, 07:10 PM
ChipnDip is there a way to friend each other on here! I am also in week four, my goal weight is close to yours as well as my start weight! It would be nice to keep in touch with someone who is in the same phases as me.

My coach is pretty nice. He's definitely all business at times, but he encourages phasing off and has no fees to restart or to just buy products from him in the future. I too plan to keep certain snacks for breakfast and IP shakes may forever be my breakfast since I'm not a big breakfast eater.

Hi Amber,

I'm not really sure. I'm new to all this posting stuff. Maybe someone can tell us? I do see you can make someone a buddy.

I am most challenged with the lack of face to face group support in this diet. I'm hoping these boards fill that need for me?

AmberLS
03-15-2014, 10:48 PM
Hi Amber,

I'm not really sure. I'm new to all this posting stuff. Maybe someone can tell us? I do see you can make someone a buddy.

I am most challenged with the lack of face to face group support in this diet. I'm hoping these boards fill that need for me?

I have found the boards to be a great place and I added you to my buddy list, I'm not really sure what that does though! LOL
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