Weight Loss Support - "Faturdays" as a reward. Thoughts?




kaybee1
03-10-2014, 06:30 PM
Hi all,

So one of my best friends who has always been a larger girl (she's about 5'9" and i believe she told me her heaviest was about 220lb), recently lost and kept off A TON OF WEIGHT (don't know exactly how much but she looks awesome) and it's been going on 2 years. Anyway, she did it by going to the gym 5 days a week and being very strict about not slipping on her healthy eating during the week but she wasn't crazily restricting herself - being French Canadian meat & certain carbs are still a staple in her diet, just more portion controlled. However, she allowed herself to indulge on "Faturdays".

She wouldn't go crazy, but when Saturday rolled around she drank whatever she wanted to, ate whatever she felt like and didn't count calories or feel ashamed for it - she just didn't care and let herself have fun. It was the one day of the week where she allowed herself to relax and take a "break" from her regular eat/gym schedule.

I've never tried this technique, but I'm wondering if anyone else has? Do you think it encourages binging and then a slippery slope to giving yourself allowances throughout the week? Or do you usually give yourself allowances during the week anyway and maybe a reward system like Faturdays might actually work to keep you on track during the weekdays?

I'm thinking about trying it out - the one day i can have a few beers, make that delicious mac and cheese casserole i've been craving or have deliciously bad snack with a movie, without worrying about counting my calories or feeling bad about what i just ate.

What do you guys think? :?:


Mrs Snark
03-10-2014, 06:36 PM
I wish (wish, wish, wish!) this kind of thing would work for me but it doesn't. But it DOES work really well for other people! Only you can discover if it works for YOU! You've got nothing to lose by trying! If it sounds like a plan you can live with long-term, it sure seems worth giving it a shot, right?!

If you do decide to do it, maybe give it a more positive name than "Faturdays", though, lol! :) Relaxaday? Enjoyaday? Funday? :)

kaybee1
03-10-2014, 06:43 PM
Lmao, I actually like the name Faturdays! To me it's funny and kind of rebellious - plus it might remind you that you're being fat for the day but make sure it's only for THAT day! Thanks for the advice!


LORRILYE1127
03-10-2014, 07:31 PM
I just started counting calories at the end of January and I also have Faturday (love that) worked into my weekly schedule. It is working amazingly for me! It helps me stay focused all week long and gives me something to look forward to. I feel in control and I am doing better than I ever have at losing weight and sticking to a plan.

Locke
03-10-2014, 07:31 PM
I have tried something like this before. It didn't work. Faturday would lead to Fatsunday, Fatmonday, Fatuesday... etc ad infinitum. I eat intuitively right now and if I'm hungry for something I eat it. I stop when I'm full. I don't eat with the intention to overeat.

kaybee1
03-10-2014, 08:35 PM
Locke, do you restrict yourself from certain foods or are you practicing portion control?

EagleRiverDee
03-10-2014, 08:55 PM
If it works for her, I say go for it. I've always heard "cheat days" are risky- a "cheat meal" is better because you can plow through an awful lot of calories in a single day, but it's harder to do that type of damage in a single meal. But obviously it works for her.

NYFLAgirl
03-10-2014, 08:58 PM
I do this but just call it my "cheat day" (although I think Faturday is kind of funny and my day is also on Saturday). I still work out on my cheat day but I do allow myself to eat and drink whatever I want. It really has worked for me. I think it actually has helped me stay on plan and eat healthy during the week and it's something I look forward to. Sometimes my cheat day changes from Sat to Sun though depending on my schedule.

nostoneunturned
03-10-2014, 09:05 PM
It does not work for me. I have issues with binge/emotional eating however. It opens a portal that sucks me right back in, maybe not the first time, but eventually. Since I tend to go overboard on "free days" (or even free meals, really) I find myself hyper restricting to make up and just generally feeling very obsessive and negative about the whole process. Therefore leading to more binges. I would think if there are any type of binging issues you are dealing with, eating this way is very risky.

freelancemomma
03-10-2014, 09:12 PM
No-holds-barred meals work for me, but no-holds-barred days would be too risky. I can do A LOT of damage in a day. As others have said, you'll have to experiment to find out what works and what doesn't work for you.

Freelance

Waterbunny77
03-10-2014, 09:17 PM
I think it depends on the person. I know I could not have Faturdays, it would definitely mess me up, or it seems like it will. I think in some people it will cause them to start to binge but only they would know and hopefully not by trial and error.

I have a couple of holidays where I'm going to a buffet so I set those days ahead for me to eat what I want. One will be Easter and the other Mother's Day unless we don't hit a buffet on the latter.

Though I think it's good never to deprive yourself everyone has to see what's best for them. I'm quite surprised with myself being this is the first time I'm not ravenous on this diet. Maybe because I've up my protein a bit, I'm really not sure. :)

Waterbunny77
03-10-2014, 09:19 PM
No-holds-barred meals work for me, but no-holds-barred days would be too risky. I can do A LOT of damage in a day. As others have said, you'll have to experiment to find out what works and what doesn't work for you.

Freelance

Same here, as a former bulimic I would probably try to get a lot of food in on my one day. Not the binging kind of day but one close to it that would actually throw some weight or water weight my way. But one meal I could handle. If I did more than that I would feel pretty guilty also.

novangel
03-10-2014, 09:30 PM
Cheat meals but not cheat days.

kaybee1
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone. I don't think i've really had an issue with binging per se, but I would say that I do have an issue with portion control. I think if I try the faturdays thing, I'll continue to be mindful of my portions but I wont restrict myself from the carbs or whatever my selection is. We'll see how it goes, but as another poster said - you won't know until you try!

IanG
03-10-2014, 10:02 PM
I drink what I want alcohol-wise. I stopped drinking a few months ago and it made no difference to my weight loss (in fact I gained). I draw the line at eat-what-I-want though, even once a week.

Don't get me wrong. There is a time for me to go off plan, but once a week is not it. Being in good company is worth it. Or at a great restaurant. But not on a Faturday for Faturday's sake.

I agree with novangel...Cheat meals but not cheat days, for me at least. And it'd best be a good meal! Gourmet.

Paisleymama
03-11-2014, 12:48 AM
I do cheat meals on Friday night and Saturday night but I can't dedicate a whole day to it. Calorie cycling works for most people so it doesn't surprise me that it worked for her. My "cheat meals" haven't hindered my progress at all, but I'm on 1200 cals and under for most weekdays so it balances things out

Sassyblonde
03-11-2014, 01:12 AM
I like the phrase treat meals as opposed to cheat. Cheat makes me feel like I am doing something wrong and I am not. Life is meant to be enjoyed ! With that said a whole day would be bad for me. I'd way overdo it and be very sorry . I have a good meal and enjoy it a lot, then I don't feel guilty and I haven't done that much damage.

canadjineh
03-11-2014, 01:39 AM
I like the phrase treat meals as opposed to cheat. Cheat makes me feel like I am doing something wrong and I am not. Life is meant to be enjoyed ! With that said a whole day would be bad for me. I'd way overdo it and be very sorry . I have a good meal and enjoy it a lot, then I don't feel guilty and I haven't done that much damage.

I lost my weight with Ideal Protein and maintenance is very specific on having a "Funday." That way you never feel you are going to have to deprive yourself for the rest of your life :cry:

The trick is in the planning - you must plan which day you are going to eat/drink whatever you feel like. If you want to make a date with friends for pizza & beer after a movie make it, BUT do not randomly do this whenever a friend asks you out on the spur of the moment or it will soon become every day is 'Funday." Then you will soon be back where you started.

Also, if, on the day you plan as Funday, you don't feel like eating all those 'naughty' things at each meal, DON'T. The trick is to eat what you feel like and if you feel like a salad at lunch with a broiled lean chicken breast, for goodness sake... DO IT! Have the Banana Creme pie for a snack at night, lol.

Just make sure it is not more often than once a week AND return to very careful habits the next day.

:p :hat:

Liana

Locke
03-11-2014, 11:16 AM
Locke, do you restrict yourself from certain foods or are you practicing portion control?

I guess you would call it portion control. I don't restrict the foods that I eat, I just only eat when I'm truly hungry and I eat what I'm hungry for... then stop when I'm not hungry anymore. It's called Intuitive Eating and we have a thread in the general diets forum. I've been on and off of it for the past few months and it has worked well for me.

SouthernMaven
03-11-2014, 11:28 AM
Well, there really is such a thing as Fat Tuesday, but it only comes once a year - and it was just last week.

It's better known as Mardi Gras. :joker:

All kidding aside, I agree with others who say it really depends on the individual. The only way you'll know for sure, kaybee1, is to try it out for yourself. It definitely requires a great deal of discipline, but I can see how it might be effective.

I'm completely off the diet bandwagon now, but when I did diet I was pretty flexible, as I was a calorie-counter. I could "save up" for certain events, and if you are at all familiar with Weight Watchers they also have flexible points so that you can have a splurge day whenever you want it. It doesn't have to be any particular day.

If you try this approach and find that going off-plan derails you and leads to more and more eating, then you'll discover that you can't handle it. It's certainly an individual thing.

amandie
03-11-2014, 11:34 AM
I'm with those on cheat meals rather than cheat days because I totally can do a lot of damage in a day. I agree with finding out what works for you whether if it's a cheat meal, or a Faturday (I love that, too cute, LOL.)

Good luck!

Slashnl
03-11-2014, 12:05 PM
I think it is a slippery slope. I don't know that you need it every week? And what if you want to have a higher calorie meal on Tuesday, maybe going out to eat or something? For me, I like to stay on plan all the time, but if I want a beer, I'll have a beer. But, I try to think ahead and plan for those calories. There are times that you go out to eat and go way over on calories. Well, that's ok! If you keep track, record all of the calories and move on. Go back to being on plan the next day!

It just reminds me of a quote I saw... Don't reward yourself with food. You aren't a dog!!

But, it worked for her! Who am I to judge?? :)

SouthernMaven
03-11-2014, 12:13 PM
It just reminds me of a quote I saw... Don't reward yourself with food. You aren't a dog!!



That's a great quote! Wise words.

abetterme
03-11-2014, 12:46 PM
I kind of do this. I don't try to eat everything I want. Usually it's more of a fat meal than a fat day. Last night we went out for pizza and that was my fat meal, but during the day I ate very healthy. I don't really plan these things but it has been awhile since I had a fat meal. I can see how this can work for some people since they know they can have what they want on that day and remained focused throughout the rest of the week.

Paulitens
03-11-2014, 01:08 PM
LOL. I love the name "Faturdays" Hahaha! In Argentina, where I am from, a "permitted" (that's what they would call the break) day is pretty much the norm in all diets so you don't burn yourself out. So usually on the weekends you allow yourself to eat a few things outside your diet and then the next day you go back to your diet menu.

I have not tried to do that and I wouldn't even go there. It would make me feel guilty even when I know that it's my Faturday. I mean, I feel guilty when I eat sugar and fat free candy just because it's candy, you know? Imagine how it would be if I allowed myself to just eat whatever for one day. Remorse would eat me inside and then the next day everything would be a lot harder.

I do give myself a "Faturday" with veggies I'm not supposed to eat like avocados and tomatoes once a week, and here I am, still losing. :P But I wouldn't do it with non-diet foods.

diamondgeog
03-11-2014, 01:20 PM
I am coming upon increasing numbers of articles that kind of explain why this works for some people.

They say it can keep up your metabolism and even increase your appetitie suppresing hormones. So ironically the theory goes that it would make it easier to not overeat for the rest of the week.

My body did not use to work this way but it kind of is now. There was a very special occassion recently and we went to Fonda San Miguel. If ever in Austin, some of the best Mexican food in the world.

In any event I went this past Sunday. It was my only meal of the day. It is a brunch on Sunday. I kept it grain free but I ate A LOT. I actually felt quite awful afterwards. I ran 30 minutes about 5 hours after and it was horrible. Yesterday was a pretty normal day eating wise, still felt bloated.

Today I am not hungry at all. I would NOT recommend how much I eat on Sunday. I don't think anyone is advocating this. But they are saying 'cheat days' (more food than normal, even more carb heavy than normal) actually have some science behind them.

Everyone needs to figure out if it is actually a benefit for them and how to do it best, beyond the theory. Also if it does lead to off-plan eating the other days, obviously it is not a net benefit.

But there is a theory behind it now actually being useful. Especially if people stick to their plan the rest of the week. BTW I was up 3.5 lbs Monday. Up 2 today. I suspect by tomorrow I will be about even with the start Sunday morning. My body can hold and gain a lot of water after a meal like that. But it sheds it in a few days also.

Munchy
03-11-2014, 01:41 PM
I usually have a meal that I wouldn't normally eat sometime during the weekend, but I also typically eat that as my one meal of the day. Saturdays tend to be tea and errands all day until suddenly at 3pm I realize I'm starving, the boyfriend will say "chicken wings" and suddenly I'm marinating wings to grill. :)

I don't worry too much about that kind of thing. I don't usually write down my meal plans or calories on the weekend, so I'm not overly strict. A big and unhealthy meal just makes me feel tired and bloated - I don't like that feeling at all!

Vex
03-11-2014, 01:49 PM
Some people can deviate from their plan quite a bit and still be successful. Some people cannot - either for physical or emotional reasons. Many people find that they were able to deviate more from their plan when first losing weight and can no longer do so as they get closer to goal.

If you can deviate from your plan consciously and still lose weight, then why not? It's important to be mindful about how much control you still have after those times as well as if you're still happy with your results. If you're not, you might need to cut back or eliminate any deviation at all.

amandie
03-11-2014, 02:31 PM
...Many people find that they were able to deviate more from their plan when first losing weight and can no longer do so as they get closer to goal...

*nods* This is me now. At 230-180lbs, I was able to drink and eat pretty much what I wanted over the weekends and not worry about it plus still have a good loss for the week. Now as I get smaller, it's getting harder and harder to get good losses (.5+ per week for me) so I've had to cut back a lot and be more mindful during the weekends.

Marniadec
03-11-2014, 03:23 PM
It is a bit risky. My mom had a nutricionist tell her to overeat once a week because it would help her avoid plateaus. I tried it when I first started and I usually ended up undoing half a week's work in a single day, even though I never ate much.

If you want to take a day off, it's best that you plan for it. You could choose one day a week where you'll eat at maintenance. And then subtract the extra calories from the other days. That's what I do.

ReillyJ
03-11-2014, 03:38 PM
I actually do this and have done this for a year and have been in maintenance for at least a year, i have a day (Friday) where i eat literally thousands of calories=usually high calorie foods w/out restriction.

~BUT~

I immediately go back on plan Saturday through Thursday and probably some of those days i eat below calories and i eat healthy and relatively low carb especially. I just do not deviate and somehow it works for me. I imagine it will not work for those who cannot stop at one day :)

EagleRiverDee
03-11-2014, 03:50 PM
I actually do this and have done this for a year and have been in maintenance for at least a year, i have a day (Friday) where i eat literally thousands of calories=usually high calorie foods w/out restriction.

~BUT~

I immediately go back on plan Saturday through Thursday and probably some of those days i eat below calories and i eat healthy and relatively low carb especially. I just do not deviate and somehow it works for me. I imagine it will not work for those who cannot stop at one day :)

Do you think someone actively trying to lose weight could do it, or is this more for people in maintenance mode?

kaybee1
03-12-2014, 12:00 AM
So i'm still new here and figuring out how to use these message boards properly but this is directed to Eagle: My friend used this technique WHILE she was losing, so for her it worked. But others on here have said they wouldn't go for a whole faturday and would rather do just a fat meal.

So i think it depends on each person's personality. I know that I do not have an addictive personality (affinity for food aside) and I can easily stop myself at a certain number of beers or just not have any at all, for example, so I think i could probably handle the Faturday technique and I'm going to try it out this weekend (already planning for a Mac & Cheese dinner and Chicago Mix popcorn for desert... lol)

There was someone earlier in the thread who questioned what you would do if you wanted to go out to dinner on a Tuesday, well you would just move Faturday to Fatuesday instead - essentially let yourself have 1 day off of plan and not stress about it, it just so happens that Saturdays are a pretty good day for relaxing and enjoying simple pleasures.