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03-01-2014, 09:08 AM
Mad - Way to go! I want to be under 180. Actually, I would accept under 190! LOL My time will come.

Trish - As I said a few posts back, normal eaters do not worry when they eat a little more, because they automatically eat a little less next time. That's our goal, isn't it? To be like normal eaters. I don't think you did too bad.

I was just as bad last night. I wanted a turkey burger from our local restaurant but DH didn't want to go, so I was picking at everything trying to satisfy my craving, and nothing was working. If I eat what I'm hungry for I'm satisfied with less.

Rennie - That's the problem I have with shakes. It doesn't seem like food to me, and even if I'm full, I feel as though I haven't eaten. It's probably the chew factor that Trish was talking about. I wish I could be satisfied with the shakes, because it seems to be really working for you. But I also prefer hot food, and that's why I don't do a lot of salads. We are all different. I am going to look for the Jennie-O turkey burgers. I can eat one of them when DH wants hamburgers for dinner. I do eat beef. I like roast and make it about every 2 months. I use beef in my chili and pasta sauce because that's what DH wants. But I don't like steak. I eat pork about once a month. But when I go out to eat I usually order fish or chicken.

03-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Thanks for starting us up, Carol Sue. Just looked at your profile picture and you are one very pretty woman!

I am going to try very hard this month to get back on track. Low carb works for me but I get very bored with it and need my pasta! (Visits to Italy have spoiled me!) This morning I weighed 194 - lost exactly one pound last month. :shrug:

I have to have a "serious" tooth removed when I get an appointment and know I will need to be in shape for that. I say serious because the periodontist used the word. It's being reabsorbed by my body which is weird. I won't miss the pain and won't miss the tooth because I'll be having an implant. I laughed when he said, the implant only lasts about 20 years. At 95, I probably won't care!

So fresh month and fresh start. I might even go for bloodwork soon!

03-01-2014, 11:10 AM
Carol Sue, I am like you when I want something I want it. I am learning that if I want something sweet I need to get something sweet. I love beef also. However I don't cook steak because it doesn't come out tender enough. I make a roast every now and then and the family loves it. I mainly like the veggies that I put in it and don't want to go back to binging on potatoes :) The shakes are easier on the go, not very satisfying for breakfast when I'm at home. But again for dinner on the go they work. I eat all meats. It's just whatever I have and I feel like preparing ;)

Ruth a pound is still good :) I loss 2.2lbs ... I could have done better had I been more focused. I think we can all eat pasta and rice as long as we actually measure/weigh it, unless you are like me and have little control. But the Shirataki spaghetti I found did satisfy me and it is low carb. Still haven't tried the mock rice from cauliflower ... I want someone else to make it and I taste if first :)

Trish, I think you asked me ... I do buy the Atkins shakes but I typically mix them with a scoop of protein powder to make them more filling. When I make a regular protein shake I add peaches and some times spinach.

I am down .6 to 165.6 ... this is .6 away from my low of 165 on 9/24/10. I am happy about that. fbs was 134 this morning, I think because I woke up to go to the bathroom and my son had fried some chicken breast nuggets and I ate 3 ... so good :)

03-02-2014, 12:03 AM
Quick flyby just to stay connected. Been a busy day. My beautician wanted to get together and go to a movie this afternoon when she got off work. Told DH that I'm always busy when she asks me to do something with her so we met at the theater. I wanted to see Media's Christmas movie when it came out in December, but we were so busy we didn't have time. So when she told me it was showing, I decided to go see it. I love Tyler Perry's Media movies. I think I have all of them except this one. I haven't laughed so much in a long time. I really needed it.

Ate a lot of carby stuff, for me, today although I didn't go over the carb percentage and I was within 1690 calories as well as the fat and protein percentages allowed. So I am very pleased with how my day went.

I need to get to bed because we are going to church tomorrow so I will read and comment on what y'all wrote tomorrow.

Have a blessed Sunday.

03-02-2014, 09:59 AM
Ruth, Thank you! Right back atcha! (I looked at your pretty picture, too). We clean up pretty good, don't we? LOL

A pound lost is a pound lost. Good for you. I never heard of a tooth being reabsorbed. Good luck with that. This is really strange, but I have a bottom tooth in the front that is a little lose. Not noticeable, but I can wiggle it with my finger. Recently, I noticed that it has tightened up to almost normal. I'm wondering if it's from all the leafy green veggies I've been eating lately. The tooth isn't bad, but I didn't want to lose it because being a front tooth I would have to get an implant...$$$$$. Not cheap! It would be really nice if it tightened up back to normal!

Rennie - You have done so well! I think I would love the cauliflower rice but DH isn't big on rice so we don't eat very much of it. I put a bit in stuffed peppers and stuffed cabbage, but not enough to worry about carbs. For me, I could eat rice every day, even if it was made from cauliflower. I am cooking a pot roast in the pressure cooker today. With that storm coming in, it's good roast weather. I will put some carrots in with it and make mashed potatoes for DH. Some other vegetable too, but I haven't decided yet. Wish I had some turnips and parsnips.

Sometimes, with a craving for sweets, that first bite is all you really need.

Trish, glad to hear you enjoyed the movie. Laughter IS the best medicine! They say that people who laugh live longer.

As long as you are AWARE of the carbs you are eating and keeping track of them, you will be fine. You are doing very well.

03-02-2014, 03:04 PM
Trish we don't go to the movies because there are so many of us so we wait until things come on Redbox. I like most of Tyler Perry's movies but some have the Madea overkill that drives me nuts. My family said I'm the person that doesn't know what's funny and what's not ;) Glad you enjoyed it :) glad you enjoyed your snacks also and stayed OP now how great is that :high:

Thanks Carol Sue :) I loss a tooth lower, bottom, front and it does look funny without it :). I can't get use to it for the life of me. It just came out late last year. I wanted to cry when I found out how much the dentures cost. :( but life goes on and I'll have to live with it until I'm blessed to make it better :D Glad yours tightened up :) I haven't had rice in two months and no mashed potatoes either. I have had a few fries here and there because the boys always fix them but only 5-8 and I am done. Your roast sounds so good :drool: You are so right about the craving for sweets and the first bite or two for sure. Sometimes things that you want that are sweet are just too sweet when you get them ... never thought I'd say that :)

I have hit my all time low and weighed in at 165 this morning ... I hope to keep this going. FBS was even down to 114 :)

03-02-2014, 04:50 PM
Happy Sunday, everyone! Sorry I've been MIA...my work schedule is long and crazy, and even though I sneak in for a break I never seem to have the time to stop and write. I know the very late nights and short amount of sleep aren't beneficial for blood sugar control or weight loss, but until I can change what I can't currently change, it is what it is. :-)

Rennie, how awesome that you've reached your all-time low AND have a great FBS to go with it. What you're doing is definitely working!

Mad, yay for you, too!! How exciting to see those elusive numbers finally stick!

Ruth, I'm in the "a pound is great!" camp, too. I know it's frustrating not to see more, but it's still a pound gone (and way better than a gain!).

Trish, you are so motivated with your plan and knowing what to do. I can feel the excitement in your posts of how well things are working, and the fact you tracked everything and were able to enjoy your outing without the guilt means everything!

Carol Sue, major congratulations due to you for reaching onederland!! To see that "1" in front of whatever numbers follow has to be such a HUGE boost! :-)

Gayle, glad to hear you're on methotrexate. As for the flares and switching meds, I would say as long as your flares aren't too severe or very frequent, it would be best to stay where you are and possibly increase the dosage before switching meds. You had asked about flares with me, and I haven't had more than a couple, and only because I've overdone something. However, I tend to have a lot of tendon troubles that I never had before RA, so I feel they must be linked. I get severe cramping and pain in my toes and feet, and I've had a couple of fingers pull so badly that they overlapped because of the cramping. Tends to be tied to usage also, and it eventually goes away in a half hour or so. Docs aren't convinced it's an RA issue, but I am. My personal belief is as long as something is working pretty well, it's best to stay there. Yes, there are other meds to try, but I want to reserve them for when I really need them...and the fear that they may not work as well or have other side effects I don't want to deal with.

As for me, a little on the frustrated side. I've been tracking daily and staying at (but mostly just below) 1200 calories a day and seem to be gaining a pound a day the past few days. I'm assuming it must be salt and retained water? I know I can't put real weight on that fast! Hoping to see some improvement in that soon. I saw my new low (by a couple of tenths LOL) on my birthday last week but the day after, I started climbing. I haven't worked this weekend, so no fluid retention in my feet and legs, which is why I was hoping to see better results on the scale. Oh well...if I can just keep going mentally (and food wise!), hopefully I'll be rewarded one day soon!

I know in last month's thread there was discussion about eating 3 meals versus eating smaller, more frequent meals and the effects on blood sugar, and I've been giving that some thought. For those of you who want to eat more frequently but are worried about blood sugar levels not being able to go down in between, I think it's less of an issue than you think. The way I see it, anyway, if you eat 3 larger meals, there is more of a blood sugar spike because of the volume of food. If you eat smaller, more frequent meals, your blood sugar will rise less with each and still fall in between to where you started. It seems to me, anyway, that blood sugars might be better or at least more stable over the course of the day because the spikes would be smaller. And one thing I remember from my dietician when pregnant, a 30-minute walk or other form of exercise after a meal will lower your blood sugar (I definitely saw proof with fingersticks!), so if you're worried about a meal, walk it away. :-)

Sorry for the novel, but wanted to do more than just say hi. LOL

Have a wonderful day, everyone!

03-02-2014, 05:34 PM
Darcy Happy belated Birthday!!! Hope you had a great one. I agree about the exercise after eating. I usually do some form of exercise after eating and always do my 3 mile stationary bicycle riding after my main meal on days that I ride. I read that in a book titled Reversing Diabetes. I'm contemplating the smaller meals throughout the day too. I'm convinced of late that overeating causes fbs to be higher.

Carol Sue So true about normal eaters. I always remember ry little Joel that I kept when I had child care in my home yrs ago. If he ate good for me, he wouldn't eat good for his Mama that night and if he didn't eat good for me that day, he ate great for his Mama. His Mama and I learned that Joel knew when he was hungry and when he wasn't and he would not eat unless he was hungry. When I got into IE, I also remembered a little baby girl that cried all the time. Her Mama and I thought she was hungry and would feed her. Finally I told her Mama, I think you need to take her to the doctor. We had her on a good feeding schedule, but because there was no apparent reason for her crying and feeding her would temporarily satisfy her, we fed her. The doctor said that we were over feeding her. So we had to feed her on a schedule so she could learn the difference in hunger and full. Strange isn't it. Now we have to learn that again as adults.

Ruth 1 lbs lost is a lb lost. Saw your's and Carol Sue's pics and you both are nice looking ladies. I've had to have to bridges put in place. I haven't had implants although my dentist would love to do them. I just don't have the $$$$$$$$$ to do it. However, I have found that when I do a really "good" low carb eating that my gums and teeth improve.

Mad So good to see things working for you again and always good to hear from you.

Rennie YAY!!! For hitting your all time low and weight at 165 this mornin and FBS of 114. You obviously have found what works for you. I've also gone over to the Atkin's food porn thread to find some new ways to eat low carb. My Daddy is drinking the ACV water too. He makes up an 8 oz glass of water with it and puts it in the fridge and just goes and gets a glass of it and sips on it while watching tv, on pc etc. So I decided to do the same thing. I think that is a way to get the fbs to come down as well as the weight. I decided to do that because I don't always want a salad that I can use it in. This also saves calories because oil in my salad adds about 120 calories per Tablespoon.

I'm hitting the protein today. I do eat some carbs, but not a lot. I've thought about going on Atkin's Inductions just for a few days mainly because I kind of overdid the starchy carb foods the past few days. No eating out for at least the next 4 days so may do it at least for those 4 days. Now that I have my routine figured out and I know what to do when I get off plan for a few days, AI makes it so easy to get back OP.

Have a super Sunday evening.

03-02-2014, 06:31 PM
Thanks Darcy :) and :celebrate: Happy Belated Birthday :celebrate: I am trying to stay between 1200-1300 calories while paying close attention to carbs, protein and sodium. On the days that I have the lower calories I can usually balance them out with a higher day. Are you eating too low too many days in a row? That could be it also, I think when I did that I started to gain also but as soon as I hit a high day I had a nice loss. Weird I know but it worked ... Just a thought :) This held true for me also ---> It seems to me, anyway, that blood sugars might be better or at least more stable over the course of the day because the spikes would be smaller. And one thing I remember from my dietician when pregnant, a 30-minute walk or other form of exercise after a meal will lower your blood sugar (I definitely saw proof with fingersticks!), so if you're worried about a meal, walk it away. :-)

Thanks Trish :) today hasn't been a good eating day for me. I had a snack attack of the brain after church, smh. Hoping I can get it into gear the rest of the day because I overdid it. Wish me luck because this is what I did before I'll go back and look but I think I had a one pound up the next day and then the day after also ... I can't do that again ... I want to at least see Darcy's ticker weight in the morning :crossed:

03-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Rennie Today hasn't been my best eating day either. It has been a high calorie day and very carby. However, I think I know why. I didn't listen to my body. Sunday is a day when I never know what to eat before going to church because I know we are going to eat breakfast when we come home. This morning I really wanted just 1 slice of cheese toast and a cup of coffee to hold me until we got back. Instead I had a serving of the turkey sausage with a slice of cheese. Came home and ate nothing but low carb until I had a starchy snack and I've been on a roll every since. From what I've learned from the past, if I had eaten the cheese toast I would have been fine. It's like once I decided to eat strict low carb that my body went into a crazy eating mode. I have caught it before it got too far out of hand although I did eat way over my daily carbs. Since I've eaten less calories than allowed most days this week, it is my hope that I haven't done too much damage.

I must start doing what I've learned from Intuitive Eating. I have got to start listening to what my body signals tell me it wants to eat and eat it. Intuitive Eating says to stop the dieting mindset of eating what I think I should eat instead of eating what I am hungry for. Got to stay tuned into it better.

I'm through eating tonight and tomorrow starts a new week with a new day. May end up with a gain as I haven't been watching sodium like I should. Just chalk it up for another week of learning. I don't want to ride this roller coaster of up and down any more. I am determined to work at the scales moving down without all this bouncing around.

03-02-2014, 10:54 PM
Trish and my problem is I try not to drink anything before church because I don't want to have to go to the bathroom. Then when I get home since I eat usually a yogurt before, I am hungry and think of everything in the world to eat that's usually off plan. And today for some reason I was sleepy so I took a nap after eating all of the mess I ate, smh. ... and yes ---> tomorrow starts a new week with a new day. thank goodness for the chance to get it right :) oh and my calories and protein were low and carbs high :( I will do better tomorrow (I hope) :)

03-03-2014, 10:14 AM
Rennie[/b] YAY!!! For hitting your all time low and weight at 165 this mornin and FBS of 114. You obviously have found what works for you. I've also gone over to the Atkin's food porn thread to find some new ways to eat low carb. My Daddy is drinking the ACV water too. He makes up an 8 oz glass of water with it and puts it in the fridge and just goes and gets a glass of it and sips on it while watching tv, on pc etc. So I decided to do the same thing. I think that is a way to get the fbs to come down as well as the weight. I decided to do that because I don't always want a salad that I can use it in. This also saves calories because oil in my salad adds about 120 calories per Tablespoon.

Where is this Trish? I googled it and couldn't find it anywhere!! ;)

03-03-2014, 10:34 AM
Everyone has their ups and downs. Nothing to really worry about. Just get back on plan and go on.

My roast turned out really good. I did go to the store and get the parsnips and turnips. I put them in the cooker too soon and they got too mushy, but I ate some anyway. They are higher carb than I should be eating but they do have fiber. I have developed a taste for them and usually chop them up for my vegetable soup. This is the first time I made them with a roast, so next time I will add them just for the last 5 minutes.

Today I'm going to cook some hot sausage. I saw sausage buns in the grocery store yesterday but I decided we didn't need to eat it on a bun. On a plate will be just fine. DH will get some french fries with his and I don't know what I will have. Maybe some sauteed pepper slices.

We usually eat out a lot so we can each order what we like, but I'm trying to cook more at home to save money. Even if we choose the cheapest restaurant in town we're well over $20 by the time we leave a tip.

OK Girls, let's see what we can do in March! Ready, Set, GO!!

03-03-2014, 02:08 PM
Where is this Trish? I googled it and couldn't find it anywhere!! ;)

It's on www.lowcarbfriends.com

03-03-2014, 02:33 PM
Well, I am up about a lb from the ticker, but the same on MFP so show no gain officially there. However, I did my monthly measures this morning and didn't look at all of them just the ones I put on MFP (never added them there till today) and I've lost about 3" officially on MFP and probably more if I had checked the others. So not really too bad considering how things went food wise the past few days.

I did my MFP food plan for today before I went to bed. I like to have a guide. I'm going to eat the carbs, but use the idea I read in one of the articles Carol Sue shared. I will use the 12 -20 grams idea eat no more than 20 grams at a meal and see how that works. I'm drinking the ACV water before meals. It's good for digestion any way.

I had oatmeal for breakfast. Used the fruit etc and ate about half a serving except with the yogurt which I only had 1/3 serving and may have to cut it back to 1/4 because I don't like soggy oatmeal. I'm using 1 tsp coconut oil in the oatmeal.

I've got boneless babyback ribs very lean that I found at Sam's and we will have that today. I will have greens and DH will have broccoli and I've got brown rice planned to go with it. I will have a salad with baked chicken tenderloins cut up in it for dinner with ACV and EVOO. I'll have celery with whipped PB for a snack tonight. Today is my 3 mile stationary bike ride which will help too. FBS was 150 this morning. So I'm pleased with that. I will never understand how we can rock along with good fbs for a few days and then all of a sudden have a swing up in the 180s like I did last week. I sure hope to get in the 140s this week. But it does seem to work in a way that I don't understand.:dizzy:

Carol Sue Your roast sounds so good. I've been wanting a pork roast, but haven't found a pretty one that is fairly lean. We lost our 2 Bi-Lo grocery stores here and I have to go to another town to shop at one. We used to go eat close to one on Sundays after church, but just can't do that now with economy like it is. We don't eat out as much as we used to either. DGS hasn't decided what he is doing for spring break yet and may have to feed him for a week. So kind of holding on to money as much as I can right now. Any way, Publix bought out our Bi-Lo stores and isn't supposed to be open until next year. They are a little more expensive, but if they do like they did in FL, they have healthier foods... especially "fresh" fish and good meats. I'll be glad when they open. I've never eaten parsnips. I knew they were higher carbs, but since I'm allowing more carbs in my way of eating, I just may try them.

Some how this posted before I was finished. I agree with Carol Sue we are shooting for a better March. I think we are all doing better because WE NO LONG GIVE UP. WE PICK UP OURSELVES AND GET BACK OP. NO MORE of those "I blew so I may as well eat". We are LEARNING TO DO THIS RIGHT!!! YAY!!!

I personally call that a HUGE accomplishment!!!! WE CAN AND WE WILL DO THIS!!!

03-03-2014, 03:02 PM
Ladies I am loving the positivity, :goodvibes: keep them flowing :) I am also wanting a nice piece of roast :drool:

I am happy to report a number I have not seen before 164.8 down .2 from yesterday. FBS was 124 this morning

03-03-2014, 04:19 PM
Ladies I am loving the positivity, :goodvibes: keep them flowing :) I am also wanting a nice piece of roast :drool:

I am happy to report a number I have not seen before 164.8 down .2 from yesterday. FBS was 124 this morning

:cheer: YAY!!! Great for you. You go girl!!! :)

03-03-2014, 04:20 PM
Thanks Trish :hug:

03-03-2014, 04:26 PM
As I said, I have a plan, although, my IE attitude allows me to change what I need to change. I ditched the idea of rice and added a cookie that I wanted. I am happy and satisfied. Drank the ACV water before breakfast and lunch, but I won't do it before dinner as I will use ACV in my salad.

I have 2 snacks planned so I can get enough fiber in my plan. Calories less than 140... carbs, protein and fat well within boundaries I've set for myself. According to MFP, if I keep eating like this I should be in the 2teens in 5 weeks. We will see. I'm just enjoying eating what I like within the boundaries and keeping my health in tact while losing weight. Even if it is slowly. :)

03-03-2014, 04:39 PM
As I said, I have a plan, although, my IE attitude allows me to change what I need to change. I ditched the idea of rice and added a cookie that I wanted. I am happy and satisfied. Drank the ACV water before breakfast and lunch, but I won't do it before dinner as I will use ACV in my salad.

I have 2 snacks planned so I can get enough fiber in my plan. Calories less than 140... carbs, protein and fat well within boundaries I've set for myself. According to MFP, if I keep eating like this I should be in the 2teens in 5 weeks. We will see. I'm just enjoying eating what I like within the boundaries and keeping my health in tact while losing weight. Even if it is slowly. :)

great attitude :)

03-03-2014, 06:04 PM
Rennie YAY!!! For hitting your all time low and weight at 165 this mornin and FBS of 114. You obviously have found what works for you. I've also gone over to the Atkin's food porn thread to find some new ways to eat low carb. My Daddy is drinking the ACV water too. He makes up an 8 oz glass of water with it and puts it in the fridge and just goes and gets a glass of it and sips on it while watching tv, on pc etc. So I decided to do the same thing. I think that is a way to get the fbs to come down as well as the weight. I decided to do that because I don't always want a salad that I can use it in. This also saves calories because oil in my salad adds about 120 calories per Tablespoon.

Trish, did you realize what I was asking you? Look what you typed!!!

03-03-2014, 06:13 PM
Carol Sue that is what the thread is called on the lowcarbfriends website :D They call it that because they post pictures of foods that look delicious just like the normal dish but it is way healthier :)

03-04-2014, 07:59 AM
Carol Sue that is what the thread is called on the lowcarbfriends website :D They call it that because they post pictures of foods that look delicious just like the normal dish but it is way healthier :)

OK, well I guess it's just me....I don't get why it's called PORN. LOL Sorry Trish. I did find the thread. Interesting!

I call a call last night that my half-sister passed away. She was 85 and in a nursing home the past year or two. She lived a long and happy life. May she rest in peace.

03-04-2014, 08:45 AM
Now they tell me! LOL


I don't know how I got into reading all these weird sites.

03-04-2014, 01:50 PM
Another fly-by post. Still truckin' - lost a pound and BGL OK. Still have not gone for bloodwork as I am dealing with this sore tooth and also a dog who may be in her last days.

(Disney is a Katrina Rescue and some of that horrible experience is showing in her health problems. It's not quite time for her to go to Rainbow Bridge (http://www.petloss.com/rainbowbridge.htm) but I suspect it will be soon. :( )

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Ruthxxx/before.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Ruthxxx/media/before.jpg.html)

03-04-2014, 02:26 PM
Carol Sue sorry to hear about you half-sisters passing. Glad she had a wonderful life. God Bless :hug:

... I love green peas :)

Ruth she is beautiful, hope she sticks around for awhile if she's not in any pain :hug: Good job on the weight loss and on the BGL, keep up the good work :)

03-04-2014, 02:27 PM
Carol Sue :hug: Sorry about your half-sister. Good to know she had a nice long life though.

Ruthie Congratulations on the lb gone and the fbg is okay. Sorry your dog is so ill.

Quick flyby here too. As my weight seems to do, I saw the 227 and then back up to 229.8. This morning down to 229.4. It seems that my weight bounces this way. Just working to keep it going down even if it is by tenths.

Y'all have a good day.

03-04-2014, 02:30 PM
Trish, I'm up 1.6 today to 166.4 ... can't win for losing sometimes ;)

03-04-2014, 07:34 PM
Trish, I'm up 1.6 today to 166.4 ... can't win for losing sometimes ;)

:hug:I know it feels that way sometimes doesn't it? I have to believe that if we keep doing what we know to do that it will work. We just have to give our bodies time to adjust. FBS was still in the 150s so I feel that alone is progress. I just can't give up and quit. I don't understand how the glucose works even though I've read and heard it especially when I eat OP and it goes up and I can eat off and it goes down. I'm wondering if the small meals would work better, but I'm trying to get away from "thinking" about food "all the time" and I think if I had to eat every few hours that all I would be doing would be thinking about food.

I am trying to eat less food at any one meal. Cutting back to 3 smaller meals and 1 snack. I'll see how that goes.

03-05-2014, 10:34 AM
Hi I'm checking in here. I was dx'd in May and I've been on a low carb high (good) fat diet since then. I've been keeping my numbers pretty much under a hundred. I just tested an hour after breakfast and I was at 79! I like to eat and I love to experiment with the food. Just discovered that radishes cook up like potatoes in pot roast, they completely lose the radishy taste. yummy!

I use a food plan called Trim Healthy Mama that separates the higher carb foods (oatmeal, most fruit, starchy veggies) from good fats (non starchy veggies with butter, higher fat meats) I can have both but only at separate meals.

03-05-2014, 12:10 PM
Hi Donna:welcome2: Glad to have you join us and look forward to getting to know you.

Saw my 228 even this morning so did good. I had a little more fiber yesterday but in smaller quantities. I even had pop corn last night. Air popped about half of what I used to and I use whipped butter now instead of regular and I melted 2 T of it and poured over the pop corn. I missed the salt a little and since I'm used to eating a little more but as I've learned from Intuitive Eating... if you wait a few minutes that desire for more will go away and I'm happy to say that it did pass pretty quickly and the feeling of satisfaction was felt. We are just in the habit in the country to want bigger servings so it is nice to know that we can break those bad habits. FBS was still in the 150s down a little from yesterday.

I found a thread on here of women who do fiber dieting and one of them suggested to someone else to look up diuretic foods which I did since I seem to be retaining fluid a lot lately. I already use some of the veggies but I was surprised to learn that oats is a diuretic food as well. I do like oats from time to time. Also found it interesting when I read the article that beside being recommended foods for edema it was also foods recommended for high blood pressure. My Daddy just got out of the hospital because he has been having problems with high blood pressure. He is perfectly healthy other than his bp and so is my sister. So I sent them a copy of the article.

Interesting thing about the fiber way of eating is that I have a book called "Reversing Diabetes" and I found it difficult to do because it kind of does away with the protein. One of the girls on it does high fiber/high protein and is losing nicely. I know from the article I read we diabetics need to not eat so much carbs at any one meal, but I might have to check into keeping up with the fiber as I thin that is a problem for me. I can always tell when I've eaten more fiber by whether I'm regular or not. I checked back over MFP totals and my fiber is way too low. So that is something that I need to work on. No roughage, no potty equals no weight loss and higher fbs readings.

Busy day. We haven't done out taxes yet. I'm bad about putting it off when I know we are going to have to pay in so I've got to get off my buttocks and get it ready for hubby to do. Also tonight is Bible study and we need to run by Walmart to pick up a few things before we go to church. Would go after but DH has a prescription to pick up.

Hope everyone has a good day.

03-06-2014, 11:55 AM
Trish, here is a nice list of high fiber foods. You may be able to incorporate these into your diet. You don't need to eat a lot. Every little bit adds up.


I buy Fiber Select Wheat Thins, and eat a few of them each day, but that has to be counted in with my carb allowance. The fiber count does get subtracted from the carbs for a net carb count. We also buy prunes and I eat one or 2 a day when I think of it. I just happen to love beans, so I don't have a problem getting all my fiber in. I does give me other problems, if you know what I mean, but I don't care. I love them!

There are some vegetables that are high in protein, but I will never stop eating fish and chicken. I just need to watch my portions.

I haven't done our taxes yet, and we are getting a nice refund! Every year I say I'm going to do it early, but I know that the sooner we get that check the sooner DH is going to want to spend it, so I've procrastinated again.

03-06-2014, 12:00 PM
I think I mentioned how my husband sabatages me, like with the rice pilaf that was left over. He also like to make ramen noodles and always makes 2 pkgs even though he isn't going to eat it all. One day this week he was making one of those envelopes of noodles and sauce. He was going to add extra noodles but I told him not to because I didn't want any. He added them anyway, then when it was done he said "You're going to have to eat some of this because I made too much." I left it sit there in the pan until he finally threw it out. Now, yesterday I made a big pot of vegetable soup and he said he wanted a loaf of italian bread to eat with it. He ate 2 slices, and guess who gets to eat the rest, or throw it out? Bread is my big weakness! Maybe I will give it to my step daughter when I give her a few jars of soup. I know he doesn't want me to be fat. I don't know what his problem is.

03-06-2014, 06:07 PM
I thought I posted this morning before we left. This one will be more of a flyby.

Carol Sue Thanks for the link. DH and I went to Aldi and I got some beans. One of the diabetic books that pushes fiber has a recipe for making refried beans and then a dip. It calls for pink beans, but I'm going to use the black beans and Aldi's equivalent of Rotel tomatoes to make the dip.

I love beans and DH will eat some beans and we will be adding them to our food plan. He finally decided today to bring his stationary bike in from the garage to start exercising on. His has the handlebars that move. I don't like that + we never could get the seat adjusted so that it would not hurt me. I have a recumbent bike our bedroom and I use weights to exercise my arms like I learned to do when doing Walk Away the Pounds. It really is nice to see him starting to take interest in his health. I feel like we are finally on the same page working on our health together.

I was able to get my fiber count between 37 to 40 grams yesterday and I was surprised to see that my FBS was 118 mg this morning. Definitely a plus for eating fiber. My weight was up .8 lb, but that is no surprise with eating the fiber.

Fatmad, Rennie, Ruthie and others :wave:

03-06-2014, 09:59 PM
Trish that is what I try to do also is 3 meals and a snack but most days (at least here lately) either I don't eat enough or I
eat too much, smh. I read something on one of the threads that said when we eat too much protein and not enough fat ( I think that's what it said) that it elevates the glucose levels. I think there is a lot to be learned about too much protein. I declare there is no balance it seems :dizzy: I think I read the fiber counting thread you are talking about. You have to be careful also with that because it can have the wrong effect on you also. Like I said can't win sometimes it seems especially with everyone being different. Trish good job on the fbs this morning :)

Hi Donna your numbers are great :) If you don't mind would you post a few of your meals so I can see if I can get those good numbers :) How's your fasting bs? Nice avatar :)

Carol Sue LOL on the other effects of the beans. :) It seems that every thing I eat in the last few months has been doing that to me :D Carol Sue I hope you threw the bread out :)

I was talking to my husband about my weight and asked him what he thought I'd look like at 130. He said I'd look sickly and he thinks 150 is as low as I need to go. 150 isn't a healthy weight though so we shall see. I stayed the same on the scale and fbs was 120. I ate really off point today. I did do a video off cable and broke a little sweat so maybe that will help some ;)

03-07-2014, 02:26 PM
Well I am up 1.4 to 166.8 ... fbs 130 ... I ate fries with ketchup and cake batter and a few chips yesterday so I expected it. I still haven't added all of it to MFP yet. Today I am trying the military 3 day diet. I saw it on MFP and figured why not. I've tried every other thing I've seen that I can afford. It has some weird combinations which a lot of people complained about but again that's what makes us all different. It's only 3 days and what didn't work for some may work for others. I had my first slice of bread in about 10 weeks and surprisingly I didn't want another slice. I ate a slice of toast 1/2 cup grapefruit and 2 tbsp of pb and a cup of tea and I am fine. Lunch is supposed to be 1/2 cup tuna, slice of toast, tea. Dinner 3 ozs of ham, 1 cup green beans1/2 banana, 1 apple, 1 cup vanilla ice cream.
I'll let you know how I do ... that's if I don't end up eating extras :) I should do fine in the a.m.

03-07-2014, 02:37 PM
As expected, weight up a lb and fbs up too in 150s because we ate at Pizza Hut yesterday. I'm never sure how many calories and not sure of fiber either. I have to guesstimate it. So I'm sure calories may have been higher and I did figure 4 grams for the fiber. It could have been 3 but most of the personal pan pizzas were 4 so I went with it.

Today's meals will be cooked at home and I'm working at keeping the fiber in the 30s this week and to stay within my calorie count. I'm never 100% sure the calories are correct for the meal that I eat away from home. Hopefully, my exercise calories earned take care of those times since I don't usually use them when eating at home.

I'm finding that the fiber is more satisfying and does give more variety.

Edited to add that I just remembered that I didn't drink all my servings of ACV water. That probably makes a difference in the fbs too.

BBL for indies.

03-07-2014, 03:22 PM
Trish when you eat out most of major restaurants have their nutrition facts online easy add on MFP

03-07-2014, 05:10 PM
Sad today but resisted the urge to snack. It was very hard taking my darling Disney on that last ride to the vet but she is now waiting for me at Rainbow Bridge with the rest of my doggies. Wee Jazz is forlorn but my friend Heather is bringing her dog over for a playtime - plus wine and zucchini lasagna for the humans. It's been a very hard week.

03-07-2014, 05:27 PM
Ruth, sorry to hear about Disney :hug: Good for you on not snacking :)

03-07-2014, 06:37 PM
Trish when you eat out most of major restaurants have their nutrition facts online easy add on MFP

This is true. However, when you build a Personal Pizza, you can't get the exact nutrition value. I had mine topped with pork sausage, red onion and mushrooms. They don't have a listing for that so I had to use the one for pork sausage and red onion which was all they have nutrition listing for.

03-07-2014, 06:41 PM
Sad today but resisted the urge to snack. It was very hard taking my darling Disney on that last ride to the vet but she is now waiting for me at Rainbow Bridge with the rest of my doggies. Wee Jazz is forlorn but my friend Heather is bringing her dog over for a playtime - plus wine and zucchini lasagna for the humans. It's been a very hard week.

So sorry Ruthie. I didn't realize it was that close for your little darling Disney. Praying for you and Wee Jazz as you adjust.

03-07-2014, 06:57 PM
I think I mentioned how my husband sabatages me, like with the rice pilaf that was left over. He also like to make ramen noodles and always makes 2 pkgs even though he isn't going to eat it all. One day this week he was making one of those envelopes of noodles and sauce. He was going to add extra noodles but I told him not to because I didn't want any. He added them anyway, then when it was done he said "You're going to have to eat some of this because I made too much." I left it sit there in the pan until he finally threw it out. Now, yesterday I made a big pot of vegetable soup and he said he wanted a loaf of italian bread to eat with it. He ate 2 slices, and guess who gets to eat the rest, or throw it out? Bread is my big weakness! Maybe I will give it to my step daughter when I give her a few jars of soup. I know he doesn't want me to be fat. I don't know what his problem is.

Carol Sue My second husband used to do that with me. I never really understood why. Whatever I couldn't have on a diet was the very thing that he would decide he wanted to bring home to eat. When I was in OA and was on their strictest low carb diet they had (back then you couldn't eat off in any way), we couldn't have pizza which didn't matter to me because I didn't like it then or perhaps I had convinced myself that I didn't. Anyway, he would go buy pizza and bring it home even though he didn't care for it that much either. I never could figure out why he would do this. There was a theory in our little OA group that husbands who did this may have wanted us to lose weight, but because of their insecurity, they were afraid if we got thin that we would leave them. Not sure if that is it or not. I'm not sure if they know or not.

03-07-2014, 09:34 PM
This is true. However, when you build a Personal Pizza, you can't get the exact nutrition value. I had mine topped with pork sausage, red onion and mushrooms. They don't have a listing for that so I had to use the one for pork sausage and red onion which was all they have nutrition listing for.

Sorry I thought that pizza hut was like Papa John's (I think that is where I had to look up the individual toppings). I remember doing it pizza before and there are only two that are near us that deliver. Mushrooms and onion are close to being free calorie/carb wise I would hope :) Sausage usually doesn't have any carbs but the fat and sodium are the issue. I think that was a great choice for topping the crust probably added the most of everything :)

Carol Sue My second husband used to do that with me. I never really understood why. Whatever I couldn't have on a diet was the very thing that he would decide he wanted to bring home to eat. When I was in OA and was on their strictest low carb diet they had (back then you couldn't eat off in any way), we couldn't have pizza which didn't matter to me because I didn't like it then or perhaps I had convinced myself that I didn't. Anyway, he would go buy pizza and bring it home even though he didn't care for it that much either. I never could figure out why he would do this. There was a theory in our little OA group that husbands who did this may have wanted us to lose weight, but because of their insecurity, they were afraid if we got thin that we would leave them. Not sure if that is it or not. I'm not sure if they know or not.

I don't know if I mentioned this here or not ... I had asked my husband what he thought I would look like at 130 something pounds ... he said sickly. I am not sure why he said that because he has seen me at that weight before but I have been heavy so long ... I think he is insecure when it comes to my weight loss. He was like that in 2010 when I loss 30lbs ... men are interesting

03-08-2014, 05:44 AM
Carol Sue My second husband used to do that with me. I never really understood why. Whatever I couldn't have on a diet was the very thing that he would decide he wanted to bring home to eat. When I was in OA and was on their strictest low carb diet they had (back then you couldn't eat off in any way), we couldn't have pizza which didn't matter to me because I didn't like it then or perhaps I had convinced myself that I didn't. Anyway, he would go buy pizza and bring it home even though he didn't care for it that much either. I never could figure out why he would do this. There was a theory in our little OA group that husbands who did this may have wanted us to lose weight, but because of their insecurity, they were afraid if we got thin that we would leave them. Not sure if that is it or not. I'm not sure if they know or not.

my boyf makes a point of eating all the food i cant have 2-i think he think its funny and it sounds cruel but he gets pleasure out of it wen i have given in b4 and eaten junk food-whether they support weight loss or not(my boyf says i shouldnt lose weight but i want to b where im happy 4me)and maybe he doesnt like it wen i reach my goal because it would make him jealousnin a way..?does that make sense or do u think thats overreacting?i get no support from him at all for my dieting but i hage turned that around and i am actually more determined!dont give up and believe in urself!:-)

03-08-2014, 11:17 AM
Ruthie, I'm so sorry that your little Disney has passed on. It is very hard to lose a pet. You have my condolences.

Welcome Little Miss Niki and Donna. We're always happy to see new faces around here. I think you have been here before, Donna. Stick around! We'd really like to have you input. You are doing so well.

Niki, you are in the weight range I was in in my younger days. I think always trying to lose those last few pounds helped me to maintain. You can tell your boyfriend that you're not hungry and don't mention dieting. He won't even realize it!

Rennie - That 3 day diet has been around for years with different names and in different forms. It's good for losing quickly when you're had a recent gain and I don't think it's harmful because it's not long term.

I am the same height as you and I would LOVE to weigh 130, but I don't think it's practical for me at my age and with my medical conditions. It would certainly help with my knee pain! I would be very happy at 150. Losing that much weight would give me a lot of loose skin and I can't afford to have the surgery to remove it. So right now my goal is to lose 20 lbs so I can fit into the clothes I have that are too tight. At that weight I would look relatively normal for an old lady and then I could work on getting a little lower. I would stop when I started to get too much loose skin.

When my husband was married to his first wife, he came home from work one day and she was gone. Left a goodbye note and ran home to mamma in CA, never to be seen again. In the beginning, he was always afraid I would leave. Now I tell him I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to stay here til the end and make his life miserable! LOL

We were having a "discussion" yesterday and he got mad and said "I don't want to talk about it." I said, "Ok, you shut up and I will do the talking." He kept turning the car radio up louder and I kept talking louder. We both burst out laughing, and the discussion was over.

Trish, I am wondering about your comment that the fiber caused your weight gain. I've never heard that. I always heard that fiber keeps your body from absorbing the carbs and sugar in your meal and whisks it out of your body. Please don't give up on fiber because of that. It's so healthy for you. I get mixed up on which foods are soluble fiber and which are insoluble. I will have to research that. We need both.

Mushrooms and onions are not only low carb and calorie, they have so many nutrients that are healthy. I try to have them every day.

I know the things my husband eats are not healthy for me, and he says he should not be deprived of what he wants because of me. I agree, and with the sweets and salty snacks I have good control because they don't appeal to me. But when it comes to starchy carbs, it's a different story altogether. I need to make up my mind to just say no to them. Carbs are going to be available in my life and I need to learn how to control myself. Yesterday, at the funeral luncheon, they had these luscious looking crescent rolls for sandwiches but I passed them up and just had some deli turkey with lettuce and tomato. Since my sister loved doughnuts, they had them for dessert, but I easily passed on them. Too sugary for me. It is MY JOB to control what I eat.

03-08-2014, 02:45 PM
Here I am with another link. This one explains soluble and insoluble fiber and gives examples of foods containing each one.


I have recently been eating lentils and they contain both. I bought some canned lentil soup, but since I am not much of a soup eater, I wasn't eating it often. Now I have been draining and rinsing the soup and using the lentils separately. Today, I put some in my cabbage/kale/onion concoction. I was thinking I could have a small cup of lentil soup before dinner each day, too. Right now I have a batch of vegetable soup in the refrigerator, and I think I will add some lentils to my bowl when I eat the soup. Can't add it to the whole batch because that would not please DH.

When we went to my sisters funeral DH could BARELY button the pants from his good suit, so I think he will be cutting back. LOL

03-08-2014, 03:12 PM
Hi Niki :wave:

Carol Sue, I don't know what is practical for me at this point. I just know I don't want to take metformin if I don't have to. I originally thought that 150 was it (love to be 150 :D) I decided on 132-136 because that is what I read and I actually think when I went to a weight loss Dr in 2012 he told me the same thing but it got to be too expensive and the supplement that I was paying for didn't help at all. I'm going to try to lose as much as I can also the only loose skin I have right now is my stomach, back/sides and thighs which I can high under clothing so not too bad :) Oh and I know the weight loss will help with my knees also :) LOL on making his life miserable (I think the two of you are a joy together just from your stories :)) Good job at the funeral luncheon :)

I am back down to my 3/1 weight 165.6 and fbs was 111. I didn't get to eat breakfast this morning the kids had to be in different places at the same time so I was on the run. I did eat grapefruit with juice, 5 unsalted rounds with 4ozs of taco meat, salsa and extra sharp cheddar. We are invited to a cook out so I will stick to grilled items and veggie (hopefully) :)

03-08-2014, 06:45 PM
Carol Sue Thanks for the link. As usual it is very helpful and I see that I was eating some fiber already, just not enough. I'm sure the weight gain was caused for 2 reasons. Number 1, I was adding whole grains and #2 I was going over on the calorie count. My diabetic book I have from Prevention explains how to add fiber slowly and it also says we should work up to 50 grams of fiber, but to keep calories between 1400 and 1600. I was going over. Also probably not drinking enough water. I'm having to learn to add the fiber and stay within the calorie count. Hopefully MFP will help me to tweak so I can eat healthy fiber carbs both grains and veggies.

Niki :welcome2: to our group. I think men are as complicated to us as we are to them. I think my second hubby was insecure like Carol Sue's was when they married. I was my second husbands 3rd wife. His second wife rain around on him and he died not knowing that his second son with her was his son and never was sure about his daughter. We raised the 3 children ourselves because she couldn't be bothered. So I've always felt that he had mixed feelings about me and my weight. He wanted me to lose weight because he was afraid of losing me to death, but I think he was afraid that if I lost weight I would leave him. He ended up being the one who died and left me because he could never give up smoking even when he knew he was sick and they were killing him.

My present DH was afraid of losing me when I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes because he lost his wife because she had complications from the disease. We were both shocked when he was diagnosed with it too. Now that I'm starting to see results of my way of eating and exercise, he suddenly has gotten interested in working at his as well. He used to fuss about the way I was always dieting trying to find something would help me lose the weight and get the fbs down. Now that he has the problem he understands my problem better and doesn't say much to me any more. The nice thing is that we are now working together to improve our health.

You might try what Carol Sue said and maybe it will work. I probably doesn't know what to say or do (men like to fix things and really get upset when they can't). So just saying you aren't hungry may do the trick for you.

Rennie I set my goal at 150 because DH things I will look good at that weight. He seems to think 130 or 135 will be to thin for me. I'm going to work at getting to 150 and then I will decide if I want to lose more.

My fbs was back down to 150 this morning and weight was up a little more, but I expect that to change with me being more attentive to keeping the calories in check. I seem to be having no problem getting fiber to 35 grams with the calorie count MFP has set for me, but it is going to be work to get it to 50 grams. But I'm supposed to do it slowly so I've got time to do it.

Have a nice weekend.

03-09-2014, 02:23 PM
Well it's good to see that we are aiming at 150 first and then seeing where we'll go from there ... I think getting to the lower 160's is more difficult than getting out of the 170's my goodness the back and forth is crazy. I am up 1.6 to 167.2. FBS was 124 this morning

03-09-2014, 04:00 PM
I am up to 234.4 this morning. Eating fiber is fine, but I think I must get most of mine from fruits and veggies. That's how I was getting mine before I tried this. I think I have learned that a small amount of grain may be fine such as the double fiber bread I eat and maybe the beans, but I am not going to try to eat much of any other. I was doing pretty good before and I will continue with what I was doing and just make sure that I get the 30 grams of fiber that my diabetic book suggests. FBS was up to 165 this morning, so I can see that I don't need and probably cannot handle more than that.

I woke up nauseated this morning and I've had a little bit of a headache. Didn't make it to church today. I got up and came into the living room and laid down and listened to the ministers I record each day. Couldn't watch them as I was so sick and had to cover up because I was freezing and had a difficult time getting warm. I slept some too. I think ate too much fiber and it was upsetting my stomach. I drank water but evidently not enough. I've been lethargic all day. I'll continue with the calorie counting and keep my carbs down some. You know ADA recommends 130 g carbs daily and I don't think I should go over 100. I prefer to stay under 80 grams.

I had 2 fruits this morning before DH got up and then I fixed breakfast for us. It was my usual breakfast except I made scrambled eggs because DH wanted them that way and I figured they would be easier on my tummy. With the apple and strawberries this morning, my fiber count is 21 g. Since DH and I only eat one main meal a day together, I've decided to just graze on more of lowcarb today. I'm sure with the veggies added such as greens etc, I'll reach the 30 grams easily without bothering or overloading my stomach. Hoping to get back down in the 220s sometime this week.

Y'all have a super Sunday.

03-09-2014, 04:11 PM
Well, my 2 lbs I lost last week found their way back home. I'm very discouraged. I don't want to beat myself up, but I know that I am the one who is putting the food in my mouth so I can't blame it on anything else. Right now my only goal is to maintain whatever I lose and not keep losing the same 2 lbs over and over.

I have decided to call my PCP tomorrow and get my A1c and thyroid checked. I have been putting it off, trying to see if I can lower my BS on my own, but it has been so high for so long and I am so afraid of the complications. I don't mind taking Metformin because it has so few side effects and it does help with weight loss, but I didn't want to go on anything that causes lows. I am so afraid of doing something wrong and getting a dangerous low. I will need to be diligent and right now I'm not too good at that.

Rennie, the fact that you still have dependent children tells me that I am quite a bit older than you. Loose skin gets worse as you get older. You might be able to lose more without as much loose skin as I would have. My blood sugar was good at 182 pounds. My A1c was mostly under 7. Last time it was 7.8 and I can tell from my recent readings that it is going to be even higher this time. I am really scared, but I guess I'm not scared enough to do what I know I need to do. So I will go on new meds, and continue trying to lower it with diet and exercise. That's all I can do.

My doctor always wants to put me on new expensive meds because he says they are better than the older generic meds. But my copay on brand meds is really high. I will tell him I will go on them if he can get samples for me, but otherwise I want generic.

I don't have any good news today.

Rennie and Trish, you two are really doing well. Congratulations!

03-09-2014, 05:00 PM
Trish sorry you weren't feeling well this morning. I have never been regular never in my life except during TOM ... not sure why it's better then. I had tried a maybe 3 years ago to increase my fiber because I heard it would help. I tried with extra fiber foods and a glass of metamucil and it did more harm than good for me. I like you figured what I was doing was good enough and went back to eating the way I was. Hope you feel better :hug:

This is how I feel ---> Right now my only goal is to maintain whatever I lose and not keep losing the same 2 lbs over and over.

Carol Sue I'll be 48 next month. I have five children, 10, almost 13, 15, 16 and a married 21 year old. :) I said once before I am the baby here :) My blood sugars were in the mid to high 200's for a long time. The only thing that helped was less carbs. I was a carb fanatic and I still am if given the chance to indulge without thinking which I do with ease at times ;) I need to have my A1c checked also. Thanks for saying I'm doing well, I appreciate it :)

03-09-2014, 06:35 PM
It's been a rough week. Had to put my dear Disney to sleep on Friday. Her bloodwork showed she had no kidney function left. She was a very brave little dog as we waited for the blood results. I was actually hoping she would die in her sleep but it was not to be. Even at the end she wagged her tail at the vet and vet tech.

Since then I've had a constant stream of visitors offering sympathy and horrible stuff like lemon bread and homemade Chelsea buns. ** Sigh ** I have been avoiding most of it but have still been off track with food and meds. Back into my groove tomorrow. I've had more company than when my husband died! My darling Jazz is feeling pretty lonely so folks have been bringing their dogs for a playtime. Today Rachel brought her Rottie - his head was bigger than wee Jazz and Jazz just ran circles around him.

My fridge is cleaned out and I have a turkey moving in there to thaw for a dinner party on Friday night. We figure with all the snow we may as well re-do Christmas. My crazy friends! I do have lots of good food left though and will be back on track tomorrow. I'll even weigh, test blood and report in. :crossed: I even had three slices of whole grain bread today and ham so the weight will probably be up tomorrow alas!

See you tomorrow.

03-09-2014, 08:40 PM
Feeling better this evening. I think I had a headache becaue I was too sick at my stomach to drink any coffee this morning. Headache went away when I took Excedrin and had a cup of coffee later. I seldom ever take Excedrin but suddenly remembered that DH keeps them on hand.

Strange how eating beans can add fiber to plan. I realized today that I can probably add fiber as long as it is fiber that does not come from processed foods. I am amazed that when today is over that I will have had about 44 grams of fiber and it was so easy doing it with beans, veggie and fruit and my calories are less than 1500 calories. I think keeping the calories under control is the key to a lot of this and if I'm right my goal will be to keep my calories under 1500 calories. My carbs are higher than I wanted so I will have to tweak that to get it lower as well.

Rennie I have Metimucile and DH takes Clearlax. I've taken both and neither one of them do anything for me. I do seem to do better if I am able to get the natural fiber from food regulated right. I just wish I could always remember what I do when that happens. I was extremely regular when I lived with my aunt when I got out of college and I've tried to remember what we ate. She insisted on breakfast which was eggs, bacon, toast with butter and black coffee with saccharin (they didn't know it was bad for you then). I ate a low carb high fat lunch (same everyday of hot link made locally, carrot and celery sticks and a cold drink. Dinner was usually meat, greens/veggie, a starch with gravy and cantaloupe. Every Friday night we went out to eat and had our favorite (mine was fried chicken). And I not only was extremely regular, but I was losing weight like crazy. Now I eat healthier than that and I struggle with weight loss and regularity. Go figure. Strange isn't it. I guess it is because our body changes a lot as we get older.

Sometimes I think I should just eat like I did back then and forget about dieting, but I guess the diabetes keeps me from doing that because I don't want the complications that comes with it.

Don't be afraid of taking the Metformin. My doctor says it is supposed to protect us from the complications of diabetes. I hope that it will protect me while I work at getting the fbs under control.

Ruthie It is nice that you have so many caring friends who want to comfort you and Jazz. I hope you good memories will help heal your heart.

Carol Sue Fighting the same lbs is a pain for me too. I don't want to keep gaining and losing the same lbs over and over. That's why I'm working so hard to get my weight down. I do so want to get my weight back into the 220s.

We can do this. We just can't give up.

03-09-2014, 08:46 PM
thanks every1 4 welcoming me and for the advice-im goin to try that-so simple just to say im not hungry-y didnt think of that!we had a bit of an agument about my eating last night actually-said he was goin to shove a pack of cookies down my throat and that my diet has to stop-so i just left him to it to not hear any of it-i told him,if i was allergic to all the food u eat would u still try force me to eat it?think he then got my point and he has now promised to leave me to it and not interfere-my blood sugars have improved a lot since losing weight so think that shut him up 2!so im just going to keep goin now-hoping for a good weigh in result in the morning-thanks again :-)

03-10-2014, 11:12 AM
thanks every1 4 welcoming me and for the advice-im goin to try that-so simple just to say im not hungry-y didnt think of that!we had a bit of an agument about my eating last night actually-said he was goin to shove a pack of cookies down my throat and that my diet has to stop-so i just left him to it to not hear any of it-i told him,if i was allergic to all the food u eat would u still try force me to eat it?think he then got my point and he has now promised to leave me to it and not interfere-my blood sugars have improved a lot since losing weight so think that shut him up 2!so im just going to keep goin now-hoping for a good weigh in result in the morning-thanks again :-)

Niki, that is a good comment. Many young people don't think about healthy eating, so if you just tell him you want to eat healthy and those cookies don't have any nutritional value, you might even change his eating habits, too. Good job! It is much better to keep your weight under control starting when you're young than to let it get out of hand and struggle with it when you're older. I learned that lesson too late.

03-10-2014, 11:47 AM
Good morning, girls. It is a new day. I will wipe the slate clean and start fresh.

I decided not to call the PCP. When he writes the order to check my A1c and thyroid he will also write for lipids and I don't want him to. My cardiologist takes care of my lipids and he will want bloodwork when I have my appointment on Mar 26. I don't want to get them checked twice because my insurance won't like that either. For some reason, I can't get these two doctors to communicate. My cardiologist says he sends the info to the PCP and the PCP says he didn't receive it. My PCP always wants to change the meds the cardiologist has me on and I want him to leave it alone. So I will get the order closer to my cardiologist appt and get all the bloodwork done at the same time. That way, both doctor's should get the info. This gives me 15 more days to get my act together.

I have not been exercising lately for one thing. Yesterday, I was having trouble bending over to put the potatoes in the bin and DH said "Get some exercise!!" And he's right. He didn't say it in a mean way. He hates to hear me complaining when he knows I'm not doing what I'm supposed to. He wants to turn the game room into something else, so I'd better use my equipment or he will get rid of it! LOL

I know exactly what I need to do, but can't get myself to follow through. I need to work on that.

Rennie - I remember back when you were having blood sugars in the 200's and I was too. Now yours have dropped so much lower and that's why I'm so inquisitive as to what you are doing. I won't sit here saying Poor Me. I can do anything you can do! When I was younger I wanted a car that only came in a stick shift. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to learn to drive it. One day, I went out for lunch with a woman from work and she was driving a stick shift. I told myself, if she can do it, I can do it. So I bought the car and learned how to drive it. I need to use that same determination here.

Trish - I bought Metamucil because I heard it lowers blood sugar and cholesterol. I tried it and I got constipated! That was when I had the visiting nurse coming and she told me it can effect people differently. I prefer to get my fiber from food after that. I guess fiber from food is supposed to do the same thing. Fiber has to be added gradually or you will get the stomach pains. You eat much more fruit than I do and fruit is good fiber. I think I ate too many lentils and I had some pains the past two days. I get so scared when I get that pain because it's in the same place I had the pain before I had the perforated bowel. I sure don't want to go through that again!!! Did you know that you can subtract the grams of fiber from the carbs to get net carbs? I would not lower the carbs unless your BS or weight is going up. They say that the fiber makes you feel full so you don't want more food, and if you lower the carbs and also lower the fiber, you may start to get cravings. Let your numbers be your guide.

I was not hungry for breakfast this morning and now it's time to start cooking my veggies for lunch. I will skip the beans at lunch and see if I still get the pains after I eat.

Ruthie - I hope you are feeling better. Your friends are nice because they care about you.

Bonnie - Where are you? Hope everything is well.

03-10-2014, 11:58 AM
Checking in. Weight is 193 and FBGL is 6.8 of 122.8 in American. That's not too bad considering I've not been taking my meds for over a week. Pill boxes are filled now and I'm on track. I had ham salad on celery sticks for breakfast.

Just checked the local obits and I have two funerals to go to this week! I will NOT go to the usual post-service "feasts" if I can manage to get out of it.

03-10-2014, 01:09 PM
Carol Sue Thanks for the advice on the fiber/carb thing. I guess I had forgotten that. Hope you can get things going for you. One thing I like about our Primary doc is that he keeps up with what is going on with us. I only have the 1 doc, but DH has had several and most of them are doctors who he has recommended to us and he stays on top of things. Remember when I told y'all about DH going to him in the beginning of his leg swelling from the clots? I heard that he got mad at DH's cardiologist because he should have caught it. He never would allow the cardiologist to take it over. He watches his PT like a hawk. It wasn't until he took over that the cardiologist got busy and sent DH to other specialists to be sure what was going on. We finally got to a blood doctor that now watches him closely as well. I think we get into too much trouble when doctors don't work together for us. When Tony had his neck surgery last our Primary would not agree to the surgery until everything was done to his satisfaction to be sure his meds were done exactly right because he is on coumidun. I appreciate him so much. I would love to move back to TX or to FL, but I am afraid of getting the wrong kind of doctor. Ours has spoiled us so.

Ruthie Glad you are back on track. I know how difficult it is when you are as busy as you are and then you add the grieving for your little precious Disney doesn't help either. Praying for you.:hug:

Rennie You are doing so good. Those last lbs you are working at to lose isn't easy to come off, but you are young and you will make it.

LittleMissNiki I can't add much more to what Carol Sue said except this. Too much sweets of any kind are almost like a poison or allergy for diabetics. I know I can eat a small portion of some things, but given a morsel over and I'm in trouble. Perhaps reminding him that this is a life and death situation for you just might be helpful. Usually a hubby or mate is afraid. They usually want to protect us and then they find themselves in a situation where they can't. Perhaps if he feels like he is protecting you by helping you, this will be easier for him. He just needs to know how.

Bonnie, Mad and others :wave:

Well, this morning the weight is coming back down to 231.2 and the fbs was 146. I am so close to being below the 230s and 140s again. I have figured out how to get this balanced. I have my plan for today of exercise and food plan. I will end with 1630 calories and 40 grams fiber. I think that is good. I do not have any plans to go higher on the fiber. I know the diabetic book says work up to 50, but at this time, I think 40 is good for a while. Especially as long as the weight and fbs comes down.

Y'all have a good day.

03-10-2014, 04:08 PM
Checking in. Weight is 193 and FBGL is 6.8 of 122.8 in American. That's not too bad considering I've not been taking my meds for over a week. Pill boxes are filled now and I'm on track. I had ham salad on celery sticks for breakfast.

Just checked the local obits and I have two funerals to go to this week! I will NOT go to the usual post-service "feasts" if I can manage to get out of it.

Sorry to hear of the funerals coming up. I went to a post-service luncheon this week and I ate some deli turkey without the bun, along with some lettuce and tomato. I also had a bit of cole slaw. I didn't want to miss the socialization but also didn't want to blow my diet. Of course, this was a family funeral. It is not usually necessary to attend when it's just a friend or acquaintance. The acquaintance will not be there.:(

03-10-2014, 04:31 PM
Trish, you are right. Your fiber is good for YOU. A book cannot decide what will work for every person, and we are all different.

So far I am doing well today. Right before I was going to start cooking my greens, DH wanted a late breakfast, so I ate scrambled eggs with mushrooms with him. Breakfast instead of lunch, not in addition to. He wants ravioli for dinner and I know that is high carb, but I am also making some veggies....seasoned broccoli and cauliflower....so I will be OK. I am paying attention and will not overeat. I entered my food including my anticipated dinner into FitDay and I am a little over 1000 calories. That's low for me, but if I get hungry after dinner I will cook some of my greens since I have calories to spare. I decided I HAVE to watch my calories closer because even if food it healthy, it still has calories and I believe you can eat too much even if the food is healthy.

Tomorrow I am going to start adding some fruit. It's not something I normally reach for, but it's not that I don't like it. I think I need it. I did not have any beans today and so far I don't have any belly pain. I hope that's all it was.

03-11-2014, 11:20 AM
I have set a non-weight-related goal for myself. I am going to clean off my dining room table and keep it that way until Easter. We have a habit of dropping everything on the table and then it gets cluttered. The paper, the mail, small things we buy, my Nook, etc. I'm so embarassed if someone stops in. So I am going to clear it off every day, and my goal is to keep it cleared off until Easter. Maybe by that time it will become a habit and I will never have it cluttered again.

03-12-2014, 11:43 PM
I finally figured out how to make this work for me. I'm starting with the low carb way of eating that I usually do and then adding the fiber to each meal and snack. Without any real hard work, it has become 50 grams of fiber. I'm finding it can be done with the lower calories. So I'm pleased with how it is going. I'm better satisfied and don't really get hungry. I just have to remember to drink plenty of water.

Carol Sue I liked your non-weight-goal for yourself and decided that I would do the same thing. There was so much tax stuff spread out on the table. I'm happy to say that as of tonight the only thing on the table that doesn't belong is the box with all receipts in it that will be go in storage then the table will be clear. And taxes have been done and will go be picked up by the postman tomorrow. So glad to have all that done.

Tomorrow I have to work at cleaning up the kitchen before DGS comes home this weekend. He is trying to save his license and get insurance on his car because his Mama let it go. He wanted us to put us on ours, but we would lose our discount if we put him on there because of his tickets and he is 20 yrs old. So DH told him he would have to work and get it himself. Spring break is next week so I figure he will be here all week. I've got to plan meals etc for him to be here. We will eat a little differently with him home to make the food go farther. Plus I want to get him some of the foods he will eat that we don't eat. Wish he would let us know what his plans are so I don't have to go spend money on food we won't use.

Hope everyone has had a good day.

03-13-2014, 08:06 AM
Trish, my tax stuff is still on the table. I hope to have it done by the weekend. I guess a lot of people use their table as a drop-off because my son and DIL do it too.

How long do you keep your receipts? Are they for tax purposes or just for your records. I usually keep a receipt until I know the item I bought is satisfactory and I intend to keep it. On larger purchases, we have a metal box in the basement where we keep receipts for warranty purposes. DH said we should have a box upstairs and put every receipt in it. Sometimes I buy food items and by the time I'm ready to use it a week later I realize it's bad, but the receipt is gone. One time I had shredded cheese and there was a pinhole in the bag and it went moldy in a few days. The receipt was gone by then.

You are doing very well with your fiber. Mine is not as high as yours. On the days I don't eat beans I don't get pains, but on the days I eat them I do. And I don't notice it when I eat chili with kidney beans, but only since I've been eating the lentils. I don't like to waste food, so once the cans of lentil soup are gone I think I will switch to a different type of bean. In the meantime, I'm limiting the amount of lentils I'm eating.

03-13-2014, 05:50 PM
Carol Sue we use to have that problem leaving things on the dining room table. I think it's just easy when your house is set up that way :) We don't have a dining room here and the kitchen table is a no-no :) Nice victory to plan :)

Trish, good luck with the meal planning :) My daughter got a wake up call when she and her husband had to get their own insurance. They also now know how it feels to have bills since they opted to get their own place when they moved back down here. Life isn't as easy as she thought. ;)

I am back to my low today 164.8. I hope I can keep it going

03-14-2014, 03:04 PM
Rennie - Good job on the 164.8.

I am thinking about changing things around. I want to try steel cut oats. I am trying to use up the oatmeal I have now. I made some oatmeal cookies for DH and this morning I had a small bowl of oatmeal instead of my eggs. It's instant oatmeal and I know it's not as healthy as the steel cut oats, but I don't want to waste it. I have always felt that oatmeal had too many carbs for my diabetes, but others have told me that it helps with their FBS. I really like oatmeal, but I also like eggs, which I think are better for my diabetes because of low carb. Today I had egg substitute for lunch with mushrooms, onions and tomato since I didn't have them for breakfast. When I was in the hospital, they gave me both for breakfast. My BS went down and I lost weight. So much food, so little time! LOL I have to figure out how I'm going to do this. Since I eat dinner with DH that has to be based on something we both like, unless we eat out, at which time we can both make our own choices. Maybe I can stay with the egg for breakfast and add oatmeal like they did in the hospital,or eat the oatmeal as a snack in the evening. I don't want to be adding more calories. And then I have to remember my steamed kale and other greens. I don't want to eliminate those, or the beans. Maybe I just need to vary my menu instead of eating the same thing every day and trying to fit everything in.

I am also going to make some homemade yogurt again. Someone on another board mixes it with chopped fruit and cinnamon and then tops it with some original Fiber One cereal. That would add fruit, fiber and cinnamon along with the nutrition from the yogurt. Maybe I could alternate it with the oatmeal in the morning, with my egg.

I guess I am posting this to try to convince myself that this will be a positive change. I like to eat foods that I like but are also healthy.

Does anyone else have any experience with oatmeal that they would like to share? Has it been helpful, or do you get a spike? I realize everyone is different.

03-14-2014, 07:23 PM
Thanks Carol Sue :) no comment on the oatmeal the texture of it drives me nuts ... can't eat it. The kids have tried everything to get me to like it. How do you make yogurt? That seems interesting.

I made the oopsie bread. It doesn't taste bad, it looks exactly like the pictures but it's a little airy in the middle, reminds me of meringue. I'd like for it to be a tad bit firmer. Don't know if I'll try it with a burger or not. Also I followed the recipe and my mixture made 11 pieces. I count two as a serving which is 7 calories higher than the person that made the recipe.

Down another .4 to 164.4 ... hope to keep it moving :crossed:

03-14-2014, 11:48 PM
I have T2 diabetes and prior to diagnosis ate oatmeal frequently thinking it was a GREAT idea... NOT! For me, once I started testing, I found it significantly spikes my BS every time. Definitely try it, but definitely test to see how you react.

I find if I eat eggs and a bit of ham, I can also have two slices of toast (I always go with rye) and I DON'T get the spike I often get if I eat that same bread for lunch or a snack. I am pretty sure that having the eggs/protein really helps offset the BS spike. I have not tried eggs with oatmeal... Wonder if that might help?

I am very carb-sensitive and just cannot eat a typical size serving w/o a spike, so I really have to space them out in small amounts.

I did drop 40 pounds over the last year and haven't tried the oatmeal since the loss so perhaps it wouldn't be as much of a spike, but even with the loss, carbs still spike me more than I would like. But at least I am lots healthier!!

03-15-2014, 12:47 AM
Laurie :welcome2: Glad to have you with us.

Oatmeal is one of those things I can eat 1/2 serving of. I learned that when I found Instant Steel cut oats. The serving is 1/4 c dry and I had no problem with that. So when I have regular oat meal, I make 1/4 c dry and I do fine. I would suggest testing after eating. I also learned that a lot of it depends too on what I add to it.

Still getting calories and fiber working for me. I think I cannot eat 50 g of fiber. I seem to do good eating up to 46 g of fiber so I can eat less than 1600 calories.

DGS is home for 4 days and then will be gone Thurs, Fri and part of Sat. We will have to get him to and from work tomorrow through Wednesday. I will have to get up around 6 or 6:30 am Tues and Wed. He has to work for as much as he can get to get his license and insurance again. He seems to think it will cost him $400.00 which he says his Mom is supposed to take care of when she gets her income tax return.

Busy next few days so will check in when I have time. Have a great weekend.

03-15-2014, 09:45 AM
Laurie - A big WELCOME to the Diabetes thread. It sounds like you have your diabetes under control, and have had a successful weight loss. Good for you! I hope you stick around.

When I was diagnosed and in the hospital, they were giving me a very generous breakfast. I ordered oatmeal every day and scrambled eggs, which were probably egg substitute. With that I could have 1 slice of toast and fruit, which was usually half a banana. And skim milk. I love milk, but don't usually drink it at home. It's very possible that the oatmeal was not causing a spike because I was eating it with the eggs and milk which both supply protein. The thing was, they were small portions....not what you would see on a restaurant breakfast. A very small portion of oatmeal, egg substitute equivalent to 1 egg. They gave me 2 small cartons of milk, maybe 4 oz each. I think the fact that I was getting all 4 food groups at breakfast kept my BS steady. I continued to follow that basic menu after I came home, but eventually that went by the wayside. I probably should have stuck with it.

I woke up from surgery and they were injecting insulin. I told them I was not diabetic and they said "Oh, yes you are!" I got insulin before each meal along with Metformin and Amaryl. By the time I left the hospital I no longer needed the insulin, so the diet definately brought my blood sugar down. Since that time my PCP took me off the Amaryl, but now I'm thinking I need it again because now I can't get a good reading to save my soul.

Trish - I didn't know they made instant steel cut oats. I basically only use a bit of artificial sweetener and some cinnamon in my oatmeal. When I'm ready to switch to steel cut I will look for the instant, and now I am definately going to go with the 1/4 cup of oatmeal and 1 egg with milk and some fruit. I don't buy a lot of fruit, but I have apples. And I buy those small cups of fruit for my grandson, and I like the pears, so that will also be an option. I think the pears are in juice rather than syrup. I also have some frozen fruit and a little carton of frozen blueberries in the freezer that I keep forgetting about.

Rennie - I heard about the home made yogurt on another board. I made it once in a little crockpot because I didn't have a yogurt maker. Now I bought a yogurt maker at Goodwill. New in the box, looks like they didn't use it much. I'm going to try again. The thing I like about homemade is that you can control the ingredients. Basically, you heat the milk, then let it cool to a specified temperature and add either some yogurt starter or some plain yogurt from the store. You turn off the crockpot, wrap a big towel around it to hold the heat, and I put it next to my heater vent in the dining room overnight. With the yogurt maker, you pour the mixture into the glass jars provided and leave it plugged in for 12 hours. Then refrigerate. It is not as thick as store bought yogurt. If you want it thicker you can use a cheese strainer to make what's called yogurt cheese.....the whey drips out of the strainer and the yogurt gets thicker.

If you or anyone else is interested, I have a couple recipes that I can post. I was nervous the first time I did it, but it was relatively easy. I talked to the dietician from the hospital about it and she assured me that is is not only safe, but preferrable to store bought yogurt. I think if you don't eat enough yogurt it's just easier to buy it. I see people at the store buying so much yogurt when it's on sale. they are the ones who need to make their own. I like it tart and plain, but you can add your own fruit, and one time I added some sugar free strawberry jam and just stirred it in. Another option is that Polenar All Fruit if it comes sugar free.

03-16-2014, 12:56 PM
You are a great group with so many ideas! Just diagnosed T2 on cusp. I spent the whole day yesterday reading Bernstein, looking at ADA (I would go to sleep after every meal if I ate that many carbs), and figuring out the carbs on all the food I like to eat. I have not starting testing but I feel better with lower carb, high fat/protein. Just not sure how low carb I need to go. Woke up with a headache this morning - probably too low carb too quickly yesterday. Very interested in all the different ways you are coping with this disease. Fiber, exercise, etc! Hope to learn a lot.

03-16-2014, 01:29 PM
Thank you for the compliment! I think we are a good group because we are real people, discussing diabetes from our own experiences, not just some dietician or doctor telling you what to do. We have found that everyone is different and needs to find what works for them. I am still struggling, but some others here are succeeding, and I'm learning a lot from them.

I think the one thing I would tell someone new to Type 2 diabetes is that the best thing for you is exercise. We have no way to lower a high reading the way Type 1's do, injecting insulin, so I believe our best choice is to go for a walk.

The second thing I would suggest is to test often, 2 hours after a meal, to see how different foods effect you. If you get a spike from something, cut back or cut it out altogether. In time you will learn what you can and can't eat. I know, but still have trouble staying away from the bad foods.

Here is a site that gives a lot of information that is dependable.


I hope we hear from you again!

03-16-2014, 01:32 PM
Trish and Rennie - I have been having trouble with the ACV water because of the taste of the vinegar. I was reading an article about ridding your body of toxins and one of their suggestions was drinking a lot of water, with ACV and lemon juice. I added some lemon juice today and it's going down much easier.

03-16-2014, 08:51 PM
Continuing to work out my ultra carb sensitivity at breakfast that we were discussing above... And really do find that I can have a bit more carbs (15-20ish) when I also have the protein with it. (Read somewhere the other day that many type 2s cannot go with many carbs in the morning... Though other opinions do differ!)

Today I made a waffle using Maple Grove Farms Sugar Free mix ... It's not marketed as low carb, but for the 1/4 cup of mix it is 8 carbs - 2fiber (net 6 carbs.) I added some ground flax and a little whey protein powder, egg white, baking soda and water. Made a great waffle... Had it with some Walden Farms blueberry syrup (0 carb/0sugar/0fat). Enjoyed it with an egg and couple ounces of ham. My FBS was 107 and an hour after Bfast it was 112; 2 hours at 118!!

03-16-2014, 10:01 PM
Wow you all have been busy. whew ...

Laurie :welcome: to the thread :) Good job on your weight loss so far :high: What are your meals like on a typical day? Those are great readings after your meals :high: You did great :)

Carol Sue, I buy the carbmaster yogurt from Kroger and I do buy about 20 at a time. That's only because we don't have a Kroger near so I check the dates and buy a bunch :) I am not a step cooker so I'd probably never make yogurt, I don't like to wait unless it's because it has to bake or cook no overnight stuff ;). But thank you for sharing :) ... Carol Sue great advice for Kris and me to hear again :) I love 3FC for the constant reminders sometimes it pays to hear (see) it again :) I have gotten use to the taste of the ACV water unless I don't measure and just pour but I'd like to give the lemons a shot though since I know they do have a nutritional benefit also :) Thanks for sharing :)

Hi Kris :welcome: to the thread. :) I have found that low carb works for me also. I don't have the discipline I need to eat carbs so they have to good tasteless carbs in order for me not to blow the day totally. My goal is to exercise 3-5 days a week and I was doing really well and then I stopped. Life gets in the way. I am not one to workout at home, I get bored or just give up so I go to the gym and hit the treadmill. Goal there is 3-4 miles but I have slacked off the last couple of times with that :(. Are you on MFP? I'd like to see what you low carb meal was if you don't mind. I need all of the ideas I can get and to have a truly low carb day takes a ton of effort for me most days. Best of luck to you on your journey. I'm sure the ladies here will have loads of great advice for you :)

I'm up .8 to 165.4 ... my weekend gain, yay me. Tomorrow will probably be a little up also

03-16-2014, 10:22 PM
I'm new at this and read about it pretty much all weekend. You have Bernstein who says 12 carbs at breakfast, 20 at lunch and 20 at dinner. You have ADA says 130 carbs a day. I guess I'll start with a moderate approach and see how that works.

My plan is 3 meals. Carbs not to exceed 30 each meal. Protein, fiber and fat at every meal. Not stuffed, pleasantly full. Drink water in between. Plan exercise twice a day. I need to learn not to eat all day. I think my pancreas needs a rest and shouldn't have to be processing food all the time.

Sound like a plan? What is MFP?

03-16-2014, 10:25 PM
Rennie - You and I are at same weight, same height and same goal. Will be fun to be in this with you.

Low carb day yesterday was: Peanut butter early; plain yogurt/spinach/flaxseed/berry smoothee and scrambled eggs at noon; hamburger patty with cheese, sauteed kale/onion/squash/mushroom/olive oil night.

Today was rice cake/cheese/v-8; egg salad on cabbage leaves and smoothee above; vegetable soup - broccoli/garlic/tomato/beans/onion/with small amount of carrot/corn/green bean/pea/lima.

I need to find something better than 1 rice cake at 7 carbs. I don't eat bread, need a low carb big crunchy cracker. Ideas? Maybe a crispbread type cracker?

03-16-2014, 10:43 PM
I'm new at this and read about it pretty much all weekend. You have Bernstein who says 12 carbs at breakfast, 20 at lunch and 20 at dinner. You have ADA says 130 carbs a day. I guess I'll start with a moderate approach and see how that works.

My plan is 3 meals. Carbs not to exceed 30 each meal. Protein, fiber and fat at every meal. Not stuffed, pleasantly full. Drink water in between. Plan exercise twice a day. I need to learn not to eat all day. I think my pancreas needs a rest and shouldn't have to be processing food all the time.

Sound like a plan? What is MFP?

I read something that said up to 30 per meal, but I read so many things I get confused. I do know that lower carbs work better for me weight wise. I need to work on my protein and fiber though. I drink all of my water and more most days. They say 6 small meals is the way to go. Have you been sent to a registered dietitian? I got to see one when I had gestational diabetes in 1996 but the insurance after that has yet to pay for one, so I look up my own info and use the information received from the ladies here, trial and error has been my way. MFP is myfitnesspal.com you record your meals, water, exercise on there. Just shows you all of your info at a glance. There's also fitday, fatsecret, loseit and I am sure others you could use also.

It will be good to have someone with the same stats to work with and I know from the past and doing this that you will do well. Everyone I have teamed up with in the past four years has left me in the dust and are now in maintenance. I'm just the one that slacks off. I weigh daily and count calories as well as every other nutrient, lol. We'll have fun :)

03-16-2014, 10:51 PM
I was eating the crispbread. I just really have a horrible relationship with crackers, bread, chips, potatoes ... so I stay clear for the most part.

I made oopsie bread which doesn't taste good alone but it works very well as a bread/shell/crust. I have made a sandwich, taco, and pizza so far, oh and had one with cream cheese. Today I also made the one minute muffin, not the tastiest thing. But I will figure something out. On another site recommendation I cut up one (flavored with cinnamon & vanilla), toasted it and put sweetened cream cheese on it, not too bad. I also like s/f jello with yellow cake. My daughter made s/f jello and I cut a small piece off of another one minute muffin (flavored with almond extract & vanilla) and put the jello on top, jello soaked in, not bad. Not yellow cake but not bad. Oh it's made with flaxseed mill, not almond flour.

03-17-2014, 12:50 PM
Today I found a really good reason for me to get a little box where I can keep all my receipts. A few days ago at the supermarket, I bought a can of hairspray. I didn't try to use it until this morning and it wouldn't spray. DH tried to work it but no dice. He said he thinks there is no pressure in the can. If you shake it you can tell it's full. This store has a strict policy about having the receipt for a return unless it is a mfg recall. I looked in my purse and the receipt was there. I usually throw them away when I accumulate too many and clean out my purse. Bad thing my DH does, he crumples up the receipt and throws it away on his way out of the store. Then I cannot return anything, even when he comes home with the wrong thing. He needs to be retrained! LOL

This morning I ate some oatmeal with my scrambled eggs, and I am feeling hungry already. That never happens when I just eat the eggs. Maybe oatmeal just isn't for me. Bummer. I really like it.

Bread is such a problem for me that even with high fiber low carb bread I overeat, so I'm better off not eating it at all.

Has anyone ever tried that Ezekiel bread? I've heard about it but never tried it. I would rather have no bread than waste calories eating something that doesn't taste good.

03-17-2014, 04:40 PM
Carol Sue I want to try the Ezekiel bread also. But I am really liking the versatility of the oopsie bread. I actually had a piece as a treat again today with s/f jello and whipped topping :) The ingredients use = 184 calories, 3g carbs and 9g protein. I am going to make some more today since I only have one piece left. I think maybe because the oatmeal is high in carbs it is leaving you wanting one more, just a guess because that is what extra carby stuff does to me. And on the receipts ... my husband hands all receipts to me. I have a thing with numbers and if something is wrong I catch it before we leave the store (usually at the register :D). He likes that because he never wants to go to the store with me ;)

I am up 2.4 in 3 days to 167, so not good. I have got to do better. I did get to the gym today and burned 447 calories in 67 minutes doing 3.61 miles on an incline at 3.5-3.7 mph :)

03-17-2014, 07:22 PM
Rennie - Usually I check my receipts before I leave the store if I can't watch at the register. I am overcharged on 1 out of 5 trips to the store, and I am well aware of which stores are the culprits. The best one was recently when I bought some kale and collards. I think the woman at the check out was leaning on the scale because the kale rang up 8 lbs and the collards rang up 7 lbs. Both bunches were less than 1 lb, actually. They told me the scale was broken, but I think she was just unintentionally leaning when she put the greens on the scale. I got a refund of $22. I'm going to watch that more closely now. Most of our grocery stores give you the item free if it scans wrong. Our WalMart and Target are very good and our KMart is terrible. They are also very bad at removing the signs after a sale is over, and in that case, they have to honor the price on the sign.

I thought eating the oatmeal with the eggs (protein) would keep it from having that effect. That's what the nutritionists tell you. They aren't always right.

I could have sworn I saw Ezekiel bread in one of our local supermarkets, but a search online only showed it in a few stores in Pgh. I don't want to go that far just to try it. I also looked up the oopsie bread. I might try making some, but I don't think it would ever substitute for bread for me. I'm just going to have to learn to do without somehow. LOL

I got back to exercising today. I did 15 min on the treadmill, 10 on the elliptical and 25 min with weights. I will try to do something every day, even if I don't feel like it. Your intensity is so much better than mine. I am afraid to increase intensity because of my heart issues. I keep telling myself if I am at least moving, I am doing better than if I were sitting in my recliner. I wear a heart rate monitor and go more by length of time than intensity. We all fluctuate back and forth, especially if we weigh in often.

03-17-2014, 08:20 PM
Hi Everyone,

First of all, I'm not sure I've welcomed our Newbies. We are glad you have decided to join us and look forward to getting to know you.

Sorry I haven't been checking in. DGS is here for during the college spring break and we have to take him to work, and church functions this weekend. So we are all busy until he goes back to school Monday.

My weight is back down below 230 yesterday and today, but my fbs was up to 173 this morning. I'm still counting calories and fiber, but I decided today that I need to keep my fiber between 25 and 35 g. I don't think I need to try to go higher. If I do go higher or lower some days, I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. I think the best thing I need to do is to keep the calories in place.

I love the Ezekiel bread and would love to buy it, but I can't afford it as it is very expensive here. Can't remember but I think the last time i checked it was around $6 a loaf. They even make an Ezekiel hamburger buns.

Carol Sue I was hoping the oats with the eggs would work because I thought about trying it too. Sorry it didn't work.

Rennie I wouldn't worry too much about small fluctuations of the scales as that can just be a temporary water gain or maybe you haven't potty yet or enough before you weigh. I keep a chart/graft of my weight daily and I've learned that my weight just does that and then all of a sudden I will go down and continue going down for a while.

Well, I'm tired and can't think right now so I need to go take a nap.

Catch y'all later. I will come back and check in more often. It is good for us to check in because I know it really helps me.

03-17-2014, 08:51 PM
Carol Sue, I thought that about the oopsie bread also but I think it is growing on me. The more I eat it the more I like it. Don't know that I will ever eat it like toast but I haven't tried that yet so who knows. I haven't googled the Ezekiel bread so don't know if the sell it near here either. I am trying to get back to where I was on the treadmill. I did 30 minutes at an incline of 3.0 and then I kept raising it until I got to 6.0. By then my thighs were bothering me so I said enough. I want to do the elliptical but the times I have tried it seems so hard. I feel like I don't accomplish anything so I get off because I spend more time in my mind complaining instead of trying :(. I mainly make sure I work up a sweat and like to go for at least an hour. Your workout is great, you're getting the burning calories and toning.

Trish I rarely go to the bathroom. I am the most irregular person that I know. When I do go I never feel like it is fully so idk.

today has been a pretty good day. I ate OP other than some cheese balls (with my baby), I went to the gym. I made two batches of oopsie bread. One to use as a snack with my jello, sweetened cream cheese and one to use for sandwiches and whatnots. I also made some cabbage but I put a tad too much red pepper in it and it is hot, whew. But I made it so I will eat it. I also cooked some spinach because my baby wanted creamed spinach, I didn't cream mine, it's plain. I got all of my water in and 4 cups of green tea.

Hope the scale goes back down in the next few days. I will be so happy

03-18-2014, 11:37 AM
Trish - I think I am going to try Fiber One Cereal instead of oatmeal. I can still have oatmeal once in a while since I like it. Fiber One has 60 calories and 14 gm of fiber per 1/2 cup. The first time I tried it I didn't like it, so I used it to make Fiber One Chocolate Haystacks and they were good. Then I tried it again as cereal and I grew to like it. I am trying it in the evening instead of with my morning eggs. The eggs with a bit of veggie mixed in holds my hunger pretty good so I'm going to stick with that.

I didn't eat any beans or lentils for several days and I didn't have any of the pains I was having. I went back to adding some lentils to everything that's appropriate such as soup, greens, vegetables, but in smaller quantities than I was eating before. Yesterday I had chili with kidney beans and I have not had any pain from either of these. So I think I was eating too much, too fast. The beans and my Fiber One should give me a good fiber count.

Rennie - I watched a woman make the Oopsie bread on Utube. She wasn't crazy about it and was making jokes about it, but I am going to try it and make my own decision. I will have to check over the recipe again to see if I can use egg substitute instead of eggs. (Note: I checked the recipe and I can't use them because you have to separate the eggs. Duh!) I don't know what I would use it for but I at least want to see what it tastes like. If I can't find a use for it I just won't make it anymore.

When I checked online for Ezekial Bread I put in my zip code and the stores that came up were stores like Whole Foods and Trader Joes to name 2 that were familiar to me. It's too far a drive to either of those just for the bread. I will check in the store I thought I saw it in and will buy it if they have it. I saw a recipe to make it home made and it sure had some weird ingredients! LOL

I think the reason you are not regular is because you are doing low-carb. Adding fiber usually means adding carbs, so you might not want to go that route. I am at the opposite end of the spectrum from you. I go at least 3 times a day, sometimes more. I always wonder how I could be so fat with my food coming out so much! LOL My husband has a couple nicknames for me that can't be shared publicly.

I am on my second treadmill. Someone broke the incline on my first one. No one owned up to it, but they had to know they did it. I used it for a while then decided I wanted a new one so I sold the old one at a yard sale, cheap! When I went to cardiac rehab the exercise physiologist told me that the elliptical gives you a much better all around workout. I like it for my knee because you don't get the pounding you get on the treadmill. They started me out at 3 minutes. It is much more strenuous, but you get your heart rate higher with less effort than the treadmill. After I got mine, I started out at 3 min and increased it every couple days by only a minute or two until I got up to 30 min. Since I do other things, 30 min is enough. Two things I like...you can use it without electricity as long as you don't want to track your distance, etc on the electronic panel. Also, it doesn't make noise, so I don't have to have the TV blaring while I'm using it like I do the treadmill. You might feel embarassed only using it for a few minutes at the gym, but you seem to be into exercising enough that you will quickly be able to increase your time gradually and get up to 30 min or more, and with more intensity. Some people use it as though they are running. I use it as though I'm walking.

I wish I had never stopped exercising like I used to. Hindsight is 20/20 and the best I can do now is get back into it.

03-18-2014, 11:39 AM
I got this article from Healthy Living Newsletter today and made a copy and thought I would share it with y'all.

Eat These 9 Foods to Lose Weight

When you think about losing weight, eating doesn't normally come to mind, but the right foods can actually help you shed pounds and reach your weight-loss goals. Here are nine foods to add to the menu that will keep you healthy, fill you up and help you slim down.

Studies have shown that people find mushroom-based entrées just as satisfying as those made with lean beef. Mushrooms are far lower in calories than beef, and certain varieties such as shiitake and maitake mushrooms have been shown to reduce inflammation.

Breakfast is a key meal when trying to shed pounds, and starting the day with protein-rich eggs will keep you feeling full longer, so you're less likely to give into temptations throughout the day.

Apples have less than 100 calories each, and they're full of fiber, which fills you up.

Starting a meal with soup prepares your body for digestion and curbs your appetite before you dig into more calorie-dense dishes.

Hot Chili Peppers
Studies have shown that people eat less when the dish they're eating is spicy.

Beans are high in fiber, meaning it takes longer to digest them. Translation: you'll feel full longer than when you eat low-fiber foods.

Green Tea
Green tea contains antioxidants that speed up your metabolism, plus its a great natural, calorie-free way to whet your palate when you're tired of plain water. Try brewing a hot mug of your favorite variety, or make a delicious Iced Mint Green Tea, which is a great alternative to sugary juices and sodas that the whole family will love sipping on.

Pears have even more fiber than apples. The next time you're throwing a grown-up gathering,

Cinnamon can help curb post-meal insulin spikes. Try sprinkling it on your morning oatmeal or make cinnamon toast.

03-18-2014, 11:57 AM
Trish, I agree with all those foods. I have always liked pears more than apples, but not for that reason. They are softer and juicier.

Hot Peppers would definately make me eat less of whatever they were in. They are too hot for me!

I want to use cinnamon, but I can't figure out how to use it. I've pretty much nixed the oatmeal and although I love cinnamon toast that pretty much defeats the purpose of eating cinnamon to lower BS. The only thing I can think of is sprinkling it on apples or applesauce. I do like warm cinnamon buns, right out of the oven!

03-19-2014, 12:04 AM
Carol Sue I have been irregular all of my life. Just started low carbing this year faithfully. I was gonna get on the elliptical today and decided I would just go with what I like and got on the treadmill. If we go to the gym tomorrow I may give it a shot though :) When I first made the oopsie bread I didn't like it but the more I eat it the more I like it. I ate eggs, cheese and ham this morning on it. Had one with s/f jam and spray ICBINB and then two with a cheeseburger this evening. Really good :)

Trish thanks for the list :) I eat everything on it except mushrooms :) Gonna try the cinnamon on my oopsie bread in the morning and some eggs. I'd like to know what kind of soup they are talking about.

03-19-2014, 10:56 AM
Rennie - I read quite a few recipes for the Oopsie bread yesterday. Do you use cream of tartar or baking powder. Most recipes called for the cream of tartar but a few said baking powder. This one woman said she added a bit of stevia to the egg yolks if she wanted a sweeter taste and parmesan, garlic and oregano for a savory taste. Another added dry mustard and dill. So I guess you can do a lot with them. I'm definately going to try them, but I don't have many eggs and no cream cheese right now.

Have you ever made cauliflower rice? I've been reading alot about that too. They say it does not taste like rice, but I like cauliflower so I think I could eat it in place of rice sometimes and enjoy it. One woman said she grates it and puts it in freezer bags in 2 cup portions, then brings it out when she wants it and finishes the preparation.

I was going to look online for a good low carb cookbook, maybe if someone on one of the low-carb forums has had good experience with one, but I think I have one in my cookbook collection so I will look there first. I might have what I need. I think I want tips to making foods lower carb rather than preparing complete low carb meals.

03-19-2014, 04:35 PM
Another quick flyby. I took DGS to work and I have to go back and get him here pretty soon. He is going to learn you can't depend on other people. I think he is popular because he has a car, but now that he can't drive his, no one wants to help him out like he does others when he is able to drive. I remember I had a car between Thanksgiving and Christmas when I was in college. I had more friends the few weeks I had a car. I wasn't crazy I knew they weren't real friends. They weren't friends before I had the car and quickly disappeared when I came back to school without it. He lets his school work go etc because he wants to be with his friends. The kid he thought would work Mon and today was a no show. It was optional as to whether they worked or not and his friend is spending the spring break studying. I hope he begins to see how things work and I will definitely be glad when he gets his insurance so he can get his license back do this running for himself. He goes back to live on campus Sunday night.

I am happy to say that the ticker is correct again and I hope I am passing through as I go downward. I could see 227 any time now. Haven't eat out this week has helped a lot. My fbs was back down to 157 this morning so that is good too. So keeping the fiber between 25 and 35 g with an occasional 40 g is working. Trying to get the sodium down. I finished off the low fat cheese and am eating the full fat now. Just have to look at the labels for sodium more these days.

I looked at the oops bread too. Thinking about trying it. I saw one that is made with psyllium so I'm thinking you might could put flaxseed in it for fiber and have more control over the sodium.

Carol Sue I thought of you yesterday when I read an article somewhere online. I think it was on MSN.com telling people "eat this instead" type thing. It said to eat eggs for breakfast because it will keep you full longer. I know my DS who is a trucker driver says that he has learned that when he eats a breakfast with eggs that he can go longer without having to stop to eat. I've gone back to eating my eggs again and I am into Jimmy Dean's less fat sausage patties. I only eat one patty a day and I add 1 some times 2 slices double fiber bread and SF/HF Polaner preserves for 8 to 13g of fibers.

Hope everyone has a nice day. I've got to get going so I can get ready to go get the kid. Just found out as I started this post that I have to go get him and I've got a kitchen to clean up before I leave.

03-19-2014, 08:57 PM
Another article from the Healthy Living Newsletter today that I thought y'all would like.

8 Foods That Help Lower Cholesterol

By Arthur Agatston, M.D., Special to Everyday Health

From beans and legumes to red wine and chocolate, food and drink can help you get your cholesterol levels down.

My patients often ask me if there are any foods that can help with reducing high levels of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol. This is the so-called "bad" cholesterol that can cause artery-clogging plaque to form in your coronary artery walls, increasing your risk of heart attack and stroke. My answer is a qualified "Yes," since high LDL can be the result of many factors, including poor genes, obesity, and lack of exercise. For this reason, not everyone will react to dietary changes the same way, and optimal LDL levels are different for every individual.

Frequently, too much LDL is the result of a diet rich in saturated fats (usually from animal foods such as beef, butter, lard, and whole-milk dairy products) and trans fats (found in processed and fast foods). Eliminating these foods from your diet is a good first step in improving your LDL. Then try adding some or all of the following LDL-lowering foods every day. If you're already on a statin, dietary changes may help you reduce your dosage, but never reduce or stop taking a statin drug (or any other heart drug) without first consulting your doctor.

Beans: Pintos and Garbanzos Stand Out

All types of beans and other legumes — pinto, red, white, navy, black, garbanzos, limas, and lentils, for example — are excellent sources of soluble fiber, which binds to cholesterol-laden bile salts in the small intestine and promotes their excretion along with waste. When this happens, the liver must use more cholesterol to produce more bile salts, therefore lowering the amount of cholesterol in the body available to make LDL. Studies indicate that consumption of as little as 1/2 cup of cooked beans per day can lower LDL cholesterol by an average of 8 percent. Pintos and garbanzo beans seem to have the best effect.

Apples: Fiber and Antioxidant Rich

As with beans, apples are an excellent source of LDL-lowering soluble fiber, primarily pectin. Research also shows that eating an apple a day (or better yet, two) can slow the oxidation of LDL cholesterol thanks to antioxidant polyphenols found primarily in the skin (so don't peel them). Antioxidants are important because when LDL cholesterol interacts with free radicals to become oxidized, it is more likely to promote inflammation and plaque build-up in the arteries.

Nuts and Seeds: Protein Plus

Walnuts, almonds, pistachios, pumpkin seeds, chia seeds, and flaxseeds are all excellent sources of protein, heart-healthy monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, vitamins, minerals, and fiber. When substituted for saturated fat in the diet, nuts and seeds have been shown to help lower LDL cholesterol (and total cholesterol) without affecting levels of good high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. Since nuts and seeds are calorie-dense, you'll need to limit your daily intake to about 1 ounce (1/4 cup) and also make sure the nuts aren't salted or coated with sugar.

Oats and Oat Bran: Just a Little Every Day

Oats and oat bran contain beta-glucan, a water-soluble fiber that has been found to help reduce the amount of LDL cholesterol circulating in the blood. Studies show that a daily intake of at least 3 grams of oat beta-glucan may reduce LDL cholesterol levels by 7 percent on average. That's the amount in 1/4 cup of uncooked oat bran (enjoy it as a hot cereal or add it to smoothies and baked goods) or 1½ cups of cooked steel-cut oatmeal. It is also believed that polyphenolic antioxidant compounds found in oat bran, called avenanthramides, can help prevent inflammation and plaque build-up by keeping blood cells from sticking to artery walls.

Green Tea: Loose Leaves Work Better

All varieties of antioxidant-rich tea (white, black, green, oolong) can help lower LDL, but green tea, which is particularly rich in the powerful antioxidant epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) has shown the best results in lowering LDL levels — by about 2 percent. Unlike other teas, which are made from fermented leaves, green tea leaves are steamed, which prevents the EGCG from being oxidized. While some studies have been done with an intake of 7 or more cups a day, drinking a few cups of green tea daily should help and will keep you from getting too much caffeine. Preparing your green tea with loose tea, rather than tea bags, provides more EGCG.

Red Grapefruit: A 20 Percent Difference

Eating just one red grapefruit daily for a month can help to lower LDL cholesterol by as much as 20 percent, one study showed, most likely due to the liminoids and lycopene found in the pulp. Grapefruit also contains the soluble fiber pectin, which contributes to LDL lowering. Because grapefruit can enhance the effect of certain heart medications, such as statins and calcium channel blockers, if you're on one of these drugs, check with your doctor before eating grapefruit or drinking the juice.

Red Wine: A Toast to Resveratrol

A plant-based chemical known as resveratrol, found in the red grapes used to make red wine, has been shown to lower blood levels of LDL cholesterol. It also appears to protect against coronary artery disease, thanks to its antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. Furthermore, a glass of red wine with a meal can help prevent the constriction of blood vessels that can follow a fatty meal and lead to atherosclerosis and heart attack. If you don't drink, don't start now: You can get resveratrol from red, black, and purple grapes outright, and from blueberries, cranberries, and even peanut butter. If you do drink, limit your consumption of red wine to one or two 5-ounce glasses a day.

Plant Sterols and Stanols: Watch Your Portions

Plant sterols and stanols, collectively known as "phytosterols," are substances that are naturally present in small quantities in vegetable oil (corn, soybean), nuts, legumes, whole grains, fruits and vegetables, and even dark chocolate. Studies show that consuming 2 grams of sterols/stanols daily can lower LDL cholesterol levels by an average of 6 percent and perhaps by as much as 14 percent in as little as four weeks. This blocks cholesterol absorption in the small intestine, which in turn helps lower LDL. Because it is difficult to get this amount directly from fresh foods, many products are being fortified with sterols and stanols. These include vegetable oil spreads (choose the light varieties), orange juice, and fat-free milk, among other products. Look at labels carefully, since the calories in many of these products can add up quickly and sidetrack the best of heart-healthy intentions.

03-20-2014, 03:12 PM
Since I am starting back on my exercising, I have switched back to my exercise avatar, but it's still me!

Trish, thank you for posting all the information. Yesterday I made tacos and put some black beans in mine, and did not get the pains. They are not my favorite bean, but go good with tacos. Beans can be added to a lot of foods.

I really miss my grapefuit and grapefruit juice because of taking statins. When I worked at the pharmacy I read on their website to "avoid drinking a lot of grapefruit juice, such as a quart or more per day." I mentioned that to one of the pharmacists and he still insisted that I should not be having ANY. I used to buy those little cups of grapefruit slices that are only a cup or less, but he yelled at me for it. I wish I knew I was OK having that. I love it because of the tart taste.

So many people tell me that my Smart Balance Heart Right Light is margarine and I should avoid it because of trans fats, but I cannot convince them that it does not have trans fats, but plant sterols that are good for heart health. I just keep doing what I know is ok. I did the research.

03-20-2014, 11:06 PM
Carol Sue I also love grapefruit especially the red/pink ones. However, I read on Webmd, I think it was, where they had people in So. Africa who ate a lot of grapefruit. Those who started taking Metformin began to have dizzy spells and they traced it to the grapefruit. I asked the pharmacist and my doctor who assured me that I could have it, but I am afraid to use it too much. I don't want the dizzy problems. Good for you for doing your exercises. I am having to make myself do mine this week since I have had to run DGS places. I did my 3 miles in 27 minutes Monday then skipped Tues and Wed because I just didn't have the energy. We ate out today so I knew I had to do it. I got carried away watching a program on tv and reading a book that I was shocked to learn that I had done 4 miles in 37 minutes. I have to do at least one more day this week and hopefully I will have the energy to do 2 more days.

My calories and fiber are starting to fall in place. Today's totals are 1673 calories and 44 g of fiber. I've been having a difficult time trying to eat less sodium. I am happy to say that my sodium was 1782 g way less than the 2300 daily allowance. Don't know if I can do that everyday, but at least I know it can be done. I think I forgot to tell y'all yesterday that the ticker below is finally correct and the bouncing that usually takes place after going lower, but this time it bounced in the tenths not lbs. I attribute that to my new way of eating. I can honestly say that for the most part this new way of eating is beginning to really work for me.

Rennie, Fatmad, Ruthie and others :wave:

03-21-2014, 10:23 AM
Trish, I agree that you are doing well. We have floundered here for a while, trying this and that, so I'm glad to see you have finally found what works. I know what works for me but have difficulty sticking to it.

I called the PCP for a script to get my bloodwork done for my A1c and thyroid. I know it isn't going to be pretty, but I have to get it done and face the consequences. I have a chart here that shows average BS to A1c, and I think my A1c is going to be around 9. I really hope not, but my sugars have been running really high. They never told me what my A1c was when I was diagnosed and I wish I knew. It has been running around 6-7 since then but recently my BS has spiked and won't come down.

My husband's blood pressure has been up lately and he's blaming it on my cooking. LOL Isn't that how it goes? His weight is up a little and if he loses that, his BP will come down, but he doesn't want to hear that, of course. Since I don't like a salty taste, I do not salt when I cook. I leave it up to each individual to add salt if they desire. My family knows that and is used to it. But he has a tendency to reach for the salt shaker before he takes the first bite. Also, he eats a lot of processed foods which are full of sodium. This is his issue. I have my own to worry about. I care, but it's his responsibility.

03-21-2014, 03:06 PM
Carol Sue I do try to help DH with some things he eats especially what I cook, but I told him when he was diagnosed with diabetes that I would help him make changes but I would not police what he ate. I told him people have always done that to me and I don't like it so it would be up to him to decide what he wanted/didn't want to eat. My previous (now deceased) hubby's doctor told us he could trade things off as he had CHF. I kind of let Tony do that. I do give him advice, but he knows that the final decision is his. They are strange creatures aren't they.

I am so excited about how things seem to be working for me. I've decided that keeping all my numbers within allowed on MFP. I actually have my plan for today and the calories are 1224 and fiber is 35 g and sodium under the 2300. I have to share with you what happened last night to help me decide how to make this work.

I saw an interesting thing on FB about Glenn Beck and what test results revealed about his health. DH looked it up on his website and we read and listened to what happened to him day before yesterday. I feel free about sharing this since it is on his website. He has had a lot of tests run over the years and doctors told him to change his diet. However, this news was a little different for him.

He went some place there in TX and had tests done and the doctor's actually told him that he is "being poisoned". It turns out the foods he eats are becoming poison in his system. He read off ALL the foods he CANNOT eat. He thought they were going to tell him to go Paleo, but many of the foods allowed on Paleo he can't eat such as tomatoes, bananas, etc. I can't remember all the foods he can eat except that he has to eat range fed beef, etc and his fruits are limited and his veggies are more like greens. No grains, beans, dairy etc. Nothing processed. He put a word out for a chef who can cook for him and even travel with him. DH said to me "He can't even go eat in a restaurant any more. He can't eat hardly anything".

I did notice that he has Neuropathy. I think I've had a touch of this for years, but never find any doctor who takes it seriously I guess because I can still feel things when they test me. His situation helped me to see why it may be necessary to eat less processed food. I do still want to eat some of the double fiber bread, but most of my fiber from now own will come from fruits and veggies. I can't hire a chef to cook for me and hopefully at this time I'm not as bad as Glenn is. But it really shows me why it is important to eat more of a unprocessed low carb diet. I really think eating this way will even lower my sodium intake. So I will be working at eating this way.

Just thought his story was interesting enough to share. I think I heard in years past that he was also diabetic although he didn't mention it this time. I saw some important lessons to learn here.

Have a nice Friday.

03-22-2014, 09:33 AM
I will look into the information about Glenn Beck. My son listens to him on the radio all the time and swears by everything he says.

I got my script from the DR. I was going to go for bloodwork this morning but we have to go to get my GS at 9 AM and that would be too much running around. Monday will be soon enough.

03-22-2014, 09:52 AM
Good morning. Thought I'd better check in before I get kicked out!

I've not been on the scale since I had my tooth appointment. It did not go well as the offending tooth cracked as they were trying to remove it. however, my perio persevered and got it out. Then he did a bone graft, covered it with my gum and a membrane and that was "it". It has to heal completely before he does the implant and that'll be 4 months!

In the meantime, I am not to chew on that side until the stitches come out on April 2 :crossed: and am on anti-biotics and pain killers. I don't feel that badly but am finding food a problem. There have been lots of soups and overcooked pasta but I did re-discover tapioca and made a pudding using Splenda. That was one of my childhood favourites and a comfort food!

A challenge tonight as I am going out to dinner at my friend Liz's house. They are serving BBQ salmon which will be challenge but I am hoping they will be serving buffet-style so I can take just a small amount and remember to chew with just one side of my mouth.

Sure has been a rough month. Aside from losing my darling dog, I have dealt with three funerals and will probably have another one before the end of the month. I definitely need real spring!

03-23-2014, 10:15 AM
Ruth, I'm sorry to hear of all the difficulties you've been having. It's good that you're getting that tooth taken care of. It's very hard to remember to chew only on one side. I would do my best to eat that salmon! It's one of my favorites!

To All: I was reading the March issue of Prevention magazine and they had an article called "7 New Food Rules." They're not all new, but I did learn some things from it. This is my paraphrased version.

1. Cook real food. We already know that's best...cooking from scratch instead of using processed foods.

2. Buy the best food in the store. From that I learned that tiny tomatoes like cherry or grape have more lycopene, which lowers cholesterol.

Fruits should not be ignored in favor of veggies. They should be equal because fruit has more antioxidants than veggies. This excludes bananas, my favorite.

Whole carrots have more nutrition than baby carrots, and should be scrubbed, not peeled. (I usually buy baby carrots but will try mature carrots.)

Cook bold onions and eat sweet ones raw. (I only buy regular yellow onions for everything.)

Buy bunches of spinach and whole heads of lettuce. The bagged ones have less nutrition.

Eat artichokes. They have more antioxidants than any other veggies, including eggplant and red peppers. (I buy frozen and cook them with my roasted vegetables.)

3. Eat your bacteria. That sounds gross, but they are talking abut salt brined pickles, sauerkraut, kimchi and yogurt.

4. Cut down on meat. Giving up meat and cheese one day a week can reduce your sat fat by 15%.

5. Ditch dieting. If you cultivate habits than become automatic, such as having a protein packed balanced breakfast, eating something green at both lunch and dinner, if you have good habits at home you can socialize and eat freely-without counting calories and without forbidden foods. So eating what you like at a get-together with friends or family is not a no-no. (I would like to add that just make sure what you eat is not a trigger food for you.)

6. Eat your way well. Use foods than are known to heal. Many foods work to keep a good immune system, such as omega 3, celery, tumeric and cumin, parsley, EVOO, and chick peas added to your dish provides lots of fiber that keep you from having blood sugar spikes. They also mentioned smoked black cod, sprouted rye bread, cabbage, cauliflower, miso, and mushrooms as being very important to your health. ( I have cauliflower, mushrooms, and cabbage, but have never tried the others.) Ginger and fennel, walnuts, dark chocolate, kale, whole wheat pasta, chili peppers were also mentioned. Lots of good, healthy food.

7. This rule named 10 people, chefs, nutritionists and other professionals who each had tips and pointers on how to eat healthier.

I used to prescribe to Prevention, but quit because the current issue would be on the news stands long before my issue came in the mail. I have bought a few back issues at Goodwill, but recently decided to prescribe again and give them another chance. There are many good, informative articles in it.

03-23-2014, 11:12 AM
Here I am again with another link fromWebMD. I love WebMD. They have such good information. I signed up for email from them, and have learned so much!

I eat most of these foods, so why am I still fat? Because of the foods I eat with them, that's why.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/ss/slideshow-fat-fighting-foods?ecd=wnl_dia_031614&ctr=wnl-dia-031614_ld-stry&mb=HpSunk8ip3Uc5kSGWbvGfeHnVev1imbC%40yNm4PCC9sE%3 d

03-23-2014, 11:44 PM
Ok you ALL have been busy and it's late. I will catch up later

Fbs finally back down to 115, it had been in the 130's and I think 145 one day.

Weight is crazy up to 167.2 today but I will make these last days of March 2014 count ;)

Have a great night

03-24-2014, 03:02 PM
I wrote a post yesterday and messed up on it some how. I hit some key IDK what I did, but stopped and never got back to it.

Ruthie Always good to see you when you check in. Miss you and Fatmad when y'all don't check in as this thread was headed up by the 2 of you for so long. Y'all are extremely busy ladies which i also good, so hope you two will always pop in when you can. You are very much missed.

Carol Sue Thanks for the info and website. I get a newsletter from them from time to time, but not much on dieting. DH has looked things up on it and everything seems to be info on joints/arthritis that we get. It mentioned some foods like Greek yogurt that I don't like, but some on the fiber thread add their Polaner preserves to theirs for fiber and I thought of trying it some time. I do love grapefruit and found info on that interesting. I have another website I've been checking out and thought of ordering their magazine called NutritionAction.com. They do have a lot of good information on healthy eating. They claim not to get any funds from federal government etc for their research. I found it quite interesting some of the foods they warn us about, but they also give alternatives to use instead. Example, I've noticed that some foods that advertise even on the boxes that they have more fiber etc, but when you read the label many times they have less than 1 fiber per serving. Nutrition Action will tell you which food does this and then tell you of a food that is a good alternative with less calories, fat (the kind of fat), amounts of protein and how much more fiber. Very helpful. You might want to check it out.

I used to take Prevention. In fact, at one time, they had a diet called the No Willpower Weight Loss Diet. I've never seen it again. I tried it and it really worked. You didn't have to count calories or anything. You started your meal with soup. They said the fat in the soup was good for you and the soup helped fill you and prepare you for other food. You followed that with your main course (protein) and then ate veggies and here's the weird part was that you ate a salad after the meal and finished your whole meal with a slice of whole wheat bread. As I write this, I now see all the fiber I was eating in one meal and the weight was just melting off. I quit taking Prevention magazine because I was into "Health Food Store" guidance/ideas at the time and they stopped trusting Prevention when a bunch of doctors bought it out. They didn't trust the doctors to follow Preventions original protocol. However, the book I told y'all about that tells us to eat fiber to control diabetes is from Prevention magazine. They do know there stuff.

Rennie Don't give up and be patient with yourself. You don't have a whole lot to lose and sometimes those are the most stubborn. It will come down, your body is just adjusting itself and if you have yo-yo dieted like I have, I think your body has to know that although you are still dieting that now you are NOT going to starve it. It has to realize that it really is going to get fed. Our bodies or so difficult to understand sometime. Congratulations on the fbs being 115. I would say that is a good sign that you are doing something right.

Well, I changed my ticker. I've now lost a total of 12 lbs this year with a new low of 226.8. I still use MFP because it seems to have a better list of foods on it. However, I did go over to Livestrong when reading an article from there and put in my info and it showed that if I would eat between 1400 to 1500 calories a day that I could (?) lose up to 2 lbs a week. I didn't change the 1670 calories allowed on MFP, but I'm going to shoot for 2 lbs a week. I was going to switch to stricter low carb, but as Hubby #2 would say, "if it works, don't fix it". I can always go less in the future is I need to, but right now I'm keeping my fiber between 25 and 40 and calories within the 1670 calories. FBS has been in 140's this past week. My activity has been good. My goal has been 27 minutes (3 miles) 3 times a week on stationary bike plus about 35 minutes of other activities. I did 2 days at 27 min (3 miles) and 2 days of 37 min 4 miles on the bike. Saturday, I not only did the 4 miles on the bike but walked about an hour shopping as well as my 35 minutes of other things. So overall, I was pleased with my week as well as rewarded for my efforts. Rennie I haven't been able to get down this low in weight in well over a year. I spent most of that time bouncing between 231 and 238. I think my body finally knows it can trust me to feed it when it signals me that it is hungry.

Carol Sue I am back to trying to learn to ONLY eat and give my body fuel when it signals it is hungry (IE) and eat what it wants and stop when satisfied. One of the rules from the article you shared sounded a lot like IE.

Have a great day everybody.

03-24-2014, 03:35 PM
I got my lab work done this morning, so now I will wait for the call from the doctor. I hope he will agree to let me take Amaryl again instead of trying something new. The hospital put me on it in the beginning but he took me off it when my bs was running good with Metformin. I would rather try a generic med like that before I go to something more expensive. I will have to check my bs more often for lows, but I think if I can get the bs to come down, then I can work on keeping it down and getting back off the meds.

Rennie- I think you said you were once on insulin but not now. I thought once you were on insulin you had to be on it for life. I don't trust myself to be on it. I would be afraid to go to sleep for fear I would have a low and not wake up. My son's FIL had a bad low in the middle of the night. Luckily, his wife woke up and realized what was happening and called the ambulance. That scares me so much, but apparently not enough to get me to do what I'm supposed to do.

I hate Diabetes.

03-24-2014, 06:29 PM
Thanks Trish :hug:

Carol Sue I was on insulin with my last two pregnancies in 2000-2001 and 2003-2004. I didn't have diabetes after I had them. I was just told to watch it. Then in 2011 I tested high but was told I didn't need insulin which I actually asked for.

03-24-2014, 10:42 PM
I usually exercise on the recumbent bike after lunch when I'm through cleaning up the dishes. Today, I made the mistake of watching a couple of movies with DH and suddenly realized it was after six and I hadn't done anything especially the bike. I was so exhausted, but I needed to ride it. I folded some clothes that I didn't fold yesterday while trying to trying to tell myself that I really needed to do it, however, in reality I wanted to take a nap. I am so proud of myself tonight because I not only decided to ride it and did 4.5 miles in 40 minutes. I was so tempted to go 5 miles &/or 45 minutes, but I have to build up to it because of my knees. I am going to make it my goal to do 45 minutes on the bike and once I reach that I will continue riding 45 minutes 3 - 4 days a week.

I was talking to my oldest son (who has become my cheerleader) Saturday when I rode 4 miles. I wasn't sure I could do the 4 miles, but he told me I could and cheered me on. Then when I did it, he said, "Mama, I am so proud of you and you should be proud of yourself too. Do you realize that there aren't many people your age who can do that?" Sure made me feel so good. I just had to share this with y'all.

03-25-2014, 10:31 AM
Trish, your son speaks the truth! I think the reason why older people become unable to get around is because they become inactive. My uncle lived to be 92 and he was still driving and getting around fine. He told me he walked every day. It's very important to our mobility.

I am also proud of you that you rode your bike even though you were tired and your body is probably glad you did. You go girl!!!

We went to the Goodwill store and I bought the book The Flat Belly Diet for $2. I don't usually read books about a specific diet because they usually don't work for me, but this one is interesting. There is a 4 day jumpstart plan. That is so much better than the 2 week induction on Atkins. This section tells you specifically what to eat and drink for 4 days. After that, you eat 3 meals a day of 400 cal each, 4 hours apart. The only thing that's a must is MUFA, or monosaturated fat. That is supposed to aim for belly fat and must be included in your meals. You also get to make a 400 cal "snack pak" of things you can snack on throughout the day based on a list of snack items and their cal count. It's not junk food, but healthy foods to snack on.

There is also this Sassy Water than you make. You make a jug of it every day to drink. It contains, ginger, cucumbers, lemons, and spearmint leaves. I'll bet you could add ACV to it, too! LOL

Once I get through this blood sugar issue, I might try this. There's no weird foods to buy, and most of the foods are things that I like. That's a big thing for me, to be able to eat things I like. I read a review online about it and it said that although there is no guarantee that everyone will lose on this diet, it is healthy, and aimed at reducing bloat and fat around the middle. That's where I need help. Do you believe my waist measurement is the same as my hip measurement? That happened after my two abdominal surgeries and they destroyed my abdominal muscles, but there is fat there, too. I always say I'm shaped like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. LOL

Rennie, so you wanted to be on insulin. I guess once you get used to using it, it's OK, but it scary to me. One young woman at work developed gestational diabetes and has been on an insulin pump ever since.

03-25-2014, 11:45 AM
I just got the results of my bloodwork. My A1c is 9.7!!! Yikes! I knew it was going to be bad, judging by the readings I've had. He wants to see me in the office on Friday to discuss it, which is what I wanted. I'm hoping he will not put me on an expensive med. I also need to tell him that the dose of metformin he has me on is too high. If I take the third dose of the day I get nausea and vomiting during the night, so I've only been taking 2 per day. I have been eating very low carb yesterday and today and I feel better. The brain-fog is lifting, but I'm also hungry.

03-25-2014, 09:53 PM
Carol Sue I have that book, but I didn't think I could eat all those carbs. I've thought about looking at it again after I read the book about reversing diabetes. Now that I'm doing the fiber way of eating, I need to look at it and see if I get some ideas from it. There used to be a thread for the Flat Belly Diet here on 3fc. I don't know if they still have it or not. I remember that drink and I made it without the mint and it was really good. I might could use it for the fiber and eat a little less calories with it. I think you were supposed to eat a certain amount of calories and divide them fairly evenly over 3 meals and maybe a snacks. I really can't remember that part. Good luck. You will get your blood sugar down. I think mine was up to 9.? or close at one time and it was a wake up call for me because I do not want go on insulin. You will do it.:hug:

I wanted to share a thread that I saw on the fiber thread I'm on. It is about rocking in a rocking chair for exercise. Quite interesting. I may have to get me a rocker.

Anyhow, read this article which explains it:


I ended up doing the 45 minutes/5 miles on the bike. So I've reached my goal. My knees did very well. I use a recumbent bike because it is supposed to be easier on the knees. I was tired after and actually took a nap, but it felt so good to do it. I won't ride tomorrow and I will do it again Thursday and maybe Saturday. My son actually taught me to apply Absorbine Jr. (Bengay, Icy Hot or something like that would work as well) before riding and I remembered to do that today and it worked. I will never do an hour on it. In fact, I won't go more than the 45 minutes because, I goofed when I first got the bike. I was talking to my Daddy while riding it back then and didn't watch the time. I rode it for 1 hr and hurt my knee and could barely walk for about a week or so. I know my limit. The real surprise that I had today is that my hip stopped hurting after riding. So this is going to be really good for my joints. We plan to go to see DH son and family in IN go to TX and see my family sometime in July. His son's family is always active and we are always going somewhere to walk around and I hope to be in really good shape to do it this time. An d I hope to be lighter. I wish I could be below 200 by then, but not sure I can be.

My calories are staying under MFP 1670 calories. Today I had 1553 calories, my fiber was 41 g and sodium was under 2000g. My fbs was 133 this morning. I really believe the exercising is bringing it down even more than the diet. I am very excited and finally motivated to keep this up.

Rennie Hang in there and don't give up. My weight was up 2 lbs this morning, but I actually believe it was because I didn't potty really good before I weighed like it usually is. So remember there are things going on you don't really know are happening. If you're eating like you know you need to for you, the weight will finally come down.:hug:

Ruthie, Fatmad and others reading. :wave:

Have a nice evening.

03-26-2014, 09:49 AM
I'm getting ready to leave for the cardiologist, but I just wanted to say that I have been eating low carb for the past 4 days and this morning I am down 4 lbs.

I'll be back later.

03-26-2014, 01:42 PM
All the cardiologist did was schedule an echocardiogram for over the summer. He did not request labs, so I will have my PCP do them when I see him on Friday. I don't want both of them doing them, but I want them done. It's been over a year.

My BP was up, but I convinced him it was white coat hypertension, so no change in my meds.

I was so happy to see that 4 lb whoosh this morning I put my ticker back up. I am finally sticking to low carb for more than one day. :carrot:

Trish, I read more of the Flat Belly book last night and you're right...to many carbs. I did like the idea of the Sassy Water, something different, and I liked the idea of three 400 calorie meals and 400 cals of snacks to use throughout the day. They DID give menus you were to follow for each meal and I don't like that. I like to pick my own foods. They recommended a lot of oatmeal which I already decided was only for once in a while for me. I think I will stick with what I've been doing the past few days, because it's working. I have cut out most starchy carbs. I had 1 spoonful of ramen noodles when DH was eating them, and 1 slice off a baked potato at dinner yesterday. Otherwise, it has been protein and veggies. I am getting a slight headache from the carb withdrawal, but I know that will go away. I have been exercising while watching my soaps, and also walking on the treadmill for 15 min after dinner. I feel great. I am optimistic about this. The tide has turned!

03-26-2014, 11:13 PM
Carol Sue I got the book out and looked at it too. It had a some good ideas, but I don't think I could do it. I don't know if I did something wrong or what but I gained on that diet instead of losing.

I thought about doing the Atkins Induction, but didn't because everything is going good right now. I always keep in mind that I can always do Atkins if I need to later. I'm glad things are working for you and CONGRATULATIONS on the 4 lb loss.

We went to eat at Long John Silvers today. I ate only 1 fillet, 3 shrimp, 1/2 the cole slaw, 1 1/2 hushpuppies, and 1/4 the fries and a little of the tarter sauce. I think it was too greasy although it didn't taste like it at the time. I've been sick with indigestion all afternoon and evening. I keep tasting the fries coming back on me. It seems like I've got to where every time I go out to eat that I get sick. Doesn't make eating out any fun any more.

I did manage to get my fiber in for today though. I'll write more tomorrow. Not feeling too well right now.

03-27-2014, 10:04 AM
Trish, I hope you're feeling better. We don't eat Long John Silvers very often, but when we do I usually get the chicken. I eat that and cole slaw. My husband gets the fish with corn. Then he eats my french fries and give me his cole slaw because he doesn't like it. I eat one hushpuppy and throw the rest away.

I think you should just stick with what you're doing. It seems to be working well for you. I think your fiber count is a good thing, and you wouldn't get that on Atkins. You can always cut back a little on your carbs if you stall. I am not following any actual plan. I am eating what I like, except for sugar and starchy carbs, and my weight is dropping just like it does during induction. I am down 2 more lbs this morning. I am not so foolish to think that I'm not going to stall after this initial whoosh, but seeing that number drop on the scale is keeping me motivated.

I see that you use a recumbent bike. I have had 2 regular bikes and had to get rid of both of them because they bothered my back. I think a recumbent bike would work for me, but DH doesn't want me to get one unless I get rid of another piece of equipment, and right now, I like and use all my equipment. I have this one thing called a Body Glide that he makes fun of, but I like it. It strengthens my thighs. It resembles a bike. You sit on it with your feet on the pedals and hands on the handlebars. When you push with your feet, your arms come toward you. It uses your body weight, which I have plenty of. It's from back in the 80's. I don't think they even make them anymore. I can really feel it in my thighs when I use it.

Rennie, I have not made the Oopsie Bread yet, but I bought the cream cheese for it. I saw a recipe yesterday that looked really good to me. It was little muffins you make for breakfast using eggs, milk, cheese, veggies and whole grain bread cubes. I want to substitute the Oopsie Bread and try it out.

Also, in her cookbook, Dana Carpender has some recipes for low carb bread made in a bread machine. I have a bread machine sitting here collecting dust. I might try some of these recipes. But this will all be after I've seen the doctor and improved my blood sugar. Right now this low carb is working so well for me I don't want to screw it up.

03-27-2014, 10:07 AM
Here is a pic of the Body Glide.

03-27-2014, 11:42 AM
Uh, oh! DH is making a grilled cheese sandwich. God, give me strength!

03-27-2014, 12:17 PM
Sending strength! Come here for lunch as I just made a chicken, grape and walnut salad and there's enough for two.

Still trudging along. I am anxiously awaiting spring so I can get out and walk in the Village. There is still too much ice - even in my lane.

03-28-2014, 11:46 AM
Ruthie I think of you and Madeliene and all this snow etc up there and I know you must really be ready for it to get out of there. We didn't get any more snow, but it has really been cold here and of course many places north of us still have had the white stuff. It is as if Mr. Winter didn't get the memo that he is supposed to be out of here and spring is supposed to be going on. I told DH that I didn't want to fuss too much because I know that we will be wishing for cooler weather when the hot summer hits. Always glad to see you check in.

Carol Sue I made big pitcher of Sassy water yesterday, but I think the cucumber gave me indigestion. I did put the ACV in it and used my liquid Stevia because I read that it is beneficial for diabetics. I made it today without the cucumber. I know ginger root is supposed to be good for digestion so taking the cuke out should make it really good for getting my system straightened out.

I made split pea soup. Someone on another thread mentioned it and then I saw it in the Flat Belly Diet book. So cooked it and added a lot of veggies, even a red potato with skin for fiber and it was good. I took part of the soup and blended it in the MagicBullet and then put it back in for thickness. Oh, I read in the Prevention diabetic cookbook that diabetics can have potatoes if they leave the skin on it. I even make my mashed potatoes with the skin on it and it is really tasty.

My scales are bouncing again up a lb and I hope that means I'm going to see 225 soon. I have to remember that my body does that. I was disappointed at first, but then my fbs was 127 this morning. So that was encouraging. We have to go to pick up a prescription for DH when they call and tell us it is ready and then go to Walmart. I've never tried quinoa, but I hear it is better for us than rice and someone said Balsamic vinegar is really tasty so I just may get some to try. I'm looking forward to spring and the local farmer's market having fresh fruit and veggies.

Oh, I need to tell y'all about something DH and I are doing. I read on FB and then looked up something about making okra water and drinking it 1st thing in the morning before you eat anything. You take a glass of water and cut the ends off of 2 okra pods and slit it from the bottom half way up and place them in the water and let it set over night. Then in the morning at least 30 minutes before you eat breakfast, throw the pods away and drink the water. It can take up to 3 months I think it was but they say many people are getting their fbs back to normal doing it. I really think that is what has kept us from seeing the fbs reading of 200s any more. It has worked slowly and we had a few times that we ran our and I forgot to get the okra when at the store and those days I have seen the numbers up a little, but at least I am seeing the lower #s again. You might want to research and read about it before you try it. I wasn't going to tell our doc, but our numbers were so much better this last time that DH told him. He said, "Well, it obviously works. So keep it up."

I am no doing 45 min/ 5 miles on my recumbent bike. Carol Sue I do the hand weights while I ride. Got the idea from Walk Away the Pounds where she had us walk and use weights. Sure makes my upper back sore though.

Rennie How you doing? Think of you a lot.

Fatmad, Bonnie and others :wave:

03-28-2014, 12:02 PM
Hi! I'm new here. I still do not have an 'official' diagnosis bc it just seems like on the days (every 4 months) I have my blood drawn my fasting is in that gray area but my A1c levels and post prandials all point to diabetes. At my Dec appt I told my dr I felt like I was waiting for a shoe to drop and she suggested that I need to just act like I have the official diagnosis already bc it really is already happening in my body. Since then I've been grappling with what to do, how to change. Obviously losing weight is good.....but that has alluded me for a long time so I've been struggling with trying again. I know I have a sugar addiction (and binge eating disorder) so going low carb is my goal but it's a struggle to really do it. I keep dancing around with it. Anyway, all this to say hello! :wave:

03-28-2014, 06:33 PM
Hi Shannon. :welcome3: It is true that losing weight is the best thing for controlling diabetes. However, it isn't easy to do. We seem to have a tendency to go through a period of denial before we get to the place to where we can finally realize that it is true and then we seem to settle down and start working at it. It takes time to work it out in our minds that we have to do something and do it.

We all have learned that One Diet doesn't fit all. What one diabetic can eat doesn't mean that every diabetic can eat it. Do you test your fasting blood sugar in the mornings to see how that runs? Most of us at one time or another have have used our meters to learn how foods affect our blood sugars. That is how we have learned that there are some foods that we cannot eat and others that we can.

Ask questions as that is how you learn. We are hear to help you. Good luck on your journey.

03-28-2014, 08:18 PM
We went to eat at Arby's and I had about 3/4 of a fish sandwich. I had a lot of fiber for breakfast and by the time we got to Arby's, my stomach was not feeling good. Eating the sandwich helped the nausea, but then indigestion set in. I had to shop at Walmart while DH got his medications. I started feeling really bad and had to sit for a few minutes before continuing to shop.

I've decided that the high fiber is doing a real number on my stomach so I'm going to stop eating so much of it. I know I have to be careful eating too much raw veggies, but obviously I can't eat a lot of fiber grains either. I don't think some will hurt once I get my stomach straightened out, but it be as much as I have been eating. I will decide by Monday exactly what I'm going to do.

03-28-2014, 09:31 PM
I still need to catch up on this thread ...

Trish, thanks you are the sweetest. :hug: ... oh thanks for the coffee :)

Carol Sue glad low carb is working for you :)

Ruth I'll be glad when the ice melts for you and Madeleine ;)

Shannon, I am a hop, skip and a jump from Raleigh but I'm learning that it's a huge city (we've been here almost 2 years) :) Glad to have you here :)

I am doing good. I saw an all time low (for this go around) fbs 109 ... I have run out of strips and they won't arrive until 4/2 -3 so I'll have to be good until I get them. My weight has also been great I saw a new low of 163.6. I told my daughter I haven't been that weight since I was pregnant with her in 92-93 and that is only because I went from 128 to 199.5. Yeah I gained a ton of weight with her. I really believed I was eating for two :dizzy:

Well my goal is to get to 160 by my 48th bday on 4/14 and I am so hoping to see that present :crossed:

03-28-2014, 09:36 PM
Welcome Shannon! Trish gave you some good advice. Since your doctor has not started you on meds, it is best if you watch your carb intake. Eliminate as much as you can. Make better choices and eat smaller portions. It is very beneficial to walk, especially after meals. It doesn't have to be a long walk. 15 minutes or so should definately help.

Trish - Definately cut back on the fiber if it's bothering you. I had to cut way back after getting those belly pains and haven't had them for a while. I love quinoa! I cook it in chicken broth and add some frozen mixed veggies in with it. I use a little more liquid than the package calls for, I think 2 parts liquid to 1 part quinoa. It is different, and takes some getting used to. I didn't like it the first time I made it, but the next time I used more liquid and let it cook a little longer, until the broth was gone.

I have bought frozen okra but I don't even know if our stores have fresh okra. I think it's a southern thing that's only catching on around here recently. I only use the frozen in my veggie soup.

I went to the doctor today to get my new script for my BS. I asked him to give me Amaryl that I had taken when I was first diagnosed and he agreed that would work. Since we were going to the casino and I didn't know how my body was going to react to the new med, I only took half the dose. My BS dropped like a rock. When we got home I tested at 81. I haven't had an 81 since 2008. I was afraid to go to bed for fear it would drop too low, so I grilled a piece of fish and ate that. I will test again before I go to bed to make sure it's not too low. I have to find out how this is supposed to work because I don't want to have to keep eating something to keep my sugar from going too low. Diabetes sucke!

Ruthie - Thanks for the offer for lunch, but our weather is warming up so I think I'll stay here. LOL I didn't eat any of the grilled cheese, by the way! Yay Me!

03-29-2014, 01:21 AM
Hi Shannon. :welcome3: It is true that losing weight is the best thing for controlling diabetes. However, it isn't easy to do. We seem to have a tendency to go through a period of denial before we get to the place to where we can finally realize that it is true and then we seem to settle down and start working at it. It takes time to work it out in our minds that we have to do something and do it.

We all have learned that One Diet doesn't fit all. What one diabetic can eat doesn't mean that every diabetic can eat it. Do you test your fasting blood sugar in the mornings to see how that runs? Most of us at one time or another have have used our meters to learn how foods affect our blood sugars. That is how we have learned that there are some foods that we cannot eat and others that we can.

Ask questions as that is how you learn. We are hear to help you. Good luck on your journey.
Hi Trish! Right after that last dr appt I bought more strips and for a week or so tested my FBS daily and random meals/food items. I learned a little but kind of burned out on pricking (yeah, I know it's just something to get over, lol) and stopped and since have only tested if I felt weird or had symptoms I was concerned could be high BS. My highest high PP was in the 150s, my FBS runs 99-120. My A1c in Dec was 6.2%. For a month after that appt I started not eating as much of the starchy carbs and lost 8 lbs pretty quickly. But TOM came and I saw a gain over a couple weeks and I kind of lost heart. Now it's a couple months later and I'm ready to try again.

03-29-2014, 01:25 AM
Shannon, I am a hop, skip and a jump from Raleigh but I'm learning that it's a huge city (we've been here almost 2 years) :) Glad to have you here :)
Thanks Rennie! Nice to see someone local here. I've been in the Raleigh/Cary/Morrisville area for 15 years!

03-29-2014, 01:33 AM
Welcome Shannon! Trish gave you some good advice. Since your doctor has not started you on meds, it is best if you watch your carb intake. Eliminate as much as you can.
Hi Carol Sue! I have previously been on Metformin when I had a different GP but went off it while pregnant 4 yrs ago. I had no issues with it then. I asked about trying it again last summer. My new GP was not really in favor but wrote the script; however, for some reason the GI symptoms were much worse and I discontinued after a few weeks. The GP stated in Dec that they prefer not to prescribe until there is an official diagnosis. It amazes me how there is such a difference amongst doctors, lol! So, no, no meds right now which is fine with me. Dietary and exercise changes definitely needed!

03-29-2014, 10:24 AM
Shannon, I would love to have your numbers without meds. I think if you watch your carbs and exercise you will be good to go. Just keep testing now and then to be sure. No reason to panic at this point. I didn't get diagnosed until I was full blown D...no warning.

And Rennie, I would love to be 48 again. I was almost old enough to drink when you were born.:D You are doing VERY WELL!

03-29-2014, 07:23 PM
I'm not giving up on the fiber. I know the importance of eating it. I am babying my tummy right now so my fiber is low, but calories and sodium are good. 1487 calories, 1451 mg sodium and fiber 12 g. I am going to try to keep my fiber around 15 g or so until my tummy is feeling better. Until then I am going to focus on keeping my calories and sodium down. Later when I can, I will work at raising my fiber again, but slowly. My fbs has been 127 for 2 days in a row and I want to keep it that way. I don't plan to raise my fiber extremely high next time. At this time, I plan to raise it to no more than 25 to 30 grams.

When I was in my late 20, I had colitis. I haven't suffered with it in so many years that I had forgotten about it. Today, I remembered that the doctor I had back then told me that I had to be careful eating a lot of roughage/fiber because I could not eat a lot of it because it caused my colon to go into spasms. I took medicine for it for years. I'm not going to have it again so I will be careful and eat it in moderation.

I looked up indigestion on MedMd and it suggests eating small meals about every 2 hours. I never wanted to do that, but I think I will try doing it. In fact, I think IE would help with that as it says to eat about every 2 hours and eat only as much as needed to satisfy without feeling stuffed.

Weight seems to be stalled between 226 & 227 and I don't want to screw up here and gain. Thus watching calories mostly right now.

03-29-2014, 07:47 PM
shannon You seem to be doing the right things. Your fbs is good and if you keep doing what you are doing, you should never have full blown diabetes.

Rennie CONGRATULATIONS on the new low of 163.6. I hope you will make your goal of 160 on 4/14. Although it is difficult losing the last few lbs, I hope you will make it. I also pray that you are so close to it that if you don't make your goal date that you will continue until you do make it.

Carol Sue Glad your doc worked with you on the meds. I thought about asking doc to give me a prescription of for the med DH takes to lower my bs, but I'm afraid to take them. I tried one just one time and my bs went down so fast I thought I was going to die and then at one point I hoped I would. I had to eat something to get it back to normal and then I had to make myself move around to stay awake. I can now honestly understand how someone could just go into a coma and not wake up. Ever since then, I decided that I was going to fight to lower my fbs with diet and exercise. I never want to have to take it and I don't like needles so I don't want to take insulin either. Just work at getting it all working for you. Eat often enough to keep it working right for you.:hug: Good luck.

03-29-2014, 09:22 PM
Trish, the drug he put me on is Amaryl, or the generic Glimiperide. I was put on it when I was first diagnosed but after a week my PCP took me off it because I was doing well enough to just take metformin. It brings my BS down lower than it has been in years. I really had no choice, because I was staying in the 200s with spikes in the 300s. I also am afraid of it. I bought some glucose tablets to have on hand just in case. I am to take it with breakfast and dinner. Both of these meals are big enough that I shouldn't have a problem. I am checking my BS before I eat, to make sure I'm not already low before I take the meds. Then I check 2-3 hours after meals to be sure I didn't go too low. Then again at bedtime. I'm glad I have the $9 strips from Walmart for all this testing. Also, my exercise time is right after lunch so I shouldn't get a low from exercising. I don't want to stay on this med forever. I want to use it as a tool to get my sugar down while I work on diet and exercise. Eventually, I want to go back on just Metformin. If I find that this isn't working I will go back to taking the half dose.

I know that on this med, I would be able to eat more carbs, but I don't want to go back to them. I have done exceptionally well avoiding them and I don't want to screw up. I want to continue losing and keeping the carbs down.

I also have heard that this med can cause weight gain. YIKES!! I am wondering if it is because:

a. the drug itself causes weight gain
b. it increases appetite and you eat more
c. you eat more because you know the med will keep your BS down

I am prepared to deal with b and c, but if it's a, I will have to make a decision about it. Gaining weight is NOT going to help me at all. Today I was down another half pound, so that's 6 1/2. I am going to monitor it very carefully to make sure I don't start gaining.

After I had my colon surgery I was also told to watch my fiber intake, but I think that was just until everything healed. I'm not sure. I know the surgeon told me to eat lots of fruits and vegetables. I think I'm OK with the amount of fiber I eat.

I also never want to go on insulin. My son's FIL had a big problem once when he injected his dose of insulin at bedtime but for some reason the food he ate was not absorbed as quickly as it should have been and his BS went so low in the middle of the night his wife called an ambulance. Thank God she woke up and realized what was happening. I read that some foods start to be absorbed in the small intestines as soon as you eat it, and other foods go through the small intestines and are absorbed nearer the end of the large intestines. The same thing happened to him one day while he was cutting grass. There is just too much information you have to know about. Details about every little thing you eat.

03-29-2014, 09:49 PM
Carol Sue I really didn't mean to imply I was worried about you taking the Amaryl as I know you are cautious enough to take care of yourself while on it. If I was still having highs of 200 or more, I most certainly would talk to my doctor about giving me something with the Metformin, because I am aware of the dangers of it being so high and staying high for too long. So I understand and support you in your decision. Getting this disease under control is our biggest goal friend and we will do it.

Good night. Catch you tomorrow.

03-30-2014, 02:20 PM
Trish, I was not bothered by your comment. In fact, it made me feel good that you were watching out for me! We are a close bunch here and watch out for each other.

I woke up around 5 AM today, so since I was up anyway I checked my BS. It had gone up about 10 points overnight, which is not unusual. I wanted to wait and eat breakfast with my husband when he got up so I didn't eat or take my meds. I was waiting to take them with breakfast. By the time he got up around 9, my BS had gone up another 30 points! I had heard people say that if you go too long without eating your body will start dumping glucose, even if your BG is not low. I guess I was a prime example this morning. I only ate 2 scrambled eggs with sauteed mushrooms so I only took a half a pill. That did nothing. Two hours later my BS had not gone down at all but it also didn't go up, but it was too high (199). So I made a salad with spinach and iceberg lettuce and a hard boiled egg for lunch and took the other half of the pill. Now I'm waiting to check at 2 PM to see what happens. I think my BG is taking more than 2 hours to drop after I eat and I might be better off to check at 3 hours instead of 2. I'm not used to this much checking, but I want to see how these new meds are effecting me. Poor little fingers! LOL

I am working on breaking the habit of eating between meals, so I don't want to start eating more smaller meals. However, I am considering taking some calories from each meal and adding a very small snack between meals. If I go with the theory that the longer I go without eating the higher my glucose will go, then it's beneficial to me to have a small snack to keep my glucose steady instead of having the roller coaster. By a small snack, I mean a couple tablespoons of yogurt with a sprinkle of Fiber One, or a couple celery sticks with a bit of PB or hummus. Not enough to be considered a meal, but enough to tell my body I'm eating. And I will make sure I deduct some calories from my other meals rather than just adding more calories. I'm going to figure this out if it kills me. Hmmmm, I guess "kills me" was not a good choice of words.:)

03-30-2014, 03:33 PM
I woke up with indigestion this morning, but never told DH. We had planned to pick up DGS from campus so he could go to church with us. Then my beautician had written on FB and said she and her little 4 yr old GS was coming to church. So I dressed and decided to eat 1 slice of cheese toast before I went. I tried to eat just fruit before I went to church last week and was really wiped out before I got home. The toast only helped my tummy for a while and I was really ready to eat when we got home.

I've never had time to do the 2 week Atkins Induction, but I have 3 weeks coming up with nothing that I have to do except go to church, store and beauty shop. No doctor's appt. , nothing. So I've decided to switch to Atkins Induction for a few days. I'll take it one day at a time shooting for a week and then decide about the next week when I get there. I really think I have to do this for my stomach. Then I can build up the fiber and the carbs at the same time. I'm laying off of my coffee for a while and drinking decaf green tea and water.

Your trying to stop eating in between meals and I am going to have to learn how to eat 5 or 6 smaller meals. I think we both have learned what we need to do and now we just have to get it going. We can do this. :)

03-30-2014, 09:22 PM
Shannon yeah it is nice to meet someone that is close on here. :) and on the pricking of your finger after awhile your fingers get use to it ... I didn't think mine ever would. The worse was cutting an onion or potato. I had no idea that the juice in the potato would burn like an onion did. Who knew? :) Shannon where are you? Like I can talk, I've been MIA also ;)

Carol Sue, I like being the baby on this thread, well now my and Shannon. I learn a ton from you all :hug: Carol Sue, no not a good choice of words at all :hug: but when I was on insulin (I know you're not taking insulin) but I think I was told to eat a 100 calorie snack between meals and before bed I would eat 5 saltines nightly which to me was a treat (and a piece of cheese I think) :)

TrishI want to get in more fiber also. I think it's great that you do. I drink the occasional glass of warm prune juice but trying to stay away from bread which was my fiber go to with the double fiber natures own. I may try it again after Lent. Though I messed up today with cake my son made, :( Thanks Trish on the making my goal :hug: I will definitely not give up. :) Trish when you do Atkins induction would you mind posting your meals. I'd like to see how you're doing with what you're eating :)

... saw a new low of 163.2 yesterday and was up .2 today to 163.4. Then after church I came in here and ate some of my sons snacks, then my other son made a cake and I ate some of that ... duh, what on earth am I thinking/doing? :?: The boys had been talking about going to the gym since early this morning so we made it before they closed. I did 2.44 miles on an incline and burned 325 calories which was only the cake but still better than nothing so I hope I didn't do too much damage. I don't want to see anymore ups on the scale ... can I say EVER :D

03-30-2014, 09:39 PM
Happy Sunday! We went to my hometown today because my brother was filling in for the pastor at his church and we wanted to hear him preach. His church had a luncheon afterwards. Wow, gobs and gobs of fried chicken, breads and desserts. I did good with carbs on my meal but caved on the desserts. Afterwards we ended up staying in town longer than planned and ate dinner at a local place we like and it was another carb festival. I feel bloated!

03-30-2014, 10:37 PM
Happy Sunday to you also :) Sorry about the bloat but get as much water as you can in to reduce the sodium part of the bloat and start fresh tomorrow :)

My sons cooked seasoned fries and fried chicken thighs oh my goodness it smells good in here :drool:

03-31-2014, 12:32 AM
ERennie I planned my menu for tomorrow. So I will post it for you tonight.

Breakfast - 2 sl bacon, 2 eggs, 1 sl American cheese & 1/2 avocado

Lunch - 6 chicken wings and 1/2 c broccoli

Dinner - 4 oz whiting fillet and 1/2 c asparagus

Snack #1 - 2 sl Hickory smoked turkey 1 sl reduced fat swiss cheese

Snack #2 - egg salad made with mayo and dill relish and mayo

This comes to 1281 calories, 16 g carbs, 2536 mg sodium and 9 g fiber

I won't be doing the 5 miles on my bike while doing AI beca use Atkins recommends not exercising while on Induction. However, I will decided to do the 3.5 miles 3x a week because I don't want to lose ground and I don't want my hip to start hurting again. Also the sodium is a little high, but according to the new Atkins book when doing low carb especially during Induction, we need the salt to prevent the leg cramps. So for now I'm not going to worry about it because I sure hate waking up in the middle of the night with those leg cramps.

03-31-2014, 07:52 AM
Thanks Trish, I will have to subtract the avocado, and the radish but I'm going to try to do the rest. My son cooked chicken for dinner last night so I'm gonna have chicken for breakfast. I'll do bacon, eggs, cheese and nuts for lunch or dinner (my middle son said we were having breakfast for dinner today so we shall see :) I may just do it for lunch and have fish and broccoli for dinner. I'll have to see about the second serving of eggs. I don't know if mentally I can do two servings of eggs in a day :)

New low today 162.6 my gym time yesterday after my snacking paid off.

03-31-2014, 11:30 AM
We are going to have to rename this thread "Carolina Chat!" LOL

Shannon, I would love to live in the south because of all the southern cooking, but some of it is very high fat and calories, although delicious. When I was doing low carb years ago (Atkins) I didn't worry about fat and calories, as long as I didn't eat the carbs.

Yay Rennie!!! It's possible that the snacking shocked your system into dropping some weight. I really don't think that a little slip up here and there hurts, and it might even help to switch things around a bit. It's not like you had a binge. You were concious of what you ate and got right back on program. I don't mean to minimize your exercise, I'm sure that helped. All is well.

Oh, saltine crackers are a weakness for me. I like them with butter on them. I am starting to calm down about this new med and will just take it the way the dr prescribed it and see what happens. Not make such a big deal about it. I refuse to add carbs to my diet though. My weight has stayed the same, no ups or downs. If I see that my bs is dipping too low I will add a snack between meals, but make it celery or some other veggie.

Trish- I hope your belly calms down. I will be curious to see if there's an improvement after you have cut back on fiber. I think your menu looks very tasty! Make sure you drink lots of water. Some people just can't handle high fiber, and with your history of colitis that might be the case. At some point you will figure out how much fiber you can eat without any problems.

Avacados were on sale for $1 each and I bought two. I made some guacomole with one and ate it with my eggs this morning. I don't buy them often because I'm the only one who eats them and the guacomole doesn't keep well.

Awhile back I tried a recipe I saw on another board. You cut the avacado in half and remove the seed. Cut a slice off, leaving the skin on, and saute the slice in a little butter til browned. Then you turn it over and break an egg into the hole. The whites run out over the avacado. Put a lid on the pan to steam-cook the egg. It was good, and something different. The reason you leave the skin on is because it helps hold the avacado slice together so you can flip it over easily. You could take the skin off, but it will be very flimsy. I might try that tomorrow with the other avacado.

03-31-2014, 12:32 PM
:hug: Carol Sue, you're right the snacking may have been an alarm for my body :). I know that brisk walking helps me cut water weight/weight quickly. That is all I did 4 years ago and ate frozen meals and a grapefruit twice a day with a sensible breakfast and a cup of grapes after my walks and I dropped 30LBS in 3.5 months. So I will tell anyone that it can work. Consistency for me is the key. I walked faithfully 5-6 days a week 3 miles plus outdoors and it worked wonders. I haven't been consistent on this journey at all. I have fell off the wagon way too many times. I should definitely be at goal by now. Wasn't it your signature that said if I had done this years ago I'd be at goal now? That is so true for me. But I either gave up for whatever ridiculous reason or I got too comfortable with the way I looked and said I'm done not knowing how to maintain. I hear that maintenance is harder than losing. I have 30LBS to go so I'll have plenty of time to prayerfully get it right ;) Now you've got me thinking about what saltines taste like with butter on them. I love bread and butter. :drool: that's why I have to stay away from it. But maybe a few saltines with some promise spread or spray butter (it's a thought). I'll let you know if I try it :)

On your medicine. I don't doubt you one moment. You make good decisions with what's good for you and you do your research. Like I said I have learned a ton here with you all, so just keep on teaching :) Advice is what it is, advice! People use it at will and in my opinion if we took the time to listen to the really good advice it would keep us out of the mess that we keep slipping into. SO POST AWAY :hug: I'm listening :)

My little one told me this morning while waiting for her bus that she thinks I am losing weight too fast (she's 10). She said, "because if you keep losing weight you're gonna have to buy all new clothes!) her bus came so I'll have to ask her to finish what she was saying this evening. Kids are funny :D

Went to the gym did 2.62 miles burn 325 calories, feeling good :)

03-31-2014, 02:09 PM
I'm having a very rare 'proud of myself' moment and thought I'd share! I've prepped several items today to help with my eating this week along with eating low carb at breakfast and lunch when frankly it would have been much easier to eat what I was making my 3.5 yr old. That's big for me - yay!

And, I decided Mondays will be my official weigh day since it is usually the worst day of my week bc I eat more off plan on weekends. I have lost a little just since restarting - another yay!

03-31-2014, 02:21 PM
:yay: Shannon great NSV's :) and just a little is great also :high:

03-31-2014, 03:04 PM
Rennie - I don't know if you looked back at my food plan for today. I took out the other 2 eggs. In fact I may have changed the menu in a few places since last night because it was a quick thought last night, but thought out more today.

Shannon - Those are great accomplishments. CONGRATULATIONS! :carrot: I know exactly how that feels because when my 2nd husband was living and our children were home, it was sometimes difficult to cook the carby foods for them and not eat them. I had a child care service in my home and I could usually stay on plan during the day, but if I made something really good when the family got home that was difficult for me. You can be proud of yourself.

Carol Sue I got my avocados at Costco the other day because they were a good quality. I have one of those Stone Waves advertised on tv and it would be really easy to cook the avocado and egg (steamed) in it. Also like the idea of making the guacomole to go on them too. So I will be trying both ways. And I will keep skin on while steaming avocado and egg.

I need to turn my wings (baking). DH will have hot wings, but I'm passing on that till my tummy is better.

Have a good day ladies.

03-31-2014, 04:52 PM
Trish, LOL your menu has changed since I looked at it this morning :)

Not sure what's going on with me. Since I left the gym I haven't been hungry and I know I have to eat ... I don't want my body to go into starvation mode.

03-31-2014, 08:15 PM
Rennie Eating the small meals have satisfied me so that I don't think I'm going to eat anything else tonight which will make me short on carbs and fiber. I haven't erased anything yet, but I may have to. It feels good not to be hungry doesn't it.

I ended up with dinner being the whiting fish fillet and asparagus. Didn't care for the whiting fish, but wanted fish instead of steak. I have one more serving of whiting in that package and then I won't be purchasing it any more. I wanted the cod, but it is the only fish DH will eat so I saved it for later in the week. Might have the steak tomorrow.

I did my recumbent bike for 27 minutes which was 3 miles. I've decided to do 3 miles for 3 or 4 days this week while eating less carbs while my body adjusts. I had to push for that... just don't have the energy to do 4 miles which takes me about 35 minutes. I have been kind of tired today. I'm not sure I get up to 20 g of carbs today.

03-31-2014, 08:24 PM
Trish it does feel good not to be hungry :) I'd like some well seasoned fish, the last whiting I had I put a ton of hot sauce on it ;)

I think I like going to the gym early in the morning. I want to increase my calorie intake but really need some help doing it so that I don't over indulge. I want to get them up to 1600 so that I have my exercise calories mean something.

03-31-2014, 08:39 PM
I've put an egg salad back on my list if I need it. However, I really need to eat it if I can so I can eat at least 1200 calories. I make my plan and then I tweat it throughout the day to adjust solium, calories and now carbs and fiber. So it is different from original plan, but it is better because sodium is lower.

I read that you shouldn't exercise right after a meal. I got half way through my exercise and indigestion hit me really hard so I guess I will have to start waiting 2 hrs after eating to exercise.

This is all a learning experience and learning to listen to the signals my body sends me. I'm not hungry, but I have to say I reeaaalllyy want my usual carbs right now. However, I do know that you have to do the AI for a good 3 days before the cravings go away. By day 4, I should be rid of those cravings. So I probably will make myself eat the egg salad later this evening.

I'll catch y'all tomorrow.

04-01-2014, 08:47 AM
Here's the April Chat :)