Depression and Weight Issues - No stamina to bath/brush teeth. Exercise?!




thirti4thirty
02-04-2014, 03:32 AM
It's a bit of an embarrassment to make this post, but I have resolved to do every thing to help myself to lose the weight this time around.
I have one simple question. How do you gather enough strength to exercise when you don't have enough strength to accomplish simple daily activities such as bathing or cleaning your teeth?
Despite my current antidepressant treatment, all I feel like doing is to lie here on my stomach and watch T.V all day. Meanwhile I've got one million things to do.
Is it the depression, or mere laziness? I don't know anymore. Why do I feel this stone on me every time, such that putting my feet on the floor to get anything done becomes a feat?
How do YOU do it?!!


vealcalf2000
02-04-2014, 05:27 AM
Is your doctor aware that your current anti depressant doesn't seem to be working? I'd check with him/her to make sure you are on the right prescription and/or dosage.

Many of us have to give ourselves a little push to exercise. The great thing about it is once you're done you normally feel wonderful, and that wonderful feeling is what inspires you to do it again!

I'd suggest starting small and something easy like walking. I splurged ($29) and got an expensive pedometer that's very accurate (cheap pedometers will count steps even when you're not walking :( ) Sometimes just adding some extra steps to everyday tasks can invigorate and inspire you to do more. LOL sometimes I'll even make a game of it...running up and down the steps to carry extra loads of laundry. It became fun to see how many extra steps I could get in each day. Now I walk on a regular basis, go to the gym, and participate in 5ks.

This may not be your thing it's just a suggestion. Everyone is inspired by something different. You just have to find your inspiration!

thirti4thirty
02-04-2014, 06:02 AM
I did it. I got up, gathered my training clothes, dusted my treadmill, put the t.v on and got my usual 400 calories and 3 miles in. I was smelling bad. Because I had not even bathed in days :ink::ink::ink: On normal days I bath before and after exercising. The room around me was smelling quite bad, but I insisted and did it. There, I said all of it. I am soo not feeling like myself with the medication. I was so out of shape that I actually had to sit down to take my bath.
When I'm done shedding my 60 lbs (in 11 months) I'm surely gonna make a link to this tread. One day. Some day :df:
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VermontMom
02-07-2014, 09:14 AM
I'm sorry I didn't see this post before, to offer you :hug: Yay to you that you got up and did the treadmill! :cheer2:

Psychic
02-07-2014, 10:48 AM
Good job on just getting up and doing it. Depression is hard, but forcing yourself to go through the motions of daily life will actually help you.

I agree with what vealcalf said though... Talk to your doctor. You might not be on a medication that is working well enough for you.

thirti4thirty
02-07-2014, 12:29 PM
Thanks for your support, Vermontmom and Psychic.
I was happy I did it. I'll be seeing my therapist next week. I'll have to tell her about the drug.:hug::hug::hug: y'all!

WhoDat730
02-08-2014, 04:39 PM
You are not alone! I have those days too. Unfortunately they have been more frequently lately. It's like a inner battle to force myself out of bed to take a shower or do anything. And exercise! Moving to the bathroom is exhausting, I can't even imagine exercising! I know once I do it I feel better but sometimes that's not enough to motivate me. Then the not doing anything depresses you more, it's quite the vicious circle. Although it helps to talk to others who understand. You should definitely talk to your doctor if your meds are making you feel worse. I wish you all the best and hope your doctor figures out something better for you! :hug:

Sasha29
02-09-2014, 06:50 PM
Have you had a physical lately? It could be a number of things besides depression - like hypothyroidism, adrenal fatigue, low iron, vitamin D deficiency, seasonal affective disorder, sleep apnea, etc. Whatever it is, don't settle for living your life like this. A doctor should be able to figure it out and find a combination of meds to treat it.

thirti4thirty
02-10-2014, 01:17 AM
I have been told several times to go and get my thyroid checked. I don't know why I've been waiting for so long. Imma get it done this month.

GreyMatter
02-11-2014, 09:33 AM
I pace.

It's the only way I've found to both manage my depression and manage my life. Instead of getting on the elliptical and forcing myself to "WORK" out (which feels horrible and punishing), I just fall into a certain mindset, and pace.

The bedroom, the living room, the hall, the basement...doesn't matter. Just back and forth.

The motion of going back and forth puts my mind into a kind of forward-moving trance, which gets the blood flowing, and somehow that blood must make it to my brain because after that, I'm able to do other things. Also, the trance mode of one foot in front of the other, repeat, repeat, turn, repeat, repeat, turn again...mollifies the feeling of overwhelm. So, things like cleaning a disaster of a house are no longer impossible.

30+ years of treatment-resistant depression have forced me to find weird ways of coping.

thirti4thirty
02-11-2014, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the tip, greymatter. I'll try it next time. In my case I can't even gather enough stamina to put one foot on the floor. I'm just starting my treatment so I'm hoping I'll get better soon. I'm tired of depression. I really am. Are you losing weight too?

GreyMatter
02-11-2014, 12:02 PM
I don't know if depression is different for everyone. I know what you mean by not being able to gather enough stamina to do things, but not sure if I understand the depth of your particular experience. I've always had a low-grade depression that's worse at certain times. Sometimes it's harder to get out of bed, but I always find a way to do it. I don't know how it would be if I simply could not muster the strength at all.

The pacing is really mental, more than physical. I know it's "my space." If that makes any sense. It's like medication for me. I can kind of zone out, tune out everything and be safe. And for that reason, I enjoy it and the will to do it comes naturally. It propels me upward. Not many things propel me. But, if I know something is going to "fix" me, then I am motivated to try it. The most important thing for me is that I hate being "made" to do stuff. I have to be intrinsically motivated. The problem with depression is being weighted down by too many extrinsic motivations that only hurt in the long run. I ask myself a lot - Is there anything at all that *you* would like right now? Often, I don't have an answer. But, occasionally, I do. Stupid things like painting my nails or reading a book (which I don't like to do often enough either). If I can find that one tiny thing that brings me some modicum of happiness, I cling to it in the moment. It sometimes propels me to the next thing. Sometimes not. Pacing usually does.

Am I losing weight? Not really sure. I don't really weigh myself anymore as I found that to be too discouraging. I pay more attention to how I feel physically, what makes me feel bad, what makes me feel good, etc. I eat when stomach hungry and if I find myself eating for comfort, I attempt to use other measures whenever possible, but don't beat myself up if I eat for comfort. I feel thinner, if that matters. I care about myself more than my appearance, although I understand that appearance matters to a degree. But, the things that bring me *unnecessary and unhelpful* pain, I avoid, such as the scale, bad photos, tighter clothes, etc.

thirti4thirty
02-11-2014, 12:05 PM
I see, dear. Do whatever works for you, because you know yourself better than anyone. Wishing good luck!!

ediesbeads
02-27-2014, 02:36 PM
It sounds like depression more than laziness to me. When I got really depressed in college I would do that. Just lay in bed and not move all day. When I moved home, my mom would have to prompt me to do everything like bath, brush my teeth etc.

Now I have more irritability when I'm depressed. I grump at my husband, I grump at my kids, I scream, I cry etc. So I went on cytalopram and it was better. I didn't scream as much. But I still just did the bare minimums.... I bathed, did the dishes, did my work. But all without joy or interest. Then I sat at the computer and wasted time, or hid in my room and read.

One month ago my doctor urged me to try a larger dose of cytalopram. I'm on 40 mg now. It took 2-3 weeks to really feel better. But now I have decided to start losing weight. I started taking my vitamins (B vitamins give you a lot of energy!) Now I'm excercising, I'm smiling more, and I generally feel alive again.

I would recommend getting your meds evaluated! You may be able to feel much better than you do now.

Good luck! And Good job on walking on the treadmill!

Desiderata
03-08-2014, 03:59 PM
:rolleyes: My PSA for this thread is a reminder that 3FC has an ignore function that can occasionally be quite helpful when people come trolling and playing know-it-all Internet doctor.

OP - good luck. Whether it's depression or another medical issue, I hope you find something that helps. From what you've shared, it does sound like something to explore further with your doctor.

Occheermommy
03-10-2014, 03:46 PM
I totally feel for u thirty. I have been there and am still there to some degree. I have made progress but it is a long haul. Kinda like this post. Ut I can relate to u so want to share. Sorry so long
I lived in Ca all my life until about 7 years ago. I moved to az with my family and stopped working to stay home with my kids. Well being the worst stay at home mom in the world I spent most days in bed for 5 years. I tried at least a dozen meds. The doctor would up them when I told them it wasn't working. I already knew I had fibromyalgia and anxiety and depression. I had been on Effexor for years. Then they tried me on cymbalta for 2 years, I would have days where I would get out of bed to practice a hobby I picked up like sewing or cake decorating or something. But it wasn't consistent. The cymbalta made me sweat something serious and not wanting to shower was not a good combo. I finally said this isn't working. I read everything I could on anti depressants and forums from people with depression and lack of motivation with it. The best drug I found that people liked was Wellbutrin. One problem. I have minor epilepsy and no doc will order it because it can cause seizures. Even though I haven't had a seizure in 20 years and the doc said I probably don't even need meds anymore, I still take them. And last EEG was normal. Anyway I was also put on thyroid meds in that time, can't remember exactly when.
So after cymbalta they tried me on many other things that I don't remember they names of but all made me hungover and groggy and I quit in one week or less. In the mean time I mostly stayed on the cymbalta until I found something that worked. Then before Christmas I ran out for a week and felt like I was going to die. I couldn't even regulate my body temp. I got an emergency appt with my psych and I saw a different doc. She put me on Zoloft. Said it seemed to work best with people with anti motivation type depression. I am rarely sad or crying. Don't feel suicidal. Just don't want to engage in normal activity. So I started it and I swear to u I felt better the next day. It usually it takes 4 weeks. I mean it wasn't 100% but I could move a little. Didn't feel like dying.
So in the last 2 or so years I moved back to Ca after hubby lost his job. Have had a bunch of stress like law suits and bk and being broke. Also daughter in car accident and hubby traveling a lot. We r getting thru it and I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel. But I am actually doing a bit better.
I worked for a bit at hobby lobby and picked up a knitting habit. I can't call it a hobby because I do it a little more obsessively than that. But I get out of bed every day. And I brush my teeth daily. I keep my kitchen pretty clean. The rest of the house is coming ever so slowly. Still wish I showered daily but they r getting better. I know that sounds gross but I totally get where u r coming from. I think it is a combo of the meds, follic acid which is sometimes low in people with depression and vit d. Also in some people with depression the folic acid does not cross the blood/brain barrier. There is a special med that has folic acid that does. U can ask doc about it if regular oc stuff does not work. It works fine for me.
My points I hope u gather r this. 1 u r not lazy, it is a disease and u shouldn't be ashamed, even if u don't neccesarily want people who don't have depression to know. 2 try Wellbutrin if u can, it is supposed to be the best 3 have your thyroid checked if u didn't already.4 exercise if u can but start slow. U don't want to burn out on it if it seems like a chore. 5. Find a hobby u like and see if it helps u to get out of bed to do it.
Those r the things that have helped me. I really hope it helps u some.
Beth
Oh and the weight loss thing is new for me over these last few years. I had given up for a while so I don't have a set exercise schedule but when I do walk I feel better.

Sasha29
03-10-2014, 05:37 PM
Occheermommy, it sounds like you are making progress! FWIW, I'm on Wellbutrin, and it hasn't done much. You may not be missing out on much. It definitely hasn't been a miracle drug like I had hoped. I never thought to take folic acid supplements! Thanks for the info!

starvingforchange
03-10-2014, 05:42 PM
I feel for you. I am in the same place but I've tried anti depressants and they did not work. My seratonin levels are normal so it make me feel like I was shot out of a cannon and did not sleep. Talk about trying to lose weight when you cannot sleep. Now that will make someone depressed. Hang in there and know that there are many women in the exact same position. Together hopefully this forum will help those of use who are depressed from weight gain and other factors. I applaud you for pushing through. I hope you have a spouse that supports you as well. Mine has no patience for weight issues and related depression so it makes it an uphill battle.

nelie
03-10-2014, 05:54 PM
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Occheermommy
03-11-2014, 04:03 PM
Yeah as far as the folic acid goes there is a bunch of documentation that women don't get enough.nit is most important in child beating years.nof course always talk to doc before starting a supplement cause many can interfere with other meds. I think folic acid is one of the least so but still check. There are other articles that talk about it specifically in depressed patients. That's why they developed the prescription one. Just may be something to discuss at next visit.
The good news is that good veggies like broccoli and spinach have the most so maybe the moral of the story is that we just don't eat enough healthy veggies.
Go figure.