Does it Work? - My Glucomannan experiment




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Robsia
01-01-2014, 05:41 PM
I was reading this article in the Daily Mail about a drink that makes you feel full so you eat less: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2530164/Too-good-true-Diet-drink-acts-like-gastric-band-help-people-lose-stone-claim-scientists.html

And someone in the comments section mentioned that the primary ingredient was something called Glucomannan which, when i looked it up, seemed to have an actual real effect on weight loss.

So I did a bit of research and I bought some in powder form which is easily made up into a drink, or mixed with other food. And was also a LOT cheaper than the drink.

I only ordered it today so obviously I haven't got it yet, but in the interests of research when I start taking it I shall keep a record of my efforts here. Please note I will also be calorie counting and exercising as I normally would when i try to lose weight, but it'll be interesting to see if I manage to lose more than normal, and also feel less hungry than normal.

My normal weight loss seems to average at about 1.5 lb a week once it settles so anything more than 2 would be good.

Watch this space.


EasySpirit
01-01-2014, 05:45 PM
Thank you! I look forward to your results.

Catgoyle
01-01-2014, 08:03 PM
It will be interesting to see how it works. Apparently that is the same form of fiber in shirataki noodles and is supposed to be one of the best fibers to consume.


Robsia
01-02-2014, 06:45 AM
Day 1: Without Glucomannan

Weight loss. 1 lb so far.
I lost 1 lb overnight, which is good, but as we all know, the first few days tend to result in a larger loss than normal.

Calories: 1206.
My downfall is evening wine and nibbling. I tend to be quite good during the day, I have a small breakfast and lunch and a normal evening meal, but then I hit the wine bottle and the nibbles. So I had my normal meals, and I was strict with myself. No wine, and no nibbles. By the time I went to bed my stomach was growling audibly. I'm hoping that when I start the Glucamannan, that will stop, and I won't have the urge to nibble.

Exercise: 5.05 miles
I was good yesterday, I downloaded a pedometer onto my phone. Did 2.42 miles walking the dog, then did C25K week 1 in my bedroom. I know that sounds daft, but I do it in front of the TV watching an episode of Star Trek. I do the walking parts marching up and down in front of the TV, and alternating with side steps, and the running parts again back and forward in front of the TV. The workout only lasted 34 minutes and an episode of Star Trek is 45, so I just marched and stepped for the final eleven minutes. It probably isn't as good as a real workout, but I don't have to get out in the cold, and it's certainly as good as those workouts you do in front of videos. Then I worked out how many steps I had done according to the pedometer, and plugged it into here: http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/StepDistance.html

This gave me an equivalent distance of 2.3 miles. Then, you have to add on the steps walking round the house. According to the pedometer, I did 11891 steps yesterday in total, which converts to 5.05 miles.

I do have a treadmill which cost quite a lot of money, and I used to keep it in a little snug I had off the kitchen in our old house. But at the new house there is nowhere to put it so it's in the garage. So marching up and down the bedroom it is.

So, off to a good start unaided. Let's see how it goes.

Robsia
01-03-2014, 04:32 AM
Day 2: Without Glucomannan

Weight loss. 1.6 lb so far.
Another 0.6 gone this morning. I do love the early days when it drops off so quickly. I just wish it all went like that. Then I'd be at goal by 5th February!

Calories: 1343.
Meh - gave in to the nibble craving last night. Had my normal meals then later on had a slice of bread with the crusts cut off and a scraping of Utterly Butterly, which was 99 cals, then later on again a packet of Quavers which was 88 cals. I try to keep my calories as close to 1200 as possible, but so long as they are under 1500 I don't panic. Although I wouldn't want to push it to the 1500 every day. But I am hoping that the Glucomannan will quell the snacking cravings. Went to bed again last night with a growly tummy. Hoping that will go too.

Exercise: 5.05 miles
Did 2.43 miles walking the dog, then did C25K week 1 again in my bedroom watching Star Trek. This time I added three more jogging intervals, which upped my calories a little. I know it's working because I could feel it in my muscles, and at the end I was quite sweaty. But I can also feel that's it's not as bad as doing it for real, which is actually better as I'm more likely to stick with it. Did the equivalent of 2.35 miles this time. I don't know accurate it is, but it's something to work with. And as I don't eat back my exercise calories, it doesn't really matter.

Did 12912 steps yesterday in total, which converts to 5.48 miles.

My Glucomannan is due to be delivered today between 13:53 and 14:53 so I shall have some before dinner tomorrow and see what a difference it makes.

Robsia
01-03-2014, 09:17 AM
It's come it's come!!

I wasn't sure how to take it. On the packet it said to mix with food and take three times a day, but on the website I bought it from, it says to take it with plenty of water to ensure it reaches the stomach. So I suppose to follow both directions you'd mix it with food and drink plenty of water on the side.

Also on the internet I have read to make it up into a drink and drink an hour before eating.

Well, I had literally just finished lunch - a nice healthy salad - when the packet came. I think the point of eating it with or before food is so you feel full and don't eat so much. But as my salad was carefully weighed out and I ate it all, I figured if I take it now, it will fill me up so I don't feel like snacking during the afternoon.

So I made up a glass of peach squash with water and sprinkled it in.

I'm not sure "water-soluble" is correct. It all kind of collected in the bottom in a gooey mess rather than mixing evenly with the water. It certainly absorbed the water but some of it stuck to the sides and bottom so when I had finished it I had to swish more water round in the glass and drink that to get as much of it as I could.

I'll have to experiment how best to take it.

I am very excited. I'm fine with weighing out and calorie counting my meals. I don't struggle with that at all. What I struggle with is snacking and feeling hungry between meals and in the evening. So if I can feel comfortably full on my normal meals, or even make my normal meals a little less without suffering, then this should be a breeze.

superchick36
01-03-2014, 06:29 PM
Do you get bloated after taking it? I am interested in trying it, but I don't want to walk around bloated.
Thanks!

Robsia
01-04-2014, 05:44 AM
Day 3: With Glucomannan

Weight loss: 3.4 lb!!

That's another 1.6 lb gone overnight!! Water? Possibly. Coincidence? Possibly. But I don't care - I'm happy! It'll probably stay the same for a week now and depress me.

Calories: 1294.
Friday night is pizza night in our house. Pre-weight loss I would normally have half a large pizza (900 cals) plus garlic dough balls (600 cals). Yeah, I know - that's why i was overweight. We still had pizza tonight but this time I only had 1/3 of a large pizza, which is only 600 cals. I took my glucomannan an hour beforehand. When I had finished my two slices, which I enjoyed, I sat and watched everyone else finishing off theirs and I must confess, I could have eaten another slice. But it's hard to distinguish between wanting food because you're hungry, and wanting food just because it tastes nice. I didn't feel hungry., In fact, I didn't really feel hungry even before I had it. but isn't that the problem with us chubbies? We eat even when we don't feel hungry. That's the habit we have to break. If I was really determined to overeat, I don't think the glucomannan would make any difference at all.

My daughter left a slice of her pizza, and I didn't eat it - I put it in the bin and put washing up liquid on it.

So, for the rest of the evening I was curious to see how I would feel. I had a vague urge to snack, but again that's just the habit, like when smokers feel the need for something in their hands. But, most importantly, no growly tummy!! And I was particularly watching out for that.

Exercise: 4.25 miles
Did 2.39 miles walking the dog, but I didn't do the C25K week this time. Partly because I didn't have time and partly because I had a busy day today and I knew I'd be doing a lot of walking anyway. I went grocery shopping and to a couple of other shops and did a pile of ironing which involves stepping from the board to the individual piles, to the pile to be ironing, over and over again. I watched my Star Trek during that instead. Pedometer says I still managed 11,000 steps, which is still over my target of 10K so I am happy.

superchick36 - I haven't noticed any bloating yet. I did feel a bit porky after tea, but the jeans I was wearing were new in the sale and were a bit tight when I bought them, and still are a bit tight so I put it down to that. But it's early days yet - I'll keep an eye out for any bloating.

Robsia
01-05-2014, 05:59 AM
Day 4: With Glucomannan

Weight loss: 3.4 lb

0 gone overnight - meh. But at least it didn't go up.

Calories: 1152
My partner came round for tea yesterday and we had fajitas. Well, my own version of non-spicy fajitas anyway, which is a tortilla, lettuce, chicken dippers (Bird's Eye so I know they're pure chicken breast) and mild salsa sauce. Other people can put whatever they want - he likes tomato and cucumber on his, but my girls have them with ketchup - lol. Normally I would have two but last night I only had one, so it was only 323 calories so my cals are way down.

Then he sat and ate quavers and sweeties while we watched Here Comes the Boom. I had calories left so I indulged and had a packet of quavers too, then he fed me every other sweetie while he ate his way through two packets. Why I didn't say no, I don't know. But they are only tiny snack-sized packets so when I weighed a whole packet this morning, I had only eaten 30g which is about 100 cals, which I had to spare. But I didn't need 30g of pure sugar and I didn't really want it.

No growly tummy again :)

Exercise: 3.42 miles
Did 2.42 miles walking the dog again, but I didn't do the C25K week again - too busy and also my 6-year-old daughter and I have just finished reading The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, so I said we could watch the film this afternoon, which we did. Pedometer says 8,052 steps, below my daily target, but my average is still over 10,000 so I guess I can have a lazy day every now and again if I stick with it the rest of the week.

Robsia
01-06-2014, 08:49 AM
Day 5: With Glucomannan

Weight loss: 3.4 lb

0 gone overnight again.

Calories: 1606 (that's probably why)
Well, I had half a packet of fresh pasta in the fridge which needed eating up, and with sauce that came to 727. I probably would have been okay if it hadn't been for the 2 packets of quavers I had later. I don't know why I had them. I didn't want them. But it makes up for the lo-cal day yesterday.

No growly tummy again

Exercise: 4.85 miles
Only did 1.8 miles walking the dog today. I had to take my little girl with me as my eldest had gone to a friend's house. She can't walk as far as I can so we do a shorter walk. But I did my C25K. Pedometer says 11,428 steps, which is good.

I would say that so far, the GM is doing what it says. I'm not really hungry most of the day, although I am ready for my dinner when it comes. I need to get out of the evening snacking habit. And it really is a habit. I don't feel hungry, and I know I don't need it. Today was the first day back to normal routine - early start as the kids were back at school - well one of them anyway. I have been taking the Xmas decorations down all morning and when it came to lunchtime I hardly noticed. Normally I get hungry niggles starting about 10.30 - but today I was fine. So I do think it is working. Just need to get those numbers moving down.

Side-effects: When I was making dinner last night, I got a niggly pain around my waistline, round the front and the sides. it wasn't very bad, just enough to make me go, "Ooh, that hurts." When I was reading the studies, it did say that some people had intermittent gastric pain, but that it settled after a few days. So I'll keep an eye on it.

superchick36
01-07-2014, 10:08 AM
I read the same thing about the gastric/stomach pain and or slight discomfort. I purchased a bottle of glucomannan pills that I will try before lunch today. I heard that some people open the capsules and drink it like you would the powder.

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Robsia
01-07-2014, 02:18 PM
Day 6: With Glucomannan

Weight loss: 3.4 lb

0 gone overnight again. Grrr. It has to shift soon. I am expecting a drop tomorrow (fingers crossed). I will be happy with a weight loss of 2 lb a week from week 2 onwards but the first week is usually pretty good so I was hoping for more than I've got, especially with the GM.

Calories: 1184
I did all the right things yesterday and my average calories since the start are 1301, which is fine.

I haven't had a growly tummy in the evenings at all since I started taking it but I had one this morning for some reason.

Exercise: 5.83 miles
Dog walking, bedroom C25K. Pedometer says 13,725 steps, best yet.

I did an experiment today. I took a dose of GM and put it in a small glass of water as I usually take it, but instead of drinking it, I left it for a few minutes. I thought it might turn into a sort of syrupy texture as quite often there is a lot stuck to the sides of the glass and I have to sort of scrape it off with my finger which is why I use a small liqueur glass instead of a water glass, so I can reach the bottom with my finger. I thought perhaps it might be easier to take. Well, when I came back to it, it was solid!! It had turned into a sort of gelatinous pudding, and it tasted NASTY, bland and icky. But if it does that in your stomach I can see how it makes you feel full. So I just threw it away and took the dose normally. Also, no tummy pain today, which is good.

superchick36 - I read somewhere that taking it in capsule form isn't advised as there have been cases where the capsule split open in the oesophagus and caused the GM to swell within the oesophagus instead of the stomach, causing blockages. I always take it with a small glass of water, then wash it down with a large glass.

Bellamack
01-07-2014, 02:36 PM
Keep posting, I am reading :)

Robsia
01-07-2014, 03:19 PM
Bellamack - glad to know someone is reading my wafflings :)

superchick36 - did a little more research on the whole capsule thing, and I was wrong. It is the tablet form of GM that can stick to the oesophageal tissues and swell within the gullet, not the capsule form. From what I just read, the capsules are as safe as the powder, although you still need to wash it down with plenty of water. Sorry if I panicked you.

Munchy
01-07-2014, 03:28 PM
I know when I had the glucommannan based noodles, my stomach was in severe pain within 30 minutes and cleared out in an hour. That's why they call it "the broom." I also have a VERY sensitive stomach!

Glad to see it's working for you :)

JJ Canada
01-07-2014, 08:45 PM
I'm reading too!! I have some in my cupboard as well!

Robsia
01-08-2014, 05:30 AM
Day 7: With Glucomannan

Total weight loss: 3.6 lb
0.2 gone overnight. Yay - not a lot but at least it's moving.

Calories: 1254
It's quite odd - I still have the urge to snack, usually when I'm bored. But when I listen to my stomach it's not telling me I'm hungry. I feel comfortably full, not stuffed full pretty much all the time. I work from home and I'm at my computer a lot so it's too easy to want to snack. But I bought some little sugar free breath mints and I have one when I think about eating something. I guess I just need to keep busy then I won't think about snacking.

Exercise: 6.15 miles
Dog walking, bedroom C25K. Not sure where the rest came from. The girls are back at school so maybe the walk from the car park to school, and back again twice a day has bumped it up. It is a fair way from the car park to the school - about a five minute walk, so multiply that by 4 and you've probably got another mile so that's about right. Pedometer says 14,478 steps, best yet again.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Robsia
01-09-2014, 05:17 AM
Day 8: With Glucomannan

Total weight loss: 3.8 lb
0.2 gone overnight again. I'll take it!

Calories: 1305
I was doing so well yesterday then near bedtime I suddenly had an urge for some white bread. So I cut the crusts off and just scraped a bit of margarine on it. It's still 100 calories, but it stops the craving. I was still within my calories so I figure I can give in to the urges every now and again.

Exercise: 6.08 miles
Dog walking, bedroom C25K, school run. 14311 steps on the pedometer. I bumped the C25K up to week 2 today and extended it again for 45 minutes. So it's warm-up, then 10 intervals of 90 secs jogging and 2 mins walking, plus cool-down, instead of the usual 6. Considering I have a sedentary job and I'm sat at my desk all day when I'm working, I'm pleased by how much exercise I'm managing to get in. I have some work coming up which will take me out of the house for six weeks, but it's not desk work. So I'll still be able to walk the dog,although she'll have to make do with a shorter walk, but I doubt I'll have time for my C25K :( It'll be interesting to see what a difference it makes to my steps. Also I'll have to take a packed lunch instead of making a fresh salad at home.

Pattience
01-09-2014, 11:37 AM
Day 3 "My daughter left a slice of her pizza, and I didn't eat it - I put it in the bin and put washing up liquid on it."

I like that idea and quick thinking. I should do that. Sometimes i do just chuck things straight in the bin when i get disgusted. But ruining it like that is a good tip. And you know if you can't, that your resolve is wavering.

I think the glucomannan may be psyllium fibre. See if you can buy some from a supermarket or health food shop to compare. it goes all gluggy when mixed with water or juice. So you should be able to tell at that stage. Its a soluble fibre but my gp told me that some people find it constipating despite it being used for the opposite purpose.

Rapid weight loss in the beginning is water loss. We tend to eat less salt when we suddenly start eating better and less. The most salt you eat, the more water your body retains in the cells. But it is always nice to see it drop off so quickly though you need not be disappointed. Weight is size, whether its water or fat and its all weight, right? though fat is the worst of course.

Day 5: the gastric pain is not unexpected either. if you eat too much psyllium it can cause "tummy upset" and it will settle after you get used to this.

I think the danger if you keep on using it though is that you will disrupt your natural bowel function. You should discuss this product you are using with your gp in depth. If they don't know anything about it, ask them to research it or find another doctor or chemist who does. For the sake of your long term health, you should know more about what you are putting your body.

I used psyllium for a few years but have gone back to going without. I took because i had constipation resulting from a combination of my meds and a low veggie diet. I would take 1 dessertspoon a day. If you are taking much more than that you may be risking your healthy but get confirmation on this because i am not an expert. I am just going by what i vaguely remember my gp telling me one day some time ago.

Pattience
01-09-2014, 11:51 AM
When I got to the part about it going solid in the glass i am just about certain that this is psyllium fibre. You may find you can buy it a lot cheaper as psyllium fibre. Its also used in a product called metamucil which you may have heard of.

Anyway, I want to add a few other things.
1. don't get panicky about not losing weight the way you expect to. You are doing a lot of exercise and probably building quite a bit of muscle which you must know is heavier than fat. This would make sense if you just started doing your exercise very recently.

I'm your height and a weigh a bit more. I think you might find 1200 calories is not enough for the amount of exercise you are doing. Havce you run your plan through a calculator to find out what is a good number of calories for you?

don't be in a hurry to lose it fast. Its not sustainable after you lose a certain amount so its better in the long term to do it slowly after the first few kilograms. I know we all want it off fast but i've done many diets over my life and lost it and put it back on again over and over again. Been fit, got unfit etc.

I have a good exercise for you to try when you are stuck at home. Don't laugh but buddhist style prostrations are very very physically demanding and don't take as long as walking. Though they can be hard on your knees. So put a pillow on the floor. Don't ask me how i came to make this discovery about how strenuous these. If i remember correctly it takes about 20 minutes to 100 full body prostrations.

To do them:
Stand up straight
Bend down and get on your knees, all fours.
Then learn forward into a sort of push up but not a pushup. You are just going to lie face down on the floor. Do not rest there even when you need a rest. Get up straight away.
Back to standing position.
If you need to rest, do it in standing position.

A yoga matt might be good enough too.

don't over do them because you might cause yourself an injury. I know a monk who was doing them for four hours a day or four hundred i am not sure which. He had to do 111,111 for the year, i think. so he worked out how many he had to do a day and suffered the results.

I think i have gone quite enough for now. I hope something of that has been useful and thank you for sharing your experiment.

don't be disheartened by anything i've said. YOu've started now. You should keep going.

Also ask your boyfriend not to eat sweets in your company. Since its your house you could probably get away with a request/rule like that.

Goodluck

Pattience
01-09-2014, 12:03 PM
Sorry i did a bit of research myself just now and see that they are different products though there's a lot in common. Livestrong has a comparison article. I can't post links yet cause i'm still new here.

IN Australia the capsules are banned because of the risk of getting them stuck in your oesophagus. So don't risk those.

Robsia
01-10-2014, 03:15 AM
Thanks for your comments. GM is not the same thing as psyllium fibre, although they may have similar effects. Psyllium fibre is from the portions of the seeds of the plant Plantago ovata, (genus Plantago), a native of India and Pakistan.

Glucomannan is from the roots, or corm, of the konjac plant, Amorphophallus konjac.

Robsia
01-10-2014, 12:15 PM
Day 9: With Glucomannan

Total weight loss: 4.2 lb
0.4 gone overnight again. A bit better today, so that's 0.8 in three days. Now that the first week is gone, this is proper weight loss, so that's the equivalent of 1.86 in a week. Last time I lost weight (I keep all my records) I was losing an average of 1.15 a week eating the same as I am now, so it's a good start. I think I'll get a better comparison after four weeks. Last time, in the first four weeks I lost 11.8 lb. However, on the 10th day of my last weight loss attempt I received devastating news and I could barely eat for a week. That's not like me, usually under stress I eat more, not less, but this was different Anyway, not the healthiest way of losing weight, and I made up for it this winter.

Calories: 1184

Exercise: 6.23 miles
Dog walking, bedroom C25K, school run and a bit of shopping. 14662 steps on the pedometer. Best yet :)

No more physical side-effects, although I am noticing my tummy is growling mid-morning. I can't take the GM an hour before breakfast as I have my coffee and breakfast as soon as I get up, so I just take the GM first. Mind you, considering the whole point of taking it an hour before meals is to fill your stomach so that you don't eat as much during the meal, it's a bit pointless as my meals are not the problem. It's the snacking between meals that is the problem. So maybe I should try taking it an hour or so AFTER meals, to fill my tummy at the times when I want to snack.

Robsia
01-11-2014, 11:31 AM
Day 10: With Glucomannan

Total weight loss: 5.2 lb
Yay - dropped a whole pound overnight. Happy happy! So far, average weight loss is 3.64 a week. LOL - wish it could stay that way - I'd be at goal by 15th March! But while it's dropping off I'll take it.

Calories: 1332
Had a few calories left over last night and had the remains of a bottle of vodka left over from Christmas, so I mixed myself a couple of tall peach/vodka/lemonade cocktails while we watched Bad Grandpa (SO funny BTW). I didn't have much - three measures at the lost as I weigh it out and 25 ml = 25g - but I paid for it this morning - had a banging headache, but I've drunk more in the past and not felt a thing. Working theory is that, as I am eating less, the alcohol has a stronger effect. I wonder if there were ever any studied done about the effects of GM when taken with alcohol.

Exercise: 4.92 miles
Dog walking, school run and a bit of shopping. Didn't do the C25K as I was tired and I also didn't have time. It's probably a good idea to have a couple of days off anyway in a week as I find my big toes get sore. Still 11577 steps on the pedometer though, still above my target of 10K.

Robsia
01-13-2014, 02:05 PM
Day 11 and 12

Total weight loss: 5.2 lb
Not lost anything this weekend.

Calories: Sat: 1179 and Sun: too many
I had a BAAAD day yesterday.

It started well. I had a very late breakfast so I decided I would skip lunch as my parents were coming round and I was doing a roast chicken dinner.

But firstly, by the time I was preparing dinner, I felt like gnawing my fingers off I was so hungry and I found myself grabbing lumps of grated mozzarella out of the fridge as I prepared dinner.

Secondly. My mother has this habit of annoying me. Not intentionally but she just rubs me up the wrong way. I had a bottle of wine left over from Christmas so I decided to open it and have a glass as I was making dinner, to take to edge off her being, well, just her!

Thirdly. I CANNOT resist chicken skin. Nobody else likes it, so add that to the gnawing hunger and I found myself eating pretty much the entire chicken skin as I was carving the bird.

Then, a glass of wine turned into half a bottle, which turned into a bottle, then the nibble cravings kicked in. So, added to my planned calories, I had an entire bottle of sparkling white wine, far too much crispy roast chicken skin and nibbles on top. I've estimated 2000 calories, but it's probably more. I don't know.

Exercise: Sat: 3.45 Sun: 3.49
Dog walking, shopping and just knocking about. Didn't do the C25K as I've had some nasty hip/back pain over the last couple of days so my steps are down, 8213 yesterday and 8117 the day before. But my average is still over 10K - 11598, so that's good.

Robsia
01-13-2014, 02:17 PM
Out of curiosity, I was looking online about the effects of alcohol and GM. I found this, which seems to indicate a) that taking GM can stop you feeling as drunk and b) that it can help prevent a hangover.

http://www.alcolout.com/en/products.html

IME, neither of these claims is true. I felt just the same while drinking and I actually had a worse hangover the next day.

Robsia
01-15-2014, 08:57 AM
Well, it's been two weeks.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1361
Average daily miles: 4.84

I have decided now that I'm getting into it I'll just do a weekly report so you don't have to just read boring more of the same. If something interesting happens I'll post.

Week 2 wasn't great - I always tend to hit a lull on week 2, I cheat a bit, and the weight loss slows, and I cheat some more because I'm low about the weight loss slowing, and the exercise drops off (in this case I got a nasty back pain). I also might not have logged all my calories :o as there was a Christmas present bottle of Baileys in the fridge calling my name and I might have snuck a bit these last couple of nights. :hat:

What I did do, is for the last couple of days I have been having porridge for my lunch and, as well as having my GM beforehand. I also sprinkle a dose in the porridge, to fill me up even more.

Here's hoping Week 3 will be an improvement. I'm not going to let it beat me. I gave up last time after two weeks. I'm not going to do it this time! I will be thin by summer!!!

Steelslady
01-17-2014, 12:36 AM
I have decided now that I'm getting into it I'll just do a weekly report so you don't have to just read boring more of the same. If something interesting happens I'll post.



Boring?! I am LOVING your daily posts, and I am sure others are too, even though we are not posting! Unless it is a time constraint for you, please continue with your daily posts. I find them to be VERY helpful!

misspriss78
01-17-2014, 04:28 PM
Boring?! I am LOVING your daily posts, and I am sure others are too, even though we are not posting! Unless it is a time constraint for you, please continue with your daily posts. I find them to be VERY helpful!

I agree, the daily post were very inspiring.

I started back to counting calories around the 1st of January and despite a few setbacks im still going strong. I loved the daily updates.

Robsia
01-19-2014, 02:43 PM
Aw - thank you! Not sure I'll have time to post every day though - starting a new job on Monday, just for a few months, but things will be quite busy. Hopefully it will help my weight loss, not hinder it.

I have been doing something new this last week though.

I was eating salad for lunch which is very healthy but not very filling.

So I decided instead to make porridge. I use 1% milk and sweetener to keep the calories down, and I also put a dose of GM in there too, all mixed in. It is VERY filling and even if I have it as early as noon, it keeps me going till 6pm when we have tea. Whilst I do still get tummy rumbles in the morning, I never get them in the afternoon.

Robsia
01-22-2014, 07:50 AM
I'm sorry I haven't been able to make the daily posts. This new job is just SO time consuming. I work all night, sleep into the day, get up, walk the dog, prepare the stuff I have to do that night, get the kids from school, make tea for everyone, then I'm out again.

Mind you, last night was the longest night of the entire project, so I wanted to get it out of the way at the start. I left the house at 6.15pm and got home at 5am. The rest aren't too bad.

I tried Red Bull last night for the first time. I'd kept my Monday night shift fairly short because I'd been uop at 6.30 to get the girls to school. So on Monday night I was home by 2.30 am, but then I barely slept. I think I had about 3 hours proper sleep, so I knew I'd be tired last night. So I bought some sugar-free Red Bull and had two cans while I was working. It did seem to work, but then when I was driving home (1h 50 min drive) it wore off and I was so tired. I felt myself going and for the last 30 miles I was seriously worried. I was slapping my face trying to keep awake.

But I got some decent sleep this time anyway. Got home at 5.00am and set my alarm for midday, and slept right through, so I got seven hours. Eight would have been better but I have stuff to do this afternoon.

Anyway, check out the stats for Week 3 - I am so chuffed!

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

So something's working. I have only ever lot that much weight in a week right at the beginning of a diet, when it's mostly water and salt. Never three weeks into it.

Steelslady
01-26-2014, 10:14 PM
I'm sorry I haven't been able to make the daily posts. This new job is just SO time consuming. I work all night, sleep into the day, get up, walk the dog, prepare the stuff I have to do that night, get the kids from school, make tea for everyone, then I'm out again.

Mind you, last night was the longest night of the entire project, so I wanted to get it out of the way at the start. I left the house at 6.15pm and got home at 5am. The rest aren't too bad.

I tried Red Bull last night for the first time. I'd kept my Monday night shift fairly short because I'd been uop at 6.30 to get the girls to school. So on Monday night I was home by 2.30 am, but then I barely slept. I think I had about 3 hours proper sleep, so I knew I'd be tired last night. So I bought some sugar-free Red Bull and had two cans while I was working. It did seem to work, but then when I was driving home (1h 50 min drive) it wore off and I was so tired. I felt myself going and for the last 30 miles I was seriously worried. I was slapping my face trying to keep awake.

But I got some decent sleep this time anyway. Got home at 5.00am and set my alarm for midday, and slept right through, so I got seven hours. Eight would have been better but I have stuff to do this afternoon.

Anyway, check out the stats for Week 3 - I am so chuffed!

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

So something's working. I have only ever lot that much weight in a week right at the beginning of a diet, when it's mostly water and salt. Never three weeks into it.

Congratulations on your new job- I wish you nothing but success! Please, please, be very careful when driving home. I know all too well how exhausting working the overnight shift can be, and the lack of sleep is not healthy for anyone, trust me.

Also, congratulations on your weight loss- way to go!!!!!! :carrot: You are doing amazing!

thanks for the updates- I truly enjoy reading them and appreciate it when you post them. I truly can understand the lack of time to post daily. Just make sure you update us weekly as it sure is fun seeing the wonderful results your getting. :D

sweetnlow28
01-28-2014, 12:43 AM
I enjoyed reading all of your posts :) I tried something similar awhile back with agar powder, also called Kanten. The idea is the same. It gels in your stomach and makes you feel full. I can't say I noticed much of a difference, unfortunately. Right now, I just drink tea if I feel a little hungry and it's not time to eat yet. I try to spread my 1400 calories out but I still get a rumbling stomach now and then. It is nice to have something to take the edge off ;)

Robsia
01-29-2014, 06:19 AM
This week has been a better week work-wise. My shifts aren't so long and I'm getting some decent sleep. However, weight-wise, it hasn't been as blindingly amazing as last week. However, still quite respectable. I was stuck at 158 for five days, but these last two days it has finally dropped.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

Week 4
Weight lost - 12 lb (2.2 this week)
Average daily calories: 1112
Average daily miles: 5.8

So, 12 pounds in 4 weeks is an average of exactly 3 lb a week. If I keep this up I'll be at 130 by the end of March.

Robsia
02-05-2014, 08:23 AM
A very disappointing week. I have been so good all week, not cheated at all, but my weight loss, although it finally dropped this morning, was a miserable 0.6 lb for the entire week. Here's hoping for a better one next week.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

Week 4
Weight lost - 12 lb (2.2 this week)
Average daily calories: 1112
Average daily miles: 5.8

Week 5
Weight lost - 12.6 lb (0.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1219
Average daily miles: 4.9

Robsia
02-12-2014, 06:18 AM
It's been a funny week. I kept forgetting to talke the GM, especially in the morning before breakfast. Consequently I had a rumbly tummy on occasion. And I had the odd day (2 I think) where I just felt really nibbly and like I just wanted something else, even though I didn't feel hungry. I think that's a consequence of dieting - your body is still telling you to eat more because it knows you're not eating enough. But I still got an excellent result this week - 3.8 down!

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

Week 4
Weight lost - 12 lb (2.2 this week)
Average daily calories: 1112
Average daily miles: 5.8

Week 5
Weight lost - 12.6 lb (0.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1219
Average daily miles: 4.9

Week 6
Weight lost - 16.4 lb (3.8 this week)
Average daily calories: 1224
Average daily miles: 5.1

My average weight loss so far is 2.73 a week. That would put me at 130 on 9th April.

Robsia
02-19-2014, 10:12 AM
I was a bad girl this Valentine's weekend, and I can't blame it on my partner as he didn't buy me anything fattening - no chocolate or Baileys, because he knows I am on a diet. Instead he bought me some fab Star Trek swag and a lovely watch.

No, my downfall was all my own doing.

We sat and watched a film together on V-day night and I strongly suggested he get the chocs out. I only meant to have a few, but we all know what "I only meant" tends to turn into.

Then, on the day after, I suggested my small daughter and I bake Valentine's heart-shaped shortbread biscuits, complete with yummy pink icing and pink sprinkles. To be fair, I did share them - I only ended up having five of the 18 we made.

But then, I just felt SO nibbly all weekend - I couldn't stop myself from gobbling virtually everything in sight.

Result: On Monday morning I was up 3.8 lb!!!!

I know it's not 3.8 lb of fat - I didn't eat THAT much - but it's still disheartening. So it was back on the wagon.

As of this morning it has gone, but I'm back to 152 so I lost nothing this week, which was disappointing.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

Week 4
Weight lost - 12 lb (2.2 this week)
Average daily calories: 1112
Average daily miles: 5.8

Week 5
Weight lost - 12.6 lb (0.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1219
Average daily miles: 4.9

Week 6
Weight lost - 16.4 lb (3.8 this week)
Average daily calories: 1224
Average daily miles: 5.1

Week 7
Weight lost - 16.4 lb (0 this week)
Average daily calories: 1338
Average daily miles: 5.42

Robsia
02-26-2014, 06:00 AM
It's been such a rough couple of weeks, food-wise. I have felt so nibbly. Not physically hungry but psychologically just wanting food. I've tried to keep track of my calories but we are so good at lying to ourselves. It's also harder now that I'm not working nights. Before, I would get up at midday, have breakfast at lunchtime, lunch at dinner time, then go out to work for eight hours, being too busy either working in store or driving from job to job to even think about food. I lived off sugar free Red Bull to keep me awake and I wasn't even hungry. It was easy to only eat 800 calories in a day, and it was dropping off me, even though I was making up for it at weekends, keeping my average 1100-1200.

Now I'm back working from home and the kitchen is just right there, it's so tempting.

But I will get there. Ha a bit of a NSV today - got a pair of jeans and a top in the sale at Tesco in a UK size 10!!! So I am happy. And my normal jeans are feeling quite loose, more than a week ago so maybe I am due a whoosh. Hopefully I'll come back next week with a 3 pound loss to report.

My mum has bought herself some GM as well. She is diabetic and struggles with her weight. But from what I read GM is actually recommended for diabetics, so she got some. She was disheartened at first as she lost no weight in the first few days, but when I looked back, I didn't either. I had lost weight in the first couple of days before I got it, but then as soon as I started taking it, it stalled for about five days before kick-starting again. So I've told her to stick with it.

Stats:
Week 1
Weight lost - 3.6 lb
Average daily calories: 1294
Average daily miles: 5

Week 2
Weight lost - 5.2 lb (1.6 this week - cheat week this week, had Christmas bottle of Baileys)
Average daily calories: 1361 (not counting Bailey's)
Average daily miles: 4.84

Week 3
Weight lost - 9.8 lb (4.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1207
Average daily miles: 5.36

Week 4
Weight lost - 12 lb (2.2 this week)
Average daily calories: 1112
Average daily miles: 5.8

Week 5
Weight lost - 12.6 lb (0.6 this week)
Average daily calories: 1219
Average daily miles: 4.9

Week 6
Weight lost - 16.4 lb (3.8 this week)
Average daily calories: 1224
Average daily miles: 5.1

Week 7
Weight lost - 16.4 lb (0 this week)
Average daily calories: 1338
Average daily miles: 5.42

Week 8
Weight lost - 17.2 lb (0.8 this week)
Average daily calories: 1194
Average daily miles: 4.93

Robsia
03-17-2014, 06:37 AM
Okay - I am back with a fresh start.

I have had a rough couple of weeks and am back up to 156.

What I have discovered is that, although the GM does help you to stop feeling hungry, it doesn't help you to beat the psychological effect of dieting. you still feel deprived and you still crave the stuff you know you can't have , simply because you can't have it.

So when you go mad and eat loads of bad stuff - even if you don't feel hungry - guess what: you put weight on!!

And what was worse, I wasn't even taking the GM during these last two weeks, so I didn't even benefit from the stated side-effect that it prevented you from absorbing some of the calories even if you weren't restricting your diet.

I think the stuff needs to come with a label - Warning: willpower still required.

Anyway, I am still down 12 lb overall so it hasn't been a total waste of time. And today marks the start of Phase 2.

"I think I can, I think I can..."

Robsia
03-24-2014, 07:00 AM
Well, that's one way to crack a plateau - pig out for two weeks then get back on the horse. Managed to lose 5 lb since last Monday and I broke through the 152 I was stuck at. Long may it continue.

Funnily enough, I saw this article in the Daily Mail that suggested two weeks on and two weeks off is a better way to lose weight than dieting continuously.

Researcher Nuala Byrne followed the fortunes of 36 obese men as they tried to lose weight.

Half dieted continuously for 16 weeks, cutting their calories by a third. The others followed a pattern in which they dieted for a fortnight, then had two weeks off, then dieted again.

Although their programme lasted 30 weeks overall, just 16 weeks were spent dieting, the same as for the first group.

Those on the on-off diet lost more than two stone on average – 55 per cent more than the men who dieted non-stop, the International Congress on Obesity heard.

What is more, their extra weight loss couldn’t be explained away by their programme lasting longer, as they shed very little weight during the rest periods.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2586473/2-week-2-week-diet-best-way-lose-weight.html

I think also you can't totally pig out - you'd have to be a little bit careful. The commenters poo-poo it, but I think it makes sense.

Phase 2

Week 1
Weight lost - 5 lb (17.4 in total)
Average daily calories: 1181
Average daily miles: 4.3