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07-05-2003, 12:39 PM
Welcome one and all!!!! :wave:

In 1882 the first Labor Day was celebrated in recognition of the dedication and achievement of the American workers. Please join us (American or not! ;) ) to celebrate YOUR dedication and achievements!!!

What you can accomplish by September 1st??

Let's do it ladies!!!! :cb: :dance: :cb:

(aka :queen: Punkin o' Friday, your faithful servant...)

07-05-2003, 02:15 PM
8 weeks! We can do a lot in that time. I've been doing really well, until --- for some reason, on Wednesday, I was struck with severe, extreme anxiety and started stuffing carbs. Which went on more or less until yesterday. Today, I'm back in health mode and ready to do this thing.

I had been doing great, eating when I was hungry and not otherwise. Starting to see the difference. So easy to start obsessing over food/weight though. I QUIT! But I'm just going to have to remind myself a bit for a few days before I get used to it again. :yes:

Punkin, thanks for starting this off, and thanks for the encouraging words about sticking with it. We ARE awesome! Yay team!

07-05-2003, 05:36 PM
Although people frequently ask if we Canadians celebrate Labour Day, too, its origins actually began in Canada! Read this for more information:


Eight weeks. What will you be in eight weeks if you give your program your all? What will you be if you don't? The choice is ours, let's make the right one!

In eight weeks, I want to be:

proud of myself!

zadie k
07-05-2003, 06:45 PM
Nice to see the new thread. And a new thread is a new start after the past couple of days of not so good behaviour on my part.

My goal weight for Labor Day is 140. I also am going to drink enough water and keep working on writing everything down in my food journal. I am going to start doing more physical activity and, starting right after the bar, I am going to bike commute to work every day (unless it is very rainy). I am also going to start getting up early enough to meditate every morning for at least 20 minutes.

Ambitious? Yes. But eight weeks is a lot of time and I am going to stay motivated.

Oh, and I AM going to pass the bar exam!

07-05-2003, 07:16 PM
Hi everyone!

Thanks for starting this thread, Punkin. I agree- we are all awesome. Wildfire, i hadn't realized that the origins of Labor Day had begun in Canada. Those are good questions to ask. Let's see: where will I be in 8 weeks if I give my program my all?

-will weigh 4 lbs. (or more) less
-will have continued writing daily in my food journal
-will have kept up with daily exercise
-will have weighed weekly
-and have been more consistent with my water intake

Hi to all the Labor Day Losers! Take care.

07-05-2003, 09:17 PM
Hey girls!
I`m in with ya! I want to be 10lbs less, 143lbs:) Lets get busy and start working!

07-05-2003, 09:57 PM
Hi Jenn! Welcome! :wave:

07-05-2003, 10:05 PM
Hi Everybody! I'm in, and declaring my intention to drop at least 5 pounds. Also, to continue learning new things that will help me with staying fit: learning more about weight training, continuing belly-dance, and breaking a sweat EVERY day!

Welcome, Jenn!:D

Thanks, dear Punkin, for getting us started!:)

07-05-2003, 11:43 PM
Welcome, Jenn!

07-06-2003, 12:55 PM
Hey ladies! thanks for the welcome. We got 8 weeks of hard work, healthy eating and sweat. So I`m in for the ride, no doubt there will be tough times, but lets not let them get the best of us. Right now I am on the WW diet, and it has worked good to rid me of 15lbs, now I want the next 10lbs to go to. So good luck to you all. Let the ames begin.


07-06-2003, 06:37 PM
Welcome Jenn!

I'm in. And since it's eight weeks, I've decided to go for a whole whopping 4 four pound loss. And that's from what I weighed last Thursday as I don't want to know what I weigh today. That should take me to 203.6.

Fresh start card picked up and ready to go. Re-emphasizing water, pool workouts, moderation. And getting the head together in every way.

Punkin, I admire that gutsy Mom of yours more and more to take off on that trip.

Kaylets, hope that iceberg is submerging again. Miss your daily inspiration.

Wood Nymph - so glad to hear from you and know you've been doing well (forget the last few days - Fresh Start card to you too). Remember we are strong, vital and together! Off it comes, losers, off it comes!


07-06-2003, 07:55 PM
Hey girls!
Good luck to all of you, I belive we can all do it, and all have some success after the 8 weeks are done! I had a successful day 1, with 19 WW points and a 45 minute walk. So I am on my way to success. My goals for this week are increase my physical fitness, and create a fitness routine, drink 10 glasses of water a day, and to stop snacking between meals and stop night time eating. I truely believe with alot of willpower and hard work I can do it. My motto is 1lbs at a time/one day at a time, often I fail at diets because I get discourage went I achieve minimul results, so right now I am going to embrace the minute losses and be happy about them. Like anagram said "we are strong, vital, and together. off it comes girls off it comeS".
Good Luck

07-06-2003, 08:16 PM
Well, I'm back! :) Hope that's ok ... but I'm stayin' anyway!!! I promise to be brief, brief, brief in my posts, but I need you'se guys! I'll skip all the whiney reasons!

I REALLY need a Labor Day Challenge, too!!!! Slippin' back to the bad ol' whiney bingey slumpy days. Tried a 21-day calorie challenge and failed THREE times (maybe four, dunno, I forget). I'm pledging to STAY ON MY PROGRAM religiously until Labor Day and anteing up a modest weight goal of 158. Don't do BFL anymore but my program consists of straight calorie counting and going to the gym six days a week, which may have to change because of some work changes, but we'll see. Couldn't do it the 4th (working) and took the 5th off. I'm not getting back on that Demon Scale until next Sunday, possibly the Monday after

Hello, Jenn!!!! It is nice to meet you! :wave:

Also thanking Punkin for starting this thread!!!! :wave:

07-06-2003, 10:37 PM
Welcome back, Amarantha!!! :grouphug: No need to ask....you'll always be one of our family here!

Tomorrow is Fresh Start Monday, let's make it official and start this challenge off like the losers we are! :D

07-07-2003, 12:56 AM
Welcome back, Empress. Whining allowed but if you don't want to, that's great too.

And Wildfire, tonight I feel I am setting the night on fire. I'm usually an early folder but tonight I am feeling so good, I don't want to waste a minute of it sleeping. May regret it in the morning but am seizing the night as it were.

Had a great weekend with family get together. And then the princesses were here and that always fills my happiness cup.

Along with my weight loss goals I'm planning to work on a long "to do" list and get some things really accomplished on this eight week trek. Whence comes all this ambition? Darned if I know but I'm grateful and like to think it comes from healthy living. Flare of RA must have subsided because even with incoming storms tonight, I didn't feel badly.

Anyway I'm a ball of fire tonight and hope DH is wrong. While he is soundly asleep, I keep hearing one of his favorite sayings "The fire of the evening is the false alarm of the morning". Guess I'll have to disprove it. NO NEGATIVITY ALLOWED IN MY HOUSE.

To a fresh start Monday......Punkin, maybe I can be
:queen: of Monday as I seem to usually be up for them. Are your "kids" back yet?

07-07-2003, 01:16 AM
I want to be a Labor Day loser too! This is my first time posting here and I've been looking for a good challenge. I'm going to exercise regularly and be 12 lbs lighter by September 1!!

07-07-2003, 07:26 AM
Hello all!

Somehow, sleeping most of Friday away has knocked me off schedule! Didnt realize till today that I was never here yesterday!

About 7:30 am, DH and I started getting things ready for trash pickup this am and b/4 you knew it, we had shovels and pickaxes out trying to level the shed so the door would close. Then it just got too too hot to be out there.
Amazing how just going outside " to move a few things to the curb" had us out there almost 2hrs and covered w/ dirt and sweat.
Another example of how " a force in motion stays in motion".

Today's thought is: "Peace within makes beauty without." English Proverb.

Today's question is: "What's your favorite summer memory?"

Punkin, thanks for opening the Labor Day thread.

Anagram, thanks, I appreciate your thoughts.... and you are making me realize I should allow for "extra stress" -- thanks.

Welcome to all Newcomers! Its wonderful to have you here!
Cant' wait to get to hear more about you!

WSW- Hot enough for you?

EMPRESS!! Am so glad to see you !

Got to run-- take care all!

07-07-2003, 07:50 AM
Good Morning!

Just wanted to hop on and state my intention to eat well, etc. today. After this weekend's brownie orgy, I'm craving lots of veggies and salt! 'Fresh Start Monday', here I come!

My particular challenge this week: making snacks for the kids that'll be at my workplace for an art program all week. No Nibbling!

07-07-2003, 07:54 AM
Good Morning Ladies!!!

Had a great time at the beach. Dog tired of driving though! It's a long trip (at least 6 hours) one way.

Welcome to all new comers and old comer backers!! (We missed you!)

My goals for this challenge are to
-move more (get back to walking)
-feel better about myself
-Be at least 10lbs lighter before for my birthday (Sept 6). (preferably 15-20) but I'll stick with 10.
-find a program and STICK TO IT (even if it's just continuing to watch what I'm putting in my mouth)

Q of the day
My fondest summer memory was when I was little my dad used to take all of us to this park over by Regan National Aiport and watch the planes take off. We'd eat a picnic lunch and then lay back. It was fun to lay on the car hood and watch them go by. I always thought I could reach out and touch them. The park is closed now so you can't do that anymore. It's sad.

07-07-2003, 07:56 AM
Good Morning All... hmmmm... what shall we call ourselves? Firecrackers was good, but i'm not sure I care for Laborers :p

I've got to be productive today, but I wanted to pop in and state my daily plan. I'm going to report each day on how I did. And I'm going to do a 21 day challenge again, because I find it helpful.

Here's the plan:

* minimal sugar, flour, and processed food
* eat when hungry, not otherwise
* only eat seated at the table when alone
* 10 glasses of water a day
* exercise every day
* 7-9 veggies/fruits a day, trying for the nine
* Report every day

Welcome, chicklo & Jenn, and welcome back Empress!

Let's make this a great day!

zadie k
07-07-2003, 08:59 AM
So, weighed myself and I guess I am starting out this challenge a couple of pounds heavier than I expected. Up two pounds in one week. AARRGG. O well, I guess that is something for me to think about when I do not feel like writing down everything.

So, off to study.

07-07-2003, 10:24 AM
Mornin' Ladies...

Have been lurkin'. That has been all I've had time for...takin' a minute here to post. The weekend was gorgeous...but stinkin' hot here...a few thunder dunders on Friday p.m. but nothing really exciting after that.
Will think on long term goals and state later.
Only goals for today are to drink H2O and get back onto a sensible eating programme!!!


07-07-2003, 01:12 PM
Happy Monday, my dears!

Thanks to Punkinseed for the new thread. Boy, am I late getting on the wagon. Somebody hand me that straightjacket over there...:dizzy:

OK, I did get into somewhat of a habit of walking for the last goal thingy, though weekends are a major challenge. By Labor Day I want to be able to truthfully say that I did indeed make this a real habit that I can't live without.

We're moving to Seattle in two weeks. We'll be living in a much smaller apartment in the middle of downtown, so there's going to be some heavy adjustment, and I'm pretty sure that exercising every day in a new place will be a real, real challenge. Not to mention actually moving and finding work...:^:

Ramon and I won't be able to afford gym membership in Seattle for a while, so I'm trying to find a weight program I can do at home, like with rubber bands or something. I'd like that to be another goal for Labor Day, to have some sort of resistance program in place (even if it's just pushups and squats) by that day.

Going to have to think about an eating goal...

Warmest welcome to Jenn and Chicklo. These are some of the best ladies I've ever met. And I'm so glad to meet you, Empress! I signed on a month ago and the ladies here have nearly talked of no one else. It's so good to hear about you guys and what you're dealing with. I'm proud of what you're all doing and glad to be able to check in and get a dose of goddess-hood from all of you. Thanks for being a wonderful part of my life. Moving to the big city is scary for us, and I'm glad you guys are one thing that's going to stay with me no matter where I go.

07-07-2003, 02:05 PM
Wow!!! I had a bunch of reading to do this morning!

Ok, new challenge... what do I want to accomplish in the next 8 weeks??? I want to be in the 2-Oh-somethings. I don't care if it's 209 or 201, but just 2-Oh.... it's progress.

This morning I entered the 2-teens. Down 1.8 this week. I've got to get some fruit in the house though because the ice cream is looking tempting, especially since I'm looking for comfort food (feelin' a bit blue today...). So, grocery shopping after work to head off potential disaster!

:dance: Amarantha's back! :dance: As if you needed to ask.... pullleeeeze... :rolleyes: Thank you for your recent PM's, I was touched that you were still thinking about me n' Mums.

Arabella, your carb fest was just a final blow out - grab a fresh start card! I think your 21 day plan is an excellent idea!

Zadie, yes, you WILL pass the bar! :yes: then we'll have a virtual party for you (I'll bring the margarita mix!) :cb: I agree about writing things down. I'm amazed at how powerful journaling is at curbing excess foodage (is that a word?).

Eydie, I'm jealous... you went to a play? Got all cultured? Man... and here I sit at work in bare feet... I need somewhere I can go where I have to get dressed!

Frogger, your beach trip makes me homesick. I miss having San Francisco just 35 miles away - granted the beaches required wet suits to go in the water, but it was still a beach! :lol:

WSW, :wave: I hope you're feeling better!

Anagram, you most certainly can be the :queen: of Monday! No "kids" yet, they'll be home this afternoon. :dz: She "checked in" a couple times this weekend - I'm taking it as proof she appreciates being watched out for - and not annoyed by it.

:wave: Ceara, welcome back from lurkdom!

Cerise, isn't that the bestest thing about online friends? You don't miss them when you move! Be careful packing, remember to bend with your knees! ;)

Kaylets, love the holidays, hate how the extra time off and sleeping in screws up your schedule.... Hope you're bright eye'd and bushy tailed today!

Jenn and Chicklo - WELCOME!! :wave:

Well, no sleeping in for me this last weekend, I was everything-sitting for my galavanting Momma. Horses, dogs and cats to feed, and a greenhouse to alternately water and raid (lettuce, zucchini, snap peas and strawberries :T ). Like I said, feeling a bit blue this morning, but I think it's being tired and having far too much time on my hands this weekend to let my mind wander to places it ought not. :nono:
Plan of attack for today - Harry Potter therapy - read so much of #5 that I don't have time to stress about the upcoming week.


07-08-2003, 07:11 AM
Hello all!

How is everyone!~ Did I say" Welcome"- Chicklo?? Glad to have you on board.

Punkin, I can relate- Found myself w/ a bag ( small one) of M&M's at 9 am yesterday. Managed to stay on course after that slip but not without a struggle. I too was draggy and down, just did not want to be there!!

Dh and I had been looking at moving but realize that if the interest rates go back up, we could have a house we've paid too much for and can't sell for what we paid. We are going to explore refinancing for what our house is currently worth. We almost got carried away but reality hit.
Today's thought of the day:

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are, "
Theodore Roosevelt
Question of the day :

"What subjects do you avoid discussing with anyone?' -- Table Topics

Take care all!

07-08-2003, 07:30 AM
Good Morning All! (somehow, I can't get into saying "Good Morning Losers!") Day 1 went well. I followed all my criteria. I was lightish on the exercise -- chi qong and housework -- but I'd exercised big time AND spent all day everyday doing yardwork and such over the weekend, so I don't think that was such a bad thing. Today I'm doing a 3-mile walk, and then an hour-long tai chi class this evening.

Hmmmm.... subjects I avoid talking about .... I would have to say it's the very ones that I should be addressing :rolleyes: If I've got a real problem with some one, I rarely talk about it with them. I will try to find some sideways approach to talking about it, but almost never will I face it head-on. There's something for me to think about today.

Let's make this a great day, Lovelies!

07-08-2003, 07:56 AM
Good Morning All!! How is everyone today?

Not much new here, so just a fly by postie. Reading as I go along.

Congrates Punkin on your loss! Way to go :dancer:

Cerise: Remember it takes 2 full weeks to make a habit. (that's a long 14 days sister) But you can do it!!! I know that I sure need to get back into my walking routine. Let's keep eachother in check shall we?

Jenn and Chicklo- Welcome to our fam!

Everyone I didn't mention-Little High Little Low, Little Hey Little Ho!!! (OK I was watchin Stuart Little 2 last night! How corney is that?)

Have a WONDERFUL day everyone!


07-08-2003, 08:23 AM
Hi Folks I'm back again!

Well I would like once again to join your challenge. As far as setting a goal the only goal Im going to set is to stay on program and be down in weight by labour day. The reason I'm not going to state down by a certain amount is because each time I do that I seem to disappoint myself. I have missed each challenge by a small amount. I'm still stuggling for my 90lbs. I camr so close .6 to go and then had a busy social week so I went up 1.4 and then the next week down .4 so it has been a battle. A 2 months ago I stated I wanted to bwe at goal by labour day but I know that is to high an expectation now because I will only set myself up for disappointment. So instead I will work hard at chipping away at the pounds and be happy with what I lose by then.

So good luck to us all, we can do this, because we are willing and strong and we have each other for support.

Warriors all, onward and downward we will win this battle.

07-08-2003, 08:59 AM
Mornin' Ladies...
Hi to all the "new" faces and known faces!
Kept to my goals for yesterday...water and sensible eating...on to Day 2! Now I need to psych myself up for some exercise! Not today :(
Will just keep up with the plan from yesterday.....glad to hear all are doing well and that Mom is coping.
Gotta go play ball before it is murderous out there!


07-08-2003, 09:39 AM
Ahem, if you'se guys see a post from me with a strange character, it's because I have to post from the edit screen sometimes because the privacy software won't let me use the full posting screen, so now I'm typing but I can't see what everyone wrote, SO, I can't do individual replies right now, BUT do need to note that everyone here seems:


I shall obviously stop short at saying, "Hooray for labor!" :s:

My "March to Labor Day" diet programme travails are detailed in screechingly laborious detail on the journal. I'm counting off the days that I'm on this "MARCH" whether I do good and have the sweet AODC (Angel of Diet Compliance) accompanying me that day or the BAD (Bad Attitude Demon) :devil: Be it ever so humble, the march must go on!

Thanks be to all who welcomed the wandering :queen: back to the castle!!!! And welcome from queenie to all newcomers on this thread!!!! Hooray for LABOR DAY!!! Hooray for labor, erg, no! Hooray for lying on a couch and reading Harry Potter!

Ok, can't see the QODs, but remember them, sort of, so ... best summer day memory ... odd, but it's a hike I took up the mountain in the state park that's near me here ... heat was in the 115 range and I wasn't really prepared physically and had no business being out there and could have keeled over, but I had a wonderful feeling of accomplishment and sat in car afterward with ac on and drinking cold slimfast (horrible choice for heat recovery, but ...) from a cooler and watching people and thinking how fit I would be in the future ... things I don't really discuss with anyone ... actually, there's not much I won't discuss if the conditions are right !!!! :lol:

OK, LABORETTES, LET'S GO OUT THERE AND WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER! Or, words to that effect! Hooray, it's a new day, or as Anne of GG says, "It's a brand new day with no mistakes in it ... yet!" or words to that effect! Have a banana!!! :cb:

07-08-2003, 12:14 PM
Hey ladies, day three and going strong! I think this will be a successful eight weeks, or I am crossing my fingers for that! I have been really good when it comes to snacking and eating in the night time, it is truely unbelievable! When it comes to the exercise routine, my mom and I are trying to go for a walk every day, but my job actually requires alot of physical activity, so I really am not worrying about it right now. And I have been drinking alot of water so I have been working on my week`s goals. I guess I`ll know for sure on Monday`s weigh in.

07-08-2003, 01:59 PM
HellllOOOOO, lovely Losers!

Frogger, let's totally log on every day to be accountable to each other with our walking endeavor! You're the best. Thanks for offering your support. Walking's tough for me, since I still cramp up really bad in my shins and calves. I sort of limp along. My body's fighting this fitness thing right now, but we'll get in sync soon, her and I.

Topics I won't discuss: I have trouble confronting people, too. Especially since I'm never sure about whether I'm right or not. I've ignored my inner voice for so long, my inner compass, that it's hard to know what's right or wrong for me anymore. I also don't like to talk much about my childhood in Africa anymore. Too many painful memories, regrets. All the people I knew are dead from the wars over there. Anyway, it's a big can of worms to open in casual conversation and I'm tired of the platitudes I get fed, so I don't bring it up anymore.

I'm spending this week cleaning up various bits of the house in preparation for our Pack-O-Rama next week. Last night I deep-cleaned our bedroom. Tonight it's the bathrooms. I think my exercise tonight will be deep-scrubbing the shower.

Here's my eating goal: only eat when I feel hungry. This is a big one, isn't it? I mean, after a while you can't even TELL anymore if you're hungry or not. It could be hunger pangs or it could be an upset stomach from eating too much...fill in the blank. I'm gonna retrain myself for Labor Day!

Love to you all, glad to meetcha, Empress and Dollar.

Is your Mom home yet, Punkin?

07-08-2003, 02:58 PM
Oh, yeah.

I thought up this quote for myself, "Be the person you wish you were." I'm sure other people have published it...I was frustrated with myself yesterday about my lack of discipline in SO many areas of my life, and I was thinking, "Well? BE the person you wish you were. Ask youself every minute if you're being that person." It has helped a bit, 24 hours later.


07-08-2003, 03:27 PM
Cerise-We will TOTALLY do that!!! I'll be walking mostly on my lunchour, about 30 minutes is my max walk time. (I get crampy too) But we both will post reminders and progress on the walking. Luck to you!!!!!:p

zadie k
07-08-2003, 06:27 PM
Now that I am on full time study I find that my computer time is very random. I am doing so-so about keeping on track, but I am writing everything down. I leave tomorow for Winnipeg so I will be away from computers till Sunday night or Monday morning. I am hoping that my food habits when I am away will be ok. I imagine that I can keep on track pretty well. Plus it will be a lot of walking arround so at least I will get the exercise I need.

Yesterday a friend of mine got into town. Our house is as usual a mess so I am a little embarased, but she took it in stride. We went on a walk around some of the neighborhoods lusting after some of the beautiful houses. I love my house, but if someone gave me an extra 500 square feet and it was a victorian or made of brick, well, I would not sneeze at it. There is an area that I want to live in right near downtown called Irvine Park that is full of houses like that. And it has a beautiful park with a fountain and a gazeebo. i suppose it is close enough that I can walk down there and take advantage of it.

QOD: religion and death

well, talk to y'all when i get back

07-08-2003, 10:51 PM
Hey everyone. I'm a newbie, so I hope I'm not crashing your party.

I'd love some group accountability, though, because I've been trying to convince myself to make a Labor Day goal, but I'm feeling rather uninspired about it.

As for my goals: I've only got about eleven pounds left to reach my goal weight. (I say "about" because I am PMSing right now and I refuse to step on the scale and take it seriously.) But now that I'm getting close to goal, I'm plateauing a little and eating much more, uh, freely. I am snacking as I type. Even though I'm not hungry. Ah, hello, old habits, how I've missed you.

Early in the summer I had it in my head that I might reach my goal by Labor Day. Well, I don't think that's going to happen. But I would love to get close.

Besides the scale, I want to exercise every day and get my snacking ways back under control.

07-09-2003, 07:03 AM
Hello all!

Welcome Jenn! Don't know what took me so long to see you come in! Great to have you here!
And Metta! Welcome to you too! Tell us some more about yourself!

Dollar!! Am so glad to see you!! Did the snow ever melt up there??

Please pass more "Fresh Start Cards"-- Another M & M day...
Today will be my "come back day!"

Its also Wonderful Me Wednesday.....and its been a long week since Monday hasnt it?? At least the work hours!!

Thought of the day :

"Humor is Mankind's greatest blessing."
--- Mark Twain.

Question of the day :

"Describe yourself in three words."
-- Table Topics

To everyone... Thanks for being here.... even when I'm not feeling myself, it means so much to know you are here waiting.

Here's to best choices--
And.... I'm healthier than I've been in years, and its really starting to show!

07-09-2003, 08:25 AM
A Fresh Start card for me too---AGAIN!:lol:

A Japanese proverb for us: Fall down 8 times, get up 9 times. Words to live by!

There's a trend of coming back later and telling how you did for the day. I'd like to get in on that, so I'll report in later.

Welcome, Metta!:)

07-09-2003, 08:26 AM
Hump Day!

Actually I do have a lot to do...will have to hump to get it done!

Yesterday was good...goals for today: increase my water now....I'm not drowning yet...from 1 liter to 1.5 L. Keep my eating low fat and portions human...not super-sized. What is with that super-sizing anyway? More bang for your buck? And here's a nail in your coffin? Or a french-fry...

You guys all sound like you are doing well....there are so many of you that I am going to have to write a cheat list and tape it to the monitor! :wave:


07-09-2003, 08:27 AM
You know, Ceara, that's not a bad idea!

07-09-2003, 08:50 AM
Good Morning Glories! :flow1:

I had a perfect day yesterday, all the water, 9 veggies/fruits, no sugar, white flour or processed foods. A 3-mile walk, an hour working in the garden (unintended, but it counts anyway, right :yes: ) and an hour tai chi class. Already back from the gym this morning, so that's another walk and circuit training.

Got my hair cut last night and the hairdresser had no idea what I was talking about, so it didn't turn out the way I wanted at all. Very short again. I wanted it short but with wisps around the edges. She didn't get the wisp concept. Oh well...

Found myself trying on t-shirt after t-shirt this morning and not wearing them because I looked too fat in them. Darn reality! How can I be surprised to be fat, at this stage in the game :rolleyes: I will just get myself as dolled up as possible and forget about it. Could I actually expect to look slender at this weight?

I find trying to get in 9 veggies/fruits is really working well. I become obsessed with that goal, which is not a bad thing to be obsessed with. Plus when I'm eating all those, I really can't eat that much of anything else. PLUS I forgot how clear-headed and energetic it makes me feel - partially cutting out bad carbs, too, though, I'm sure.

Oh, I apologize for the whine and the me-me-meness of this post. Maybe I can come back in later and address all you best and brightest of women!

Welcome, Metta, and great to see you back Dollar!

07-09-2003, 11:18 AM
Hmmm. Wasn't sure if I said "WELCOME" to Chicklo up there!!! I can't see all the posts, but Chicklo: :wave: Glad to meet you.

Also, welcome to Metta!!! :wave:

Punkin: Thanks for your words of welcome yesterday and the :dance: :dance:!!! Please keep us posted on your mom's continued progress.

Dollar!!! Wonderful to "see" you!!! :wave:

Arabella!!! I think you should go back to that shop and get those wisps ... a Wood Nymph should have wisps!

Eydie: :wave:

Kaylets, thanks for restocking the FRESH START cards! I can use a spare!!! :)

I'm on day four of my MARCH TO LABOR DAY!!! HOORAY!!! Did well on day three food/exercise wise, not so good career wise, whining and details in the journal, film at 11.

QOD: Me in three words: "WOMAN ON A MISSION!"

One component of my mission, as always is reaching-that-elusive-135-pounds-of-fantastically-fit-and-healthy-female-musculature-walking-around-masquerading-as-a-person-while-I'm-really-a-superhero-by-th-end-of-the-year goal.

"I'm a woman on a mission, I am, I am. I'm a woman on a mission and I'm not just goin' fishin' ... I'm a woman on a mission, I am."


To all mentioned and

07-09-2003, 11:18 AM
You're all so friendly. :)

And Metta! Welcome to you too! Tell us some more about yourself!

Okay, um, some stuff about me:

I'm a part-time graduate student and I run a computer consulting business. Right now I'm doing a fabulously boring contract job which affords me a lot of time to surf the internet, so I'll be here often.

When I'm home, I read, write, play video games and classical violin. I'm trying to add "cooking" and "jogging" to my list of actual hobbies. When I need to move my ***, I mainly do yoga, pilates, and aerobic videos. I hear Billy Blanks' voice in my nightmares. I hate exercising, but I try to do it in the morning before work to get it over with.

As for my diet, I'm vegetarian; I try not to eat sugar or refined carbohydrates, and I keep a food journal so that I can track my calories a bit. I'm addicted to Diet Coke and crackers, the second of which I can't even keep in my house because I will eat the box in one sitting. I'm hypothyroid, so I try to eat often to keep my metabolism going.

My daily goals are to work out, keep my caloric intake in a reasonable range, drink lots of water, and feel good about myself. The last one seems like a stupid goal, but it's actually the hardest one.

07-09-2003, 12:04 PM
Wonderful Wednesday!!!

I can't believe I didn't even have 5 minutes to get here to post yesterday! Amazingly busy... :crossed: for a quieter day today!

Q o' the day ~ me in three words?
Emotional (meaning no problem showing *any/all* emotions), loyal and dependable.

Yes, the "kids" made it home Monday night 'round 10pm. Gracie kitty doesn't look like she's grown at all (she went to CA with Mums) and I've decided she's a pygmy cat and she's never going to get bigger (not true but seems that way!).
My Mom's doing really good and has found "her food" - well, food*s* - basically anything high in fat. She's been all over butter (even though she can't taste it), french fries, cheese.... she made my stepfather stop twice on the way to CA for Taco Bell pintos n' cheese. :lol:

Eydie and Kaylets, Fresh Start cards comin' right up!

Cerise, I thought your summer story was very sweet... I also love your quote - it reminded me of a story I heard when I worked for WW about a man who put scotch tape over the numbers on his scale and wrote the weight he wanted to be on the tape. So every time he weighed himself, he was already where he wanted to be. Eventually his weight became the number on the tape.

Arabella, :bravo: on accomplishing all your daily goals! Yes, gardening counts - and I plan on raiding our greenhouse today myself! :cb:

Frogger, you go right ahead and be silly! Your "little hi, little ho" made me think of my silly saying (people look at me strange), from the Mutts cartoon (Mooch kitty), "Let's have a little look-see, a little look, a little see..." :lol:

Dollar, welcome back!!!!! :wave:

Zadie, have a wonderful trip, rest well and happy studying! :dizzy:

Ceara, :lol: "nail in your coffin, or a french fry". Isn't that too true! Since when was a serving of french fries a BUCKET???? (not that I haven't seen the bottom of a few buckets) but my goodness it is getting crazy!

Jenn, my weigh in day is Monday too. Here's to fingers crossed and good thoughts to banish our fluffies on the day o' the scale!

Metta, welcome welcome! The more the merrier! I've always thought that it's hard to get to your destination if you don't plan the journey! I hope we inspire you to set a couple goals for the next few weeks! I'm jealous of the classical violin playing! I got as far as playing "happy birthday"... :dz: And no, feeling good about yourself is never, ever a stupid goal. :no: I think a lot of us share that one.

Amarantha, woman on a mission, not just goin' fishin'.... :lol: Oooh, you crack me UP!!!!!

Finally had some wonderful news yesterday. My girlfriend's pathology for her breast lump came back, and it's benign. I don't think I ever mentioned it out of fear of my life starting to sound like an episode of freakin' General Hospital, but she had a grapefruit sized lump removed on 6/30. Benign, benign, benign :cb: one less person to have to worry about!!!! :dance:

Ok, this is enough of a novel, time to get some work done!


07-09-2003, 01:53 PM
Welcome to Metta!!!!!!:D Glad you came in.

Cerise-my walking cohort, did you move your hiney today? If not, Nike girl! (Just Do it) LOL 10 minutes. You can do it!!!!!!!!!
I only got in 10 myself. (Meetings) But I feel better about me today.

Hi to all! I'm getting excited about moving. Gotta go to the bank this evening and then I'm packing a box. That's my "moving challenge" at least one box a day. I just have odds and ends left right now. Extra linens, some nik naks, videos, etc.

Ok, I've gotta get to another meeting. Catch ya later!

07-09-2003, 02:19 PM
Cerise in da HOUSE.

Hey, ladies. God, I woke up wishing I were dead. I just hit the bottom of my coffee cup (I get 12oz. a day ONLY) and I suddenly feel GREAT:D !!! Anyone else know that feeling?

Ceara, I hear you on that cheat list idea. Actually, I've been doing it since the beginning of my time with this Faboo bunch. Speaking of super-size (confession ahead):o , I BLEW it last night. I ate an inordinate amount of Taco Time. Kept me up for a while, too. That's what I get. :ink: Hand me a fresh-start card, willya?

Eydie, THANK YOU for that Japanese proverb! **see above confession**. You made me feel a lot better, my friend.

Metta, welcome!:love: Another vegetarian!!! I gave up meat a year ago and am now fighting the "junk-food vegetarian" stigma. **see above confession**. Someone told me once, "You're the heaviest vegetarian I'VE ever met." Whooeee. I think they mistook me for a vegan. Pooters:mad: I'd like to add cooking and jogging to my "fun" list, too. Cooking's getting better. Nutrition's mattering a lot more to me now...Jogging will have to wait until my body stops trying to shut down when I walk! (Help me, Frogger, HEEEEEELP!)

QOD: Three words that describe me? "She means well." Damn. Wish those weren't my words, but it's true. :(

NO!! Be the person you wish you were!!!!!:soap:

Kaylets, tear your "Fresh Start" card in half and we'll share it. I have to say, though, that M&Ms don't come near the transgression I pulled yesterday **see above confession**. I mean, chocolate is MEDICINE. You were MEDICATING yourself, right? Very necessary. Deep-fried bean burritos are not medicinally viable, at least not to my ol' body. :nono:

Arabella, I swear, why is it that some days no clothes look good? No matter what I try on, no matter how cool the clothes are and how neato I looked in them yesterday, some days I look in the mirror and see this piggy-eyed stranger. You doll up, girl! Because it's all in your head. Your smile and walk and way with people is what folks see, not the stationary chick in the mirror with a horrified look on her face. I'm speaking from the heart, here. Hope it's true for me...Besides, you didn't sound whiny at all. Or me-me-me. I like hearing about your struggles. Gets my head out of my own...sandbox for a while. ;)

Punkin, congratulations to your Mom for finding pleasurable foods. I'll bet pleasure's a big part of healing. I think you did mention your friend's lump briefly at one time. I remember thinking, Oh, Dear God. Hasn't she had enough? That was around the time that you couldn't find Gracie, either. I think. Anyway, I'm so glad that it was benign! :dance:

OK, Frogger I did NOT walk yesterday, on top of my Taco Time binge ** see above confession**. Send me some walkin' vibes, Mama! Drat. Today's the DAY. You, too, right?

Big love to you all...


07-09-2003, 02:41 PM
welcome, chicklo and Metta! welcome back, amarantha and dollar! kaylets-it's definitely hot enough for me! punkin-thanks, i am feeling better. glad your friend's report was good! again today, hot, hot, hot!! have been sticking to my program, come **** or high water. hope all you guys are doing well. thinking of you all. take care.


07-09-2003, 04:01 PM
Hmmm. Feel loads better now than I did in the a.m. ... posted this on the journal but I was very upset about not getting a job that would have kept me in town and gotten me off the road, plus general everybody hates me, I can't lose weight, my career is over stuff. Absolutely determined that I couldn't do weights, but the trainer supersalesed me into doing a "light" workout just to feel better and I ended up signing up for five more weeks and feeling lots better! Exercise is the best medicine there is, saith :queen: !!!

07-09-2003, 06:46 PM
Afternoon all!
Empress, that reminded me of the song...nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I think I'll go eat worms....amusing where the mind goes....anyway, you've gotta do positive stuff when that happens and you DID! KUDOS on the GYM VISIT!!! You are the best!
I also did a positve thing...I went back to the gym...not been since February....shoulder was stiffish on some things but did do the circuit 3X. So that is good...am just over 1 liter of H2O and have .5 to go! Off to the WC!

07-09-2003, 07:29 PM
So many posts! I don't know where to start....

Jenn, you're doing great!

Cerise, coffee is a magical elixer indeed. I allow myself a cup a day [a BIG cup!;) ], and am never going to give it up! oooh, that rhymes!

Metta, Have I mentioned I love your name? Does it refer to the loving kindness meditation? I try to do that, really I do---fail miserably much of the time, but I try!:D
Monday night at the end of yoga class: everyone was nice and quiet during the final guided relaxation and I started thinking of a really funny dirty joke and almost exploded, I wanted to laugh so much---but I held it back somehow. Am I the only one who has such impure thoughts?:o

Arabella, my hairdresser never got the wisp thing either, so I just take it all the way down. Sounds like it might be time for you to take a little shopping expedition; there's some cool, drape-y, girl-y tops out there now!
Oh, and you are inspiring me to get back to 9 servings of fruit/veg a day again. I've been gone too long!

Amarantha, You're on a mission, you do have that determined look!

Punkinseed, I'm so happy that you got good news about your friend. And it sounds like Mom's digging her some creamy comfort foods now. Mmmm, pintos and cheese.

I'm feeling really good about my workout today. I walked 4 miles on the treadmill, did a 30 minute upper body thing, and 10 minutes of ab stuff. As far as food, there's still room for improvement--not too bad though. Tonight, I'll make a plan for tomorrow. it's always enlightening to see if the plan matches the reality!

Greetings, Frogger [still have that honeymoon glow?], Dollar, Zadie, Chicklo, wsw, Wildfire, Kaylets, and all!

07-09-2003, 09:15 PM
Hey girls, thanks for the words of encouragement, they really mean alot when your dieting.
Cerise: I live on coffee when I`m in school! Thank god for the summer cut back.
wsw: good to know your feeling good:)
Amarantha: exercise really do help how you feel...maybe thats why I am feeling a little down, I really got to have more exercise!
Ceara: tHE water drinking aint as easy as it seems! I`m trying to add more to my life style too!
Eydie: i admire your exercise routine, and I hope i can incorprate something like that in my life!
Metta: welcome:)
Everyone else, good luck, keep moving and keep strong! I find it so hard to keep under 22 points a day, it is terrible trying to pick out things for lunch and dinner when you are so hungrey! I am glade I am working though or I would always be eating! I really have to improve on the exercise part though, and I think I really will try to, this week has been very hetic with work and extra stuff. Anyways, I just look at it that in 8 weeks I will be happy, even if right now it is really hard. I am really going to have to watch it this weekend to start with the weekends are so hard, b/c there are always parties, and i have a date w/ marcel on sat. night. So I am either going to have to really cover my *** on Sat. or conserve points on Thursday and Friday. I`m going to keep smiling and keep going strong. Good luck to you all!
Good night.

07-09-2003, 09:24 PM
Just a drive-by :wave:. Busy, busy, busy.

Welcome to Metta!

Been horribly off program. No take out, fast-food, junk food...just way off track. Tomorrow will be Triumphant Thursday for me, 'cause I'm getting back on the wagon!

07-09-2003, 11:05 PM
Welcome, all newbies, and hi to all others.

Life has generally been running amok here the last couple of days. Will not whine. Will hardly mention that Monday I had the WORST, most senseless binge I've had in more than thirteen months. One of the stupid kind I thought I had left behind forever. And I have no clue why or whatever. I had had a good day, etc. Yesterday and today have been sheer hellers and I haven't binged. Just don't know what triggered such sheer stupidity. Hoping tomorrow will be better in general and that I'm able to start the long road to balancing out healthwise for all the damage I did Monday night.

I have the "wisp" problem too. Done right, I really love the look but I wouldn't have thought it was such a tough concept.

Tomorrow's weigh in and I'm not sure I can face it. I think I said that last week too but this will be worse. I am on my way back but still trying to figure out what possessed me. (Devil made me do it? Just let guard down? Dunno.)

07-10-2003, 03:29 AM
:balloons: LIFT! :) I found this quote from RavenToy in her journal. Dunno. It just hit home and kept me from eating the one donut I have in the house, so I borrowed it and pasted it in my journal and thought I'd share it here as well:

"I need to stop getting tired of 'dieting' and I need to remember WHY I'm trying to change my life." ~ RavenToy

'Nuff said.

:balloons: :balloons: :balloons: :balloons: :balloons:

07-10-2003, 07:34 AM
Hello all!
Today's thought is:
Yesterday is history,
Tomorrow is a mystery,
Today is a gift.
That's why it's called the 'Present'.

Today's question is:
"Is honesty always the best policy?"
--Table Topics


Sorry so short but need to get to work early.

Anagram- Plenty of fresh start cards and Monday was a bad day for me too ( Tuesday too!)

Empress-- Couldnt agree w/ you more and thanks--

Everyone-- We're doing the best we can and sometimes our best is just coming back here!

Take care!

07-10-2003, 09:15 AM
Good Morning Beauties!

Day 4, all systems GOGOGO! Whilst walking past a woodland trail this morning I had an impulse to go in for a run, so I added a 15-20 minute run to my walk. Good news: I can still do it! :banana: So good for weight loss, stress release, and just generally feeling like myself. I had a bad case of the blues yesterday, but am back in the game today.

Amarantha, so true about exercise being the best medicine. And I'd forgotten how much difference it makes to REALLY work up a sweat. If I weren't a Woodland Nymph, I would have called it a jog... but WNs do NOT jog, they merely run in a very casual manner :) Sadly, I cannot go back and get my wisps, because the hair is not long enough :eek:

Anagram, :grouphug: Don't you hate those binges that come out of nowhere! I find sometimes it's not the absolute worst days that can lead to a binge - if I'm really upset I can't eat. Frustrating when you can't even tell where the darn thing came from! Re: wisps - I think I'm going to have to find a photo to take with me next time...

Wildfire, how are things going with your daughter? Well, I hope. Kaylets, you're right. Keep coming back, ride it out, and eventually you'll feel more like yourself again!

Must run. Have a wonderful day, all!

07-10-2003, 10:48 AM
Also have to get to work early but determined to go run on treadmill first. I'm on Day 5, details in journal!!! :wave:

Arabella: When I'm on treadmill today, I shall strive to run like a wood nymph ... floating along very casually with wispy hair gently bobbing in the gym fan induced breeze as calypso music from enchanted headphones gently wends itself into my spirit ...

Anagram: Hope your weigh-in is all you wish it to be (but it's the courage to do the weigh-in consistently as a statement of your determination that makes you a real winner and every weigh-in a victory ... it's the journey that counts, not the numbers on Demon Scale, who HAS been known to fiddle with the data just to drive us crazy)!!!! :cb:

Kaylets: It is my firm belief that honesty is almost never the best policy!!! :)

Wildfire: I was just checking my calendar and there it was in black and white ... TRIUMPHANT THURSDAY!!!!! (Wildfire back on track!) ... what a coincidence!!!! Congratulations! Have some balloons ~ :balloons:

Jenn: You're doing great at keeping on your points!!! :cp: I hear you about how hard it is to relax enough to take time to exercise when you need to get a bunch of things done. Sometimes I just do a few minutes ... like walk out the door for five minutes and then walk back ... then maybe add a little more around noon and maybe a little more at night. Seemingly, it all adds up, so they tell me, and I don't get stressed by taking big chunks of time out of my day.

To all, mentioned or unmentioned, avanti!!! :wave:

07-10-2003, 10:51 AM
Mornin' All

Today has already started bad. hubby is sick and is staying home today. And I have just had a peanut butter cookie for breakfast. (Along with 2 strawberry pop tarts) AUGH Pass me a fresh start card..........

I'm currently looking for a new job as well. When we move I refuse to drive 2 hours to work in traffic everyday and 3-4 hours home in traffic everyday. If this company thinks for a moment for the peon pay they give me every week that I would even consider such a torture, they are :dizzy:

Sorry for the rant, it seems like one of those days........

07-10-2003, 04:09 PM
Must've been something in the air yesterday 'cuz I had my first binge in months yesterday too (mmmm, ice cream... :T ).

Granted, in my mind I think I've blown it out of proportion (which I think we all do to some extent) because after the fact, I think my binge was about 1 1/2 cups of ice cream. 9 points. Eaten after 20 minutes on the elliptical and I think I went over in my daily points by about 4.... :chin: I need to reevaluate my "binge" methinks and not beat myself up over it.... How 'bout you guys and yours??

Frogger, how exciting, moving!!!! I bet you can't wait to get in your new home. :dizzy:

Cerise, thank you for the Taco Time warning. We have both them and Taco Bell and I've never been to Taco Time. I shall continue to avoid that place like the plague since Mexican food is a weakness of mine. :devil:

Amarantha, remember dahling, when one opportunity passes, there very, very well may be a good reason - like another one coming??? Hang in there, I hope today's better. Love RavenToy's quote too!

Eydie, YOU, have impure thoughts????? :chin: now who was it that sent me all those Harry Potter fanfics????? Hmmmmm...... :lol:

:wave: WSW!

Jenn, I'm doing WW too and when I notice I'm screwing up lunch and dinner I plan them the day before, and write them down ahead of time (like after dinner the night before), so that way when you get home and are starving there's no "what can I have?", you just look at your journal and cook.
A lot of times too I'll do some pre-prepping for the next night's dinner while I'm making my current dinner (make 2 salads and throw one in the fridge, etc.). But then again, I'm told that super-organized part of my personality is a bit annoying, so nevermind.... :lol:

Wildfire, so how is your Triumphant Thursday?? Do we need to send you the wagon "seatbelt"? Don't let the straight jacket appearance, uh, scare you! :devil:

Anagram, I hope things are going better today.... :grouphug: everyone!!!

Arabella, you ran? That's SO cool! There's been times that my walks feel so good I feel like breaking into a jog... but I've never been so daring. Maybe I need a little Wood Nymph encouragement? :lol:

Q o' the day ~ is honesty the best policy? Yes, it's the best policy, but not always the smartest one. Telling a 1/2 truth to save someone's feelings, or to make a situation less volatile is better than being 100% honest and making a huge mess of it all.

Toodles everyone!

07-10-2003, 05:42 PM
Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well. Thanks again for the lovely welcome.

Cerise: I've heard the same stereotypes about vegetarians and weight, but I don't really understand where people get them from. What do people think makes a body fat? Too much steak? Maybe that's the case for a few people, but I would guess that bread and pasta and candy are the primary villains for most of us. Along with a large dose of sitting on our asses.
There aren't a lot of diet plans for vegetarians out there... most of what people talk about is low-carb, Atkins-y stuff. I'm always trying to balance my carbs and protein better.

Eydie: yep, that's what my nickname refers to. I'm not sure that my name mirrors my actions all of the time either, but when people call me by it, it reminds me of the way I want to be.
And as for your impure thoughts, bursting into giggles is a perfectly Buddhist thing to do. As a yoga teacher of mine once said, the word enlightenment just means 'lightening up'.

You people talking about the hair thing? The wisp thing? What is that?
I need a haircut something awful, but I haven't decided what I'm going to do with it yet. (I lost some of my hair when my doctor put me on Synthroid, blech.) My hair has been the same - long and blunt - for so long that I don't really have any ideas.

Anyway, I'm doing well. I managed to get through PMS without doing any major damage to my diet. I haven't exercised yet today because it's freakin' pouring rain, but I am going to get around to it. Tomorrow is my weigh-in day, and I'm crossing my fingers for a good one.

ETA the question of the day: is honesty always best? Hm. I think honesty is always right, but it's not always the kindest thing to do. And I'd rather be kind than right.
I love debate, so I'll give an example that's close to home. One of my coworkers is morbidly obese and just started dieting. He's doing a great job: he says he's lost 25 pounds. He asked me the other day if I could tell. Now, truthfully? I couldn't tell. But I said that I could.
I know how important every bit of encouragement is. If I had said no, it could have been crushing to him. And I like him; I worry about his health and I want to see him keep going.
I thought about it later - was that the right thing to do? I don't know. Felt like it to me, though.

07-10-2003, 06:52 PM
Good Day All!

There must have been something in the air yesterday because I could have tied one on too....fortunately there isn't a lot of binge food here...so I compromised with mindless eating of grapes and Quaker oat bran squares. Had there been chocolate around here it would have been history!!!!!!!:lol:

Am doing fine today...have only .5 L under the belt...more to go!

QOD...toughie. I agree Metta...you did the right thing with your co-worker. Encouragement is always a good thing. Sometimes it is better to tint the truth a bit....only when it builds up someone else. There are ways of saying things that blunt the harshness of reality, but they are hard to come up with on the spur of that moment.

I've read the new Potter and someone is going to loan me the tapes...Jim Dale here I come! I can hardly wait!
:cp: :cloud9:

Anyway, am off...

Ceara :)

07-10-2003, 07:42 PM
Well, I had planned a nice long treadmill trek after work tonight, but DD called me at work to request that I schedule a dentist appointment ASAP for her...sore molar...so I may be delayed, but I will get on that treadmill tonight, even if it's 11:59pm! (Just could NOT get out of bed to work out this morning.)

You know what girls? Binges (big or small) are going to happen. Sometimes the best thing to do is let them happen and resolve to start fresh the next day. Get it out of your system, then GET GOING! No guilt about it, either. You can't change the past, but you can sculpt the future.

Metta, I think you did the right thing with the co-worker. He was looking for affirmation that his efforts are paying off. Even if you can't see the weight loss yet, he is healthier, even if only 25lbs lighter.

Amarantha, are you still doing the weights? I noticed somewhere that you said you aren't doing the BFL, but have you continued with the weights? Seeing any difference? I've taken the basic program and stuck with it, but have made some adjustments.

Arabella, DD is currently attending summer school (for the month of July) to try to get two credits. She only passed three out of eight for the year. Isn't that wonderful? (where's the sarcastic smilie?) She leaves for CB on August 3rd. I'm hoping that she'll do some serious growing up and get responsible while she's there. I know what you mean about having wisps. I have them! My hair is very short, with longer layers on top and wisps around the sides. You need to ask them to razor the sides so they will wisp. :yes:

We have a Chicklo? I missed her post. Welcome Chicklo! :wave:

Better get over to the dentist's office. Catch ya later!

07-10-2003, 11:52 PM
Ending Day 5, details on journal (1755, 30 min. treadmill/10 min recumbent bike at gym). Mooooooving on down the line to Day 6 of the March to Labor Day, YAY!!!

Wildfire: You betcha I'm doing weights!!! :strong: Just signed up for five more weeks with the personal trainer. I still do the BFL exercise rotation pattern (from the Success Journal), only I do lots more cardio ... 20 minutes 3x a week isn't enough for me.

I truly do believe the BFL program is a very good one, especially the eating clean and balancing carbs and proteins at every meal. I just think you need to be a saint to follow such a perfect diet.

Metta: That was so nice of you to lie and encourage your coworker ... and the only thing possibly you could have done!!! Good for you! I bet you made his day! :cp:

Punkin: Your binge was 1 1/2 cups of ice cream!? :) Consider it calcium ... I don't think you even need a no-guilt card for that! You are doing great and your attitude, as always, is so strong!

You are right about when one door closes, another opens. I am fine about the job thing today!!!

Cerise: Kudos on taking the positive step of returning to the gym!!! :strong:

Once again I can't remember all the posts and I can only see a few of them ... I don't have a "post reply" button on my screen ... can only do quick reply or edit because of the software thing.

Am brain dead and want to go lie down and read more of Harry. Keep getting interrupted and am only halfway through. I like this one so far!

Avanti!!!! No binges tonight!!!!

07-11-2003, 07:38 AM
Ok, this is it-- I have been one way or the other off program since July 3-- Holiday is OVER and I am going to stay OP one 15 minute chunk at a time today. Even if I have to go to bed early!!
Yesterday, I felt as though I could feel the fat cells expanding as chocolate was going in my mouth. ( It was the good stuff in case you were wondering)
But today, will fight the sugar cravings!!
Today's thought of the day is:
"Things do not change;
we do," Henry David Thoreau
Today's question is:
"Do you find antiques attractive?? Why?"
-- Table Topics

Take care all!

07-11-2003, 08:05 AM
Hi all!

Where's my good walking friend Cerise? Haven't seen you post that your movin and shakin girlie!!!

Weather is crappy here in N. VA. Foggy, drissly etc. so far this morning. Bleck...

Weighed in this morning and I'm up 2 lbs. I'll post a mini goal for this weekend: Lose at least 1 of those pesky sneak attack things. That means eating right, packing boxes and moving my fanny. Along with getting a haircut and my nails done of course...:devil:

Well Ladies, work becons, but I'll be checking in off and on today.


07-11-2003, 08:14 AM
Hi all!

Well I think I figured out what my problem was as far as being stuck with my wt loss. I got that 90lb number in my head and that is all I could think of. I don't think i was being as careful as I should have been with my foods, in a sense perhaps a little self sabbatoge because I was so disappointed in myself when I would weigh in because I just didn't get that 90. The first week I figured for sure I would hit it I went down .4 leaving me .6 to reach 90 I was so upset because I had started walking 5k a day and riding a bike *which by the way I hadn't done in 31 years* so I couldn't beleive I didn't make it. That was 4 weeks ago and I have been up and down and all around that silly number ever since. I even started having trouble going for my walk at 515 am.
So now I have changed my focus, I have managed to get my walk in all week and Im back to being right on track with my eating. This is far to important to me to be getting hung up on numbers. My number one focus now is to make sure Im getting in my walking because I feel so much better when I do, it is my time for myself. I still pick a goal so instead of focusing on the 90 I will focus on 95 and when I get to 92 I will look at 97 I think that way I will avoid the disappointments.

So onward and downward .

07-11-2003, 08:15 AM
Anagram, Sometimes I know why I binge, sometimes not. Still whenever it happens it's disturbing---feels so "old life", no room for it in the 'new and improved'! Wildfire's right, sometimes it just happens.

Arabella , you're doing SO well!

Wildfire, how was Triumphant Thursday?

Frogger, feeling better today, I hope?

Amarantha, I agree with you about the aerobic part of BFL. I'm used to moving; I can't live without it!

Punkinseed, HEE!:s:

Metta, I'm veg too, by the way.

Ceara, I just listened to new HP on audio. Jim Dale is splendid!!!! How does he do it?

Had a great day yesterday. Food part was great, Didn't get in as much of a workout as I wanted 'cause time closed in on me. But I got in 20 min. Of Pilates and 30 min. on the treadmill.

07-11-2003, 08:46 AM
Fly-by postie: I've got to get to work, but just wanted to pop in and say :hi: Couldn't BELIEVE all the posts since yesterday. I guess I was working all day and didn't get a chance to stop by.

If anyone happens across a good pic of someone with wisps, could you post the link? I'm determined that next time I'll get what I want. This hairdresser kept saying she knew what I meant and then lopping off the potential wisps :rolleyes:

Let's make this a great one. Love to all!

07-11-2003, 10:21 AM
I did my weekly weigh-in this morning, and I'm down a pound. Not a big loss, but anything to break my little plateau is cause for celebration in my book.

My workouts yesterday and today have been pretty meh, but at least I did something. I'm seriously jonesing for sugar this morning, too, but I'll survive.

Question of the day: yes, antiques are attractive. They seem classy. It's the nature of style: new stuff is good, old stuff is bad, but once it's old enough it comes back around to being good again.

07-11-2003, 11:30 AM
I'm also on the fly ... gotta be at photoshoot 52 miles away in 75 minutes!! :)

Congrats to Metta for one pound down!!!

Eydie: Yup, the aerobic part is the lifeblood of an exercise program for me. I like the weights, the pilates, the boxing, but just running is what I really crave ... not quite there yet, but I will be.

Gotta go! I'm on Day 6, details in journal!

QOD: I do like antiques, both for the pleasure they give me and as an adjunct to my lifelong passion for studying history. Also, my mom and I always collected them together and combed the countryside for them (before they had the internet one had to comb the countryside for stuff!! :lol:

07-11-2003, 12:51 PM
Ooooh. Coffee not working. :yawn:

I was up 'til two last night cleaning the house. My brother and sister are coming down for a wedding and are staying with us. Since they moved the visit up a day I stayed up late cleaning like a maniac. So did lovely Ramon. I'm such a lucky girl. :love:

Frogger, dang it! :mad: I haven't walked this week at all. Tonight I'm walking if it kills me (it may - see above complaints). Thanks for keeping on me, please don't give up. How're you doing?

God, Amarantha. Please tell me you weren't always this into exercise. Please tell me it was hard as **** at first but you got addicted to it through long, grinding effort and patience. Is any of this true, because I seem to equate exercise with torture and try my hardest not to do it. :shrug:

I'm so proud of you guys. You're all working towards something amazing.

Metta, thanks for the reassurance about fat veggies. That lady almost had me convinced. Eydie, I didn't know you were veg, too. How long, and how in the **** do you get in your servings of whole grains?

OK, have to drag my butt around the office now. Somebody give me a hug...


07-11-2003, 02:58 PM
:grouphug: to you Cerise!
I'm doing OK. Couldn't make it on a walk today. Maybe later. But girlie, I think your mad cleaning counts as moving the fanny big time!!!

07-11-2003, 03:00 PM
Happy, happy Friday!!!! :cb:

I'm SO looking forward to sleeping in tomorrow!!!! It's been a loooong week...

Had myself a little celebration yesterday - my Mom finally gave me the go-ahead to take a little time off so I'm heading to California in a couple weeks! :dance: Goin' to Bo-Beena's house for a short visit. Mom's been doing really good a couple weeks out from her chemo, so that's when I plan on making my getaway... :s:

Cerise, no icon for a slap, but here's your hug... :grouphug:

Metta, congrats on the loss!!! You're right, *any* loss is good! :yes:

Ceara, they had a story on Yahoo news about the guy who did the voices on the Harry Potter tapes. Sounds like quite a guy! Got a giggle on your binge too - grapes and oatmeal squares.... yea, it coulda' been worse!

Wildfire, I guess that's true. Binges will happen from time to time - the challenge is to keep them to an occassional happening, and not a weekly (or daily!) happening!

Amarantha, ok, I'll call it a calcium "treat".... :lol: :T

Kaylets, I'll send you some "stick with it" energy for each and every 15 minutes you need.... You can do it, and don't forget, you're STILL healthier than you've been in years!!

Frogger, packing and moving is great exercise! Have fun!

Dollar, I agree - setting a new goal when you're getting close to your old one is a great idea! I've done it, saying "I want to weigh ____ by ____" - then get there and never loose anything else! :dz: Gotta keep setting goals!!! :yes:

Eydie, you've just hit the nail on the head. I don't think it was so much the quantity of my "binge" as much as it was a reminder of something I thought I was "over" - it was an *old* behavior that I thought I was done with. Guess not. Like Wildfire said, I have to accept that they'll still happen from time to time - and that it doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to undo all my hard work because of one misstep. I just have to keep them to a single happening and not a month long free for all! :nono:

Arabella, I'm sorry to say I'm whisp impared. I have curly hair that wouldn't whisp if I begged it to...

Q o' the day~
Love antiques. I have a couple tables that belonged to my Grandmother and Great Grandmother. I love the simplicity, function and look of them. I often imagine what their lives were like when those pieces were brand new. Were the pieces expensive to them in their day and what did they look like brand new? I only know the history of a chair I have that was my Grandmother's - before she died she told me one of her "beaus" bought it for her. Can you imagine??? A boyfriend buying you *a* chair?? It's a nice chair, but it must've been some chair in those days!

Toodles all, have a great weekend!


07-11-2003, 03:39 PM
Punkin, I hear you on the wisp-challenged thing. I have this mop of long, curly hair. Rock star hair. Actually, I really love it (ohmygod, a woman who actually likes her hair the way it is!!!:fr: ) I just get the layers trimmed every so often and let it fly...

Coffee just kicked in. :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

Goal for the day: weigh in. Then take my 35-minute walk. Are you listening, Frogger? That's all I have to do today to feel like I'm the person I want to be. Thanks, lovelies, for the hugs. I needed it.

But now that the coffee's in my system I'm JUST FINE!!!!!! :twirly: :yikes: :bomb: :spin: Hope I don't have a heart attack. Hee, hee.

Status report manyana...

07-11-2003, 06:30 PM
Hey you bunch of "losers"....it's FRIDAY!!!!! :dancer: (and therefore Punkin is :queen: ) :D

I'm gettin a bike :cb: I'm gettin a bike :dance: My Schwinn Super Cruiser is on sale tomorrow, and hubby said when it went on sale again it was MINE! A birthday gift, so it's early. But I'm gettin a bike! :dancer: WHERE I'm gonna put it in this apartment is another thing!

Cerise, I used to have "rock star" hair...halfway down my back and permed to get the curls. That was a long time ago, though...I stopped fighting with my fine, straight as a board hair and found a good stylist that knows how to work with it. I still have moments when I long for long locks....but then I think about how frustrating it gets with my hair. Enjoy your natural curls! Many of us would kill for them. (Don't worry, you're not in any danger...I don't mean that literally. :D)

Punkin, nothing wrong with a little calcium supplementation every now and then. Calcium actually helps weight loss. :yes:

Metta, congrats on one pound banished forever! :cp:

Amarantha, I added more cardio, too. And abs to every weight workout, so every other day. I have to admit, I'm loving the weights, loving feeling strong and pumped. My favorites are the bench press (currently only 48lbs, but I'm working on it!) and the lat pulldowns. I've been doing an hour on the treadmill, 3 times a week. Other days if I feel like going for a walk or riding my soon-to-be bike, that's just bonus.

Oh, and Cerise, I don't know about Amarantha, but I HATED exercise. Then I bought a fancy treadmill that I can use at home, in my pyjamas if I feel like it. Don't have to go anywhere, look presentable, can do it whenever I can find time....and that made the difference for me. Then I bought a weight bench and weights....and started getting up at 4:45am to work out before I had to shower for work. There are days I have to haul my butt off the couch still, but most times I actually want to do it!

Kaylets, how did the day go? Perhaps this break was needed so you can get motivated for the next segment?

QOD: Antiques for me hold unlocked memories. They have survived through families' good times and bad times. Whether they are from my family or from someone else's, antiques have a past and represent it in a world of MDF and melamine. They were crafted with pride and care. I have a large antique armoire in my living room that somehow stands there as a sentry. It commands your attention. I also have an armless rocking chair that was my great-great grandmother's that was passed down through the family, once belonging to my twin great-aunts who were known as the village witches. Knowing that the women of my family sat and rocked in that chair ties my life to theirs. A past QOD asked what would be saved in a fire if you could only take one thing...for me it would be the rocking chair.

I'm cat-sitting for a friend for a week. I have to say I am amazed at the state of her apartment. There is junk everywhere....stuff that should be thrown out, broken, garbage kind of junk. I'm always so paranoid about anyone coming over when I have dishes in the sink or shoes by the front door....but holy crow that place needs to be shoveled out. Last time I looked after her cat I tidied up and did the dishes she left, took out her garbage, straightened up what I could without being invasive. This time it's even worse....I wonder does she think I'll clean it for her again? I have to spend some time there each day keeping her cat company, but it's so messy I can't sit in it. I actually think an intervention might be needed here...you know, I'll help you throw some garbage out because it's getting out of hand kind of thing. Geez, if I had someone coming in to my place to look after my cats it would be spotless before I left. I guess people have different standards. Makes me realize I probably don't have to be paranoid about my place. I don't think I should clean it up this time, though, other than taking out the garbage so it doesn't attract bugs or creat fruit flies. (Punkin, I know the Martha Stewart in you is freaking out just reading this! :lol: )

07-11-2003, 07:03 PM
Yup, started having palpitations and had to start breathing into a paper bag.... :lol: ;)

Have a great weekend everyone!


07-11-2003, 07:34 PM
Metta, congrats on losing the pound!:)

Cerise, yep--old timer vegetarian for 19 years! Click on my journal if you'd like to see some of my 'menus'; I keep my food journal there from time to time. I should start doing that again--helps me to be accountable!

Punkinseed, How's BoBeena? We haven't heard from her here in a while.

Wildfire, I know what you mean about being overwhelmed by clutter---in someone else's house, that is. That could never happen here, heaven forfend!

Anyone have outrageous plans this weekend?

07-11-2003, 10:42 PM
Ok, I think I'm recovered from the shock of my fall from the wagon. You hit the nail on the head, Eydie. It was so "old me", not new and improved. I know it was at least 13 months since I had done something that derelict. I fall all the time but usually it's something I at least like and I limit it to some degree. This was the old totally out of control binge.

But this awful week is over and I'm gaining control again. Today was good and I had three water workouts for the week. Well over goal on water today (something that was slowly creeping downward as was exercise - everything but calories). Most of the week's problems are corrected and the coffers are a good deal lighter because of them.

I did weigh yesterday and it was, as expected, awful. Today was two pounds down from yesterday and I'll weigh again tomorrow.

On the more pleasant side, at picnic last weekend, I had lots of notice of weight loss from people who don't see me often. Had first comment at pool today too. Also bought two new bathing suits today and it was the easiest that chore has been in years.

Enjoy antiques very much. My kitchen table is a round golden oak that belonged to my DGM and DGGM. I played under it as a child. Have their teapot as well. And in my living room a library table that was DGs and that I refinished. Covered with family photos. Other things as well but those three things are my faves. I enjoy things that others have used because I feel the connection to those people though I may never have known them.

Forgive the me=me post. I'm still catching up on my reading. Love it when the posts come flying in so fast I get behind.

Nothing special here this weekend except a concert (River City Brass Band) we plan to hear on Sunday. Car shopping has been taking up a lot of time. Hate it. Wish my current car could live forever.

07-12-2003, 08:07 AM
Hello all!

Found this in my email this morning and was just what I needed to find! Thanks Ceara!

Tess went to her bedroom and pulled a glass jelly jar from its
hiding place
in the closet. She poured all the change out on the floor and
counted it carefully.
Three times, even. The total had to be exactly perfect. No
chance here for
mistakes. Carefully placing the coins back in the jar and
twisting on the
cap, she slipped out the back door and made her way 6 blocks to
Drug Store with the big red Indian Chief sign above the door.

She waited patiently for the pharmacist to give her some
attention but he
was too busy at this moment.

Tess twisted her feet to make a scuffing noise.


She cleared her throat with the most disgusting sound she could

No good.

Finally she took a quarter from her jar and banged it on the
glass counter.
That did it!

"And what do you want?" the pharmacist asked in an annoyed tone

"I'm talking to my brother from Chicago whom I haven't seen in
ages," he
said without waiting for a reply to his question.

"Well, I want to talk to you about my brother," Tess answered
back in the
same annoyed tone. "He's really, really sick.. and I want to
buy a miracle."

"I beg your pardon?" said the pharmacist.

"His name is Andrew and he has something bad growing inside his
and my Daddy says only a miracle can save him now. So how much
does a
miracle cost?"

"We don't sell miracles here, little girl. I'm sorry but I
can't help you," the
pharmacist said, softening a little.

"Listen, I have the money to pay for it. If it isn't enough, I
will get the rest.
Just tell me how much it costs."

The pharmacist's brother was a well dressed man.
He stooped down and asked the little girl, "What kind of a
miracle does
your brother need?"

"I don't know," Tess replied with her eyes welling up. "I just
know he's
really sick and Mommy says he needs an operation. But my Daddy
can't pay for it, so I want to use my money".

"How much do you have?" asked the man from Chicago.

"One dollar and eleven cents," Tess answered barely audibly.
"And it's all
the Money I have, but I can get some more if I need to.

"Well, what a coincidence," smiled the man. "A dollar and
eleven cents-the
exact price of a miracle for little brothers."

He took her money in one hand and with the other hand he
grasped her
mitten and said "Take me to where you live. I want to see your
and meet your parents. Let's see if I have the kind of miracle
you need."

That well dressed man was Dr. Carlton Armstrong, a surgeon,
in neuro-surgery. The operation was completed without charge
and it
wasn't long until Andrew was home again and doing well.

Mom and Dad were happily talking about the chain of events that
had led
them to this place "That surgery," her Mom whispered. "was a
miracle. I wonder how much it would have cost?"

Tess smiled. Sheknew exactly how much a miracle cost...one
dollar and
eleven cents...... plus the faith of a little child!.

A miracle is not the suspension of natural law,but
the operation of a higher law...... (A TRUE STORY)

I know you'll keep the ball moving! Here it goes.
Throw it back tosomeone else who means something to you!

The Friendship Ball

A ball is a circle, no beginning, no end. It keeps us together
like our
Circle of Friends. But the treasure inside for you to see is
the treasure of
friendship you've granted to me. Today I pass the friendship
ball to you.
Pass it on to someone who is a friend to you.


When you are sad.....I will dry your tears.

When you are scared.....I will comfort your fears.

When you are worried.....I will give you hope.

When you are confused.....I will help you cope.

And when you are lost.....And can't see the light.

I shall be your beacon.....Shining ever so bright.

This is my oath.....I pledge till the end.

Why you may ask?.....Because you're my friend.

Thanks everyone for your support and kind words!
I did do better yesterday, not 100% but much better- and today my goal is to do better than yeseterday--
And thanks to you all, I have turned it around!

That is my miracle- the rediscovery of how much easier ANY journey is with the support of others.
As I've said before( but I really like this visual)
"The more of us at the oars the faster we can move this boat."
So today's question is:
" What miracle(s) have you experienced?"

Take care all! You really are the best!!

07-12-2003, 09:27 AM
The QOD is easy for me today though I've had many.

The biggest/latest is the fact that DH survived the kidney aneurysms the night of 12/2/02 and again that he was able to go off dialysis on 4/18/03. The doctors don't say "miracle" though one came close. They use words like "extraordinary" but I've watched it all and it's a miracle.

Glad you're feeling better and back on track, Kaylets. Your inspiration (and that of all of you) has meant so much to me on my journey that I need you here and "in the hug".

Must move it - busy day.

07-12-2003, 09:44 AM
As anyone who knows me can guess, my biggest miracle of my life [so far!] is being given a reprieve from a cancer diagnosis last year. In that time I learned to love my body fiercely. I swear I could write a book about it!

It's early yet, but I'm willing to bet that most of the responses to this ? will be about health issues. These tender sweet husks are our only vehicle and I'm inspired by this question to take good care of mine. Hope you all are too!;)

07-12-2003, 10:04 AM
YO!!! I'm feelin' GREAT today!!! First ever weekend that I CAN'T work because I left ALL my notes at a newsroom 62 miles away (deliberately) where I'm subbing for the editor this month. But I feel like EATING and need to keep clamp down on calories. Posted a weekend "foodwatch" thread (not to interfere with this one, just for extra support) and will journal every bite there from Saturday to Monday!!! CLAMPING DOWN ON THE EW (EVIL WEEKEND)!!! :cb:

Cerise, I did hate exercise as a kid, which is how I got into this mess in the first place, by establishing a lifestyle of not moving and stuffing food into my face to medicate my feelings. I started to LOVE exercise as an adult, even when I was heavy. Sometimes I don't feel like it, though, but I've never found it torture. I slack off a lot, though! :)

Metta: I love your avatar! Beautiful!

Wildfire: I love the weights as well, though, without the trainer, I tend to go lighter than I'm really capable of. My current favorite thing is the whatever-you-call-it chin up, dip pulley thing!!! It serves as traction for my crooked spine and my posture has really improved ... was afraid of it at first, but trainer kept insisting I do it and I now use it almost everyday. I put really heavy weight on it to make it very easy (the heavier the weight, the easier the exercise on this machine) and just concentrate on the full range of motion. I'm going to learn some boxing next week ... that'll be great.

Punkin: So glad to hear your mom's doing well and you're off on a getaway in a few weeks!!! Have a fantastic weekend sleeping in!!! :cb:


Sorry, was I shouting? :s: Anyhow, we need to treat the :devil: EW kindly and gently BUT KEEP AN EYE ON HIM!!!

Over and out!

Avanti, too!

07-12-2003, 04:26 PM
Hey, Weekend Ladies of Leisure.

Wildfire and Amarantha, thanks for the encouragement about my aversion to exercise. I'm glad to hear your "before and after" stories, and your posts about the exercise you're doing really inspire me.

I weighed in last night and found myself up 1/2 pound from 220.5. It's OK, though, for many reasons. 1. I hadn't weighed in for weeks, so at least I got my butt on the scale to see what's what. 2. I'm getting a clearer picture about what I'm trying to do - this isn't some "effort" I've launched that I'll just give up on due to lack of success. I'm going to keep plodding on, no quitting! It's so easy to say "This weight loss thing is over for now. I blew it." and just go back to my old ways. I'm not doing that, no matter how much ground I've lost. 3. I've discovered that it's so much easier to set goals one day at a time. My goals for yesterday were to weigh in and walk for 35 minutes and I did! THAT is success. I'm doing OK with this after all.

Whew. That was long and totally for my own benefit. Thanks for humoring me, darlings.

Frroooggger. I WAAAALLKED. Thanks for sticking with me.

Goals for today: eat only when hungry. Eat only until I'm satisfied. Get at least 4 servings of fruits/veggies in before bedtime.

Thank you for listening, my dears. I can't tell you how much it means to me.


07-12-2003, 06:59 PM
Wahoo! I'm enjoying my weekend foodwatch! Maybe that is my miracle ... that I'm not having a binge on my first weekend off and considering.

I actually didn't see the qod until just now. Will think about an answer ... can't really think of any personal miracles that have entered my life but I'm sure there must have been some.

Good job on getting your walk in, Cerise!!! :strong:

07-13-2003, 08:07 AM
Hello all!

DH and I left the house early yesterday morning and were busy all day. Even went out last night to a dinner theatre so I was amazed to see how much everyone enjoyed the "Miracle" post.
Its always wonderful to know others enjoyed something you think is wonderful too. What a great way to start the morning!

Thought of the day :

"Success is never a destination-- it's a journey."
--Satenig St. Marie
Question of the day :

"Should people be required to know how to change a tire in order to get a driver's license?"
--Table Topics

This morning's thought I found in a book of Meditations for Managing Stress by Weight Watchers. The meditation that goes with the quote really hit home to me and I thought was worth sharing. I hope you enjoy this one too!
"....You hit plateau's , your motivation comes and goes, unexpected situations get in your way. But you can always be successful.
Success can be defined in many ways. If you're on weight loss program, for example, ther are more ways to show success than how many pounds you have lost. Your are successful if you have learned how to handle frustrations and challenges better than before. Success today might simply mean showing up for a group support meeting; next week, success might mean dropping another two pounds. Changes in your behavior mean also means changes in your attitudes in your feelings. To keep yourself motivated, you need to reinforce these changes in a positive way.

Reevaluate your own success. An early success might be the day you asked for help or the day you decided to start excercising.....Write down each and every accomplishment, dropping down one ... size, jogging one mile, receiving a compliment from a coworker. It's good to be proud of your accomplishments. Recognizing your success is one way to stay enthusiastic and stay aware of your new positive behavior.

*****The more success you recognize in yourself, the more motivated you're going to be.***********"

From "Managing Stress" Weight Watchers.

I am so impressed with the idea of writing down the winning details of our journey-- AND why shouldn't we be proud of what it takes ?? If I can say, its not even 7am but I have done 5 good things for myself today already--
--- Read and found a wonderful thought--
--- Read a GREAT support thread--
-- Shared my morning thought--
---Got very motivated and uplifted---
-- Drank a bottle of water--
-- Ate an apple--

Its taking my affirmation of " I am healthier than I've been in years" to a whole new wonderful level!!

07-13-2003, 12:24 PM
Yes, I started on Monday, so this must be Day 7. A third of the way around Block 1 :cb: :cp: I feel SO much better. I really think it's getting rid of the wheat flour in my diet more than anything else. I actually have ENERGY, which I have found to be very useful :yes: Friday night, after the usual movie and treat-type dinner (nachos in this case) and a couple of drinks, I found I was still clear-headed and energetic. I started cleaning my stove, organizing my pots and pans cupboards. Several hours later (this might give you some indication of how dirty my stove was :o ) I was finally ready to go to bed. And this was after having gotten up at 5:30 in the morning, run for the first time in ages, too. Ok, I know that I can't continue on that way, but it's so great to actually feel like doing things instead of having to push myself!

This morning we went for a 6-mile walk. This aft I'm going to strip the wax off the kitchen and bathroom floors (the former owners of the house apparently made a practice of waxing dirt into the floor - ICK!) and putting down fresh wax after I get down to clean floor.

I love a clean house, and I feel like this place hasn't really been clean since we bought it. How great that I have the energy to do it now. We're having a big party next weekend for my :rolleyes: 48th birthday :cb: :cb: Mixed emotions here - yay for the party, not so keen on the 48 thing...

DH agreed to do a public poetry reading on the actual night of my birthday, and then was so contrite when he realized what he'd done that he asked me what I wanted to do to celebrate. A party, I said. How big, he asked. BIG, I answered. FUN! Since he's a man, I do have to clean and do some cooking and arranging myself, but what the hey... I get to have a big party. YAY!

Gotta go visit with DH. He beckons... I'm going to post this so I don't somehow lose it, and come back and address the best and most beautiful of losers....

07-13-2003, 12:54 PM
Yo!!! Yo!!! Yo!!! AND Yo! :dance: Thanks to the EFWC (Emergency Foodwatch Coalition), I did not eat myself into oblivion yesterday and Angel Scale rewarded me FINALLY with a :dance: down!!! Happiness abounds!

Arabella: I am in housecleaning mode also ... keep telling myself it DOES burn calories, it does, it does, it does!!! :) Congrats on your Day 7!!!

Kaylets: Every meditation that you post is always so appreciated!!! Thanks for all you do!! :wave:

QOD: I don't think I'd ever have gotten a driver's license if one had to change a tire, so guess my answer is no, but I think it'd be a good idea to require it as part of driver's ed in the schools.

This is a horrible and old-fashioned, non-goddess-like, nonempowering attitude, but in all honesty, my idea of changing a tire is to wait by the side of the road until someone comes along who can do this ... or if in town, to call the auto club and read a book until they turn up.


07-14-2003, 12:04 AM
Good day here today - all around. Watered, walked, wound up with acceptable calories. They should all be so good!

07-14-2003, 06:41 AM
Good morning, chicks! Tried to post last night, but had problems with the site. Probably the result of the changes that are now here.

I got my bike yesterday! Boy, is she a beaut! Sparkly red and silver beach cruiser....shiny fenders, white wall tires, the whole deal...even bought a basket and a headlight/tail light. It wouldn't fit in the car to get it home, so I rode it from Canadian Tire! DH drove the car, and every few blocks I'd find him waiting for me on a side street. I think he thought I wouldn't make it! :lol: He told me last night I looked hilarious...big silly grin and my hair all blown back. I haven't been on a bike (other than stationary at the gym) in about 13 years. They're right...you never forget how! DD is suitably horrified that not only am I driving around a bike that looks like it's straight out of the 50's, but I have a BASKET on the front! I went out twice after my initial ride home. I love it...I feel like I'm 10 again! Now I just need one of those big bugle horns....:eek:

Yes, it is only 5:36am as I type this and I've already finished my upper body workout. Yes, I am insane. :dizzy:

Off to pack lunch, then hit the shower. Have a great day, all! :wave:

07-14-2003, 07:31 AM
But such fun insanity, Wildfire! Sounds like you're really enjoying your birthday gift. And it's DD's JOB to be horrified, after all. And yours to keep astounding her with what a decrepit old Mom you aren't.

congratulations, Empress, both on your loss and on your successful weekend challenge. Huzzah and downward!

And congrats to you, Wood Nymph on your energy and generally improved health. BD party sounds like lots of fun (albeit your required input). And 48 - you're a babe.

Catchup day here today - car in for inspection and lots of paperwork piling up. More car searching and lots of other odds/ends. Unfortunately also got email last night that 87 year old Mom is not doing well. RN sister is taking her to doctor today and am looking for report later. She's been amazing to go this long but sounds like her multiple health problems are overwhelming her.

Glad you're planning a getaway, Punkin. Need those sometimes esp after all the stress. Dollar, nice to see you checked in.

Cerise and Frogger, nice to see that little support thing going on the walking. wsw, hope you're feeling ok. Eydie, I'd say that was some miracle and some wake up moment to how much you can appreciate your bodily temple.

Metta, Bo Beena, Ceara and all unmentioned and all lurkers, HI on this Fresh Start Monday.

07-14-2003, 07:47 AM
Hello all!

Today's thought follows yesterday's theme -- I am still excited by the idea of counting all the small steps to goal in order to understand how many successes I am achieving each day.
Today's thought is:
"It is very important to define success for yourself."
--Cathleen Black
Today's question is:
"When was the last time you bragged about something? What was it?"
--Table Topics

Take care all--

PS- The bike sounds beautiful!!

Anagram- Hope things work out for Mom's Dr's visit. We are with you!

Really running late-- wish I could sit and visit....

07-14-2003, 07:59 AM
Good Morning LOOOOSER's!! (And a good morning it is!!)

Not only did I lose that pound that I mini goaled to lose this weekend, I lost 2 more on top of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cb: I made a conscious effort to lose that one pound. Nope, not going to eat that dessert, nope don't want the second helping. No bun needed for my burger. No diet soda needed, pass the ice tea w/ equal. I am now back down to 219 where I was for the wedding.

So I mini goal myself for this week to lose 2 lbs. I can do that in a week.

Cerise!! Mornin'! Are you walking today? I busted butt packing this weekend, so I did not walk, but obviosly I am using some hidden muscles, because I feel like I've been run over by a mack truck!

:wave: to everyone and have a good day!

07-14-2003, 08:38 AM
Well, I am back, although not as soon as I expected to be. I found that stripping the wax off the floor was even a bigger job than anticipated. But I did move the fridge and stove and freezer and cleaned under them. And got all the filthy old wax from along the counters and so on. Ran out of steam 3 and a half hours into it, plus it was time for dinner and movie (watched "Frida" which I thought was very good, but I wished I'd seen it on the big screen), so I'll have to finish another day. Oh welll....

'Tis Day 8 here. Yay for me! :cp: :cb: :cp: :cb: Just got back from the gym, and am meeting a couple of women in the park to do tai chi at 9. Tonight I'm going to an end-of-year potluck dinner for my writing group. No bread no dessert. No bread no dessert. No bread no dessert (don't want to get there and "forget.") Well, maybe strawberries... But no wheat flour. I have to remember that's got to be a very occasional aberration for me.

Wildfire, YAY! for your new bike! I love picturing you riding it with a big grin on your face, too :D That's one of the three alternate gifts I've suggested to DH and I think it's the one I'm getting :crossed: I think you'd also like one of my other choices, tho, a gift cert for Northern Reflections. My MIL always gives me money, so that's where that will go :yes: New pants that fit me properly :cb:

Anagram, I hope that the report on your mom is good. Our moms are our moms at whatever age, aren't they. My mom has just recently started to take her health in hand, which makes me very happy. Her health problems are all avoidable ones. She's 79, but her mom lived to be 100, so I really want her to get healthy. PS - thx for calling me a babe! I've recently realized that I've gotten to that point in life where doctors, newscasters, and so on look like they're about 12 to me. And I think, hmm... gotta be a contrast thing, right? My own mature visage vs. those fresh baby-like ones...

Amarantha, congrats on that fluffy one gone! We shall banish all those surplus fluffies eventually. They cannot win, because ... they are fluffy and we are not! Hope you had a lovely non-working weekend (what is so rare!) Re: tire changing - Well, you ARE the Empress, after all! :queen:

Kaylets, I loved the "miracle" post too, very touching! You share so many wonderful stories and thoughts with us. I expect even as I post this there might be another from you on, but ... QoD - I think I changed a tire at some point in my past. It was necessary, and I thought ... well, people can do this apparently, so I can too and I did it. Felt pretty empowered. Oh, that was a long time ago tho.

Cerise, love your attitude on the goals. It's through our behavior that we shall overcome, and setting and meeting goals for behavior is how we ensure success! :yes:

Eydie, I remember your scare and reprieve so well, and what a powerful experience that was for you. That was a miracle for all of us, I think, seeing that diagnosis lifted from our much-loved Eydie! And one of the biggest lessons from it was for us to see the miracles in every day. They're everywhere!

Punkin, I'm so thrilled that you're getting a break. And then a real get-away - you surely deserve it and I KNOW you're going to have a blast. Why, you ask? Because I know you have a talent for it :yes:

Frogger, FOUR pounds? Yay for you!!!!

To all Mentioned or Unmentioned: Let's make this a wonderful day! Here's to miracles!

07-14-2003, 08:44 AM
Wildfire, reading your post this AM made me smile. It's fun picturing you on your new bike and it really does sound beautiful--does it have that cool retro look? [and the basket is very practical!]

I work at a historical site and I have to do tours today for 200 school kids---tours in installments of 30 at a time.[Shudder....] I didn't sleep last night either---I'll be thrilled when this workday is over. I hope they're 'good' kids, and I hope I do a good job, sleep-deprived as I am.

Anybody have any particular 'challenges' this week they have to gear up for?

07-14-2003, 08:48 AM
Arabella, Tell us when your birthday is--don't be shy!

07-14-2003, 10:06 AM
Great loss, Frogger and great attitude. Will be thinking of you and that great move this weekend.

Oh, Arabella, these things always seem to take more time than allotted. But it's going to be "done" for a long time. I did this job once when bro and SIL were moving into a new place. Took it down to bare and put 2 or 3 coats of new wax on. Looked gorgeous to me but not sure they appreciated the whole day it took to do. Probably just thought I was slow. But I KNEW what I had accomplished and that's the reward.

QOD Catchup - Dad made changing a tire a condition of my learning to drive. Outcome - dh taught me to drive after we were married. No conditions.

Can't think of last time I bragged. For example, when people comment on my weight loss I say "things came together, like being able to get around better after knee replacements, DHs strict diet, medicine for thyroid condition, etc". All these things are true but I also have added lots of effort. Last time I really wanted to brag - when I got results from testing a few months ago (IQ, personality etc). I was very pleased with myself. So there's my brag. And of course, I just might be prone to bragging about my little granddaughters but I don't think I really do. Not as much as I'm tempted to anyway.

Challenges this week - well, dh has visit with nephrologist tomorrow and we usually eat out afterwards. Challenge is to control emotional eating after visit (good or bad news - either way it's an emotional eating time). Saturday we're travelling to a surprise BD party for an old friend. Fortunately it's being held in a restaurant. Food will be good I'm sure. But I seem to have a mite more control in restaurants than when all the food is home prepared. This guy's wife is a great cook and her cookies, etc have put many a pound on my hips.

But today's plan is in place, starting with my Monday morning Slimfast. Dinner's in the crockpot and I think I'll do well with my day. Wishing you all the same.

07-14-2003, 10:49 AM
Frogger and Amarantha, congratulations on having great weekends!

I didn't exactly. Saturday my eating was fine. I was ravenously hungry for some reason, but I managed to keep myself in check. Yesterday was pretty bad. In keeping with my resolution to cook more, I did a bunch of baking, including making my favorite cornbread recipe. I looove cornbread. And I planned to eat a couple of pieces and then store the rest in the freezer, but that didn't exactly happen. My boyfriend observed the amount I ate at lunch and later remarked, "I can't believe that a woman your size can eat that much in one sitting." So, um, it was pretty bad. Heh.

Fortunately I am feeling much more in control this morning, and the scale didn't move.

Question of the day: when was the last time I bragged? Uh, about two days ago. I made one of my weight-loss mini-goals on Saturday, and I promptly bragged to the next person who called my house. It was my mom, and I don't think she minded.

Anyway, here's to a good week for everyone! I'm back on track today... going to make myself go running when I get home from work.

07-14-2003, 11:07 AM
Hey ladies! I have been away from the computer for the past few days, but i`m back again, with all good news! I am down to 150lbs, so I am happy happy happy:)

Kaylets: small steps is really the key!

frogger: Congrats on the 4lbs! before you know it you`ll be where you want to be

Arabella: Congrats on the new pants!

Eydie: i know what your talking about when you say kids make u shudder, i work for a recreational program this summer, and trust me kids....

anagram: good luck on the challenges!
Metta: baking things is the worst, b/c u always feel u gotta be eating it!

Ok girls here`s to another week of hard work and determination!


07-14-2003, 12:34 PM
Mornin' all! :wave:

Pretty uneventful weekend. Got some planting done on Saturday and sponge-painted a wall in my front room. It turned out really nice and looks very, um, mature? It reminds me of something you see in a "nice place" (not that my house isn't nice, but you know??). I just can't stop looking at it! :lol:
Sunday bit. I woke up with a headache, popped a couple Excedrin and carried on. Waited to long to have lunch then got the shakies and the headache came back - I ate, and the feeling never left. I'm still not feeling quite right.... weird.

Eydie, Bo-Beena's fine, she's just been having more problems with her wrists (baaaad carple tunnel) and has been a busy bee.

Anagram, I'm glad your week from Hades has resolved itself and you're back on the wagon again (cue Gene Autry music). I think it's awesome that you bought bathing suits trouble free!!!! That's a NSV if I've ever heard of one! :yes:

Kaylets, your miracle post made me a bit weepy... very sweet. I love your idea of counting every small step. Reminds me of that saying, "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" - all those little steps DO add up!

Amarantha, I'm thrilled that you survived the EW. EW's should always be approached with caution, they're known for their sneaky evilness and if it weren't for the sleeping in aspect of their arrival, I'd banish them altogether! (Congrats on the loss too!!!!) :cb:

Cerise, I think you've hit on a huge point - accepting that time can not be an issue with regards to weight loss. I've always heard that the most successful people told themselves they'd keep going "as long as it takes" to get healthy. Good for you!!!!

Arabella, we'll just call it the 2nd anniversary of the 24th birthday... It's just a number dahling, celebrate the experienced, well lived and loved woman you are!

Metta, I don't blame you at'all.... Cooooornbreeeead.... :T

Wildfire, thanks for the visual of you on your new bike! :lol: Sounds like loads of fun, I should get the tires fixed on mine! (you'll have to get one of those thumb ringing bells to reeeally made DD cringe!)

Frogger, Congrats on the loss!!!! Movin' and loosin', that's you! :cb:

Jenn, Congrats to you too on your loss! You should be happy happy happy! :dance:

Me? Down 1.2 this week, so I've finally reached the 40 pounds GONE mark (40.6 to be exact). Feelin' good, feelin' fine, feel like another 60 or so to go! Much easier to wrap my brain around than having over 100 to loose! :cool:

Toodles for now, going to go nap under my desk.... :faint:


zadie k
07-14-2003, 12:53 PM
Well, after five long days away I am back. The folk fest was amazing. I loved the music. I also discovered that I am too old for the festival campground and should now graduate to the grownups table (aka the quiet campground). Aside from the constant drumming of the younguns it was not too bad in the feswtival campground except for the uniqely untallented singer/guitar player at the campsite next to us. Sigh.

I weighed in today. I did not gain or lose, for which I am thankful becuase I did a horrible job of keeping track of anything this weekend. I know chocolate covered frozen banana rolled in peanuts is not on the list of things I should be eating. O well. I did walk constantly though, which maybe burned off an eigth of that banana thing.

One of my cats is getting put on anti-anexity drugs. I am not kidding. Kitty prozac or something like that. He is just too worried and going grey early and is develop[ing litter box issues. Sigh.

I did a quick dash through all of the posts I missed. My goodness, everyone was so darn proliffic in their writing this past few days.

At any rate, now is the time at which all good people go to study.

07-14-2003, 02:43 PM
Good Monday, Señoras!!

Whew. Weekend over. Had a blast with my brother and SIL at their friend's wedding. My brother's part of this group of boys that have their little boisterous fishing/camping club that will never die, and to them I'm Nate's cool older sister who's kind of goofy but laughs really loudly (my only volume for laughter) at their jokes and always has a bed made for them if they need to crash. Anyway, we had a **** of a time together at the reception, esp. sniggering quietly in the back while ALL of the bridesmaids (6 of them!!!) got up and cried through 10-minute speeches. I ask you.

Frogger, yesterday was my day for walking but I didn't. Make sure I walk today AND tomorrow to make up for it, 'kay? Man, if you're working so hard that you feel like you've been hit by a truck, I-I-I-I think you're getting enough exercise. Don't you think so, ladies? Hmmm?

I think we're both moving this weekend, my dear. We're packing the U-Haul Friday and driving to Seattle on Saturday. Yipppeeee! Congrats on the weight loss! Wait, where's Frogger? She's gotten so svelte I can hardly see her! Frogger? Frogger! She's MEEEEELLLLLLTING!!!!!

Eydie, wow! I was amazed and glad to hear of your miracle. You are truly special to me and it chills me that you got that sort of news. Even though I didn't know you then. I feel fierce love for my body, too, though for a different reason. I posed nude fur 6 weeks (once a week for 3 hours at a time) for a sculpting class not long ago, and seeing little foot-high effigies of my body coming into existence was a powerful experience. Not to mention finding out that I can indeed take off my clothes in front of 15 artists. They LOVED sculpting me and it really changed me when I realized that artists found me beautiful. I highly recommend it to anyone. Just contact your local college art dept. Heavier models are hard to come by but highly, HIGHLY prized in the art community.

Amarantha, EEEWWWW! The wicked bad naughty weekend couldn't prevail over the Empress. You impress me, lady, you really do. Avanti!

Kaylets, you are healthier than you have been in years. You have one shiny soul, girl, I can see it from here. Thank you again and again for the energy you put into us!

Happy birthday, Arabella!! You're a wood nymph, ergo you're ageless. I think you are, my dear. I mean, you have given back to yourself such energy. That doesn't happen for any old human woman. That's magic, baby. Keep on flitting through your forests.

Wildfire, no time at all before you have those ultra-sexy biker's legs. Doesn't your DD realize that retro bikes are very cool right now? I'm still young enough to know what's cool. The hippest young 20-year-olds in Eugene, OR are riding bikes just like yours. Try wearing a neck scarf with the bike. Complete the image. One other thing: we women do NOT look goofy with our hair blowing back in the wind. We look like goddesses, models with our own permanent breeze slave. Wish I could have seen you...

Anagram, your Mom and Punkin's are in my prayers. I'm just now going through the first pangs of realization that my parents are aging. I finally realize what it's like to worry for their health, and I feel deeply for your concerns. Isn't it nice to have a medical person in your family? My brother is concluding med. school and is keeping a sharp eye on us. Makes me feel a lot better.

Metta, cornbread is GOOD for you! Imagine how you'd feel if you ate the same amount of Twinkies! It's Fresh Start Monday, your scale turned its head for you, so do a little "I didn't do any damage" dance! ****, I'll do it for you! Cooooorrrrrnbread. Somebody pass the maple syrup.

Punkin, have you ruled out the possibility that your paint job made you feel funny? Paint fumes cause headaches and nausea. Just a thought...

Punkin's lost 40 pounds!!!!!! What a number! You RULE, Mama! I'm gonna celebrate vicariously. You inspire me so much.

Goal for today: 1. Walk for 35 minutes. Stave off the shin/calve pain by stretching. I can do that!!

To my other friends whom I did not mention, you inspire me, too. See you tomorrow.


07-14-2003, 02:47 PM
Oh, yeah, one more thing to add to that record-setting, long post.

You remember how I was boo-hooing that I wouldn't be able to afford a gym in Seattle? My SIL is a high mucky-muck (and a personal trainer) at a local gym up there and can get Ramon and I free membership!! Is the Universe looking out for me or WHAT!?!

07-14-2003, 06:08 PM
Hello you lovely ladies :wave:

Just a quick one to say hello to all old and new members to the group!
I am almost recovered from a little injury I got over the 4th. The river, an innertube, lots of rock and me. . . it wasnt a good mix.

Today, I worked out for the first time in a 1 1/2 wks. I was on a role, for 9 weeks straight I worked out :strong: 3 to 4x a week!!! Can you believe it? So I lost that record due to the injury(hip,knee,arms,back). But today is a new day! It wasn't the best workout, still a little sore, but I went and did it and moved my rump!!

I have been lurking the last few days trying to catch up on everyone. You all are doing so well! :cp:

Glad we are all on this pathway toward health together, that way when someone falls there is always someone else there to pick you up!
Have a great day and I'll catch up with you more soon!

07-14-2003, 06:18 PM
Wow.... Punkin's posting twice in one day??? Yea, I'm workin' hard... :dz:

Bo-Beena's back!!!!! :wave:

Zadie, it sounds like the folk fest was fun though! I know what you mean about graduating to the grownup's table. What used to be my crowd can be highly annoying now...
I'm sorry your kitty's having issues. Hopefully what they have planned will help him feel better. I ended up with 3 cats (all sisters) because the oldest, when she was a single cat, was SO freaked out being alone she was loosing hair and wouldn't come out from under the bed. Aren't they just like little kids sometimes?

Cerise, you posed nude?? You're my new hero. Even as outgoing and extroverted as I am I don't think I could pull that off. Good for you! Extra bravo's on finding out about getting the "family deal" at the gym - and be careful moving!

Now, I'd thought about the paint. But I'd slept in my bedroom the night I'd painted it a couple weeks ago, and didn't feel like this! Plus, even being here at work I'm still woozy when I stand. My Mom said "what about you blood pressure?" Mmmm.... :chin: I haven't had *that* problem in yeeeeears! I took it, and it was 103/75 - and my pulse was 65. AH HA!!!! No wonder I feel dizzy when I stand! Every time I loose a chunk o' weight, and this is the 3rd time in my life I've done it, THIS has happened. It's almost like my body needs to readjust???

I mean think about it - as we get smaller, we need less blood, less 'umph' to pump it around, less fluid in our systems.... I know that the more mass you have, the more veins and the like you have to move blood around. With all Mom's stuff I also learned that overweight people have more lymph nodes. So we have all this extra equipment to be able to "run" our larger bodies - WHAT happens when you don't really need it all anymore?? It makes sense for our bodies to have to adjust things doesn't it?? I don't know, but I'll keep my eye on it and make sure I've got a hold of something when I get up from my chair! :dizzy:

Or, it could all be stress. My Mom said this afternoon that she thinks her hair is starting to come out. Here we go, let's get this part over with! :(

Toodles - part deux,

07-15-2003, 03:33 AM
Yo! Back from a marathon day in the hinterlands with another one coming tomorrow (and all month, actually), so shall let brevity be my guide!!!!

Wildfire, I love the picture of you on a 1950s shiny red bike!!!! You go!!! :dancer:

You are right, Wood Nymph, all these :dance: 's gotta go!!!

qod: The last time I bragged was RIGHT NOW ... just finished a successful day two on my 21-day challenge! :cb:

Brain-dead at the moment. Too much happened today. Good night to all!

07-15-2003, 07:43 AM
Hello All!

Had a bit of a blow up at hubby this morning. Told him exactly what I wanted for lunch today. (Trying to be very careful) So the exact time we are supposed to be walking out the door, he gets his lunchbox and then was like, oh, what was it you wanted? WHAT!!!!!!!!! All I want is to be actually heard and understood sometime. He 'forgot' what it was I said. So, I guess I wasn't getting lunch today. Flew into the kitchen and made my lunch. Men!!

Cerise, darling! Walkie-Walkie!!!!

Moving on the 26th you guys. (WISH it was sooner) Still trying to pack up. MUST complete that this week.

Welcome back Bo-Beena!! Are you all right? Anything broken?

Amarantha-good luck with your 21 day challenge. I read your thread. Wonderful idea!

:wave: Hola to the rest of the chicas! I've gotta run!

07-15-2003, 08:12 AM
Hello all!

Flat tire when I came out of work last night- and no spare -- so riding w/ DH today. Got up an hour early and went thru the motions -- most of the lunches were packed, clothes laid out, but still waking up.
Have no idea why I don't even h ave a doughnut to use as a spare-- guess its another lesson in being prepared-- Similiar to my recent eyeopening moment when I realized I was using the wrong points values. You think you "know" your routine so well that you just "know" there's a spare tire in the trunk.....until you go looking for it!

Hope all is well w/ everyone.

Empress- Here's extra energy vibes towards your long days.

Arabella- If I remember, we both celebrate in July don't we?
And take it from me, as just a year older than you, ENJOY!

Punkin- yes, I 've experienced total exhaustion if I've lost more than a 2 lbs quickly- our bodies do need to adjust-
CONGRATS on 40 lbs!! Good job!

Zadie- Yes, definitely is a "Grown up Moment" when you realize you'd rather sleep at night than not!

Bobeena- glad you're back and feeling better!

Frogger- Aren't men grand in the morning??
That's why I do the lunches and the clothes- just makes my morning more peaceful.

Cerise- Yes, I'm impressed about your posing for the sculpting class too. WOW! And yes, it is a lucky break that you're sil can get you into the gym. Good luck on the move this weekend!

Metta- I can relate .... somethings are not even safe at my house in the freezer..... I have to buy single portions or bring the extras to the neighbors-- In fact, it would probably be a good idea to bring the neighbors the peanut butter jar.

Jenn- GOOD GOING! Any tips you want to share w. us? What's really working well for you?

Dollar- How 's your new "outlook" doing? Don't take an inch away from you 90 lbs down achievement- you are AMAZING.
I know I continue to see more mental changes than physical --
Seems like our brains take longer to see the weight loss than our bodies do.

Wildfire- So, did DH get you a Helmet too? hee, hee, just kidding!

Eydie- I took a look at your journal for vegetarian ideas- I was excited to see Spanakopita mentioned-- I can't find it in the grocery stores- do you make your own??

Who am I forgetting... Don't mean to be rude-
Oh yes, Chikla ( sp?)-- how's life treating you? What is happening in your part of the realm?

Anagram- How is your garden doing? My hydrangeas are the prettiest sky blue I've ever seen- Seems like the rain agrees with them! The baby peach tree however has died. The apples appear to be ok but I am watchful. And the blackberry bush wants to become a hedge! And I think I'll let it!

Okay, so being here an hour early did work out to my advantage- I am so glad I had a chance to chat a tiny bit w/ everyone.

Thought of the day :

"Too many people let others stand in their way and don't go back for one more try."
--Rosabeth Moss Kanter

Question of the day :

"If you could have only have ONE of the following: Either good looks or a great personality, which would you choose?"
--Table Topics
Take care all!

07-15-2003, 08:28 AM
Ah, the mysterious Kayeletsi is back!!! Very intriguing!!! :wave:

Life is strange, a doughnut is a good thing on a car, but a bad thing on our waist! C'est la vie! Or words to that effect.

Still braindead!

Frogger: Good luck on your moving prep. I don't envy you the task but it'll be great when you've accomplished it all!

Cerise, don't forget to walk! :dancer:

Punkin, Arabella: :wave: Hola!!! To all mentioned or unmentioned: Guten Tag!!! :jig:

QOD: I'd choose just what I have: A GREAT PERSONALITY and interesting looks!!! :jig: :cb: :s:

Gotta go! Avanti, all!

07-15-2003, 08:35 AM
Good morning, everyone----just passing thru quickly. Gotta get to work! Speaking of which, remember when I mentioned doing tours for 200 kids? I had a great time with it! I was amazed that soemthing I was dreading turned out to be so much fun!

Cerise, I'm so impressed that you posed nude too! I don't know if I could do that. Nobody's ever asked me----and why not ??!!:lol:

Kaylets, I make my own spanokopita, 'cause I like tons of vegetables in mine. Lots of spinach, tomatoes, potatoes, mushrooms, onions, and i make it as lo-fat as possible too. I'd send you the recipe but it's something that i just throw together, so i don't know the proportions. Next time I make it I'll measure.

Punkinseed, reading your post this morning made me think of a friend that had chemotherapy and when her hair started to come out she brushed it outside for the birds to make nests! I always thought it was a sweet thought. Kind of ceremonial and better than trashing it. How's Mom feeling?

Okay, now I'm truly late. You're all worth it though!:)

07-15-2003, 01:15 PM
Hey, gorgeouses, I'm being brief to make up for that gargantuan post yesterday.

I DID INDEEDY walk yesterday. FROGGER!! Thanks, you guys, for the watching and encouraging. It seems silly, making this big of a ruckus for just walking, but if that's what it takes, baby... Got to walk again today. Wish the pain in my calves/shins would go away...

Today's my last day of work. We pack this week and move on Saturday. I can't WAIT to be a Seattle-ite!!!

Frogger, Ramon was SO pleased to find that I had a buddy to keep me walking. Thank you from him, since he hears about it if I fail. He's learning everyone's names, gradually...Frogger's the lady who's moving too and helps me walk. Kaylets is the inspirational one, always positive (he really likes your quotes). Punkin has the mom I pray for at church and is the other Oregon-ite. Etc.

OK, one more thought before I sign off for brevity's sake (I don't even know why I try). There's this one tree by the sidewalk on my "route" that reminds me of you, Arabella. It's not that big, but it's the kind that branches out immediately into a flattish cover about 11 feet from the ground. As soon as I walk under it, the blazing sun turns into dapples of light in a cool glade (this effect lasts for like 3 seconds, but it's wonderful), green light is all around me, and I SWEAR I'm in a bit of Wood Nymph's forest. I can only explain it by saying that I think you send stuff like that to your friends. Thank you, O Flitting One.

10 more minutes into that walk there's a huge patch of lavender that I can smell forever after I've passed it. Reminds me of Anagram for some reason. Huh.

Ok, enough woo-woo for now. Thank you so much, you guys.

zadie k
07-15-2003, 02:11 PM
Well, I missed a lot this weekend. My sister just found out that she is going to have a baby. What an over achiever, they were only trying for about two weeks. It has caused soem problems though beucase they have to get rid of one of their dogs becuase he bites and is not good to have arround a baby. This means that my parents are probably taking the dog, which my mother thinks is a grand idea and my father is very upset about. You have to understand that this dog is just really horrible in every way and my dad, while rather patient (elementary school teacher for over 20 years), really despises this dog. I keep planting hints to my mother that they will just try it out and if it does not work there are other options. Well, we have eight moths to get it figured out.

I feel really stressed about not studying this weekend.

I ate like a champ yesterday. I think this week is going to work out well. Very focused.

Well, I hope all is well in the world for everyone.

QOD: the personality

07-15-2003, 02:50 PM
Cerise-:cb: Way to go for keeping it up sister!!! Good job! You'll be svelt in no time. Watch out Seattle!!!!!!!! I'm jealous of your last day of work. I don't know how long I'll have to continue torturing myself here. When we move it will be 2 hours to work everyday, 3-4 hours home. :mad:

Eydie-:cp: on your future auntie hood. I have 9 neices and nephews myself. (YES 9!) 3 girlies and 6 boys. My oldest is 6 months older than me! LOL

07-15-2003, 05:03 PM

Finally made it.... my day just doesn't feel complete until I've checked in with you all!

Amarantha, bravo dahling! Day 2, of many, many days in a row, I'm sure! :yes: :cb:

Frogger, I don't know what it is about men. I truly do think they sometimes either speak another language or just don't hear things the way we do... They may be human just like us, but they are definately of another species!

Kaylets, sorry about your flat tire - how ironic that one of the recent Q o' the days was about changing a tire???
:fr: wrong points??? Ack! Glad you found out!

Eydie, I'm so happy you ended up enjoying yourself! I'll tell Mom about the idea of sharing her "gift" with the little chickadees that are nesting... good way of looking at a positive side :halffull:

Zadie, CONGRATS Auntie!!! :cheers: :bubbles: :bb:

Cerise, no such thing as "just" walking - it's exercise no matter how you look at it! :dancer:

Q o' the day ~ I'll take personality. As an overweight person It's always bugged me how so many people see looks as being *everything*. Not-so-perfect people with beautiful personalities are far more appealing than someone who's gorgeous and a $%(&*.

Eydie'd asked 'bout how Mum's feeling. Good, tired, but good. I'm having to kick back in to "Mother your Mother" mode because she won't do what the Dr. said - listen to her body and nap when she's tired. She's fighting it and falling dead asleep at 9pm. :dz: We also found out that she only has 2 more chemo treatments after this next Monday!!!!! So, we're almost 1/2 way through - already - then there's the radiation, but that's not going to be as hard on her physically.... What's that??? There's this light I see waaaaay off in the distance.... :chin: wonder if that's the end of the tunnel? :lol:

Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY MOM!!!!! :gift: :hat: :hb: Today's her birthday.... :bubbles:

Ta for now lovlies!

Terri :encore:

07-15-2003, 07:19 PM
Terri, Give Mom a big birthday group hug from all of us! Hey, are you still belly-dancing? I did an hour today [2 tapes] and felt all wriggly-swivelly by the end!

Wildfire, How's it going with the weights? I wish I liked the lower body stuff more. It's okay, I just don't enjoy it.

Frogger, I think you meant Zadie is going to be an aunt. Congrats, Zadie! Frogger, how do you keep up with all nine?!

Cerise. I loved your story about Arabella and Anagram "manifesting" on your walks!

How's everyone doing? I did okay with food today except for a few rogue choc. kisses!:sumo: :encore: I love the new smilies!!!The 'sumo' and 'encore' are my favorites!

07-15-2003, 07:58 PM

That just has to be the cutest smilie yet! :bubbles: And I like this one, too .... :corn: Mmmmm....popcorn

Okay, I'm done playing now.

Gosh, I've missed so many posts since yesterday morning! Busy bees you all are!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TERRI'S MOM!!! :hat: :gift: :balloons: :grouphug:

Eydie, I'm still plugging away at the weights! I don't like the lower body stuff much either. Maybe 'cause it's harder? :shrug:

Frogger, gads that's a horrible commute you're looking at! I hope you can find another job when you move. You'll just be getting home and have to turn around and go back!

zadie-soon-to-be-aunt-zadie, congrats! :bb: I feel bad for the dog, though...his behaviour is a result of his environment (at least I believe this is how pets pick up behaviours)....maybe the change in homes will bring about an improvement in the dog? :crossed:

Cerise, you go girl! You walk that walk! :high: Did stretching your legs first make any difference in the sore shins? If not, maybe you're starting out walking too quickly....take it slow for 10 minutes or so to give your muscles a chance to adapt. Wow, I'm so impressed that you modelled nude for an art class! I'm so self-conscious of every ounce I don't think I'd be able to do that. :wave: Ramon!

Punkin, how's the dizzyness? :dizzy: Wouldn't hurt to mention it to the doc. Is it listed as a side effect of the meds?

Bo-Beena, good to hear from you!

Arabella, go for the bike! :yes: Northern Reflections is always a good choice, too, though.

Here's a link to my bike (if it works):

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444321 1169&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bmUID=1058309276365

I'm having such fun riding it! Even took my feet off the pedals and stuck my legs out while coming down a hill last night. :lol: I'm telling you, it's taking years off! (My behaviour, anyway!)

Oooh, I go to see Jesse Cook tomorrow night!!! :dancer:

:wave: to anagram, Kaylets, Metta, Jen, Amarantha, dollar are you out there?, and anyone I might be missing.

07-15-2003, 09:22 PM
I know I checked in earlier today but so many posts I think I need to do it more often.

Cerise, thanks for thinking of me on your walks. I'll miss "seeing" you when you're walking in Seattle. Lovely move though.

Kaylets, things seem dry around here lately even with all the rain we had. Lost my hydrangea to drought last year and it was the only one I had so am envying you. Still have some winter damage to have taken care of and need someone to dig some old stuff out of a bed o two. But flowers are lovely esp. my day lillies.

I hadn't noticed there were new smilies until Wildfire and Eydie mentioned them. LOVE the little bubbler.

Halfway through chemo! Hurray! And happy Birthday, Terri's mom!

So we bought a car today. A dark blue Camry. Don't know when it will be ready but within the next couple of days, I guess. Glad that decision is made.

Saw nephrologist today. Dh stable but needs Procrit. This will be a shot once a week to be administered by ME. (no, NO, NO) but of course, I'll learn and I'll do it. He was a rebel tonight about his food (for basically the first time or at least the worst he's been and it's been almost a year). Hope it was a one night rebellion.

Mom neither worse nor much better according to sister who has been there since yesterday (nursie sis worked today) and will be staying a few more. Mom turned down option of hospital but if she does not improve, I suspect that's what will be next. I'm not sure dr. would have let her try home improvement except that RN sister can be there to monitor off and on.

Rogue Hershey kisses on the loose? They were the subject of my horrible binge last week and I don't even care that much for them.Yuk yuk. It's been three days now pretty much doing well, actually a week now of recovering from binge. Don't feel too slim today at all. Hope to get to pool tomorrow and shake it all off. Don't think I'd ever, ever, ever be able to model (or do much of anything else) nude in public. MAYBE would like to be that daring but don't think I'll make it in my lifetime.

Frogger, that commute just wouldn't leave you any time to have a life. That traffic is so awful in your area. I hate it even on a Sunday morning when at least it moves. When leaving DDs (Rockville, MD) to come north, I make sure I'm out by 3 so I don't hit the worst of it and only a really important event coerces me further south than her place because it gets worse by the mile. DS lives in Fairfax and he comes to see us in Rockville so we almost never hit the mess of traffic in his area. Awful.

Lovely evening here tonight. Got quite breezy on the patio which also had the benefit of keeping mosquitos away.

07-16-2003, 03:19 AM
:comp: Fantastic!!!! I love this one:


That's me!!! NOT!!!!

Braindead but very successful day on the 21-day challenge! Need to come back and review these posts! Avanti! :gossip: :cheers:

07-16-2003, 07:43 AM
Hello all!

Today's thought is:
"It doesn't take talent to hustle."
-H. Jackson Brown
Question of the day:
"Have you ever used food to create a picture or an item?"--
Table Topics

This Life Laser Lesson from Mike Brescia had some great points for me to consider-- Hope you find some too!

"Most of the time, I'll hallucinate, you're probably really
busy. Going, going all day.

But how close are you getting to the big dreams?

You have fantasies about being able to wear some of those
"skinny clothes" in your closet, don't you? Remember that
friend of yours you had planned on calling? How about that
group of leads that you wanted to work? What about that
pile in the back yard that needs to be picked up and hauled

Man, life doesn't revolve around watching 'Friends', and
staying for one more round of drinks. Is that really
fulfilling? Do you look back on that with pride or a
feeling of accomplishment? Will those happy-hour buddies
really snub you if you left now? Are these people even
supportive of your far off dreams? The stars of 'Friends'
make over a million per episode. How much do you make
watching them? Get TIVO and you can watch them when you're
too exhausted to do anything fun and rewarding.

I know what it's like to have no control over your

AND what it's like to transcend them.

And it's even tougher to take sometimes, when you do
everything you need to do and you still don't get your
outcome. Damn frustrating, huh?

But here's a rule of thumb. If you're not done, keep

Does it seem odd to even think about working past 5:00?
What about throwing in the exercise video at 10:00 at night?

What would happen if you missed your favorite show this
week? What would really happen?

Shake up your routine.

Get out a piece of paper and write down just one goal. A
medium-sized goal. Something you've been putting off. Put
down the things you need to do to make it happen. Put a
date that it absolutely will be done.

Again, make it a medium-sized task... something that would
only take about 10-20 hours to complete. Make a schedule.
Commit to it... and finish it.

When I did community hearing clinics, I made all of my own
phone calls to set them up, took care of all the
promotion... it was a lot of work.

But I was driven by one thing... not being second in the

If a competitor got there a week or a month ahead of me,
it could mean thousands of dollars. I couldn't bear the
thought of losing that much money because I couldn't get
myself to pick up a 16-ounce telephone receiver to make two
or three calls.

Look at your fears. Figure out what they're costing you.

If you don't ask that person out, you both may miss out

If you don't practice, then you're not going to perform

Plug in your own situation. Do you want those results?

Listen to your inner voice. What's it saying when you're
worried or having a panic attack... over a very routine
thing for most people?

When you're stopped cold, notice what you're focusing on
and what you're telling yourself.

I'll guarantee it's not, "Go for it!" You're most
definitely NOT telling yourself that you can do the job...
that's it's no big deal.

Look at the empowering beliefs below and commit them to
memory. Say them over and over until you dream about them.
Read them constantly.

Your circumstances won't change until your thoughts
change. Pound that into your head.

You know, I must have watched the movies "Rocky" and
"Rudy" 50 times each. Why? Because nothing changes until
you change what you think about. And emotional stories
about people who overcome huge odds can inspire you to do
the same.

Whenever I'm feeling stuck I pull out my empowering
questions or my affirmation cards or read/watch an
empowering story.

It never ever fails to get me back on track and hopeful.

Do like the legendary basketball coach John Wooden says
and "drink from good books." He reads something powerful
and encouraging every single day.

And there was no better life coach than him.

Do you believe "what goes in must come out?"

Then act by what you believe and keep the positive flowing
in every minute you can...

set that goal...

and get hustling.

Do that and something good will always happen."

Mike Brescia- Life Laser Lesson

07-16-2003, 08:53 AM
Sorry Eydie!! I really meant to congratulate Zadie! :doh:

It's a mess to keep up with them! Mind you, I am 23 years old. David is 24, Rick is 21, James is 17, Ashley is 14, Riley is 13, Sammantha is 13, Robert is 12, Brian is 11, and Richard is 1. I guess I should count my hubby's neice Haley (who is 1 yr old)also (So that makes 10!!!) And I don't have any kids yet!

07-16-2003, 09:04 AM
Jeez...time is flying!

Gotta drive DS to work I think, so this is short.
You guys are doing great, and I too love the new smileys...and the look of the updated page!


07-16-2003, 09:12 AM
Good Morning, Lovelies! Whoa, have I been busy - hurricane DGS hit yesterday. Also had my sister over for lunch, counting on DGS' 3-hour naps. Well. OF COURSE he didn't sleep yesterday. Had him from 6:45 till 4:45, going non-stop. And then I had an assignment last night, so I was working from 5 'til 10. T-I-R-E-D. The day before I'd opened a word file to write some responses off and on through the day, rather than trying to do it all in one, so some of these might be going a couple of days back. Hope you can still figure out what I'm referring to :rolleyes:

Noticed yesterday how much flatter my tummy is.

KAYLETS! Yes, our BDs are both in July -- did you slip that past us? July 5th is our beloved Kaylet's birthday and the closest I could see to a mention was that you said DH was making you breakfast! Ah, let's just celebrate Kaylets all month!

Happy Belated! :balloons:

For some reason, I cannot think of you as being my age. You always seem to be maybe early-mid thirties: mature, but still fresh and youthful. You're a beautiful, beautiful spirit!

Eydie, my birthday's July 18th - Friday. I have been making enough noise about it! I always thought that was the perfect time for a birthday. Really mid-summer here, and one of the times of the year that you can expect nice weather. We've had terrific summer weather here this year, though. Lots of sunny days in the upper 20s. Would be ideal for living on the shore, which is my ultimate dream.

Metta, I think you shouldn't worry about eating more on days when you're extra hungry. Some days are hungrier than others, and I think it means that we need more calories on those days. On the bright side, DBF did say that you ate a lot "for a woman your size." Back-handed compliment? I remember years ago, when I was rather slender (where's the wistful smiley?) I was at a fast-food place with DBF and was having a ravenous day. I wolfed a goodly portion and sat back to see that DBF was only half-finished his plate. I hadn't even looked up! He stood up and picked up my tray and said in a loud voice, "Can I get you another tray of food, Lovey?" :lol:

Anagram, I was v. relieved to see how long it took you to do your floor. I thought, "How can it have taken me so long?" But you're right. That's just how long it takes. If we allowed ourselves to realize how long those things REALLY took, it would be WAY too hard to make ourselves do them :eek: I told myself the same thing, too. That I wouldn't have to do it again in the forseeable future, because I had no intention of waxing over dirt myself.

Punkin, your wall sounds lovely! What color is it? Someone on one of the other threads just did some technique like that on her dining-room wall and posted a pic and it looked tres elegante!

Second anniversary of my 24th B'day.... uh, okay! Can I say I'm twice as good as a 24-year-old?

Happy belated to your mom, too. So glad that chemo's half done, too :yes:

Jenn, 150 sounds fantastic! What's your goal? You're getting there!

ZadieK, frozen chocolate covered banana rolled in nuts? :eek: That sounds WAY too good. And... let's see... mostly natural ingredients, not much sugar, no flour. Protein, potassium... That is definitely going on my sometime treat list. Should be possible to make at home.... Dark or milk chocolate? Inquiring minds want to know :T

Cerise, you are beyond sweet! I will continue flitting, and grow increasingly ageless rather than increasingly aged :yes:

I loved what you wrote about your brief sun-dappled glade experience! I was very touched. I hadn't thought of it before, but so many of these lovely experiences ARE very fleeting. Really, though, they are eternal, and last forever because we can call them up. Loved Anagram's lavendar, too.

A friend of mine used to pose for a drawing class. She really liked it, and found it empowering. She was slender, but had gained 10 pounds or so and thought she was fat. No complaints from the class, however. Then, over a Christmas break of maybe a month, she gained another 15-20 pounds (may have quit smoking, I'm not sure). After the first class back, one of the "artists" said to her: "Wow. I guess you really enjoyed your Christmas turkey!" OW! I think she quit then and I'm sure she still thinks of that as one of her most humiliating moments. What kind of a moron would say such a thing!?

I'm sure this is not a representative experience, though, just one of a very provincial, redneck sexist plunked into an art class.

Right then. I'd better get some work done. I'm determined to get the house party-ready, so I can mostly just relax on Saturday.

Let's make this a fabulous day. Love to all, mentioned or unmentioned!

07-16-2003, 10:01 AM
I'm in on a quickie this a.m. too as I've decided to make sure some of my "me" time today is off the computer.

I've already had the first slice - leisurely breakfast/paper read on the patio. One of the joys of my day with bunnies, squirrels, peace and quiet (marred slightly by some one who felt the need to share his music with the world). Oops - and with dh, too.

Second slice will be the pool and a relaxing workout. Third will be a class tonight (third of four). Lots of LITTLE things to squeeze in between but those darn little things can take so much time.

Kaylets, thanks for my new motto IF YOU'RE NOT DONE, KEEP GOING. It's a real positive, energizing thought for me.

Anyhow, folk, have a great day, op or not. WE'RE ALL HEALTHIER THAN WE'VE BEEN IN YEARS.

07-16-2003, 11:15 AM
Yo! Still braindead so I'll be brief as well. So many great posts in here and all I can do these days is go :wave:!

Wood Nymph: That's a neat idea about just writing responses throughout the day and then posting! Hope you get some rest today.

Wildfire: Yo! How's your program going?

Punkin: I can't find your post about dizziness, just saw a response to it. Maybe it's just a stress response (could be sinus infection as well) but likely you should mention it to doc. Couldn't hurt. Happy belated birthday to your mom! :)

Frogger: Congrats on the new digs!!!

Sword Bearer: Yo! :wave:

Eydie: Are you still bellydancing? There are two people on the 21-day challenge thread that seem to be into that! Maybe I'll give it a try! Could look like the woman on that old genie tv show ... :genie: ... hm, that'd be nice!

Kaylets: Happy belated birthday to you! Thanks for all your inspiring posts and here's my answer to qod:

Yes, I've made pictures with food, long, long ago in the Girl Scouts or Brownies or Elfs or something. Remember gluing macaroni on paper to make a house and I think we did something artistic with peanut butter once, though I can't imagine what that could have consisted of. Also, we made gingerbread men and decorated them, so I guess that qualifies as a picture. Once I made a gingerbread house for Christmas. :cb:

To all, mentioned or unmentioned, have a great day!

:sunny: :gossip: :encore: :bubbles:

07-16-2003, 12:21 PM
Happy week-half-over Wednesday! :hat:

It's decision day here... my Mom just called me in to her bathroom and there was a sink full of hair. God I was dreading this day... How many pounds can I loose if I cry for an hour or so? :( We both said at the same time "let's just get this over with" - but she's trying to decide *when* to shave it - right now you barely touch her head and 30 hair fall out. Ug... this is hard. I need virtual hand holding you guys!

Snuck a peek at the scale this morning and I was down to 216.8... I am amazed, but I've been waiting for all my ellipticalling (is that a word?) to kick in, and wow did it! :strong:

Eydie, yeah, still bellydancing, but not as much... I've been attacking my elliptical almost every day for 20 minutes. For some reason it's just hitting the spot and I feel like I *have* to (or really, really want to). I've been just listening to what my body wants to do. I am taking my dvd's to Bo-Beena's house for her to see.... :devil: I'm gonna have her gettin' swively soon too!

Wildfire, I have my 2 month Dr. appointment today and I was going to bring it up. It's not a side effect of the meds that I could find anyway - but even if it was, last week was my "week off" with no drugs and it hit me on Sunday so I don't think it's related. I swear it's probably just psychosomatic - I don't want to go to work on Mondays!!!!
I am just loving the visuals of you on your new bike!!! :lol:

Anagram, congrats on the new wheels! You'll be able to give DH his shot, not problem. It's hard the first time, but you get used to it (the feeling IS like sticking an orange). I used to give myself Imitrex shots for migraines...

Amarantha, I'll go have a lurky-loo at your 21 day thread if you don't mind! :mag: One can never have too much support or inspiration!

Frogger, I'm impressed that you can keep all those neices and nephews straight! I have 1 "natural" neice (brother's daughter) and 4 neices and nephews that are the children of my bestest friends - and I have to keep a cheat-sheet on their ages and birthdays!

Ceara, you're right, this week is flying by!

Arabella, I'm tired reading about your day too! Work *and* hurricane DGS??? :spin: I hope you got some sort of visit in with your sister!
My wall has a cream base, then sponged with a warm burnt orange color and a green color that's kind of mix of dark dried grass and green olives... it turned out very nice and 4 days later I'm *still* impressed with it! :dance: I'll have to see if I can get a digital pic of it....
Oh, and yes, you CAN consider yourself twice as good as a 24 year old! :yes:

Kaylets, happy belated! You celebrated a very quiet birthday! We would've thrown roses and toasted with champagne for ya!
:encore: :cheers:

Q o' the day ~ absolutely I've made pictures with my food!

Off to find breakfast! :hun:


07-16-2003, 05:20 PM
Punkin, if there were a hand holding smilie, I'd be clicking it right now!!!!

Remember that this is just a stage in the process of mom getting well. She's going to get there!

Would love to have you do a 21-dayer with us!!! I'm totally sold on this challenge (thanks be to Arabella for introducing it here) and am gonna do it and then do another one with a new set o' "rules"!!! No deviations!

07-16-2003, 06:40 PM
Major Breakthru for me today! The toxic co-worker came into my workspace today, baiting me to start gossipping with her and when I didn't play along she insulted me by saying that she knew I'd just tell everyone what she said anyway. A complete untruth! Next thing I knew this mysterious crimson veil came down over me [too over the top?] and I told this woman that I wasn't having this EVER again. I think that she was quite surprized that I didn't just give in like I've done for the last 9 years. Let's just say that I made it clear that I wasn't interested in getting involved in any of the petty intrigues she tried to stir up; I suggested she engage a mediator or file a grievance if she had problems with the staff, etc. [In case anyone thinks that I was a complete lady about this, let me put your mind at ease and say that I used some choice expletives as I relayed this message!]

Not only that I've signed up for another yoga class. And I don't really want tp drive to it tonight, but I'm making the effort and stirring my old bones to do it.

All Hail, Queen Eydie! [if I do say so myself!!!]:encore: :encore: :encore:

zadie k
07-16-2003, 10:27 PM
It has been a very hectic day. I did a full run of the multiple choice section of the exam today. I have improved since last time and I am almost to passing with two weeks to go (from yesterday). By this time two weeks from now it will be all over and I will probably be drunk. Tomorow we are running a set of the essays which will be a little less grueling becuase it is less boring.

Terri - Please have a dose of handholding from me. Remember the chemo is almost over and the radiation is MUCH easier to deal with. Frequent, uncomfortable, but really not so bad. I ended up with a wacky tan on my stomach and they put me on the no fiber diet, but aside from that it is a piece of cake compared to chemo. So just hold on and wait it out a bit longer and it will all be much better.

Arabella - dark chocolate on the banana. it was so good it had to be bad for me but not too bad. a great treat for a hot day.

Eydie - Good job. Hopefully once will be enough for her to get the point that you do not play that game.

happy birthdays both belated and premature.

well, back to the grind.

07-17-2003, 12:39 AM
Jesse Cook was FABULOUS!!! I even met him afterward, and he signed a CD for me!!!

I've got to get to bed, but I'm still high from the whole thing! Standing ovations, THREE encores.... :encore: What a night! If we hadn't changed our dinner plans at the last minute, we would have had dinner at the same restaurant that Jesse was at! While we were waiting outside before it started, he casually wandered in the front door, saying hi to everyone who was there. He's just incredible.


07-17-2003, 07:10 AM
Good Morning, Lovelies! I had a big off-P incident yesterday, so I'm back to Day 1. Exhausted from day before. What I should have done was to allow myself to take the day off. I really got almost nothing done, anyway, because I just came to the computer and mostly goofed off. Wandered around the house. This is really a dangerous situation for me, plan-wise. I need to give myself what I need or my inner child will rise up and take the substitute of choice :hun: Back OnP again today, and reminding self that this is the way I intend to live forever, and I must just take any aberrant behavior for what it is, an aberration, and go on with my life.

Punkin, consider your hand held! Where is the darn hand-holding smiley? This one will have to do :grouphug: What an emotional event! We're all (women, that is) so involved with our hair, I think that the hair loss is one of the most stressful parts of chemo.

Re: ellipticalling (let's make it a word if it isn't one!) - there's just nothing like that high-intensity stuff for burning off the stress! How fantastic that you know you need that, and don't think you need ... oh, deep fried mars bars!

I did get in a visit with my sister, but it was surrounded by missed phone calls and waiting for calls returned so that I spent about an hour and a half trying to track her down. It was a stressful day :stress: The actual job (summarizing a conference call) actually went well, though. I finished by deadline, which is just possible when all conditions are right.

Do see if you can get a digital shot of your walls. They sound sumptuous!

Amarantha, I was braindead all day yesterday. I don't know why I can't just stay away from the computer when I'm in that state. I almost never accomplish anything. And it's a mystery to me where the time goes, too. :shrug: That's one behavior I'd really like to shake. I should just go back to bed, with a novel or a stack of magazines if i can't sleep. Unfortunately, what I had instead was 3 ice cream treats. Oh well, today is another day. Day 1, that would be :rolleyes:

Eydie, a big congrats on your confrontation! I know how much those nasty episodes with TCW (toxic coworker) bothered you. You're free!

Your spanikopita sounds yummy! I've thought of adding in more veggies, but never quite did it. And I'm always trying to get in more veggies, so it sounds helpful in that regard. I had some good chickpea patties at a women's dinner the other night. I think they'd be even better with a spicy or raita-type sauce - hmmm.... maybe coriander-mint sauce - but they were delicious, healthy, easy and cheap to make - can't beat that! I'm going to try them on DH some time soon.

Anagram, your setting sounds positively idyllic! What a lovely place to have coffee and gently start your day.

Frogger, DHs are like that! Mine asked me if I was thinking of doing laundry the other day. I was going out and said that it might not be all dry before I left, so there might be some left on the line. What a look I got! And then he expected applause for taking it off the line (and leaving it in the basket for me to put away). :p

Kaylets, old QoD: I will definitely take the personality over the looks. #1 - Good looks are just a crunchy candy coating; the personality is the real thing. Can't have a conversation with looks, just with a person. It just so happens that we're all lovely and have fabulous personalities! To some extent I think our personalities show in our looks and that makes us look either much better or much worse than we would otherwise.

#2 - I have known some people who were so gorgeous that you could hardly help but stare, but once I got to know them, they didn't look very good at all. To me, people with nasty personalities, or really stupid people (I know this is a failing on my part) are not attractive. Looks and personality are a great package deal. On the other hand, I've known people who were not really attractive that had terrific personalities, and as I got to know them they looked better and better to me.

Wildfire, sure sounds like you're having a blast these days! Your new bike, Jesse Cook again. I love JC too, and it's always so much better when a performer is a nice person, which he sounds like. Are you coming to PEI in August? That would be so cool!

Love to all, mentioned or unmentioned. Let's make this a great day!

07-17-2003, 07:45 AM
Hello all!!

Punkin-- I have the other hand!! And a big smooch for Mom!
I am so sorry you both have to go thru this.

Arabella- Enjoy your day tomorrow! I am suprised you went back to read my post for my birthday. I was in denial I guess that the last 40 number was being celebrated.
Am better adjusted now to it "being just a number, its how you feel..." but it is moving by quickly isnt it??

Thanks to eveyone who had such nice things to say with birthday wishes. I didnt mention it much on the board as I said, I was in denial. But frankly, am still suprised that my work group missed the whole thing. We have a round robin type of system for celebrating and somehow the last person who celebrated doesnt realize. I feel like it would just embarrass everyone to bring it up so I am not saying anything. Although it almost came out yesterday when we were reading the Humorscopes. ( Which by the way, I'm wondering if our thread would enjoy them. Hmmm--
maybe too much for here, perhaps just a separate thread for the Humorscope )

A wonderful email arrived from Bob Perks this am and here it is:

All stories are copyrighted 2003 Bob Perks.
Today's Message:

"A Sense of Possibility!"
(For my son Evan as he begins college.)
By Bob Perks

"Pop, what do I say to him? What one thing do I offer my son that would be the standard for him to live his life?" the man asked.

"Oh, the age old question," the old man said.

Realizing the significance of this moment in the relationship between he and his own son, he thought long and hard before answering.

He could reference faith, ethical and moral issues, hard work, commitment and of course, love. But deep within he heard the Voice that spoke clearly and concisely to his heart. Acknowledging it, he realized that he, too, had come full circle in his own life. For without this, there was no hope.

With his left hand on his son's shoulder, he lifted his right hand through the air like a stroke of a brush and said, "Begin each day with a "sense of possibility."

Look at a seed and marvel at all the "possible" within.
See a flower as your life, an expression of love, sympathy, beauty and forgiveness.
Watch a sunrise wash away the "impossible" of yesterday.
See rain and cloudy skies as a gift in contrast to the sun for they are equally important to life itself.
Look at a stranger and see the possibility of friendship and an expression of God's love.
See the road before you as a great adventure.
Hear the sound of a single note and realize it can become a symphony.
Hold a book in your hand and see it as an unopened treasure.
Discover that both noise and silence are equally important in your life.
See the possibility in the complexity of a city or in the simplicity of one single home.
Understand the significance and role of faith.
Know that both tragedy and loss are great teachers.
Believe that birth is ..... way of saying there's still hope for the world and death is but another dimension of life.
Laugh often. It will give you strength in the darkest hours of your life.
See the value of things discarded, unwanted by others. It proves that nothing is worthless.
Be in awe of both wide open spaces and crowded places.
Be the "possible" in "hopeless."
See the ocean in a single drop of water.
Perceive a tear as a world in itself.
See yourself as a needle and thread and rejoice in all you can create, mend, improve, change or cover up.
Recognize all the "possibilities" in old age and youth.
Believe that there are better days ahead for your country and the world because you are a participant, not just an observer........
"I believe in you!"
Bob Perks

Today's thought of the day is:

To know there is always more than what is seen, makes everything you look at a treasure."
-- Bob Perks
Question of the day:

"Have you ever felt sick from stress?"
-- Table Topics

To everyone-- have I told you lately how much I appreciate being a part of this group?? You're the best.

Take care--

07-17-2003, 12:14 PM
Yo! Fly-by postie on way out door!!!

Arabella: I do that sitting on the computer when I really need to sleep or read thing as well, even when I'm not working. Now I'm getting a palm (used) for work but intend to use it in my 21-day challenge as a calorie counter, whatnot, when I could just write the calories down in a journal. I just can't leave computers alone!

I like having the 21-day thing on a separate thread ... it's really aiding me to focus on that. I think this is a powerful tool to advance the journey.

Eydie: Good for you for braving the ire of the toxic coworker ... there's one up in the newsroom where I'm working this month (but hopefully not forever) and it's making me crazy, though the venom is not directed towards me, rather I'm the prospective suckee into her world of anger and bitterness. It's not like I have no anger of my own, but why just feed it everyday?

I need a vacation.

Kaylets: No need to be in denial! :) You can be any age you wish to be ... it's all in the mind (and a little in the hormones).

QOD: I believe many of my ailments are caused by stress, including being overweight, and that this is a physical thing, the result of the stress hormone cortisol, which is good in some instances because without it we'd not be able to fight off attackers or get up in the morning, etc., but is bad in excess because it harms our bodies and also aids the body to hold onto excess fat, especially around the core area where it poses a greater risk for heart disease. All this is my own unscientific opinion and medly of mumbo jumbo. I don't really know. But cortisol be bad!!! :dancer:

07-17-2003, 01:59 PM
Happy Friday eve!

Aaah, the week's almost over..... :faint:
Thank you all for the virtual hand holding. It helps to talk about it and for some reason, knowing that there's support there and that people care, is immensely comforting. Tomarrow after work we're all going to our hair dresser. My stepfather's shaving his head too. They both forbid me to :dz: but my Mom did buy me a hat! She keeps coming home with new hats - I had to ask her how long she intends to be bald! :lol:

I had my mood lightened a few shades yesterday afternoon... I had my 2 month Dr. appointment where she literally said "oh my God" like 3 times while weighing me and then proceeded to tell me how impressed she was with my loss - and especially how I'm managing to do this with all the "mom stuff" going on. Very few people understand why it's easy to loose weight now, because it's the ONLY thing I *can* control. So you grab what you can control and run with it... (oh, and the dizziness *is* a side effect and she thinks was also part low blood pressure, rapid weight loss and the fact that each time it'd happened I hadn't eaten in awhile....).
Then afterwards at the grocery store the lady checking me out said "you've lost weight!" (she and I have spoken in the past, she's from my hometown). Finally! Someone's noticed!!! :dance:

Kaylets, I agree with Amarantha, age is mostly in the mind. You are as old as you *feel* and I betcha' you were in denial because how you feel doesn't match what your birth certificate says! I think that's a GOOD thing!
Oh, and I'm all for a humorscope thread! :lol:

Amarantha, thank you for your hand.... yes, I have been reminding myself that it's part of the process. Heck, if she *wasn't* loosing her hair we'd be a little concerned that the chemo wasn't working right! I think it's the waiting that's getting us - let's just get it over with and break out the hats! I like this hat - :lucky: or this one - :joker:...

Eydie, indeed all hail :queen: Eydie! Good for you! Or as my friends would say "Go Goddess!".

Zadie, we'll all have a drink with you when your test is over! (virtual or otherwise!). Good luck!!!!!! :crossed:
Thank you for your continued insite in to all this.... We were forewarned about the tanning - and she still has blue in her skin from the sentinel node surgery that they said would take 6 months to clear. So she'll be tan, blue, tired, bald and have a dent in her boob (also warned about radiation toughening the skin), but damn it, she'll be cancer free! :cheers:

Wildfire, it sounds like you had an awsome time!

Arabella, hey, weren't you the one that told me things like this are gonna happen occassionally? You have an excellent attitude - it IS just an aberration! A passing phase, a ghost of an occurrance.... but now, finito!
And yes, I'm beside myself with glee that it's a yearning for ellipticalling and NOT a deep fried Mars bar! :lol:

Q o' the day ~ I used to make myself physically sick from stress. Either I've gotten good at handling it, or I'm in denial because I don't get that sick anymore... I remember actually being taken to the Dr.'s when I was 6 during my parent's divorce because they thought I'd had the flu for a month. :rolleyes: The things kids do...

Toodles for now,

07-17-2003, 05:55 PM
QoD: Oh, dear. I have a really hard time with that. I have literally gotten sick overnight when something especially stressful happened. That is one of my major focuses now, trying to control my stress levels instead of letting them control me.

Punkin, just in case you didn't know, the hair loss IS a sign that the chemo is working. The hair loss is an indication of that -- it's a side effect of cell-killing I think, or something like that. But a good sign, definitely. My dad really never lost much hair from chemo, and died of his cancer. And then a friend of mine, who went almost totally bald, was told by her oncologist that the good news was, bald as she was it meant that the chemo was really blasting the cancer.

Amarantha, I agree that the separate thread helps focus, but I feel like one thread is all I can handle at the mo. If that! I just have to use my me-news to focus on the challenge. Avanti!

07-17-2003, 07:00 PM
Arabella, it's funny that you mention that hair loss is a sign the chemo's working. Mom and I were playing (more like fighting) some scarves this afternoon and I told her "ya know, I think I'd be more worried if you *weren't* loosing your hair by now". She said that was very true.... Her hair's so thin this afternoon that it's like a preview of seeing her bald - maybe it won't be so shocking now... funny how life works sometimes isn't it?

We've learned not all chemo involves hair loss - it's the side effect of only certain drugs. Mom's getting 3 different drugs specific to breast cancer. 1 doesn't involve hair loss as a side effect, 2 of them do. One of my Mom's best friends is going through chemo for a type of bone cancer and she's still the owner of a head of hair. I believe Zadie said she didn't loose hair with her chemo either. But anyway, in Mom's instance, it IS proof that the drugs are doing what they need to - essentially stopping the replication of certain cells, the ones that grow hair, nails, the lining of your mouth, stomach and intestines and skin cells. Most importantly it causes cancer cells to be unable to replicate. Where's that nuclear bomb smilie??? It causes 'em to just blow apart.... :cb: Bu-bye cancer cells, see ya, ain't nevah gonna be ya!!! :wave: Ka-BOOOM! :devil:

Ok, 'nuff of my silly self! :lol:


07-18-2003, 01:53 AM
Yo! Hats are great Punkin!! I wear them everyday. Lately, they've served to cover up a bad haircut, but they also can cover up a multitude of other things. Hats are very special. Whenever I feel sad, I put on a hat and it cheers me right up! Hope the hat your mom bought you is the start of a wonderful collection! I think it's cool your stepdad's shaving his head!!!!

Wood Nymph, didn't mean to imply pressure on anyone to post on the 21-day thread, just sharing my enjoyment of doing it that way and how important the challenge has become in my journey at the moment. :)

For some reason, guys, I am profoundly sad today. Not sure why, since the journey is going so well and I actually wore my next smaller size jeans today.

I would think it was hormones if I had any. :)

07-18-2003, 07:30 AM
Hello all!

Friday always is my favorite day. Things here are calming down some... We found out a few weeks ago that just before we
had left for Florida, DS had not only been fired from his job but arrested for stealing from his employer. The merchandise never left the store but he was caught redhanded and they pressed charges. In more ways than one, DH and myself found this to be
the last straw. DH can easily be manipulated by guilt but realizes this situation was beyond the pale. There was no "gray area" or "benefit of the doubt". The store's employee handbook had pages of info about the security cameras, a reward system to turn in fellow employees, etc, etc. It was a case of " I can beat the system".
The hearing was earlier this week and now DS has probation and community service. We chose not to go w/ him as part of the problem is that DS expects us to clean up every crisis he creates.

One thing for sure, I have learned that the expression "Makes you wonder how they were raised... " is entirely untrue.

Empress- I was wondering if my low mood of late was also partly hormonal- and then was wondering why I have to find a physical cause- maybe I was just sad??

Punkin- Congrats on pounds down! Glad you spoke to the Dr about the headache/blood pressure issue. I know it can be a challenge when so many other things are going on too but don't forget to get those vegatables and fruits in-- even if its a V-8 drink-- I have to force myself to get my supplements in every day-
When I am extra stressed, its so easy to forget!

And in fact, let me take them now!!

Frogger- I am so confused- the house you bought is 2 hrs away from where you are now? And now both you and you new DH have a much longer commute? Or perhaps DH's job is closer to the new house? Or is it that the job is moving 2 hrs away? I give up....

have a good one all!

Thought of the day :

"Be yourself. You are the best at it."
-- Bob Perks

Question of the day :

" Can you remember your favorite toy as a child?"
-- Table Topics

07-18-2003, 08:44 AM
Good Morning, All!

Day 2, here. Yesterday's Day 1 went swell, and I had another assignment that was about as low-stress as those things can be, finished close to deadline :)

I'm going to spare you all the novel-length post today ;) I'm supposed to be going to the beach for the first time this summer. I love the shore so much - even more than the woods, if the truth be told! Water nymph today :D

Kaylets, do you think your mood is related to the difficulties with DS? It must be so terribly stressful for you :grouphug: Problems with our kids is absolutely the WORST! In any case, moods can be hormonal any old time, and we can always find something that we're unhappy about, too. But if we just go ahead and feel it, we get through to the other side and feel better. :yes: :love:

Yeesh! I just thoughtlessly went back to the previous page to see more posts. And miracle of miracles, my post was still here when I paged ahead again. Unbelievable!

Amarantha, I didn't feel pressured, I just wanted to make sure you knew why I was clinging, limpet-like, to this thread only instead of joining the official 21-Day Challenge thread.

Punkin, a huge congrats on that 216!!!!! Can't wait to see where you are by Labor Day. Here's to both of us being in Onederland! :cheers: :crossed:

Re: chemo - isn't it the case that people respond to specific drugs differently and the rate of hair loss indicates how well a chemo drug is working? That was what my friend was told, so I've always thought the hair loss was a good sign.

OK, my Darlings! I'm off - I am sworn to clean my house this morning. Big party tomorrow and I want the day to be as relaxing as poss. instead of frantic prep from the get-go. Let's make this a wonderful day! Love to all, mentioned or unmentioned!

07-18-2003, 10:22 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ARABELLA!:hb: :gift: :joker: :queen: :wizard:
Thank you for incarnating into this "vale of tears" and adding so much to every life you touch! You're one of my favorites!:D And I'm so envious of your beach trip---I can't wait to go back. Is it close? For us, it involves driving over 5 hours, so it's a real project.

Punkin, you're a wonder indeed. You're doing so well and I'm glad the mystery is solved [the dizziness, that is!]. Very cool that your stepdad's being so sweet to shave his head. Solidarity!

Kaylets, I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you and DH to deal with your stepson. Heartbreaking---I'm truly sorry that you have to go thru it.

Amarantha, Some days one just feels melancholy. [Wow, isn't that an old-fashioned word?! Conjures up visions of tragic heroines moping around the dreary castle on the moors or something....] And I wish I were a hat person; I don't know if I can pull it off though----hey, I did really enjoy wearing my witch hat at the HP midnight hoohah though!

Have a great weekend, every body! My plan is to stay beautifully on track--work out, eat well, etc.

07-18-2003, 11:26 AM
I think I need a strategy for reading this thread. I've had a crazy amount going on at work this week, and now when I check back in, there's a flood of posts! Let me just say that you all rock. You do. It's so nice to see such a supportive group of people.

Punkinseed, congratulations on the weight loss! Keeping it together diet-wise during a stressful time is something that a lot of people struggle with; it's awesome that you are doing it.

Cerise, I think it's so cool that you have the confidence to pose nude. I could never do that. I'm a lot more comfortable with my body now than I was last winter, and I still feel self-conscious just thinking about it.

Um, um... oh man, I can't remember everyone's names. I have to check in more often and then I'll keep it all straight.

Anyway, I made some unfortunate food choices this week, but overall I was pretty good. I have been slack with the cardiovascular exercise, though. Funny how one break day becomes five so easily.

Today's my weekly weigh-in, and I'm down a pound, so I've lost 30 pounds total. Plan for this weekend: running! aerobics! cardio of any sort! After being in the office all week, I need it.

Have a lovely on-plan day, everyone!

07-18-2003, 01:35 PM
Well it's Friday.... I hesitate to say "happy" Friday because it's been a hellish morning - our company cell phones aren't working and I want to rip the head off of one of my clients.... other than that, happy Friday! :dz:

Amarantha, I'm sorry you're feeling sad. I've had the unexplainable blues before too and it's so hard.... I hope you're feeling more yourself soon!
I just might make hats a habit now too - I really like the one I have now!

Kaylets, you and your DH are obviously very strong people. Your son's putting you through some incredible stress - and you're right, you really do question that old saying in times like these. Hopefully, like my brother did, your son will find his way - :crossed: that it's sooner than later.

Arabella, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! :cheers: :hat: :hb:
About the whole chemo/hair loss thing - honestly I think it's a matter of "ask 100 Drs. 1 question you'll get 100 different answers" - they all have an opinion, most of them different (hence the confusion on her treatment in the beginning). Her oncologist said to expect the hair loss any time after 10 days had passed from her first treatment. She was on day 15 when it really started coming out.

Speaking of the soon to be hair-less Momma and stepDaddy - since they both refuse to let me shave my head (I know I'm an adult and could still do it, but I understand their reasons and respect them), I've decided instead to grow out my hair for the next year or so and then donate the ponytail to Locks Of Love. So, next year when Mom's hair is growing back, I can help create a curly red headed wig for a little kid who's loosing theirs due to chemo or other disease. The decision's been made! :yes:

Metta, :lol: I've actually resorted to taking notes as I read the posts so I can remember what I wanted to say to whom! Otherwise I'm lost - there's so many of us and we're all so busy!
:cb: And a big BRAVO and YOU GO GODDESS for the loss of 30 pounds!!!! :cb:

Q o' the Day ~
Favorite toy as a child hands down were my Hot Wheels.

:queen: of Friday, and do now declareth it FRIDAY!!!!!! :dance:

07-18-2003, 04:33 PM
Just lurking around reading some posts thought i would check in.

Im really struggling and thats what brought me here. I cant explain the food consumption(behavior) I am really disappointed in myself. Also im not exercising..however i do play coed basketball on thursday but thats not enough. I cant seem to pull myself to the gym. I feel doomed and exhausted. I havent been using my sleep apnea mask in a while and im sure there is a connection to my mood with that. ITs just so hard. Its such and easy formula eat right+exercise+mask+medication= healthy life.

Ok so i am going to challenge myself to eat right, exercise, mask, medication for pulling this off all weekend long. Weekends are easier to be healthier because i have no food in the house, walking because i have more time, medication is easy,the mask is really the tough one this weekend. Friday is bagel day and junk day. And boy it was so sinful today. I would say it was close to a binge. The only thing different from a binge is that i didnt feel sick afterwards.

Have a good weekend ladies.

07-18-2003, 06:53 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ARABELLA!!! (In sea-green, for our Water Nymph!)

:queen: :balloons: :gift: :hat: :cheers: :bubbles: :encore:

07-19-2003, 07:31 AM
Hello all!!

Thanks for the support and kind words regarding DS. My DH has really been changed the most as he now also sees himself as "enabler" rather than just "generous". And yes, its so true, the choices are only DS. Both DS and DD ( my step children) were raised together, same environment and they are like night and day. DD is a hard worker, (two jobs sometimes) and never asks for anything. In fact, is mortified when she has to ask.

Am going to a 6 hr "officers training" for Toastmaster's today.
Did I mention I'm now VP of Membership?? Hee hee- I thought I was the shy one!!


Today's thought is:

It had long since come to my attention that people of
accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to
them. They went out and happened to things."
-- Elinor Smith

Question of the day :

"Do you say 'yes' to your friends when you want to say 'no' ?"
-- Table Topics

Take care all

07-20-2003, 07:26 AM
Hello all!!

Got up an hour ago becuase the dogs were begging for breakfast and just now starting to think I'll stay up rather than go back to bed.

I had a Toastmaster's Officers Training yesterday so DH went yardsaling w/o me.
Guess his heart wasnt in it- he wound up at Trader Joe's instead. He did find a great
Spinach & Cheese Pie by The Fillo Factory which was tasty and very reasonably priced.
Can't really justify making it it was inexpensive. No hydrogenated oil, no yeast,
and REALLY flaky. Nothing like the tough dried up one that we had in the restaraunt.

DH also bought me a tub of the Chocolate Chip Meringue's which was not the best
choice. Off track but not too bad and as I always say, if you are going to
use extra points -- do it on something worthwhile. These meringues are the best!

DH's sugar numbers are too high this am which is a big warning for him.
Got to find some more "safe" foods to make things more interesting. We've both
been "coasting" and are really starting to lose our momentum.

I had chosen today's thought before DH told me his blood sugar numbers so
guess it was a case of "meant to be".....
Thought of the day :

"The only thing that ever sat its way to success was a hen."
- Sarah Brown

Question of the day :

"If you could invite anyone in the
United States to dinner who would
you invite?
What would you serve?"
-- Table Topics

Take care all!!

07-20-2003, 08:38 AM
I refuse to be a :chicken:! Great quote today, Kaylets! How did your training go? Sorry to hear about the trouble with DS. Frustrating, isn't it, to want to strangle them at times? ;)

Scooby, glad you're back! Climb on board the wagon, we've installed shoulder belts!

Punkin, great idea to donate hair to Locks of Love. I understand why your mom doesn't want you to shave your head even though you would do anything to support her. Glad the dizziness is nothing serious. Congrats on the fabulous loss!

Metta, congrats on 30lbs lost!!! :encore:

Arabella, I'm jealous! A day on the beach on PEI! No, it doesn't look like I'll get there this year. :no: But I will eventually, and we will definitely get together!

Eydie, good for you on standing up to the toxic co-worker! It's hard to do when you know you still have to work with them every day. Hope she got the message loud and clear.

zadie, were you eating frozen bananas in chocolate? :T They're yummy, and actually not so bad for you.

Anagram, ceara, frogger...how goes it?

I did a fresh start yesterday and also joined Amarantha in the 21-Day Challenge. Seemed I'd gotten off track with my workout schedule and sometimes eating OP and sometimes not. So, the beauty of all this being that we can start over anytime we want, I did! Had a good Day 1, and know I can tackle Day 2!

Here's to us! :cheers:


07-20-2003, 10:24 AM
Hi Wildfire-

Yes, you are so right-- Start fresh anytime we like and we're never behind... don't have to "catch up" -just start right where we are...

As for who I 'd have for dinner-

How about - ALL OF YOU!!
And lets see..... what would we have--
First for starters-- A monster salad, and how about some sword fish w/ mustard sauce and/or Tofu w/ the same mustard - and grilled sweet potatoes and lots of other grilled vegs-- portabellas,etc. But appetizers would be nice.... and dessert too... hmmm....let me put some more thought into this...

Time to start some laundry...

zadie k
07-20-2003, 02:57 PM
Hello All,
I am truely flakey right now re: time I get to log on to the internet. Less then 10 days till the bar. I am starting to get very stressed. I am a stress eater, so it is two different forces at war with eachother, stress eating versus trying to stay on the plan. I am doing better than I expected, but not too great. Watched 48 hours yesterday and it was all about weight so I am a little more on track today.

So, a friend of mine is thinking of doing something that I consider really stupid, aka cheating on husband. I know she does not want advice or a lecture but in this particular situation it would be really bad. The guy is someone from our coffee shop and it would screw up her marriage (which is happy) plus it would screw up the dynamic at our hangout. I think this idea may be an outgrowth from graduation and moving on from that inot something else that is unknown.

well, gotta run.

07-20-2003, 04:07 PM
Yo! Drive by postie on way to couch!!! :cb: If I could have anyone to dinner, I think it'd be great to have the kindred spirits from this board! :wave:

Hope everyone is doing as well this Sunday as I am!!! My challenges and foodwatch are going well (calorie wise, if not the best choices). I'm wearing my smaller jeans. I am ignoring the looming of a difficult workday tomorrow.

Zadie: Good luck on the bar exam! Sad about your friend, but as you've already noted, she probably isn't in the market for advice right now. It's hard to be silent sometimes, though, isn't it? Good luck on that as well.

Punkin: :wave: Keep on truckin' ...

To all mentioned and unmentioned, Avanti!

07-21-2003, 07:48 AM
Hello all!

Zadie- I can relate w/ the friend issue- very tough to stay silent-
very hard to see our friends move in a direction where we totally disagree. In fact, I might say that much -- but then again, I don't know without being there.

Empress- Congrats on small size! Know that must have made your day!

So, here we go Monday, here we go!
Come on now, a little louder...


I know what you're thinking... Monday's are the worst! I know, I know, wouldnt it be great if...
But, when I look at it this way... How many Monday's do I have left?? Do I really want to waste one by just having a negative attitude??
I remember not that long ago, how I would ruin most of Sunday dreading Monday. "I'm always tired, hungover, rushed, hungry, ......."
You name it, I had a reason to drag thru Monday.
And ruin most of Sunday complaining that Monday was coming.
-- Somewhere the expression " Life is not a dress rehersal " found me and it hit the bullseye!

Sure, I still think Monday would be so much better if I was...... but I sure am glad to have a job. I have learned there is one guaranteed way NOT to have a hangover and that mornings start off better if you do what you can the night before. And sometimes, when Monday's are getting the best of me, I try to imagine how'd I feel in the same situation if it was Thursday or Friday.

So.... are you ready... HERE WE GO MONDAY, HERE WE GO!!

Thought of the day :

"It's never too late to start an adventure"

Question of the day :

"How do you feel when you shop for new clothes?"
-- Table Topics


Gotta run- have the best day all!

Healthier than I've been in years and it really is starting to show- physically and mentally!

07-21-2003, 08:58 AM
Good Morning All! Forgive the short posts this week as I need to get all my work done here at work so I can get out on time to finish packing up the house. We have most things packed but there are those few 'odd' items that you can't find a box to fit it in etc.

Just wanted to say that low carb is deffinatly paying off this time around. I haven't weighed yet this week, but I will let you guys know.

OK gotta jet. Hugs to you all!

Cerise-WALK WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-21-2003, 11:24 AM
HI All
Thanks so much for your support..i am doing much better then friday. Your posts help me so much!

Pumpkinseed you are so strong and im sure you mom thanks god for you every day!

Kaylet - my brother was doing toastmasters. Is that where you give speeches and learn how to communicate better? Thanks for the warm welcome back.

Wildfire im climbing thanks for the invite! I saw you joined the 21 day challenge ... It so much fun to read posts of people that you now.

You know mondays arent so bad for me. I really hate sundays. So if you hate sundays im really happy when its monday! Odd i know!

Well if i could have anyone over for dinner...the board can come but we need some eye candy...mel gibson, pete bronson, aerosmith, ben afflict, anyone else think of any eye candy that i should invite? Eye candy is good low in calorie. :)
Oh yea and the hot guy from the practice...mmmm
and Will from will and grace...oh and Ross from friends....god this morning is good!

Talk to u later

07-21-2003, 01:40 PM
Hello wonderful ladies!

Just a quick post. I am going through my garage and throwing away sooo much stuff! It is actually very hard. I am somewhat of a pack rat. I remember who gave me something and for what occasion and can't get rid of it.Well, NO more! I am "on program" if you will to clean out everything that: doesn't fit, don't like, not my taste anymore, haven't needed in the past year, etc! Not to mention I am workin' up a sweat, I figure I can count it as exercise :strong:

Anyway, I am doing great on excercise, water and vitamins. Actual food is ok, I have been eating more fruit. My goal this week is to see a new number on the scale, have been up and down the last few weeks and I am tired of it!

Good luck to all of you today!


07-21-2003, 01:42 PM
Monday, Monday, Monday.... How I loathe thee....

Actually, my view on Monday is that you have to live through one every week if you want to have a Friday and weekend. My Mondays generally aren't that bad, it's just hard when you feel like you haven't had a break in months (or in my case it not only feels like there's been no break - there really has been NO BRAKE!). :faint:

Had an awsome 4 pound loss going on Saturday - then by Monday morning somewhere I'd found 3 pounds. I still have a loss of 1.2, but... I believe it was the combination of 100 degree temps, sitting outside watching the draft horse show with very little water (bathrooms were gross) and Saturday night's taco ring (Mom's pre-chemo craving). So, salt, sun and dehydration... eh, I'll get the loss back later this week. :yes:

Scooby, I'm glad you're feeling better than you did on Friday. We're always here to pull you back up!

Kaylets, so much about your DS reminds me of my brother. Ditto on DH's change. My brother turned around when the parental figures finally quit accepting that "he gets in trouble, that's just him" and put their foot down. Until that point he had no reason to *not* be the way he was - there were no consequences. Once the hammer fell, and they literally kicked him out and forced him to work, be responsible or be homeless, he turned things around. I can't believe he's the same person that he was back then... I actually *like* him now!
Oh, and you dinner sounds divine! I've never had swordfish but it sounds so foo-foo and yummy! :T

Wildfire, I found out Locks Of Love requires the ponytail to be 10 inches long. :eek: I'm going to be lookin' like a Yetti long after Mom's done with all her treatment!!! :lol:

Zadie, you've got stress on a couple different levels. Good luck and a "go get 'em" on your bar exam! As for your friend, the hardest thing to do is sit back and watch someone you care for make a huge mistake. All you can do is be there for her when it all hits the fan.

Empress Amarantha, :queen: of smaller clothes, I bow to thee....

Frogger, :cp: on staying low carb, I tried but I guess I love my bread too much for the sacrifice... Good luck on "scale day"!

Q o' the day~
How do I feel when shopping for clothes?? Depends on the store more than anything. Even at my largest shopping was ok IF the store had my size - then it's just a matter of "it fits, I'm huge, but it fits". Not finding a thing is nothing short of depressing. Being smaller now, and teetering between plus sizes and a large I'm looking forward to our own Bo-Beena taking me on my first trip to The Avenue next week so I can buy some clothes that fit me!!!! :cb:

Friday, after all my Mom's hair ordeal, my hairdresser's mouth dropped open and she said "you've lost a lot of weight!" and wondered aloud why she didn't notice a month ago when I was last there. I told her it was because of the clothes I was wearing - too big - so you can't see the loss (I did wear something that fit on Friday). I can add her to the list of people telling me I need to buy clothes that FIT. :lol:

So, next week, California, The Avenue, Bo-Beena, me n' my credit card... I promise not to buy anything that has a crotch hangin' down to my thighs, or 3 sizes too big because it's 'comfy' - I can be comfy in MY size! :yes:

Toodles for now,

07-21-2003, 07:44 PM
Frogger, where are you in your packing? Are you down to the bare essentials with everything else packed up? I dislike moving so much that I'll probably just stay put for the rest of my natural days! It'll be so great when you feel all settled in.

Scooby, you sound good! Glad you feel better.

Bo-Beena, I love to de-junk--I need to do it again. Amazing how things can accumulate again.

Zadie, sending you the good stuff for your exam.:goodvibes :goodvibes :goodvibes

Amarantha, Gotta love those smaller sizes!

Punkin, even if you lost "only" 1.2, you're still so ahead of the game! Hey, I want to declare something to you: I have an old ponytail [mine!] that I just rediscovered in the basement, and it's long [can't believe I had hair that long!!] and I'm going to send it to Locks of Love in honor of your mom and you. I've been meaning to do it for YEARS and you're spurring it on. So there, I've said it publicly so off it goes. I'll send you a pic of me with the 'scalp' just before I send it off!;)

Kaylets--about ? of the day. I really dislike shopping for clothes--bad memories, I guess. There was a time when I'd leave the store in tears 'cause I couldn't find anything.:( Not so bad now, tho I'm still floored when I find something I love!

Greetings, Anagram, Cerise, Ceara, Dollar, Wildfire, Arabella, and all!

zadie k
07-21-2003, 08:36 PM
Just a quick stop in to see how all goes with everyone. Did not get a chance to weigh this morning and may just opt not to till after the bar. I can only handle so much.

QOD: pretty good recently. I just got into a size 10 at the limited (as opposed to a size 10 in expensive clothing where it means something a little different). Feels great. I do remember when I went shopping the first time I was up to a size 14. I was so angry at myself and the world. Now I am much better at taking things in stride.

Well, my firend when to dinner with the guy. She is being very evasive about it all. Her husband is back in town next week and her son gets back from his grandparents the week after, so maybe it will all blow over. Hopefully.

At any rate, must dash. I have wills and sales to learn. Super yuck.

07-22-2003, 01:32 AM
Good Evening ladies!
Just thought I would pop in. I am in a particularly good mood today(yes, I KNOW, it is monday!) I think it is because I am doing well in alot of areas of my life. De-cluttering is so good for me(Can you believe Punkin and I are best friends-HEHE) My house isn't dirty just filled with all kinds of things I might need "some day". Well, slowly but surely it will be clutter-free :dance: and my punkin has been my mentor is this dept( and of course wgt loss)

Yes, Eydie, isn't it a great feeling to get rid stuff :smug:

Frogger, how is the moving going? I hope you find a job closer to your new home. I used to have to commute(not as bad as yours) I just hated it. About 2 years ago, I got a new job less than 10 minutes from home. I LOVE it! In the meantime, try listening to books on tape or your favorite cds to pass the time. Good luck!

Zadie, sending :goodvibes: your way for your exam. Sorry about the friend, that is worst thing you can do to your spouse. Hopefully she will realize what is at stake before it goes to far.

Kaylets, sorry about the trouble with DS. Hopefully he will learn from this and not get in any worse trouble.

Cerise, going back a few days but had to comment on your posing for the artists, I can tell you are very outgoing however, you have taken that to brand new heights! It says a lot about your self image that you were able to do that. So I just wanted to say Kudos to you.

Yes, Punkin and I are going shopin' no more baggy a** clothes for her. I don't care if she shrinks outta of 'em in a few months I am making her get ones that fit (So there! :p )

Hello to all I missed! Gonna try to say on top of our posts, it only takes a few days to get behind. See ya tomorrow :wave:


07-22-2003, 06:55 AM
Hello all!!

The clutter vs no clutter discussion.... I too am a collector-- I enjoy the 'lived in' feeling. I suspect, its like smoking though-- you don't realize how it effects your life until you stop. Collections demand space, dusting, etc,etc. But when they bring a smile to your face... how can you resist!

Hope everyone is doing ok with our many life challenges.... we are doing the best we can !!
Today's thought is :

"The purpose of life, after all, is to live it"
-- Eleanor Roosevelt
Question of the day:

"Should a foriegn language be required in grade school?"
--Table Topics


Take care all!

07-22-2003, 07:22 AM
Extending a mini-challenge to everyone this week---anybody up for it? I know you are!;)

Just this: to try something new!!! A form of exercise you've never done before, or to take something you already do a bit farther [or is that furthur? oh well...] Or try a different food, some exotic grain, some cuisine you've never tried, that weird spiky fruit you always see in the market, etc. [Just make it healthy, of course!:D ]

Last week, I tried kundulini yoga. I did it 2 one-hour videos and it was challenging and I'm still sore from it but I liked it and will do it again. This week I'm going to do a balance ball video and see how I like that. I get such a feeling of accomplishment from getting out of my comfort zone and branching out! You'll never know if you don't try....

Kaylets, what do you collect? DH and I are addicted to books--it's become kind of a joke with our friends. They're everywhere in every room--we need floor-to-ceiling shelving!
About ? of the day: yes, I think foreign languages should be required in grade schools. I'm speaking as one who never learned a foreign language and wish that I had.

07-22-2003, 07:30 AM
Eydie- heard the mail come in as I was ironing and couldnt resist!
I'm up for the challenge! I'm not sure what it will be but DH and I did buy those 10 speed bikes.... I 've never rode a 10 spd b/4- just a 3 spd and that was years ago-- or maybe...

As for food... yes, DH and I did try Papaya on Sunday but since we are supposed to be trying 2 new things... We
ve got one more to try...
This will be fun!

07-22-2003, 07:57 AM
Hi All!!

We are down to the bare minimum. It's crazy. Meals are prepared uniquely as most of my pots and pans are put away. It's amazing what you can do in a saucepan. LOL

Trying to figure out if I should go ahead and rent a u-haul truck. We can get everything in one swoop instead of trying drive 35 miles back and forth in a pickup and cars. I don't know. Expensive though.

Down 2 lbs. :cb: I cheated and got on the scale this morning (regualar weigh in is friday mornings) But I looked thinner to me in the mirror, so I had to see if I was imagining. Happy news for today!

07-22-2003, 08:21 AM
Good morning. LDLs.

Mom still in hospital an hour and a half away. Also got to take overnighter with dh to attend friend's bd party. Big weekend for him to finally get back to his hometown, etc.

Anyway, have been in car more than not it seems so will have to catch up on good news in all the posts I've only hurriedly scanned.

So nice to read of all your strengths and determinations. Helps me to hold on right now. Not been really bad on food but probably won't lose until things settle down. Exercise has been limited but plan to make pool today for workout. Water's been decent though. And no binges. Just not always the best food choices while travelling, etc.

But I'M HEALTHIER THAN I'VE BEEN IN YEARS. And had a pretty good Monday and starting out for a pretty good Tuesday (if I can pull me away from this machine). :cheers:

07-22-2003, 08:46 AM
Good morning, Lovely Ones!

Thank you so much for the birthday greetings -- they really made me feel loved! :)

I'm in recovery mode from the BDay sugar. I think that I should start to realize that it often takes me several days to recover (sometimes several days to stop eating sugar again :() I get that yucky sugar hangover and I don't feel well until I get the stuff out of my system. So that's what I'm working on. I think I'll have a look at the Sugar Buster Web site to refresh my memory.

I have got a new bike on the way :cb: :cp: So that will be one new exercise thing. It does seem like a little challenge to me, since it's been a while since I was on one. I also want to commit to yoga at least 3X a week and tai chi at least another 3X. Makes me feel SO much better :yes: Oh, yes, I decided yesterday to commit to 15 mins on the cross trainer along with my 3X a week circuit training, and running another 3X. Wow. That should do it!

I can't stay today. I'm going to do yoga and go for a little run, and then I have two intensive 4-5 hour assignments, so for the sake of my bod I should stay away from this contraption as much as I can in my off time.

Sorry for the me-me-meness! I just wanted to report in, at least. Let's make this a great day! Love to All :love:

07-22-2003, 12:10 PM
Hello dahlings....

It's been a stressful week and it's only Tuesday... I can't wait for the next couple days to pass work-wise for things to settle down a bit. It just seems like everyone's on edge and testy about really stupid things and those that aren't mad about something seem to have taken a stupid pill.... :dz:

Eydie, I'm so moved by your sending in your ponytail! That is SO cool!
I'm with ya on the new exercise or food to try, I just have to figure out what I want to experiment with.... :chin:

Zadie, I think you're right to only take on one battle at a time. Right now your bar is more important than anything. I'll continue to keep my fingers crossed that it all blows over with your friend once it becomes more difficult for her to stray (w/ hubby and son back).

Bo-Beena!!!! :wave: You have to admit that I'm decluttered mostly because I don't have a husband and daughter to contend with! I can control *my* messes easily, but if I had to control others???? Well, you saw the house when I lived in CA... :rolleyes: C'mon, I had to step over a motorcycle engine to make my bed!

Frogger, congrats girl on kickin' the 2 :dance: :dance: 's to the curb!

Anagram, my continued thoughts for Mom. The distance has got to be making it even more difficult. I'm glad you had a little getaway with DH.

Arabella, you and Wildfire and starting to make me want a new bike now! It would probably be cheaper to buy a new one than fix my old (needs new seat, chains, wheels, tires, etc...). It would be fun to bike around here - I'd need a mountain bike though for all the unpaved roads!

I really want to pick back up on my yoga too. They did a study on yoga's effect on women with breast cancer and they found that they had less side effects from treatment and felt better about themselves during treatment. It decreased the amount of depression and nausea they were experiencing too. Amazing how something so fun can be so beneficial!

Q o' the day ~
Foreign languages in grade school.... now I know "grade school" means different things in different areas - where I'm from grade school covers grades K-6 - in which case I'd say yes. Learning another language when you're that young is a great idea. That's when I learned sign (technically another language) and I've retained a LOT more of that than the French I was required to take in high school.

Well ladies, I'm outta here for now. Time to get ta' work.... :blah:

07-22-2003, 12:18 PM
Congratulations on the loss, frogger! And Punkin too - any loss is a good one.

Arabella, I can relate on the sugar blahs. I had forgotten how long it takes for the tiredness to go away after eating too much sugar, but I'm feeling it this week.

Eydie, I am a great collector of books, too. I move house often, so I never have any excess clutter. I can't get rid of books, though, ever... even if it means carting boxes and boxes every time I move.

I'm up for trying something new... I'll have to think about what it's going to be, though. I think I might go run the bike path near my house... I've been wanting to do that and putting it off for ages.

I'm planning to go shopping for clothes that actually fit this weekend, too. I've been holding off doing it for a while, not wanting to shrink out of new clothes. My situation is getting dire, though, I have only one pair of pants that stay up and don't make me look like a clown. Heh.

I'm half-on, half-off program right now. My eating is okay, I've exercised a bit, but not as much as I'd like. I want to do better for the rest of the week.

Oh, and as for the question of the day: I took French all through school and learned almost nothing. It took living in Paris to finally make me haul out my grammar textbook and pay attention. I like the fact that it's part of the mandatory curriculum here, but I can't say the teachers I had were very effective. I think it's tough to find fluent teachers for public schools.

Have a good day, everyone!

07-22-2003, 02:14 PM
Hope everyone is having an on program day. Mine has started out well so we will see if I can continue.

QOD: I think kids should be taught another lang. in grade school. I think you retain it much more. I had a combination class in kindergarten, spanish/english, I still remembered a lot when I took it in Jr. High.

Eydie, I will try something new this week, gonna have to think on it.

Frogger, I know it is costs money to rent a truck but how much will your gas and time cost you? Don't make it too hard on yourself and hubby. :cp: :cb: congrats on the wgt loss!

Arabella, sorry your going through the sugar blahs, I hate that. Glad you had a great :hb: A new bike, is this a new trend? I actually bought a bike a few years ago that needed a little work. Of course, the work didn't get done and I still haven't ridden it. Maybe it is time to dust it off. Oh and how do you have time to do anything with all that excercise?? What an inspiration you are :strong:

Oh, Punkin, I had forgotten all about the car parts in the bedroom, isn't that romantic? Some interesting facts about yoga. Maybe that can be my something new this week. I have yoga tapes, I did them once or twice but found it hard to do what they were saying without looking-sometimes hard to look at TV when you are in positions, any suggestions?

Metta & Eydie, I love books also, lots of other things too but I really have a hard time of letting go of books.
Metta, I am glad you are buying some clothes that fit. You have worked hard so show it off :dance:

Anagram, sending :goodvibes: for your mom.

Have an inspired day!


07-22-2003, 09:29 PM
It's cool that so many of us are up for the 'try something new' challenge. Can't wait to see what you come up with!

I'm trying to avoid a mini-meltdown here---trying to keep my wits about me, etc. Most of the time I feel good about my progress and my body, but today I caught a glimpse of myself at a very unflattering angle or something, and just felt like all my efforts are for nothing. I know what you're all thinking--"think of the health benefits"! And that's certainly true, but I really was hoping to lose some of the cellulite along the way!!! Know what I mean?
This too shall pass.....I'M HEALTHIER THAN I'VE EVER BEEN [even when I was a skinny 20-year-old]!
Ahhh, I feel better already. You guys are good!

Arabella, how was your party? Sorry about the sugar hangover. I know what you mean about it taking a few days to get back on track. I'm always compelled to have a little 'hair of the dog' for a few days after.

Zadie, it's really hard to watch a friend doing something so crazy. I've had to go thru that with a few people---it's like their brains have vacated their bodies, they're not thinking rationally. Really weird to watch it happening.

Metta, running the bike path sounds great!

Punkin and Bo-Beena, are you guys going to work out together when you visit? Maybe a little belly dancing?! I'm so jealous--that's going to be a party for sure!

Anagram, the woman who never slows down! It's my sincere hope that you have some downtime soon.

Frogger, just my 2 cents: I'd rent the truck!

Kaylets, I haven't said it lately---I appreciate your quote and question of the day. It's always a great start to the morning!

Good night, dear ones!

07-22-2003, 11:00 PM
Even'n All!

QOD yup. None of the languages I studied did me any harm. Latin surely did help me with the French, which had been greek to me before I figured out declensions. I kinda object to the mandated stuff we do up here...what a way to encourage anglo children to hate French anything...except fries of course...and actually defused some of that when I taught in Alberta.

Sumpthin new...I'm having trouble keeping up with the Old!! If I am inspired I will pass it on though. Made a cool salad on Sunday...chopped tomatoes, cucumber, chick peas, black sliced olives, feta cheese, green pepper with greek salad dressing on it...was good!! Needed some fresh green onions though. It doesn't count as new though:(, cause I like and often eat all those...just not combined that way. :) :)

Anyhow, thanks for the fresh start card Kaylets! Am even considering a Journal :o maybe. New strategy for not eating...put in some perennials (I just won't eat with mud on my hands!), came in, washed, went online with a few grapes in hand. Am off to get some water and head for the tub...feel grimy from swatting bugs...darn things. Guess they are a sign of a healthy environment, although I don't know just for who.

So one day under the belt.

I think I feel healthier ;)


07-23-2003, 08:28 AM
Hi all!!

We actually decided to rent a U-haul for the move. Swayed in part because our 'friends' that we packed up and moved (remember them) are "busy" that day and cannot help us move. They've known about the move date for over a month now and volunteered to help us move that day. I knew this would happen. WHAT THE :censored: EVER... :mad:

Anyway, doing good on the low carb. Actually, I have just cut out all bread and pasta (and cereal) but am really not counting carbs per say. I have beefed up the veggie intake though. I'm just not eating corn or many peas ( I love peas though...) And I can't seem to get away from eating fruit. I have it in the morning for breakfast. A bananna and an apple. But I can't complain, I've lost 6lbs in a week and a half. So must be doing something right.

I fixed mom and hubby spagetti with meat sauce last night. I had steamed spinach with the meatsauce over it and a little mozarella cheese. You should try it! It reminded me of lasagna without the noodles. I think I may even add a spoonful of ricatta cheese next time to make it even more like lasagna.

Enough about me... How is everyone today?

07-23-2003, 09:32 AM
Hello all!

Lots going on today and we are getting heavy storms- Flood warnings in some places.... But its still Wonderful Me Wednesday!
Thought of the day--
[About the past] "The way I see it, you can either run from
it, or learn from it."
-- Rafikki to Simba in Disney's The Lion King

Question of the day:
When you have something you really dislike for dinner, how do you feel?"
--Table Topics


On a less cheeful note, DH recvd a phone call from a "check guarantee place" yesterday. They were trying to collect on a check written from a closed account. DH asked LOTS of questions and only told them at the end of the call that they were really looking for DS. So... this is getting very tense . If these folks decide to press charges too....

take care all

07-23-2003, 10:04 AM
Fly-by! I was slaving until after 11 last night and have another conference call to do in an hour, and then another assignment later so I must run. Just wanted to say :wave: Tomorrow I should be able to visit a bit.

Have a great day!

07-23-2003, 12:00 PM
Finally Wednesday.... this awful week is half over.

Yesterday was awful in ways I can't even begin to explain publicly. I'll probably journal about it later... this world can be one fouled up place. Mom's fine, it's not about any of that, thank goodness, but it's official - my life's now a freakin' soap opera. :rolleyes:

Hotter than Hades yesterday... I thought I saw a :devil: hiding behind the tree thinking he was home! 102 yesterday, the same today... with 20% humidity I've had NO problem drinking all my water (and then some!). I even got up early this morning to hop on the elliptical for 20 minutes since it didn't cool down last night until 9pm - too late to exercise....

Metta, I'm all for learning a language by immersion - I'm thinkin' a trip to Italy juuuuust might be a necessity!

Bo-Beena :wave: See you next week baaaabeeeee! :cb:

Eydie, you *know* we're most critical of ourselves. I'm glad you're feeling better about your glimps - always remember you're doing worlds of good for yourself in ways you'll never be able to see. When you're 85 and out gardening and feeling great I'm going to email you and remind you of all the things you did to accomplish that - and none of 'em could you see in a mirror. (off soapbox now!)
As for bellydancing with Bo-Beena :chin: Ya never know what I may talk her in to.... Hip drops everyone!!!!!

Ceara, your salad sounds delish!!! I wish I would cook like that for myself. I just don't seem to take the time...

Frogger, ok, I'll say this as nicely as possible - never, ever do anything for those "friends" again. They knew for a month and they're busy when you not only helped them move, but PACK too!?!?!?!? Uh, no, not cool....
You're doing great on low carb - 6 pounds in a week n' a half? Awsome! :cb: And your idea of putting 'sghetti sauce on spinach like lasagna w/o noodles sounds really 'nummy :T

Kaylets, flooding? It was 102 here yesterday!!! I'll send you a virtual liferaft! :rain: Sounds like things may be hitting the fan with DS soon, those check cashing places don't just go away...

:wave: Arabella!

Where's WSW? Dollar? Our newbies?? Come on back everyone!!!

Q o' the day ~
Really hard to answer since I'm cooking just for myself so I always like what I'm making!

Toodles everyone...

07-23-2003, 12:48 PM
Good noon all!

Am half way through the second day.....must start glugging though...coffee doesn't count I hear.

QOD...funny. I can't think of anything I don't like! Except for fish with bones in it....they are a real turn off. I suppose I would feel unsatisfied and likely eat something horridly bad for me...Hmmm Thought-provoking.

Have had a busy morning and the rest of the day looks similar. So will just mosey on my way....thinkin' of you guys. Am off to make a little black bean soup and head back to the grindstone!


07-23-2003, 01:07 PM
Frogger, congrats on dropping an amazing 6 pounds! And 'boo, hiss!' to those folks who squirmed out of helping you move. I'm sure there was a part of you that saw that coming.

Ceara, your salad sounds great. I try to keep one of those sectioned covered trays full of cut-up vegetables for making quick salads. I've recently tried fat-free feta---it's surprisingly good. Someone here told me about it---was it Kaylets?

Kaylets, about the ? du jour: When I don't get what I want to eat, I feel very unsatisfied and "prowly", I start looking for something else to eat!

Punkinseed, hang on, baby! Friday's coming!

Thanks for checking in, Arabella! Now where's Amarantha?

For the "Try Something New" challenge, I did a balance ball video. It was fun--I didn't do it perfectly by any means and I think I need a smaller ball.
Today's been a great workout day for me. I started out the day with 30 min. of bellydancing, a sun salutation--and later I did 40 min. Of tae bo, and the 30 min. balance ball video. And tonight I have a yoga class. Now I have to make sure that my food intake is good too!

07-23-2003, 09:25 PM
I'm kinda lost on the threads, but here!!! :s: I guess my everyday something new is that I haven't given up on the 21-dayer so far, when the ol' me would've crashed and burned!!!!

Eydie: The personal trainer I'm working with keeps trying to get me to do the ball thing. I just seem to have an aversion to it ... reminds me of gym class and people laughing at me!!! :) Is it fun?

Frogger: Amazing how your "friends" managed to have something to do when it came time to repay your helping them move.

Re all our skirmishes with fair weather friends and our comings and goings and bad feelings and good feelings, sometimes expressed here over the years, I'm taking a risk and referring everyone to a quote I seem to be posting everywhere these days because it resonants so strongly with me whenever I think about it. I have it posted on my refrigerator, as a matter of fact. It is by Mother Teresa and is underpinned by a certain specific religious orientation, so I won't post it in its entirety here and hope no one finds this inappropriate or offensive, it's just something that helps me in situations such as Frogger has to cope with at the moment. The religion warranted is not one that I personally espouse, but I find this quote amazingly comforting and wise and any diety of any gender or facet or spiritual force could be substituted for the last line, which I'm not posting. It begins this way, but there's lots more:

"People are often unreasonable, illogical or self-centered, forgive them anyway.

"If you are successful, you will be sure to make some false friends and some true enemies. Be successful anyway.

"If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you. Be honest and frank anyway.

"What you spend years building, someone could destroy over night. Build anyway.

"If you find serenity and happiness, others may be jealous. Be happy anyway. ........... ~ Mother Teresa


07-23-2003, 09:46 PM
Just a quick skim of the posts, my my you've been a busy bunch!

Having a really busy week and just no time for a proper visit! Friday is coming, though!

Metta, just noticed you are in Hamilton. I'm in Burlington! We should meet up sometime.

Amarantha, GREAT quotes. I'm going to print them out.

Arabella, you got a bike for your b-day? Whoo hoo! :dancer: I hope you enjoy it as much as I am mine.

Gotta dash, laundry is calling.


07-23-2003, 11:44 PM
Hey, cool, Wildfire! Neat to run into someone who lives so close. :)

Frogger, your progress sounds inspiring. I'm contemplating going back to a low-carb diet myself... not Atkins, but cutting out grains and sugar for a while. I did so well with weight loss when I was eating that way before. I got out of it because I felt kind of tired when I was working out, and I was almost losing too quickly... but that's a problem I wouldn't mind having again. Heh.

I just can't bring myself to commit to it. I've been having a bad week food-wise, but I've decided to wait until the end of the week, and then depending on what the scale says, I may talk myself into low-carbing again.

Anyway, hello to everyone whose posts I've read and missed commenting on. It's tough to find the time to respond properly to everyone.

07-24-2003, 06:57 AM
Hello all!

Almost Friday!!

Our A/C seems to be only blowing air-- We're in a high humidity type of heat wave-- Any bets on how long before the A/C people
can get here??

And frankly, have no idea how to pay for the repair unless its cheap. Have to polish up the credit card I guess.

Punkin- have not read your journal but don't forget you can ALWAYS come here to vent.

Empress- thanks for the quote- Used to know the title but realize right now it escapes me. Sometimes it seems easier to rebuild than forgive don't you think?

To everyone-- take care--
Today's thought is:
"Always take the scenic route"

Question of the day is:
"Is it Friday yet?"

07-24-2003, 07:43 AM
Still flying by. I got another surprise assignment yesterday, so I've got to go-go-go. I AM going to do yoga and go for a run though, in between jobs. :cp: :cp:

So many things I want to respond to, but if I did I would be digging myself into a hole I couldn't get out of gracefully! Tomorrow I'll have a little time, for sure!

Love to all!

07-24-2003, 08:13 AM
Good Morning All!

RE: Our 'friends'. I honestly can take them or leave them. They are the laziest 2 people I have ever met. I was not surprised that there was some excuse. But we have just bought a house, so nothing can get me down!! :dancer:

Cheated again with the weigh in. Lost another lb! I'm now at 215. I may just live to see myself under 200 again!! I'm so excited. Only 15 more lbs. Official weigh in is tommorow morning though. So we shall see.... Trying to have an ultra low carb day today. I never realized that banannas have so many carbs. Goodbye for today my yummy jungle fruit. :wave:

Punkin-I'm sorry to hear of your troubles. Remember, a brighter day comes soon. We love you! Vent away dear.

Kaylets-Yuck, I hate a muggie house. Can't sleep, can't move. :crossed: that the A/C man comes soon!!

Metta-That's all I'm doing. Making an effort to cut out the breads and the like. I'm not smart enough to figure out all the carbs - fiber crap. I obviously get enough fiber, ;) and I'm obviously doing something right cuz I'm losing. Good luck with what you decide on!

Amarantha-Thanks for the quote. That about sums my attitude up towards these ninnyheads.

Cerise!!!! Cerise darling where ya b? Still unpacking? Remember, packing/unpacking counts as exercise!

To everyone I've forgotten, have a great friday-eve!

07-24-2003, 08:41 AM
I join in the "quickie" post club again. So many things I want to comment on - so little time. Mom still in hospital, seems to be failing but she's a strong person and these things are always uncertain. So while I can't get into all I'd like, I'm here for my dose of LDL support.

Such wisdom from M. Teresa. Such simple direction but such a guide to living for your own inner self. Thanks.

Kaylets, such crushing news! Hang on and be strong.

Something new? Can't even think of anything new to try right now though there are lots of things. The best I can manage is that we picked up our new car this week. A Camry. Not exercise/diet related but it's what pops in when I put "new" into my mental search engine.

I have given me a Bye card at the moment, just trying not to go sweet happy, etc. and given my circumstances, feel I've been doing ok. I'm leaning towards going low carb for a week or so once I feel I can hop back on the train. Having a slimfast this morning and it's not even Monday....Or is it? I'm somewhat foggy.

07-24-2003, 04:52 PM
3FC withdrawl!!!!! Was the site only down for me this morning?? Ack! :fr:

Well, it's summer in central Oregon! Apparently you can't officially call it summer until something's on fire.... :rolleyes: I've had a headache for 2 days now because of the nearby wildfires. Last night it honestly looked like what I picture as "****" - with the sun setting through all the smoke, it cast an odd orange, purple and pink color on everything. Very surreal looking.

Amarantha, I really liked your quote by Mother Teresa. Great wisdom and excellent advice in that quote.

:wave: Wildfire, Metta and Arabella!!!

Frogger, go you! Yes, you WILL reach Onderland!!!! :cb:

Anagram, :grouphug: I'm glad you know you can come here for support... Hang in there and check back when you can. My thoughts are with you all.

Kaylets, my condolences on the death of your a/c - hopefully it's not truly dead, but just needing a little work :crossed:. Now is the *worst* possible time for it to go though! Hopefully they'll come out before Mother Nature takes care of your cooling needs.

Thankfully tomorrow's Friday.... praying the mumz feels better - the 2nd 'round of chemo has been harder on her than the first, by far. She's still sick 4 days out and has been feeling worse each day. Hopefully she'll round the corner soon, I feel pretty darned helpless and a tad bit scared (even though I know she'll be fine). We do have our light at the end of the tunnel though! September 2nd is her LAST chemo treatment!!!! :cb:

Snuck a peek at the scale this morning (I quit punishing myself for that, why bother, it's not like I listen to myself :dz: ), and I'm at 213.2. Holy shmokes! :eek: At this rate, I'll hit my "2-oh-whatever" goal I set for Labor Day in a couple weeks! Funny and scarey all at the same time.... :^: I haven't seen this number in probably 5 years, I look at myself in the mirror and feel a little disconnected from it. Hopefully shopping for clothes will put me more in touch with my actual size, not the size I still have in my head. :yes:
Still have until Monday for the official weigh in.

Onward and downward!

07-24-2003, 09:47 PM
Is it only me or is there a totally annoying and huge Atkins ad that keeps opening up and covering the posts I am reading on this thread? I'm not on my usual computer, but that shouldn't make a difference. This isn't a banner ad, it's COVERING the thread as I read. This is going TOO far, advertisers! :no:

And, I'm not an Atkins fan anyway! :s:

Punkin, I am still crossing fingers and toes for your mom! Only a bit more to go. Sorry it's so hard. Hang in!

Congratulations on your downward scale trend. You'll be a "Onderlander" in no time!!! :cp: :yes:

Anagram: Sorry to hear your mom is in the hospital as well. Also crossing fingers and toes for a good outcome in her situation!

Kaylets: Add my condolences to the list for the bad health of your ac. The ac in this newsroom's been out all day and they just fixed it, so I can relate. It's the hottest month of the year in Arizona and I might as well have stayed in my hot house and tried to write as drive an hour and a half to sit here and try to write. Sheesh! :) Here's hoping yours gets fixed as well!

Already finished eating for the day and am about to go cover a rummage sale in the sweltering heat, then home. Don't think I'll feel like breaking my 12th day of the 21er!!!

To all, avanti! Beam me up, Scotty! :balloons:

07-25-2003, 07:36 AM
Morning all!!

It's official, my weigh in for this week (that is). 215lbs. That's a 4 lb loss. YIPPEE!!! I can't wait until onederland!

Got electric, got water, got phone for the new house. Hubby's brother will not be staying with us afterall. Couldn't keep up his end of the deal. (Had to have a job by the time we moved in). So he has to stay with his parents.

07-25-2003, 07:50 AM
Hello all!

Hope everyone is doing well on FRIDAY!!!!!
My favorite day!

The A/C man was here at 2pm yesterday and the A/C was working by 2:30-- Small part in the compresser (Sp?). Got lucky on that one.
Thought of the day:

The following article came from a newspaper and deserves to be shared to put our lives in proper perspective.

If Earth’s population was shrunk into a village of just 100 people, with all the human ratios existing in the world still remaining, what would this tiny, diverse village look like? That’s exactly what Phillip M. Harter, a medical doctor at the Stanford University School of Medicine, attempted to figure out. This is what he found:

57 would be Asian
21 would be European
14 would be from the Western Hemisphere
8 would be African
52 would be female
48 would be male
70 would be non-white
30 would be white
70 would be non-Christian
30 would be Christian
89 would be heterosexual
11 would be homosexual
6 people would possess 59% of the entire world’s wealth, and all 6 would be from the United States
80 would live in sub-standard housing
70 would be unable to read
50 would suffer from malnutrition
1 would be near death
1 would be pregnant
1 would have a college education
1 would own a computer

The following is an anonymous interpretation:

Think of it this way. If you live in a good home, have plenty to eat, can read, and have a computer, you are a member of a very select group.

And if you have a good house, food, can read, and have a computer, you are among the very elite.

If you woke up this morning with more health than illness, you are more fortunate than the million who will not survive this week.

If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture or the pangs of starvation, you are ahead of 500 million people in the world.

If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or death, you are fortunate - more than 3 million people in the world can’t.

If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead, and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of this world.

If you have money in the bank and in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace, you are among the world’s wealthiest top 8%.

If your parents are still alive and still married, you are very rare, even in the United States.

If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are truly thankful, you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.

If you can hold someone’s hand, hug them, or even touch them on the shoulder, you are blessed because you can offer a healing touch.

If you can read this message, you just received a double blessing in that someone was thinking of you, and furthermore, you are more blessed than the over 2 billion people in the world who cannot read at all.

Have a good day and count your blessings!

Hope you enjoyed that one- I've seen it before but thought it was perfect for Friday.
Take care all!

07-25-2003, 09:37 AM
Not that the number is getting that high yet, but I've been so busy. The nine fruits/veggies thing seems to be working nicely tho, and I intend to continue. Makes me feel clear-headed, even when I'm exhausted physically. Which is a very useful thing, since I do need to think sometimes... So nice to have a second to think today!

Tonight's DH's staff party. It's going to be a murder mystery dinner theatre thing, so should be fun. I've seen the menu already, and it should be fine. Mussels, lots of salad, chicken breast. I'll skip the bread and dessert and it will be all good...

Kaylets my love, what a wonderful and thought-provoking article. Reminds me that I should be very grateful for what I have instead of feeling "poor" because most of my friends have more.

My heart goes out to you and the ongoing trouble with DS. These are the kinds of things that I find almost unbearable, even beyond life-and-death issues. Somehow, in the midst of the most extreme crises, everything is clear. Maybe incredibly difficult, but somehow easier to deal with, for me anyway. I guess the hardest things for me are the ones where I don't know what to do.

I am reminded that the things we think are crises in our day-to-day are really insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

Amarantha, loved the MT quote. I think that there's wisdom in all of the world's religions. I don't agree with everything MT said, but this really resonates.

Funny how people are about religion sometimes. I remember talking to someone at one of DH's other staff parties. The subject of religious tolerance came up, and she said, in all seriousness, "Well, it really doesn't matter what religion you are as long as you're a Christian." :lol: I had a major struggle to maintain my composure. I should have started to quiz her on other religions, but I was so non-plussed I didn't think of it. Tells you a little bit about the cultural environment here...

Frogger, a fantastic new house AND steaming to Onederland! Yay for you! :cp: :cb:

Punkin, :grouphug: It must be so hard for you seeing your mom feeling so bad. We'll all celebrate when chemo's through. And you're heading to Onederland at breakneck speed too! Nothing like new clothes to help us redefine our self-perception! Whoa! Hip drops comin' at ya! Gotta get me a belly-dancing tape...

Anagram, :grouphug: to you and your mom, too. Know that we're thinking about you! I'm happy doing mostly lowish carb. Mostly really just avoiding the bad carbs, and eating either no bread or heavily grainy bread.

Wildfire, bike hasn't arrived yet, but I'm so looking forward to it! Funny hearing people talking about "wildfires" this time of year and having both good and bad responses to the word! My word-association self thinks that Wildfires all over the place would not be such a bad thing...

Eydie, I can't begin to tell you how touched I was by your birthday message to me (i know this goes back a bit!). It meant so much to me. A wonderful gift! Thank you. And I could send you the same message right back, too.

Oh ye who are missing, ye are also missed! Please tell us how you are! Let's make this a great day - love to all!

07-25-2003, 11:44 AM
Fly by postie....

Wanted to post the picture of my wall before it disappears again. It's an ooooold disk and for some reason it keeps deleting itself... :dz:

So here's the Great Wall of Punkin! :encore:

07-25-2003, 12:01 PM
Beeeeeyootiful, Punkin! :D

07-25-2003, 06:37 PM
Happy Friday afternoon! :cb:

Thank you Arabella! The cat that's draped herself over the dark orange chair is Maia - she likes that chair.

Well, Mom's feeling better - amazing how it all turns around overnight. We've been busy today making potato salad, trimming kitty nails, and just visiting now that she feels better that I'm just *now* at 2pm, getting to post!

Frogger, congratulations!!!! 4 pounds gone! :dance: watch 'em dance away....

Kaylets, nice to hear you're cooler already and that it wasn't a huge fix needed.
I love your post today. I'd seen it awhile back, but it's always an eye opener to realize just how blessed we all really are. When 9/11 hit I was 99% through the house buying process and it dawned on me just how lucky I am - to be a single female with my own income, property and a home that is my *mine* and no one else's - when in other countries just being female would make ME the property. Yep, I know I'm blessed.

Arabella, I'm so impressed with your 9 servings of fruits n' veggies. Something to aspire to for sure! :yes:

Have an excellent weekend everyone!!!

:queen: Punkin o' Friday :bubbles:

07-25-2003, 10:07 PM
Today Mom was transferred to a nursing home. It's supposed to be temporary and for rehab. But I dunno.....

It's a nice place. RN sister works there and had all so well coordinated that it went fairly smoothly. Mom, of course, didn't want to go - who does? But she had always told us that when it was time for her to do it, she would. And she did, very graciously. Still, overall, not a good day.

07-26-2003, 12:15 AM
Anagram, I know how hard this day must have been for you! Been there! Hang in! It'll get better! :wave:

07-26-2003, 12:33 AM
Hmmm, two in a row? Why not! :) Arabella, just reread your post. What a funny quote from the staff party! Unfunny though is how that rings so true with me, as I know many people who would agree with the statement. :tired:

I don't agree with everything Mother Teresa said either, although I do find her one of the wisest of wise crones (and that's said with the utmost respect). Re religion, it seems to me that they are all one at bottom, they are just dressed up differently.

For me, the MT quote (especially the last line, which I did not post) has nothing to do with religion, though its words are couched in religious symbolism, which, of course, to MT were not symbols but concrete reality.

To me, this quote, which is really a poem, I think, is sort of like a severing spell that when I think about it really helps me daily in putting many things in perspective.

Hmmm. I seem to be rambling, as is my wont!

Braindead! Beam me up, Scotty! (I'm saying that a lot lately). :balloons:

07-26-2003, 08:12 AM
Anagram-- So sorry about what you're going thru. My best to you and your family. Is the Nursing home any closer to you ?? I dread this entire experience too. We are here for you.

To everyone: You're the best!

DH's made up the yardsale list- got to fly!

Thought of the day :

'Life isn't about finding yourself.
Life is about creating yourself.'
- G. B. Shaw
Question of the day :

" What if the hokey pokey is what it's all about? "


Have fun all!

07-26-2003, 09:09 AM
Lovely wall, Punkin! You're so talented. I love getting alittle glimpse into your life--post more! Beautiful kitty too....

Anagram, how are you feeling? And how's your mom feeling? That sounds so hard, to say the least. It's good that your sister is there. I'll be thinking about you.

Arabella, yeah, that was a funny quote from the staff party. Funny, in a chilling sort of way!

Amarantha, Thanks for sharing the quote from Mother Theresa. And to Kaylets for the statistics that show us how blessed we all are.

Off to see an old friend of ours who's moving to California. It may be the last time we see him for a while.

07-26-2003, 10:26 AM
That's about where I am... I will start counting the days again at some point, but at least I'm doing them. At the staff party, I did forego the bread, had a couple of bloody Marys, turned down a third drink, and had a couple of little bites of the strawberry shortcake. All in all, a success. Didn't feel good, though. I felt awkward, self-conscious, resentful of all the slim women in their little summer clothes. Oh, I have to work on that attitude! I've just come to another stupid reality check, I think, realizing how heavy I am.

But - onward and downward! Avanti, to quote our Empress! :cb:
Just dashing this off between run and tai chi :cp:

I do find the religion quote hilarious, but in a shaking my head kind of way. Can't believe that anyone actually feels that way! And you know, those people think they're being very broadminded! :lol:

Empress, I feel the same way as you about religion. I think that any deep and honest search for truth brings us to essentially the same place.

Must be off, else I'll be late. Love!

07-26-2003, 10:32 AM
The hokey pokey IS what it's all about!!!!!

:spin: :dancer: :cb: :gossip: :spin: :dancer: :cb: :gossip:

07-26-2003, 03:40 PM
Oh, my GOD, you guys. I never realized how much I LOVED all of you until I spent a week and a HALF without you. :love: I've just spent 2 hours catching up with your lives and feel rotten that I haven't been here for Punkin's mom's hair loss, Anagram's mom's health issues, Kaylet's DS's ibroglios and Poor Frogger's fair-weather moving buds!!

Kisses and tears to you all from the bottom of my heart. I MISSED you!! :angel:

So, where have you been, Cerise, you say? Ugh. I've been schlepping myself, Ramon, two cats, two doves and all our STUFF from a 1,000 square-ft. apartment in Eugene, OR to a 600 sq-ft apartment in downtown Seattle. GRAAAAAAAAGH. In 90 degree weather. :flow2:

I've been very, very sweaty, tired and my feet have adopted this charming habit of hurting all the bloody time.

We LOVE Seattle!!! We live smack in the middle of downtown where EVERYTHING is accessible, we have traffic rushing by our house (poor kitties have just now gotten used to it), my family's closer. We're really happy. And our apartment, while smaller, is much, much lighter, happier and more aesthetically pleasing. We get a good feeling here. :goodvibes

And Bo-Beena, we sho' do have to de-clutter, my girl. We've already made one trip to Goodwill and are planning another. Makes you keep what you really love and lose what you've been hoarding out of obligation or whatever. A very good feeling.

I have not at all walked per se. Not this week. I've nearly died of fatigue every night, though, so not really feeling guilty. I'm really optimistic about living here. It's a walking city, like Paris. And hilly. Very hilly. Parking's such a pain in the @$$ that we walk a lot to get to this store or that.

My brother, a 3rd-year med. student and his wife, the personal trainer, live here and it has been heaven, HEAVEN to see them nearly every day. Elisabeth is a monster, man. She teaches at least 3 Spinning classes a day and is CUT. She wears lots of skinny, athletic outfits, too. A daily inspiration. It helps that she's unfailingly kind and loves the **** out of me and really wants to help me be fit. Otherwise I'd probably try to kill her. ;)

Well, ladies, I'll never stay away this long again. Apart from the fact that you guys are incredibly wonderful to me, I've just missed out on a lot of your life stuff, important stuff, and I don't want that to happen again.

Cerise :grouphug:

P.S. I wanted to comment on that religion thing. I'm a Christian (though I have to say that I flinch at the label), a very liberal one, and have zero tolerance for any sort of religious superiority complexes. I was recently trying to explain to a more fundamentalist friend that I'm a "non-exclusivist", a fancy way of saying that I don't think that Xianity is the only, or even the BEST way to pursue spirituality, and he was like, "but what about TRUTH? Don't you believe that Christianity is the TRUTH?" Please. Truth is so evasive, and I believe non-linear. I don't think one belief renders another un-truth-ful, even if they seem contradictory. Anyway, there's my two cents. :soap:

07-26-2003, 05:44 PM
Cerise! So great to see you back, and to hear about how wonderful it sounds like this move is going to be for you. We missed you!

I love your approach to Christianity. The belief in exclusive truth is my major bone of contention with Christianity. I was more-or-less brought up Christian but that just did it in for me. And I do believe there's truth in Christianity, but that some of the elements - such as exclusive right of way - were added because they served someone's purpose.

There's such a contradiction with a lot of people who think they're tolerant, too, in that they "tolerate" people who worship differently, but think they're going to ****. :rolleyes:

07-26-2003, 08:38 PM
Hi, Cerise! :wave: I lived in Seattle for a number of years (in what we called the "U" district, dunno if they still call it that) ... very fond memories of the place!

I also have problems with the concept of TRUTH (aka exclusivity) in religion, as well as in many areas of life.

I don't really know what TRUTH is, especially when it relates to such huge matters as are often dealt with in conventional religions.

IMNHO, religion is a little like art and music, the best way is to just enjoy what moves you and not pretend to understand the rest!!!! :cb:

What I most hate is when people make assumptions about what I believe or when they try to foist their belief systems onto me out of a false sense that it's their duty.

Hmmm. I think that was about to happen early this a.m. when I was sitting in the car in the supermarket parking lot enjoying a quiet and messy moment with my ONE Krispy Kreme. Had the a/c on (in Arizona you just don't sit in a car long in the summer without the a/c, which is one of the things I dislike about the place, but I digress), the windows up and the car locked. Was thinking. A sweet-faced, nicely dressed woman with neat ponytail and conservative clothing (aka a dress in 95-degree heat at 7 a.m. on Saturday, which is my definition of conservative unless you're going to a wedding), clutching a pamphlet, startled me by peering into my driver side window, two inches from my face. I jumped and yelped and she waved her pamphlet apologetically and gestured for me to roll down the window. My interpretation, since the pamphlet seemed to have a Christian symbol on it, was that she was drumming up business for her religion. This made me mad, as she had intruded on my moment of peace (and Krispy Kreme), so I frowned heavily motioned her to go away, which she did.


A nice person, which I never aspire to be as it is beyond my powers, would have rolled down the window and been polite to the lady.

I could have given her the little "drawing down the moon" necklace I have hanging from the car mirror in exchange for her pamphlet.

I'm sure she would have appreciated it.


I need more Krispy Kreme! :tired:

07-27-2003, 07:18 AM
Hey Chicks. :wave:

My plans to spend the weekend doing marvelous things (tackling Mt. Laundry, working out, grocery shopping, watching movies, etc,etc) seemed to be in the direct opposite of what my body had planned for me. My IBS decided to have me curled in a ball for all of yesterday with a crushing headache for good measure. I gave in at 7pm and went to bed, only to start it all again at 4am. :shrug: Sometimes you just can't fight it and it's better to give in. At least it's the weekend because I can't take time off work to deal with it.

All I can say about those nuts who pander religion is may God help them, 'cause they're going to need help when I'm done with them! :rollpin: No, Amarantha, you shouldn't feel you have to be nice to them. They certainly don't return the favor when they spit the word "Pagan" like it's some form of leprosy. Anyway, don't want to start any religious wars here.

Cerise, so glad you're back! I'm so happy you're happy in your new place! Sounds like it was a good move for you and Ramon.

Arabella, thank you for your sweet remark! I imagine, though, that my husband would disagree....one Wildfire is more than enough for him to handle. :D You did fabulously at the staff dinner! I know how you feel, though, about the other women in their skinny clothes. You'll get there, love. :grouphug:

Anagram, your Mom sounds like one classy lady. So many fight to stay at home when they know it is not the best thing for themselves and their families. I'm sure having an RN sister there will help tremendously.

Punkin, glad to hear you're Mom has turned that corner from her chemo treatment. One more to go! Your wall looks great! Maia is a cutie, too....I was wondering which one was on the chair. When is/was your shopping trip with Bo-Beena? This weekend? And what's the news with your guy?

Eydie, how was the visit with the friend? Hard to say goodbye, even if it's only for a while.

Kaylets, I hope things work themselves out for your DS. I know how heartbreaking it is when they do stupid things. You and DH are doing the right thing, no matter how awful it feels.

Where is frogger? I can't see her....OH! There she is...geez girl, you're shrinking so fast you might disappear! :cp: Way to go!

Think I'll see if I can handle a cup of tea.

07-27-2003, 10:04 AM
Hello all--

This weeek has been nonstop challenges w/ family or house. The minute we think we've figured out how to deal w/ one, there's another.

From A/C to DS, then DD called w/ an SOS, but to top it all off, DH fell down our stairway yesterday. He pulled the bannister down trying to save himself and now has scrapes and bruises the size of two hands on his lower back.
This morning he is REALLY feeling it.

All week, as I became more overwhelmed I found myself reaching, reaching, reaching.....
Even realized I was not enjoying the pretzels that were oversalted but ate a few more b/4 tossing them.
This is the first time in the longest that I really just needed to cry and it would be tears of frustration.
And did I mention, while I was on the phone
"sharing" with a friend, one of my dogs had a slight seizure and wet the floor and vomitted too??
Do you see what I mean??

Luckily, this came in my email this morning as a gentle reminder I still have it better than many.....

Today's thought is : " I wish you joy".


This will most certainly put a lump in your throat and maybe a thought
>in your mind to appreciate all the little things in your life (It is no
>accident you received this!)
>The Sandpiper by Robert Peterson
>She was six years old when I first met her on the beach near where I
>live. I drive to this beach, a distance of three or four miles,
>whenever the world begins to close in on me. She was building a
>sandcastle or something and looked up, her eyes as blue as the sea.
>"Hello," she said.
>I answered with a nod, not really in the mood to bother with a small
>"I'm building," she said.
>"I see that. What is it?" I asked, not really caring.
>"Oh, I don't know, I just like the feel of sand."
>That sounds good, I thought, and slipped off my shoes. A sandpiper
>glided by.
>"That's a joy," the child said.
>"It's a what?"
>"It's a joy. My mama says sandpipers come to bring us joy."
>The bird went gliding down the beach. Good-bye joy, I muttered to
>myself, hello pain, and turned to walk on.
>I was depressed, my life seemed completely out of balance.
>"What's your name?" She wouldn't give up.
>"Robert," I answered. "I'm Robert Peterson."
>"Mine's Wendy... I'm six." "Hi, Wendy." She giggled. "You're funny,"
>she said.
>In spite of my gloom, I laughed too and walked on. Her musical giggle
>followed me.
>"Come again, Mr. P," she called. "We'll have another happy day."
>After a few days of a group of unruly Boy Scouts, PTA meetings, and an
>ailing mother. The sun was shining one morning as I took my hands out
>of the dishwater. I need a sandpiper, I said to myself, gathering up
>my coat.
>The ever-changing balm of the seashore awaited me. The breeze was chilly
>but I strode along, trying to recapture the serenity I needed.
>"Hello, Mr. P," she said. "Do you want to play?"
>"What did you have in mind?" I asked, with a twinge of annoyance.
>"I don't know, you say."
>"How about charades?" I asked sarcastically.
>The tinkling laughter burst forth again. "I don't know what that is."
>"Then let's just walk."
>Looking at her, I noticed the delicate fairness of her face. "Where do
>you live?" I asked.
>"Over there." She pointed toward a row of summer cottages.
>Strange, I thought, in winter.
>"Where do you go to school?" "I don't go to school. Mommy says we're
>on vacation."
>She chattered little girl talk as we strolled up the beach, but my mind
>was on other things. When I left for home, Wendy said it had been a
>happy day. Feeling surprisingly better, I smiled at her and agreed.
>Three weeks later, I rushed to my beach in a state of near panic. I was
>in no mood to even greet Wendy. I thought I saw her mother on the
>porch and felt like demanding she keep her child at home.
>"Look, if you don't mind," I said crossly when Wendy caught up with me,
>"I'd rather be alone today." She seemed unusually pale and out of
>"Why?" she asked.
>I turned to her and shouted, "Because my mother died!" and thought, My
>God, why was I saying this to a little child?
>"Oh," she said quietly, "then this is a bad day."
>"Yes," I said, "and yesterday and the day before and--oh, go away!"
>"Did it hurt?" she inquired.
>"Did what hurt?" I was exasperated with her, with myself.
>"When she died?"
>"Of course it hurt!" I snapped, misunderstanding, wrapped up in myself.
>I strode off.
>A month or so after that, when I next went to the beach, she wasn't
>there. Feeling guilty, ashamed and admitting to myself I missed her, I
>went up to the cottage after my walk and knocked at the door. A drawn
>looking young woman with honey-colored hair opened the door.
>"Hello," I said, "I'm Robert Peterson. I missed your little girl today
>and wondered where she was."
>"Oh yes, Mr. Peterson, please come in. Wendy spoke of you so much.
>I'm afraid I allowed her to bother you. If she was a nuisance, please,
>accept my apologies."
>"Not at all -- she's a delightful child." I said, suddenly realizing
>that I meant what I had just said.
>"Wendy died last week, Mr. Peterson. She had leukemia. Maybe she
>didn't tell you."
>Struck dumb, I groped for a chair. I had to catch my breath.
>"She loved this beach so when she asked to come, we couldn't say no.
>She seemed so much better here and had a lot of what she called happy
>days. But the last few weeks, she declined rapidly..." Her voice
>faltered, "She left something for you ... if only I can find it.
>Could you wait a moment while I look?"
>I nodded stupidly, my mind racing for something to say to this lovely
>young woman. She handed me a smeared envelope with "MR. P" printed in
>bold childish letters. Inside was a drawing in bright crayon hues -- a
>yellow beach, a blue sea, and a brown bird. Underneath was carefully
>Tears welled up in my eyes and a heart that had almost forgotten to love
>opened wide. I took Wendy's mother in my arms. "I'm so sorry, I'm so
>sorry, I'm so sorry," I muttered over and over, and we wept together.
>The precious little picture is framed now and hangs in my study. Six
>words -- one for each year of her life -- that speak to me of harmony,
>courage, and undemanding love.
>A gift from a child with sea blue eyes and hair the color of sand -- who
>taught me the gift of love.
>NOTE: This is a true story sent out by Robert Peterson. It happened
>over 20 years ago and the incident changed his life forever. It serves
>as a reminder to all of us that we need to take time to enjoy living and
>life and each other. The price of hating other human beings is loving
>oneself less.
>Life is so complicated, the hustle and bustle of everyday traumas can
>make us lose focus about what is truly important or what is only a
>momentary setback or crisis.
>This week, be sure to give those you love, friends as well as family,
>an extra hug, and by all means, take a moment...even if it is only ten
>seconds, to stop and smell the roses.
>This comes from someone's heart, and is shared with many and now I share
>it with you.
> There are NO coincidences!
>Everything that happens to us happens for a reason. Never brush aside
>anyone as insignificant. Who knows what they can teach us?
>Someone thought this was worth sending on and I do too.


07-27-2003, 12:34 PM
Yo!!! I'm down half a pound, which is my goal and doing great on my 21-day challenge, so don't think anybody could engage me in a religious war today, Wildire!!!!!! :s: :devil:

And I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone on the religious front by telling that story. Just sharing my feelings about something that was bothering me and I guess seeking support, something that I seem to need a lot these days.

I will share with you guys that on that other forum where I, uh, vacationed for awhile, I actually did post a "prayer request" (go figure), as I've been in a lot of psychological pain for awhile now and for whatever strange reason, I just posted there, although I said something about my spiritual beliefs not being conventional. I got one nice message from a sweetie on that board and one message from another person who intimated that my request was unworthy of prayer. She did apologize in a second (and third, I think) and said she was not talking about me, of course, but I did feel offense nevertheless and the support she received, as opposed to the nonsupport I received, probably was one factor in my realizing that board was not the place for me, though by pm I did receive two nice messages.

So, I do apologize if anything I said re religion caused anyone on this thread any offense.

Actually, that's why I need to just focus on the weight loss and stay off the discussion thread, as it's my wont to discuss too freely whenever something in a post resonates. :(


Hmmm. I seem to not be as perky as I thought and shall go out and have a sausage mcmuffin. I mentioned on the emergency foodwatch thread that I've downloaded a weight/diet tracking program similar to fitday that uses usda food counts and it shows that sandwich is approximately 40 calories more than is listed in my calorie counter book or the company's own nutritional faqs. :yikes:

I'll come back to this thread when I have a more positive attitude! :s:

07-27-2003, 12:40 PM
Oh, Kaylets, it never seems to end, does it? Hope DH is ok. So much going on. We must be under the same stars, though, as we are usually weatherwise because we've gone through incredibly non-stop household problems as well the last several weeks.

Mom seems to be having more problems in the two days she's been in home. Don't know if it's a med problem or her way of coping. My kids did go to see her yesterday and felt they had a satifactory visit for the shape she's in. Others have not and have reported strange symptoms, etc. Being addressed, of course, but by others.

Darling granddaughters were here as well so I stayed with them and they, as usual, were my best medicine for whatever bothers me. Not eating as healthfully but not really bingeing either. But I'm sure I've put some on as my bod requires extreme vigilence. My belief that I'm a lucky person (overall) will bide me through.

Good day to all, esp. those unanswered for a while.

07-27-2003, 12:54 PM
Hi girls!
sorry its been so long but i`ve been very bad:( but i`m motivated to get back on track! I`ll sign in again tomorrow. Good luck to you all!


07-27-2003, 01:36 PM
Empress, must have been posting at the same time. Just noted the half pound loss and that you're now under the bugaboo 160 mark. That should have you bouncing along.

Another of the many strengths of this particular board, I've always thought, is that we seem to have the knack for letting people be themselves and post as openly as they choose. So post positively, negatively, briefly, at length. Focussed or totally off topic (if anything is OT here).

Sorry to hear of your pain and that's where I like to think this group excels - being here when you're in pain whether you tell us you are or not. But if we're able to give you support in any way, stay, stay, stay.

I sometimes feel my beliefs come through between the lines but I think that's ok too. Because they are a part of me and help me in incredible ways and perhaps help others to understand me. But I'd never think of asking someone else to be who I am. I think that's something we each need to figure out for ourselves. As we need to do with so many other things.

A bit peaceful this afternoon. Much needed.

Welcome back, Jenn.

07-27-2003, 02:04 PM
Anagram- So glad things are slowing down a little for you so you can catch your breath w/ the princesses.

And I second everything you else you had to say regarding this thread and support, views, beliefs, etc. You said it all so well I can't add anything accept "YES".

Empress- I am amazed that someone would actually take the time to post "That's not worthy of prayer"-- Absolutely amazing.
I again second what Anagram said and hope you know we are here for you.


DH actually woke up from his nap this am feeling suprising good and we went and got vegatables. We both feel like he dodged a bullet on that one.

I think I'll lay down myself.

Hang in there all!

07-27-2003, 03:09 PM
Jenn's back! Jenn, as a poster who left for a week and a half so I could move, let me say that I don't recommend it. Hang in there with everybody, even when you're being "bad". I'm glad to see you back and I'm glad to BE back. Onward, sister!!

Empress, nothing, NOTHING is unworthy of prayer. Nada. That really pissed me off. I will pray for you.

***Important question for the Losers: does it bother anyone that I say I'll pray and stuff like that? I mean, it does reveal that I have beliefs in one quarter of the religious spectrum, and I can totally leave that stuff out. Should I? Please be candid...***

Golly gee WHIZ, Kaylets. Your cup is full, huh? I DO wish you joy, my dear. I hope it flits around you at the most surprising moments, until you're glutted with it. And I wish you some smooth days ahead. Isn't the Wood Nymph in charge of flitting things? Maybe she can arrange something. Or is she still the Water Nymph for now? Hmmmm. And thank you for that joy story. It was a good reminder for me.

You too, Anagram. You seem to be someone who loves well, and I sincerely hope that you'll experience a respite from toil soon. Here's a whiff of lavender...

Wildfire, what's IBS? Whatever it is, it sounds owie. I'm so sorry...

Love to the rest of you. Have a GOOD day.


07-27-2003, 03:37 PM
Kaylets, I'm so relieved to hear that your DH 'dodged a bullet' and is up and doing! :) Get any interesting vegetables? I saw some interesting corn at the market---it was mottled red and yellow, like 'indian' corn but was for boiling or steaming. Very pretty, I'll try it this week.

Amarantha, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling distressed. It's times like this that I wish we all lived close! Please consider yourself surrounded and supported.:grouphug:

Cerise, your new life sounds so idyllic. As one who lives in the country, I think it would be lovely to live someplace where everything is within walking distance.It sounds so ALIVE! [It's alive here too of course, but with deer, racoons, skunks, rabbits...!] And Cerise, please, be yourself. It's been my experience that those of us who are non-Christian are very accepting, and are always perplexed when the same courtesy isn't extended to us by some. Prayer is common to all religions; as a matter of fact, I'd be grateful if you'd remember me in your prayers! :) The last thing we need here is to feel like we're walking on eggshells. None of that!:nono:

Hugs to you, Anagram. Thanks for continuing to check in with us to let us know how things are. The princesses are good medicine indeed!:)

Hey, Jenn's back!:D

Okay, I'm off to take a delicious afternoon nap.....

07-27-2003, 03:59 PM
Thanks, guys, for the support. Guess I didn't exactly mean I was getting off the thread (as here I am again, huh?) just really needing some support (or hormones) and was trying to explain why I keep wanting to talk about religion these days. Should have known it wouldn't bother anyone here! Everyone is far too enlightened! :)

Cerise, thank you for the extremely welcome pm! No, you didn't weird me out! And per your question on the board here, my answer is much the same as Eydie's ... I think prayer is common in all religions ... and always welcome ... and I think we've all pretty much revealed at least snippets of our belief systems here and I guess that's what I meant I was worrying about a bit ... and I started it by posting Mother T and explaining that I found her a wonderful and wise crone but did not share her particular religion (although raised in it).

I think I'm just hormonal or something and I'm also going to take a nap, plus eat Krispy Kremes, which I have worked into my diet plan for today.

I am playing with the diet software I downloaded. It's a little frustrating because it only lets me calculate custom foods in 100-gram segments and it also defaults to French at inexplicable times. But it has a sort of glam lady who illustrates how your body looks at different BMIs, weights, etc. and that's kind of cool.

Avanti, anyway! :wave:

07-27-2003, 07:48 PM
Cerise-- My mother in law used to have a saying " The more prayers the better" -- and she would welcome all--
I am sure everyone took your post in the spirit it was intended.

As for discussions, etc, as long as we remain " enlightened " and remember we are friends .... which would mean if I disagree, I would might not tell you I disagree but would always respect your belief. And if could not tolerate where the discussion went, I would follow the Empress's example regarding the other thread she mentioned.
I also belong to another thread and see posts going on and on debating the pros and cons and details of individual's beliefs.
These posts become disrespectful, ugly and distasteful.
I might be tempted to post but always do not as I do not want to go to that low level.

As you know, I am convinced for all our differences (all of humankind) we are more alike than different. I do agree that
people find each other for a reason and it is up to us to learn and celebrate finding each other.

Sure do love your whiff of lavendar!

I unfortunately know what IBS is- Irritable Bowel Syndrome--
When I get really stressed I have severe attacks. Some folks are affected (sp?) by some foods, caffeine, PMS, etc. In fact, if my mood hadn't lightened I might be a candidate for an attack by tomorrow.

Punkin-- your wall looks Pretty!! I could never do that and have it look so together- with me, it would look like I let the preschool in to do it.

Arabella- is it true? are you more of a water nymph in summer?

Jenn- Glad to see you back!

And Empress and Punkin- Congrats on pounds down-
me well,..... there was a terrible experience w/ the vending machine and my hand...... and it happened 3 days in a row!...

take are all!

07-27-2003, 07:59 PM
I think I'm starting to feel halfway human again. Had a nap from 2:30 - 4:00pm, and I don't think that will interfere with my sleep tonight. What a mixed up weekend it has been.

Cerise, IBS is Irritable Bowel Syndrome, a functional gastro-intestinal disorder. Unfortunately, a debilitating condition for 1 in 5 people. IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning there is nothing else evident, such as Crohns, Colitis, or cancer. Organically, everything is there and should be functioning normally, but it doesn't. There is a short circuit somewhere between the brain and the gut, and this makes the gut function abnormal, ranging from IBS D (Diarreha), to IBS C (Constipation) or a combination IBS C/D. It can be very, very painful, and completely changes your life. Imagine the worst stomach flu you've ever had and multiply it by 10....for every day for the rest of your life. There is no cure, and limited treatments...most of which won't work for everyone. I'd say about half the people with IBS are unable to hold down a job, and many become housebound. It's just not socially acceptable to have bowel problems! ;) Luckily, I have a milder case compared to others on an IBS board I belong to. I do work full-time, and am able to leave my home, although not without days I can't. A flare-up like this weekend only happens a few times a year for me, but for some it's every day. Only once have I had to go to Emergency for a shot of Morphine for the pain.

Unfortunately, most doctors know very little about the condition, often learning from their patients who are better informed. I stopped relying on the medical community for treating my IBS several years ago, as I know far more about the intricasies of the brain/gut connection and possible treatments than the "professionals" I've encountered.

My apologies to anyone for whom this is T.M.I.!

I usually resort to the BRAT diet (bananas, rice, applesauce, toast) during a flare up, and that's what I've eaten the entire weekend.

About your question regarding "I'll pray for you"....nope, doesn't bother me at all. To me it's your way of saying you'll ask for help for me, and keep me in your thoughts. Just as I might light a candle for you and ask for help for you. We can all use all the help we can get!

Jenn, we saved your seat on the wagon! Climb back on!

Anagram, hope things improve for your Mom. She may be stressed over her new surroundings, and I'm sure that doesn't help.

Amarantha, you just keep being you! I think we all agree that we accept each other as we are, and we are all open minded enough for whatever you feel like discussing here. I would rather you vent it out here than keep it to yourself.

I feel a :grouphug: is in order!

07-27-2003, 08:25 PM
Thanks, Wildfire!!! And anyone going through a bout with IBS also deserves a :grouphug:

I was diagnosed with this condition many, many years ago, but apparently it either ran its course and went away or it wasn't a correct diagnosis, as in my 30s it just disappeared, not by dint of anything I was doing or not doing, unless it was not eating meat for two decades.

Jenn, I forgot to say howdy!!! :wave:

To all, mentioned or unmentioned. My last week in the newsroom full time appears to be looming, as I am assuming the editor I'm replacing is planning to return. At the moment, I'm thinking of turning in a resignation myself if this happens, as I am tired of being the wandering gypsy working at home every weekend. We'll see, though. Whatever, I know I will make my 21-day challenge and reach next week in great dietary form.

07-27-2003, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Amarantha! IBS can go into remission for months or even years. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones, maybe it was a misdiagnosis, maybe it was a food allergy of some kind.... :shrug: ...just glad you don't suffer from it anymore! :cp:

Wow, you're thinking of resigning? Is it possible they will keep you on in the newsroom? Would you accept if they offered? Whatever happens, I wish you the best! :crossed: :lucky:

07-27-2003, 11:01 PM
Hi All, just a quick little visit. I just wanted to let you all know that i finally did it I finally made it to 90lbs, that was the hardest 10lbs I have lost yet but the most satisfying. So I now have only 17 left to go and if it takes several more months that is just fine, my goal for Sept 1st is to still be losing, it just doesn't matter how much as long as it is coming off. Good luck to everyone with this challenge you can all do it. Bye for now I will try to check in again in a few days it is so hard when Im so busy, see you all soon.

07-27-2003, 11:29 PM
Just came back on for a bit tonight to catch up on some of the posts and, as usual, I find so much good feeling going on that it "lights a candle" in my life.

Seems we all have something going on that's not great but for the most part we trudge on and appreciate the little things that make life worthwhile. And somehow come out a bit wiser/stronger from the "not so great". Might I say that's a part of our common thread - that we sort of "have it together"? Maybe not totally yet because I think I'm always a work in progress but we're all pretty well on the road.

No one would ever offend me by offering to pray for me. Many have, of all sorts of religious and not so affiliations. Some who have said so have surprised me as it was so unexpected. (And maybe some have not said it that I thought would.)

So double hugs to all in pain, physical, psychological, hormonal....those of us who need Fresh Start Cards can grab a few of those and the no guilt cards and jump back in with our successful losers ( so glad some of us are doing so well) and set forth once again on the next stage of the journey.

I feel so much stronger now that I've checked in again. "See" you in the morning.

07-28-2003, 02:24 AM
Hooray for Dollar!!!! 90 pounds down and only 17 left to go!!!! That's a wonderful accomplishment, Dollar!!! You're on your way to the Maintenance Room!!!! :cb: :cb: :cb: :cb: cb: :cp:

Wildfire, I'm pretty sure the IBS won't come back, it's been a long time ... a food allergy is actually a fairly good bet ... also I had bullemia and all sorts of other eating problems ... hmmm, I still have eating problems, but I digest everything rather well now, so that's a plus? Anyway, hope you are feeling better ... be careful ...

I really am thinking of resigning, actually. There really isn't a job for me in the newsroom if the wandering editor returns and right now I don't feel like returning to my old position. Probably I will, but this may be the sign it's time to find a new career. Dunno.

Anagram: Glad you checked in, as I always find your balance and input so helpful. Yes, I think we are all poised and ready for the next stage of the journey, wherever it takes us.

I know, for one thing, is that I intend to meet up with Dollar in that Maintenance Room. Can you picture a thread with all of us maintaining our perfect weight, on and on until we are too old to type? How great that would be! :angel:

My new software program says my perfect weight is 127 pounds ... my goal has always been 135, though, so I'll decide when I reach that goal if I want to go for the computer's idea of perfect.


Had a thought that it might just be that I've been on reduced calories for 15 straight days and steadily losing fat (finally) that is causing my depression. I remember from losing the 100 that depression and a slowed metabolism occurred periodically ... which is why I've been eating the sugar, the donuts, whatever, until I get a few pounds down. I lack vege, must make more of an effort in that regard. Too bad I really don't like them! :sumo:

Avanti, all!:?:

07-28-2003, 02:40 AM
P.S. This software I downloaded is rather strange but interesting. It has these strange colorful displays comparing one's food intake to the food pyramid and the Mediterranian (sp?) Diet (sorry, can't spell that word) and it also has a "food podium" illustrating the breakdown of calories on a sort of ancient stone platform with cabalistic symbols on it ... I don't understand the concept but it's kind of neat to look at! :)

Anyway, the reason I bring this up is that I see by the software that there are 36 days to Labor Day, which is the period I set up for the program to track my diet. So that's another 21-day challenge after this one and a few more days and I'm there ... at 158 pounds!!! Or less!!!

07-28-2003, 07:02 AM
Hello all!

Here we go Monday, here we go......

Both DH and I went to bed b/4 9 last night-- He spoke to DD after hours of trying to connect by leaving messages w/ her mother.
Very hard to understand what she's going thru because she is "acting" very chipper yet is saying she is in a huge financial crisis. Unfortunately, we suspect she's getting bad advice from her mother ---- There a lots of unanswered questions --like--since your mother lives near your job and has 4 bedrooms, why not stay w/her until you are earning enough money for an apartment?
DD has left her husband for many reasons. We sent money then to get car transferred into her name, etc but now we are being asked for much more money to do the exact same things....
Her husband has not worked in at least 18 mos so she will see no support money--

We were exhausted mentally.... Its almost a relief to go to work and deal with things that do not have the "emotional charge".

Mike Brescia's Life Lesson hit the bullseye for me this am-- hope you enjoy it too.

Thought of the day :

"If you ever get a second chance at life, you've got to go
all the way."
- Lance Armstrong (5 time winner of the Tour de France)


Well, it's now official.

Lance Armstrong has won the Tour de France for a record
tying fifth time.

The most difficult, grueling sporting event in the world.

He survived 2,100 miles over two mountain ranges in 20
days, the stomach flu, dehydration, crashes & near crashes
as well as the weather to do the unthinkable. Three weeks
and over 83 hours of pushing himself past exhaustion.
I can't even imagine what that must take physically and
mentally to run that race.

To most people, it's just two words, "bike race," that
don't mean too much.

But in life you've got to grab inspiration wherever you can.

To me, his record setting performance is just one more
push to make this lifetime a masterpiece. One more
confirmation that with determination, anything can be
achieved. Absolutely anything.

Here's a guy who in 1996 was diagnosed with and advanced
form of testicular cancer that had spread to his abdomen,
lungs and brain.

Because of it's spread, he was given only a 50-50
chance of survival.

But he had aggressive surgery and chemo treatments that
alone would've killed the average person, and was
pronounced cancer free in 1997. Then began the arduous
road back to health.

A few months ago, I was watching a 1997 video of him
training in after his surgery. He had no hair and you
could see the U-shaped scar on top of his head where they
went in to remove part of the cancer. He said training was
difficult... he would get wiped out after only an hour and
a half on the bike.

An hour and a half, and he got wiped out!

Most people are breathing heavy after 2 minutes.

After the treatment and surgery, he was no different than
anyone else... actually much worse off physically than
practically anyone alive.

But he had Lance Armstrong's mind...

...the mind that made him the best cyclist in the world.

You see, that is what separates the winners from the
losers in life.

Everyone who knows of Lance knows of him as a winner, but
in his first Tours he didn't do so well.

Here's how he did in his previous Tour races:

'93 - Did not finish
'94 - Did not finish
'95 - 36th
'96 - Did not finish
'97 - Did not enter
'98 - Did not enter
'99 - 1st
'00 - 1st
'01 - 1st
'02 - 1st
'03 - 1st

He didn't even finish 3 times. See? We're talking about
a grueling race!

But success in life is about how many times you pick
yourself up, not how many times you fail.

Since I was "this" close to using another quote today,
I'll include it. Here it is: "A winner much first know
what losing's like." Billionaire publisher Malcolm Forbes
said that. So he knew something about winning, I'd say.

You see, so many people I work with are just so scared of
losing that they just won't get involved in life and risk
falling down... of looking foolish... of losing what little
they have.

But you must.

The good stuff is on the other side of failure. You just
can't get there without it.

It hurts, sure it does.

Those months I spent in the van hurt worse than I can go
into right now. And lots of risk went into getting out and
creating an actual life. And without failure there is no


I've been reading the press coverage of this year's Tour
extensively, and I read a quote of one of Lance's fans
saying that this is the most excited she's ever been in
her life.

And I thought about how sad that is.

Someone else's achievement, someone they've never met -
and it's the most thrilling event in their life.

Look, I don't care if it's the World Cup, the Super Bowl
or little green men landing on Earth, the most thrilling
moment in your life should be from something YOU achieve.

And there is inspiration all around every day. You just
have to open your eyes. It's constant and never ending.

Tell yourself that you are prepared to look stupid a dozen
times today. And when you accomplish the first one, find
out what you can learn from it. After your twelfth stupid
action, you should have learned twelve new lessons that
hopefully made you smarter and better prepared for tomorrow.

Are you getting this?

That's how you use failure... to learn.

Lance did.

He failed and failed and failed.

But because he used his failure to learn...

...he got smarter and smarter and smarter.

Without the failure, he wouldn't be so dominant today.

Without the cancer, he may not have gotten so mentally
strong so as to be so unbeatable.........

And don't mourn all the years you didn't do this.

Just get excited. Let go of the failures. Use them to
learn and let them go.


---Mike Brescia- Life's Laser Lessons

Take care all!

07-28-2003, 08:28 AM
Hey all!!!

Pretty much all moved in. Not unpacked yet though!!! Still have some cleaning supplies and a few odds back at the old place. We have to do a clean up and then we'll be officially out. I'm really disapointed that my inlaws didn't have their stuff out of the house by the time we moved in. So as you can imagine, I have no where to put our stuff let alone pack it. They are staying with friends and hope to finished packing and moving stuff around this week. I'm even moredissapointed that do to a misunderstaning, they are not paying us rent for the month that they lived there after we closed on the house. :bomb: Hubby and I remember the agreement as being they would pay us while they live in the house. So here we are all month not saving, just trying to pay off bills and whatnot thinking they were going to pay us for living there. NOPE I'm glad we have savings..... And to top it all off we got our first mortgage bill 2 weeks ago and they hadn't even the courtesy to let us know it was there. It's do Aug. 1. Now all I have to figure out is how to pay it. If I mail it, it's going to be late, but they do have a number to call to 'inroll' in their automatic debit every month. We plan on getting a new account, so that's not really good either. Wonder if they will let us do a one time debit until we get situated.

Haven't been able to sneek a weigh, I can't find my scale. Maybe it's a good thing so I'll be more surprised.

Well, it's back to work. Tired already, got up at 4am to get here.

07-28-2003, 10:34 AM
Great Monday morning! Frogger, hang on! By Thanksgiving you should be all settled, bills worked out, new job so no 4 a.m. rising time (aaagh!)

Amarantha, it does sound like it's time for you to rethink careers. Often wondered how you coped with all that travelling around and weekend working. That's ok if it's what you WANT to do but it sounds like lately it hasn't been.

And Kaylets, how awful! How much can one take at one time? One step in front of the other and do that inside our group hug that's coming your way.

Ah, Empress, I don't feel balanced this morning. I'm doing the one step in front of the other thing myself. I KNOW it's normal to have some depression from the nursing home thing and the immediate deterioration Mom's having. And I am grateful I have six other siblings all doing their part. But with the last eight months of DHs situation having drained me emotionally, I really am having some trouble coping. The kids and grandkids were a distraction over the weekend - this really started Saturday before they came but while they were here I put it off. I expressed the whole thing to DH this morning but I don't really want to add to his burdens as he's been coping well so far and avoiding any depression he might be feeling because of his lessening of strength, etc. So now I'm unloading on my friends here and at the same time "planning". I told him we need a day for some fun (our outings last week were to the hospital). He's supposed to be thinking up something for that - doesn't have to be much.

And I am planning to go to the pool this morning no matter what. I need the time to myself and the relaxation the water brings. Not to mention the exercise and keeping my back and knees in working shape.

DH is the love of my life and has been my strong support all these many years but he has never learned to be a consoler despite my many efforts to teach him. (Yes, many.) So I must remind myself he would (and has) done so many things and get my rear in gear and trudge onward to daylight. Good friend called the other day and I must get back to her. Over 41 years she probably knows more of me and history than anyone and we have sustained each other through much even though our contact is mostly sporadic most times. So I'll get to K and we'll go over it all (she's having some unbelievable times too) and straighten each other out. So there's another blessing in my life.

So that should do it. I've really not eaten as well as I would have liked but not as badly as I might have imagined either. Just need to get all back together and get through this "normal" depression. I think sometimes just acknowledging and "naming' goes a long way to relieving and I'll hop back on later and let you know when I'm hopping about if I get there. Thanks for "listening".

zadie k
07-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Quick stop in. Test tomorow. Aarrgg.

Just fit in to a pair of size 10 jeans that I have not even thought about putting on for a couple of years.

Talk to y'all on Thursday when I am done and back to normal.

07-28-2003, 03:25 PM
I just got off work, and I am sitting here enjoying a large hazelnut coffee (actually my second b/c I had to read though all the post I had missed, while out on my binge). I`m sitting in sweats watching the rain beating off the window...I love it when it rains...call me crazy. I feel motivated and ready to conquer the world again, last week I was in some sort of slump, so I`m up and smiling and ready to be healthy once aGAIN.

Cerise: I`m glade you love Seattle. Make the best out of Elisabeth...I would love to have some one to motivate me:) And I am happy you are praying for us, I am not that religious personally, but I respect what others believe:)

Wildfire: IBS don`t sound so good...good luck with everything!

Kaylets: Changes are good for you:) keep on working girl

Eddie: have a great nap babe

Amarantha- good luck in the news room AND 21 day challenge. Hang in there girl and you will be 158lbs or less by labourday.

Dollar: 90lbs- amazing!

Anagram: I`m going to grab one of those fresh start cards, and keep on trudging by, thanks for your kind words.

Frogger- seems like everyone is moving right now. I`ll be off myself in a month, Good Luck! And don`t worry about your scales, surprise is a good thing sometimes.

Zadie K- Great joB On the size 10`s...I`ll keep dreaming it for myself!

For anyone I forgot to mention, all the best.
So girls lets make it to the next step, because we can.


07-28-2003, 05:32 PM
Wow! So many posts I don't know where to get started!!! :dizzy:

Monday is weigh in day for me and I'm down 3.8 from last week. Happy camper I am - but I need clothes!!!!!! I think I can make it till Super Shoppin' Saturday - it's supposed to be 104 tomorrow so maybe I'll just forego clothes altogether! (birthday suit still fits!)
...wonder what my clients would think if they knew...? :chin: :lol:

First of all, Zadie, good luck on your exam :write: tomorrow! We'll all be sitting there with you in spirit!! Go get 'em! (ooh, and congrats on the jeans too! very cool...)

Kaylets, thank goodness DH is ok! Last thing you need is more to deal with! And the dog, is he/she ok too?? My dad's beagle has seizures, only one a year, but it's so scary!

Anagram, I'm sorry to hear your mom had to make the move. Fingers crossed it is temporary and how comforting it must be that your sister works there too. :grouphug:

Arabella, about what was said at the party - I've heard similar 'round these parts and it makes me cringe every time. I don't know that I could've let that one go without a response. :devil: Evil red headed temper o' mine I guess.... :lol:

Cerise, Wecome back! What a bonus about your mega-healthy sister in law! Glad you're all moved, settled and love Seattle.
Re: your question about praying - ditto what everyone else has said. Being non-Christian myself, I've never been offended by people's offers of prayer. Whether it's prayer or sending energy, or whatever you choose to call it.... it's all the same to me, and extremely powerful either way - it's about the intent, not the method. Come to think of it, I think that applies to religion in general doesn't it?

Wildfire, I hope the IBS episode has gotten better. I'll continue to :crossed: for remission for you... Small correction for the mom - she's got 2 more chemo sessions, as of her last one, she's 1/2 way through ( :cb: ) so it's 2 down, 2 to go!
My guy you ask?? Eh, same ol' same ol'. We've got a great friendship and I'm positive, 100% sure, that's all it's ever going to be. That's ok, things *have* evolved to a point where I think that's what I'd be most happy with.

Amarantha, yes dear :queen:, it does appear that the opportunity has presented itself for you to do some job changing. I hope you find something that is more fun than work, allows you to retire early, and permits the completion of an onsite day spa (I'll be over shortly thereafter!). :bubbles:

Jenn, welcome back! :wave: I was wondering where you went to! Please take full advantage of the shoulder and lap belts on the Weight Loss Wagon - we don't want you to fall off again! ;)
I hope you don't mind that I'm living vicariously through you right now - you're wearing sweats????? It's 102 degrees here right now.... I'm praying for it to be cold enough for sweats! But then again, in a few months I'll probably be griping about snow.... :dz:

Dollar, my hero!!! 90 pounds! I hit 45.6 this morning - 1/2 of what you've lost! You are an inspiration.... :yes:

Frogger, glad you're all moved. Bummer on the "renters", sometimes it doesn't pay to do business with family I tell ya... You should call the mortgage company, they're normally willing to do anything to get their money! Besides, with it only being the first payment I'm sure it's normal for there to have to be adjustments. Congratulations again on the new home - you'll find it's like having a child made of lumber and drywall. Everything is suddenly "for the house". :lol: It's fun though!

Just a couple more days of being a responsible office manager. Thursday morning I'm driving to Bo-Beena's for some completely irresponsible fun, rest, visiting and relaxation! (and much needed clothes shopping!)

Toodles for now!

07-28-2003, 09:51 PM
Good Monday, Chickadees!

Quick postie today - I'm actually online to look for work, but stopped by here for a "bit of Dutch courage".

Phewf. We discovered that we live about 3 blocks away from a demonic place called "The Cheesecake Factory". Oh, GOOOOOD. Ramon and I had a lovely lunch there (they also cook nummy other foods) and split a fresh banana cream cheesecake. Girls,.......I'm speechless. Fortunately it's kind of a pricey place so we won't be going often. But the CHEESECAKE, darlings!!! Oh, dear Lord.

Love to all of you and thank you for your wonderful "welcome back."

OK, on to submit my resume to all of those unsuspecting Seattle bosses!

Good luck, Zadie!

07-29-2003, 12:54 AM
Punkin, I'm thinking about that online day spa right now!!! :)

Cerise, I love Seattle, you are lucky ... better stay away from the Cheesecake Factory, though! :nono:

Jenn: We had rain here, too! Not that usual where I live, except in July (the monsoon). Glad you are out of your slump! :dancer:

Anagram: I think you are coping beautifully after all you've been through. How wonderful that you have such a faithful friend to help sustain you, as well as a DH who is willing to plan for a day of just fun. The nursing home thing is VERY hard, but it does get better and is just another chapter in our families' lives. Hang in and just think about being in a lovely spa ...

Has anyone remembered to tip the towel boy lately?


Braindead! Gotta sleep!

07-29-2003, 07:12 AM
Hello all!

Punkin-Thanks for asking- yes, the dog is fine. You'd never know anything had happened. Is your dad's dog on medication or...??

Empress- an On line Spa sounds perfect for your talents. Your imagination would be well suited. Sign me up!~

Cerise- Be careful! I understand the Factory will mail the cheesecakes too!

Ooops, look at the time--
I've done it again...
Today's thought of the day is:

"If you can DREAM it, you can DO it." -- Walt Disney

Question of the day is:
"Do you prefer to be around men or women?"
-- The Book of Questions

Take care all!

07-29-2003, 07:24 AM
HOW did it get to be THAT time of the month again? The end, that is, with its attendant overflow work. This month the usual coincides with the peakish financial reporting period, so I've got both going on simultaneously :eek: Doing well, though. I'm going for a gentle little run in a few minutes. Tai chi tonight. One of the masters is visiting class for a couple of weeks. He's an amazing person, so much life in his eyes, so direct you get a burst of energy just looking into them. He makes us work very hard, but we also learn a lot. Focusing on getting in the nine fruits/veggies, getting exercise, and so on. Noticed that I was picking at food a bit yesterday when I wasn't actually hungry :nono: Better nip THAT in the bud.

I was thinking about how uncomfortable DH's staff party was for me, how I felt. I think it was not so much resentful of the slender women, but more -- not good enough, not acceptable. That's an awful way to feel. I don't want to ever have that feeling again.

Working on feeling OK, and just getting on with life instead of fretting over this stupid weight.

Ok, well, that was not exactly flying. Must go now, though! Let's make this a great day. Love to all!

07-29-2003, 07:38 AM

Isn't it a shame how little we think of ourselves?? And wouldnt it be a shock if we realized how many others in the room were just as uncomfortable as we are ??

Let me just readjust your wings for you-- You just got a little tangled up but otherwise-- You are Beautiful!!

I wish I could convince myself of that too when I am in a stressful situation.

You brighten my life as does everyone here--
There's still room here in Anagram's group hug, let me squeeze just a little bit tighter.

07-29-2003, 08:41 AM
Thanks, Kaylets! You're so sweet - I feel better! :love:

I think I'm having a little bit of a mid-life crisis, having finished menopause and now being ... uh ... mature :rolleyes: But -- life is too short to waste it by getting obsessed over how we look!

Avanti! (as our Empress says)

07-29-2003, 09:02 AM
Wood Nymph, I remember the picture you once posted of yourself on 3FC and remember thinking what an extraordinary personage you seemed and what a beautiful and queenlike presence you carried with you. :wave:

I'd venture to say that the super slenders at the party were perhaps a tad envious of thy persona and likely those were the vibes floating about the room that made thee uncomfortable.

I'm glad thou be not going to fret about weight, for that maketh a spell that strengthens its hold upon thee.

It will departheth when it be ready ... or not at all ... thy wood nymphness will not be affected.

"The revolution will not be televised!" ~ Somebody?

07-29-2003, 11:41 AM
We lived through Monday! :dance:

Now I can say 'day after tomorrow I'm leaving!' - get outta the way folks, lady on a mission comin' through! :dancer:

Just saw the funniest thing... I looked up into our "back yard" (the front 2 acres that are fenced) and saw one of my mom's horses looking at me. She has her complete fly mask on today and looks a bit like an equine Batman! :lol: The complete fly masks have little spikes where the horses ears go and cover their faces down to their noses. Ooooh, that was funny!

Cerise, Cheesecake Factory?!?!? That's it, you need to move.... ;) There's something to be said for living in the boonies where there are NO food places within a 20 minute drive. :yes:

Kaylets, nope, Pop's beagle isn't medicated. They said if he was seizing more than once a year they could treat it, but since it's so rare that it happens they couldn't justify medicating him all year. Thankfully his are mild too and he seems to recover quickly. Poor pup though - he had his last seizure about a month ago, then 2 weeks later was bit by a sidewinder (AZ rattlesnake). He's fine, but must be one tough beagle!

Arabella, yes this month did go fast didn't it? Here's to making your EOM nasties go away real fast.... :wizard: There, are they gone?? ;)
I agree with Kaylets regarding how you felt at the party. It is awful that we feel that way about ourselves, that we've bought in to the "you're not 'perfect' therefore you're a lesser person" idea. It's sad. Let's say we stop all that right now! Arabella, you're a beautiful person. Kaylets, you too! Amarantha, Cerise, Jenn, Bo-Beena, Dollar, Wildfire, Zadie, Anagram, Frogger, WSW.... EVERYONE!!! We're all beautiful and perfect in our own way. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Q o' the day ~
Do I prefer the company of men or women? That's a tough one because it's not so much the gender that's important as much as it's the person themselves. I have a couple male friends I can talk to like they're a "girlfriend" and some female friends that are very, well, guy-like...

Time to skeedaddle!


07-29-2003, 02:57 PM
Hey ladies!
Tuesday is over:) on with hump day tomorrow! Again an ok day at work coming to a close, again i`m sitting with sweats on drinking coffee. Last night while talking to my mother the Alkins diet came into the topic, and believe it or not I am very interested on going on it. I was wondering if any of you have experienced any success on the diet, and how does it work. I am not sure If I can rate it as a totally healthy way to loose pounds, and eating so much protein doesn`t sound much fun either. But give me your two cents.

Pumpkin seed you are doing wicked! 3.8lbs thats great keep it up. When you live in Newfoundland Canada, you can wear sweats in July haha.
Cerise cheesecake is the devil, mom had a baked chocolate one last night...yum...I couldn`t touch it though..
Arabella- hold your head up doll, one day you`ll let go of your insurcities, and be the slender woman:) or at least be happy with yourself!
Kaylets and anagram good job and good luck ladies.

Signing off, good luck and keep strong!


07-29-2003, 10:11 PM
Hey, Gorgeous Goons,

Aaah, cheescake's not gonna hurt me, but this NIBBLING at home will!:mad: NIBBLING, NIBBLING, NIBBLING!!! I've signed up with a bunch of hiring agencies, so I sit at home reading Barbara Kingsolver novels (wonderful) and making frequent trips to the kitchen! I need to get a job to break up this leisurely, sweaty, neverending MEAL that my last few days have become.

Tomorrow I'll be productive.

I saved my brother's you-know-what last night. I called to ask him what was happening for Elisabeth's (his wife, my SIL) birthday on Wednesday, and he was like, "Oh, crap!" Boy, was he ever grateful that his sister caught him at forgetting instead of his wife. On her birthday! Heh, heh. :smug:

GOD, it's hot here! We've tried marching up and down these hills in the heat and we nearly died. Now we follow the routines of people in southern Spain, or so I see from the movies. Siesta time.

Well, I'll be more interesting as soon as we find jobs and get club memberships at the local Gold's Gym. Do you guys know, are they hard sellers like the vultures at 24-Hour Fitness? If so, I'm just gonna sign up at the local Y. Anyway, I don't have a scale at home or anything, so as soon as the gym membership is under way I'll be armed with progress reports.

For now I'm trying to eat slowly and deliberately (today was an abberation, right?) and the hills are definitely getting easier to navigate!


07-30-2003, 07:40 AM
Good Morning All!!!

Jenn-I've modified the low carb diet. Actually did Atkins and could not stick to it. (TOOO restrictive for my taste) For the past 2 weeks I have cut out all snack foods, breads, cereals, pasta, crackers and sugar. The only veggie I have cut out is corn. Cut back on my diet coke consumption and as of today I have lost 7 lbs. It was rough the first week, but I've been surfing low carb recipe sites and have gotten good reciepes to help me out. I've also eaten out for dinner this entire week (moved to a new home and can't seem to find anything!!) For dinner out I've eaten hot wings (the ones with no breading), salads, BBQ beef ribs, and taco salad from taco bell (minus the beans and shell). PM me if you want to talk:)

Well, still digging out from the mounds of boxes which obviously aren't going anywhere until my inlaws move their stuff out. :mad:

Very tired from the move and the new commute. Need a nap!! LOL

I've got to get to working, I'll check in later!

07-30-2003, 07:47 AM
Hello all!!

Just read a great post. It's called " We won't lose weight until...." and I wanted to share.

The last sentence really hit home to me.

"I personally came to realize that I had been trying to lose weight for all the WRONG reasons. Once I realized that I needed to lose weight so that I could be assured that I'd live a long and healthy life and that I needed to do it for ME and not for anyone else, everything became much clearer for me!

I won't say that the past 8 months have been "fun" but they've sure been rewarding to ME. It hasn't mattered whether anyone else noticed the loss or whether I looked better (although I do I think)...what mattered most was when I saw my doctor back in May and everything was DOWN -- weight, cholesterol, BP. The only thing UP was me and the way I felt!

Do whatever it takes to get your mindset right -- counselors are trained to help with things like this and the most important thing that learned with counseling was that I mattered. Yes, I did counseling after my divorce...not for my weight, but for the depression that I felt and the way I felt about myself. I came to realize that people are powerless -- their only power is my reaction to their actions.
Enormous "stress starter" at work was fired yesterday. A case of a real shame as its all due to drinking if you want my humble opinion. Anyone who can work fulltime, go out every night but for college class night and still maintain an A average in pre law is obviously very bright and capable. Why was she fired?? Tardiness and absenteeism. After 6.5 yrs, many, many warnings and 2nd chances. As I said, very bright. But the drinking was really skewing her view of life-- she thought the absenteeism issue was a " vendetta", questions about her projects were "stalking". A great person to see at a party but not so great to work with. Frankly, I am relieved but do hope this will be the "bottom" for her.
Which brings me to the thought of the day:

'Snap out of it...'
--from Moonstruck.

Question of the day :

"What was your 'bottom' regarding gaining weight?
What made you decide-- time to turn things around?"

Take care all!
Have a Wonderful "Wonderful Me Wednesday"!!

07-30-2003, 08:19 AM
Yikes! I've missed so many posts--how'd that happen?

Arabella, I too remember your photo from your 'Babette' days and thought you were beautiful. Very "french"-looking, know what I mean?
I'm betting that we all have felt how you did at the party. Never mind how I look, I'm still floored when I find out someone really like me! Kinda sad....why don't we realize our own worth?

Kaylets, from your ? a couple of days ago--I prefer the company of women, as long as they're not prim ladies----I'd rather it be someone I don't have to censor myself with, 'cause it can get pretty earthy if you catch my drift!;)

Today's question: wow, where to start....I had so many truly heartbreaking moments. Never being able to find clothes that fit, wearing the 'uniform' of leggings and big tops, seeing photos of myself with that miserable 'please don't take my pic" look, the time I went out on a friend's boat and was clothed head to toe because I couldn't bear wearing a bathing suit. I could go on and on.
I remember what really did it for me is having the thought that if I didn't really sincerely try to drop some weight, I'd never know what life could be like. Let's see if working out really does give me more energy and stamina, drop a couple of dress sizes, see what that feels like. And I made a plan that I'd stick with it for 3 months and if I didn't see a dramatic difference, them I'd resign myself to being over weight.
The first month I actually gained 6 pounds [?! :?: ?!], but I was committed to trying out this exercise/ healthy diet thing and when I saw the changes in my body and energy level I was hooked and I've never looked back!:)

07-30-2003, 10:52 AM
Fly by postie as need to get ready for gym. I do think this will be my last round of personal training days. I have two more and am frankly getting tired of having to pretend to be up for it when I'm clearly not. Think it'd be easier just to drag in and do my own thing! :)

Cerise, I know about that waiting for work nibbling. :sigh: You could learn to tat (shuttle)! You can't shuttle tat and nibble. It doesn't work!! :joker:

Re QODs: Re company of men vs. women, it depends on the activity planned! :s:

Re: The turning point in deciding to lose weight ... I known I've posted this before, but there were really two. The first was when I moved here from the midwest and saw my shadow for the first time in 30 years (because the sun is much closer to the earth here and thus brighter, more intense and shines all the time except during the monsoon)! The second was when my brother died at a relatively young age and I decided I would stay alive and get healthy for both of us! :)

Kaylets: Your coworker being fired must be kind of stressful for you even though a relief. It's just hard to see people in pain even though it's nice not to have to deal with the stress causers, but she'll likely be fine, though it might be too much to expect this is the "bottom" that will turn her life around. My experience has been that most people will just justify these things and eventually find another job. Survival mechanism. As far as drinking goes, this'll likely make it worse. As far as absenteeism, that usually is just a habit dependent on the tolerance of the employer, so if they let her get away with it for a long period of time, they share some of the blame, IMNHO!!!

Wood Nymph! I agree that you looked quite "French" in your pic! Tres jolie! (I think that means "very beautiful?" if not, forgive me for whatever it said, my French is rather bad!)

Avanti, all!!

07-30-2003, 11:39 AM
It is vacation eve! :cb: I've started packing and Bo-Beena and I have been making our plans! Tomorrow 'round 11am I'm headin' for California!!!! :dance: :cool: :dance:

Yesterday it got up to 103 - I have this urge to move to Alaska.... :dz: Yesterday no exercise, I pretty much just melted into my chair and watched Robin Williams on Broadway. :lol: Laughing is exercise right??

Cerise, I hear our heat's supposed to let up tomorrow - hang in there! Good sisterly job on saving your brother's keester! Your SIL would thank you if she knew, I'm sure!

Frogger, isn't it the pits after you move and can't find anything? I think I ate take out for a week or so after I moved too... Get some rest then find those pots n' pans!

Kaylets, you're right, that last sentence is a clincher isn't it? My mom had a signature on her email for a long time that said something like "life is 10% about what happens to you and 90% of how you react to it".
Feeling both sorry and happy about your co-worker. I agree with Amarantha though, this is more than likely not going to be her "bottom". I think most people come to their lowest points all on their own, not from something someone else did to them. They change when they want to, not when they think they have to - almost a universal truth with addiction isn't it? Hopefully this does open her eyes though.

Amarantha, oui! Your french in this case was tres correct! :lol:

Q o' the day ~
My bottom point was a number of things:
wheezing when I lay down, not being able to even paint my toenails without having to hold my breath, weighing more than my sturdy 6'1 stepfather, my dad's diabetes, mom's cancer, hating how puffy my face looked from the side, my borderline high blood pressure, and mostly, wondering what my life was going to be like in 10 or 15 years if I kept overfeeding my body the way I had been - wondering when the heart attack was going to happen...

This weekend away will be a test - my first since my recent mondo-weight loss success. Not that we usually sit and eat junk at Bo-Beena's, nooooo, but just that I'm away from home, away from my structure and eating with other people is always more difficult than when you're only having to worry about yourself. We have a menu started so there's no surprises, or getting too hungry (a big problem for both me n' Bo) and we'll do some grocery shopping when I get there. We'll see... but I feel good about it! I'm very, very ok with a small gain or maintenance next Monday though! Can't loose *all* the way 'till goal now can I?? What will I have learned from THAT? :dizzy:

Toodles for now!

07-31-2003, 07:04 AM
Hello all!

Have fun Punkin! How nice to be spending time with BoBeena!
Can't wait to hear what you two decide to do while together!

Empress- Looks like you are absolutely right- Ex-coworker is calling sympathetic ears to " set the story straight".
Very sad to also know she's mixing Busbar (sp?)
w/ liquor every day is frightening. Especially since she explained at length how red wine isnt a good mix, but white is, etc etc.

Anyway-- I am on my way --

Wildfire- glad to see you come by!
Thought of the day :

"It is by falling down we learn to stand."
Bob Perks

Question of the day :

"What do you think happened to the straw in strawberries ?"

07-31-2003, 07:46 AM
(I'm not really a French chick, I just play one on a forum ;) ) But I will take that as a compliment, bien sur! I feel much better now. I feel about 10 pounds slimmer than I did at that party. Part of the problem was ... clothes! I got some jeans at a thrift shop that are really too big. Ok immediately after they're washed, but then within an hour or so just WAY too baggy. Usually they make me feel skinnier because they're so loose, but I guess I felt like I was in a muumuu (how the heck do you spell that, anyway?) when so many were in sundresses or shorts and slinky little tops. Ah well, I'll get 'em next time!

I've got clothes that are slightly too tight, clothes that are too loose. Also have birthday $ from MIL that is going to get me some that FIT :cb: :cb:

Coping well with End-O-Month this time. I have only a reasonable amount of work to finish today along with a conference call summary that will take four or so hours. Very doable :) No binges, and I should be able to get in at least a run, if not some yoga and a run this morning. And tai chi tonight.

Punkin & Bo Beena -- have a blast! (As if there were any chance you wouldn't!)

I'd love to respond to all you best and brightest of women, but I spent to much time talking about ... me! :rolleyes: Hope to catch up with you tomorrow! A bientot! :love:

07-31-2003, 11:44 AM
I.... AM.... outta here! :wave:

I'll see you lovely ladies on Monday when I return!

Toodles! :cb:


07-31-2003, 12:52 PM
Hello Ladies,
I am NOT supposed to be on the computer, so much to do. That way I won't have to do anything while my beloved Punkin is here. But I couldn't resist peeking in to say hello.

Found out that I have borderline high blood pressure:?: Not happy about that. One more reason to continue down the path to good health. Thank you each and every one of you for your continued support :cp:
We will get :strong: and lean together :yes:
Maybe Punkin and I will pop on this weekend to say hello to you all!
But for now I must run :wave:
Enjoy the rest of your week, BoBeena

07-31-2003, 04:10 PM
Hey Ladies,
a very hot Thursday, even in Newfoundland may I add, so I put on shorts today. I`m planning on a camping trip this weekend...so may all go well with the rest of you. I am going to get motivated and I am starting that low carb diet on Monday. Exciting life....
pumpkinseed/Bo-beena- have fun in cali!
Cerise- snacking is my worst habbit. hard breaking the cycle. good luck at the gym.
Frogger- congrats on the 7lbs. I am starting the low carb on Monday (hopefully a productive month). Another veggie I thought was high in carbs is potato.
Kaylets- good articLE. FOR the Q my bottem point was last year when I came home from a summer sailing in Nova Scotia I was up to 170lbs and I realized for some 5`4 I had a challenge in front of myself. Right now I am 155lbs and I hope to reach 135lbs.
Eydie- post r so hard to keep up with.
Amarantha- I need to get to the gym too kick some a-- girl!
Arabella- shopping sounds wonderful right about now, I hope you find something that fit.

have a great weekend girls!

07-31-2003, 09:20 PM
Have a ball, Punkin and Bo Beena.

Congrats on good eom, wood nymph.

I've been awol a tad because dh whisked me a way for a brief respite. Loverly but too short. Had to get back. But tears are a little less close to the surface. Just came in from nursing home. Mom seemed better today. Yesterday's report/news was all down. Today, who knows?

07-31-2003, 10:40 PM
Hello all!

Anagram- Just had to comment- I too, had that feeling this past weekend- just below the surface...... Sometimes the best thing is to cry if we can find the place and the time.... for me at least, its a release....
Am so glad you and DH were able to get away... you both deserve it!! Especially after being chained to the house and the doctors this past winter.

Still got you here in the group hug, in fact, time for a big SQUEEZE.

-- see everyone in the am!

08-01-2003, 12:58 AM
Fly by postie and some more whining!

Bo-Beena (sp?) and Punkin, have a lovely visit; friendship is so invaluable, you never know what friends mean until you have no friends (I have no idea what that sentence meant but shall let it stand)!!!

Wood Nymph: Glad thou hast reverted to thy true thin self ... and, yes, I believe a muumuu (I don't know how to spell it either, but I long to live on a lovely tropical beach and wear one all day and watch the ocean lap over the golden sands and do nothing but talk with beloved Old Dog and play the ukelele and eat whatever I fancy) ... ummm .... might make anyone feel 10 pounds heavier than they are in reality.

Kaylets: Way back there thou quoted something about losing weight for the right reasons and for ourselves alone. I think that is right on ... was rereading it just now. Thanks.

I can't see the QOD from this screen. Will come back in edit and post an answer.

Ok, dokey. I'm editing ...

JENN!!! Have you looked into the South Beach Diet? It is a MUCH healthier alternative to Atkins. There's a lot of info on line, maybe some on 3FC, dunno. Also a book out. This is NOT just another fad diet. It seems in my not humble but also not a physician's opinion, to have real merit.

I do not do low carb myself, especially Atkins, but I am trying to eat more protein and eventually hope to only eat really quality carbs. So I can't give my perspective and shall spare you my opinion. I do know some diabetics who are sold on what Atkins does for their particular health needs.

QOD: I think the straw is all on the desert on the side of a new highway we have here. They've spread it all over the place as a kind of finishment, I assume it's to keep down the dust and let the natural desert come back in a scenic fashion ... or something like that ... anyway it looks nice!

Feeling very down (but plucky, of course). Another dream died today ... that of returning to college to become a registered dietician. I just can't make it happen and work at the same time. I'd even told the publisher, who told me that it sounded like a good idea as I seemed burned out as a journalist (not very nice thing to say, actually quite true, though, I didn't think she'd noticed). So when I saw how much traveling I'd have to do to take the classes that were only offered on a distant campus and how much it would cost, etc., I called her and said I'd like to continue employment in my old capacity ... the editor I was replacing in the newsroom will return tomorrow ... I avoided any mention of the burn-out thing ... so more dreams gone and back to square one ... at least I have the 21-day challenge!!! :)

Anagram: Hang in. You are doing great. Hope you keep on taking little breaks and taking things a day at a time! :wave:

Avanti, all ... will return and edit in a sec.

:blah: :gossip: :write: :callme: :mag: :blah: :gossip: :write::jig:

08-01-2003, 07:35 AM
Fabulous Friday!

Sorry Empress- But I know what you mean, I was looking at courses and prices and my jaw dropped-- was looking at distance classes etc and still the prices are amazing. I know here in Delaware, you only have to pay for books once someone is 60 but at that point I was thinking I'd take the fun courses.

Any chance you'd be intereted in writing about nutrition?? Seems like you have a solid self taught background........

Have more reasons to thank all of you for being here and so supportive. The other thread I mention occaisionally has suddenly become very non supportive. I will give it a few days to see what happens next but sure did remind me of how different
we are here. Thanks all!

Today's thought is:

"Your biggest Competitor if your own view of the future"
--Watt Wackler and Jim Taylor

Any questions all?? I'm out!

08-01-2003, 10:31 AM
So sorry to hear of dream dying, Empress - can we hope it's "dream rearranging"? I'm with Kaylets, I think writing about nutrition would be a satisfying outlet and combine both interests. Writing about something that interests you would be novel after all those "bored" meetings, wouldn't it?

Kaylets, the "tear" thing is unusual for me and I'm sure for you as well. and the way things have been going at your place, I'm not surprised they're there now. I've had it more than once the last eight months but the mom thing on top of the dh thing seems to have brought it to a higher level. The respite helped but they're still closer than I'd like. I do allow me time to cry when I feel I need to (but then the darn things don't want to come - they only like to come unbidden). Just like I allow myself time to feel down and agree with me that things are tough or whatever. I really feel I am and have always been a strong person but sometimes I resent the fact that others (meaning mostly family this time) look to me as always the strong one. It's sort of always been my "role" and now I want to change it. For the most part, my sibs are all pretty strong people (an exception or two may here be noted) so it's not like I need that job.

Anyway, today dh has another problem/situation and I was fortunate enough to get an appt for him with another dr in the practice. So that's where my pool time, etc. will be going today (a time conflict actually). So must make an effort to work out stress some other way today.

Have not been losing but satisfied with maintaining at the moment and, so far at least, can still say I'M HEALTHIER THAN I'VE BEEN IN YEARS.

I hope our Queen of Friday is having the best with her BoBeena!

08-01-2003, 06:07 PM
Yo! Thanks for the support, Kaylets and Anagram. Actually, no, I'm not much interested in writing at all anymore. My biggest problem now is I keep trying to tell my employer how I feel and that's a huge mistake ... I'll feel better next week, though.

Anagram: Sorry you are losing your pool time. Can you meditate or pace while dh is being looked at or do you need to be in the room with him all the time? Pacing is good, although people tend to think one strange! :)

Kaylets: I'm thinking of taking some fun courses as well. I've been amazed at the price of education here ... really need to find a program.

Sorry that "other" thread is not giving you the support you need. You are always so supportive of others, it's hard to see why they wouldn't . Dunno. Think it's the full moon or something. Everyone seems to be acting kind of weird here ... several people have been rude to me today ... people I thought liked me ... I think I shall become a hermit! :(

Avanti, all! Taking nap now!

08-01-2003, 06:51 PM
Empress - may we all feel better next week! Have run into a fair number of strange people this week but no overt rudeness. In fact have been impressed by niceness of workers at nursing home.

I have been trying to do my relaxation techniques, must be out of practice as they don't seem to be working as well as usual. But they help a bit. Well, had to be with him. He doesn't remember as much as he should - I don't mean Alzheimers or anything like that - just maleand not at all attuned to what's important for dr. to know and what's not. I've only been going to appts with him since the Dec. episode and have been amazed at his version of some things. Had to go to hosp for bloodwork as the lab in the dr. office wouldn't be able to get answer promptly since it was Friday afternoon. Bummer all around but I think it will come out ok.

My DIL is a pacer - never sits down. Of course she's also a runner, biker, etc. Very healthy.

Finally took the new Camry out for a drive. That was relaxing. And as of now, have at least the next two days to unwind. My day had been planned as pool, beauty shop, drive Camry, see "Seabiscuit". Did my own hair today so I'd be ok for dr. office, drove Camry. Think the show we could make of "Seabiscuit" will be full of Friday night dates so will wait for another day. Maybe a nice after dinner walk - it's lite sprinkling and sort of misty -- my kind of walking evening.

And I'm hungry so I'd better get to cooking (or assembling as it sometimes is).

zadie k
08-01-2003, 09:49 PM
I am now back, slightly more sane and hopefully never having to take the bar exam ever again. I have not steped on the scale in a couple o weeks, and I do not plan on it till Monday to give myself a little ramp up. Plus I am atempting to get back on track. I have been eating very poorly, not writing anything down and generally treating myself poorly. Must motivate and get on track. I justifyed yesterday as a slug day of recovery and today, well I have no real excuse.

The test was about as awful as I expected. Very long, very difficult and I do not get the results till October, which seems very far away. O well.

Realistically, I am not going to get down to 140 by labor day. But darn it, I will try. I ahve the next week off of work. I also have $40 to last till the 20th of August (paid the bills and the mortgage already), so this is going to be an interesting experiment. I also cannot use my credit cards. I am working so hard at getting oput of debt I will not backslide. I am two years and five months from getting the cards paid off. I may sell some books or disks to tide myself over.

At any rate, now I can go through and find out how everyone is doing. Gosh I missed a lot.