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lisa32989
11-19-2013, 01:01 PM
Time for a new thread!


Ishbel
11-19-2013, 04:11 PM
SO here is my third post of the day! I'm so sorry that I've been very quiet lately, I'm not usually so quiet as most of you may know. I've been a bit under the weather, in fact I'm at home with a sinus infection today and slightly whiney and complainy.

The reason that I've been quiet is that I'm actually 13 weeks pregnant. :yay: :D!! I kept it pretty quiet from anyone but my family and my most very close friends. I know a lot of people off line that read this forum so now that it's kinda out there I can now post on here. I'm super excited to be pregnant and managed to have only gained 4 lbs in my first trimester. Watching it slowly creep up is a little tough but it's all good and totally temporary. The biggest thing that I whine about now is the sinus infection. My worst fear was to get a sinus infection while pregnant because I cannot take my usual drugs for it (anytime I get a cold I get a sinus infection, it totally sucks). I've asked VIP more then once during the last couple of days "do you feel sorry for me? please feel sorry for me cause it makes me feel better cause I can't have my advil sinus night time!" lol I continue to make him laugh at least.

As a review the last year of my life, I am amazed that in one year I went to Scotland, became engaged, got married and got pregnant. I truly am blessed! :cloud9:

Hugs to you all, this forum is my saving grace I will try to be around more...first trimester is over perhaps the glowing will start at anytime? LOL

Later Skaters! :preg:

evepet
11-19-2013, 04:47 PM
The reason that I've been quiet is that I'm actually 13 weeks pregnant. :yay: :D!!
As a review the last year of my life, I am amazed that in one year I went to Scotland, became engaged, got married and got pregnant. I truly am blessed! :cloud9:

Wow - Congratulations! Glad I stopped by and saw your great news!:hug::hug: Also - I love all of your pictures... so many great ones, it's really hard to select favorites. I'm really happy for you. :)


dak1lls
11-19-2013, 04:57 PM
Love, love, love your pictures! What pure happiness you project, both in your posts and in your photos. I love the picture of you two with the breath taking landscape.

Congratulations on your pregnancy. It is a wonderful time in your life and you will look back and miss it at times. I was quite sick during each of my three pregnancies, so I feel for you with the morning sickness (why is it named that? mine was all day! lol.)

What a wonderful year you have had! It is so great that you can enjoy it and revel in your good fortune as well.

DRegan
11-19-2013, 09:58 PM
Ishbel your photos are amazing!!
Congrats on your pregnancy, so wonderful!:hug:
so great to hear such good news!
I wish you all the best! What an awesome year for
you and your hubby!

D:)

IdealProteinNewbie
11-19-2013, 11:05 PM
Ishbel: Congratulations! You look beautiful, confident and are absolutely glowing in your pictures!

lisa32989
11-19-2013, 11:16 PM
Thank you for sharing your beautiful pics with us
And congratulations!

Maile
11-20-2013, 09:30 AM
Ishbel: You look beautiful and radiantly happy in your pictures. I love the church and the landscape one with the two of you. Thanks for sharing.
That is so exciting that you are pregnant. You have had a romantic happy year. You deserve it. Take care of yourself, mom!

dak1lls
11-20-2013, 10:47 AM
Ishbel: You look beautiful and radiantly happy in your pictures. I love the church and the landscape one with the two of you. Thanks for sharing.
That is so exciting that you are pregnant. You have had a romantic happy year. You deserve it. Take care of yourself, mom!

Maile, did you see the dressing recipe i posted in the previous thread?

bubbleblower
11-20-2013, 05:05 PM
Congrats, Ishbel! What exciting news!!! And I love your photos! Glad I decided to stop in today. :)

Beck81
11-21-2013, 01:57 AM
Congratulations Ishbel! Your wedding pictures are great!

Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted for a while. I still read this thread. Maintaining is going well for me. It is a lot of work and I can't seem to eat too much but as long as I keep it off. I don't do many carbs at all and I use MFP all the time. I've settled at about 5 lbs more than my lowest but it seems where my body wants to be at. Still in size 4-6 which sure beats my old 22's! I met my goal last December but stayed on P1 until the New Year so I am coming upon one year of maintainence, can't believe it! I became a Grandma in August and am LOVING it! Shout out to LizRR, congrats on your new baby! I would have to look back at the names but I miss a lot of the people that were on the diet and posting regularly when I was like, Wuv, LizRR and Scorbett (where are you?) and many more. I hope everyone is doing well.

Sorry for the me post. I'll try to post more often.

Lolo70
11-21-2013, 02:24 AM
2x congrats! As to sinus infection: Try a commercial salt wash. Make sure you use sterile water. I am plagued by sinus inflammation and this helps. It may also help if your problem is bacterial.

Cheekyskeeter
11-21-2013, 07:45 AM
Congratulations Ishbel!! So happy for you. And I too love all of your pictures.

Maintenance is still going well for me. I too don't eat too many carbs but I'm ok with that.

EPAPRN
11-21-2013, 08:22 AM
Hi everyone. I don't know if you remember me, but I've been on and off maintenance since 2/2013. I was about 15 lbs from my goal when I found out I was pregnant and I phased off quickly. I had a miscarriage but stayed on maintenance since we were actively trying. I had another miscarriage in May. Since then I have gained about 13 lbs in total from Feb. I have done a reset, lost 8lbs and and as soon as I hit maintenance again, I gain it back. I had a consult with an infertility specialist and all of my hormone levels are normal, so I don't have hypothyroid or PCOS. I basically eat a P3 breakfast and fat with lunch, carb with dinner. Snacks are fruit, low fat cheese sticks, turkey and Swiss roll ups, peanuts. My coach cannot figure out why I keep gaining and not staying within a range of 5 lbs. I also do a P1 day after a fun day, and I have made the fun day a fun meal instead of a whole day. I have slowly added back exercise, since I have had a back injury that only left me able to walk, slowly. I am playing tennis now and I've started back at the gym with light weights and 30 min of cardio 2-3 times per week.

I am so discouraged right now. I chose this diet and spent so much money on it because it had a great maintenance plan for long term. I feel like such a failure. I know some of this is portion control, and I do like to bake, and even though I don't eat the finished product, I do occasionally sample the batter. Is that enough to make me gain weight?

My coach thinks I am sensitive to carbs and should follow a mostly P3 plan with a fun meal once per week. That's my next step. I am not really happy about it, because I love my fruit and wish I didn't have to restrict it to once daily. I understand bread, potatoes and pasta being somewhat unhealthy, but fruit being restricted goes against my internal feelings lol.

Anyone else have or had this problem? How did you deal with it?

DRegan
11-21-2013, 08:52 AM
Hi EPAPRN,

So sorry to hear of your miscarriages,:hug: have a few friends dealing with this, it can be so stressful.
I'm sure it doesn't make it easy on your body also.

As far as maintaining I realized I am very carb sensitive, I've been following
the Paleo lifestyle and its been working great. I do only have one to two peices of fruit a day or I see an increase slightly on the scale,
I know its crazy, but it comes down to being carbs(sugar), natural or not, ugh! Probably causing inflammation more than fat.
And I love my fruit too. :dizzy:

One day at a time, hang in there! You'll figure out what will work for you.;)

D

dak1lls
11-21-2013, 08:53 AM
Hi everyone. I don't know if you remember me, but I've been on and off maintenance since 2/2013. I was about 15 lbs from my goal when I found out I was pregnant and I phased off quickly. I had a miscarriage but stayed on maintenance since we were actively trying. I had another miscarriage in May. Since then I have gained about 13 lbs in total from Feb. I have done a reset, lost 8lbs and and as soon as I hit maintenance again, I gain it back. I had a consult with an infertility specialist and all of my hormone levels are normal, so I don't have hypothyroid or PCOS. I basically eat a P3 breakfast and fat with lunch, carb with dinner. Snacks are fruit, low fat cheese sticks, turkey and Swiss roll ups, peanuts. My coach cannot figure out why I keep gaining and not staying within a range of 5 lbs. I also do a P1 day after a fun day, and I have made the fun day a fun meal instead of a whole day. I have slowly added back exercise, since I have had a back injury that only left me able to walk, slowly. I am playing tennis now and I've started back at the gym with light weights and 30 min of cardio 2-3 times per week.

I am so discouraged right now. I chose this diet and spent so much money on it because it had a great maintenance plan for long term. I feel like such a failure. I know some of this is portion control, and I do like to bake, and even though I don't eat the finished product, I do occasionally sample the batter. Is that enough to make me gain weight?

My coach thinks I am sensitive to carbs and should follow a mostly P3 plan with a fun meal once per week. That's my next step. I am not really happy about it, because I love my fruit and wish I didn't have to restrict it to once daily. I understand bread, potatoes and pasta being somewhat unhealthy, but fruit being restricted goes against my internal feelings lol.

Anyone else have or had this problem? How did you deal with it?

Your post really resonates with me. I am not a breakfast eater so I have a shake each morning. I generally stick to a P2 style of eating on maintenance. I seem to be ok with fats at lunch, which is mostly some cheese and a fattier salad dressing. I have had a couple of dinners with carbs (pasta) but for the most part I do my protein and veggies, like P1, but I don't measure. I also still have my daily snack. I have had fun meals, not really fun days, and follow up with a P1 or P2 day....which essentially seems to be the same thing. I am maintaining my losses so far. I know there are different types of carbs, but I really seem to do the worst with anything containing refined carbs. When I have had sweets I've tried to make them grain free and refined sugar free. Each time I didn't do that I immediately swelled up and bloated. I just know in my heart this is the way I have to eat from now on.

I am no expert, but the first thing I would eliminate is refined sugar and flour. See how it goes and then try some Paleo types of baked goods when you have a sweet tooth. 65x65 recommended a book about carbs that others have read and found very helpful. I just don't remember the name, but perhaps you can find it by doing a search. :hug::hug:

lisa32989
11-21-2013, 11:11 AM
I am no expert, but the first thing I would eliminate is refined sugar and flour. See how it goes and then try some Paleo types of baked goods when you have a sweet tooth. 65x65 recommended a book about carbs that others have read and found very helpful. I just don't remember the name, but perhaps you can find it by doing a search. :hug::hug:
Agreed! The book "The Art and Science of Low Carb Living" is great for helping us understand that some "healthy" things (grains, fruits, for example) may be "healthy" but not especially good for US, especially in larger amounts. Fruit once/day is not unrealistic. More often could cause insulin spikes in folks particularly sensitive. If you are struggling with weight, you may be one of those particularly sensitive folks.

My entire Pinterest is filled with paleo goodies and meals I've found. I have yet to make any. I'll make my low carb sugar-free//grain-free crustless pumpkin "pie" for Thanksgiving, although I'm thinking of making a smaller one so I don't have as many leftovers.

Another thought: are you using MFP or another tracking program? It can help you observe calorie/net carb content and see which adjustments are working.

bubbleblower
11-21-2013, 12:16 PM
I have found that I can only do fruit and grains once per day. That's why I've stayed with the P3 big breakfast. For lunch and dinner it's mostly protein, veggies, and good fats. If I start snacking on GF grains or fruit, my weight starts going up.

Ishbel
11-21-2013, 04:13 PM
EPAPRN I'm so very VERY sorry about your miscarriages :hug: :(


You truly are NOT a failure, maintenance is a tough business. I'm extremely sensitve to carbs and usually only have two fruit a day with the grain carbs in the morning with a Ph3 breakfast (my fruit are morning and with my protein snack at night). Supper really is just meat and veggies almost 99% of the time. VIP generally only has a shake in the morning as he chooses to have popcorn more often then not and truely isn't a breakfast eater. I think the only reason that he has the shake is that I harp at him for "something in the morning to get the fire burning". I keep it generally to a fun meal once a week, at the beginning it was the whole day. Please please don't feel like a failure look at how far you've come.

dak1lls
11-21-2013, 06:49 PM
EPAPRN, I meant to add my sympathies to you on your recent miscarriages. I had two pregnancies end in miscarriages and it is a loss that is truly heartbreaking. There is nothing I can say but please know that I am so sorry you have had to go through this. :hug:

EPAPRN
11-21-2013, 08:58 PM
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice. I'm going to try to stick with P3 in mIntenance and see where I go from there. I think the healthy fats once a day like avocado or cheese will be ok, I truly think it's the carbs.

Also - Ishbel - your pics are beautiful, congratulations on both your wedding and your pregnancy! Scotland is truly the most beautiful place I've ever been and you are lucky to have gone there also! Is your husband from Scotland?

Maile
11-22-2013, 09:20 AM
Epaprn. I was also so sorry to hear about your miscarriages.
This maintenance is difficult and especially if we have been overweight before.
I am like some others here. I only a fruit and grain in the morning and then stick with meats and veges the rest of the day. Once in awhile I might have a small carb. I hope you do well with your P3 and low carb eating.

Dak1lls: I did miss the recipe and found it! I love all of the herbs and spices. I am going to try it this weekend. I like having the dry mix to add to for a quick dressing. I think it would make a good marinade. Thanks.

Lisa32: Thanks for the input on the mockamole: I am going to try it..although our asparagus have been decreasing in flavor. I think it would be good for a P1 day. I wish I had known about it in my P1 losing days. That crustless pumpkin pie is a good one.

Becky: You are on your way to one year of maintenance. Great job!

This very cold weather is driving me indoors to the gym!!!

dak1lls
11-22-2013, 12:21 PM
As I progressed towards my goal I looked forward to my fun days, or fun meals. There were certain foods I was really excited to have again. Each time I have indulged in one of my prior favorite, and much anticipated foods, I have been disappointed that the taste of it was not what I have anticipated. Case in point; I used to have a Starbucks venti skinny vanilla latte several times per week. This morning I decided to have one....for the first time in over 6 months! What a surprise! It did not taste good. It actually tasted "odd" to me. These foods always provided such comfort and contentment to me. I placed so much importance on how good it felt to eat so many things, and now I don't even like them anymore....and I really don't like how they make me feel. Maybe I am placing too much importance on this revelation, but this feels like a real turning point for me. IP has provided many insights for me along the way.

lisa32989
11-22-2013, 12:37 PM
As I progressed towards my goal I looked forward to my fun days, or fun meals. There were certain foods I was really excited to have again. Each time I have indulged in one of my prior favorite, and much anticipated foods, I have been disappointed that the taste of it was not what I have anticipated. Case in point; I used to have a Starbucks venti skinny vanilla latte several times per week. This morning I decided to have one....for the first time in over 6 months! What a surprise! It did not taste good. It actually tasted "odd" to me. These foods always provided such comfort and contentment to me. I placed so much importance on how good it felt to eat so many things, and now I don't even like them anymore....and I really don't like how they make me feel. Maybe I am placing too much importance on this revelation, but this feels like a real turning point for me. IP has provided many insights for me along the way.
I've found my list of items I'd like to add back keeps shrinking.
I like the way I feel WITHOUT them way too much.
This is the stuff maintenance is made of & isn't it great when we're not resisting...we actually don't WANT it!

Some examples for me:
I still like cheese and will eat it "out" but don't trust myself to have it at home yet (previous binge food).
I love guacamole but the things you eat it with give me puffy hands/feet, which tells me that is an automatic inflammatory response. But I can have it on a salad (in place of dressing) or as a dipping sauce for other foods I might order (fajitas, for example, which I eat sans tortilla)
I like an occasional adult beverage. But I have to be REALLY careful b/c I don't have the tolerance I used to. I went for a HH last nite and had ONE glass of wine, which I set down several times so I could make it last. I like the hydrated feeling much better than the slightly dehydrated feeling.
Anything gluten/wheat containing also gives me that immediate hand/feet puffiness so I'm avoiding many convenience foods. I got the same reaction when I had some carefully-ordered Chinese last week, but I probably ate too much rice (for some things, my measuring cup will still be my friend).
I can feel blood sugar spikes with a few bites of something sweet so I'll remain mostly sugar-free, as well (had a couple of bites of DH's dessert when we ate out)I REALLY like that my clothes still fit (some are actually loosening-up). People are still asking me if I'm losing. I am purposely not monitoring the scale right now. I'm giving it a few weeks to "adjust" for slightly higher carb levels. It will also give me a more accurate picture of how much more I'll want to drop in January, when I return to P1. My scale was all-over-the-place for a bit but it looked like I was settling around about 165. So, 15-20 is my expectation for January.

Maile
11-23-2013, 09:57 AM
I used to think that stuffing was one of my favorite foods. Last year I had one half a cup and decided it was not as good as I remembered.
I used to crave sugar foods and now rarely eat deserts or sweets. I really don't miss them.
I was a skinny vanilla latte fan also..but don't really want those anymore.

It is an interesting journey learning about changing tastes. I do plan on indulging in a maitai in Hawaii..we will see if it is as good as I remember it!

dak1lls
11-23-2013, 10:15 AM
I used to think that stuffing was one of my favorite foods. Last year I had one half a cup and decided it was not as good as I remembered.
I used to crave sugar foods and now rarely eat deserts or sweets. I really don't miss them.
I was a skinny vanilla latte fan also..but don't really want those anymore.

It is an interesting journey learning about changing tastes. I do plan on indulging in a maitai in Hawaii..we will see if it is as good as I remember it!

The Mai Tai sounds good! I had a beer with clamato juice and green olives the other night and it was pretty yummy. :D

lisa32989
11-23-2013, 10:34 AM
My husband and I LOVE craft (micro) beers. I've taken to just sampling his. I just can't justify the cals/carb in beer (or perhaps I'd rather eat!)

Other things are as good as I remember. I had a dirty martini last nite. Half would have been sufficient alcohol-tolerance-wise.

This week will be 3 days in a row of social events & deciding to having a drink (Th, fr, sat) + not micromanaging food intake (but not overindulging). I'll be matching that with 3 days of p1 (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday) before going back to my mostly p3 days.

I was talking with some friends last nite who have both lost & maintained. They said they eat VERY carefully Sun-Thurs & can be a little looser Fri & Sat (but not hog-wild binges). Keeping binge behavior in-check will be my biggest maintenance challenge. Some of that will be managed by not keeping preferred binge foods at home until I feel "safe" around them.

patns
11-23-2013, 12:10 PM
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice. I'm going to try to stick with P3 in mIntenance and see where I go from there. I think the healthy fats once a day like avocado or cheese will be ok, I truly think it's the carbs.


I am sorry for the heartache you have gone through and then the back injury on top of that.

As for the regain questions, I too instantly started gaining in phase 3. For me it is no wheat ever, and I count the 2 pieces of fruit as my main carbs. Berries are the best choice for fruit as they have lots of fibre. I don't know why IP suggests the carbs at supper, I don't eat things like rice just to have an unnecessary carb.

I learned from the Art and Science of Low Carb Living that the body rebels with long time low cal, low carb and low fat. The thing that has to go up is healthy fats. To me that means a more liberal splash of olive oil, some almonds, but I do really have to watch myself with the nuts, the carbs in them add up pretty fast. The avocardo is an excellent choice.

I think many of us who turn to IP are super carb sensitive and have to work out maintenance to fit our particular metabolism.

For me it was a shock to come out of ketosis and realize how hungry I was going to be. I rapidly regained 10 pounds which I am slowly working off. It is slow but I have added some daily weight training. I wish I had read the Art and Science book earlier and realized I didn't have to be so hungry.

People who have no trouble with phase 3 seem to go on to maintain well. Those of us who start to gain at that phase need to figure out what long term plans will work better for us.

You are doing very well because you are keeping the regain at a lower number and working on it before it gets out of hand.

Pat

Maile
11-24-2013, 10:10 AM
Patns: Thanks for that reminder. I have been wanting to order that book and wrote the title down again. I agree with you that many people at IP are super carb sensitive and that is why it works so well. are you enjoying your new muscles from St? I really like seeing muscles on my arms for the first time in years.
Lisa: martinis are just as good as remembered! They are charging 15 dollars for a martini or a maitai in Hawaii. Yikes.

Dak1lls: I like beer also..but have never tried it with clamato juice and green olives. That sounds good. I did like your Italian dressing. It was great and now I can make more! Thanks.

Lizzy63
11-24-2013, 05:32 PM
Congrats, Ishbel! I am so excited for you and your hubby! I missed the wedding photos - saw the posts yesterday, but no time to look at the photos, and can't find them now. I know you were a beautiful bride from the photos you posted right after the wedding.

Beck - congrats on becoming a grandma - welcome to the club. GKs are so much fun.

EPAPRN - sorry you are struggling. I remember you posting about miscarriages some time ago. Hugs!

I am coming up on my one year maintenance anniversary soon. A bit over my range now and trying to get back on track. It was relatively easy for quite a while, but I really got off track on vacation. Seems like the more carbs I have, the more I want... I was one that lost even through phase 3. I feel like my metabolism has slowed over time since starting maintenance. First 6 months or so, I was amazed at how many calories I could eat, but it seems like something has changed...

Maile
11-26-2013, 10:25 AM
Lizzy63, I think with time that your body's metabolism gets too used to your eating and exercise and slows down. The exercise experts keep saying to vary your workouts and to vary your intensity. This is hard to do when you are working at just getting the exercise in!
In Refuse to Regain she comments that a previously overweight person actually burns less calories doing the same exercise as a never overweight person. Our metabolisms have definitely been altered.
In the State of Thin she talks about revving up your metabolism with mini high protein meals.
Working on up pounds is part of maintenance. I am glad you are on your way to a one year anniversary!

Ishbel
11-26-2013, 01:37 PM
dak1lls There are many foods that I can't stomach anymore, I just do not miss pasta where I used to have it weekly. I do indulge in a hamburger on fun day but will take off half the bun. I can stomach 'some' wheat just not a lot of it.

lisa totally get it on keeping stuff out of the house. I started maintenance in May but it wasn't until that Christmas that chocolate was allowed to 'stay' in the house. I remember saying to VIP "ok, so there is left over chocolate and I think I'll put it in the cupboard and see if I can stay away"...that chocolate is still in the cupboard.

lizzy WOOT WOOT for one year in maintenance! Way to go! :)!!

lolo I always get sinus infections and I'm a HUGE fan of the netipot. But I'm also a fan of advil cold and sinus with antihistamine (which I can't have lol)...getting really tired of being 'sick' as I'm on my second round of antibodics.

maile I have yet to download the refuse to regain book and I'm not sure I want to read it right now...as I'm suppose to be gaining. Might be worth it when I've wrapped my head properly around the creep up. I feel selfish but it's hard to watch even though my cravings are around tomatoes (two weeks of massive amounts of tomatoes lol) and carrots (so far).

Hope everyone has a great day!

dak1lls
11-26-2013, 01:50 PM
Ishbel: I loved pasta as well but now that you mention it, I don't really have any desire to eat it lately. Ironically, I have never liked hamburgers with a bun. The bun has always been too filling and I never really enjoyed the taste. Most of the time I would order a hamburger steak, or just take the bun off. Well, a couple of weeks ago I was CRAVING a McDonald's Quarter Pounder with Cheese. I just felt I HAD to have it! I ate it, with the bun, and an order of fries. It made me very full, but surprisingly not as sick as when I have had other foods with wheat. I did end up with a bad migraine though, so I am thinking there were a lot of chemicals in that meal.

This week I am doing P2, out of habit mostly, and because I feel so good when I eat like this. Every single time I add more dairy, wheat, more sugar, etc...I start feeling sluggish and tired. It seems to work for me this way and I feel I can have a treat when I feel like it. My treats seem to be Paleo baked goods mostly, so I guess that's better than a lot of other things. I am curious to see how I do at Thanksgiving. I know I will be having anything that looks yummy to me, but I won't be surprised if I can only eat a small amount. One nice thing is that I get full very fast on heavy foods, but I can eat a huge steak! lol.

Wesstrom
11-28-2013, 07:57 AM
So I've seen many posts about this from people on P1. It was never an issue however on P 3&4 it is now an issue for me. Any one else experience this?

Lizzy63
11-28-2013, 09:46 AM
Maile - you are so diligent about keeping up with all of the latest books about diet and low carb lifestyle. Is there one in particular (maybe 2) that you would recommend as the most helpful?

Wesstrom - sorry you're having that issue. I recall having a bit of an adjustment period as I transitioned to maintenance. Maybe a couple of days where my digestion was "off." How long has it been? Are you getting plenty of veggies and regular exercise?

Planning to make an apple pie with Splenda as my treat today - looking forward to that!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYONE!

Maile
11-28-2013, 11:11 AM
Lizzy63. You might check out the state of thin. She really focuses on metabolism. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. That apple pie sounds like a treat.
Westrom, I did not have that problem. Are you getting in all of you vegetables?

Dakills. Have a good T day. It will be interesting to see what appeals to you.

Ishbel, you are gaining for a good cause. Your cravings are a lot healthier than mine were.

Well the maitais are as good as I remembered,,but I found that I was content to have one and stop. The fresh fish is amazing!

Lizzy63
11-28-2013, 03:00 PM
Maile - could it be "State of Slim" rather than "State of Thin?" Having a hard time finding that. Thanks!

Wesstrom
11-28-2013, 09:54 PM
I've only been in phase 4 for a week, but noticed in in p3 as well, I've been pretty good about getting my veggies in, plus my fruit in the morning. I have quit measuring the veggies thinking I'm getting more then the 4 cups but maybe ill measure to just to see for the next couple of days.

I was wondering if it was just a readjustment , hoping that's all it is.

Thanks for the replies

Maile
11-29-2013, 11:39 AM
Lizzy63. It was The State of Slim. About the Colorado State healthy people.you can look at it on Amazon.
Westrom I hope you are feeling better on Phase 4.

Can you believe my hotel room has a scale? No gain from turkey day.

sunnymae
11-29-2013, 12:16 PM
Good morning Ladies
I wrote a long post the other day that got deleted and was too lazy to repeat myself, so I'll chime in today for post thanksgiving :0)
I've been loving reading all the post on this thread and to this day comforted and encouraged by all of you.
I've been on a very slow reboot with 11lbs to go. I was up 16lbs when I started.I'm finally starting to see the old new me again, which is rewarding.
I agree with the gals who have been finding that most carbs are just not right for their bodies. Whether GF breads, even good grains or legumes...my body does not move those foods thru my body and I always gain from them.
This reboot has been an opportunity to redefine and customize my maintenance program.
Last time, I was so paranoid about not following IP to the letter with the big breakfasts and carbs at night, etc., that I disregarded my bodies personal messages to Me!
So, this time I am listening and I know I will be fine from here on in with diligence of course.
I'm forever grateful for this group and all of our combined wisdom and experience.

Lizzy63
11-30-2013, 10:10 AM
Sunnymae - sounds like you are in a good place with your reboot. Keep it up!

Maile - got the book yesterday and read the whole thing. Very interesting. I'm wondering if I can successfully reset my metabolism without doing this for quite so long. I don't want to lose quite that much weight - just a few pounds - will definitely try some of the ideas, and it was a good reminder that I need to get in more exercise. (I'm sure Robin - my dog - won't mind a bit!) really want to try the chili recipe with pumpkin too.

Ishbel - hope you are feeling better! Lucky for you that you are craving carrots and tomatoes!

patns
11-30-2013, 06:17 PM
Maile, you are like me, a book junkie. It is quite dangerous now that I am also a Kindle addict.

But seriously want do you all think about starting a thread that could be like a book club? It would have to be for maintenance if we stayed with the IP section.

I downloaded and have started the Colorado book and as I was reading it I thought, I wish I could discuss this with someone just like in my real life bookclub (OK I will admit, it's actually book clubs).

Lizzy63
12-01-2013, 12:54 PM
Patns - I will join in if you start one. One thread for all books, or a thread for this book, and then another book/thread later? Might get confusing if we're discussing different books.

I am a big reader (on my nook), but mostly fiction.

lisa32989
12-01-2013, 12:58 PM
Love it!
"maintainers book club"

Ishbel
12-02-2013, 12:55 PM
lizzy Don't get me wrong, MacDonald’s has called my name and so has a commercial on Tostitos and cheese dip. I'm just managing to keep it 'small' indulgences' and still only once weekly as my goal it to let the weight 'creep' up. But it really is tomatoes and Christmas oranges that are calling my name. My sisters said nothing really changed for them either so maybe I'm lucky? SALT, oh my...I love salt right now! ha!

I'm feeling better, the sinus infection is done and I managed to get all 11 items done off my 'to do' list yesterday. Had I included 'nap' on the list I would have completed 12. I even got a light workout in which made me feel REALLY good. I wanted to do more than 30 minutes but after such a break I decided to take it slow and keep it to 30 minutes per workout this week. Speaking of tomatoes I had some cherry tomatoes that looked a 'little old' to be in a salad that I almost tossed but decided that would be wasteful and baked them with parmesan flavored olive oil and garlic. After they were cooked I added some mozza on top and sprinkled some epicure pizza herbs on top. SO SO SO good, might have to do it again!

I’ve popped (early I think but what do I know?), I don’t think Martha is helping me though so I’m already in mat tops. VIP was gone for 7 nights and 6 days and he came back to a belly LOL.

patns
12-02-2013, 08:14 PM
Ishbel, I had missed your very important post. Congratulations! Another little Riders fan on the way! You are right about having a wonderful year with so many life changing events.

Well I said, I would start a book thread and got waylaid. Mainly by battleing the elements the past week. There was a 21 car pileup yesterday just down the road from where I live, so it sure is nasty out.

I think if I start the thread I will put Book chat with maintenance in brackets. I don't want to get in trouble for getting people in phase 1 confused.
Pat

lisa32989
12-02-2013, 08:36 PM
Patns: Let us know in advance which book we should be ordering! (unless it is available on Kindle...then I can nab it quickly)

patns
12-03-2013, 12:22 AM
Right now I am doing State of Slim. Do we all want to do the same one? I have it on my kindle which is not my favorite choice for books with recipes but so much cheaper. I also have the Art and Science on on there too. Let me know if you all have preferences.

Back to add, flipping further ahead in state of Slim, the food part is really about losing weight rather than maintaining. most people here use IP for the weight loss stage. But the book does have a balanced approach with exercise being very important.

lisa32989
12-03-2013, 01:06 AM
Slime? :rofl:

Thanks for the giggle before bed.

I just pictured ALL FOOD as slime. It wasn't pretty. :p

Sometimes typos are fun. Or...I'm just easily amused when it is past my bedtime...

patns
12-03-2013, 01:31 AM
I wondered who you were talking about and realized it was moi! Fixed it.

lisa32989
12-03-2013, 01:38 AM
Oh, slime was much more fun!

Maile
12-03-2013, 09:58 AM
Patns: I will poat on your book thread. I already have the book.

Lizzy63 I tried the chili pumpkin. It was fairly good but I spiced it up a lot.

Lisa: I have been thinking about getting a kindle!

Ishbel: Keep enjoying those tomatoes and oranges. How fun that you fit maternity tops! How nice to have sisters for consultations!

Back from my trip to snow. Up one pound which is Ok.

FitMom02
12-03-2013, 10:06 AM
The book club sounds like a wonderful idea! I'm going to start phasing off sometime soon (hopefully), and this would be really helpful. Great idea!!

sarita75
12-03-2013, 01:00 PM
Hello all. I was directed here by Lisa. I started P4 last week and am lost. I have no clue about how to eat and, as a result, have been following P3 mostly. I would love any help and guidance you all might have and look forward to checking in regularly in here.


Thanks!
Sarah

Lizzy63
12-03-2013, 07:44 PM
I have State of Slim. I vote for that one first, but will join in regardless.

Sarah - I thought of phase 4 as phase 3 with extras initially. I still do mostly phase 3 with an extra snack or carb here and there. Somehow thinking about it that way made it easier for me.

joysh
12-03-2013, 09:21 PM
Hi Everyone! Happy holiday season! I know I haven't posted in about a month. I've been fine. Went up about 3-4 pounds during the past 2 weeks when my sister was visiting and Thanksgiving holiday came and went. I enjoyed it. Now I'm back on P 1 for a few days and then I'll be careful during the next 2 weeks. This maintenance is really a continuing process. I'm going on 8 months of maintenance and am really happy about that!

Ishbel: Congrats! How wonderful! It's been an amazing year for you!

Lizzy, wow! One year!

Maile, how was Hawaii?

Epaprn, sorry to hear about your miscarriages and other challenges. Sending light and love and hugs your way.

Patns, a book thread sounds great.

Beck, congrats on a GK! Yes, they are wonderful.

Last January my daughter's MiL started IP. She was ready to have surgery but saw me and my smaller body and decided to try IP. She as lost over 75 pounds and looks fantastic! Another friend of my also began last spring and has lost ove 65 pounds. It feels really wonderful to have inspired others to stay OP and lose their weight.

I'm determined to keep this off and not regain, but I admit that it's an Ongoing effort.

Warm hugs to you all!

EPAPRN
12-04-2013, 06:37 AM
I met with my coach last night....and I am up 12 lbs. I told her I was planning to do a few P1 days to help after my birthday/Thanksgiving fun days, and she told me no more than 1 P1 day per week. She also told me no messing around with extra P1 due to active TTC. She did say to follow P3 and occasionally add in a fat serving but no carbs other than breakfast. Something about needing the extra b vitamins and reg carb servings to help my mood. ( I told her I am a bit depressed due to all the stuff going on). I feel so terrible after eating any type of carb.

She gave me a good suggestion for my hot chocolate craving : 1 c almond milk and a packet of Splenda/stevia, unsweetened cocoa warmed in the microwave or in a pan on the stove. She also directed me to the Nashua site for so,e alternatives.

I still think I'm going to do a few days of P1, but all I have for food is premier protein shakes and 4 IP packets until next week. The PP shakes have a lot of protein in them!

EPAPRN
12-04-2013, 06:40 AM
Sarita: maintenance was explained to me as P3, but add one serving of fat with lunch (tuna with real mayo on a salad or chicken Caesar salad with real dressing and/or cheese, no croutons), and add one serving of carbs to dinner (1/2c brown rice or quinoa, 1/2 sweet potato, fruit or a slice of whole grain bread). Snacks can be cheese sticks, nuts, a piece of fruit, or a packet/shake of your choice.

Ishbel
12-04-2013, 10:58 AM
Sarita: maintenance was explained to me as P3, but add one serving of fat with lunch (tuna with real mayo on a salad or chicken Caesar salad with real dressing and/or cheese, no croutons), and add one serving of carbs to dinner (1/2c brown rice or quinoa, 1/2 sweet potato, fruit or a slice of whole grain bread). Snacks can be cheese sticks, nuts, a piece of fruit, or a packet/shake of your choice.

Sarita: The above is a good description of Ph 4, I would usually save my carb for my evening snack and have fruit and greek yogurt.

I also went back in the threads as infoplease also gave a good description of Ph 4.

I've been thinking about this a lot -- what information to give someone still in P1 that might help in maintenance, so, thanks for asking.

I think the biggest thing, is that your p1 lunch and dinner is going to become the main ingredients of your p4 lunch and dinner. So use p1 to learn both quick things to throw together and tasty things you enjoy when it comes to preparing salads, meats and vegetables. Then with p4, you are going to "enhance" lunch with a broader range of vegetables and some fat--like cheese or nuts or mayonnaise or unsweetened coconut, and your are going to "enhance" dinner with a broader range of vegetables, and perhaps a serving(!) of potato or pasta or rise or quinoa and/or fruit.

You want the mindset that things you know aren't particularly healthy--cake, ice cream, chips, etc--are only to be eaten on your fun day except for the rarest of exceptions. And if you slip, you get right back on track with the very next meal.

Plus, you'll want to think about whether you are going to keep artificial sweeteners part of your diet or not and how or if you want to transition from the IP/alternative products you have been using.

Once you move along in that direction for awhile, then you experiment with what is OK for a snack--what are still trigger foods? can you handle popcorn? a glass of wine? cheese? nuts? chocolate?

It is still going to take focus to maintain. The diet is never really "over"; it is the unbalanced diet part that has the beginning, middle and end. Maintenance is less socially isolating, but you still only have one day a week where you don't have to pay attention to what you put in your mouth (well, sort of. Because some of what you eat can make you feel sick, so you think twice.) So the "tricks" you learn in p1 for social situations--drink sparkling water with lime, it's about socializing not necessarily eating, eat before the event if appropriate--are sometimes going to be used in p4 as well.

Hopefully, you will become a big breakfast eater and enjoy the p3 breakfasts that carry over into p4. It gives you real food -- fruit! oatmeal! toast! yoghurt! -- to look forward to every day, and often keeps you full until lunch.

Last thing, start thinking about exercise if you haven't already. You'll need to think of something or a variety of somethings that you are willing to do most days (5 out of 7). You can try stuff on P1 if you keep the pace moderate to slow. Check out weight training, zumba, Les Mills, spinning, even walking or at least be thinking about the things you're going to try once you are close to or at your goal.

Read the Maintenance threads and find all of Maile's quotes and book recommendations. You'll also find some back-and-forth on meal frameworks, snack ideas, how much people do/don't exercise, vacation victories, and "stuff".

Keep pursuing your goal. You'll be a maintenance pro before you know it.

Disclaimer: I do not consider myself a maintenance pro.
This is the 3rd time I've lost over 50 lbs. P4 so far seems to be the most liveable maintenance. I have made it to the 1 year mark at least twice before (I think), so I'm shooting for the 2 year mark as my next goal. I'm currently at over 13 months (at lowest maintained weight ever!).

+++++++++++++++

Pat and Joysh: Thanks :) Pat, funny you should mention the riders, what gave you that idea :D - when we announced on facebook it was right before Grey Cup and I had a rider mat top on and VIP had his jersey and the post said "either way something big is happening for the Riders soon". I was so happy to have experienced the Grey Cup in Regina when they won...amazing :) The poor kid will be in rider and star wars gear I'm sure.

patns
12-04-2013, 03:09 PM
Ha Ishbel. I am in NE Alberta and listen to a radio station gears to the agricultural crowd. One of the young DJs is from Sask and a diehard Rider fanatic. He takes constant ribbing from the retired farmers who call in all the time to tease him and gives as much as he gets, so I hear a lot about the Riders. I am in the car a lot during the day with my job.

So I was thinking, the poor kid won't have a choice!

So happy for you!

Maxxy
12-04-2013, 08:28 PM
Hi guys! I am starting phase 4 next week. I had reached my initial goal awhile ago but decided to lower it. I think I am finally there. I'm very nervous about maintenance. Not that I will cheat but more that I get so excited about losing, that I won't feel defeated by just not gaining. Sounds strange I know but it's a head game....

I am going to try a p2/3 type day and add a fat at lunch and a carb at supper. I will give it a shot and see how it goes.

I'm the lowest weight I have ever been in the last 35 years of my life! I have no plans of screwing that up!

I hope to stay posted and get great advice from all you "maintainers"!

Maile
12-05-2013, 10:07 AM
Maxxy: I am also the lowest weight I have been in many years. You have done well and I know you will be a success on maintenance. It is scary at first but it gets easier.

Epap: I hope your new plan goes well. Thanks for sharing that hot chocolate idea with the almond milk. Nice low carb food.

Evepet: Hawaii was sunny and warm. I am not adjusting well to the ice and cold.

dak1lls
12-05-2013, 10:36 AM
Epap, I just love almond milk with granola. I never even thought of making hot chocolate with it! Thanks for the tip. I am going to try it this weekend. It is minus 6 right now, with a minus 28 wind chill. Hot chocolate sounds good.

Maxxy, congratulations on reaching maintenance. I agree with Maile, it is scary but gets easier. I have been able to maintain so far and realize it is an ongoing journey and I must be diligent and not get lazy. The important thing is to continue to keep good foods in your fridge and pantry.

Have a great day all!

sarita75
12-05-2013, 02:26 PM
Sarita: maintenance was explained to me as P3, but add one serving of fat with lunch (tuna with real mayo on a salad or chicken Caesar salad with real dressing and/or cheese, no croutons), and add one serving of carbs to dinner (1/2c brown rice or quinoa, 1/2 sweet potato, fruit or a slice of whole grain bread). Snacks can be cheese sticks, nuts, a piece of fruit, or a packet/shake of your choice.
Awesome explanation! Thank you!

Another question. Has anyone been told approximately how many calories to eat in Maintenance?

masenki
12-05-2013, 05:34 PM
Awesome explanation! Thank you!

Another question. Has anyone been told approximately how many calories to eat in Maintenance?
Women: 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
Men: 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Next, take that number and multiply it by the number that corresponds to your daily activity level:

Sedentary (little or no exercise) - 1.2
Lightly active (light exercise/work 1-3 days per week) - 1.375
Moderately active (moderate exercise/work 3-5 days per week) - 1.55
Very active (hard exercise/work 6-7 days a week) - 1.725
Extra active (very hard exercise/work 6-7 days a week) - 1.9
The final number you have is the number of calories you need per day to maintain your current weight. If you want to gain weight, you'll need to consume more calories, or burn fewer calories; and if you want to lose weight, you'll need to eat fewer calories or burn more calories by increasing your physical activity.

Ishbel
12-05-2013, 06:06 PM
Sarita....I started with this (found it on the maintenance section of 3FC but someone at my TOPS group mentioned the same thing),

Weight x 10 for Sedentary persons.
Weight x 11 for a little exercise.
Weight x 12 for moderately active persons.
Weight x 13 for fairly active people.
Weight x 14 for very active people.
Weight x 15 for extremely active athletes.

And figured out what was good for me, mine was on average right with the above. Some days I was higher and so the other days I'd bring it lower thru good choices.

Lizzy63
12-05-2013, 07:47 PM
Sarita - I just picked a reasonable place to start, using a formula like Ishbel's. Then I monitored my eating on MFP and weighed weekly. If I was going up, then clearly I needed to cut back on calories and vice versa. By doing this, you will find the right calorie level before too long.

Hot chocolate sounds great! I love my almond milk!

Maxxy
12-06-2013, 05:44 PM
Day 1 of maintenance....scary! I did manage to lose a pound through phase 3, which is strange but I will take it.

I plan on doing a phase 3 type day as a normal routine and add a little fat at lunch and carb at dinner and see how it goes. I need to do some research on phase 4 meal planning. I'm excited but oh so scared! I've worked way too hard to regain. I may have a million questions, so look out!

Maile
12-06-2013, 06:35 PM
Maxxy: I was also terrified and had to tell myself that a one pound gain did not mean I had gained all of my weight back. It felt like it though for awhile. It helps to give yourself a range to stay in instead of one exact weight as you will fluctuate. I lost weight in Phase 3 also. I think EPAP's advice to Sarita was right on and simple. Remember this is a learning process.

It is exciting. The best thing about IP is that it gives you tools to maintain.

Maxxy
12-06-2013, 06:56 PM
Is it ok now to add other veggies like carrots etc? Do I have them only at certain times? And fruit more than once a day is ok or not recommended?

My phase 4 sheet says that there should be 3 snacks a day. Does anyone do this? :?:

Lizzy63
12-06-2013, 07:25 PM
Maxxy - any veggies are fine - I was so excited about carrots! That was in my plan for my first day of maintenance.

I also lost in phase 3. They tell you that you will gain, but there are many here who did not.

It's all up to you. I often do have 3 snacks a day, and sometimes fruit more than once, but not every day. It's just a process of figuring out what works for you. Try different things and see how it goes. I find it's easier to eat healthy when I eat frequently. If I have a healthy snack, cookies and junk I don't need are easier to resist.

onmyway1014
12-06-2013, 10:56 PM
Maile -

I think it was you that mentioned being binge free for a long length of time. I know you also read a variety of books on maintaining and often have helpful quotes.

I've have been struggling the last week or so with some binging behavior. I have been maintaining for about 3 months and then had a planned fun day: I had a dinner that was higher in carbs including wheat which I avoid and a dessert after my dinner. after that I found/allowed myself to make poor choices frequently for almost a week.

I know the carbs fuel cravings I just can't figure out why I couldn't hold strong and resist like I had been doing. I also just rejoined the Y and have been working out daily but find it makes me hungry and I have found some healthy snack foods that I like too much and end up eating too much of lately. I'm going to need to keep them out of the house.

I've gone back to Ph 2 like eating for a few days now and feel much more in control again.

Any advice from you or anyone else may have would be greatly appreciated.

This thread is a great inspiration!

Wesstrom
12-07-2013, 08:28 AM
On my way - someone somewhere had recommended the beck diet solution for sabatoging thinking and binge eating its cognitive therapy to help train your brain I have bought it and am slowly working through it. I've only been in maintenance for a couple of weeks and hope this book helps. I've been doing pretty well but did have one bad night of poor choices which wasn't a "fun" day. I chose not to let it get the best of me and have decided to just carry on and not dwell. But to try and understand why that night I just couldn't hold it together.

I am wondering what people do for snacks. Big breakfast holds me till lunch, and lunch seems to hold me till after work. But I do find I am hungry after work and on weekends which I realize might be more psychological then actual hunger.

I know the recommendations are cheese fruit veggies nuts ect. But if supper is carbs Can I have some cheese after work or is that to close to the carb meal, how much time should there be in between. Any examples of what and when people snack on would be helpful.

Sorry for the long post.

Lizzy63
12-08-2013, 10:59 AM
Onmyway - sad to say, but there are some things that are very difficult for me to handle - I just don't know when to stop - cocoa roast almonds and most any variety of Ben & Jerry's come to mind. I feel like I should be able to have small portions, but never works out that way, so I just don't have them in the house, or only rarely. And I know what you mean about the carb cravings - one bad choice seems to lead to others. Not sure why, but I know it's true.

Wesstrom - have not read Beck Diet Solution yet. Snacks for me are generally between meals and in the evening before bed. I have not found that the timing of carbs and fats makes much difference. (Sorry, I know this is not the rule.) Some snack ideas - a shake (sometimes with PB2) or bar, celery (sometimes with hummus), Granny Smith apple, greek yogurt with berries, 1/4 cup of nuts, baby carrots, pepper slices. Oh - almost forgot - sometimes homemade frozen yogurt or ice cream with no sugar.

Maybe Patns will put Beck Diet Solution on her list for the book discussion thread soon.

Wesstrom
12-08-2013, 09:25 PM
Lizzy thanks so much the snack ideas that's the info I was looking for. As of yet I haven't really snacked, a pickle or some kale chips has been about it, but I think an after work snack would help, and I like variety and being prepared.

DRegan
12-09-2013, 10:36 AM
Hi all!

Looks like I have some great books to put on my Christmas list, lol!
Along with a FITBIT, does anyone have one?
This journey is defintely not over, one day at a time. Love to read
anything that helps me stay focused. thanks

Joined a gym with my DD this weekend, havent done that in like 25
years. It was buy one get one free, no brainer, LOL!! Her friend and
Mom did too, so hopefully we will support eacher, too cold to run in
the winter, burr! Felt good to do different machines, but I'm very sore
today, feels good though, :dizzy:

As far as snacking, I'm am very sugar sensitive, so I try
to stay with 1 fruit a day and lo carb veggies or I see the scale go up
1-2 lbs, sugar inflammation! stinks!! Raw nuts and veggies are my staples for
snacks. Paleo recipes are working best for me. Been making muffins/breads recipes that are very good, also share with family
and theyre amazed no sugar, no wheat. Gotta love it!

Trying to get into the Christmas spirit, lots to do! DS will be home next
week from college, I will put him to work, :dizzy:
I'm so thankful for all the advice here, really keeps me going, THANKS!!:hug:

HAVE A GREAT DAY;)

D

Maxxy
12-09-2013, 02:29 PM
Well, I am trying to get the "hang" of maintenance but I am so unsure of everything. Do you track protein, calories, or just follow the phase 4 sheet and add a fat or carb?

I am trying not to overthink all this but I think I am doing more of a phase 3 meal plan. I tried to have a piece of bread a dinner last night and felt so guilty. I know this will be a learning process but I haven't felt this confused through all of the other phases.

What do some of you do for daily meals? Are there any meal plans on this forum just to get ideas of what others do on maintenance. Any help is appreciated. I did so well that I dont' want to run the risk of gaining anything!!

Lizzy63
12-09-2013, 09:26 PM
DRegan - good for you for joining the gym! I do not have a fitbit, but I seem to remember Evepet was looking at one. If she's lurking here maybe she'll come out of hiding and share.

Maxxy - I think it is normal to feel unsure.

I still track everything on MFP, even after a year of maintenance. Once you get in the habit, it's easy. Nice to be able to look back after weighing and evaluate too.

My meal plan is basically phase 3, with some extras - how many extras depends on where my weight is. Still love my phase 3 breakfast.

Not sure if this helps, but here is what I had today -
Breakfast - greek yogurt w/ berries and 1/4 c granola, turkey sausage
Lunch - 2 c spinach, 1/2 c yellow pepper, 3 oz leftover steak, hendrickson's dressing
Dinner - 6 oz pork chop w/ some WF BBQ sauce, 2 c broccoli, 1 c baby carrots
Snack - pure protein choc deluxe bar

Light on snacks today - weight is a little over 145...

Maxxy
12-09-2013, 09:53 PM
DRegan - good for you for joining the gym! I do not have a fitbit, but I seem to remember Evepet was looking at one. If she's lurking here maybe she'll come out of hiding and share.

Maxxy - I think it is normal to feel unsure.

I still track everything on MFP, even after a year of maintenance. Once you get in the habit, it's easy. Nice to be able to look back after weighing and evaluate too.

My meal plan is basically phase 3, with some extras - how many extras depends on where my weight is. Still love my phase 3 breakfast.

Not sure if this helps, but here is what I had today -
Breakfast - greek yogurt w/ berries and 1/4 c granola, turkey sausage
Lunch - 2 c spinach, 1/2 c yellow pepper, 3 oz leftover steak, hendrickson's dressing
Dinner - 6 oz pork chop w/ some WF BBQ sauce, 2 c broccoli, 1 c baby carrots
Snack - pure protein choc deluxe bar

Light on snacks today - weight is a little over 145...

Yes, thanks this does help. I need to find some kind of bar to replace the IP bars. I am trying to holdback on IP food so that I can move on and not be dependent on IP foods. It's tough when that's all I ate for 5 months.

Here was my day. All comments are welcome....

Breakfast- 1 egg, 1 slice extra lean ham, skinny flatbread, FF cheese, made into breakfast sandwich. Apple, margarine on bread

Lunch- premiere protein shake with spinach, pickles, and a turkey pepperoni stick

Snack- almonds 1/4 cup

Dinner- pork tenderloin, salad, steamed cauliflower and broccoli and 1/4 cup rice.

??? Did I do ok??

Maile
12-10-2013, 09:05 AM
Maxxy: That looks like a healthy eating plan to me. The key is to watch and see if what you are eating causes the scale to go up. Basically I just kept eating Phase 3 with a added carbs now and then.

Onmyway: I have stopped bingeing. What worked for me was staying away from sugar and refined carbs. I have not returned to my trigger foods. This is not what IP recommends nor is it what other people do. However, I really think I have a sugar intolerance and need to stay away from it. I also have found many recipes that I really like so I do not miss eating my former treats.

Lizzy63: I like to make spinach salads with leftover steak for lunch as well.

Dregan: I think it is great that you joined the Y. This is a great place for the winter and exercise. I only eat one piece of fruit a day also.

I am excited about my son coming in next weekend. I have not even put up our tree yet.

Maile
12-11-2013, 09:39 AM
Here is holiday humor and a funny reminder for the holidays.

It was the night before Christmas,
And all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring,
Not even, a mouse.

And what to my wandering eyes should appear,
but 10 pounds on hip, thighs and rear.

DRegan
12-11-2013, 10:56 PM
Here is holiday humor and a funny reminder for the holidays.

It was the night before Christmas,
And all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring,
Not even, a mouse.

And what to my wandering eyes should appear,
but 10 pounds on hip, thighs and rear.

Very cute!!!!!
But lets hope that doesnt happen! LOL!
ok enjoy your Son too, i also dont have my tree yet!
hopefully saturday morning before snowstorm comes
our way, hoping the weathermen are wrong!
Happy decorating!

D

Maile
12-12-2013, 09:54 AM
I got the tree last night and will decorate today!
I hope the weatherman is wrong about the storm coming. Right now I am watching cancelled flights out of Chicago with more snow coming and wondering if my son will make his flight.

Hope you get a nice tree.

Wesstrom
12-12-2013, 10:03 AM
Maxxy a couple of staple meals for me well suppers are chilli and sheppards pie I always add cauliflower to my mashed potatoes now. I'm with you on getting away from the ip foods as well but still use the chocolate shake in my coffee on my low carb day.

sunnymae
12-12-2013, 11:44 AM
MAILE---HAVE FUN DECORATING YOUR TREE and I hope the weather holds up for your Son to make it in :0)
Picked up a tree last night for a friend and it was bitter cold here in NY as well, but we had fun...especially dragging it off the top of my roof rack!

I'm happy to say I am now within 9 lbs of my new maintenance goal and although this reboot has been very difficult and incredibly slow up until now, I have a much better handle on what works for me and what doesn't!

One thing for sure....protein bars....even ours, really stall me! I now consider them an extra restricted treat and use them sparingly.
Rhubarb recipe has been my friend. I make a parfait with that and vanilla pudding. I have been using more IP recipes to stay creative and allowing more real food proteins as well. I also found that more than 4 cups of non restricted veggies are actually better for me on all fronts. I just feel better having more.
It's so nice to see my old new face back and thinner appearance. Worth the work and diligence. Getting thru Thanksgiving and all the holiday parties are easier now.

Thanks everyone for continued support, great stories, recipes, books and links to all the info we share here. I could not do this without all of you!

FitMom02
12-12-2013, 02:26 PM
It looks like I'm finally going to be joining your thread. :) all through my weight loss journey I have "eyed" this thread...anticipating the day I can actually join in.

Today, I am starting phase 2. I've met my goal...and I'm at 16% body fat!!! So VERY excited about that!!:carrot: I know it's not maintenance quite yet...but I know it's just a few weeks away!! There is just something about having a date on the calendar now...January 8 will be day 1 of maintenance for me! Then the foreverness of trying to stay there will begin.

I look forward to getting to know you all better. BTW...Maile...love the new Christmas rhyme! :)

Ishbel
12-12-2013, 02:45 PM
Maxxy I stopped tracking after one year as I wanted to have faith in my ability to make good decisions. I really feel that over a month you'll eat the same things anyway, it's worked well for me. But I did track a year into maintenance. If you get the right tracker it remembers what you ate anyway, which is why I now know I generally eat the same things over a month.

Fitmom Wecome to almost Maintenance! 16% body fat, WOW!!

maile Yay for your son coming to visit, I'm off to my mama's on the 23 and returning the 27...pretty excited to hang out with her and even go to church with her (my annual visit it seems LOL). I don't have my tree up either and I'm stressed about it. But I don't think it will go up for the first time in my LIFE, we are in basement renos and there is just NO room :( VIP said "put it where the trunk is" I said "then where do we put the trunk?!". If it was warmer (we're in a deep freeze right now) I'd have some little stuff out to make it festive but it's too cold to go into the garage even. Have fun trimming the tree!

DRegan Mentioned to my mom that I might ask VIP for a fitbit and she said "ummm don't bother" which means it's under the tree! :) I will still ask for a garmin for my bday as as soon as this baby is out I'm starting my running program again.

sunnymae WELL DONE on your reboot! I spied an oatmeal packet I didn't know I had and thought "ooo, I have rhubarb in the freezer". It might actually become an evening snack within the next two weeks.
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This learning to 'graze' is for the birds, I miss my three meals and one snack. I cannot eat a full meal (ALREADY) so I'm splitting everything up and although I'm eating a normal amount it just feels like I'm eating all the time (every 1-2 hours), I'm feeling good enough to have worked out three times last week and already got three times in this week. I bought some pregnancy videos and VIP rolled his eyes and said "they saw you coming" to which I said "watch it, if it makes me happy then it should make you happy" LOL I am sad that I had to stop running but 'que sera sera', I'm just trying to maintain a fitness level now and keep the weight gain to a minimum but yet still 'gain'. Hard mindset to get into (although I'm in it!) when I spent so long losing and being SO mindful of the number on the scale. My doc is happy with what I'm doing, should I call that a NSV or a PV? lol

dak1lls
12-12-2013, 03:56 PM
This learning to 'graze' is for the birds, I miss my three meals and one snack. I cannot eat a full meal (ALREADY) so I'm splitting everything up and although I'm eating a normal amount it just feels like I'm eating all the time (every 1-2 hours), I'm feeling good enough to have worked out three times last week and already got three times in this week. I bought some pregnancy videos and VIP rolled his eyes and said "they saw you coming" to which I said "watch it, if it makes me happy then it should make you happy" LOL I am sad that I had to stop running but 'que sera sera', I'm just trying to maintain a fitness level now and keep the weight gain to a minimum but yet still 'gain'. Hard mindset to get into (although I'm in it!) when I spent so long losing and being SO mindful of the number on the scale. My doc is happy with what I'm doing, should I call that a NSV or a PV? lol

What a wonderful time in your life. I think you should simply concentrate on making healthy choices, eat good food and listen to your body. Enjoy being pregnant! I am so impressed that you are exercising and that you have such a positive attitude. Good for you!

Maile
12-13-2013, 08:40 AM
Ishbel: My son is in the same boat. He lives in a studio and has no room for a tree. I am going to look for a tiny one to mail him. I am glad you are going to see your mom! I read pregnancy books and watched videos also! You are doing so well to keep exercising and to keep grazing. It is hard to gain, but it is healthy baby weight.
Fitmom: Welcome to maintenance. You have worked hard to get there and will do well. I liked the humor of that Christmas post.

Sunnymae: What a great accomplishment for you. You have persevered and figured out what really works for you. It is relentless determination and work.
You are going to enjoy the holidays with that thinner you!

I finally got my tree and it is decorated! I am definitely behind on the rest of the Xmas jobs. However, I am still making exercise a priority!

Maxxy
12-13-2013, 04:37 PM
First weigh in on maintenance. -1 lb and lost 4 inches. I'll take it! Woo hoo!!:woohoo:

Maile
12-14-2013, 11:03 AM
Way to go Maxxy..not only one pound but 4 inches as well! I think you will enjoy maintenance.

I am working off an up pound from eating French pepper steak with cognac sauce.

lisa32989
12-14-2013, 11:41 AM
Snowy day in StL. And they are so reactionary to a little weather here (I'm from Michigan, originally)
My water exercise class was cancelled this morning so I'm about to do my PT exercises and work on the foam roller.

Lizzy63
12-14-2013, 03:06 PM
Lisa - 8.5 inches here in central IL from the same storm. So pretty when I went out to walk this morning. Got out early to finish shopping while others stayed home, now just enjoying the view out my window....

Maxxy - you are doing great! Just stick with it.

Maile - the poem is great, but I sure hope I don't gain 10 lbs! A couple will be ok - can take it off after Christmas. Hope your son got out of Chicago ok - I think they had less snow north of here.

FitMom - welcome!

Ishbel - sounds like you are doing well and keeping in shape. What is your due date?

FitMom02
12-16-2013, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome! I've completed day 4 of phase 2...it is going quickly.

Maxxy congrats on your 1st weigh in! I hope I can be just as successful!

Maile...I hear you on the decorating. I've been done, but am still wrapping some lingering gifts! I actually got my Christmas cards done today!

How about the holiday baking? Obviously I won't get to have the goodies since I'm still phasing off. But I told my kids that instead of going "hog wild" with the baking his year, that they can each pick 1 thing they want to make...and that will be it. We'll see how that goes!

Have a terrific week!

Maxxy
12-16-2013, 10:26 AM
Well, two parties down on the weekend and 1 pound up! I know....don't weigh in but I did anyway. Back to my post "fun" day, phase 1 for a couple days. I think I am getting the hang of this!

The two parties were so much fun when everyone noticed how "skinny" I am. I laugh to myself everytime I hear it. "Skinny"???? me???? haha LOVE TO HEAR THAT!

Hope everyone has a great maintaining week before XMAS!:D

Ishbel
12-16-2013, 11:00 AM
maile I was wrapping presents last night and thinking about your tree and how I don't have one. A few of VIP's presents are in big boxes so I'm going to pile them all up and buy a little fake tree at WalMart today (those ones that are 8-12 inches high - has to be fake or my cats will eat it) and put it on top of all the presents and take a picture HAHA! :)

Lizzy Due date, depends on who you listen to, by me 30 May by Ultra Sound 26 May. I think I have to go with the ultra sound because that's what the doc will use. So I just say "last week in May sometime". :)

FitMom My mom and I discussed holiday baking too and we're going to try to keep it to a minimum, she makes these fabulous paleo crackers from almond flour that I specifically requested. Everyone in my fam but my auntie will be ok with that. She'll show up with piles of baking, she's that person that encourages you to take three more squares so she can too. Meh, :)

Maxxy 1 lbs after two parties is a pretty good victory, I doubt you'd need a few days of Phase 1 :) Well done!

dak1lls I can tell ya that VIP doesn't think I'm always positive :D HAHA! My alternate personality is "PEGGY" - shes the one that can get quite angry. Pregnant peggy is something to behold.

Hope you all have a great day! :)

Maxxy
12-17-2013, 09:46 AM
I am having a "talk me off the ledge" kind of morning. I totally understand now how some folks wind up with a weight disorder. After losing 43 lbs and 5 sizes, I still can look at myself in the mirror and see the fat girl. I know Im smaller because of the scale and my clothes, but not always do I see the thinner me. Strange.....

I still haven't lost that pound from the weekend and I feel like I'm huge again. I need to keep my head on straight and realize no one can tell if I am one pound heavier!

Oh well....time to move forward and not obsess but some days are harder than others. No temptation to quit and fall back into bad habits, I just think I should be excited about my new appearance all the time and I wonder whats wrong with me when I dont!

65X65
12-17-2013, 10:39 AM
I am having a "talk me off the ledge" kind of morning. I totally understand now how some folks wind up with a weight disorder. After losing 43 lbs and 5 sizes, I still can look at myself in the mirror and see the fat girl. I know Im smaller because of the scale and my clothes, but not always do I see the thinner me. Strange.....

I still haven't lost that pound from the weekend and I feel like I'm huge again. I need to keep my head on straight and realize no one can tell if I am one pound heavier!

Oh well....time to move forward and not obsess but some days are harder than others. No temptation to quit and fall back into bad habits, I just think I should be excited about my new appearance all the time and I wonder whats wrong with me when I dont!

Maxxy...you have done amazing! As for the self image..use that consciousness to help keep you on track. Not a bad thing Really. I worry that getting too comfy about success could at some point lead me to a dangerous slippery slope! :no::no: For the hunger horrors that do still occur in maintenance and put me on the ledge: :devil::devil::devil::devil:
Try some chicken broth. You can add spinach, shaved carrots and chopped celery or even beaten egg white if you need some volume. Damage from that concoction is pretty much ZERO! I find in the cold weather...coffee or tea simply does not do it for me at 10 AM or 3PM sometimes. Also found that if I snacked (light) more...that actually was not satisfying either. Something about the hot broth really makes a difference for me on a day like that.

Think of a zero impact thing you like and can have (...guilt free :dizzy:...!!) and maybe you can share a ploy the rest of us can use too!!

lisa32989
12-17-2013, 03:18 PM
Maxxy...you have done amazing! As for the self image..use that consciousness to help keep you on track. Not a bad thing Really. I worry that getting too comfy about success could at some point lead me to a dangerous slippery slope! :no::no: For the hunger horrors that do still occur in maintenance and put me on the ledge: :devil::devil::devil::devil:
Try some chicken broth. You can add spinach, shaved carrots and chopped celery or even beaten egg white if you need some volume. Damage from that concoction is pretty much ZERO! I find in the cold weather...coffee or tea simply does not do it for me at 10 AM or 3PM sometimes. Also found that if I snacked (light) more...that actually was not satisfying either. Something about the hot broth really makes a difference for me on a day like that.

Think of a zero impact thing you like and can have (...guilt free :dizzy:...!!) and maybe you can share a ploy the rest of us can use too!!

I've been having homemade bone broth as my "after school" snack. Adding some spinach, celery or even a beaten egg might work out wonderfully on extra-hungry days. Thanks for the great idea! Just needing to learn to work thru the "winter hungries" with a plan. Boiled eggs are a savior for me!

And the whole self-image thing...oh my! Every time I have a fun day, I fully expect none of my clothes to fit and I'm always amazed when they still do. I'm hoping as time passes, I'll "grow out of" this feeling.

Hi Kathie! Nice to see you back :)

Cynaria
12-18-2013, 01:29 AM
Hi. New to phase 4. Had my phase 4 session with my coach tonight. 65 pounds and 50 inches, I'm ready for this. So many people here have been an inspiration. I'm a little nervous, but excited as well. First day will be a funday. It is my work holiday potluck. I'm still bringing my zuccini mock apples.

FitMom02
12-19-2013, 10:37 AM
Maxxy, sounds like you handled the parties well!! I react the same whenever I gain a pound or two...

Ishbel, you've done so well in maintenance that it seems so "second nature" for you. By eating healthy throughout your pregnancy you will feel great when baby arrives! Thanks for the almond flour & paleo suggestions! Just think, next Christmas, you'll have a little one to wrap for, too!

65X65 & Lisa, thanks for the chicken broth idea...I plan to have this as an afternoon snack! :)

Cynaria, hello to you! It looks like we're starting in here around the same time! I'm just on day 8 of phase 2, though. Congrats on your exceptional loss!!

Phase 2 is going ok for me. I'm just concerned because I started P2 last Thursday...lost 1 pound by Saturday...and now am up that same pound. Is this bad news? I'm wondering if P3 means a big gain coming up?? (See Maxxy...I'm doing it, too!).

Maxxy
12-19-2013, 01:35 PM
Just finishing week two of maintenance. I'm at the lowest weight I have been so that's great news for me. I am really trying different ideas with how to maintain. I usually just add a bit of a fat at lunch and sometimes a carb at dinner. I am so used to low carb eating now, that I really don't miss adding carbs to my day. I did have my "fun" day and I have another "fun" day tomorrow. Unfortunately, the "fun" is usually the alcohol but if I can still have my "fun" and have a drink or two, I'm good with that. I am trying to make it a way of life and not a diet anymore. So far, so good. I'm trying not to overthink or over complicate my food intake.

Today,we go out for a work lunch. An omelet and salad are sounding pretty good right now! mmmmm, real food! lol

Have a great weekend everyone!

jelliehel
12-20-2013, 07:53 AM
Hi Everyone!

I started IP January of this year and phased off in August after losing 60lbs. I continued to lose through all phases and reached 70 lbs as of last week. If it wasn't for this website I couldn't have done it. Especially the recipes. I have been lurking and this is my first post. You all are such good support and I struggle everyday with making good food choices. Just like you Maxxy I don't see me as small. Clothes tell all but my eyes still see a big girl. I have struggled since childhood with my weight and IP saved me. It is just the right amount of structure I needed. I have never felt better in my life! I just wanted to say THANK YOU to all and good luck, WE CAN DO THIS!!!!!!

Maile
12-20-2013, 10:14 AM
Jelliehel: Welcome. You have done so well losing 70 pounds! I loved the structure of IP also and especially the maintenance plan.

Maxxy: I found that alcohol usually does not cause a weight gain. Low carb eating has become a way of life. You can usually find some way to eat low carb when you go out.

Fitmom: I lost during Phase 3. You might have water retention.

I had much of the same reaction as others initially. If I was up a pound, I would feel like I had gained all of my weight back. As time passes I am not as anxious. If I am up a few pounds, that is in my range and I am pretty Ok. However, I am not cured and still look at myself in the mirror to make sure I do not look fat on some days. Most of the time I see myself as thin.

Cynaria: I liked those mock apples also. They are great for the holidays. Welcome to maintenance and I hope you enjoy the potluck.

Lisa32989: Before I went to Hawaii I tried on all my clothes to make sure they fit. There was no reason to assume they wouldn't, but I did it anyway.

65x65: That is a good idea about the broth and spinach for a snack on a cold day!

Ishbel: Did you buy a little tree? I hope you are feeling well..don't forget you have lots of hormonal changes going on impacting Peggy! I was more emotional during my pregnancies. A friend gave me a poinsettia plant, which intrigues the cats. Fortunately the plant is not dangerous to cats as it is to humans.

Lizzy: You have lots of snow! My son did get out ok. It is wonderful to have him here. Now if my other son can just get out of DC.

I made it through the holiday staff party with no unkind words this year. I think people have given up on giving me unwanted advice on what to eat. it was nice.

Maxxy
12-20-2013, 11:59 AM
Weigh in #2 for maintenance and I stayed the same as last week! I can do this! I just proved it to myself! Merry Christmas to me!

Thanks all for encouraging words! This forum is truly a gift!:hug:

dak1lls
12-20-2013, 03:24 PM
Just a quick hello and then I'm off to bed. I have been working all week loading trucks, as it is "all hands on deck". We are so backed up with delivery volume due to the weather that all departments have been called into operations. I just got back home after a week away helping in another city. I worked from 2am to 9am loading trucks every day. Wow, I am too old for this. It brought back lots of memories from when I was starting out 26 years ago. I am going to be 50 next year for heaven's sake. I have so many bruises I look like a map of the world! lol.

So, all week away I have been eating like a little piggie! I was so hungry after loading each night that I fueled up pretty well. ha ha. I am curious, fearful, anxious, etc...to see what the scale says on Monday. At this point, I decided it was better to be well fed so I could maintain some energy. However, well fed and gluttony are two completely different things. :D

If I don't get a chance to check in again before Christmas, I want to wish everyone a wonderful holiday.

Oh, and it is a balmy minus 11 right now. :brr:

DRegan
12-21-2013, 12:18 AM
Just a quick hello and then I'm off to bed. I have been working all week loading trucks, as it is "all hands on deck". We are so backed up with delivery volume due to the weather that all departments have been called into operations. I just got back home after a week away helping in another city. I worked from 2am to 9am loading trucks every day. Wow, I am too old for this. It brought back lots of memories from when I was starting out 26 years ago. I am going to be 50 next year for heaven's sake. I have so many bruises I look like a map of the world! lol.

So, all week away I have been eating like a little piggie! I was so hungry after loading each night that I fueled up pretty well. ha ha. I am curious, fearful, anxious, etc...to see what the scale says on Monday. At this point, I decided it was better to be well fed so I could maintain some energy. However, well fed and gluttony are two completely different things. :D


If I don't get a chance to check in again before Christmas, I want to wish everyone a wonderful holiday.

Oh, and it is a balmy minus 11 right now. :brr:

Chilly for sure!!!
We're getting rain all weekend, there goes
our white Christmas!!
I'm sure you needed the fuel to do all
that hard work!! We'll all get thru this
Holiday week, and then move on!
I know I feel & look so much better than last year!! Lol!
Have a great holiday!
Ho Ho Ho!!!! ;)

D:)

Maile
12-21-2013, 09:52 AM
Maxxy: Your maintenance is going well. That is a good weigh in. You can do it.

Dak1ll: Your job sounds exhausting. Good luck on making it through this stressful week. Plus your weather is so cold!

DRegan: We have rain also, but there is snow on the mountains. That is an accomplishment that you feel and look better than last year. You are going to enjoy this season.

I am house cleaning for the arrival of my son. I plan to eat lightly for the next few days to get on the low end of my range before Christmas.

Happy Holidays to everyone.

Maile
12-22-2013, 09:57 AM
Down a pound. I am working on another one.

bubbleblower
12-24-2013, 07:30 AM
Hi everyone! Just wanted to stop in and say a quick hello! It's good to see everyone here, along with a few new people.

I've been getting ready for Christmas and actually made cookies (gluten free of course! :D ) for a big cookie exchange at a neighbor's. Since I can't eat any other than the ones I made (and I gave those away), my DH has been getting his quota of sugar lately!

I'm still trying to be good about exercising although I have had to cancel a few classes in order to go to parties instead. :o My weight is holding steady and I'm thankful in a way that I've had to go GF. It's definitely made it easier to maintain by simplifying my choices and reducing the carb choices.

Our temps are still in the mid-80s although they say a 'cool front' is coming, with temps dipping all the way down to the mid-70s. ;) I can't say that I'm missing cold or snow. We went to VA earlier this month and had our fill of sleet and ice.

Hope everyone is doing great, and 2014 gets off to a great start!

lisa32989
12-24-2013, 08:37 AM
Hi bubbleblower! Nice to see you
I'm in FL for the Christmas holiday but I'll be heading to CA for New Years.
We're going to the Rose Parade and the rose Bowl.

I realized yesterday I didn't have many veggies so snacked on some celery at nite. I just feel different when that happens now and I'll plan better so it won't happen again.

I need to make sue we have enough lettuce for the next couple of days and for company tomorrow. May need to get some more (ugh..shopping today :( )
The friends I'm visiting don't menu plan very well without some prodding but also get a little ruffled when I try to do it so it's a careful balance.

FitMom02
12-25-2013, 12:43 AM
Merry Christmas!! I hope everyone has a very special holiday with family & friends!

Bubbleblower & Lisa...those warm temps sound delightful!! It's been single digits here. And being thinner now...I feel the chill!

Well, tomorrow is my last P2 day. So I get my 1st Phase 3 breakfast on Thursday...I am so looking forward to it! I look to have lost about 2.5 lbs in P2.

Merry Christmas to all!!:hug:

Maile
12-25-2013, 10:26 AM
Bubbleblower: These holiday events can interfere with exercise. We have to drive to get my son and I am trying too figure out a way to get a walk in.

Lisa: I envy you going to the Rose Bowl. My husband loved it. I hope you figure out a healthy meal plan with your guests. It does get touchy. I am heading to a lunch at my inlaws and know it will not be a health one.

Fitmom:Phase 3 breakfasts are my favorite meal! Nice job on losing 2.5 pounds on P2.

Merry Christmas everyone.

FitMom02
12-25-2013, 10:22 PM
Maile...hope lunch went well today at your in-laws. I did survive my dinner...I just feel odd packing my own separate meal...but I did.

Here is my breakfast tomorrow. Please Let me know if you all see anything wrong with it...thanks sooo much! :)

6oz Greek yogurt with 1 cup strawberries, 1 hard boiled egg, 1 Ezekiel English muffin with 1 TBLSP peanut butter. This looks huge!

Total Cals = 491, total fat= 14.8, total carbs = 52.3, total protein= 37.8.
Carbs from grain= 30...24 net carbs...is this ok? Do we count total carb or net carbs? Does my fat seem too high?

Cynaria
12-25-2013, 11:06 PM
Fit mom. As long as today is not a fun day your plan for breakfast tomorrow is my typical favorite. Enjoy.

FitMom02
12-26-2013, 12:18 AM
Fit mom. As long as today is not a fun day your plan for breakfast tomorrow is my typical favorite. Enjoy.

Thanks!! I'm really looking forward to it! Do we count net carbs or total carbs?

bubbleblower
12-26-2013, 08:58 AM
Hi everyone! I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas. I can't believe another year is winding down. It was funny to go to an annual Christmas party at a scuba shop here a couple of weeks ago and realize that I was 4 sizes bigger and a lot heavier last year at the event. At that time I was just a week or so into IP.

Fitmom: I'm not actually counting carbs or calories. I just usually limit my carbs to half of a bagel and fruit in the morning, a Quest protein bar in the afternoon, and get the rest from veggies. Sometimes I'll have a few GF crackers in the afternoon or some almonds.

Lisa: It's been a little chilly here the last few days, but certainly nothing like the rest of the country! My husband laughs at me when I put on socks and a sweatshirt, but I definitely get colder than I used to. It's been nice to be able to open up the windows and let the fresh air in. Have fun on the rest of your trip!

Maile: I have a spin/yoga class (half hour of spin/half hour of yoga) tonight to burn off some of the calories from yesterday. I wasn't too bad, but my DH made a decadently delicious New Zealand lamb roast infused with garlic and wrapped in bacon on the grill. It was yummy!

It's funny how so many of us seem to get so anxious about gaining all the weight back overnight. Logically, we know it's not possible but we still seem to think the loss is temporary and fragile. I hope that goes away eventually!

lisa32989
12-26-2013, 09:12 AM
Bubbleblower: chilly is a relative term
We left 20-something degree weather to come to FL.
I think we can live with 70s. The humidity is really "up there" this trip.
I feel bloated today. P1 it is!

bubbleblower
12-26-2013, 09:37 AM
Yep, chilly is definitely relative! It's amazing how quickly I've acclimated to the climate here. Even this summer didn't feel bad compared to VA, and at least the skies are usually blue vs. grey haze.

masenki
12-27-2013, 07:30 PM
Dear Maintainers - do you feel hunger when out of ketosis? Im getting closer to my goal and getting all nervous about P2/P3. Im worry about getting cravings and being hungry.
I start reading Paleo books to understand what is my next move id going to be (after phasing off properly from IP). Anyone here have good experience w Paleo?

Maxxy
12-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Boo for me! Up a pound over Xmas but back on P1 until it's gone....should be tomorrow! You gotta love IP!!!!

DRegan
12-27-2013, 11:07 PM
Dear Maintainers - do you feel hunger when out of ketosis? Im getting closer to my goal and getting all nervous about P2/P3. Im worry about getting cravings and being hungry.
I start reading Paleo books to understand what is my next move id going to be (after phasing off properly from IP). Anyone here have good experience w Paleo?

Hi,
I've been following paleo since about May, been great!!
Of course I did enjoy a few treats this week, mostly wine and
couple apps. Was up a couple lbs, probably salt, sure it'll be gone
soon, water weight cuz I know I didn't eat 7000 extra calories and I went to
the gym. Lol!!
My cravings are minimal on paleo, works for me.
Good luck! Lots of great websites out there.

Hope everyone enjoyed their Christmas!!
Happy New Year to you all!!
Ps I got my fitbit! Just gotta learn how it use it :dizzy:Lol!

D

Maile
12-30-2013, 10:31 AM
Here is a link to a great article by the author of Refuse to Regain.
DECEMBER 11, 2013
Falling Off The Various Wagons: A Holiday Peril
by Barbara Berkeley, MD
As the author of Refuse to Regain, she explores the Holiday Perils. Here is the link.


In Food Cravings, Sugar Trumps Fat - NYTimes ... - Refuse To Regain
www.refusetoregain.com/2013/
12/in-food-cravings-sugar-
trumps-fat-nyt...‎


I like her beginning:
"Some years ago I wrote about the fact that weight maintainers have to live on a sort-of island. While everyone around them is splashing in a sea of fat, sugar and chocolate (and a great many are drowning in it), those who live by their own eating rules are up on dry land watching the proceedings in a state of relative isolation. It can be downright lonely on the island. "

At times I do feel like there is a sea of consumption during the holidays.

She comments that the most successful maintainers follow their healthy eating rules 365 days of the year. However, this does mean excluding all modern eating. Ie holiday indulgences.

" What it does mean however, is that you must clearly, CLEARLY know which foods you have to completely avoid in order to prevent relapse. You must also know exactly how much and what types of foods will preserve your current weight and you must have a plan for small gains that you are willing to institute right away when the scale climbs up. Does this sound like "defensive eating?" I think the plan for immediate gain is important and like the concept of defensive eating.


During the holidays,she recommends to simply do the same thing over the holidays that you do the rest of the year. This seems difficult at first, but many successful maintainers employ this strategy and have found that it gets easier as time goes by.


Here is what she tells her patients:
"Here's what I say to my patients during the holidays.

Remember that eating in a way that protects and defends your weight and body, keeping yourself strong through exercise, sleeping 7-8 hours a night, and taking time to relax and de-stress are all part of the most important gift you can give yourself this season. For every year that you get through the holidays having given yourself this gift, you add more holidays to your life, more opportunities to live without pills, dementia, and excess risk."


I think her advice on clearly knowing what foods will cause regain is good as well as having a plan to work any up pounds off.

So far so good on my holiday eating. I am in my range and cutting back for a few days before New Years. I had a great time trying North African and Morrocan recipes yesterday.

kkids
12-30-2013, 01:44 PM
I'm new to maintaining...it's a little scary out there (jk!). I've been looking through threads to gather ideas for meals & am still stuck b/c I like many hesitate at adding certain foods back into my diet. I have to plan my back to school meals (I'm a "brown-bagging" k teacher). I'm thinking I may stick with salad, veggies & some type of protein for my lunches. I know that if I don't plan out my meals, I tend to not have a balanced meal. Breakfasts aren't difficult for me (I love the P3 breakfast ideas). Holidays weren't too bad for me, but I did notice this past weekend I had finally gained the 2 -4 pounds my coach said I would gain, but this morning it was gone again.

DRegan - I haven't researched/read a lot about the Paleo diet; I do have a nephew who was following the diet (he's a runner, hiker, 6th grade teacher). Was it difficult to start or does it fall in line with the way I was eating P1-P3?

MDLoser
12-30-2013, 03:25 PM
I just hit the 6 month mark of maitenance. I am slighly below my goal weight. Keeping the weight off hasn't been as bad as I thought.

I eat well 80% of the time and excercise several times a week. I wasn't excercising at all before doing IP. The eating well/excersising seems to be enough to keep me fit. I still avoid sugar/sweets and carbs. I have them occaissionally, but probably eat 75% less of them than I was before IP.

DRegan
12-30-2013, 08:38 PM
I'm new to maintaining...it's a little scary out there (jk!). I've been looking through threads to gather ideas for meals & am still stuck b/c I like many hesitate at adding certain foods back into my diet. I have to plan my back to school meals (I'm a "brown-bagging" k teacher). I'm thinking I may stick with salad, veggies & some type of protein for my lunches. I know that if I don't plan out my meals, I tend to not have a balanced meal. Breakfasts aren't difficult for me (I love the P3 breakfast ideas). Holidays weren't too bad for me, but I did notice this past weekend I had finally gained the 2 -4 pounds my coach said I would gain, but this morning it was gone again.

DRegan - I haven't researched/read a lot about the Paleo diet; I do have a nephew who was following the diet (he's a runner, hiker, 6th grade teacher). Was it difficult to start or does it fall in line with the way I was eating P1-P3?

Hi, it wasn't too hard to start paleo since I pretty much gave up wheat already, I felt so much better gut wise. Slowly I gave up the rest of the grains and dairy and legumes, which was minimal for me anyway. I have no more joint pain and my belly is happy! And flatter, lol! I'm heading into menapause slowly and I feel this will help. The wheat belly book is enlightening for sure and The Paleo solution is very good. I read a lot on many websites. Lots of blogs & recipes out there.

I guess phase 2 is more like it, protein and lots of veggies. I have fruit and sweet potatoes in moderation. Olive oil, coconut oil, avacados.
Everyone's different but I'm happy so far. No cravings,
I just fed my college son his favorite chicken parm with pasta and garlic bread, I stuck with garlic sautéed chicken with broccoli and marinara sauce, was yummy and I didn't feel deprived at all, the whole family was happy, lol!!

Good luck,
D;)

Maile
12-31-2013, 09:30 AM
Fitmom: you count net carbs. Your breakfast looked great.

Bubbleblower:We are lamb lovers also, but only now and then due to its high fat content. Your husband is quite the chef.

Dregan: I have gotten used to eating marinara with a protein and zucchini noodles. I don't miss the pasta either.

MDloser: congratulations on 6 months of maintenance. I also still avoid sugars, sweets,and carbs.

KKids: I am a teacher also and take salads for lunches. It helps me to make them the night before.

Maxxy: That is the beauty of IP. Having a P1 for a maintenance tool.

Happy New Year everyone.

Lizzy63
12-31-2013, 09:45 AM
Hi, everyone! Haven't checked in for a couple of weeks - busy with holiday/family stuff.

Dregan - I have been thinking about trying paleo/primal. Seems like whenever I gain a bit, I've been too high on carbs (for me, anyhow). Thinking that may just work better for me. Do you still count calories and carbs? Or just follow the general guidelines? Seems like there are a lot of variations to this approach.

Kkids - the whole idea of maintenance is scary at first... You will figure out what works for you. Just keep checking in and ask questions.

Bubbleblower, Maile - another lamb lover here! Almost always pickup some lamb chops when I am at Sam's Club. Love them with an olive oil, lemon juice, lemon rind, garlic, oregano marinade! Yum!

Congrats, MDLoser!

DRegan
12-31-2013, 09:40 PM
Hi lizzy,
I still use my fitness pal app daily, my carbs still stay around 50ish, net.
Calories around 1500, but I don't get too crazy, especially if I'm getting at
least 4 workouts in a week. Usually only 1-2 fruits a day, berries are best for fiber and lower sugars.
I've been enjoying baking with coconut and almond
flour recipes, banana bread is delish, my go to breakfast with black coffee.
I still have a quest bar occasionally, not perfectly paleo but IP compliant if I'm
stuck for time.
Also got my fitbit for Xmas, fun tracking steps & calories burned.

Happy new year everyone!!!! :)
Keep up the great work, you're all worth it!!! :)

D:)

Maile
01-02-2014, 08:05 AM
Enjoy your fitbit! I am thinking of getting one of those trackers that you put on your shoe.

Lizzy63..that sounds like a great way to eat lamp chops. I also love lamb curry.

We are fogged in and my flight is cancelled. Now we have to drive to another city to leave. Winter can be hard!

cbl70
01-02-2014, 11:08 AM
Maile..Thanks so much for you constant presence on this site. You are my rock. I'm in a mini-reboot mode right now. You inspire me and make me believe that maintenance is possible.

Happy New Year!

bubbleblower
01-02-2014, 11:47 AM
Hi everyone, and happy 2014!! I, for one, was more than happy to see 2013 to the door! ;) Although there were a lot of highs (getting to goal weight and moving into our new home) there were a lot of tough times health-wise. Thankfully both my DH and I seem to be past that!

My weight was up a bit after a big (but yummy!) dinner of filet mignon and king crab legs on NYE, but I took it easy yesterday and am still below goal weight. I look at my goal weight as more of a top limit, and that seems to be working for me.

I eat mostly protein and veggies (not worrying about fat too much) and don't really ever seem to get hungry. My main challenge is to listen to my body and not to eat when I'm full.

Hope you all are off to a great start!

Ishbel
01-02-2014, 02:34 PM
Happy New Year everyone!

bubbleblower I too find that my goal weight became my top weight and I found my emotional balance better that way.

Maxxy only 1 lb! Way to GO!

DRegan I like Paleo too, my mom introduced me to some almond flour paleo crackers. We figured out 5 crackers was an almond snack. I had to put them in the freezer so they weren't within easy reach. We used some epicure seasoning in them (dilly dill dip for one). SO SO good! I find my body is 'ok' with good fats and like to eat that way too I just really like my cheese even not pregnant so I can't say I eat paleo...I say "paleoish" :)

Maile Morrocan recipes - have you ever used a tajine? My gf got one for Christmas and told me all about it. It sounds FABULOUS and now have it on my list for something to buy next. I love love using cumin!

MDLoser Congrats on 6 months! :)

Lizzy I tried lamb once and did NOT like it, have you eaten it a lot throughout your life? I didn't grow up on it....my mom said that's probably why I didn't enjoy it. lol

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I got into the ginger snaps over Christmas (kept it down to 3-4 actual cookies though, proud of that), I still dream about them (my Auntie put candied ginger in them!). I'm very proud that I kept it relatively under control but still enjoyed my treats. My sister was querying me about how I eat and how it hasn't really changed much and she's doing some serious thinking about paleo when she's done her masters.

I'm probably a little more 'relaxed' about it because I'm pregnant but meh...with no real 'fun' day I'm trying to keep the treats to just one day of the week to keep them at a minimum. Martha (my tummy) has made me 'pop' more so then usual and got the "you're only 4 1/2 months?!!" comment over Christmas. Yeah ;p! lol HOLY HANNAH boobs! Yeesh, I'm going to fall forward soon :(! (sorry if that's TMI lol)

My cravings are still tomatoes and dairy, mostly cheese, I dream of cheese sometimes. I'm dreaming of some brussel sprouts though, VIP isn't home for supper so I'll cook them up the way I want them and not worry about someone whining too much :). Don't get me wrong, I still will have the 'going out meals', had western chinese for New Years Eve and really enjoyed the dumplings! mmmm.

VIP did pretty good for his year at his weight, he's only up 5-7 but wants to go a little lower for some more wiggle room. SO, he's doing a reboot that started 1 Jan and I'm cracking out the Phase 1 appropriate suppers and making more for my lunches. WHICH helps me keep the weight gain to a 'creep up'.

I recieved a fitbit TOO for Christmas and it's working out AWESOME. I am not running now but the little machine is making me walk so I can see the 10K steps a day. My mom gave me a little smirk when I told her it was working to keep me moving. :)

bubbleblower
01-02-2014, 03:19 PM
I tried lamb once and did NOT like it, have you eaten it a lot throughout your life? I didn't grow up on it....my mom said that's probably why I didn't enjoy it. lol

I absolutely *hated* lamb growing up! It was always too gamey for me. I couldn't even stand the smell. I think a lot had to do with the quality of the lamb. When we buy it now, it's always New Zealand lamb, and the way my DH roasts it on the rotisserie with garlic cloves, it is just mouthwatering to me. I didn't even want to try it the first time until I started smelling it as it was cooking. :hun:

joysh
01-04-2014, 02:44 PM
Hi Maintainers! I knw I've been MIA for a couple of months, but I'm still here and working at maintaining. I'm up about 5 pounds from my desired weight, which is 5 pounds under my posted goal, so I'm planning my P1 reboot. Just ordered some alternatives from Nashua and I'll see my coach on Tuesday and stock up on IP drinks. I'll probably start P 1 tomorrow and stay on for two weeks, then do a week of P2 and then a bit of P3 just to cement the loss. I still feel good and most clothes ft, although the 5 pounds shows on my tightest jeans. Funny how we notce that little bit.

But it was a good holiday. Last year I was on P1 and stayed 100% during the holidays. Ths year I allowed myself "treats," although not nearly what I used to do. The sweets did not tempt me like they used to. A small taste was sufficient, and I was abe to resist crazy eating. That felt good. But I knw I overdid the carbs by eating bagels. Ah well.

I really enjoy my " normal" maintenance eating and it felt great to eat my grilled chicken, cucumbers, ad roasted corn last night.

I'm so inspired by you all and want to continue to post and read your posts.

One more day of vacation, then back to school for me.

Happy New Year to you all!

Annik
01-04-2014, 03:07 PM
Happy New Year everyone!

Lizzy I tried lamb once and did NOT like it, have you eaten it a lot throughout your life? I didn't grow up on it....my mom said that's probably why


Ishbel...and my mom says that if the wool touches the flesh while the animal is being processed, a really bad taste goes through the whole meat. She says when we were kids, she had to get rid of a whole lamb that had been cut and wrapped because of the faulty processing. I don't remember that for a bad experience might have very well permanently put me off lamb (as one did off rabbit.)

I didn't eat a lot of lamb while growing up but I really do like it now.

Mom also says that meat from young animals -- like lamb and veal -- is healthier to eat than meat from adult animals... Fewer opportunities for the 'producer' to adulterate with antibiotics, chemicals, etc

Lizzy63
01-04-2014, 09:18 PM
Love the new avatar, Ishbel!

Annik - interesting - I have never heard that before about the wool toiching the flesh.

On day 3 of a little reset. Going well. I can feel my tummy disappearing now that I am staying below 50 carbs daily...

In for some fun weather here in IL. Expecting another 8" of snow, then arctic cold. High on Monday of 15 below (wind chill will be around 35 below). Ick! Think I will not be getting in all of my walking for a couple of days. Maybe will double up tomorrow morning before the temp really starts dropping.

Stay warm, everyone!

swimcoachmomma
01-04-2014, 10:01 PM
Ishbel...and my mom says that if the wool touches the flesh while the animal is being processed, a really bad taste goes through the whole meat. She says when we were kids, she had to get rid of a whole lamb that had been cut and wrapped because of the faulty processing. I don't remember that for a bad experience might have very well permanently put me off lamb (as one did off rabbit.)

I didn't eat a lot of lamb while growing up but I really do like it now.

Mom also says that meat from young animals -- like lamb and veal -- is healthier to eat than meat from adult animals... Fewer opportunities for the 'producer' to adulterate with antibiotics, chemicals, etc


I'm not big on lamb, but we always harvest calf elk in the winter. Like those young animals although it looks pretty funny to hang a 175 pound elk calf next to a 500 pound or greater bull elk. Ours is way better eating.

kkids
01-04-2014, 10:32 PM
Maile - some days it is difficult to eat my entire salad at lunch since I eat with my kinders & that in itself is a treat! :) But salads with some type of chopped protein is my typical lunch. Hubby is awesome - he fixes all the lunches; including mine.
I think I'll do P1 next week as I get back into the routines of school b/c of a little holiday splurge...I do find it more difficult to stay on track when I'm not working, but I'm sure that will change eventually :)
I'm trying to stay up very late this evening b/c I have to get my high school track star & they won't be back until close to 1 a.m. Wonder if I can take a nap before then...

deelee10
01-06-2014, 04:25 PM
Hi all!

Just wondering how many of you are exercising during maintenance? I am down to my original goal (-37) after gaining durini8ng the holidays. I stopped exercising much because I was busier than usual with elderly parents. And I could feel that my physical stamina suffered. So, I started back to exercising, just recumbant bike and a little elliptical after Christmas.I've been adding a little until yesterday I was able to do the elliptical for 25 minutes then did the bike for 25. I was so proud of myself. I was very good on my diet and weighed myself this morning and I GAINED HALF A POUND! I know exercise does not cause weight lose and that we need to exercise because it is good for us but !$*^!! So now I'm pouting and I don't even want to go work out :(. Any advice appreciated!

P.S. I'm going to Mexico Saturday with DS and his new wife and in-laws. Even the MIL is a size 2! She's only 2 years younger than me. They're all very nice but it's making me cranky. I'm a size 8 which is fine in clothes but the jiggly cottage cheese that's even on the front of my thighs is embarrassing. It gets worse with age. I bought a couple of coverups but they don't even go to my knees! Don't these designers realize that there are A LOT of baby boomers in our fifties and sixties and we need a coverup to COVER US UP! Because it's not just the thighs - the upper arms, especially after losing 45 lbs aren't ready for prime time either. Evidently only "Roberto Cavalli" on Bloomiesweb site and they wanted over $300 for that! Decided I'm just going to throw on a shirt and capris.
Thanks for letting me rant! I'm going to the health club!

Ishbel
01-07-2014, 11:30 AM
deelee I was exercising, running really calms me emotionally. I was doing 5-10 km per run. Average 6-8 during a run. It calms me enough that VIP would shoo me out the door to get me to run. I was doing that 3 times a week and would aim for 4 but would usually get 3. At this moment due to some complications I had to stop running and even walking for about 6-7 weeks so now I'm just walking. I use Leslie Sansome walk at home and do 3-5 miles per day 5-6 times a week. Your coverups, totally get it! Can you sew? Or do you know someone that could sew? They could make you a coverup. Are you just concerned about your legs? Just a large square from the fabric store might work too (I've done that when I was in a hurry then asked my mom to hem it to clean it up after the fact).

kkids Maybe your hubby could teach mine how to make lunch?? He's so lost, getting better with the help of a list on the fridge though ha! :) He has his redeeming qualities :)

joysh hows your reboot going?

Lizzy/annik/swimmingcoach I may try lamb again but I won't try it if I'm making it myself LOL Kinda scared now, ick. (sorry)


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I need to tell you how I did these brussels sprouts, WOWZA! I cut them in half, boiled them for 3-4 minutes and then immediately cooled them off under the tap. THEN, I threw them in the frying pan with some green onions and bacon (not a lot just maybe a tbsp of shredded from the bag). When they were just slightly carmelized I removed them and sprinkled some parmesan on them (just enough for a taste). HOLY SMACKAROONS! Y-U-M!

Have a great day! :)

joysh
01-07-2014, 09:08 PM
Hi All!

My reboot is going well. Actually I've just finished Day 2, so it's only just begun...

Saw my coach today and bought some of the IP drinks I like. She's so dear. Anyway, I'm waiting for a Nashua order. I forgot how easy it is, not having to plan meals. All I need is my trusty shaker. But I do miss my Greek yogurt, banana, and granola breakfast. Ah, well, it will return when the six pounds go away and I will be a happy girl to know I caught it before it caught me.

Ishbel, I'm so excited for your pregnancy! You will be a great mom! Are you in touch with LizRR?

My daughter made a wonderful Brussels sprout dish for Christmas that was a lot like the one you described. It turned out a bit shredded, but tasted amazing!

Maile
01-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Here is a link for a new free book and videos. www.fatloser.com
I am going to check it out.

I am back from warm SF and into the cold. I am trying not to worry about my son in Chicago getting frostbite.

Joysh: Those breakfasts are hard to give up. Those are the first things that I cut back on when I am losing up pounds. You are wise to tackle those pounds now.

Ishbel: You pregnancy is going so well. You are staying health and happy! I have made tanguine without the pot. I would like one of those pots. Your brussel sprouts sound yummy and very French with cooling them in water.

Kkids: You have a busy lunch with those K kids. They are adorable but very active. I hope your son arrived Ok with that late night.

Deelee: I exercise almost daily and lift weights. My weight did go up a few pounds when I started lifting weights. After a year my arms and legs really toned up. I hope you find some clothes that you like for that cruise. It is frustrating that the fashion industry does not provide better options.

Lizzy63: I wish you well in that arctic cold in IL. Thank goodness it is warming to 5 degrees today.

FitMom02
01-08-2014, 11:05 PM
Hi maintainers!!! I am entering maintenance tomorrow! Thanks for the support you have given me so far!

In phase 3, I did gain the 2 lbs. But I'm ok with that...and was expecting it. I'm thinking of just adding some fat to my lunch tomorrow...some string cheese + 1/4 avocado along with my salad & chicken. Then adding my carb dinners in a couple of days.

Can you recommend any good cookbooks for maintenance? Due to your discussions, I have purchased the Refuse to Regain book & the State of Slim. They do look good.

I have also started the NEW p90X3 workouts. They are 30 minutes long...I'm in week 2. It feels Wonderful to workout again, I'm thinking of adding some incline walking.

Sorry about rambling on & on, I'm just really excited to be here!

Maile
01-09-2014, 09:23 AM
Fitmom: I am excited for you on maintenance. I do not use cookbooks but go to websites for recipes. I like all recipes.com, food network, kaylin's kitchen food blog,or sparkpeople. I found that finding foods that you really like to eat helps you stay happy on maintenance. I think it is good that you are slowly adding foods as you go!

jelliehel
01-09-2014, 10:52 AM
Maile: You said you exercise almost daily and lift weights. What size weights do you use and how long do you do it for? I have been using 3-5 pound weights about 4 times/week. I do a 9 minute sculpting routine I found on sparkpeople in addition to 30-45 minutes of cardio with weights/stretchy band. I have been doing it for about 6 months now. I do notice definition in my arms but I have that bat wing thingy going on. I REALLY want to wear a tank top this summer but am so self conscious. I'm not sure if the extra skin will get better or won't with weights. I guess time will tell. Do you have any experience with this same issue? Does anyone else? Thanks for any advice/help.

Maile
01-10-2014, 08:50 AM
I do the Nautilus circuit weight stations at my gym. They are not free weights but are the machines...so my weights might be 50 pounds of resistance or higher.
I also was embarrassed to wear sleeveless tops. I found after a year that my arms looked much more defined..not perfect but muscular. I do around half an hour of weights.
Do you have access to a gym?

It sound like you have a good exercise program.
The only thing I can think of is to expand your arm exercises with a few different ones.

jelliehel
01-10-2014, 01:06 PM
Thanks for your response Maile! I haven't joined a gym yet. I have been tossing around the idea. I think I have too if I want to work harder on my arm issue. Thanks again for your help!

Lizzy63
01-12-2014, 06:30 PM
Hi - just checking in.

Deelee - I walk about 45 minutes daily. Working on increasing that, but hard to find time!

So, I have been struggling with back problems off and on for about 10 years. Got really bad about 2 weeks ago and I insisted on some follow up because I feel like this should not happen so often and it was worse than usual. Turns out I have degenerative disc disease, arthritis in my spine and scoliosis - eek. Taking lots of pain meds and starting physical therapy Thursday. At least I can still walk - that actually seems to make it feel better. I have eaten some things I shouldn't while feeling sorry for myself - that's gotta stop (both feeling sorry for myself and eating bad things)!

Back on the wagon tomorrow! No more junk!

lisa32989
01-12-2014, 06:48 PM
Hi - just checking in.

Deelee - I walk about 45 minutes daily. Working on increasing that, but hard to find time!

So, I have been struggling with back problems off and on for about 10 years. Got really bad about 2 weeks ago and I insisted on some follow up because I feel like this should not happen so often and it was worse than usual. Turns out I have degenerative disc disease, arthritis in my spine and scoliosis - eek. Taking lots of pain meds and starting physical therapy Thursday. At least I can still walk - that actually seems to make it feel better. I have eaten some things I shouldn't while feeling sorry for myself - that's gotta stop (both feeling sorry for myself and eating bad things)!

Back on the wagon tomorrow! No more junk!
I have chronic back problems and have been in PT since April.
I've learned I'll need to continue PT for life to keep my back problems manageable. Eating junk makes it worse b/c it increases inflammation. The cleaner I eat, the better. I've learned that gluten-free is really best for me.

I'm no longer on any pain meds & just managing it with exercise. It'll take time but it can be done! We will be stronger for it.

I can't walk very far without pain (about 30 mins, slowly). The PT may take some time (weeks to show a difference, months to really feel progress)

Sunflower40
01-13-2014, 04:57 PM
Hi Maintainers, I saw this on FB and thought it would be a great recipe for maintenance. Looks very yummy and nutritious
http://www.theyummylife.com/Refrigerator_Oatmeal

65X65
01-13-2014, 06:42 PM
Hi Maintainers, I saw this on FB and thought it would be a great recipe for maintenance. Looks very yummy and nutritious
http://www.theyummylife.com/Refrigerator_Oatmeal

These are rather high in carbs for me...I think anyone who needs to monitor carbs in maintenance might not find this a good option. A lot of us on here are going to be paying a lot of attention to carbs in maintenance and forward so as NOT to end up back at square 1 again. Probably a great thing for kids and teens that do not have a weight issue dogging them tho' ...they do look scrumptious... but for me, I'd go cautiously!

Sunflower40
01-13-2014, 07:34 PM
but aren't these oats good carbs? the Chai Seeds are rich in Omega 3's and the Greek yogurt high in protein, just thought it sounded healthy, not so much high in carbs, but I could see what you're saying for those who are carb sensitive.

drd1961
01-13-2014, 07:48 PM
These are rather high in carbs for me...I think anyone who needs to monitor carbs in maintenance might not find this a good option. A lot of us on here are going to be paying a lot of attention to carbs in maintenance and forward so as NOT to end up back at square 1 again. Probably a great thing for kids and teens that do not have a weight issue dogging them tho' ...they do look scrumptious... but for me, I'd go cautiously!

Just curious since I will probably be looking at maintenance by March, how many carbs a day do you tolerate without gaining?

DRegan
01-13-2014, 07:49 PM
but aren't these oats good carbs? the Chai Seeds are rich in Omega 3's and the Greek yogurt high in protein, just thought it sounded healthy, not so much high in carbs, but I could see what you're saying for those who are carb sensitive.

They do look yummy. But that would pretty much put me at my carb limit
for the entire day. Also doing paleo for maintnence I don't do grains or dairy.
My DH might like these for a healthier desert.

Enjoy if your not carb/sugar sensitive!

D

lisa32989
01-13-2014, 07:55 PM
Hi Maintainers, I saw this on FB and thought it would be a great recipe for maintenance. Looks very yummy and nutritious
http://www.theyummylife.com/Refrigerator_Oatmeal

With some modifications, might be workable for P3 breakfasts
The carbs are kind've high for the low calories. But it might be something to play with (no added sugar, use full fat milk instead of skim, & full fat yogurt, etc)

Ishbel
01-13-2014, 08:03 PM
I would halve the oats and use unsweetened almond milk (30 Cals per cup and 0 sugar) and stick to berries or half the banana etc. I'd also add a scoop of protein powder or an egg (most likely and egg as I love my eggs)

I saved this on Facebook and might be tempted one day. Currently still love my original P3 brekkie and have a hard time eating something else. Would most definately use this for brekkie.

DRegan
01-13-2014, 08:52 PM
Isabel,

How are you feeling? Is that little one active in that belly?
Just held a little one the other day, my kids first babysitters son, can't
believe she's a Mom now. She had a boy after 2 invetro tries, a miracle
for sure! So sweet!

Hope all is well,

D

Maile
01-14-2014, 08:55 AM
Lizzy63: I was so sorry to hear about your back ailments. I hope your PT can help. That is hard.
Lisa32: I hope your PT is helping your back as well. I pulled my sciatica a few weeks ago and PT really helped. Like you I think I need to do daily exercises for the rest of my life.

Sunflower40: I like the idea of a quick pre made breakfast. It sounds good. I would also cut carbs with the almond milk. Oatmeal is good! Sometimes I make an oatmeal pancake with 1/2 c oatmeal, splenda, baking powder and 5 egg whites. It reminds me of the P1 crispy Cereal Pancakes.

Ishbel: I hope you are continuing to feel well!

I have read the book on www.fatloser.com. He also has free videos that are good. It is a tough no excuse approach to weight loss. This can be helpful if you are feeling complacent!

65X65
01-14-2014, 09:21 AM
Just curious since I will probably be looking at maintenance by March, how many carbs a day do you tolerate without gaining?


For the most part I do P-2-eating with a modified P3 breakfast. If I have whole eggs I do a salad with 1 or 2 poached eggs for breakfast. Berries and nuts and the higher carb veggies are exceptions that I added during early December. With Christmas I had some GF cookies...chocolate and wine and immediately put on 6 pounds! I've been on a modified P1-2 since Jan 1 and have lost 4.5 of that already so know for sure, I'm incredibly carb sensitive. Once getting to where there is rebound room...I will be very careful.

At my height...my BMR does not allow a lot of calories/day. Under 1200! That means if I use 25% of my calories and close to 100% of my carb intake at breakfast....it's going to be a long day. I had oatmeal 2X during that few months and did not find it was enough to keep me satisfied the rest of the day on what was left in my calorie/carb bank. Now I believe somewhere between 40-50 carbs is my maintenace limit with the expectation that as I approach 50-60 carbs for the day I will see gain. More analysis of that in the spring once retrying with out the sidetrack of holiday parties and a few special treats. ( Bless my brother and my son in law). My extra carbs will come from OCCASIONAL starch...but mostly the higher glycemic veggies which are not part of the list for P1&2. Carrots in my salad...beets, eggplant, avacados and artichokes, beans in my chili and tomatoes...esp this coming summer and my heirloom tomatoes start gracing the table every day.

We each have to find our way with this. I advocate going slow...and paying attention to the BMR that belongs to you. Age and your height are going to be major factors. My maintenance intake is not a whole lot above the IP daily. I'm going to cherish those additional 250-300 calories...and be jealous of you ladies who are 6-8 inches taller than me! But I've made my peace with it. I love my collar bones, my hip bones and being able to sprint to the baggage claim at O'Hare and Atlanta. And looking forward to a lot of travel in the next few years where I can hike, bike walk , eat carefully...sometimes just a taste...and enjoy life.

Sorry this is so long..but thought how I am doing it is something to share, esp with the smaller frame ladies. Most of the literature on maintenance does not address that factor deeply enough...(and it does no good to feel cheated.) You're only chance is going to be growing wider if you do not consider your height a MAJOR maintenance component.....the tall thing is not going to happen.:^:

65X65
01-14-2014, 09:25 AM
They do look yummy. But that would pretty much put me at my carb limit
for the entire day. Also doing paleo for maintnence I don't do grains or dairy.
My DH might like these for a healthier desert.

Enjoy if your not carb/sugar sensitive!

D

I'm with you...and believe our vertical metrics...challenge desire for acceptable horizontal reality!:nono:

Ishbel
01-14-2014, 10:03 AM
Let me clarify my post. I would eat a hard boiled egg with that yogurt not add it to the mix LOL

drd1961 It's important that you take it slow and track it for a while so you know what YOUR body reacts to. I can eat things that others on here can't and I can't eat some of the things they can. During my year of tracking I noticed wine didn't help me at all. I used/use my net diary (still track my weight), some people use myfitnesspal. I spent a year tracking and stopped at the end of May and since then have gained confidence in my choices long term.

DRegan Yes there is movement, for sure at 17 weeks but now I know it was before that. VIP laughs at me as I'll have my fruit and say "ok, wake up now" he usually says "let her/him rest!" and I say "well, she/he won't let us rest when he/she's born!" He hasn't felt her yet when his hand has been right on the movement so I think it's just a matter of time. :)

maile I'm tired this week...this past 10 days I've been in bed before 9:00 and sometimes at 7:30. Must be growing something :) Course, could be all the finishing of the renovations in my house. Spent the last couple of days/nights painting the basement. Carpet is installed this week and picking out the bathroom fixtures this weekend. Getting excited. I'm not doing too well with the walking this week but still managing 2-3 times plus my yoga. I had been eyeing up a yoga bolster for years but kept thinking "nah, use a pillow" then the yoga instructor showed us child pose massage that we could teach our hubby. My eyes went wide and I thought "and SOLD!" and bought one that night. HA!

drd1961
01-14-2014, 10:04 AM
For the most part I do P-2-eating with a modified P3 breakfast. If I have whole eggs I do a salad with 1 or 2 poached eggs for breakfast. Berries and nuts and the higher carb veggies are exceptions that I added during early December. With Christmas I had some GF cookies...chocolate and wine and immediately put on 6 pounds! I've been on a modified P1-2 since Jan 1 and have lost 4.5 of that already so know for sure, I'm incredibly carb sensitive. Once getting to where there is rebound room...I will be very careful.

At my height...my BMR does not allow a lot of calories/day. Under 1200! That means if I use 25% of my calories and close to 100% of my carb intake at breakfast....it's going to be a long day. I had oatmeal 2X during that few months and did not find it was enough to keep me satisfied the rest of the day on what was left in my calorie/carb bank. Now I believe somewhere between 40-50 carbs is my maintenace limit with the expectation that as I approach 50-60 carbs for the day I will see gain. More analysis of that in the spring once retrying with out the sidetrack of holiday parties and a few special treats. ( Bless my brother and my son in law). My extra carbs will come from OCCASIONAL starch...but mostly the higher glycemic veggies which are not part of the list for P1&2. Carrots in my salad...beets, eggplant, avacados and artichokes, beans in my chili and tomatoes...esp this coming summer and my heirloom tomatoes start gracing the table every day.

We each have to find our way with this. I advocate going slow...and paying attention to the BMR that belongs to you. Age and your height are going to be major factors. My maintenance intake is not a whole lot above the IP daily. I'm going to cherish those additional 250-300 calories...and be jealous of you ladies who are 6-8 inches taller than me! But I've made my peace with it. I love my collar bones, my hip bones and being able to sprint to the baggage claim at O'Hare and Atlanta. And looking forward to a lot of travel in the next few years where I can hike, bike walk , eat carefully...sometimes just a taste...and enjoy life.

Sorry this is so long..but thought how I am doing it is something to share, esp with the smaller frame ladies. Most of the literature on maintenance does not address that factor deeply enough...(and it does no good to feel cheated.) You're only chance is going to be growing wider if you do not consider your height a MAJOR maintenance component.....the tall thing is not going to happen.:^:

Thanks, this is interesting. I love how I feel on low-carb, but I actually do not feel all that carb sensitive. I have been tracking my carbs in myfitnesspal and find my average net is about 40 a day and I am losing great on that. It gives me hope that I will have wiggle room for HEALTHY carbs when I move to maintenance. I have a very, very muscular frame and even at 52 seem to be able to maintain that frame, so perhaps that helps. I have also been reviewing the Paleo diet. Seems like a healthy way to maintain.

mars735
01-14-2014, 10:07 AM
For the most part I do P-2-eating with a modified P3 breakfast. If I have whole eggs I do a salad with 1 or 2 poached eggs for breakfast. Berries and nuts and the higher carb veggies are exceptions that I added during early December. With Christmas I had some GF cookies...chocolate and wine and immediately put on 6 pounds! I've been on a modified P1-2 since Jan 1 and have lost 4.5 of that already so know for sure, I'm incredibly carb sensitive. Once getting to where there is rebound room...I will be very careful.

At my height...my BMR does not allow a lot of calories/day. Under 1200! That means if I use 25% of my calories and close to 100% of my carb intake at breakfast....it's going to be a long day. I had oatmeal 2X during that few months and did not find it was enough to keep me satisfied the rest of the day on what was left in my calorie/carb bank. Now I believe somewhere between 40-50 carbs is my maintenace limit with the expectation that as I approach 50-60 carbs for the day I will see gain. More analysis of that in the spring once retrying with out the sidetrack of holiday parties and a few special treats. ( Bless my brother and my son in law). My extra carbs will come from OCCASIONAL starch...but mostly the higher glycemic veggies which are not part of the list for P1&2. Carrots in my salad...beets, eggplant, avacados and artichokes, beans in my chili and tomatoes...esp this coming summer and my heirloom tomatoes start gracing the table every day.

We each have to find our way with this. I advocate going slow...and paying attention to the BMR that belongs to you. Age and your height are going to be major factors. My maintenance intake is not a whole lot above the IP daily. I'm going to cherish those additional 250-300 calories...and be jealous of you ladies who are 6-8 inches taller than me! But I've made my peace with it. I love my collar bones, my hip bones and being able to sprint to the baggage claim at O'Hare and Atlanta. And looking forward to a lot of travel in the next few years where I can hike, bike walk , eat carefully...sometimes just a taste...and enjoy life.

Sorry this is so long..but thought how I am doing it is something to share, esp with the smaller frame ladies. Most of the literature on maintenance does not address that factor deeply enough...(and it does no good to feel cheated.) You're only chance is going to be growing wider if you do not consider your height a MAJOR maintenance component.....the tall thing is not going to happen.:^:

Too true, everything you wrote applies to me in spades, except that I gained 12 lbs. Thanks for putting it all so succinctly, as you always do.

sarita75
01-14-2014, 01:38 PM
Hello all. Hope everyone is doing well. So, I am curious. People are mentioning carb limits and such - can anyone provide more specifics? My coach said I could do 2000 calories per day on a non-workout day, 2300 on a workout day. I haven't been following this, and been keeping net calories around 1250-1300. I am curious about the carb limits though. Any information would be great!

mars735
01-15-2014, 12:47 AM
Hello all. Hope everyone is doing well. So, I am curious. People are mentioning carb limits and such - can anyone provide more specifics? My coach said I could do 2000 calories per day on a non-workout day, 2300 on a workout day. I haven't been following this, and been keeping net calories around 1250-1300. I am curious about the carb limits though. Any information would be great!

My coach told me low carb on P4 is about 50-70 grams. I feel best with 70-100 carbs with 1600 cal daily total. (I'm 60).

sarita75
01-15-2014, 02:01 PM
My coach told me low carb on P4 is about 50-70 grams. I feel best with 70-100 carbs with 1600 cal daily total. (I'm 60).

Interesting. I will have to start looking at that to see where I am falling. I suspect it is 70-100 due to my activity level and fueling that. Thanks so much, Mars735!

dak1lls
01-15-2014, 02:08 PM
I have wondered about the amount of carbs per day as well. There are a variety of sources that give different amounts, so it is all rather confusing. One web site mentioned the following:

The Institute of Medicine encourages all women to consume at least 130 grams of carbohydrates each day. A woman’s individualized carbohydrate needs are based on her recommended calorie requirements, weight management goals and physical activity level.

Further on in the article it stated this:

According to the Institute of Medicine, adult women should consume 45 to 65 percent of their daily calories from carbohydrates.

This seems like a lot of carbs to me. The web site is healthyeating.com.

65X65
01-15-2014, 02:44 PM
I think it still comes down to individual metabolism...and for the most part if you are carb sensitive...you are on your own. If you are NOT...then go for it.

If you are, the hope is you have a physician who is well read enough and agrees there is NOT one set of standards that apply to all women (or men actually) and encourages you to follow a low carb diet..(not no carb).
Being gluten free for the last 8 years, my carbs were already pretty well below someone who is not gluten free. The missing piece for me was to get the low limit of carbs to run my machine from sources that are also low on the glycemic index...and the distribution of carb/protein/fat for me is absolutely not in line with the "daily recommended" food pyramid.

If I do that, with being insulin resistant, those extra carbs WILL go to fat. Quickly. I'd be up pushing 200 lbs again in no time. Trying to tailor my previous diet to those standards bought me 14 years of constant dieting ...misery and increasing weight gain.

I'm pretty active...and always have been, but size does me no favors when it comes to BMR. Those average numbers and distribution of daily carbs,fat and protein in most journal articles are for someone who is "average" in size also. Four or five inches makes a significant difference in computing daily caloric needs. And ...God bless anyone who does not have insulin resistance to deal with!

sarita75
01-15-2014, 03:02 PM
How was it determined that you are insulin resistant 65x65?

65X65
01-15-2014, 03:23 PM
How was it determined that you are insulin resistant 65x65?

Endocrinologist pegged it due to the weight gain in spite of compliance with medication, diet and exercise. (I kept food diaries, and had personal trainers...as well as walked on treadmill an hr every AM before heading out to work for several years with minimal results) Am on medication for high cholesterol and triglycerides and there is a strong family history of diabetes and a few other diseases that tend to strike in clusters in families, and are seen with metabolic problems. I have 2 sisters who also have it. One also has PCOS and the other has Kidney damage and may actually need a transplant. There is a whopping number of extended and immediate family with hypothyroidism. (Not Hashimotos)I have been hypothyroid for over 30 years.

65X65
01-15-2014, 03:32 PM
I should add regarding the auto immune problems, some of the research relates them to each other. Diabetes and celiac are sometimes seen in the same families...and we have that as well.

sarita75
01-15-2014, 04:10 PM
Thanks 65x65, I have PCOS and have always wondered if it contributes ...

65X65
01-15-2014, 04:44 PM
Thanks 65x65, I have PCOS and have always wondered if it contributes ...

Sorry to hear that...that can be a rough diagnosis, and like much of this stuff happens with varying degrees of symptoms. You seem to be maintaining...but are you keeping cals/carbs lower than your BMR? I adjusted to keep my carbs at 20-25% of my intake. From how fast I gained from Dec 19-28th...I think seltzer water will be my beverage of choice! I did not eat and drink 10,000+ calories of wine over Christmas week to account for 3 pounds beyond the glycogen rebound!!

There is actually a "cluster" of mostly auto immune diagnoses , and a lot can overlap..causing mega confusion when not full blown, and the final diagnoses (if some one is persistent) is often a while coming. My other daughter has lupus, also auto immune. We went through *#4@!#! with my daughter's health issues who has celiac before confirmatory tests were finally done. She had problems from celiac which contributed to infertility..but we do have beautiful granddaughters because they were willing to try IVF to have a family. Years ago a lovely young female internal med MD told me she had only seen Atkins work for someone like me...I tried it...but it was way too restrictive. I did lose...The endocrinologist she sent me to was sympathetic that WW did not work and I gained...but all she said was..."Yes...you would gain on that...your family history and your own symptoms suggest a lot of things going on" Well gee...thanks.
I think it's better now...more research and modifications to low carb have reputable sources taking a step back and reevaluating.

sarita75
01-15-2014, 05:12 PM
My BMR is about 1400 at my current weight and I eat keep my calories at about 1250 per day (net, if exercising; gross, if not). Admittedly I have not been adjusting the formula in MFP to have the carbs be anything.

I just adjusted to 25% which allows me about 78 grams of carbs per day. That is a little low, I think, given my levels of activity (running about 12-20 miles per week, cycling). I am going to see about hitting 25-30% (the latter increases it to 94 grams and see about sticking within those. I had somewhat cycled off P4 to P3 a little bit as I was worried about the carbs, but perhaps I just need to use more moderation, rather than to simply follow the coach's advice of 1-2 servings of carbs at dinner, which can easily 40 g of carbs, or more.

Thanks 65x65!

lisa32989
01-15-2014, 05:14 PM
A LOT of what I'm learning from the natural health community is that much of the autoimmune issues can be eased, if not completely reversed, by gluten free and low carb living.

I've heard from several sources (recently on Dr Oz) that when new research shows something, it takes mainstream medicine an average of SEVENTEEN YEARS to incorporate it. That is WAY.TOO.LONG.

65X65
01-15-2014, 05:19 PM
My BMR is about 1400 at my current weight and I eat keep my calories at about 1250 per day (net, if exercising; gross, if not). Admittedly I have not been adjusting the formula in MFP to have the carbs be anything. I am going to play around with their stats now! :)

I use it periodically for the P2 days ...it helps me see what I'm doing with the distribution. Don't like MFP overall because my exercise is not one of their standards. The circuit at my gym changes the timing and resistance of each station week to week...there are 11 stations with cardio recovery pads in between and the strength training on MFP log requires one to enter # of reps for each type of exercise.....just not worth it! I do it for 45-60 min ...and that's good enough!

65X65
01-15-2014, 05:30 PM
A LOT of what I'm learning from the natural health community is that much of the autoimmune issues can be eased, if not completely reversed, by gluten free and low carb living.

I've heard from several sources (recently on Dr Oz) that when new research shows something, it takes mainstream medicine an average of SEVENTEEN YEARS to incorporate it. That is WAY.TOO.LONG.

You are SOO right. I have a friend with an adult son with severe Juvenile Diabetes who was suggested to go GF a few years ago to help slow his progression.

The unbelieveable (good) thing for me though, is how fast my body got rid of excess holiday weight ...Like you and others, I think I probably needed the break this fall...but as soon as I re-started strict P1-2 like whoosh! Seriously...not even 2 weeks and I dropped 4 of the 6 lbs I gained?!! And that did include 1 night of a cooking class my DH had previously signed us up for last Wednesday evening..."Lo carb, GF High flavor". {Same place we took the Paleo class last fall. }

It is too bad though that there are still so many in the medical community who think there is one answer to obesity. Obesity is the result of a cluster of diseases...and they have not begun to unscramble the omlette for that!

dak1lls
01-15-2014, 05:35 PM
From a very "un" scientific perspective, I definitely notice a big difference when I reduce refined carbs, and adhere to a gluten free diet. It impacts me in so many ways, joint pain and swelling, stomach discomfort (acid reflux), headaches, etc....With my family history of diabetes it is good to know the association. Thanks for the info ladies.

FitMom02
01-16-2014, 11:42 PM
I am up to about 1400-1500 calories, with about 120 to 130 carb grams per day! Hmmm...maybe I'm too high?? I read on Maintainers Vol 9...that it was recommended to eat between 100-150 grams of carbs per day...with 55 to 65 grams of fat per day ( for someone similar to my height). So I have been almost doing that this past week. My weight SEEMS steady.

However, I am 5'5"...39 years old; and I have been doing p90X3 workouts daily...with some added incline walking. Tonight I added more sprouted grain to my meal (bringing calories to almost 1500)...we'll see how that affects the ole scale tomorrow.

FitMom02
01-16-2014, 11:57 PM
This had me thinking, so I reviewed those carbs...and found that I consumed 134 TOTAL carbs....net carbs amounted to exactly 100! A lot of what I eat has a lot of fiber in it!

Maile
01-17-2014, 09:20 AM
I believe the net carbs are what are important.

I think I am insulin resistant also as my family had diabetes and low thyroid. What I found interesting in a diabetes class was the way they now relate diabetes to heart disease.

Anytwy, low carb eating has been the only way I have maintained my weight loss in many years.

65X65
01-17-2014, 09:27 AM
I believe the net carbs are what are important.

I think I am insulin resistant also as my family had diabetes and low thyroid. What I found interesting in a diabetes class was the way they now relate diabetes to heart disease.

Anytwy, low carb eating has been the only way I have maintained my weight loss in many years.
AMEN Maile...diabetes and unstable high normal blood glucose is also being linked to dementia and alzheimers now. Scarey. We have the hypo-thyroid in over 1/2 of my siblings, and all 9 of my mother's siblings, and Juvenile diabetes and dementia in my mother's family. No one is not at risk among us.
There are articles recently and media coverage on lo carb diets now being suggested as action those at risk might want to consider.....

mars735
01-17-2014, 09:30 AM
This had me thinking, so I reviewed those carbs...and found that I consumed 134 TOTAL carbs....net carbs amounted to exactly 100! A lot of what I eat has a lot of fiber in it!

While I understand the difference between net & total carbs, I am curious what it means in the body. Are the subtracted carbs absorbed at all--do they contribute to the calorie count? Are they simply absorbed so slowly that they do not stimulate insulin secretion? Is there an upper limit of fiber before it behaves like regular carbs?

PurpleMomster
01-17-2014, 10:05 AM
Hi all! I just wanted to say that I've been reading your posts and you all have such a wealth of helpful information!

I'm currently in P4/Maintenance - I phased off for a trip to Mexico coming up in 9 days (not that I'm counting or anything, lol!). While I did do a P4 day on Wednesday - fat rich/carb poor lunch, carb rich/fat poor supper - I didn't feel all that great yesterday and am fairly certain it was the introduction of the additional carbs that did it. I'm having a "fun day" today - but only for one meal, lunch, but I think I'm going to do a P1 weekend just to help "reset".

This is definitely showing me that carbs can be a trigger for me and I am going to have to experiment once I have reached goal to find the proper balance and what my limit is for carbs.

Thanks again for all your helpful information - I look forward to being able to join you all when I reach goal in a few months <fingers and toes crossed>!

Jo

lisa32989
01-17-2014, 12:00 PM
I am up to about 1400-1500 calories, with about 120 to 130 carb grams per day! Hmmm...maybe I'm too high?? I read on Maintainers Vol 9...that it was recommended to eat between 100-150 grams of carbs per day...with 55 to 65 grams of fat per day ( for someone similar to my height). So I have been almost doing that this past week. My weight SEEMS steady.

However, I am 5'5"...39 years old; and I have been doing p90X3 workouts daily...with some added incline walking. Tonight I added more sprouted grain to my meal (bringing calories to almost 1500)...we'll see how that affects the ole scale tomorrow.
I think everyone's mileage will vary based on age, activity level, and overall metabolism rate (which is highly individualized). If you're maintaining with what you're doing, then it isn't too high FOR YOU

While I understand the difference between net & total carbs, I am curious what it means in the body. Are the subtracted carbs absorbed at all--do they contribute to the calorie count? Are they simply absorbed so slowly that they do not stimulate insulin secretion? Is there an upper limit of fiber before it behaves like regular carbs?
Most of the fiber carbs are excreted in the bowels.
Carbs from sugar alcohols leave more to interpretation. I count them "in" my net carbs, rather than leaving them out.

dak1lls
01-17-2014, 01:29 PM
I believe the net carbs are what are important.

I think I am insulin resistant also as my family had diabetes and low thyroid. What I found interesting in a diabetes class was the way they now relate diabetes to heart disease.

Anytwy, low carb eating has been the only way I have maintained my weight loss in many years.

Yes Maile, definitely diabetes is related to heart disease. My mother developed diabetes and died of heart disease at the age of 60, her mother and brother died of the same thing at young ages as well. Boy, what a wake up call for me as I creep closer to that age; a huge part of why I started IP.

I have learned so much from this site and everyone's input. Why didn't I take my health seriously when I was younger!? I am trying to pass on good things to my kids so they won't go down the same unhealthy path and don't risk developing health problems; diabetes and heart disease, as they get older.

I think everyone's mileage will vary based on age, activity level, and overall metabolism rate (which is highly individualized). If you're maintaining with what you're doing, then it isn't too high FOR YOU


Most of the fiber carbs are excreted in the bowels.
Carbs from sugar alcohols leave more to interpretation. I count them "in" my net carbs, rather than leaving them out.

Good info Lisa. We are all affected differently by carbs, as many others can attest to as well! While they set me up for cravings and inflammation, I don't tend to gain quickly when I increase mine.

I have always been a bit confused on the sugar alcohol thing, but have erred on the side of caution and included them as well. It certainly makes sense to subtract the fiber carbs now that you mention that.

joysh
01-17-2014, 02:51 PM
Hi Everyone! Just checking in.

I'm a week and a half into my little reboot, just to take off the 6 pounds that found me over the past few months. It's been fine, and I'm down 3-4 pounds already. I figure I'll continue P1 for one more week, then phase off. This is my first time back in ketosis since last April.

All else is fine with me. The semester has begun, so I'm busy again.

I do know that keeping a journal (I use MFP) and checking in here are really important.

Best wishes to all!

FitMom02
01-17-2014, 06:08 PM
Yep...just as I thought...up 1 lb this morning. Grrr...probably too many carbs at dinner...or could it be from the strength training? I'll be cutting back tonight. I'm almost tempted to do a P1 day to erase that pound. like many of you, i wish there were better guidelines to follow in P4. My clothes still fit the same of course, and I do feel great. I ran into my old dean...and he said that I looked fantastic...kind of made my day! :)

On a side note...I had my annual checkup on about day 5 Of Phase 3. In my blood work...my total cholesterol was 205, HDL 95, triglycerides 54, LDL 100. So not too bad there. But the SCARY part was my liver enzymes...they are way too high & out of the ballpark. I have to go back in to retest my blood & have an ultrasound of my liver & gallbladder. In 2010 all of these results were perfect. My TSH came back fine for the thyroid. Do you think this could just be due to phasing off of this diet? My coach thinks so. This just scares me that something could be wrong...just when I feel great.

FitMom02
01-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Hi Everyone! Just checking in.

I'm a week and a half into my little reboot, just to take off the 6 pounds that found me over the past few months. It's been fine, and I'm down 3-4 pounds already. I figure I'll continue P1 for be more week, then phase off. This is my first time back in ketosis since last April.

All else is fine with me. The semester as begun, so I'm busy again.

I do know that keeping a journal (I use MFP) and checking in here are really important.

Best wishes to all!

Congrats on your reboot! I take it you teach, too! Good luck this semester!

Maile
01-19-2014, 09:58 AM
Fitmom: I hope your blood work is OK. I showed high in protein in my blood work. It is frustrating just when you think you are in good health to have to deal with lab results. I use the 3 percent range..if I go up a pound or two I will go into a P1 to get it off. If that pound does not go away, just do a P1 for a few days.

Joysh: Your reboot is going well. Good luck with the new semester. I am swamped doing grades from the last one.

Dak1lls: My dad also had diabetes and developed heart disease. The reason I lost my weight was because I had a pre-diabetes high blood sugar. I did not want to get diabetes. I wish I had learned to be healthy when I was younger also.

Mars735: I am not an expert, but think there is no limit to the amount of fiber you can have. I have never seen anything along those lines.

Purplemonster: Welcome to maintenance. Carbs are a trigger for me also. I hope you have a wonderful trip to Mexico!

65x65: That is scary about diabetes and blood sugar being related to dementia and alzheimers. The increasing rate of juvenile diabetes is depressing. I see so much of that in my low income students. Many are overweight by 4th and 5th grades.

Here is my Non Scale Victory. My husband compiled a DVD of old family videos. It was from the birth of my twins, through my third son and last my daughter.
Normally I absolutely hate looking at myself when I was obese. This time I looked at the old overweight me and thought. That is who you were. You are not that person now. (And I will never be again.) Instead of feeling sad, I felt resolved.

65X65
01-19-2014, 10:34 AM
Fitmom: I hope your blood work is OK. I showed high in protein in my blood work. It is frustrating just when you think you are in good health to have to deal with lab results. I use the 3 percent range..if I go up a pound or two I will go into a P1 to get it off. If that pound does not go away, just do a P1 for a few days.

Joysh: Your reboot is going well. Good luck with the new semester. I am swamped doing grades from the last one.

Dak1lls: My dad also had diabetes and developed heart disease. The reason I lost my weight was because I had a pre-diabetes high blood sugar. I did not want to get diabetes. I wish I had learned to be healthy when I was younger also.

Mars735: I am not an expert, but think there is no limit to the amount of fiber you can have. I have never seen anything along those lines.

Purplemonster: Welcome to maintenance. Carbs are a trigger for me also. I hope you have a wonderful trip to Mexico!

65x65: That is scary about diabetes and blood sugar being related to dementia and alzheimers. The increasing rate of juvenile diabetes is depressing. I see so much of that in my low income students. Many are overweight by 4th and 5th grades.

Here is my Non Scale Victory. My husband compiled a DVD of old family videos. It was from the birth of my twins, through my third son and last my daughter.
Normally I absolutely hate looking at myself when I was obese. This time I looked at the old overweight me and thought. That is who you were. You are not that person now. (And I will never be again.) Instead of feeling sad, I felt resolved.

Kudos to all for the recognition of where we were and celebration for the resolve to stay where we are!

Health factors being a biggie for everyone is motivation..thanks for sharing.

Maile...love your NSV...but actually ..I think it is a scale victory!!!! A really big one!! Congrats!

mars735
01-19-2014, 10:49 AM
Most of the fiber carbs are excreted in the bowels.
Carbs from sugar alcohols leave more to interpretation. I count them "in" my net carbs, rather than leaving them out.

Thanks for the good info, Lisa.

Maile, congratulations and thanks for them fighting words: "I feel resolved"!

Ishbel
01-20-2014, 10:11 AM
Morning pity party starts now....

I've had a rough couple of 10 days. Started in Dec with a filling that should have been done from my last check up but got lost in communication between my dental office and myself. So we did it before Christmas, it started to hurt about 2 weeks ago and progressively got worse. When back in, apparently the bite was wrong, shaved it down. Still got worse, went back in and they gave me something for sensitivity AND then went BACK in for another dentist to look at it. THEN called the office on Saturday morning because I couldn't sleep anymore and I was in tears (literally could NOT sleep specifically on my left side) and I'm only allowed tylenyol and THAT only 6 times in a 24 hour period apparently (UGH!). Emergency root canal on Saturday (he opened the office and did it as quickly as he could). I texted him on Sunday cause the pain was back and now I'm on antibodics. a;lsdkjfalskdjfl;asjdf SO SO SO cranky moody and tired....pretty sure the bite is still wrong but it's so tender right now I'm not using that side anyway. Pretty sure that the nerve just got tired of fighting the bad bite and then just wouldn't settle down completely and once that's happened it's hooped. WOULD LOVE SOME ADVIL THOUGH! ugh!

.....on the upside during my moments of clarity I found this thread an interesting read. I have a lot of diabeties in my family and thyroid issues (I was pre-diabetic and on metformin before IP). 65X65 I envy your background and dedication to tracking everything with your medical team. It has never been confirmed technically but my doc agrees that I am insulin resistant just due to all my history. I was never good at sticking to something like you were to show a doctor how well I was doing (I could not do THAT well for THAT long)

65X65
01-20-2014, 10:33 AM
Morning pity party starts now....

I've had a rough couple of 10 days. Started in Dec with a filling that should have been done from my last check up but got lost in communication between my dental office and myself. So we did it before Christmas, it started to hurt about 2 weeks ago and progressively got worse. When back in, apparently the bite was wrong, shaved it down. Still got worse, went back in and they gave me something for sensitivity AND then went BACK in for another dentist to look at it. THEN called the office on Saturday morning because I couldn't sleep anymore and I was in tears (literally could NOT sleep specifically on my left side) and I'm only allowed tylenyol and THAT only 6 times in a 24 hour period apparently (UGH!). Emergency root canal on Saturday (he opened the office and did it as quickly as he could). I texted him on Sunday cause the pain was back and now I'm on antibodics. a;lsdkjfalskdjfl;asjdf SO SO SO cranky moody and tired....pretty sure the bite is still wrong but it's so tender right now I'm not using that side anyway. Pretty sure that the nerve just got tired of fighting the bad bite and then just wouldn't settle down completely and once that's happened it's hooped. WOULD LOVE SOME ADVIL THOUGH! ugh!

.....on the upside during my moments of clarity I found this thread an interesting read. I have a lot of diabeties in my family and thyroid issues (I was pre-diabetic and on metformin before IP). 65X65 I envy your background and dedication to tracking everything with your medical team. It has never been confirmed technically but my doc agrees that I am insulin resistant just due to all my history. I was never good at sticking to something like you were to show a doctor how well I was doing (I could not do THAT well for THAT long)
Ishbel...you poor baby! I hope you get some sleep and relief soon. Dental stuff to me is the worst...I have such a phobia....and literally passed out in the chair when I was preggers with my youngest baby..(many many eons ago...!!!) He had to call my husband to come get me and post poned the work until after I delivered...guess I was not his idea of IP...IDEAL PATIENT!!!

Feel better...and take care of yourself. Pregnancy/nursing both are notorious for sapping calcium ...not good for bones...or dental situations. Hope you get to a good place...(pain free) SOON.

mars735
01-20-2014, 03:30 PM
Today I opened my last bottle of WF dressing. Down to just 1 box of IP product (BBQ soynuts), and 2 Mio peach mango flavorings. My P4 journey this far has been one of extremes--at first, back in Sept, I walked such a tightrope that I could barely stop losing weight. I was so perfect that it didn't feel like "Me." Then came the holidays and, in a nutshell, I gained 12 lbs. With the help of 3FC, I'm back to ideal weight. My experience taught me a few things: aside from my new clothes feeling a bit snug, all the pounds didn't magically return. I've learned to have a plan to avoid the mindlessly enabling "enjoy the holiday foods" mode next time. Mostly, I have a better sense of being in control of how I eat, not so reliant anymore on the structure of P1. It's there if needed, but for now I am going to feed my body when it's hungry, with wonderful foods that I can mostly make. Many thanks to all of you 3FCers for posting your thoughts suggestions support recipes, etc. It's great to walk with you all!

dak1lls
01-20-2014, 04:34 PM
I had a similar experience over the holidays, giving in to old habits, etc. "Mindless Eating" is certainly a good way to describe it. It is definitely a continuing effort to remain focused on good eating and good health. I used to always look at diets as having an end, and in the back of my mind I always looked forward to when I could eat anything again. Clearly a recipe for failure! This time feels so different. I have learned so much about my relationship with food in the past. No more! I think of that old Nina Simone song, "It's a new dawn, it's a new day....and I'm feeling good!"

FitMom02
01-20-2014, 10:53 PM
Ishbel...so sorry to hear about your dental pain. How difficult for you...I'll be thinking of you. Just focus on that healthy baby!! :hug:

Mars & Dak...I can so relate. On other diets, I had the same issues. This time through, I made sure that I wouldn't be so tempted by just phasing off over the holidays. At least you knew how to correct the gain quickly...kudos to you for losing the gain!!

Maile...thanks so much for your support. Yep, that 1 lb gain was gone 2 days later with no changes in my eating. I just need to stop freaking out so much & just enjoy feeling so good!!

I still haven't had a "cheat day" yet, and don't really want one. Like you've said above I just want to eat the healthy stuff! :D

sarita75
01-21-2014, 03:21 PM
I have enjoyed my cheat days, honestly. But I like the reset day too. Reminds me of all the good food I like to eat. :)

FitMom02
01-21-2014, 11:14 PM
I have enjoyed my cheat days, honestly. But I like the reset day too. Reminds me of all the good food I like to eat. :)

Do you just have a really relaxed day for your cheat day? I hope to take that approach after my blood test next week. I wonder if this cheat day is important to keep that metabolism humming along...

Maile
01-23-2014, 09:28 AM
Fitmom: I am glad that you are back at goal weight and good luck with your blood work. There are mixed views on fun days, but it was part of the IP plan. I do not do them.

Sarita: Cheat days seem to work well for you. The re-set is the helpful tool of IP.

Dak1ll and Mars: I think that is the best tool of IP. In maintenance you can get up pounds, but that does not mean that you need or will gain all of your weight back. IP gives you a P1 tool to work on up pounds so you can keep maintaining.

Mars: Thanks for your support. My husband was happy not to have to go back and edit!

Ishbel: I am so sorry about your dental pain..plus not being able to use medications (advil) due to pregnancy is so hard. I really hope you are feeling better.

65x65: Thanks for your support. You are right..that was a scale victory as I was accepting the new weight that I am now as being stable.

Julian's bakery online has a new pale wrap. It is made from coconut meat and coconut water. It has good reviews and 2 net carbs and 70 calories. I am going to try it.

mars735
01-23-2014, 11:33 AM
2nd try for a Mio-free day. Yesterday forgot to drink any water at all until evening & then used Mio to chug down 4 glasses. Every time I skip my water, I feel hungry all day and yesterday was no exception.

I'm trying different oils to mix things up. The roasted nut oils are incredible! Roasted peanut oil tastes like peanut butter. Walnut & pistachio are just decadent. I'm not sure how these measure up for essential fatty acids and omegas but they are a nice indulgence. I've been using La Tourangelle brand, and keeping them in the fridge to preserve flavor.

dak1lls
01-23-2014, 03:42 PM
mars: I notice I am more lax about my water consumption on maintenance and really have to mentally make a plan to drink more. I was never a big water drinker before IP so it was always a struggle for me to drink enough. I did develop a taste for it though and found that the flavored drinks seem too sweet to me. That's the nice thing about MIO though, you can add just enough for your taste.

Ishbel: I hope you're feeling better. I had a crown put on a while ago and not long afterwards I ended up with the most excruciating pain. I was away on business and had nothing to take but Tylenol. It did nothing! I have a bite splint for my TMJ and ironically that seemed to relieve some pain by keeping my teeth from touching until I could get to the dentist. I ended up needing a root canal in that same tooth. I was kind of mad that they had to drill through my brand new crown, since they are soooo expensive. lol. Then, I ended up with an infection because the antibiotic he prescribed was something that didn't work for me. It was a long process. I feel so bad that you are pregnant and suffering with this! Dental pain can be the worst!

bubbleblower
01-23-2014, 05:38 PM
Interesting reading about autoimmune issues/gluten/thyroid, etc. I have a number of autoimmune issues (celiac, Crohn's, Reynaud's) and am also hypothyroid. When I saw my endocrinologist last week she mentioned that frequently her hypothyroid patients turned out to have Celiac Disease, and then went on to say it really wasn't surprising since they're both on the same gene. I hadn't been aware of that. In any event, I definitely feel much better now that I'm gluten free and keep my carbs pretty low overall. I do love my half of an Udi's Mighty Bagel in the morning though!! Even if I had a choice, I'd never go back to a regular bagel!

65X65
01-23-2014, 06:01 PM
Interesting reading about autoimmune issues/gluten/thyroid, etc. I have a number of autoimmune issues (celiac, Crohn's, Reynaud's) and am also hypothyroid. When I saw my endocrinologist last week she mentioned that frequently her hypothyroid patients turned out to have Celiac Disease, and then went on to say it really wasn't surprising since they're both on the same gene. I hadn't been aware of that. In any event, I definitely feel much better now that I'm gluten free and keep my carbs pretty low overall. I do love my half of an Udi's Mighty Bagel in the morning though!! Even if I had a choice, I'd never go back to a regular bagel!

Interesting things you add here! My husband carries the genetic marker for celiac plus he has reynauds and crohns. I have hypothyroid and the family history of diabetes, thyroid and a bunch of other undesirable autoimmune things....we have kids with all of the above. Gotta love Gregor Mendel and those pea plants....

Brenda52411
01-23-2014, 08:31 PM
Congratulations Ishbel! Your wedding pictures are great!

I don't do many carbs at all and I use MFP all the time.




Hi,

What is MFP?

I'm still in P1, getting ready to start P2 next Monday (I HOPE) and trying to become mentally ready for P3 and then P4, for a lifetime!

Thank you,
Brenda

joysh
01-23-2014, 09:05 PM
Hi All!

Brenda, MFP is My Fitness Pal. It's a wonderful app and/or website which allows us to enter the foods that we eat each day. We can also enter weight progress, exercise, etc. and keep track of everything. I've been using it for a little over a year.

Mars, 65, Fitmom, and others who have been on the Reboot thread with me: It's really great how IP has given us the tools to take off this weight - and keep it off, even after a small gain. I'm also back at my goal weight, although I still want to go down 3 more pounds. I'm more relaxed about even the reboot, as I know what it takes and I know this is a long-term life plan. Yes, the pounds didn't magically return! But --- I know that I have to remain careful.

It's snowing here in central Louisiana and I can't stop smiling. They've already cancelled school for tomorrow. We'll have a few hours of snow flurries. All of you northerners: Please stay warm and safe!!!:coolsnow::snowball::snowglo::shocksn:

Maile
01-24-2014, 10:29 AM
Joysh: You guys are not used to snow down there..It is like Seattle and Portland who also are not used to the snow! My son in -4 degrees will not have a closed school.

I also hope everyone who is hit with the new storm stays warm and safe.

mars735
01-24-2014, 11:16 AM
Hi All!

Mars, 65, Fitmom, and others who have been on the Reboot thread with me: It's really great how IP has given us the tools to take off this weight - and keep it off, even after a small gain. I'm also back at my goal weight, although I still want to go down 3 more pounds. I'm more relaxed about even the reboot, as I know what it takes and I know this is a long-term life plan. Yes, the pounds didn't magically return! But --- I know that I have to remain careful.

It's snowing here in central Louisiana and I can't stop smiling. They've already cancelled school for tomorrow. We'll have a few hours of snow flurries. All of you northerners: Please stay warm and safe!!!:coolsnow::snowball::snowglo::shocksn:

Hi joysh, hope you have fun today! Hats off to you for biting the bullet and getting back to your goal. Same here with trying to get 3 more lbs off.

I think 'be careful' will be my mantra, as I found it really hard to cope with hunger pangs while getting into ketosis this time. And I had awakened the craving, binging part of me :devil:---still working on taming those urges so that I don't have to reboot too often. It's a lot more enjoyable to tackle the life eating plan & work on behavioral issues with all the weight off, is it not?:D

Thanks, Maile for recommending Brain Over Binge!:)

KLD81230
01-24-2014, 12:17 PM
Joysh: You guys are not used to snow down there..It is like Seattle and Portland who also are not used to the snow! My son in -4 degrees will not have a closed school.

I also hope everyone who is hit with the new storm stays warm and safe.

Our school in the rocky mountains of Colorado, would never think of closing school for snow or the cold... the kids have to stay inside for recess ONLY when it is below -10 (yes... 10 BELOW). :)

Maile
01-25-2014, 10:50 AM
KLDS: You guys can handle the cold weather! Our only rule is if it is in the teens or lower that the kids wearing shorts cannot go outside. Kids are still wearing shorts. I have decided that they simply do not feel the cold like I do. They do not wear coats and walk in t-shirts to come to my classes.

Hoep your maintenance is going well.

mars735
01-25-2014, 11:49 AM
I am having a tough time getting my water in without Mio, though I use less than before. And, I broke down and ordered some WF Thick n Spicy BBQ sauce. Vitacost delivered it the next day (!) and I wanted to celebrate. I think for now I'll just taper my "methadone" and try to fully kick the habit once I'm more stabilized with protein, carbs, and fats.

So, today my pledge is to enjoy a fun day that consists of a generous helping of rutabaga fries and forego the binge-triggering foods.

I'm interested :listen: to hear from other IP maintainers with opinions about or experience with eliminating sucralose from their diet. Thanks!

DRegan
01-25-2014, 08:45 PM
I am having a tough time getting my water in without Mio, though I use less than before. And, I broke down and ordered some WF Thick n Spicy BBQ sauce. Vitacost delivered it the next day (!) and I wanted to celebrate. I think for now I'll just taper my "methadone" and try to fully kick the habit once I'm more stabilized with protein, carbs, and fats.

So, today my pledge is to enjoy a fun day that consists of a generous helping of rutabaga fries and forego the binge-triggering foods.

I'm interested :listen: to hear from other IP maintainers with opinions about or experience with eliminating sucralose from their diet. Thanks!


Hi,
I put slices of lemon and limes in my water. Gave up the Mio last summer.
Also enjoy herbal teas, especially this cold winter!!!
I still have a few pieces of orbit gum a day which I'm trying to stop! Hard though!
I am like 90+% following paleo for my maintenance! working really good for me, just gotta have my gum, urrgh! Lol!!! Red wine here and there too, :)
But skip my fruit on those days, keeps the sugar/carbs down.
Step by step, one day at a time!

You can do it!!:hug:

D:)

patns
01-25-2014, 11:14 PM
Maile; had to smile at your shorts comment. It can be way below freezing and some kids still think it is a good idea to wear shorts. Out here on the western prairies schools never close but when it gets to -50C (-59F) the buses don't run. Fortunately the temps don't go down that low most years.

mars735
01-26-2014, 12:16 AM
Hi,
I put slices of lemon and limes in my water. Gave up the Mio last summer.
Also enjoy herbal teas, especially this cold winter!!!
I still have a few pieces of orbit gum a day which I'm trying to stop! Hard though!
I am like 90+% following paleo for my maintenance! working really good for me, just gotta have my gum, urrgh! Lol!!! Red wine here and there too, :)
But skip my fruit on those days, keeps the sugar/carbs down.
Step by step, one day at a time!

You can do it!!:hug:

D:)

Thanks for the very helpful suggestions and encouragement, D! Today was the first Saturday since starting P4 in Sept that wasn't an over-the-top fun day. I indulged some, but it was all healthy -- extra Whey protein shake, extra veggie stuffed tofu wraps & chicken.

I'm curious to know why you would think of giving up gum? it sounds like you are maintaining really well.:cheer:

DRegan
01-26-2014, 03:15 PM
Hi mars735,
I guess I just want as much of the fake sweetner out of my diet as possible.
But it does help if I'm having a craving, so I'll most likely still have a few
Pieces here and there, lol! unless I find gum sweetened with raw honey, lol!

D:)

mars735
01-26-2014, 08:11 PM
DRegan, I'm with you re wanting the artificials out of my diet! I'm trying out the gradual approach instead of lurching back and forth. Pre-diet, I used unsweetened almond milk in my coffee, but on P1 used the vanilla shake. I'm finding it easier to add in a little more unsweetened almond milk to the shake each week. It's helped with Mio too--I've cut back instead of cold turkey and it's a lot easier. Honey-sweetened gum---you might have the next great idea there! :idea:

Maile
01-27-2014, 09:18 AM
I admit to using the WF syrup in the morning. One habit I would like to get rid of, but have not as yet. Generally that is the only artificial sweetener I use for the day..except once in awhile a WF salad dressing.

Mars: That unsweetened almond milk is good, but definitely not sweet. I think it is great that you are trying to remove sucralose.

Patns: That is amusing that your schools rarely close and that kids are still wearing shorts. My son is having his first Chicago winter and is freezing. He says it is much colder than the Northwest winters.

dregan: That may be a good idea to cut back on fruit on the wine days..I had not thought of that.

65X65
01-27-2014, 10:20 AM
dregan: That may be a good idea to cut back on fruit on the wine days..I had not thought of that.

I agree Maile...I have been really limiting even 1 glass of wine in restaurants on a lot of occasions just because I don't want to open a door that has been closed...but TRADING...:cool: ...Now that is sensible...and the research does indicate a few glasses a week are beneficial.

Thanks DRegan for sharing that. There are only about 4 carbs in a glass of red wine if I remember correctly...so that would work by counting that in...it's made from grapes and has resveratrol/re: positive cardioprotective affects... AND 1 glass is not considered problematic......right?

....SO it could be the fruit on a "special" day...just not every day!

dak1lls
01-27-2014, 02:06 PM
Oh how I miss wine! Before starting IP I suffered with severe migraines and wine seemed to be one of my triggers. Since beginning IP I have virtually eliminated migraines. I was down with a pretty bad one I think only once since last May 13th. My strong belief is that I had massive inflammation that triggered migraines. I also think the amount of processed foods I was eating, which includes so many chemicals, preservatives, etc...were at the root of my headaches. I have been extremely fearful of having wine and have only tried once. I did pretty well, but just don't want to tempt fate. eek. I'm a scaredy cat. :)

It has been terribly cold here this winter. While January and February are generally our coldest months it has been colder than normal. Yesterday was such a blizzard and high winds that most of the state was under a "no travel" advisory. The main interstate and state highways were actually closed over the majority of the state. While we don't usually close schools even at minus 50, we also don't run buses during those times as well. I agree that the kids don't seem to be as affected by the cold. As I get older I seem to be bothered by it more & more. Now that I have lost weight I seem to get chilled more often. It is a welcome change from the hot flashes though!

sarita75
01-27-2014, 02:35 PM
Just chiming in to say hello to all you lovely peeps! Dak1lls - how it warms up for you soon! SF has been lovely all winter (oddly, so) but that's what you get from a drought. It has messed up our winter completely, no snowboarding really, and - truth be told - I miss the changing seasons a lot. It is meant to rain this Thursday so I am looking forward to that.

In news, I am considering signing up for a 1/2 Ironman/woman triathlon in October. It will require swimming 1.2 miles, cycling 56 miles and running 13.1 miles. I am scared to death to actually sign up though! I have done up to olympic distance prior to IP (.9 mile swim, 25 mile bike, 6.2 mile run), so this would be a bit longer. :) The event is in October and in my mother's hometown in Wilmington, NC and I would love to be cheered on by my family. We shall see though. Any encouragement would be appreciated!

dak1lls
01-27-2014, 03:31 PM
Just chiming in to say hello to all you lovely peeps! Dak1lls - how it warms up for you soon! SF has been lovely all winter (oddly, so) but that's what you get from a drought. It has messed up our winter completely, no snowboarding really, and - truth be told - I miss the changing seasons a lot. It is meant to rain this Thursday so I am looking forward to that.

In news, I am considering signing up for a 1/2 Ironman/woman triathlon in October. It will require swimming 1.2 miles, cycling 56 miles and running 13.1 miles. I am scared to death to actually sign up though! I have done up to olympic distance prior to IP (.9 mile swim, 25 mile bike, 6.2 mile run), so this would be a bit longer. :) The event is in October and in my mother's hometown in Wilmington, NC and I would love to be cheered on by my family. We shall see though. Any encouragement would be appreciated!

Oh my....as usual you amaze me! You can totally do this! What an inspiration you are to me.

Maile
01-28-2014, 10:17 AM
Sarita: Go for it. We will cheer you on. You are amazing. Do you have a plan for getting in condition to double your running and biking miles? You are a great inspiration to all of us!
Dak1lls: You have all of my sympathy. I have been hearing about the minus temps and blizzards in North Dakota. I also find that I get colder now that I have lost weight. Thank goodness for layering. I hope that storm passes. I am glad your migraines are better.

65x65: You right..one l glass can be beneficial and not everyday! I am going to make an exception on Superbowl Sunday and have two.

Ishbel
01-28-2014, 10:22 AM
Hey Hey Everyone,

Thanks for all the sympathy. It actually made me feel really good when I read it. I was crying quite a bit (mostly to my mom lol) and I'm relatively back to normal. Today is the last day of antibodics and I can chew gum on that side but only for a few chews. (ha!) It's not done yet though, he only put in medication and I'm back in Feb for the second part. Then a crown after that. I hope to delay the crown until after the baby is born though not sure I should delay the second part because the tooth is weak without proper reinforcement in it.

I'm really digging my fitbit, it really gets me moving to do more if I only have 5 or 7K steps at the end of the day. I don't feel that my minor walking is doing anything for weight maintenance (LOL) but I do feel more in control of my body if I exercise and bonus baby enjoys it as the little nugget moves more right after I'm done 30-60 minutes. It was tough not doing anything when I had tooth pain but 'meh whateva'.

sarita75 That sounds like an awesome challenge!

dregan Good switch with declining fruit for the wine when you have wine. I don't drink very much and I'm allergic to sulphates and well I don't like wine enough to go looking for the sulphate free versions. I do miss my grey goose pear vodka though. Not a lot but miss it when we're out for a supper.

mars I stopped MiO but more because it didn't interest me anymore. I was addicted ADDICTED to lemons in my water! So much so that I realized it probably wasn't helping with acidity in my body and tooth sensitivity. You can get aromatherapy drops that are safe (not for prego ladies) to ingest (just make sure they are safe to ingest!). I used a lot of grapefruit oil in my water during my Phase 1. It's just the oil so it's more a 'fragrant' option but it works for a change. Also, you can get the water infusers at superstore (so I'm told, haven't looked yet) and put some cucumbers or fruit in your water to give it a taste. Just some options, I was drinking a lot of decaf tea for a while there as I was bored of water.

joysh Way to go on your reboot! YAY YOU!!

Have a great day ladies!

sarita75
01-29-2014, 04:35 PM
Oh my....as usual you amaze me! You can totally do this! What an inspiration you are to me.

Sarita: Go for it. We will cheer you on. You are amazing. Do you have a plan for getting in condition to double your running and biking miles? You are a great inspiration to all of us!

I did it! All signed up. 10/25/14 I will be acting a fool and doing a 1/2 Ironman/woman. Woot! As the date approaches I will give you all my race information so you can track online, if you want. As for the plan, I am going to use a coach-made book. I need to get back into the pool and get on my bike. Should be a journey!

Thanks for all the sympathy. It actually made me feel really good when I read it. I was crying quite a bit (mostly to my mom lol) and I'm relatively back to normal. Today is the last day of antibodics and I can chew gum on that side but only for a few chews. (ha!) It's not done yet though, he only put in medication and I'm back in Feb for the second part. Then a crown after that. I hope to delay the crown until after the baby is born though not sure I should delay the second part because the tooth is weak without proper reinforcement in it. Huhya! Feel better soon. Between pregnancy and tooth issues - that's a lot. Be strong and, when you aren't, it is good to know you have your mom and ... us! :)

mars735
01-29-2014, 04:52 PM
Maile & Ishbel, thanks so much the tips and encouragement to give up sucralose. I used to joke about getting hooked on it during P1 and now I think it's real. (Still better than carb-addiction and an extra 100lbs)!

Ishbel, I hope you are continuing to get a little relief--can't even imagine what that feels like. Sounds like you are doing great even so, and good to hear your little nugget is liking your workouts!

sarita: I'm both inspired and excited for you. I look forward to following your progress to the big day. What a great way to enjoy your new, healthier body!

Maile
01-31-2014, 10:23 AM
Sarita: Go for it. That is great that you signed up! That shows a belief in yourself.

Ishbel:I am glad you are feeling better. If you get a crown are you going to be able to use all of the painkillers? Your fitbit sounds like a good motivator. I have ordered a foot pedometer with wireless tracking. That should get us moving. You sound like you are doing well and the arrival is getting closer!

Mars: I feel the same way..ideally I would get rid of sucralose, but it is better than sugar and being overweight!

DRegan
02-02-2014, 12:13 AM
Sarita: Go for it. That is great that you signed up! That shows a belief in yourself.

Ishbel:I am glad you are feeling better. If you get a crown are you going to be able to use all of the painkillers? Your fitbit sounds like a good motivator. I have ordered a foot pedometer with wireless tracking. That should get us moving. You sound like you are doing well and the arrival is getting closer!

Mars: I feel the same way..ideally I would get rid of sucralose, but it is better than sugar and being overweight!

LIKE to all! Lol!

So what's everyone up to for Super Bowl? Any parties!
We go to our neighbors annual every year, usually a nice time.
Lots of temptations though! Ugh!
I decided to bring a Cajun shrimp app and a paleo banana nut bread!
This way I'm sure to have something good without going out of control!
I will have a wine or two with my ladies! We tend to chat thru the game, stop for
the commercials and halftime. We're Patriot fans so not so into the game this
year. Have family in Seattle though so I guess I should support them, :)

Well have fun if your attending any parties, just stay in control! We worked so
hard to get here!! :hug:

D;)

FitMom02
02-02-2014, 01:36 AM
Happy February!!

Sarita...you go girl!! What an awesome goal to train for. Are you working with a trainer?

DRegan...no major plans here. My daughter has volleyball league until 8pm...so that takes care of that! Maybe we'll tape the game so we can fast forward to watch the commercials! :-)

I'm actually thinking about doing my first fun day tomorrow. I haven't done one yet. I'm not really craving anything, so don't know what to indulge in. Maybe I'll just add 500 extra calories (following the fat/carb separation rules) to see how my body reacts. We'll see...

Hiker88
02-02-2014, 09:46 AM
Oh how I miss wine! Before starting IP I suffered with severe migraines and wine seemed to be one of my triggers. Since beginning IP I have virtually eliminated migraines. I was down with a pretty bad one I think only once since last May 13th. My strong belief is that I had massive inflammation that triggered migraines. I also think the amount of processed foods I was eating, which includes so many chemicals, preservatives, etc...were at the root of my headaches. I have been extremely fearful of having wine and have only tried once. I did pretty well, but just don't want to tempt fate. eek. I'm a scaredy cat. :)



daks my mom suffers from terrible migraines but thinks its the sulfites. She occasionally has a glass of more natural wine that is lower in sulfites and she seems to get away without a migraine.

Maile
02-02-2014, 09:49 AM
dregan: Good reminder to stay sensible. We are having people to dinner so I cooked twice baked cauliflower and feta mint red cabbage. Thus i will have low carb options and will avoid the ribs. I am in Wa so everyone is SeaHawk crazy over here.

Fitmom: Once again we will see those expensive commercials on the Super Bowl!
If I indulge, I try to find something that I really like. Hope your daughter's volleyball game goes well.

65X65
02-02-2014, 10:19 AM
Oh how I miss wine! Before starting IP I suffered with severe migraines and wine seemed to be one of my triggers. Since beginning IP I have virtually eliminated migraines. I was down with a pretty bad one I think only once since last May 13th. My strong belief is that I had massive inflammation that triggered migraines. I also think the amount of processed foods I was eating, which includes so many chemicals, preservatives, etc...were at the root of my headaches. I have been extremely fearful of having wine and have only tried once. I did pretty well, but just don't want to tempt fate. eek. I'm a scaredy cat. :)

It has been terribly cold here this winter. While January and February are generally our coldest months it has been colder than normal. Yesterday was such a blizzard and high winds that most of the state was under a "no travel" advisory. The main interstate and state highways were actually closed over the majority of the state. While we don't usually close schools even at minus 50, we also don't run buses during those times as well. I agree that the kids don't seem to be as affected by the cold. As I get older I seem to be bothered by it more & more. Now that I have lost weight I seem to get chilled more often. It is a welcome change from the hot flashes though!


Daks ..I agree about the wine..but actually finding now I missed the "social" partaking more than how it made me feel...I am happy with a few sips for taste with the right food at dinner or a glass initially at a social event......but actually think I'm glad to have eliminated the headaches AND the extra calories...I have not really had more than 2 glasses at 1 event and it was part of a very long evening, and ended up handing off both glasses unfinished to hubby. We had wine at a special restaurant for dinner Thursday night to celebrate nailing some very complicated vacation plans and schedules...and actually had way less than a celebration would normally have entailed in the past!!! Have decided for me this is a good thing...and I'll take it! Really did not expect my mindset would get re-set...along with my metabolism.

Now if that could happen with chocolate....

mars735
02-02-2014, 10:49 AM
dregan: Good reminder to stay sensible. We are having people to dinner so I cooked twice baked cauliflower and feta mint red cabbage. Thus i will have low carb options and will avoid the ribs. I am in Wa so everyone is SeaHawk crazy over here.

That sounds delicious, Maile! And won't make you sluggish & hungover like the ribs probably would. (Ribs are one of my many triggers :)).

joysh
02-03-2014, 02:38 AM
dregan: Good reminder to stay sensible. We are having people to dinner so I cooked twice baked cauliflower and feta mint red cabbage. Thus i will have low carb options and will avoid the ribs. I am in Wa so everyone is SeaHawk crazy over here.

Fitmom: Once again we will see those expensive commercials on the Super Bowl!
If I indulge, I try to find something that I really like. Hope your daughter's volleyball game goes well.

Can I have the recipe for twice baked cauliflower? That sounds yummy!

sarita75
02-03-2014, 06:03 PM
Hi everyone. Yesterday was a good and bad day. The good, first. Always best. I ran a 5k in 26 minutes 20 seconds. I placed 113th overall (out of about 1600 runners) and 16th in my gender/age division (females, 20-39 years old). I was really happy about it.

When I got home from the race, I was hanging out with the boyfriend and his child (11 year old boy). There was an issue with the boy's schooling and his behavior and my boyfriend and his son's mother were dealing with it via telephone, conversations, etc. I don't know, I felt out of place, awkward. I wanted to leave (it wasn't angry or anything, just tense), but knew that wasn't the right thing to do. Unable to "figure it out" for myself, I ate chocolate, and too much of it. It was meant to be my reset day after Saturday's fun day, so I cheated.

I didn't cheat on P1-P3. This is, really, my first cheat. I am resetting today, but have such a huge amount of disappointment in myself. I spoke to my boyfriend about it, and a number of things that have been bothering me (just kind of bubbling under the surface), so things feel better, but I can't shake the disappointment. Going to go for a run later this evening and try to leave it on the pavement behind me.

Anyhow, as I always said, onwards and up/downwards ....

DRegan
02-03-2014, 09:05 PM
Sarita,

Don't be so hard on yourself! Look at all you've accomplished,
Congrats!!!!, by the way.

We're only human, brush off and move on, you've probably already burned
off the calories on your run. You got this! Just feeling that way will keep
You from doing it again any time soon. Obviously you were a little stressed by the situation. :dizzy:

Take care :hug:

D:)

FitMom02
02-04-2014, 12:57 AM
Sarita...

WAY TO GO on that run!!! You should be very proud of yourself! You said that yesterday was your free day, you had some chocolate...you're now doing a P1 day. You will be ok! :)

FitMom02
02-04-2014, 12:59 AM
Can I have the recipe for twice baked cauliflower? That sounds yummy!

That does sound delish!! I'd love that recipe, too!

Maile
02-04-2014, 08:48 AM
Sarita:It sounds like a hard situation. We have all been there and returned to P1 to get back on track. I am glad you were able to talk to your boyfriend. Hope you are feeling better.. Hugs.

Fitmom and Joysh: You can find the recipe on Kayln's Kitchen Food Blog..then look up twice baked cauliflower. It is a people pleaser. I use mozarella on the top and use turkey bacon..or make half without the bacon. She has some good low carb recipes. Here it is: www.kalynskitchen.com/

Mars735: I did have two small ribs..my husband has discovered that slow cooking is better, That will be the last ribs for awhile..they were delicious.

Dregan: I hope you enjoyed your SB party. Now on to basketball.

65x65: That is a healthy change that you have made..limiting yourself to one or two glasses of wine. That is the recommended amount.

mars735
02-04-2014, 09:02 AM
maile, I've gotta hand it to you with having just 2 ribs. Thanks for the link to kaylnskitchen.

Sarita, hope you are feeling better today. Thank-you for sharing your experience, both the problem and the way you handled it. It helps everyone to know we aren't alone. The cumulative experience of occasional slippage and correction makes us all stronger than perfection, imho. Looking forward to hearing more about your training.

65X65
02-04-2014, 10:07 AM
Hi everyone. Yesterday was a good and bad day. The good, first. Always best. I ran a 5k in 26 minutes 20 seconds. I placed 113th overall (out of about 1600 runners) and 16th in my gender/age division (females, 20-39 years old). I was really happy about it.

When I got home from the race, I was hanging out with the boyfriend and his child (11 year old boy). There was an issue with the boy's schooling and his behavior and my boyfriend and his son's mother were dealing with it via telephone, conversations, etc. I don't know, I felt out of place, awkward. I wanted to leave (it wasn't angry or anything, just tense), but knew that wasn't the right thing to do. Unable to "figure it out" for myself, I ate chocolate, and too much of it. It was meant to be my reset day after Saturday's fun day, so I cheated.

Sarita- agree with the troops here..don't be so hard on you! It is something that your body probably is able to handle...once in a while. And we are not were not meant to give up everything forever.
First of all..I bet your cheat day is pretty darn good compared to someone who has not been trying to reset the mind and body after almost a year of intense food modification! Some people will need to have wine a little more...some chocolate...others pizza. The thing is you KNOW you can't always do it. That's what maintenance is all about. Figuring out how to maintain for YOU! You're young...and active...and your body can do the occasional "off the beaten track thing" now that you are where you want to be. Keep the conscience about that...BUT ditch the over the top guilt and turn it into a reality check! That will make you crazy and it does not appear you need to do that to yourself!!! And keep on with your running!! AWESOME!!!

I didn't cheat on P1-P3. This is, really, my first cheat. I am resetting today, but have such a huge amount of disappointment in myself. I spoke to my boyfriend about it, and a number of things that have been bothering me (just kind of bubbling under the surface), so things feel better, but I can't shake the disappointment. Going to go for a run later this evening and try to leave it on the pavement behind me.

Anyhow, as I always said, onwards and up/downwards ....

Most often there are underlying things that affect how we react to a situation. Good bad or not at all. Rarely is there direct cause and effect for behavior, knowing triggers are something we learn about ourselves with time. It's all just human nature...if you can figure out what makes the clock tick in a productive way..that will help. But do remember you are an inspiration to so many on here. In spite of what you do or don't work out. don't lose sight of that. Keep it on your dashboard!!

FitMom02
02-04-2014, 11:43 AM
Most often there are underlying things that affect how we react to a situation. Good bad or not at all. Rarely is there direct cause and effect for behavior, knowing triggers are something we learn about ourselves with time. It's all just human nature...if you can figure out what makes the clock tick in a productive way..that will help. But do remember you are an inspiration to so many on here. In spite of what you do or don't work out. don't lose sight of that. Keep it on your dashboard!!

Well said!! Now where is our "like" button?

bubbleblower
02-04-2014, 02:20 PM
I just wanted to stop in to say hi and see how everyone is doing. All is going well here, and I'm still under goal although I have to say I've added in more red wine to my diet than I think most of you have. I still go easy on carbs, and they're the first thing to go if my weight creeps up at all.

Hard to believe that at this time last year I was still working on getting to goal, although it was finally hitting me that it was actually within reach. :)

sarita75
02-04-2014, 02:21 PM
Good morning all. Thank you for all your support yesterday. It was hard doing P1 yesterday again, but I got through it with tons and tons of salad and a 6 mile run. LOL. I am starving today (unsurprisingly given the run), but am glad that I stuck out P1 to reset. It was a wake-up call that I need to sort out the emotional aspects of my diet and eating habits and, rather than to engage in such behaviors, figure out a way to get some distance from the triggers. Walk away from the chocolate, needless to say. Get far, far away from it. :)

Onwards and upwards!
Hugs to each of you for your support.

Susiecanuck
02-05-2014, 08:33 AM
Hi all
I have been doing IP since July 15,2013 and have lost 46 pounds, now finished first week of phase 2. I am feeling anxious about expanding my intake as don't want to awaken old cravings. So great to read of your successes on maintenance, gives me more confidence. Hope to learn from all of your experiences as I go forward. Thanks for sharing!

DRegan
02-05-2014, 09:11 AM
Hi all
I have been doing IP since July 15,2013 and have lost 46 pounds, now finished first week of phase 2. I am feeling anxious about expanding my intake as don't want to awaken old cravings. So great to read of your successes on maintenance, gives me more confidence. Hope to learn from all of your experiences as I go forward. Thanks for sharing!

Congrats!! :carrot:
How awesome!

Just take baby steps and for me going thru all the phases was
important, still lost on phases 2&3.

Keep up the great work, and come here and ask all these awesome people
anything you need to know! :hug:

D;)

Maile
02-05-2014, 10:16 AM
Welcome Susiecanuck: That is a great loss. I agree with dRegean..follow the phases and take small steps in adding back food.

Sarita: going back to P1 is hard but doable. Those breakfasts are hard to give up. Hope your P1 is going well this week! I stay far away from triggers.

Bubbleblower: It was good to hear from you. That is great that you have kept your weight off for a year! I like wine also!

65x65 and fitmom: I agree. Learning about the triggers in our lives is so important...food or emotions.

Lulu64
02-05-2014, 10:23 PM
I have been on stage 4 for about a month now. My weight has gone up about 5 lbs. My coach said I'm not eating enough food, she said I have slowed my metabolism down but she just tells me to eat more food. I know I'm probably not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I need specifics. I eat the big breakfast, lunch I have chicken and veggies, dinner is meat veggies, sometimes whole wheat bread with almond butter. I really need menu's for lunch and dinner. I'm walking a mile every day trying to get some exercise in. Oh by the way I'm 65 yes old. I need a little more help than what my coach is giving me.

sarita75
02-06-2014, 12:52 PM
Lulu64:

I think you might be going about P4 a little wrong. According to what I have been told, you should keep fats, no grain carbs, with one non-breakfast meal, like lunch, and carbs, limited fats, with the other non-breakfast meal, like dinner. Fats @ dinner would be very limited, like 1 tsp of oil. Having almond butter (oil) w/ toast (carbs) would likely be a no-no due to the oil in the almond butter. I generally find myself doing the following:

- big breakfast (0% greek yogurt, 1/3 c. fruit (in the yogurt), lower-carb bread with almond butter, and some meat (about 2 oz, generally turkey pastrami)
- lunch: salad with grilled meats and salad dressing. Sometimes I will do a veggie plate with deli meats and string cheese.
- dinner: sometimes meat and pasta with tomato sauce (watching the oils), sometimes rice and a meat/veggie stirfry (light oil), sometimes meat/veggies only (forgoing the carbs/grains). If I need carbs, sometimes I will make a 1/2 sandwich with some mustard, veggies and deli meats. Sometimes I will have some cream of wheat with WF Pancake Syrup.

Hope this helps a little bit!

Lulu64
02-06-2014, 02:59 PM
My coach has kind of left me in the dust. It is kind of crazy to come this far and not be able to keep it up. I have lost 70 pounds that I never want to see again, I get kind of emotional when I think I might fail.:(