Living Maintenance - Maintainers Weekly Chat November 18 - November 25




BillBlueEyes
11-18-2013, 05:47 AM
Celebrating the last week before Thanksgiving week. It's a long way away and I'm already worrying about stuffing - both the noun and the verb.

I've decided that the failure to be notified about winning my Ford Hybrid was a blessing; now I want a Toyota Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicle just a soon as it becomes available. Such neat technology; who cares if there aren't any hydrogen stations yet.

Sending supportive thoughts, Jen, as you process the loss of your kitty. Yes, I'd include her in the Christmas card.


Mudpie
11-18-2013, 05:57 AM
Good morning!

We went to see an exhibit of David Bowie memorabilia yesterday at the Art Gallery of Ontario (AGO). I found it most interesting as I used to be a fan, from early days up to and including the "Heroes" album. I don't think DH was there with me, at least not mentally or emotionally. He did complain about the headsets cutting in and out but I think that was the nature of the beast - snippets of songs to accompany various visuals.

Interesting too that the most people were gathered in rooms showing video. It seems we have become a culture that responds to a screen best.

Speaking of screens DH wants to give me a gaming system for Christmas - so that we can use Netflicks and the like. He also wants to buy a bigger screen TV.

I am resistant to both as it will encourage him to watch even more TV. This was supposed to be the "new house, new life" where we made a concentrated effort to not watch TV. If I go upstairs to read or suggest we both do so in the living room he is very resistant. SIGH.

I'm hoping his work situation is somewhat resolved today so that he will start to live again, rather than vegetating in front of the TV while numbing himself with food and alcohol. He's done that for 8 (!) years now and it's not working for him any more. I am truly afraid for him sometimes.

Dagmar :tired:

Megan1982
11-18-2013, 09:06 AM
Morning all,
I'm so happy and so tired at the same time. The show was a great success and we have wonderful, big audiences who really enjoyed the show. The cast & crew party was last night and I handed out my gifts and thank-you's. Other than having the blanks for the starter pistol for gunshot sound effects go missing, and all the photo printers in a 60 mile radius being broken, both pretty minor things, the weekend was a success. I'm looking forward to sleeping, yoga and long dog walks, and cleaning my poor house before I leave on my Thanksgiving travels in a week.

BF has been taking care of the dog a great deal. Starting today he's working 12 hour days servicing fire equipment for the next week, and now I'm back on doggie duty. That's just fine with me since I miss my fur baby and we both need some exercise. Her symptoms haven't cleared up so I brought a sample into the vet's this morning to test. This could be a good winter job for him since the charter business is dead this time of year, so we're hoping this turns into a few months of work.

I'm rather proud of myself despite business and stress I managed to lose 3 lbs during the course of this play without trying. I had a handful of days where I wasn't eating vegetables and ate out a handful of times, but overall I did a decent job of making sure I ate healthy meals. My healthy freezer burrito and leftover soup stash was much appreciated. Exercise did wane these past 2 weeks and I need to get back on track with that. I've been fitting into a few clothes that were a little snug. I feel like I'm in a much better place going into the holiday season than I have been in years.

Michele, were you able to get to the chiropractor to check your back? Let us know how your aches and pains are.

Dagmar, did DH ask you if you wanted a gaming system, or did he tell you that's what he's getting you? Because you could just say, "that's a present for you, not for me. I would like XYZ for me." BTW you can buy "smart" TVs these days that have wifi. BF bought me one for my birthday (which I did want, lol, and it didn't increase my TV watching) and we can access netflix or amazon directly. It is hard to watch someone we love be destructive towards themselves but you can't make the choice for him. :hug:

Bill, ooh, I'll start looking out for giveaways for your new car of choice.

Jen, how are you and DH doing?

Have a great week all!


saef
11-18-2013, 09:56 AM
Megan, I'm so happy that your show went off so well and you've got the memory of last night's cast & crew party to get you through Monday.

I was fuming in traffic this morning, which made me a little late for meeting two new hires in the lobby at my office this morning. I don't like leaving people clock-watching on their very first day at work. Now they're getting oriented on their new ThinkPads & I have a slight breather before I start my continuous flow of talk that's part of their training. I'll be coming in early and getting home late. Fitting in the gym will be a challenge. Fitting in anything else may not be possible -- I'm even strategizing when I'll have a minute to fill up my gas tank for all the driving I'll be doing.

And oh, yeah, there's Thanksgiving or something happening soon, right?

And Dagmar, rather than attending the parade, I'd recommend going to the Upper West Side on the night before Thanksgiving and watching the balloons get blown up. That is really more fun & the thing to do.

traveling michele
11-18-2013, 10:36 AM
Kudos on the play Megan!! And losing 3 pounds without really trying!!

My chiro apt is Wednesday afternoon. I'll report back after.

I had a nice weekend (albeit alone). I got tons done-- shopping, errands, workouts, reading, Breaking Bad, DVR catching up.... I think when my family comes home I won't know what to do with them! Dh comes home Friday (just for a week though) and both girls come home for T-Day.

Saef-- I was also grouchy this morning when Dewey woke me slightly before my 5 am alarm by puking in my bed. Why?!?!?!

alinnell
11-18-2013, 10:39 AM
We have a new hire today at work. Wow, the paperwork that goes with that!

Chico didn't want to eat his food this morning so I decided to make him a dog food sandwich. He liked that, thankfully. But the food I have for him (canned) is a bit sloppy for a sandwich so I think I'll go out and get some of the pate style canned dog food to put on a sandwich for him. I think he likes the sandwich because he thinks it's my food and he's getting a treat.

Our golf tournament that we were supposed to do this Sunday was cancelled and I'm quite thankful for that! Five or six hours at that would put me seriously behind on Thanksgiving preparations. Instead we'll do our short course Saturday morning and then I'll do my final shopping in the afternoon.

Glad the play went well, Megan!

How big a tv does DH want, Dagmar. I swear my DH keeps wanting newer, bigger, better on ours and I think we have a 65 inch! Of course it would be nice to have the LED screen as it uses so much less electricity and doesn't heat the room up like the one we have now.

It's cooling off here. We finally closed all the windows and DH lit the fire Sunday morning! The cats sure liked that.

gardenerjoy
11-18-2013, 11:18 AM
I'm back at this after a week of experimenting with the way I used to be. Yeah. I don't want to be an overeater, anymore. So many bad effects and consequences. I'm avoiding the scale right now, but I've got a food plan and I'm putting all my other routines back in place including my new habit of posting here.

CherryPie99
11-18-2013, 11:23 AM
Good Monday morning, all!

A HUGE congrats Megan on the rousing success you had!! If you're anything like me, you can expect a CRASH in the next couple of days! But then I'm sure it will feel good to get back into a normal routine!

DH is still really upset about losing Ezri. He wrote a very long tribute to her on his blog - he is a man who doesn't express himself verbally very well, but it was clear that this is effecting him even more then I knew. Yesterday I headed out on my long run - and he knew I was going for a long run. I even texted him at about 8 miles in during a *cough* pit stop to let him know that I was doing great and would see him in a while. I got home and just as I was stretching he pulled in the driveway - he had gotten worried and was out looking for me! I think his anxiety is just up.

Speaking of my running, I did my longest run yesterday - 18.10 miles. I'm pretty proud of getting that far. But I am WIPED today.

I am looking forward to getting through this week and am excited about Thanksgiving!

Jen

Shannon in ATL
11-18-2013, 11:42 AM
I have to admit that I'm very fond of a large tv. Ours is a 65" I think? We don't really watch it all that often, but when I do watch I like to be able to see everything. But yes Dagmar, if you don't want it then it is really a gift for him and not you.

Glad the play went well, Megan! You get some rest now. Hope the job works out for BF.

Michele - it is always easier to get things done with no one else around, isn't it? I know it will be nice to have everyone home, though.

Allison - yes, a golf tournament would have probably made it hard to get your turkey day ready! I love that Chico will eat a sandwich but not his regular food. Sweet puppy.

Saef - traffic here was unpleasant as well today. I really wanted to still be on vacation.

Bill - we'll keep our eyes open for your Toyota and a hydrogen station for it.

Jen - great run!

Joy - routine is good. I'm getting back to mine this week, too.

Oh I don't want to be back here today....

alinnell
11-18-2013, 01:16 PM
Oh, dear.

Last week I read where there is a stomach virus going around the valley.

DH came out of his office about an hour ago stating he had body aches and he didn't feel good. He went home.

Just a second ago, one of our guys came back from the jobsite--aches and pains and fever. He's going home.

I wonder how many of us will come down with it? I hope I don't! I don't have time for it!

Shannon in ATL
11-18-2013, 01:41 PM
Oh no, Allison. Stay healthy!

Mudpie
11-19-2013, 05:16 AM
Nothing happened at DH's work yesterday so he was super b*tc*y when he got home. I tried to hang artwork last night and he immediately started interfering. Funny :shrug: how I got this job done at 2 other places but he has to supervise here.

I think he formed a real attachment to the house when he was working on it and now is resentful :rollpin: that I'm "imposing" my decorating ideas.

I have not uttered the words "it's MY house" and will not do so. I find if I use Bill's strategy of silence DH comes and apologizes a couple of hours later and is then very affectionate. I realize this is out of fear :eek:, not love :love:.

He's still afraid I'll throw him out. SIGH. We all still have a lot of adjusting to do.

Fortunately mine doesn't involve overeating. That is happening :devil: due to lack of sleep - I now habitually wake up at 3:30 (dang daylight savings) or so and am ready for bed at 8 p.m. Does not make for any sort of life.

Dagmar :tired:

Megan1982
11-19-2013, 08:31 AM
Happy Tuesday everyone. Yesterday I had sort of a post-play post-partum depression going on. I could have gone to a yoga class, but felt I should hang out with my poor neglected (not really) pup. I was dreading being home alone all evening. BF came home from work around 7, earlier than expected, so instead we got to spend time together in which we were actually both awake and conversating. We haven't done much of that for weeks. Emma & I also walked 3 miles, and I was able to cook up healthy lunches for the week and get 8 hours of sleep. All this normalcy feels strange...

I'm starting to get very excited for seeing my family and my nieces next week! My nieces are 3 and 1 now. My BIL just sent an adorable picture of the older niece holding younger's hand and leading her towards an airplane display at a local museum. So cute.

Emma's samples came back negative for parasites. The vet is going to try a prescription Royal Canin high fiber food for 2 weeks, that should be here in a few days. She says the next step will be steroids. From the start of her UTI this has been going for 2 months and yesterday I got really frustrated and sad worrying about my fur baby. I'm sure that contributed to my feelings of moroseness.

Dagmar, I guess with your free early morning time you could hang pictures at 3:30 AM. Then when DH wakes up, the job will be done. ;)

Allison, could you cut rounds or make little patties of the wet food and bake them a bit to remove some moisture? That might create better burger-type patties for Chico's sandwiches. Did anyone else get sick yesterday?

Jen, have you considered running a marathon? With those kind of distances I'd think you're almost ready for one. Great job on the run! Poor DH. Can you stick your cell phone anywhere in your running gear so he can call you?

Michele, that sounds like a great weekend to get caught up. Did Dewey seem ok after he threw up, or is this part of a larger illness?

Saef, did you make it through your busy day? Did your new hires seem like good additions to your office?

Gardenjoy, it still surprises me how bad my body feels when I overeat. I forget I don't like it, then I realize how puffy and gross I feel... and try to remind myself for next time. It works more now than it used to. Maintenance is about recognizing these events before they go too far. Just get right back into those healthy habits.

Have a good Tuesday everyone.

alinnell
11-19-2013, 09:28 AM
I stopped by the pet food store yesterday and bought a food recommended by someone on my Labrador chat board called My Perfect Pet. It's human grade food cooked and then frozen into patties that resemble a slice of meatloaf. Chico loved it this morning! I also have a can of tripe that everyone says smells disgusting but dogs love it.

Sorry about your post-play depression, Megan. It's pretty normal to feel that way after putting in so much work for something like that. Glad you're back to normalness though!

Dagmar~I don't know what to say. I'd be pretty miffed if my DH interfered with decorating like that.

DH is feeling "a little better" today and is off to work already. I don't think he had the same stomach virus that's been going around because everyone says it is the worst they've ever experienced and they all thought they would die. DH just had nausea and fever.

Everyone have a great day!

traveling michele
11-19-2013, 10:20 AM
I'm glad Chico likes his yummy food. I may have to venture into trying some new things for Jozi. She eats dinner most nights but refusing breakfast about half of the time.

Megan-- that is so frustrating regarding your fur baby. Poor thing. I wonder what's going on with her. I hope you figure it out soon. Dewey seemed fine yesterday but this morning at about 4:30 he started making weird noises in the bed which woke me in a panic. He seemed fine but I was up then!

Hang in there Dagmar-- literally and figuratively!

Only 3 more nights without dh.... He says that after the beginning of the year his travel should decrease for awhile. I sure hope so. My girls are getting excited about coming home-- older dd wants to watch the new Hunger Games movie with me :-)

gardenerjoy
11-19-2013, 11:16 AM
I'm excited about eating lunch out with my brother -- except that I don't know why he asked me out to lunch. Is this just because we haven't had the opportunity to talk alone for, like, a year? Or is there some big news he didn't want to tell me over the phone? Anyway, I'll know soon enough. And I've already picked out the salad I'm going to eat using the on-line menu.

Megan1982: thanks for this "Maintenance is about recognizing these events before they go too far." That's a much more positive spin than I put on my recent events and is exactly what I needed to hear.

alinnell
11-19-2013, 12:03 PM
Since I'm hosting Thanksgiving for 34 people on Thanksgiving day, the Orange County folks invite all of us to OC for another get-together on Saturday night. We don't do anything turkey related! This year they'll be doing bar-be-que (probably ribs) with corn bread and salad.

I've been asked to bring dessert. What would you suggest for 34 people (including 6 children under the age of 4) that will travel well?

Help! I need suggestions!

traveling michele
11-19-2013, 12:54 PM
Since I'm hosting Thanksgiving for 34 people on Thanksgiving day, the Orange County folks invite all of us to OC for another get-together on Saturday night. We don't do anything turkey related! This year they'll be doing bar-be-que (probably ribs) with corn bread and salad.

I've been asked to bring dessert. What would you suggest for 34 people (including 6 children under the age of 4) that will travel well?

Help! I need suggestions!

Brownies....

traveling michele
11-19-2013, 12:55 PM
I'm excited about eating lunch out with my brother -- except that I don't know why he asked me out to lunch. Is this just because we haven't had the opportunity to talk alone for, like, a year? Or is there some big news he didn't want to tell me over the phone? Anyway, I'll know soon enough. And I've already picked out the salad I'm going to eat using the on-line menu.

Megan1982: thanks for this "Maintenance is about recognizing these events before they go too far." That's a much more positive spin than I put on my recent events and is exactly what I needed to hear.

Good for you for planning ahead. Where are you going? Curious about what your brother has to say. Hopefully it's good news.

CherryPie99
11-19-2013, 02:46 PM
Allison - how about Double Doozies?

alinnell
11-19-2013, 03:47 PM
Allison - how about Double Doozies?

I had to look that up. I've never heard of them!

I think I'll do a Blueberry White Chocolate Bread Pudding. I can easily double (or triple it) and it really doesn't need to be heated to serve it. This one has no sauce on top so it'll be easy to transport. Either that or I saw a recipe for Peach Pecan Bread Pudding.

CherryPie99
11-19-2013, 03:56 PM
I was just thinking of something that could be really easily made up - but admittedly they are not terribly creative - but delicious.

If you do make the peach pecan bread pudding would you mail me a piece? Or 4 :D

alinnell
11-19-2013, 04:08 PM
If you do make the peach pecan bread pudding would you mail me a piece? Or 4

I don't think it'd mail well. LOL I can, however, show you the recipe.

Mudpie
11-19-2013, 05:31 PM
That's quite enough food porn ladies! :p

Dagmar :drool:

BillBlueEyes
11-19-2013, 06:41 PM
That's quite enough food porn ladies!

Thank you. I was pondering a trip to the local Italian bakeries in Boston's North End where cookies are sold by the pound. At about the price of butter. For good reason.

CherryPie99
11-19-2013, 07:42 PM
I don't think it'd mail well. LOL I can, however, show you the recipe.

FORTUNATELY I have no ability to bake, whatsoever! So I am safe!!

gardenerjoy
11-20-2013, 09:27 AM
For lunch yesterday, we went to a locally-owned restaurant that used to be fine dining and then it became a sports bar partly owned by Albert Pujols. Now, Pujols has left town and we're all mad at him, so it's become a blend. They've gone back to the original name but it's still a sports bar because what else are you going to call a restaurant with 40+ screens? And they've added back some of the fine-dining items on the menu. Only in St. Louis. But the food is good and it's fun! So I guess it works.

My brother did have an agenda -- one of those potentially awkward conversations where he revealed something he feared I might be judgmental about. Fortunately, I'm long past making judgments on my brother's lifestyle decisions and could honestly exhibit the attitude of "whatever makes you happy, makes me happy." So all was well and it was wonderful to spend some time with him because we rarely do that these days.

alinell: I've had good luck bringing bread pudding to events.

saef
11-20-2013, 10:10 AM
Thus far, this has been the sneeziest, most nose-running November that I can recall. Maybe it's all the mild weather we've been having. I don't know if it's moldy leaves or lingering ragweed pollen or what, exactly, is bothering me and many of my friends, but the season of allergies is feeling rather prolonged.

I get a breather today, as my two new hires are taking classes downstairs all day with recently hired analysts.

But I have writing assignments due in, so I can't just look at clothes on eBay or read online recaps of "The Walking Dead" or malinger on Facebook, as I want to do.

Tell me I'll have the willpower to downshift comfortably tonight and get to bed early. I need that, very much, to get through the remainder of the week.

Mudpie
11-20-2013, 10:13 AM
saef :dust: :D

Dagmar :coolsnow:

Megan1982
11-20-2013, 12:01 PM
Morning all,

I'm a bit tired this morning. The dog had a very restless night, which meant I had a restless night taking her out several times and worrying about her when she wouldn't settle. I'm feeling guilty for leaving her next week (BF will take care of her while I'm gone). BF keeps telling me not to worry. It's not working.

I really wanted to get back to yoga this week, but I'm thinking of skipping the available classes to get my house cleaned and work on a few projects I've been putting off. Some of BF's family may drop by the house while I'm gone, and it really is a wreck after all my play madness. I can also spend more time with the dog this way. Yes, I'm overprotective.

Yesterday I had tired/worried/PMS munchies, but I managed to eat healthy foods and not overdo it. I'm trying to keep it up and not give into overeating and going out to eat by reminding myself not only will next week be indulgent, but I'm also trying to save money since I've had several big expenses lately and the holidays are coming. I do not need (insert unhealthy food items here - trying to avoid food porn) from the burger place a block up. My banana pancake breakfast (2 eggs scrambled with a smashed banana and cinnamon, plus a glass of milk on the side) doesn't seem to hold me over like it used to.

Michele, oh no, poor Dewey! Why do they always throw up on the most inconvenient surfaces?

Joy, I'm glad your brother's news wasn't bad and you got to spend some quality time with him.

Saef, perhaps when you get home the browsing on ebay and and Walking Dead recaps will be something to look forward to in order to help you downshift this evening?

Allison, big trays of bread pudding seem like they would travel pretty well as long as they're covered. You're right, no sauce is good. I was thinking anything with frosting would be tricky.

Off to make some hot tea to follow my roasted veggies and leftover turkey burger lunch. Maybe that will help shut my stomach up.

bargoo
11-21-2013, 09:12 AM
I don't think it'd mail well. LOL I can, however, show you the recipe.

So where ,is the recipe ? Did I miss it ?

Megan1982
11-21-2013, 09:30 AM
Hello out there? Are my daily doggie updates driving all of you away? Last night only included 1 outing and the dog was much more restful, which meant I was, too. We went for a nice 3.25 mile walk in the late afternoon and I ticked a few more small chores off my "To-do before leaving town" list. Even though BF has been leaving by 7 am and getting home around 7 or 8 from his job, we still see each other more now and get to talk to each other more than in the last few previous weeks, lol, which is nice.

Funny (or sad?) pet story: Some of you remember that I'm my dog's 3rd owner. Her 1st owner was the teenage son of an acquaintance T, who live all together w T's BF. Last night on our walk I ran into the BF out walking another dog, which I heard they had gotten about a year ago. BF said "another one of son's victim's! if Emma needs a brother you can stop by and pick him up any time". :dizzy: Teenage son is now 21 but still lives w them. Why on earth would they let him get another dog??? I don't believe there is any abuse per se, just not enough time spent w dog, not enough walks, particularly in the puppy stage, which is why they gave Emma away.

My breakfast smoothies which include yogurt, milk, fruit, spinach, and most importantly 1/4 avocado and flax seed are doing a better job of filling me up until lunch. The avocado makes the texture very smooth but you don't taste it at all (1/2 avocado is even better - it's sinfully creamy). It's bordering on too cold for them but not quite. I've been doing pretty well about eating proper portions and intuitively - I'm hungry for my next meals and snacks. I'm mentally trying to condition myself for upcoming holiday challenges in that department. It will be harder to restrain myself when there are a lot more options of "exciting" food around me constantly. The good news is that my parents have an elliptical and a treadclimber and my sis has an elliptical for Christmas, so no matter how cold it is I will be able to exercise.

I'm starting to think about holiday shopping and am going to spend the upcoming holidays studying my family for clues about what they might want or need. I always feel much too rushed in December. Has anyone else started their holiday shopping or crafting?

Saef, how is your busy week at work going?

Allison, how is Chico? Any more signs of the bug going around?

Jen, how are you and your DH doing?

Hi Bill, Dagmar, Joy, Bargoo, and everyone else lurking out there!

gardenerjoy
11-21-2013, 10:00 AM
I'm still here, Megan1982. Glad to hear things are smoothing out with your dog walks. I have allergies, so no pets, but I like living vicariously through other people's pets!

I started planning for the holidays yesterday and realized I need to do some clandestine spying for gift ideas on Thanksgiving. For years, now, we've only bought gifts for the younger people in the family. But they've all grown and are getting up to ages that are more difficult to buy for or to keep track of what their interests are. Books are my favorite gift (I'm a librarian) but even that is getting harder.

alinnell
11-21-2013, 10:17 AM
So where ,is the recipe ? Did I miss it ?

Here you go! Blueberry White Chocolate Bread Pudding with Amaretto Cream Sauce (http://spicysouthernkitchen.com/blueberry-white-chocolate-bread-pudding-with-amaretto-cream-sauce/). The only problem with the recipe is it calls for fresh blueberries. I'm afraid the frozen ones might be too juicy. I wonder if I could rinse the frozen ones and use them?


Funny (or sad?) pet story: Some of you remember that I'm my dog's 3rd owner. Her 1st owner was the teenage son of an acquaintance T, who live all together w T's BF. Last night on our walk I ran into the BF out walking another dog, which I heard they had gotten about a year ago. BF said "another one of son's victim's! if Emma needs a brother you can stop by and pick him up any time". :dizzy: Teenage son is now 21 but still lives w them. Why on earth would they let him get another dog??? I don't believe there is any abuse per se, just not enough time spent w dog, not enough walks, particularly in the puppy stage, which is why they gave Emma away.

Allison, how is Chico? Any more signs of the bug going around?


Some people just don't understand the requirements of pet ownership. It is sad and it is why there are so many pets turned into shelters.

Chico is doing good now that I found something he'll eat. It's expensive but I don't think I have any alternative.

The employee who went home Monday is still out. The sister of another employee was hospitalized due to severe dehydration (she's also diabetic) from the virus. I don't think my DH actually had it (and neither does he). He thinks it was more of an anxiety attack brought on by stress. We're so completely busy that we're turning away people who call in for work to be done. DH says we're easily 4 weeks behind and there is no light at the end of the tunnel as more and more jobs keep coming in. While it's nice to be busy it is very stressful--especially on him.

ICUwishing
11-21-2013, 10:24 AM
Lurking, too. I'm having a bad week due to tangling with artificial colors on Sunday and there's not much to do except wait and flush it out. End result is also antisocialness.

DS's first major swing choir concert is Saturday night so there's been lots of driving to hours of extra practice this week. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the team is meshing. He'll have a team of 10 friends and family in the audience.

Gardenerjoy - I need a recommendation for a truly high-end, gourmet vegetarian cookbook. Ideas? I want to have a few meatless meals a week, but I am not going to be able to pull it off in my household without there being some hella flavor and eye appeal!

traveling michele
11-21-2013, 10:30 AM
Hi Megan! I love your doggy stories!

That sounds like a nasty virus Allison!
I'm not even going to look at that recipe.

I went to the chiropractor for the first time yesterday. I really liked him and what he says makes sense. He says it is sciatica which is what I figured. However, he adjusted/treated me and I'm in so much more pain now than I was. He said that could happen so I'm hoping I feel better soon. I'm not going back until Monday as they are away at a conference until then. Ouch! Not an excuse to eat, right? I did stop for a Skinny Peppermint Mocha from Starbucks because I felt sorry for myself.

Dh comes back from China TOMORROW!! Hooray!!! I was thinking of planning something for a date on Saturday. We're pretty boring-- usually go out to eat and maybe if we're feeling really exciting, we see a movie. Any good movies out there??

Megan1982
11-21-2013, 10:32 AM
Mmm, I do love bread pudding. Allison, I don't think the frozen ones would be too juicy. Bread pudding is already pretty juicy, but the longer you bake it, the firmer it becomes. I have a blueberry cake recipe that suggests if using frozen to toss the blueberries in a little bit of the flour from the recipe, but I think this is to prevent them all from settling at the bottom after you mix them into the recipe. Even though bread pudding doesn't include flour, you could try it. I would think rinsing them would add more water, unless you dried them really carefully after rinsing.

Michele, I think Allison is our resident movie expert. I think the next Hunger Games movie is coming out soon. Maybe Thanksgiving week? I have several coworkers who go to the chiro and when their backs are really bad, their stories are similar to yours. It takes a few adjustments to make the pain go away. Still, I hope it resolves itself sooner than Monday.

alinnell
11-21-2013, 10:47 AM
Michele~There are tons of good movies out there. Some of the best that will probably be nominated for Oscars are most likely still in theaters. Of course I'm going to see the new Hunger Games movie this weekend--can't wait actually! But others to consider are Gravity, All is Lost, 12 Years a Slave (hard to watch but excellent acting), Captain Phillips, and The Butler. I've heard horrible reviews on the Counselor so I doubt I'll see that. I'd like to see Blue Jasmine, but I'm sure we'll wait for it to be on pay per view--same with Last Vegas (my secretary went to see it and she said the only good thing about it was seeing such big names together).

Shannon in ATL
11-21-2013, 11:07 AM
First week back after vacation is never a lot of fun. I want to be on vacation again, please. :)

paperclippy
11-21-2013, 02:13 PM
Welcome back Shannon!

Allison, I also would have suggested brownies or cookies for dessert. I'm just lazy that way I guess. :lol: Certainly it is easy to make them for a huge crowd and they transport well at room temp.

Megan, I'm here! Sorry Emma is still having problems. I hope the vet can get her sorted out soon. I know how hard it is to worry about your fur-baby!

I'm feeling pretty apprehensive about Thanksgiving. I'm already making a list of all of the items we need to pack in the car to be at MIL's house most of the day. Diapers, wipes, clothes, bibs, burp cloths, blankets, swaddles, breast pump, bottles, booster chairs, white noise machine, etc. etc. etc. The girls need a nap for every 2 hours they're awake so they will need to nap while we're there since Thanksgiving is usually at least a 4-hour event. I'm not sure if I should pack the baby monitor or what. Also nervous about there being so many people and it being flu/RSV season. The girls have avoided getting sick so far and just had their flu shots but I'm still worried.

Our schedule is a giant mess right now. DH is also a mess :lol: . Seriously though, he has historically treated his depression with exercise, and since he's been a SAHD he hasn't been able to exercise except for walking the kids, and it's now too cold to walk them and they aren't reliably scheduled enough to be able to do it (they might start screaming halfway through). In any case he has been down in the dumps and has little patience with the babies. He's been getting progressively grouchier for at least a week, and now is at the point where I am spending extra time at home in the morning and handling almost all the nighttime wakings because he is too angry to be calm and patient with the babies. He's basically angry at them for being unpredictable, and there's nothing that can be done about that. I am going to take off work the day before Thanksgiving and basically send him out of the house to do whatever he wants all day while I watch them so he can have a break. My work has a program for free counseling sessions and I'm trying to convince him to call, but he has long been of the opinion that talk therapy is a waste of his time so I don't know that I can make any progress there. I might call myself for some advice on dealing with DH when he's like this! I offered to hire a part-time nanny to take on some of the burden but he says no. This morning when I was leaving for work I offered to stay home and he said no, then I asked if he was going to be okay and he said, "I'm going to be miserable." I offered again to stay home and he refused again. :shrug: I don't even know what to do with him right now. He did at least email me once I was at work and apologize for being so grouchy -- partly related to not having eaten his breakfast on time and he gets extra grumpy when his blood sugar is low.

alinnell
11-21-2013, 02:30 PM
Jessica~that must be frustrating. Maybe surprise him. Schedule a day off and don't tell him. And then on the day you stay home, send him off on a day of errands and stuff to keep him away for several hours. I know it's hard to do around the holidays, but maybe even a half-day will help his grouchiness.

traveling michele
11-21-2013, 02:35 PM
Jessica-- that sounds so hard with dh. Could he bring them to a gym and use their childcare? I know it isn't ideal but he would get his exercise in and give him a break as well.

Good luck with Thanksgiving too! Sounds like so much work just to get there! How far is the car ride?

silverbirch
11-21-2013, 02:36 PM
Jessica, fwiw, it is perfectly OK to go out for a walk with a screaming baby or two. They often get distracted looking at things or just go to sleep. I'm of the opinion that it's grim for them being inside all the time too. :hug: for you. You're both doing very well in an extremely demanding situation.

paperclippy
11-21-2013, 03:29 PM
:grouphug: Thanks guys. I sent him an email about it and he agreed to talk about adjusting our schedule so he can get exercise. Michele, because they're preemies we're being extremely cautious about taking them to crowded places until RSV season is over in the spring, but otherwise a gym daycare would be a great idea. MIL's house is only 15 mins away. :lol3: Good point, I could always drive back home to get something if I forget it.

Silver, it's more that they'll be happy in the stroller for a while, then once you've been out for 20 minutes one of them will freak out, start screaming, and not stop unless you pick her up. (Once being held, she will immediately calm down of course.) That would be fine with one baby, but it's hard to push a stroller with one baby in it while carrying another. DH has tried the baby carriers (to strap the baby to your chest) but he can't seem to get comfortable in them. Usually it's that she's hungry or something and the only real solution is to go home and feed her again. That's what I meant about their schedule -- it's unpredictable when they are going to be hungry and when they get hungry, they need their milk Right Now.

Allison, a surprise day off is a good idea. I need to be better about taking care of the girls on my own. When we're both home I tend to rely on him to be available to help out. They had a few bad weekends in a row where frankly I was afraid to be left alone with them because their crying was stressing me out so much. I feel like we're making progress toward doing better now though, and I've figured out how to burp one while still feeding the other which is a big help.

Megan1982
11-21-2013, 03:32 PM
My work has a program for free counseling sessions and I'm trying to convince him to call, but he has long been of the opinion that talk therapy is a waste of his time so I don't know that I can make any progress there. I might call myself for some advice on dealing with DH when he's like this! I offered to hire a part-time nanny to take on some of the burden but he says no.

Definitely call them to ask for advice about DH! You never know, they may make a great suggestion to help you cope, or for you to make to DH. If he's never tried talk therapy, how would he know if it works? Call and ask how to talk people into calling who don't believe in talk therapy. I know your DH worries about $, but if it's free, what's the risk?

I wonder if communicating these thoughts to him may be helpful or if you've already tried. I'm trying to think how you could put this is a way that doesn't seem accusatory or attacking to him. The part-time nanny seems up the alley of the sleep therapist, which seemed like it helped both of you.

Is there any sort of indoor track near you he could get access to? At a university or a Y? Maybe he could take the girls to exercise there in the winter. Like Silver says, crying happens in public.

:hug:s to you.

Mudpie
11-21-2013, 03:45 PM
Jessica Can your DH exercise while the girls are napping? And poor you, working full time, dealing with two tiny babies who have some health issues, and now you're faced with your partner in all of this possibly becoming unreliable around the babies. :hug:

Pardon me for sticking my nose in and feel free to tell me to buzz off. I would very strongly recommend the counseling for DH, and ask if maybe the babies could come along so the therapist can see first hand what his reactions to them are. I'm sure he loves them and would never, ever harm them but it's best to be absolutely sure. Sometimes parents reach breaking points, no matter how much they care about their kids.

Dagmar :dizzy:

paperclippy
11-21-2013, 04:24 PM
Megan, DH's parents sent him to counseling when he was a teenager and he felt like he didn't get any benefit out of it at all, so I think that's where he's coming from. His whole family has a history of depression and related anxiety disorders and I think all of them except for DH have been on some form of medication for it at some point. (I admit I reeeeally hope our girls escape this. DH's aunt on his dad's side had twin daughters too and one of them committed suicide.) DH is scared of taking drugs though and since he feels like it is a biochemical problem for him rather than an emotional problem he doesn't see the utility of talk therapy. In the past it has been pretty reliable that if he exercises and eats right to keep his blood sugar stable he doesn't get depressed, or if he does it's not as severe. He does best if he gets an hour of exercise every day.

Dagmar, in the email he sent me he did mention that he needs to be better about just getting himself to get up and exercise during naps. I think it's so hectic and exhausting when they're awake that when they go down for a nap he just wants to take the time to relax, so it's hard to force himself to work out. Also it needs to be a short workout because we never know if they're going to sleep 45 mins or 2 hours, and it's not clear if he'd have time to shower after or not.

Complicating the issue is that every time he's tried a new exercise regimen lately he's just ended up injuring himself. Anyone have recommendations for workouts that you can do at home with minimal equipment that will get your heart pumping but aren't too high-impact? We have weights but no cardio machinery.

JayEll
11-21-2013, 05:02 PM
Jessica, do you have room for a mini-trampoline? Low impact, but gives a good workout just by jogging on it. Prices vary, but they start around $30.

Please do consider that book I posted about awhile back. The Sleep-Easy Solution.

bargoo
11-21-2013, 05:58 PM
Welcome back Shannon!

Allison, I also would have suggested brownies or cookies for dessert. I'm just lazy that way I guess. :lol: Certainly it is easy to make them for a huge crowd and they transport well at room temp.

Megan, I'm here! Sorry Emma is still having problems. I hope the vet can get her sorted out soon. I know how hard it is to worry about your fur-baby!

I'm feeling pretty apprehensive about Thanksgiving. I'm already making a list of all of the items we need to pack in the car to be at MIL's house most of the day. Diapers, wipes, clothes, bibs, burp cloths, blankets, swaddles, breast pump, bottles, booster chairs, white noise machine, etc. etc. etc. The girls need a nap for every 2 hours they're awake so they will need to nap while we're there since Thanksgiving is usually at least a 4-hour event. I'm not sure if I should pack the baby monitor or what. Also nervous about there being so many people and it being flu/RSV season. The girls have avoided getting sick so far and just had their flu shots but I'm still worried.

Our schedule is a giant mess right now. DH is also a mess :lol: . Seriously though, he has historically treated his depression with exercise, and since he's been a SAHD he hasn't been able to exercise except for walking the kids, and it's now too cold to walk them and they aren't reliably scheduled enough to be able to do it (they might start screaming halfway through). In any case he has been down in the dumps and has little patience with the babies. He's been getting progressively grouchier for at least a week, and now is at the point where I am spending extra time at home in the morning and handling almost all the nighttime wakings because he is too angry to be calm and patient with the babies. He's basically angry at them for being unpredictable, and there's nothing that can be done about that. I am going to take off work the day before Thanksgiving and basically send him out of the house to do whatever he wants all day while I watch them so he can have a break. My work has a program for free counseling sessions and I'm trying to convince him to call, but he has long been of the opinion that talk therapy is a waste of his time so I don't know that I can make any progress there. I might call myself for some advice on dealing with DH when he's like this! I offered to hire a part-time nanny to take on some of the burden but he says no. This morning when I was leaving for work I offered to stay home and he said no, then I asked if he was going to be okay and he said, "I'm going to be miserable." I offered again to stay home and he refused again. :shrug: I don't even know what to do with him right now. He did at least email me once I was at work and apologize for being so grouchy -- partly related to not having eaten his breakfast on time and he gets extra grumpy when his blood sugar is low.
Did your mother ever come ? That would take some of the stress off your household, she is the girls grandmother and if she wants to help, let her. I see a lot of stress in both you and DH.
Have you thought about cutting your work hours, instead of working 5 days a week try 4 days a week. Temporarily , for a few months you would still have as much to do but the pressure would be a little less.

alinnell
11-21-2013, 06:01 PM
Oh, my! A house we worked on a couple of years ago is going on the market. The owner is asking $39 MILLION dollars! You can see a video of the house here http://vimeo.com/46339474

neurodoc
11-21-2013, 10:13 PM
Jessica, do you have an Xbox? You can buy a Kinect add-on for $100 and the Nike+ kinect fitness program for another $20 (both cheaper if you get them used). The exercise program is interactive, fun and a really intense workout at the higher levels. Also, I had 2 babies with colic (though admittedly, not at the same time). Car rides with the window open helped during the screaming fits (yes, even in January - we'd bundle them up). Also, DH can always stroller them around your local mall, where it's warm and he can feed the crying one on one of the many benches scattered around.

paperclippy
11-22-2013, 07:44 AM
DH is doing better today. He made sure to get his breakfast on time and pulled out the weights so he could do some exercise while the girls were playing on their play mats. I think my email telling him how worried I was helped spur him into action. He also had a visit yesterday from his mom and the woman who was his nanny when he was a kid (his mom worked 3 12-hour days a week and this woman watched the kids while she was at work for years, and has stayed on as a housekeeper ever since). DH in his usual grumpy fashion had assumed that the nanny was getting dragged along to see the girls by MIL, but it turned out she was super excited to see them and took about a million photos. I think that made DH feel a lot better too, plus it's nice for him to see her since he hasn't seen her much in years. She is kind of his second mom!

Jay, yes, we do have the Sleep-Easy Solution! We haven't been able to implement most of it yet but we're trying. Part of it is that that book, like most sleep books, is geared toward having your baby sleep through the night and like most sleep books has a big disclaimer in the beginning saying if your baby is less than 15lbs you shouldn't try it yet. Our girls are just barely 13lbs and our pediatrician says they should not go all night without eating yet. I do like the book though and we are taking what we can from the suggestions for good sleep habits.

Bargoo, my mom was here for a couple weeks but is back home now. She'll be back again at Christmas for another couple weeks.

Andrea, we don't have an xbox but I think there are maybe some streaming exercise videos we can get through netflix. I think I will suggest to him trying to take them for more walks. They used to have a routine walk time so maybe if they can get back to a set routine the girls will be more comfortable with it.

Thanks so much for all your support and suggestions everyone! :grouphug:

traveling michele
11-22-2013, 12:39 PM
Jessica,
Good to hear! Would his mom be available occasionally to watch the girls for a couple hours? Then, he could exercise and get a break.

Weekend plans everyone?
Dh is flying home as we speak!
I'm getting my hair cut/colored tomorrow and not sure what dh and I will do. I looked at movies and want to see Captain Phillips but I'm not sure how he'll feel (jet lag, etc).

alinnell
11-22-2013, 12:46 PM
My weekend plans are as follows:
After work I start grocery shopping (Trader Joe's)
Tonight we have a wine women dinner
Tomorrow morning we golf
Tomorrow afternoon I finish grocery shopping (Albertson's)
Sunday we'll see a movie (Catching Fire)
I have to make a candy that I'm serving at Thanksgiving (Whiskey, Caramel, Marshmallow Bacon Bark--should be interesting)
I have to make dinner but I think I should be taken out instead (we'll see)
I have to soak the beans for the 13 bean and ham soup I'm making for Monday's dinner when my Dad arrives

I started a "to do" list for just about every day next week. I'm already exhausted!

Shannon in ATL
11-22-2013, 01:09 PM
Allison - you should totally be taken out to dinner after all that. :)

Mudpie
11-23-2013, 05:41 AM
So DH is getting us the Play Station 3 for Christmas - at least this week he is.

Could any of you suggest RPG's or other games that aren't "first person shooter" that DG and I could enjoy together? I'm kind of overwhelmed by the selection and I'm in charge of getting games.

Thanks!

Dagmar :dizzy:

saef
11-23-2013, 01:48 PM
Let us all commiserate at the runup to the holidays and our weekend chores.

My to-do list for Saturday:

Two back-to-back hour-long classes at gym
Go to P.O. to have my mail held
Pick up a pair of running tights at the running store
Use up overripe bananas to make muffins
Roast a tray full veggies to empty out the fridge
Do two loads of laundry
Iron seven shirts & blouses
Get a mani-pedi
Pack my suitcase for departure Upstate
Work on a document for work

For Sunday

Finish packing in the morning
Bundle up for the race in Central Park, meet at the gym for my ride
After race, home to shower
Pack lunch
Pack car
Get in the car & drive about five hours to Upstate NY

My reward is watching "The Walking Dead" on Sunday night in sweatpants.

gardenerjoy
11-23-2013, 05:17 PM
ICUwishing: for gourmet vegetarian cooking, I'd recommend:


Super Natural Cooking by Heidi Swanson
Herbivoracious by Michael Natkin (reviewed here by a friend: http://www.bethfishreads.com/2012/07/weekend-cooking-herbivoracious-by.html)
anything by Isa Chandra Moskowitz (I eat her tempeh sausage crumbles for lunch almost every day and that's very flavorful. The recipe is here: http://www.theppk.com/2008/10/tempeh-sausage-crumbles/)


Also, I would suggest looking into your favorite ethnic cooking. Lots of Mexican, Indian, and Asian cooking is vegetarian.

Mudpie
11-23-2013, 06:30 PM
saef You're running a race in Central Park? Manhattan? AWESOME!

Dagmar :D

silverbirch
11-24-2013, 04:07 AM
So DH is getting us the Play Station 3 for Christmas - at least this week he is.

Could any of you suggest RPG's or other games that aren't "first person shooter" that DG and I could enjoy together? I'm kind of overwhelmed by the selection and I'm in charge of getting games.

Thanks!

Dagmar :dizzy:

I asked the DB who said "Legend of Zelda". He doesn't know if it's for PS3 but thought it might be worth looking into. I'm not sure how strong this info is but it's a name at least!.

Mudpie
11-24-2013, 05:51 AM
I asked the DB who said "Legend of Zelda". He doesn't know if it's for PS3 but thought it might be worth looking into. I'm not sure how strong this info is but it's a name at least!.

Thanks! One of DH's band mates plays this and he loves it. Unfortunately it's not on a system that we can also use for Netflix, which is the real reason DH wants a system.

Dagmar :dizzy:

Megan1982
11-24-2013, 11:29 AM
Morning all,

My weekend has not gone as planned. Emma had such a bad night Friday night and Saturday that I cancelled my plane ticket to my parent's house. BF and I decided she needs to go back to the vet first thing Monday, and that since he's working far from home these frequent outings are too much to ask friends to cover while I would have been out of town. I spent yesterday crying about my dog, my family, and generally being sad and sorry for myself. Good thing Emma was the only one around to see me pout.

I'm trying to focus on the positive. Losing a $200 change fee is not that bad, really, and I have a ticket credit to visit my parents in the next calendar year. It's only a month until Christmas when I can go see my nieces and the rest of my family. We will skype this week. Besides, I have BF, many friends, and BF's family is nearby to spend Thanksgiving with. And hopefully the vet will suggest something better tomorrow for Emma.

It sounds like everyone is busy getting ready for the holiday week! I'm now uncertain what food to prepare for the week and my several holidays here, but I did spend yesterday doing some much needed house cleaning and garden tending. I think I'll look online for some recipe inspiration. I know I'll be eating some heavy meals outside the house, so I was thinking some comforting, veggie-filled things would be good for here.

Dagmar, I don't know if your DH is set on ps3 but the wii works with netflix and makes you stand up to use it. It might only be swinging your arm around to "throw" a bowling ball etc, but at least it makes you're not sitting on your bum. There are plenty of wii games with multiple players that aren't just shooting and violent.

Allison, marshmallow bacon bark? Sounds interesting. Let us know how it turns out.

Saef, safe travels to your mom's. Enjoy your sweatpant lounging and some R & R tonight.

Michele, enjoy your time w DH! Glad he is home.

Jessica, how are the girls and DH doing? And you, too? Ooh, the mall would be a perfect indoor "track". I hadn't thought of that. Good suggestion Andrea. My older niece didn't have colic, but driving with white noise on the radio in the car helped her sleep.

gardenerjoy
11-24-2013, 01:29 PM
Megan1982: bummer about the change in plans. I always find that so hard to deal with. You're doing all the right things, though, figuring out a Plan B that will work well for you.

We had a good dinner out last night. Same people and place as the dinner a couple of weeks that started a downward spiral for me. So, I'm doing all the things today that will keep my routines in place. I think it helps that I'm not hungover today! So, limiting the wine was a very good idea.

alinnell
11-24-2013, 01:54 PM
Megan~I'm so sorry about Emma. I hope the vet is able to figure out what is wrong. Sorry you had to change your plans, too.

The Whiskey, Caramel, Marshmallow and Bacon Bark is interesting. I made the bacon last night and ended up throwing much of it away--that which is still okay I'll keep for a salad topping. The recipe calls for the cooked bacon to be coated in sugar water and then egg white to be beaten and pepper and cayenne added to that and then stir in the bacon and bake at a low temperature for 30 minutes. Maybe my egg was too big, but the eggy bacon was just gross! I pulled off the excess egg and this morning I cooked the bacon my way (chop it up, cook, draining the grease often, then spreading the cooked bacon on a baking sheet and sprinkling with sugar, pepper and cayenne and then baking it. Much much better.). Then the marshmallow stuff didn't look like it'd set after adding the whiskey, so it's in the freezer in hopes that it will firm up. It'll have to be stored in the fridge, that much is true.

traveling michele
11-24-2013, 04:50 PM
I'm so sorry Megan! Poor Emma. Hang in there. Has the vet suggested a specialist or have you tried different foods? That is such a bummer!

JayEll
11-24-2013, 07:33 PM
I hope Emma gets better soon, Megan.

Saw this article today about Tough Mudder races. I can't figure out why anyone would do this. Death wish? Life too boring? Adrenaline junkies? Dunno.

http://www.today.com/health/13-shocks-one-race-er-doctors-warn-about-10-000-2D11641896

Mudpie
11-25-2013, 05:26 AM
I hope Emma gets better soon, Megan.

Saw this article today about Tough Mudder races. I can't figure out why anyone would do this. Death wish? Life too boring? Adrenaline junkies? Dunno.

http://www.today.com/health/13-shocks-one-race-er-doctors-warn-about-10-000-2D11641896

Was it you Jessica that ran the Tough Mudder?

Dagmar :dizzy:

silverbirch
11-25-2013, 06:37 AM
Michele, I think.