PCOS/Insulin Resistance Support - nov-dec 2013 support chat




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SMSDREAMER2007
11-16-2013, 05:20 PM
I didnt see one started so I figured I would!!


SMSDREAMER2007
11-16-2013, 05:22 PM
So hows everyones months going? Mines ok, im figuring out that while I DO need low carb to feel great, if I dont have SOME starch I feel icky too so im keeping potatos, sweet potatos and quinoa in my diet but im keeping them to about 20-30% of my diet.

CysterChick
11-19-2013, 12:49 AM
I'm new here so I hope it isn't rude to jump in.

My month so far has been interesting. Aside from having PCOS with IR I've apparently now also jumped right into type II diabetes and Hugh cholesterol. Joy.

I've been put back on Metformin at 1500 mg, Atorvastatin 20 mg and Spirolactone 25 mg.

The up side, I've lost 8 lbs, the down side I now have to check my blood sugars and completely overhaul my diet. I like slow steady changed but I don't have that luxury now.


SMSDREAMER2007
11-19-2013, 03:36 AM
Welcome cyster! This section weans and waves with chatter; sometimes active sometimes not so much but im here!!
Sorry to hear about the jump from IR to diabetes :/
Congrats on the weight lost!! You can do this, you have it in you to change your diet and stick with it!

Kirkz
11-19-2013, 03:59 AM
Hi another newbie here!

I started my diet on the 10th so this is my second week in. I'm feeling pretty good, I've hit some bumps in the road but I feel positive. I'm not how much if any weight I've lost. I'm looking at buying a set of scales. I hope I can keep my diet up during the festive season.

SMSDREAMER2007
11-19-2013, 10:25 AM
Welcome kirkz!!

Holidays are definately a hard one. Do your best and if you fall off get back on the next day! A cheat day is only bad if it turns into a cheat week or cheat month!!

tofutolerator
11-20-2013, 07:51 PM
Hello ladies,
Decided to join up in hopes to connect with people who understand the struggles we all live with each day to control our weight and deal with the PCOS symptoms.
I've been struggling with my weight mainly starting six-seven years ago. I've always been decently active and athletic but always manage to be thirty to forty pounds overweight. At the peak of my sudden weight struggles my periods became very irregular which my Dr. helped with birth control pills. He believed the weight gain and irregular cycles were due to stress of college. After my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer I decided to stop the pill.
I started seeing a new doctor after relocating for my job to see if there would be a natural way to end the pill and manage my weight thinking it was related to stress. After some blood tests and advice on diet and exercise I was referenced to a great OBGYN when my weight wouldn't budge. She ran more blood tests and an US before clearing me off of the pill. As of nine months ago its official, I have PCOS :/. Dropping the pill and exercising and dieting I lost....five pounds in five months. More testing showed I was insulin resistant. So I went on Metformin which my body took to really well. In two months I lost ten more pounds without even trying, wasn't really exercising anymore due to hectic work schedule. Then month and a half ago seven pounds, then three more appeared out of nowhere on the scale. I even started running and walking the dog more in this time which makes me feel more defeated.
Started taking my metformin same time everyday to regulate my small dose. Dropped weekend beers with the friends and a bit more exercise added. Down two of those gained pounds. Now the holidays are coming.
I'll need lots of support this holiday season if I'm going to finally kick these eight more pounds I gained back.
The mantra....MORE VEGGIES, LESS CARBS, MORE GYM. WE CAN DO THIS

SMSDREAMER2007
11-21-2013, 12:02 AM
Yes we can tofu!!! Welcome!!!! (Btw..soy..I.e....tofu isnt good for pcos)
Ive been in your boat plus another ummm 90 lbs >. <. We can all do this together!!

tofutolerator
11-21-2013, 12:29 PM
Dreamer,
Is it all soy products? My doctor told me soy in its purest forms are actually good for you but its the by products we need to avoid. No soy sauce and the ones that you find in the ingredient section of popular products. I know I need to keep my soy to a minimum anyways because edamame has strains of estrogen in it and if you're at risk of breast cancer you need to avoid it.

This is why I'm here, to learn what works and doesn't work because this is all new to me.
Good news is after a bad slump and being lazy about everything including my metformin when work got busy things have mellowed back out. I've been taking my small dose metformin same time everyday and increased my exercise. My reward was only being four days late for my cycle this month. This makes me so happy. Last month I was two weeks late. Also the cramps are half as severe and so are the hot flashes.

SMSDREAMER2007
11-21-2013, 12:47 PM
Edamame is the purest form of soy. All soy has excess phyto estrogens. Soy is a bit debateable in pcos and whether to eat it or not but for the most part people I meet have soy issues. Gluten/wheat, dairy and soy are big pcos triggers for many.

I know what you mean on the cycle...my body settled back into "fat" so now im 2 mos late not pg. When I lose more weight itll come back regular.

tofutolerator
11-21-2013, 09:03 PM
Do you mean triggers as far as with weight issues or other symptoms?

jessie1983
11-21-2013, 09:26 PM
Really?? I am practically a vegetarian and have tofu/tempeh at least 4 times week. Eek. Apparently I am pre PCOS and pre IR (not sure if this is a thing or my bulk billing Dr just couldn't be stuffed discussing meds with me!). Got the usual "lose weight" comment from the Dr. . . Her awesome advice was "don't eat bread with dinner, and go for a walk every day". Phew, lucky it is that easy. I've just quit my job so will be dieting on a serious budget, which is difficult, because although fresh fruit and veg is seriously cheaper than anything else, things like cottage cheese; soy products and lean meats are expensive. The diet I will follow is "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants" with a Low GI spin. I live off silken tofu shakes as I work out and feel like I need the extra protein. Will have to look into this soy thing. I'm on the mini pill (progesterone only pill): anyone know if this can make you put and keep weight on? I swear my weight is creeping off so slowly despite cutting back and increasing the gym. Blergh.

SMSDREAMER2007
11-21-2013, 10:42 PM
Yes edamame is soy straight from the plant. Everything else is processed from edamame. Soy nuts are dried edamame and soy milk, tofu, etc is processed edamame, thats why only edamame is green and everything else is brown/white.

Gluten/wheat, soy and dairy are all known to make weight harder to lose and also make it harder for hormones to even out which means symptons stay the same or get worse.

There is a Pre diabetes but no pre-IR..IR is prediabetes....its the step between diabetes and normal sugar levels. IR is common in people with PCOS. There is also no pre-PCOS, you either have the hormone imbalances or you don't. Its kind of annoying how many doctors "think" they know PCOS and how to treat it but they don't. I bet the doc suggested birth control and metformin too right?

tofutolerator
11-22-2013, 04:54 PM
Pcos is so hard to get a handle on it, my doctors toyed with the idea for almost a year before saying I have it. And I'm fortunate because I see my doctor all the time to ask her questions. I work for the hospital that my doctor is at so my care is free and I stop in often. Otherwise I'd prob have gone another two yrs before being diagnosed. Was so tired of doctors taking the easy way out and blaming stress.
My doctor did put me on low dose metformin which actually worked great for me when I take it regularly like I'm suppose to

tofutolerator
11-24-2013, 10:07 AM
I need good healthy pcos friendly breakfasts. Any suggestions? I want to try starting my days on a good foot. I noticed with certain foods I'm dead tired by noon because of my blood sugar levels.

veggiedawg
11-24-2013, 12:10 PM
Hi Girls! Nice to see a conversation thread on this board!
I've been slacking off on "really dieting" and, of course, I haven't lost weight in ages! Thankfully, I'm not gaining either.

As for breakfast, I usually have one egg and one slice of whole grain toast. I've been into different rye breads lately. I find I need a bit of carb to feel fulfilled.

Ricotta cheese on toast works for me too. Although, I don't think I could ever make it to noon without a small snack around 10am.

What are you currently eating for breakfast?

SMSDREAMER2007
11-24-2013, 01:30 PM
Tofu- if its workibg for you keep at it! I do suggest looking for some natural ways to keep blood sugar down later because metformin long term is really hard on your system but again..every person is different. As for me for breakfasts I usually have an omlette with bacon or chicken and spinach in it and some sort of potatos and fruit; or rarely I might do 2 eggs and some gluten free steel cut oats.

Congrats on not gaining veggie!!!

Sadly I had a stir fry for lunch yest n the excess quinoa sent me into a carb craving I think; le sigh.....

tofutolerator
11-24-2013, 02:10 PM
My favorite breakfast was two eggs and whole grain toast. But my dr says no more toast bc that might be why I tank around noon. If I have the time I cook steel cut oats with cinnamon, almond milk, and a tiny bit of brown sugar. Throw some apples or fruit in it.
Hate that my new guy always wants to go to our favorite diner. Don't get me wrong I love it and its our little spot but it's so hard choosing something healthy. And when I work mornings I have a hard time being good about breakfast. So not a morning person.

tofutolerator
11-24-2013, 02:12 PM
Oh and to formally introduce myself, I'm Autumné. And I'm glad I found this website. No one around me rly understands what we go through

SMSDREAMER2007
11-24-2013, 02:42 PM
Hi autumne!!
Easiest thing to do to help you eating out; ask for them to use cooking spray in preparing your food not butter or oil and skip the pasta/bread/ tortillas.
Crashing from the bread would be either the carbs, the wheat/gluten, or both. Try having fruit instead of toast and add a small amount of cheese ( this is the only dairy I can tolerate personally..I think its because its triple processed to turn it into cheese from milk) or have apples and a nut butter with your eggs.

tofutolerator
11-24-2013, 04:06 PM
I do love having an apple or banana to eat between breakfast and lunch when working. And a yogurt between lunch and dinner. I was told to also try sprinkling cinnamon in things to help my blood sugar so I'm trying that. We're starting to realize I'm way more sensitive than we thought to my body changes and foods. Especially since we can't blame stress anymore, not when I tackled that beast with better life choices and relaxation techniques :)

tofutolerator
11-24-2013, 04:10 PM
Oh and the thing that ppl don't believe when they look at my body and weight is that I actually don't eat alot of carbs. My morning toast and some crackers in the afternoon would be it mostly. I can't remember last time I ate pasta, don't rly like it. Never order it out bc I could make it at home but never make it at home either. If I do go for carbs I opt for oatmeal, brown rice, or quinoa

SMSDREAMER2007
11-24-2013, 04:10 PM
Good idea! Keep in mind fruit alone can cause sugar spikes...fruit has LOTS of carbs n fructose so try pairing it with peanut butter or cheese to control spikes. The snack of fruit could be causing your crashes as well and not the toast, the toast is paired with protein/fat from the eggs....the fruit is not paired.

tofutolerator
11-25-2013, 01:20 PM
Oh great advice :) ill start pairing my apples with something

SMSDREAMER2007
11-25-2013, 05:32 PM
;) what most dont realize is the sugar in fruit behaves like starch (pasta, bread, etc) in out bodies, we still need fruit for vitamins, etc just be careful on how much you eat...yogurt has lots of carbs n sugar too. Most everything has carbs and most carbs act negatively on our body.

tofutolerator
11-25-2013, 07:51 PM
:( this is why I feel like there is no hope. Even the supposedly good stuff is bad for us. Constantly feeling defeated in this battle. Now I get to go home in a few days for a day celebrated by tons of food and watch my two beautiful thin blonde sisters gorge themselves on whatever they want with no consequence.

SMSDREAMER2007
11-25-2013, 09:53 PM
Honestly. Its a give and take..some can do lots of fruit others cant. The magic number SEEMS to be 100 carbs/day for pcos which is the equivalent to a cup of pasta, 2 apples and half a cup of berries. On the other hand some do AMAZINGLY well as vegetarians but I do mean vegetarians as in little to no pasta. Personally I use steel cut GF oats instead of bread in the AM and quinoa instead of rice with other meals. It works for me. Sadly there is no end all be all cure or diet for pcos because while we all have similarities, we also have many differences. Just because I cant do most dairy doesnt mean you cant! Experiment and try it. Fir ME personally I have 1 fruit with breskfast and veggies with lunch and dinner. If I want something stsrchy I have some potato or quinoa with dinber (they even make quinoa pasta). The key is to make the least destructive choices and keep to serving sizes of those choices. I use MFP because it tracks everything including sodium for me. What I can tell you; please remember they are things I have seen heard and tried in my own research and conversationsas well as trial and error. I am by no means an end all be all 100% correct person. Try things yourself and find your way. Ill be here to help n give advice if and when you need it but I highly suggest you do your own research and get other opinions then decide what works for you.

astrophe
12-29-2013, 03:09 PM
Thanks for getting it going!

Sorry I've been AWOL. Really don't want to get into details -- just lots of eldercare problems. Sigh.

But I missed being here and doing something for ME so I'm trying to be more present.

A. :)

veggiedawg
12-29-2013, 03:41 PM
Astrophe, I hope the New Year is better/calmer for you. :hug:

And I hope all the PCOS girls are having a good Christmas holiday. :D

I've been sick and missed the big family dinner, so, New Year's eve I'll make up some stuffing just for me. (maybe I'll add extra veggies and pretend it's not so bad, Ha!) I don't eat turkey, but I sure miss the stuffing!

New Years is approaching and time to get back to healthier habits, right?!!?
I hope 2014 is good to all of us!

astrophe
01-05-2014, 02:31 AM
Thanks for the encouragement. I REALLY appreciate that. You have no idea. (I have another patient visit today but I'll be back to check in later. )

In the meanwhile..

January thread!

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/pcos-insulin-resistance-support/291271-2014-january-pcos-support-thread.html#post4911352

Come on over!

A.