Ideal Protein Diet - New Raspberry Chocolates




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mat240
10-30-2013, 03:28 PM
Tried these candies today at weigh in. I thought they were awesome! Only one six piece sleeve allowed per week, but when you just really need chocolate candy, this does the trick for me. I'll have one piece a day, or 3 pieces twice a week etc. I bought a whole box and I'm glad to have them.


ems70508
10-30-2013, 04:51 PM
these sound delish! I weigh in tomorrow AM-i'll have to see if we have them! So how are you counting it toward your daily protein packets? Is one sleeve a serving??

IdealProteinNewbie
10-30-2013, 07:27 PM
Not sure how that would work splitting it up each day.

If you do that you're short on protein and if have it in addition to your normal packets you're adding carbs and sugar to that day.


lisa32989
10-30-2013, 09:11 PM
it was my understanding these are an "additional treat" and not a packet?

It just looks to me like IP is making ways to slow down weight loss so they can make more money.

IdealProteinNewbie
10-30-2013, 09:17 PM
it was my understanding these are an "additional treat" and not a packet?

It just looks to me like IP is making ways to slow down weight loss so they can make more money.

That's what they originally said. Then they changed it and now said it is to replace 1 restricted food per week. If you choose this you can have 6 other restricted packets for the week.

That said, it is hugely caloric with 70% saturated fat for the day and only 10 grams of protein.

I agree. I also don't think it is a good idea to market a new product as a "treat." I'm trying to see food as fuel, not rewards.

IanG
10-30-2013, 09:29 PM
Food is not just fuel. If you use it right it does more than that. It's fuel but also oil and wax. So it makes you go, but should make you run (i.e. physically) better, feel better and look better as well. As for raspberry chocolates, that just smacks of BS.

I mean berries are great for you. But chocolate? Please.

I am not on IP.

Just eat raspberries.

Jenny38
10-30-2013, 09:36 PM
it was my understanding these are an "additional treat" and not a packet?

It just looks to me like IP is making ways to slow down weight loss so they can make more money.

I spoke to my coach last week about the new chocolate bar treat and she is annoyed at IP, told the rep that she buys the product from that she would not stock it and that it goes against what IP is supposed to be doing....supporting people with weight loss. Apparently she also emailed this feedback to the head office. I'm guessing this product won't be selling.

KareVT
10-30-2013, 09:43 PM
it was my understanding these are an "additional treat" and not a packet?

It just looks to me like IP is making ways to slow down weight loss so they can make more money.

Agreed, this is a MAJOR red light food and the way I'm going to handle it is not even tempt myself. I think it's absurd that IP release and endorse a treat like this, it's so evil on so many levels.. Grrr! :devil:

mat240
10-30-2013, 11:02 PM
I disagree with some. My coach says one individual piece a day will not impede my weight loss and I don't have to count one piece as a daily packet. I think my coach knows what he's talking about. They run a large successful clinic. I lost 55 lbs with them years back. Thankfully I have less to lose this time around.
Of course, if one doesn't have the willpower to stop at one small piece, then this is not for them. I've had small pieces of Atkins peanut butter and chocolate candies, and lost an average of six lbs a week while doing IP. These taste way better.
I for one applaud IP for continually coming out with new products to offer more variety, so I don't feel so restricted while OP. I also believe a company has a right to make money on their products. Anyway, if one does not approve, then one does not have to buy them.

Docsaver
10-30-2013, 11:07 PM
If I eat a pice of IP chocolate, I'll be expecting an IP wine drink to go with it. LOL

ems70508
10-31-2013, 09:21 AM
Just posted in the daily thread about this bar because I totally forgot about this thread...

Everyone who works at my clinic isn't a fan of them. I find it interesting in that they only got 10g of protein in it but 15g of fat! There's also 10g of sugar alcohol! I may as well eat a Hershey kiss! Just kidding! I took a nibble at weigh in and wasn't too impressed. Don't think i'll stray from my daily bar BUT it is a good option if you are craving a Hershey bar! I just know that as a restricted, it definitely wouldn't do the job of a bar for me.

I SECOND THE WINE COMMENT! I miss my red wine so much.....

amt6
10-31-2013, 01:05 PM
I couldn't agree with you all more about this new bar. I think that it is a way to work in a "cheat" to your week, when in reality, it's not necessary. If I am going to spend this many calories on an IP snack, I'd rather eat something equivalent off plan. My coach and I tried them on Monday and they weren't even that good. No thanks.

P.S. I took a picture of the nutrition facts for anyone interested.

sarahBell
10-31-2013, 01:12 PM
these are something I would freeze and take out once in a while (only one mind you) and suck on it, to let it slowly melt in your mouth that helps kick the craving for chocolate sometimes!

cass77
10-31-2013, 01:15 PM
My coach is also not going to carry them. She does not agree with them and was told by IP that they are making them more for phase 4. As she said, if you are on Phase 4 you are not going to pay $4.50 for a package of chocolate.

AlisonS
11-03-2013, 08:31 AM
I tended to agree with all of you until I actually tried the bar. Now I disagree. I think the product has its place.

As a once-a-week restricted item, I think it is fine. It is one thing to "give up" chocolate when you are dieting to lose 30-40-50 pounds. It is another thing altogether when you are dieting to lose 130 pounds, like I did. I was on Phase 1 for a YEAR. I am in Phase 4 now, but wish that I would have had this product earlier.

This product is not as sweet as normal chocolate and for me at least, does not seem to get the sugar "swing" going.

Bottom line for this, as with any product - if it is a trigger for you, don't use it. But don't hate on other people if it is something they find helpful. We all have our own experiences on this journey.

Lolo70
11-03-2013, 02:29 PM
For me, eating has a lot to do with flavors and savoring food. I do not enjoy sweets that are just sugar. So, it is ironic that I started to eat so many sugary tasting things on IP and similar diets. I can understand that a lot of people like to eat sweets and that these diets try to cater to that. But I also think that it is crucial to learn to enjoy food for its taste rather than something to sooth and escape. So, I would not spend that much money on something artificially sweet. I'd recommend eating Lindt 90% dark chocolate or any of their other dark bars, like sea salt, chile, or orange zest. Yes, it has more calories and evil carbs and fats, but it actually tastes when you melt it in your mouth and it goes really well with a glass of red wine. I'd wait for maintenance to enjoy that and it would be healthier, too. And cost the same, wine included. And once you learn to enjoy it as a treat, you do not need to eat the whole bar, you actually will be satisfied with one piece or one row. Because it fulfills many different senses.

goldilocksinct
11-05-2013, 10:12 PM
I tried the bar this week. I think I will be completely satisfied to have it once a week (probably Saturday night) as a treat. Like Alison, phase 1 is a long haul for me and I enjoy having this as an option.

Meeshellee
11-05-2013, 10:37 PM
For those of you that have had it, was it worth the extra calories/carbs? Taste-wise?

mat240
11-06-2013, 10:09 PM
I tended to agree with all of you until I actually tried the bar. Now I disagree. I think the product has its place.

As a once-a-week restricted item, I think it is fine. It is one thing to "give up" chocolate when you are dieting to lose 30-40-50 pounds. It is another thing altogether when you are dieting to lose 130 pounds, like I did. I was on Phase 1 for a YEAR. I am in Phase 4 now, but wish that I would have had this product earlier.

This product is not as sweet as normal chocolate and for me at least, does not seem to get the sugar "swing" going.

Bottom line for this, as with any product - if it is a trigger for you, don't use it. But don't hate on other people if it is something they find helpful. We all have our own experiences on this journey.

Bingo, you made the point better than I did. Thx.

Princess Peacock
11-07-2013, 05:07 AM
But don't hate on other people if it is something they find helpful. We all have our own experiences on this journey.

Please point out who here is getting "hated on." No one. Just because people do not like the idea of this latest product and are choosing not to eat it, does not mean they are "hating on" other people.
I absolutely refuse to eat the tomato basil soup packet - Does this mean I am hating on people who do choose to eat it?
People lately are WAY over-sensitive. Eat the chocolate bar if you want to AlisonS. Eat a truckload a week of you chose to. No one here is going to "hate on" you.

Meeshellee
11-07-2013, 12:33 PM
I tended to agree with all of you until I actually tried the bar. Now I disagree. I think the product has its place.

As a once-a-week restricted item, I think it is fine. It is one thing to "give up" chocolate when you are dieting to lose 30-40-50 pounds. It is another thing altogether when you are dieting to lose 130 pounds, like I did. I was on Phase 1 for a YEAR. I am in Phase 4 now, but wish that I would have had this product earlier.

This product is not as sweet as normal chocolate and for me at least, does not seem to get the sugar "swing" going.

Bottom line for this, as with any product - if it is a trigger for you, don't use it. But don't hate on other people if it is something they find helpful. We all have our own experiences on this journey.

Couldn't agree with you more. I have added this to my next order. My coach said it's in addition to whatever packets you have for the day (so you would be having 4 IP products if you chose to have this treat). I will either break it up and have 1 piece per day or if I have it all in one day, I will do the lower calorie packets. That's what I will try. To each his own.

IdealProteinNewbie
11-07-2013, 01:38 PM
Meshellee: My coach said it is to replace your restricted packet for the day, once per week, not in addition to your 3 packets that day.

mat240
11-07-2013, 03:01 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. I have added this to my next order. My coach said it's in addition to whatever packets you have for the day (so you would be having 4 IP products if you chose to have this treat). I will either break it up and have 1 piece per day or if I have it all in one day, I will do the lower calorie packets. That's what I will try. To each his own.

My coach told me one bar (six pieces) per week, no more than that. So last week I did 3 pieces of one bar on two different days. For what its worth, it was a real treat.
I won't abuse the protocol rule for it, but its nice to have something to break things up a bit a couple of times a week.

Skeeterab
11-07-2013, 03:20 PM
Aside from the nutritional issues with this, I just didn't think that the chocolate raspberry bar was that tasty. I love chocolate (dark, milk, bitter, etc.), but this bar didn't impress me at all. It was marketed as this incredibly decadent treat, but it just tasted a bit waxy to me. I didn't think that it was worth it. If I am going to have a restricted item, it might as well be a really good one.

Anita

Lolo70
11-07-2013, 03:42 PM
Dark chocolate with 90% cacao in it is good for your heart and is low in carbs, since it is relatively high in (good) fats. A thin bar with 8 pieces would probably be comparable to the bar with 6 pieces, cost much less, taste better, and be overall healthier. I bet though, the IP bar is much, much sweater. Good to establish an addiction.

90% Lindt per square: 60 cal; 5.5g fat, 1g protein, 3g carbs of which 1.25g is fiber

onmyway1014
11-07-2013, 03:53 PM
Thanks for all the info on this.

Once again - I wish all the clinics were saying the same thing.

LOLO Thanks for the tip on the Lindt 90% chocolate. I am in maintenece so I could do this. The question is: do I want to tempt fate and risk losing control?

I think for PMS chocolate craziness I will try it. That is truly the only time I really find myself looking for something chocolate to eat. It I can't control myself: I won't buy another bar.

lisa32989
11-07-2013, 05:54 PM
Dark chocolate with 90% cacao in it is good for your heart and is low in carbs, since it is relatively high in (good) fats. A thin bar with 8 pieces would probably be comparable to the bar with 6 pieces, cost much less, taste better, and be overall healthier. I bet though, the IP bar is much, much sweeter. Good to establish an addiction.
That has been my thoughts on this product. Anything to keep people "buying" instead of purchasing real food. If it was mostly meant for P4, there is already REAL food (Lindt is a good example) & the bar was unnecessary.

To each their own, of course...I have better ways to spend my dollars.

onmyway1014
11-07-2013, 07:55 PM
To clarify: I meant I would try the LINDT bar. Now that I am in Phase 4 the IP food is WAY TOO SWEET for me. I tried to eat an IP bar this week as a snack: some caramel nut thing: I actually spit it out - grossly too sweet.

It is amazing how my tastes are changing again.

Meeshellee
11-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Meshellee: My coach said it is to replace your restricted packet for the day, once per week, not in addition to your 3 packets that day.

That's interesting because my coach specifically said it doesn't have the nutritional values that the other packets do, so it is in addition to your daily packets but only 1 bar per week.

IdealProteinNewbie
11-07-2013, 08:22 PM
That's interesting because my coach specifically said it doesn't have the nutritional values that the other packets do, so it is in addition to your daily packets but only 1 bar per week.

I would double-check with her just to be safe. This is what IP Headquarters emailed my coach when the announcement came out:

"We have redefined the classic chocolate bar to bring you the Ideal Protein Raspberry Chocolaty Bar, a decadent reward for dieters on all phases, particularly dieters enjoying the freedom of Phase 4.

This chocolate reward is permitted as an occasional treat to replace one restricted food per week.

Reward your dieters success with our newest addition!"

Meeshellee
11-07-2013, 10:13 PM
I would double-check with her just to be safe. This is what IP Headquarters emailed my coach when the announcement came out:

"We have redefined the classic chocolate bar to bring you the Ideal Protein Raspberry Chocolaty Bar, a decadent reward for dieters on all phases, particularly dieters enjoying the freedom of Phase 4.

This chocolate reward is permitted as an occasional treat to replace one restricted food per week.

Reward your dieters success with our newest addition!"

Thank you for that. I will check with her!

dlr9774
11-14-2013, 05:48 PM
My clinic said it is just like a restricted snack, she made it sound like I would take one chocolate bar daily as me restricted item. I know don't know what is what.......

Meeshellee
11-14-2013, 06:52 PM
My clinic sticks with having the bar in addition to your 3 packets...but they did say that your 3 packets shouldn't be restricted items. As we know, every clinic seems to have a different opinion about things.