PCOS/Insulin Resistance Support - Is hirsutism forever?




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Creativian
08-03-2013, 04:24 PM
Something I have been wondering about for a while. If you get the PCOS under control and your hormones start to normalize, do the dark, coarse chin hairs go back to being light hairs--back to normal, in other words? Or are you stuck with them (and the waxing, tweezing, etc.) for life? Anybody know? :chin:


Garnet2727
08-03-2013, 04:58 PM
Stuff that I've read about it indicates that it's permanent. :(

Liliann
08-03-2013, 05:15 PM
I deal with this, do not have pcos, my new medical doctor tested me and my hormones are normal. She said , do not know if its true, but once the weight is reduced, the facial hair will be gone...This is my main reason on weight loss, but noticed on my disabled sister is dealing with it also and she is nearly 60 yrs old.. I had facial hairs since my 30s and rely on razors.

Good luck to you.


ringmaster
08-03-2013, 08:53 PM
I hate to say it, but I think it maybe. I was hoping too, when my weight got lower maybe somehow the hair would grow in less... because... you'd think when I got my weight down I'd want to feel pretty and all, but I tell ya, the hair on my face really ruins my day more often than not.

I think I may call around to see the pricing on electrolysis in my area... I'm hoping it's not too much and I can find a good person who can work fast in an hour (I think pricing goes by the hour). From what I hear that is the one permanent way to get rid of hormonal hair growth... lasers hair removal won't even work on hormonal hairs and may even make it worse!

Creativian
08-03-2013, 08:57 PM
Aw nuts. :(

I tried electrolysis for a while. It was extremely painful, and though they said the hair would stop growing back after a few treatments, I noticed no difference. I would never do it again.

beerab
08-04-2013, 01:57 PM
I did electrolysis too, and it worked, while I was on the PILL! I got off the pill BAM! I turned into a man with a beard, it was disgusting. A friend of mine had a bad experience with laser years ago, and then apparently went back to try laser again, and this time it worked, I guess things have come a lot farther than they used to be in terms of laser.

I went to groupon and I found a groupon for a bunch of laser clinics. I looked up yelp reviews for each one and finally chose one. I pay $100 a month for electrolysis, but I found a groupon for $200 for 6 laser treatments. 1 treatment every 6 weeks comes out to $22 a month for 9 months.

I did the first treatment and it was a difference between night and day. I won't lie, it was PAINFUL. I wanted to cry afterwards I was in so much pain. I have tattoos and tattoos were less painful! So they do the treatment, it takes like 2 minutes, and then it looks the same, but after a few days and up to 10 days, the hairs start falling out. I started exfoliating to scrub them so they fell out, and for 4 weeks my skin was hair free (chin, sideburns, mustache), and now my second appointment is this Tuesday, and maybe 20% of the hair is back, but it's noticeable thinner. I'm not allowed to pluck or wax, so I just shave and trim, but instead of doing it daily I do it after few days but I don't really need to.

I'm so glad I did it, the clinic offered to do another spot for another $200, and I'm thinking of doing my forearms. :)

Oh yeah, so no, it won't get better, specially if you have been plucking, contrary to popular belief you are making it worse not better by plucking!

MauiKai
08-04-2013, 02:20 PM
Why does plucking make it worse?

beerab
08-04-2013, 02:53 PM
Well I think due to some sick twisted cruel fate, when you have a hormonal problem, plucking STRENGTHENS the hair roots....

My electrologist said if you pluck/wax while being treated,you make it harder for your electrologist/laser technician to target the hair follicles they are trying to destroy.

astrophe
08-04-2013, 07:09 PM
My old endoc said it should resolve itself. I can't speak to that since my issues are still not under control. I just tweezer/shave them off in the meanwhile. Once in a great while I'll get a facial/wax

A.

ringmaster
08-05-2013, 09:19 AM
well that sucks on the electrolysis not always working 100%. I am kinda afraid of the laser too.. sounds painful.

I have also heard tweezing, and waxing too, contrary to what we are told that it reduces growth, for hormonal hair it causes more hair and cause it go in darker and thicker. Think I read it's because how it stimulates blood flow in that area and to the hair follicles... I've used an epilator on my chin and neck area all these years, I kinda wonder if it did make things worse- it sure hasn't made it better!

I've been wondering how the at home laser things work, seems like mixed review on amazon. Maybe if I find a good deal on one I'll give it a go.

Creativian
08-05-2013, 11:26 AM
I've been waxing for a while. I find that rather than making the hairs grow out darker, they grow back white at first and then get dark again. I figure this is because the pulling out of the hair traumatizes the follicle a bit, and then it recovers. It certainly does nothing to stop the growth over the long run, but my experience with electrolysis was pretty bad and I'd rather resign myself to a lifetime of waxing than do that again.

astrophe, I hope your endoc is right.

astrophe
08-05-2013, 01:04 PM
I'm not worried about it. I tweezed off all my toe hairs and a patch on my leg near my knee when I was a kid so much they never grew back. My aunt tweezed her eyebrows off. They never came back.

I figure sooner or later the chin hairs will give it up even if hormone balance doesn't get here first.

A.

ringmaster
08-05-2013, 02:23 PM
I'm not worried about it. I tweezed off all my toe hairs and a patch on my leg near my knee when I was a kid so much they never grew back. My aunt tweezed her eyebrows off. They never came back.

I figure sooner or later the chin hairs will give it up even if hormone balance doesn't get here first.

A.

I think leg, eyebrow, etc hair isn't hormonal hair growth though, so those areas will grow back sparser when you rip them out by the root for some reason. hair on the face or areas where women usually don't get thick hair growth is supposed to be different.... yeah.. I don't know, lol.. just what I've read. I use the epilator on my underarms and legs and the hair there hasn't come in thicker or darker.

caliyah
08-06-2013, 01:45 AM
I saved up all the money that I could to get laser hair removal. After just one treatment it was noticeably sparser and I"m continuing treatments. It's worth it. It changed my life.

mariposssa
08-06-2013, 02:37 AM
Well, I had PCOS, hormone issues and hirsuitism when I was thin. So, I don't believe just losing weight will solve the problem for me. But, like I said I had the hormone issues before I had the weight problem. Now, if I could somehow manage to get all the hormone issues in check, maybe there would be improvement in facial hair. IDK. It is a nice thought, but it hasn't happened so far. I had a coworker with PCOS that had laser treatments and it did not help her. It all grew back and it is too expensive to keep going back again and again and again. My personal opinion is that it will come back unless your hormones are right. I think I am in perimenopause and approaching the menopause...which only complicates the hormone situation even further.

beerab
08-26-2013, 10:20 PM
Ringmaster is right, eyebrows and what not are not hormonal. Eyebrows naturally get thinner over time.

Yes it is painful for laser, but my second treatment hurt a LOT less because there was a lot less hair. Honestly it was only 2 minutes of real pain, a day of soreness, and then I was fine.

I'm SO glad I did the laser, I don't feel like a man anymore- and that's with 2 treatments in!

Dragonfly33
08-27-2013, 02:33 PM
If you have the hormones under control, laser is effective but not overnight. I stopped for financial reasons. I did maybe 6-8 treatments with 1 electrolysis treatment and my hair is now 50% less than it was. In the first week, I went every other to every 3rd day and then it spaced out to 5 days in between. You have to let the hair grow (for LHE laser) contrary to what you may have read. I have no scarring and it was not too bad pain wise. Electrolysis hurt more.

I was told not to pluck at all and only to shave with a lady shaver so you are not removing the hair below the skin. It helped the redness that I used to get with my standard razor in the shower.

I was on spironolactone 200mg for 6 months before starting as well as on the pill.

mhill0823
09-05-2013, 05:30 PM
I've purchased a groupon for 6 laser hair removal treatments, and I'm scared to get them done. I've just been kind of sitting on it and waiting until I'm brave enough to go do it.
Reading that it works well encourages me to get a little closer to making the decision.
My facial hair, I know it sounds silly, hold me back from so make things in life. It grows so bad that I'm like "Man, I can't stay the night with my friends, what if they see my girl beard before I can get to the shower in the morning"
I hate that feeling.
I want to go on mission trips and my hold back is the fear of going days without being able to shave.
It's so sad.

helwa588
09-14-2013, 04:54 AM
i think it depends on the person. some people have hair issues when they are thin while others notice it gets worse with weight gain.

my mom for example she always somewhat of facial hair but it was manageable and the hairs were thin. but she says as her weight has gone up throughout the years it has gotten worse.

i did notice when i was on yasmin that my hair growth halted. then when i stopped it came back.

Mia Zoe
09-26-2013, 06:01 PM
My doc said that facial hair problem will be solved if my androgen hormone levels go down. Hirsutism is associated with high levels of androgen and this hormone is responsible for hair growing. Although your androgen hormone levels in a normal range, it will take at least 6 months to get rid of hair problem because hair follicles are renewed within 6 months.

angelinamora
10-08-2013, 10:31 AM
Something I have been wondering about for a while. If you get the PCOS under control and your hormones start to normalize, do the dark, coarse chin hairs go back to being light hairs--back to normal, in other words? Or are you stuck with them (and the waxing, tweezing, etc.) for life? Anybody know? :chin:

In my case: NO :mad: It did not go back to normal. Now I'm trying IPL hair removal and see how that works.

beerab
01-05-2014, 02:47 PM
My doc said that facial hair problem will be solved if my androgen hormone levels go down. Hirsutism is associated with high levels of androgen and this hormone is responsible for hair growing. Although your androgen hormone levels in a normal range, it will take at least 6 months to get rid of hair problem because hair follicles are renewed within 6 months.

Can I just say hahahahahaha your doctor is so wrong it's not even funny. All my hormone results for male hormones have always been "normal" yet I had the worst facial hair. 4 laser treatments in and my hair is like maybe 20% of what it used to be. I've gone from daily shaving to shaving maybe once a week. And the hairs that come out are mostly thinner, just a few stubborn dark ones but even those are lighter/thinner than before.

Pattience
01-08-2014, 03:09 AM
If you've got a hairy problem, get laser hair removal. I used to work in a cosmetic clinic. I got it done on my bikini line. Its the best value for money treatment around. Avoid razors. Do proper research on your laser treatment. Ring up a few clinics. Talk to them about the treatment regime and tell you to tell you everything.

the hair grows back but it takes years and it never gets as thick as it was. For small areas of the body its not a huge investment and it will make you a lot happier.

Its only suitable for dark hair. its not suitable for dark skins

Though things may have changed somewhat form the time i was around it was the late 90s.

Back then they used to tell people to have a treatment once a month but you don't need it quite that often. Read up about the growth cycle of hair, particularly of the area you want to have treated. If you understand this part properly, you may be able to save money from clinics who are trying to over treat you.

imperialistic
02-10-2014, 02:28 AM
Weight loss did not fix my hair problem. The pill did help with the intensity... and I had laser hair removal done.

I cannot stress this enough, do not do laser unless you plan on either never going on the pill or never going off the pill. I restarted the pill and the hair is back in all full glory. My laser hair assistant said that often happens with a big hormone change such as starting or stopping birth control. I pretty much flushed all my money away.

wendylan
02-17-2014, 06:41 PM
I did electrolysis for years,hair always returned. I ordered a permanent at home laser hair remover called Tria laser,it costs $500 and i have been using it for 3 months.You use it weekly and it is working very well but does take time,it has 5 settings and I started low and increased. Some stinging pain but it is working,hair is dramatically reduced and still in progress. HSN had it on 3 easy payments.Well worth the money.

peaceandlove10
02-18-2014, 11:01 PM
my hirsutism was really bad even when i did take spiro, met and ocps, it didnt get better until i did laser treatments and most of the hair in legs and arms didnt grow back, just some scattered thick ones that the laser lady missed. but nothing like before because my hairs would come out in THREEs, like three hairs clumped it was weird, like were one hair was supposed to be well I had three together all over thighs and legs.. anyway, it hurt a lot on legs because thats where they were threes but thats were it worked most. on my face and neck i have some too but way less than before, now they are thinner and more scattered so its good. i recommend laser. its expensive and a bit embarrassing because i am sure i was the only customer who was a woman and getting neck and face done, the technicians looked at me funny... but the stares were worth it because now i dont cry myself to sleep anymore because i was growing a beard. if you have pcos it might not get rid of all the hairs forever but it does diminish them. for me laser was the only thing that worked.

ringmaster
03-17-2014, 03:02 PM
I've been thinking of trying the Tria at home laser... mixed reviews on it, plus never know when the good reviews are fake.

I've also read saw palmetto, and most recently read up on N-acetylcysteine supplement is good for PCOS and treating excess hair. I guess they would be good to use with the laser to prevent the regrowth of hormonal hair growth. Anyone try/use these?

To add, I've lost quite a bit of weight these last few months, I think I'm within 10-20 pounds of my goal weight now. I've cut out alot of carbs and processed foods. I still have alot of facial hair though, hasn't reduced. Basically I have a blondish beard, with some darker hair on my upper lip and chin/neck.

ringmaster
05-15-2014, 11:00 PM
Figured I'd post back here... I decided to try N-acetylcysteine..it's pretty cheap and it's good for a bunch of things (health and beauty wise) and supposed to be safe.. I think it might actually be helping with the facial hair growth. Hair seems to be growing in slower and not as much...

I use an epilator on my face/chin/upper lip and usually within a week I start to feel a bunch of stubble coming in on my chin/neck. Now it seems to not to be growing back so fast, making it a little easier to tweeze the few that come in. Not going to say it's a miracle or that I'm completely hair free, but any little improvement is better than before.

Study on NAC on women with PCOS took it for 6 months, so I'll see, maybe better improvements ahead. Also to add, I don't know if I have actual PCOS, I've never been offically diagnosed, but I have the facial hair.

Mission Fat to Fab
05-21-2014, 07:53 PM
Laser hair removal changed my life. When I was a teenager I had such bad hair on my face and it doesn't help that I'm indian so we're hairier than others. It used to grow really thick and really visible, and I used to bleach the fine hairs but do electrolysis on the thick hairs. Eventually i moved onto laser and although 10 years on i'm still doing it, at least the hair disappears for a while, depending on how my hormones are behaving. I find that I need to shave the area once every 5 days or so, but at least I don't have those horrible thick hairs I used to have when I was a teenager.

Snoofie
05-22-2014, 06:08 AM
I deal with this, do not have pcos, my new medical doctor tested me and my hormones are normal. She said , do not know if its true, but once the weight is reduced, the facial hair will be gone...

Well, I hope that works out better for you than it did for me. I lost 65 pounds and the facial hair is still there. Better than it was...but still there.

mariposssa
05-22-2014, 10:08 PM
For me the hair and the hormone issues both came long before the fat. So, getting skinny wouldn't likely solve it. 60lbs down and not a lot of improvement so far. :( In fact, I think it is getting worse because of peri-menopause.

mysticalsunshine
05-26-2014, 03:20 PM
I have PCOS and the facial hair is horrible, I have to shave everyday or else I will look like I have a full grown beard. I have tried waxing, I have tried a medication that is supposed to make the hair grow in less, it didn't work for me.

moonkissed
05-26-2014, 07:50 PM
I have PCOS & I have hair incredibly bad. It is a constant source of my depression.

My hair is VERY dark & VERY thick. Imagine a very hairy man and that is what I have going on with my face. If I didn't shave daily I would have a full on beard. Even with shaving an hour later you still can see the 5'o clock shadow.

I can not wax because I would have to let it grow in enough to have it done every 2-4 weeks. I pluck some of the worse chin hairs though but it is impossible for me to pluck it all.

I looked into lazer and such removal but researching it, they say for hair like mine it often does not work. The price is out of my range as well & I just could not spend that money + go through the pain for something that doesn't work.

I was told that once I have my health under control it will reduce the hair alot. I pray for that. Without the thought IDK how I would get by.