Living Maintenance - Maintainers Weekly Chat July 1 - July 7




BillBlueEyes
07-01-2013, 05:32 AM
Summer just feels so good. Even yesterday afternoon when our community garden had to be weeded. I pulled out those miserable uninvited guys with tap roots that extend forever as I drooled over the thought that tomatoes will be ready for picking one day. I ate sugar snaps straight from the vine - best tasting things ever.

Welcome back from Greece, Andrea. At local Greece festivals, I've noticed many overweight folks but have marveled at how un-selfconscious they were when up dancing in front of everybody. Everybody looks like Zorba; they belong on the dance floor.


saef
07-01-2013, 06:02 AM
Summer can be as trying as winter, is my feeling, as I'm sure Allison would agree. Here, it's vaguely stormy looking every morning, which then resolves into a humid day, sometimes a bit overcast, sometimes white-hot with sun glare. In the forecast, there is always possible thunderstorm with flash flooding and ya'll know how I hate that "f" word.

I'm about to head out on a run, when I ought to be in my Monday morning spin class. This is part of my resolution to change up my routine a little and also to be among green things, rather than constantly staring into a laptop.

This was the weekend that wasn't. Yes, it was mostly me and the laptop (which is why I'm trying to get out & run, to make good on my resolve), reading six documents that my direct reports wrote during the last quarter and writing up critiques for their midyear reviews. I started off with 15 documents to go through. Thus far, I've read nine. Hoping to finish off the last six sometime today. My manager wanted this all done during the first week in July, though the company's deadline isn't until August. It's hard sometimes for me being a hard-driving woman working for a woman who's even harder-driving than I am.

Mudpie
07-01-2013, 06:11 AM
Good morning!

Bill I suppose, since we are all conscious :o of our weight, that we don't really understand all those folks out there who don't care how overweight they are and just go about living their lives. They dance, they have sex, they go to the mall - :p.

I have become a lot LESS self-conscious :dizzy: when doing new things - for me life literally IS too short etc.

I'm 9 years away from officially being a senior. I've got a lot less life left and mean to LIVE that time, rather than sitting inside and being afraid of how I look doing something.

I now go swimming without worrying about my jiggly thighs or rounded belly. I bike and kayak in spandex and neoprene and don't think about how I look. As long as I'm strong and healthy the cosmetics don't matter :shrug: that much to me.

And having a temporary 2 lb. gain on what is a healthy body :strong: well within proper BMI doesn't ruin my day or week. I don't obsess about reaching a certain number on the scale.

I am at peace with my body and my efforts (and I do MAKE an effort) to maintain it's health. All the small stuff is small stuff.

Can you tell it's a holiday here? I am going on and on :blah: as my plan to go out on my SUP has been suspended by rather high winds so I have lots of time this morning.

Think I'll wake DH in a couple of hours and drag him out for a bike :bike: ride. I suspect he's kinda loving/hating having such a fit partner. He refers to me as his "muscle cutie". :lol:

Good week all!

Dagmar :beach:


silverbirch
07-01-2013, 06:28 AM
Good morning!

_saef_ I'd like to remind you that you used to say that you never ran, because of your knees. Then you went Upstate and had to run a bit, and found you could, a bit. And now you're going out into the green outside world, going out running. And you can! It's lovely to see how you've loosened up there.

About to have a shower after my exercises. MBF - movement-based flexibility.

Heavy rain outside though next door's cockerel doesn't seem to mind.

WardHog
07-01-2013, 07:37 AM
Good morning. Fingers are crossed that the storms will hold off and we will get our last swim meet in tonight. Then I will be free ...

Dagmar, I am ever so slowly getting comfortable with my body as it is as well. So what if I don't weigh 125. I am fit, strong and healthy. The vain part of me wants lipo on my upper arms, though. :p

bargoo
07-01-2013, 08:33 AM
This heat totally takes my appetite away. Yesterday I had to force myself to eat at all. I still came in under calories. The scale showed it this morning, too, but I am not happy about it. I look at it as an artificial loss.
It was 107 here in Northern California, a cool spell for Allison where it was 122,

alinnell
07-01-2013, 10:23 AM
At 5 AM this morning it was 91 degrees and cloudy--about 50% humidity. They say it might rain tomorrow. All I know is that I'm already tired of this weather.

Looking forward to my cruise later this month, but am dismayed that one of the things I wanted DH to see on the trip cannot happen. We're visiting Florence on a Monday when all the galleries are closed, so no seeing the real statue of David. I guess that means we'll have to go back another time? So instead of even going to Florence, we'll do a different tour--this one to Luca (beautiful town) and Pisa so he can at least see the leaning tower.

So very sad to have read the newspaper this morning and learn of the deaths of 19 firefighters in Arizona. Tragic.

ChrisMohr
07-01-2013, 10:53 AM
Dagmar you have accomplished a lot more than just maintenance if you have attained the state of being comfortable in your own body! That's a kind of enlightenment I think.

The stress of losing my wedding chapel business and other stresses have been extreme. This is in some ways the worst time I've had to go through in decades. And I continued to self-medicate with chocolate chip cookies, so now I pulled out of my "winter weight maintenance" and gained a couple more pounds. Eating badly creates temporary numbness but is followed by even lower self-esteem, a kind of physical hangover, and other negatuive consequences we all know too well. I also stopped visiting this site, and my friends and supporters here. Too ashamed to face you all. None of this is good news.

Today is a new day, a new month. A couple days ago we actually signed the contract to sell our wedding chapel. An uncertain financial future lies ahead. We will continue running our chapel until late October and close our doors.

During the loss of our business and the feelings of loss, failure and helplessness that come along with this, I woke up this morning that at least I can take good care of my body and manage my own weight and dietary patterns. So I will lean on my friends here for support as I let go of the cookie habit, cut my calories, and treat myself better in general. I am encouraged that I withdrew into my cave of avoidance and self-pity for a relatively short time, and the weight damage can still be undone.

I also know from sharing time with you all that I am by no means the only person who has experienced life's slings and arrows. One of us died not long ago, and others of us have undergone major family traumas and other huge challenges. Somehow we slog through it all and help each opther along. Thanks in advance and I will keep you informed of my progress several times a week, that is my promise to myself.

bargoo
07-01-2013, 12:18 PM
Happy Canada Day, Dagmar and all our Canadian Friends !!!!!

iriswhispers
07-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Being comfortable in your body is a funny thing, and I'm not sure I'll ever stop struggling with that. I say it's funny because I distinctly remember feeling really good when I first started losing weight and was around 150. Now I'm down to about 120 and I think I'm more insecure than I was then!

My sympathies to those of you dealing with the heat wave - I remember my time in Tucson and I'm pretty glad I'm not there right now (although come winter I'll wish I was)!

Mudpie
07-01-2013, 02:45 PM
Chris :hug: It's good to hear that you are going to now start practicing healthy habits again. Life is change - good or bad - and I believe we can successfully face all the changes with our health at it's best.

I'm also glad to hear you are going to post again. Sharing the bad stuff is really hard sometimes but there is, for me, such a relief when I do. And it's also a joy to share the good stuff - I am hoping for some of that for you real soon!

Dagmar :cheer2:

Mudpie
07-01-2013, 02:49 PM
Happy Canada Day, Dagmar and all our Canadian Friends !!!!!

Thanks! We have celebrating so far by taking a walk for 1 1/2 hours which included the park in which tonite's fireworks will be set off. I am really proud of DH. :cheer: We walked past all sorts of stands selling all sorts of fried greasy stuff :barf: and he stopped at the fresh produce stand and suggested we buy asparagus to BBQ and strawberries for dessert tonite.

We will get a small cup of fries to share at the fireworks - part of our Canada Day fireworks ritual - but that's the indulgence for the weekend!

Dagmar :strong:

traveling michele
07-01-2013, 06:47 PM
Bargoo-- nothing kills my appetite unfortunately. Not even the heat.

Happy Canada Day Dagmar!

alinnell
07-01-2013, 08:37 PM
Oh, my. What have I gotten myself into?

A neighbor called, asked if I could take care of her cats for a week. And do a few other things--bring in the mail, etc. I said yes. I've never been inside her house. Until now. Um, can you say hoarder? And she has FIFTEEN cats! Plus 6 fish, a turtle and several dozen potted plants--all outside that have to be watered daily.

saef
07-01-2013, 08:53 PM
Allison, now that crosses the line between a favor and a part-time job. Your neighbor needs to pay some impecunious teenager in the area, or perhaps engage a house-sitter.

Michele, it takes an awful lot of humidity and heat to kill my appetite. Today, in my air-conditioned apartment, after a run in the humidity, it was thriving.

You walk sounds lovely, Dagmar, and reminds me that I ought to do a meandering, almost aimless, observational kind of walk someday myself. I've been rather a vigorous strider with too many errands on her mind.

Chris, I understand the feelings of loss, failure and helplessness. I felt like that after my apartment was destroyed in a flood. I ended up feeling rather defiant at the world. Yes, I felt like giving it the finger. "Take what you will, destroy all I own, but I am still standing, right here, in this body." I relate to your revelation that you must take care of yourself. Weight-training felt like the answer. It wasn't just a metaphor for getting stronger, it was a way of feeling bigger in a world that was making me feel small. Please don't stay away when you feel absolutely awful. Bring all the ugliness and awfulness here. Or what else is the board good for, but as a place to brag and put up a front about how great everything is going? And why bother doing that here, of all places?

Ward, are you free? Was the swim meet held? And I'm with you on feeling attracted to lipo. I've been reading about all kinds of procedures online, some of which use lasers or extreme cold or whatever, feeling fascinated by what I used to immediately dismiss as quackery. I go for facials and pedicures and massages & for some reason it doesn't seem like a big jump to go for something else. But ah, the expense. The puritan in me looks at the numbers and thinks, "Trip to Europe."

Birchie, yes, I run, in my way, that is, I run all the way, but I always feel like I must be doing it wrong. In the pictures, people are long-striding and they seem to be floating. To me it's a lot of pounding, jouncing, jarring my knees, making a bit of a spragging sound with my sneakers. Thud, thud, skip, thud, thud. When does that lovely deerlike floating moment kick in? I've got the breathing right, and the heart-rate, but not the gait.

neurodoc
07-01-2013, 09:39 PM
Bill, I love sugar snaps. Jealous of your garden (though not the care and maintenance of it) and your obvious joy in summertime. To me, summer is just a hot season when the kids are out of school so I need to make lots of plans for keeping them entertained and out of trouble.

Saef, I've had exactly those same sentiments about running. I am a terrible runner (no stamina whatsoever; I either drop into a fast walk every 1/4 mile, or I get a stitch in my side, or both) and find it really, really hard to go more than 2-3 miles. People who can run comfortably mile after mile absolutely mystify me: what alien sort of cardiovascular system do they have? What alternate neuromuscular wiring allows them to keep moving forward at the same pace for 5, 10, 15 miles or more?

Dagmar, I both understand and envy you your hard-fought comfort with body image. I am definitely much more comfortable in my own skin than I was 5 years ago, and strength training has been a HUGE help in that regard. But I still have scale-dependent self-esteem, and a bad day is virtually synonymous with a "feeling fat" day. Even though I have given up on seeing the scale show me my "goal weight," I would love to get to a point where I can register gains and losses in a merely clinical way, and use the number only as a guide to tell me if my energy intake and expenditure are in balance or need to be adjusted.

Mudpie
07-02-2013, 05:35 AM
I used to be so glad when "Monday" came :dance: and I was back to work. Not so much now, particularly after 3 days mostly off, doing stuff I like. I think it's partly aging and partly burn-out :( - I've been a commercial dogwalker since 1994, full time since 1996. That's a long time to do anything. I still enjoy it but I'd like to do less of it. I thought this week would be a slow one, with 3 dogs away, but I got replacements booked that I really didn't want. But you have to help people out in a service business and I get to finally walk a pug - something I've wanted to do for years. Even better - his name is DOUG! How cute is that.

I will need the money though - DH already thinks he's going to need about $500 worth of power tools to work on the new house. I'm going to spend the money. If that gets him off the couch and away from the TV it's money well spent.

We get to visit the house tomorrow morning @ 9. I am NOT booking in anything last minute and cancelling the visit. Tomorrow is the day we find out if the furnace can be moved and if a pass through from kitchen to dining room is possible.

I better go stretch!

Dagmar :beach:

ChrisMohr
07-02-2013, 09:39 AM
Addiction thrfives on secrecy. So here is my second daily report: I kept to my goals, very little sugar, solid weight loss of two pounds. Two more days and I will be over the "withdrawal" from sugar. Then the long plateau of maintenance!!!

alinnell
07-02-2013, 09:41 AM
Count me in as one of those who are contemplating lipo or cool sculpt or any of the myriad of other treatments out there. I'd love my upper arms and back fat areas gone! Googling doesn't really help because all you get are the "rave reviews" which only cement my apprehension. Lately the Debbie Boone Lifestyle Lift is looking quite alluring.

saef~this neighbor usually employs a house sitting service when she travels. There was a snag in her reservations this time. She was scheduled to leave July 13th or so but when she called to confirm, they had nothing for that date and they offered her the week prior to the 13th but she had already booked her house sitter for the week of the 13th and they didn't know if they had anyone available for the prior week, so she called me. She's still trying to get her usual sitter to do the job and she'll let me know if it turns out she doesn't need me. In some respects I do hope I don't have to do the job, however, I'd love to get back in her house and take some photos to share with you all! While it isn't anywhere near what the TV show is like, she is very, very much a hoarder.

Andrea~I'm like you on the running. Only once in my C25K was I able to run the entire 5k. When I was at the top of my game, I could manage to make about 3/4 a mile with a 2 minute rest (slow walk) and then another 3/4 mile. The second 3/4 was downhill and much easier. I've never been a runner--hated all aspects of running in my childhood and have never experienced that "runner's high" that we all hear about.

dstalksalot
07-02-2013, 09:56 AM
I have been kind of lurking around these maintainer threads. I am enjoying reading about dog walking, trips to Greece and summer gardens. Its gonna be hot today. I think I will take my boys swimming today.

I have not posted much because I some how think that my maintaining weight loss is an illusion. Its been three weeks and I actually just accidentally lost another pound. I increased calories and my workouts but am feeling like I should not be eating this much food. I need to keep watch over micro nutrients. I noticed I have been eating too much fruit. Still working at those healthy habits.

bargoo
07-02-2013, 10:19 AM
Welcome dstalksalot, You are welcome here anytime no matter where you are in maintenance. PS. I have not walked any dogs lately or been to Greece and I don't have a summer garden. I am a totally boring person.

Mudpie
07-02-2013, 10:21 AM
Allison I'm kinda "old school" so please don't take offense at this but IMHO posting photos of this woman's household anywhere online is an invasion of her privacy. I think your use of the word "hoarder" gives all of us a clear enough idea.

Dagmar :dizzy:

alinnell
07-02-2013, 10:38 AM
Allison I'm kinda "old school" so please don't take offense at this but IMHO posting photos of this woman's household anywhere online is an invasion of her privacy. I think your use of the word "hoarder" gives all of us a clear enough idea.

Dagmar :dizzy:

Ooh, I hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks.

Shannon in ATL
07-02-2013, 11:17 AM
Saef - I've been running for four years now and I still have no grace whatsoever. DH tells me I look like a person who just learned how to walk and don't know what to do with my arms when I run. I always feel like Phoebe from Friends. LOL

Hey there, dstalks! Welcome. :) Post here all you want, we'd love to get to 'know' you.

Dagmar - I love your comfort with yourself. I hope I have that one day.

Welcome back, Chris. I'm sorry about the loss of your business, and am glad that kicking the sugar monster back seems to be going well.

Andrea - I don't think the scale number will ever be something clinical for me. It will always be fraught with anxiety.

Allison - wow, 15 cats. I can't imagine.

I was reading an article yesterday about how so many people obsess about food and it said "The average adult spends 338 days of their life calorie-counting - that equates to 20 minutes a day, over two hours a week and an average of 121 hours per year checking labels for calorie content, talking about calories or thinking about calories." That is a little freaky when you look at the total numbers like that.

On the topic of summer gardens, we are getting too much rain this year. It is rinsing all the nutrients out of my raised bed soil, the plants aren't growing tall and my tomatoes are cracking while they try to turn from too much moisture. My peppers are doing well and I'm about to be flooded in jalapeno, but I need the rain to slow down. LOL Didn't think I'd say that after the drought last year. I haven't had to water a single time in over a month, the rain has done it for me.

Mudpie
07-02-2013, 04:20 PM
Shannon We also have "too much" rain up here. I was chatting with the cashier at the local grocery chain and she did not plant seeds this year. Apparently last year's were a wasted effort and, looking at a long range forecast that predicted lots of rain, she passed on her vegetable garden this year.

Yet we have allotment gardens near 2 places that I drive past most days and everyone in there is tending something. I guess some plants like lots of moisture and others don't?

Dagmar :dizzy:

alinnell
07-02-2013, 06:04 PM
I've been given a slight reprieve. It looks as if I'll only need to do one day plus one morning feeding. I'm actually quite relieved. I was up last night dreading the prospect of having to do it for a whole week!

So instead I have to dread telling an insurance salesman no. We have our liability, workers' comp and auto policies with one company and our life insurance with another. Last summer I had to deal with a competitor who wanted our business for the worker's comp (a lot more work than it was worth) and lately our life insurance guy wanted our liability business (and hinted that once he got that he'd get our auto policy). Although his insurance quote was reasonable and slightly less than what we're paying now, I'm of the mindset of "if it's not broke, don't fix it." The rep we're with now is excellent to work with. He and his staff are easy to work with and they're fast. A few months ago DH and I wanted to up our life ins because of the new building. It took them months to get things set up. So I feel bad to tell this guy no but I just worry that we wouldn't get as good a service.

I'm not good at this kind of thing.

traveling michele
07-02-2013, 08:38 PM
Andrea....you sound like my running twin! I just gasp and pant and look like a fool. Dh says I run too fast and burn out too quick. I hate running!

My weight was down a bit today. Hoping I don't jinx it by posting.

Trying to come up with some nice healthy recipes for the fourth. What are y'all making?

bargoo
07-02-2013, 09:02 PM
Andrea....you sound like my running twin! I just gasp and pant and look like a fool. Dh says I run too fast and burn out too quick. I hate running!

My weight was down a bit today. Hoping I don't jinx it by posting.

Trying to come up with some nice healthy recipes for the fourth. What are y'all making?

One of my favorites is tomato mozzarella salad.
Sliced tomatoes
About an equal amount mozzarella balls
A few ripe olives
Vinaigrette dressing
I like to use Girard's Champagne Dressing . Sliced cucumbers could also be added. If you have some Feta Cheese on hand a few sprinkles on top can also be added. This is especially attractive in a clear glass bowl.

neurodoc
07-02-2013, 10:49 PM
Why oh why don't I have a Trader Joe's in my town? The nearest one is a 45 minute drive, and the only time I can justify the time is when we're going to my father-in-law's house for a visit (about every 6 weeks). I am in love with their pre-made salads, dips, marinated meats and the many, many healthy frozen entrees and sides they carry. I could live on their food nonstop for weeks, if only they were closer :>(

Not sure if I already posted this, but since coming home from Greece, it's just me and my oldest DS (almost 15) since middle son is still with DH in Greece and youngest is at "camp grandma" in NJ. I can't believe how much easier he is to deal with when we're alone. No arguments, no complaining, actually made [a healthy] dinner the first night we were home, and has done the dishes and the laundry after a single request (he's home all day while I am at work). I am so encouraged by this, I am practically euphoric.

Unlike some of you, DS and I are invited to my aunt and uncle's for the 4th, so I don't have to do any food prep. Unfortunately, she's threatening to just order pizza and salad, because DS is a vegetarian and she "doesn't know how to cook for him." Thus, even though I don't HAVE to cook, I think I will end up WANTING to cook, so that I can bring with me something to eat other than pizza. Do you think it would be too much of a rebuke if I brought a healthy vegetarian dish that DS will eat (e.g., garbanzo bean-feta-mint-edamame salad)?

traveling michele
07-03-2013, 12:10 AM
That sounds perfectly yummy Andrea! Please make extra for me!

Mudpie
07-03-2013, 05:35 AM
I watched a documentary on the building of the statue of Liberty last night. A "gift" from France (which apparently New Yorkers didn't particularly want :lol:). Interesting. I didn't realize she carried a tablet with the US Independence Day's date on it. I was not able to go inside (post 911 rules) the statue and up to look out of the torch when I did the tour in NYC. That must have been quite a view!

I hope all the Americans have a happy and (mostly) healthy 4th of July tomorrow!

I don't know if the reality baking show I watch is shot in advance and then aired but if not they should be coming up with Independence Day showstoppers tonite. Those should be quite spectacular.

Dagmar :cool:

ChrisMohr
07-03-2013, 08:45 AM
Day two of my "detox" went well, tho I had to use a lot of willpower just to overcome huge sugar cravings. Today will be day three of being back on track and after this it should be easier.

Could some of you please send some of your extra rain to our fire-ravaged Colorado forests? Last week I performed a wedding in southern Colorado: hot, dry, 50 mph winds and smoky. I couldn't use the DJ's microphone cuz of all the wind distortion, and even screaming at the top of my lungs only the first row of guests could hear me. My allergies are usually pretty mild, but on this day my eyes swelled up all red and puffy and I had watery slits for eyes for three days! It's getting a bit better tho with temps going down a bit and some afternoon showers occasionally.

For July 4 Karen and I are celebrating our vegan friend Jude's birthday by cooking up a watermelon/mint dish, quinoa/black bean salad, green salad, maple balsamic tempeh, and a vegan chocolate cake with white tofu mousse with red and blue berries. Who was it who was wondering about bringing a healthy dish to pizza-land? I say bring something tasty and healthy you can eat. I know there are exceptions, but generally I go by the maxim that NOBODY CARES WHAT I EAT... they just want to see me!

Plus, it's past time for me to eat in a way that is different from the crowd anyway.

bargoo
07-03-2013, 09:31 AM
It was 103 degrees here yesterday but I had to go to a funeral and reception in San Leandro and Hayward yesterday, it was 20 degrees cooler there , what a relief ! The reception had the usual acres of yummy food. I tried to use restraint as much as possible. I just had salad which had lots of fresh vegies and oil and vinegar dressing already on it, roast beef, a couple of small pieces of cheese, skipped the sandwich rolls, a small portion of Portuguese Sweet Rice, I love this so limiting my portion is a huge sacrifice and I had a piece of cake.

alinnell
07-03-2013, 09:34 AM
One of my favorite salads is cucumber, red onions, black olives and Greek dressing. Sometimes I throw in some feta or mozzarella, but not usually. I haven't made it for a while. I'll have to do that next week!

DS and I are heading to the dentist this morning for our cleaning, so I'm not going into work until after noon. Not too many chores to take care of this morning, so I'll probably lounge on the couch and read. it'll be another hot and humid day here.

krampus
07-03-2013, 10:48 AM
Andrea, I think you should go for it, as what kind of terrible person would be upset that a guest at their party brought food?

I just booked a trip with reward miles to visit a friend in Chattanooga TN and she wants to go to Aretha Frankenstein's (http://www.arethas.com/). Be still my pre-emptively bulging belly.

Shannon in ATL
07-03-2013, 11:47 AM
Oh Krampus... Wow. That restaurant looks sinful.

Megan1982
07-03-2013, 12:57 PM
Summer continues here. The humidity when I'm out doing field work is really getting to me and my workload is overwhelming. Is it this bad every summer? I feel like it's worse this year and I'm physically exhausted. At any rate I am just treading water right now. Blah blah blah. Only 3 more months of this. I'll get through.

It's been pouring here as well and I doubt we'll have many fireworks. I have to work all weekend so I'm looking forward to the day off tomorrow and hopefully resting. I'm not cooking anything, I refuse to. But I love this grilled veggie salad (http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ellie-krieger/grilled-vegetable-salad-with-feta-and-mint-recipe/index.html) if anyone is looking for a recipe. Happy 4th to my fellow Americans!

paperclippy
07-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Hey folks, I'm still here. Babies are going through a growth spurt which is kind of nuts, but hopefully they'll settle down soon. My parents were here but are gone now. It's nice having my mom around since she cooks me stuff from Cooking Light, which I'm pretty much guaranteed to like, but having my dad around is stressful. Now I've got MIL bringing us food a lot, but to be honest her dietary habits are so different from mine that I'm not as grateful as I should be. (Also, I have time to cook now and I have a fridge full of veggies that need cooking, but despite telling her I was going to cook myself she still brought dinner two nights in a row. I think she's using it as an excuse to see the babies, which would be fine if she would bring food that I actually like, but oh well.)

I'm sort of managing to take a walk most days. My belly is still enormous and I still look pregnant, and the 30lbs I have left are not going anywhere. No dieting for me though because I need to keep up enough milk supply for these two.

CherryPie99
07-03-2013, 09:06 PM
Hey all... I am slinking back here in utter and complete relapse mode.

We just returned from camping. I have eaten so much the last few days it's sickening. Made the mistake of getting on the scale as soon as we got home and it shows me up 12 pounds - 12 - from when we left!!!!

My stomach actually hurts and I CAN'T. STOP. EATING. And even worse I don't want to!

I'm feeling scared and ashamed and utterly pathetic.

I'm reaching out in desperation...

Jen

bargoo
07-03-2013, 09:18 PM
Ask yourself, do I want to start all over ? Do I want to go buy a new wardrobe in larger sizes?
These kind of questions usually get my attention.

neurodoc
07-03-2013, 09:59 PM
Jen, I hear you loud and clear.BTDT, and so far at least, managed to come out the other side each time. One of the things that helps me when I get in the mindset where you are now is to pick something non-food to improve on: get in a good run, drink 64 oz of water, buy and read an issue of Cooking Light, or just post and read some threads on this forum. For me, one good habit breeds another, and I find it much easier to put the brakes on the overeating AFTER I've done some other, easier good-for-me things.

traveling michele
07-03-2013, 10:37 PM
Jen-- I seem to remember you having issues with overeating when traveling before? You came back here. You'll go back to weight loss mode. You'll be back where you want to be in no time. You know it.

Mistake to step on the scale. However, I do it everytime. Almost like punishing yourself??

Hugs to you. You'll be fine.

BillBlueEyes
07-04-2013, 07:10 AM
Sending supportive thoughts to Jen. Also BTDT. I second neurodoc's notion to pick one specific non-food goal for the day to work your way back.

silverbirch
07-04-2013, 07:24 AM
Jen :hug:

I agree about working on a non-food goal to get back into it. I'm working on only eating in an "eating place". Each time I put my food on a reasonably sized plate, relax a bit, look at it, smell it and enjoy it.

ChrisMohr
07-04-2013, 10:04 AM
Wow Jen can I relate! After gaining too much weight and getting caught on a sugar cycle again, I didn't want to come back here at all. I felt like such a phony, not a real maintainer. Watching you come back here, I can see that if you come back, you're a maintainer! And so am I!

When I eat too much, I often am artificially bloated from too much salt and sugar, which causes excess body weight for a day or two. If I eat better that goes down fast and I can see where I really am on the scale.

I for one have a sugar addiction. I really have to be careful. When I fall down, it takes me an average of three days of sheer willpower to overcome the cravings and get back on track. I just went through those three days, my weight has gone down, and I feel I may be OK after all. The help and support from our friends here is invaluable.

Happy Fourth of July everyone! Tonight our vegan friend celebrates her birthday, but two desserts are still on the menu. My promise to myself and everyone here is that I will enjoy my friend and portion-control my sweets.

bargoo
07-04-2013, 10:58 AM
Chris, I understand about sugar. When I eat anything with sugar, my body says more, more, more !

alinnell
07-04-2013, 11:29 AM
Last night DS went with friends to dinner and a movie (Despicable Me) so DH and I decided to go out for dinner. We tried a new(ish) Mexican place not far from us. It was really good and I was very impressed at how fast they were. Normally we wait a good 5 minutes for drinks and chips and then another 20 before dinner arrives. Our drinks were ready in less than 2 minutes and by then we'd decided on our entree so we ordered and the food was there in less than 5 minutes. It sure kept the temptation of the chips at bay! And it was good, too.

I had decided to grill burgers for the 4th, but am second guessing that decision for two reasons. One, it's still hotter than bejeebus here and I don't relish the idea of standing over a hot grill out there when it is 115 degrees! Second, I've got a lot of fresh veggies for certain dishes that I really ought to use before they go bad. So tonight will either be summer lasagna (fresh tomatoes, zucchini and broccoli) or baked egg rolls (cabbage, sprouts, etc.) served with forbidden rice and edamame. Neither are particularly American dishes, but they may have to do!

bargoo
07-04-2013, 11:42 AM
I was thinking hot dogs or Sloppy Joes, neither one diet friendly.

saef
07-04-2013, 12:33 PM
Jessica, it's so good to see you surface from the mayhem of adapting to your twins, especially as they keep chug-a-lugging from you and growing & growing. That's their job for now. And yours is to serve as the Miracle-Gro, I guess. Good on you that you get to take a walk, not just so that you can move, but also so that you get a mental respite and can settle & think a little.

Jen, your plight is calling to mind the way Meghan talks about herself sometimes. She says of these occasions that Fat Meghan somehow broke out of the room where Meghan has locked her. These jail breaks are temporary. They are a reaction to the way we watch ourselves so carefully and live such planned-out lives. When we let ourselves offleash, boy, do we make a run for it. I think you're tired of running and you will come back again and willingly accept the collar & leash.

Allison, I don't care if I'm being un-American, I made a crockpot full of Moroccan chicken thighs. (Yesterday I got saffron threads at Marshall's, of all places. Marked down with a red sticker. Of course, I also picked up a pair of orange capri pants.) I was in the mood for them and the crockpot doesn't heat up the kitchen.

I feel like I'm going to have a good holiday and will catch up on two movies that I've been meaning to see for a couple weeks now.

Mudpie
07-04-2013, 03:48 PM
Silly moment for the day. I bought 3 kid's t shirts from LLBean in a colour they call "sprout". It's not yellow, not green, but it's bright and kinda like the "safety yellow" that is used on the jackets and vests of various civil service folk.

So I brought Doug the Pug back from his walk and popped into the bathroom to use the throne. There is a toddler in the house. I looked down to the left of the throne and saw the toddler's potty - exactly the same colour as my new shirts. :rofl:

Dagmar :sunny:

bargoo
07-04-2013, 04:38 PM
Silly moment for the day. I bought 3 kid's t shirts from LLBean in a colour they call "sprout". It's not yellow, not green, but it's bright and kinda like the "safety yellow" that is used on the jackets and vests of various civil service folk.

So I brought Doug the Pug back from his walk and popped into the bathroom to use the throne. There is a toddler in the house. I looked down to the left of the throne and saw the toddler's potty - exactly the same colour as my new shirts. :rofl:

Dagmar :sunny:

I'm more intrigued by you wearing kid's T Shirts than about the color.

CherryPie99
07-04-2013, 04:58 PM
Thanks so much everyone for being there for me.

Today I'm calmer and more in control. It's always such a relief to know that others have been there done that and have come back from the edge.

I survived 2 things today - first was a barbecue. I was NOT perfect - had some chips - but otherwise had a hamburger with no bun, baked beans, and said NO to carrot cake, lemon bars and crappy *** store bought cookies. Then, since we had been camping, the cupboards were bare, so we had to get some groceries. The bakery department SCREAMED "BUY ME, EAT ME!" - for me it's always bread type items, not really sweets per se - but I stuck to only healthy things.

I also went for a 9 mile run this morning - stepped on the scale (which is always artificially down after a run) and was back "only" 3 pounds over when I left. And yes Michelle - that was part of my "punishment" - looking at the scale when I got home! Crazy, huh?

As always Saef, you hit the nail on the head. I hadn't thought of it in terms of being "off leash" but I did think of it as "The Grand Return of Fat Jen" who makes an appearance here and there, but has not had this much control over "thinner Jen" in a VERY long time. She is hanging in there for dear life, but for today, "thinner Jen" is pulling ahead in the race at least for today.

Dinner = Mahi Mahi, corn on the cob and a salad.

Thanks again everyone, I appreciate it so much.

Jen

Mudpie
07-04-2013, 05:00 PM
bargoo The largest size of kid's t shirts (16-18 I think) fits me beautifully. The boys shirts are well made and last several seasons and they are much cheaper than adult's shirts.

Dagmar :dizzy:

neurodoc
07-05-2013, 08:08 AM
124.2 on the scale both on Wed. and this morning. That's 3 pounds less than before I left for Greece. Given that I couldn't lose an ounce on my home diet at 1200 cal/day for over a month, I consider this nothing short of miraculous. The biggest differences? Full-fat yogurt, lots of olive oil on/in everything and no snacks of any kind between meals. Absolutely no formal exercise whatsoever, and truth be told, on many days I didn't even get in a lot of walking (we did a LOT of driving, and took ferries between islands which would take a big chunk out of the day). Not sure what conclusions to draw from this "experiment," but maybe I'll start buying real yogurt and cottage cheese (instead of the fat-free kind) and not be so afraid of buying foods packed in oil.

bargoo
07-05-2013, 08:31 AM
Andrea, congratulations on the loss ! Regarding foods packed in oil I always get tuna packed in oil, I think tuna packed in water is tasteless.

ChrisMohr
07-05-2013, 09:31 AM
Congrats Andrea! I'm not too afraid of fat either, maybe it's just cuz I'm not addicted to it so it doesn't trigger an eating cycle.

Whew Jen congrats to both of us for finding our way back on track. That's not easy but the support of friends here helps more than I can say.

I enjoyed a nice dinner last night with 1 1/2 slices of chocolate cake (not great but within reason for a holiday). Today I continue the weight loss pattern I've started to get back to my ideal summer weight of 185.

I think about how I started up all the negative dietary patterns again (secrecy, despair, compulsive eating of sugar/chocolate, not weighing myself, etc.) and how with a little support from y'all and I was able to eat more honestly again. I was reminded of a famous conversation with a monk. When asked what he and his fellow monks did at their monastery, he said, "We fall down, we get back up again, we fall down, get back up again..." Some of us seem to be able to styay very steady with maintenance, I'm more like that monk, but somehow I keep stumbling forward!

Mudpie
07-05-2013, 10:37 AM
Congrats Andrea! I'm not too afraid of fat either, maybe it's just cuz I'm not addicted to it so it doesn't trigger an eating cycle.

Whew Jen congrats to both of us for finding our way back on track. That's not easy but the support of friends here helps more than I can say.

I enjoyed a nice dinner last night with 1 1/2 slices of chocolate cake (not great but within reason for a holiday). Today I continue the weight loss pattern I've started to get back to my ideal summer weight of 185.

I think about how I started up all the negative dietary patterns again (secrecy, despair, compulsive eating of sugar/chocolate, not weighing myself, etc.) and how with a little support from y'all and I was able to eat more honestly again. I was reminded of a famous conversation with a monk. When asked what he and his fellow monks did at their monastery, he said, "We fall down, we get back up again, we fall down, get back up again..." Some of us seem to be able to styay very steady with maintenance, I'm more like that monk, but somehow I keep stumbling forward!

I hear you on the negative eating patterns Chris. I think all of us probably do our "bad" eating in secret, yes? I know I for one, even though my DH is very overweight and unfit, would never, ever want him to see me scarf down a dozen of those huge cookies in 20 minutes. Nor would I want him to see me cramming sugar into my mouth from the bowl with a tablespoon. To me those things seem bizzare and crazy. But none of us are crazy - we just react to food differently than other folks. So it's good to come here and describe our "sins" because we know almost everyone else here has something they are ashamed of too. Helps to know we're not alone in our "food fetishes".

Dagmar :dizzy:

ICUwishing
07-05-2013, 10:38 AM
Alrighty, I am finally getting off "lurk"!

Top moments from the Danube cruise, first:
1. Had a "top 3 lifetime" meal at a new restaurant in Budapest - they referred to themselves as "Hungarian experimental". I'll attach when I get it compressed properly. I had the trout, DS went with catfish, DH had wild boar cheeks, and my mom had the lamb. On a scale of 1-10, the experience was a 14.
2. Watching DS learn to waltz in the arms of a soprano from the Vienna Opera, after dinner at Palais Pallavicini in Vienna.
3. Listening to Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor played in private concert on the world's largest cathedral-based pipe organ, St. Stephens Cathedral in Passau, Germany, from the organ nest.

Like Andrea, I ate very differently and in greater amounts - and saw no scale punishment at all. I don't have a big sweet tooth, so I generally tasted the pastries to be polite. Sausage, however, made up a far bigger part of my meals. And gravlax, one of my all-time favorite foods, was consumed at almost every breakfast. Cheese also figured prominently. :chin: There are things to be learned from this.

When we got home, we found out that both of Paul's parents had had a health crisis while we were gone - his mom caught a nasty viral bug that led to 4 days of hospital stay, followed by his dad, one day after her release, experiencing a side effect of Coumadin that was unusual and serious enough that he was airlifted to U of M again. Two days later, he was out. And on Wednesday, my grandma passed away.

I've been having some trouble getting back in the groove too, since I got back. I seem to have had a rebound weight gain of some sort - was up to 155.5 this morning, which shocked me back into line. :eek: 4 pounds AFTER a cruise? Ahem.

bargoo
07-05-2013, 10:46 AM
Chris, Dagmar I am a secret eater, too. I have known this for years. I learned this years ago at work, when I refused food offered by coworkers and when no one was around scarfed the same food offerings down. A couple of weeks ago I was at the grocery checkout line and of course staring at the candy display. They had Mounds Bars and Milky Way Bars on sale. Did I cave ? Yep. I went home and stuffed those things in my mouth as if I would get arrested if found in my possession. That is not an enjoyable way to enjoy a treat. I am definitely addicted to sugar and find it best to keep it at a minimum , sometimes I fail.

ICUwishing
07-05-2013, 11:12 AM
Count me in on the "sneak-eater" club. My weight since 2008 is usually little more than a reflection of the frequency that I let it happen.

saef
07-05-2013, 11:52 AM
124.2 on the scale both on Wed. and this morning. That's 3 pounds less than before I left for Greece. Given that I couldn't lose an ounce on my home diet at 1200 cal/day for over a month, I consider this nothing short of miraculous. The biggest differences? Full-fat yogurt, lots of olive oil on/in everything and no snacks of any kind between meals. Absolutely no formal exercise whatsoever, and truth be told, on many days I didn't even get in a lot of walking (we did a LOT of driving, and took ferries between islands which would take a big chunk out of the day). Not sure what conclusions to draw from this "experiment," but maybe I'll start buying real yogurt and cottage cheese (instead of the fat-free kind) and not be so afraid of buying foods packed in oil.

Okay, this story sounded so familiar that it sent me to a Lyle McDonald article about a woman who couldn't lose weight till she went on vacation and stopped dieting & exercising. Let me hasten to add that I don't think you resemble this woman -- whom McDonald calls "nuts" but I call an eating disorder sufferer. But the situation called the story to mind.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

alinnell
07-05-2013, 12:00 PM
Sorry for your loss, Becky.

Congrats for your loss, Andrea. (Different losses, of course.)

I'm fumbling. I've not been doing anything different except perhaps adding a few fresh fruits here and there (blueberries in Greek yogurt for breakfast and a nectarine at lunch) and yesterday my shorts were uncomfortably tight. This morning I see that my scale is showing a 3 pound gain. This after nearly 5 days of an inexplicable loss. I don't know what happened.

We're taking somewhat of a four-day weekend. Yesterday was the holiday of course. Today DH did have to go to the office for an hour or so because there were a few of our guys who actually wanted to work, so he took the time to get them organized for the day. I have to go pick up payroll in a little bit, but there's no hurry for that. Afterwards, we'll hit Costco and Plummers where we'll order a new loveseat/chair combination for our family room. Our current set is too worn out. Unbelievable that furniture (leather!) can wear out in less than 10 years, but I guess it's due to us using this stuff daily it can happen. The living room furniture is the same age and except for some damage from the cats, it is like new.

saef
07-05-2013, 12:07 PM
My boss has sent me three emails already this morning, inquiring after various subjects, and I promised I'd get my section of a PowerPoint presentation completed by close of business. So, to me, yesterday's Fourth of July holiday was a cruel tease. I'm struggling mightily with attention deficit today.

bargoo
07-05-2013, 02:06 PM
Becky, sorry to hear of your Grandma's passing.

Mudpie
07-05-2013, 07:10 PM
Becky, sorry to hear of your Grandma's passing.

Becky :hug:. She was 97 (I think you said) but from what you posted I think she enjoyed much of that long, long lifespan. I hope you can relive and enjoy all the good times you spent with her.

Dagmar

saef
07-05-2013, 08:55 PM
When we got home, we found out that both of Paul's parents had had a health crisis while we were gone - his mom caught a nasty viral bug that led to 4 days of hospital stay, followed by his dad, one day after her release, experiencing a side effect of Coumadin that was unusual and serious enough that he was airlifted to U of M again. Two days later, he was out. And on Wednesday, my grandma passed away.

Becky, that was well-hidden in your words, but not in your heart.

I, too, am sorry to hear this. I liked the sound of this woman. We could've used her here on the board as a consultant.

Megan1982
07-06-2013, 10:39 AM
Jen, your plight is calling to mind the way Meghan talks about herself sometimes. She says of these occasions that Fat Meghan somehow broke out of the room where Meghan has locked her. These jail breaks are temporary. They are a reaction to the way we watch ourselves so carefully and live such planned-out lives. When we let ourselves offleash, boy, do we make a run for it. I think you're tired of running and you will come back again and willingly accept the collar & leash.

It's true. Sometimes Fit Megan has to wrestle Fat Megan into submission. It can take a few days. Other times FM comes slinking home. More and more often the return to routine and sanity of lean proteins and plentiful veggies is a welcome relief to both of these crazy creatures running around in my head.

Speaking of schedule and routine, I would love to have that right now. Unpaid overtime stinks. The weather is still terrible and the dog and I once again got poured on when we tried to go for a walk this morning. I was really looking forward to the exercise. Alright, whining concluded. :stress:

Becky, I'm so sorry for your loss. :hug:

Hope people are having a good weekend.

saef
07-06-2013, 11:36 AM
Megan, you know, when I wrote your name, I **knew** I spelled it wrong, but I couldn't remember if it was Meagan or Meaghan or Meghan. And it was none of those -- it was the simplest spelling possible, nothing so elaborate as I made it in my head. Which is just how I roll -- I don't seem to err on the side of simplicity.

Anyway I am so glad you chimed in about this, because it's such a memorable metaphor for how we're so divided in ourselves about our wants & needs.

I'm feeling slightly cocky this morning, despite the heat wave. I have overcome the disappointment and sorrow caused to me, personally, by the Great Trader Joe's Almond Butter Shortage: The repeated sight of completely empty shelves near the peanut butter and the evil cookie butter where the almond butter should be. The indignity of having to be on a waiting list and being limited to three jars per purchase. Heck with that. I finally poured a bag of roasted unsalted almonds into my food processor and made my own. Turned out great. The only issue was the perennial cake-batter-and-frosting-like problem of scraping it out and doing an awful lot of licking from the processor container and the scraping tool. I'm trying to tell myself that's a natural reaction and not Bad Behavior on My Part.

Mudpie
07-06-2013, 02:48 PM
saef What, please, is cookie butter?

Dagmar :?:

silverbirch
07-06-2013, 03:23 PM
Thanks for asking, Dagmar. I can't imagine.

BillBlueEyes
07-06-2013, 03:30 PM
For those who can't wait, TRADER JOE'S BEST SELLING SPECULOOS COOKIE BUTTER (http://www.amazon.com/Trader-Joes-Speculoos-Cookie-Butter/dp/B006KK4GUO)

One review should serve as warning:I read on a blog that people were offering to trade a jar of this for certain "personal favors". I must admit that it made me buy a jar at checkout, and the claerk smiled at me and said, "You'll be back. You should have bought a case!" Well, she was right, I did go back because this is like peanut butter with crushed up ginger snaps mixed in. I ate half a jar at the first sitting, and my wife asked me to hide it. It is that good!

silverbirch
07-06-2013, 04:21 PM
Speculoos - that's the name of small (say, < 1" x 2.5") packaged biscuits you get with cups of coffee in some places. Like Belgium and some places in Britain which think they're smart. I don't like them as they're very industrialised, in my view. I can see how someone saw a opportunity for so-called added value. I think I can body-swerve this cookie butter stuff, should I ever see it.

I'm quite amazed.

bargoo
07-06-2013, 04:59 PM
safe, you can order cookie butter from Amazon. I have never had them but am sure I would devour a jar at one sitting, best that I stay away from them.

saef
07-06-2013, 05:11 PM
No, Bargoo, I will never order cookie butter. It's almond butter I want. But every time I went to Trader Joe's, they were completely out and the space allotted to almond butter shrank. Meantime the space for the evil cookie butter grew & grew. Confirming for me that Trader Joe's business model has changed over time to turn it from a purveyor of decently priced healthy foods to a yuppie version of 7-11 for snack foods and microwave dinners.

But I've made my own almond butter and I am free now. I don't care if they discontinue almond butter and even peanut butter and sell only cookie butter forevermore.

bargoo
07-06-2013, 06:08 PM
Never had almond butter, either. I have enough trouble battling peanut butter.

Megan1982
07-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Have you ever flown on a Delta flight and gotten the Biscoff cookies they hand out? They make a Biscoff spread. It's really tasty, but it's totally junk food, and as calorie dense as a nut butter. I like the cookies better anyway, and they're relegated to my occasional Delta flight every other year or so. Trader Joe's made a knockoff of the Biscoff spread.

Shannon in ATL
07-07-2013, 12:08 AM
Becky- I'm sorry about your grandmother. It does sound like she lived a fantastic life, but I know that you will miss her.

Saef -I love almond butter, but have oddly never gotten it at Trader Joes's. I always got mine at Costco. Why the shortage at Trader Joe's?

Megan -unpaid overtime does suck. Sorry. :( The rain here is making us crazy. I need it to slow down just a little.

I've exercised every day for seven days now, counting todays five miles of walking around downtown as informal exercise. Food has been good for close to two weeks. I'm seeing very little scale movement, but I feel like I look better. We'll see what the scale says tomorrow.

dstalksalot
07-07-2013, 02:05 AM
Scale continues to drop although I thought I was pretty much in maintenance. Down 2.5 -3 pounds since I started this part about 4 weeks ago. I would not worry about it but I feel like I am skinny fat and want to improve my muscles not shrink more boobage. My waste measurements have been the same for a few months.

Prayers are with you Becky. Strength be yours!!

Trader Joes is evil ...too many good things. I have never tried the almond butter but my kids have tasted the cookie butter and raved about it. I should not try it :-)

Mudpie
07-07-2013, 05:13 AM
I've exercised every day for seven days now, counting todays five miles of walking around downtown as informal exercise. Food has been good for close to two weeks. I'm seeing very little scale movement, but I feel like I look better. We'll see what the scale says tomorrow.

Who cares what the scale :shrug: says Shannon? You have been practising healthy habits for 2 weeks - that's something to :cheer: about!

You Rock!

Dagmar :cheer2:

Mudpie
07-07-2013, 05:25 AM
Speculoos - that's the name of small (say, < 1" x 2.5") packaged biscuits you get with cups of coffee in some places. Like Belgium and some places in Britain which think they're smart. I don't like them as they're very industrialised, in my view. I can see how someone saw a opportunity for so-called added value. I think I can body-swerve this cookie butter stuff, should I ever see it.

I'm quite amazed.

"Industrialised" - I like that term Silverbirch. Maybe it's my monitor but looking at that link :devil: that Bill provided I don't like the colour and wouldn't want to eat the cookie butter. I do love gingersnaps but I prefer to buy (when I very infrequently enter a local coffee shop) one of the large homebaked gingersnaps they sell there.

I'm finding, for myself, that more and more I don't like processed food :barf: with a bunch of additives. My once beloved potato chips and other crisps of this nature would now fit the term "industrialised". I never was one for "fast food", except for the occasional burger, but I tend to cringe now when seeing adverts on TV for the various things like KFC, DQ, etc. To me they look so fake that I can't imagine eating them.

Although this makes me sound like some kind of locavore foodie snob I'm finding I really DO prefer food that comes a little more from the farm and less from the factory. I wish I could afford to buy more at farmer's markets or organically grown. I think the $20 per week I'm going to save on e drinks will go towards that end. I'll go to the local farmer's market and get $20 worth of produce from someone who GREW it!

Dagmar :dizzy:

BillBlueEyes
07-07-2013, 07:26 AM
This is terrible. I can't get SPECULOOS COOKIE BUTTER out of my mind. Partially because 'speculoos' is such a delicious new word for me.

So, after the post by silverbirch, I've googled 'speculoos' to discover that my favorite cookie is a variety of the original - the spicy flat shortbread cookie called 'Windmills' (https://www.google.com/search?q=windmill+cookies&rlz=1C1RNBN_enUS459US459&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Ok7ZUYX3MOq0iwKWkoGIDA&ved=0CEoQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=620&sei=a07ZUbKrHbHAiwKwkIDYCQ). (Warning: behind that link is food porn.) Perhaps I'll start referring to them as speculoos to sound British which is locally interpreted as sophisticated.

DW was slightly bemused that I introduced "cookie butter" to dinner conversation. She made it clear that if any came into the house it was all mine. I've now added to my Bucket List to taste the stuff without buying a whole jar.

Mudpie
07-07-2013, 07:57 AM
This is terrible. I can't get SPECULOOS COOKIE BUTTER out of my mind. Partially because 'speculoos' is such a delicious new word for me.

So, after the post by silverbirch, I've googled 'speculoos' to discover that my favorite cookie is a variety of the original - the spicy flat shortbread cookie called 'Windmills' (https://www.google.com/search?q=windmill+cookies&rlz=1C1RNBN_enUS459US459&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Ok7ZUYX3MOq0iwKWkoGIDA&ved=0CEoQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=620&sei=a07ZUbKrHbHAiwKwkIDYCQ). (Warning: behind that link is food porn.) Perhaps I'll start referring to them as speculoos to sound British which is locally interpreted as sophisticated.

DW was slightly bemused that I introduced "cookie butter" to dinner conversation. She made it clear that if any came into the house it was all mine. I've now added to my Bucket List to taste the stuff without buying a whole jar.

We don't have Trader Joe's (or it's equivalent) up here but do they hand out samples Bill? Sometimes our grocery chains have people set up with tiny spoons and crackers and various products for shoppers to taste. You could cross that one off the bucket list if Trader Joe's does this.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=speculaas+cookies&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=c1bZUZWQDsekqAHwtoGICw&ved=0CFEQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=653

Up here these are called "speculaas". The ones the chains sell are not shortbread. I am a gingersnap, bread, boy, cake, fan and I find most of the grocery store versions to be edible but not very spicy. And they tend to leave an oily mouthfeel after you eat them.

Dagmar :drool:

silverbirch
07-07-2013, 08:44 AM
Perhaps I'll start referring to them as speculoos to sound British which is locally interpreted as sophisticatedr.

That's right, of course! Generally. I'm not sure how many people here would know "speculoos" though. I do because I read all packaging in whatever language - just to be sure. (We all do that, don't we?) Bill, you're a grownup so you can make your own decisions but, should you get hooked, just think about the "loos" angle.

Must get back to sawing up wood, sophisticatedly, in the garden. The DB and I are clearing space and preparing kindling for winter. We may put in raised beds in a bid to see off the slugs and snails just a little bit.

Mudpie
07-07-2013, 09:43 AM
That's right, of course! Generally. I'm not sure how many people here would know "speculoos" though. I do because I read all packaging in whatever language - just to be sure. (We all do that, don't we?) Bill, you're a grownup so you can make your own decisions but, should you get hooked, just think about the "loos" angle.

Must get back to sawing up wood, sophisticatedly, in the garden. The DB and I are clearing space and preparing kindling for winter. We may put in raised beds in a bid to see off the slugs and snails just a little bit.

Slugs and snails will happily (I imagine) drown themselves in a saucer of beer. I am totally squeamish about slugs and employ a much more terrible :eek: thing to eliminate them.

Dagmar :witch2:

bargoo
07-07-2013, 10:08 AM
Slugs and snails will happily (I imagine) drown themselves in a saucer of beer. I am totally squeamish about slugs and employ a much more terrible :eek: thing to eliminate them.

Dagmar :witch2:

I have a terrible instrument to eliminate them, one by one, it is at the end of my leg and has five toes and it is my foot.
The foot is used for snails, slugs get a good shake from the salt shaker, I am ruthless.
PS even with all my weapons of destruction they still win.

saef
07-07-2013, 10:29 AM
Bill, I blame myself: You never would have craved or wanted the stuff if I hadn't informed you that it existed. Not good. We sound like a support group for people recovering from substance abuse in which a former drug addict makes a former alcoholic decide that heroin sounds rather appealing.

While Atlanta is drenched in rain, New York feels like Georgia, sweltering with heat & humidity. I cannot bear the idea of standing on a subway platform in this, so now that I'm back from the gym, I'll probably linger in my apartment today with the air conditioning going. I don't much like the idea of ironing, but it's got to be done, and then there's silver polishing (which I should've taken care of before yesterday's manicure) and other household tasks that I can catch up on. We need a term for it like snowbound: Heatbound.

CherryPie99
07-07-2013, 01:21 PM
We don't have a Trader Joe's anywhere near us so I've never been in one - maybe that's a good thing!!

Since my post-camping meltdown I'm doing MUCH better. I've gotten my eating almost completely under control (although Fat Jen's voice is still pretty loud in my head). I weighed in at 120.6 this morning - still 2 pounds over when I left, but only .6 above my redline, so I'm pretty hopeful that some more will come off in the next couple days.

I am LOVING the heat and humidity - sorry to those that hate it. Headed out the door this morning intending on a 10 mile run and instead did 13 because it felt so good.

My veggie garden is free of snails and slugs, but there is a certain weed that just grows like CRAZY. It seems like a never ending battle. BUT, my squash plants have their first flowers on them, and so do the snow peas, and the corn is about 4.5 feet high so it won't be long before we have some wonderful fresh veggies! Makes the hours of weeding worth it.

Jen

ChrisMohr
07-07-2013, 05:29 PM
Sooo... I had three good days, a day where I chose to eat a reasonable amount of chocolate cake at a birthday gathering, then... a stumble the next day with some cruddy candy. But today I am pretty confident I am back on track. Well, maybe not totally6 confident, but I'll eat right today whether I aqm confident or not...

Mudpie
07-07-2013, 06:10 PM
Sooo... I had three good days, a day where I chose to eat a reasonable amount of chocolate cake at a birthday gathering, then... a stumble the next day with some cruddy candy. But today I am pretty confident I am back on track. Well, maybe not totally6 confident, but I'll eat right today whether I aqm confident or not...

That's what maintenance is about - keeping the yo yo on a short string.

I am now on day 7 without the energy drinks and I'm finding I finally am not feeling beat :faint: in the evenings. Now I'm just :tired:.

I feel like I should have one food/drink vice allowed to me though - sugar's gone, alcohol is gone, ice cream is pretty much gone, and now caffeine too? :tantrum: So what will the remaining indulgence be?

Dagmar :p

bargoo
07-07-2013, 06:54 PM
Chris, Dagmar , this is what I, a confirmed sugarholic do. I know I dare not have an entire pie or cake in the house as I have no willpower. When I go to do my grocery shopping, usually once a week. I buy one piece of cake, one , but the important thing there is just one. I allow that once a week it is usually about $3 and a good size piece, lots of calories, no doubt, but one is all I can have and since I have only one that takes care of it.
One slice not one cake !!

BillBlueEyes
07-07-2013, 08:33 PM
Gotta post this tonight on this week's cookie porn thread so I don't drag this into the next week.

I nabbed the first Brit I could lay my hands on this morning.
Me: "Do you know the word 'Speculoos'?

Brit: "Oh, Yes, it's a Belgium biscuit - or cookie to you."

Me: "When was the last time you heard that word?"

Brit: "Yesterday at Costco. They were handing out samples. Quite good actually. Can't chat now, I'm off to watch Wimbledon - we invented tennis but haven't won in 77 years."
So, my new word is being handed out as FREE samples at Costco. Maybe it's been here all along and I've just missed it.

And by-the-by Congrats to the British and Andy Murray for the first British win since 1936.

alinnell
07-07-2013, 08:48 PM
Yes! Congrats to Andy Murray! And I always steer away from the food vendors at Costco--but perhaps if I hunt this particular one out I'll be able to sample without having to buy a whole jar!

saef
07-07-2013, 09:13 PM
Trying desperately to bring some abstemiousness and health back to this thread:

Andrea, you mentioned a chickpea-edamame-mint-feta salad the other day, as a thing you might bring to a 4th of July celebration, and my ears pricked up, because someone just gave me mint from her garden & I have the other ingredients on hand.

Is this similar to your recipe, or do you use another one?

http://www.organicsoul.com/roasted-chickpea-edamame-and-mint-salad/

neurodoc
07-07-2013, 09:31 PM
Hello everyone. Another weekend coming to a close. I am sad because tomorrow brings with it the resumption of normal workaday life for me (I got home from vaca June 30, but this past week the clinic and office were deserted and the University gave us both Thurs and Fri off, so I had a 4 day weekend).

Saef, the only recipes I follow to the letter are ones for baking, and I usually wing it with things like salad. The chick pea-feta-edamame-mint thing is a concoction I invented myself but I admit the recipe you linked to is fairly similar, minus the roasting. Substitute quartered artichoke hearts for the cranberries, balsamic vinegar (2 tbsp, not 1) for the lemon juice, and add a generous Tbsp of chopped fresh chives to the whole, and I think you've got it.

I love love love almond butter, thus have refused to have it in the house for a long time. It was one of my top binge foods when I was having such a hard time curbing my evening snacking a couple of months ago. For the record, my local health food store makes the stuff freshly ground, along with peanut and cashew butters, all available in smooth and crunchy versions. As for cookie butter, it goes in the same category for me as Nutella - to be used for baking/parties and kid treats, but not for regular consumption.

Still holding steady at 124 on approx. 1500 cal/day. Of course, it's been only a week since I've been able to resume calorie counting, and today was a touch over (had a bowl of oatmeal with almonds and blueberries after dinner, for dessert).

traveling michele
07-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Dagmar.... Sometimes I feel quite boring without any vices! I do drink tea and coffee but only minimally. Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Break out in song!

Still struggling mightily with keeping my eating at bay. My daughters are here with all the stress they bring. Dh was trying to fly to Beijing out of San Francisco. I dropped him off at 9:00 am. His flight was delayed and then eventually cancelled. They have rebooked him on China Air and that flight keeps getting delayed. It's after 7:00 pm and he still hasn't left. Hopefully I won't have to go back and get him!

Dd and I are going to Houston on Saturday. She wants to try juicing when she gets there so we are going to both try it. She will probably replace one or two meals a day with a juice...mostly veggies. Anyone try juicing before?

bargoo
07-07-2013, 10:47 PM
Michele. Yes, I have done juicing but I gave my juicer away when I moved. I am regretting that decision, now and am thinking about getting another juicer. I most often started with carrots and apples and then added whatever vegies I had on hand, beets, cucumbers, whatever I had. I would usually do it once a day.