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carolr3639
05-20-2013, 02:18 PM
Time for a new thread. Eat when you're hungry, stop when statisfied


carolr3639
05-20-2013, 02:23 PM
A repeat that helps me.

This is a guest post written by Skwigg. This girl is a walking dictionary of food and nutrition facts, has read and tried MULTIPLE fitness plans, and every time I check, she’s read another “hot of the press” diet book. And, she tells it like it is.

skwigg

Well, it took like 25 years of trial and error, but I am a happy eater. I follow no rules. I count no calories. I’m completely over nutrient ratios, meal timing and measuring cups. Plus, as an added bonus, I’m not fat. Any time I’ve flirted with this “intuitive eating” stuff before, I’ve quickly become too fat for my little pants. This time I’m gradually losing. I’m 5’8″ and weigh 135-137 most days. I don’t know my percentage of body fat. It’s possible that I’m losing muscle and brains. I’m not concerned enough to get out the calipers. My Tanita scale tells me that I’m between 14% and 24% body fat. Helpful, eh? It’s like asking a Magic 8 Ball. The readout may as well say “Concentrate and ask again.” Or “Signs point to yes.” All I know is that my yoga pants are loose! Woohoo!

So, why did intuitive eating work this time when it’s destroyed my abs so many times before? I’ve been trying to figure that out. I know that in the past I’ve used intuitive eating as an excuse to binge. I’d turn to it after a bout of really restrictive dieting, or when I couldn’t face my nutrition software, or when I wasn’t accountable to a trainer. My “intuition” would tell me to eat boxes of glazed donuts and sheets of cookies. I’d gain weight, scoff at the total lameness of this “embrace your inner cow” intuitive hoody-hoo, and go right back to obsessive dieting, tracking and measuring. I wrote down every single thing I ate or drank for TWO YEARS. That was not fun, and actually not helpful.

I’m more relaxed now. I don’t make food decisions from a place of frustration and panic. My intuition really likes strawberries. I eat chocolate every day. I like bagels. I like to eat out. I’m not limiting myself to dieter food but I’m very aware of portions. I eat one Cadbury Egg, not six. I eat mini-bagels, not those bakery bagels the size of my head. I understand that a typical restaurant serving is enough to feed four people.

Last time I tried intuitive eating, portion control was my downfall. I believed those books that said to eat as many cookies as I wanted and that eventually I wouldn’t want as many. Right!! Weeks later, I still wanted every cookie that had ever been baked. I was reeling out of control on a blood sugar rollercoaster. The more junk I ate, the more junk I wanted. I was never able to pull it together enough to even maintain my weight, much less lose.

Some things that really helped me this time:

- I weigh myself every day. If you’re not going to count calories or measure your food, you’d better be keeping an eye on something. It could be weight, waist measurement, a caliper pinch, a pair of jeans, but you need some kind of objective feedback. If you choose not to track your food and not to look at any of your measurements, then you’d better go buy some fat pants.

- I eat what I want but I always control portions. Generally, the more I want something, the more I need to watch out. I can play fast and loose with spinach but I’d better take my ice cream in a single-serving container.

- I share. I never used to share before. Sharing is the greatest thing ever! You get to eat whatever you want and make everyone around you fat. Try it! Order the double-fudge super cookie dough caramel delight. Eat three bites and watch your dining companions devour the rest of it like hungry hyenas. Share your French fries. Split the sandwich. Order three tacos and only eat one of them. It’s exhilarating! Plus, I always have great leftovers.

- I strike a nice balance of healthy food and treats. You can’t eat an all-treat diet and look or feel very good. I eat loads of fresh fruits and vegetables every day. I love whole grains. I eat nuts and seeds like I’m a squirrel. I’m a sucker for a big salad. I enjoy lean protein as long as it’s not forced upon me every 2-3 hours. I eat a lot of healthy whole foods but I like to add a Pop Tart or Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup for good measure.

- I don’t eat six times per day, or three times per day, or three meals and two snacks. I don’t follow anybody else’s rules because how does the book or the calculator know what I’m doing or when I’m going to be hungry? It doesn’t. So, I eat when I feel like it. On an active, hungry day I might eat 5-6 times. On a lazy day with restaurant food, I might eat 2-3 times. I’m no longer dumb enough try to force three more meals after lunch at The Cheesecake Factory.

- I grasp the importance of good nutrition. I’m not knocking diet plans or nutrition programs, especially if you’re trying to achieve a sports performance or body comp goal. A little bit of structure can be good. I base my eating on the healthy principles I’ve learned but I don’t allow myself to become a slave to the details. And don’t believe that I can eat as many cookies as I want and still lose weight. Big derrrr there!

- I flow. That’s significant because I used to battle. I battled my weight. I struggled with willpower. I waged a war against fat. I fought with the numbers. I kicked myself when I slipped. My mindset was one big bloody massacre. My fitness goals were always at odds with what I really wanted, which was to relax and eat Cheetos. Now, if I want to relax and eat Cheetos, I do so immediately. No struggle. No stress. No guilt. I know that for my next meal I’ll choose something a little more ab-friendly.

PreciousMissy
05-20-2013, 02:57 PM
Thanks for starting a new thread! I didn't realize we were over 500.


surfergirl2
05-20-2013, 04:37 PM
This is a small victory, but i don't think it's ever happened before. You know those snack-size bags of chips? Well, i always thought they were so small they weren't even worth eating. Seriously. I would want at least 3 little bags at a time! Well yesterday, i ate one bag and didn't feel like i needed another one.

carolr3639
05-20-2013, 04:50 PM
Well yesterday, i ate one bag and didn't feel like i needed another one.Wonderful!

the shiv
05-21-2013, 10:14 AM
This is a small victory, but i don't think it's ever happened before. You know those snack-size bags of chips? Well, i always thought they were so small they weren't even worth eating. Seriously. I would want at least 3 little bags at a time! Well yesterday, i ate one bag and didn't feel like i needed another one.

This is awesome :D That "I can take it or leave it" feeling is amazing :D :hug:

PreciousMissy
05-21-2013, 01:01 PM
This is a small victory, but i don't think it's ever happened before. You know those snack-size bags of chips? Well, i always thought they were so small they weren't even worth eating. Seriously. I would want at least 3 little bags at a time! Well yesterday, i ate one bag and didn't feel like i needed another one.

Way to go surfergirl!!! I think that is a tremendous victory!

I have a feeling today is going to be an unusual day for me, eating wise. I'm pretty much down to 2 meals a day. I typically eat a large lunch around 10-11:30 and then dinner around 6:30-8. I can already tell today is going to be a hungry day. I don't know if it's true hunger or if it's stress/emotional eating, but I have no intention of fighting it. I've noticed, in the past, if I fight something too much then I just go overboard. I'm going to handle today just as it needs to be handled and tomorrow is another day.

It might help my mood if I get my radio station to something a little more upbeat :dizzy:

Truffle
05-22-2013, 08:30 AM
One thing that I read recently is that when we are at peace with food and aren't concerned with deprivation of dieting when eating with friends, we can focus more on the fellowship with the friends and enjoy what we want of the food available and we probably not have a tendency to overeat. When I read that, I thought about how I do when I eat at church fellowship meetings. I enjoy walking around and visiting with the people and I realized that I end up eating only if they have what I really like and most of the time I don't eat much. There are times when I don't eat at a meeting because there just isn't anything there that I want to eat.

This is a good point, Trish. I always tell my husband that if I had to eat at church potlucks all the time, I'd be a TOOTHPICK.

That's because I am very squeamish about eating food that I don't know how sanitary the kitchen or cook were that prepared the food. I hate eating at restaurants for the same reason.

I have to force myself to eat at church potlucks, because the whole time I'm wondering about the cleanliness of the kitchen for each of the foods on my plate.

That's weird, I know, but just the way I've always been.

I was once helping set up for a church meal years ago and the pastor was cooking a huge pot of spaghetti sauce. When I saw him stick his BARE HAND AND ARM up to the elbow in the pot to stir the sauce, I nearly gagged, and wasn't able to eat a single bite of the spaghetti.

PreciousMissy
05-22-2013, 10:21 AM
Hello all!

Yesterday was unusual as I predicted. Part of me wonders if it was a self fulfilling prophecy. I have noticed lately that I've missed the sensation of eating. I'm not necessarily hungry, but I have the desire to eat. I guess I should research and find out why.

I think today is going to be a different day though! Since I ate every time the mood struck me yesterday I don't feel like I'm missing anything right now. Eating doesn't have much appeal at the moment.

carolr3639
05-22-2013, 11:20 AM
When I saw him stick his BARE HAND AND ARM up to the elbow in the pot to stir the sauce, I nearly gagged, and wasn't able to eat a single bite of the spaghetti.Woah!

PreciousMissy
05-23-2013, 11:25 AM
Yesterday certainly was the complete opposite of Tuesday! I didn't eat until 3 p.m., which ended up being a yummy wonton soup! Then later last night I had a few slices of corned beef.

I felt a little hungry this morning, but after a couple of cups of coffee I'm feeling a bit more "meh, I'll eat later" about it.

And Becky, I completely missed the spaghetti story yesterday...now I really don't want to eat haha! What a visual!!!

BigSky
05-23-2013, 01:38 PM
How do you start doing this "intuitive eating" stuff? Can someone lead me to a thread, website, or book to learn more about this? I am interested but don't know where to start. Thanks

carolr3639
05-23-2013, 03:08 PM
The Overfead Head by Rob Stevens.

lunarsongbird
05-23-2013, 04:46 PM
I'm also of the Tribole tribe- http://www.intuitiveeating.org/content/what-intuitive-eating

PreciousMissy
05-23-2013, 04:59 PM
BigSky - If you Google the book that Carolr3936 mentioned and add .pdf you can find a copy to read. Lunar's link also has some great information, too.

I've learned a lot from just this thread on it's own. I love intuitive eating...love, love, love it. I will admit, it took me a while to get use to it. The biggest thing for me was learning to be ok with being hungry, and having the patience to wait until I could have what I really wanted to eat.

BigSky
05-23-2013, 05:50 PM
@PreciousMissy
Couldn't find anything regarding "overfead" but I changed the spelling and found the pdf. Thanks!

pattygirl63
05-23-2013, 09:51 PM
This is a small victory, but i don't think it's ever happened before. You know those snack-size bags of chips? Well, i always thought they were so small they weren't even worth eating. Seriously. I would want at least 3 little bags at a time! Well yesterday, i ate one bag and didn't feel like i needed another one.

Congratulations, great accomplishment surgergirl. :carrot: While I've been able to have that accomplishment with some things, but not with chips. I thought about buying the small bags, but I don't think I'm ready for that. Happy for you.

geoblewis
05-23-2013, 10:28 PM
Hi all. My name is Georgia and I think I want to join in on this discussion. Years ago I succeeded with a form of intuitive eating, but then I got pregnant and life just overwhelmed me from that point on.

My sons are 21 and 15 now and fairly low-maintenance, I'm divorced from the king of drama and life is pretty good now. I've managed to lose 40 lbs but have a long way to go. I actually lost nearly 70 lbs but then I went on vacation to Scotland and discovered the joys of shortbread and Edinburgh Raspberry Gin. (Dip shortbread in the raspberry gin...mmmmm!) I have finally stopped the weight gain and slowly inched back down the scale.

I have health issues and I've been following advice on how to eat for those issues, but frankly, that's a huge cause of my stress over the last year. My body simply did not want to lose weight when eating like medical professionals and other dieting "experts" were telling me I had to eat. Several small meals a day were making me nuts! I tried intermittent fasting, and it worked great for a year, but then the doctor talked me out of doing it, despite the great results. And when I tried to go back on it, I struggled.

So I'm here, because this week I've just been eating on a loose plan (I prefer to stick to a Paleolithic food plan) and eating only when hungry, eating a few bites, then waiting to see when I'm hungry again. And I'm already down 6 lbs. And it was fairly effortless! I LOVE THAT!

I found value in what has been shared on this thread, specifically that some days one is hungrier than others. I'm having one of those days today. So it's okay to get hungry. I'm good with that! It's okay to take care of it appropriately.

I'll probably still track what and how much I eat. I just want to be careful until I learn to trust myself to make the right choices.

So, see ya 'round here!

pattygirl63
05-24-2013, 12:30 AM
Georgia Hi, I remember you from other threads and have wondered how you were doing. Wellcome. My doctor didn't want me to do IF either, but I read an article telling all the health benefits that they believe it will do to the point that there is a university in the UK who are doing a study to see if it will reverse diabetes as well as prevent heart and circulatory diseases. I met a lady who does talks for Heart to Heart Association here in town and she said doctors don't really don't know how to treat women. Her cardiologist didn't know how or didn't treat her as she should have been treted before she had her heart attack. So my feeling is, this is my body and I am the one who has to take care of it. I don't want to wait until the UK proves it and then we have to wait for the FDA to approve of it. So I'm doing it, but I'm also doing it a healthy way. Actually, I'm finding that it is the normal way of eating for me. Actually, my doc once told me that any diet would work... the key is finding one you can live with. Well, I believe I have found mine.

I have met a lady online on a different website that is doing a combo of a form of Carbohydrate Addicts Diet with Intuitive Eating and Intermittent Fasting. This is kind of the way I like to eat and I do well on because of me dealing with diabetes. I started eating this way Sunday. Although I don't follow the diet plan exactly because I do it Intuitively. I eat my starchy type carbs once a day and I eat low carb no starchy carbs the rest of the time. They call the carby meal a Reward Meal. I don't like using the name Reward, so I just call it my Carby meal. Unlike the diet plan, my carby meal is not at the same time everyday. Sundays I have it for breakfast. Most days it is the noon meal but I can move it to evening meal when I need it. The amazing thing is that I ended up eating only 2 meals a day by the 3rd day. I'm just not hungry. I am finally back to eating the way I was when I did IE a few yrs ago and got messed up when I listened to someone on another IE website who told me I could not go more than 5 or 6 hrs at the most without eating. Now that I've learned so much about Intermittent Fasting and the wonderful benefits of it, I know that nothing is going to go wrong if I fast more than 5 or 6 hrs or more. My final meal last night was my lowcarb meal at 7:30 pm and I didn't get hungry to eat again until about 5 pm today. I ate what I wanted and I was satisfied when I quit eating. I'm not losing weight at this point. CAD says weigh daily and average weight loss or gain at the end of 7 days. My blood pressure is normal, my fasting blood sugar has been coming down steadily. I believe the weight has slowed down and my body is adjusting and stabilizing before it starts losing weight. This is how I ate as a child and almost everytime I lost weight so I am very pleased to be eating the way that is normal for me again and the way things are going.

PreciousMissy
05-24-2013, 02:54 PM
Good afternoon all!

I'm still listening to my body, and it's telling me amazing things! My lunch didn't quite cut it today so I went "shopping" at the vending machine down the hall. As I was walking down the hall I decided I wanted something sweet and cake-y.

When I got to the vending machine I stared for a bit, mulling over my choices. Eventually I settled on something salty and savory. So much for sweet and cake-y!

When I looked at the calendar I realized why I've been craving salt all week long. I suspect next week I'll be craving hamburgers and steak. I love not having to follow rules that make me, and my body, unhappy.

I hope everyone has a glorious weekend!

geoblewis
05-24-2013, 02:59 PM
Trish!!! So nice to hear from you again! Fancy meeting you here!

Yes, the very low carb diet with carefully placed carbs, the intermittent fasting in a way that I can handle it (I definitely can go about 7 hours between meals when I stick to my Paleo eating with good protein and healthy fats plus veggies), and the intuitive eating feels right for me. So much less stress over food! And I can go out with friends and make the right choices and not stress over that as well.

Yesterday I had breakfast early, at 6. I was very busy all morning and didn't start feeling hungry till around noon, but couldn't stop to eat till 2. I was SUPER hungry, so I did a drive-thru at Carl's Jr. for one of their low carb burgers and a bottle of water. I inhaled it! And I thought that I was going to be fine with that, but an hour later, I was hungry again! It was really surprising to me. I tried to let it pass, but it wouldn't go away. I made a pastrami and avocado lettuce wrap with a bit of garlic dressing. Dang, it was good! Stomach finally settled down. I didn't feel like eating again till just before bed time. There was a little soup left from my son's dinner, so I ate that. There was ground chicken, brown rice and veggies in it. I topped it with a little Romano cheese. Yum!

So this morning I weighed myself. Up a pound. Really? I think it was the salt from the burger and the pastrami. I'm not stressed. I think I killed that extra pound this morning with my workout.

Tomorrow we're going to visit my boys' grandparents. Grandpa wants to eat at Black Bear Diner. I've never eaten there before. I have heard the portions are huge. Must order carefully! There's a menu online that I can look at so I can plan ahead.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

pattygirl63
05-24-2013, 09:20 PM
My day was busy. DH had docs appt so we didn't eat until 3:30 and I ate again around 6pm. So followig my IF part of eating, I only ate within a 4 hr window... not on purpose, but just didn't get hungry. I'm finding that I'm not getting hungry as often, or eat as much as I used to. So glad to say that by combining IE with IF and CAD, is working for me. Although I have to say that today was more of an IE/IF. Really didn't include CAD today.

Carolr I forgot to thank you for the article you posted by Skwigg. I agree with so much of what she says she's learned and it amazes me that I have learned some of the things that she has. So glad to find someone else who has made IE more a personalized thing by doing things a little differently so that they can make IE work for them.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

SouthernMaven
05-25-2013, 09:59 AM
Hi everyone - I know I haven't been around much, but I just wanted to say that I hope everyone has a great holiday weekend.

Welcome Georgia and BigSky! So glad to have you join us.

Things are about the same for me - just eating when I'm hungry, stopping when I'm full. My clothes are fitting about the same as well, so I don't think I've lost any more weight, but that's fine with me. I haven't gained any either, so that's a plus.

This weekend is going to be a little stressful as my daughter and SIL are moving into a new house and not only am I having to baby-sit their two cats (Cady and Sophie) my husband and I are also going to help transport some furniture my brother has been storing for them. So it will be a busy afternoon-evening today. They have professional movers for the bulk of the move (moving from a 2-bedroom apt to a 4 bedroom house about 5 miles apart) but the furniture we're moving is in our neck of the woods and it's about a 45 minute drive over to their new house. Got up about 5 am to get over to the apt to pick up the cats so I'm pretty tired already - and it's only 10:00 am! :( Right now I'm too tired to even think about food!

Charin
05-25-2013, 10:55 AM
Amazing things happen when no foods are off limits, right? I think over the last couple of weeks I've been able to get all the cravings I didn't meet over the last two years of dieting. Lots of healthy fats which I had been under eating. Delicious fruits that I wouldn't eat because they were not low GI. And I also stopped eating things that I ate daily out of habit but were not bringing me pleasure (like by daily dose of baby carrots). In short, I am eating for nourishment but not only if my body by my spirit and emotions as well. I am eating for pleasure not punishment. If I am still hungry I will just eat some more. And guess what? I am more at peace. I am eating a variety of foods all in moderation. I've gone back to some of my staples because I DO enjoy them (oatmeal and egg whites in the morning) but I won't eat them on remote control, I ask myself if that's what I want that morning. I went to the supermarket and bought things I had been thinking about and you know what? I didn't have to eat them right when I got home because I realized there is NO RUSH. I can eat them whenever!!! FREEDOM around food. I pray this continues. I need a sane way to maintain my weight loss. I like the element of trust in our bodies on IE. I lived in fear I would one day snap and eat myself back to obesity but I know realized I need to trust myself to eat how I need to eat for nourishment, health and fitness. Sorry if this seems like rambling. I am just do excited. Thanks to all for sharing your journey through this thread.

geoblewis
05-25-2013, 01:35 PM
I went to bed late last night (I have sleep issues), but was delightfully blessed with sleeping in quite late. 9.5 hours! I really needed it!

My sons wanted pizza for dinner last night. They had friends over and I was happy to not have to cook anything. I only ordered enough pizza for them. I know that if I have one piece, it multiplies to several pieces. So they chowed down and what was left was a single piece of pizza. And I got it! Satisfaction!

My weigh-in this morning was satisfying. I didn't lose anything since two days ago. I'm fine with that because I have eaten a little more over the last two days. So I think I know what level of eating equals maintenance for me (I've been trying to figure that out for a while).

This morning, I'm not hungry at all. Having my coffee with cream now, and I really don't want to eat till an early dinner tonight with Grandpa and Grandma. I looked at the Black Bear Diner menu. Yeesh! I could easily eat all my day's calories at one meal! Planning for the smaller portion of top sirloin steak, plus a salad with lemon (and I'm packing my own olive oil) and double portion of the sautťed veggies. No dessert. Maybe I'll bring along a bit of my dark French chocolate stash. 'Cuz that's what I really like!

pattygirl63
05-25-2013, 06:34 PM
Amazing things happen when no foods are off limits, right? I think over the last couple of weeks I've been able to get all the cravings I didn't meet over the last two years of dieting. Lots of healthy fats which I had been under eating. Delicious fruits that I wouldn't eat because they were not low GI. And I also stopped eating things that I ate daily out of habit but were not bringing me pleasure (like by daily dose of baby carrots). In short, I am eating for nourishment but not only if my body by my spirit and emotions as well. I am eating for pleasure not punishment. If I am still hungry I will just eat some more. And guess what? I am more at peace. I am eating a variety of foods all in moderation. I've gone back to some of my staples because I DO enjoy them (oatmeal and egg whites in the morning) but I won't eat them on remote control, I ask myself if that's what I want that morning. I went to the supermarket and bought things I had been thinking about and you know what? I didn't have to eat them right when I got home because I realized there is NO RUSH. I can eat them whenever!!! FREEDOM around food. I pray this continues. I need a sane way to maintain my weight loss. I like the element of trust in our bodies on IE. I lived in fear I would one day snap and eat myself back to obesity but I know realized I need to trust myself to eat how I need to eat for nourishment, health and fitness. Sorry if this seems like rambling. I am just do excited. Thanks to all for sharing your journey through this thread.

That is great that you are learning to do this to maintain. Wish I had learned this when I lost so much weight yrs ago and I wouldn't be having to do it now. At least this time when I lose the weight, I will know how to stay there. It is a wonderful feeling to be at peace with food and the freedom to eat what you want is great. I think the reason it took me so long to really do IE 100% was that I didn't trust my body. I went through that time of eating all the foods I had not been allowed to eat when dieting. Then there came the day when I suddenly realized that some of those foods weren't as good as I thought they were because now I could have them. I never even notice them in the store any more. I also learned that some of the healthy foods I was supposed to eat or was allowed on a diet that I had convinced myself that I liked and were my favorites... suddenly I found that I didn't really like them at all. I remember in the IE book when they told a client to find out what she really liked and she learned there were only 10 foods that she really liked and they taught her to make her meals around those food. So that is what I've done and now that I know the foods that I really like I plan my meals around those foods. Eating is much more pleasurable these days. Happy for you.:)

pattygirl63
05-25-2013, 07:07 PM
SouthernMaven Good to hear from you. I hate moving so I understand the stress as just the thought is stressful to me. Good luck and take breaks when you need them.

Georgia Great plan for the pizza and eating out with the Grandparents. I like planning in advance. I try to eat my starchy carbs one a day. We have company coming to town Friday... DH cousin he hasn't seen in 20 yrs. We are taking them to Outback. We will all share the blooming onion and I'll have steak, salad and veggies at the restaurant. Then when we come to our house, I plan to have a salad tray and cheesecake and drinks. That way my carby food will be my piece of cheesecake. I do love how I can eat healthy and lowcarb and do it eating exactly what I want.

My weekly average loss is 1.4 lbs this week. My weight loss will be slow this way, but the nice thing is that my blood pressure is normal again and my fasting blood glucose reading was down to 133. That is down from around 202 when I started eating this way. So I am very pleased.

Charin
05-25-2013, 09:06 PM
Hi Trish, I hear you! I've lost and gained weight SEVERAL times in my life! This time MUST be the last time! But like you, I wish I had discovered IE before or that at least I wouldn't have such an "all or nothing" attitude. Drastic diet/deprivation or "I blew it so I will eat it all". Now I realize I was punishing myself and my body which would just end up backfiring.

kellycg102
05-26-2013, 09:14 AM
So I am new to this thread and am curious. I am trying to fix my disordered eating as well as my irrational thinking with food. This IE is interesting to me because I never used to be one to eat breakfast, but in the dieting world....you MUST eat breakfast.!! I have been overweight since I was a kid, yo yo dieting since likely 18 or so. My irrational thinking with food is that I really prefer crap junk food. I feel deprived even if I am not dieting at the time because I want to eat takeout for 3 meals a day sometimes....and not salad and have brownies and cookies on top of that. I need to change my thoughts about food and why I eat. I feel like crap when I eat the carby food, but doesn't stop me. I need to change my way of thinking to fuelling my body in a healthy way and not feel deprived. I think about food constantly, worse since loosing 50 lbs on a low carb diet.....then quickly gaining 20ish due to ridiculous binging. I have always been a bit of a binger, elementary school like grade 5 + I would buy 5 chocolate bars a day and eat them throughout the day along with gummys, hamburgers.....(hid from my parents) I have always eaten a row or 2 of cookies in a sitting.....yes since elementary school.....but since this last restrictive diet (I stuck to it faithfully for 24 weeks no cheating) my binging is way worse. The is the longest I have stuck to anything, with WW I would do it for a week, weigh in then take the night off and eat a lot and get back on the next day. Currently I am doing that same low carb diet trying to lose again what I gained, but in the mean time trying to get a plan in place to try and let go of this disordered eating. I am reading books on binging, I am actually starting on an antidepressant, because I have hit a super low and can't get out.....hoping that will help to level out my head a bit and make this situation of my food issues not seem so grim.

Wow sorry for the long story lol. Just curious about this way of eating, I will look for the book mentioned earlier and see what I find. Thanks everyone, and good luck with all of you!

geoblewis
05-26-2013, 03:09 PM
I did really well at the restaurant last night. While there, we explored the menu but I stuck with my plan. I even asked my sons to remind me to stick to my plan if it looked like I was going to stray. While looking at the menu, I decided this was probably going to be the only time I would ever go to this restaurant. The calorie counts were horrible! They served a "bear claw" that was around 2400 calories!

I did come home a little hungry, so I ate a handful of almonds and was fine for the night. I slept in and woke you to another loss on the scale (down 9 lbs. of my regain!). I was feeling particularly hypoglycemic so I opted for a homemade sprouted wheat buttermilk waffle (and I stopped at one!) plus two eggs and a bit of cream in my coffee. I ate it pretty quickly, but managed to wait it out for 20 minutes to hit my blood stream. That's when I discovered I was completely satisfied and was free to go about my day!

This is awesome! I feel free!

the shiv
05-26-2013, 04:01 PM
I really enjoyed reading this page :D Hi to the newbs :) :hug: *welcome*

I've been eating a lot of cr*p the past few months, and I've maintained. I LOVE this! Other things have just taken priority, and that's fine. My weight isn't the only thing in my life, and this sense of perspective is one of my favourite things about IE :) I'm happy to have not got bigger, I still feel good, and now I have my BC (9 days on it and no nasty side effects, in fact I feel even better!!) I don't need to obsess over the number on the scale. So, I've just done my first week of my lifting program and I LOVE it!! While I've not lost any lbs the past few months, that will come. Been focussing on stress reduction, balancing my hormones, heading off the recurring depression... Loads of progress there. I know when I get more full on with the IE again, more weight will come off. Totally loving this :) ok I want to be smaller and stronger, but I think IE is teaching me patience, in a round-about way.

No idea where I'm going with this post ;)

pattygirl63
05-26-2013, 10:44 PM
I wanted to share another online article by a man named Steve Cooksey who controls his T-2 diabetes with Intermittent Fasting and Primal Lifestyle (Lowcarb). He says there's 2 ways to do it. One way he calls Planned IFasting where you eat 30 grams of carbs a day starting out and no more than 50 grams a day of carbs a day as you adjust to eating this way. You choose how long and how often you want to eat and fast.

The second way (the way I eat) he calls Unplanned IFasing where he says "if you're hungry, eat. If you're not hungry don't eat". Hummm sounds like Intuitive Eating. He says he only eats 2 meals a day Primal Lifesstyle but never really shares in the article I read what his eating window was. However, he did mention having done 24 hr fasts, but I didn't get the feeling he did this on a regular basis. I think he must do shorter fasts more often although most people I've heard of eat within 5 to 8 hr window and fast 16 to 19 hrs. So I assume since he eats more Intuitively that like me, he may eat between a 5/19 ratio and 8/16. Some days I may eat within only a 5 hr window, but I have on rare occasions eaten within a 4 hr because I just wasn't hungry. I've never done a 24 hr, but have done a 22 hr fast because I got so busy that I actually forgot to eat. The nice thing about all this is that it has helped me accomplish IE better because I am actually able to eat the way that is "normal" for me. It finally clicks for me "eat when I'm hungry and don't eat when I don't". Can't really explain how or when it came together for me. Just glad it did.

I was so excited to find another testimony of someone else that has successfully lost weight, improved their health so that their bs, bp and other numbers are normal because of eating this way. The only thing he does stress that it is important that I needed to hear is to be sure to eat plenty of protein and fat before fasting.

pattygirl63
05-26-2013, 10:57 PM
So I am new to this thread and am curious. I am trying to fix my disordered eating as well as my irrational thinking with food. This IE is interesting to me because I never used to be one to eat breakfast, but in the dieting world....you MUST eat breakfast.!! I have been overweight since I was a kid, yo yo dieting since likely 18 or so. My irrational thinking with food is that I really prefer crap junk food. I feel deprived even if I am not dieting at the time because I want to eat takeout for 3 meals a day sometimes....and not salad and have brownies and cookies on top of that. I need to change my thoughts about food and why I eat. I feel like crap when I eat the carby food, but doesn't stop me. I need to change my way of thinking to fuelling my body in a healthy way and not feel deprived. I think about food constantly, worse since loosing 50 lbs on a low carb diet.....then quickly gaining 20ish due to ridiculous binging. I have always been a bit of a binger, elementary school like grade 5 + I would buy 5 chocolate bars a day and eat them throughout the day along with gummys, hamburgers.....(hid from my parents) I have always eaten a row or 2 of cookies in a sitting.....yes since elementary school.....but since this last restrictive diet (I stuck to it faithfully for 24 weeks no cheating) my binging is way worse. The is the longest I have stuck to anything, with WW I would do it for a week, weigh in then take the night off and eat a lot and get back on the next day. Currently I am doing that same low carb diet trying to lose again what I gained, but in the mean time trying to get a plan in place to try and let go of this disordered eating. I am reading books on binging, I am actually starting on an antidepressant, because I have hit a super low and can't get out.....hoping that will help to level out my head a bit and make this situation of my food issues not seem so grim.

Wow sorry for the long story lol. Just curious about this way of eating, I will look for the book mentioned earlier and see what I find. Thanks everyone, and good luck with all of you!

Kelly:welcome3: :hug:I've been right where you are. Although I didn't have a weight problem until my early 20's, I didn't eat like everybody else. I never ate breakfast except on special occasions. I could go out with friends and just have a cold drink while they ate if I didn't want to eat. The way I eat now with IE, is the way I ate growing up and most of the times I've lost weight effortlessly. I first gained weight when I started eating the way the world calls "normal". And that is how I've gained it everytime.

I would suggest going back and reading old Intuitive Eating threads. I hope you will be able to find a way to be at peace with IE if you choose to do it. Took me a while to get it right myself even after knowing it would work. Please feel free to jump in and share and ask questions. Hopefully we can help you find your way. Good luck on your journey.

geoblewis
05-27-2013, 12:39 AM
Trish - Thank you so much for sharing that information from Steve Cooksey. I have been exploring his website all afternoon. So much to process, and I'm so happy to read every bit of it. Helps remove my doubts about what I'm trying to achieve.

skelley331
05-29-2013, 08:51 AM
I would love to join your group of Intuitive Eaters, i'm currently reading the book now and i'm about 45% thru it. I did MRC (Metabolic Research Center) to lose 34 lbs but it was a very low carb low fat diet and I lost 29 1/4", but when I hit maintenance all my cravings came back and we could only eat certain foods. To make a long story short, it's fast but once you're done its hard to maintain. I read The Diet Cure and it's amazing also and is helping me not to diet then I saw a post on Intuitive Eating so that's how I started reading it. I've gained 8lbs trying to maintain thru MRC and seems like all I do is think about foods until I read The Diet Cure. So hopefully I can become a Intuitive Eater also. Thanks for listening. :carrot:

the shiv
05-29-2013, 10:45 AM
Hey Skelley :) :hug:

Congrats on getting straight in there with knowing why you're struggling to maintain, and knowing what you want to do about it. I don't have your willpower, I can tell you that! 34lbs on low carb low fat... I'd be a wreck, lol! That's an awesome job you've done with your weight loss! I'm maintaining on IE right now as I'm feeling lazy, it takes me more psychological effort to lose, so I just take losing periods where I can get them :)

I haven't read The Diet Cure, but from the title it sounds like an inside-out approach rather than an outside-in one. On the day I accepted I CAN'T stick to a meal plan for a day, let alone the rest of my life, I found the right approach. I don't want to be planning my life around food, I think that just gives food way too much power over me! How are you enjoying the book? :)

geoblewis
05-29-2013, 11:35 AM
I was talking with a dietician last week about intuitive eating. She really likes it and practices it herself. She asked me if I had noticed I was more hungry some days and less on others. At that time, I hadn't, but I definitely noticed it this week! Yesterday I felt ravenous! Ate all my calories by lunch (I'm still tracking what food I eat, just to stay on top of it), but after that, didn't really feel like eating. I nibbled on some cauliflower and some tuna in the evening. This morning, I woke up genuinely hungry for breakfast. I took my time eating and now I feel satisfied and am ready to go about my day without having to worry about food again.

Last night, I was even feeling superpowered by feeling empty but not hungry. Like I have new strength over food. Freedom!

carolr3639
05-29-2013, 11:48 AM
I'm glad this thread is busy. Since my TIA a month ago I've had problems and can't post as often. I did lose 4lb last month.

skelley331
05-29-2013, 12:58 PM
Hey Skelley :) :hug:

Congrats on getting straight in there with knowing why you're struggling to maintain, and knowing what you want to do about it. I don't have your willpower, I can tell you that! 34lbs on low carb low fat... I'd be a wreck, lol! That's an awesome job you've done with your weight loss! I'm maintaining on IE right now as I'm feeling lazy, it takes me more psychological effort to lose, so I just take losing periods where I can get them :)

I haven't read The Diet Cure, but from the title it sounds like an inside-out approach rather than an outside-in one. On the day I accepted I CAN'T stick to a meal plan for a day, let alone the rest of my life, I found the right approach. I don't want to be planning my life around food, I think that just gives food way too much power over me! How are you enjoying the book? :)

Thank you! The Diet Cure shows you how to get your body back in balance after being on such a roller coaster! I'm loving the Intuitive Eating book, I love the fact that you eat when your hungry, the MRC program you have to eat three meals a day with in a certain time and take supplements and protein drinks and you are limited to what you eat. There are times i'm just not hungry. I'm anxious to get thru the book!!!:carrot:

SouthernMaven
05-29-2013, 01:27 PM
I'm glad this thread is busy. Since my TIA a month ago I've had problems and can't post as often. I did lose 4lb last month.

Carol, glad to hear you've lost 4 lbs, but so sorry about your health issues. My brother had a TIA many years ago (was either in his late 40's or early 50's, not sure which) but fortunately did not have any recurring problems.

Thank you for keeping up with the thread and setting up a new one when necessary. I appreciate your efforts and totally understand why you're not on as often. Hope that you feel better really soon.

PreciousMissy
05-29-2013, 05:43 PM
It took me a while to get through the thread, but I'm glad I'm all caught up!

I haven't had any amazing IE moments lately, lol. The biggest thing is that I was super hungry Monday. I couldn't stop eating! When I thought about it, it made perfect sense. I did a lot of yard work Friday and Saturday, but only ate once Saturday. I wasn't particularly hungry on Sunday so I didn't really eat much then either.

By Monday my body had enough! If I wasn't going to give it enough fuel, it was going to make me. So, I obliged and ate...and ate...and ate ;)

skelley331
05-30-2013, 12:43 PM
how do I find previous post for Intuitive Eating? thank you :carrot:

the shiv
05-30-2013, 12:47 PM
how do I find previous post for Intuitive Eating? thank you :carrot:

I'd do a search for thread titles in the search box at the top, the threads are always called Intuitive Eating # (then the number). I'd post links but I only post from my phone, and the search feature doesn't work properly on that! :( It'll always be in this part of the forum, maybe the advanced search would work better for finding the other threads :)

carolr3639
05-30-2013, 03:00 PM
Search Obsidianbbw. She's on page #1 of Intuitive Eating 16. Find all her posts. On page 34 is the original intuitive eating.

carolr3639
05-30-2013, 03:01 PM
After you get the first, there is usually a link at the end to the next onel

carolr3639
06-01-2013, 05:20 PM
Sure are a lot of people talking about the no diet plan.

pattygirl63
06-03-2013, 10:08 PM
I have the No Diet book. Although it is called for No Diet, I felt it was just another diet book.

I am really enjoying my IE/IF way of eating now. Weight loss is very slow, but fasting blood sugar is steadily improving. I am very pleased. I'm still using the Allen Carr cd when I go to bed at night and I really believe it is helping me.

I try to eat starchy carbs only once a day, but one day last week I got so hungry, craving nachos. We had gone out to eat at Chili's and I wanted nachos but didn't get them. I ate something else. Well when I got home the desire for the nachos just would not go away and it was so strong a desire that I decided to go ahead and have it eve though it would be 2 starchy carb meals in one day. I was so surprised to find that once I had eaten about 1/3 of what I normally would have eaten that I didn't want any more. I put it down the garbage disposal. IE at work. What an experience. I felt so good and thrilled with the results. Free to what I want and eat only as much as I wanted and no more feels great. I was free to break the rule because it was not a rule written in stone (it is my rule no one elses) and I had no guilt afterwards. :carrot: Great accomplishment for me.

Carolr I pray you are feeling better each day and have a quick recovery.

geoblewis
06-03-2013, 10:47 PM
Today I had a great day, with regards to intuitive eating. I spent several hours on the road, driving home from Los Angeles. Nearly 7 hours of driving usually leaves me a neurotic mess. I usually stop along the way to pick up food to numb the discomfort and anxiety of the whole drive, and to help me stay alert.

I didn't need any of that today! I started off with an adequate breakfast. I brought enough to drink for the trip. I did some shoulder and arm stretching exercises as I drove, did some Pilates-like core work in my seat. I stopped twice for a bathroom break and took a little time to stretch more completely. And the most important thing was to keep telling myself that I do NOT get safety from nibbling all the way home. In fact, I sat in the car and said that, over and over, about 50 times, until I believed it in my body.

So I made it home, ate appropriately and didn't feel stressed at all when I arrived. I'm looking forward to a simple dinner and a good night's sleep! I feel like I was victorious today!

carolr3639
06-04-2013, 10:28 AM
And the most important thing was to keep telling myself that I do NOT get safety from nibbling all the way home. In fact, I sat in the car and said that, over and over, about 50 times, until I believed it in my body.What an accomplishment!

pattygirl63
06-04-2013, 07:56 PM
Great accomplishment Georgia. Those things empowers us to do well again and again.

skelley331
06-04-2013, 10:15 PM
I just finished reading the Overfed Head and it makes so much sense. Eat when your hungry, eat what you want, stop when you're full!!! I'm starting tomorrow! :carrot:

carolr3639
06-05-2013, 07:00 AM
I just finished reading the Overfed HeadMy favorite IE book.

PreciousMissy
06-05-2013, 10:19 AM
I usually stop along the way to pick up food to numb the discomfort and anxiety of the whole drive, and to help me stay alert.

I never thought about it, but I do the same thing too! Thinking back on road trips, I would make sure to pack enough snacks. I would eat them out of boredom, not because I was hungry. I'm going to have to pay attention to this the next time I drive a long distance!

SouthernMaven
06-05-2013, 10:35 AM
I never thought about it, but I do the same thing too! Thinking back on road trips, I would make sure to pack enough snacks. I would eat them out of boredom, not because I was hungry. I'm going to have to pay attention to this the next time I drive a long distance!

I find this so interesting, because the car is one of the very few places I rarely eat! For some reason I do not care to eat in the car, either as a driver OR passenger. It doesn't make me sick or anything, I just never developed that habit. Which surprises me, frankly.

I do a fair amount of long-distance driving, but I generally only drink black coffee. I enjoy stopping and eating a full meal on the days that I drive long distances, but I don't snack. I will also drink water, so of course I have to stop relatively often, but I need to do that to stretch my legs anyway.

Georgia, I think that was a major victory for you! Congratulations!

carolr3639
06-05-2013, 11:24 AM
And the most important thing was to keep telling myself that I do NOT get safety from nibbling all the way home. In fact, I sat in the car and said that, over and over, about 50 times, until I believed it in my body.I thought about it and realized eating does have a calming effect. Hunger makes me anxious and eating calms. I never thought about it.

skelley331
06-05-2013, 08:42 PM
Today was my first day not on a diet and so far so good, I have only ate when I've been hungry and actually stopped when I felt satisfied, wow! And it's 8:41 p.m. and by now I have usually had a big bowl of ice cream, then some chips, and some nuts but so far I've had nothing because i'm NOT hungry!! :cp::cp:

jennybee
06-06-2013, 08:35 AM
Hi everyone, I've been reading through this thread and it feels like it might be the right place for me. I have always had a twisted relationship with food, I overeat and emotional eat way too much. I really want to fix this and be the kind of person who doesn't think so much about food and what they're going to eat next.

I am still counting calories at the moment to make sure I don't go overboard, but I am trying to stop planning ahead and freaking out. Instead I am just waiting until I get hungry, then eating something, and then stopping. Seems so simple, but it's SO hard to relearn your whole approach to food.

skelley331
06-06-2013, 09:56 AM
Hi everyone, I've been reading through this thread and it feels like it might be the right place for me. I have always had a twisted relationship with food, I overeat and emotional eat way too much. I really want to fix this and be the kind of person who doesn't think so much about food and what they're going to eat next.

I am still counting calories at the moment to make sure I don't go overboard, but I am trying to stop planning ahead and freaking out. Instead I am just waiting until I get hungry, then eating something, and then stopping. Seems so simple, but it's SO hard to relearn your whole approach to food.

Welcome, I know what you mean I was at that same place and then I just read IE but I feel that the book The overfed Head puts it more in perspective and it's much quicker and simpler to read. I've lost 2.6 lbs eating what I want, when i'm hungry, and stop when i'm satisfied. goodluck:carrot:

PreciousMissy
06-06-2013, 10:52 AM
Welcome skelley331 and jennybee!

Yesterday I did great! I went out to lunch with a friend and the portions were huge! I ate until I was satisfied. I knew I was getting full so I even took the time to decide what I wanted most for my last bite! I packaged the rest up and took it back to work.

Around 4:30 I was hungry so I decided to eat the lunch leftovers. Again, I ate until I was satisfied, and tossed the little that was left (it wasn't enough to bother saving).

Then I went home.

I wasn't even hungry, but I ate. My boyfriend wanted Chinese for dinner and when it was delivered it smelled soooo good! I ate like I hadn't seen food all day!

I know it wasn't emotional eating. It was just pure "it smells good and I want some" eating.

Today is a new day and I am going to put forth a bit more will power to eat only when hungry.

SouthernMaven
06-06-2013, 12:33 PM
Welcome skelley331 and jennybee! So glad you've decided to join us!

I really want to fix this and be the kind of person who doesn't think so much about food and what they're going to eat next.


My ultimate goal is to completely eliminate thinking about food until I realize I'm hungry and need to eat. I'm not there yet, but I'm making progress!

TamTam
06-06-2013, 04:00 PM
Hello all! Sorry for not posting in awhile, crazy busy life!! Glad everyone is doing well. Carol hoping you are getting better also. Been doing good with my eating, the only looney thing is when my blood sugar is good the scale is up and when my blood sugar is bad the scale is down!!! Not sure what is the deal with that, but will figure it out one day. Hubby also is overweight and has Type II Diabetes, but his blood sugar has been soooo high, his doctor told him to eat six small meals a day and she put him on two more meds, so we have NOT been eating out that much, which is a GOOD thing, been eating more fruits and veggies, I find he still will still serve himself too much food, but one thing at a time, it has also made me eat healthier also, so that is a good thing. Hope you all have a blessed day!!

jennybee
06-07-2013, 03:00 AM
Thanks for the welcome everyone! :) I have been trying really hard to focus on when I'm hungry today. I was fine when I woke up and didn't eat until about 11:30/12, when I had a piece of rye toast with avocado, fetta and tomato. Then I went for a run and drank lots of water, and I've been really busy this afternoon so didn't even have time to think about food.

Around 3:30 a friend gave me a packet of homemade yoyo biscuits because I've been going through some stress lately, and I ate two (they were delicious!) I am trying not to think of calories/sugar etc, as they were a treat. Usually I would have eaten 4 or 5 in one go so I think I've done well!

Now it's nearly 5 here and I can slowly feel myself getting hungry - I might have a corn thin (do you have them in the US?) with peanut butter to tide myself over until dinner, since I don't usually eat until 7:30/8.

Sorry for the long post, I just thought it would help to dissect my eating habits! I have been finding that I get much hungrier in the afternoon/at night. It's strange to actually think about it instead of just eating 3 meals at the same time every day!

carolr3639
06-08-2013, 05:15 PM
Sorry for the long post,We like long posts.

pattygirl63
06-09-2013, 12:15 AM
Haven't been here in a while, but I do read from time to time. Just been busy. DH is having therapy after neck surgery for his neck and for back pain. Seems like we spend most of our time at doc appts and therapy most days right now. But Tony is getting better.

:welcome3: To all the Newbies. Seems to be more of us doing this now.

Still doing the IE/IF combo. Tired of trying to figure out what to eat and purchased some tv dinners today that I really like. I know they're processed foods (supposed to be bad for us), but since I'm doing IE and don't think of foods as good/bad foods, I can eat them. :carrot: Right now I'm not in the mood to cook so I can eat these on those days when I don't want to cook. Only losing less than a lb a week, but weight is coming off slowly, but scale is moving downward.

Have a great Sunday everybody.

carolr3639
06-11-2013, 10:55 AM
weight is coming off slowly, but scale is moving downward. Same here.

skelley331
06-11-2013, 01:31 PM
I just started the IE about a week ago I gained about 8lbs but now it's slowly coming off also. But it's so nice not to think about food 24/7 and what you're suppose to eat or not. I eat when i'm hungry and stop when i'm satisfied!! Lovin IT:carrot::cool:

carolr3639
06-12-2013, 12:43 PM
I eat when i'm hungry and stop when i'm satisfied!! Lovin ITSo glad.

pattygirl63
06-12-2013, 09:07 PM
IE is working nicely for me too. I am finally at the place of eating exactly what I want when I'm hungry and stop when I'm satisfied. I still use the Allen Carr cd when I go to bed, but more now just to relax and get a good nights sleep. I am amazed how things are going now. I had a carby day Monday ( personal pan pizza for main meal then had a Lean Cuisine dinner and homemade nacho cheese) and the next day I was shocked that my weight was down 2 or 3 lbs. Don't remember what I ate yesterday, but I thought my weight would be up a little this morning, but the digital scale is such a blessing because it was in tenths. I was down .2 lbs. So I was so excited and look forward to see what my weight loss will be Saturday for this week. We eat out a lot since DH is having physical therapy. So I don't plan what I'm going to eat in advance.. I eat what I want and I'm losing. Fasting blood sugar isn't normal, but still coming down.

I think what has happened is that I'm finally convinced and have it in my mind that there are no good/bad foods which has taken off a lot of stress of having to think about foods 24/7. I don't eat breakfast any more. I only eat fruits in the morning because that is what I like to do. Many times we decide at the last moment where we are going to eat as we leave DH therapy treatment making choices spontaneous. But it isn't making gain weight; I'm losing. I really believe the big help is that I'm more relaxed. I don't eat snacks any more especially at night and I didn't plan not to, I just don't seem to need it. Amazing feeling to find that now I can eat whenever I want to and can eat whatever I want, I don't seem to want it or need it so much any more.

jennybee
06-12-2013, 09:53 PM
We like long posts.

Yay, good to know :)

Pattygirl, I've found the same thing about breakfast - I don't really get hungry until about 11am or so, and then I usually have something small to tide me over until lunch. It feels like I'm eating less than I would with calorie counting and structured meals, so I'm trying to balance it out by making sure my diet is varied and I have lots of healthy fats and that kind of thing.

I'm surprised at how well I've adapted to IE, it really feels like something I could stick with long-term which I've never found with calorie counting and other diets.

KatieMo11
06-12-2013, 11:05 PM
I have had a major love/hate relationship with food, not eating and bingeing and then working my butt off in the gym, ad nauseum.
With intuitive eating I'm hoping to break the cycle.
What tips and tricks do you have that can help me stop when I reach for one more cookie? The last bit of the chocolate bar?
What helps for you?

pattygirl63
06-13-2013, 02:03 AM
Yay, good to know :)

Pattygirl, I've found the same thing about breakfast - I don't really get hungry until about 11am or so, and then I usually have something small to tide me over until lunch. It feels like I'm eating less than I would with calorie counting and structured meals, so I'm trying to balance it out by making sure my diet is varied and I have lots of healthy fats and that kind of thing.

I'm surprised at how well I've adapted to IE, it really feels like something I could stick with long-term which I've never found with calorie counting and other diets.

Jennybee I usually don't eat my fruit until about 11am too. Then I have a cup of coffee that I put coconut oil, Stevia and cream in it and eat my fruit. Kind of like a fruit cup of fruit that I like. I use mostly coconut oil and Extra Virgin Olive Oil. I find that having the healthy oils seems to keep me from being hungry if I get enough of it. I think my body likes the fact that I have more of a variety of foods instead of the same diet stuff all the time.

carolr3639
06-13-2013, 11:59 AM
What tips and tricks do you have that can help me stop when I reach for one more cookie? The last bit of the chocolate bar?Tell your self you can have it later if you're hungry.

geoblewis
06-13-2013, 04:01 PM
I continue to do well with my IE/IF combination. I get a bit annoyed in the mornings. When I wake up, I am definitely not hungry, but within an hour, I become jittery and anxious, and then my stomach speaks up. I'm glad I've been paying attention to that so that I have things that are very easy to throw together for breakfast.

My day is full and varied. I found that if I'm working after breakfast, I can successfully go till around 3 to have lunch. I am really good and hungry by then. I like to actually experience the hunger. Feels kinda powerful to me for some reason, like I am the one in control of this food/eating thing. Since I workout at 5, I don't want to eat so much that I am uncomfortable during my workout. I'll have a nice salad with tuna or sardines and a good bit of olive oil and lemon to dress it. Simply but yummy!

Yesterday I wasn't so hungry after my workout, and I stayed at work till 9:45 after that, so when I got home, a bowl of Chinese spinach and a small roast beef and cheddar sandwich was enough. I like to go to bed with a satiated belly.

If I had gotten home earlier, I would have overeaten out of habit. I'm really trying to get out of the habit of overeating at night. I'm trying out fasting in the evenings on the weekends, and eating smaller meals during the rest of the time. Trying to reduce the stomach acids. It takes some time to get them reduced, like about four weeks.

My weight is slowly creeping down. Finally!

SouthernMaven
06-14-2013, 10:27 AM
I like to actually experience the hunger. Feels kinda powerful to me for some reason, like I am the one in control of this food/eating thing.

Well said, Georgia! I bet you've discovered that hunger isn't the crisis we once thought it was - when dieting/restricting, hunger becomes almost scary - at least it was for me. I was always afraid to be hungry because I knew that if I didn't eat soon, the meager amount of food that I was allowed on my current "diet" would probably not satisfy me, and I'd be hungry all day/night. And I generally was.

Now I just allow myself to be hungry, and I know that when I do eat I can eat enough to satisfy me. I didn't eat until 3:30 yesterday afternoon. Ate a good, hearty lunch and then wasn't hungry until right before bed. I had bought some Haagen Dazs Gelato because it was on sale and I need to twitter a review of it in order to be entered to win a trip to Italy (my hobby is entering sweepstakes) so I had a few bites of that and that's all I needed.

It is very empowering!

skelley331
06-14-2013, 01:06 PM
I'm kinda new here, I've been doing IE for about a week and a half, this week I've lost 4lbs. Its' amazing after all the years of dieting I can actually eat what I want and still lose weight. I too was a little scared to stop my plan and just eat when I was hungry, eat what I wanted, but it's been awesome, I have no cravings anymore and i'm loving it. Thanks for all the posts and i'm so glad I found IE:carrot:

pattygirl63
06-16-2013, 02:59 PM
I while I'm enjoying IE/IF, I have to admit that I am getting bored with food right now. Anyone else had this happen? I think it is because it is getting hot. However, I think DH is starting to feel better because he talks about some things that he likes. We went out to eat at Golden Corral Friday for Father's day and he always likes the mushrooms. I asked him about it today and he was trying to tell him what he liked and didn't like in it. So I suggested that we start getting in the kitchen and learn how to cook the way he likes things. I do hope he will take me up on it.

We went to eat breakfast this morning and I ordered a special which had way too much food but we usually split it. My problem is that none of it was all that good to me. This is the way I was with food when growing up and when I first did IE yrs ago. I guess I will just roll with it for now. :?:

spryng
06-17-2013, 06:39 PM
Hi everyone! Ive been lurking for awhile, not on 3fatchicks Ive been on here for years! But on your IE thread :) Like most of you Ive been on just about every diet imaginable over the years. The last two years have been the hardest. I started having so many stomach/digestive issues that I was scared to eat because I would be throwing up ALL night so I went whole wheat, lots of grains etc but the sicker I became...finally went to a specialist and found out it was gluten making me sick so I havent touched a morsel in over 7 months now. I feel much better but it was an eye opener for my health and lifestyle. Since then I e been tryinv fo reach my goal weight but I just dont have it in me to crash diet or count carbs, calories, fat or track anything really...so Ive been drawn to IE...I just downloaded the book and also the overfed head pdf and plan on reading them tonight. I stopped counting calories two weeks ago, the first week I went a little nuts, binged a bit and gained 3 lbs. The 2nd week I lost those 3 lbs. I just really listened to my body in week 2...enjoyed my gelato to snickers etc and losg weignt, how freeing is that? So now Im ready to embrace it full time to finish losing these last 15 lbs. Ive already lost 45 lbs on a severe calorie restricted diet but like I said, Im so over all those crazy fad diets, I just want tobe healthy and fit. The only thing I track now is my exercise, which Im working the C25K program and doing HIIT on my other days. So anyway, that is me in a nutshell :) I look forward to getting to know you all and reaching our goals together :) And sorry for the typos, Im on my pho e and this tiny keyboard sucks lol

skelley331
06-17-2013, 07:54 PM
Welcome Spryng, so glad you finally got help to decide what was going on with your system. I joined MRC back in june 2012 and lost 39 lbs really quick, but after I went on maintenance after 4 months all the cravings came back and I was out of control, I gained about 8 lbs when I saw a post on IE and the overfed head and started the IE way and i'm losing lbs and feel so free! It's amazing how you can just listen to your body and eat what you want when you're hungry and stop when you're full! I don't think of food 24/7 anymore. I still weigh in once a week since I only started IE two wks ago but I've lost 4lbs this week. I'm hoping everyone keeps posting their progress. Also i'm currently reading Thin inside out How to Have your CAKE & your SKINNY jeans too and it's amazing. Congratulations and goodluck, keep posting!! :carrot:

carolr3639
06-17-2013, 08:09 PM
Thin inside out How to Have your CAKE & your SKINNY jeans too Is this an IE book?

carolr3639
06-17-2013, 08:13 PM
I looked it up on Amazon and it only comes in kindle.

spryng
06-17-2013, 08:28 PM
Welcome Spryng, so glad you finally got help to decide what was going on with your system. I joined MRC back in june 2012 and lost 39 lbs really quick, but after I went on maintenance after 4 months all the cravings came back and I was out of control, I gained about 8 lbs when I saw a post on IE and the overfed head and started the IE way and i'm losing lbs and feel so free! It's amazing how you can just listen to your body and eat what you want when you're hungry and stop when you're full! I don't think of food 24/7 anymore. I still weigh in once a week since I only started IE two wks ago but I've lost 4lbs this week. I'm hoping everyone keeps posting their progress. Also i'm currently reading Thin inside out How to Have your CAKE & your SKINNY jeans too and it's amazing. Congratulations and goodluck, keep posting!! :carrot:

Thanks! I did MRC a couple of years ago so I know how tough that diet is. I lost weight but as soon as I stopped the diet it piled back on with a few new friends. I will definitely post often, I have a family reunion next month and im hoping to be down at least 5-8 lbs by then, we'll see.

skelley331
06-18-2013, 06:30 AM
Is this an IE book?

yes carolr3639 it's a IE book, it's much better I think. I think there is a audible version too if you don't have kindle.

bookwoman
06-18-2013, 11:17 AM
Iím new here (sort of, Iíve been lurking for a while). I found the site while looking for online support for dieting, but then I found the IE thread and I think this may change my life.

I read Overfed Head (in a day), and am halfway through Triboleís Intuitive Eating. And am working my way through the old IE threads. This is such a relief! I am finally understanding what the real problems are, and why Iíve never been able to overcome them.

I can remember as young as 8 years old thinking I was fat. And in fact my mother has told me that I was a really chubby baby and some doctor told her that she should put me on skim milk and restrict calories and I guess that began what has turned into a lifetime struggle with food and weight and body image.

I have some additional issues in that I have digestive intolerances something like celiac disease. I donít seem to be allergic to gluten per se, but have trouble digesting grains all the way around. Some more than others Ė wheat & rice are particularly bad; corn & oats not so much. And I canít tolerate soy very well either. So in my ďdiet mentalityĒ I have developed an additional list of rules for good/bad foods. Even on IE, obviously Iíll still need to be aware of what I can safely eat, but seems easy by comparison to what I have been trying to track.

I donít want to start rambling here, Iíll post more later. I really just wanted to introduce myself and say how grateful I am to have found this thread and concept.

spryng
06-18-2013, 11:39 AM
Iím new here (sort of, Iíve been lurking for a while). I found the site while looking for online support for dieting, but then I found the IE thread and I think this may change my life.

I read Overfed Head (in a day), and am halfway through Triboleís Intuitive Eating. And am working my way through the old IE threads. This is such a relief! I am finally understanding what the real problems are, and why Iíve never been able to overcome them.

I can remember as young as 8 years old thinking I was fat. And in fact my mother has told me that I was a really chubby baby and some doctor told her that she should put me on skim milk and restrict calories and I guess that began what has turned into a lifetime struggle with food and weight and body image.

I have some additional issues in that I have digestive intolerances something like celiac disease. I donít seem to be allergic to gluten per se, but have trouble digesting grains all the way around. Some more than others Ė wheat & rice are particularly bad; corn & oats not so much. And I canít tolerate soy very well either. So in my ďdiet mentalityĒ I have developed an additional list of rules for good/bad foods. Even on IE, obviously Iíll still need to be aware of what I can safely eat, but seems easy by comparison to what I have been trying to track.

I donít want to start rambling here, Iíll post more later. I really just wanted to introduce myself and say how grateful I am to have found this thread and concept.

Welcome! I'm new too, just joined the thread yesterday :) I can't eat gluten at all, makes me very very sick so I understand your food issues for sure. I think that is why this lifestyle appeals to me so much as well because we already have to be so careful on WHAT we eat (for our health/stomach issues) that its such a burden to then have to diet with tracking,counting, denying etc..its already like a diet just to make sure our food doesn't have ingrediants in it to make us feel bad. I'm only 50 some odd pages into the IE book (3rd edition) but I'm loving it so far. Just makes so much sense and I can't wait to get to the steps to start incorporating into my life.

skelley331
06-18-2013, 12:38 PM
Welcome Bookwoman, glad to have you here, it will be great following everyones progress and comments. Thanks:carrot:

spryng
06-19-2013, 09:27 AM
I finished the Overfed Head last night, such a great story! Now I'm getting back to the IE, I'm only 50+ pages into it so far. I loved the overfed head but he doesn't really talk about HOW he ate or even HOW he maintains now so I hope IE has more info on that.
So for you ladies who are living this way, what is a normal day of eating look like for you. I know this will vary greatly from person to person, but how do you eat each day that results in weightloss? How do you know when to push your plate away and not take one more bite? Also, do you exercise regularly or are you losing the IE way with no structured exercise? Just curious on that one :) Any personal experience you'd like to share from your own journey is appreciated, thanks!

bookwoman
06-19-2013, 09:31 AM
I’ve only been trying IE for less than a week. So far I love it though I worry that this might be the same honeymoon feeling that I always would get when trying any diet. They all seemed wonderful at first. This concept makes so much more sense though, and the more I read in Tribole’s book, the more I realize just why nothing really worked in the past.

I’m still quite leery of trying all my “forbidden” foods. I went shopping yesterday and was picking up several items and thinking “OK, I can try to eat this again and NOT binge on it” but then I ended up putting everything back. The only thing I’ve brought home so far is peanut butter, and that’s been working out all right. I’ve had a couple meals/snacks of that on a banana or apple slices and have been able to recognize my point of satisfaction and put it away. Looks like this jar is going to last a lot longer than its predecessors!

I’m also struggling with the idea that I might not actually lose weight by following IE, but for now just being free of the obsessions gives me a lot of hope.

carolr3639
06-19-2013, 10:22 AM
I do exercise but more for the health benefits. I eat cereal for breakfast and a good lunch. Last night I didn't eat supper but had a glass of orange juice and a teaspoon of peanut butter. Sometimes I eat supper with my dh but I'd rather not. He eats way different than I but he's a veterinarian and farmer.

spryng
06-19-2013, 10:30 AM
I agree bookwoman! I've tried the "eat only when hungry" in the past and it worked for a second then I think it just gave me permission to eat what I wanted, whenever I wanted etc and of course the few lbs I lost from it I quickly gained back with a few friends tagging along.. but I didn't have the IE guide back then, I was just making it up as I went along so now having the book and others to help me hopefully this time I'll "get it" and not go crazy :) So seeing how others are implementing it successfully into their lives is definitely gonna help me do the same :)

spryng
06-19-2013, 10:32 AM
I do exercise but more for the health benefits. I eat cereal for breakfast and a good lunch. Last night I didn't eat supper but had a glass of orange juice and a teaspoon of peanut butter. Sometimes I eat supper with my dh but I'd rather not. He eats way different than I but he's a veterinarian and farmer.

Thanks so much for sharing! I'm exercising as well for health, I just want to tone and be fit, I'd love to run a 5K this year so that is my goal but it's not for weightloss at all, just for personal experience and fitness. How much weight have you lost on IE? and how long have you been on it?

skelley331
06-19-2013, 01:02 PM
Hello to all!

I'm not really hungry when I wake up in the morning so I usually just have a cup of decaf hazelnut coffee to get me going. I listen to my body and when my belly starts rumbling I will eat. Some days I need to eat like a orange or banana mid day but usually i'm not hungry until around 11:30 then I ask myself what sounds good to eat. Normally it's a subway grilled chicken teriyaki salad or some days I may eat a cheeseburger and small fry. For dinner I eat light because i'm not real hungry but then I have evenings where I am. I'm averaging around 2-3 lbs a week so far.

spryng
06-19-2013, 01:12 PM
Hello to all!

I'm not really hungry when I wake up in the morning so I usually just have a cup of decaf hazelnut coffee to get me going. I listen to my body and when my belly starts rumbling I will eat. Some days I need to eat like a orange or banana mid day but usually i'm not hungry until around 11:30 then I ask myself what sounds good to eat. Normally it's a subway grilled chicken teriyaki salad or some days I may eat a cheeseburger and small fry. For dinner I eat light because i'm not real hungry but then I have evenings where I am. I'm averaging around 2-3 lbs a week so far.

wow, that is fantastic! So this may be a dumb question, but how do you know when you are not hungry enough for a full meal, like if you feel hungry, your stomach growling etc, how do you know an orange will satisfy vs lunch? I know that will be my biggest thing to learn, what my hunger NEEDS, do I need to pop in a few grapes and keep going or do I need to stop and eat a meal...I think I need to get away from frozen meals because if I make a frozen entree I'll eat the whole thing whether I feel satisfied half way through or not because 1. I know they are low calories so I want to just eat it all and 2. it seems portioned controlled already so let me just eat it all.. I need to stop doing that. I'm definitely gonna learn a lot here and of course I am still reading the book so I'm sure it will answer a lot of these questions I have so I apologize in advance if I ask things that will be revealed in the book as well.
How about weighing.. does IE encourage us to weigh often? I know on page 1 of this thread the lady there talked about weighing so I'm assuming we still should be and I definitely want to as I am still actively trying to lose weight so I'd like to see my progress but I'm measuring every two weeks as well so I use both as a guage of progress. How often do you all weigh?

spryng
06-19-2013, 03:01 PM
Ok I've been going back and reading some of the old IE threads and found this, so helpful on the hunger!

Assess Your Hunger Level

The hunger scale is a way to describe your level of hunger, by describing it you become more conscious and better able to assess your hunger and need for food. You can lose weight and never gain it back, if you eat only when you’re physically hungry (a 3 on the hunger scale) and only eat until you are satisfied (5 on the hunger scale). If you often eat until you are uncomfortably stuffed you will gain weight, especially when your physical activity is limited.

0 – So hungry that you are not hungry
1 – Headache, shaky, too hungry to care what or how much you eat—you WILL overeat
2 – Losing concentration, grumpy—seriously hungry – your stomach is empty, you must eat now
3 – I’m hungry, stomach growling
4 – Not hungry, but not satisfied
5 – Satisfied, comfortable, not hungry
6 – In slight discomfort, you feel the food
7 – Uncomfortable – sleepy, sluggish, you want to change into loser clothes
8 – “I ate too much – I am stuffed” Very uncomfortable, stomach hurts
9 – Overly stuffed
10 – In pain. Thanksgiving Dinner – take a nap

skelley331
06-19-2013, 04:54 PM
wow, that is fantastic! So this may be a dumb question, but how do you know when you are not hungry enough for a full meal, like if you feel hungry, your stomach growling etc, how do you know an orange will satisfy vs lunch? I know that will be my biggest thing to learn, what my hunger NEEDS, do I need to pop in a few grapes and keep going or do I need to stop and eat a meal...I think I need to get away from frozen meals because if I make a frozen entree I'll eat the whole thing whether I feel satisfied half way through or not because 1. I know they are low calories so I want to just eat it all and 2. it seems portioned controlled already so let me just eat it all.. I need to stop doing that. I'm definitely gonna learn a lot here and of course I am still reading the book so I'm sure it will answer a lot of these questions I have so I apologize in advance if I ask things that will be revealed in the book as well.
How about weighing.. does IE encourage us to weigh often? I know on page 1 of this thread the lady there talked about weighing so I'm assuming we still should be and I definitely want to as I am still actively trying to lose weight so I'd like to see my progress but I'm measuring every two weeks as well so I use both as a guage of progress. How often do you all weigh?

It takes some getting use to on the hunger level. But I failed to mention that on may way into work I stop at starbucks and get my usual Decaf Tall Skinny mocha (only 110 calories but 11gms protein) so by mid morning my belly is growling a little so the orange/banana pretty much satisfies my hunger until lunch. But usually i'm not hungry for lunch until around 2:00. Some days depending on what I eat during the day dinner maybe light or a good meal. But your post above pretty much sums it all up. As far as pushing my plate away I have yet to do that because I use a small lunch plate so I don't over load my meals. I weigh in once a week and eventually will stop that and just use my clothes as a guide line!! :carrot:

spryng
06-20-2013, 08:52 AM
You are close to your goal like myself and I can't wait just to use my clothes and measuring tape as my guide instead of my scale :) I was able to read a couple more chapters in IE last night.. its not a quick read for sure lol I still haven't had a lot of my questions answered by the book yet but I have a feeling they are in there and don't want to keep bombarding you all with questions the author will eventually get to lol But I did do well yesterday, even had two small bite sized candy bars before bed last night. I was hungry, had a craving but didn't want to eat just to eat, didn't want fruit just because I know it's lower in calories and better for me, I wanted to satisfy that hunger and craving together so I probably ignored my hunger for 30 minutes or more until I knew exactly what I wanted! chocolate! lol so the two tiny candy bars hit the spot and I didn't feel guilty for once! I'm trying to throw everything I know about calories/carbs/dieting tips out of my head and just eat what I'm really hungry for. Of course I still want to nourish my body with good food but I don't want low calorie, less carbs to be the reason I'm reaching for it. Its gonna be a long re-learning process for sure but I'm excited about it. :)

skelley331
06-20-2013, 09:17 AM
You are close to your goal like myself and I can't wait just to use my clothes and measuring tape as my guide instead of my scale :) I was able to read a couple more chapters in IE last night.. its not a quick read for sure lol I still haven't had a lot of my questions answered by the book yet but I have a feeling they are in there and don't want to keep bombarding you all with questions the author will eventually get to lol But I did do well yesterday, even had two small bite sized candy bars before bed last night. I was hungry, had a craving but didn't want to eat just to eat, didn't want fruit just because I know it's lower in calories and better for me, I wanted to satisfy that hunger and craving together so I probably ignored my hunger for 30 minutes or more until I knew exactly what I wanted! chocolate! lol so the two tiny candy bars hit the spot and I didn't feel guilty for once! I'm trying to throw everything I know about calories/carbs/dieting tips out of my head and just eat what I'm really hungry for. Of course I still want to nourish my body with good food but I don't want low calorie, less carbs to be the reason I'm reaching for it. Its gonna be a long re-learning process for sure but I'm excited about it. :)

I do know I had to go back and research the IE book from time to time because it is a lot to absorb. Yes it's nice to be able to have that little bit of chocolate and not beat yourself up. I'm gradually getting away from the diet mentality, it will take some getting use to but eventually eating the IE way will be my way completely. I eat mostly good nourishing foods because that's what I want to eat not because it's good for me. But love when I want to eat a York peppermint pattie I can. :carrot:

spryng
06-20-2013, 10:09 AM
Just had to share another small accomplishment.. so this morning (I seriously need to go grocery shopping) I had chips and a cheese/meat dip to eat for breakfast, I put more in the bowl than I needed and more chips than I needed for sure and started to eat, the first couple of bites were yummy but the 4th or 5th bite was.. eh, whatever.. I took guage of how hungry I was and I just wasn't hungry anymore so I gave the rest to my son and brought up a banana to put on my desk in case I need a snack later before lunch since breakfast was so light but I feel completely satisfied right now :) (I work at home btw which is why I'm at my desk lol)

pattygirl63
06-21-2013, 12:34 AM
I so miss you guys. I can't get 3fc to even work for me most of the time. I have typed so many posts and then have 3fc freeze up on me and lose all of it. Doesn't happen on any other site so not sure what it is. I get warnings from McAfee about it a lot. So just for the record, I do try to get here.

I am glad to see so many Newbies and how good everyone is doing.

spryng I love your accomplishment. I've done that some but not to that extent. Congratulations.

As for how often to weigh, Carolr had an article recently if you want to go back and read it of a woman who had learned how to do IE that works for her. I don't remember exactly but I think she weighs everyday, but if I remember correctly and Carolr can correct this if I'm wrong, but how often you weigh should depend on how it works for you. Some IE people don't weigh at all, some monthly, some weekly etc. Everyday is what works for me as it helps me stay honest and on track but if I miss a day or so or can't get to a scale for a while... no big deal because I know it will be okay and I can weigh again when I can. It helps me to see that weight is coming off even if it is only .2 of a lb every once in a while.

I'll check back in when I can.

pattygirl63
06-21-2013, 12:39 AM
Tried to edit but couldn't get it to work.

The article Carolr posted is on page one of this IE thread if you want to read it. It has a lot of good helpful info about weighing etc. That article has really helped me to get to the place that IE works for me. I think it would help any one who reads it.

bookwoman
06-21-2013, 09:30 AM
I've been trying IE for a week now and have had a few revelations...

1. The biggest habit I need to break is of doing anything else while eating. I'm used to eating while reading or watching TV and that just means that I'm not paying attention to my food. Plus I want to keep eating until the other activity is over and that can take a while (which equals a lot more food)

2. If I let myself get overly hungry it's much harder to eat slowly and with intent, the hunger and shakiness overwhelm the taste and pleasure in eating that I'm aiming for. So I've started carrying cheese sticks with me for times when I can't get a real meal for a while. However...

3. Low fat cheddar cheese sticks are a travesty (part-skim mozzarella is OK though)

I've had a pretty good week all in all, it's a relief to not be constantly worrying about how many calories I've had or have left. And letting go of those thoughts seems to have created some space in my psyche for doing other things to take care of my self - taking time to do a little yoga, or going to bed on time and getting a full night's sleep.

On the other hand, I haven't had any real challenges yet, and I do have some coming up this weekend. I'm going to a conference this afternoon which continues all day tomorrow. Having dinner at my mother's house this evening, and with some friends tomorrow evening. All that equals situations where I won't have complete control over what food is available to me. I'm hopeful that this week of new calmness about eating will carry over. :^:

spryng
06-21-2013, 09:39 AM
Pattygirl63 thanks! Yeah I did read that on page 1 so its nice to know I can weigh if I want. I got to the part of the book last night that says to throw out the scale but I'm not ready to do that yet, maybe when I hit maintenance but I still have 15 lbs to lose before then so I want to weigh at least once a week still :)
Speaking of weighing, I did weigh yesterday (thurs are my WI days) and I didn't lose anything this week, didn't gain either so I pulled out the measuring tape and I'm down a half inch in my waist, yay! I'll take progress where ever I can find it :) I probably didn't see that loss on the scale because I didn't exercise at all this week really.. tuesday I did a 12 min HIIT but that was it.. I need to get back to my every other day of C25K and hitting my steps each day again, I just feel better when I do.

So another accomplishment I want to share with you all:

Dinner last night, hubby makes my FAVORITE spaghetti.. I was craving pasta, so all day I listened to my body and ate light etc, dinner I was almost giving myself permission to just go crazy. So I get my bowl and sit down to eat, I eat about half and think I'm honestly fully now, I felt full.. so I thought you know I'll just eat the rest in a bit and put it in the fridge.. well maybe an hour goes by, I'm still smelling the house smell like spaghetti and I just WANT to eat more. I'm not hungry at all but I go get my bowl.. I sit down with it... I just HOLD it.. hold it.. hold it.. look at it and think, what am I doing? I'm NOT hungry... I probably held that dang bowl for two hours! then I threw it out.. I know this all sounds silly but this is HUGE for me! spaghetti is my kryptonite, most pasta dishes are but I just told myself if I get "real" hunger later I'll heat up another bowl.. well I never did get hungry. So before I went to bed I told myself if I wake up hungry I'll eat some for breakfast. I just keep reminding myself to get out of that "last supper" mentality that even if the kids ate it all etc we can always make another batch (we have plenty of leftovers but still, had to remind myself its not the last time I'll have spaghetti lol) so anyway, there is my accomplishment for yesterday.. I am taking it day by day for sure.

I do have a question.. do any of you enjoy a glass of wine etc still? I had a half a glass before dinner yesterday, normally I'd have a full glass so this too was a good thing for me, but it got me thinking, since wine has calories etc should we only drink it if we are hungry??? how do you incorporate alcohol?? The book hasn't talked at all about it yet, I read a few more pages last night, I've been going through it very slowly, making notes and highlighting passages that is gonna help me.

spryng
06-21-2013, 09:47 AM
I've been trying IE for a week now and have had a few revelations...

1. The biggest habit I need to break is of doing anything else while eating. I'm used to eating while reading or watching TV and that just means that I'm not paying attention to my food. Plus I want to keep eating until the other activity is over and that can take a while (which equals a lot more food)

2. If I let myself get overly hungry it's much harder to eat slowly and with intent, the hunger and shakiness overwhelm the taste and pleasure in eating that I'm aiming for. So I've started carrying cheese sticks with me for times when I can't get a real meal for a while. However...

3. Low fat cheddar cheese sticks are a travesty (part-skim mozzarella is OK though)

I've had a pretty good week all in all, it's a relief to not be constantly worrying about how many calories I've had or have left. And letting go of those thoughts seems to have created some space in my psyche for doing other things to take care of my self - taking time to do a little yoga, or going to bed on time and getting a full night's sleep.

On the other hand, I haven't had any real challenges yet, and I do have some coming up this weekend. I'm going to a conference this afternoon which continues all day tomorrow. Having dinner at my mother's house this evening, and with some friends tomorrow evening. All that equals situations where I won't have complete control over what food is available to me. I'm hopeful that this week of new calmness about eating will carry over. :^:

You sound like you are doing fantastic! I feel like you, its so foreign to now worry about "am I eating enough?" "Am I going over my calories?" gonna take me quite awhile to break the diet mentality as well but I'm excited about doing so :) I think with the challenges you are gonna do great! You are already thinking ahead about it which is good, I did an entire weekend of camping (think smores and lots and lots of junk food lol ) and I didn't over eat once, I just kept thinking, I honestly don't want to feel stuffed and then I'll be sleepy etc and for me when I'm stuffed my stomach will bloat and I didn't want bloat in my bathing suit lol my stomach is already my problem area, don't need to enhance it LOL yeah I know, crazy thoughts but it worked for me LOL I have learned that if I only eat until satisfied I just feel thin, even after a meal, I love that feeling. I know since I'm still losing weight I don't look thin but it's a feeling I like, I don't feel blah from too much food, I'm not bloated and I'm not sleepy or running to the bathroom from eating too much, all those are wins in my book :) But definitely keep up the great work! You are gonna do great this weekend :)

bookwoman
06-21-2013, 10:59 AM
But definitely keep up the great work! You are gonna do great this weekend :)

Thanks Spryng! It's so nice to hear encouraging words:carrot:

carolr3639
06-22-2013, 11:16 AM
How much weight have you lost on IE? and how long have you been on it?I started this thread in 2006. I lost 40lb but gained some back. I'm down to where I was before. I've never got the last 30 off but hoping to this time.

kellycg102
06-22-2013, 05:22 PM
Ok so I have downloaded the Intuitive Eating book, lots to read but I am going to try again to get off the diet wagon called Yo Yo and give this a shot. I am curious about one thing tho. Working out, it really suppresses my appetite, so I am guessing I still go with my hungry pain signals? So much to learn, so hard to let go of everything I have learned over the years......gotta eat breakfast to get your metabolism going, gotta eat 6 small meals a day to keep it going, lower your carbs, don't eat after 7pm, eat within an hour of working out...on and on. I love the feeling of eating and swallowing and chewing the food, so it will be hard to wait for those hunger signs. Feeling full is another challenge.........I can eat 250 lb men under the table especially after this last diet of reducing carbs for over 20 weeks my binging has been at its all time worst. Thank you for all the information and posts, it is helpful for us newbies.

spryng
06-23-2013, 08:41 PM
So I'm still reading the book, I'm almost done with it but still haven't read anything about alcohol...how do you incorporate it into your lifestyle?
So this weekend I've been struggling....and I don't even know why. So I keep reading IE and it doesn't talk about losing the weight with IE. I know it says to throw out our diet mentality and to not weigh etc but I also thought by listening to our bodies and only eating until satisfied we would lose weight nice and slow and get to our goal weights, am I wrong? I was on another forum and it wouldn't even let you join their IE group if you bring up weightloss...what? Why? I thought IE was a tool for weightloss so why can't we talk about it? You find the book in the diet/health section of the bookstore (online or physical) so anyway, needless to say I didn't join that group lol but I'm struggling because I'm hearing negatives, "it was eating when I'm hungry that got me fat" one person tells me. Well technically it was eating too much that got you and me there but I didn't argue, it was pointless. You know how some people like to just be "right" maybe it's because my family reunion is less than a month away and I was hoping I'd be 10 lbs thinner by then but I have no idea how IE will get me there and I definitely don't want to limit calories or count and track anything...sigh...ok, I'm just having a bad day. I feel like I ate too much because earlier when I was hungry I didn't know what I was hungry for so I ate some chips and salsa...nope, craving still there...I had some lo mien (just a few bites) nope didn't do it...3 bites of gelato? Nope....one chilli cheese dog? Yep I found it! But I felt so guilty eating all that food.... :( I felt too full but not stuffed, right in between. It's almost 8pm and I'm still not hungry so I guess I won't be eating dinner, not because I'm restricting but because I'm just not hungry from all that at lunch (breakfast was 1 biscuit with sausage gravy) so probably all in all I'm ok but why do I feel guilty? Tomorrow is another day....just needed to vent and get some support. Thanks for listening.

Andrea85
06-23-2013, 09:55 PM
Ugh....fell off the wagon last week. I snacked when I wasn't hungry waaaay too much! Sugar cravings came back, carb cravings came back....yuk. Getting back on track tomorrow!

spryng
06-24-2013, 02:52 PM
Ugh....fell off the wagon last week. I snacked when I wasn't hungry waaaay too much! Sugar cravings came back, carb cravings came back....yuk. Getting back on track tomorrow!

Hang in there Andrea, just keep posting here, I come check this thread at least hourly so if you need support I am here :)

so I feel a bit better than I did yesterday... right now I'm posting so I will ignore my stomach lol I ate a wonderful light breakfast as that is all my hunger was asking for (biscuit with egg) I usually eat lunch around 11 but I had meeting after meeting so I just now was able to eat lunch and I was ravenous! But I made me a plate of leftover spaghetti... just a small normal portion and now I'm trying to let it hit "bottom" because I was so hungry I felt like an empty cave.. so far so good :)

I did have a small feat to share.. on saturday all the kids wanted icecream so normally we'd go someplace where they make the icecream for you etc so you get bigger portions than what you really need and you might have a hard time stopping when you are satisfied, so instead of going to one of those places we went to Yum-Yos which is a self serve frozen yogurt place, it was so neat! They charge by the ounce so you control what you get and how much you get. I was able to get about 4 oz of dark chocolate with some whipped cream on top with some slivered almonds etc, YUM! and I could eat the whole cup because I knew it was a small, perfect portion for me, no need to feel bad throwing any away or tempted to eat more than you need just because it's still there. I'll definitely start going there more often to curb my icecream cravings :)

JoJoP
06-24-2013, 03:49 PM
Hi folks!

I guess what I'm doing is intuitive eating? Not sure, as I haven't read the book (though I want to!) but I'm not counting calories or anything...I'm trying to limit salt and sugar intake, and eating healthy (but filling) foods, but I'm eating only when hungry and only eating that cookie or candy when I REALLY want one (which is pretty rare these days), and even then, limiting myself to a small portion without feeling deprived.

I worry sometimes that I'm eating *too little* though...this is my average daily intake:

Breakfast: big bowl of frozen veggies with pasta sauce and herbs, 2 eggs on toast, coffee with milk

Lunch: non-fat greek yoghurt with fruit

Dinner: bean burrito with salsa, usually some sort of veggie side my mom's made; might instead have a reasonable portion of soup or chicken or something my parents are eating

For snacks, I have low-sodium v-8, veggies, fruit, nuts (PISTACHIOOOOSSSS!), and I inevitably have 2 more coffees-with-milk throughout the day. I also drink a LOT of water/herbal tea throughout the day.

If for some reason I still feel hungry during the day (rare), I have a granola bar (one with oats, nuts, and fruit).

I don't have cravings anymore.

spryng
06-24-2013, 03:56 PM
Welcome JoJoP! :)
The nice thing is with IE you don't need to worry if you aren't eating "enough" as long as you are listening to your body and eating when hungry and stopping when satisfied you are eating enough :) One of the big principles with IE is learning to throw away the diet mentality.. if we pick a low calorie snack because we are craving that particular snack, great! eat it! But if we are picking it just because it's low calorie, then we are sliding back into dieting mentality. The biggest thing with IE is not just eating only when you are hungry but also only eating what you are truly hungry for! if that is an apple, enjoy it! if that is a decadent piece of chocolate! enjoy that too! it's very individual, the great thing is the longer I put those principles into use the more I do crave healthier options, I've been craving caprese salad like crazy lately! why? because I know I can have that icecream anytime I want and something lighter and cooler sounds good most days (i like my veggies more in the summer anyway) Check out the book The Overfed Head, that is an amazing success story of someone who put IE to use and went from 300+ lbs down to 160 and is easily maintaining. Just google The Overfed Head PDF and you can get a free copy :)

JoJoP
06-24-2013, 04:05 PM
Thank you, spryng! :)

I am lucky in that a recent medication change has left me nearly craving-free, and with a lower appetite than I used to have. I occasionally have some cravings (not very intense, though) at night, but I have a smallish bowl of Cheerios with milk and feel satisfied, and not guilty at all.

What's odd is that usually, when I feel hungry, it's like...light hunger pangs in my stomach but no feeling of "I want to eat!" Like I've lost a lot of interest in food (which used to intensely preoccupy me). So I don't really eat for pleasure much anymore, just so that I don't feel hungry, although I DO enjoy the foods I eat and always make sure I feel *satisfied* and not just full/not hungry anymore.

I only worry a bit about my calorie intake being too low because I'm concerned that at some point I might start losing muscle and not just fat (which is why I try to do arm and leg weights every day). So far, however, I'm gaining a nice amount of muscle, and I'm enjoying feeling stronger!

I also feel like I should walk at least a little bit each day, as I know how healthy walking is, and my job is pretty sedentary. But in the scheme of things, these aren't really horrid problems to have, and I'm sure I'll find a way to deal with them :)

spryng
06-24-2013, 04:16 PM
Are you losing weight each week? My job is pretty sedentary as well so I have to make sure I get extra steps in and doing some strength training each week as well.

JoJoP
06-24-2013, 04:24 PM
Are you losing weight each week? My job is pretty sedentary as well so I have to make sure I get extra steps in and doing some strength training each week as well.

I have been yeah (it's been 2 months). I gained a few pounds this past week, but I fit into pants I wasn't able to last week, so I think the weight is just water retention or new muscle weight. Either way I'm not worried =)

I lovveee freeweights! So easy! I'm too lazy to go to the gym XD

spryng
06-24-2013, 04:28 PM
well I was gonna say as long as you weren't losing too rapidly your calorie intake has probably been spot on and you don't need to worry about being too low :) I have been doing this about 3 weeks, lost 3 lbs in the first two, last week I dind't gain or lose but I lost 1/2 inch in my waist which is a win for me :)

spryng
06-25-2013, 10:07 AM
So just a small feat I wanted to share from yesterday... so I ate my dinner, leftover spaghetti, ate only until satisfied... then my hubby comes home with snacks and a movie! ugh! he only got enough for all of us for the movie so if I didn't eat it then it would be gone.. that last supper mentality definitely set in, if I don't at least eat a few bites I won't get any at all... BUT I wasn't hungry, I was still satisfied from my dinner so after wrestling with my brain and stomach I decided to pass on the snacks.. I just wasn't hungry so I could not justify even taking one bite. I felt so much better when I made my mind up to pass on the food and this morning?? I was down a lb!!!! woo hoo! if I would have caved that would not have happened... so its a win! :) somedays I fight with myself about, will this plan REALLY work in losing weight or just help me maintain? well I guess its helping me lose weight, I'm down 4 lbs total now.. I'll take it :) Anyway, just wanted to share that little accomplishment.
Oh and I finished the IE book last night, and it STILL never talked about how to include alcohol.. so Im gonna ask you all again, how would you include your wine etc? only drink it if you are hungry or is it ok when you aren't??????? I don't want this to be my stumbling block. I like to have a glass or two of wine each week.

carolr3639
06-25-2013, 09:23 PM
I'm down 4 lbs total now..That's great!

spryng
06-26-2013, 02:07 PM
How is everyone doing today? This thread is very quiet lol

so at 11 today I wanted to eat lunch just because I wanted to eat lunch.. no other reason. My brain said "its your normal lunch time, lets eat!" man did I have to fight myself! I just told myself I'm not actually hungry yet.. wait until your stomach grumbles (that is my sure sign of hunger) so I kept on working and trying to ignore my BRAIN :) it worked, I finally got hungry around 12:45 so then I gave myself permission to have lunch. Everyday I get a little better, everyday I'm little more intune with my body. But it's still a process, I still have moments where I want to eat or snack just to eat or snack, because something sounds good or I know will taste good but I then stop and think, am I actually hungry??? nope... then WAIT lol you can have it as soon as you are really hungry. Baby steps for sure.

jazbcure
06-26-2013, 02:49 PM
Hi everyone,

I have been lurking in this thread for awhile and have decided to join in the discussion. I have successfully went from 220 to 180 in about a year and a half using a form of intuitive eating. It took some time to form new habits but I can honestly say I don't eat when I am not hungry anymore. I have also been slowly changing the types of food I eat to try and incorporate healthier less calorie dense items.
Although I am happy with my weight loss I am struggling to lose more. I have been at 180 for about 8 months now. I don't want to be on a more structured diet because it leads to disordered eating for me. I would like to lose the rest of the weight with the intuitive eating approach if possible.
I think my biggest problem right now is trying to eat intuitively while keeping to a very structured schedule work wise. Most of my weight was lost when I had a more flexible schedule and could basically eat whenever I wanted. Now there are only specific times of the day I can eat and they don't mesh well with my natural hunger schedule. I am also finding it difficult to incorporate a family dinner into my day while intuitively eating. I am always very hungry in the afternoons when I get off work and would prefer just to eat as soon as I get home. The days I do that I am not hungry for the rest of the night. But many days I will eat something when I get home, then my husband and kids want dinner a few hours later. I end up eating with them. I want to spend time with them and its hard to just sit there and not eat anything. Anyone been through similar struggles?

spryng
06-26-2013, 03:56 PM
Welcome Jazbcure! and congrats on losing 40 lbs by listening to your body! That is amazing! :)
So at work, what kind of job do you have? could you take snacks so you can honor your hunger when working? gronola bars, fruit, nuts, something? It sounds to me like you've hit a set point, was 180 a weight you hit in the past and were at for some time? I know when I get to weight I was at for a time period when I get down to it again it's hard to move past it.
Maybe if you are hungry as soon as you get home just have a small snack of nuts or something so you have a real appetite for dinner with your family, so you don't feel like you are eating two dinners just so you can spend that dinner time with them.
Also, what do you do for exercise? if you are maintaning so well by listening to your body you might want to vamp up the workouts so you are eating exactly the same but the workouts will burn some extra calories and get that scale moving again. Plus if you work on strenth training you will build more healthy muscle which in turn naturally burns more calories for you as well :)

skelley331
06-26-2013, 08:00 PM
hello everyone, I read IE and the overfed head and i'm trying really hard to get in sync with it all. I've been going to the MRC center since june 22n'd 2012 and I lost 34 lbs and 29 1/2 inches. Went into maintenance jan 4th 2013 and after two months my cravings came back I gained back 10lbs thankfully I've been able to keep it only at 10lbs gained, I do really good during the day but nights are my problems. I've gained back about 4-5 inches mostly around my midsection, the belly fat is what they call it at MRC. I really want to do the IE way of eating but I'm wanting to know if anyone doesn't eat breakfast? We have always been told that you must eat breakfast to jumpstart your metabolism. Well I'm 57 yrs young and I don't require a lot of food like I did when I was much younger. I'm not hungry in the mornings but i'm having a hard time getting past not eating three meals a day. So starting tomorrow i'm going to not eat until my belly growls so I can actually feel what its' like to be hungry. I would love to lose the ten lbs I gained and lose the fat around my midsection.

Spryng you are doing awesome!!! And I agree it's quiet on here but let's keep up with the posts. I'm in Indiana so we might be on a time difference. Thanks for your input.

kellycg102
06-26-2013, 10:44 PM
I am still reading the book in between a very busy schedule, not dieting right now, trying to eat only when hungry but finding it difficult. Years of dieting is hard to erase. When I let myself eat food I want it just leads to me wanting more and craving more. Trying to really think of eating as healthy fuel for my body but so hard. I baked for the first time today, banana chocolate chip bread......yep still not good for me to be around. I allowed myself some today and still wanting more. Worst thing is I work at a weight loss clinic and after my coaching days, I feel like I should get back to the diet. I hate feeling the few lbs I have put on but trying to let that go....... I have been working out everyday, because I feel better doing it, I plan on hopefully doing that 6 days a week or 5 maybe.

Good for those of you succeeding at IE, I hope I will get there!

spryng
06-27-2013, 08:50 AM
hello everyone, I read IE and the overfed head and i'm trying really hard to get in sync with it all. I've been going to the MRC center since june 22n'd 2012 and I lost 34 lbs and 29 1/2 inches. Went into maintenance jan 4th 2013 and after two months my cravings came back I gained back 10lbs thankfully I've been able to keep it only at 10lbs gained, I do really good during the day but nights are my problems. I've gained back about 4-5 inches mostly around my midsection, the belly fat is what they call it at MRC. I really want to do the IE way of eating but I'm wanting to know if anyone doesn't eat breakfast? We have always been told that you must eat breakfast to jumpstart your metabolism. Well I'm 57 yrs young and I don't require a lot of food like I did when I was much younger. I'm not hungry in the mornings but i'm having a hard time getting past not eating three meals a day. So starting tomorrow i'm going to not eat until my belly growls so I can actually feel what its' like to be hungry. I would love to lose the ten lbs I gained and lose the fat around my midsection.

Spryng you are doing awesome!!! And I agree it's quiet on here but let's keep up with the posts. I'm in Indiana so we might be on a time difference. Thanks for your input.
I know exactly how you feel! once you are in maintenance the thought of having to continue that very strict or restricted diet is cumbersome and overwhelming, it works for losing the weight but FOREVER? that was always my thoughts too so of course as soon as you try to eat "normally" the weight packs back on. I love with IE if you are not hungry don't eat, right? that includes breakfast, so if you are not hungry in the morning, throw out that "diet mentality of YOU HAVE TO START YOUR DAY WITH BREAKFAST" and just listen to your body. I was in the habit of eating something within 10 minutes of waking up, my body was no where ready to eat yet but I thought I needed to "start my metabolism" so I ate. Now I just wait for my body to tell me, so instead of eating at 6:30 I have been eating around 8am or even later somedays.. I just wait and wait for my stomach to turn on and grumble lol
I am still reading the book in between a very busy schedule, not dieting right now, trying to eat only when hungry but finding it difficult. Years of dieting is hard to erase. When I let myself eat food I want it just leads to me wanting more and craving more. Trying to really think of eating as healthy fuel for my body but so hard. I baked for the first time today, banana chocolate chip bread......yep still not good for me to be around. I allowed myself some today and still wanting more. Worst thing is I work at a weight loss clinic and after my coaching days, I feel like I should get back to the diet. I hate feeling the few lbs I have put on but trying to let that go....... I have been working out everyday, because I feel better doing it, I plan on hopefully doing that 6 days a week or 5 maybe.

Good for those of you succeeding at IE, I hope I will get there!

Years of dieting IS hard to erase! I have to remind myself of that constantly! am I choosing that frozen meal because I LOVE the taste/flavor etc or because I know it's low in calories etc.. did I just choose that apple because I was craving a cool crisp apple or because it's low in calories when I really want some chocolate.. I'm constantly trying to "check" myself so I can stop the dieting mentality too. For me it's 15 years of habits and for some it's 40+ years or more, so it's TOUGH. You are in a very unique situation, working at a weight loss clinic and trying to do the IE way of life, you probably see people really suceeding on the plans your clinic offers and think "I should just get back on that" so I bet you struggle all the time. Hang in there though, I think if we can keep at this IE we are gonna be so happy in the end. No restrictions, no guilt, eat when hungry even if all we want for dinner is that delicious banana chocolate chip bread, that is ok! have it! :) I think I'm gonna pick up the book, How to have your cake and skinny jeans too, I heard it's really good on the IE way of life. Anything to help keep it at the forefront for me seems to be working.

bookwoman
06-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Back online.... I've been waaay too busy for the past several days. Thought I was doing pretty well with eating but then had a hard day yesterday (which also reminded me that I need to check in here daily)

I wasn't feeling hungry yesterday, and ended up snacking a lot rather than eating any full meals. But then I went to my book club meeting in the evening where there was a LOT of food and wine and overdid it. Fell right back into my old habit of going back for seconds (and thirds). Ended up feeling stuffed, slept badly, and still feel bloated today :halfempty

The good news is that I've been able to call a halt to the negative thinking that started, the self-defeating messages like "I'm so bad for eating too much" "I have not willpower at all" and instead look at this as a learning experience and get right back to honoring my hunger signals and treating myself well.

spryng
06-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Back online.... I've been waaay too busy for the past several days. Thought I was doing pretty well with eating but then had a hard day yesterday (which also reminded me that I need to check in here daily)

I wasn't feeling hungry yesterday, and ended up snacking a lot rather than eating any full meals. But then I went to my book club meeting in the evening where there was a LOT of food and wine and overdid it. Fell right back into my old habit of going back for seconds (and thirds). Ended up feeling stuffed, slept badly, and still feel bloated today :halfempty

The good news is that I've been able to call a halt to the negative thinking that started, the self-defeating messages like "I'm so bad for eating too much" "I have not willpower at all" and instead look at this as a learning experience and get right back to honoring my hunger signals and treating myself well.

I love your attitude about it! You also did not berate yourself to where you just said "screw it" and go on a feeding frenzy for several days or weeks like maybe we did in the past, everyday we are re-learning, you are doing so great!

skelley331
06-28-2013, 08:41 AM
spryng: I love the Have your Cake and Skinny jeans too book, it's awesome, she's got another book coming out soon, i'm waiting to read it. Right now i'm reading Ditching Diets by Gillian Riley, How to lose weight in a way you can maintain. She also wrote "Eating less: Say goodbye to overeating"

spryng
06-28-2013, 09:57 AM
spryng: I love the Have your Cake and Skinny jeans too book, it's awesome, she's got another book coming out soon, i'm waiting to read it. Right now i'm reading Ditching Diets by Gillian Riley, How to lose weight in a way you can maintain. She also wrote "Eating less: Say goodbye to overeating"

Good to know! I'm gonna download it today on my Nook :)

well last night I ate until stuffed for the first time in like 3-4 weeks.. I felt horrible. My DH made my favorite home made pasta.. chicken and veggies in a cream sauce, all home made, it's soooooo good. After one bowl I was full but it tasted so good that I went for seconds... I knew even putting it in the bowl I was full and I needed to stop but I just wouldn't... I ate half of the second bowl and I was stuffed, like miserable, stomach bloated and hurt stuffed! I felt so bad afterwards but it was soooo darn good! I even went for a walk to try and help my poor body digest etc and even at 11 pm last night I was still miserably stuffed, it just wasn't going anywhere fast. Lesson learned, I HATE feeling that way, it physically hurts and is uncomfortable to be that full! Never again.. :(

so I know I've asked this before, at least like 2-3 times now but how do you incorporate alcohol into this way of eating?? since it contains calories do you only drink if you are hungry? only with a meal maybe??? I love a glass or two of wine each week and I'm not sure how to enjoy that! please please someone let me know how you work it in. The IE book NEVER talked about it so I have no idea.

bookwoman
06-28-2013, 10:22 AM
Regarding breakfast - I've been struggling with this too. When I don't eat first thing in the morning (because I'm NOT HUNGRY) I feel like I'm disobeying every teacher, parent, and doctor that I've ever known. Like I'm one of those bad kids who smokes behind the school and reads comic books and doesn't eat breakfast. :devil: Sure to come to a bad end and contribute to the downfall of civilization.

OK, maybe I'm exaggerating, but it's amazing how ingrained all these rules are.

I have an interesting weekend coming up, I'll have two of my nephews visiting, ages 19 and 6. The 19 year old eats like a vacuum cleaner, and the 6 year old just wants play food. I'm planning meals around things like spaghetti casserole that will be fun and easy for us all to have just as much or little as we want.

spryng
06-28-2013, 10:34 AM
Regarding breakfast - I've been struggling with this too. When I don't eat first thing in the morning (because I'm NOT HUNGRY) I feel like I'm disobeying every teacher, parent, and doctor that I've ever known. Like I'm one of those bad kids who smokes behind the school and reads comic books and doesn't eat breakfast. :devil: Sure to come to a bad end and contribute to the downfall of civilization.

OK, maybe I'm exaggerating, but it's amazing how ingrained all these rules are.

I have an interesting weekend coming up, I'll have two of my nephews visiting, ages 19 and 6. The 19 year old eats like a vacuum cleaner, and the 6 year old just wants play food. I'm planning meals around things like spaghetti casserole that will be fun and easy for us all to have just as much or little as we want.

That was too funny! Like I'm one of those bad kids who smokes behind the school and reads comic books and doesn't eat breakfast but so true! lol spaghetti casserole sounds amazing, spaghetti is one of my favorite meals, can you share the recipe please? Your 19 year old nephew reminded me of the thread to not eat like a man, lol We are tiny sport cars and they are big mack trucks, lol we can't eat like them, darn it lol

skelley331
06-28-2013, 01:59 PM
Well today I didn't eat anything until 1:55 pm, I didn't get the growling belly but I could tell I was starting to feel hungry, hope this isn't bad. I did have a starbucks decaf grande skinny mocha, has 15gms protein and little fat. So maybe that's why my belly didn't growl. As far as drinking alcohol i'm not sure how that would incorporate in a meal. I drink tons of water all day and it keeps me full too. I on occasion have a peach daqiari. I wish I could get rid of the fat around my mid-section I feel so bloated all the time. :(

JoJoP
06-28-2013, 03:39 PM
Gosh darnit!! My library system has ONE copy of the book and it's currently being inter-library loaned :(

I downloaded a sample of the ebook version and really like it but would much rather borrow than buy it.

Andrea85
06-28-2013, 04:59 PM
I've done better this week. Even last night, my guy took me out to dinner and I got an AMAZING seafood dish (amazing being tons of fresh seafood, a light sauce, and veggies on the side). Even after 2 glasses of wine (a rarity!), I still had enough wits about me to recognize when I was satisfied (NOT full), and take the rest home.
(I may have stopped for frozen yogurt on the way home...but since I do not have it often, and I have done well the rest of the week, I am not focusing on giving into that craving!).

I'm having a hard time with breakfast. I LOVE breakfast, and I normally am hungry within an hour or two of waking up. However, I wake up so early for my job that I am not always hungry at 5:30am. If I don't eat it then, my only options for breakfast are 1) wait for a break and go buy it (which, while I have a nutritious option, is outside of my budget), and 2) bring something that will not spoil while it sits in my bag (we have no fridge/microwave options at my work). Plus, by the time I am hungry, it hits me HARD so a few hard boiled eggs won't do!

One of the habits I am trying hard to break is not being so afraid of being a little hungry. I used to eat before leaving the house all the time, not out of hunger at the moment but because I didn't want to be in a situation where I either had to buy food or had to stay hungry. I've definitely made progress, so I hope I am not reinforcing my old habit with this breakfast thing!

What is your opinion: if I know I am normally hungry within an hour or two anyways, is it really a big deal to eat before I am actually hungry?

carolr3639
06-28-2013, 08:17 PM
I'm hungry pretty soon after I wake up in fact that's what sometimes gets me up around 7am. I'd say go ahead and eat.

skelley331
06-28-2013, 08:59 PM
Okay so I posted below that today I didn't eat until 1:55 p.m. because I simply wasn't hungry. Now I did have my starbucks decaf skinny mocha so maybe that helped not being hungry. So at 1:55 p.m. I had a subway chicken teriakyi sweet onion chicken salad with a few Keebler crackers and I did eat all of it but I was satisfied not overfed. I got off work at 5:00 got home around 5:30-5:40 and I had put a sirloin tip roast in my crock pot for the day. I wasn't hungry just yet so I did some things around the house, load of laundry and then around 6:30 or so I had a little growl so I fixed dinner and guess what? I actually for the first time ever left some food on my plate because I was satisfied. YAHOOO!!! I feel great and it's 9:00 p.m and I have no cravings what so ever, usually by now i'm snacking on whatever I can find. This is amazing. One day at a time!!! :carrot::carrot:

spryng
06-30-2013, 07:49 PM
How is everyone doing this weekend? Im almost finished withe Have your cake and skinny jeans too, wow, I wish I would have read it before the official IE book because this book is so much better! I really like how she describes true hunger vs psuedohunger, Im definitely learnkng alot. :)

skelley331
06-30-2013, 07:58 PM
Hello, had a good weekend, had a family reunion and unfortunately I overate!! :( But it's a new day and I didn't beat myself up. I had a good time and enjoyed meeting a lot of my husbands family. I'm slowly getting use to the IE way but I know there will be bumps along the way and that's okay because it is my choice.

Spryng: I agree I wish I would have read Have your Cake and Skinny jeans before IE it makes more sense. I'm reading Ditching Diets and its really good.:carrot:

jazbcure
07-01-2013, 01:05 PM
Welcome Jazbcure! and congrats on losing 40 lbs by listening to your body! That is amazing! :)
So at work, what kind of job do you have? could you take snacks so you can honor your hunger when working? gronola bars, fruit, nuts, something? It sounds to me like you've hit a set point, was 180 a weight you hit in the past and were at for some time? I know when I get to weight I was at for a time period when I get down to it again it's hard to move past it.
Maybe if you are hungry as soon as you get home just have a small snack of nuts or something so you have a real appetite for dinner with your family, so you don't feel like you are eating two dinners just so you can spend that dinner time with them.
Also, what do you do for exercise? if you are maintaning so well by listening to your body you might want to vamp up the workouts so you are eating exactly the same but the workouts will burn some extra calories and get that scale moving again. Plus if you work on strenth training you will build more healthy muscle which in turn naturally burns more calories for you as well :)

Thanks for the suggestions. :-)
I really think my biggest problem is stress and anxiety during the work week. I have always dealt with a problem of comfort eating. While I have made huge strides in that area I still end up just feeling physically more hungry on work days than on days off. When I get home from work that starving feeling is real hunger but amplified by my stress. I have been making a real effort to change the habit of unwinding with food after a rough day. When I get home from work I am going to take a walk to help release some of my pent up energy from the day and then try to relax in a non food way until my family gets home. I always seem to do better with these things with people around.

I do know that I need to workout more. I am fairly active in my day to day life. Right now I am doing a lot of walking, running around in the park with my kids, swimming, things like that. I used to do weight training and really loved it but I kinda gave up when my gym membership expired. I really want to get back into it.

jazbcure
07-01-2013, 01:11 PM
I'm having a hard time with breakfast. I LOVE breakfast, and I normally am hungry within an hour or two of waking up. However, I wake up so early for my job that I am not always hungry at 5:30am. If I don't eat it then, my only options for breakfast are 1) wait for a break and go buy it (which, while I have a nutritious option, is outside of my budget), and 2) bring something that will not spoil while it sits in my bag (we have no fridge/microwave options at my work). Plus, by the time I am hungry, it hits me HARD so a few hard boiled eggs won't do!

One of the habits I am trying hard to break is not being so afraid of being a little hungry. I used to eat before leaving the house all the time, not out of hunger at the moment but because I didn't want to be in a situation where I either had to buy food or had to stay hungry. I've definitely made progress, so I hope I am not reinforcing my old habit with this breakfast thing!

What is your opinion: if I know I am normally hungry within an hour or two anyways, is it really a big deal to eat before I am actually hungry?

I struggle with breakfast too. My job is such that I can only eat during break times so I don't have the luxury of snacking while I work if I get hungry. I think I need to get over the fear of hunger. I often eat before work because I don't want to be hungry at work. Being a little hungry is not the end of the world. I get my first break not too far into the workday. I keep trying to remind myself of that.

I would say to eat if its a choice between being not quite hungry yet or starving a few hours later.

bookwoman
07-02-2013, 10:23 AM
I had a good weekend with my nephews, but could definitely see a difference from when I'm alone and can just sit and focus on eating and my satisfaction level. Having two kids there, along with all the activity and talking, meant that I was eating in a more distracted manner than usual. Still I didn't do too badly.

I've also noticed that when I get myself in tune with IE for a day or two I start to feel more confident and calm and happier in general. And that's a good feeling to strive for.

Oh - and note to Spryng -you asked me for my recipe for baked spaghetti. I don't have a recipe per se, but here's how I make it:

Cook 8-12 ounces of spaghetti (depending on how big a casserole pan you have), drain and set aside. I use Ancient Harvest corn/quinoa pasta, BTW.
Cook ground beef (or turkey, or sausage or whatever you prefer) along with some diced onion & peppers & garlic & mushrooms (as you see fit). You could leave out the meat too if you prefer vegetarian.
Add a couple jars of pasta sauce to the meat mixture. Don't skimp on the sauce, this dish is better juicy than dry.
Beat an egg or two and about a half cup of milk together and mix it in with the pasta. Then stir in 4-8 ounces of shredded cheese (whatever variety you like or have on hand)
Pour the spaghetti mix into a 9X13 or larger casserole pan. Pour the meat/sauce mixture over it. Top with another 8 oz of shredded cheese (mozzarella is good on the top but anything will do)
Bake at 350 for 20 minutes or until the top is bubbly. Let it sit for 10 minutes before serving.

spryng
07-02-2013, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the recipe! Looks delicious! :)

My week has been pretty good so far. Still working on pseudo hunger vs true hunger but I'm doing a good job so far. My dh wanted to make me a gluten free cake last night but I turned him down because I had just finished dinner and was completely satisfied and knew I wouldn't be hungry again before bed so nope, I'll pass, maybe I'll have some on the 4th :)

Anyone have big holiday plans? We are doing the 4th at our house this year, not sure what all we are making yet, I really want shish kabobs over some rice, Mmmmmmm...

skelley331
07-02-2013, 09:11 PM
Hi everyone!

My husband and I are leaving wed around 4:00 pm heading to Louisville, KY for for days to watch our oldest grandson (15 yrs) play baseball with his traveling team. Next week they go to East cobb, Ga for a week, he's a left hand pitcher and plays left center, right center, third base and sometimes 1st. Lol very versatile!!! I'm excited because he's been playing in tournaments for 4 wks and this is the first time we will get to go and watch him play. Staying at a hotel so i'm hoping all goes well with eating.

I hope everyone has a safe and fun 4th of July!!! :carrot::carrot:

bookwoman
07-03-2013, 08:30 AM
I'm going to be traveling as well, but more for work than pleasure.

In addition to my "day job" as a librarian, I am also a musician and that means that I'm often working at that job on holidays. So this afternoon I'll be driving about 5 hours, staying overnight at a motel, performing all day on the 4th and then driving home late. From what I remember of this gig most of the food available is of the funnel cake and hot dog variety so I'm packing a small cooler of fruit and nuts and cheese so I'll have plenty of GF snacks that I can get to.

On the good side I'll be busy and I generally don't have problems with wanting to overeat when I'm busy. I think a lot of my mindless eating crops up when I get bored.

I have this coming weekend completely free though, and I'm planning to relax and have my holiday then.

Have a Happy Fourth everyone!

spryng
07-03-2013, 11:10 AM
Yeah tomorrow won't be a big deal for eating but this weekend DH and I are going out of town to meet up with some friends for an adult only weekend. I desperately need it, I've been surrounded by 7 kids all summer and need some adult conversation and an adult drink or two lol I'm not sure if it will be a challenge or not though, my friend in which we are visiting is an amazing cook and she knows I'm gluten free so she's planning on making all these dishes "just for me" which I keep telling her not to. Don't go out of your way for me, just make what you want to make and I'll eat what I can. If they make "special" stuff for me then I feel obligated to eat it or eat more of it to make them feel good for making it.. it's a double edge sword for sure. So what would YOU do? I'm gonna try my best to not get sucked into feeling like I need to over eat to show her how much I appreciate the effort and the food but just eat the IE way and verbally rave about it all to make her see how much I appreciate the effort. I don't want to over eat and feel stuffed, when I'm stuffed I just feel miserable and don't wanna get off the couch or bed to do anything and this weekend I want to feel light and energetic as we are planning some fun shopping, maybe a water park, casino etc.. I need to NOT over eat :)

carolr3639
07-03-2013, 11:13 AM
So what would YOU do? I'd just eat a little of everything.

spryng
07-03-2013, 11:20 AM
I think that is what I'll do too, I'll eat when I'm actually hungry and a few bites of everything she made special for me, but I'll stop when full. I want her to know how much I appreciate the work she went to but not at the expense of feeling crappy when I over eat :) gotta find that balance :)

spryng
07-04-2013, 12:38 PM
Happy 4th of July everyone! Hope you are all enjoying friends and family and some great food too :) I just finished prepping the shish kabobs (chicken and steak, tons of veggies) corn on the cob, and I made some delicious G-free pasta salad....I'm so ready to enjoy today :)

spryng
07-05-2013, 08:40 AM
Yesterday was great! I was so proud of myself for eating the IE way yesterday, it was nice to go to bed last night feeling light and not miserable :) Now this weekend will be my first real social challenge. I'm hoping I do just as well, just because everyone else might be pigging out does not mean I have to join them!

skelley331
07-06-2013, 08:20 PM
Well my weekend went all wrong, I overate but not to the point where I was miserable! Enjoyed 4 days with my daughter, son in law and three grandsons and of course my husband. Ate whatever I wanted but feel like I stopped when I was satisfied but I think I ate a lot even tho I wasn't miserable. But you know what I had a wonderful time. Tomorrow is a new day and I have no regrets! Hope everyone had a great holiday!

spryng
07-07-2013, 10:26 AM
Not being miserable is a success! I have a success to share as well, so yesterday I did fantastic eating the IE way, we all went for cold stone creamery icecream and I got the smallest bowl, I got half sea salt caramel and half banana icecream and began to eat...well the sea salt caramel was delicious, the banana was just ok, so I ended up eating only the sea salt caramel because that is what I was truly hungry for and threw the rest out. I'm definitely learning to honor my hunger and to not waste my meals on just "ok" stuff. I was so proud of myself because normally I'd eat it all because it was a tiny bowl and who cares right? Nah....I just wanted to savor my treat and only the part that was downright delicious :)
How is everyone this weekend? We are headed back home today and I have to say I have not over ate once this weekend...I feel light and energetic, love it :) now I'm ready to start my week :)

spryng
07-08-2013, 01:55 PM
well it's monday... back to the grind.. how did everyone survive the holiday weekend? I suprised myself over the weekend, I thought I'd be stressed out trying to eat IE with being at our friend's house and all her home cooking etc but it really wasn't.
My DH has been doing IE with me, he's lost about 3 lbs now. Well on our 4 hour drive home yesterday he had some reeses pieces and ate a few, then he said, do you have any m&m's in your purse, which I did (for emergencies lol) and I said yes but let me ask you, are you wanting them because you are hungry or because you are driving and bored and want something to munch on? he got really thoughtful and said, you know what? I don't want them, I'm not hungry lol I laughed and said, yeah those are habits we forget about, wanting to snack while on a long drive or eating while watching a movie or reading a book or surfing the net, just for something to do while doing the other activity.. but like him, you gotta take a sec, check your hunger and then decide do I want it because I need fuel or because it's just habit then go from there, I was so proud of him for turning them down :) Baby steps for us ALL :)

geoblewis
07-08-2013, 02:06 PM
My IE ambitions crumbled a bit over the last couple weeks with holiday travel and excessive heat. I lose all focus on my efforts when I'm miserable. But over the last couple days, I've refocused on what I want to achieve and I feel more on top of things today.

This morning I wasn't hungry as I left the house, so I did my Pilates workout in a fasted state. I'm feeling bendy and energized now! Still not hungry. My goal for today is to work up to a real state of hunger and enjoy my meal. I'm looking forward to a big salad with tuna and home-grown tomatoes in it. I am so happy for tomato season!

Yesterday I spent the day cleaning house and getting all the laundry done. When the clutter is gone and I'm on top of chores, life goes better for me, especially my mental/emotional state. Hope my sons don't dismantle everything by the time I get home, or there will be HE** to pay!

bookwoman
07-08-2013, 04:37 PM
Ah, back to the grind is right. I got myself too physically stressed this weekend and woke up with a pounding headache this morning due to muscle tension in my neck. Ugh. But it wasn't a food hangover, so that's a step in the right direction!

I've noticed something, that I am getting less and less tolerant of being too full. Or maybe it's that I'm getting more aware of my satisfaction level, and one bite beyond that is uncomfortable. I'm still eating a bite or two too much occasionally, but I think that in the past I would eat way beyond that point and not even notice! I'm being satisfied with smaller portions that I would have thought possible a month ago. :carrot:

AND, I have not weighed myself since the beginning of the month. That's a record for me too!:carrot::carrot:

carolr3639
07-08-2013, 07:29 PM
I have not weighed myself since the beginning of the month.Wonderful!

Andrea85
07-08-2013, 10:10 PM
I forgot how GOOD it feels to have a day like today!! I ate what I planned on eating (with snacks in mind in case I was extra hungry). I had a great breakfast, fulfilling lunch, planned snack, a second helping of dinner (salmon and veggies), and a delicious dessert of 1 peach mixed with cottage cheese. There is 1/2 a pint of chocolate ice cream in the freezer, which I told myself I could have if I craved it. No craving PLUS no eating just because it's there!

That plus the two workouts I got in today (one strength training/elliptical, the other the bootcamp class I teach), makes me feel fantastic! I'm a little hungry before bed, so I'll have a small bowl of cheerios with almond milk and a few blueberries. Eating before bed helps me sleep, and I don't feel guilty having it after a perfect day like today!

It just feels SO GOOD to have fueled my body seemingly perfectly. I didn't think about food a lot (a huge win for me), I was never extremely hungry, I recognized very slight hunger signals as just that (I used to feel like any hunger signal was a big red EAT NOW), I enjoyed everything I ate, and I don't feel deprived of anything. Plus I can feel that my body worked HARD today, and it did everything I asked of it! Major win

skelley331
07-09-2013, 09:55 AM
Does anyone experience a bloating feeling? I wake up in the mornings and i'm usually not hungry until around 8:30, I drink tons of water maybe that's why? I'm wanting so desparately to do the IE way of eating but can't figure out why I feel full all the time. Should I cut back on my water intake? Please help.

geoblewis
07-09-2013, 10:31 AM
Does anyone experience a bloating feeling? I wake up in the mornings and i'm usually not hungry until around 8:30, I drink tons of water maybe that's why? I'm wanting so desparately to do the IE way of eating but can't figure out why I feel full all the time. Should I cut back on my water intake? Please help.

How much water are you drinking? And if you're not hungry, then why eat?

bookwoman
07-09-2013, 11:03 AM
Does anyone experience a bloating feeling? I wake up in the mornings and i'm usually not hungry until around 8:30, I drink tons of water maybe that's why? I'm wanting so desparately to do the IE way of eating but can't figure out why I feel full all the time. Should I cut back on my water intake? Please help.


I've had a little trouble with this too. I used to drink water sporadically - not much one day and then a whole 24 oz bottle at once the next day. And I was using water and other liquids as a way to stave off hunger. Also, I found a few years ago that I have some motility issues, my stomach doesn't empty as quickly as it should (you'd think that would have kept me from overeating, but nooo :p)

Since I've been on IE I have been trying NOT to use water as a way to fill up. I'm also aware that sometimes what I think is hunger is actually thirst, so when I'm not sure I'll drink a couple mouthfuls and then wait ten minutes to see if the hunger feeling is still there. If it is, I eat something.

I also make sure to drink a little water with whatever snack or meal that I'm eating. I think that overall I might actually be getting more water than I was before, or at least I'm hydrating more consistently.

Hope that helps.:hug:

spryng
07-09-2013, 11:14 AM
My IE ambitions crumbled a bit over the last couple weeks with holiday travel and excessive heat. I lose all focus on my efforts when I'm miserable. But over the last couple days, I've refocused on what I want to achieve and I feel more on top of things today.

This morning I wasn't hungry as I left the house, so I did my Pilates workout in a fasted state. I'm feeling bendy and energized now! Still not hungry. My goal for today is to work up to a real state of hunger and enjoy my meal. I'm looking forward to a big salad with tuna and home-grown tomatoes in it. I am so happy for tomato season!

Yesterday I spent the day cleaning house and getting all the laundry done. When the clutter is gone and I'm on top of chores, life goes better for me, especially my mental/emotional state. Hope my sons don't dismantle everything by the time I get home, or there will be HE** to pay!
I know what you mean, stress is starting to get to me, have lots of crazy stuff going on in my personal life (parents divorcing after 32 years of marriage and making it as nasty as possible on each other.. sigh) gearing up for vacation in 9 days, work piling on extra crap.. last night all I wanted to do was eat to feel better for an hour or so, I didn't.. but I sure wanted to! its tough in those situations.. your salad for later today sounds perfect and delicious for summer! I LOVE fresh tomatoes :) Hang in there, we are here for ya :)

Ah, back to the grind is right. I got myself too physically stressed this weekend and woke up with a pounding headache this morning due to muscle tension in my neck. Ugh. But it wasn't a food hangover, so that's a step in the right direction!

I've noticed something, that I am getting less and less tolerant of being too full. Or maybe it's that I'm getting more aware of my satisfaction level, and one bite beyond that is uncomfortable. I'm still eating a bite or two too much occasionally, but I think that in the past I would eat way beyond that point and not even notice! I'm being satisfied with smaller portions that I would have thought possible a month ago. :carrot:

AND, I have not weighed myself since the beginning of the month. That's a record for me too!:carrot::carrot:
You are doing fantastic! I haven't been able to NOT weigh yet, I still weigh weekly and probably will until I hit my goal.. but I'm right there with you on being less tolerant on feeling so full. I can't stand even feeling a little over fed, just makes me feel so tired and bloated.

I forgot how GOOD it feels to have a day like today!! I ate what I planned on eating (with snacks in mind in case I was extra hungry). I had a great breakfast, fulfilling lunch, planned snack, a second helping of dinner (salmon and veggies), and a delicious dessert of 1 peach mixed with cottage cheese. There is 1/2 a pint of chocolate ice cream in the freezer, which I told myself I could have if I craved it. No craving PLUS no eating just because it's there!

That plus the two workouts I got in today (one strength training/elliptical, the other the bootcamp class I teach), makes me feel fantastic! I'm a little hungry before bed, so I'll have a small bowl of cheerios with almond milk and a few blueberries. Eating before bed helps me sleep, and I don't feel guilty having it after a perfect day like today!

It just feels SO GOOD to have fueled my body seemingly perfectly. I didn't think about food a lot (a huge win for me), I was never extremely hungry, I recognized very slight hunger signals as just that (I used to feel like any hunger signal was a big red EAT NOW), I enjoyed everything I ate, and I don't feel deprived of anything. Plus I can feel that my body worked HARD today, and it did everything I asked of it! Major win
You had an amazing day! I have gotten to where I enjoy the oncoming feeling of hunger now and know I can put it off for a little while, my body doesn't freak out and start that ravenous feeling anymore because it knows I WILL feed it but I like that empty feeling for a little while before I eat :) is it just me or does it make you feel thin lol I just love feeling thin and energetic and know when I eat I'll come away from the table still feeling thin and energetic instead of full, heavy and tired.

Does anyone experience a bloating feeling? I wake up in the mornings and i'm usually not hungry until around 8:30, I drink tons of water maybe that's why? I'm wanting so desparately to do the IE way of eating but can't figure out why I feel full all the time. Should I cut back on my water intake? Please help.

How much water are you drinking and maybe you need to let yourself get really hungry so you can feel it again, even drinking a ton of water your body will still let you know when there is true hunger or thirst so you should still feel hungry even drinking a ton of water so maybe continue to hydrate. Some people just eat a lot less in the summer because of the heat and water retention and drinking extra water so if you don't each much during the day don't feel like you need to "make up" for it by forcing a meal down when you aren't actually hungry, just skip it, your body will tell you when it needs real food for fuel :) but learning our body signals is tough sometimes :)

skelley331
07-09-2013, 02:02 PM
I know what you mean, stress is starting to get to me, have lots of crazy stuff going on in my personal life (parents divorcing after 32 years of marriage and making it as nasty as possible on each other.. sigh) gearing up for vacation in 9 days, work piling on extra crap.. last night all I wanted to do was eat to feel better for an hour or so, I didn't.. but I sure wanted to! its tough in those situations.. your salad for later today sounds perfect and delicious for summer! I LOVE fresh tomatoes :) Hang in there, we are here for ya :)


You are doing fantastic! I haven't been able to NOT weigh yet, I still weigh weekly and probably will until I hit my goal.. but I'm right there with you on being less tolerant on feeling so full. I can't stand even feeling a little over fed, just makes me feel so tired and bloated.


You had an amazing day! I have gotten to where I enjoy the oncoming feeling of hunger now and know I can put it off for a little while, my body doesn't freak out and start that ravenous feeling anymore because it knows I WILL feed it but I like that empty feeling for a little while before I eat :) is it just me or does it make you feel thin lol I just love feeling thin and energetic and know when I eat I'll come away from the table still feeling thin and energetic instead of full, heavy and tired.



How much water are you drinking and maybe you need to let yourself get really hungry so you can feel it again, even drinking a ton of water your body will still let you know when there is true hunger or thirst so you should still feel hungry even drinking a ton of water so maybe continue to hydrate. Some people just eat a lot less in the summer because of the heat and water retention and drinking extra water so if you don't each much during the day don't feel like you need to "make up" for it by forcing a meal down when you aren't actually hungry, just skip it, your body will tell you when it needs real food for fuel :) but learning our body signals is tough sometimes :)

spryng: Thanks for the feedback, my belly does start to growl so i'm hoping that's my body telling me i'm hungry. But I think I will continue to drink the water, I drink probably 100 oz a day!! Weekends not so much. Maybe cut back some on the water and see if it helps, the bloating around my mid section is what bothers me but I've lost 2.5 lbs this week since Saturday so i'm losing weight or maybe water LOL, i'm still trying to get with this program I know in the book it says sometimes it may take a little while. Thanks again. Love seeing your posts.

spryng
07-10-2013, 08:30 AM
Yep if your stomach is growling then its letting you know, I would continue to drink the water as well and the bloat should work itself off in time :)

So tomorrow my health coach will be calling me so it will be weigh in day and measurement day, we do this every two weeks and I'm always excited to see if I've lost anything. Our vacation is in 8 days, I was hoping to be 125 by then but I guess I'll just be darn close lol I'm really happy with my progress so far on IE, just feels so freeing :) My DH weighed this morning and he's down 9 lbs now, lucky men LOL he's been doing it about 3 weeks now so he's averaging 3 lbs a week lost, I'm so proud of him :)

skelley331
07-10-2013, 09:09 AM
Yep if your stomach is growling then its letting you know, I would continue to drink the water as well and the bloat should work itself off in time :)

So tomorrow my health coach will be calling me so it will be weigh in day and measurement day, we do this every two weeks and I'm always excited to see if I've lost anything. Our vacation is in 8 days, I was hoping to be 125 by then but I guess I'll just be darn close lol I'm really happy with my progress so far on IE, just feels so freeing :) My DH weighed this morning and he's down 9 lbs now, lucky men LOL he's been doing it about 3 weeks now so he's averaging 3 lbs a week lost, I'm so proud of him :)

spryng: That's awesome, who is your health coach? I go tomorrow to my weight center to weigh in. I'm having a hard time losing the 10lbs I gained, but i'm still in the learning curve of IE, last weekend I ate a lot but like I said I wasn't feeling stuffed. I'm just hoping I get this all figured out.

skelley331
07-10-2013, 09:20 AM
How long did it take to be able to get on track with IE? I feel so confused on how to get started. I'm still tracking calories, weighing everyday, still think about foods to eat????? Can someone give me some guidelines, I read the book so maybe I should go back and re-read it? :(

spryng
07-10-2013, 01:38 PM
Don't re-read the actual IE book, try How to have your cake and skinny jeans too, that one is much better written and the first thing you need to do is get out of the diet mentality! which means, no more tracking, counting etc Its time to start listening to your body, don't choose that snack because it's low in calories but because it's something you really want.. don't eat dinner because its "time" to have dinner, if you aren't hungry skip it and eat when you ARE hungry. things like that... is it scary? YEP! and it takes time for sure but the hardest thing to do is to throw out everything you know about fat/calories/carbs/ etc etc and just enjoy food again.. if that means you eat chocolate cake at every meal because that is what you are wanting then so be it! as long as you are only eating when you are truly hungry and stopping when satisfied you won't gain an ounce :) You have to embrace these changes though, you can't do IE AND a diet, doesn't work, will frustrate you and you will fail at both, so give up the diet and try to tune into your body, it WILL tell you what it wants and how much it wants, you just have to listen :) I'm here for ya!!

as far as my coach, I work for a large medical insurance company and they are doing a pilot right now with the bodymedia armbands (the one the biggest loser contestants use) to see if it will help us get more active etc, if its successful they will roll it out at a discount for all our employees so I got mine free by being part of the pilot (normally 150 bucks) and my coach calls me every two weeks to see how I'm doing, I have to give her my weight and waist measurements etc. She knows I'm doing IE and is estatic that its helping me lose weight and the armband is motivating me to workout more so I'm loving it :)

skelley331
07-10-2013, 10:22 PM
Spryng: I read Have your cake and skinny jeans too, it is better than IE, I appreciate your response back. Starting tomorrow, no more calorie counting, I'll weigh in tomorrow morning and then i'm not going to weigh until one week from tomorrow, I'm a daily weigher!!! I'm not going to eat tomorrow until my body tells me i'm hungry. thank you so much, i'm going to do this one day at a time! I'm ready!! :carrot:

spryng
07-11-2013, 07:48 AM
Keep us updated for sure! :) I still weigh once a week as well, I probably won't break that habit until maintenance. Today is actually my weigh in day, I lost .8 lbs this week and down another 1/2 inch in my waist! those inches off is what I love the most :) I read your waist should be half your height (or less) well I'm 5'4 so that is 64 inches so half of that is 32, well I started with mine at 35 1/2 while on IE and now I'm 33 1/2, that is good progress :)

skelley331
07-11-2013, 08:49 AM
Keep us updated for sure! :) I still weigh once a week as well, I probably won't break that habit until maintenance. Today is actually my weigh in day, I lost .8 lbs this week and down another 1/2 inch in my waist! those inches off is what I love the most :) I read your waist should be half your height (or less) well I'm 5'4 so that is 64 inches so half of that is 32, well I started with mine at 35 1/2 while on IE and now I'm 33 1/2, that is good progress :)

spryng:
Yes I will weigh once a week too, can't help that. I'm 5'7 so my wait should be 33 1/2, right now it's 32 1/2 so I guess that's good. I was down .4lbs this morning from yesterday!!! It's 9:47 am and my body still isn't hungry, no growling or signs I can see! I do drink a cup of decaf coffee every morning. Goodluck on your weigh in, let us know how it goes. :)

spryng
07-11-2013, 09:38 AM
32 1/2 is awesome! :) I definitely want to trim some more off my waist for sure, 32 is the starting point but I'm hoping to be at least 30 inches or less with continued exercise. And I already weighed in, I lost .8 lbs this week and another 1/2 inch off my waist :)
My body just now got hungry so I had a payday for breakfast lol it was delicious and filling :) I always have a crystal light energy when I get up each day, the rest of the day I drink water or green tea but I have to have my one glass of crystal light energy to start my day, some people need coffee, I need crystal light LOL

skelley331
07-11-2013, 07:55 PM
I was at 30" waist until I started gaining again. Well I did really good today I believe, I woke up and wasn't hungry, drank my hazelnut decaf coffee, went about my day running errands and got my lipo b12 injection which was a piece of cake, the nurse said some people have results of energy boosts within 24 hrs so we will see. I didn't get hungry until 2pm so I had a wendys' jr cheeseburger and kid fry(that's what sounded good and I was hungry) but guess what? I ate the cheeseburger but half way thru the fries I got satisfied and threw them away, that's the first time I've ever not finished French fries, it felt great! So I got home mowed the yard which took about 3 hrs, did the weed eating, filled up my bird feeders and around 6:30 I started getting hungry so I had a homemade taco salad! It's now 8pm and i'm satisfied and have no cravings YAHOOO!!! Oh I did weigh myself this morning and was down another 0.4 lbs so i'm heading in the right direction!!!

bookwoman
07-12-2013, 11:57 AM
I've been thinking about the weighing issue quite a bit. Since I've been trying IE I have been enjoying the peace of mind associated with NOT thinking about how much I weigh.

I remember very well all the thoughts and feelings that went with weighing - if I had lost weight then I was happy, I had been "good." Or if I had been thinking I hadn't been good (had eaten too much or not counted consistently) and still lost then I felt like I had gotten away with something, but that I'd better get back on track quickly before I got caught.

If I had gained weight, or even just maintained then I would start in with a lot of negative self-talk about how bad I was, how I had no self-control, no will power... And if I thought I had been sticking to my plan well, then obviously I just wasn't capable to doing it right. And the subsequent guilt and depression could last for days, and easily lead to overeating since I figured I was a lost cause anyway.

I'm VERY happy to not be dealing with all those ups and downs. So I decided not to weigh at all, at least for the time being.

However, in about a month I am scheduled to donate blood (which I do regularly) and I know that I'll be asked to enter height and weight before they do the hemoglobin test. I'm thinking that the donation period, which is about every 8 weeks) might be a reasonable interval to check my weight.

I'm curious about those of you who have been doing IE for a long time - how often do you weigh, if you weigh at all?

spryng
07-12-2013, 12:23 PM
Skelly that is awesome! Your day sounded fantastic! and you know why you threw those fries away? because not worrying or counting the calories allowed you to, if you were counting/tracking youd be like,well I have x amount of calories, these fit into that quota so I'm gonna just finish them off because I have the calories to do so...see? that doesn't help you listen to your body :) You did fantastic, I hope today is just as easy for ya :) I know for me it gets easier every single day :)

spryng
07-12-2013, 12:27 PM
Bookwoman,that is a good question..I know on page one there is a long post from a IE success story and she says to weigh regularly so you know where you are at, weigh or measure etc. I know for a lot of us we got in trouble by not weighing for long periods of time because that allowed us to "ignore" the problem and pretend we weren't gaining so I'd say if you don't wanna weigh on a scale because of the negative emotions/consequences of that then definitely use your clothes as a guide :) of course not stretchy pants lol but your skinny jeans or best fitting jeans, if they start to feel tight it might be time to re-evaluate your eating habits and hunger signals again :) That is what I plan to do when I hit my goal, just use my tape measure and jeans as my guide, until then though I will use the scale because for me it's motivating and doesn't create backlash, but again I haven't gained at all since starting this process, some weeks I maintain and some I lose but its all in the right direction:)

skelley331
07-12-2013, 01:13 PM
Good afternoon! At least it's afternoon here, I'm in Indiana!!! So today has been a good day, I got up, had my coffee and felt great! I brought a banana with me to work because I came in about an hour early to get a few things caught up. I didn't get hungry until around 9:00 am my belly was growling, what a great feeling to eat when you're hungry. The banana filled me up and I ate lunch around 1:00 because again my belly was growling, LOL!! This is terrific and yes today is a easier. I'll post again later tonight, we are going to our youngest grandsons all star double header baseball game. I'm taking a protein bar with me because i'm not sure when i'll be hungry!!! :carrot: I hope everyone has a great weekend, I know i'm planning on it.

I'm going to try and weigh once a week I think, just to keep on track until I reach my goal, I agree with spyrng.

spryng
07-12-2013, 01:48 PM
Skelley, sounds like another great day in the making for you! :) My day is going well too, I only ate half my tai peanut noodle dish for lunch because it was more than satisfying, I'll be able to have the rest for lunch tomorrow now :)

We are leaving for vacation in 6 days and I can honestly say this is the first time EVER I know I will not come back several lbs higher from eating like it's a free-for-all on vacation. In the past I'd diet like crazy before vacation so I can look my best then while ON vacation I ate like a pig and came back 8-10 lbs heavier in just two weeks and felt like crap.. not this time. I know this time I will come back the same weight or even lighter than when I left and I'll still enjoy all my favorite vacation foods and drinks and have a fantastic time. :) I'm so excited this year :)

skelley331
07-12-2013, 04:47 PM
Skelley, sounds like another great day in the making for you! :) My day is going well too, I only ate half my tai peanut noodle dish for lunch because it was more than satisfying, I'll be able to have the rest for lunch tomorrow now :)

We are leaving for vacation in 6 days and I can honestly say this is the first time EVER I know I will not come back several lbs higher from eating like it's a free-for-all on vacation. In the past I'd diet like crazy before vacation so I can look my best then while ON vacation I ate like a pig and came back 8-10 lbs heavier in just two weeks and felt like crap.. not this time. I know this time I will come back the same weight or even lighter than when I left and I'll still enjoy all my favorite vacation foods and drinks and have a fantastic time. :) I'm so excited this year :)

Thanks for the encouraging words and you'll do great on your vacation!

spryng
07-13-2013, 05:21 PM
How is everyone doing this weekend? Doing great here! Been so stressed out but not turning to food for comfort, this is a first :) 5 more days until we leave on vacation! I can't wait!

skelley331
07-13-2013, 08:19 PM
Having a great weekend!! I've lost 1.3lbs yahoo!! I'm following my body's hungry signals and its awesome !!

spryng
07-15-2013, 09:51 AM
Congrats on the 1.3 down! that is amazing! :) And it must feel so nice to finally be FREED from counting/tracking etc.. I know I'm loving it. :)

So I think we are about ready for vacation now, spent the weekend doing our last minute check list, oil change, bought one of those top of the car cargo carriers so we can put all our luggage up there to create more room in the car for us and 4 kids.. since we are driving 24 hours just to get there (12 hours at a time) the more room we have in the car the happier the kids will be lol Also upgraded our phones, I got the galaxy S4 and its gonna be amazing for taking pics on vacation, a 13 mp camera with some really cool modes, I can't wait to see what I can do with it, will save me from needing to take a seperate camera. I should be working this morning but I'm distracted with the new phone LOL but just 3 more days of work and packing then we are hitting the road for 18 days.. man I can't wait :)
I'm starting a 30 day squat challenge today as well, starts with 50 squats then by day 30 it will be 250.. I hope I have buns of steel by the end of this lol

bookwoman
07-15-2013, 10:18 AM
Back the the weighing topic - that's a very good point spryng. And over the weekend I realized that I have access to a regular check - I have a pair of heavy duty khakis that I wear whenever I go out to inspect my beehives. They're snug at the moment (though they've been much tighter in the past :o), and I put them on every one to two weeks, so that will be a good way to monitor. And noticing how tight (or hopefully loose!) those are doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same emotional charge that looking at a scale does. Why is that, I wonder?

skelley331
07-15-2013, 10:56 AM
Congrats on the 1.3 down! that is amazing! :) And it must feel so nice to finally be FREED from counting/tracking etc.. I know I'm loving it. :)

So I think we are about ready for vacation now, spent the weekend doing our last minute check list, oil change, bought one of those top of the car cargo carriers so we can put all our luggage up there to create more room in the car for us and 4 kids.. since we are driving 24 hours just to get there (12 hours at a time) the more room we have in the car the happier the kids will be lol Also upgraded our phones, I got the galaxy S4 and its gonna be amazing for taking pics on vacation, a 13 mp camera with some really cool modes, I can't wait to see what I can do with it, will save me from needing to take a seperate camera. I should be working this morning but I'm distracted with the new phone LOL but just 3 more days of work and packing then we are hitting the road for 18 days.. man I can't wait :)
I'm starting a 30 day squat challenge today as well, starts with 50 squats then by day 30 it will be 250.. I hope I have buns of steel by the end of this lol

How exciting to be going on vacation, you'll have a great time. I have the Iphone 4s and i'm thinking of switching to the galaxy S4 or the Droid DNA, both are pretty awesome i'm being told. I like my iphone but don't like being attached to the apple 100%. The 30 day squat wow, that's awesome i'm not sure my knees could take it. LOL but where did you find this challenge?

spryng
07-15-2013, 01:13 PM
I found it on facebook, its a group on there called 30 day challenge group, I think every 30 days we will do a different 30 day challenge, this is just the first one :)
My DH has the iphone, he just got the 5, he already had the 4 and loved it.. I have an ipad and I do like that its a more stable system but I love droid phones so I don't know if I'll ever switch to an iphone, so far this galaxy s4 is pretty darn cool :)

bookwoman, I think it's because we have been number driven for too long, for us its a fail/pass test that messes with our minds so if we can guage our progress via clothing or a measuring tape, takes that pressure off :)

iixi
07-15-2013, 07:34 PM
I want to do this. I've been trying to get a fit body and build muscle but I got a lot of lard on top of it.

I wonder if this will hurt my muscle gains... now that I think about it I don't get HUNGRY that often. I just get urges to eat or snack for no reason. I think this will be good for me and maybe the way to crack my unhealthy disordered thoughts towards food.

spryng
07-15-2013, 07:46 PM
Welcome iixi! And no your muscle gain should be fine :) have you read any of the books? The overfed head is free, or check out how to have your cake and skinny jeans too :)

skelley331
07-15-2013, 07:54 PM
I found it on facebook, its a group on there called 30 day challenge group, I think every 30 days we will do a different 30 day challenge, this is just the first one :)
My DH has the iphone, he just got the 5, he already had the 4 and loved it.. I have an ipad and I do like that its a more stable system but I love droid phones so I don't know if I'll ever switch to an iphone, so far this galaxy s4 is pretty darn cool :)

bookwoman, I think it's because we have been number driven for too long, for us its a fail/pass test that messes with our minds so if we can guage our progress via clothing or a measuring tape, takes that pressure off :)

spryng: Oh be careful of the iphone 5, did you hear about the airline stewardess in china that answered her iphone5 while on charge and she died from it. Just forwarning!!!

carolr3639
07-15-2013, 08:12 PM
Does anyone know where to get a book not a download of how to have your cake and skinny jeans too ? I don't have a kindle.

skelley331
07-15-2013, 09:45 PM
Does anyone know where to get a book not a download of how to have your cake and skinny jeans too ? I don't have a kindle.

I've have yet to find a hard book only the kindle.

iixi
07-15-2013, 10:06 PM
I'm reading overfed head right now! Its very good.

Do yall think that keeping a journal to record hunger and food intake would be counterproductive? On one hand its interesting to see when hunger pains start and what you gravitate towards but on the other would it feel too much like obsessing over what you eat?

fitmama84
07-16-2013, 07:37 AM
Thanks for this thread. This is pretty much what my husband and I are going to do...no plan, no strict rules, just trying to eat clean, healthy food, eating when hungry, and stopping when satisfied. And going to the gym.

fitmama84
07-16-2013, 07:38 AM
I'm reading overfed head right now! Its very good.

Do yall think that keeping a journal to record hunger and food intake would be counterproductive? On one hand its interesting to see when hunger pains start and what you gravitate towards but on the other would it feel too much like obsessing over what you eat?

For some people, this is a good plan, but I know myself and I know that if I do this, I start obsessing and all it does is make me feel hopeless. So if you think it would help, do it, but if you think you will obsess about it, don't. I hope I helped!

spryng
07-16-2013, 08:15 AM
spryng: Oh be careful of the iphone 5, did you hear about the airline stewardess in china that answered her iphone5 while on charge and she died from it. Just forwarning!!!
No I didn't hear that! wow, scary! I'll have to tell my husband about it since he's the one with the iphone 5.
Does anyone know where to get a book not a download of how to have your cake and skinny jeans too ? I don't have a kindle.
I can only find it for kindle or nook, not seeing a paperback or hardback version... hmmmmm..
I'm reading overfed head right now! Its very good.

Do yall think that keeping a journal to record hunger and food intake would be counterproductive? On one hand its interesting to see when hunger pains start and what you gravitate towards but on the other would it feel too much like obsessing over what you eat?
Yes I think it would be counterproductive like you said.. I know one of the biggest rules in the IE book is to stop all diet mentality, and if you are tracking etc that will still fall under that categorey. I think the best thing is just to listen to your body, you can definitely keep track of how you feel during the day if you like to do things like that, how after you ate it made you feel, did you feel satisfied? stuffed? still hungry? But for me I'm trying not to track, count etc. I still have a habit of picking something up and instantly turning the box/package over to see the calories in it.. it will cause me to place it back on the shelf if it's high and I need to just stop doing that. I have gotten better. but the other day I bought some gluten free chocolate chip cookies, I wanted one before dinner as I was starving and I saw they were 100 calories each! these were smallish cookies... I did not think 100 calories was worth it even if they were good so I put them back in the fridge... then I got to thinking about it, if I wouldn't have looked at the label I would be enjoying a cookie right now, guilt free.. I made myself get up and get one or I would have thought about it all night! I ate it, enjoyed it and it helped take the edge off my hunger for dinner then at dinner I was able to eat even less since I wasn't ravenous anymore. Its all baby steps for sure, little habits that are part of the diet mentality we just don't even think about, it's auto pilot for us, but we can break them eventually :)
Thanks for this thread. This is pretty much what my husband and I are going to do...no plan, no strict rules, just trying to eat clean, healthy food, eating when hungry, and stopping when satisfied. And going to the gym.
Fitmama84, definitely keep us update! My husband has joined me too, he's losing about 3 lbs a week just by listening to his body. Lucky men and their awesome metabolisms lol

iixi
07-16-2013, 08:30 AM
Also what do you do at work? Say you get hungry and want something specific that you didnt bring with you for lunch?

spryng
07-16-2013, 09:36 AM
I work at home so I don't have that issue but there are times I'm wanting something that is not here but I'm not leaving that day to grab anything so I just find a replacement to tie me over until I can get what I want. So maybe take a goody bag with you, take your lunch and a couple snacks, something sweet maybe, something salty/crunchy.. then when you are hungry for that snack you can think, is what I'm wanting a snicker bar? well I don't have one, is what I want really the snickers or just the sweetness of the chocolate or the crunch of the nuts? if its the crunch pull out what you brought that is crunchy, maybe a bag of chips, if it's sweet pull out the chocolate chip granola bar you brought (or maybe you did pack a snickers lol ) but sometimes we think we are craving something very specific, like a cold mocha frappe, but when you break it down and think, am I wanting that frappe or am I just needing something really cold with some caffeine, maybe a diet pepsi will work instead :) But take you a variety of things you enjoy with you to work, it's your emergency kit :) then when your hunger hits and you want something specific see if what is in your emergency kit has it or an alternative of it and remember, it's not always about getting what you want every time, there are times you have to have a plan B but know when you get off work you can have that other item, you may not get it "right now" but you can have it later so you don't go into "last supper" mode :)

iixi
07-16-2013, 10:03 AM
Makes sense! I work in a nursing home so theres always food running around. My downfall was binging on free cookies. When my ED was in full swing i felt like wrestling myself against the cookies! But now i just have 1 or 2 and be satisfied. I think of what happens if i neglect them until im hungry. I might not even want them for a while!

Now im wondering about fitness. You know the typical meal plans of oats, chicken breast, etc. i figured eating an hour or so before a work out is important but i can organize my sessions around my hunger. But one thing i wonder is after lifting i have a protein drink for my muscles. Now 99% of the time im not hungry right after lifting. But i know getting protein straight after is ideal. The drink itself is only 130-160 cal (depends on which i use or might be a lot more if i make a shake)

Its not going to be counterproductive is it?
I suppose its like how some people just gotta get up and have coffee, even if they arent hungry for one at that moment.

spryng
07-16-2013, 10:25 AM
You can do one of two things, you can get the protein in and as long as you aren't gaining or whatever then fine or you can continue to listen to your body, if you aren't hungry don't eat, if you feel hungry get that protein in. You will have to do what is right for YOUR body, I know the books will say to not eat after or before a workout unless you are actually hungry, I don't eat after I strength train but I'm a novice exerciser and just want to tone etc, not put on muscle etc really so I don't worry about all those rules, so you can try it both ways and see what works for ya :)

iixi
07-16-2013, 01:59 PM
My first intuitive meal. It was about 10:30. I was feeling hungry but not sure what I wanted. I suppose I wanted something with fruit but filling so I decided on oatmeal with a cut up banana.

I was wondering as I ate when enough is enough. I didn't feel satisfied. BUT all of a sudden I felt a kind of sensation in my belly. It wasn't being full. It was being... dare I say satisfied?

SO with 3/4 of the banana and half the oatmeal down I chucked the rest in the bin and that was that.

jazbcure
07-16-2013, 05:58 PM
Hi all,
I have been gone from this thread for awhile because I have decided that Intuitive Eating is just not working for me in this phase of my weight loss. While I have learned a lot about my hunger signals and have adopted a lot of good habits through my time with IE I am craving more structure.

When I first started an intuitive eating approach counting calories made me obsess and the feeling of restriction caused me to binge. Taking some time off from dieting to get more intune with my body has really been the catalyst for a lot of positive changes. I haven't binged in almost 2 years now and I am eating only when I am truly hungry. I credit intuitive eating with slowly losing 40 pounds. But lately I have just been getting increasingly frustrated with not being able to lose more. I have been thinking about it way to much, analyzing if I am hungry enough to eat or did I stop eating at the correct amount of fullness. I have decided to go back to good old calorie counting. For the first time ever I have been relaxed and not feeling deprived. I guess this is what I need right now. And I have finally broken my plateau :-)

So I wish you all continued success on your intuitive eating journeys, but I am going down a different path. Thank you for the responses to my previous posts.

spryng
07-17-2013, 07:29 AM
My first intuitive meal. It was about 10:30. I was feeling hungry but not sure what I wanted. I suppose I wanted something with fruit but filling so I decided on oatmeal with a cut up banana.

I was wondering as I ate when enough is enough. I didn't feel satisfied. BUT all of a sudden I felt a kind of sensation in my belly. It wasn't being full. It was being... dare I say satisfied?

SO with 3/4 of the banana and half the oatmeal down I chucked the rest in the bin and that was that.
That is awesome iixi!!! Its still hard for me sometimes to know when I'm satisfied as well, especially when it takes our bodies 20 min to register full when we are eating so I try to take a few bites less to see how everything feels when it hits bottom and if I'm still hungry I know I can have a snack etc later but that is still a learning process for me too :)
Hi all,
I have been gone from this thread for awhile because I have decided that Intuitive Eating is just not working for me in this phase of my weight loss. While I have learned a lot about my hunger signals and have adopted a lot of good habits through my time with IE I am craving more structure.

When I first started an intuitive eating approach counting calories made me obsess and the feeling of restriction caused me to binge. Taking some time off from dieting to get more intune with my body has really been the catalyst for a lot of positive changes. I haven't binged in almost 2 years now and I am eating only when I am truly hungry. I credit intuitive eating with slowly losing 40 pounds. But lately I have just been getting increasingly frustrated with not being able to lose more. I have been thinking about it way to much, analyzing if I am hungry enough to eat or did I stop eating at the correct amount of fullness. I have decided to go back to good old calorie counting. For the first time ever I have been relaxed and not feeling deprived. I guess this is what I need right now. And I have finally broken my plateau :-)

So I wish you all continued success on your intuitive eating journeys, but I am going down a different path. Thank you for the responses to my previous posts.
You definitely got to find the plan that works for you, I hope you have continued success with counting calories and the nice thing is once you hit goal you will know how to maintain with ease with the IE way of eating so you wont have to count calories for life :)

Well, we decided we are gonna head out of town and start our vacation tonight, around 3pm or so, we will have 3 days of LONG driving just to get to california but the kids love long road trips so they are all super excited :) I went ahead and weighed in a day early, I'm down .6 lbs this week, I'm thrilled with that. I'm a very slow loser on any plan, even low carb etc and I'm getting so close to goal that I lose even slower so if I maintain or lose just a few ounces each week, I'm just thrilled lol So I'm 127.4 now.. and just a little background on me. Right now I'm in new territory. When I got married I was 102 lbs then between the lifestyle change/birth control etc I shot up to 140 within 6 months! so I blew right past the 110's and 120's etc, then of course babies came and I just went up and up and up and have been battling my weight ever since. The lowest I ever got before was 135 as for some reason that was my set point for years, so getting under 135 was a huge success, well now being in the 120's is weird to me lol I'm in sizes I can't even remember ever wearing and I'm feeling better than ever but as I lose I just don't know what to expect with my bodies and the changes because I was never here long enough to remember this phase. So its all exciting and scary to me at the same time :)
I will be taking my ipad with me on vacation so I'll still be checking in daily, so don't think I'll be MIA :) I may not be on as much but I'll be on at least once a day.

bookwoman
07-17-2013, 08:48 AM
Does anyone know where to get a book not a download of how to have your cake and skinny jeans too ? I don't have a kindle.

I've been looking too, since I'd like to order a copy for my library (since library acquisitions falls under my jurisdiction here). I'm going to send a note to the author asking if she is planning to make any accommodations for library editions and the non-kindled.

Meanwhile, Amazon has a version of their Kindle app for desktop computers. It's called "Kindle for PC" (and I think there is also a MAC version). You just download the reader to your computer, then you can read Kindle books on screen. Not as convenient as a book you can hold in your hands, but better than nothing.

You can also check your local public library. A lot of libraries are lending ebooks now through free downloads using a service called Overdrive. You install the Overdrive reader on your computer and then you you can "check out" books to read electronically. If you want, tell me which library you use and I'll see what I can find out.

skelley331
07-17-2013, 09:03 AM
I had my lipo B12 injection yesterday and this is my second one, the energy level is amazing!! I dropped another 1/2 lb. Still eating the IE way and doing great I'm loving it!

carolr3639
07-17-2013, 05:31 PM
bookwoman, It worked!

skelley331
07-18-2013, 09:34 AM
That is awesome iixi!!! Its still hard for me sometimes to know when I'm satisfied as well, especially when it takes our bodies 20 min to register full when we are eating so I try to take a few bites less to see how everything feels when it hits bottom and if I'm still hungry I know I can have a snack etc later but that is still a learning process for me too :)

You definitely got to find the plan that works for you, I hope you have continued success with counting calories and the nice thing is once you hit goal you will know how to maintain with ease with the IE way of eating so you wont have to count calories for life :)

Well, we decided we are gonna head out of town and start our vacation tonight, around 3pm or so, we will have 3 days of LONG driving just to get to california but the kids love long road trips so they are all super excited :) I went ahead and weighed in a day early, I'm down .6 lbs this week, I'm thrilled with that. I'm a very slow loser on any plan, even low carb etc and I'm getting so close to goal that I lose even slower so if I maintain or lose just a few ounces each week, I'm just thrilled lol So I'm 127.4 now.. and just a little background on me. Right now I'm in new territory. When I got married I was 102 lbs then between the lifestyle change/birth control etc I shot up to 140 within 6 months! so I blew right past the 110's and 120's etc, then of course babies came and I just went up and up and up and have been battling my weight ever since. The lowest I ever got before was 135 as for some reason that was my set point for years, so getting under 135 was a huge success, well now being in the 120's is weird to me lol I'm in sizes I can't even remember ever wearing and I'm feeling better than ever but as I lose I just don't know what to expect with my bodies and the changes because I was never here long enough to remember this phase. So its all exciting and scary to me at the same time :)
I will be taking my ipad with me on vacation so I'll still be checking in daily, so don't think I'll be MIA :) I may not be on as much but I'll be on at least once a day.

spyrng: Oh wow California, that's awesome! Have a great time, and congrats on your .6lb loss, you are doing great!!!

skelley331
07-18-2013, 09:39 AM
Hello everyone, i'm just checking in to let you know that i'm doing great so far on the IE way. Listen to this, last night when I got hungry I asked myself what sounded good! It was pizza and breadsticks, i'm thinking wow I wouldn't have allowed this if I was dieting :(, so I fixed us pizza and breadsticks, normally I would eat two slices and eat two breadsticks :dizzy:BUT I only felt like eating one slice of pizza and one breadstick and after that I was satisfied WOW!:cheer3: Before I would never had stopped at one slice and one breadstick, this is amazing and I even indulged in a small bowl of ice cream with choc syrup (normally I would have a big bowl) but one scoop was enough!!! I'm so excited!!! And to top it off this morning my jeans felt a little loose so I peaked and I've dropped another 1/2" off my waist!! YAHOO!!!:carrot::carrot: Waist is now 32" last year it was 35:( I'm off work fri/Monday, we are going down to my sister big boat for the weekend!!! It's going to be a hot one so everyone stay cool!!

skelley331
07-18-2013, 09:44 AM
Hello everyone, i'm just checking in to let you know that i'm doing great so far on the IE way. Listen to this, last night when I got hungry I asked myself what sounded good! It was pizza and breadsticks, i'm thinking wow I wouldn't have allowed this if I was dieting :(, so I fixed us pizza and breadsticks, normally I would eat two slices and eat two breadsticks :dizzy:BUT I only felt like eating one slice of pizza and one breadstick and after that I was satisfied WOW!:cheer3: Before I would never had stopped at one slice and one breadstick, this is amazing and I even indulged in a small bowl of ice cream with choc syrup (normally I would have a big bowl) but one scoop was enough!!! I'm so excited!!! And to top it off this morning my jeans felt a little loose so I peaked and I've dropped another 1/2" off my waist!! YAHOO!!!:carrot::carrot: Waist is now 32" last year it was 35:( I'm off work fri/Monday, we are going down to my sister big boat for the weekend!!! It's going to be a hot one so everyone stay cool!!

FYI I've lost a total of 2.8lbs within the last 7 days!!

Livepeacefood
07-20-2013, 12:53 PM
Hi everyone,
I am brand new here and have been researching intuitive eating .
It brought me here and for the past weeks I have been reading all the past threads. I have struggled with my weight all my life I'm only 27. I have lost weight many times , even worked at a weight loss Center as a counsellor! I have put all my weight back on and am now at probably my heaviest. I've been avoiding the scale so I'm not sure.

For the past month I've stopped dieting. I for sure have gained weight. I'm trying to only eat when I'm hungry but find I'm not physically hungry very often! So I'm eating more for pleasure now. I really want to lose weight I'm uncomfortable , none of my clothes fit, but I'm not going back to dieting, although it's very tempting especially when I just saw a picture of myself . But today I'm going to honor my hunger and take this slow. Thanks for reading , looking forward to 'meeting' you all!

Janelle

carolr3639
07-20-2013, 12:54 PM
The book, How to have your cake and skinny jeans too ? is very interesting. I don't like how she talks about a 2nd book. After reading a lot of IE books, I think most people just figure out what works for them.

Livepeacefood
07-20-2013, 12:59 PM
Also , this morning I waited until I was hungry and had a cinnamon bun. I was still hungry half hour later and had meatballs that were greasy , but I was craving them. I feel good now and not full , just satisfied . But the guilt feelings are so strong. I know I'm still in the experimenting stage , testing myself to see if I am truly free of the diet mentality and if i will really allow myself to legalize all foods . This is going to be a long journey .

spryng
07-21-2013, 01:24 PM
Hello everyone, i'm just checking in to let you know that i'm doing great so far on the IE way. Listen to this, last night when I got hungry I asked myself what sounded good! It was pizza and breadsticks, i'm thinking wow I wouldn't have allowed this if I was dieting :(, so I fixed us pizza and breadsticks, normally I would eat two slices and eat two breadsticks :dizzy:BUT I only felt like eating one slice of pizza and one breadstick and after that I was satisfied WOW!:cheer3: Before I would never had stopped at one slice and one breadstick, this is amazing and I even indulged in a small bowl of ice cream with choc syrup (normally I would have a big bowl) but one scoop was enough!!! I'm so excited!!! And to top it off this morning my jeans felt a little loose so I peaked and I've dropped another 1/2" off my waist!! YAHOO!!!:carrot::carrot: Waist is now 32" last year it was 35:( I'm off work fri/Monday, we are going down to my sister big boat for the weekend!!! It's going to be a hot one so everyone stay cool!!
You are doing amazing! Keep up the great work!
Hi everyone,
I am brand new here and have been researching intuitive eating .
It brought me here and for the past weeks I have been reading all the past threads. I have struggled with my weight all my life I'm only 27. I have lost weight many times , even worked at a weight loss Center as a counsellor! I have put all my weight back on and am now at probably my heaviest. I've been avoiding the scale so I'm not sure.

For the past month I've stopped dieting. I for sure have gained weight. I'm trying to only eat when I'm hungry but find I'm not physically hungry very often! So I'm eating more for pleasure now. I really want to lose weight I'm uncomfortable , none of my clothes fit, but I'm not going back to dieting, although it's very tempting especially when I just saw a picture of myself . But today I'm going to honor my hunger and take this slow. Thanks for reading , looking forward to 'meeting' you all!

Janelle

Welcome Janelle! Just remember in the beginning of IE it's a learning process for sure, just keep at it and it will work!

So I'm on vacation right now and I know I've lost weight, the heat is suppressing my appetite for sure and then when I'm with family there isn't much gluten free options for me so I haven't been eating much, no complaints here ;) so yesterday was the family reunion which was fun and today we are taking the kids to a huge water park, should be fun too :) we will just pack some lunch. Hope to be back on soon!

pattygirl63
07-21-2013, 03:43 PM
Just a quick check in to say I'm still here. In fact, I hope to be here more often as our really busy summer is slowly settling down and should get settled back down to normal in a few weeks when DGS moves back to the college dorm. Then maybe things will be back to normal. Experiencing simi-normal right now while he is in FL visiting his parents, siblings and family there. Although I miss him, I am thankful for the break and the time to get my eating under control again.

Eating has been crazy and I've gained some, but getting back to IE principles will help bring things back down. I just wrote on the Simple Diet thread that I tried (fell back in diet thinking mode) eating the Dr. Anderson's Simple Diet plan yesterday. It was just way to much stuff for me to eat with food and shakes. I was miserable last night. I just can't "follow" a diet plan any more. Just not use to eating and drinking on a schedule.

I did like the idea of keeping it simple though and I will implement that idea into my IE. The idea of eating healthy tv dinners appeals to me because I only have to cook one meal each day for DH and me which is our main meal around 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I like to eat only fruit and a cup or two of coffee in the mornings because I don't usually want breakfast. However, I do like something in the evening but don't want to cook for me since DH grazes. I have some favorite meals that the frozen tv dinners by Weight Watchers, Lean Cuisine and Michelina make that DH would never eat even if I did make them homemade. I can make one of those and add some veggies and it makes a wonderful evening meal for me in just minutes. However, with IE, if I do want to take time to make something else which I do once in a while then I'm free to do that as well. I think it is all about doing IE the way it works for me. After all, we are individuals with individual preferences.

I see a lot of Newbies since I was here last. I look forward to reading to catch up and get to know y'all.

spryng
07-23-2013, 09:32 PM
Why is it you are more exhausted on vacation than home? Lol we've been running non stop but today we finally got a WHOLE day at the cottage, so I was able to just relax finally. Still reading How to have your cake and skinny jeans too, swam a couple times already, napped ( oh the nap was heaven! ) and eating has been great. All my family was gorging themselves at the reunion, then the next day all I heard about was how terrible they felt, how they are now gonna do this diet or that plan....it was sooooo nice for once to not worry about feeling guilty after a special occasion where we'd normally gorge and gain just because it was a special occasion and all that food was there and everyone else was doing it too. I have no scale here but from how my clothes are fitting I think I've definitely lost a few lbs, can't wait to find out in about 11 more days or so.
Well I better get back to relaxing, I'll check in soon!

skelley331
07-24-2013, 12:38 PM
LOL, everytime we come home from vacation i'm exhausted! But its nice to get away! Glad to hear you are having a great time and doing so well. I'm still doing great, eating the IE way!!! Slowly losing lbs but i'm glad it's slow because it's easier to keep off. :carrot:

Liliann
07-25-2013, 06:13 PM
Hello fellow IE ers!

I used to post on this thread on and off and as of today, am saying farewell on dieting world...even the scale as well...and focus more on IE and a better lifestyle change for me.

I hope on chiming on here and hopefully become a good cheer pal on here .I read most of the posts and decided to make a small bio on me and getting to know everyone here.

I want to focus on this so much...and want to learn and loose inches than Lbs..which I need to talk about my medical doctor about this and not weighing in at all when I visit her for check ups. Her weight loss advice to me always is diet pills and surgery, and always refusing her ideas. I know I can do this on my own without dieting per say, which dieting makes me confused and so overwhelming on plans..I just had enough!!

IE method is a natural way on life on managing food choices. Today my food choices was not healthy, but will still pratice on this. I am not perfect..and knowing eating when truly hungry..

Keep the IE going foks...will do my best on checking in here daily and often. I am home all day and offer moral support on this method.

Have a good one..

skelley331
07-25-2013, 08:21 PM
Welcome Liliann, I'm new to the IE way of eating also and it has taken me about a month or little longer to finally grasp the IE way. I read the Intuitive Eating book but what really help me understand this way of eating was the book Have Your Cake and skinny Jeans too, it's amazing and really explains it better. keep coming back as we are here for support. The key is listening to your body, eat when it's hungry for fuel and stop when you are satisfied and not miserable. It's amazing how well it works and how at peace with yourself and food you become. :carrot::carrot:

Liliann
07-25-2013, 09:12 PM
Kelly...Thanks for the welcome! Bravo on your 28 Lbs loss!! YOU are doing great...Good work!!

I had read Overcoming Overeating and its similar to this method. I had lost the book, and also had the original IE book, but do know the concept. I had 2 past dieticatians on working this method and finally listen to my tummy and not the clock to tell me to eat.

Friday will be better..Each day is a new beginning.

iixi
07-26-2013, 09:40 AM
So I went back into my calorie counting.... only for a few days to curb the binge eating (which is working so far I feel a lot less bloated) I got the 3rd edition of intuitive eating in the mail yesterday and I'm excited on reading it. I have some questions for you gals...

Snacking: what good is snacking in IE? Say you have been really wanting a bar of chocolate, but thats not a food is it? So you can't technically have it as a meal or you won't be satisfied. You want to snack on it, but that goes against feeding yourself when hungry... so what place do snack foods have in IE?

Portions: I find that while one boiled egg will keep the hunger pains away for a couple hours, it's not particularly satisfying. Or a palm sized chicken breast for dinner with a side of broccoli. What WOULD be satisfying is two chicken breasts with broccoli and corn... but the portions are big.

I struggle with the fine line of full and satisfied. I find if I'm satisfied I'm less likely to snack or want more for hours after but It's like I;'m not satisfied eating baby portions.

I've told myself that when my Bf comes home from out of state on the weekends I'll drop my calories and try IE (since he makes such fat yummy steaks and things I can't possibly count) and I'm a little nervous. I ust don't want to binge again. Last night I did well and then had fistfulls of krave chocolate cereal (I wasnt hungry but damn I wanted some chocolate)

Liliann
07-26-2013, 09:55 AM
Xi....Hello...Good luck with your efforts..

Hello all,....:)

I had a good sleep and did not have breakfast yet, drinking iced coffee while taking my vitamins and morning meds. My tummy feels satisfied and not hungry yet. I did my morning food shopping as well.

Have a great day all...((((((((((((((Hugs)))))))

nelie
07-26-2013, 10:24 AM
So I'm stopping by for some advice but I'll give some background first. I finished reading "Health at Every Size" a few weeks ago and I feel that is the book that was missing in my life. The fact that naturally people will be various sizes from super skinny to a bit plump makes sense. At my smallest adult size, I was wearing a size 12/14 and I wasn't happy with my body because my weight still said I was obese. I think if I had chilled out and not stressed, I'd still be that size rather than trying everything under the sun to restrict myself with that restriction backfiring.

Fast forward a few years and I've been struggling, a lot with food and exercise. The idea of exercising for health makes sense to me. The idea of eating for health makes sense to me. If I happen to eat a cookie or ice cream because it is what I craved, so be it but I'm eating tons of vegetables, moderate amount of fruit, whole grains, legumes, oils and such. So since I finished reading the book, I've been exercising every day without a struggle. I strapped on a pedometer and for the past week or so, I've set a goal and I'm meeting that goal every day. I'm also cooking more and eating better than I have in a long time. I'm not worried about calories, not even worried about weight loss or gain. I know I've lost weight because my clothes already fit looser and I did slip on the scale because I wanted to see that I met a milestone which I did (a weight I haven't seen for 6 months or so).

Anyway, here is my dilemma. I follow my body signals to eat and listen to my body on what I want to eat. I eat until satisfied, sometimes even leaving the plate with a little left on it but only after I evaluate if I am done. I generally eat dinner sometime between 6pm and 8pm, sometimes 8:30. I go to bed around 11pm, not hungry in the least. Nearly every night I wake up at 3am/4am absolutely starving. I've never been a nighttime eater and I'm not about to start. Has anyone had this happen to them? Has anything you've read covered this?

The only thing I can think of is that I am somehow not eating enough during the day but I feel satisfied. I usually try my best to go to sleep, then evaluate in the morning between 6am to 8am. On the days I wake up starving, I do generally eat breakfast a little earlier as I find I'm still hungry when I wake up. I'd prefer not to wake up in the middle of the night starving though so any advice is appreciated.

Liliann
07-26-2013, 12:39 PM
Nelie...Don't have the answer about the night times eating, maybe someone else has a better ..Just wanted to say Bravo on your clothes being loosen, that is a true indicator! Nothing like clothing size drop being a success. Keep up the wonderful work! :)

carolr3639
07-26-2013, 05:21 PM
I go to bed around 11pm, not hungry in the least. Nearly every night I wake up at 3am/4am absolutely starving. I've never been a nighttime eater and I'm not about to start. Has anyone had this happen to them? Has anything you've read covered this?I've had this and don't know why. Lately, it hasn't been happening.

Liliann
07-27-2013, 06:57 AM
Hello all... Happy weekend!

Yesterday I did good on eating when am truly hungry. I had packed all my dieting stuff in a box and now its in a storage. I need to learn on not fall back into the dieting land mindset. Also, ditching the scale, even when I see my medical doctor. I will explain my new lifestyle change plan on eating when am hungry.

I recall from reading Geena Roth books in the past is to give up the scale..the scale is part of the dieting efforts and my clothes will be my guide on shrinking a size in later time.

My 3 x pants is loosen on my waist. My goal is to get down to 1 x...Long term goal size Medium.

Have a great weekend all...:)

geoblewis
07-27-2013, 12:59 PM
I have been struggling with IE. I can wait until I'm hungry before I eat on the front end of the day, but once I start eating, I can't seem to find satiety. It's a real struggle!

But this last week I found the Shangri-La Diet and using that seems to help me with the appetite issues that I've struggled with for so long. And because my appetite seems to have eased up (rather surprisingly quickly!), I don't seem so caught up with weighing myself or fussing so much over calories. I still track the calories, mostly because I don't trust myself yet, but I am not obsessed with them. I know it's only been a few days, but I'm seeing a difference in how I deal with appetite.

carolr3639
07-27-2013, 01:50 PM
but once I start eating, I can't seem to find satiety. It's a real struggle!I'm like that, too.

bookwoman
07-31-2013, 01:20 PM
Back in town. I've been traveling for the past 10 days and didn't realize I would have such limited online access.

I did pretty well with food on my trip, though I did learn that when I'm sleep deprived I can't focus on hunger and satiety signals. I figured that out after the fact when I was going over why and when I did overeat, and it was always when I was really tired, or when my sleep patterns had been disrupted. Good to know for the future.

It's good to be back, and I see there are a couple new people on the thread, Welcome!

skelley331
07-31-2013, 09:34 PM
Back in town. I've been traveling for the past 10 days and didn't realize I would have such limited online access.

I did pretty well with food on my trip, though I did learn that when I'm sleep deprived I can't focus on hunger and satiety signals. I figured that out after the fact when I was going over why and when I did overeat, and it was always when I was really tired, or when my sleep patterns had been disrupted. Good to know for the future.

It's good to be back, and I see there are a couple new people on the thread, Welcome!

Bookwoman: Glad to hear you figured out why you were over eating. I do so good thru the day waiting until im hungry but find it hard at dinner time when everyone else is eating and i'm not really hungry yet. This i'm trying to come to terms on.

bookwoman
08-01-2013, 11:46 AM
Bookwoman: Glad to hear you figured out why you were over eating. I do so good thru the day waiting until im hungry but find it hard at dinner time when everyone else is eating and i'm not really hungry yet. This i'm trying to come to terms on.

That's one of my hardest times too: dinners, receptions, parties, etc. where there are lots of people and lots of food. Just have to keep working on my awareness.

pattygirl63
08-01-2013, 12:59 PM
Haven't been here in a while. Just had a difficult time getting it together again. I've really struggled to get back to where I was when IE was working for me before. However, I just spent the morning listening to a Dr. Michael Lara's Intermittent Fasting 101 on Youtube and writing down what he said. I've always leaned toward Intuitive Eating and as I have shared here before... when I was growing up, I only ate when I was hungry which worked out to be NO breakfast and usually 1 or 2 meals a day depending on my hunger. Due to dieting all these years I have had a difficult time getting IE to work for me again because I have not been able to recognize the difference in real hunger and craving signals. After really listening to Dr. Lara again, I realized that Intermittent Fasting (IF) will help me to learn to recognize those differences again. I believe this means for that IF is going to become a real asset to helping me do IE so I can get back to eating "my normal" way of eating again. IF seems to say that it isn't so much about what we eat as it is when we eat. Sounded a lot like IE to me.

I'll come back later to read and catch up with everyone. I think I see some newbies since I was here last. I look forward to getting to know y'all and to also be back with old friends here.

skelley331
08-01-2013, 01:33 PM
pattygirl: Welcome back, and yes i'm a newbie and i'm having problems getting to the IE way myself and letting go of the dieting mentality! I feel weird not eating three meals a day with a snack in between as I've always done during my dieting days. I never was hungry in the mornings but was always told if you don't eat breakfast your body goes into starvation mode! So i'm really trying. :)

iixi
08-01-2013, 11:08 PM
Alright guys...I left the proana community, x-ed contact with triggering girls I met on there and deleted my calorie counter app. I've also hidden my scale.

Today I was really tuned in with my body and snacked less. I had a pre-work out cookie (:P) and then after about 12 minutes of yoga (I'm a wuss) I found hunger beginning. So I just had a boiled egg and coffee. I should have had more because 3 hours later I was so hungry that I couldn't even focus. So I went to olive garden and tried one of their diet dishes (Yeah I know but breadsticks AND I had a dessert ;) and I felt satisfied. I never experienced pure satisfaction for a long time. Usually I'm thinking about my next meal but I was so content.

A few hours later I snacked on 2 el fudge cookies and at night some watermelon. Thats it. I could have done without the cookies and watermelon but it's ok.


I have a question about drinks. In my diet world you DO NOT drink your calories unless it's a protein shake. So I miss my whole milk, hot cocoa, creamy coffees, juice, etc. How do I get over the guilt of drinking a glass of caloric beverage?

i find at night I tend to binge on things looking to satisfy my sweet tooth. Before my ED and diets I'd just have a glass or two of juice and be done. I miss it, but I can't help but think "Oh god..I just drank like 100-200 calories" x_x diet police..

spryng
08-04-2013, 11:43 AM
Just got home from vacation so I plan on going back and catching up on everyone's posts. Usually on vacation it's a free for all when it comes to food but not this year. I was active daily, really tried to eat only when hungry but I did gain...I think like 1.6 lbs...so not too bad but it still kinda bummed me out. On previous vacations I would gain 10-15 lbs so when I think of that 1.6 sounds great but still I was secretly hoping I'd lose a lb or two while gone. Oh well, it's over now so on and forward.

spryng
08-04-2013, 11:44 AM
Ok so I gained 1.4 lol I just saw my ticker which is 127.4 and I'm 128.8 this morning...I'm gonna update it to be accurate.

skelley331
08-04-2013, 02:04 PM
Just got home from vacation so I plan on going back and catching up on everyone's posts. Usually on vacation it's a free for all when it comes to food but not this year. I was active daily, really tried to eat only when hungry but I did gain...I think like 1.6 lbs...so not too bad but it still kinda bummed me out. On previous vacations I would gain 10-15 lbs so when I think of that 1.6 sounds great but still I was secretly hoping I'd lose a lb or two while gone. Oh well, it's over now so on and forward.

Welcome back, glad you had a great time! We missed ya here! congrats on the small gain but you'll have that off in no time. Hey I've been reading about the IF (Intermittent Fasting) seems really close to IE way, it's pretty interesting that's for sure. I've been hanging in there still haven't mastered the IE way either, seems great thru the week but weekends get crazy but i'm not giving up!!!

pattygirl63
08-04-2013, 06:52 PM
Spryng - I wouldn't worry about 1.4 lbs. My doc says he doesn't worry about even a 1 or 2 lb gain because he says maybe you didn't go pee or something that morning. I agree with skelley, it will be gone in a day or two. It sounds more like water weight that really isn't weigh gain. You obviously did a great job while on vacation not to have gained your usual. I :cp: applaud you for a great accomplishment.

skelley331 I answered you on IF, but forgot to remind you that my key goal for using IF is to empower me so I can learn how to make IE my way of life. I have a problem knowing or recognizing the difference in hunger and just wanting the "taste" of something. I hope that IF will help me to learn the difference so I will be able to learn to eat only when hungry and also help me to live without a "diet mentality" of rules so that IE becomes the "norm" it was for me as a child and teenager.

skelley331
08-04-2013, 09:36 PM
pattygirl63 yes i'm in the same mentality as you, I was having trouble figuring out when I was hungry so i'm doing the IF for a short period to help me get to the IE way of eating. Thank you for your input.

spryng
08-05-2013, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome back ladies! :) I'm gonna have to check out that IF, never heard of it but I'm with you two, it's so hard to figure out true hunger vs psuedo hunger... I determine hunger when my stomach growls as true hunger but I have noticed that I'm just fine then I'll SMELL something yummy and instant stomach growling and I know that is not true hunger as true hunger is suppose to come on gradually getting stronger until the stomach starts to growl so if it goes from feeling fine to instant growling that is psuedo hunger but still.. annoying to distinguish because I want to eat when my stomach growls! lol and you are right about my gain, I was already .8 lbs lighter this morning so it had to be some sort of water retention which made me feel better lol I knew I didn't over eat once while on vacation and several days I put in 2+ hours of walking (the beach, the redwoods, the vegas strip lol) so I was just bummed I gained while really trying to do the IE way, I thought I'd come back lighter, not heavier lol

spryng
08-05-2013, 01:34 PM
wanted to share a pic from my vacation, this was on top of Moro Rock in the sequoiah nat'l forrest in CA, we were in the clouds lol but this does show my most current weight as well.. I never take pics so its hard to find a complete body one.

skelley331
08-05-2013, 02:16 PM
spryng: You look great! I went camping over the weekend just for three days, our youngest grandson was playing baseball in the all stars tournament and I gained 3.5lbs WOW! But i'm okay, not beating myself up, had a great time, didn't eat a lot of junk food, just overate! I started the IF today so I got my 16hrs of fasting in and i'm doing the 8 hour from noon to 8 pm, you only have to do it 2-3 times a week but i'm going to do it mon-fri and see how it goes. I really want to tune into my body signals so I need to see when i'm truly hungry.

spryng
08-05-2013, 03:04 PM
I had to google IF because I wasn't sure what it was lol so there are 3 versions, the 16/8, 19/5 and one more right? so it starts when you sleep then you don't touch food for 16 hours then you are allowed to eat for the next 8 hours but you are only eating when you are hungry? that sounds good! do you get hungry before the 16 hours is up? I didn't get hungry until 11 am this morning so that would be 11 hours for me since I went to bed at midnight...

pattygirl63
08-05-2013, 06:22 PM
spyrng I have gotten hungry before my 16 hr fast is over, but very rarely. I think this is because when I ate as a child and teen and other times in my life when I successfully got weight down this way (didn't have IF title back then), that was the way I ate. It was "normal" for me. When I did IE naturally, there were times that I had to make myself eat because I just didn't get hungry. How I long to be that way again. Hopefully, IF will help me to get there.

Today was a different eating time for me although I stayed within my 8 hrs. DH and I had fasting blood work done this morning. DH was hungry so we went to eat at Hardee's. Disappointed in the food but was satisfied. Came home and later DH wanted to eat again at our regular time so we ate again. I decided to go ahead and eat around 5:30 to make an 8 hr eating window today because I don't want to get the munches later tonight and have to fight it.

I did do my 3 mile/30 min stationary recumbent bike ride and the resistance exercises today. So basically I am off to a good start. I also did lots of laundry in the mix as well. So I'm very satisfied with my first week of getting this all going in a routine. Tomorrow, I want to go back to my old way of doing IF/IE that I was doing 3 months ago of 19/5 ratio. I had forgotten that one until Spryng mentioned it. I did great on that one and my fasting blood sugar was doing good too. I stopped it when my doc didn't want me to do it that way, but I'm going to go back to it.

Oh, I'm down 1 lb this week.

skelley331
08-05-2013, 09:13 PM
I started today with the 16/8 IF and it went really great! Actually started my first meal at 12:30 and ended my last meal at 7:30 it ended up being a 7 hr window so my fasting will be for 17hrs instead of 16. Tomorrow morning I will do my 8 min walking after I get up and have my coffee. I do decaf w/stevia so it's only 2 calories. I'm wondering if I should go back to reg coffee and not decaf, they say the caffeine increases your metabolism does anyone know if this is true?

carolr3639
08-06-2013, 01:44 PM
Whan I started fasting about 30yr. ago my weight problem escalated. Just my 2 cents.

skelley331
08-06-2013, 03:58 PM
Good morning!
My first day of IF went really great, made it thru the 16/8 plan
Today is my second day and I noticed this time that around 9:00 am my belly started rumbling really loud LOL, not sure if it's hunger or fake. So I started drinking more water and it has stopped. I did drop 2.2 lbs from yesterday so that's a big plus. My eating window starts at 12:00 -12:30 same as I did yesterday so I will post later how things are going. Yahoo!!

carolr3639: I'm not planning on doing the IF way for a long period, just until I can make sure what my body is signaling to be as far as real hunger verses fake. I will only fast mon-thurs and then fri-sun do my regular eating and counting calories.

Beeb
08-06-2013, 08:41 PM
I have found that eating restrictions of any kind derails me in my intuitive eating. I have a problem knowing my hunger signals and waiting to eat in a "window" only makes it harder to figure out. :dizzy:

I had eaten intuitively all my life until about 8 years ago and am now getting back to my "old" habits of only eating when I am truly hungry and only what I want, stopping when I'm just full. It's hard to remember the signals but time will take care of that, and the "learned" diet behavioral way of thinking will be replaced with the natural intuitive thinking I had for over 47 years. :)

skelley331
08-06-2013, 08:45 PM
Beeb: so how do you know when you're hungry? I was doing the IE way for about two weeks but couldn't figure out when to eat :?: Is it when your stomach growls?

Beeb
08-06-2013, 08:58 PM
Beeb: so how do you know when you're hungry? I was doing the IE way for about two weeks but couldn't figure out when to eat :?: Is it when your stomach growls?

Right now it's a "learn as I go" type of thing because I have literally forgotten what "hunger" is from being on diet after diet and being "told" when, what and how to eat.

Today I just ate when I my stomach felt "light" and it felt like it needed food. I also really thought about what I wanted and ate at the table with no distractions. I have eaten little things about every 2 to 2 1/2 hours and will continue this way until I can figure out my hunger signals. I know back in the day I would get that "light in the stomach" feeling and that is when I would eat, and I remember that "I'm full" thinking but can not remember the signal or feelings for this and HERE lies my biggest challenge. After counting calories, restricting foods or eating IF for all these years my hunger signals are totally "out of sink" and my head tells me what to do!

I'm a work in progress but I'm determined to go back to eating the way I did for some many, many years. Back to a time when food for just for fuel, I savored every bite and ate just what I want, when I wanted and NEVER overate! I can do this again!! :carrot:

pattygirl63
08-06-2013, 11:55 PM
This morning when I was half asleep and half awake, weird I know, I was thinking about how I ate as a teenager. I ate lunch whenever lunch time came around at school which was either around 1 or 2 o'clock depending when assigned for the grade I was in. Then Mama usually had supper ready when Daddy got home from work around 5 so we ate around 5:30 or 6. When Daddy was gone at night Mama made fudge. Strange thing is I didn't always eat the fudge with her and my sisters because I didn't want it. When the family ate ice cream or whatever when Daddy was home, I didn't always eat it. If I wasn't hungry, you couldn't make me eat if I didn't want to eat. Back then I could cook a whole meal and never take a bite or it. I just wasn't hungry. That is what I would love to be able to do again.

According to what I read today on the IF thread, I'm not actually following IF because I drink coffee with half and half. However that doesn't bother me since I'm not trying to follow any rules of any kind. When I have to start following a strict rule then it is becoming a diet and I'm defeating my purpose. My coffee gives me the energy I need and I don't get hungry all morning. If and when I do get hungry, I eat. The purpose for me is to learn when I am really hungry so I don't eat when I'm not. Goal is to eat intuitively. I've lived long enough eating on some diets time table etc and I have no intention of eating when or what someone else says I have to. The only reason I eat IF is that is the way I eat "normally", but intuitively. So I guess I'm using the idea of IF modified not really doing IF. I hope I will never fall back into the "diet routine again". When I can eat intuitively again like I did when I was young, growing up, I believe everything will take care of itself. It always did in the past and I expect it to again. I have to work on the good/bad food thoughts now since I still have a tendency to feel like there are certain foods that are bad for me to eat. I'm sure that comes from all those diets that had "forbidden" foods. I find I am constantly reminding myself that it isn't what I eat that is bad for me, it is how much I eat of it that is the problem. Just learn portion control.

spryng
08-07-2013, 10:30 AM
I started today with the 16/8 IF and it went really great! Actually started my first meal at 12:30 and ended my last meal at 7:30 it ended up being a 7 hr window so my fasting will be for 17hrs instead of 16. Tomorrow morning I will do my 8 min walking after I get up and have my coffee. I do decaf w/stevia so it's only 2 calories. I'm wondering if I should go back to reg coffee and not decaf, they say the caffeine increases your metabolism does anyone know if this is true?
I have heard that as well about caffeine and per the research I've read it does increase the metabolism but it's by such a small amount that it doesn't really matter so if you enjoy that caffeine boost then drink it :)
Good morning!
My first day of IF went really great, made it thru the 16/8 plan
Today is my second day and I noticed this time that around 9:00 am my belly started rumbling really loud LOL, not sure if it's hunger or fake. So I started drinking more water and it has stopped. I did drop 2.2 lbs from yesterday so that's a big plus. My eating window starts at 12:00 -12:30 same as I did yesterday so I will post later how things are going. Yahoo!!

carolr3639: I'm not planning on doing the IF way for a long period, just until I can make sure what my body is signaling to be as far as real hunger verses fake. I will only fast mon-thurs and then fri-sun do my regular eating and counting calories.
I kinda worry about the IF putting you in the "diet mentality" as well, when you said your stomach was growling, what would have happened if the water didn't quiet it? would you have still forced yourself to wait until noon before eating or would you have given in to eat because you were truly hungry earlier??
Right now it's a "learn as I go" type of thing because I have literally forgotten what "hunger" is from being on diet after diet and being "told" when, what and how to eat.

Today I just ate when I my stomach felt "light" and it felt like it needed food. I also really thought about what I wanted and ate at the table with no distractions. I have eaten little things about every 2 to 2 1/2 hours and will continue this way until I can figure out my hunger signals. I know back in the day I would get that "light in the stomach" feeling and that is when I would eat, and I remember that "I'm full" thinking but can not remember the signal or feelings for this and HERE lies my biggest challenge. After counting calories, restricting foods or eating IF for all these years my hunger signals are totally "out of sink" and my head tells me what to do!

I'm a work in progress but I'm determined to go back to eating the way I did for some many, many years. Back to a time when food for just for fuel, I savored every bite and ate just what I want, when I wanted and NEVER overate! I can do this again!! :carrot:
I feel the same way! learning when to eat is probably the hardest hurdle for us since we've grown up being told WHEN to eat. You HAVE to eat breakfast, its noon so it's lunch time, it's 5pm so it's dinner time, it all clock based instead of hunger based etc so we totally forget to trust our bodies and to just go with it. For me I would eat dinner between 3 and 4pm and even now I get off work thinking, ok its dinner time.. then I check myself and think, well I'm not hungry so no it's not. Yesterday I climbed on the treadmill instead to pass the time lol gave me feel good endorphins and two hours later I was ready for a real dinner (I didn't stay on the treadmill that long lol just 30 min on the treadmill) but it helped spark my appetite and also relax me for the evening.
This morning when I was half asleep and half awake, weird I know, I was thinking about how I ate as a teenager. I ate lunch whenever lunch time came around at school which was either around 1 or 2 o'clock depending when assigned for the grade I was in. Then Mama usually had supper ready when Daddy got home from work around 5 so we ate around 5:30 or 6. When Daddy was gone at night Mama made fudge. Strange thing is I didn't always eat the fudge with her and my sisters because I didn't want it. When the family ate ice cream or whatever when Daddy was home, I didn't always eat it. If I wasn't hungry, you couldn't make me eat if I didn't want to eat. Back then I could cook a whole meal and never take a bite or it. I just wasn't hungry. That is what I would love to be able to do again.

According to what I read today on the IF thread, I'm not actually following IF because I drink coffee with half and half. However that doesn't bother me since I'm not trying to follow any rules of any kind. When I have to start following a strict rule then it is becoming a diet and I'm defeating my purpose. My coffee gives me the energy I need and I don't get hungry all morning. If and when I do get hungry, I eat. The purpose for me is to learn when I am really hungry so I don't eat when I'm not. Goal is to eat intuitively. I've lived long enough eating on some diets time table etc and I have no intention of eating when or what someone else says I have to. The only reason I eat IF is that is the way I eat "normally", but intuitively. So I guess I'm using the idea of IF modified not really doing IF. I hope I will never fall back into the "diet routine again". When I can eat intuitively again like I did when I was young, growing up, I believe everything will take care of itself. It always did in the past and I expect it to again. I have to work on the good/bad food thoughts now since I still have a tendency to feel like there are certain foods that are bad for me to eat. I'm sure that comes from all those diets that had "forbidden" foods. I find I am constantly reminding myself that it isn't what I eat that is bad for me, it is how much I eat of it that is the problem. Just learn portion control.
Yeah I don't think I could do IF either since it has rules, as soon as I saw you can't eat for 11 hours or 12 hours or even 19 hours etc I knew it would sabbotage everything I've been trying to undo because if something says I CAN'T then my inner rebel instantly wants to show them I CAN lol I can't have cake on this diet? then I'm gonna eat a whole cake just to show you I CAN, I can't have carbs on this diet? this entire loaf of bread I just ate says I CAN, I can't eat until NOON on this diet then this massive breakfast at 9am says I CAN, you get the picture, it not only rebels against the rule but takes it to the extreme lol so for me anything with those kind of rules or any restrictions will hurt me so I'm just gonna stick with IE and let my body be my guide :)

So things are going well here, now that vacation is over and I've been back to work for 3 days now life is back to normal again. Its so nice to be home and have home cooked meals again. I do love eating out etc but not everyday and for every meal. 18 days of fast food or gas station stuff gets old especially since I can't eat gluten my options get even smaller and I get tired of the same thing over and over again. I wish some fast food places would get on the gluten free bandwagon for us Celiacs, know what I can enjoy at McD's? a shake a their hot cake syrup lol Mmmmm doesn't that sound like a filling meal?? LOL nope! a shake is nice every now and then but not as a meal and I'm not tipping up a syrup packet into my mouth, not gonna happen lol So having my kitchen back is wonderful, made a creamy chicken pasta for dinner last night with rice noodles, yum! :) Its the little things in life that add up lol

geoblewis
08-07-2013, 10:47 AM
I've been trying to eat more intuitively, along with my intermittent fasting, and Paleo eating. The one issue I was struggling with was how suggestible I seemed to be with regards to food. When I wake up in the morning, I am usually not hungry. But I still have to make breakfast for my son before he goes off to school. By the time I was done cooking for him, my "appetite" was in full swing. And I don't like starting the day with such a struggle over food so soon!

I was reading The Shangri-La Diet and found something about nose-clipping, where one wears something to prevent from smelling food. In the book, the author suggests to do that while eating as well, to be able to better recognize when one has achieved satiety and not be swayed by how good something smells. Part of our flavor receptor system is in our nose.

So I bought a Speedo swimming nose clip. Have had to bend it open so that it is more comfortable, but it seems to be working for me. This morning I cooked bacon while wearing the nose clip. I didn't want any bacon! Right now I'm roasting a turkey. When I took the nose clip off, the turkey smelled heavenly and I suddenly wanted to have a taste. I put the nose clip back on and I'm no longer intrigued by it.

I like this! I'm going to wear it every day at home. Hopefully someday I won't have to wear it any longer, when I've trained my body to do better with a lower blood sugar level. I learned that our bodies get used to higher blood sugar levels when we consistently overeat, and it takes weeks to get used to the normal levels. To me, normal blood sugar levels feel like I'm hypoglycemic.

spryng
08-07-2013, 11:04 AM
I've been trying to eat more intuitively, along with my intermittent fasting, and Paleo eating. The one issue I was struggling with was how suggestible I seemed to be with regards to food. When I wake up in the morning, I am usually not hungry. But I still have to make breakfast for my son before he goes off to school. By the time I was done cooking for him, my "appetite" was in full swing. And I don't like starting the day with such a struggle over food so soon!

I was reading The Shangri-La Diet and found something about nose-clipping, where one wears something to prevent from smelling food. In the book, the author suggests to do that while eating as well, to be able to better recognize when one has achieved satiety and not be swayed by how good something smells. Part of our flavor receptor system is in our nose.

So I bought a Speedo swimming nose clip. Have had to bend it open so that it is more comfortable, but it seems to be working for me. This morning I cooked bacon while wearing the nose clip. I didn't want any bacon! Right now I'm roasting a turkey. When I took the nose clip off, the turkey smelled heavenly and I suddenly wanted to have a taste. I put the nose clip back on and I'm no longer intrigued by it.

I like this! I'm going to wear it every day at home. Hopefully someday I won't have to wear it any longer, when I've trained my body to do better with a lower blood sugar level. I learned that our bodies get used to higher blood sugar levels when we consistently overeat, and it takes weeks to get used to the normal levels. To me, normal blood sugar levels feel like I'm hypoglycemic.
That is exactly what I struggle with! the difference between TRUE hunger and Pseudo hunger... true hunger comes on gradually and builds into stomach growling, pseudo hunger comes on instantly like the sight of a delicious cake might bring or the smell of baked bread or pizza but because Pseudo hunger will make my stomach growl as well it's so weird to me to seperate it from true hunger which also makes my stomach growl.. its a process for sure.

Beeb
08-07-2013, 01:23 PM
I've been trying to eat more intuitively, along with my intermittent fasting, and Paleo eating. The one issue I was struggling with was how suggestible I seemed to be with regards to food. When I wake up in the morning, I am usually not hungry. But I still have to make breakfast for my son before he goes off to school. By the time I was done cooking for him, my "appetite" was in full swing. And I don't like starting the day with such a struggle over food so soon!

I was reading The Shangri-La Diet and found something about nose-clipping, where one wears something to prevent from smelling food. In the book, the author suggests to do that while eating as well, to be able to better recognize when one has achieved satiety and not be swayed by how good something smells. Part of our flavor receptor system is in our nose.

So I bought a Speedo swimming nose clip. Have had to bend it open so that it is more comfortable, but it seems to be working for me. This morning I cooked bacon while wearing the nose clip. I didn't want any bacon! Right now I'm roasting a turkey. When I took the nose clip off, the turkey smelled heavenly and I suddenly wanted to have a taste. I put the nose clip back on and I'm no longer intrigued by it.

I like this! I'm going to wear it every day at home. Hopefully someday I won't have to wear it any longer, when I've trained my body to do better with a lower blood sugar level. I learned that our bodies get used to higher blood sugar levels when we consistently overeat, and it takes weeks to get used to the normal levels. To me, normal blood sugar levels feel like I'm hypoglycemic.

For me, and I stress here FOR ME, this would be a set up for failure because I would again be restricting myself when I wanted something. I would have taken a taste of that turkey or eaten breakfast if I was TRULY hungry and the key here is TRULY HUNGRY. This is what I'm re-learning and I see obstructing smells or restricting anything as not re-learning but avoiding so I won't eat something even if my stomach is telling me to eat. I am aiming at the place that we all know as children; eat when I'm hungry, stop when I've had enough. At that place the smell and sight of something will not matter. What will matter is TRUE hunger and then eating to just satisfy that TRUE hunger. I am also aiming to the point that no food, no matter what is in control and I can eat when and where I want, IF I want. The only limit will be that I'm full and will only eat when hungry.

I'm happy this is working for you and as is always said: WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WORKS FOR US TO FIND OUR BALANCE! :)

spryng
08-07-2013, 03:13 PM
I agree with you Beeb 100% :) I'm not knocking what others are doing either, the IF etc, I think it's all great if it's working :)

pattygirl63
08-07-2013, 04:07 PM
Got up this morning and drank a cup of coffee as I always do. Then around 10 realized I was hungry for oatmeal and nuked some with strawberries. I am still eating more of an IE way of eating but keeping up with my calories just to see how much I'm eating. Strange that when I'm counting my calories that I'm not really eating all that many most days especially when eating at home making the meals myself.

Did my exercises already and am happy with the way things are going. While I would have a goal of eating only within 5 or 6 hour window, I don't think that I can decide to eat in a set in stone 5 or 6 or even an 8 hour window using IF and be 100% IE. I wish I could. While I may only eat within 5 to 8 hours on some days depending on levels of hunger, but by planning on it in advance just doesn't seem to be 100% IE. At least for me it isn't.

I suppose that is why we all have to do what works for us individually. The old saying "One size fits all" really isn't true when learning to eat when hungry and stop when satisfied.

TamTam
08-07-2013, 06:29 PM
Hi all! Been awol. Hubby and I are FINALLY getting serious about taking care of our diabetes and we are doing a "controlled IE". I have my diet plant from my dietician and have been following it, and doing the exchanges, watching the carbs, etc. Hubby has been put on 2 additional diabetes meds and will meet with the dietician next week. We eat every 3 hours, which is ok because we are usually hungry by the time that meal comes around. So as not to watch the clock, we have our cell alarms set to go off when it's time to eat, I can usually skip until I am hungry if at that time I am not hungry, but if hubby does not eat his blood sugar bottoms out and he gets very ill, so maybe one day when we can get off these meds, we can do IE the way it's supposed to be done. We have both been loosing weight every week, between 1/2 to 2 lbs. so that is a plus.

pattygirl63
08-08-2013, 01:22 PM
Tammy Glad you could check in. Think of you a lot. I know you are busy with all your stores. Check in from time to time when you can.

Not doing IF. Can't fit it with IE for me. This morning wanted only fruit around 10ish and a cup of coffee so that is what and when I ate. Last night ate outside of the 8 hour window more like 9 hour. So have decided to just go with IE rule... when hungry eat and don't eat when I'm not. I remember reading one time that our hunger doesn't work on a time clock, so why should I try to make it follow one. There will days I may eat one meal or there may be days I may eat within a certain number of hours, but I'm not going to plan it. I am not following anyone elses idea of how much or how little exercise I should do either although I am going to exercise everyday. I got messed up on that one a while back too. I was working out 3 days a week at 20 min a day and then someone said that wasn't enough that anyone doing that might as well not exercise. Dah!!! Who made that rule up. Exercise is exercise. I am going to watch the calories just for reference and so I can share with my doc, but I'm 100% IE as of yesterday I guess since that seems to be how it has worked out. Again, it comes down to making thing work for us individually.