Weight Loss Support - *oooh, ahhhh* It's the Independence Firecrackers!!!!

05-28-2003, 02:16 PM
Welcome one and all! :wave:

Our weight loss journey continues! In 5 weeks it will be the 4th of July. What can you accomplish by that date? A new size? A new range of numbers? A new exercise habit?
You have 5 weeks! We can do SO much!

So is this a challenge? Perhaps, if you want it to be. If not, you're still welcome to pull up a chair and join in the conversation. There's strength in numbers, and there's not a pound of :dance: that can beat us!

Make sure you keep your eyes to the sky!

:queen: Punkin o' Friday, your faithful servant....

05-28-2003, 03:12 PM
Hello punkinseed!!!

By the 4th I'd like to be at least 10lbs lighter. I hope I can do that. I think I can!!!!!!

Anyway for those that may not check the other thread here are the wedding pix that are up at the moment. You can find them at

I posted 2 actual pictures on the old thread. More to come on ofoto so check that link often.

Here's to independance day lighter=free er.

05-28-2003, 03:18 PM
Dang, the link doesn't work unless your a registered user. I guess I'll have to just post the highlights.

Here's our cake (it was YUMMY too!) The man stuffing his face in the leather jacket is my sister's husband John. The younger guy hiding behind the pole in the blue shirt is my nephew David. (He's the one that is 6 mos. older than me)

zadie k
05-28-2003, 05:28 PM
Hello all,
Brand spanking new to this board and needing some sort of challenge.

So, my plan is to be down to 150 by July 4th (loss of 9 pounds), stay below 1500 calories a day and stay below 35 grams of fat a day. I am only 5 foot 2 (and wishing I was 5 foot 7 in which case I would not feel inclined to lose anything, hehe) and had some surgery a couple of years ago that totally messed with my metabolism (there really are no diet plans designed for post-menopausal 30 year olds).

I would also like to develop some exercise plan that I do not get bored with. Maybe walking half of my commute.

05-28-2003, 07:18 PM
Thanks to Punkin for starting the thread.:D

I want to be an Independent Firecracker! I just love the sound of that! It's ambitious, but I'd love to get down to 142 pounds by July 4th. That would mean a loss of about 6 pounds; it doesn't sound like much but my weight adores me and doesn't want to let go. :o

05-28-2003, 11:12 PM
I'd like to join in on this pursuit of health, fitness and happiness.
And plan to let freedom ring for five traitorous pounds.

Sparkle on and let's hear a few booms.

05-29-2003, 12:21 AM
i'm in too! i am committing to: losing weight (hoping for -3lbs), writing down my food daily, and exercising 4 days/week minimum. thanks for starting this thread, punkin.looking forward to seeing even more weddng pix, mrs. frogger. take care, all.

05-29-2003, 07:02 AM
Hello all!

Thanks for a "Booming " start Punkin!! Independence Day -- Independence Challenge-- Hmmm- - I might feel a musing coming on!!

Welcome Zadie! So glad you stopped by-- pull up a chair, grab some NO GUILT and FRESH START Cards and tell us some more about yourself please!

And Punkin, did you notice if we come out on the porch ( screened and w/ ceiling fans of course), how the fireworks reflect on the water??

Ok- here I go-- I will come down off the fence and make some goals---Photos from the family party made me see that although 45lbs down is real progress, there is yet work to be done!

For the challenge I will: --
Drink at least 4 liters of water
I will do some kind planned activity at least 5 days a week--
I will continue to climb stairs
I will remeasure, reweigh, reevalulate all foods to relearn portions, etc

I am not going to set a scale number as another goal.

Wouldnt it be great if we had a Personal Trainer ?? Hmmm- or would I prefer a personal housekeeper...??
Today's thought of the day:
" Keep It Simple Sweetie" - from Kaylets
Today's question of the day
"How often do you listen to music? Why? "

Ms Frogger, the 2nd photo looks great, outdoor weddings photos are always so pretty!

To everyone : -- It occurs to me, that up unitil my " Prefer" post, I havent been very vocal about how much I rely on all of you. Very few groups last longer than a few challenges. I'm a newbie at a year, I know many of you have been together longer than that--

I have intermittently joined other threads but most 'didnt fit'-
The dynamics of this group kept me here. Each contribution makes us what we are as a group. When one of us is unable to be here, we miss them.
I am guilty of letting the circus music get too fast and forget to
"appreciate" all of your efforts.
You're all the best!

Take care!

Take care all-

05-29-2003, 07:37 AM
Welcome, Zadie.

Thanks for the thread, Punkin. And so happy you and Mom are going to do the 5K. Isn't it wonderful to think it may all be gone already and that you just need the "fortress" to keep it away.

Lovely pics, Frogger. Maybe we need "one a day" like a vitamin to keep bad spirits away.

Kaylets, enjoyed your "poetry" as well. I'm with the thread about nine months I think and it has been a good "fit" for me as well as a lot of support.

Wildfire, I hadn't thought of the expense of dd going to sisters. Yowch, and will she be able to come home at holidays with all that involved?

Ceara, I'm with you on May being over. It has somehow seemed a confusing month to me. And the beginning of a new month is a whole slate of fresh starts.

May be missing a lot from old thread but......

We actually had some sun yesterday afternoon and my body went into shock that it actually got decently warm. Had lunch yesterday with a friend and actually ran into two others while we were there. So it was a nice social day for me. Felt I did ok on the food but it wasn't my skimpiest day. Had only cottage cheese for breakfast to prepare for lunch though.

QOD - not enough. But when I remember that I NEED music, there is so refreshment of life there. I play tapes in the car all the time, sometimes listen to radio. I get a favorite tape and play it to death. Currently it's one by a local group, Arcona Reel Band, and I have a feeling it would really appeal to Wildfire (who has fiddle music in her soul). It's a collection of old folk tunes, English, Irish, Colonial America, etc. On radio, it's either classical or oldies. When I remember in the house, I like show tunes, older country, polkas. Lively stuff and I like to hear the words if there are any. Some rock classics as well, don't really keep up on current music until it's around long enough to be classic, I'd say.

zadie k
05-29-2003, 11:55 AM
Does anyone have that feeling when they are at work that they want to eat all the time? I have thus far avoided temptation, but I sit at the computer all of the time (law clerck, soon to be lawyer if I pass the bar) which seems to suit itself well to eating. I get to take off for a month and study for the bar exam starting in early July which will mean that I will be busy, but much more self directed. Plus I am going to the Winnipeg Folk Festival (yes, I plan to study hard, grin).

So far doing really well. I started watching what I eat last Saturday and have kept to below 1500 calories and below 35 grams of fat every day. I am also having fun making charts on excel of everything I can think of (weight, calories, BMI, exercise, calories burned, you name it). It is a way of feling like everything is very concrete, even if it is not something that leads to visible results (which is not the point anyway although a nice side effect).

At any rate, I suppose I should actually get some work done at work (just kidding, I have been working frantically for several hours becuase we have a brief due on Monday).

05-29-2003, 02:26 PM
Friday eve!

Ooooh, loving the new thread! Very clean, happy, inspiring and it *feels* like a fresh start doesn't it?

Had a huge post for yesterday but never got to it - it would've contained too many words that 3FC won't allow on posts. In a nutshell we found out my Mom's 1st surgeon both witheld information and lied to us about her diagnosis so things aren't quite as rosy as we were led to think. Thank the powers that be for that 2nd opinion Dr. Mom figuratively ran screaming from Dr. #1 - things will still be ok, but it would've been nice to have been prepaired for what we're looking at now... What a $(&^!#@ jerk! :mad:

Semi related, said bad news did NOT set me off on a pizza-fest. Oh, I wanted to, bad, but didn't. Yeah me!

Anagram - Congratulations on your 1 year weightaversary! (I can make up words right?)

Wildfire - Good luck in your evaluations! Viva la revolution!!!!!

Ceara - A new puppy??? Awwwww.... I want one! I've tried accupuncture for weight loss, but all it did was make my kidneys hurt (no joke) so I quit. Glad your shoulder's better too!

Kaylets - I agree. I've been in groups before that were ok, but if you were new you felt like an outsider - I hope we're not like that since we've been together so long now! I really think we should all meet someday...

Frogger - The cake is beautiful! Sounds like you had a great time on the honeymoon even if the weather didn't quite cooperate. I could mention my theory for your weight loss but I'm just not gonna' go there! ;)

ZadieK - Welcome!!!! I used to think if I was only 6'9 I'd not be overweight at all! :lol: Although I'm am very thankful to be 5'6 1/4 (don't forget that 1/4!). And also, yes, eating at work is a problem because my office is in my Mom's house! We own a California company and run it from my Mom's living room - so the kitchen's like 15 feet away! It's better since I moved out, but still - it's Mom's house and there's always food!

Q o' the Day - Music, daily if not moreso ;) Everything from Godsmack to Norah Jones. Etta James to America. I love music, not specific types of music.

Time to get some work done I guess....

:queen: Punkin o' tomorrow's FRIDAY!!!!! :cb:

05-29-2003, 03:49 PM
Oh, Punkin - thank God Mom went for a second opinion. But sorry you have to face more than expected. (Hope Mom doesn't mind my shorthand in referring to her as Mom since I'm probably older than she.) And congrats on the NSV of a non-pizza fest. And now I know what a killer Scrabble player you are with that "w" word.

Yes, I love the new and fresh thread too. Maybe that's a good reason not to let "expired" ones go too long. I too hope I am able to welcome new sparklers as I was welcomed here.

Great on food so far today. Even though it meant I had to talk dh out of eating out today so I could get some healthy, low salt food into us. He must wonder what happened to his old wife who ate out at every opportunity. (NSV?)

05-29-2003, 08:57 PM
Welcome Zadie! I wish you all the best on your weight loss journey.

Anagram-congrats on your weight loss in this past year!

Frogger-your wedding picture is lovely. Glad you enjoyed your honeymoon.

I am taking NO GUILT and FRESH START cards. I realized today is my 1 year anniversary here. I have lost 10 lbs. in the past year. While I would have loved to have lost more, I am glad to have gotten rid of that weight and plan to keep going with renewed interest and effort. I stuck to what I had planned to eat for today, wrote it all down, and exercised.

Punkin- relieved your mom got second opinion so you all know exactly what the situation is. it must have have been rough though to hear news so different from what she was originally told. I'm sending out good thoughts your way.

i love music-all kinds, and listen to it often. it soothes me. i like classical, jazz, blues, rock, etc, and it just depends on my mood as to what type i want to listen to at any given time.

my friend who was married last weekend called me again yesterday, thanking me for making the effort to attend his wedding. i am so glad i went also. it really seemed to have meant a lot to him. i am still trying to catch up on rest since i got home, but it was all so worth it, not to mention fun.

hi to all! thinking of you. hope everyone has a good evening. take care, wsw.

05-29-2003, 09:43 PM
Punkin, I'm so sorry that you and Mom are preparing for a bigger battle than you thought. Words fail, just know that you're in my thoughts. Stay strong!!! And I'm so proud of you for not giving in to the seductive call of pizza--geez, I would've been all over it.

I have to confess that I'm in a post-40 funk. :( I don't know, guys, the day came and went without much happening. I guess I expected the heavens to open up and the secrets of the universe to be bestowed on me [being a baby crone and all!]---but ehhh, nothing!:mad: CRUD! No wonder I OD'd on cake!

05-29-2003, 09:49 PM
Sorry about the post 40 funk but get it over with and then get on. Mine didn't hit me at 40 but at 41 = wow. I think that's when I realized I'd always be OVER 40. Baby crone - I like that, such a cute image. You're probably more a Roman candle than a crone now that you're an Independence Firecracker.

Such a thoughtful friend, wsw to call you to thank you for coming. Sounds like it was worth the discomfort.

Did some stretches, some yardwork, a walk (not to mention housework because I try to block that part out). Decent on food and I think on water. I sort of lost track. Get with it, girlie.

05-30-2003, 06:52 AM
Hello all!!

Yes, the new thread is nice and airy and has that great " new thread

Punkin- So sorry to hear the news about Mom. Its horrible to find out the
hard way that we have to confirm what the doctors tell us ourselves --
My very best to Mom and your family.
Remember we are always here to listen no matter what.
And a big standing ovation on your Non Scale Victory regarding the pizza!

Anagram- Did you see the sun for those few hours yesterday? By 2 pm it was so
dark and threatening again!! Its was almost like the sun had forgotten itself and had
come out from the clouds by mistake! Another rainy weekend upon us-- I think we
are setting a record.

WSW- 10 lbs down is STILL 10 lbs gone!! GOOD FOR YOU!! I'm w/ you about
listening to whatever I'm in the mood to hear! And sometimes, I even listen to
Books on tape-- I think they are perfect for Traffic jams-- In fact, I have 2 I've
never heard before that I found.... you guessed it... at a yard sale.
One is by Cal Ripken, the baseball player called, "The Only Way I Know".

As for age funk-- early 40's did not upset me. Coming closer to the 50's is giving me
serious pause however. DH felt it too but then our visit to Tampa last week made us
see things in a different light. There are so many folks in their 80's and 90's out and
about in the stores and restraunts it put things back in perspective.
Another reason to remember that "Today is the day!".

Zadie- how are you doing? Passing the bar exam here in the states can be quite
an ordeal- I slightly familiar w/ some of the Canadian laws from registering some of
our clients in Canadian provinces. Good luck to you. Did I understand that your
employer will pay you to study ?? How wonderful!
I have trouble getting stuck at the computer all day too. Sometimes the
running to the bathroom is my only reason to get up out of the chair!

Time to pack the lunches --

Hello to eveyone I missed! Frogger, Arabella, Eydie, Wildfire, Empress, Scooby,
Senamay, MissW........ I know I'm forgetting someone!
Today's thought is:

"Don't let failure go to your head" -- Haim Ginott
Today's question is:

"Name a benefit to cleaning your closet"--Table Topics


Take care all!

05-30-2003, 07:04 AM
Just a fly-by to say :wave: to all my Esteemed Co-Firecrackers! I'm swamped again, despite my dreams of being organized at the first of the week. Not totally my fault -- I accepted an extra assignment (for the $$) on Tuesday that basically ate up Tues. aft. and all day Weds. so I'm behind on my scheduled work again. But it can be done, and I'm still going to try to do it in as sane a way as possible.

The Independence theme is a sure-fire winner! I'm shooting for 10 pounds off by the Fourth.

Love the thought of the day - I really have a problem with failure, self-fullfilling prophecy, worring about it and so on. Time to declare independence!

Let's make this a good one. Love to all!

05-30-2003, 07:26 AM
you're timing couldn't have been more perfect-
I too am in an "overscheduled" crunch and have a speech due
in less than 2 weeks- ( gave one this past Wed - 1st day back at work- whew- they said I did well but I sure didnt feel prepared!)

Anyway, makes sense to me to use a topic I feel enthusiasm !
I was wondering if I should do an Independence theme-
You reminded me of my musing regarding success in your signature line ( thanks again, I still am flattered...)

Thanks for dropping by at the perfect moment!

Didn't I tell you all that you are just the best!!!

:D :) :lol: :p :)

05-30-2003, 08:01 AM
Good Morning All!!

No new pix for you. Sorry. I'm developing cameras this weekend so by next week sometime I should have a link to a site that works!!!

I'm leaving work early today (only by 30 minutes) to go to the social security office to change my name. Can't change my license until I change my SS card.

GUESS WHAT HAPPEND TO ME! I got a stupid ticket. Turning right on red. It's legal in the state of Virginia!! Apparently everywhere but at this one intersection. Cop walked right out infront of me to stop me. There's a tiny (no joke here) sign that says no right turns mon.-fri. 7am-7pm. I looked at the clock. 7:05pm by my clock. Cop wrote the ticket for 6:55pm. I was like it's past 7. He stated he pulled me over at 6:55. AHHHHHH! I can't win!!!!!! This always happens the week we get back from a major vacation. I always get a ticket. I was doing so well too.
I admit I drowned my sorrows in a pint of ben and jerry fish food frozen yogurt. But I didn't eat the whole thing. (Almost, but not quite)

Anyway, bye for now.

05-30-2003, 08:21 AM
Kaylets, yes I revelled in the sun yesterday. As you said, like it got absented minded and showed up. Stillnice this a.m. but rain coming for sure. I think they said we had ten days this month with no measurable rain, something discouraging like that. But we have sunshine in our hearts.

Amazing how many people even older than I have such a ball. Have a friend who's 90, lost her hubby last fall (he was 95). She's all set up for her elderhostel classes/travel for this summer. Mind sharp as a tack. Nice to have such a role model. She's always been in good health though and that's another reason to work on getting/staying healthy. Was talking about buying a computer as she feels "left behind" so we discussed her trying it out at a library and she thinks that's a great idea and will go for it. She just learned of the Red Hat Society and is going for that as well - she's a perfect candidate.

Arabella, so nice to have you here. Those $$$ will count in the crunch and Independent Firecrackers (you too, Kaylets) can handle those wild and crazy days (I hope).

Ah changing your name! One of those really life altering moments. I've always kept my maiden name as my middle name though as I just couldn't give it up altogether.

Well, dh and I plan to go to our favorite state park for the afternoon (weather holding off long enough). So I'm planning our picnic lunch (all healthy - this will be a first). Takes about an hour drive and we'll get a good walk in while there, also check out the new pool that opened this year. Should be a good one - hope yours is the same.

05-30-2003, 08:26 AM
Re cleaning closets, my first reaction is just that it's done. But it's also the things you find. Was cleaning up a bit in garage yesterday and found some Christmas decorations that had been missing for years. I know the garage has been cleaned often enough in those years and don't have a clue why they didn't surface before. It's time to hit the closet in a spare bedroom that my son refers to as an "archeological dig" but that one has lots of memories and takes even longer than the more used ones because I have to sit and think about everything.

05-30-2003, 01:52 PM
:cb: Iiiiiiit's Friday!!!! :cb:

Funny, I'm learning that the more people that know about Mom's cancer, the easier it's getting. My Mom *finally* told my brother, so I feel relieved now when I talk to him - like I finally don't have a secret. I also told "my guy" yesterday in an email. He'd asked what was wrong last week when he called and I said "nothing". So, now he knows and he sent me a long email this morning telling me I have his support and he promised to keep me laughing through this... I'm learning too that I have awesome friends - both tangible and on my computer screen. :grouphug:

Anagram - My Mom's had so many people call her "Mom" I'm sure another, regardless of age, is just fine by her.

WSW - Another weightaversary! 1 year at 3FC! :cb:

Eydie - I had the 33 funk. I know, it's not the same, but it was one of those "what am I doing with my life" kinda things. It's hard, but I just keep reminding myself that it's not about finding out the worlds answers *now*, it's about the journey you take to get them answered! (that's my 1 Ghandi moment, no more for the year)

Arabella - :wave: I hope work lets you visit more! We'll save you some sparklers!

Frogger - Oooooh, bad cop! No, you can't win stuff like that, chalk it up to paying your dues to the city...

Q o' the day - The benefit to cleaning your closet, besides finding stuff you thought you'd lost, is that now you can buy more clothes! I just cleaned mine last Sunday - resulting in 3 garbage bags of clothes going to Goodwill that haven't been worn in a long time because they were too small or now too big (still very nice). I made myself promise that what I bought to replace these clothes must fit NOW and be flattering - no more tents to cover me up and no more thinking it's all got to be black.
I've been watching too many "What Not To Wear" episodes.... :chin:

Where is our Amarantha??? :?:

Enjoy the weekend!

:queen: Punkin o' Friday - and it's FRIDAY!!!!!

05-30-2003, 04:34 PM
hey all! hope everyone's having a good friday.

anagram-so true about my friend calling me the other day. he is a great friend, and i am truly blessed to have such wonderful friends.

punkin-glad to hear your guy is being supportive too. also nice to know that you no longer have to have the added concern of keeping your mom's condition secret anymore.

eydie-sorry about the 40 slump. i remember going through one right before turning 40, questioning what i have done so far, etc. it gets better--believe me! do something really sweet for yourself. pamper yourself in whatever way sounds fun for you--pedicure, manicure, facial, or massage or--whatever you'd like. it's a nice way to remind yourself how you to deserve to be treated.

hi to everyone else also!

i am keeping up with my food journal, got my exercising in earlier today than yesterday since it was so gorgeous out, and am sticking to my food plan for today so far. also, thurs. will be my regular weigh-in day now.

well, take care, all. have a good weekend!

all the best,

zadie k
05-30-2003, 04:38 PM
Hello all. It has been a good and busy day. Holding in there, but I really need to talk a nap or something. Very happy that it is Friday, but I need to study this weekend so...

Must dash. Work becons.

05-30-2003, 05:22 PM
Happy Friday, friends.

That July 4th goal sounds good, here are mine:

Fried food is out of my life - let's see if I can make it to July 4.

Walk every other day for 30 min. I'm so out of shape that waking every day nearly ended my life.

OK, there they are. I know they don't sound very ambitious, but I weigh 225 and have been sedentary and eating whatever I want for about a year now. I'm weak and short of breath and my belly's HUGE...etc, etc.

So, back on track (hope to God) and in my own slump, Chickadees, you'll probably hate me, but I'm 30 in two years!!! I just turned 28 this last Sunday. Argh! What have I done with my life? I'm fat - wasting my youth! This is the heaviest I've ever been! Walking nearly kills me! Pant, pant, pant.

OK, enough negativity. You're reading the post of a girl who has neglected her health for a long, long time.

On the positive side: I've been a real vegetarian (no animal flesh) for a year now, though going meatless usually spurs a weight gain (weird, huh?). This year, I'm trying to swear off fried food (not counting stir-fried - I'd starve to death) and really go for whole grain intake.

Whaddaya think?

05-30-2003, 06:08 PM
Hello Everyone!
This is my first post. My best friend, Punkinseed, as invited me to share 3FC. I have read some of the threads, you all sound like a great bunch of people.

As for 4th of July, my goal is to be down 10 pounds. I started getting REALLY serious about losing weight 3 weeks ago and have lost 8 pounds! I am doing the right things this time, working out, water(lots of water), and making much better food choices. I feel great and I hope I can continue in this mode.

Nice to meet you,


05-30-2003, 06:17 PM
I think you're on the right track, Cerise (and by the way, I like that name). And I think you'll make great progress and, by the way, welcome to the challenge. Certainly start your exercising in moderate amounts. And when you get up to speed you'll probably be walking rings around me. And the fact that you're young gives you some great advantages but, no, you don't want to spend the rest of your life heavy.

Oh, Punkin, I'm glad you told "your guy" so he can be there to support you. Glad you're emailing back and forth too. I like that he's promised to keep you laughing. Good rapport.

zadie, don't forget to "book" some fun breaks in all that studying. I remember when my DD took the bar. Yikes, I thought she'd have both of us in a "nervous breakdown" situation (even though she lived in another city at the time). And once you've taken it, you have that long wait for the results and then almost another "breakdown" time. Are you taking a prep course?

DDIL was another story. She SAID she wasn't nervous and was calm enough around me but she had to leave testing early the first day because she didn't feel well and I think it was the stress though she denied that. Anyway, I hope you have some relaxation times built in to the studying.

Dr. Phil is promoting another show on weight for Monday.

We really enjoyed the picnic in the park today and got in one very nice long walk and then another shorter one.

05-30-2003, 06:24 PM
Welcome Bo-Beena. Any friend of Punkin's is ..........

Eight pounds is a great loss! Takes me months to do that. So while you're on a roll........It does sound like you're doing things the right way and I wish you continued success.

05-30-2003, 06:28 PM
Thanks, Anagram. I don't feel very young, but that's got nada to do with my age.

Whew, taking the bar sounds...frightening. Zadie, kudos to you - did I miss this - when's your exam? I'll dedicate my daily walk to you (don't laugh, I think it works!).

Picnics! I'm always trying to think of ANY way to make meal/snack time special, to employ as many senses as possible while I'm eating so I'm not just stuffing the food down. A wonderful way to celebrate spring, Anagram. You've inspired me.

05-30-2003, 06:33 PM
Heya, Bo-Beena. What kind of food choices?

zadie k
05-30-2003, 06:50 PM
Ahhh. A break from the hectic work day. Hope everyone is doing well. I am totally impressed with how dedicated everyone seems to be to healthy lifestyles. Keeps me from getting frustrated to see what other people are doing.

I take the bar at the end of July. I am not taking a prep course, but I have a bunch of the prep books from someone who took the class last year. And dedicating a walk to me is fine - I need all the help I can get.

05-30-2003, 09:22 PM
Okay, so I took a slight detour on the way over from the last challenge....but better late than never, right? :yes:

Hey, we have **new members** :dancer: Welcome to Zadie, Cerise, and Bo-Beena! :wave: Bo-Beena, I'll be singing the "Name Game" song every time I see you post! :lol:

I have been in bed very early this week, due to my blasted back. Can't sit up by the end of the day. Couldn't get through to the doctor today, they've gone on summer hours. She has to do something for me, and soon!

Well, the evaluation went better than I had expected. My boss gave me a very good review, I addressed some issues with him, and I included some points in my written comments that were sent to our CFO in head office. He spoke to my boss yesterday (my boss told me this afternoon) and said, "It sounds like Wildfire has some concerns we need to address." FINALLY!!!!!

I'm going to think about goals for this challenge.

Punkin, I'm sending all the good vibes :goodvibes I can muster to your Mom. Glad you told your guy....let him (and us!) hold you up when you need it.

Frogger, I can't believe that cop! How completely unfair! Being an ******* is one thing....that guy was the whole freakin' ***! I'd fight that one, if I were you.

:wave: to all....will check in tomorrow.

05-30-2003, 10:24 PM
Welcome Bo-Beena and Cerise!

Wildfire-hope your back is better soon! glad to hear your review went well and that they are finally listening to your concerns in the head office.

well, take care, all.

05-30-2003, 10:33 PM
Punkinseed, have fun with the walk tomorrow. We'll be with you in spirit!

Cerise, I love your idea of dedicating a walk!:D By the way, I think we have a couple of things in common: we're both vegetarian and share the same birthday!

Bo-Beena, we love our Punkin and I'm so envious that you get to see her in person! Lucky duck!

Welcome, Zadie!

Anagram, thanks for the heads up on Dr. Phil--I'll be watching!

What's everyone doing this weekend? I'm planning on doing a lot of gardening if the weather cooperates.

05-31-2003, 02:01 AM
:flow2: Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.

Anagram, thank for the wish of continued sucess, I will need all the help I can get. I have a loooong way to go before goal.

Cerise, you asked what kinds of foods.
I think we all have our problem areas, so I started in on the worst ones. For me that is not eating enough veggies and I eat too much fast/processed foods. So I am working on more meals at home with smaller portions sizes. Another thing that I have nearly cut out is soda. I have done this a few times in my life. The problem for me is if I have in the frig easy to grab, I'll drink it. Now I only buy diet(bless my husband for converting to diet with NO complaints) and it is in the garage so you really have to want one. On the flip side I have bottled water right there easy to grab at all times. I drink 4-6 bottles (8-12 glasses worth)of water daily.
Cerise, I admire you to try to cut out fried foods. I don't eat a lot of fried foods but to give them up all together, I am rooting for you!
Eydie, yes I do get to see Punkin in person but not as much as I would like. Since she now lives in OR and I am in CA. We get together a few times a year but we are on the phone daily. She is the coolest person.
I can't wait to get to know you all better.

05-31-2003, 02:09 AM
Wildfire, I hope you back is improved, it is very difficult to do anything when your back is hurt. Yes, Bo-Beena is from the name song, a co-worker of mine years ago dubbed me Bo-Beena and it has just stuck.BTW I love your little fireball icon, it is the cutest! :)


05-31-2003, 07:46 AM
Hello all!!

Welcome Cerise and Bo-Beena!! This is great! The more the merrier-- !! Please grab yourself NO GUILT and FRESH START cards and make yourselves comfy.

Bo-Beena, might you be the friend who shrink wrapped individual servings of Bridge Mix for Punkin??

Looks like we're all getting motivated to keep moving. I was just thinking yesterday,next time I bumped into the old fashiioned pedometer that's bumping around my dresser drawer, to put it on.

DH and I are on our way out to find Rain or Shine Yard Sales as the forecast is (again) for more rain. Last couple rainy weekends, we did get some great buys so we're hoping....

But for todays' thought of the day, I'm going to borrow the one from the WW's home page this am.
" Persistence is better than Perfection"
And today's question of the day is:
"When was the last time you spent money frivolously?"


Woke up this am, regular time and finally feel rested. Amazing how much last weekend took out of me! Am really glad I took Tuesday off -- seeing how I felt Wed and Thurs, Tuesday would have been tough!

Job had their Spring Hula Party ( No, I have no idea why they do this....!) AND-- I suspected there was a big cake -- so, I stayed away-- BIG piece was brought back to my desk but the offer was made, " I can eat it for you" -- I said, "Yes, please do"-- Then, the cake came upstairs-- AND --- I stayed away from it long enough for it to get all eaten up ! When I went into the coffee room-- THE BOX WAS EMPTY!!

The safety belt on my wagon is working!!

Take care all!

05-31-2003, 08:35 AM
Bummer on the back pain not easing, Wildfire. Sounds like you really do need help SOON. But congrats on super evaluation and on points being acknowledged. Keep us up on that. A Wildfire adds so much to an Independence Firecracker thread.

Fill us in Punkin on how that walk went. I just love it that you're doing it with Mom.

Glad you're getting your sparkle back, Kaylets. You'd been planning that weekend so long I'm sure it's worth all that energy spent. Big NSV too. Cake is one of my BIG weaknesses.

No big weekend plans here. Rain expected again (can you tell Kaylets and I are usually part of the same pattern?) but will try for walks, yard work. The big event will probably be this evening when my nephew is bringing his fiance to meet us (or for us to meet her). I'm sure I'll love her.

05-31-2003, 02:19 PM
Kaylets, yes I am the one who shrink wrapped Punkins favorite, bridge mix, it was a labor of love. Kudos on the NSV, cake at parties is always sooo tempting, good for you!

QOD, last weekend, my hubby and I redid our bedroom, painted in a soft green w/cream trim, LOVE IT. However, nothing matched anymore, soooo went out and bought all new curtains, comforter set and my favorite, throw pillows. What fun and the result is fantastic, it is a whole new room!

Weekend plans? Gotta a home interior party today and a partylite candle party tomorrow. Gonna squeeze in some yard work and home improvement(kitchen is next) in there, too.

I am finding I do much better about food when I have other things going on that keep me out of the frig. I have been working on only eating when I am hungry, boy is that an eye opener. Also, when I find myself digging through the cabinet, I ask myself, "Are you really hungry?". It has seemed to help.
Talk with ya later :wave:

05-31-2003, 09:08 PM
Rainy, rainy Saturday....perfect for a good book and a hot cup of tea. Didn't do much at all today. Tomorrow I'm meeting up with my new pal from online. Not sure what we're doing yet...shopping, movie, coffee, etc.

Today I had the "crunchies" and instead of having chips like I initially went for, I put them back and had a green apple instead. I think a goal for this challenge is to stop that impulse to go for the junk food and try for something healthier instead. No mindless eating, either.

Bo Beena, we were all so impressed with the individually wrapped servings of bridge mixture! What a great friend you are! Your "new" bedroom sounds great....I love green. Of course, I'd love anything right now....I inherited a screaming violet bedroom from the last tenant and I'm getting tired of it. Are you a Partylite addict, too? I have so much of their stuff....hubby shudders when he hears that I'm going to another party.

Oooh, anagram....meeting the fiancee....how exciting! I hope she's terrific!

Kaylets, any good deals at the yard sales today? Way to go on avoiding the cake at work. :bravo:

Punkin, hope the walk went well!

QOD....it's been a long time since I spent money frivolously. Being the Bargain :queen:, I'm always on the lookout for a deal and keep a mental list of things we need. I watch for things that I want to go on sale, rarely pay full price for anything. Even when I have extra money to spend, I still go for the most bang for the buck! Like today, I ordered five shirts for a total of $60.00. It'll depend on if they fit when they arrive whether or not I keep them, but for that price they were worth ordering to see!

Back to my book....:wave:

06-01-2003, 07:56 AM
Hello all!

I "lurked " by about 8 pm last night but wasnt feeling well -- am hoping this new
lethargy is just TOM making an appearance--Took a 3 hr nap yesterday and went to
bed by 8:30 -- Slept thru till almost 5:30 am so am obviously needing the rest, just
not sure why.

Rain started by 10 am yesterday -- we kept stopping at yardsales even though it was
raining- seems as though folks cut prices once the rain started.
DH fell in love w/ two low impact "air walkers" - I don't think they're the ones
you see on tv but very similiar-- We got both for $20.00 (if that's any indication
of what people were doing after the 6th Saturday of rain! Another sale had
cookbooks for .10 each! Martin Yan was one of them! The same one on tv!
That one also had a brand new George Forman Grill we took for $10.00. DH broke it
in w/ portabellas, onions, sweet potato slices and etc. last night.
I know many of you had commented on the grill previously-- another nice feature is that
it doesnt seem to throw a lot of heat either. Our gas grill rusted thru over the winter
and since we have don't eat meat or poultry anymore, couldnt justify the expense of replacing it.

We also stopped at a church flea market about 11am which was perfect timing because
the prices had just been dropped. Picked up some Audio-Cassette books for
$1.00 each. Summer traffic in this area is very bad on the weekends but w/ a book
to listen to makes it bearable! A couple of the titles are questionable but for a $1.00.....
Another is the biography of Pope Paul which I expect to be very interesting.

Today's thought is: " Nature gives men two ends--- one to sit on and one think with. Everh stince
then man's succes or failure has been dependent on the one he used the most."
---George Kilpatrick
Today's question of the day:
Name one technical advancement you think will happen in the next
five years.
---Table Topics


Word to the wise, I wish I had used my head on this one!
Brought a about a pound of carrots to work on Friday and ate most of them.
Then about 3 pm, I began to fill up w/ gas and severe cramping.
Never really had this reaction from carrots before and will remember it a long
time! I could hardly breathe without making noise if you know what I mean,
to make it worse, we had a huge crisis which had the entire unit stay an hour late.
Sure wish I had something in my desk drawer that would have helped me out!
Can you use Beano after you eat??

Take care all!

06-01-2003, 09:42 AM
All that yard saling plus a rainy day would be enough to seduce me into a long nap, Kaylets. Hope you regain energy soon. Do you think maybe Sat. lethargy was connected to Fri. tummy problems?

Fiancee is a sweetie, Wildfire. Glad to finally meet her. Usually I'd have been one of the first. She's 26, he's 29. She seems full of humor and pretty well organized (of course, I don't think he'd have it any other way). His Mom (my sis) likes her a lot and this guy's her baby so that's saying a lot.

And I served Kaylet's pineapple angel food cake - ta da! DH liked it a lot so it's a keeper here. Also served some of those GS cookies from the freezer and a few homemade ones.

Soft green and cream sounds loverly. So restful, so elegant.

Wildfire I also tend to buy only "bargains". I've been having a big debate with me about whether or not I should spend $5 on a basket of flowers I saw at Wally world the other day. If it had not been pouring cats/dogs, I'd have probably picked them up that day. But I didn't and now I'm saying should I go back there ior pick up one when I see it for 8.99 or 9.99. I've fussed more over that couple of dollars, even I can't believe I did it and I KNOW how tight I can be with myself.

Anyway, damp again this morning. But I'm kicking off my Fresh Start a day early. Demon Scale showed a fresh new low number this morning. I'm tired of this water up/down thing and am considering just mentioning when DS falls to a new low. It's a tiny new low but .2 & .2 & .2 will eventually make a pound if I persevere. It's those 2 lbs up, then 1 lb down, then .6 up, then 1 lb down things that get discouraging.

No major plans again today. Hope to get walk in, I didn't yesterday. Did do a small amount of yard work yesterday. Both knees (artificial) have been making bad noises the last few weeks and I tremble. Have an appt the end of this month and hope he'll just tell me they're looking good and the noises and tenderness will go away. Suspect I may have been overusing them and DO NOT WANT to ever, ever have that surgery again so will be being a mite more careful. I was just so happy that I was able to walk so well again and all of that. Cross fingers this is a temporary bump.

Empress, how's the BFL going?

Arabella, new month. Hope you ended May with a bang and are relaxing today. Or does month extend to Monday when last day falls on weekend?

06-01-2003, 05:53 PM
Hi everybody-

I think I mentioned I gave a speech at Toastmasters last Wed-
I am going to post it as the ending most of you will remember from the first time I posted the story.
In fact, your response to that post made me realize that others would enjoy the story too. Here's the rough draft- I spoke from memory so ... don't have exactly what I said!

I hope you enjoy--

--------------------------Circus to Simple--------------------------

MR Toastmaster, Fellow Toastmasters, Honored Guests--

Does your life ever feel like a 3 ring circus? With feroucious animals and a high wire act that never uses a net?

I can relate.

I think I can help you by teaching you how to kiss. Not a physical kiss but the acronym "KISS". You might have heard it before as "Keep it Simple Stupid"-- I prefer my version, "Keep it Simple Sweetie"

Have you ever had a project get away from you? No matter how much time you devoted to it, seemed to take on a life of its own? Computer crashed, meetings resheduled, deliveries delayed. Frustrating isnt it? I would think, how can I do this job perfectly w/ when all these problems keep happening? And that was my first mistake- That I thought I could do it perfectly. I immeaditately set myself up for disappointment no matter how well I did because in my mind I had set an unattainble goal. No matter how much sleep I lost, nails I chewed, meals I missed-- Perfection would never be possible.

But by Keeping it Simple Sweetie, I still give my best effort and am satisfied knowing that I gave it my best. The things that happen beyond my control, are just that, beyond my control.

Let me take the Keep it Simple Sweetie a step further-- In fact, I'll spell it out--


We've all heard, If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Thomas Edison was the poster boy for that motto-- The first working lightbulb was Experiment 1000-- The secret of his persistence??? My guess is motivation.
Edison found new ways to stay motivated to find the lightbulb of his imagination. To paraphrase Zig Ziglar,
Motivation doesnt last, neither does bathing-- that's why we recommend doing it daily



I've learned the heardway that the circus music only plays faster and faster when I take on more responsibilities than I can handle. Have you ever had a bad head cold or touch of the flu but went to work anyway? And everything took 3x as long to do becuase of the mistakes you kept making??
Atheltes are taught to pace themselves for best results overall. They are taught that rest and nutrition are as important as practice, Why should it be any different for me?

S- Stress

The best news about stress is that we;ve stopped bragging about how much of it we can handle.
Most of us are trying to "destress our lives" . Hundreds of books, tapes and classes are available - Excercise, yoga, meditation--
A very simple stress reliever you might like to try is this;
Put a tiny sticker on your watch band. Everytime you see the sticer -- breathe deeply 3X- Slowly- Inhale and then slowly, exhale--
Too hard to remember??

Here's a tranquil scene that is sure to calm you.

Imagine yourself at the edge of a beautiful lake. You can hear birds singing. You can feel a soft breeze on your face. Its just wonderful to be here at the edge of the water, as you are holding your annoying (fill in the blank please ) 's head under the water!!!

Which leads us to the second S-

S--Sense of Humor or Life is too important to be taken seriously
About 25 yrs ago, I was very near goal ( WW's experience #2), and was working a 2nd job as a bartender. It was springtime and I was very proud that I could wear a skinny jean wrap skirt. I was walking everywhere and since the bar was only 3 miles or so from home, I walked there often. So I get dressed and off I go on a beautiful spring Saturday morning. And it was a great walk-- My breathing was good, my stride in rhythm, the blood was singing in my ears-- and so many people I knew were driving by!! Honking hello and waving!! Seemed like everyone was out enjoying the spring day!! Once I got closer to the bar, I was passing some stores. As I said, I was very close to goal so naturally, was spending lots of extra time admiring my accomplishments. So, I looked in the big plate glass of one store to study my skinny profile again ...... and ...... realized...... the back of my skirt was stuck up inside my pantyhose exposing my butt the entire 3 mile walk!!!! I did have big white panties on but ----- can you imagine......... here I am waving back and smiling at folks who I probably didnt know in the first place!!
with my butt sticking out!!!

So if you're ever trying to run away from the circus, trying KISSing your way out!

06-01-2003, 08:38 PM
Hidy-ho, Firecrackerettes! :D

Kaylets, GasX might have saved you from the carrot torture. It's basically activated charcoal and absorbs the excess gas. Great deals at the yard sales! I still don't have a GF Grill. Just refuse to pay full price for one....maybe I should start scouting the yard sales!

Anagram, glad to hear the fiancee is a sweetie. Makes life so much simpler when you actually like people and don't just tolerate them because they're family. Give those knees a break! I can't imagine going through that surgery once, nevermind twice!

Had quite a lovely day today. My new pal met me at my place and we went off for a wander through our nice little downtown core, including a stroll on the fabulous boardwalk we have here. It was beautiful and sunny, with a perfect breeze. We walked around for three hours! We did stop for a cold drink along the way, and browsed in a couple of quaint but overpriced stores. We're finding out we have a lot in common, from the books we read to views on relationships....speaking of which, she met her hubby online, too! This new friendship seems to be taking off, which is really nice. I find it isn't easy to make friends as an adult, what with work/family committments, etc. My ankles are sore from all the walking! I had a nap while hubby went to get groceries, and the kettle is on now. Geez, I wish I didn't have to work tomorrow, but I suppose I should be glad I have a job that pays the bills, right?

No movement on Demon Scale this week, but I wasn't expecting any.

Here's to a great week!

06-02-2003, 07:40 AM
Hello all!

now have 3 days in a row of being On Program, water, Activity
and also enough rest. Starting to feel the momentum.!!!!!
Heard about but havent read a study that claims not enough rest is a real factor in overweight. Anyone else seen it??


Today's thought is:

"An investment is life is an investment in change..." Leo Buscalgia

Today's question is:

Should cooking/nutrition be a required subject in High school?"-- Table topics


Here's to a great start on Monday--

06-02-2003, 07:42 AM
--- MONDAY MEMO ----

Monday Memo:

It is advised that you come to work dressed according to your salary. If
we see you wearing $350 Prada sneakers & carrying a $600 Gucci bag we
assume you are doing well financially and therefore you do not need a
raise. If you dress poorly, you need to learn to manage your money
better, so that you may buy nicer clothes and therefore you do not need
a raise. If you dress in-between, you are right where you need to be and
therefore you do not need a raise.

We will no longer accept a doctor statement as proof of sickness. If you
are able to go to the doctor, you are able to come to work.

Operations are now banned. As long as you are an employee here, you need
all your organs. You should not consider removing anything. We hired you
intact. To have something removed constitutes a breach of employment.

Each employee will receive 104 personal days a year. They are
called Saturday & Sunday.

All employees will take their vacation at the same time every year. The
vacation days are as follows: Jan. 1, July 4 & Dec. 25

This is no excuse for missing work. There is nothing you can do for dead
friends, relatives or coworkers. Every effort should be made to have
non-employees attend to the arrangements. In rare cases where employee
involvement is necessary, the funeral should be scheduled in the late
afternoon. We will be glad to allow you to work through your lunch hour
and subsequently leave one hour early, provided your share of the work
is done.

Entirely too much time is being spent in the restroom. In the future, we
will follow the practice of going in alphabetical Order. For instance,
all employees whose names begin with 'A' will go from 8:00 to 8:20,
employees whose names begin with 'B' will go from 8:20 to 8:40 and so
on. If you're unable to go at your allotted time, it will be necessary
to wait until the next day when your turn comes again. In extreme
emergencies, employees may swap their time with a coworker. Both
employees' supervisors must approve this exchange in writing. In
addition, there is now a strict 3-minute time limit in the stalls. At
the end of three minutes, an alarm will sound, the toilet paper roll
will retract, the stall door will open and a picture will be taken.
After your second offense, your picture will be posted on the company
bulletin board under the "Chronic Offenders" category.

Skinny people get 30 minutes for lunch as they need to eat more so that
they can look healthy. Normal size people get 15 minutes for lunch to
get a balanced meal to maintain their average figure. Fat people get 5
minutes for lunch, because that's all the time needed to drink a Slim
Fast and take a diet pill.

Thank you for your loyalty to our company. We are here to provide a
positive employment experience. Therefore, all questions, comments,
concerns, complaints, frustrations, irritations, aggravations,
insinuations, allegations, accusations, contemplations, consternation
and input should be directed elsewhere.

Have a nice week.

06-02-2003, 07:50 AM
Good Morning All!!

And WELCOME to our new members :wave:

I know, I know. I haven't posted anymore pictures from the wedding, but I promise I will. I took in 6 cameras to be developed. (Gee, that only leaves 11 more!) So we'll see what we'll get.

Wildfire, I hope your back gets better. As a person that occationally has back problems, I feel your pain. There as been times that I could not stand up and went crawling around. It's scary to me.

Today I am comitting to the July 4th challenge. I lost 20lbs for my wedding and I feel like I'm ready to start losing some more. As previously posted, I'm looking for a 10lb loss. All the walking on the honeymoon has inspired me to start walking again. (To keep these shapely legs I got!) So I'm really going to try to do that at lunchtime. I've cut down on my soda intake. It's always been diet of course, but nonetheless I've cut down to one every day/every other day. Trying to drink more water and if I want a sweet drink, ice tea with fake sugar as I call it. (Equal). Today my hunny packed me a sandwich for lunch. He said "no chips today for you" He's aware of what I'm trying to do.
Been thinking also of cutting down on my carb intake. I had good success with a modified Atkins diet when I first started out losing the 20lbs. I didn't cut them out completely but sure didn't gordge on the chips and potatoes. I don't know. It's really hard since he doesn't have to diet (although he thinks he does) and with my mom living with us, I don't want to cook 2 different things, or deprive them of the snacks and stuff in the house. I'll ponder on this a while more.

Anyway, good day to you all!!

06-02-2003, 09:11 AM
Mornin' all...

Well here's to a good June....Fresh start card please Kaylets!

Thought I'd better take a minute and hop in here...at least state some goals for July 4th...

1. Drink water...at least a litre a day...more is a bonus,
2. No junk food.
3. No eating after 7 pm.
4. Jump on the scale every day!
5. Start walking/gymming again.

Notice I did not state a lb goal...I'm planning just to let them roll off without expectations. That way I'm not setting myself up for a fall!



zadie k
06-02-2003, 12:36 PM
Good morning,
Wow, that weekend flew by. I had some work over the weekend, but even still it should have felt longer. I have been religiously keeping to my plan. It is actually becomming a lot easier, and I do not feel so strange breaking out the fat and calorie counter book that I bought. Even managed to go to a greesy food type street festival without breaking bown in front of the deep fried cheese curds and mini donuts. I have come to the realization that before I began counting I was probably eating at least 3000 calories a day. Mostly chocolate and fried food.

Well, next weekend I will put in my veggie garden. Why buy it when you can grow it.

Must get back to work.


06-02-2003, 02:11 PM
A wonderful Monday to you all, ladies.

Well, I did get my "every OTHER day" exercise in...yesterday I ran around with a friend's corgies in the park. Wonderful fun. they look like little sheep with pointy ears when they run in the grass.

I also stayed off fried food - I've noticed that it's so much easier to eliminate a food group, like meat and fried food. It's just easier for me to draw a specific line in the sand - no gray areas. While I don't recommend this approach to life in general, it's really wonderful to pick up a bag of my favorite chips and say "Uh uh. It's fried, honey." I grumble a bit, be assured, but it seems to be working. I read the label on my favorite, FAVORITE chips - I was hoping they'd be baked or steamed or something, since they're Japanese rice/seaweed thingys, but they said on the back of the bag that they fried them in oil and CENTRIFUGED them to eliminate excess fat. I was like "Oh-KAY. Still fried, though, right? I don't think so." Drat. Veggie booty is fried, I think, too. DRAT!!

I just do this because chips and fries are my downfall. I've often thought that I can't live without them. But you guys have been so wonderfully supportive, and you're all accomplishing what I'd like to accomplish. I know I can make it to July 4th with your help.

Thanks everyone for your lovely welcomes. I love reading about your lives.

I'm gonna make Friday my weigh-in day (inspiration for the weekend!), so I'll let you guys know then how I'm doing.


06-02-2003, 02:24 PM
One more thing: Today my 60-year-old Dad gets his second hip replacement. His long history of obesity has rendered him nearly immoble. Sometimes I fear that he has given up, but I hope the cessation of pain in his hips will spur him to new freedom and movement.

Watching him hobble around, I have an inkling (just an inkling!) of Anagram's struggle, and I pray, darling, that your bionics will stop giving you trouble. Let's all be good to our bodies and careful with our precious joints.

As I'm almost 30, my knees (poor babies) are beginning to tell me that they don't appreciate almost 100 pounds of excess weight. Losing it is how I'm going to honor them.

06-02-2003, 02:39 PM
Monday!?!? :dz: I want another weekend! I wuz robbed!

The walk went great. They had over 1,700 people there and almost 200 cancer survivors. They had all of us kneel down while the survivors (in their snazzy blue "Heaven Can Wait" hats) stayed standing - it was a breath-taking site. I almost cried... I got to meet my Mom' cancer case manager, who's an 11 year breast cancer survivor and an amazing woman. You know how there are just some people you feel you can talk to, cry with and be friends with immediately? That's her. She brought us over to the group of survivors who were getting their picture taken and the intro's started - then the hugs and back pats and hand holding. We both ended up in tears, the amount of love and support was incredible and as a main source of support for my Mom I don't feel so alone in this anymore. :cool:

On the other hand, it looks like I'm going to have to cancel my vacations for the rest of the year to hold down the fort. Mom's cancer is going to require chemo for sure now. I'm going to have to learn some serious relaxation techniques since I'm already frustrated and burnt out with work - and now I have to do it with no time off, and do part of my Mom's work too. *Breeeeeatheeeee* It'll be ok.... where in the **** is that light at the end of the tunnel?????? :faint:

WSW - Thank you, thank you, thank you for your PM. Sorry I didn't check it sooner... Your, and everyone's, support means so much to me!

Cerise - Welcome to another Oregonian! :wave: You're smart to get on the health bandwagon now! I turned 33 in January and really feel like this is a "now or never" for me. I hear it only gets harder the older you get. Glad you're here!

Wildfire - :eek: They listened to you????? Amazing.... congrats on the great evaluation. We knew you were good - but that they admitted it is...I don't know, I guess I'm speechless!

Eydie - LOL, ok how's this for seeing me in real life? I'll get a picture of me on the tractor like I'd mentioned last year - I'm about to get some work done on my land. Now if I could just find that tiara.... :chin:

Frogger - Wow, that's a lot of film! Take your time, we're not going anywhere.... I look forward to seeing them though!

Kaylets - Way to go on the NSV! :devil: cake... Don't forget though that Filbert is still around and available for anyone's picnic!
Funny that carrots did that to you! I ate so many carrots the 1st time I lost weight that my palms turned orange (no joke, even my Dr. was impressed) and I didn't have any problems. But, next time, remember that Beano!
Oh, and loved the Monday Memo - I'll be printing it and sending it to my mechanics! Muahahahahaha.... don't we have a dominatrix/slave driver smilie??

Where is our Empress?????? :shrug: :queen: :shrug:

My Bo-Beena!!!! :dance: Yes ladies, this is the girlfriend that I abandon you for when I go to California.... best friends for, what - 16 or 17 years now?? I've lost count... I'm so glad to see you here Bean, you're in for a treat with this bunch! :grouphug:

Q's o' the Day
~ Frivolous money - it's been a loooong time. Seems like all my money goes into my house, which is never a waste (hey, all that Partylite stuff is a *necessity* thankyouverymuch) :p
~ What advancement do I think we'll see in 5 years - honestly, I think we're going to see a TON of stuff come in about treating cancer and obesity better. They're *so* close with both of them!
~ Nutrition and cooking in school? Absolutely. If kids had a better handle on nutrition then maybe they wouldn't turn into us as adults.

Guess I should get some work done today.... blech.

06-02-2003, 02:45 PM
Good Morning, Sparkly Ones!

I'm back, with a plan! My plan is -- independence. I'm declaring independence from not only the addiction to food as abusable substance, but also my constant worrying about my appearance, and so on.

I lost about 60 pounds 15 years ago and then gained more than that back. The way I lost it was to eat healthy foods, and only when I was hungry, and to get plenty of exercise. There was a book that I read about it, but I can't remember the name. The other component is to behave as much as humanly possible as if I'm fine just as I am. So when thoughts about being fat enter my head, I just chase them right out again. It's amazing how much life opens up when you get rid of an obsession. So much mental and psychological space and energy to put towards, well... living!

So. This is Day 1 of my plan. Almost no sugar, white flour or processed foods. Aiming for 9 fruits and veggies a day, lots of water. For the psychological part, I'm reinitiating a little mental game I like to play. I'm going to pretend to be a model. It's fun!

Kaylets, I don't know if I read the same article (about fatigue and overweight) but I certainly have read about it. There was an article by some doctor that said he'd never seen a case of significant overweight where either depression or chronic fatigue was not involved. I know that so well myself. When I feel good physically, it's really not difficult. But the days when I'm exhausted are real trouble. One of my main problems is that when I'm tired, I don't even rest when I should. There's no reason, a lot of the time, that I couldn't just go back to bed for a bit when I'm tired, but I tend to plod along, without being really productive in any case. And, then, I just have food instead of rest. Not intentionally, of course, but there is a definite pattern. Time to break that one, give my body what it needs! Loved your speech, too!

Frogger, welcome back! Sounds like your wedding was great. But wasn't that cop a total creep --- sounds like he had a quota to fill. Or is just plain ornery!

Welcome, Cerise, Bo-Beena, Zadie! You're going to like it here.

Well, I had lots more to say to lots of you, Lovelies, but I really need to get some stuff done, so TTFN!

06-02-2003, 02:48 PM
Geez, I was so long winded I missed 3 posts!

Zadie, Esq. (I like it, I like it!) - I think it does get easier the longer you stay on track. I also think that eventually *this* will be our new habit and the eating like a loon will be the exception to the rule...

Cerise - My thoughts are with you and your Dad... I hope the surgery does give him that pain-free relief he needs to get moving!
My Dad was my inspiration too - he was diagnosed borderline diabetic a few months ago and it really opened my eyes to my bad habits. And now my Mom with breast cancer... Granted, neither of them "caused" their diseases, but I look at it like I'm going to do everything I can in my power to tip the odds in my favor - to be healthy for the rest of my life. If we don't treat our bodies right while we have the chance - we may loose that chance and be dealing with something more serious than just loosing weight!

More power to us!

(promising to shut up and go away now - I really should do some work! :dz: )

06-02-2003, 03:31 PM
Hello there all!
It is going to be a great week! Why? you ask because I want it to be;)

Sound like you all enjoyed your weekend. Mine was great, got in a lot of socializing and totally did fine on the food that was offered. My weigh in day is friday so I'll let you know how I am doing. Last fridays wgh in yielded a 2 lb loss :dance:

I have been working out at Curves 3-4 times weekly for a month now :strong: I started last September, did well for a couple of mouths then the holidays came and that was that. So 1 month ago I got my self a FRESH START card (before I even knew what it was:) ) and I have been doing great ever since. I realize I am still in the honeymoon phase and it is going to get harder to keep up this pace as time goes on. But I am going to enjoy it while I can and that is why I have you guys now, to celebrate the progress and help me along when it stops.:D

Wildfire, good job on the crunchy switch! I have been trying to do that also. Your bedroom is painted violet??? I don't know how long I could live with that. And yes I am a Partylite junkie! I just spent another $90. yesterday! But as Punkin says, it is a necessity!
Oops gotta run, time for work already. I'll post the rest tonight!

06-02-2003, 09:23 PM
hi all!

cerise- i hope your dad's surgery went well.

punkin-glad to hear the walk went great! sounds like it was a very powerful experience.

zadie-i am originally from minneapolis. haven't been back to mn for over 20 years now, but even after all this time, i still sometimes miss it.

kaylets-that mon. memo was so funny.

hi also to wildfire, eydie, arabella, frogger, bo-beena, and anyone else i have failed to mention here. i'm thinking of all of you!

the weather here has been so beautiful lately, today included. i have been enjoying every minute of it. normally by now, it is very hot and humid, so this cool and breezy weather is a delight. it's been nice to be able to walk outside as part of my exercise. i am writing down my food daily, which is proving helpful. well, need to get going, but wanted to catch up on your posts. have a good evening, all. take care, wsw.

06-03-2003, 07:37 AM
Hello all!

Finally feel like I've got a routine together-- clothes ready and waiting this am, DH out the door --almost on time-- even taken magnesium and and Omega 3 and 6 for the first time in weeks.
Am also excited that my stair climbing has advanced to where I can "jog" up now. ( If my arms are empty...)
Legs are beginning to feel tighter to the touch too-- Not showing yet but when I realized I was "jogging" up yesterday it was a beautiful thing.
Saw this quote on another thread this am and I like the Patton quote so much I am shelving the one I chose ! What a great visual! Superballs in different colors!
That's what we are! UNSTOPPABLE!!!

Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.
George S. Paton
Today's question is:
"When was the last time you acted silly?"

My best to everyone, I see important things happening to many of you.... I want to reply individually but will have to do it later.

Take care!

06-03-2003, 07:48 AM
Hope you enjoy this one- If you've seen it before, its just as good the 2nd time!!

Today...I wish you a day of ordinary miracles.

A fresh cup of coffee you didn't have to make yourself.

An unexpected phone call from an old friend.

I wish you a day of little things to rejoice in.

The fastest line at the grocery store.

A good sing along song ! on the radio.

Your keys right where you look.

I wish you a day of happiness and perfection, little bite-size pieces of perfection, that give you the funny feeling that the Lord is smiling on you, holding you so gently because you are someone special and rare.

I wish you a day of peace, happiness and joy.

Send this message to the people you'll never forget and remember to send it also to the person who sent it to you.

If you don 't send it to anyone, it means you're in too much of a hurry and that you've probably forgotten your friends.

Take the time!

Take care!

06-03-2003, 08:13 AM
Good Morning All!!!

Today on the way to work I stopped in at the grocery store and bought myself a 1/2 gallon of skim milk, a box of bran flakes (hey, I actually like them) and a box of raisins to make my own raisin bran (I hate all the sugar in the premade ones. All the raisins are coated!) Because yesterday I had a bagel and cream cheese and just about slapped myself when I realized this was not the way I wanted to go. And I have switched us back to whole wheat bread instead of the regular wheat. I noticed I feel fuller on whole wheat when I eat a sandwich. If I eat it on regular wheat, I want something else to go with it. Chips, or something. Whole wheat=no chips with the sammie.

Anyway, had to go and sign a gift letter for the house since the inlaws are paying our downpayment. Mortgage company said it was required. So it was a late night for us. I'm beat. Is it friday yet?

Q&A My hubby and I are silly all the time. But I see where you're going with this. Sometimes he wants to be silly (like in a store or the mall) and I'm just not in the mood and end up snapping at him to stop. I'll have to work on that and be sillier too.

Good day to you all!!! Hope you stay dry (it's supposed to rain here!)

06-03-2003, 09:50 AM
QOD I am silly a lot of the time...in a lot of peoples' opinion I think. My favourite silly times are when you laugh so hard that you cry....and you laugh for no reason....those are fun.

Got 1 day successfully under my belt...except for the exercise...am fighting a cold and since I have enough trouble breathing at rest I don't need to up any systems and breathe. Actually am going to call in sick today....

Punkin, I'm glad your walk went well, in so many ways!:)
WSW I'm glad you finally got some nice weather...we've got your rain :(:( . However, since the water table is so low that might be a good thing :) We did get one day of sun...yesterday but are back to overcast and 50% chance of rain...yuck. I'm getting mouldy. Kaylets, sent your ordinary miracles to a few people. It will brighten their day as it did mine.

Hi to Cerise, Zadie-K and Bo-Beena! Glad to meet cha! And of course our Haute Couture :queen: of the modelling world, Arabella! :wave: to all!


06-03-2003, 01:37 PM
Jesse Cook is coming to town!!! Jesse Cook is coming to town!!!

:dance: :dance: :dancer: :dancer: :cp: :cp: :hyper: :hyper:

Can't buy tickets until Monday. Sorry, just had to let that out because I can't dance, hop up and down, clap, and yell in the office. :D

Concert is July 16th!!!! Hey Kaylets, wanna go?

06-03-2003, 01:51 PM
Well, never made it back on yesterday. Work was not good and got home very late.

Well, just have to pat myself on the back. Yesterday, some evil-doer brought in 2 dozon crispy cream donuts!!! What were they thinking?? Everyone at work is trying to eat healthier, however, those donuts were gone by the end of the day. I did NOT eat one, not a little bite, not any! Now donuts are one of my greatest downfalls, so I am very proud of this. It was very hard not to eat one especially with the day I had yesterday. Part of what helped me was you guys, all of your non scale victories made me think I can do this. Food is no longer going to control me!! (repeat as necessary:) )
Arabella, love the "declaring independence" what a good way to put it.

Kaylets, loved the Monday memo as well as ordinary miracles.
QOD- I am silly a lot. I agree giggling so much you cry when no remembers what started it, yeah that is great :lol:

So far this week, right on target, water, excercise and vitamins!

Hope everyone has a great day!


06-03-2003, 04:12 PM
Ladies, you brighten up my day so much! I'm gonna write something properly later, but I just wanted you to know how happy I am to have found you.


06-03-2003, 08:24 PM
Hello all!

Just stopping by for a minute while the iron warms up--
Mornings are so much easier when I know what I'm wearing and its ready to be put on.
Forecast was for rain so I grabbed a blazer I 've worn zillions of times w/ a navy 2pc dress. What I realized today was that -- I could button it !
Last fall, it fit across the shoulders but I had to leave it open. Today, I wore it buttoned and boy oh boy did people notice. Maybe because I generally don't wear skirts or maybe w/ the blazer closed, my shape was more defined-- I dunno- but it was great on a grey rainy morning!!

and doesnt it just go figure?? I finally hand in my info and key deposit and the Fitness center at my job is going to be closed for two weeks -- new carpeting, etc, etc. Hee hee--

Cerise- We think you're pretty special too! How's your dad doing?

Punkin- the walk sounds amazing- I bet you Mom is still flying from the support of the survivors. I wish I could have been there.

Bo Beena-- I CAN RELATE-- The Krispy Kremes are very hard to stay away from-- GOOD FOR YOU! and the bonus is that tomorrow, you won't have sugar cravings waking you up screaming "MORE !!"

Wildfire-- sounds like fun but I won't be able to get there--
I expect you to give us all the details!! Is he playing alone??
Is it a night concert??

Ceara- How goes it? Sorry to hear about your cold.

Arabella- is month end nearly done?

wsw- The rain has begun again here, your way too?

Anagram- My money is that its raining your way too. Did get some weeding done yesterday --Don't know if I'm ever going to get the lettuce seeds in with all the rain. The seeds will just wash away.

Time to iron.

Take care all!

06-03-2003, 09:22 PM
Whaddaya mean it's only Tuesday? Hrmph.

Kaylets, where did you find our Company Policies memo? Yep, that's where I work. Way to go on jogging those stairs! I had an ordinary miracle today, right after I read your post. "An unexpected phone call from an old friend. " Well, it wasn't a phone call, but an online message from a friend I'd lost touch with over the last year and a half. Just out of the blue!

Frogger, how sweet of hubby to pack your lunch, sans chips! Wow, what a nice gift from the in-laws! Don't suppose they're looking to adopt? Congrats on making those changes to higher fibre...every little bit counts!

Ceara, nice to have you back on board! Has your shoulder fully recovered from the puppy whiplash?

Bo Beena, you donut-dodging firecracker, you! :bravo: Yes, you read correctly...my bedroom is deep violet. It was a little too cave-like when I moved in, so I did some ragging in lavendar on the top half, and put a border up mid-way up the wall. So now the screaming is contained to the lower half of the walls. It would have cost me a fortune to paint over it, and we only plan to be here for another 2 years, so I'm living with it. I had to buy new bedding to match, but bought it cheap! I'm more of an earthy-color gal, and I'm getting the itch to paint over it....but hubby would likely kill me!

Cerise, how is your Dad doing after the surgery? How was your day in the Land of No Fried Food? Hey, we're glad you found us, too! :grouphug:

Zadie, how are you doing?

Punkin, it must have been incredible to see all the survivors standing at the walk. The image of them wearing those hats saying "Heaven Can Wait"....*sniff*...gosh, I would have been a wet heap! As for the evaluation, it was the first time we've had written evals, so usually any concerns we have would stop at my boss....he would never do anything about them. This time, they are in writing and submitted to the CFO....my boss's boss. Who knows if they'll actually do anything, but at least I'm being heard.

:wave: to Arabella (glad you're back, too!), wsw, anagram, et all. And where is our Empress?

Gotta go do lunch/clothes for tomorrow.

06-03-2003, 11:13 PM
All right, people. I am dedicated. Has anyone done this? I just wrote down everyones' names and a few things I've learned about them, like, uhhh "Kaylets - compay policies memo, small miracles (loved that, BTW)". Or "Anagram - bionic knees, really sweet, dry sense of humor". Stuff like that. Flattery will get me nowhere, I know.

You guys helped me so much today. Have successfully sworn off fried foods so far - yes, only 5 days into it. I've also walked every other day. I didn't want to today, but thought "we're all trying to make it to July 4", and then I HAD to! Such a beautiful evening, and I confess that I stopped about 3 times to sniff roses kind people planted in their front yards. My heart rate's not more important than my cherished nose...

Heart rate. Hah. I'm so wussy from a year "off" that I can't even get a good huff-and-puff going yet. If I walked THAT fast, my calves would shut down and my lower back HURTS. It's 'cause my belly's gotten so big, I think. Blew out my abs and lower back. Ramon (the gorgeous husband I wish I could clone for my beloved single friends) believes that I should just get out there and let my muscles get used to hauling my big butt (NOT his words) around again. He thinks the aerobic stuff will come later. Do you concur, doctors?

Anyway, Daddie-dear's chipper, driving the nurses crazy and already in less pain than he was. Turns out the knee and hip degeneration is genetic. OH, GREAT. Thanks for your thoughts and kind words, kidlets.

Punkinseed, your description of the walk for your Mom got me pretty emotional. I was at work and let out a big "Oh, how WONDERFUL!!" and my boss said "tell me." Erp! I'm posting at home from now on.

Sayonara, O Lights Of My Life...:wave:

06-04-2003, 07:36 AM
isnt it true- how the smallest thing can take you "off schedule"-- 45 minutes ago, I was ahead of schedule, and b/4 you know it, I'm now almost behind.
Part of it was that DH was missing his watch and decided he needed to find it b/4 he went to work even though he was running 10 minutes late--

here's the chuckle- when I asked how long he's been missing the watch, he said a couple days--
Yes, I know, why didnt we look last night??
Today's thought of the day is:
Happiness is to be found along the way, not at the end of the road, for
then the journey is over and it is too late. Today, this hour, this
minute is the day, the hour, the minute for each of us to sense the fact
that life is good, with all of its trials and troubles, and perhaps more
interesting because of them."
Robert R. Updegraff
Author of "Be Thankful For Your Troubles"
Before making a phone call, do you ever rehearse what you have to say?"
from The Book of Questions

Frogger and Zaida and everyone else I missed last night--
How's Wednesday coming along?/

Take care all!

06-04-2003, 07:40 AM
'Live Now / Die Later'

-tattoo on Carmelo Anthony's right bicep
All-American Basketball Player
(2003 National Champion Syracuse Orangemen)

You know them instantly when you meet them.

You want to be their near them.

You want to be like them.

You know the type...

Always smiling. Hard worker. Optimistic. Assured.

And they win... a lot.

Carmelo Anthony, only 18 years old, is that person.

This past April, as a freshman, he led our hometown
Syracuse Orangemen to the NCAA men's national basketball

He routinely did the impossible.

Showing skills reserved only for those 'touched by the
hand of God'.

All with a smile that lit up the entire Carrier Dome.

He made us all forget about the whipping winds and the 14+
feet of snow we were hammered with this winter. It didn't

Because we got to witness someone special.

Sure, he has natural skills, but it's a LOT more than that.

He works like no one else.

He's as coachable as they come...

He listens closely, learns from every mistake, practices
every day like he's playing for the NBA title.

And he's only eighteen.

Most people want to believe this kind of talent gets
inserted at birth.

Most want to believe that they just don't have it.

It absolves them from responsibilities for their failures.

And it's true that few people are born with the physical
ability to play sports at the highest levels or the ability
to tolerate the kind of stress endured by presidents of
huge corporations.

But what most people forget is that to become great at
anything, you've got to get single minded.

If you want greatness, or heck, forget about greatness for
a minute...

If you want to get past this next challenge, to succeed at
getting rid of the habit that has you by the throat...

...then work on that one thing only. Sure, fulfill your
daily responsibilities.

But when it comes to reaching this one top goal, make it
absolutely, positively a must. Look at this goal like it's
the most important thing in your life.

If you do this, I guarantee you of one thing...

...that if you DON'T make it all the way, you'll most
certainly come closer than you ever have before.

And in the process of the reaching and the straining,
you'll be growing.

Becoming more capable.

Becoming the person who other people want to be like.

Because even if you reach your big goal, it's possible to
lose it all in the future, to go back to your old ways.


But if you put all of yourself, and I mean ALL of yourself
into your reaching, learning everything you can along the
way, then not only will you most likely succeed now, but
you'll be able to do more in the future.

How do you think highly skilled people in any field got so
good? Were they born with all that knowledge and skills?

Give me a break!

It's called work. I know that's a dirty word to most
people... and I do mean MOST people. But if you want to get
to that place and be that person you imagine when you close
your eyes, then honest effort is the only way.

But don't be so glum...

Carmelo Anthony wasn't even considered an elite college
recruit as a high school junior. No. But during his senior
year, he blew up... working like a maniac, that year
building massively on the skills he already had developed
through intensely practicing the same things day in-day out.

And because of it, he just barely passed his college
entrance exams.

And those people who love to look down on those with
lesser vocabularies, grades or looks... those things are

But you don't have to know everything to reach your goals
and to be successful in this life of yours. You can't be
all things. It's impossible.

You just have to do what you must to get where you want to

If your goals aren't huge now, that's fine. Reach the
small ones. Build your confidence. And go from there.

The tallest buildings start with many sub-floors under the

So, if that's where you are starting from, know that you
can still get where you want to go... one step at a time.

The time for living is now.

So what are you going to do?

----- Mike Brescia- Life's Laser Lessons--

06-04-2003, 08:40 AM
Hmmm. Hump Day.

Is still dark and overcast....wonder if the sun is being held hostage :^: ? Anyway another day OP under my belt...which is looser by the way. Drowning oneself in water (drinking) seems to move stuff. Or maybe it is the aerobic activity from running to the bathroom?!? Still no organized exercise...I'm workin' up it!

My shoulder is very good thank you Wildfire. The chiro feels she only needs to torture me every two weeks now. Actually she is still stretching that little muscle under the arm pit and slightly to the back...that is where the BIG owy was. Tricep is good. Still am cautious about using that arm to walk the heathen though.

Anyway, have another fun filled day coming up....stayed home sick yesterday and still feel yucky....can't decide if it a cold or seasonal allergies and am afraid to take anything 'cause what I took last Sunday knocked me out for the day!!!!! Cheap drugs:)

So, good morning to all! Have a great OP day, and congrats on all the NSV's we have...lots of water, no fried foods or crispy cremes...(thank goodness I cannot stand the smell of those), exercise goals etc. :bravo:

Kudos :cp:


06-04-2003, 11:30 AM
Hey all!!

Been busy today trying to change my name. It's very hard when your at work and trying to work and do other things as well. Still have to contact benefits at work and my auto insurance. AND still go to the DMV sometime.

So all you experienced chickies with buying a house, you're supposed to change your dependent claims? My inlaws told us that the other day. Change it to what? Maybe I should go to a tax person after we close. Whenever that is....

Been good so far today. Have eaten my bran flakes and raisins but I have terrible heartburn from the skim milk. Dairy does that to me.

It's overcast and drizzly here. I wish it would stop raining! I'm so sleepy and sunlight depressed. I want it to be warm!

:grouphug: Ceara, Kaylets, Cerise, Wildfire, Bo-Beena, wsw and everyone else I forgot. Have a good humpity hump day!

06-04-2003, 01:08 PM
Week half over Wednesday! :cb:

I came to work this morning and my Mom's hair was shocking RED! :hot: :flame: :eek: (she's a light, light brown normally) I almost laughed, but didn't - she's in this mode of trying new things that she normally wouldn't - kinda like a taking life by the throat kind of attitude ("hey, I've never been a redhead, what the ****..."). Her sentinal node surgery is next Tuesday - from that we'll find out if the cancer ever spread past her breast. :crossed: for nothing but GREAT news and clear nodes!

My Dad's coming up from Arizona tomarrow for a speedy visit. He should be in Sacramento right now, then driving to Oregon tomarrow. He's bringing me some loot from Mexico I wanted the last time I was there but couldn't get into an airplane (5 foot chiminea and a huge porcelain/wrought iron sun). So basically it's a quick visit and a delivery (and I think he wants to make sure I'm ok). I'm going to take him to dinner whether he accepts it or not - why can't parents let their adult children treat them????

...Has anyone got Amarantha's old email addy? I tried to email her to find out if she was ok since she's gone AWOL from both threads and her email bounced... please PM me if you've got it!

Kaylets - :bravo: on buttoning up! That's so awesome! Next thing you know people will notice that you need a smaller size blazer! Of course, we can take care of that - shopping field trip anyone???

Wildfire - I'm excited for you! But who's Jesse Cook? :shrug: I feel so outta da loop.

Bo-Beena - You awesome gurl you! No to Krispy Kremes???? :cb:
Since you introduced me to them I consider myself the lucky one of this bunch since I have no KK store within a 3 hour drive!

Cerise - You're so organized! I don't have notes on us, but I do *take* notes while I'm reading everyone's posts so I know what I want to say... As for the exercise, your awesome hubby is right I think. I went from 5-6 Jazzercise classes a week and 145 pounds to ZERO exercise and 250 pounds (gasp) - getting myself back to where I'm not sucking wind by simply putting on my walking shoes took time, but your body WILL remember! :yes:
Good to hear Dad's doing so well too!
Oh, and I have to post while I'm at work (home computer's being held hostage by tech friend who's sloooow, but free). I work with my Mom, so a lot of times I end up having to read her what I'm laughing or gasping at! :lol:

Frogger - Hmmmm....:chin: I have no idea what they're talking about in having to change your dependants. If you claim more, they take out less taxes from your paycheck, which could look good to the finance company - but they look at your gross anyway, not your net (after tax) income. I'd also be a bit leary too because the tax benefits in buying a house aren't all that great the first year unless you buy in the beginning of the year. I bought in October 2001, and that year's taxes, well, sucked compared to 2002 that had a whole year of home ownership. I bought my house by myself and I didn't have to alter any of my paycheck stuff and I don't make *that* much money. Hopefully they can clarify what they meant?

Q o' the day - Rehearse phone calls? Only if it's an important one. Breaking bad news, dealing with important issues, phone calls you don't want to make, etc. I run those through my head a couple times. But in day to day work/life? No. I make literally 50-100 phone calls a day - I don't have *time* to rehearse! What I say is what they get! :lol:

Guess I should get some work done??

T :wave:

zadie k
06-04-2003, 01:19 PM
still here are have not fallen off of the planet (or the wagon) yet. Keeping to my plan and doing well. However, work is chaos so I have not had much time to look at the board. I hope eberyone is doing well.

06-05-2003, 07:48 AM
Weatherman says we should have dry weather by noon today- A month of rain!
Hello all!
Today's thought is:
"A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances,
but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes."

Hugh Downs
Veteran Journalist

Question of the day :

"If 100 people your age were chosen at random, how many do you think you'd find leading a more satisfying life than yours?"-- The Book of Questions

Take care all!

06-05-2003, 07:51 AM
Hmmm...still cloudy and rainy and foggy...no ransom note yet.

A slightly less busy day today...hopefully I might find a little "me" time.

Yesterday was OK programme wise....had lunch out...Lasagna and salad, 1/2 glass white wine and dessert...however due to time constraints, supper was an apple...so...I know I need more veggies...just no time to chew! :D However the scale is progressing, as are the clothes.

Anyway, am off again to do something...maybe drink my coffee and read a chapter in my book?

Good for your Mom Punkin...red is good.

I miss the QOD!

Seize the day ladies! :)


06-05-2003, 07:54 AM
Great minds and fools Kaylets!

I think what I find satisfying would be most unsatisfactory to someone else. Also I think what we see of people's lives or perceive of them, may not actually be what they are. I think we have to make our own satisfaction, so I say NONE!


06-05-2003, 08:49 AM
I am on Day 4 of my voyage to Independence. It's already been really positive, although some of these feelings that I've been avoiding (stuffing them way way down with food) are not comfortable. I had one day where I was just beside myself, wasn't sure if I was not altogether mad. Then I reminded myself that uncomfortable feelings and my drive to avoid them were what got me into this mess in the first place. Was very stressed out one day, after DH complained to me for an extended period about DS (his step-son, really, and they've never had a great relationship). So I was really upset about it for a day, but eventually came to the conclusion that DS needs to be more independent and DH needs to loosen up. And since I've been enabling DS's lack of real independence as well as DH's rigidity (by avoidance, not speaking my mind, tiptoeing, etc.) I shall endeavor to help by stopping the enabling. Wish me luck, and send me strength, pls!

Cerise, I can really relate to your situation with your dad. My mom has gotten less and less active, is about 100 pounds overweight (at about 4' 10) and doesn't have the strength to walk to the corner. I'm not very good at accepting that she is responsible for her own health, and it just drives me crazy to see her getting increasingly incapacitated because she doesn't look after herself. I don't know if I SHOULD just give up. I feel like I should be making sure she gets some exercise. Sigh.

As for the genetic component to your dad's problems, exercise is fabulous for helping to keep these things at bay!

Kaylets, I actually finished up with May work on Sunday, which was not too too bad in comparison to recent months. I am determined to stay on the ball this month and get my work done ahead of the dreaded EOM.

Re: QOD -- I feel like I would be somewhere in the middle of the pack, maybe slightly lower. However, I am working to get my groove back :D because I know I can be a lot happier than I have been lately. Hmmm..... reminds me of today's quote!

Wildfire, I would LOVE to go see Jesse Cook! If only the teleporter were working.... I'm very fond of JC's music. Really gets the heartrate up!

:queen: Punkin, any news of our beloved Empress? Can't help but worry a little bit when one of us goes AWOL. Although Amarantha does from time to time need a break from the site.

To all Firecrackers, mentioned or unmentioned, let's make this a fabulous day! Love to all!

06-05-2003, 11:43 AM
Happy Friday eve everyone!

No, still no word from our Empress. She does go AWOL from time to time, true, but normally doesn't she give us warning? I'm a bit concerned, but hoping it's just another 'puter malfunction...
Ceara, thanks for the other email addy - I'll give it a shot too.

Zadie, thanks for checking in even when you're swamped. As you can tell, we worry when people just disappear! ;)

Arabella, oh, you're into the hard stuff... figuring out why we eat like we do. Why we feel the need to medicate ourselves this way. It sounds like you're really doing a great job of looking deep at things though - hopefully all the work will result in DS and DH having a closer relationship someday - and you'll have a clearer understanding of yourself too! I wish you luck, but the strength you already have! :yes:

Kaylets, I wish you some :flow2: and an end to the :rain:. It's been in the 80's here for 3 days and it feels SO GOOD! Nothing like this kind of weather to banish any and all blahs. Not to mention the oodles of potted pitunias, marigolds, lobilias and snapdragons that are blooming all over my decks.... ahhhh, spring! :flow1:

Q o' the day - I'm going to go with Ceara's philosophical sense and agree - it's all relative. What's satisfying to me may not be to someone else. Right now, I'm leading a very satisfying life - one that I could only imagine or dream about a few years ago. But that's because of my personal past experiences. Someone who's had a different past, in my current position may be miserable (but I doubt it!).

Doing great eating wise. Still working on getting in all my water. My "gift" to me for drinking all that water is a diet vanilla Coke :T but I'm keeping it to 2 a week.
I have to admit I snuck on the scale today too to find that I'm heading for the 220's at warp speed and am currently only 3 pounds from my lowest weight in years! :cb:

Onward and downward firecrackers!


zadie k
06-05-2003, 11:49 AM
A moment of peace in the storm. Plus I just realized that I have a yogurt here (at work). It is a nice slow day becuasse everyone is out of the office (except me). I thought yesterday that they were finally going to make a decision as to my long term employment, but if they did they did not tell me. Made me very stressful, but I had celery so I could stress eat healthily!

QOD - I think that generally I am happier than a lot of people. Above average happy. Now, if you had asked me when I was a teenager...

Hang in there! BEE +


06-05-2003, 01:30 PM
Punkin, it's soooo interesting the way this is happening. It's a little bit backwards -- rather than working on the deep issues in the hopes of that effecting weight loss, I'm giving up the obsession. Which, oddly, is almost just like flipping a switch. I have to remind myself from time to time what I'm doing, but it feels great, just like a huge burden has been lifted from me. And then the deep issues have no choice but to surface, since they don't have all that chocolate and peanut butter holding them down :o

And thank you so much for your kind words -- almost brought a tear to my eye! I know I have the strength, but I haven't been using it, but taking the "path of least resistance." So now I intend to use my power -- only for Good of course ;)

Speaking of which, WOW!!! Are you ever flying! 3 pounds from your lowest weight in years -- you're going to be at goal before you know it!! :cb: :cb:

06-05-2003, 01:33 PM
Hi To all Firecrackers!

Hello Kaylets, Ceara, Arabella, Punkinseed, Zadie, and all others! Hope your day is going well so far. Kaylets, hope that sunshine returns soon. Punkin-good for your Mom for doing something wild and fun for herself by coloring her hair! That is great that you are currently only 3 pounds from your lowest weight in years!!!

It is finally getting hot here now, but I am so grateful for the mild weather reprieve we have had up until now.
I weighed today and lost 3 lbs. this past week. I usually don't lose that much in a week, since I lose so slowly, but I think I had been holding more water than usual in the previous week. I have been doing better with the water too, so that may have something to do with it. I'll take it--whatever it is, as long as it's going in the right direction. Have remained op and glad about that. Well, enjoyed reading all your posts and checking in on everyone. Hope your afternoon and evening are pleasant. Take care, all.


06-06-2003, 01:20 AM
Computer and I not speaking to each other the last day or so. I had much to catch up on.

Punkin, love Mom's red hair, feel like emulating. Your deck sounds loverly and relaxing. Hope you and Dad have a nice visit.

Kaylets, congrats on blazer NSV. And we did have sun today!

Bo Beena, congrats on KK NSV. I love the little demons but am not sure at this stage of journey if they'd taste as good to me as they once did. Zadie, congrats on doing well in chaos, a definite enemy to weight loss.

Hope Dad continues to do well, Cerise, and thanks for the kind words. Wood Nymph, giving up enabling is so tough. Things I used to think of as "supportive" I can now see were sometimes just a fine line away from enabling and I also really feared "rocking the boat". Now I don't like anyone rocking MY boat.

Congrats, wsw, on 3 lbs down. Ceara, hope your cold/allergy is better. Frogger when do you move?

Overall, my life is pretty satisfying but I'm sure there are some above, lots below me on the scale. A little less so in recent months but on a lifetime basis, pretty good. I am definitely NOT silly enough lately. Silly is so good for one.

I had strung together four good OP days in a row but today was a washout. Not a total one though and tomorrow's another fresh start.

Recall a post in which Empress said something like she may need to drop out for a while. It was 5-24 on old thread but she did post once after that. I thought she just meant on this thread not the bootcamp one. Hope it's by her choice rather than from a problem.

Boom on, fellow firecrackers.

06-06-2003, 07:38 AM
Hello all!

Today makes the 5th day running late in a row-- !

I've heard from the Empress and she is ok. I am hoping she'll have a chance to stop by and say hello. I've told her how we've been missing her and she's asked me to tell everyone "Yo!".

Thought of the day:
" When we die and go to meet our maker, we're only going to be asked one thing.... Why didn't you become you? Why didn't you become ALL that you are?"--- Souls on Fire by Ellie Weisel


Question of the day:
What was your most enjoyable dream? Your worst nightmare?
-- The Book of Questions--

Take care !

06-06-2003, 07:39 AM
Here's a story about doing your best...

In our back yard, about 15 feet from the house is a large,
gorgeous maple tree

In the summer, it's home to a number of birds.

Last year, at the end of a long branch, which extends to
within 7 feet of our upstairs bathroom window, some robins
built a nest, where they lived all summer until the weather
got too cold.

Both our cats just lay in the windowsill for hours all
summer watching the birds come and go less than 7 feet from
their window perch.

Now keep in mind that this winter was absolutely brutal.

14 feet of snow. Wind that blew like none that I can ever
recall. Never as often and as hard as this year, it seemed.
It was just miserable from mid October until April.

Yet this bird's nest, sitting on a long branch wide open
to the chilling, hammering winds and cold that snaps
electrical wires like tooth picks, stayed right there.

Every day, I'd look out at this nest and there it was,
gripping that branch...

And I've got to believe that the robins that built the
nest were no smarter or more skilled in nest building than
any of the robins in my neighbors trees.

They simply didn't want their home to fall apart no matter
what. So they build it to withstand the worst possible

No short cuts.

No excuses.

Tell me, what if you were to take every little task you do
today, and do your absolute best?

What if you were to mow the lawn as good as you could today?

What if you gave your all to every customer or prospective

How much more effort would it take to be the best husband,
wife or significant other than you normally put in?

What would it really take to avoid eating beyond being
comfortably full?

To finish you homework and then go for another 30 minutes
for good measure?

You know, the difference between failure, moderate
success, an OK marriage, an undistinguished career and a
raging success in any one of those areas is usually

It's not that much more work.

Often it's hardly any real effort at all.

Every single day I get emails from people who have given
up hope of ever being really happy and satisfied in life.

'I'm beyond help.' 'I'm happy that your doing this work
for other people... Too bad it can't help me.'

They read the emails. They may even buy the tapes, and
either don't listen to them as prescribed, or when changes
do begin either with positive progress or with negative
tension created by the rapid changes happening, they quit
because the change is uncomfortable at first.

'Whoa! That's not me! Who am I kidding? Better slow down.'

The bottom line is, change is always wanted on some level
but hardly ever completely enjoyable at first.

If there is one thing that you MUST beat into your head
every day like a mantra is that success at anything is

It's so simple!

It's just a matter of repetition of little thoughts and
little actions.

For example, to allow yourself to do shoddy work once and
then again is to create momentum. A third time is like an

Hard to stop it. The fourth time is virtually guaranteed.

When the brownies or chips and soda make it into the
shopping cart every week, that's it.

Run past that aisle. Achieve a little success. Get a
little momentum going the other way.

When the sitcom wins out consistently over the homework or
baseball practice in the back yard, then you are creating a
rotten habit, which develops a character.

Done long enough, and that becomes who you are...

But .... that with just a little effort we can change
those things by making only slight direction changes.

The nest in my back yard is now housing a new family of
robins who didn't have to do a thing. They just moved in.
All the work was done already. They just hung a few
pictures, threw out a 'Welcome' mat and called it home.

And once you change the momentum of any downward slide you
may be in, it's deceptively simple to stop the slide, make
a few right decisions and your entire destiny can change.

If I was to get in my Expedition right now and drive due
west for just four days, I'd be in North Bend, Oregon.

But if I was pointing only about 5 degrees to the south,
in the same four days I'd end up in Los Angeles,
California... about 960 miles away.

Now hold you thumb and fore finger about an eighth of an
inch apart.

Go ahead. Do it.

You see, most of the time the difference between horrible,
devastating failure and massive, glorious success is only
that far apart.

In the next four days, will you have chosen to stay on

Keep reminding yourself of how important each hour and
each decision is. Do that every hour today, and I
guarantee that no matter what doesn't go right, you won't
be too terribly bothered by it.

Isn't THAT the direction you wanted to go in today?

Life Laser Lessons- Mike Brescia

Here's to a great Friday!

06-06-2003, 08:24 AM
Someone must have paid the ransom!

It is gorgeous outside!

Will be gone 'til Sunday....have a dog show in My Pleasant tomorrow, and I have to get ready still :( . However I will be staying with a friend tonight so that will be very nice.

Hoping that life will settle down after Monday...yuck so many things to do up to that point. However have maintained my equilibrium and stayed OP. Still no exercise..formal...but lots of running around. :) Everything else is good although the not eating after 7 is getting tough...just went to bed last night...what a coping mechanism eh?

:cp: wsw and Punkin! Defeat the :devil: scale! And Arabella, the enabling people are difficult I agree...sometimes the hardest part is recognising them...and hoping they really don't mean to. Good to see you Anagram....you ol' blue eyes, you! :wave: Zadie K, Bo Beena, Wildfire, Mrs Frogger....are you changing your screen name too?, Cerise et al....I expect the Empress is fading away on her new programme!

Ta Rah! :twirly:


06-06-2003, 08:45 AM
Good morning, all you best and brightest of sparklers!

I love sparklers - when DS and his cousin were small we used to light sparklers in the dark at the shore and make patterns in the air or traipse around the yard in a sparkler procession. Soon, we'll be doing those things with DGS. Oh, I loved having small kids, taking them for walks in the woods and on the shore. All the magic!

I'm still doing well on my trip to independence. Not having much trouble at all. Funny, though. When an uncomfortable feeling surfaces, along with whatever it's actually about I get a sort-of-sinking feeling, sort of like hopelessness. I think that's the point where I try to "eat it away." I think part of the feeling is a "doomed to be fat" thing. Like I give up at that point and decide feeling things is just too difficult. This morning I had that feeling and thought to myself, "You don't have to give up. You just have to feel this, and it will last a bit and then it will go away. And you may have learned something important."

It's really helping a lot to be able to express this too, helps me work these things out. Thanks for listening!

wsw, WTG!!!!! 3 pounds is fantastic! :D My body does that too, holds on to weight and then when it finally decides to release it, sometimes it's in a nice, solid chunk! Congrats!

Anagram, you're so right about enabling -- it's really hard to be objective about our behavior. And I think that we're brought up to be helpful, too, so that we're inclined to help people do things that it would be better for them to take care of themselves. I am definitely guilty there.
Striving onward, tho! :dancer:

Kaylets, thanks again for all the inspiration. So many good things to think about! I love the TOD today, intend to meditate on "becoming my self" through the day. Such a better thing to think about than "what will I eat next," "I can't lose this weight," "I look so fat," etc.

QOD: My nicest dream was one in which I was swimming over the top of a body of water, with a small girl by the hand. Through the water we could see large flowers made from glowing jewels at the bottom.

My worst nightmare was one in which my son had been sentenced to death and my husband and I were walking him up stairs to be hanged. We were both supporting him and ensuring that he did it, as our duty. It was for some reason necessary, but it was the worst feeling I've ever had in my life.

On that bright note -- hey! Things could be worse! Let's get out there and make this a good one! Love to all, mentioned or unmentioned...

06-06-2003, 11:56 AM
Happy Friday!!!!! :cb:

I had a great visit with my Dad. The chiminea and wrought iron sun are *exactly* what I wanted - and then he brought me "presents". I have a HUGE green frog and turtle, also from Mexico ("huge" meaning they're both over a foot across). Both have been airbrushed, sealed and look real - except the frog, I'd be afraid of a frog that big! They're SO cute, and totally remind me of my Dad's whacky personality. Oh, and he let me buy him dinner (pizza) but wouldn't take money for my stuff... :dz: Parents....

Arabella - :chin: Hmmmm... that is an interesting way of approaching things - just letting go of them. I like that! I never really thought of it, but I guess obsessing over something does give it a lot of power.

WSW - :cb: Congrats on the loss! I do think water is hugely underrated!

Kaylets - Good, glad you heard from the Empress - I was getting worried. I really liked your story too. The line "The bottom line is, change is always wanted on some level but hardly ever completely enjoyable at first" really struck a chord with me. I hate change, but I've never changed something in my life and ended up UNhappier than I was before the change - that should say something.

Ceara - Have fun at the dog show! I'd love to go to one one of these days!

Q o' the day -
~We'll do nightmare first - it would either be a tie between all the dreams after my separation where I'd be screaming at my ex and his Mom and wake up out of breath or the dream I had just last week. The dream wasn't so bad as waking up and realizing part of it was true. I dreamed my Mom was in a car crash and survived - but they found out she had breast cancer while she was being x-rayed for injuries. I've come to grips with Mom's diagnosis, but apparently my brain is still sorting through all this! :rolleyes:
~Best ever dream... I had 2 dreams, one after each Grandmother passed. My "gramma" told me she was gone, but never really gone - so I *know* she's always around. My "gaggie" told me (in her usual take no prisoners tough Southern woman tone) "if you need anything you just ask, I mean it".
Or, I can think of a few other dreams, involving Billy Zane or David Duchovney, etc. that are well worth re-dreaming! :devil:

Time to skeedaddle and get some work done!


06-06-2003, 12:17 PM
Hello All!!

Anagram-we had to change mortgage companies because they wanted to change our closing date AGAIN. This would make 4 times. But we are getting a better rate 5.125% instead of 5.5% YEAH! So who knows when we'll move.

Ceara-nope, won't be changing my screename. Just getting used to typing the Mrs. part of my new name!!

Bad dream first: This was back when I was about 5 or 6. I once dreamed I was walking through the woods in the back of our house (we didn't have any woods around our house) and someone shot me in the back and locked me in a cage only enough room to lay on my stomach, outside for days. (Still bleeding and all) I could see my house and backyard through the trees and no one could see or hear me. Very vivid and weird for a little kid to be dreaming this. I woke up and felt like I had been caged, very achy and my back hurt where they shot me.
To be honest, I hardly ever have good dreams. Most of the time I can't even remember what I dream.

I have to go! Work is becconing!

06-06-2003, 02:02 PM
hi all! just a quick note to wish you all a pleasant weekend. thinking of you. take care, all.

06-06-2003, 02:09 PM
Oh, my Lordy, firecrackers, it's been so beautiful this week in Sunny Eugene Oregon!:flow2: Wishing seriously wonderful weather on you all! I mean this, since I experience the whole Seasonal Affective Disorder thing pretty seriously. I feel like a layer of gummy...stuff is being peeled away from my brain and senses every sunny day.

So, I'm exercising (1/2 hour of fast walking) every other day - yesterday was my day and again, only the thought of reporting dead failure to y'all got my butt off the couch in 90-degree weather. The chumps who manage my apartment closed the pool yesterday. Hey, though, I have 90-degree weather and an apartment pool, so WHO'S COMPLAINING???:D

I did indeed dedicate my walk yesterday to Zadie, and had this song from "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" (movie about cross-dressing rocker) running through my head just for you, darlin'.

"...and you're shining like the brightest star, a transmission on the midnight radio. And you're spinning like a 45' ballerina, dancing to your rock and roll!"

Next walk's for Punkinseed's mom. Let me know if you don't want me to think about men in women's clothing on stage while I'm walking for her...:lol: Punkin, I am picturing your flowers in my mind, sun-drenched and nodding in a warm breeze. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Frogger, I dream at least 2 dreams a night that I can remember vivdly for the rest of the day. Next time I get a good one, I'm sending it your way. I always find that the "sleepier" I am in waking life (like in the winter), the less vivdly I dream. As soon as the sun comes out and I start feeling alive again, my dreams come back. I treasure them.

Oh, Ceara, I wish I could watch your dog show. Do you show your own dogs, and what sort are they? The only thing I know about shows is from that wonderful movie, "Best in Show".

Arabella, I think the only thing we can do for our parents is to pursue healthy living for ourselves and hope they get jealous enough of our subsequent joy to do it themselves. I'm learning that it's a rare thing that you can talk anybody into anything. Good for you, working through (or letting go, I should say) of stuff that troubles you so. You WILL get your groove back.

WSW, I hear you on losing weight slowly. I'm both comforted and exasperated as I learn how much time and failure and struggle it takes to get fit and healthy. Exasperated because it's so bloody LONG and HARD, and comforted because I feel compassion for myself and others going through such a difficult process. :faint:

Anagram, gently tap the top of your computer with a really, really big mallet. I think it will get the picture. Or practice your swing with a baseball bat right in front of the monitor. Subtle hints.

OK, girls. I didn't hurt as much at all on my walk yesterday. My body's already forgiving me for gross neglect. Today's my first weigh-in for at least a year (besides the one a month ago at the Dr.'s). Gulp!:chicken:

Love to you all and I'll tell you later what the scale said. Eek, Eek!

06-07-2003, 09:38 AM
Hello all!

BIG STORM bearing down on us- we're not even going to look for yardsales much less set up our own today.
Today's thought is again from Bob Perks- I hope you enjoy it:

“Oh what a beautiful morning,
Oh what a beautiful day,
I've got a wonderful feeling,
Everything's going my way.”

Where was that coming from? Someone was singing so early in the morning and it was a happy song, too.

You could see the look on the faces of others in the lobby of the hotel. If I could read minds as well as I read people, I’d hear them saying “Stop it!”, “Give me a break!”, “No one’s that happy!”

There are days I don’t even attempt happy until noon, but this lady was truly in love with life.

She was a cleaning lady, an honorable career that requires hard work and long hours. But you’d think she was the president of the hotel.

I had to talk to her. I wanted what she had. I wanted to wake up everyday and sing, “Oh what a beautiful morning!”

I bet you thought I did. Sorry if I disappoint you, but what really connects me to the people I write for and speak to is the real fact that life is tough and living it is tougher. But taking the time to see life in the details makes the journey worth every moment.

Beliefnet.com calls me “the philosopher of everyday moments.”

I see myself as a scavenger in search of treasure.

She was a treasure.

“I couldn’t help but notice you singing this early in the morning, “ I said to her.

“That’s why they named me “Jetty,” with a “J”. Not Betty. We lived near the shore and a “jetty” sticks out into the ocean. My mother wanted me to stick out in life,” she told me.

“Do you sing all the time?” I asked her.

“Only when I’m happy. Wait, I’m happy all the time!” she said laughing. “So, yes I do sing all the time.”

“But most people would think that cleaning up after others would not be a happy job,” I said.

She stopped what she was doing and looked at me. I thought I had insulted her. Believing there was some new industry wide official title for what she did, I tried not to say “cleaning lady” or “maid.” Whatever you call it, it’s an important job with little appreciation.

But she saw it all differently.

“Sir, I am the “Keeper of Shine,” she said proudly. Her smile alone brightened the lobby.

“Excellent!” I said.

“What do you do?” she asked me.

“I search for people who brighten the world just by being in it. I am honored, my friend, to finally meet “The Keeper of Shine.”

"I believe in you!"
Bob Perks

And the question of the day reflects the thought of the day:

"What are you the "keeper " of? "


I've got to run out for a little while, I'll be back !

06-07-2003, 09:51 AM
Mornin'. Had a good OP day yesterday and was rewarded this morning by once again seeing a "lowest number yet" that I had seen only once before. It will disappear again immediately but I am firmly convinced that it will show up again soon on a more regular basis when all conditions are right.

Despite the miserable rain and storminess Kaylets mentioned we're off today to play with the princesses and to share an early Father's Day dinner tomorrow with DD and DS and all the rest of us. DD will be in the Bahamas next weekend. DS was planning to come up next weekend but this should work just as well.

06-07-2003, 10:47 AM
Hey gals! :wave:

Geez, what a week. Had another blowup with DD on Wednesday night. I'm about at my limit. We're at the point where we've tried everything....extra attention, a bit of spoiling...nope, that doesn't work....grounding...nope...withdrawal of phone/computer priviledges...uh-uh....refusal to give her ANY money...nope...applying consequences to improper actions...nope, doesn't work either. We even took her door off her room for a while. She has no respect for either of us, and it doesn't matter what we say to her. She's going to do what she wants, and doesn't care what we think of it. Where do you go from that point when you tell her flat out "NO" and she crosses that line without any regard? Even the police have spoken to her about her behaviour after she disappeared overnight a few months ago. :shrug: It's affecting our marriage now, because we bicker about how to deal with her. I've had enough. We're buying her plane ticket today. I just hope she will get along at my sister's.

So, haven't really been paying much attention to my weight-loss plan, other than to moan and gripe that I'm STILL playing with the same poundage as last year. Have discussed it with my landlady/friend who is in the same boat, and we are starting fresh on Monday. I'm taking a break this weekend. Save me one of those FRESH START cards for Monday morning. Oh, the five shirts I ordered for a mere $60.00 arrived! Three fit, two are just a smidge tight in the bust, but because I really like them and they were dirt cheap I'm going to hang on to them for a month and see if a few pounds will make a difference. They were only $12 a piece, one regular $60, the other regular $55! If not, I can still send them back, but I don't want to, so there's my inspiration.

Finally got a doctor's appointment for Thursday. Something has to be done about this back of mine so I can get back to exercising.

06-07-2003, 03:25 PM
Happy Saturday, kidlets!

Ramon and I are off to Washington tonight (we get to FLY! Yip, yip, yip) to see my parentals. I mean, to watch my Dad moan and groan and Mom have her big chance to boss him the **** around (he had hip surgery and she's a nurse). Should be interesting.

Oh, Wildfire. Your life sounds so much harder than mine. I admire you so much. It's not like the movies, raising kids, is it? In movies there's conflict and rebellion, but then you yell just the right words and the kid magically comes around, feels deep remorse and gratitude and life's roses again. Having never raised anything (even my rosemary plant just gave it up) at all, I can't say anything to you except that I'll think about you lots and send you as much serenity and wisdom as I can. Well, I'm only 28. You're not gonna get much wisdom, come to think of it. I'll just give some generic good vibes, how's that? :goodvibes

I weighed in for the first time in a year last evening. I was at 221, 2 pounds down from my weight at my last Dr's visit. Since the scales are pretty different, I'm gonna celebrate next week when it goes down again. You know what's freaky for me to think about? I could lose 100 pounds, 100! and I could still survive. I mean, I'm a pretty brawny girl (lots of Scottish blood), so 121 wouldn't be very fun, but I could live like that hypothetically. Eeeeech. :stress: Maybe I shouldn't think about it.

Well, see you Tuesday, ladies. Have wonderful, fulfilling weekends.

Oh, yeah, QOD - what am I the keeper of? I'm not a keeper, I'm a Watcher. I see things about people, even strangers, that others miss. I'm not saying that I can see through people and figure them out, no, but I see need and I see beauty and I try to help those who need helping (or if I can't help them I feel sorrow for them) and the people in whom I find something wonderful I try to tell them about it. That was grammatically horrific. I apologize.


06-08-2003, 08:02 AM
Hello all!!

Last week I picked up a few books, one of them on Women's Self Esteem. Many of the examples are dated (Brooke Shields is underage) but many of the themes we discuss here often.

Including a chapter on "self talk, inner programming, " . About a week ago, I challenged myself to say everytime I looked in the mirror, "I"m Healthier than I've been in years"... and have to admit, only did that for one day and FORGOT about it! Literally forgot......... I iniated the challenge and by the next day....FORGOT... !!!

So the "Internal Muzak" continues on .... "Always been heavy, always am uncomfortable about my size, ........." .

So, I rechallenge myself and who ever would like to join me..... And this time I am putting a sticker on the mirror to remind me...
to say to myself "I am healther than I've been in years!" If you say it outloud, even whispered, the brain remembers you saying it.

One of us shared Dr. Phil's advice about habits- that you have to 'Replace' the habit w/ a new one-- if you leave an 'empty' place
its very very difficult to stop the old habit-- its far easier to 'Replace'. But just as important, the new behaviour needs to reinforced too!
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So, today's thought one I've used before but is a perfect fit:
"Motivation like bathing doesn't last; that's why we recommend it daily" -- Zig Ziglar
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And the question of the day:

"What was the nicest thing that was said to you this week?"-- Table Topics

Take care all!
I'm healthier than I've been in years!

06-08-2003, 09:00 AM

Had a great time yesterday...no points 'cause there weren't enough dogs, but we took the breed and a puppy group 2...she behaved very well which is the point at this stage. Anything else is a bonus.

Cerise :cp: on the 2 pounds!

QOD...hmnnn. I talk to myself all the time...I know I put on a pair of pants Thursday that I hadn't worn in months 'cause they were snuggish....and they aren't now, so I'm sure I said something nice. I tend to talk to myself in the mirror a lot....maybe that might not be a good thing if someone hears me? :o

Wildfire how old is your daughter?

Anyway gotta buzz....I seem to be accompaning my daughter tonight on her recital pieces...and that darn Italian diddley one is driving me nuts. My fingers don't wanna do that noodling around! So off to practice!

Ta Rah and I'm gonna do it! (maybe that will be my mirror mantra)


06-09-2003, 07:37 AM
Hello all!!

What a difference for me when I have plenty of water vs not...
Cravings are manageable... Must be a slow learner on this one, seems like every Friday I run out of water and Saturday is a battle of wills- then Sunday, after there is more water in the house, I'm amazed at the difference......hmmmm...

But I am healthier than I've been in years!!
Today's thought of the day is again part of the Mike Brescia Life Laser Lesson.

'Goals give you more than a reason to get up in the
morning; they are an incentive to keep you going all day.
Goals tend to tap the deeper resources and draw the best
out of life.'

- Harvey Mackay
Today's question is:
Name 3 goals.

My dad used to tell me stories about the day every year
that the auto manufacturers introduced their new line of
cars and trucks.

That day, people would flock to the dealerships. It looked
like the county fair at the local car lots. Dealers sold
more cars that day than the whole month before.

There wasn't anything like that excitement, I've been told.

Today, new models hardly get noticed. At least not the way
they used to.


Because there is so much more trying to grab our attention

Because billions of dollars have been spent by companies
in all the world's industries studying what makes us buy or
not buy things... Learning how to target us more effectively.

I mean, at every turn everything we could ever want, as a
consumer, is being promoted to us... 'GET ME!' 'ALL YOUR

The marketing noise is deafening.

And it works.

It makes us want what's being sold... right now.

In fact, it makes us want to have EVERYTHING now.

'Why does THAT person get to have that car, those clothes,
that girl friend, that job, that grade, those sneakers when
I'm stuck with less.'

'I deserve to have it now.'

'Let's steal that money, that bottle, that shirt, that
car, his girl friend.'

'Life's not fair.'

Yeah, life's not always fair. But that's life.

Oh, I know, life's too short to work so hard to be thin,
to be financially secure, to follow rules, to get good
grades, to...

But almost to the person, and I talk with lots of
people... almost all depression and anxiety is a result of
false expectations of what life 'should' be.

Did you ever hear of the saying, 'If you always do what
you've always done, you'll always get what you've always

So my dear, dear friend, in the areas of life that you
want to change, you need concrete goals or you'll always
get the usual cr*p.

Look at today's quote again.

Gives me chills.

Did you ever meet anyone who lost 50 pounds or more unless
they had the goal to do so?

No goal... no achievement.

How about building a multi-million dollar company without
some clear daily and long-term goals?

Does anyone get straight A's without the goal to do so

Let me be as clear about this as I can be...

You can get along, get some halfway decent grades, maybe
rise up in your company just by showing up, get married,
have kids and have a fairly average life without clear goals.

I mean, if you're typical you've gotten where you are now
without setting and achieving any REALLY challenging
benchmarks for yourself in any area of life. If you're
typical and honest with yourself, you'll likely agree.

And while this discussion isn't meant to be the final word
on goals, I think you can see now that committing to a
clearly defined goal is critical to getting what you really

Especially with all of life's distractions, and the
constant pressures to believe that our successes must
happen NOW.

Look at today's quote again now.

Want energy? Set some goals in any area of life you want.

And this time, commit to it like you've never committed to
anything before.

This process will give you such a charge it will astound

Truly depressed? Then set a really challenging goal and
work like you've never worked for anything else before.

Make reaching this goal the most important thing.

And I know this sounds too simple.

Look, life isn't as complicated as it feels sometime.

My life sucked in every way until I was nearly 25 years old.

I got fired from a lot of minimum wage jobs and had to
live in a 9 year old van as a result.

And it didn't turn around until I got super focused on one
thing... keeping a job. When I focused on that almost
exclusively, suddenly I started to get really good at it.

I didn't get fired either.

Well, many huge goals later, and my web site is the
biggest of it's kind in the world. More big goals and
Laser Life Lessons is the biggest ezine of it's kind. And
there are many other incredible things going on here that
will ultimately change millions of people's lives.

And none of them would have ever come about without a
committed focus to mastering one thing, then mastering
another one thing, then...

Now, that does lead to some imbalance at times.

But in all honesty, the most successful, wealthy, well
known and yes, happiest people who ever lived totally
mastered just a few things. That mastery in just a few
areas of life gave them freedoms and joy that few people
will ever know.


Because few people want to work hard enough to master

Most don't understand the implications of earning what
they get.

Most don't understand, until it's often too late, that
things that come too easy or that were dishonestly gained
never stay around long. What, you thought your bad luck was
just bad luck?

Not bad luck. Bad beliefs. Bad actions.

And it doesn't matter how big the gains are...

90% of all million+ dollar lottery winners blow it all
very quickly and spend the rest of their lives bitter and
with nothing...

But not you.

You're going to set a big goal right now, take concrete
steps toward reaching it and make decisions that will
support you on your path to success.

And this will all start to make sense.

Don't read this and forget about it.

Do something now or your chance will be lost.

All right! There's hope for you!

Mike Brescia- Life Laser Lessons

Take care all!

06-09-2003, 08:16 AM
Mornin' all!

Quickie post...Kaylets I love those Laser life Lessons. QOD 3 goals. hmm. That is a toughie. I guess the first would be to treat others as I would like to be treated myself....and sometimes those to whom I am the closest are the hardest to be nice to...especially family...they DO know how to push those buttons!
Second would be to have peace and serenity...to be unflappable and calm is a great thing. Very easy on the blood pressure and mind. And third would be to be healthier....and that includes movin' on down that :devil: scale! Now see you've already made me think!

Today had better be a water day for me too....I was feeling parched at midnight and refused to drink 'cause I didn't want to be doing the bathroom boogie all night!

Today is the last of the stress....I think I am remaining fairly calm...then I can go and weed my gardens or something.

:wave: to all!


06-09-2003, 03:50 PM
Happy Monday all!

Any day that involves 6 week old kitties sleeping on your lap is a GOOD day! :goodvibes: Mom brought her little fuzzy kid home yesterday and she's so cute! She has the outline of tan wings on her black shoulder blades and I swear she's got a tan ring on the top of her head (yes, a halo). If this cat wasn't meant to be my Mom's then....?????????

Mom's having her node surgery tomarrow to see if the cancer spread past her breast - saying "think good thoughts" feels like the understatement of the year - but thanks for your support you lovely women you! :grouphug: I'll have the little fuzz-butt to kitty-sit tomarrow, so that'll be comforting...

Had a successful week - down 4 pounds - juuuust shy of 30 pounds total now, and 2 pounds from my lowest - a number last seen in April 2001. I also have to brag that on Saturday I did my longest *ever* time on my elliptical. 20 minutes! WaaaHooooo! :cb:

Cerise - Hedwig! I just saw that movie a couple weeks ago! I'm very touched that your next walk is dedicated to my Mom - I'm sure she won't mind a little Angry Inch material sung while you walk!
Oh, and don't think of the 100 pounds! :nono: I was there too and it's just too overwhelming to look at the big picture. Look at the 10 pound "chunks" - it's much more doable and you reach each goal quicker! :dance:

Anagram - I know you'll be seeing that number soon! Should we set another "below 200 by____" goal together now?

Wildfire - I really, really do hope that time with your sister is what DD needs. I don't have kids, but it sounds incredibly frustrating and heartbreaking to be giving her everything she needs and have absolutely nothing work. Perhaps once she's gone you and hubby can do some mending too. :love:
I vote on keeping the tops too! Better to have something small to move in to than something large! I bought a pair of capris at Target that are juuuuust a bit too small around the waist (perfect everywhere else). Wonderful motivation!

Kaylets - I'll join you... I'm healthier than I've been in years! I look in the mirror and usually notice how far I still have to go - not how far I've come. Time to change that way of thinking! :yes:

Q o' the Days
~Right now I feel like the Keeper of Faith. I'm normally a "panic now, be realistic later" kind of person and that's all changed recently. I must say I really like this different way of looking at things...
~Nicest thing said - not so much something said as much as it was implied. My Dad while visiting last Thursday made a couple comments that lead me to believe he's proud of me (he'd never say it outright), on how I'm handling Mom's illness, how I've made my house a home, how much I've accomplished all on my own.
~Lastly, 3 goals:
*Maintain a healthy lifestyle for LIFE, not just until I'm "thin"
*Tell my friends and family how much they mean to me NOW, and not waiting or assuming they know
*Remeber that life's about the journey, the lessons to be learned from living and enjoying the view - not about a destination.

I'm healthier than I've been in YEARS!!!!!


06-09-2003, 04:52 PM
HI all
Just checking in. Life has been ok. Feeling a little blue today..weather just stinks. Just wanted you to know that i read your posts...just never know what to post these days. My folks are doing well...and same with everyone around me..thank god. I hope everything is ok with your mom , teri

Well talk to u later

06-09-2003, 09:18 PM
Hello all!!

Scoobysnacks!! I am soooo glad you stopped by-- I have been wondering how you were and
how life was treating you!
And yes, everyone I know here on the Eastcoast is crabby, blue, down in the dumps or .......
just sick of this rain!! Woman at work said she spent all of yesterday watching goofy movies and crying
over them. And,no, it wasn't the lifetime channel!

Wildfire-- Its so tough at this age. Especially when they really do need to finish school.
They know you can't desert them completely as tempting as that might be. IF your sister can
enforce the same rules, it may be the BEST thing for DD to see that no matter where you go,
there are always going to be rules. And that's so true w/ life--
I know most of our problems w/ DS are because he always knew how to hit DH's guilt buttons.
To me, its "talking back" and disrespectful but DH would listen. Not anymore but we are years
beyond highschool now. Not sure what secondary education is called in your neck of the woods, here
its high school.
You know you can always come here and vent. The best thing for me w/ DS was to finally
"share" and I found out I wasnt the only one.

Punkin-- I am proud of you too. You are a Keeper of the Faith-- And I think you are right--
I know this will all work out. AND KUDOS on the scale decrease!! You are doing it now!
You are getting so skinny you are going to have run around the shower to get wet!

Cerise-- What a great idea! Big events are great to dedicate to someone but so are the everyday
walks, workouts, etc etc. That's a great idea!

Ceara- Thanks-- I just bumped into Mike Brescia a few days ago and so far, I'm liking his
"Lessons" too. As for water, I had drunk 4 1 liters by noon and was still STARVED today.
AND there was another cake too !! Dark chocolate-- very tough to stay away. About 12:30 I got very
busy and luckily when I got my head above water again, it was 2:30 and cake was gone!
But it was a close one!

Time to get the iron warmed up and get the clothes together for the am--

Anagram, Arabella,wsw, Zadie, hmm, who else-- Frogger-- I know I 'm forgetting someone-

I'll catch up w/ you all soon!!

I'm healthier than I've been in years!

06-09-2003, 10:15 PM
hi all!

so good to be able to catch up on all your posts. i really do think of you all, even when i may be having "technical difficulties" and can't respond in depth or to you individually, as i would like. have done pretty well op the past few days and drinking plenty of water. i was feeling hungry a while ago, but since i know i have eaten enough today( and have had dinner already) , i decided to check this thread and at least delay having a snack or ideally, not have one at all. i think it worked! i feel inspired to stay on track after "checking in" with you all. well, have a good remainder of your evening, firecrackers. take care.

06-10-2003, 07:10 AM

Sounds like a good thread name but it's also very true in my case. Resounding theme.

wsw - good for you on the snack beating technique.

Punkin good luck to your Mom today - you are doing so well - 30 lbs. wow. Well, it's sure I won't make onederland by July 4, so I have been rethinking (and it's discouraging). What timeline is looking good for you now that you're on a roll? I'd REALLY like to be there by my 9/15 birthday. But things are going so slowly. I FEEL like I'm losing but it's not showing on scale unless I look back three months or so. It's one plateau after another but also a series of little NSVs.

However, I had two good OP days after not quite making it on Saturday. Didn't really overeat but not best choices all day, less water and no exercise. But really good for the spirits as I spent most of it playing with the granddaughters. So maybe a NSV day. And I guess that brings me to "keeper of family" - the health, safety, traditions, welfare and, yes, values of the eight of us who are my "nuclear" family, the mater familias. It used to be of the whole dingdong clan but I've semi-retired.

Wildfire, I feel for you. I look at these little granddaughters and see how DD is devoted to them and know that they'll break her heart a time or two (as she did mine). And maybe mine along with hers. I hope your sister is able to do the magic and bless her for being there. I know two of my sisters were great influences on DD - well, pretty much all of her life though she doesn't see them as much the last years.

Scoobs, yes the few days of nice weather we had recently have been a sanity saver for many. Is bro still doing exercise thing with you?

Ceara - welcome to non-stress time - shake it all out and enjoy! And, Cerise, hope you found the parentals in good shape. So nasty after hip surgery with all the requirements, restrictions. And the ever possible risk of popping out. Hope all goes smoothly.

Goals - mmm, first, just to lead the best life I can on every level. Second, to recognize and appreciate all the good people and things in my life. Third, to appreciate myself and all the good about me while trying to correct and minimize what's not so hot.

Up way too early this a.m. and will probably fade early too. Much running to do today but at least expect nice weather in which to do it.

Quoting the Empress (who I'm glad is well), Avanti!

06-10-2003, 07:28 AM
Hello all!!

Yes, Anagram, my vote would be that your time w/ the princesses was a BIG NSV-- You chose your priority and aren't letting an guilt spoil the experience. My guess is you got my excercise in than you think trying to keep up with them anyway!

Punkin-- I am keeping you Mom in mind today. I know you are with her and know we are with you. I am sending her strength and thoughts of well being. We are here for you!

Today's thought is:

"Striving for excellence motivates you; Striving for perfection is demoralizing. --- Harriet Beraiker
Today's question:
"Can you remember the day you got your first bicycle?" -- Table Topics

Again, running late!

Take care all!

06-10-2003, 07:32 AM
Hi all! Just a fly by as I have to prepare for a meeting offsite this am.

Everything is going OK with the house. We'll close on the 23rd. Yippee!!! Put in 5 cameras from the wedding and only 2 came out. (The other 3 were so dark I couldn't tell what was what,so I didn't buy the pix.) I have to put in the rest of the cameras soon. I forgot to do that.

I do have bad news, my doggie that I've had since I was 10 (he currently lived with my step-dad in TX) died yesterday. I'm very sad. He was old though. Whiskers was his name, he was a miniature snauzer. He'll be greatly missed :cry:

I have to run, I'll try to check in later today.

06-10-2003, 08:22 AM
Well, this is Day 9 of my march to Independence. I don't remember ever feeling quite so unstable! All these feelings, so far mostly unpleasant (which I guess is why I chose to bury them). On Friday, I experienced clear, sharp, anger -- not something I feel very often! I've heard this kind of thing spoken of before, in people dealing with addictions, that when they stop abusing the substance, they often have to go through a period of dealling with very uncomfortable feelings. Because they ordinarily blot them out. Not really having trouble with the behavioral part of it - eating only when I'm hungry, not eating more than I need. I was inclined to have a second pork cutlet last night, but thought about whether I needed it or not and decided I didn't.

I feel funny getting so bent out of shape about little things, when there's really nothing seriously wrong in my life. But I guess ordinarily, I pretend that things don't affect me at all. I do eventually talk myself into reason.

Punkin, sending :goodvibes: for you and your mom! It sounds as if the two of you have a wonderful relationship.

Wildfire, I really feel for you and your problems with DD. It will be such a relief for you when she's safely at your sister's. And getting out of the home can be a really maturing experience for kids, as they start to see themselves as separate from their parents. Hope all goes well -- enjoy your break! My son , who lives with us (not an ideal situation) is on vacation now and intended to go away for 5 days. His plans fell through, though :( Was looking forward to a little time with DH with just us in the house. Ah well.

Kaylets, I gotta say -- watching goofy movies and crying over them is one of my all-time favorite ways to spend a rainy afternoon. Haven't done it in eons, but must try to set a date up soon!

Frogger, so sorry for the loss of your doggie! I think we often underestimate how much our furry friends mean to us. I think dogs are the most noble and loving creatures on the face of the earth. Although I have 3 cats, myself :shrug: Well, they're slightly dog-like cats...

Alright now, WHERE is our EYDIE? If you're lurking pop in and say :wave: Missie!

To all Firecrackers, mentioned or unmentioned, let's get out there and make it a good one! Love to all!

06-10-2003, 08:51 AM
Wood Nymph, be strong. You'll wrestle those demons and win and be the stronger for the battle. It is hard when you've been so "together" by stuffing things down. And "little" things are magnified by the stuffing down. I have struggled for years to let go of "little" things not acknowledged at the time. And one thing that I didn't recognize for years still troubles me but I have acknowledged it and try no longer to be hurt by it. And, as you say, life is good and these things should not have a part in it. But you have to air them out before you discard them. And look at them from all angles and decide what you want to do with or about them. And overall I bet you think your March to Independence is great.

On the QOD of nice things said recently, I've decided to be immodest and tell y'all that DH said again this week how lucky he is to have met me. (Now that more than cuts both ways.) I'm still floating on air. PLUS good friend who has not previously mentioned my weight loss said that she and her dh have noticed I've lost a lot of weight and am walking so much better and I look great.

And I do rememmber my first bike. DH gave it to me for a birthday somewhere past 35 or so. I had no bike as a child and never learned to ride. So after he taught our kids he bought me a bike and figured he'd teach me as well. On the second try, I fell off and never tried again. Put that down to one of the things I regret. I SHOULD have learned no matter how many times I fell.

06-10-2003, 09:58 AM
Anagram, thanks for the support! You're very right that, on the whole, I think that the quest is great. And, when I occasionally have some food impulse and remind myself that I only eat when I'm hungry, I feel liberated, rather than deprived. I think the reason this is hitting me so hard is that I haven't put the whole package together for years - I've done the behavioral part, but without declaring that I was giving up the obsession (unlike other addictions, we can't quite give up food). And I suppose there may be hormonal and situational elements to this too. However, I am hanging in, and being strong.

You're doing so well! And reaping the rewards. So terrific when people start to notice. And what a nice comment from your Sweetie!

Re: bicycle - I got my first one when I was about 26 or 27. Never had one as a kid, but (sort-of) learned to ride one. I don't have one now, but am hoping to get one soon. I used to cycle an hour and a half out to the beach, spend a couple of hours and cycle back in town to work 10 or so hours waiting tables. Ah, I was young! And slender :rolleyes:

zadie k
06-10-2003, 11:12 AM
Quick Hello. Work is being very demanding. I almost did not wake up in time today and I was late and this is the first day my boss is back after about a week off, so even though I am usually the first to arive she got here before me. Job still not certain after I pass the bar so every time something like this happens I feel like it is one step back.

Generally going well. Lost one pound this week so I am down to 152.

I hope everyone is holding on well. Kittens are the cure for all of the worlds ills in my opinion.


06-10-2003, 11:43 AM
HI All, hope everyone is having a happy TUESDAY! The sun is shinning today!

Yea my brother still exercise with me however i have been able to work out on my own more recently. I enjoy his company though. He will work out this afternoon with me. I need to work out harder. I feel like i lost my motivation a little. However i do work out at least 5 times a week. Just not as hard as i used to. I feel bad about that. However you can just keep trying.

Hi Pumpkin praying for your mom...and thinking about how supportive you were when my mom was going through soemthing similiar. THANKS! Oh and i think your doing awesome with your 30lbs down. You go girl!

Arabella, i dieting can bring on a bunch of emotions. Its really hard to be hungry and remain stable sometimes. Especially if your low on carbs. I understand about feeling silly however i the feeling is so real. I joke about thin people being cranky all the time cause they dont eat.

Kaylet, thanks for the warm welcome back. You are so sweet. SO how have you been doing? WHat have you been up too?

SO im back on trying my pound a week method. More salads less carbos...and more water water.

Talk to u all later

06-10-2003, 11:56 AM
Yep - you nailed it, Scoob. It's the carbs, nature's tranquillizer. I'm going low-ish carb, mostly aiming for really healthy carbs. I'm opposed to hunger, though. I'm trying to ALWAYS eat when I'm hungry, and never otherwise.

Your comment about "cranky skinny people" reminded me of a kind-of funny story. My ex-BF used to work with a skinny cranky guy who said he had trouble controlling his moods. My BF said, you ought to try eating something when you're cranky or depressed. The guy tried it and was amazed at how well it worked. Then BF didn't see the guy for a couple of months. When he did, he hardly recognized him, he'd gained so much weight. Nasty side effect of this "drug of choice."

06-10-2003, 12:02 PM
Mornin' all...

Semi- quick postie as I've got 501 things to do today... (busy is good though!). Mom left a card on my desk this morning - made me cry - it amazes me how she can think of *me* right now when everyone is so worried about *her*. Have I mentioned how awesome she is? :)

Scoob! Good to see you again! I was wondering where you dissappeared to... don't be a stranger! :nono:

Kaylets, you had me laughing this morning!! :lol: Run around the shower to get wet... HA! That's not quite true, but I was telling Bo-Beena a couple days ago that the little shelf that developed between the butt and lower back is quickly shrinking to just a mini ledge (and if I stand really, really straight it's gone!!!). :cb: I'm melting.... meeeelllltiiiiing!

WSW, no long posts necessary, I'm just glad you're here. Check in when you can ;)

Anagram, what a sweet hubby you have! Hmmmm.... Onderland by 9/15? :chin: That's almost exactly 3 months away, so it'd be close... but something we could shoot for?? I'm exactly 30.5 pounds from that blessedly beautiful, much coveted "1-something" number. You think we could do it????

Arabella, I empathize with your feelings right now. You go right ahead and be in a foul mood, be emotional, be angry. It's probably been a long time since you've *felt* instead of medicated.
Since I've been loosing weight with my Dr.'s help (aka pharmaceutical assistance) I've been forced to feel every emotion. I can't eat it when I have no desire to eat! I have my 1 month check up with her tomorrow and I have to tell her what a learning experience it's been. Mom was diagnosed 4 days after I started loosing - and I've had to FEEL, not eat. You and I are finding non-food ways of coping with emotions and I think that's an incredible tool.
Besides, now my decks are stained, my scrapbook almost caught up, the house is spotless, etc.... :lol:

Frogger, I'm sorry about your Whiskers. Loosing a pet is never easy but when they're around for most of your life it seems even harder. I have a few pooches in canine heaven, I'm sure they're giving him the grand tour... :angel:

Zadie, I agree, kittens are the cure-all aren't they? Too bad you couldn't hide one in your desk for stress relief too!

Speaking of which, I should probably go let the heathen out now. I'm kitty-sitting, Mom left at 6am for the hospital - they said they'd know the results while she was still on the table, hopefully by noon. My stepfather and family friend (she's a cytologist and my self-proclaimed surrogate grandmother) went with her. Thanks for your thoughts everyone. :grouphug:



06-10-2003, 12:36 PM
hi firecrackers

punkin-hope things go well for your mom today. she does sound like an "awesome" person, as is her daughter! way to go on your weight loss.

anagram-glad you're receiving such nice compliments on your weight loss.

frogger-sorry to hear about losing your doggie. that is very sad.

hi scooby-good to hear how things are going with you.

wildfire-hope things begin to improve for you and your dd while she is at your sister's. must be rough dealing with all this.

hi also to arabella, kaylets, ceara, zadie k, cerise, and everyone else.

i made it out early this morning to get some errands done before the heat gets too bad. i was proud of myself for not giving in last night and eating more than i needed to. arabella-i can certainly understand about those unsettled feelings sometimes when making good food/health choices. way to go, arabella! this stuff sure isn't easy--but at least, worth the struggle. thinking of you all. take care, wsw.

06-10-2003, 01:28 PM
quote: Besides, now my decks are stained, my scrapbook almost caught up, the house is spotless, etc....

LOL! That is really funny! I just don't feel like sitting around that much any more. And I'm more inclined to do some of the jobs around the house rather than get overwhelmed by how much needed to be done (hmmmm.... what other situations does that apply to...) and doing none of it.

wsw, you're right -- it IS worth the struggle. And we need to find ways to reward, soothe and comfort ourselves without resorting to food. I'm trying not to drink too much coffee, but I've been allowing myself some lately. And it does seem like a treat to me, whereas before I would have had to have a little something with it to make it a treat.

06-10-2003, 07:42 PM
Hi everybody! Yes, I've been kind of lurking on and off. Truth is, I've been rather depressed over my 40th birthday being a total non-event. Where were my friends? Why didn't my husband do anything? [Especially when I told him that this was a big deal for me---I said it out loud too, with my own mouth--not telepathically!] Hang onto something while I have a big baby moment: I feel so unlovable and forgotten!:( :?: :stress: :cry: My best friend didn't do anything special---I'm really confused and sad about it all. I feel like I'm in some sort of limbo now because I didn't have my rite of passage. 40! And NOTHING!
It's been so weird and bad that I'm going for counseling about it and I'm dragging DH with me! He's usually so sensitive [more so than me], so I don't know what happened. Dig this: for the first time ever no one sung 'Happy Birthday' to me. Wahhh!

I could go on and on....but that's why I've been gone and I've missed you all something awful. I just wanted to have something good and positive to say, and not be paralyzed by my own sadness and confusion.:(

06-10-2003, 07:49 PM
And lest anyone think that I've become totally self-centered in my dotage....:lol:

Frogger, Sorry about the loss of your old friend. As I always say, Better to have loved and lost...

Punkinseed, hoping like mad that you get the best possible news today!:)

Arabella, thanks for asking about me---and the squirrel-y birthday card!

I'm looking forward to catching up with everybody!

06-10-2003, 10:15 PM
Oh, Eydie. No one sang? I think that's a minimum. Glad you're going to counseling rather than stay funked out.

Wood nymph (and others), saw a snatch of a segment on Good Morning America where some doc (?) was talking about the "seduction of food" (I think that's the name of his book). He says the same substance is produced by food as by drugs just less of it and was talking about the addictiveness of food for some people. Seemed interesting and wish I had seen more.

Good day today food and waterwise. Only exercise was some stretching but not enough to say I exercisedk. Sun shine overwhelming. Feeling calm, rewarded, relaxed and happy. Wish same to you all. Hope news was good, Punkin.

06-10-2003, 10:27 PM
FRom the GMA site -

June 9 — Ever felt like your constant cravings for chocolate, cookies or cheese are beyond your control? According to the author of Breaking the Food Seduction, you're right.

There are biological reasons for those cravings, and people who think that they are too weak-willed to stop eating their favorite foods may simply be addicted to them, said Dr. Neal Barnard, president and founder of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine and an adjunct professor at the George Washington University School of Medicine.

"Certain foods — chocolates, cheeses, sugars, starches and meats — are capable of stimulating the same part of the brain that responds to alcohol, tobacco, even heroin," Barnard said. "They unleash a chemical called dopamine, the brain's feel-good chemical, and that's why those foods are addictive."

Foods that produce such cravings, and sabotage healthy diets, include sugary and starchy foods such as cookies, cakes and white bread, as well as chocolate, cheese and meat. As with drugs, coffee or alcohol, people go into withdrawal when they don't have the foods.

"That's where the cravings come from," Barnard said. "People feel hooked on these foods."

Mood-Lifting Meals

Those foods all stimulate the release of opiates in the brain, lifting your mood, he said.

Some are not only addicting, but are appetite stimulants as well.

They play havoc with your blood sugar, which brings on cravings. Basically, the rush of sugar in the blood causes a person's energy to rise too quickly. After the rise, the energy falls just as quickly, so the person feels as though they need to eat something to bring it back up again.

Not all starchy foods are on the list. Pasta, for instance, does not cause a blood sugar spike.

"Eat it — it's not a bad starch," Barnard said.

Despite the fact that certain foods are addictive, it doesn't mean people should cut them out of their diets entirely. Instead, they should give themselves a break for them. The more you eat, the more you crave, Barnard says.

"If you haven't had chocolate for three weeks, you won't crave it," he said. "You'll break the cycle."

Like Mom Said, Eat a Good Breakfast

If you're not eating your favorite foods, what do you eat? One of Barnard's key recommendations is eating a good, solid breakfast every day. A good choice for breakfast is oatmeal — the old-fashioned kind.

"That phrase that it will "stick to your ribs" is true," Barnard said.

His study found that instant oatmeal prompts children to actually snack more. The instant oatmeal is powdery and actually spikes blood sugar, but the oats in the old-fashioned kind are more fiber-filled and slow down digestion.

Also for breakfast, he recommends fresh fruit, whole-grained, darker breads and veggie sausage. Always choose darker breads over white bread, which is one of the addictive starches, he said. Veggie sausage can serve as a source of protein. In general, Americans need to look to plants for proteins, rather than animals, because they are lower in fat and cholesterol, Barnard said.

"This breakfast will block our food cravings because nothing in it stimulates dopamine," Barnard said. "It blocks hunger, as opposed to no breakfast at all. Second, it is high in fiber, and will stick to your ribs, so you're not dying of hunger by 10:30, and looking for a cookie."

The Rule of 10

Though many people skip meals in order to lose weight, he suggests what he calls as "The Rule of 10" as a guideline for dieters. Simply multiply your ideal body weight by 10 to come up with your minimum caloric intake. If your ideal weight is 150 pounds, for instance, multiply that by 10, and you get 1,500. That is the least amount of calories you should ever take in.

"Some dieters skip two meals one day, then binge the next," Barnard said. "That yo-yo dieting is one reason that dieters get into terrible eating habits, including food addictions."

Instead of white bread, search for darker-grained breads, like pumpernickel. White potatoes release sugars very quickly, so try yams or sweet potatoes instead. They release sugars much more slowly.

Once you break the everyday habit of eating favorite foods, like chocolate, you can begin enjoying it again — with limitations.

"You can have it once a week, and enjoy it without a care," Barnard said.


06-11-2003, 08:51 AM
Consider yourself sung to. I can't believe no one celebrated! Every birthday/event calls for some sort of Part-ay. You're close to me aren't you? I'll throw you a big party. What do ya say?

06-11-2003, 08:51 AM
9 days done towards the magic 21. And then another block, and another, and I will keep going. Actually, although I might not continue to count days or blocks forever, the changes I've made are things I want to do permanently. :D I've made it back to Tai Chi regularly, been walking and going to the gym. I'd like to start running a little bit again, and to get back into yoga.

Eydie, you should have come in and told us how you were feeling! I know it helps to talk about these things, and that's what we're here for! So sorry about your non-event birthday - weird that your DH was so bad about it. I'm glad you're going to get some counseling for it. I've had some poor b'day experiences, too. My husband is not the nurturing kind. I have a party for him almost every year (after first ensuring that he wants one). And I eventually said one year, "What would you think of the idea of having a party for my birthday?" The first year we were together on my birthday, when we woke up he asked me what I wanted to do. I said I'd like to go to a particular beach, where the water was warm enough to relax and swim for a bit. Well, he drove in the other direction, to another beach (where you couldn't really linger in the water) and when I asked why, he said the beach I wanted to go to was too far. That night, he cooked me HIS favorite dinner. Afterwards he complained to me for an hour or so that he wasn't happy with the way his life was going. Worst birthday ever! He's not as bad as he used to be, but --- wow! Looking back, I don't know why I didn't break up with him. Hope the counseling is helpful!

Anagram, thanks for bringing us the article. Verrrrrry interesting! Love your description of how you're feeling today, too. I shall strive to feel similar!

:queen: Punkin, hope your news is good! Sending good thoughts.... :goodvibes:

To all Firecrackers, mentioned or unmentioned, let's take this day and make the best possible use of it. Love to all!

06-11-2003, 08:57 AM
Hello all!

Computer problems at home, seems like our service or maybe the modem. DH called and was told we were the 5th complaint but
since its cable, we have to have an house call. Might be down till
Sat so I am posting here from work and must be brief. ( And you know how I hate that word!)

Punkin- HOW IS MOM? I am really hoping for the best.

Eydie- How about you throw yourself a party??

Anagram- Read the GMA clip quickly. And makes so much sense!
Thought of the day:
Four little words sum up what has lifted most successful individuals above the crowd: a little bit more. They did all that was expected of them and a little bit more.
Question of the day:
"What do you think the question of the day should be today?"

Take care all!

zadie k
06-11-2003, 12:21 PM
Well, I keep getting bumped off of the board so I will be short and sweet!

Not much is happening. Just keeping on my plan and actually exercising.

Re: what should the QOD be?
Maybe something like: What book(s) are you currently reading?

06-11-2003, 12:39 PM
Happy Wednesday! :wave:

Sorry I didn't come back yesterday - I'm wearing too many hats at work now!

Mom's still woozy this morning, poor thing had a really bad reaction to the anesthetic *again* and ended up in extended recovery. They took out 3 nodes, including the "sentinal" - the node the tumor drained into. The sentinal node was clear of cancer :cb: and we should get the results on the other 2 nodes on Thursday (they'll do a far more detailed check on them just to be sure). But the Dr. said he thinks it looks good - that the cancer never spread outside her breast. The best possible news we could've gotten.... So now, the medical oncologist has to decide how to treat her. Even though her lymph is clear, the cancer was of such an extremely vicious variety that they *have* to treat her (both chemo-type and radiation) just on the off chance that one cancerous cell got through somehow - this ain't somethin' you want settling somewhere else...

On a lighter note, she did come home a light shade of blue... yes, I had a smurf momma. My cytologist surrogate granny said it's from the radioactive dye they shot into the area were the tumor was. She's a normal pink shade this morning though! :lol:

Eydie, Eydie, Eydie.... I would've flown to Virginia to spare you what you're going through! I can't believe no one did anything! I think seeing a counselor (with hubby) is an excellent idea. Don't you for a second feel like a "big baby" - your needs were ignored by those you love. Of course you should feel what you're feeling - you've been hurt by their inactions, easily taken as their just not caring.
Please come here to rant, rave and throw the biggest 40 year old temper tantrum we've ever seen - we'll understand and a few of us may lay down next to you to kick and scream in sympathy! :yes:

Relating to what Kaylets said about throwing your own party - do it. Christmas' with my ex were unpleasant. He had his mother do his shopping and 90% of the time I got what *she* thought I should have (her 60+, me 20's - use your imagination). So I started buying my own gifts... Of course now that's not an issue, but I still buy myself something special every Christmas and birthday!

Arabella, I've been experiencing the same busy-bee thing too. I've found myself wandering aimlessly around the house and realize that if this was my "old" life, I'd be spending that time probably eating in front of the tv (cuz tv sometimes isn't that good unless you're also eating). So now I end up *looking* for something to keep me occupied!
2 decks stained, 1 to go! Then a carport to paint, then more yard work.... what am I going to do this winter??? Anyone need a crocheted afgan!?!?!?!?!?

Anagram - Thanks for the article. Amazing how slow on the uptake some are in the medical community huh? Yea, food is addictive, why else would we slowly kill ourselves with it???? They think we're like this by choice? I can remember a time when a 1/2 dozen Reese's Fast Break candy bars would give me the same high as a couple Xanax tablets. THAT should say something! :dz:

Well, time to get some work done - I'm behind a bit because of yesterday's distractions (and an hour phone call from Bo-Beena ;) )

Much love, big hugs and remember.....


06-11-2003, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the support. It feels really good. Don't get the wrong impression--my birthday did get the casual nod, but there was nothing special, nothing 'milestone' about it. And I can't believe how devastated I am still!!!:?: I was SO looking forward to my 40th birthday. I appreciate the thought of a 'do-over', it's a sweet thought, but it's not the same. My fantasy didn't remotely match the reality. Who are my friends?; does anyone know me at all?; do they even want to?; what did I do wrong?, etc. Has me questioning a lot of things. [oh joy...]
Have an appointment with a therapist tomorrow morning----I want to get past this so badly. I WANT MY JOY BACK!!!!!

Punkin, thanks for letting us know. So far, so good!:)

Bear with me, friends. I'll get better. [I will, right?:( ]

06-11-2003, 04:46 PM
Hello, Queens!

Eydie first: No more of that "I'm a baby", "Bear with me" stuff. My dear, I for one am more than willing to rant and rave with you indefinitely about your pain - for as long, seriously, as you need. You are loved, my friend. You are suffering about this and it IS legitimate and necessary. Play it out, for as long as you need. :flame:

Kaylets, thanks as always for your inspirational stuff. I'm learning that I have to recharge my "attitude batteries" a lot more often than I've previously thought. You're that shot in the arm I look for every day. :wizard:

Frogger, love and sorrow to you on the loss of Whiskers. I also have some beloved pets running around in the Big Meadow in the Sky. I'll ask them to introduce themselves.

Ceara, give your puppy a hug for me! Congrats that he/she? behaved for you at the show. :hyper: What sort of recital was your daughter doing? If it's singing, I hear you on that Italian stuff. Ouch. Bet she did great, huh?

Bo Beeeeena. Where are you? :wave:

Zadie, congrats on getting down to 152! I hope your "step back" at work turned out to be nothing - I hear you, though, on feeling like you've lost ground with your boss, especially when your hynie's on the line. Good luck to you.

PUNKIN!!! :cp: :cb: :dance: :flow2: I'm so HAPPY about your Mom's good news. What a relief for all of us to hear, and more so for you, I'm sure. I think the red hair had something to do with it, myself. And the kitten. Hedwig RULES!!! That was such a bizarre, yet life-affirming movie for me, especially the end. Thanks for the comforting words about my 100-lb. hysteria. I feel better now. :p

More prayers in order for your Mom's further treatment.

Arabella, you are so amazing! You are doing so much good work on yourself, inside and out. I'm so glad that you're getting back into the activities that (I'm assuming) make you feel good. I'm so with you on coffee by itself being a treat now. One cup in the morning is what I get, and I enjoy it so much more, now. :smug:

WSW, more than once I've visited you guys to either not eat or to get pumped up to go out and walk. :dancer: It really works, doesn't it? Is it already muggy down your way?

Anagram, I'm going to psychically ooch you along on your effort to get to Onederland by Sept. 15, if that's going to really be a goal of yours. :goodvibes: Bash a bottle of Cristal against your "boat to fitness" for good luck. And thank you for that great food addiction article.

Wildfire, how is your daughter's visit with your sister? I remember that I didn't get along with my parents at ALL as a teenager, but one week of staying with my grandparents made me miss Mom and Dad so much that I behaved a lot better after that. Not that I'm implying that your sister will provide negative reinforcement. :foot: I just think your girl will miss you...

Hello, Scoobysnacks! I joined this thread a couple of weeks ago. I hope the weather's starting to cooperate for you. :rain: Oregon's cloudy again after a wonderful week of REAL summer. I'm desperately trying to hold on to that sunny feeling.

Hope I didn't miss anyone... :dizzy:

I'm doing OK. My Dad is in pain, but more chipper than I thought. It hurts me a lot to see him and Mom aging. One of the sucky parts of being an adult. Yes, I'm still immature enough to be notating the advantages and disadvantages of being a "real" adult. Whatever that is.

Anyway, I had a good visit with them, though after Mom waved goodbye to Ramon and me at the airport, I had to sneak into the bathroom for a good boo-hoo before I joined him at the waiting-area. He is so sweet to me. And after 5 years of marriage, too. Phew. I don't want my mommy to get old and die....*tears welling up*

Ramon and I are moving next month to Seattle, so that he can get another Bachelor's degree in Graphic Design at the Art Institute. We just decided today. I can't wait to tell my parents, in-laws and brothers and sisters that we're going to be about 4 hours closer to all of them. I can hardly write for shaking. I'm so close to my family, and I'll get to see them more.

Today's my walking day, ladies. Send me a mental push when I get home tonight, drop my keys on the table and automatically head for the couch, too weary (I tell myself) to walk for half an hour. Silly me.

Love to all,

06-11-2003, 09:57 PM
good evening, all!

punkin-so glad to hear your mom had good news! hope the remaining results will be just as good too. also hope that whatever treatment the medical oncologist recommends for your mom will turn out to be as tolerable for her as is absolutely possible.

eydie-we're here for you! yell as loudly as you need to.

cerise-glad you had good visit with your folks. hope your dad's pain will get better soon. that's great about your moving to seattle where you'll be closer to your family. i'm sure they'll all be as excited about it as you are.

it is muggy here, alright! summer heat and humidity are now in full swing down here and my poor a/c has been blasting non-stop all week. well, can't complain too much though since lucky enough to have good a/c in my apartment and car. it's those few steps between the two which presents the challenge! because i feel worse physically in the heat (due to ms), i need to make the committment not to use that as an excuse to go off program. i'm saying this out loud because i didn't really pay as much attention to my food today as i have been, and even though it's only one day, i don't want to let those days add up. i need to remember to take good care of myself by eating healthy, exercising, and losing weight. these are things i can control and help me to feel much better than i would otherwise and they do make a difference. so---having said that, i will do some of my stretching and relaxation exercises before getting ready for bed. i am thinking of you all and wishing you a pleasant remainder of your evening. take care, wsw.

06-12-2003, 08:03 AM
Had a hungry day yesterday, ate 5 times I think. Which is okay. I need to remind myself that some days are hungrier than others. The day before I didn't eat a lot, partially because tai chi goes from 6:30-8:00 and it's not good to eat anything substantial within a few hours of class, and then 8 is too late for me to eat dinner, since I go to sleep by about 10. So I try to have something light around 3 or so, and some little thing after class. I've been thinking of trying out the "potato in the evening" thing from "Potatoes not Prozac" (www.radiantrecovery.com). Every time I look at the best type of diet to follow, it always seems to wind up in the lowish carb, glycemic index area. I've been falling a bit short on the nine fruits and veggies a day, so I'm going to start working harder on that. I do eat a lot of them, but nine servings takes a bit of contrivance!

wsw, that's essential to life, isn't it, whatever our states of health -- doing those things that make us feel better, controlling the controllable. I haven't been doing yoga lately and feel like my body really needs it. I'm going to do a set as soon as I finish posting here!

Cerise, the tai chi really does make me feel so much better, but the key is frequency. When I only get to class once in a while and do it without putting a lot of effort into it at home, I really don't get the same benefits. I'm not back to where I was before, but when I've been getting to class regularly, after a session I feel like I've had a full-body massage, and like I couldn't get stressed out about anything if I tried. Oh yeah, I'm going tonight! :D

Punkin, so happy about your mom's news! Continuing to send good thoughts that the treatments will be gentle on her! :goodvibes:

Eydie, I'm kind of in the same spot -- my joy has gone missing, and I want it back. Yup, I'm relatively certain that if we continue to seek it we'll find it. :yes: Yes, we will!

Zadie, always like book questions! I just finished Anne Lamott's "Blue Shoe." Before that I read Margaret Atwood's "The Blind Assassin." Both quite good. Books I've read recently that I loved were Annie Proulx's "That Old Ace in the Hole" (adored "The Shipping News") and Barbara Kingsolver's "Prodigal Summer." Some all time favorites: Cormac McCarthy's "All the Pretty Horses," everything by Louise Erdritch. I just finished "Blue Shoe" last night and I don't know what I'm going to read next :eek: I never feel quite secure unless I've got at least one novel lined up.

Kaylets, hope your computer is back in action soon. As someone (sorry, I forget who!) was saying, we count on you so much for your inspiration! Thank you!

To all Firecrackers, mentioned or unmentioned, have a fabulous day! Love to all...

06-12-2003, 08:53 AM
hello all!!

I am still posting "on the run"--
Just reread some of the posts and am SO GLAD Punkin!! Hurray

Eydie- Think my comment about "Throw yourself a party" as a bit cavalier--on second read, I do now realize how it must seem that those closest to you didn't pick up on the fact that you wanted a party. sorry, didnt mean to be so breezy about your post.

Since I don't have access to my library here I will ask this today:
"What is your favorite way to motivate, inspire yourself?"

Gotto go!

zadie k
06-12-2003, 11:05 AM
Hello all,
This is the nice quiet time of the day at work. I am the first one here (I only work part time and need the afternoon to study for the bar), and today there are two people who are out for a conference. Nice low key day.

I am sticking well to the plan and it is becomming much easier. I am a calorie counter and fat gram counter, which was very difficult to adjust to at first, but now it is becomming a habit. Also, becuase I write everything down I can find the information that I need in my journal rather than having to look up every little thing. I have been walking for exercise, but yesterday I skipped the walk, which is probably ok becuase I spent a couple hours stripping wallpaper which I think is a valid form of exercise.

re: books
Arabella: totally agree with you about "the blind assassin." I am reading Attwoods latest, Orynx and Crake. Have you ever read "Good Bones and Simple Murders"? It is more on the order of short stories/prose poems, but it is probably my favorite Attwood. I am also reading "White Teeth" and "Gould's Book of Fish." I have different books for different rooms of the house becuase if I use the same book everywhere I tend to lose it. I am currently avoiding non-fiction till after the bar exam.

re: Favorite way to motivate/inspire myself
anything outdoors is inspiration for me. to motivate myself I reward myslef with camping trips, folk festivals, concerts and plays.

06-12-2003, 12:08 PM
Hi Zadie - Funny that you're reading "White Teeth" -- I thought of it when I saw your name. I thought it was very good, too. I just read whatever current novel for a few minutes (or longer when I can't resist) before I go to sleep. When I was in university I established that habit, because I had to study so much. Reading a novel any other time still seems like an indulgence to me, but all the better on those rare occasions!

I admire you so much, preparing for your career! I applied to grad school for Psychology, but didn't get in to any of the five schools I applied to, even with a 4.0 GPA. And that's how I ended up doing technical writing. Not so bad, but I would surely have loved to be a therapist. As it is, I just practice on my nearest and dearest, whether they like it or not :rolleyes:

06-12-2003, 12:47 PM
Happy Friday eve!

Quick postie as I'm going to hunker down at work so I can be a total bum later this afternoon. I've earned it! Oh, and now the kitten's name is Sophie.... :lol:

Painting this weekend (Bo-Beena's fault, she keeps inspiring me to cover up my white walls!). My bedroom - light plum with off white sills, doors, etc. :dance: This will eventually be followed with a darker shade of purple in the walk-in closet - I told you I was going to paint my walls purple!

Eydie, you know I'm not a religious person in the typical sense, but I often repeat a single saying to myself when I don't think things are ever going to get better - "this too shall pass". Remember that. No matter what, no matter how bad, it WILL pass and things will get better. :yes:

I spoke with Bo-Beena last night and she's fine. She n' hubby have been painting the inside of the house and getting ready for a family get together this weekend so she's been swamped! :dizzy:

Cerise, thanks for your thoughts for my Mom. I hope your Dad's feeling better soon too. It's not easy at this age is it? I'm torn between swearing I'm still a "kid", but on the other hand, old enough that concern for my parents is creeping in. But I guess such is the circle of life - they bare us, care for us into adulthood, then eventually the tables turn and we end up being the caretaker - kinda like returning the favor. Congrats on your upcoming move too! I'm sure it'll be nice being closer to family.

WSW, I wish I could send you some of my central Oregon high desert mornings... it was 40 this morning (brrrrrr....).

Zadie, I'm with ya' - here's to a low key day!

Arabella, ya know, I bought Potatoes Not Prozac yeeeears ago and never read it. Maybe I should! :chin:

Q o' the Day - What motivates or inspires me? Honestly? A little fear, a little worry for my future health and then the vanity side - my jeans and other clothes that I haven't worn for 3 years that I can *almost* wear. And my friends are always an inspiration!



06-12-2003, 03:41 PM
good afternoon to all the lovely firecrackers!

the weather here is really whacky. it was storming a little while ago with very dark skies, thunder, etc. and now, literally 10 minutes later, it is still raining hard but the sun has just made a brief appearance. well, no one said the weather in nc is boring!

arabella-it certainly resonated with me when you said you never feel quite secure unless you have at least one book lined up. i am like that too. i haven't been able to read as much as i would like lately since my eyes haven't been cooperating as much as they could. it does remind me though to check out some books on tape, which i have done in the past. this way, i can still always have my next book to read waiting in the wings for me.

hi kaylets- i appreciate all your quotes and questions of the day. let's see---my favorite way to motivate, inspire myself is to think about how lucky i am to have such great friends. i am particularly blessed with this since i don't have family. when i think about all i really have to be grateful for in the friend department, it reminds me to get my rear in gear and do what needs doing. other ways i have to motivate or inspire myself are to think of some fun rewards i can give myself, such as manicures or pedicures, which make me feel pampered.

i lost 3 lbs. in the past week. i was a bit nervous about weighing myself this morning since yesterday wasn't my best food choice day, but since i'm trying to stick to my committment here of weigh-in thurs., i bit the bullett and am glad i did. i have been doing well with my regular exercising and getting in enough water too.

the sun is peaking out again, even though there is still some thunder. i have to say it is making me smile looking out at the beautiful lush trees outside my porch.

hi to zadie k, cerise, anagram, punkinseed, eydie, and everyone else here. i hope your afternoon and evening are pleasant. take good care, all.


06-13-2003, 07:15 AM
So nice to back on line-- We are still seeing some problems so I will make this short--
I want to make sure I can get this message to the board!

Thought of the day :

There is often less danger in the things we fear than in the things we desire.

Question of the day:

"Would you prefer to be paid by the week
or by the month? Why?"
--Table Topics

Take care all!

06-13-2003, 07:43 AM
Good Morning All!!
How are you girlies today?

I've been meaning to ask you ladies what your plan of action is for the challenge this time around. Low carb, calorie pincher, etc. Here lately, I've been thinking about going back on a low carb diet. My high fiber 2 weeks has backfired terribly. I gained, and I'm so full of GAS :^: think I could be named my own utility company! It really hurts too. I'm not so much fluffing (as my grandma says) but I'm having really bad gas pains in my lower tummy. Anyone having any success lately on a low carb or on a restricted carb diet? OR ANYTHING!!!!

This weekend is pretty busy (yet again) I just need some rest! I'd like to sleep in for once!

I'm paid by the week and I love it. I feel like I'm rich!! I think I'm better budgeted this way. I was paid monthly before and I felt like I never had any money because everything would go to the bills at once.

06-13-2003, 09:36 AM
Flyby for me this a.m. Had a nice long post going last night, got cut off and lost it despite my best efforts to find a way not to. I'll have to start doing short, serial posts to hopefully prevent that frustration.

Sun shining. Down another .2 from yesterday which was down.2 (only) from week before. But today's was only .2 above the lowest I had seen so far. Struggle, struggle, struggle.


Frogger, I'm just trying to eat in a healthy way that I can do forever, trying to keep calories at or under 1800 but not going nutso if I go a bit above, drinking 8-10 glasses of water and exercising at least 5 days a week. I've been a bit low on fruits/veggies lately and am working to remedy that. I do have frozen yogurt or lite ice cream almost every day (1/2 cup) as part of my calcium intake (I also take supplements) and take a multi-vitamin and one other supplement for my RA (as well as sundry meds).

I'm sure I could lose a bit more by cutting calories more (lots of exercise is not an option for me) but based on past behavior, I'd have quit long ago. I have an occasional Slimfast meal or drink to cut calories a bit lower that day or to fend off what I feel would be a real binge. Knock on something, it's been a while since I've had what I would consider a real binge and I hope those are a part of my past.

More later.

zadie k
06-13-2003, 10:50 AM
Hello all,
Yesterday was not a good eating day for me. I am a calorie and fat counter and I went over on both. At least I did not give up on the day and instead tried to make certain that i would not go far over. So I am learning something.

Arabella - Zadie is actually my middle name, but I use it most of the time. I had heard that white teeth was good, but i probably would not have read it so soon if the author's name was not zadie (grin).

QOD - Well it is hard to say. I am paid on the 5th and 20th of every month which i like becuasse it falls in line with my bills fairly well. I think I would prefer weekly to monthly becuase monthly seems too much like all those years on financial aid for school when I would get near the end of the term and have nothing left becuase that lump sum at the begining that is supposed to last somehow got spent and I would live on ramen and credit cards. I think if I was a better money manager I would like the monthly payment better though.

06-13-2003, 12:36 PM
:dance: It's Friday!! :dance:

Ok crafty women.... does anyone know if you can re-tint paint? I had 2 gallons mixed yesterday for my bedroom and on the little sample dot they put on the lid, it looks right, but on my wall it's got WAY too much red in it.... :?: Way too mauvey, not enough blue (it's supposed to be a soft plum). Or could this mean I need to use a primer on my wall?? The off white doors did turn out a luuuuverly vanilla cream color though... :cool:

Kaylets, I hope your 'puter problems are solved soon!

~ For everyone who keeps loosing posts...
I got tired of trying to remember what I'd writen so I got into the habit of highlighting my post, right clicking and selecting "copy" before I click "send" (which is when I've always lost my posts). That way, if your post gets eaten all you have to do is go back to post again, right click and select "paste". Voila! (that was my Martha Stewart 3FC moment - it's a good thing!)

Frogger, sorry 'bout your, um, problem! I had the same problem once when I went overboard on veggies. My body never got used to it (Dr. said it would, he lied). Currently I'm doing a slightly modified version of Weight Watchers. Modified in the sense that I'm not counting some things that according to WW I should - fruits and veggies, catsup, butter spray, etc. These things didn't make me fat and aren't trigger foods, so I have no problem eating them in moderation with appropriate serving sizes - and I'll never agree with not eating fruits or vegetables because you're out of points to spend.

Anagram! :cb: on the loss! Inching closer, and closer..... There was a WW leader years ago that used to say "you can't loose 50 pounds at once, you loose it a little bit at a time". Here's to more little bits!

Zadie, I think it's a victory when you know exactly how much you're over vs. knowing you've overeaten but have no idea by how much. It means you're paying attention. We're all bound to have bad days now n' then. Brush off the crumbs and carry on sistah!

Q o' the day - It really doesn't matter as long as I get paid! Right now I'm paid every other Tuesday. It's nice because twice a year (July & December) I get 3 paychecks in a month.

I stole a peek at the scale again this morning and it's official. I'm not only in the 220's, but I'm passed my lowest weight in 2 years (228.7 in '01 - this morning 228.5). Official weigh in is Monday, but I'm happy and a bit reflective. I keep thinking "what if I'd stayed on track in '01 - I'd be done by now!" but I can't do that - I've got to think future, not past... and now I can really say I'm healthier than I've been in years!

Onward and downward :cb:

(aka :queen: Punkin o' Friday)

06-13-2003, 07:08 PM
Heavy sigh, heavy sigh....

What IS it about life that it (whatever "it" is) feels the need to just apply even more pressure when you can least handle it??? Un-freakin-believable....

My Mom's cancer has spread passed her breast. They found cells in one of the lymph nodes and quite honestly I'm scared to death - and have spent the better part of the afternoon in tears (some crying with Mom, some after I was finally left alone so I felt I could really loose it). The thought of cells of the variety that they cut from her breast freely floating around her body free to attach and grow wherever they damned well please is beyond frightening - I'm petrified. As afraid as I am for her to go through chemo, I want her in there NOW - and so does her surgeon. The medical oncolgist comes back to work on Monday, so we'll know what's going to happen then. My Mom, bless her, said "well, I guess I'd better get those hats ordered huh?" (in referrance to her loosing her hair soon).
Still though, Mom's a spitfire - and is so mad at the cancer she actually uttered the f-word today. I think it's the first time in my 33 years I've heard it come out of her mouth!

And amazingly enough it just dawned on me how I'm able to focus so much on my weight and health right now (besides the obvious fear of my own future). It's an incredible distraction! And right now I can use all the distraction I can get!

And as if Mom wasn't enough - one of my girlfriends (NOT Bo-Beena - I'd be catatonic if it was) called today to tell me her diagnosis on her recent mammogram. It's breast cancer, a very rare type of sarcoma, about the size of an orange (yes, she's been avoiding the Dr. and very well may pay for it). They say cancer isn't contagious but right now I'm not so sure! (kidding of course).

I've said it once, I'm gonna say it again - check your "girls" and if, God forbid, you find something - please don't wait 9 years to see a Dr.... :dz:


06-13-2003, 08:56 PM
Terri, much love to you and Mom.
I feel like anything encouraging I try to say will just sound lame right now, so I'll just say the obvious: we'll hold you up whenever you need us.
Hey, tell your mom that short hair is very chic, or maybe she'll be mistaken for a Buddhist nun!

Garry and I have had 2 appointments with our therapist, and she told me I was depressed. [Thanks for the news flash.:lol: ] It's true that I've been caught in a negative loop of playing my un-birthday over and over in my head and she told me that everytime I did, I have to have an affirmation to say---so I've been saying it constantly! The phrase that I'm using is the 'tag line' at the bottom of my post and it's VERY powerful!
Remember the difficulties I had [and continue to have] with my co-worker? The therapist told me that when one is under stress for a while it can actually alter your brain chemistry, and the subject of anti-depressants came up, but I'd rather take a holistic approach, so I'm taking 5-HTP, and Sam-E, and St. John's Wort for a while and have decided to forgive Garry. He worships and adores me, I know, he simply spaced out about the importance of my 40th birthday. That's the fact, he wasn't harboring some twisted impulse that made him screw up my birthday [that's the kind of stuff my mind was making up! :o The counselor also told me that when I keep playing the same loop over and over, I could become delusional, and start creating scenarios that are untrue. Scary stuff!] Anyway, I'm feeling more like myself. There's a part of me that's so damned embarrased that I have this in me, but it's been quite an education, and I'm proud that I'm taking care of this aspect of myself.
I went out today and bought myself a birthday present---something lovely and meaningful. I've wanted it for 5 years. A goddess statue, the millenial Gaia. She's beautiful! Wish I knew how to post a pic here!

06-14-2003, 08:25 AM
Hello all!!

Punkin-- I feel like crying too.
You always have us and you can always just
come as you are...
But I do believe that your mom's "fighter Instinct"
will serve her well through out.
My best to you and your mom.

And congrats on the lbs down!

WSW- I can relate to muggy! We had
another rockemsockem t storm last night
and this am the windows are white w/condesation! And yes, thank you for A/C!
Have to go into "tropic mode" and get things done early or late to avoid the hottest part of the
I guess we got what we wanted! The sun's back !

Cerise- You sound so excited about your move closer to home! Big changes like that can
be really motivational too-- I changed jobs a year ago and made some big changes since I was
in "New Habit Mode"-- It really worked for me, just became part of the "new routine" -- joined
a Public Speaking club sponsored by my employer. A year later, I'm really seeing the benefits as
I 've met people from all over the company.
As for the walk at the end of the day- don't you find that once you're out there you really feel so
much better?? Glad to hear your Dad is doing well too!

Wildfire- How does it go w/ DD?? CHIN UP!! This too will pass!

Arabella and Zadie- Books in the car too!! I happened upon some great priced audio cassette books
(you know what I'm going to say next!) a yardsale and am enjoying the first one I chose.
Its a biography of the current Pope. The reader's voice is easy on the ears and the Pope's
life was very eyeopening for me. I recognized Margaret Atwood's name!! My husband and I were
working a state fair and were talking to a vendor near us. I noticed a book she was reading but
we only talked about the book for a few minutes. When the fair ended and we were packing up,
she approached me w/ the book telling me I HAD to read it and pass it along to other women.
Are you familiar w/ the "HandMaiden's Tale"? Everytime I see it a yardsale, I grab it and make sure
another friend reads it.

Frogger- This isnt usually a big problem for me but a couple weeks ago I COULD RELATE.
I ate too many raw carrots ( I guess) and couldn't breathe w/out accompanying noise.
And the big bloat belly was visible!! And I was stuck at work for 3 hrs trying to avoid people!
I have no tips for you but I can sympathasize.
sorry to hear about your cat too-- Its very hard to say goodbye.

STARTING TO SHOW!! how is your garden?? I can only get the weeds to grow in mine!
Did you get Tstorms your way last couple nights?? Wild!

Eydie-- I am so glad you are starting to feel better! I've been thinking about "inner Programming" for awhile too and its SOOO True how we can almost hypnotize ourselves when we are "caught up in the loop". You know we're with you!!


Ooppsss...DH has awaken and its time to leave for yard sales!
Take care all!!

Thought of the day :

"Remember to Live."
Question of the day :

"What is your favorite evening entertainment?"

--Table Topics

06-15-2003, 07:56 AM
Hello all!!

My WW's site was updated Friday night which prompted me to look around to see the "updates". I decided to check the "points"for my favorite black bean veggie burger and was suprised to see it was 3 pts-- Either I never figured the points out correctly in the first place or I'm still using the original pt system from 3 yrs ago. Have decided I have to revisit ALL my food
as this could be the reason I've been maintaining all winter!
Just goes to show you, when you think you've got it all figured out!!

Today's thought of the day is:

Most people give up just when they're about to achieve success. They quit on the one yard line. They give up at the last minute of the game one foot from a winning touchdown.
--Ross Perot
Today's question is:
"Have you ever picked flowers from someone else's garden?"

Have you seen this version ???
People are always on the lookout for a new diet. The trouble with most diets is that you don't get enough to eat (the starvation diet), you don't get enough variation (the liquid diet) or you go broke (the all-meat diet). Consequently, people tend to cheat on their diets, or quit after 3 days. Well, now there's the new Toddler Miracle Diet.

Over the years you may have noticed that most two year olds are trim. Now the formula to their success is available to all in this new diet. You may want to consult your doctor before embarking on this diet, otherwise, you may be seeing him or her afterwards. Good Luck !


Breakfast: One scrambled egg, one piece of toast with grape jelly.

Eat 2 bites of egg, using your fingers; dump the rest on the floor.

Take 1 bite of toast, then smear the jelly over your face and clothes.

Lunch: Four crayons (any color), a handful of potato chips, and a glass of milk.

Take only three sips of the milk, then spill the rest.

Dinner: A dry stick, two pennies and a nickel, four sips of flat Sprite.

Bedtime snack: Throw a piece of toast on the kitchen floor.


Breakfast: Pick up stale toast from kitchen floor and eat it.

Drink half bottle of vanilla extract or one vial of vegetable dye.

Lunch: Half tube of "Pulsating Pink" lipstick and a handful of Purina Dog Chow (any flavor). One ice cube, if desired.

Afternoon snack: Lick an all-day sucker until sticky, take outside, drop in dirt. Retrieve and continue slurping until it is clean again.

Then bring inside and drop on rug.

Dinner: A rock or an uncooked bean, which should be thrust up your left nostril. Pour Grape Kool-Aid over mashed potatoes; eat with spoon.


Breakfast: Two pancakes with plenty of syrup, eat one with fingers, rub in hair. Glass of milk; drink half, stuff other pancake in glass.

After breakfast, pick up yesterdays sucker from rug, lick off fuzz, put it on the cushion of best chair.

Lunch: Three matches, peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Spit several bites onto the floor. Pour glass of milk on table and slurp up.

Dinner: Dish of ice cream, handful of potato chips, some red punch.

Try to laugh some punch through your nose, if possible.


Breakfast: A quarter tube of toothpaste (any flavor), bit of soap, an olive. Pour a glass of milk over bowl of corn flakes, add half a cup of sugar. Once cereal is soggy, drink milk and feed cereal to dog.

Lunch: Eat bread crumbs off kitchen floor and dining room carpet. Find that sucker and finish eating it.

Dinner: A glass of spaghetti and chocolate milk. Leave meatball on plate. Stick of mascara for dessert.


Till later!
I'm healthier than I've been in years and its really starting to show!!

To today's best choices!

06-15-2003, 11:12 PM
Boom! That was me falling off the wagon. Not too badly yesterday but a big crash today. Worth it, I think. First cheesecake in over a year and no real regrets but good thing tomorrow is Fresh Start Monday.

Had a MARVELOUS weekend. DS came and brought with him a new scanner and a whole new computer. The best part,, of course, is that he installed it and customized it, etc. While it was a Father's Day gift from him and his sister, both know that I use this stuff much more than Dad so I'll consider it my birthday, Christmas and just overall "sweet kids" gift. Then we went to the local racetrack last night. We won't discuss the two hour wait for food which then came cold; that was the bad part.

Then DD called from the Bahamas. DH and I feel so blessed to have such loving kids (Wildfire, hold on - the teen years were much rougher).

Today we went for a buffet at a club. Great food, great company, just a great day. After DS left, I took a long nap (brain fried from watching him work), just had two cups of tea and a salad for supper and then heard new computer calling.

Punkin - so hard to hear the news on Mom. But she's a firecracker too and attitude is so important. (That's what the doctors keep saying about dh - it is incredible to picture him now vs six months ago though he's not fully back to where he was.)

I don't think I've mentioned before that my neighbor/friend's daughter-in-law (39 - 7 & 9 yr old kids) had surgery for breast cancer last month and just began her chemo. (I've been holding friend's hand through devastation.) This week she says DIL's feeling well mentally and physically - last week was devastating and probably the end of this week will be again after next chemo treatment. But things are starting to look brighter and hopefully life getting back to "normal" for them and hopefully will soon get to your new "normal" soon as well.

And, yes, I think you can take the paint back and have them add something to it to retint.



06-16-2003, 06:49 AM
Hello all!

Here we go Monday, Here we go!
Here we go Monday, Here we go!
Let's go!

Anagram- You are a lucky girl indeed!! A new computer ! WOW!
How wonderful !
And I am even more excited about your frame of mind!! YOU DESERVE IT!

I too, feel great this am although I could easily call out and enjoy weeding but ......
Today's thought is:
"The only place where your dream becomes impossible is in your own thinking."
Robert H Schuller
Today's question is:
You discover your wonderful one year old child is, becuase of mixup at the hospital, not yours. Would you want to exchange the child to try to correct the mistake?

Take care all!


06-16-2003, 02:55 PM
Monday, Monday, Monday....

I was a complete slug all weekend. They retinted my paint and it was still not right (my fault for rushing the choice I think). So, I threw myself a pity party (I'm the only one who showed up) had a few good cries, watched a really sad movie (WHY? I don't know, but Rabbit Proof Fence was excellent) and then proceeded to talk myself outta my funk (with some help from our Bo-Beena), brush myself off and am my normal (although some would question my ever being "normal") self.

Right now Mom's outside crackin' up talking to a friend - love that - and we're waiting for the medical oncologist and surgeon to have their pow-wow today. Yes, Anagram, I'm very much looking forward to a new "normal" - all this bad news, more surgeries, next steps, now this, now that, is driving us all batty. Mom's saying "enough already, can we just treat this so I can get on with my life???". Amen Momma! I can't believe I'm actually wishing for chemo to start - but we all are!

I'm down 4 pounds this week. I was surprised because it's a pound less than I thought I'd be down (probably all that diuretic watermellon). I feel great and am 2 pounds less than I've been in 4 years. Maybe the good thing to come from all this stress is that in my mind I feel like my weight is the one thing I *can* control right now...
So, this makes it 22 lbs. since 5/16 and 33 lbs. from highest ever. 26.5 pounds to Onderland!!!!! :cb: And "only" 41 to go before I'm considered "overweight" and not obese... :dz:

WSW - Thank you so much for your message. I really do feel your care coming through your posts. :angel:

Eydie - You're depressed??? Hmmmm... :chin: smart counselor! :lol: It sounds like even the one visit has done a world of good. I'd love to see your Gaia!

Kaylets - LOVE the toddler diet! It also sounds a bit like the kitten diet...

Anagram - New 'puter???? :cool: I'd jump off the wagon with you for some cheesecake.... :yes:

Well, guess that's all for me for now... :grouphug: everyone!


zadie k
06-16-2003, 03:12 PM
Down a pound. At work, but leaving soon. Hope all is well with everyone.

Punkinseed - the waiting is always the worst part. chemo sucks, but it is entirely endurable. the worst part is that every time you go back instead of feeling better you feel worse. but if your mother has a postive attitude she will get through it just fine. also there are lots of places that offer free services to people going through chemo (my clinic had a whole list of places that would give free massages and things like that).

Hope the day goes well for y'all.

06-16-2003, 06:19 PM
Hey, Punkin - it was caramel cheesecake. DS was wary of the caramel, tried it, ate very little. I on the other hand thought it perhaps the best I've ever eaten - but maybe that was because I had not had any in at least a year.

Congrats on the great numbers!

06-16-2003, 07:12 PM
:T Mmmmm.... caramel..... :T

Well, we've survived Monday! :dance: Off to do banking, post office, and scout out some evening primrose oil and flax seed oil. I watched a reeeeeally interesting special on the Widsom channel about both these supplements and thought 'can't hurt, might help, why not?'

Then treating myself to Taco Bell for din-din. I used to be able to snarf down 2 bean burritoes, 2 soft tacos n' nachos (blech!). Now, I'm lucky to get in 1 bean burrito and 1 soft taco (and I'm usually pretty full!). I guess your stomach really *does* shrink! :cb:

Later ladies!


Oh, and Zadie, thank you for the encouraging words. I'll let my Mom know to keep an eye out for those massages! She's been mourning my quitting that biz for yeeeears....

06-16-2003, 08:05 PM
Anagram, Enjoy your new toy! Is it one of those with the sexy flat monitor? I love cheesecake and have been toying with the idea of making a lower-fat one. Lots of good recipes in the 'Cooking Light" Annuals.

Punkinseed, 5 more days till the new HP book! Are you getting yours at midnight on the 20th? I am, like a proper geek! I'm so used to reading the HP smut on the internet that when the new book comes out, I'll probably be looking for the dirty parts!:lol:
Sounds like your mom's keeping positive. It makes me think of when I had my cancer MISdiagnosis, I was probably the most peaceful I've ever been---hard to explain. I guess everything is in such sharp focus that you really see what's important and you can let the rest go? I like visualizing her laughing with her friend!

I feel so much better. I don't know what that thing was that was hovering over me like a dark cloud---but the fog has lifted. Was that some sort of mini mid-life thing? I'm ready to get on with it!:D [Or maybe that's the St. John's wort talking.:lol: ]

By the way, I'm doing a modified version of the Body For life Challenge. I'm a week into it---I love the workout part, but the diet part is pretty grim, IMO, so I'm tweaking it quite a bit.

06-17-2003, 07:42 AM
Good Morning All.

They have me strapped to my desk since my helper is out on vacation this week. I am drowning in work. So just a flyby post.

Everything is good here. We are closing on the house the 23rd at 4pm!!! I'm so excited about that!

Anyway, there's work to be done! Love to you all!!!

06-17-2003, 07:49 AM
Hello all!!

Flyby for me too!

Eydie- so glad you feel more like yourself!


Today's thought of the day:

"Some pursue happiness – others create it"
Question of the day :

"Would you like to know the precise date of your death?"-
--The Book of Questions

To the best Tuesday!

06-17-2003, 09:18 AM
Just a note to let you all know I appreciate your support re: DD.

I, too, am doing BFL, day 8 today, and feel better already! I'm concentrating on that more these days, hence the lack of posting.

Punkin, my thoughts are with you and your mom.

06-17-2003, 09:20 AM
hi everyone!

punkin-you and your mom are in my thoughts. it sounds like she has such a great attitude, as does her daughter. attitude really does make a big difference. congrats on the lbs. down! woo-hoo!

anagram-glad you had such a marvelous weekend. have fun with the new computer.

zadie k- congrats on lb. gone!

eydie-glad you're feeling better about things.

frogger-that is exciting about your upcoming house closing!

hi kaylets-happy tuesday. interesting question of the day. "Would you like to know the precise date of your death?"-no, don't think i would. i had a scare a few years ago when it seemed like would have only had months, and it made me do a lot of soul-searching. i was relieved to realize that i had been letting the folks who are closest to me know how i felt about them and that i had also known life is very precious and not to be put off for another, better time. so--- i wouldn't really want or need to know, as long as i can continue to appreciate what i have and not put the important things off.

hi also to arabella, cerise, ceara, scooby, and anyone else i had not previously mentioned. i certainly am thinking about you!

my food was not the greatest the last couple of days, but have kept up with daily exercising and doing pretty well with the water. already think things looking better today-had good op breakfast, wrote it down in my food journal, etc. well, hope you all have a good day. take care, wsw

06-17-2003, 09:50 AM
Another fly-by postie.... Just wanted to say I'm keeping Punkin and Mom in my thoughts and prayers.

Re: knowing the date of my death -- I think I would like to know it, as long as it was WAY WAY off in the future.

Love to all Firecrackers!

06-17-2003, 10:04 AM
Good morning! Good food, water, exercise day yesterday. Hope for same today.

Glad you're feeling better, Eydie. No sexy flat monitor. In fact, no new monitor at all - using one they had given us a few years back. Just new tower and new scanner (which I have not tried yet). Old scanner was also gift from DS.

Sorry about your scare, wsw, but you seem to have your ducks in order. I don't think I'd like to know exact date. As with wsw, recent scare with dh has us once again even more aware of each precious day and being sure things are said so there are no regrets. (Although I've truly tried to be that way for years - there was a prior scare years ago as well.)

Sun is shining for now but rain on way. All of recent storming has put me in a flare of my RA that does not seem to want to leave. Don't want prednisone as that adds pounds but may soon feel there's no choice. No special plans except to make it to the pool for exercise today and to drink that water and make those good choices.


zadie k
06-17-2003, 10:56 AM
I am at work and very tired. I got herre late, but I start an hour before nayone else, so no one knows. Of course I will be honest on my time sheet, but at least I do not feel as though I have inconvienenced anyone.

re: QOD
Hmmm. I guess I would want to know becuase then up till that time I would feel much more free to take risks that I would otherwise be too scared of. "Well, I can jump out of this airplane becuasse I know I am not going to go splat."

06-17-2003, 11:48 AM
:lol: You know you're loosing weight when you accidently wash your capri's in hot water and they fit BETTER! :cb: I did just that this morning. Oops.

It's also time to replace my other 2 pairs - when you can grab two fistfulls of fabric in the butt, it's time for some new clothes!

Eydie, I'm so happy you're feeling better!!!! The only place (Bn'N) staying open till midnight is an hour away(!) so I'll probably wait until the new Michelle Branch CD comes out next Tuesday and go plop down some moola for 'em both at the same time... I still haven't finished re-reading #4 anyway!
Funny you mentioned your mis-diagnosis - I thought of you on Friday of last week - I thought, "it happened to Eydie, why not Mom?" (funny how our brains work, I'm still praying that they've made a mistake!). When they faxed the 2nd pathology report I started skimming it (Granny Pat's been teaching), hoping I'd see something to say that they'd maybe made a mistake - but there was no mistaking "metastasis". Crap. :dz:
Yes, Mom's got an excellent attitude. I know I wouldn't call what she first experienced "peace", but she has had faith from the first moment that she'd live through this. She's been telling everyone "oh, yea, I'm gonna die - but not of THIS and not any time soon".

:wave: Kaylets, frogger, WSW, Arabella and Wildfire! :grouphug: and thank you for your ongoing support... it means so much to me and I feel very cared for. Times like these should prove to all the people who think "online friends" aren't real that you're all much, much more than just words on a computer screen! :yes:

Q o' the Day - That's a hard one. I think I'll say no... I had a 'not quite near death, but damned close enough' experience in '99 when I had an allergic reaction to morphine. I couldn't breathe well and I knew if they didn't do something, soon I wouldn't be able to at all - and I was so at peace! But as much as it wasn't a bad experience, I don't want to know when it's going to happen again. When my lessons here are learned, it's time!

Toodles for now, must remove Gracie from my lap (man, can this kitty sleep!) and get some work done.


06-17-2003, 01:13 PM
Hello, amigas!

Punkin, I'll light a candle for your mother(I'm Episcopalian. That's what we do :lol: ) . I can't say anything much but that I feel deeply for both of you and hope that you'll always have loving friends to share your struggle.

I weighed in on Friday and found that I had lost 1/2 lb last week. I went from 220.8 to 220.3. Good enough for me! I don't care anymore how slowly I'm walking up the mountain, as long as I'm moving.

Ramon was in Seattle all weekend scoping out apartments. He found a sweet one in the downtown area. Small, but bright and good views. We're going to have to go back to a 1-bedroom until he's done with art school. That means serious, serious de-cluttering of our lives. THAT means getting rid of lots of memorabilia and those bloody roller-blades that have been sitting around for years, used twice. We'll be living on a hill in the Big City. No WAY am I roller-blading there!!!:nono: Call me a chicken, but I like my skin where it is, thanks.

Our family has all heard now that we're moving closer to them instead of farther away, and they were a satisfying level of exuberant joy. They like us, they really like us!

Ladies, I swear that I was gonna talk to all of you, but everything I write to you seems a bit...banal this morning. :rolleyes: Trying later. I'm laughing and wincing along with your posts, though, and thinking about you all.

C :love:

06-17-2003, 01:36 PM
anagram-hope your flare of RA gets better as quickly as is possible!

cerise-congrats on that lost 1/2 lb last week!

punkin-that's great that you have to buy new smaller clothes. way to go!

kind of rainy and dreary here today, but the rain is cooling the temp. a bit, so i don't really mind too much at all. take care, wsw.

06-17-2003, 02:27 PM
HI all

Pumpkinseed im so sorry about your mom. IT sucks! *tears run down cheek* All i know is that you were so supportive when my mom was going through her thing. You are so strong ...just like your mom. Its great that you can still have diet success...with such crazyness...KUDOS to u. Your tough your mom!


06-17-2003, 03:45 PM
Hello All of you Wonderful ladies!!!
I haven't forgotten you. Just been painting my house along with other home improvement. Also, Carpal tunnel in hand makes it hard to type. Know that I check in to read all that you have said. I laugh, cry and jump for joy along with you.
I have been fighting the depression bug along with our beloved Punkin, her mom is like my mom. While I know she is strong and she WILL live through this, I don't want her to have to go through it. :cry:

As far as wgt loss, I haven't fallen off the wagon but my feet are dragging:lol: Over the last week, I have not been making the best food choices, however, I continue to work out, drink my water and take my vitamins. I have lost a total of 9 pounds since I began this journey again(may 9, 2003) along with a few inches, so over all, not bad.

Well, must run. Have a great day! :wave:

06-17-2003, 06:47 PM
wsw, good for you for keeping up with exercise, water, etc.!

Anagram, still raining here too. It rained 28 days in May; I just heard that today and it's haunting me. I want to work in the garden, I want to mow the grass, if you can believe that! The house feels 'mushroom-y'. I want to see the sun!

Punkinseed, what a shame that you'll have to buy new clothes....;)

Cerise, congrats on losing that 1/2 pound and the progress on apartment hunting!

Bo-Beena, wow! 9 pounds is alot!

Kaylets, about your question du jour....that's an interesting one. Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't want to know----I'm leaning toward not wanting to know.

Hey, whatever happened to Flower? Anybody know?

I did an upper body workout for 1 hour today! It may just be my fevered imagination but I could swear that I see the first bloom of a cut on my triceps. I've always wanted that!

06-17-2003, 07:12 PM
I guess we haven't cried enough to make *whoever* happy.

Now the kitten's missing - she's been gone for almost 4 hours now. Just gone. We've turned the house upside down, even searched around the house, nothing.

Life is incredibly unfair sometimes. Maybe that's my lesson in all this.

I'll be back when I can post a rational thought.


06-18-2003, 07:39 AM
Hello all!

Have you found the kitten? Have you checked up UNDER sofa's etc--
We thought we lost our dog who wiggeled inbtween the drawers we have under our bed and then fell asleep. Out of sheer desperation, I moved the mattress expecting to find nothing and there she was......

Sheets of rain this am- DH just called from the road warning me I'd need extra time so I must be short.
Thought of the day :

"Being here in the present is a must. It's where we can begin again. Remember the past, but don't stay too long. Your future depends on it."
--- Bob Perks
Question of the day :
"Would you prefer to blind or deaf?"
--- Book of Questions- Gregory Stock, PH.d

Take care all!

4 full days without coffee!

Take care! I'll be trying to look in later!

06-18-2003, 08:16 AM
Punkin, you're right--it's not fair and you guys need a break!
That being said, I'm betting that the kitten is on the premises still. They can squish themselves into little wafers and get into the oddest places. When we moved, one of our cats was freaked out about it, and we found her 4 days later alive and well. She'd just spent some time hanging out in a stack of boards in the basement---a stack, not a jumble. I don't know how she did it.
Good luck. SURELY she's still there and I hope when I see your next post she's back!

Kaylets, gotta think about today's question. That's a hard one!

06-18-2003, 09:24 AM
Oh no, Punkin! I hope you've found the little furball!

Flower pops in over on the Alternachick board. She's got a house full of in-laws and is trying for baby #4! (send girl thoughts!)

:wave: all!

zadie k
06-18-2003, 10:19 AM
Have you found the kitten yet? One of ours went missing once for several hours and we found her in the file cabinet (I do not know how she even got in there, but I opened the drawer out of desperation and there she was sitting in a file). They are very crafty, but when they get hungry they will let you know where they are. Behind the piano, under the bed, inside the boxspring, inside any available box; there are just so many places for them to hide when they want to, but they come out for food.

At any rate, I am not going to work today. Studying. Yuck.

06-18-2003, 12:51 PM
I'll be back to post later...

YES, we found her - or actually, she just showed up. I'd been home for over 1/2 an hour and my Mom called me to say she'd just wandered around the corner into our office like there wasn't a problem in the world.... I have no idea where the little turd was. We lifted all the couches, removed cushions, every stinkin' nook and cranny that could be wriggled into was searched, twice - and she wasn't to be found.
We're all on such short emotional fuses right now, and Mom was devistated after having just lost her other baby in March. I couldn't handle seeing her like that and was just mad at the world for doing this to her.

I couldn't decide whether to choke the little fuzzball this morning or give her a big ol' smooch. (I smooched...)


06-18-2003, 01:08 PM
Oh, PUNKIN!! :spin: :joker: :cb: :cp: :dance: :dancer: :hyper:

God, I was so relieved to hear about your Mom's Gracie showing up again! I told my Ramon about it last night and we just couldn't believe the unfairness of it all. Thank God she's OK...

Oooh, I can feel my exercising urges starting to die off. Honeymoon phase officially over. It's going to take an act of God to get me walking tonight, I fear. No, this can't happen...


06-18-2003, 06:22 PM
Ok, we found miz Gracie's hiding place... :dz:
Ya know on the back of recliners where there's that little hammock of fabric that goes from the bottom of the back, loops down and connects under the seat? Ok, that little piece has fallen low on an old recliner we have here in our office and the little poop climbed in there while my Mom was watching her this morning. Matter of fact, she's there now - but at least we know - 'cuz she's been in there for 3 hours again! Eventually she'll be too big to get in there... *whew*

Cerise, when the honeymoon is over it's time to renew the luuuuv! Come on, bellydance with me!!!! :cb: Congrats on your loss too - I agree, any loss is a good loss!

Anagram, sorry about your bout with RA. Hoping for :flow2: for ya so it feels better!

WSW, rain here too! It's luverly isn't it?? Last night we had an hour long thunder storm too. Oddly enough, the rain and everything smelled so good!

Scoob, thanks for your thoughts! Yes, I remember your Mom too... We've been talking about how stuff like this makes you feel a bit older than your years because of the shift in roles. True huh?

Banana Fanna Bo-Beena! Yes we do share a Mom don't we? She's gonna be ok - I forbid her to be otherwise! ;)
Remeber now, we did install those shoulder harnesses and lap belts into the wagon - please feel free to strap in as necessary - or shall we strap you in??? :devil: I think your "little ol" 9 pounds is awesome too!

Eydie, yea, poor me, poor clothes shoppin' me.... :lol: Gonna' bellydance tonight. First time since Mom was diagnosed. Gonna' swing them hips and shake them, uh, well, nevermind... :o

Kaylets - no coffee???? AAAAck! Good for you!

Q o' the day - I'd go for deaf. I can sign and I don't think I could handle not seeing my friends, family, etc... I'd hope to remember their voices though. I used to live across from 3 young girls all born deaf and used to love visiting with their Mom while they cranked up the music to unGodly levels and danced to the beat.

Zadie, funny you mention the file cabinet - we both checked ours! I would've cracked up if we'd have opened them to find a filed kitty! :lol:

Only new news with the mum is that they've decided on 6 months of chemo - to probably start next week. Yeah! Let's get'ta killing this cancer bug! :mad: I was pretty proud of myself for holding it together this morning while she and I picked out hats from a American Cancer Soc. catalog and discussed shaving her head when her hair starts to fall out. Ug, that was hard - but if she could talk about it so matter of fact - so can I!

On a little "ain't life amazing" note - Mum's friend had a colt born to her "baby" (her favorite horse) last night at midnight - amidst all that thunder, lightning and rain. He's adorable, all legs and we think he should be named Stormy.... (we'll see!)

Toodles ladies!


06-18-2003, 06:46 PM
Punkinseed, good job on finding the pooper's hiding place. :bravo:

My B'Elanna still likes to hide in a pile of scarves in the back of my closet. Once I caught Simone (my other girl kitty) using the tangled wires at the back of the computer desk as a hammock! She was nibbling casually on the mouse wire when I discovered her. Cats.:rolleyes:

Um, I've always thought that if I had to get chemo, not only would I shave my head and swear off wigs, but I'd get a really elegant tattoo somewhere on it, too. Like Linda Evangelista and that gorgeous dragon on the side of her head. Hope that's not making light of your Mom's struggle...I'm just proud of her and your attitudes, and know there's probably more where that came from.:queen: You take that cancer DOWN, Mami!!! ;)

Thanks, too for the encouragement. Belly dancing? Really?


06-18-2003, 10:15 PM
hi all!

punkinseed-so glad the kitty was found and is safe and sound!

i have a ct scan tomorrow at 7:30am! it's just a test for one of my regular 6 month follow-up doc appts. the only reason it bothers me is 'cause it's so early(!!) in the morning and i am not a morning person. oh well! the good news is that it won't be that hot out yet at that wildly early hour.

i guess i should be getting to bed if i plan to get up at the crack of dawn. just wanted to check in and say hi. well, take care, all.

06-19-2003, 07:33 AM
Hello all!!

Some of you might remember some of my thoughts regarding the "Internal commercials" . Those thoughts and ideas that run and rerun in the back of our minds. Just like the song you don't like that gets "stuck in your head".

This morning's email from James Allen discusses the same thing and I thought it worth sharing.

Rob Bremer asks a very important question: "If you had a friend
who talked to you like you sometimes talk to yourself, would you
continue to hang around with that person?"

How about this thought: What would you do to someone if they
talked to your children the way you talk to yourself?

I am constantly amazed at what people say about themselves. I
wince when I hear someone I care about say things like, "I'm so
stupid" or "Sorry, I'm always late," because I know it only
reinforces a deeply held belief (whether it's a conscious or
subconscious belief). I wince even more when I catch myself
saying those kind of things because I know the damage they do.
As F.F. Bosworth said, "A spiritual law that few realize is that
our confessions rule us. What we confess with our lips
dominates our inner being.

In Florida we have an option to have a personalized license
plate on your vehicle. I once saw a lady driving a car with
the license KLUTZ . When I saw it I almost broke out in tears
because I could imagine the pain that lady must feel. So
convinced has she become that she's a klutz, that she has
memorialized it --- it has become who she is. We don't have to
wonder how her life goes -- we know -- she's a klutz about
everything. And she thinks that she's a klutz because she's
always been that way. The truth is, she wasn't born a klutz, so
somewhere along the way something(s) happened to cause her to
start thinking of herself that way. Having repeatedly confessed
it to herself over time it has become a self-fulfilling

What are you telling yourself? What does that little man (or
little woman) on your shoulder say to you? Is that who you
really want to be?

In our phenomenal Conquer Fear Tele-Seminar, Lisa Jimenez taught
a technique that I think has application here. For the next
couple of weeks wear a rubber band on your wrist. Every time
you catch yourself saying something to yourself (or about
yourself) that is not in keeping with who you want to be, stop
whatever you're doing immediately. Then CONFESS the Truth about
you while you're snapping the rubber band on your wrist.

For instance, if you catch yourself saying, "I'm always late,"
stop and say to yourself "I am thankful that I am becoming more
conscious of the importance of being on time, and I am improving
every day" (snap the rubber band). Do it several times to
reinforce the affirmation.

Read the following words everyday until they are ingrained in
your soul. Then you will be diligent about what you say to
yourself. They're from Napoleon Hill, writing in the classic
'Think and Grow Rich': "It is a well-known fact that one comes,
finally, to believe whatever one repeats to one's self, whether
the statement is true or false. If a man repeats a lie over and
over, he will eventually accept the lie as truth."

And that's worth thinking about.

************************************************** *************
From James Allen eMeditation

Think the above has thoughts and questions.....

Looking in the mirror and it looks like the stair climbing is starting to define some muscles in...
( I was suprised too!) MY WAISTLINE!!

6 full days without coffee -- and 2 whole days w/ only 1 pc of bubble gum....
I'm Healthier than I've been in years and its really starting to show!!

Take care all!

PS-- Punkin-- so glad Gracie was only playing hide and seek!

06-19-2003, 09:38 AM
Good Morning Firecrackers!

I'm doing pretty well, but have been spending weekends looking after nephews, got extra assignments and had DGS over. Plus getting in extra exercise. All of this means -- I'm swamped and exhausted! So I need to limit my computer time to work, try to get a little rest if poss. :rolleyes: Likely. :yes:

I don't have time to address each of you (wish I did - I'm really thinking of you all and LOVE reading all your posts), but I just want to say how much you all mean to me. What a wonderful group of women! And as our :queen: Punkin says, online friends are REAL! So much wisdom, support, love, and energy!

The quest for Independence continues - let's make this a great day. Love to all! :grouphug:

06-19-2003, 10:20 AM
Punkinseed, so happy that Gracie's back!:D

Kaylets, loved today's 'mediatation'. Thanks!

Arabella, thanks for checking in with us. I miss you when you're not around.

Cerise, LOVE your energy. You're an asset to our little group. [And I highly recommend belly dancing too----but only if you want to feel like a goddess.;) ]

Good morning, wsw, BoBeena, Anagram, Zadie, Scooby, and everyone else!:)

Anyone have juicy plans for the weekend?

06-19-2003, 11:50 AM
Happy Friday eve everyone!

Is it just me or has it been a long week? Tuesday I was talking about something that'd happened on Monday and referred to it as "a few days ago".... :dz: It's the week that will never end! :yikes:

Doing good on food this week, but exercise still hasn't kicked in (just feeling blah). Yesterday I had 10 yards of red cinder delivered (a 4 ft. high pile!) so my exercise will be lining up border rocks around the front and sides of my house and shoveling cinder around inside the borders. I do believe that counts as exercise! :yes: My stepfather told me to use the tractor - it was hard to explain that I *wanted* to use my muscles to do this.

Cerise, you're not out of line at all! Although the first thing I thought of when you said that was the movie Blow Dry (with Alan Rickman - big shock that I've seen it :devil: ) - that girl had a huge crown-like tattoo on her head! Mom's not a wig girl, but she did tell me to let our hairdresser know what's going on when I get my hair cut this Friday and to tell her she wants to play with the color when her hair starts growing back (she said *really* red this time!). We have discussed a tattoo for the marks they make to define the radiation site - they use a permanent skin marker type of thing that lasts for a few months and some people just go out and get a tattoo. I'm working on her.... :devil:
And no kidding! Bellydancing! Eydie introduced me to it and it's so much fun and doesn't even seem like exercise!

WSW, good luck with the CAT scan. Sorry about the hour - I've been getting up at 5am for so long I even do it on the weekends... :rolleyes: Sounds like the perfect day for a nap though!

Kaylets :bravo: on the coffee victory! I neeeeeed my coffee on weekends (2 cups before breakfast, then water).
And muscles? Go you! :strong:

Gracie wants to say "hi" - fffffffffffffffffffffffn 6666666,mm fbvvvvvjp;;
(yes that's her walking on my keyboard - she likes the spacebar)

Eydie, juicy plans.... :chin: Yard work, a long bath, :crossed: that it does rain like they're promising, try to finish Harry Potter #4 so I can start the new book, eh, not so juicy, but it'll keep me outta trouble!

Time to skeedaddle!


zadie k
06-19-2003, 11:57 AM
Back at work today. All is going well. I ate like a champ yesterday, despite temptation (the lure of peanuts). And I bought some pants whcih fit. I also finally made a doctor apointment (I am 6 months behind on doing that and have three years left of remission so it is very important).

My freind adpoted two beagle/dachsund mixes. they are very cute, but they were abused by the old owner and are very shy. They are starting to warm up to people but not quite there yet.

Last night was high stress. We live in an ok neghborhood, but it part of teh urban core and has its share of problems. One problem is that there are a ton of kids who are between 10 and 14 who have no where to go. So, beucasee we live on a corner and have a retaining wall they have taken to hanging out by our house. It would not be a problem generally speaking except that they pick the flowers from the garden, scare the cats, set off fire crackers and are really loud. Plus I do not think they are kind to the snakes in our garden, Last night we told them they had to leave, but I think they will come back. Plus I do not want them to vandalise our house, and at the same time they are just bored kids and I do not want them to get into trouble with the police or anything.

At any rate, we shall see if they show up today.

06-19-2003, 02:03 PM
Aha, the lovely Boylen sisters!!!!! :cool:

Just kidding, it's you guys. Wonderful ladies.

Zadie's a nice ladie. Feeling poetic today. Really, Zades, you are marvelous for feeling concern for those poor bored kids! These are times when you wonder about society. Where's the money going that could be used for building cool hang-out places for kids who deserve a break. Good for you both for standing up to them and feeling concern for them.

Eydie, am I ever dim. You and I have the same birthday!

Wait, no, taking Kaylets' message to heart. Ahem. "I am NOT dim. I missed some important information about a friend, but I'm getting more observant every day." Oh, that's lovely, thank you Kaylets!! :lol: Really, though, I'm going to look for my own mantra to say to myself. And I AM going to do the rubber-band thing. Oh, yeah. You RULE. :p

Anyway...we have the same birthday!!! :gift: I guess it doesn't matter that much, except that I still wish I could've stepped in somehow and made your birthday a-MA-zing. May babies are groovy. :smug:

I'm going to seriously look into belly dancing. God knows I have the belly. I'd LOVE to feel like a goddess. And I think that might help work out the stiffness in one of my hips.

I can't get over how much weight the ladies on this thread have lost! I really think it's because (partly, of course) of the support we lend one another. I'm so glad to have tapped this Goldmine of Neato. I feel like I can do anything if I just stay checking in here.

Punkin, where is Terrebonne, anyway? You know, don't you, that Terrebonne is French for "good earth"? Something like that. Of course you know. French-speakers are insufferable. :snooty: Good on ya for moving all of that...cinder (what IS that?) yourself.

I weigh in tomorrow (gulp). :halfempty: No one likes to lose weight slowly, but my losing it a little at a time HAS to be OK, you know? If I quit now because it's probably going to take years, not months to get fit, that does no good, does it? I mean, in three years I could've lost everything or I could be as big (or bigger) than I am now. I just have to keep on and be patient.

Yes, I DID walk yesterday. Unfortunately, for some unknown reason my calves and shins cramp up TERRIBLY on the walk and I sort of limp along. Owie, owie, owie. The only good thing I can see about it is that it starts later and later into my walk with every day. Maybe it'll go away altogether soon. Any thoughts from the Pantheon of Goddesses? :queen: :queen: :queen: :queen:

Wuvies and kissies,

P.S. I can't wait to get my face back. I have that classic "fat girl" face - pudgy cheeks, double chin and worst of all, my eyes have gotten piggy! I have really beautiful eyes - my best asset. Got to zap the eye fat. I'm gonna blink a lot today...

I'm still damned gorgeous, though!!!!!!

06-19-2003, 04:11 PM
It's Friday eve and I'm not workin'! :p

Zadie, that is very kind of you to worry about those kids - I admit I probably would've had them quit hanging in front of my house a long time ago... Hopefully they'll understand and find somewere else.
I bet your friend's pups are cute! I'm sure they'll come around soon. We had an adopted coon hound that was abused and it took her time, but she did open up.

Cerise, the only advice this goddess can come up with is icing your shins, it could be shin splints... and maybe stretching out your calves real good after you've walked a bit would help too.

Oui, mon ami, Terrebonne does mean "good earth". Kinda strange though since nothing else has even a hint of foreign influence or naming - it's pretty redneck 'round here. It's all named after people or native americans (it took me weeks to remember how to pronounce Ochoco correctly).
Anywho, Terrebonne (pop. 6,000'ish) is almost smack dab in the middle of the state (high desert). I'm about 10 miles further west in Crooked River Ranch (pop. 4,000 when the snowbirds are home, 2-3,000 when they're gone) - a little offshoot of Terrebonne, but we're too small to get our own zip code so we use Terrebonne... :lol:
It was some culture shock going from San Francisco bay area to this! :fr:

Oh yea, and cinder is what most people commonly refer to as "red rock" - red volcanic pumice stones, 'bout + or - 3/4 inch in diameter. For whatever the reason, quite possibly the volcanic state of mind 'round here with the 7 or so volcanoes visible in the Cascade Range, the locals call it cinder instead (I grew up calling it red rock) - but ya know, when in Rome.... :D

Hi ho, hi ho, back to pretending to work I go!

(polishing my tiara for tomarrow)

06-20-2003, 07:44 AM
A me post I'm afraid-- and I'm bragging too_-

A great NonScaleVictory!!!

I am really starting to see results with my stairclimbing !!
The first time up the stairs, I am carrying pocketbook, water, and lunch.
Then I put them down, went back down the stairs and felt lighter than air "jogging" up them. So I said, "Ok, once more"-- Coming up the third flight the third time, I knew that would be the last time, I felt that familiar "burn" BUT..... what really made me understand I CAN CROSS MY LEGS AND THEY STAY CROSSED!! I have short legs and would cross them and they'd slide and become uncomfortable. I'm not recommending crossing your legs, mind you but it sure is nice to know I can.
Thought of the day :

'Objects we ardently pursue bring little happiness when gained;
most of our pleasures come from unexpected sources.'
--Herbert Spencer
Question of the day :

"What has been your biggest disappointment ?"
--The Book of Questions, Gregory Stock, Ph.D


Take care all!

I'm healthier than I've been in years and its really starting to show!!

06-20-2003, 09:20 AM
Kaylets, LOL! Me too, leg crossing! I can cross to one side, but not as well to the other. And even though I know it's not the greatest thing for one's circulation, lower back and etc., I fear that once I'm really able again, I'll be flinging my shapely legs to and fro with mad abandon!

Re: thought of the day, I have noticed that same thing with worry, that most of the devastating stuff comes out of the blue, while most of the stuff I worry about doesn't ever happen. Moral is, natch, forget worrying. :yes:

QOD: I guess my biggest disappointment was either not having more children, or not getting into grad school to become a therapist. Sigh.

Punkin, thanks for your description of where you live. I love hearing about it - sounds really exotic and interesting to me. Your life seems really neat! I admire your mom (and her daughter) so much for the way she's handling her situation. I remember a study in Psych. that found that the fighters had HUGELY better odds of beating cancer. Glad Gracie showed up!

Cerise, happy WAY belated! Wow, you and our lovely Eydie on the same day? What sort of a fantabulous conjunction of the planets must that be!

Zadie, hope your problems with the kids are a thing of the past. So hard to know how best to handle these things. We used to live in a similar area, with a retaining wall handily between the bars and the park, where people would stop for chats outside our bedroom window. :rolleyes:

Eydie, I am definitely gonna check out the belly dancing thing. I SO want to be a goddess!!! :yes: How are you feeling these days? Damn moods! I'm struggling back to the surface. Had a fight with DH this morning (actually translates as "he pitches hissy fit over next-to-nothing while I try to avoid fight") and was able to become philosophical and recover fairly well. Thus not ruining my whole day, feeling like the sky was falling. I told him that I think he needs to stop getting so upset for his own good. :smug:

wsw, hope your early rising wasn't too disturbing. I get up about 5:30 every morning, but I'd like to alter my schedule a bit. We get up early so we can exercise together before DH goes to work.

Wildfire, :queen: of Cape Breton, how are you doing? How's the shakedown in DD's wake? I hope that works out for you. The stress of stuff with our kids is the worst! I hope you're getting some Wildfire time...

Anagram, I checked out the Arcona Reel Band - pretty neat stuff! I have the same musical heritage as our Wildfire. Love the fiddle!

Frogger, how's newlywed life going? I wish you continued happiness!

Well, I'm off to look after the nephews again this evening. Have a wonderful weekend, Firecrackers mentioned and unmentioned. And our beloved Empress, if she lurketh... Let's be SPECTACULAR! :flow1:

06-20-2003, 11:14 AM
Finally, fab Friday....

The week that seemed it would never end is finally over! :cb:

Hopped on the elliptical last night for 15 minutes. I had to giggle because after a few minutes my pulse was still in the low 120's - a few months ago after the same length of time it would be in the high 140's. I AM getting healthier!!!! I would've stayed on longer but my toes started to bother me (Morton's neuroma, it gets better as I get smaller though!) so I got off and did some stretching. Isn't it odd that we're more limber on our "handedness" side? I'm a lefty and I can put my nose on my left leg while stretching - but not my right.... :chin:

Kaylets, that is an awesome NSV! I can just imagine the flailing legs now! I think that jogging up those stairs is total proof that, in fact, YOU'RE HEALTHIER THAN YOU'VE BEEN IN YEARS!!!! :strong:

Arabella, I'm going to take your advice to heart regarding the Q o' the day - just forget worrying. Because you're right, the worst imaginings are rarely the problem, it's the stuff that sneeks up on you that gets ya'!

My biggest disappointment???? That's hard.... I guess I'm rarely disappointed. Well, my brother did tell me something about an old habit of his that I thought he'd quit years ago and it turns out he didn't. That broke my heart really. Other than that I guess my biggest disappointment is that I don't get to see my friends as much as I'd like to.

Toodles for now!
(aka :queen: Punkin o' Friday - and I do declarith it FRIDAY!!!) :cb:

06-20-2003, 01:37 PM
Good mornin' all you wonderful "losers":)

I am sooo happy it is friday. This was the first week of summer vacation for my 12 year old DD. Am already ready to tie her up and put her in the closet! She is at that very ungrateful time, where even the things we do for her that are fun are an inconvience to her, She isn't the :queen: yet!!! Oh well. . .

Friday is my wgh day, maintained this week. I didn't expect to lose, TOM + DD stress = eat what I want. NOT a good thing. However, I will take a NO GUILT card and be proud that I did workout 3x this week.

Cerise, I am going to concur with Punkin, you need to stretch your legs. I would say before you start your walk, during and after, see if that helps, it can't hurt! I am very proud of your determination. Keep it up!

I wanna belly dance too, I want to feel like a goddess!! We will all be belly dancin' goddess!! :D :dance:

Way to go on all those NSV I keep reading about. Kalyets, kudos to you. It is cool when you see those muscles shinin' through. And Arabella, you fling those legs!!

Thank you ladies for being here, I haven't been posting a lot lately but I pop in and read. I remember someone saying that when they were having a food craving they would come read to get their mind off of it. This week I didn't do that and boy did it show on :devil: scale.

Hello to everyone I missed, sorry fingers are tingling, time to stop typing, damn CTS.
Happy Friday!

zadie k
06-20-2003, 02:27 PM
Hello All,
The kid problem is still therre but it has gotten a bit better. Now they understand that they cannot hang out on our wall. The only problem is that they need to turn down the volume a bit. However, they are pretty respectful when we go out and talk to them. I talked to the person at the neighborhood organization and she said therre is really not much out there for kids that age, but she would talk to the folks at the salvation army down the street becuase they keep an eye out for bored kids and try to get them into activities. So, maybe it will help. I also heard a parent out there last night who was none too happy with the noise level after 10pm. So hopefully it is all under control.

Shin pain: Back when I ran I used to have some issues with shin pain. Turned out that the main problem was that my shoes did not fit the right way for my stride. Tricky stuff becuase you never know if therer will be a problem till after you wear the shoes for a workout.

Biggest Dissapointment: Not really certain. Possibly it was when I discovered a couple of moths ago that my credit was not very good. I was so upset becuase I could not get my loan for studying for the bar exam. It has all turned out ok as far as the bar studying, and I am now working on fixing the credit. It helps not to be in school raching up more debt. Just paid off one of my credit cards today and I am very proud.

Congratulations to everyone for making it through another week.

06-20-2003, 06:56 PM
hi everyone!

i did make it on time to my appt. yesterday (verrry early morning-for me!) i was there at 7:30am and didn't get to leave until 12:30pm, so it was a long time to be stuck at the hospital. i have veins that are very hard to find, so it was no surprise they had trouble drawing blood and putting in the i.v., but i think even for me, this was some kind of record. it took many different folks who tried and then my b.p. got pretty low on top of that, blah, blah, blah, and they didn't want me driving myself home and made me lie down for a while before they would even let me leave, so i had to have a friend pick me up. he came over as soon as the nurse called him and he stayed with me for the hour and a half before they would allow me to leave. everyone couldn't have been nicer, though, and my friend dropped everything at work when called and when he brought me home, got me crackers and gingerale, and got me all set up safely and comfortably at home before he left. i slept the rest of the day and evening and feel much better today. my arms are black and blue after having been a human pin cushion, but i'm very glad i didn't end up having to stay one second longer than i did at the hospital. another friend took me to pick up my car today at the hospital, and i'm happy to have my wheels back again too. my appetite seems to be back again today in full force. probably in my whole life, sadly (lol!), there have been very few times when i have lost my appetite. oh well!

i did weigh in this morning and i am up 2 lbs. from last week. oops-wrong direction! i am so hoping that is from holding water, because i have been op recently, but not sure. anyway, i have been op today and will get my exercise in this evening.

i am looking at the beautiful, sunny view outside my porch with all the lush trees. the foliage really does look beautiful after all this recent rain. well, i hope everyone has a great weekend. i'm thinking of you. take care, all.

06-21-2003, 07:16 AM
Hello all!

Just found this in my inbox and thought it was too good not to share. I'm interested to hear your reaction.

Maybe it's because I am headed to the ocean tomorrow for a well deserved get away.

Maybe these words spoke to me that way.

Maybe it's because it was meant to be. You know how I feel about such things. But God spent a great deal of time and effort to get my attention for this one. Oh, I know He could do it in a blink. I mean if He really wants me to do or see something, consider it done. But He also made me human with all my faults and contrasting greatness.

Yes, I said greatness.

If that smells of ego, then perhaps it is time you acknowledge that you are great, too. How could something that God created be considered anything
less? Wake up, my friend, to the greatness within you and the world opens wide simply because you will begin to see the greatness in others.

But all of that has nothing to do with my discovery today.

If you have read my stories for any length of time, you know very well that I struggle with "good-byes." Not just final good-byes through death or life changes, but even simple good-byes to an audience I have just spoken with.

I feel so very connected to my audience, because in giving of myself I get so much more in return.

So it is a challenge for me to find a purpose in having to say goodbye at any time.

Today I stumbled upon a written piece that spoke to me in ways that screamed divine intervention. I had no intention of even looking on those shelves in the office and yet, I did.

I had no time to sort through all the papers and files that were thrown there. Yet, I made the time.

There it was. So perfect an explanation. I read this and felt good about "goodbye." Well, maybe not good, but better.

I read this and thought "It makes me feel less sorry for myself and happy for the person leaving or someone I am leaving behind."

Although this piece speaks of death, it applies to any form of goodbye.

Sending the kids to college away from home.

A good friend moving away.

A change in employment.

The loss of a pet.

So what is this magic piece?

Why am I making a big deal out of finding it?

Well, you see, I read it for the first time today and yet, I have seen it everyday for the past three months. It was right there in front of me hanging on the wall in a beautiful frame and in God's perfect timing He chose for me to really see it, feel it, accept it...today.

I know what it did for me. But I believe that there is someone on this list, maybe several, who really need to read this and accept it.

Perhaps many of you will read it and say, "That's nice."

Some will say, "Oh, Bob, I've read that before."

Or "I don't get it!"

This was meant for me and those who needed it today.

Don't worry. Words will awaken your spirit one day and the answer you have been looking for will be there, too.

It is a part of the "coming and going" of life.

Henry Scott Holland wrote:

"I am standing on the seashore. A ship spreads her white sails to the morning breeze and starts for the ocean. I stand watching her until she fades on the horizon, and someone at my side says, "She is gone."

Gone where? The loss of sight is in me, not in her. Just at the moment when someone says, "She is gone," there are others who are watching her coming. Other voices take up the glad shout, "Here she comes," and that is dying."

Do you see it? I have always focused on the loss...mine. But in the losing there is gain. For in saying goodbye, others get to say hello.

"I believe in you!"
Bob Perks

06-21-2003, 12:22 PM
Good morning! It is morning, right?:dz: :dz: :dz: We got home at 3:00 last night [or this morning] after going out for the Harry Potter Midnight book sale. :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: What a scene that was---it was great fun and I'm glad we went. Over a thousand people in a Barnes and Noble just milling around waiting, and drinking coffee! Yes, I wore my witches hat, like a proper freak!
It's going to be long day--it always takes me a while to get back into the rhythm of things after my sleep pattern has been torqued around like that.

Arabella, I'm feeling a zillion times better, thanks for asking!:) That was quite an education for me! There's a marvelous book titled "Your Depression Map" by Randy Paterson--I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to understand any type of depression.

I'm doing a modified version of the 'Body For Life' program, and one aspect of it is having a 'free day'--that is, one day a week where you eat whatever you want, as much as you want. Well, I had my first free day yesterday and it wasn't as much fun as you'd think! I don't know....

Love you all, and I want to respond to everyone, but I'm afraid I don't have it in me right now. Need more sleep, I think!:o

06-21-2003, 08:35 PM
hi everyone!

eydie-sounds like it was fun at b&n waiting for harry potter book. i had been wondering what it was like in a bookstore as the new book was "unveiled."

nice relaxing saturday and the weather was very cooperative too. hope everyone has a pleasant remainder of the weekend. take care, all.

06-23-2003, 07:32 AM
I have an opportunity to meet Susan Powter tonight! [Remember her? "Stop the Insanity" and all that?] She's at a book signing fairly close to where I live. She had a big influence on me getting started on my weight loss, so I'm really excited about it. What will I say? Actually, she'll probably do most of the talking!:lol:

I'll let you know all about it. Oooh, maybe I'll have a picture to show!

06-23-2003, 07:46 AM
Hello all!

Yes, I remember Susan Powter! -- And I agree, she made me question a lot food/excercise ideas. Tell her I said hi!

Big test today, I am not feeling prepared. We'll see.....
Family issues again too. One of those situations where the iceberg's been hiding the worst of it underneath the water.

June 23---
Today's Thought of the Day :

"Today can be your masterpiece."
---Mike Brescia
"Does living as though you control your own destiny lead you to a more powerful life? " -
---Book of Questions--Gregory Stock, Ph.d

Take care all!

06-23-2003, 09:07 AM
Good Morning, Lovelies!

I've just returned from a weekend looking after nephews. Woke up with a cold on Saturday. That was the only unbearable day though. I feel well enough to carry on today. I really seem to get sick more often than I should, and the only reasons I can think of are stress and overweight. I think that binges are hard on the immune system and health in general, both from putting too much stress on the digestive system and because the foods one binges on don't tend to be healthy. It's a long time since I had what I would call an actual binge. And I think having been regularly going to tai chi again has started to reduce my stress level, but some things seem to push me over the edge. Last week it was a frantic last minute assignment, and then DH pitching a hissy fit. Enough for me. But I've got to find a way to deal with these things, because both of them come up from time to time. :rolleyes: Sorry for the me-me-meness. I'm going to do some work, and then maybe I can drop in later to address my sparkly friends.

Have a wonder-ful day! Love to all...

zadie k
06-23-2003, 12:39 PM
Hello All,
I also picked up the Harry Potter book at midnight on Friday. Still reading becuasse I had a party to go to on Saturday and I had to study on Sunday and today work, doctor apointment and more studying. Plus on eof the kitties is sick. AARRGG!!!

I have behaved very well despite the insanity. Kept op even on the day that I did not really mean to.

I vaguely remember Susan Powter. I had a friend who was simply facinated. At the time she was on tv all the time I did not have a tv, so I remain imune to her powers.

At any rate, Back to work.

06-23-2003, 12:59 PM
Monday madness!!!! :spin:

I keep telling myself, that this time next week it'll only be a 4 day work week! :cb:
The family's been trying to talk me in to driving to CA for a family visit next weekend - I had to tell them "no, sorry" - I don't even like driving into town on a 3 day weekend - never mind 500+ miles to CA!!!! :no: :nono: :no:

Down a pound this week - it was 2 pounds on Saturday morning, but 2 days of shoveling red rock and no water equals sore achey muscles and a pretty dehydrated Punkin! So I sacrificed a pound to the puffies... :dance: (no not *that* kind of puffies, the kind that'll go away in a day or two!).
It really dawned on me this weekend that the 2-teens are just a week or two away! :fr:

It was exciting to see a number on the scale that I haven't seen since early '99 though - but I have a good reason to get off that number (forgive me for my psycho moment here). In '99 my Grandma died on 2/24 and I remember that week's weigh in - I weighed 224. So, the faster I get to 223, the better... :rolleyes:
Stupid, I know, indulge me....

WSW, it sounds like you have a wonderful friend! To wait with you, take you home and get you all situated - very sweet indeed. Glad that day's over!

Arabella - sorry you're sick. Hope you enjoyed your visit with the little germ mongerers, uh, sorry, I mean nephews! ;)
I agree with you too about the binging being hard on your immune system. I've really taken to heart lately the saying "you are what you eat". How can we build a healthy body, healthy cells (and that includes the immune system!) if we're feeding it poor fuel to build from? Makes sense to me!

Kaylets, your quote from Holland made me cry. Then I copied it over to my collection of quotes. I've always believed our goodbyes are someone else's hello's - but I've never heard it put so elloquently. Sorry to hear about the family iceberg... Take care of you.

Eydie - Aaaaaaw maaaaan! I was invited to the Bn'N 'Harry Happy Hour' and just couldn't stay up! I'm up at 5am and by 9pm I'm falling asleep. Our Bn'N is an hour away so there's no way I would've made it and been safe driving.... It did sound like fun though - I'm picking up my copy tomarrow! :cb: I'll be avoiding any and all spoilers until then... :sssh:
Say "HI" to Susan Powter for me too! :wave: She was a *huge* influence on my life in the mid-90's. Because of her I didn't eat milk, chicken or beef for about a month when her book "Food" came out! :lol: I enjoy her a lot and miss her in the weight loss world.

We found out that on Wednesday Mom's going to have her case reviewed by a "tumor board". Very awesome since it involves bringing in every oncologist and cancer specialist in the area to look at her entire breast history and discuss treatment. Since her case is "interesting" (no history, no markers, oddly invasive cancer, strange receptor outcomes, the couple of grains of cancer in 1 lymph node) they want to "study" her case. I love the idea of having 25 Dr.s having a pow-wow all about my Mom. The more heads, the better!

Nothin' else much for me. It's "take care of me" time since Mom's going to be starting chemo next week. I'm mentally, emotionally and physically preparing myself to have to take on a little more work. I'll feel much better about all of this once we know what her reaction to chemo is going to be. It's the last "unknown" in this whole freaky life episode.

So, lots of hot baths, hard, physical and gratifying work on the house and funny movies are on the list of "things to do". :bravo:

Till later,

06-23-2003, 08:50 PM
hi everyone!

punkin-congrats on being down a pound this week! sounds like you have a good "prescription" for taking good care of yourself in preparation for taking on more work and emotionally dealing with the start of your mom's chemo next week. good for you!

arabella-hope your cold leaves quickly!

hi also to kaylets, eydie, anagram, zadie k, and everyone else here! i'm doing better op today than in past few days-doing more of what i need to in order to take better care of myself and with a better attitude too. temps went back to normal heat/humidity today, so got out early this am to avoid the worst of it. well, have a good evening, all. take care.

06-24-2003, 07:33 AM
Good Morning, Firecrackers!

Still ailing, but don't have that sort-of global horrible feeling. I'm okay mentally and spiritually. I've got to find a way to keep from letting DH's pissy moods affect me so much. I think maybe a set of tai chi might do it. Yesterday he was beside himself because DH had left his bike in the dining room. I agree, not the place for it, but not enough to warrant a hissy fit, IMO. I think it's alcohol. He quit drinking a few years ago and was transformed into a happier, calmer, less cranky person. He's trying to drink less, so maybe things will improve.

In any case, I have to deal with how it affects me, because sometimes I feel like he's sucking all the joy out of me. And I need it back!

wsw, I'm with you! Let's make a pact to do what we need to do to make ourselves feel as well as we possibly can!

Punkin, I am simply in awe :eek: You are doing so fantastic - you're going to be in Onederland in no time! I'm in the same situation as you, time-wise. Always up early and fading early. I'd love to be able to stay up later, especially in the summer. I used to love summer nights, but now I'm usually asleep before dark :rolleyes:

Kaylets, hope your test went well, and that the family situation is not troubling you too much. I love your "iceberg" metaphor. Sometimes I feel like I'm expending a lot of psychic energy keeping those damned things (mostly) submerged.

"Does living as though you control your own destiny lead you to a more powerful life? " -
---Book of Questions--Gregory Stock, Ph.d

ABSOLUTELY! There's nothing in the world that I believe more fully than this. I think one of the things that holds us back more than just about anything is our failure to take control. Hey --- just remembered --- see signature! Thanks, Kaylets! :)

Weighty question though. Free will vs. destiny. I've thought about it a lot and what I think is: There is a pattern, a way things are meant to go (think of the natural world and how intricately everything is choreographed to work together), but that because of free will we sometimes choose not to follow that plan.

Eydie, great to see you feeling so much better. Depression is such a slippery thing. I find that I read over the criteria and usually don't meet enough of them to really qualify, but definitely I have some down periods. Again, I really believe that control is key. I think that there's a point where I decide against taking control of some issue, become passive, and -- voila! Depression. Conversely, when I make the effort to control what I can, I start to feel a lot better. But why must I learn this over and over and over :shrug:

Zadie, I'm sort of immune to Susan Powter. :fright: She scares me!

To all Firecrackers, mentioned or unmentioned: Let's make this a good one. Love!

06-24-2003, 07:35 AM
Hello all!!

Yesterday was a crash and burn day as far as points goes-- I had little or no sleep the night before, got some very upsetting news at 6:15 am, and my company was having a bake sale as a fund raiser. I stayed away from the bake sale but then, when it was all over, some folks started sharing and........

A few things were lucious but it was kind of sad how some things just weren't as tasty as they looked. (some hit the wastebasket after a bite or two)--

So--- I am back on track today-- I had a day of allowing someone else to control my life AND as somelse's signature line says-- "If food is not the problem---- then food is not the answer."
I have had about 14 hrs of sleep and feel much, much better physically and mentally too.

Thought of the day:


A friend of mine opened his wife's underwear drawer and picked up a silk paper wrapped package:

"This, - he said - isn't any ordinary package."

He unwrapped the box and stared at both the silk paper and the box.

"She got this the first time we went to New York, 8 or 9 years ago. She has never put it on. Was saving it for a special occasion.
Well, I guess this is it. He got near the bed and placed the gift box next to the other clothings he was taking to the funeral house, his wife had just died. He turned to me and said:

"Never save something for a special occasion. Every day in your life is a special occasion".
I still think those words changed my life.

Now I read more and clean less.

I sit on the porch without worrying about anything.

I spend more time with my family, and less at work.
I understood that life should be a source of experience to be lived up to, not survived through. I no longer keep anything. I use crystal glasses every day. I'll wear new clothes to go to the supermarket, if i feel like it.

I don't save my special perfume for special occasions, I use it whenever I want to. The words "Someday..." and "One Day..." are fading away from my dictionary. If it's worth seeing, listening or doing, I want to see, listen or do it now. I don't know what my friend's wife would have done if she knew she wouldn't be there the next morning, this nobody can tell. I think she might have called her relatives and closest friends.
She might call old friends to make peace over past quarrels. I'd like to think she would go out for Chinese, her favourite food. It's these small things that I would regret not doing, if I knew my time had come.

I would regret it, because I would no longer see the friends I would meet, letters... letters that i wanted to write "One of this days".
I would regret and feel sad, because I didn't say to my brothers and sons, not times enough at least, how much I love them.
Now, I try not to delay, postpone or keep anything that could bring laughter and joy into our lives.
And, on each morning, I say to myself that this could be a special day.
Each day, each hour, each minute, is special.
If you got this, it's because someone cares for you and because, probably, there's someone you care about.
If you're too busy to send this out to other people and you say to yourself that you will send it "One of these days", remember that "One day" is far away... or might never come...

Question of the day:

" What can you make special about today?"


Hope eveyone is well---
I miss you all when I can't get here more than once a day!

06-24-2003, 07:54 AM
Hello Ladies!!

You are now looking at the proud owner of one 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom, 4 ceiling fanned, fireplaced den, and walkout deck homeowner!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YIPPEE!!:dance:
So now that we're completly broke for the next 30 years, this should help the diet along right? LOL Looks like boxed mac and cheese and ramen noodles for a while.

Just had to share!

Take care everyone! Busy at work today :dizzy: (isn't it always like this?) Check back later!

06-24-2003, 08:47 AM
I'm off to work, and I don't have time to respond to evryone personally, But I'm paying attention, I know what's happening and I really do care.

I gotta throw a congrats out to Frogger tho---buying a house is a HUGE milestone!

About Susan Powter: Garry and I drove 1 1/2 hours to get to the bookstore; I was so excited that I was going to get to meet her----and after waiting with a small [but appreciative] group for 40 minutes the store manager came over and told us that she wasn't going to make it because he had given her the wrong directions and there was no way she could backtrack in time. I was so pissed at him!!! 1 1/2 hours! She's stopping by the bookstore this morning to just sign the books, and I'm sure he'll have his *** chewed good and proper then!
So that's the anticlimactic end to that story---I was so disappointed! :( Wah!

06-24-2003, 10:08 AM
Frogger, huge congrats on your new house. It sounds fabulous! May it bring you great joy!

"She's stopping by the bookstore this morning to just sign the books, and I'm sure he'll have his *** chewed good and proper then!"

ROTFL! I bet you're right! :D Boy, did HE pick the wrong gal to mess with!

zadie k
06-24-2003, 11:27 AM
Fist of all, congratulations on the house Frogger! Remember, even though the payments are scary now, they stay the same even if there is inflation, so it all works out ok. That has been my mantra since we bought our house two years ago and it is just comming to fruition.

I ahve officially been in remission for 2 1/2 years. Had the apointment yesterday and it is all looking good. (gigantic sigh of relief)

I am at work now and it is going ok. I am tired but that is not too unusual, especially since I was up late studying. The coffee shop was pretty empty last night becuase a lot of the regulars are AA members and they all had meeting last night.

I am really sorry about Susan Powter. That is a long drive.

Today at work I think I am going to try and find some justification for reading the two new afirmative action supreme court cases. I am one of about a billion law students signed on to an amicus brief in support of the law school admission policy that was upheld.

Well, back to work.

06-24-2003, 11:51 AM

Isn't it summer?? I woke up to a temperature of 32 degrees this morning - my heater kicked on! :dz: Yeah, I love the high desert - freezing in the morning, and 90 during the day...

Didn't eat enough yesterday, and no exercise (1 1/2 hour phone call with our Bo-Beena - blame her! :devil: ). Yesterday was only Monday though and I will get my exercise in this week!

WSW, I'd love to send you some of our cool weather! I seem to remember you being in Florida??? I thought of you the other day when I heard about the flooding that happened recently down there - donno' why, you're probably nowhere near there! :lol:

Arabella, I'm sure you're right that it'll get better. Everyone I've known that's given up something they enjoy for their own good has had a good case of the crankies. Look at it from our perspective, I don't know anyone trying to give up their favorite foods that's "happy" about it! :lol:
Oh, and yes, I feel like I'm about 8 years old going to bed when it's still light out! My Dad thinks I'm odd kid because I've told him to not call me past 9pm during the work week (retirement must be nice!).

Kaylets, sorry to hear about your bad news. Honestly though, it sounds like you still handled it pretty well. You threw out things that weren't tasty?? That deserves kudos - since when does taste have anything to do with eating to make yourself feel better???? You did something good! :bravo:

Frogger - :cb: Congratulations homeowner!!!!! :cb: (and welcome back, you were missed!)

Eydie - Oh, yea they're gonna get an earful from Ms. Powter! That bites that you didn't get to meet her... hopefully she'll show up again. She's done a few women's conferences in Portland and I've been tempted to go see her. :chin:

Q o' the day - What can I do to make today special?
I think making a point of laughing everyday, talking to at least 1 person you care about (I owe 2 people phone calls today!), and seeing *today* as a day to be enjoyed - to LIVE this day regardless of what's going on.
I've wished away so much of the last 4 years. Saying things like "I can't wait until my divorce is over.... I can't wait for next weekend, I wish it would be _____ (insert date here)", and now "I can't wait for Mom's stuff to be over with". Of course the ultimate is not doing things because of my weight (thinking I'll do this, that, or some other thing someday when I'm thin).
So what happens to all the days in between? If you don't live them, you loose them. To make today special I'm going to live it. :yes:

Ok, that's as deep as I'm gonna get today!

Toodles for now,

06-24-2003, 11:58 AM
Zadie, this is the 2nd time I've posted at the same time as you and missed your message! :lol: I second your thoughts to Frogger on the house payments - scary, but they don't change (most, like mine, actually even go down after 5 years) *and* you get that itsy tax break!

Wonderful news about your Dr.'s appointment! I must've missed it though, may I ask what you're in remission from?

Terri :wave:

zadie k
06-24-2003, 01:18 PM
Terri - It must be a common habit that makes us post at the same time - get to work, check boards for a while, post message.

I am in remission for cervical cancer. I know I have mentioned it somewhere, but I do not know if it was on this thread.

Re: house - forgot about that tax break. Very nice. Depending on the size of the mortgage, the interest rate and your income it can be a huge tax break, especially in the first ten years when it feels like all you are paying is interest.

I am torn between needing to get a bunch done today becuase next week is my last week at work for a whole month, and not really waning to get too invested in any project becuasse next week is my last week at work for a whole month.

06-24-2003, 01:20 PM
Zadie, WTG on your continuing remission! :bravo: :hat: :balloons: :grouphug:

Punkin, I WISH the problem was that he was cranky because of cutting down on his drinking. He's still drinking copious amounts on the weekend and trying to keep to a double G&T or two or a few glasses of wine through the week. It's really only when he's not drinking at all that I've seen things get better, but I haven't really seen him drink moderately enough to know what that would be like. He doesn''t get plastered, but drinks a lot. I'm feeding him nutritional yeast, because I know that alcohol depletes B vitamins that we need to control stress levels.

06-24-2003, 04:45 PM
Arabella, I'm sorry, I must've misread your post... You're very smart to find your way of dealing, and to take care of you - find your joy. I really think it's what keeps us going in hard times.
Ok, so he's got no legit reason for being pissy then.... pass 'em around the thread and we'll have a little talkie with him! (hang in there ok?)

Zadie - :cb: Congrats again on the results... I'd wondered about the comment you made about "massages at your clinic" when we were discussing my Mom and chemo (knowing you were in an attorney's office) - now I know, you'd be in the know! (ya know?)
And yes, it sounds like we do have similar habits - 'cept mine is done West coast time! I'm in at 6:30 pacific time, download email, skim some, read some, go to the newest posts on the thread.... tomarrow I'll pause for a cup of coffee and maybe see your post! :lol:

Hi ho, hi ho....


06-24-2003, 08:59 PM
hi all!

frogger-congratulations on your new home! that is very exciting. i hope you will be very happy there.

Eydie-sorry it didn't work out for you to see/meet Susan Powter-and especially after that long drive!

zadie k- so glad your results were good at your doctor's appt.!

i'm in nc, punkin. very hot and humid here.

hi also to arabella, kaylets, and all. i have been making better food choices more and more lately, which i'm glad about. hope everyone has a ood evening. thinking of you. take care.

06-24-2003, 11:08 PM
Good evening, Sparklers! Flare seems to be easing and hopefully I'll be keeping more current. Lots went on while I was away.

Doubled meds have brought back my appetite. I've been able so far to avoid the prednisone so as not to eat like mad but forgot that just the meds seem to do it. It's really only been yesterday and today that I seem to want to eat a horse so hopefully I have not done too much damage yet. I seem to have lost motivation. Hope it comes back with a bang. Really not long left on this challenge.

06-25-2003, 07:33 AM
We're having a heat wave! Don't remember the next verse but its true! And just Sunday I was wearing a sweat shirt! Here we go!

Realized by midday yesterday, I was not as "in contol" as I thought-- A stress full situation happened at work and I really overreacted. And hit the candy dish too. And then, was so exhausted an hour or so later. Today is A FRESH START.

Anagram- How frustrating that the meds you need are increasing your appetite!!

Frogger- That was just a joke about the ramen noodles and macaroni right??? - and the house sounds lovely!! Are there gardens too??

Arabella- Been there, luckily, it changed but there were many dark moments. At the worst, it didnt matter if I left or not. Luckily,
one morning's hangover must have hurt more than all the others and that was the end. We all have to make our own decisions -- we all know how much we will allow.

To everyone I didnt mention- Hello, how are you, congrats on lbs down, and bravo to us all!

Thought of the day:

"You are what you repeatedly do,"

Question of the day:

"Is having a sense of humor the same as being funny?"
-- Table Topics

Take care all! Got to get to the postoffice !

06-25-2003, 07:47 AM
Yeesh. I was just finishing off a message and stupidly hit the back arrow to look for other messages I wanted to reply to. Wish I wouldn't do that!

I'm still ailing here and planning to get even more focused on health. Life is hard enough without getting sick at the drop of a hat.

Love to all -- Let's make this a good day!

zadie k
06-25-2003, 11:09 AM
We had monster storms last night. Now, I generally lik rain and it helps me sleep, but not when it is leaking in arround the air conditioner. We also have some issues with out chimney that we put in for the woodstove if the rain is the super hard sideways rain.

There are some things that we have control of and some things that we do not. The difficult part is figuring out which is which and concentrating on the things that we can control. I think that is one of the appeals of changing your lifestyle: you can take control and know it is in your hands.

So...I have a full deck of guilt free cards for all takers becuase yesterday is now the past and today is a new begining.

QOD: Very different. I think that someone who is funny can make people laugh, while someone who has a sense of humor can recognize that something is funny, but cannot necessarily convey humor to others. Plus there are some funny people who cannot recognize the humor in life, while there are some people with a sense of humor who can find the core irony of any situation.

06-25-2003, 11:55 AM
Wonderful Wednesday!

My exercise for the next couple'a weeks is painting. I found my bedroom color, my bathroom color and 3 colors that I want to sponge on to one wall in my front room (then paint the other walls one of the colors that's been sponged). I still have a mountain of red rock to finish dispursing too.... :spin:

I bought a new Tanita scale last night. My old one weighs in .5 increments and whole body fat percentages. The new one weighs in .2 increments and .1 in body fat. Turns out my old scale is right on for the weight, but was registering about 2% high for my body fat. :cb: I *am* shrinking! The $70 is worth the extra motivation it's already given me!

Has anyone thought about the next challenge? The 4th is a week from this Friday!!!! :cb:
The next logical chunk o' time is Labor Day (Sept. 1st) which is 8 weeks. Or, does anyone else know of any other holiday - no matter how obscure - that we could aim for?? I checked earthcalendar.net and found:
8/10 Family Day (US)
8/11 Hero's Day (Zimbabwe)
8/18 Discover Day (Canada)

What's next Firecrackers?? :dance:

Arabella, I hope you're feeling better soon. Nothing's worse than the weather turning summery and feeling like poop.

Anagram, I'm glad the flare is easing. You have my sympathies on the prednisone! They put me on it in '99 to temporarily stop a cluster headache and by the end of the week I was ready to sleep in front of the fridge! Stepfather's still on it too for his RA - it makes him a bit bear'ish at times. Hang in there!

:grouphug: to everyone!

Anyone ever hear from Dollar anymore???? :?:

Q o' the day - I agree with Zadie, humor and being funny are two different things. I think she said it perfectly so I'll just say "yea, what she said". :lol:


06-25-2003, 12:06 PM
Ditto for me -- Zadie said it! I would just add that my favorites are people who are both funny and have a sense of humor!

Zadie, I like rain too. Love to watch lightning storms! My sisters and I used to run right out and dance around when we had torrential downfalls. However, it takes on a whole different effect when it won't stay outside where it belongs....

Kaylets, I didn't see you sneak in there! I wish my DH would get hangovers the way I do. I would feel like total crap if I drank as much as he does. Sometimes 3 glasses of wine makes me feel horrible the next day. One of a good number of reasons that I drink moderately.

Punkin, Labor Day sounds good to me. I like 8 weeks as a chunk of time. Man - you are just flying, too! Imagine where you're going to be by then :D

zadie k
06-25-2003, 08:44 PM
I agree that Labor day sounds like a good date.

06-25-2003, 10:47 PM
Hi girls,

Holy crow it's hot here! 40 celsius with the humidity! Been like this all week, too.

My computer died. I'm using hubby's, and he's not liking the whole sharing aspect of it. He's gone to bed to sulk for the night.

Anyway, just stopped to wave hello :wave: and say keep up the good work!

06-26-2003, 07:22 AM
Sort-of a long weekend coming up, in that DH is off for 4 days and there'll be no 5-30ish wake-up. I really like to ease into my days, don't so much mind waking up early - in fact I like to be up by myself for an hour before anyone else gets up. But I don't like to rush out soon after I roll out of bed. My dad used to get up at 5 and sit and drink coffee and smoke for an hour before he had to do anything. Sometimes he'd haul a kitchen chair out to the yard and sit watching his garden grow. It's a nice kind of me-time while things are still quiet.

:queen: Punkin o' Friday - I meant to tell you how much your response to the "how can I make this day special" resonated. Beautiful! I go back and reread it, because it's so true and powerful.

Kaylets, I'm so glad your situation (DH drinking too much) changed. I do have hope that mine will too. He is making an effort not to drink as much and starting to talk about getting involved with things - starting some writing projects and getting in touch with friends and so on. I think a big part of the problem is that he just comes home from work, stressed from his day, and is in the habit of drinking to relax. If he had something compelling to do in the evening, I think it would really help.

Ok, Firecrackers :flame: Let's get out there and make this a good one! Love to all!

06-26-2003, 07:29 AM
Hello all!!

Am glad its morning and the slate is clean!!
Short story-- Out of control--

Please pass the FRESH START Cards-- I 'm polishing up my NO GUILT Card too...
But I am determined that today will be more in control-- can't make it calmer but perhaps I can react better....
Today's thought is:
It doesn't matter what your aim, there is nothing you can't do if you just begin.
-- Mike Brescia
Today's question is:

If you could pick any name you'd like other than your own, which would it be and why??
-- Table Topics

Take care all!

06-26-2003, 07:56 AM
Good Morning!!!

Going today to get my new tires. I got a great deal at TiresPlus. They're on the web.

Yes, a week from Friday is the countdown to the 4th. I'm afraid with all the stress of the house I won't make my goal of 10lbs. I haven't even lost one yet!! Bummer.

Started walking again yesterday after lunch. Dog hot, but the stroll felt good. AND I wasn't starving like I usually am around 2 or 3pm. I did have a few veggie flavored crackers when I got home at 5:30 because I felt a little shakie. Dinner wasn't that great chicken hotdogs (I don't eat the beef ones, only chicken or turkey) and oven fries. But it was good.
Tonight I'm making quesadillas. Just tortillas and cheese but baked in the oven topped with salsa. SO Yummy.

Plan on walking again today.

Hope everyone is OK. I'll be back on later!

06-26-2003, 08:04 AM
"If you could pick any name you'd like other than your own, which would it be and why??
-- Table Topics"

I like my own name. My first name is after my mom's favorite soap opera character Amanda Cory (?) on Another World or some show. And my middle name is Grace who was my great grandmother. She lived to be 101. She was tickled to have a someone named after her.

06-26-2003, 09:36 AM
Hi, Rockets! Yesterday was a sort of good Fresh Start for me except no real exercise (too darn hot!). But overall I was satisfied.

Punkin - still sending best vibes to you and Mom. Kaylets, sorry you're so stressed, hang in and feel our support. Arabella, sounds really difficult and not sure it's something I could handle very well. Much loved Dad relieved his stress similarly and I can still see fallout in the family that I think is related. Although fortunately no one else seems to have selected that particular stress reliever. I think we've all chosen food (Dad liked that too).

zadie, how marvelous you're in remission. Facing the bar must seem easy compared to facing cancer. Frogger, how great to have a house that size to start out. I remember how HUGE our $142 mortgage payment seemed when we moved to this house years ago. And what a great time (ratewise) to pick up a mortgage.

wsw, I'm borrowing your term "technical difficulties" for a while though things are better by loads. And Wildfire, I'm acutely aware of that "sharing" hissy thing. I know this new computer is technically DHs but I hate to have him touch it (he messes things up even more than I do). But I can't really have a hissy about it.

Punkin, has stepdad ever tried the supplement MSM for his RA? I have been doing better and able to get off some nasty stuff since I've been on that. Old duh forgot to increase that when I increased the other med and didn't really start improving until I remembered I was on such a low dose of it. I know it doesn't help everyone (as is usual) but for me, it's been a blessing. I heard about it when the late James Coburn was relating the story of his bout with RA and how it helped him. Fortunately my MD has an open minded approach and said go for it and see as it wouldn't HURT anything if it didn't work. It was only after I was off some of the heavy meds (and had my two new knees) that I felt I could tackle the weight problem. And a lot (but surely not all) of my weight I do attribute to the meds and inability to move.

Anyway, I relate to the "find your joy" message. I think JOY is one of the most powerful words right there with love. My favorite piece of music is ODE TO JOY (Beethoven's 9th, I think). DS teases me constantly with little joy, joy, joy comments but I think he's glad to have a mother who thinks that way rather than the opposite. And this a.m. I was up early and out on the patio for breakfast and a read while DH slept in. Will head out again for a second cup of green now.

Forgive the length - it's been a while.

06-26-2003, 09:42 AM
Just used Punkin's "copy" hint to save above post after I was cut off. Whew! would never have been able to remember all that.

Few more - Labor Day's fine with me but I also like Hero's Day (since we are that as well). At one point I had lost a lb on this challenge but suspect that's gone and several more came back with it. Today's "official" weigh in but I'm tempted to skip.

I like my name well enough though it's long with my long last name (it's a double name). I've never liked to be called by just the first part - it's the name of both my Mom and DHs Mom and also my Dear Dad always insisted on both. Family uses a nickname and DH uses a different one. I've suggested people could call me by second part but that has never worked for some reason (at one point early on, I didn't like that either as Dad had sister with that part - both named for his Grandmother and one of my Mom's. And yes, I think big difference in being funny and sense of humor. I don't think I'm funny at all but like to think I have a sense of humor (esp. irony).
Anyway, off before my tea cools and this post gets as long as the last.

zadie k
06-26-2003, 10:54 AM
I am sitting at my desk with my pedometer in my pocket thinking that sitting at the desk is not going to make the numbers go up, and what a shame that is.

I could see hero's day as a viable option as well. It is easier for me to conceptualize short term goals.

I agreee about wanting to get up a process for awhile before actually haveing to start the day. I would love to do that, but for some reason I never get up till the very last minute.

QOD: never really wanted a different name. Will not even change my last name, at least not unless we both change our names to something totally different. I have a professor who did that. However, my boyfriend is named Leif Erickson, so it would really be a shame if he changed his last name.

06-26-2003, 12:04 PM
Happy Friday eve! :cb:

Yesterday was a good day - my wonderful stepdad put up my screen door so now I can leave my front door open! Then, FedEx showed up with the two 63" cat towers my Mom and I bought on EBay a couple weeks ago - and he put them together for us. My 3 girls were beyond happy playing in, on and around their new toy last night. :cool:

Mums finds out today how the tumor board meeting went yesterday. :crossed: for no more surgery and we can start treatment!

Arabella, I love the early me-time too. Weekends I'm still up around 6am (darned internal alarm clock!) but I enjoy watching the sunrise, reading my paper and having some time to be a slug before getting to my weekend projects!

Wildfire - I'm glad you checked in, I was starting to wonder where you disappeared to! Hope your computer's feeling better soon (tell hubby to share nice until then).

Kaylets, here ya go.... (virtually handing over freshly printed cards). The Fresh Start cards have an expiration date of "as soon as possible" and the No Guilt cards can be used at any time... ;)

Frogger - Actually, hot dog din-din is one of my favorite 'I don't really feel like cooking' meals! :dizzy: A couple freezer fries, an ear of corn.... voila! Gourmet cuisine! :lol: (gee, can't tell I was raised by my Dad huh? Poor-boys, TV dinners and frozen burritoes were considered eating good!)

Anagram, what is MSM? I know he's been on a small dose of prednisone for awhile (it also helps with his colitis) and he's tried Vioxx (worked for awhile) and has been looking at coral calcium and a few other supplements. I just started taking flax seed oil and I've heard it's supposed to help with RA too, but I haven't looked in to it yet. I know he'd be willing to try anything - except quitting smoking - which is probably the one thing that *would* make him feel better on a few different fronts. :dz:

Zadie, your boyfriend's name is Leif Erickson? Whatta kick! Was he named after the explorer or a descendant?

Q o' the Day - I'd stick with my name too. I'm named after one of my Mom's best friends in highschool (Teresa) - I wish I'd met her though. My middle name is from my paternal grandmother (Elizabeth) who died before I was born. If I *had* to pick another name, I'd choose my middle name, I like it a lot and if I ever had a daughter she'd be an Elizabeth too.

Today.... buying paint for my bedroom :spin: and tonight attending a going away "party" of sorts for my Mom's and my Dr. She's quitting her practice to teach at our local university. We'll miss her, but if she can reproduce herself in some of her students it'll be well worth it! She's a great lady and an awesome doctor...

Toodles for now,


06-26-2003, 01:29 PM
G'Morning, Sparkly ladies!

Ah, I've been a naughty girl, totally wussed out on my exercise in the last week, and caught myself not checking in HERE as a result. Classic behavior.

I blame Harry Potter. I've been reading the 5th book and have gotten NO housework and NO exercise done at all. Now the book's finished (whimper) and I feel sort of spaced-out. And guilty. Drat.

I know part of my exercise problem is that it's currently painful, but I also firmly believe that I need to keep at it until my muscles accustom themselves to walking fast.

So, hand me a "fresh start" card, someone. I can't stop struggling. I always feel worse about being overweight when I'm not actually doing anything about it.

Thanks for your support and stories, ladies. I've been keeping close tabs on all of you. Frogger especially, good on ya for getting such a wonderful-sounding house!

Gotta go, lots of work today, but thanks for being here, you guys. Sometimes you're literally the only thing that keeps me trying to get fit.


zadie k
06-26-2003, 02:14 PM
Cersie - wasn't the book great? I loved it. I want the next one to come out tomorow, or next month. Adn yet I am certain that it will be at least another two years and more likely another three years. So I guess I will just have to reread!

Congrats on the new cat towner Punkinseed. Keep them occupied with towers and they will reward you with amazingly cute behaviour.

I do not know the actual rationale behind Leif's name. Aparently he came very close to being naamed Thor. Lets just say there is a little bit of Norwegian in the family.

06-26-2003, 08:02 PM
Having another good day so far. Hope you're all sharing.

MSM is something very long but the S is for sulphur. It's easily available like in Wal-Mart, etc. Maybe there was something to that old sulphur and molasses thing in the springtime? You'd find it with the glucosamine and in some cases available in combo with that.

Went to the pool for a good hourlong workout today. Ate lunch, fell asleep for a looong nap. I'm going to get back to more pool work as I really think it helps me. Weight is not good but I am feeling less hippy all the time. Slacks getting more loose again - or do I have an active imagination?

06-27-2003, 07:21 AM
Hello all!!

Cannot believe next weekend we'll be at July 4!!

Time just seems to go by faster and faster.

Today's thought is:

"It's not enough to reach for the brass ring, you must enjoy the merryground ride," Julie Andrews.

Today's question is:
"Your house, containing everything you own, catches fire; after saving your loved ones and your pets, you have time to safely make a final dash to save any one item. What would it be?"
Book of Questions-- Gregory Stock,Ph.d

DH is not working today to start getting yard sale ready so I am out the door for early start.

Anyone else noticing their workouts suddenly got harder?? I learned the hard way a while back that the heat makes is a enormous factor when excercising. I learned the hard way to listen to my body.

Take care!

06-27-2003, 07:50 AM
Good morning Firecrackers!

NSV this a.m. - my capri pants from last year finally wore out (well, they were second-hand to start with) and I tossed them. But then had only long pants to wear. In desperation, I remembered another second-hand pair of capris I'd gotten. I had to move a chair to get into the closet and was thinking, "Why am I even bothering when I know they are going to be too tight?" They were tight last year, which is why I wore out the other pair. I was thinking that I was heavier than last summer. I even had visions of not being able to pull them up :eek: To my surprise, though, I got into them -- and while they are snug, they are not uncomfortable and look okay. All hail the Goddess Lycra! :D

Thanks, Kaylets! :) You are such a constant source of inspiration!
Time does seem to go faster and faster. I think the only way to make it slow down a little is to really pay attention. Woke up this morning with that nasty old End-o-month feeling. Like there would be no enjoyment of life until I got to the other side. Then I thought, "No. Today's the day!" Whatever is going on, today is what we've got and we'd better live it. :yes:

I guess I would save my bed. 200 years old, traveled from Virginia to Missouri by covered wagon in 1855, then to Toronto about a hundred years later, and now to me on PEI.

Punkin, hooray for your screen door! Wanna send DSD up this way? Yesterday was 30 (about 86 fahrenheit) and humid. Probably about 35 in my study. Iiiiiiiiii'm meeeeeeellllltiiiiiing (if only!)

Name: I would take "Arabella" I think. My real name is Ivy, and I like that pretty well although I wasn't crazy about it as a kid. Too different!

Anagram, glad you're feeling better. And less hippy, too :D

Zadie, Leif Erikson! What a great name, esp. for a boyfriend! I worked with a guy called Erik Viking once...

Cerise, this is a great spot for support, isn't it! Sometimes I feel like I'm always trying to lose weight, but sometimes I'm REALLY trying...

Love to all! Let's make this a good one! :flame:

06-27-2003, 09:16 AM
Good morning. Ooh, Wood Nymph, I like the name Ivy (name of a good friend of Mom's who was a war bride from England and is the sweetest soul) but I think Arabella really suits you. I've been thinking since yesterday and can't think of any other name that seems to suit me but what I have. Maybe Patricia, my chosen confirmation name or Suz, what DH calls me. But no big light bulb.

On saving from fire, first would probably be a folder with financial info that I have (but seldom update) for just such purpose. Only because it would make life so much easier (and I'm SO practical). Then it would be as many pictures, albums, family videos as I could muster, I think.

I sort of faced this in a less immediate situation when we evacuated during Three Mile Island. Even the pictures didn't seem as important as I had thought (some could be replaced by family and friends). I finally did take with me two Hummel figurines; there really was no room to take them all but I made room in the suitcase for those and a couple of antique rings that gave me pleasure.

But today's a better day, supposed to be less humid, and we're off for one of my best antidepressants. Heading to DDs today to play with the princesses again. Back tomorrow.

zadie k
06-27-2003, 11:10 AM
Eeek. Yesterday was not my best. Ok with the calories, but way over on the fat grams. It was the cheese that really did it to me. O well, today I know I will eat properly, and yesterday I resisted the temptation to give up writing things down once I knew I went over.

I ahve no idea what I would save. Maybe my passport? My favorite thing in the house is the woodstove, but it is not portable. Maybe the rocking chair?

Today it is nice and cool out. The high is only supposed to get to about 70F. Actually this is just the way I like it. If it does not rain I will study outside.

I agree with everyone that time is moving super fast. Maybe after the bar I can slow it down a bit.

So my sister is trying to decide on baby names (not yet pregnant, but she is an over achiever). Her girls name is chosen and everyone agrees (it is my first name, Margaret), but they are stuck on boys names. Her husband is very into old school names (as in Roland and Clarence, both of which he loves and she thinks indicate that their child will become a paste addict) and hates modern names (thank goodness there will be no soap opera names). So any ideas? They can't use John (long story).

At any rate, I am off to get some work done.

06-27-2003, 11:43 AM
Zadie, I think -- since this is all hypothetical -- you can take your woodstove. Enjoy!

One of my favorite boy's names is Frank. It's my ex-DH's name, so I don't often get the opportunity to recommend it, but I really like it. Not the name of a paste-eater, i don't think...

06-27-2003, 12:41 PM
Hey Zadie I was named after a girl on a soap opera!!!!!!!!! :^:

But anyhoo-We've already picked out our baby names as well. (guess we're over achievers too!!:D ) Have had them picked out a long time.
Jayna Robyn and Brandon Gabriel.

Ok back to work...

06-27-2003, 01:00 PM
:cb: Friday!! :cb:

I've been at work almost 3 hours and I haven't lifted a finger.... I feel a little guilty, but I figure next week, Mom's probably starting chemo (find out this afternoon for sure) and next week I'll be making up for my laaazy bones today. Besides, I'm the office manager and I say I've earned it! :lol:

Started painting my room last night (sleeping in paint fumes made for some interesting dreams) and the color is purdy! It's a soft sage or mossy color.

Anagram, thanks for the MSM info. I'll pass along the information!

Arabella - yes, all hail the Goddess of Lycra! Very cool about getting into the capris. :yes:

Cerise, glad you're back. Harry will be to blame for my lack of work next week (just got book last night). Thank you for the good reviews Cerise and Zadie too - one of my best friends said it was "ok" but Harry got on her nerves... :dz: I had to tell her like 5 times - NO SPOILERS!!!!!!

Zadie, you could give it a positive spin and be thankful that you went over in fat grams on something like cheese, which has at least some nutritional value - better than eating junk!

As for names, I like Sam as an old fashioned boy name. With my last name it would *never* work though. We also have (or had) a Marshall, Everett and Hayden in our family which are all old names that I like too. My Dad's middle name is Dewey - I'd avoid that name like the plague - even *I* teased my Dad about it! :lol:

Today's goal - drink that water!!! I've been so dehydrated....

Happy weekend everyone! :dance:
( :queen: Punkin o' Friday now declares it Friday and insists you all dance)

06-27-2003, 01:22 PM
Whoo Hooo!! I went shopping this morning, on my first day off of five! :dancer: Hit Northern Reflections, which I love, love, love, and came out with two pairs of crop pants, two pairs of shorts, and four t-shirts! Everything I bought was buy one, get one half price. I'm all set for the next couple of months...just have to buy some new sandals for work. Luckily I can wear shorts, tees and sandals to my office. What a great way to spend the morning! I was out at 7:30 for a car appointment, so I've been on the go since 6am....on my day off!

This afternoon is going to be a major cleaning day to get it all out of the way so I can enjoy my extended weekend. Grocery shopping at some point today, too.

For anyone expecting babies, PLEASE tell them not use trendy spellings...they may look neat, but that poor kid will have to spell his/her name for people for his/her ENTIRE life! Take it from me...I have an unusual name and rarely get called by the proper name and have to spell it all the time. It's a right pain in the ***! Your child will have many ways to express that they are unique individuals. Don't curse them with unusual spellings!:soap:

Arabella, congrats on the capris! What a pleasant discovery! I rather like the name Ivy.

Frogger, congrats on the house!

Punkin, you tell your Mom she's got a bunch of us with her when she goes for her chemo. I'm the one on her shoulder with a sharp little pitchfork, ready to poke anyone who doesn't treat her properly! Still sending good vibes... :goodvibes

Must get at the cleaning while I'm still enthused....that cleaning vibe can wear off so quickly!

06-27-2003, 03:19 PM
Just wanted to fly in and say that Susan Powter is going to be in a town only 30 min. away tonight and we're going to try it again. Very excited!

Ack! No time---but I have to say that I adore your full name, Arabella. When I first heard it I had visions of a clever British detective, with a wild side of course!

I'm listening to the new HP on audio and am loving it--and I'm with Terri---NO SPOILERS!

Wildfire, how's BFL going? I'm still doing it, but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. "Free day" is a nightmare, I don't like it strangely enough!

I'd love the name 'Chalice' for myself. One of my favorite symbols and I'd love to be a worthy vessel!!!
If I could save one thing from the fire, I'd go for my new goddess statue who's now enthroned on a bed of moss. Lovely...

Enjoy your day w/ the princesses, Anagram!

Hi Zadie, Bo-Beena, Frogger, wsw, Kaylets, Cerise, Scooby and all! I'll let you know how things go with Miss Powter!

06-27-2003, 04:09 PM
Cool Eydie! Say "hey" to Susan for us!

Have you considered calling ahead to make sure she was given good directions?? :lol:

Can't wait to hear how it was.


06-27-2003, 06:32 PM
Hello, ladies!

Ahhh, I LOVE the name Ivy, Arabella! You're so lucky! :lucky:

My real name is Cerissa (sounds like Teresa, Punkin!:wave: ). Unfortunately, people mispronounce it a lot and one person actually told me that the pronounciation is phonetically incorrect due to the spelling. Puh-LEEZ. :mad: "Cerissa" seems a bit girly and prissy to me, though, so I ask people to call me "Cerise". If I could change my name, which I don't really want to do, mind you, I would call myself "Soleil", pronounced "so-LAY", which means "sun" in French. :flow2: Goes with my personality, either cheerful and light or about to scorch your behind. :flame:

Weigh-in today. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna like what I see (major pigging on Veggie Booty this week), but there are two things I have to keep doing no matter how badly the fitness process goes: I have to keep weighing in and keep checking in here. That way, I can see all of you struggling and encouraging and succeeding, and if I let myself go to pot, well, at least I'll force myself to watch my downward :faint: spiral on a scale. Or upward spiral, I should say. :rolleyes: Nah. I'm just going to keep :snail: along. I'll get it right eventually.

So, love to you all and have a wonderful weekend. Mine involves a lot of church. If I don't check in Monday come and get me. I'll be asleep in one of the pews. :dz:

Lovies to you dovies.

06-27-2003, 06:35 PM
Oh, yeah, and I LOVED the new Harry Potter!!!!! I got a bit depressed after it was finished, really. How pathetic, but I don't care. Enjoy, my girls. Me, I'm off fiction until I can get the sodding house cleaned.

06-28-2003, 02:50 AM
Hello ladies, I am quite behind I can see.
Kalyets, it is very uncanny, the timing of todays QOD.

This evening I left with DD to go to the store. When I came back home I couldn't get down the street to get to my court. All I could see were fire trucks and police cars! Thank goodness I could see my husband in our driveway(we live on the end)so I knew he was ok. We had to drive the long way around to get to my house. It was the longest 5 minutes, not knowing what was going on. As we came closer to our house we saw a fire in the fields near our home so we thought that was it. Not the case, sadly, at the end of the court , our neighbor's house burned. My dd and I were only gone about 40 min. In that time his house caught on fire, exploded out the windows(brand new, just installed) and was put out when we arrived. Isn't it amazing what can happen in such a short time. Thankfully, the neighbor was outside and is unharmed other than shock. His home is still standing but that is about it. It is completely burned up! He is an elderly man and his son has been cleaning up the yard, new windows, and getting ready to paint. My DD really likes this man and was very upset. She said she wanted to donate all her birthday money($155) to him so he could rebuild his home, can you believe it, she almost had me in tears. She can sure be a pain sometimes but at moments like that I was so proud of her! She has been wanting to get a hamster for a long time, that is what she is using her money for and yet she was willing to give it away to help him. I have to tell you guys my greatest fear is for my house to burn down. Give me floods and earthquakes but don' t you dare burn my house. And to answer the question of the day, it would be my negatives so I could reprint my photos and rescrapbook the memories.

Sorry for the long story, I had to share. As I type there is still fire trucks in my court. Don't know how much I will sleep tonight. I will catch up on all posts tomorrow. My hand is hurting I need to give it a rest. Thank you for listening. Bo-Beena

06-28-2003, 06:36 AM
Hello all!

Big yard sale here this weekend! DH is putting out signs as we speak - nearly 30 of them- big plain hands pointing left or right and above that spelled out in very big bold letters "LEFT " or "RIGHT" -- Who can read those signs with all the writing anyway?
So, hoping to sort, sell, and enjoy being outside today and tomorrow-

Today's thought is also today's question--

"What is your favorite saying or quote for inspiration and/or motivation?"

Take care all!

06-28-2003, 12:52 PM
Bo-Beena, what a scary thing to happen so close! It's amazing how quickly things can happen. And I was touched by your daughter's generosity too---sweet!

Cerise, you're right; it may be 4 steps forward and 3 steps back, but we're moving ever onward--no giving up!

Punkinseed, funny you should mention directions. My husband e-mailed her publicist who actually asked for directions! Susan is traveling in an RV that she says looks like a rolling bordello [I can only imagine!], and is making rather impromptu stops in small towns across the country.
Let me just go on record right now saying I LOVE SUSAN POWTER! I think she's one of those people that you either love or not. She's a tiny little thing and she has hair now, or at least extensions, the color of cotton candy and she has a goddess tatoo around her navel. She's as 'high energy' as ever too! She spoke for an hour at a bookstore and we were all mesmerized; she drew quite a crowd. We were on the front row and that's the place to be if you want to get close to her. She gets right in your face and uses you as a prop and it was wonderful!
One thing that I noticed about her is she seems to genuinely love people and when we were in the line for book signing, whover was in front of her was getting her full attention for as long as they wanted and she stayed there till everyone was done. And she did it for free--she just wants to sell her new self-published book "The Politics of Stupid" and her new website.
I could go on and on about her. I'm SOOO happy I got to meet her. One day I'd like to be as juicy as she is! I still feel energized today!

Kaylets, are you buying or selling in this big yard sale today? Has the hunter become the hunted?

I love today's question and am eager to see everyone's answers. One of my favorite quotes is the one at the bottom of my posts, a Scandinavian proverb. Another that I employ is a quote attributed to St. Theresa: "Cultivate holy boldness, for God helps the strong." I love that turn of phrase, 'holy boldness'!

06-29-2003, 07:56 AM
Hello all!

Moving carefully this morning-- not too sore but there are some muscles talking that we haven't heard from in a while!

We open the yard sale up again at 8 am and hope to reorganize the garage at the same time. Since the garage is nearly empty ...... We've not sold as much as we hoped but I think we had a lot of competition this weekend too. We know we'll have to have another one or drag things down to the flea market. Since this is the first weekend in 6 weeks without rain, I am sure EVERYONE is either running their own yardsale, or outside yardwork, kids sports, etc, etc.

But we did make some money, and make the garage passable.

I'll try and check back later--

Take care all!

06-29-2003, 08:22 PM
Looks like everyone's off enjoying a great weekend. Weather finally great here. Enjoyed my princesses (and the weight lifting that goes with them). Not too badly off plan today so far but will still claim a Fresh Start for tomorrow. Last two days BAD.

Hope you sold it all Kaylets and are only half as sore as yesterday.

06-30-2003, 05:39 AM
Flying by... Last day of the month, so I'm up to my armpits in work. Just wanted to poke my head in to say :wave: Have a wonderful day, Firecrackers!

06-30-2003, 07:38 AM
Hello all!!

Looks like we will have 3 days in a row of bearable temps and humidity!!

Yard sale went much better than anticipated, thank you. DH and I were amazed at the final dollar count. We did have a lot to sell, but we also think the good weather helped as folks were just so glad to be outside. We played the radio and made it a "pleasant " atmosphere-- We had lots of places folks could browse -- .10 boxes, paperbacks, etc--
We were still putting things away at 6 pm last night but we're ok this am. DH has one very bad foot due to on the job crush injury ( over 30 broken) so he spent most of last evening with his feet up on a kitchen chair.
So we really hit a home run on this one: made cash, got rid of lots of stuff, cleaned and reorganized the garage, and 8 boxes for the Cancer Thrift store.

My favorite actress Katharine Hepburn passed away this weekend. I picked today's thought in her honor.
Thought of the day :

"If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun. "
---Katharine Hepburn
Question of the day :

" What's your definition of fun?"
Take care all!

06-30-2003, 09:12 AM
Good morning, Ladies! :wave:

Gosh, I can't believe we're at the end of another challenge. I didn't really set a weight loss goal for this one. I have made some positive changes through Body for Life. Getting up to work out before leaving for work is quite an accomplishment for me, considering I have to get up at 4:45am to do it. I enjoy the weightlifting, and feel like I'm getting stronger and healthier, even if the scale has only moved a pound. I actually don't bother with the scale every day like I used to, since it is no longer an accurate measure with the program I'm doing. Building muscle can actually make the scale go up! I'm calling this challenge a success because I've finally found a program that I like and can continue doing.

Kaylets, sounds like your sale was a great success!

Eydie, I always liked Susan Powter, too. I think it was her infectious energy, and that she had the guts to not only lose the weight herself, but blow the top off the diet industry....as a woman, no less! I'd like to see her back in the media again. Yes, I'm still doing BFL, though I just can't manage six meals a day. I do five. I added abs to each upper and lower workout, as I don't feel every third day is enough, but I still have a cardio day inbetween to rest the abs. I'm seeing some definition in my upper arms and shoulders, and it's great motivation to keep going! What is it you don't think you're doing right?

Bo Beena, what a fright it must have been to see the emergency vehicles on your street! Glad you are all okay! I feel bad for your neighbor....losing everything like that. Very sweet of your daughter to offer her birthday money.

Cerise, grab a No Guilt card and a Fresh Start card, and get your behind back on the wagon! Would you like a shoulder harness like Kaylets has to prevent you from falling off again? ;)

Alright, time to workout. I'm starving and I have to workout first, so I better get at it.

Hello to all! :wave:

zadie k
06-30-2003, 11:18 AM
Just a quick fly by. Cannot believe it is almost the 4th. Very happy about that. Had a weekend where I should have gotten stuff done and did not. Aside from that, all goes smoothly.

Wow, fires are super scary. It is one of those things that I am so parinoid about (especially with the woodstove). I am glad no one was hurt.

I am glad all went well in the lands of garage sales and the land of Susan Powter.

Only three more days till one month off of work. Yippie.

06-30-2003, 12:47 PM
Hi All!!

Found out this weekend that we will get to move all our stuff into the house on the 26th! Yeah!

Also helped our friends move this weekend. What a pain! You don't ask someone to help you move if you are not packed up yet. So guess what I got to do? I couldn't believe it. I am so sore from bending and picking up their crap and then lifting. They have to be the laziest people ever. This is the last time we're helping them move. They did the very same thing to us last time.

Weighed in yesterday and was down 3 lbs. I will weigh in Thursday morning and let you know the official for the challenge. We're leaving right after work to go to corolla, nc for the 4th.

Be back later....

06-30-2003, 03:02 PM
Frogger, Congrats on the pounds down!:)

Wildfire, when I said I'm not doing BFL right, it's because I'm modifying it so much that it's not even recognizable as Body For Life!:lol: I love the 20 min. aerobic workout --really get a good sweat going with that. And I love that I've learned some extra lifting techniques; I'm seeing a bit of extra definition in my arms and I'm loving that. I'll see that triceps 'cut' yet! The main thing that I'm getting out of it is getting out of my rut, as far as strngth training. Your machine sounds great! I wanted to ask you, how do you handle your 'free day'? It sounds like a dream, but I have real problems with it!

I don't know if I ever mentioned this but I'm taking a yoga class. That's been good for me to get together with other people to do it. That's where I'm headed tonight.

06-30-2003, 04:46 PM
Loooove short-week Mondays! It's almost holiday'ish around here!

Awesome week, got in mugs and mugs of water, some exercise, and my eating is still good - even I'm impressed that I made 3 meals out of a chinese food run! Normally I'd snarf that stuff down so fast...
Anyway, I'm down 3.6 this week and the 2-teens are maybe just a week away? :cb: I'm afraid to jinx it, but for our next challenge, I just may make it my goal to get to Onederland. EEEK! :fr:

Cerise, they try to correct the pronounciation of your name?!?!? How ruuuude! I think it's a pretty name, I like the unique...

Eydie, Oh MY! I'm so happy that meeting Susan was everything you thought it would be! I hope her little bordello on wheels comes through my area on her way home (I heard she's living in Washington now??). It's wonderful to hear that someone we look up to is genuine.

Wildfire, I agree, finding a program that you're happy with IS a success in this challenge! :yes:

:wave: Arabella, Zadie, Anagram, Kaylets.... EVERYONE!!

Frogger, they expected you to help them pack too?? :dz: Niiiiice... You're a wonderful, *generous* friend.

Q o' the day~
My favorite quote is actually a poem. I keep it stuck to my fridge. I hope you like it too...
Look well to this day,
For it is life.
The very best of life.
In its brief course,
Lie all the realities and truths of existence,
The joy of growth,
The splendour of action,
The glory of power.
For yesterday is but a memory,
And tomorrow is but a vision.
But today, if well lived,
Makes every yesterday
A memory of happiness,
And every tomorrow,
A vision of hope.
Look well therefore to this day.

~Ancient Sanskrit Poem

Toodles for now,

07-01-2003, 01:52 PM
Happy Tuesday, Sparklers.

I went out to walk yesterday and my Ramon said "I'm proud of you, honey." So unexpected and so sweet. It kept me going through yet another very painful 35 minutes. I can't wait until this ol' body stops fighting and grows some damn leg muscles. :rolleyes: I never did weigh in last Friday. I'll definitely do it this week, though. Better than not knowing.

Man, I BLEW it this week with not eating fried food! Somebody hand me a straightjacket, not a shoulder strap, for that wagon of ours. :doh:

Eydie, your talk about Susan Powter has inspired me to look up her literature. I know nothing about her or her ideas, but she sounds healthy (about weight loss attitudes, I mean) and REAL, so I'm gonna read up on her. I'm glad you finally got some face-time with her. You deserved it!

Sooo, Eydie and Wildfire are getting muscle-y, huh? :strong: How many of the rest of you are on some sort of resistance training program? I'm going to have to study weight-training without weights, since Ramon and I won't be able to afford a health club in Seattle. Rubber bands and such for me, I guess? Anyone have any books/programs to recommend for that? Congrats, ladies! Man, it must feel GREAT to feel some firmness somewhere.

Oh, Bo-Beena, so sorry for your elderly neighbor. I'm so proud of your daughter! It's a testament to how you're raising her, I think. I remember when I was a child, watching TV ads about the starving kids overseas and crying for a long time, begging my mom to get out my savings ($50) send it to the organization. I think grownups sometimes lose that ability to feel deeply for people in need.

Aw, Frogger, what a drag to have to pack up your friends' stuff!! Ewwwww! That's one of those "friendship strains" that I'd have trouble recovering from. Good for you to learn from it and set yo' boundaries. I'm bad at that.

Punkin, when does your mom start chemo? Still sending out
:goodvibes for her and you. It sounds like you're set up to have a good week, though. I sure hope so.

Love to the rest of you...I'm thinking about you all and Ramon actually says hi, too. I tell him tidbits about your lives (nothing sensitive). Should I not do that? Let me know...

Adieu, adieu to yeu and yeu and yeu...

zadie k
07-01-2003, 02:36 PM
For some reason I could not get on this morning. Strange. At any rate, I thought I had to go to a meeting, and then I was just informed that I do not need to be there. I got lunch anyway (veggie sandwich w/mustard on whole wheat and I took off the cheese and a cookie which I should not have eaten and did anyway, but the snack sized potato chips and in the bag unopened on my desk). Feel kinda strange about the meeting, and yet I really have very little share in the kind of decisisions that are going to be made and my own position in the organization is going to remain the same.

So, I study at the same coffee shop every day with a friend of mine and just after I get home yesterday my boyfriend asks if I want to go the the coffeeshop with him. I said no becuase I was tired and becuase I had been there for 6 hours already. He got a little pouty. I did not mind becuase he did have a triginometry test this morning that he was trying to study for.

Frogger - you have now just earned yourself massive moving karma. That really sucks though. I mean, I am a total slob, but even I pack before I make people help me move (which they must becuase I built up massive ammounts of moving karma one year when I helped people move in February when it was icy and 15 below zero).

Well, I suppose I should shove off and get some more work done as long as I am here. Only two more days till a month of freedom. I love m job and all, but seriously a month off is a month off.

07-01-2003, 04:50 PM
:lol: Amazing how much work I got done this morning with the site down!! Man, that was some withdrawl....

Cerise, we keep the straightjackets in the back of the wagon, dust one off and we'll help you lace up ;). :wave: Ramon! I occasionally share stuff with my Mom about what's going on with you guys - I don't see how it's different than telling her about happenings in all my friend's lives... (the line between "real" and computer friends is getting more and more blurred every day).

Zadie, a month off????? Whatcha' gonna do?? Ok, relax and recharge, but then anything good?

Thanks for asking about Mums Cerise... she had her first chemo treatment yesterday. Her blood pressure was through the roof when she went in (no big surprise there) and by the time she was almost done it was back down to normal. All and all, so far so good I guess. She's been pretty nauseated today and that's even with 3 different meds to control it (imagine what it would be *without* meds). They said by Wednesday of next week she'll start seeing outward signs of treatment (like her hair...). We're just going to hug her through this.

Matter of fact, she just walked in and asked me to make her some mashed potatoes.... off I go!