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nitrus29
04-19-2013, 05:51 PM
I have a qs related to MILK! I have read many a success stories on this forum where people have said they would have cereal without milk for breakfast. I have also read on other fitness websites to cut out milk from your diet if you're trying to lose weight.

Is this really true? Anyone know from experience? :?:

I am asking this cause I LOVE MILK ! :o I mean I cannot imagine my breakfast without milk. Some nights I need to drink a glass of milk before bed. I mean all my life if there was one thing you would find in my fridge, it would be milk!!
I will WALK with my knees burried in snow to get milk from the kwik mart during snow storms! I will place a pillow between my cereal bowl and my cat but I will never share my bowl of milk !
(You guys get the picture!! :^: )

I am worried that I might have to cut it off from my diet to help me lose weight. Ever since I started on this weight loss journey, I buy the 2% instead of whole. I tried switching to fat free but it's more like water less like milk!

Is milk bad for me? Please say it isn't so ! :(


bunnabear
04-19-2013, 05:59 PM
I'm certainly not a nutrition expert, but I can speak from my own experience. We went from whole to 2% to 1% and eventually to skim over time and now I'm fine with skim (whereas before it would literally stimulate my gag reflex). I've had milk be a big part of my diet and have eliminated it and didn't really notice anything significant either way since I included it in my calorie count when I drank it. The one thing that did stand out to me in your post was your very apparent love of milk, which makes me wonder how successful you'll be in the long run if you completely eliminate it. I would recommend being mindful of your intake, how that contributes to your calories (as well as protein, fat, etc) and work to gradually step back to 1% or even skim over time.

nitrus29
04-19-2013, 06:11 PM
yeah I do count it within my daily calories but I am just wondering if it is entire necessary to cut it out completely? It is a good source of protein and calcium isn't it? :?:

I want strong bones!! I don't want osteoporosis when I grow older :( <- that's me talking myself out of giving it up!


amandie
04-19-2013, 06:17 PM
I still have it from time to time, only up to 1 cup at a time though and it is 2%. I honestly don't think you have to completely eliminate it but maybe reduce your intake a bit? I mean if you're counting calories and you can fit it in, why not? Another suggestion would be to try almond milk.

amandie
04-19-2013, 06:19 PM
yeah I do count it within my daily calories but I am just wondering if it is entire necessary to cut it out completely? It is a good source of protein and calcium isn't it? :?:

I want strong bones!! I don't want osteoporosis when I grow older :( <- that's me talking myself out of giving it up!

If you have lost 16lbs while still drinking milk then I say stick with it! :)

nitrus29
04-19-2013, 06:21 PM
Oh Yes!! I lost the pounds after I cut out all other sugary drinks and sodas and everything! All I drink is water and milk ! So I think it's not so bad. But again.. I'm here to learn :^:

kelleyb
04-19-2013, 08:34 PM
Just make sure it is part of your calorie count/plan and enjoy! why not? There are also plenty of studies about how milk drinkers lose more weight, etc. Could you try to switch to 1%?

elvislover324
04-19-2013, 08:38 PM
I agree with the above, you lost 16lbs drinking milk so it's working for you!

If you want milk, work it into your daily allotment.

Once I switched gradually over the years to skim, if I have to have regular milk it feels like I'm drinking cream LOL! I could never go back to full fat milk now!

Enjoy your milk...and share with your kitty too!! :)

the shiv
04-19-2013, 09:00 PM
I share your love of milk! I used to go through 2L of semi skimmed a day! That was when I was maintaining in the 170-180 range with no great effort to lose weight despite the fact I wanted to. I looked at my carton of milk last night and worked out there's 70g of protein in that bottle. So, when I used to drink that every day, with likely other protein added on top, it's no surprise I never had any trouble building muscle, lol!! (Going by 1g per day per lb of lean mass). I think I'll start drinking more milk actually, specifically because of this post :)

Start with the easy things, honest! Don't cut out something you love just for the heck of it :)

Oh, and... I LOVE your avatar! I have that pic in my phone :) Big fan of unicorns :D

Silverfire
04-19-2013, 09:07 PM
Milk is so good. I love it. Not as much as I used to though. When I lived at home with my parents it would be no problem for me to drink at least 8L of milk a week. I still love a tall ice cold glass of 1% milk, but now 2L will last a week or more between the two of us. If it fits into your calories then keep drinking it :D

L J
04-20-2013, 12:01 AM
I bet you would find this article, and the referenced and link studies, interesting:

http://wholesomegal.com/2011/05/23/why-i-drink-whole-milk/

I have never been big on milk, but I do put it in my coffee, and I eat it with cereal, and I cook with it. I have still lost weight. I'm a calorie counter, but I pay attention to macros and I love the healthy fat in whole milk. I only buy whole milk - as in, if the store is out of whole, we get it at a different store or the next day. That's how strongly I feel about it.

stella1609
04-20-2013, 12:08 AM
I've lost 30 lbs. and I eat tons of dairy (mostly 2% milk and cheese). I don't eat much meat so I need it for the protein.

Wannabeskinny
04-20-2013, 10:06 AM
I don't eat cereal (wheat!!) and I don't share your enthusiasm for milk. I've used it in recipes and used to put it in my coffee. Occasionally I'll eat some cheese but honestly.... milk is full of hormones that are intended to make baby calves grow up to be giant cows. I'm not an extremist by any means but there is some truth to the argument that we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infancy, and the only species that drinks the milk of another species.

The calcium bit is just a cop out, there are so many good nutritious sources of calcium that you could stop drinking milk full stop and be fine! Dark leafy green vegetables like broccoli and kale are excellent sources of calcium, as are almonds, sesame seeds, flax seeds, spinach, even dried oregano has calcium in it.

I'm not saying you have to give up something you love, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking that it's completely necessary and that it adds nutritional value to your life that you can't get from other sources. As long as you're happy with what you're doing and can find a nutritional value in it who am I to criticize. But sorry, I cannot come up with reasons for you to drink several glasses of milk per day any more than I can come up with reasons for people to drink several glasses of soda per day.

IanG
04-20-2013, 10:17 AM
Low fat (1%) doesn't do me any harm. I cut sugar.

gailr42
04-20-2013, 11:53 AM
Another milk lover here. I find that when I cut out refined sugar and white flour as I did at the beginning of this journey, I didn't crave milk so much. I wouldn't dream of drinking my coffee without milk.

When I first started, I was pretty hungry all the time and a glass of milk before bed really helped me sleep.

Over the years, I have gone from whole milk to 2% to 1% to skim. I now use the powdered milk that comes in a box at the grocery. The powdered milk has improved greatly over the last forty or so years. Remember, I really am a milk lover and never thought I would get down to skim let alone nonfat dry milk. I started using it when we moved out to the boonies and walking across the desert to buy milk was not an option.

I strongly dislike Almond Milk and soy milk. I just don't get the Almond milk love. It is expensive and has a bad after taste. JMHO, YMMV etc.

Don't give up milk, just treat it like any other food and work it in.

Keep Moving Forward
04-20-2013, 01:45 PM
I love milk! I couldn't live without it, & I don't! I drink organic 2% every day, with no growth hormones, cloning or unnecessary additives, & I'm still losing weight. If you're losing weight, I don't see why you would need to cut it out, as long as you're not downing it by the gallon in one sitting. No need to be deprived of delicious milk :D


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AlmostMe
04-21-2013, 03:47 PM
Milk is great! Some populations (some Northern Europeans and some Africans) have evolved digestive systems to drink milk as adults. So if you're one of those people (and I am) I say enjoy it and that there's zero need to cut milk out of your diet if you enjoy it. On the other hand, there are other ways to get calcium etc than drinking milk - you don't NEED it. But I'm doing intuitive eating and so I'm supposed to eat what I enjoy.

BTW - I do drink milk. Whole milk. Not daily, but at the level that I like - most days a week, at a guess.

stella1609
04-21-2013, 10:13 PM
I'm not an extremist by any means but there is some truth to the argument that we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infancy, and the only species that drinks the milk of another species.

We are also the only species that cooks its food, to the best of my knowledge :) Perhaps learning to drink milk is an evolutionary advantage in the same way? I know lots of species that WILL drink the milk of other species if given the opportunity.

Wannabeskinny
04-22-2013, 08:39 AM
We are also the only species that cooks its food, to the best of my knowledge :) Perhaps learning to drink milk is an evolutionary advantage in the same way? I know lots of species that WILL drink the milk of other species if given the opportunity.

There's definitely truth to that. I'm not anti-milk. I don't drink it as a beverage and use it sparingly. Ok truth be told I like yogurt. But it does make me wonder sometimes, milk is loaded with growth hormones that are intended to make baby cows grow up, just like breast milk is loaded with hormones to make babies grow. There's just a lot to think about when it comes to milk, I'm not trying to put anyone off it, I'm just stating that I have questions about it. It also makes me kind of sad that the dairy industry keeps cows in a perpetual state of milk production, can you imagine if we humans were kept like that? It doesn't seem normal, especially since those poor little calves never even get to have their momma's milk. They're given formula instead - which raises the question, what does that mean for the calve's health and the nutrition of the milk we drink? I don't know, these are the things I think about. We can't just take take take all the time. http://freefromharm.org/farm-animal-welfare/what-about-humanely-raised-milk-and-dairy-products/

Psychic
04-22-2013, 10:10 AM
Some recent studies show that milk may actually help with weight loss if drank in moderation due to the vitamin D in contains. As long as you're not going over your calorie limit (if you count calories), milk is perfectly fine.

WebMD Milk Helps with Weight Loss (http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100922/milk-drinkers-may-lose-more-weight)

nitrus29
04-24-2013, 05:31 PM
wow! thanks for all the responses everybody. I had lost this thread somewhere and since I am fairly new to 3FC I am trying to figure out how to keep tabs on what I post and what everyone replies! :o

So Milk is GOOD!! :D YAY! :carrot:

Suzanne 3FC
04-29-2013, 08:04 PM
I personally find that dairy has a negative effect on my weight. It's odd, even when I replace other foods with the same number of calories from dairy, my scale blips upwards a little. I have no idea if this is true, but Dr. Mark Hyman says this is due to a dairy allergy - not the same thing as lactose intolerance. I haven't always been this way, it's just a body response I've noticed over the last year or two. I've charted my weight and food log carefully.

There's nothing in dairy that I can't get from other food groups, so I avoid it now. I must admit that giving up cheese and Greek yogurt was difficult at first, but I don't miss them now.

The dairy industry is pretty twisted, btw.