Other Reduced Carb Diets - Is anyone calorie counting and doing keto or low carb?




SnowPetal
04-02-2013, 09:38 PM
Just wondering if I am the only one doing keto that is calorie counting as well?. Most people incuding on other sites aren't calorie counting whilst on keto. I have been reading studies on keto and a calorie controlled diet and the weightloss is definitely greater - which is why i'm doing it.


thepapillon
04-02-2013, 09:58 PM
I am doing that as well... What amount are you keeping your calories? I did some reading and it looks like restricting the calories too much on a keto diet can make the weight loss slow down. I'm glad to hear you've found positive results. I can't say I'm complaining... I've only been doing the keto/calorie counting for 9 days... and I've lost 8 pounds. :)

And though 8 pounds that quickly seems like a lot, or most likely water weight... I'm already fitting into my size 4 clothes, where I was an 8 before! So I'm content whether it be water weight or fat. LOL

SnowPetal
04-02-2013, 10:11 PM
I'm sticking to 800 calories. Which for my body is what it needs to lose weight even with keto - my hormones are seriously stuffed!.

Which studies said it can slow down weightloss? That doesn't make sense to me since starvation mode is a myth.


thepapillon
04-02-2013, 10:53 PM
I'm around 800 too. Sometimes 600 and then sometimes 900. I seem to do okay on it, and don't feel hungry very often.

I will have to look again where I found the text about too low calorie on keto slows it down. I agree with you, I think it's untrue... as it's worked for me now and did about 2 years ago.

Are you craving anything? I want cereal and bread something fierce! (Not to mention a brownie sundae. lol)

Jez
04-02-2013, 11:11 PM
When I count calories now, I do tend to still keep an eye on my carbs and keep them relatively low. I think it's ideal, because i think low carb, whole foods are the best for health, and i need the tracking just to keep my overeating and binges in check.

SnowPetal
04-02-2013, 11:18 PM
No I don't feel hungry either. I'm not craving anything luckily. I gave up cereal around 4 years ago along with bread, pasta etc. So it's just a step down from my normal paleo way of eating.

Cravings wouldn't be helping you. That's the problem with those types of carbs they are addictive!.

Have you lost all of your weight so far doing keto? If so how long has it taken?.

Radiojane
04-02-2013, 11:45 PM
I'm keeping in an 800 to 1100 range and under 20g carbs. I feel great, no hunger and I lose steadily.

ghost
04-03-2013, 02:54 PM
I calorie count and keto also. Its seems that with men, they can do the "eat all the cheese and bacon" method but the women seem to have to control their intake more. I love keto because my appetite is seriously suppressed an that has always been my biggest issue with dieting. There really is something to calories in/calories out despite what some low carb "gurus" want you to believe. You cannot eat 3000 calories at 75%+ fat and still lose weight. At least I can't and many many of my online keto sisters cannot either. It has started quite a few b**** fights between members of other online support forums because there are so many of us that still believe the CI/CO applies to keto (any energy in excess of need will be converted to storage fat whether it comes from carb, fat or protein).

I keep my intake around 1000+ calories a day, sometimes more especially if I find myself feeling worn out. I'm also supplementing Co Q10 now and magnesium and they have made all the difference with my energy levels.

kayin
04-10-2013, 10:48 PM
OMG! I found others doing keto and eating 800 cals! I am so happy that I'm not the only one! That's what I do and it works for me. I also excercise a lot, like >15 hours a week including walking.

I lose about 4 pounds per week, whereas if I don't calorie count but do keto I lose only maybe 1 pound per week.

I also intermittent fast from 9pm to 5pm, so my eating "window" is 5 to 9pm, but this strategy is not for everyone. I do eat a protein shake after my endurance workouts (3-5 hours mountain hiking or walking hills) every 2-3 days.

So nice to see others doing about 800(+)cal and keto!

Terese2
04-11-2013, 08:32 AM
I just re-started the 17 Day Diet plan, which is a reduced-carb plan. A couple of years ago, I lost 50 pounds pretty quickly on it, and well - you know what happened after that.

I, too, keep an eye on calories. For me, 1200 or slightly higher is my target, and I lose pretty well at that number.

marigrace
04-12-2013, 03:35 PM
Oh ...the I can eat all the butter cream and bacon I want diet ? I was just on that...It didn't work for me either. Yesterday I increased carbs to about 30 (net) added a touch of fruit and got rid of most of the sugar substitutes. I thought that might bring back some of the water weight, but I'm down today. I had been keeping carbs at 20 net or so, (which has been tough because I love vegies) and not loosing anything at 1500 calories.

SnowPetal
04-12-2013, 06:56 PM
I calorie count and keto also. Its seems that with men, they can do the "eat all the cheese and bacon" method but the women seem to have to control their intake more. I love keto because my appetite is seriously suppressed an that has always been my biggest issue with dieting. There really is something to calories in/calories out despite what some low carb "gurus" want you to believe. You cannot eat 3000 calories at 75%+ fat and still lose weight. At least I can't and many many of my online keto sisters cannot either. It has started quite a few b**** fights between members of other online support forums because there are so many of us that still believe the CI/CO applies to keto (any energy in excess of need will be converted to storage fat whether it comes from carb, fat or protein).

I keep my intake around 1000+ calories a day, sometimes more especially if I find myself feeling worn out. I'm also supplementing Co Q10 now and magnesium and they have made all the difference with my energy levels.

I agree, women simply can't lose if they eat over a certain amount. Especially as many seem to over eat protein and don't seem to realise that excess protein is actually converted into glucose by the body and contributes to lack of weight loss or no weight loss. The palm size portion method for protein still applies to low carb as well.

kileymed13
04-13-2013, 10:21 AM
I am also following a Ketogenic diet along with calorie counting. I did Ideal Protein from October-March and lost around 60 pounds. I started to increase my exercise and found I could not continue on Ideal Protein with the amount of exercise I want to do. I now cycle my days, Ketogenic with cal count on days with exercise and Ideal Protein day with no exercise. I currently play indoor field hockey an hour each week and do 2 days of cross fit style workouts. On the other days I usually go for a 20 minute slower paced walk to prevent cramping in my legs.

This has helped me lose at a slower rate, but I am ok with it. I feel much better and my activity level is way better than it was. I am sticking with around 800-100 net calories, I need to make sure I make up for what I burn because on field hockey days it is around 600+ calories. I keep my net carbs below 40 on Ideal Protein type days and usually below 30 on Ketogenic days. It is a lot of tracking but I feel it is a lifestyle change, I need to monitor to stay on track. I have also had one cheat day every week but I am finding that even on those days, the carbs just do not sit well. I am looking at it as an experiment, trying to find the right balance between weight loss, carb and calorie intake and the ability to perform as I wish.

joefla70
04-13-2013, 10:30 AM
Yes... except that I'm too lazy to actually do the "counting", if that makes sense. I keep my carbs really low, although I don't count them, because I don't eat any starches or grains whatsoever. I pretty much only eat protein, fat and veggies for now. While I don't actually count the calories, I know they are being kept pretty low because I'm limiting my portions. I suppose that one of these days I should actually count out how many calories my typical meals are, but I've been too lazy to do that! And I know myself, and as long as what I'm doing is working, I'm not going to have any incentive to do the counting. If I stall, that's when I'll probably start.

mrskuby
04-15-2013, 09:12 AM
I am also following a Ketogenic diet along with calorie counting. I did Ideal Protein from October-March and lost around 60 pounds. I started to increase my exercise and found I could not continue on Ideal Protein with the amount of exercise I want to do. I now cycle my days, Ketogenic with cal count on days with exercise and Ideal Protein day with no exercise. I currently play indoor field hockey an hour each week and do 2 days of cross fit style workouts. On the other days I usually go for a 20 minute slower paced walk to prevent cramping in my legs.

This has helped me lose at a slower rate, but I am ok with it. I feel much better and my activity level is way better than it was. I am sticking with around 800-100 net calories, I need to make sure I make up for what I burn because on field hockey days it is around 600+ calories. I keep my net carbs below 40 on Ideal Protein type days and usually below 30 on Ketogenic days. It is a lot of tracking but I feel it is a lifestyle change, I need to monitor to stay on track. I have also had one cheat day every week but I am finding that even on those days, the carbs just do not sit well. I am looking at it as an experiment, trying to find the right balance between weight loss, carb and calorie intake and the ability to perform as I wish.

Hi Kiley! So when you say you are doing ketogenic days, do you mean you are adding fat? IP is a ketogenic diet but they keep the fat intake low...I've been mostly following IP with alternatives and adding a banana before my workout (targeted ketogenic diet or TKD). Of course now I read "The Art & Science of Low Carb Performance" and the authors seem to be saying that our workouts can be totally fueled by body fat and that all we really need to do is be sure to have extra salt and water prior to a workout. I am thinking about giving that a shot when I workout later today...But I have also been wondering if I should start adding fat back into my diet and heading towards an Atkins type diet...

As far as counting calories, I haven't done it yet because doing IP keeps the calories right around 800 calories so I haven't had to yet. I guess if I decide to add in fat, I will prolly have to start counting. I HATE counting! It's such a pain and not realistic for my lifestyle!

kileymed13
04-16-2013, 09:36 AM
Hi Kiley! So when you say you are doing ketogenic days, do you mean you are adding fat? IP is a ketogenic diet but they keep the fat intake low...I've been mostly following IP with alternatives and adding a banana before my workout (targeted ketogenic diet or TKD). Of course now I read "The Art & Science of Low Carb Performance" and the authors seem to be saying that our workouts can be totally fueled by body fat and that all we really need to do is be sure to have extra salt and water prior to a workout. I am thinking about giving that a shot when I workout later today...But I have also been wondering if I should start adding fat back into my diet and heading towards an Atkins type diet...

As far as counting calories, I haven't done it yet because doing IP keeps the calories right around 800 calories so I haven't had to yet. I guess if I decide to add in fat, I will prolly have to start counting. I HATE counting! It's such a pain and not realistic for my lifestyle!

I am doing a combo of higher fat keto days (Atkins like) and alternating with IP days (low fat). I vary depending on my planned exercise for the day. I find I have an easier recovery when I have a higher fat keto day and have an easier time adjusting my calories. I also enjoy eating more "real" food. I do not like calorie counting either but I am finding it a necessary evil, especially as I continue to move forward. I am doing more of a cycled keto diet with a cheat day every week or two. So far I have had no issues getting back on after a cheat day. I feel better with lower carbs intake.

mrskuby
04-17-2013, 08:34 AM
I made the decision to add fat into my diet...actually after reading the Art & Science of Low Carb, I am going to follow their advice for nutritional ketosis. My calories will more than double! According to their calcs I should be eating around 2000 calories a day! I don't even know where to start adding! :dizzy:

Twice now I have worked out with just a teaspoon of salt and some water 30 minutes prior and have had great results! I really like the idea of using fat to fuel my workouts...:carrot:

I ordered a blood ketone tester and strips because i want to really keep a close eye on ketone levels to make sure I stay in the fat burning mode and not go back to carb burning without having enough carbs. I guess it's all gonna be a process of figuring out what works best for me!

rmedeiros23
12-02-2013, 02:45 PM
Could you help me with menu ideas!?
I should be eating something around 800cal but I just can't make it.
I'm eating 1200cal/day, most of it because I have a sweet tooth!
I'm having whey pancakes for breakfast and as dinner.
And both my snacks (am and pm) are basically some kind of low carb sweet.

Marymar
01-04-2014, 01:41 PM
Hi! I. Count calories and eat low carb too. I try to stick to 1100-1000 calories and less than 20 carbs a day. If i eat less i go hungry. To track my intake i use the mynetdiary on my ipad. Started january first at 240 lbs. Goalis to loose 100 pounds.

Zumbachica
01-19-2014, 02:45 PM
Hello..I am not doing keto anymore, I hated the way it made me feel (bad breath, constipation, weakness and fogginess)..but I am doing low carb now and I am paying attention to calories. I try and stay at 1000 calories knowing all too well I'm probably going over to 1200-1300.....I have been on many low carb diets, atkins, SBD, Dukan and Belly Fat cure...and I noticed that no matter how low I keep carbs if I don't keep calorie count low also I don't lose weight..i don't know why that is because others do well on low carb diets no matter what their calorie count is.

OthelloLove
01-20-2014, 10:29 PM
Hmm... Going to try this. Counting and low carb. ;)

sarahinparis
01-21-2014, 04:09 AM
I think it's a fallacy that most people on low carb can eat as much as they want and still lose weight. I think that's even more of a problem for middle aged women, I think most of us have to keep a lid on both carbs and calories (and maybe protein too). I can maintain fairly well without keeping a lid on calories, but to lose I have to stay dialed in. If you want to read more about this, I recommend Jenny Ruhl's Diet 101 book.

mars735
02-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Hi! I. Count calories and eat low carb too. I try to stick to 1100-1000 calories and less than 20 carbs a day. If i eat less i go hungry. To track my intake i use the mynetdiary on my ipad. Started january first at 240 lbs. Goalis to loose 100 pounds.

I don't mean to be a buttinsky but based on your 5'9" height, your goal weight sounds a bit low. Your carb count too, especially if that's total carbs as opposed to net carbs. I'm no expert but did 7 months of Ideal Protein which supposedly has figured the absolute minimum carbs to maintain a weight-losing metabolism. According to them, if you go under 20 or 30 NET (after subtracting fiber carbs), your metabolism will slow down to conserve energy and you weight loss will slow down too.

Like I said, I'm not an expert and we are all different :D

peaceloveharmony
04-12-2014, 01:06 AM
I am new here, but happy to join and find others who count calories as well as carbs.

I usually have about 800 calories, but lately I have been increasing to to 1200. I dont think it is impacting my weight, but definitely my pocketbook:)

My stats are 5'4 at 115 lbs. I would like to trim off the last few on my belly and I workout about 5 days a week.

Hmm.. I still am trying to figure out what amounts of fat/protein work for me. I think I was undernourished before, but maybe this all my way of justifying how much I can eat:))

AlaskaLadyie
04-14-2014, 12:36 AM
Hello peaceloveharmony... looks like this is an older thread but great advice.. I am just starting into thie High Fat Low carb way of eating... I use my fitness pal and have my calories set at 1000 might go over by a bit I have my carb set at 25g my protein at 130g and fat at 91 g I dont remember what the % are but so far this is doing pretty well for my I miss fruit but I know that Fruit can cause me to loose weight I like that kellymed said she was alternating between high Fat and low carb and IP days cause I just invested in a bunch of IP food and I would likie to use it up before I completly go High Fat Low Carb.... I subscribed to the Bulletproof site there is a great diet guide line recommendation from them

jmh6251
10-14-2014, 12:53 PM
It has been claimed that if you are on a KETO diet you don't need to count calories. I guess everyone is different because I have to. I don't have to go crazy because I stay around 1500 calories give or take, but that allows me to lose the weight and the fat controls my appetite. I tried going on a general low calorie diet and I was always hungry and shakey. So I now know for a fact that for me I have to do both. My decision has been in question from others that have been blessed with not having to count calories. All I can say is bless them and I wish them success

Jennym55
10-14-2014, 02:14 PM
Everyone is different, and sometimes it's like trying to catch smoke fathoming exactly how our bodies work. I'm closely following Gary Taubes, Jimmy Moore, Jonny Bowden for advice.

I have set my calorie total to a huge 1700, though because of my high fat diet (80%), I struggle to get to 1500 some days, on other days I woefully go over the top. But I'm not worried.

Apparently eating fat doesn't turn into body fat. Unless you've triggered insulin production through eating carbs or too much protein. I don't want to go low on calorie count because I want to keep my metabolism revved. But I do have to keep my protein low to between 60g and 70g. Over 70g I start craving carbs which means my pancreas has produced a little squirt of insulin through the surplus protein producing glucose by the process of gluconeogenesis. Insulin is the only hormone that packs our body fat cells, and I don't need that :)

It's not easy, we are all so different, diets are not a one-fit for all. We do our best.

jmh6251
10-14-2014, 07:00 PM
What I usually do is weigh my meat. I don't eat over 3 or 4 ounces per meal. I have Coconut oil,meat fat, butter, and HWC everyday. And of course I do LC veggies and a little fruit mostly berries. As Long as my fat intake is high enough it knocks out my appetite. Today I haven't had many calories or carbs and haven't been hungry in hours

jmh6251
10-19-2014, 05:39 PM
I have been avidly following the HFLC videos on youtube. There are quite a few and they all have crucial information. it all makes sense to me, but I have to be calorie mindful as I have stated in previous posts