Ideal Protein Diet - How long have you been able to keep the weight off?




Lunechene
03-20-2013, 02:14 AM
Hi All,

I am considering undergoing the Ideal Protein Diet that was recommended to me by my chiropractor. I am convinced that it seems to work for most people, but I am wondering if it will be possible to keep the weight off long term? Is there anyone who has been able to successfully maintain their goal weight for 1-2 years after completing the diet? And is this maintenance an arduous task of calorie counting and a lot of restrictions?

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks for your time! And good luck to everyone with your health goals.


ragdoll74
03-20-2013, 08:41 AM
The maintainers thread is something you might want to read.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/274851-maintainers-vol-10-a.html

itzconni3
03-20-2013, 08:53 AM
My sister-in-law has maintained her weight for over 2 years and she was the inspiration for my starting this diet


LexiChanel1
03-20-2013, 09:18 AM
Interesting question, I love it:)
I have 2 friends that went n this diet in 2012. Both were thin till summer 2012. They basically maintained through the summer, so maybe three months. Saw them at a party last month, and unfortunately they both looked like they gained allot back. I would say they both gained at least 20 back.
My coach was on the diet in 2011, she showed me oictures of how she looked, and she really isnt like that now. Shes gained at least 20 back as well. I am really afraid of getting off the diet and maintaining due to these examples. I was told by one friend that she did Phase 1 allot when she was maintaining. that doesnt sound fun:(

2Poles1Girl
03-20-2013, 10:04 AM
I think it's fair to say that this weight-loss diet is similar to others out there in helping to get the weight off (although IP seems to see more rapid results). But Maintenance is a life long commitment and is inherently methodical, and can be arduous until you incorporate it as a lifestyle.

Speaking to "success" - On my first round doing IP, I lost a substantial amount of weight but did not reach goal (by choice) before phasing off. I maintained that loss for a few months, then stopped exercising due to an injury, gained a few more but held steady. Months later, life got emotional, old behaviors kicked in and the scale soared. I didn't gain it all back, not by a long shot, but enough to reach the OMG point and I'm back for round two.

I've read many blogs over the past year...runners blogs, paleo blogs, vegan blogs, stay at home mom blogs, etc. Most folks who live inside a healthy body are very conscious of what they use to fuel their bodies.

All that said, I don't think it's about the success or failure of IP necessarily, it's about how we do life after the weight comes off. IP is great for getting it off, it gives you the tools to success during Maintenance...the rest is up to us.

ragdoll74
03-20-2013, 10:07 AM
All that said, I don't think it's about the success or failure of IP necessarily, it's about how we do life after the weight comes off. IP is great for getting it off, it gives you the tools to success during Maintenance...the rest is up to us.

I totally agree with you.

PacNW IP
03-20-2013, 10:09 AM
My mom had kept off all except about 3 pounds for a year. She is currently doing the annual "Pancreas Reset" where you do a short duration on each phase and the 3 has already come off. She's the reason I decided to do IP; it's hard to lose the weight, but it's even harder to keep it off.

scorbett1103
03-20-2013, 10:23 AM
I work with four women who have kept the weight off after Ideal Protein for 2 years.

Ideal Protein is a fantastic program to get the weight off quickly - however success in maintenance depends on the person's ability to change the way they eat for the LONG term. You cannot drop the weight quickly and then expect to be able to eat the way you used to - or eat thoughtlessly. Especially if you were overweight for a long time, or morbidly obese, your body isn't going to want to stay thin on its own. IP doesn't turn you into a "naturally thin" person who can eat what they want whenever they want.

The good news is, the weight loss phase of IP is fairly simple - which gives you plenty of time to learn good portioning and get used to eating LOTS of veggies (something that will carry through to maintenance). IP also has a really good phase-off plan that eases you back into "long term" eating. If you follow through it all thoughtfully, you will be well equipped to keep your weight off.

evepet
03-20-2013, 11:05 AM
I think it's fair to say that this weight-loss diet is similar to others out there in helping to get the weight off (although IP seems to see more rapid results). But Maintenance is a life long commitment and is inherently methodical, and can be arduous until you incorporate it as a lifestyle.

Speaking to "success" - On my first round doing IP, I lost a substantial amount of weight but did not reach goal (by choice) before phasing off. I maintained that loss for a few months, then stopped exercising due to an injury, gained a few more but held steady. Months later, life got emotional, old behaviors kicked in and the scale soared. I didn't gain it all back, not by a long shot, but enough to reach the OMG point and I'm back for round two.

I've read many blogs over the past year...runners blogs, paleo blogs, vegan blogs, stay at home mom blogs, etc. Most folks who live inside a healthy body are very conscious of what they use to fuel their bodies.

All that said, I don't think it's about the success or failure of IP necessarily, it's about how we do life after the weight comes off. IP is great for getting it off, it gives you the tools to success during Maintenance...the rest is up to us.

I totally agree with you.

My mom had kept off all except about 3 pounds for a year. She is currently doing the annual "Pancreas Reset" where you do a short duration on each phase and the 3 has already come off. She's the reason I decided to do IP; it's hard to lose the weight, but it's even harder to keep it off.

I work with four women who have kept the weight off after Ideal Protein for 2 years.

Ideal Protein is a fantastic program to get the weight off quickly - however success in maintenance depends on the person's ability to change the way they eat for the LONG term. You cannot drop the weight quickly and then expect to be able to eat the way you used to - or eat thoughtlessly. Especially if you were overweight for a long time, or morbidly obese, your body isn't going to want to stay thin on its own. IP doesn't turn you into a "naturally thin" person who can eat what they want whenever they want.

The good news is, the weight loss phase of IP is fairly simple - which gives you plenty of time to learn good portioning and get used to eating LOTS of veggies (something that will carry through to maintenance). IP also has a really good phase-off plan that eases you back into "long term" eating. If you follow through it all thoughtfully, you will be well equipped to keep your weight off.

ITA and *LIKE* all of the above. IP is not a 'Miracle Cure'... if we return to former bad habits, weight will accumulate again... as it will regardless of what diet plan we use to slim down.

Tziri
03-20-2013, 11:39 AM
I like and agree with all of the posts above. No matter what diet you choose to lose weight, your future life is what you make of it. After any diet, we already know what to expect if we go back to old lifestyle/eating habits (that's what got us to our breaking points!). Obviously there needs to be some life-long change.

LexiChanel1
03-20-2013, 12:36 PM
All that understood, its still crazy that the three out of three I personally know that lost on IP gained it back:( I just fear I will be added to that stat.

TripSwitch
03-20-2013, 01:24 PM
Unfortunately, statistics show that the chances of maintaining a substantial weight loss no matter what program you follow aren't all that good...

animallover
03-20-2013, 01:33 PM
One of the ladies I work with lost around 50lbs on IP and has kept it off for over a year now.

Ishbel
03-20-2013, 01:51 PM
Unfortunately, statistics show that the chances of maintaining a substantial weight loss no matter what program you follow aren't all that good...

And the best you can do is research the crap out of those statistics to find out why. I have accepted I cannot eat the way I used to nor the way the person beside me is eating...accepting that is half the battle. Just like someone who's lost their leg, they cannot do anything about it they must play their cards the way they were handed to them. Same thing goes for my weight.

The best thing ANYONE can do is just accept the cards they are dealt and move along. I cannot eat the way I used to without gaining, I do not want to gain therefore I WILL NOT eat the way I used to.

2Poles1Girl
03-20-2013, 01:55 PM
Unfortunately, statistics show that the chances of maintaining a substantial weight loss no matter what program you follow aren't all that good...

There are various thoughts on this, but I tend to lean toward the idea that some of have a food addiction, some are sensitive to certain foods that trigger a binge and some use food to cope rather than develop heathy coping mechanisms..and for some it includes all of the above. That's entirely a mental/emotional game that needs to be addressed. The IP protocal can't help us there.

I know most of my gain had everything to do with emotional eating and lack of seeking the support that would have helped thru difficult times. And difficult times are an ongoing part of life. It's all a process and we will all learn when the time is right, ya know?

Desafinado
03-20-2013, 01:56 PM
All that understood, its still crazy that the three out of three I personally know that lost on IP gained it back:( I just fear I will be added to that stat.

Be the exception. You can do it.

JohnP
03-20-2013, 02:06 PM
And is this maintenance an arduous task of calorie counting and a lot of restrictions?

Calories determine fat loss or gain. It's physics.

Maintaining one's loss means restricting calories. How one does that is really up to them but if you don't want to count calories you're going to have to follow rules that will restrict caloires.

Just because you lose the fat following the IP diet doesn't mean you have to follow the IP rules for maintaining the loss but you can read about phase 4 if you want to see the IP rules for maintinence. (I couldn't live with them)

I personally think that the primary goal all dieters should have while they're dieting is to figure out a way of eating (WOE) that they can live with forever that will allow them to restrict calories but also not make them feel too deprived.

LexiChanel1
03-20-2013, 02:36 PM
exactly;) I dont know if I can live by those rules either. Doing Phase 1 all the time? sounds really nutty to me. I really dont want to be in Phase 1 5 days a week.

Ishbel
03-20-2013, 02:39 PM
exactly;) I dont know if I can live by those rules either. Doing Phase 1 all the time? sounds really nutty to me. I really dont want to be in Phase 1 5 days a week.

I don't do Phase 1 - 5 days a week....I do Phase 1 once a week to off set a day that I eat without rules (SOMETIMES I do 2 days - it's very VERY rare and usually because I added too much sugar on my fun day)...without rules to me means I'm eating carbs and fats together...WHICH may mean having a cheese burger with a bun or having theatre popcorn (which we all know without butter is full of fats...hence fats/carbs). That doesn't mean I eat EVERYTHING I want all in one day.

Not everyone can eat following these rules which is why they are very general...you need to figure out how you're going to eat. I couldn't eat and maintain the way others eat. It's all about YOU in Phase 4 but it's YOU that has to do the work.

There is no difference in my mindset in Phase 4 as there is in Phase 1, I'm always mindful of what I eat and how it effects me.

NOTE: Others maintain quite well without fun day...check out maile in the maintenance thread...or lizzy63...I choose a fun day because that's how I choose to maintain...it has to be offset with a Phase 1 day (super light day)

lisa32989
03-20-2013, 02:45 PM
exactly;) I dont know if I can live by those rules either. Doing Phase 1 all the time? sounds really nutty to me. I really dont want to be in Phase 1 5 days a week.
Luckily, Phase 4 isn't 5 days per week of Phase 1 :)

rofl306
03-20-2013, 02:49 PM
Calories determine fat loss or gain. It's physics.

Maintaining one's loss means restricting calories. How one does that is really up to them but if you don't want to count calories you're going to have to follow rules that will restrict caloires.

Just because you lose the fat following the IP diet doesn't mean you have to follow the IP rules for maintaining the loss but you can read about phase 4 if you want to see the IP rules for maintinence. (I couldn't live with them)

I personally think that the primary goal all dieters should have while they're dieting is to figure out a way of eating (WOE) that they can live with forever that will allow them to restrict calories but also not make them feel too deprived.

I agree with so many of you but particularly with Jonh. The diet will get you there but you might find a different path for maintenance.

After all diets, you will gain the weight back if you stop paying attention to how you fuel your body. Hopefully you will have changed your eating habits to improve your health and not just lose weight.

scorbett1103
03-20-2013, 04:31 PM
exactly;) I dont know if I can live by those rules either. Doing Phase 1 all the time? sounds really nutty to me. I really dont want to be in Phase 1 5 days a week.

Maintenance is NOT doing Phase 1 during the week, every week. It is eating within a liveable plan for YOU and YOUR lifestyle/activity level during the week, and IF you choose to have one day where you loosen up your own restrictions to follow it with one phase 1 day. Nothing nutty about it.

tam67green
03-20-2013, 06:16 PM
This is a good thread! I like learning more about what happens in maintenance, since I hope to be there fairly soon.
I don't know who said it on here, but one poster wrote that in her opinion, the best thing about Phase 1 is it has taught her that she doesn't need all those carbs and all that fat to be satisfied and happy with what she eats. I think that changing mindset will be the key to keeping the weight off in maintenance. It sounds like IP maintenance has an eating plan, one that requires you to plan and be mindful of what you eat. I like that--I know myself well enough to know that I need structure and some guidelines.

evepet
03-20-2013, 06:22 PM
exactly;) I dont know if I can live by those rules either. Doing Phase 1 all the time? sounds really nutty to me. I really dont want to be in Phase 1 5 days a week.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that this happens to most IP dieters once they've reached their goal weight and are on maintenance. From what I've read on the Maintenance thread, most of them only need 1 Day of P1 after they've indulged in a Fun Day. At the most, 2 days if they really overdid it on Fun Day. I can't help but wonder if the dieters that you know personally who've lost weight on IP but then regained in maintenance, phased out properly and then followed the IP rules about separation of Carbs/Fats, etc.? As I understand it, the plan is designed to work in a certain way through P3 and maintenance and if want to give ourselves the best shot of maintaining then we need to follow the protocol properly.

Roo2
03-21-2013, 01:48 AM
This has been enlightening to read the different posts.
I plan on taking what I have learned from IP and formulating a plan that is doable for me . I know I will have to be Vigilant the rest of my life to maintain .
I think IP has given me an opportunity to see why I gained soo much weight !
Portion control, Carb intake and not ingesting food that I know medically is harmful ! No matter how delicious it is at the time ..if I'm doubled over in a half hour I got to stay away from it !
I have had no Refux, and a host of other GI issues are better while I have been on IP. So this tells be those things I was eating were the culprits. Everything I use to eat made me ill!
This diet calmed my body down . My abdomen use to blow up like a balloon and look like I was 5 months pregnant at times. I no longer wake up and night throwing up in my mouth.
I am not taking any GI meds anymore or do I have to pull off the road and run in to the nearest bathroom. I have not been sick as often requiring ABX and steroids, Headaches have improved and I have increased energy.
So for me IP has changed my life for the better and I am willing to phase off slowly to insure I maintain all the positives this diet has given me.
Losing the weight was great but not being in constant pain and sick was even better.
Roo2

chubbiegurl
03-21-2013, 03:04 AM
I always wondered about maintenance after stopping a strict diet. I was not following a certain diet before but stopped doing what I was and regained everything plus some. That is why this time I decided it was better for me to just learn to cook healthy meals that I can make forever. My weight averaged 8-9 lbs a month but it just wasnt a pain to just make almost the same things I used to make with minor adjustments and add cardio to the mix. Just my opinion don't wanna discourage or slam ip.

ginettepv
03-21-2013, 07:00 AM
This has been enlightening to read the different posts.
I plan on taking what I have learned from IP and formulating a plan that is doable for me . I know I will have to be Vigilant the rest of my life to maintain .
I think IP has given me an opportunity to see why I gained soo much weight !
Portion control, Carb intake and not ingesting food that I know medically is harmful ! No matter how delicious it is at the time ..if I'm doubled over in a half hour I got to stay away from it !
I have had no Refux, and a host of other GI issues are better while I have been on IP. So this tells be those things I was eating were the culprits. Everything I use to eat made me ill!
This diet calmed my body down . My abdomen use to blow up like a balloon and look like I was 5 months pregnant at times. I no longer wake up and night throwing up in my mouth.
I am not taking any GI meds anymore or do I have to pull off the road and run in to the nearest bathroom. I have not been sick as often requiring ABX and steroids, Headaches have improved and I have increased energy.
So for me IP has changed my life for the better and I am willing to phase off slowly to insure I maintain all the positives this diet has given me.
Losing the weight was great but not being in constant pain and sick was even better.
Roo2

Thanks Roo2. I Ditto eveything you just said. My husband used to call the bathroom my best friend as every where we would go, I would have to know where the bathroom is for fear of an emergency. aka major diarrhea. I too, have not had acid reflux, constant stomach cramping, colic, diarrhea or any symptoms. I do not experience the big C, rather I am regular for the first time in my entire life. I fear phasing off later only because of this, not of gaining weight.

This diet has allowed me to see how important it is the permanently change my eating habits to stay this healthy and happy.

Loving every day with a new energy and happiness. I can now visit places with no worries.

That is my greatest NSV.

gazelle
03-21-2013, 07:14 AM
It is interesting that we are all debating successful maintenance as related to IP, because no matter how you lose weight it is difficult to maintain. The National Weight Loss registry keeps statistics and provides ongoing advice on how to increase your odds (http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/222S.full). The fact is that maintaining your weight is more difficult than the weight loss itself regardless of how you lost it. Those of us who embrace IP know that it works for weight loss. What happens after that is not the fault of the diet! The diet works!

disgal
03-21-2013, 09:44 AM
The National Weight Loss registry keeps statistics and provides ongoing advice on how to increase your odds (http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/222S.full).

Thank you for posting!! Good read!!!:)

I don't do Phase 1 - 5 days a week....I do Phase 1 once a week to off set a day that I eat without rules (SOMETIMES I do 2 days - it's very VERY rare and usually because I added too much sugar on my fun day)...without rules to me means I'm eating carbs and fats together...WHICH may mean having a cheese burger with a bun or having theatre popcorn (which we all know without butter is full of fats...hence fats/carbs). That doesn't mean I eat EVERYTHING I want all in one day.

Not everyone can eat following these rules which is why they are very general...you need to figure out how you're going to eat. I couldn't eat and maintain the way others eat. It's all about YOU in Phase 4 but it's YOU that has to do the work.

There is no difference in my mindset in Phase 4 as there is in Phase 1, I'm always mindful of what I eat and how it effects me.



.....I always feel guilty commenting on maintenance since I gained back some of the weight after maintaining successfully for almost a year....BUT...I hope to give a little insight for new members.....

I phased out successfully "by the book" back in Fall of 2011. Like Ishbel I followed the protocol and separated carbs/fats as much as I could. I looked forward to my weekend "treat day", and always followed it with ONE DAY ON PHASE 1. I was doing so great!!! What happened? Not sure.....summer 2012....kids home, having fattening cocktails with friends in the aftn....the thought of my oldest going off to college in Sept......also having an Autistic child at home. WHO KNOWS!!! That's just life happening, and we ALL have "stuff" going on in our lives. I think I just got sloppy. As others have mentioned THIS IS A LIFE CHANGE. We can't go back to how we ate prior to IP (or prior to ANY diet for that matter). Just like brushing my teeth twice a day, I need to watch what I am putting into my mouth EVERY DAY. I'm sad that I gained some of the weight back, not to mention...umm....hello....when I was up 10 or even 20 why didn't I just get back on plan???? Guess 30 was the "number of disgust"! Grrr!! Oh well, I've since moved on and forward I shall go....
THIS time, now that I'm ALMOST at goal ( ok, so 14 lbs left to lose to me is almost goal lol), I pray that everything I have learned over the past couple of years will stay embedded in my memory for a lifetime!!!

This is an amazing plan.....a God send actually. I wish everyone the best. :hug:

.....and now, back to your regularly scheduled program....:^:

disgal
03-21-2013, 09:50 AM
Great discussions, I am everyday accepting that my eating choices will forever change. This diet is showing me that my body is very sensitive to sugar and carbs and it is toxic for my health.

For me, age makes a difference, my body is less forgiving at 50 as it was at 30. I am forever committed. It is too hard emotionally and physically to be overweight.


Agreed! As they say..... with age comes wisdom ( turning 50 next year ;)). Wish I had known about sugar and carbs about 30 years ago!!!!! :(

workingit50
03-21-2013, 10:01 AM
Great discussions, I am everyday accepting that my eating choices will forever change. This diet is showing me that my body is very sensitive to sugar and carbs and it is toxic for my health.

For me, age makes a difference, my body is less forgiving at 50 as it was at 30. I am forever committed. It is too hard emotionally and physically to be overweight.

patns
03-21-2013, 11:20 AM
I always wondered about maintenance after stopping a strict diet. I was not following a certain diet before but stopped doing what I was and regained everything plus some. That is why this time I decided it was better for me to just learn to cook healthy meals that I can make forever. My weight averaged 8-9 lbs a month but it just wasnt a pain to just make almost the same things I used to make with minor adjustments and add cardio to the mix. Just my opinion don't wanna discourage or slam ip.

Actually this is what maintenance is about following any plan. Healthy meals with some exercise. Amounts and types of foods will vary from person to person so it does take adjustment.

No matter what the plan people who have lost weight will gain faster than people who are the same weight without dieting so for quite awhile you have to be very vigilant. The key is the healthy meals and taking the time to prepare them. The lure of just grapping what is convenient is very strong in the hectic lifestyle most of us lead.

LexiChanel1
03-21-2013, 11:20 AM
Ummmm, not to be crazy but its allot harder to maintain at 120lbs than at 140 or 160:) no? Just saying

Ishbel
03-21-2013, 11:22 AM
Ummmm, not to be crazy but its allot harder to maintain at 120lbs than at 140 or 160:) no? Just saying

Lexi, I'm not sure how to take this comment...I'm slightly offended...'just saying'...I will once again, point out maile to you, who has maintained beautifully for almost a year and a half in the 120's and she's 5.6.

Thank you for a comment that seems to make my success and accomplishment less so because I'm not at a weight that perhaps you think wouldn't be difficult to maintain. As far as I know, this is peer support on these threads...before you pass judgement think about what shoes people have worn.

I'm having a difficult time with some of your comments over the last month(s). You've posted in the 100% "why do many people in here just gain it back". THEN made a thread asking deperately for help Phasing off for a wedding. Now, you've posted in this thread people who do Phase 1 for 5 days is 'nutty'...then to the reboot thread to ask for help. You do know when you cross post we can all see it...right?

Don't expect a lot of help if you have many judgements...."just saying".

Good luck to whatever you do and how ever you handle your maintenance phase (as I typed this I re-read it and I want you to know that I'm truly not being snarky I do wish you well). I believe that you'll be great at it because you are so concerned with doing well and doing it right. I'm sure you'll pay attention to your body and figure out your own maintenance path. :)

patns
03-21-2013, 11:28 AM
Ummmm, not to be crazy but its allot harder to maintain at 120lbs than at 140 or 160:) no? Just saying

Depends on your height and BMI. The truth is at 5'1" I always should have been eating less than my taller friends. The other component as someone mentioned is age. Every decade makes it harder and your 40s is not old. It is after about 55 for women when it gets tougher and tougher so do yourself a favor if you get it off when you are younger, really focus on keeping it off.

evepet
03-21-2013, 11:33 AM
Ummmm, not to be crazy but its allot harder to maintain at 120lbs than at 140 or 160:) no? Just saying

I would think it depends at least to some extent on whether the 120lbs, 140lbs, or 160lbs is in line with one's body type and height. It's harder to maintain an unrealistic weight, that's for sure. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but as a 'youngster' in my teens through mid-40s, weight maintenance was much more do-able. (As was weight loss, when a few extra lbs did sneak on). For me, it was hitting the peri-menopausal (mid 40's ) & post-menopausal years where I've found it most difficult to maintain.

scorbett1103
03-21-2013, 11:43 AM
Ummmm, not to be crazy but its allot harder to maintain at 120lbs than at 140 or 160:) no? Just saying

Just saying, you know that answer is going to be different for everyone.

Age, health, height, body type/bone structure all factor into what is a healthy, maintainable weight for each person.

That is why when I chose my "goal" it wasn't really a hard number. It was based more on my body shape, how I felt, and what I felt was maintainable based on the level of activity I want to keep up.

Could I have gotten down to 145? Probably. But I would have had to adopt an eating style and level of exercise that would not have made me happy. I don't care that much about the actual number to sacrifice my mental well-being for it. So I stopped and phased off when I felt good about my shape, and was at a place I could maintain with a healthy diet of foods I liked, balance between eating and exercise, and not stressing myself out over what the scale was telling me.

Part of maintaining is deciding where that "happy" place is for you, personally...including what you would have to do to stay there.

glomor
03-21-2013, 12:39 PM
I'm interested in this thread because I've been maintaining since the end of January. I was a bit disheartened because the gal who inspired me by losing 100 pounds has gained quite a bit of it back. I know it is going to take constant vigilance on my part for the rest of my life, to avoid falling into the same place. I've lost large amounts of weight before, but I've never been successful in keeping it off. At my age of 66, I tell myself it's a matter of life and death. I want to continue the improved quality of life that my weight loss has given me. I feel that IP has given me the tools that I need, if I choose to use them, to continue a healthier lifestyle. It has also given me insights into the trigger foods and what I need to avoid.

That being said, I've found the splurge day a bit difficult to handle. For one thing, it is hard to schedule it. I want it to be for special occasions, but various things have caused the schedule to get screwed up and I find that a day I had planned isn't happening. Or sometimes there will be two special occasions in a week, and I have to make choices.

Usually when I have the splurge day, I eat basic IP Phase 2 or 3 for two meals and splurge on a main meal. Even then, the splurge isn't "whole hog" but rather maybe ordering one splurge item from a menu and adding a dessert. Even with the limited splurge my weight skyrockets the following day and I have to go back on program for at least 2 days to get the weight off.

My normal routine is weighing myself every day. If my weight goes up above my goal weight, I get right back on the program, or at least Phase 2, until it comes down. I've been hovering at a pound or two below goal for most of the past two months. :)

My routine seems a bit odd, maybe not exactly what I expected, but so far it seems to be working. I visit my clinic once a month now, and will continue that for at least a year. I continue to depend on protein bars and shakes--I know I will never be able to eat the way I used to. As I said, I consider it a matter of life and death. And also I've gotten rid of my fat clothes and I can't afford a new wardrobe! :lol:

So now I'm going to head over to the maintainer's thread and see how everyone is doing. It is great to have this forum to encourage one another! :hug:

IdealProteinNewbie
03-21-2013, 01:28 PM
Bravo Ishbel! I have noticed the same trend you have and never vocalized my feelings.

I lurk in the maintenance threads because I want to absorb everything I can from you, Maile, LizRR and all the other champions out there.

Your journey, continued success and vigilance has inspired me more than you will ever know!

I am also hoping you find your perfect wedding shoes :D

JohnP
03-21-2013, 01:42 PM
I thought I would just point out that from a health perspective one can be overweight and extremely healthy just as you can be very skinny and unhealthy. Whether one chooses to maintain at 20% body fat or 28% body fat really has little bearing on their health.

Regular exercise is a huge contributor to one's health. It doesn't take a large amount of exercise to be healthy but focusing on a specific number on the scale is taking the focus away from where it should be, on your health.

The other contributor is diet. So long as your diet is comprised primarily of a variety whole foods you're probably doing just fine.

But yes - maintaining at 20% (for a woman) is certainly not as easy as maintaining at 28% body fat for a number of reasons. Note: I'm not using scale weight which is a meaningless figure by itself.

LexiChanel1
03-21-2013, 02:08 PM
I am 5 foot 120, nt 5"7". If I was very tall I would obviously raise my goal weight. My body fat right now is 19%. Very healthy. My weight is not low at all. I was trying to make the point that someone that weighs 140 can eat upwards of 1800 calories a day to maintain. Someone who weighs 120 like me for example has to exercise and eat healthy allot more than that due to the calories to maintain being extremely low. I have to eat less than 1200 calories if I am not exercising. I do choose to exercise 5-6 days a week therefore I am in phase 3 and tracking at 1500-1600 cal a day and maintaining for now:) For me health is number 1. I am stating a fact, no need to hate on me so much:) I am a short mediocre woman, no need to hate.

LexiChanel1
03-21-2013, 02:16 PM
I maintained from Labor day to New years at 140lbs, I ate everything, I mean everything...... didnt really diet at all:) Ended my pregnancy at 154. Lost 14 on my own, went on IP to lose another 22 lbs, Hindsight is 20/20.

Ishbel
03-21-2013, 02:46 PM
Ishbel,

Thank you for pointing that out about the person thats 5'4' and 120.....So you see that my goal is quite healthy at 5 feet. You have been following me very closely, which flatters me and makes me feel thankful for your kind words:)

Lexi, it's hard to miss ya...you'll be fine, good luck!

LexiChanel1
03-21-2013, 02:54 PM
Ishbel,

Thank you for pointing that out about the person thats 5'4' and 120.....So you see that my goal is quite healthy at 5 feet. You have been following me very closely, which flatters me and makes me feel thankful for your kind words:)

JohnP
03-21-2013, 05:37 PM
My body fat right now is 19%.

If this is accurate than at your goal weight would put you at around 10% body fat. (http://forum.maximumfitnessconsulting.com/blog/?p=796)

GreatLakes86
03-21-2013, 07:42 PM
If this is accurate than at your goal weight would put you at around 10% body fat.

This is exactly what I was thinking. And the comments about weight are off-base. Muscle weighs more than fat so if you are trying to build muscle (and maintain that level of muscle) you might have a more difficult time maintaining a higher weight. It depends what your goals are. Measurements mean more than weight. And an accurate body fat measurement goes a long way also. The scale is one small piece of the puzzle.

lisa32989
03-21-2013, 10:11 PM
Ishbel :hug:

JenRem
03-22-2013, 02:19 AM
.....I always feel guilty commenting on maintenance since I gained back some of the weight after maintaining successfully for almost a year....BUT...I hope to give a little insight for new members.....
I phased out successfully "by the book" back in Fall of 2011. Like Ishbel I followed the protocol and separated carbs/fats as much as I could. I looked forward to my weekend "treat day", and always followed it with ONE DAY ON PHASE 1. I was doing so great!!! What happened? Not sure.....summer 2012....kids home, having fattening cocktails with friends in the aftn....the thought of my oldest going off to college in Sept......also having an Autistic child at home. WHO KNOWS!!! That's just life happening, and we ALL have "stuff" going on in our lives. I think I just got sloppy. As others have mentioned THIS IS A LIFE CHANGE. We can't go back to how we ate prior to IP (or prior to ANY diet for that matter). Just like brushing my teeth twice a day, I need to watch what I am putting into my mouth EVERY DAY. I'm sad that I gained some of the weight back, not to mention...umm....hello....when I was up 10 or even 20 why didn't I just get back on plan???? Guess 30 was the "number of disgust"! Grrr!! Oh well, I've since moved on and forward I shall go....
THIS time, now that I'm ALMOST at goal ( ok, so 14 lbs left to lose to me is almost goal lol), I pray that everything I have learned over the past couple of years will stay embedded in my memory for a lifetime!!!
This is an amazing plan.....a God send actually.

You should NOT feel guilty - you are a maintainer. Keeping all the WL off for over a year is no easy feat! You just fell down and are in the process of picking yourself back up! I enjoy reading your posts and not only have you inspired me, but countless others. After you hit goal, you will be that much stronger in your conviction to making maintenance work for you! Keep up the great job and hold that head high! :hug::carrot::hug:

I'm interested in this thread because I've been maintaining since the end of January.
I was a bit disheartened because the gal who inspired me by losing 100 pounds has gained quite a bit of it back.

Congrats on maintaining for the last 2 months. You can do it!
I'm so proud of you!
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Maybe you will have an opportunity to "help" the gal re-claim her WL. Do you know her well enough to meet her for coffee and see if you can do anything to assist her in refocusing her journey? Does she know about this site where she can get a lot of support?
I guess I'm just thinking if I was in her shoes, it might be nice if someone who is also doing IP went out of their way to see if they could help me get back on track (and to not gain the whole 100 lbs back and then some).
Just an idea.....

disgal
03-22-2013, 05:18 AM
You should NOT feel guilty - you are a maintainer. Keeping all the WL off for over a year is no easy feat! You just fell down and are in the process of picking yourself back up! I enjoy reading your posts and not only have you inspired me, but countless others. After you hit goal, you will be that much stronger in your conviction to making maintenance work for you! Keep up the great job and hold that head high! :hug::carrot::hug:
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!! It's only 5AM and you have already made my day!!:hug:

cbl70
03-22-2013, 10:02 AM
I personally think that the primary goal all dieters should have while they're dieting is to figure out a way of eating (WOE) that they can live with forever that will allow them to restrict calories but also not make them feel too deprived.

I don't always agree with John but this one is spot on!

Before IP I never thought about how I was going to maintain. This time (with IP) I felt like I was in training for maintenance. Since December 2012 I've maintained my weight within a 4 lb range at around 8 lbs below my goal. Other than walking occasionally, I still haven't added exercise.

What do I do? Most days look like Phase 3 except I add cheese to my salad and use regular dressing. I still have a snack or two everyday. And I don't do "cheat days" but rather "cheat meals" two or three times per week.
This will not work for everyone but this is what works for me.

Msbehaving
03-22-2013, 10:50 AM
All that understood, its still crazy that the three out of three I personally know that lost on IP gained it back:( I just fear I will be added to that stat.

So given that information...what will you do differently to ensure that it won't happen to you?

I'm figuring out that this is probably how I am going to need to eat FOREVER if I am to keep the weight off FOREVER. Minus the packets, but replacing them with high quality lean protein, protein shakes, lots of veggies, etc. Keep my protein up, my calories down....and incorporate more exercise. I too worry greatly about the future....but if it is to be different it is up to me. Because so many people on any diet gain their weight back shows difficult it can be to change ourselves. Difficult but not impossible. We have to expect and DO something different.

(not ranting at you...this is mostly me telling me how it has to be!)

JohnP
03-22-2013, 01:30 PM
I don't always agree with John but this one is spot on!

You should always let me know when you don't agree. I rarely speculate so if I post something and you don't agree, one of us has an opportunity to learn something new. Hopefully, that person will be me. Not to be selfish but I'm always looking to learn.

JenRem
03-22-2013, 01:53 PM
Before IP I never thought about how I was going to maintain. This time (with IP) I felt like I was in training for maintenance. Since December 2012 I've maintained my weight within a 4 lb range at around 8 lbs below my goal. Other than walking occasionally, I still haven't added exercise.

What do I do? Most days look like Phase 3 except I add cheese to my salad and use regular dressing. I still have a snack or two everyday. And I don't do "cheat days" but rather "cheat meals" two or three times per week.
This will not work for everyone but this is what works for me.

Thank you so much for sharing. I have not started lurking in the Maintainers Thread yet, (too early - still a lot to lose) but I'm hoping there is a lot of real usable information there like this.
I really appreciate your insight. The statement "This time (with IP) I felt like I was in training for maintenance", really spoke to me. This is how I've been feeling, but you put it into words and said it perfectly. Also, I really love your input on having a few "cheat meals" (I will call them "free meals" instead of cheat - cheat has a negative connotation to me!) throughout the week rather than a "cheat day". This makes so much sense to me.... This whole time I've been struggling with how to handle the "cheat day". As others have stated, sometimes it's hard to decide when to do this if you have 2-3 potential functions for that week. So, rather than having a "cheat day" that week, I could partake in a couple of "cheat meals". Of course, all this while paying close attention to how my clothes are fitting and the allowable/reasonable range on the scale. And following the "cheat meals" up with some appropriate P1 time.
I'm just soo excited, my mind is really playing with this idea and I love it! :D

Thanks again. Jen