Body Image and Issues after Weight Loss - I have an idea involving loose skin - calling maintainers!




berryblondeboys
03-18-2013, 09:48 AM
We get tons and tons and tons of posts about people worrying about loose skin. People wondering what they will look like after, etc. I know I did.

So, I have this hair-brained idea. How about we show our loose skin or find an image that looks similar to our bodies to give an idea to newbies and others about what they might look like at after loosing 25, 50, 75, 100, 150, 200 pounds. (There are tons of plastic surgery before and after photos to search for body doubles if you don't want to take a picture of your body).

Now... I know some people might not want to have images of themselves associated with photos, so we can do this mostly anonymously. I would know, but that's it. I would be willing to take PMs of people's photos and then post them on your behalf.

I would need info like this:

How much have you lost?
How old were you when you lost the weight?
How long were you at your high weight?
Are you still losing weight?
How long did it take you to lose the weight?
Did you have weight loss surgery?
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks?
Do you have weight gain stretch marks?
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining?

Then, your posting would look like this:

Photo(s)

Lost: 100 pounds
Age at weight loss: 35
Number of years at high weight: 15
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? No
Fat gain stretch marks? Yes
Still losing weight: No, in maintenance
How long did it take you to lose the weight: 3 years, but in starts and stops
Months/Years maintaining: 2 years

No one would know who it was. I could even be cryptic, so like if you lost 103 pounds, I would just say 100 so that people couldn't piece it together in other ways on the forum of finding your signature and seeing 103 and figuring out that a photo is yours. Same with age. Say you were 34, I would say 35, etc. (if you wish).

In progress photos are also great - we can get some before, during, at end of weight loss and after maintaining awhile (like 6 months or a year or so), so that people can see the rate of skin shrinkage.

Or, of course, you could just take photos of yourself and or find a body double and post those photos on your own, non-anonymously.

If any photos were sent with head shots, I would blur the faces. If any photos were sent with crotch shots or boob shots, I would crop those out/blur them so that we don't get into porno territory.

What do you think gals and guys?

And the more people who participate, the more we can see that we are all different and our bodies react/respond to weight loss differently too.


mimsyborogoves
03-18-2013, 11:42 AM
I actually think this is a fantastic idea... it would really put things in perspective! I like the way you think, Melissa!

mandypandy2246
03-18-2013, 11:53 AM
I think that is a GREAT idea. I had this idea in my head that loose skin was going to be really really bad - based on the internet pictures I could find. Then you (Melissa) showed your body double - and you lost about the same as I hope to, and it really wasn't so bad - you had a stomach I would love to have compared to my fat stomach!

So I think this is a good idea to show the reality - because there is a wide range of experiences/results. I also think that when you google it ,you tend to get the extreme bad ones which is demotivational to weight loss.


Daki
03-18-2013, 12:06 PM
I think this is a fabulous idea. I would also like to see post weight loss stretch marks if anyone would like to anonymously submit that.

joefla70
03-18-2013, 12:06 PM
I think its a good idea. Is there any other information anybody thinks might be helpful besides (1) # of pounds lost and (2) age at weight loss? For example, I think an important factor may be the number of years at a particular weight. Personally, I was over 300 for about 20 years -- and over 400 pounds for some of that time. Loose skin might not be as much of a problem for someone who hasn't been at a high weight for as long. (Of course, the age of one's weight loss may reflect that, but not necessarily.) Also, the number of times we have lost and gained a significant amount of weight might also be a factor. Personally, I have lost and gained over 60 pounds a few times during the past 20 years. For women, the number of pregnancies might be a factor.

QuilterInVA
03-18-2013, 12:31 PM
Not a good idea. Every body is different and it could actually discourage some people from losing weight. There are so many factors involved, age, rate of weight loss, genetics, height that it's impossible to predict for anyone based on someone else.

joefla70
03-18-2013, 12:45 PM
Not a good idea. Every body is different and it could actually discourage some people from losing weight. There are so many factors involved, age, rate of weight loss, genetics, height that it's impossible to predict for anyone based on someone else.

I see your point. I suppose it could discourage somebody from losing weight, but that doesn't mean its a bad idea. All that the OP is suggesting is that we provide people with information. What people do with this information is up to them. Everybody here is a big girl / boy. I don't think its reasonable to deprive people who want the information from having it just because some may get discouraged by it.

And with all due respect, the people who may be discouraged from losing weight due to seeing pictures of excess skin would probably be either (1) people who do not have that much weight to lose (so health may not be the motivating factor for losing weight), or (2) are obese, but are more concerned with their appearance than the health ramifications of being obese, and would prefer to be obese rater than having the possibility of excess skin. I admit that it would be a shame to see somebody decide not to lose weight because they think they are going to have excess skin, but I'm sorry, if somebody is going to be so vain that they are more troubled by excess skin that being dangerously obese, then they have more serious issues than the obesity, and should be seeing a mental health professional.

berryblondeboys
03-18-2013, 01:05 PM
Not a good idea. Every body is different and it could actually discourage some people from losing weight. There are so many factors involved, age, rate of weight loss, genetics, height that it's impossible to predict for anyone based on someone else.

it could be seen this way, but I also think that if enough people do it, they can see, just like we all look different anyway, we will all look different AFTER losing weight too.

How I look at losing 100 pounds will be different from how X looks like at losing 100 pounds. I think people tend to focus on ONE image in their head because that's all they can find and then get all worried for no reason. I know a woman at my gym who is 10 years older than me, the same height, overweight for decades and she has like NO loose skin. You just can't know what will be and the more photos we have to compare, the more we can realize we will have to wait and see.

berryblondeboys
03-18-2013, 01:09 PM
I think its a good idea. Is there any other information anybody thinks might be helpful besides (1) # of pounds lost and (2) age at weight loss? For example, I think an important factor may be the number of years at a particular weight. Personally, I was over 300 for about 20 years -- and over 400 pounds for some of that time. Loose skin might not be as much of a problem for someone who hasn't been at a high weight for as long. (Of course, the age of one's weight loss may reflect that, but not necessarily.) Also, the number of times we have lost and gained a significant amount of weight might also be a factor. Personally, I have lost and gained over 60 pounds a few times during the past 20 years. For women, the number of pregnancies might be a factor.

That's in interesting factor too.

And the pregnancy too - I can ask for that more info in PMs if I receive any (and I have received some emails saying people want to do this).

Like, for me, the stretch marks on my tummy are ALLLLL baby stretch marks. I was over 200, around 215 when I got pregnant, but didn't have stretch marks there until pregnancy. And it's the stretch marks inability to shrink back up that is causing the most problems on my tummy.

But I did get "fat" stretch marks on my thighs, butts, underarms and back of knees.

I've updated the original post to reflect these requests.

getmydivaback3
03-18-2013, 01:19 PM
Great Idea

Mozzy
03-18-2013, 01:23 PM
I'm in, I'm not a maintainer, but after 40lbs lost, you can see a difference in my tummy

mandypandy2246
03-18-2013, 02:32 PM
I'd like to reiterate that I think it is a good idea - just for the very reason Quilter said ..... googling images of "loose skin after weight loss" is really depresing - cause you find the EXTREME examples. I think showing the myriad of results - from some people really not having it so bad, gives you up. Plus seeing it sets you up for realistic expectations. I think its sad when people post about hating their body even more now that they've lost weight.

amandie
03-18-2013, 02:54 PM
I like this idea, I do understand Quilter's point but I'm with Joe. I'm in as well although I'm not a maintainer yet!

ReillyJ
03-18-2013, 03:37 PM
Not a good idea. Every body is different and it could actually discourage some people from losing weight. There are so many factors involved, age, rate of weight loss, genetics, height that it's impossible to predict for anyone based on someone else.

Exactly the point FOR the OP's suggestion, in my opinion :). Showing many different types of bodies after various stages of weight loss could be motivating and helpful and inspiring, kind of like another posters link to what "real women's" breasts look like--the link showed many different ages and sizes of women and what breasts look like instead of what we are shown in the media-air brushed and (what they consider) perfect.

i for one am interested (dunno if i'll get the guts to post mine, maybe i'll get around to it) because i'd like to know especially what loose tummy skin looks like as i'm finding it difficult to ascertain where the stubborn fat ends and loose skin begins on me (having lost 100 lbs) and yes to quote someone else, i think we are all big girls and boys here. :)

Silverfire
03-18-2013, 03:38 PM
I think its a great idea!!!

joefla70
03-18-2013, 03:49 PM
For those of you who may be interested (and who haven't already seen it) there is a site called realself.com which shows before and after pictures of various plastic surgeries. One part of the site is devoted to "body lifts" which people get after losing a lot of weight. Here is a link:

http://www.realself.com/Body-lift/reviews

*WARNING * - Some people have posted pictures of themselves nude, so there is definitely NSFW content on the website. The "before" pictures are probably the type that some are concerned about scaring people away from weight loss. Please bear in mind that these are the examples of people who elected to get surgery. These people are not representative of all people who have lost significant amounts of weight.

Mozzy
03-18-2013, 04:20 PM
For those of you who may be interested (and who haven't already seen it) there is a site called realself.com which shows before and after pictures of various plastic surgeries. One part of the site is devoted to "body lifts" which people get after losing a lot of weight. Here is a link:

http://www.realself.com/Body-lift/reviews

*WARNING * - Some people have posted pictures of themselves nude, so there is definitely NSFW content on the website. The "before" pictures are probably the type that some are concerned about scaring people away from weight loss. Please bear in mind that these are the examples of people who elected to get surgery. These people are not representative of all people who have lost significant amounts of weight.


Thanks for the link!

ChickieChicks
03-18-2013, 04:24 PM
Lost: 60+ pounds
Age at weight loss: 29-30
Number of years at high weight: 5
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? YES!!
Fat gain stretch marks? Probably. (Combo of pregnancy and excessive weight gain.)
How long did it take you to lose the weight: 7 months, then toning
Months/Years maintaining: Almost 2 years

From the front, standing. (Flexing. Looks pretty flat. You can see my abs, but they are still covered by a pocket of skin/fat.)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/babyheckel/DSC01440_zps68e0b305.jpg

From the side, standing. (Flexing, of course! The small belly bulge is just skin and wont ever go away without surgery.) Stretchmarks. (I have them covering every square inch from my calves to my hips. Only 2-3 on my belly.)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/babyheckel/DSC01438_zps2b5e870b.jpg


Bending. (This is my lovely "pooch" of saggy skin and fat. I have 20% body fat and you can see all my ribs when i bend over...THIS will not go away without surgery.)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/babyheckel/DSC01439_zpscaf55f4c.jpg

Side view. (My thighs and butt have shrunk considerably, but I will always be a pear. My myriad of stretchmarks will not allow my legs to shrink any further...no more elasticity.)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f112/babyheckel/DSC01433_zps0ae06d59.jpg

My experience is that I DID shrink down, even in areas that are covered in stretchmarks. However, only my stomach has the "wrinkly" appearance, and only when sitting/bending. I've toned up quite a bit, and for me, this is as good as it gets, and I am very happy with it.

ReillyJ
03-18-2013, 04:41 PM
Wow you look fantastic, way to go!!

berryblondeboys
03-18-2013, 04:50 PM
Chickiechicks, you look fantastic and I would not say you have a pooch on your stomach at all. Everyone has folds when they bend over! And look at your hot booty! Dang!! You look great!

ChickieBoom
03-18-2013, 04:53 PM
You look amazing! I would be thrilled to look that good in a bikini.

ChickieChicks
03-18-2013, 05:17 PM
Thanks. :o

I really want to show that some skin does bounce back. Not all the way, but it can. I was deathly afraid of losing weight, because I had so many stretchmarks that I was sure I would turn into a sharpei dog. ;) I see it a lot on here, too, people being literally scared to lose weight, because of the potential skin issues.

And trust me, I hate my stomach. It is logical or justified, probably not, but we will all have our issues regardless. :dizzy:

Daki
03-19-2013, 12:20 AM
I can only hope I'll look half as fantastic as you, Chickie!

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 09:41 AM
I have a couple anonymous submissions I'll be posting this afternoon, but wanted to give this a bump!

joefla70
03-19-2013, 11:00 AM
I chimed in above to give my feedback, but alas -- I am not maintaining yet. I have lost 117 so far, but I have about 60 - 70 pounds to go. (I was aiming to get down to 220, but as I am losing weight, I realized that I am not going to lose all of this excess skin, and I wonder how much that actually weighs. Thus, if it weighs 15 pounds, I am wondering if it is more realistic for my goal weight to be 235). Anyway, I am not worrying about it now. The only reason why I have a "goal weight" at all is (1) because that was my lowest adult weight back when I was in college and lost 40 pounds. (I was 260 when I graduated high school); and (2) because the user profile for this website has a place to put that information. But otherwise, I really don't have any set "goal." I'll keep losing as long as I need to, and I'll stop when that happens and move to the maintenance phase.

But anyway, I digress. The purpose of this post is to inquire whether I should post any pictures of my current body state of loose skin, given that I still have almost 70 pounds left to lose. Would this be of any use or interest to anybody? I will hold back unless somebody says yes, because (1) I am not at my goal weight yet and (2) I noticed that most - maybe all - of the other people who have posted in this topic are women, so you all probably aren't interested in seeing pictures of a flabby, hairy guy with loose skin - and I don't blame you! It was disturbing to me to take the pictures! But like I said, I got 'em if anybody wants to see. Oh,and here are the statistics:

Lost: 117 pounds so far, ~68 to go until goal.
Age at weight loss: 42-43
Number of years at high weight: 20+ years over 300. A few years over 400.
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? No! (LOL)
Fat gain stretch marks? Yes.
How long did it take you to lose the weight: 7 1/2 months so far. Still losing.
Months/Years maintaining: Not there yet.

Other factors: I have lost and gained weights exceeding 40 pounds about 3 or 4 times in the past 20 years. When I have gained the weight back, I put on an additional 30 to 40 pounds each time.

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 12:06 PM
Joefla70, I think in your case, (and others in similar situations), that an "in progress" photo is fine. Might be awesome actually so that people can really SEE how skin does shrink up over time. So, as you get to goal, show that, and perhaps after maintaining too - I'm going to go amend the OP to mention that.

And, you won't be the only guy photos - I have another anonymously.

Leaves
03-19-2013, 12:24 PM
If I look like you Chickie, I'll be beyond thrilled! I'm a similar height to you and have the same target weight, so it's such an inspiration to see your pictures, thankyou! :)

joefla70
03-19-2013, 02:18 PM
Joefla70, I think in your case, (and others in similar situations), that an "in progress" photo is fine. Might be awesome actually so that people can really SEE how skin does shrink up over time. So, as you get to goal, show that, and perhaps after maintaining too - I'm going to go amend the OP to mention that.

And, you won't be the only guy photos - I have another anonymously.


Ok, don't say I didn't warn you! :D

Without further adieu, here they are:


Lost: 117 pounds so far, ~68 to go until goal.
Starting weight was 404.5. Current weight is 288.5.
Starting pant size 60. Current pant size 42.
Age at weight loss: 42-43
Number of years at high weight: 20+ years over 300. A few years over 400.
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? No! (LOL)
Fat gain stretch marks? Yes.
How long did it take you to lose the weight: 7 1/2 months so far. Still losing.
Months/Years maintaining: Not there yet.

Other factors: I have lost and gained weights exceeding 40 pounds about 3 or 4 times in the past 20 years. When I have gained the weight back, I put on an additional 30 to 40 pounds each time.


Here is a picture of me with my new size 42 pants that I just wore for the first time today. Woo hoo!
(Although, you can see a preview of the man-boobs picture here through my shirt. Boo hoo!
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee390/joefla70/Clothed.jpg

Arm sag and side-chest sag:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee390/joefla70/Armsag.jpg

More arm sag:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee390/joefla70/Morearmsag.jpg

Uggh! Ok, prepare yourselves for... hairy man-boobs! This is what I warned you about! Oh, and side chest sag too:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee390/joefla70/Man-boobsandsidechestsag.jpg

Gut:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee390/joefla70/gut.jpg


Ok, ladies and gentlemen, as bad as these pictures are, I assure that the before pictures were worse. Sure, there wasn't as much sag, but where there wasn't sag, THERE WAS FAT! So, I'll take the sag because of the fact that I can fit my comparatively less-fat a$$ into size 42 pants now, rather than the size 60 pants that I was wearing last year. More importantly, I feel better ... physically and mentally -- knowing that I am doing something great not only for myself, but for my wife and children. The main reason for doing this was so that I can be around - and be healthy - for as long as possible!

joefla70
03-19-2013, 06:05 PM
Melissa... I think I scared people away from this thread with my pics! LOL!

elvislover324
03-19-2013, 06:35 PM
You are doing great, Joefla!! And you look so happy today in your new pants!! Thanks so much for sharing, I give you and everyone else so much credit.

cherrypie
03-19-2013, 06:41 PM
Great job Joe! congrats on the weight loss!

Garnet2727
03-19-2013, 06:47 PM
Wow Joe! You've come a very long way! Congratulations!

Ya know, the way your skin looks, I think that a lot of the sag is going to go away on its own once you're done losing weight.

CherryQuinn
03-19-2013, 06:52 PM
I took a look at the realself site, seems to me , and im not judging here, that a lot of the people getting the surgeries are still at an overweight weight? Its their choice of course but I'd wait until goal and try maintaining and toning first before major surgery or maybe they are at goal and the loose skin gives the illusion they are still obese? I'm just curious

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 09:10 PM
Joe you didn't scare anyone away. People I think are just too afraid/shy to post!

You are looking great and I think you might be surprised at how much the skin will keep shrinking up.

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 09:13 PM
I took a look at the realself site, seems to me , and im not judging here, that a lot of the people getting the surgeries are still at an overweight weight? Its their choice of course but I'd wait until goal and try maintaining and toning first before major surgery or maybe they are at goal and the loose skin gives the illusion they are still obese? I'm just curious

I don't understand surgery before maintenance either. I can understand if something is reallllly bad and needs attention because it's affecting the quality of life, but otherwise, a procedure done too early can be so easily undone by bad diet. I would be terrified of messing up a painful surgery!

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 09:29 PM
From an anonymous male:

Height: 6'4
High Weight: 415lbs
Age at Start of Weight Loss: 26
Weight Lost: 160lbs
Time Above 375lbs: 3 years. Obese since childhood.
Weight Loss Surgery: Yes. Lap band.
Length of Weight Loss: Year and a half
Time at Maintenance: 2 years
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo6_zps7291fe58.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo7_zps062378ca.jpg

Vex
03-19-2013, 09:54 PM
Joe - thanks for posting that link, I like that it has the approximate cost up there as well.

Saga
03-19-2013, 10:29 PM
These posts are so helpful to help me visualize and be realistic about my future body. It also gives me a lot of hope! Thank you everyone who's shared their pictures - you guys are awesome.

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 11:07 PM
From an anonymous female:

How much have you lost? around 85 pounds
How old were you when you lost the weight? early 20s
How long were you at your high weight? since early childhood - gaining over time.
How long did it take you to lose the weight? about 1 year
Did you have weight loss surgery? No
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks? Never been pregnant
Do you have weight gain stretch marks? Yes, everywhere, but they're very faint
How long have you been maintaining? Still losing weight, but close to maintenance goal weight.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo1_zps71e14873.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo2_zps890a3567.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo3_zps81726ad9.jpg

berryblondeboys
03-19-2013, 11:33 PM
Check out this 3fc's pre-op and post-op photos. I'm sure she will pipe up if you have questions for her.

These photos are pre-surgery:

She had lost 210 pounds
She had reached maintenance (minus the weight of the loose skin)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/IMG_3160_zps9a5cd4ec.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_31611_zps9467884a.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_3163_zpsdd4fa875.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_3166_zps956fa8f6.jpg

Post surgery (and these are when she was still healing - photos taken 2 weeks post-op). She looks FABULOUS!!!! This was about a year ago I believe.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1838_zps7e9161d6.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1839_zps6dd1bb92.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1840_zps876aedb6.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1845_zpsdbd81598.jpg

joefla70
03-20-2013, 01:19 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words. :) Melissa, I hope you're right about the loose skin firming up, but I'm not holding my breath! But I'm not that worried about it. I can't imaging having surgery unless it was necessary.

Radiojane
03-20-2013, 01:35 AM
These are really informative and inspiring pictures! I'm starting to deal with loose skin, but I still have 120 pounds to go.

berryblondeboys
03-20-2013, 11:25 AM
Ok, I'm not a maintainer (yet). I want to lose 20 more pounds (about), but I've been maintaining around this weight for over a year and my skin HAS shrunk up quite a bit in that time.

How much have you lost? 93 pounds
How old were you when you lost the weight? 42
How long were you at your high weight? 2 years at 275 about 10 years at 265, but I've been creeping up overweight for my entire adulthood.
Are you still losing weight? Yes
How long did it take you to lose the weight? 1 year and a year of bouncing 20 pounds trying to take off the last 20 pounds.
Did you have weight loss surgery? No.
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks? All the stomach marks are from pregnancy.
Do you have weight gain stretch marks? On thigh,s upper arms and back of knees
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining? Not in maintainance, but I've been around this weigh for 15 months.

Oh> I exercise 5-6 times a week, including weight training. My resting heart rate is 52. My body fat percentage right now (per bodpod) is 33 percent.

ETA: I thought about waiting until I get to goal (again), but I will just be thinner. The loose skin will be about the same.

What looks like a fold/apron, isn't exactly. The belly does droop, obviously, but it doesn't fold over on itself to make a fold, so I don't get rashes, etc. in the apron/loose skin.

In the last year, the arms have definitely shrunken up as has the tummy and inner thighs, but I think they've shrunk up as much as it will.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo11_zps7b88a3f6.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo21_zps4df92bdf.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/photo31_zpsa5e34562.jpg

Garnet2727
03-20-2013, 11:28 AM
Wow berryblondeboys, if I end up looking like you do, I will be soooooo happy! Seriously, you look great after having lost all that weight! Your picture has done more than any other one I've looked at to calm me down about loose skin.

CherryQuinn
03-20-2013, 12:11 PM
Yes thank you berry. I am at a similar body fat percentage and height right now so it gives me hope! I can't do weight training due to my health :( but maybe I can increase the walking and light dancing I am able to do.

berryblondeboys
03-20-2013, 02:46 PM
Ah thank you! I figured, I couldn't ask other people to show their bodies if I wasn't willing to show mine and non-anonymously

I'll post again when I hit goal weight so that it's even easier to see loose skin/versus fat. As right now I do have extra fat on my body that I'm trying to work off (again).

getmydivaback3
03-20-2013, 03:35 PM
This is an amazing and inspiring thread.

ReillyJ
03-20-2013, 03:43 PM
is that ab definition i see? awesome! i kind of look like the above, also. I am very heartened to know that it will tighten up over time. i think what i'm most upset about is the "loose folds" along the side of my mouth and lower cheek. most people wouldn't think of it that way but it looks that way to me and i am so hoping that will smooth out a bit as i was kind of in maintenance mode at 172 for 5 months but recently in the last few months got down to pretty much goal at 160 so i KIND of have been a maintainer for 6 or so months but also have lost 10 or so lbs which was even more noticeable in my face SO... hoping over the course of this year things will kind of go into place more

GOOD JOB Melissa :)

berryblondeboys
03-20-2013, 03:55 PM
I'm amazed at all these photos - at how resilient the body is.

Like the gal who lost 210 pounds. Before the surgery, it's hard to see how thin she is. The doctor told her she was, just that the skin was overwhelming her body. After the surgery, it's totally obvious how thin she really had gotten to be! And that was TWO WEEKS post-op.

We need NEW photos deary to show your rocking body!

And then the 20 something gal who had been overweigh since a young child. Look how little loose skin there is on that tummy and I bet the arms will shrink up more with time (Mine did).

And to Joe - going from a 60" pant to 42". I mean... think on that a minute. It's AMAZING!!!!

CherryPie99
03-20-2013, 04:33 PM
Well, since you asked.....

Those photos are of me! I lost 7 pounds of skin during the surgery and have lost an additional 12 or so.

My thighs are reaaaaalllly still bad, and I have bat wings, but not terrible...

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zlf76b.jpg

berryblondeboys
03-20-2013, 04:44 PM
Well, since you asked.....

Those photos are of me! I lost 7 pounds of skin during the surgery and have lost an additional 12 or so.

My thighs are reaaaaalllly still bad, and I have bat wings, but not terrible...

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zlf76b.jpg

You really do look amazing!

joefla70
03-20-2013, 05:22 PM
You really do look amazing!

Yes, I concur! I was curious how much the excess skin would weigh. I bet on me it will be well into the double digits. I may have to revise my goal weight based upon an estimate of what the excess skin weighs. I was shooting for 220, but now I am wondering if 235 is a more realistic goal. Well, I'll be thrilled to get to 235 in any event. I guess I'll just wait until I get there to figure out if I need to go down more.

Song of Surly
03-20-2013, 06:03 PM
I just wanted to say that I adore this thread. Having examples of realistic expectations after all of this does so much to relieve any fears. I think the unknown is much more frightening than any reality, and your photos have proven that for me at least. I feel much more optimistic about the state of my body in the future. Thank you guys so much for being brave enough to share.

ChickieChicks
03-20-2013, 08:07 PM
Cherry- that is amazing! The two week post op looked good, but so much swelling. Look at you in the bikini!!

ReillyJ
03-20-2013, 10:19 PM
i think everyone looks great and i have to say a slender body with loose skin is far more attractive than an overweight one (sorry that's not meant to be offensive to anyone!)

BUT.. that being said, i really wish there wasn't such a thing. it is very hard to determine goal when one has a lot of saggy loose skin all over. i don't go by scale weight for goal (i lost basically 100lbs without a scale) and i just go by the way i look and my clothes fit and what size but it's so discouraging to see a normal size body with a saggy loose belly that just looks like a lot of flappy fat :\

i'll get around to posting my pics soon, sick here with a sinus infection.

shcirerf
03-20-2013, 11:28 PM
Cool thread!

One of the things I love about hanging out around here, is it's the real thing! No sugar coating! This is reality!

Anywho, I will be tossing some pics up sometime in the next few days. I am taking off tomorrow to go take care of my grand daughter, while her parents go have the new baby!:carrot:

But, I will get some pics up!:D

amandie
03-21-2013, 02:36 AM
Everyone looks SO good! I decided that I am going to post mine even though I am not at goal yet. It may help others by sharing as those who shared have helped me greatly. Thank you.

amandie
03-21-2013, 03:09 AM
How much have you lost? 65lbs
How old were you when you lost the weight? 26. 27 now with restart.
How long were you at your high weight? I always have been overweight as a child, gained over time though I finally "stopped" at 180-190 and maintained that until I got to 226lbs. 3-4 years of being 226.
Are you still losing weight? Yes, about 10lbs to go for now,.
How long did it take you to lose the weight? Less than a year to get to 170 then bounced between 170 to 180 for almost a year. Started up again 1/21/13 at 180.
Did you have weight loss surgery? No.
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks? No, I have never been pregnant.
Do you have weight gain stretch marks? Yes, starting right under the breasts all over the stomach, sides and all around the back, inner thighs, and on the back of the knees.
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining? Not yet. Though, I sort of maintained 170-180 for almost a year before my new restart. :D

In the beginning, I exercised with weights, resistance bands, balance balls and my elliptical trainer but I stopped that over a year ago due to an injury. I am well enough to start again on a consistent basis, I cannot wait!

As for my lower stomach, it is wrinkly and a bit droopy, it does not fold over or anything like that so no rash, etc.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f324/universaldorkette/IMAG2231.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f324/universaldorkette/IMAG2235.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f324/universaldorkette/IMAG1982.jpg

Updated new pics in swimwear at 157-159, my lowest weight so far. Still no working out yet!!!

ReillyJ
03-21-2013, 03:31 AM
amandie, i would love to have your middle abdomen! no fold over on the belly button like i do! i think you're gonna look FAB when you get to goal :)

dstalksalot
03-21-2013, 10:50 AM
I think this could be a good idea but a lot of work photo editing berry....one thing I think would help would be knowing a persons body shape. Apples carry weight differently than a pear.....although most of the time body shape is obvious.

ETA: wow pics already... This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.

elvislover324
03-21-2013, 10:53 AM
This thread is so helpful. I'm in the middle of my weightloss but seeing the progress everyone has made is amazing. Thank you for doing this, Melissa and thank you to all the contributors.

Amandie----you are looking good!!! Do you do arm exercises? I would give anything for my arms to look as buff as yours! You are going to be even more gorgeous at goal!

berryblondeboys
03-21-2013, 11:59 AM
Waiting to hear from more maintainers, but glad some are popping in to check out the thread.

Amandie - I think you are going to be lucky in the loose skin dept. Especially with the arms.

That's one of the reasons I wanted to do this thread - we are all so individual, that it is not a given how ANY of us will bounce back (or not bounce back).

Hoping more and more people will jump in here. It is super helpful. And I don't think it would discourage people even if it isn't "pretty". I think all of us would agree that have been through it, it's way better to have the loose skin than the fat for our health, how we feel and how we look.

amandie
03-21-2013, 03:50 PM
Thank you all!!! It was a bit nerve-wracking but I am glad I shared.

Elvislover- Thank you! I did them along with the rest of the body in the beginning with 3-5lb weights, resistance bands, weighted balance balls, body weight exercises, etc. in the beginning but stopped over a year ago. The only arm exercises I get is from cleaning and playing in a dart league 2 times a week, lol. I want and need to get back to my old routine very soon.

amandie
03-21-2013, 03:51 PM
... I think all of us would agree that have been through it, it's way better to have the loose skin than the fat for our health, how we feel and how we look.

I definitely agree!

ReillyJ
03-21-2013, 08:30 PM
Ok yikes, here we go. FEEL FREE to comment as you like (just don't be mean) because i'm not posting for compliments although any praise for accomplishments would be greatly appreciated :)

How much have you lost? 100 lbs
How old were you when you lost the weight? 49-50
How long were you at your high weight? probably at least 15 yrs
Are you still losing weight? possibly but not trying
How long did it take you to lose the weight? maybe 1.5 yrs or less
Did you have weight loss surgery?no
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks?never been pregnant
Do you have weight gain stretch marks?yes i think so but not hugely so
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining? was "at maintenance" at 172 lbs for 4 or so months then re


Recently lost 12 more

i'm almost 51. Around a size 12 but probably more like a size 10 now depending on what brand/style jeans. i try to exercise every day but i have CFS and it does make me sick to exercise although i do it anyway. i also do some weights and am trying to do more as best i can.
please forgive the "granny pants" as i'm sure some would call them, i'm older and have no idea what is "cool" now as far as undies, LOL.
As you can see there's a bit of saggy skin in the inner thighs and not much on the upper arms and i'm starting to get good tone in them and what i hate is i've lost my butt (hoping to gain it with squats and deadlifts) but a lot of that is due to age and inactivity for 15 yrs due to CFS. My main gripe is my tummy, it makes me feel almost like i'm not at goal sometimes. it is kind of "saggy" and obviously i didn't show the lower abdomen where it is most wrinkly but that part doesn't bother me as much because it's covered up by jeans or what-not, i hate the spare saggy skin around/above the belly button because it kind of just ruins the look of nice tight T's, etc. you can kind of see it in one of the pics (look kind of where i'm standing where the blue blanket is on the chair (my cat's cat cave, LOL)

i don't know if i could stand to lose MORE and some more of it would disappear? But the rest of me is already slim, i'm HOPING that maybe with more physical activity and TIME..the slack will tighten just a bit but anyway let me know your thoughts...

joefla70
03-21-2013, 10:35 PM
Ok yikes, here we go. FEEL FREE to comment as you like (just don't be mean) because i'm not posting for compliments although any praise for accomplishments would be greatly appreciated :)

How much have you lost? 100 lbs
How old were you when you lost the weight? 49-50
How long were you at your high weight? probably at least 15 yrs
Are you still losing weight? possibly but not trying
How long did it take you to lose the weight? maybe 1.5 yrs or less
Did you have weight loss surgery?no
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks?never been pregnant
Do you have weight gain stretch marks?yes i think so but not hugely so
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining? was "at maintenance" at 172 lbs for 4 or so months then recently lost 12 more

i'm almost 51. Around a size 12 but probably more like a size 10 now depending on what brand/style jeans. i try to exercise every day but i have CFS and it does make me sick to exercise although i do it anyway. i also do some weights and am trying to do more as best i can.
please forgive the "granny pants" as i'm sure some would call them, i'm older and have no idea what is "cool" now as far as undies, LOL.
As you can see there's a bit of saggy skin in the inner thighs and not much on the upper arms and i'm starting to get good tone in them and what i hate is i've lost my butt (hoping to gain it with squats and deadlifts) but a lot of that is due to age and inactivity for 15 yrs due to CFS. My main gripe is my tummy, it makes me feel almost like i'm not at goal sometimes. it is kind of "saggy" and obviously i didn't show the lower abdomen where it is most wrinkly but that part doesn't bother me as much because it's covered up by jeans or what-not, i hate the spare saggy skin around/above the belly button because it kind of just ruins the look of nice tight T's, etc. you can kind of see it in one of the pics (look kind of where i'm standing where the blue blanket is on the chair (my cat's cat cave, LOL)

i don't know if i could stand to lose MORE and some more of it would disappear? But the rest of me is already slim, i'm HOPING that maybe with more physical activity and TIME..the slack will tighten just a bit but anyway let me know your thoughts...

Susie, I think you look fantastic. I think most everybody, especially those of us who have lost as much weight as you, would be thrilled to have your results from weight loss. I can tell you right now that your pictures are going to be very encouraging for a lot of people.

P.S. If you hadn't posted your age, I would have guessed that you were in your 30s.

ReillyJ
03-21-2013, 10:55 PM
Susie, if I were wearing the same sort of bra and undies (and I were back to my 165ish weight) we would look like body doubles! How funny is that? And I think you look great! Which means, I must mean I don't think I look too shabby either (when I get back down to my goal weight).

Thank you so much for sharing!

I know you are wearing "granny" undies, but do you have an apron? or no? I kind of tucked my undies under/down to show the apron on the tummy. You can't see it if I wear things normally - only when naked and I wasn't going to shoot a naked shot!

Melissa no you don't look too shabby at all!! And thank you for the compliment. i haven't looked that good in years but if i really start looking at myself i will pick myself apart until i have no self esteem left so i'm best not staring at them, LOL

Yes, kind of an apron, not a full one and it did shrink the more i lost but it's kind of more of a saggy pouch instead of a full on apron i would think, it does get smaller. And i'm always wondering about losing more to see if the "gut" shrinks more although i'm thinking i will never have that dream abdomen and to just get over it :\

Thank you also to joefla 70 for your kind words :D

i hope more post, it's nice to see what "real" people look like

berryblondeboys
03-21-2013, 11:09 PM
Susie, if I were wearing the same sort of bra and undies (and I were back to my 165ish weight) we would look like body doubles! How funny is that? And I think you look great! Which means, I must mean I don't think I look too shabby either (when I get back down to my goal weight).

Thank you so much for sharing!

I know you are wearing "granny" undies, but do you have an apron? or no? I kind of tucked my undies under/down to show the apron on the tummy. You can't see it if I wear things normally - only when naked and I wasn't going to shoot a naked shot!

mariposssa
03-21-2013, 11:30 PM
Hey Susie! :) I think you look great and since I have similar starting stats ( within an inch and about a 5lb difference) and similar goals that is really encouraging. Would you say you are an apple type? I think your stomach is pretty amazing especially for 100lbs down. I am not even halfway there. Your pics give me hope.

Berryblonde great thread!!

amandie
03-21-2013, 11:35 PM
Susie- I think you look absolutely great! I totally second everything Joe said in his post especially the 30s part! PS, I do not consider these to be granny undies at all. To me, granny undies are the kind that go way over your bellybutton, covering most/half of your abdomen. :)

Melissa- I pulled the underwear down a bit in the front in the pics to show more of my lower stomach because you can't see it if I wear them normally too.

charliee
03-23-2013, 12:50 PM
This thread is great. Thank you so much Melissa for doing this.

I've been browsing the goal photo gallery on this forum and looking at the before and after fat loss tumblr and now this thread. It is amazing to see both the amazing progress we are able to make when we put our minds to it and the varying types of bodies we have.

We may not be perfect, but we are all amazing!

Monkeysocks
03-23-2013, 03:43 PM
Wow, I thought this thread might be discouraging, but it has actually been very motivational! Several brave posters have bodies I would die for. And as Valerie Bertinelli said in an interview about weight loss "that's what spanx are for". I'm more interested in looking good in clothes than bikinis, and some of you guys look fabulous!

rglover641
03-29-2013, 01:59 AM
This thread was a great idea and is very helpful :)

Missy Krissy
03-31-2013, 09:40 PM
I'm not done losing yet, but I was inspired by those who shared already so I thought I'd share my progress too!

Lost: 75 pounds from pregnancy weight, 44 from post pregnancy weight
Age at weight loss: 26
Number of years at high weight: ~2-3 years
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? YES!!!
Fat gain stretch marks? Yes
Still losing weight: Yes, about 16-20 pounds more to go
How long did it take you to lose the weight: At the end of my pregnancy in June I topped out at 212 pounds, My weight was in the 180's in September when I decided that I needed to start losing. In the past 6 months I've lost ~44 pounds.

Ok, here goes!

Frontal Body:
http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/KrissyMissyMe/media/FullBody_zps0a0e136e.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/FullBody_zps2ba9fd85.jpg

Side Body:
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/Side_zps0402bbb8.jpg

Belly Close up:
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/Tummy_zps09fa3575.jpg

Here you can see how saggy the belly is. First the belly is at rest, then I pull up the lose skin:

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/BellyHand_zps498603b4.jpg
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/BellyLift_zps185e8d4a.jpg

So there you have it. Thanks BerryBlonde for starting this thread. I hadn't been very pleased with my post-baby, mid-weight-loss body, but while I was taking the pictures I started looking at my body differently. Like really looking at it. And you know what? As of this moment, I'm totally fine with my body. I actually like it's shape, and the belly skin doesn't really bother me anymore. I also noticed that the stretch marks are pretty faded too. After I'm done having my babies and hit long term maintenance I might think about tucking up that lose skin, but for now It's fine by me :)

Missy Krissy
03-31-2013, 09:41 PM
Hmm... Anyone know why my pics didn't show?

ETA - Sorry, I figured it out!

mandypandy2246
04-03-2013, 02:42 AM
These pictures give me so much hope! Thank you everyone for sharing!!!

shcirerf
04-04-2013, 12:39 AM
Finally getting around to putting up some pics and stats.

Lost for the last time at 51-52. Now 53 and maintaining.

Highest ever 195.
5'5"
140 in pics
One pregnancy twins, 6#+ each.
Maintaining 18 mos now, pics about 4 months old.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k631/shcirerfj/2012-10-01203104.jpg

Missy Krissy
04-04-2013, 12:48 AM
Nice arms shcirerf!

shcirerf
04-04-2013, 09:05 AM
Nice arms shcirerf!

Thanks! Strength training!:carrot:

bargoo
04-04-2013, 12:31 PM
I'm not done losing yet, but I was inspired by those who shared already so I thought I'd share my progress too!

Lost: 75 pounds from pregnancy weight, 44 from post pregnancy weight
Age at weight loss: 26
Number of years at high weight: ~2-3 years
Weight loss surgery? No
Pregnancy stretch marks? YES!!!
Fat gain stretch marks? Yes
Still losing weight: Yes, about 16-20 pounds more to go
How long did it take you to lose the weight: At the end of my pregnancy in June I topped out at 212 pounds, My weight was in the 180's in September when I decided that I needed to start losing. In the past 6 months I've lost ~44 pounds.

Ok, here goes!

Frontal Body:
http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/KrissyMissyMe/media/FullBody_zps0a0e136e.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/FullBody_zps2ba9fd85.jpg

Side Body:
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/Side_zps0402bbb8.jpg

Belly Close up:
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/Tummy_zps09fa3575.jpg

Here you can see how saggy the belly is. First the belly is at rest, then I pull up the lose skin:

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/BellyHand_zps498603b4.jpg
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/KrissyMissyMe/BellyLift_zps185e8d4a.jpg

So there you have it. Thanks BerryBlonde for starting this thread. I hadn't been very pleased with my post-baby, mid-weight-loss body, but while I was taking the pictures I started looking at my body differently. Like really looking at it. And you know what? As of this moment, I'm totally fine with my body. I actually like it's shape, and the belly skin doesn't really bother me anymore. I also noticed that the stretch marks are pretty faded too. After I'm done having my babies and hit long term maintenance I might think about tucking up that lose skin, but for now It's fine by me :)

Yep, that is loose skin,

shcirerf
04-06-2013, 12:09 AM
Good thread.

I finally realized a few years ago, the body I have is what I have. Saggy girls, stretch marks and so on. It might not be that pretty to look at, but, my body is an amazing thing!

My body made 2 babies in one pregnancy, that were born, 6 pounds, 1 and 3/4 ounces, 19 and 1/2 inches long and baby brother, 6 pounds and 1 and 1/4 ounces and 19 and 1/4 inches long, natural delivery!:carrot:

Went home 3 days later! That was 1980!

As women, our bodies are amazing! Men can not do what we do!

So we have a few stretch marks, and some saggy skin and girls that beat us to our cereal bowl in the morning! We have amazing bodies!

I love mine! The better I treat it the better it is!:D

amandie
06-11-2013, 03:26 AM
Bump. Lovin' this thread. Thanks for sharing, MissyKrissy and Shcierf!! I cannot wait to update with my goal pics by Oct/November.

ETA- damn, I just saw this post. Unfortunately, I've yet to make it to goal.

ValRock
06-11-2013, 05:22 AM
I think it's a great idea, too! I'd be happy to help! I wish I had pictures of myself when I first lost weight. My skin situation has improved so much. I think it'd be helpful for people to see how much time helps.

pixie3208
06-11-2013, 05:32 AM
Great thread

karmine
07-05-2013, 01:31 AM
Amazing thread; loving it!

amandie
02-22-2014, 12:25 PM
Bump!

vealcalf2000
02-23-2014, 02:35 PM
Wonderful thread! I have bat wings and have always been embarrassed by them. Recently though since I started some strength training I'm noticing an improvement in how they look. Sure there is still loose skin and stretch marks, but the muscle tone developing under is helping them to look much better. I don't think I have a before picture as I'd never wear short sleeves in public. I'll see if I can take a picture of them now though.

Stepha0000
02-23-2014, 06:42 PM
Thanks for sharing....I'm worried about loose skin as well.

Underwater
02-23-2014, 07:33 PM
How much have you lost? 110 lbs
How old were you when you lost the weight? 27-29 years old
How long were you at your high weight? 5+ years over 250
Are you still losing weight? No
How long did it take you to lose the weight? 18 months
Did you have weight loss surgery? No
Do you have pregnancy stretch marks? No - I have never been pregnant
Do you have weight gain stretch marks? Yes, many on my stomach
If you are in maintenance, how long have you been maintaining? I have been maintaining 6 months.

I have since gotten a tummy tuck to take care of the skin on my stomach, but here is what I looked like before. The bikini top is a size 36 DDD from Sunsets (although my bra size is 34 DDD) and the bottoms are a medium from Target.

http://i.imgur.com/4ti6Urtl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KcvUjQEl.jpg

vealcalf2000
02-23-2014, 08:00 PM
Gulp here goes. I'm not crazy at all about my arms or wings but even I admit that they look better. Last year I wouldn't of wore a tank top. This year? Maybe. Oh and please pardon the shadow under my arm! I tried and tried to get better lighting but because of the crease in my arm I couldn't get the shadow out. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/vealcalf2000/02231418091_zpsa631e94c.jpg (http://s218.photobucket.com/user/vealcalf2000/media/02231418091_zpsa631e94c.jpg.html)

Koshka
02-24-2014, 12:50 AM
This is a great thread. And, thanks to all of you who responded and/or posted pics. It is really helpful.

donijo23
02-24-2014, 02:46 AM
Underwater

You look great! I love the pics. My favorite is the one of you in the purple dress! Great job!
:df:

amandie
02-24-2014, 10:44 AM
Thanks so much for sharing, y'all!!!

Underwater- I'd kill for your legs!!

Radiojane
03-27-2014, 01:34 PM
Check out this 3fc's pre-op and post-op photos. I'm sure she will pipe up if you have questions for her.

These photos are pre-surgery:

She had lost 210 pounds
She had reached maintenance (minus the weight of the loose skin)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/IMG_3160_zps9a5cd4ec.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_31611_zps9467884a.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_3163_zpsdd4fa875.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_3166_zps956fa8f6.jpg

Post surgery (and these are when she was still healing - photos taken 2 weeks post-op). She looks FABULOUS!!!! This was about a year ago I believe.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1838_zps7e9161d6.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1839_zps6dd1bb92.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1840_zps876aedb6.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/melissa_sinclair2003/loose%20skin/IMG_1845_zpsdbd81598.jpg


Cannot tell you how much hope this gives me. It's actually very rare to come across many examples of such a major weight loss in a female. I have my tummy tuck savings account started.

angelicus
03-27-2014, 08:43 PM
Thanks so much to everyone who posted these pictures. It really is so helpful. Also, a massive round of applause for loosing so much :D