Ideal Protein Diet - Ok, so how bad did you REALLY feel?




HillaryJH
02-25-2013, 06:13 PM
So I just found out that I will be weighing in this Wednesday evening which means that I will start IP on Thursday. From countless others stories, I can expect the first three-four days to be a beast.

I am really nervous because I have work (at a High School) from 6:30am-2:30pm on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday I have graduate school from 4-6 without any opportunity to go home, and on Friday I have graduate school from 4-8, also without any opportunity to go home. Saturday is what I am most worried about: I have a graduate class from 7am-5pm! Yikes!

Since Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will be blech days, I am freaking out because of my packed schedule! I think that I am the most nervous about my hypoglycemia. I have dropped down into such low blood sugar before that I have passed out and I am afraid for that to happen again! I don't want to try the Alternative Protocol for at least a month to see if IP straightens out my pancreas.

I understand that I can have a fourth packet the first week, which I am sure I will do, but can I have more vegetables (not lettuce) in addition to my four cups?

Also, any words of wisdom? Was there anything that especially comforted you during your beast phase?


leannekarella
02-25-2013, 06:23 PM
So I just found out that I will be weighing in this Wednesday evening which means that I will start IP on Thursday. From countless others stories, I can expect the first three-four days to be a beast.

I am really nervous because I have work (at a High School) from 6:30am-2:30pm on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday I have graduate school from 4-6 without any opportunity to go home, and on Friday I have graduate school from 4-8, also without any opportunity to go home. Saturday is what I am most worried about: I have a graduate class from 7am-5pm! Yikes!

Since Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will be blech days, I am freaking out because of my packed schedule! I think that I am the most nervous about my hypoglycemia. I have dropped down into such low blood sugar before that I have passed out and I am afraid for that to happen again! I don't want to try the Alternative Protocol for at least a month to see if IP straightens out my pancreas.

I understand that I can have a fourth packet the first week, which I am sure I will do, but can I have more vegetables (not lettuce) in addition to my four cups?

Also, any words of wisdom? Was there anything that especially comforted you during your beast phase?

Is there any way you could actually start on Friday instead of Thursday?

The first day I was just hungry. It was second and third day that I was hungry, grouchy as all get out, and had a pretty severe headache. By day 4 I was starting to feel a little more normal.

If you have hypoglycemia, you must keep a high carb restricted item with you at all times. I am diabetic, and experienced a couple low blood sugars the first 2 weeks. Dizzy, slurring, etc... Luckily my daughter was there and knew what to do. I do not even eat the restricted items, but I keep 2 bars in my purse at all times "just in case" I fall low and don't have access to anything else.

Welcome to IP, and it does get easier after the first week. I really would talk to your coach about starting on Friday, just to get the worst to hit you over the weekend.

crazynette826
02-25-2013, 06:26 PM
So the worst part for me was a really bad headache on day 2 and 3. Aleve and tylenol helped a ton. I also made sure to get extra salt, and lot's of water. I think it was mostly related to giving up the soda my body was so used to having throughout the day. Day 4 the headache was gone, and I felt pretty decent. I didn't have any other symptoms. Some people say they feel like they have the flu, but it's just a small percent of people. I didn't feel that bad. I expected it to be way worse than it was. To tell you the truth, the absolute worst part was all the bathroom trips, while my body got used to the extra water. So annoying!!


HillaryJH
02-25-2013, 06:34 PM
Is there any way you could actually start on Friday instead of Thursday?

Do you thing it would be all right to start Friday even though my weigh in will always be Wednesday?

Ojenchilada
02-25-2013, 06:42 PM
I am so thankful that I started on a Friday. Saturday, I was supposed to be in training all day, but I left at noon because I couldn't take the pounding headache and nausea in public. I spent all day in bed. Sunday, I had a residual but manageable headache. Monday, I was 100%.

I wouldn't worry about what day you weigh in. Just expect that first loss to be a little lower than it would have otherwise been, but you'll have a full week the second week.

HillaryJH
02-25-2013, 06:44 PM
I wouldn't worry about what day you weigh in. Just expect that first loss to be a little lower than it would have otherwise been, but you'll have a full week the second week.

Ok, thank you for sharing your experience.

Would anyone be able to tell me whether or not it is acceptable to eat extra veggies (not lettuce) if I feel super hungry?

IP43
02-25-2013, 06:58 PM
I know you're excited to get started BUT you want to be successful so don't set yourself up for stress and failure. There is no reason why you can't cut back on bread etc. before starting and start on a day that works for you. I'm getting stressed just reading your schedule LOL. Lisa will tell you she lurked here for 8 months before starting. This gave her lots of time to read, think about what she needed to do etc. Do your weigh in Wednesday and then start taking your supplements, trying to get your water all in, and cut back on some carbs so you start to get into the zone. Have a chicken breast on your salad or whatever. You'll be in good shape to start full tilt on Fri or Sat and so what if you're not doing a first full week. You're on this journey for a few months. It's "small potatoes" (or even small cauliflower) in your IP journey.
Good luck next week -- sounds busy! We're here when you have time to check in.
BTW I also gave up caffeine coffee those first 3 days. Figured if I felt like crap, it may as well be a one time deal. Now I can drink all the decaf I like without having to drink down extra water. And speakin' of which, my French Vanilla Decaf is calling my name right now....mmmm....

As for extra veggies, SOME coaches say celery, cukes, and dill pickles are free. Others say no to that. But if you need extra something, stick to ones like that rather than having an extra restricted or something

ragdoll74
02-25-2013, 07:13 PM
I agree with IP43. You might want to consider delaying the start, and cutting down on carbs for a week first. It helps to reduce the withdrawal symptoms when you do start.

I spent most of day's 2-4 sleeping, because I was exhausted, had a head-ache, nauseous, light headed at times and feverish. I think my symptoms were really bad because I used to eat a ton of carbs, especially the 10 days before starting IP because I was on vacation.

IP43
02-25-2013, 07:20 PM
I agree with IP43. You might want to consider delaying the start, and cutting down on carbs for a week first. It helps to reduce the withdrawal symptoms when you do start.

I spent most of day's 2-4 sleeping, because I was exhausted, had a head-ache, nauseous, light headed at times and feverish. I think my symptoms were really bad because I used to eat a ton of carbs, especially the 10 days before starting IP because I was on vacation.

LOL -- you agree with me a lot Ragdoll! That's why I like you so much :hug: (hee hee) Listen to Ragdoll -- not because she agrees with me, but look at her FANTASTIC numbers! She knows what she's talking about (says IP43 who is a little :p with envy - in a loving way)

leannekarella
02-25-2013, 07:30 PM
Do you thing it would be all right to start Friday even though my weigh in will always be Wednesday?

My first weigh in was a Monday and I didn't start till Wed. Your first weigh in might not be all you're hoping for, because you lost a couple of days, but you'll all be on track by the following week.

lisa32989
02-25-2013, 07:38 PM
Do you thing it would be all right to start Friday even though my weigh in will always be Wednesday?
I recommend it!

Ok, thank you for sharing your experience.

Would anyone be able to tell me whether or not it is acceptable to eat extra veggies (not lettuce) if I feel super hungry?
I have to ask why you keep saying "not lettuce"
Lettuce is unlimited! It will be your friend! Besides, you can tell if it is truly hunger if lettuce helps. If it is just your head wanting to eat, lettuce won't usually satisfy.
Romaine leaves will make you feel like you're eating right off a tree ;)
Lets look at ways to stay ON plan, rather than how to change the plan.

You can also have 0/0/0 items (fat/carbs/sugar). 2 egg whites/ day fit this description. Some scrambled egg whites with some veggies is a great snack. Cooked veggies fill me up better than raw.

My coach allowed me 3-5 packets my first week. I think I had an extra on 2 separate days. I suggest planning ahead without causing yourself a bunch of stress.

bubbleblower
02-25-2013, 07:42 PM
I was grumpy and had a headache on days 3 and 4 but I've certainly worked through a lot worse - and worked through that as well. I just would say I wasn't at my best! :lol:

ETA: I had forgotten about this until Lisa mentioned about the packets ... I was using 4 per day at the very beginning and I think that helped.

HillaryJH
02-25-2013, 07:56 PM
I have to ask why you keep saying "not lettuce"


I keep saying "not lettuce" because I know it is unlimited and I wanted to specific yes or no answer as to whether or not I could eat regular veggies.

I do believe that I will hold off until Friday. This makes me feel MUCH better. I know I will be a beast on Saturday during my 7-5 class, but that is life!

Thank you ladies!

ragdoll74
02-25-2013, 08:01 PM
LOL -- you agree with me a lot Ragdoll! That's why I like you so much :hug: (hee hee) Listen to Ragdoll -- not because she agrees with me, but look at her FANTASTIC numbers! She knows what she's talking about (says IP43 who is a little :p with envy - in a loving way)

I just want to make sure you don't forget about me when it comes time to send out the invites for the IP Cruise.:hug:

evepet
02-25-2013, 08:06 PM
Definitely - in fact I'd postpone it longer still and wait to start on Sunday. If I'm understanding your schedule right, it sounds like your heaviest 3 day stretch of the week is Thurs/Fri/Saturday. And those are the very three days when you may well feel the worst as your body adapts to the lower level of carbs and works towards getting into ketosis. I can't help but think that you're potentially making things harder on yourself than they need to be if you start during that time. Especially since you have a history of hypoglycemia. Why you don't wait, get that busy 3-day stretch behind you, and start on Sunday? As others have said you can cut back on carbs somewhat on Thurs/Fri/Saturday in preparation for jumping 100% into the diet on Sunday. Then you'll have Sunday/Mon/Tues/Wedn to get into ketosis (which the majority of people do within that number of days) before your next busy 3-day stretch rolls around again. You'll have many WIs coming up in the months ahead... don't worry about whether your first WI covers a period of 7 - or 10 - days. It will all even out. Start on the day of the week that YOU prefer and that will make the transition the easiest and least stressful for you.

scorbett1103
02-25-2013, 08:56 PM
[I keep saying "not lettuce" because I know it is unlimited and I wanted to specific yes or no answer as to whether or not I could eat regular veggies.


Short version - if you want to be 100% on plan, no you can't have anything but lettuce outside of your 4 measured cups per day.

HOWEVER....remember there are other tools in your arsenal to combat hunger in the beginning:

-2 egg whites per day - in that amount they meet the 0/0/0 rule at the bottom of your sheet. Maybe make up a little omelet ahead of time and keep it handy in case you need it

-also, one Hard boiled egg can be used to combat difficult hunger. Also very easy to carry with you if you need it.

-hot drinks can be more filling than cold drinks - if you plan ahead to bring some herbal tea bags you should be able to track down some hot water wherever you are.

The biggest challenge in Phase 1 is PLANNING. I actually planned my entire week at once for the first few months. Sat down with my calendar, my packets and a bunch of ziploc bags. Set up every day of my packets in a separate bag so I could just grab & go. Planned every meal so I never felt "stuck" even on my busiest days. It made ALL the difference!

Good luck on your first week! If you can handle a bunch of high schoolers, this should be a cake walk :)

Trinkets75
02-26-2013, 12:03 AM
I agree with everybody's comments. I just started on Saturday, and today has hit me hard! Nauseated, headache, and absolutely no energy. I purposely started on Saturday, so that I would hopefully be feeling better by the time I had to go back to work on Wednesday. I'm a nurse and work 12 hr shifts.

I'm confused about the lettuce, my coach said its only unlimited during meals, and that I can only eat veggies with meals, nothing in between to help you out, except water, or an extra packet if needed. This seemed crazy to me! At least the lettuce part. Any comments?

ladylunk
02-26-2013, 12:12 AM
Trinket - you are right sounds crazy. You may want to post this on tomorrow's daily thread as well. Youwill get lots of answers there. Lettuce should be fine whenever you need it. It is a freebie and you can use that. Many people spread out veggies and even protein to make it through the day. Sounds like your coach is making it harder than it needs to be.

Trinkets75
02-26-2013, 12:30 AM
Ladylunk, thanks for the advice. I won't stress so much no about the fact that I had lettuce and jicama for snacks:) I haven't actually met her, I just called to set up my weigh in, and she was the one who answered the phone. I was having a rough day, so was asking some clarifying questions.

scorbett1103
02-26-2013, 01:00 AM
I agree with everybody's comments. I just started on Saturday, and today has hit me hard! Nauseated, headache, and absolutely no energy. I purposely started on Saturday, so that I would hopefully be feeling better by the time I had to go back to work on Wednesday. I'm a nurse and work 12 hr shifts.

I'm confused about the lettuce, my coach said its only unlimited during meals, and that I can only eat veggies with meals, nothing in between to help you out, except water, or an extra packet if needed. This seemed crazy to me! At least the lettuce part. Any comments?

According to the sheet - lettuce is unlimited. Meaning, you can have as much of it as you want, whenever you want. Lettuce (Romaine, iceberg, butter lettuces) are pretty much just fiber and water and don't add much nutritionally to your diet.

Also, the eating plan on the Phase 1 sheet is a suggestion - helpful in scheduling things out so that you get your food in over the course of the day. But you can break things up however works best for you - as long as you get ALL your food in (3 packets, 8oz protein, 4 cups veggies) every day.

The program is restrictive enough on its own, coaches don't need to make it harder than it is!!!

lovetorun3
02-26-2013, 05:06 AM
So I just found out that I will be weighing in this Wednesday evening which means that I will start IP on Thursday. From countless others stories, I can expect the first three-four days to be a beast.

I am really nervous because I have work (at a High School) from 6:30am-2:30pm on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday I have graduate school from 4-6 without any opportunity to go home, and on Friday I have graduate school from 4-8, also without any opportunity to go home. Saturday is what I am most worried about: I have a graduate class from 7am-5pm! Yikes!

Since Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will be blech days, I am freaking out because of my packed schedule! I think that I am the most nervous about my hypoglycemia. I have dropped down into such low blood sugar before that I have passed out and I am afraid for that to happen again! I don't want to try the Alternative Protocol for at least a month to see if IP straightens out my pancreas.

I understand that I can have a fourth packet the first week, which I am sure I will do, but can I have more vegetables (not lettuce) in addition to my four cups?

Also, any words of wisdom? Was there anything that especially comforted you during your beast phase?

If you stick to this plan, at least you'll be busy and won't have a lot of time to think about how awful you feel ;) LOL! Just kidding!
Bring extra packets, my coach said that you can have up to 5 packets a day during the first week. Don't forget to bring a big salad (with extra free lettuce) & your sea salt. I have never asked anyone, but my guess would be that you shouldn't have other extra veggies because of the carbs ~ might affect your ketosis???
I was tired during my first 3 days but was able to work no problem. My hubby is in his first week & the only problem he has had was a couple of headaches which were relieved with sea salt.
Good luck ~ keep us posted :D

Nolawhodatchick
02-26-2013, 08:19 AM
You have gotten lots of good advice here. I think it would be best to be able to sleep as much as you need during the first 3 days. I'm hypoglycemic too and its hereditary/genetic, didn't straighten out with IP as it does for some (many) folks. If you feel you must start anyway, here are some of my suggestions...eat all 5 packets to get through the first 3 days if you need. I found as a hypoglycemic, dividing my packets and nibbling on them throughout the day worked better than eating a whole packet at a time. I also find that eating more of my daily food allowance in the first half of the day helped me get through the last half better. Either eat your egg whites in the morning or make them as hard boiled and take them with you, you can have 2 for "free" on IP. I found the "real" protein from food helped my sugar/energy stay up better than packet protein. Don't underestimate lettuce, it IS food and helps, some days I ate 2 bags of it. Eat a restricted or higher carb packets. The one thing I learned from IP is my body prefers higher carbs, I lose better when eating a restricted packet each day and higher carb veggies like rutabaga Bring chewing gum, it helped me with the hungries. Don't forget your full amount of olive oil. Don't forget your sea salt, it helps with the headaches. Bring whatever OTC medicine you would normally take for headaches and take it if you still have a bad heachache after the salt. It helped me get through headache days. Eventually I did switch to the Alternative protocol, it felt much better for my body, but it's an individual journey so you might do better on the regular IP protocol. I am glad I started on it because I do feel it reset my metabolism (pancreas reset?) which is what I needed the most. Best of luck!

Desafinado
02-26-2013, 10:42 AM
I started on a Thursday and it wasn't that bad for me. The worst day was actually Sunday, and I was home then and just pushed through.

jeffiner
02-26-2013, 10:59 AM
Day two was worse for me..I think if I were in your shoes I would start on Sat. You'll be so busy that the day will fly..then sunday you can rest and deal with the headache..Mon might be tough but by Tuesday you'll be great!

mightbe
02-26-2013, 03:21 PM
The first week you can use an extra pack if needed. I would use an oatmeal pack and make some mini muffins to take with you to snack on if you need something in between meals, they are very filling and you get quite a few ;)

Msbehaving
02-26-2013, 03:36 PM
I was fine for a week, other than a bit hungry, then had 2 days of extreme nausea - but I might have come down with something those days. I was tired,so going to be early helped avoid nighttime eating and gave me more rest.

breezie68
02-26-2013, 04:53 PM
I struggled through the first week. I got headaches, and got dizzy if I stood up too fast (I still do). After the first few days- It's ALL mental for me. I would crave things so much... but I had to tell myself that it's really my mind that wants it- not my body needing it.

Trinkets75
02-26-2013, 04:58 PM
According to the sheet - lettuce is unlimited. Meaning, you can have as much of it as you want, whenever you want. Lettuce (Romaine, iceberg, butter lettuces) are pretty much just fiber and water and don't add much nutritionally to your diet.

Also, the eating plan on the Phase 1 sheet is a suggestion - helpful in scheduling things out so that you get your food in over the course of the day. But you can break things up however works best for you - as long as you get ALL your food in (3 packets, 8oz protein, 4 cups veggies) every day.

The program is restrictive enough on its own, coaches don't need to make it harder than it is!!!

Thanks for the info! It makes sense to me that lettuce should be whenever you need it, but they said the reason was to keep you from grazing through out the day. Whatever, if I need to graze to stay on plan then I will!