Ideal Protein Diet - Just told someone I started IP....




ktgal
02-20-2013, 10:39 PM
Hey All!!

I'm new to IP and the forum! I just started on Sunday and so far so good! (Although I practically ran out of the grocery store today when I caught a whiff of whatever the bakery was cooking....just too much temptation!!)

Anyway I casually mentioned starting IP to someone who is also trying (though unsuccessfully) to lose weight and she immediately starting telling me all the reasons why it was a terrible idea and how all I need to do is eat healthy and in moderation. :( I was a little annoyed..... She was telling me all the things shes does and how that was better. She was also suggesting things that don't work for me....shes a stay at home mom and has a family to feed as well as herself......while I on the other hand work a lot and travel for work often and so does my husband (who I see for 3-4 days every 2 weeks) so I basically have to take care of my self and don't have a whole lot of time to do it)...... Anyway I thought it was a little odd since it was a support group and she wasn't being all that supportive!! (I am my no means saying her ideas wouldn't work but I spent the last 10 years doing that with little movement on the scale) With some of my issues (which I'll mention below) I feel like I need to take action and quick!

I was just wondering if anyone else has had someone berate you when they find out you are on IP.

Finally (sorry this is getting a little long!) just thought I would share a little info about myself since I am new!! I have been overweight my entire life. I also have hypothyroidism and PCOS which are the bane of my existence since my husband and I have been trying to start a family with no success for the last 3 years (with IVF looming on the horizon I NEED to lose a minimum of 45lbs. or they won't do IVF!). Although I have not gained any weight for the last 5 years I also have not lost any. In January my doctors office told me about IP and after a month of research decided this was my opportunity to turn my life around! I have never felt this good starting a "diet" and I am certain with every week I am on IP there will be a little less of me!

Thanks for reading and good luck everyone with your own journey!!


JenRem
02-20-2013, 10:55 PM
I tend to not share with many people that I'm on IP. Not because I'm embarrassed or anything like that. In fact I usually don't even tell people that I'm trying to lose weight. When/if I receive compliments on weight loss, I like to know they are unsolicited or that a friend doesn't feel obligated to comment. If people notice (my weight loss) and ask me what I'm doing, I'm vague and just say that I'm eating low carb, low fat, healthy protein meals. If I get confronted by someone who I really, really sincerely think wants to know how I'm losing the weight, I'll share info about IP. I just don't share with anyone who asks, since most people are just making conversation or being nosey! Hope this helps.

BTW - Welcome! I'm pretty sure there have been people here on this site that have had more success with fertility issues since being on/doing the IP program. Good Luck!

There will definately be less of you each week, while you're on IP. It really is a great program and the IPeeps on this site are so wonderful and supportive. Jen

lisa32989
02-20-2013, 10:57 PM
So, in December, when I showed up at my doctor's office 45 lbs lighter than he'd seen me in June, all he could say to me was: You didn't need to buy packets to do this. You could have done it with real food.

ahem. Really?

I looked straight at him and said back "Yep, that was working great for me, wasn't it? I got to 260"

He shut up after that. I preferred him speechless than jerky.

Now I've lost 65 and he can Kiss my ever-shrinking .... :)

I developed hypothyroid while ON IP. I have since cut out soy and gluten because they are notoriously hard on thyroid.

I didn't tell people about IP when I started. I just didn't trust myself to stick to it. Now when people tell me how great I look and say "Keep it up," I almost feel like they really don't know what to say so they say that. People who haven't lost a significant amount of weight have NO IDEA the amount of dedication that it takes. I certainly don't need advice from anyone...well meaning or not. If I want advice, I ask for it here. From the people who understand.

Welcome & glad you joined us!


SFNinerGirl
02-20-2013, 10:57 PM
Hey there,

Welcome to the forum. I hope you get the support you need here.

I feel like talking to people about dieting is almost like talking to someone about religion or politics. Every has their own theory on life and the way it should be lived, and the best thing to do is just wish them the best of luck and let them know this is the BEST decision for you right now, which is clearly all that matters.

As a previous medical student, I can tell you that IP approach is not only safe, but ketogenic protocol has been around since the 1800s. It was first discovered and utilized in an attempt to cure Crohn's disease in children and found it was not only effective in adults, but also alleviated symptoms in patients who siffered from Celiac's and Asperger's syndromes.

Ketogenic was later found to be successful for bariatric surgery patients who needed to lose at least 10% of their body weight before surgery could be performed and quickly. From there, different versions have come out since the 70s and 80s, like Atkins.

The point being is that IP is a fool proof approach to not only put you into a state of ketosis, but keep you there until you hit your goal weight. Because it is not only safe but effective, many doctors use this program because it's based on science, not a fad or trend.

That being said, it's not for everyone, there needs to be a baseline of health established which is why you work with a coach. But, those who stick to it will see results based on the law of ketosis.

Let your results do the talking for you. For now, perhaps just let people know you're doing your own thing with a health coach and are happy with where you're at. There's no such thing as a one size fits all approach so take that person's opinion with a grain of salt and focus on your success with IP. :)

SFNinerGirl
02-20-2013, 10:59 PM
So, in December, when I showed up at my doctor's office 45 lbs lighter than he'd seen me in June, all he could say to me was: You didn't need to buy packets to do this. You could have done it with real food.

ahem. Really?

I looked straight at him and said back "Yep, that was working great for me, wasn't it? I got to 260"

He shut up after that. I preferred him speechless than jerky.

Now I've lost 65 and he can Kiss my ever-shrinking .... :)

I developed hypothyroid while ON IP. I have since cut out soy and gluten because they are notoriously hard on thyroid.

Welcome & glad you joined us!

LOL awesome comeback. Putting that into the quick wit log...

Calisto
02-20-2013, 11:00 PM
I have had good comments about it, not one has said it didn't sound healthy... oh wait people were concerned when I told them but it's monitored at a doctor's office it shut them up!

lol, now I feel like I preach about it all the time, mostly because I get such great comments.

Tziri
02-20-2013, 11:07 PM
Hey,
Just wanted to let you know I also have hypothyroidism and started this diet when my thyroid levels were at a 9 (supposed to be around 0.5-1.5 according to my dr). I still lost a lot of weight my first few weeks! I would always stall on "healthy eating diets" because of my crazy thyroid! Kind of off-topic, but I was so excited to actually lose weight at the beginning even though my thyroid was off.

I've only told family and one friend (we've been friends for 20 years) about being on IP. Also not because I'm embarrassed, but because I feel like my weight-loss is pretty personal and I hate all the nosy questions and concerns that come along with it. However, if someone who is also trying to lose weight asks about my weight-loss then I tell them. I'll probably be a little more open about it once I'm at my goal.

Oh yeah and :welcome2:

scorbett1103
02-20-2013, 11:11 PM
The truth is, people fear what they don't understand. And IP is different from a lot of conventional diets out there - so folks don't *get* why the science behind IP works and just compare it to what they do know. If I hadn't done a lot of reading into ketogenic diets and how IP is structured, I may never have tried it for the same reasons. And yes, other methods of dieting definitely WORK (any diet that creates a calorie deficit is going to make you lose weight) - but not EVERY program is best for EVERY person.

At the end of the day, the only person whose opinion of the program matters is YOU. You are the one who has to do it. When I ran into people who commented that I should be doing things differently, my response was "I really appreciate your concern - but I have actually researched this and feel very comfortable with the plan. If you want more information about how it works I'll be happy to tell you more about it".

Or you can give Lisa's response :) I like hers too :)

SFNinerGirl
02-20-2013, 11:12 PM
Hey,
Just wanted to let you know I also have hypothyroidism and started this diet when my thyroid levels were at a 9 (supposed to be around 0.5-1.5 according to my dr). I still lost a lot of weight my first few weeks! I would always stall on "healthy eating diets" because of my crazy thyroid! Kind of off-topic, but I was so excited to actually lose weight at the beginning even though my thyroid was off.

I've only told family and one friend (we've been friends for 20 years) about being on IP. Also not because I'm embarrassed, but because I feel like my weight-loss is pretty personal and I hate all the nosy questions and concerns that come along with it. However, if someone who is also trying to lose weight asks about my weight-loss then I tell them. I'll probably be a little more open about it once I'm at my goal.

Oh yeah and :welcome2:

Wow, great progress so far. I'm interested in hearing about your journey so far and how you've created so much success from week to week.

Momto2cs
02-20-2013, 11:14 PM
You will get every conceivable response.
I encourage people who are interested. I point out to the naysayers that I lost the weight and have kept it off for 2 years.

In general I agree that people lose weight in many way. But my personal experience was that Many many hours of exercise and counting points got me nowhere. With ip I found success.

NinjaNurse
02-20-2013, 11:19 PM
Most people I have told have been positive. My doctor hugged me and the nutritionist I was working with when I started to do pre-op for GB was happy for me as well.

I told someone today, besides the WI, I have been going round and round with a crazy cat lady about adopting a cat, and this RN knew about the cat issues. (Long story) Right away this young thin person said it was a bunch of crap. I told her I lost 48lbs so far and she replied, "Well I guess it isn't a bunch of crap. WOW."

Actually, it truly isn't a bunch of crap these days.;)

If you are happy and it's working for you, forget everyone else.

Tziri
02-20-2013, 11:23 PM
Wow, great progress so far. I'm interested in hearing about your journey so far and how you've created so much success from week to week.

Thanks! My success is simply due to staying 100% OP. I have not cheated once and I have no desire to. I love IP though; it has truly changed my life (like many others on here). I'm even going back to school this Fall and going into a career that will keep me active and outdoors the rest of my life (since I will finally be fit)!

BeccaGrim
02-20-2013, 11:27 PM
I had someone give me an entire speech about how bad it was. How all I needed to do was follow what she did which was to eat 'whole foods' and we would lose together. She has quite a bit to lose herself. I lost 10 pounds that week and she ate an entire box of cookies.

Its really about being dedicated and stick with what works for you. I tell people I'm on Ideal Protein and its Medically Supervised. They have nothing to say after that but positive things. I told my Gyn the other day and she knew it and was thrilled for me.

Sounds like you got a real opinionated know it all who knew nothing.

Ojenchilada
02-20-2013, 11:39 PM
Maybe you need a meaner face like mine. People must be too scared that I am going to stab them--no one has dared tell me there was something wrong with this plan.

itzconni3
02-20-2013, 11:48 PM
Welcome to the forum!

The only people that know that I am on the diet are my husband and one girlfriend. That's it.

Having been overweight my entire adult life and having tried almost every diet out there with limited or no success, it was difficult for me to even try another diet.

It was at Christmas I met up with my sister-in-law who I had not seen for months. She has been doing IP and has lost close to 80lb - also without telling anyone. OMG she looked awesome, she explained about IP and I decided that I was worth it and started IP I am sooo glad that I have.

I am losing weight and I feel really good, makes it easier to stay OP

rubygirl05
02-20-2013, 11:57 PM
KTgal, I understand where you're coming from. We have these weight loss contests at work and all I ever hear is how you just need to count calories in vs calories out. If only that was a viable solution for me, but it's not, due to my PCOS issues.

There's always people who think they know what's-what and while their comments may be factual, they often have no clue of all the context and other factors that may be involved. I just try to tune it out and ignore it, but it's not always easy.

leannekarella
02-21-2013, 12:10 AM
Welcome!

I too have PCOS, hypothyroid, and I also have diabetes.

This diet was actually suggested to me (strongly!) by my sister who is an RN and manages a cardiac rehab unit. (I also have heart issues).

I have one friend who does weight watchers...she's ALWAYS on weight watchers and loses 10 gains it back, loses 15, gains it back cycle. I have maintained my weight for 2 years after finally being able to take off about 30lbs and then tore a couple shoulder ligaments and couldn't work out any longer.

IP is my lifesaver!

That friend on WW... She very much poo-pooed the idea of IP because it's not natural, it's not healthy (what does she know, she's a lawyer, not a doctor!) and that there's NO WAY you can possibly eat so few calories for an extended period of time and not go crazy and jump off the speeding train into the land of eating everything you can get your hands on.

That was a conversation I had with her after 2 weeks on the diet.

I have not had an urge to jump off the train. In fact, after 25lb loss in 2 months, the first massive loss, and the easiest I might add, I've had in years of battling insulin resistance... No way am I EVER going to jump off the train until I either reach my goal, or the surgeon says it's time for surgery (heart)...and then as soon as I can, I'm back to finish off the weight loss!

I have only told my friends and family I'm on the diet. Most are very supportive. My WW friend has actually come around now that she sees my progress.

If you're not ready to argue your point, then I just wouldn't say anything. I don't. I just really like the un-asked-for compliments when they come, and then I say, "Yes, I've lost a few pounds. Thanks!" :D

EPAPRN
02-21-2013, 05:55 AM
yes, I have had that experience as well, although not as much as the 'how do you expect to maintain weight loss on that type of diet'. Lucky for me, IP is rampant in my hospital, so I throw out a few examples of people who have maintained for 1+years and then they look at me like, 'oh, yeah'.

Cheekyskeeter
02-21-2013, 06:30 AM
I was just at my doctors office yesterday and she was thrilled with the results especially since I'm officially off my blood pressure meds. The only thing she warned me about was to watch my salt intake.

Glover girl
02-21-2013, 06:38 AM
Hi ladies, I took a different approach by telling my family and friends, and some People at work. I figured I needed more accountability:) no one has said a negative word about this diet to me (so far)
It's supposed to snow hard today so maybe I won't make it to weigh in today, we'll see.

lisa32989
02-21-2013, 08:01 AM
I was just at my doctors office yesterday and she was thrilled with the results especially since I'm officially off my blood pressure meds. The only thing she warned me about was to watch my salt intake.
Docs who don't understand ketogenic diets often don't realize how diuretic they are. I'm not telling you NOT to watch sodium intake but for many of us the sodium hasn't mattered that much. The only issue I have is when my DINNER is also high sodium (like ham or frequent restaurant visits).

Maybe you need a meaner face like mine. People must be too scared that I am going to stab them--no one has dared tell me there was something wrong with this plan.
Ha!

I had someone give me an entire speech about how bad it was. How all I needed to do was follow what she did which was to eat 'whole foods' and we would lose together. She has quite a bit to lose herself. I lost 10 pounds that week and she ate an entire box of cookies.

Its really about being dedicated and stick with what works for you. I tell people I'm on Ideal Protein and its Medically Supervised. They have nothing to say after that but positive things. I told my Gyn the other day and she knew it and was thrilled for me.
Man if I could have the discipline to lose this weight with whole foods I would have! The highly processed IP foods kept me from doing it for EIGHT MONTHS after I found out about it! However diving into a box of cookies is NOT eating whole foods! LOL!

The medically supervised aspect keeps people from rendering their opinion to me, as well!

Or you can give Lisa's response :) I like hers too :)
My doc had all the info right in front of him when he was being snarky. He doesn't like it when ideas aren't his. That's why he got the sarcastic response from me. It made my point and followed this rule: say what you mean, mean what you say, don't say it mean. I actually said it very straight-forward and factual, not nearly as sarcastically as I meant it! :)

ragdoll74
02-21-2013, 08:34 AM
I'm new to IP and the forum! I just started on Sunday and so far so good!
:welcome:
I've had my share of negative comments from people too. I learned my lesson and now am prepared whenever someone asks me how I am losing weight. I tell them that my Dr's office has a weight loss specialist and she put me on a weight loss program. If they press for more info, I tell them it is highly restrictive...low calorie, low fat.

I find most people stop listening at that point, and just say good for you. If I feel like it is someone who is genuinely asking for help losing weight, I tell them about IP.

So, in December, when I showed up at my doctor's office 45 lbs lighter than he'd seen me in June, all he could say to me was: You didn't need to buy packets to do this. You could have done it with real food.

ahem. Really?

I looked straight at him and said back "Yep, that was working great for me, wasn't it? I got to 260"

He shut up after that. I preferred him speechless than jerky.

Now I've lost 65 and he can Kiss my ever-shrinking .... :)


That's funny. I'll have to remember that in case someone makes a similiar comment to me.


I feel like talking to people about dieting is almost like talking to someone about religion or politics. Every has their own theory on life and the way it should be lived, and the best thing to do is just wish them the best of luck and let them know this is the BEST decision for you right now, which is clearly all that matters.

Never thought of it this way, but it is so true.

pocahontas812
02-21-2013, 08:58 AM
Hi ladies, I took a different approach by telling my family and friends, and some People at work. I figured I needed more accountability:) no one has said a negative word about this diet to me (so far)
It's supposed to snow hard today so maybe I won't make it to weigh in today, we'll see.

I also told most of my family and friends and lots of coworkers. I started IP late October and knew people would be wondering why I wasn't eating certain things at holiday dinners and family parties. Everyone has been super supportive, and make a huge effort to ensure that there is something I can eat at events I go to. My coworkers are mostly healthcare providers (RN, PharmD, MD) and maybe as they get the science behind it they are better at accepting the diet. Also, as I am an RN, they likely assume that I wouldn't be following a diet that would jeopardize my health.

I was just at my doctors office yesterday and she was thrilled with the results especially since I'm officially off my blood pressure meds. The only thing she warned me about was to watch my salt intake.

I also have to be very careful with the salt intake, in fact I rarely add salt to my foods. I experience extreme water retention throughout my menstrual cycle (not just around time of TOM) and had been taking a diuretic daily. That had to be stopped last month as my potassium was too low (long-term issue with the diuretic, not related to IP). After stopping the diuretic I realized that I had been rather dehydrated. Feeling great now, but any added salt really causes me to hold on to the water....to the point of being very uncomfortable.

ktgal
02-21-2013, 09:54 AM
Hello!!

Thanks for all your responses! I think I'll be keeping IP to myself from now on! When I said something I actually thought since I was at a weightloss support group that people would be.... well supportive!

lol I used to have a mean face apparently but I guess not so much anymore! People seem to confuse my nonjudgmental demeanor ( not to toot my own horn or anything but my parents worked with the mentally ill and criminals and taught me a lot about treating everyone fairly and with compassion) as a walk all over me sticker!

Anyway after I posted last night I was thinking about it and I did mention that my Dr. office supported the diet and had someone at the office (in Canada it doesn't need to go through a medical professional). She was really upset that my Doctor would be supporting something that "people make money off of". This naysayer sells that Body by Vi stuff.... Anyway I just smiled and said, "Well I like it and it works for me." Well see what she has to say when I'm at my goal! :D

Thanks again everyone for the supportive words I really appreciate it!

Also, one gal mentioned the thyroid and soy.....would you care to elaborate??

fatfreeflirt
02-21-2013, 10:35 AM
Just started this program in December to be supportive of my daughter -- she had been having weight issues due to Thyroid. She had been having all the Thyroid issues and tests with specialists involved -- very scary stuff. But our family doctor finally suggested she had a very simple vitamin D deficiency which leads to low thyroid problems. Long story short - it worked!! She has been taking Vitamin D supplements and doing this diet 100% OP. The Thyroid problems have been slowing fading away and the weight has been coming off. I am very grateful to this diet as it has been difficult watching her struggle with her weight and being soo depressed. I am very proud of her -- she is currently down 32 lbs! The great side result is that I also have lost 33 lbs! Thank you ladies for being here and soo supportive -- even though I have not posted I have been reading since the beginning of our journey!! It's a joke in our family that when we have a question about our IP diet to "just ask the 3 fat chicks" they know everything :D

NinjaNurse
02-21-2013, 10:38 AM
Hello!!

Thanks for all your responses! I think I'll be keeping IP to myself from now on! When I said something I actually thought since I was at a weightloss support group that people would be.... well supportive!

lol I used to have a mean face apparently but I guess not so much anymore! People seem to confuse my nonjudgmental demeanor ( not to toot my own horn or anything but my parents worked with the mentally ill and criminals and taught me a lot about treating everyone fairly and with compassion) as a walk all over me sticker!

Anyway after I posted last night I was thinking about it and I did mention that my Dr. office supported the diet and had someone at the office (in Canada it doesn't need to go through a medical professional). She was really upset that my Doctor would be supporting something that "people make money off of". This naysayer sells that Body by Vi stuff.... Anyway I just smiled and said, "Well I like it and it works for me." Well see what she has to say when I'm at my goal! :D

Thanks again everyone for the supportive words I really appreciate it!

Also, one gal mentioned the thyroid and soy.....would you care to elaborate??

Does this woman not watch TV??? Fighting fat is a HUGE money making business!!! What is Body by Vi??? Is she making money off of it???

Ishbel
02-21-2013, 10:46 AM
Hello!!

Thanks for all your responses! I think I'll be keeping IP to myself from now on! When I said something I actually thought since I was at a weightloss support group that people would be.... well supportive!

lol I used to have a mean face apparently but I guess not so much anymore! People seem to confuse my nonjudgmental demeanor ( not to toot my own horn or anything but my parents worked with the mentally ill and criminals and taught me a lot about treating everyone fairly and with compassion) as a walk all over me sticker!

Anyway after I posted last night I was thinking about it and I did mention that my Dr. office supported the diet and had someone at the office (in Canada it doesn't need to go through a medical professional). She was really upset that my Doctor would be supporting something that "people make money off of". This naysayer sells that Body by Vi stuff.... Anyway I just smiled and said, "Well I like it and it works for me." Well see what she has to say when I'm at my goal! :D

Thanks again everyone for the supportive words I really appreciate it!

Also, one gal mentioned the thyroid and soy.....would you care to elaborate??

Those body by vi people are CRAZY!!!! I have a few friends on facebook who've done it and post "this is great, I've lost 6 lbs this week, message me to find out how" because if they get so many people under them then they get it for free....some of my friends got really pushy...another reason I didn't really post on facebook what I was doing to lose weight...or even announce how much I lost.

I tried some at a booth once and specifically asked for 'water' as they wanted to give me milk or fruit juice. I thought I'd try it to see if it was a good replacement for IP products. I was going to try it and THEN look at the ingredients. It wasn't 'great' LOL...you need the sugar to drink it.

I do know of some people who've used it sucessfully though so I'm not going to bash it. We all have our own demons and as far as I'm concerned we love IP...it worked (is working) for us. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

I will tell people what I did if they ask though...generally no one really says anything negative anymore. I do hear whispers "ketosis? I'm not doing that, I'm not that *&*$ing crazy!" But no one ever says that to me...challenge me now to say that it will come back immediately :D

Usually I just say/said "I supplemented with protein and removed sugar." And if anyone is concerned "I am/was monitored by my family physican".

leannekarella
02-21-2013, 10:48 AM
Anyway after I posted last night I was thinking about it and I did mention that my Dr. office supported the diet and had someone at the office (in Canada it doesn't need to go through a medical professional). She was really upset that my Doctor would be supporting something that "people make money off of". This naysayer sells that Body by Vi stuff.... Anyway I just smiled and said, "Well I like it and it works for me." Well see what she has to say when I'm at my goal! :D


My doc was urging me to do ANY supervised diet (also I'm in Canada) because I just couldn't "do it on my own". She urged me to try Weight Watchers or something, so she's happy I'm gaining (or losing ha ha) ground with a diet...even though she has a few medical concerns about IP, so she's just going to monitor me through blood tests every month.

leannekarella
02-21-2013, 10:58 AM
Also, one gal mentioned the thyroid and soy.....would you care to elaborate??

There is much research to suggest than soy slows thyroid function, especially in those with thyroid issues. It also can hinder the body's absorption of thyroid medicine, but if you take it on an empty stomach as prescribed, there isn't that much of an issue.

My T4 test (thyroid function) showed that from December (pre-IP) to now, my thyroid function has dropped a little (still in normal range) I am on thyroid medication and have been for close to a decade, and it usually doesn't fluctuate. On the other hand, the low calorie diet can mess with thyroid function, also, and anyone who thinks they might have issues should have their thyroid function tested. If you are COLD a lot during the diet, you should have it checked. Also, sleepiness. My first diagnosis long ago was because I HAD to take a nap every afternoon. My thyroid was not working right.

mrskuby
02-21-2013, 11:11 AM
I've been trying to lose weight for years. I worked out like a fiend and counted calories and never seemed to be able to lose. My boss knew how hard I was trying but just had the opinion that it was simply calories in/calories out...Now that I am losing he says it's because I just needed to stick to something! Unbelieveable!!! I told him that I am sticking to it because it's working! If anything else had worked, I would have kept doing it but the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results!

No matter what you do, someone will be discouraging so you just gotta chalk it up to their own issues and move on!

You are on a great plan and there are so many people here that have had great success to support you! Welcome!!

April Snow
02-21-2013, 11:42 AM
Anyway I casually mentioned starting IP to someone who is also trying (though unsuccessfully) to lose weight and she immediately starting telling me all the reasons why it was a terrible idea and how all I need to do is eat healthy and in moderation. I was a little annoyed..... She was telling me all the things shes does and how that was better.

If you got out of that conversation without looking her up and down and saying "And how's that working for you?" then you are a better person than me!! :lol:

I'm not on IP, but I'm on the Dukan Diet which actually has some similarities. And most people Just.Don't.Get.It. So I tend to try to agree with them, and say yep, it's a crazy fad diet and then ignore what they say. Esp. if it's someone who hasn't been successful doing things "right." My plan is right for me.

bellasamimom
02-21-2013, 11:48 AM
I have decided this time around to keep quiet about what I am doing. I am usually a big blabber mouth and tell everyone. But since I have done HCG and now this in the last two years I just feel more comfortable keeping it to myself. It is hard when I have to go out to eat. Today will be one of those challenges eating out with other Navy wives...

DontGiveUp17
02-21-2013, 11:53 AM
Ya know, you just need to smile at people like them or pray that they become more informed on things. I have a few people in my office who tell me the same things about this diet and I just nod and smile. I feel for people who do not do their research before making such a change in their life. For a while now, I've had three of my own doctors tell me that I need to do some type of low carb diet in order to lose the weight I've been wanting to lose. But ya know, I was my usual hard headed self and just did the basic watch what I eat type of thing. Then, my coworkers 17 year old daughter gained a bunch of weight after their house was damaged by Hurricane Issac and she began to devleop bruising and other health issues. When she went to the Dr., her Dr told her she had developed Insulin REsistance (I have this as well) and that she must follow the Tran Tien diet (which is Ideal Protein but not buying packets and having a coach) immediately. So then I began my research on this diet and it is amazing what Tran Tien and other Dr's have become to understand what can help our bodies. I was stuck at a plateau for over a year just by doing diet and exercise...A YEAR!!!! THis is the only diet that has helped me actually get rid of the fat that I've been working my tail off to get rid of!! So when people bash your diet, just nod and smile and tell them to do their research and wish them luck on their current diet while you pounds melt away!

JuliaB
02-21-2013, 12:09 PM
I have told one close friend, my DD and oldest DS that I am on IP. Oldest DS eats paleo so he "gets it" and DD is my personal cheering section. :carrot:

I have a "friend" who contacted my DIL about IP when my Dr. first set up her clinic. She said this diet was "crap" but she had something better she was using. "Skinny Fiber" or something like that... well, come to find out this "friend" is selling "Skinny Fiber" and was talking smack about IP when she knew nothing about it. (this "friend" doesn't know I'm on IP, she is not on my "need to know" list)

The best part of my story is... this "friend" sent me a text last night and told me I was looking fantastic and asked me what I was doing different. My response... "I'm eating different". :carrot::carrot: Bwahahaha!

ChickieBoom
02-21-2013, 12:12 PM
You are preaching to the choir! I am not on IP but I am on a very low carb eating plan for compulsive overeaters and when I started all I heard from EVERYONE was that I should eat whatever I wanted in moderation. I was ready to slap the next person who said moderation to me. Moderation doesn't work for me. I'm a sugar addict so...

My experience is that every diet plan works...if you stick to it. So the key is finding the program that you will stick to. Good luck to you!

BTW - now that I've lost quite a bit of weight...no one says anything about what I should be doing.

Cheekyskeeter
02-21-2013, 12:12 PM
I haven't told most people exactly what diet I'm on and my coworkers only see the salads etc that I eat for lunch so there's been no questions about any IP products. At first some of my coworkers were shocked at how little I was eating and I could see they weren't sure about this diet but now they can see how well it's working so I get nothing but complimented on. For the weight loss and for being so dedicated. My office stocks the fridge and cupboards with food I can't eat so they are impressed that in 6 weeks I haven't strayed from my diet at all.

4Mom
02-21-2013, 01:40 PM
The only one to give negative feed back was my BF ex-wife and she said "oh I know several people who have done that diet and gained it all back" I then told her that those people did not follow the entire program from start to finish and most likely went back to their old eating habits. Really I think she was just jealous cause I look soooo good and she is still overweight.

Tziri
02-21-2013, 02:25 PM
The only one to give negative feed back was my BF ex-wife and she said "oh I know several people who have done that diet and gained it all back" I then told her that those people did not follow the entire program from start to finish and most likely went back to their old eating habits. Really I think she was just jealous cause I look soooo good and she is still overweight.

Ahh, this story made me smile. Good for you!

goldilocksinct
02-21-2013, 03:00 PM
I am glad I am not alone--I am another one who keeps things to myself. My clothes are starting to get loose and I am starting to get compliments on how certain outfits are "flattering". I laugh in theevening with DH when I say "yeah, that and losing 25 pounds sure makes things more flattering!". I think most people respect my privacy and when I have lost weight in the past I have given the nonverbal communication that I prefer a private comment rather than in front of tons of people. I have always been that way. Plus, I am the "boss" for most folks in my work environment so they are hesitant to say anything that might not be well recieved (but there are always people who are clueless).

I have one manager who reports to me who lost a good amount of weight a couple of years ago (and has kept it off) and said it was something about "Protein" and it works. I bet it is IP and at some point I will ask her.

As far as my lunch, people see me eating salad and washing out my shaker bottle (I live on the puddings) so I don't think anyone would notice anything weird. I have always brought a healthy lunch, and have been on WW for years.

I originally heard about IP from my hair stylist who was pointing out another one in the salon who looks amazing after the diet. She quietly said to me that it was one of those "packaged meal things" and that other clients she knows who did it have gained it all back plus more. When I admitted to her I was doing it last appointment (I wanted her colleague to get the referral credit so I told her) she admitted that the client who was on it was not done with losing but stopped due to the cost. So you never know the real story unless you look into it. Of course we all know that any diet you will gain back if you don't change. I am just happy to find one that seems to suit me!

Desafinado
02-21-2013, 03:00 PM
The people who know I am on IP are on IP, too, with the exception of my mother and a friend I told because I thought it might be something the friend was interested in trying too. Everyone else just knows I am on a restricted eating program monitored by my doctor and I am losing weight.

I hate the negativity and judgment of folks who either don't struggle with weight or knows every.darn.thing about how to lose weight despite being overweight themselves.

Just shut up and let me be great.

ChickieBoom
02-21-2013, 03:47 PM
I told my close friends what I was doing right from the start (not IP but a plan called Greysheet). They didn't seem to really get it but they recognized that I was in critical need of help. After I'd lost about 50 pounds a couple of different friends wanted to try the program but neither lasted more than a day. They were still in the bargaining phase of trying to make excuses for why they should be able to deviate from the plan.

Making a commitment to any diet plan is a deeply personal thing. I'm not doing this for anyone but myself. I was the one who had to live in that body, I was the one who had to face life feeling insecure so nothing that anyone says will derail me from my plan.

65X65
02-21-2013, 04:12 PM
Prefer to keep this personal and close to the vest. Thank heavens for internet support these days!

My two daughters know and although they live thousands of miles away..they are real supportive and my weekly cheering section. My husband is an exercise freak...and that works for him. Watching and exercise have NOT worked for me.....I plateau...and get stuck just as others have said happens to them. At one point for MONTHS I was watching/counting calories ...had a personal trainer 3X a week and also walked an hr a day on the treadmill...I still plateaued after about 12 pounds!! In that process I badly damaged my knees with all the treadmill time and other equipment.

SOOO.....sadly...husband is being kept out of the information loop on this. He just knows I'm over the top careful about what I'm eating...and has chidded me about not getting enough exercise several times in the last few weeks...telling me an hr a day on the treadmill is the least I should be doing. ....anyhooo......Weigh in was today: have dropped 16.7 lbs in 6 weeks!!:carrot:

Once before I lost about 40 lbs...and it was amazing the things people would say. Like they thought they deserved to know....(!)....what I had done...and my most hated comment was the very personal...: "Well....HOW MUCH DID YOU LOSE"? And what weight did you start at? REALLY!!! My answer then is the same as it will be this time...

"..Yes..thanx for noticing. I've lost some weight, but honestly, this conversation makes me uncomfortable." Then I just look at them....
That is a show stopper!

Very few people have the right to that kind of personal info just because they ask....If it is something I am comfortable sharing...I'll do it with out being asked and don't need anyone else's endorsement...or want to be the topic of a conversation to other people, especially when I'm not around.... specifically about "how much weight " I've lost" The polite thing I've always done is to compliment someone I notice has lost a lot of weight...

A simple gigantic smile and ..."You look great! ... And also, I really love your sweater...shoes...etc". Some thing that is obviously a very new part of how they look! Anyway...we are all different, but that's how I'd like someone to react to my loss....and I've got my comment ready for those who think its OK to ask me for my numbers....!

WorldTraveleronIP
02-21-2013, 05:01 PM
Welcome! I too have Hashimoto's (an auto immune hypothyroid disorder) and PCOS. Ideal Protein is the only diet that has ever worked for me and I have been on every one (healthy and starvation).

I don't tell anyone what I am doing unless they specifically ask. I usually just say, I am gluten and dairy free and I am low-carbing. If I don't feel like revealing much, I just say I have gluten and dairy allergies and they back off...though fruit is a sore subject with people. I usually hear how bad my diet must be because it doesn't include fruit.

In fact, we have to fill out these wellness surveys at work to get a discount on health insurance and I got lectured by the automated response for my lack of dairy, whole grains and fruit. Next time the survey is due, I will lie about my diet. I hate that the system doesn't recognize low-carbing.

Msbehaving
02-21-2013, 05:36 PM
IP was recommended for me by my doctor. While I am just starting my IP journey (have my 3rd WI later this afternoon), I have been pretty open about it and have not received any negative feedback. If I did...I'd probably clearly set them straight!! At work, two other people are or have been successful on IP and many others are working at better health in other ways. We are all supportive, so we are interested in what others are doing and supportive in any way we can make it work, not judgmental. People are curious about IP and how it works.

I don't keep secrets very well anyway so I might as well tell. And...I would also then be really embarrassed for someone to catch me cheating so there is an element of accountability about it for me. :)

This week we turned a potential potluck into a brown bag so that we wouldn't tempt people who have a different eating plan. We'd like to make it more about the social and less about the wrong foods! We had a lot of questions for each other about what we were eating and why. The outcome was to schedule a once a month brown bag social.

Halfagain
02-21-2013, 06:30 PM
:-) for those keeping quiet about IP, just remember the "your hair looks nice" comment is a weight loss compliment. I get/got lots of those comments when I see people I haven't seen in a while. Funny how -100 still makes my hair look great! (even if there is a bit less of it)

socalgirl83
02-21-2013, 07:04 PM
Hey All!!

I'm new to IP and the forum! I just started on Sunday and so far so good! (Although I practically ran out of the grocery store today when I caught a whiff of whatever the bakery was cooking....just too much temptation!!)

Anyway I casually mentioned starting IP to someone who is also trying (though unsuccessfully) to lose weight and she immediately starting telling me all the reasons why it was a terrible idea and how all I need to do is eat healthy and in moderation. :( I was a little annoyed..... She was telling me all the things shes does and how that was better. She was also suggesting things that don't work for me....shes a stay at home mom and has a family to feed as well as herself......while I on the other hand work a lot and travel for work often and so does my husband (who I see for 3-4 days every 2 weeks) so I basically have to take care of my self and don't have a whole lot of time to do it)...... Anyway I thought it was a little odd since it was a support group and she wasn't being all that supportive!! (I am my no means saying her ideas wouldn't work but I spent the last 10 years doing that with little movement on the scale) With some of my issues (which I'll mention below) I feel like I need to take action and quick!

I was just wondering if anyone else has had someone berate you when they find out you are on IP.

Finally (sorry this is getting a little long!) just thought I would share a little info about myself since I am new!! I have been overweight my entire life. I also have hypothyroidism and PCOS which are the bane of my existence since my husband and I have been trying to start a family with no success for the last 3 years (with IVF looming on the horizon I NEED to lose a minimum of 45lbs. or they won't do IVF!). Although I have not gained any weight for the last 5 years I also have not lost any. In January my doctors office told me about IP and after a month of research decided this was my opportunity to turn my life around! I have never felt this good starting a "diet" and I am certain with every week I am on IP there will be a little less of me!

Thanks for reading and good luck everyone with your own journey!!

Hi, welcome! I don't post much on this site, but I definitely read what everyone else has to say and I've learned SOOOO much. Your post made me want to respond because till this day (over a year of being on IP) every time I sit down to have a meal or not have a meal with my friends and family they refer to my diet as the crazy, not maintainable, obsessive diet. Or as my sister use to say anyone can lose weight barely eating. What's funny is my crazy, not maintable, obsessive diet has helped me lose over 50lbs, I'm about 10 lbs away from my goal weight and I feel better than I ever have..OH and I've never kept the weight off this long. Every time they eat bad they like to take jabs at my diet, it's like it makes them feel better and I don't say a word...I just smile every morning when my size 2's zip with no problem ;) I've tried to take the route of "educating" them on the diet and explaining the science behind it, but at the end of the day people want a reason to take the easy way out and eat fast food. Enjoy the journey you will have ups and downs but as everyone else said just wait for people to see you drop the weight, they will be begging you for your secret (or in my sisters case begging me to make her some of my yummy OP food) hehe

ktgal
02-21-2013, 07:21 PM
You are preaching to the choir! I am not on IP but I am on a very low carb eating plan for compulsive overeaters and when I started all I heard from EVERYONE was that I should eat whatever I wanted in moderation. I was ready to slap the next person who said moderation to me. Moderation doesn't work for me. I'm a sugar addict so...

My experience is that every diet plan works...if you stick to it. So the key is finding the program that you will stick to. Good luck to you!

BTW - now that I've lost quite a bit of weight...no one says anything about what I should be doing.

You hit the nail on the head!! That is EXACTLY my problem. I LOVE sugar..... I'm not the kind of person who can have "just a little bit" so if I know I'll want a lot of whatever it is, I don't go anywhere near it!

ladylunk
02-21-2013, 07:34 PM
I had my first person tell me that a diet that keeps you in ketosis is very dangerous. Do you think I could come up with a quick response explaining it all? I mentioned the salt, oil, supplements, but could not put into proper words the science behind it. I guess I probably still couldn't...... Even after all my reading here. haha. And being in Canada, I cannot use the medically supervised part. Oh well.

bellasamimom
02-21-2013, 07:35 PM
IP was recommended for me by my doctor. While I am just starting my IP journey (have my 3rd WI later this afternoon), I have been pretty open about it and have not received any negative feedback. If I did...I'd probably clearly set them straight!! At work, two other people are or have been successful on IP and many others are working at better health in other ways. We are all supportive, so we are interested in what others are doing and supportive in any way we can make it work, not judgmental. People are curious about IP and how it works.

I don't keep secrets very well anyway so I might as well tell. And...I would also then be really embarrassed for someone to catch me cheating so there is an element of accountability about it for me. :)

This week we turned a potential potluck into a brown bag so that we wouldn't tempt people who have a different eating plan. We'd like to make it more about the social and less about the wrong foods! We had a lot of questions for each other about what we were eating and why. The outcome was to schedule a once a month brown bag social.


That sounds like such a great idea!!!

JenRem
02-21-2013, 11:27 PM
I hate the negativity and judgment of folks who either don't struggle with weight or knows every.darn.thing about how to lose weight despite being overweight themselves.

Just shut up and let me be great.

Amen!!!

JenRem
02-21-2013, 11:36 PM
Hi, welcome! I don't post much on this site, but I definitely read what everyone else has to say and I've learned SOOOO much. Your post made me want to respond because till this day (over a year of being on IP) every time I sit down to have a meal or not have a meal with my friends and family they refer to my diet as the crazy, not maintainable, obsessive diet. Or as my sister use to say anyone can lose weight barely eating. What's funny is my crazy, not maintable, obsessive diet has helped me lose over 50lbs, I'm about 10 lbs away from my goal weight and I feel better than I ever have..OH and I've never kept the weight off this long. Every time they eat bad they like to take jabs at my diet, it's like it makes them feel better and I don't say a word...I just smile every morning when my size 2's zip with no problem ;) I've tried to take the route of "educating" them on the diet and explaining the science behind it, but at the end of the day people want a reason to take the easy way out and eat fast food. Enjoy the journey you will have ups and downs but as everyone else said just wait for people to see you drop the weight, they will be begging you for your secret (or in my sisters case begging me to make her some of my yummy OP food) hehe

Congrats on your 50 lb weight loss thus far! And so close to goal. I'm very happy for you. You have such a great attitude and must be very resilient to withstand all the negative comments from family/friends. Keep it up - I know you can do it, because you ARE doing it! :hug: Jen

lisa32989
02-21-2013, 11:45 PM
I had my first person tell me that a diet that keeps you in ketosis is very dangerous. Do you think I could come up with a quick response explaining it all? I mentioned the salt, oil, supplements, but could not put into proper words the science behind it. I guess I probably still couldn't...... Even after all my reading here. haha. And being in Canada, I cannot use the medically supervised part. Oh well.
Just don't talk about ketosis. People who say that have NO IDEA what they are talking about. They are thinking about ketoacidosis, which is dangerous.
All you have to say is that you've cut back on sugar and processed carbs and increased veggie consumption. It isn't a lie and it keeps all the controversy out of it. Then change the subject and talk about them! Everyone likes to talk about themselves!

ladylunk
02-22-2013, 12:59 AM
Just don't talk about ketosis. People who say that have NO IDEA what they are talking about. They are thinking about ketoacidosis, which is dangerous.
All you have to say is that you've cut back on sugar and processed carbs and increased veggie consumption. It isn't a lie and it keeps all the controversy out of it. Then change the subject and talk about them! Everyone likes to talk about themselves!

That's a good call. I should have just talked about that more. But speaking of the controversy why is there one anyway? I think I will go google it as pretty sure everyone else has probably gone to bed. Good night.

scorbett1103
02-22-2013, 08:30 AM
That's a good call. I should have just talked about that more. But speaking of the controversy why is there one anyway? I think I will go google it as pretty sure everyone else has probably gone to bed. Good night.

It's more controversy due to lack of knowledge. As Lisa said, the average person confuses ketosis with ketoACIDOSIS, a dangerous condition, even though they are totally different things.

Ketosis and ketogenic diets are actually pretty common in the bodybuilding circuits. Look up "cyclic ketogenic diet" and you'll find tons of bodybuilding/weightlifting references on how to do it.

tam67green
02-22-2013, 04:24 PM
So, in December, when I showed up at my doctor's office 45 lbs lighter than he'd seen me in June, all he could say to me was: You didn't need to buy packets to do this. You could have done it with real food.

ahem. Really?

I looked straight at him and said back "Yep, that was working great for me, wasn't it? I got to 260"

He shut up after that. I preferred him speechless than jerky.

Now I've lost 65 and he can Kiss my ever-shrinking .... :)

I developed hypothyroid while ON IP. I have since cut out soy and gluten because they are notoriously hard on thyroid.

I didn't tell people about IP when I started. I just didn't trust myself to stick to it. Now when people tell me how great I look and say "Keep it up," I almost feel like they really don't know what to say so they say that. People who haven't lost a significant amount of weight have NO IDEA the amount of dedication that it takes. I certainly don't need advice from anyone...well meaning or not. If I want advice, I ask for it here. From the people who understand.

Welcome & glad you joined us!

:lol: Good for you, Lisa!

65X65
02-23-2013, 07:01 AM
..about someone who never fought this fight really understanding. It's reading the comments and the success as well as the struggles from the winners ALL on this forum that is the best motivation enhancer for me.

lovetorun3
02-23-2013, 07:52 AM
ktgal ~ During my informational session, the coach said that there is a direct link to PCOS & hypothyroidism and hyperinsulinemia. IP is the perfect plan for that!
Don't worry about what people say. I've had people tell me that it's unhealthy & I won't keep the weight off. I've done enough research to be confident in the program & it will be up to me to stick to the maintenance plan that I learn when I get out of Phase 1, 2 & 3 :)
Good luck!

ktgal
02-23-2013, 09:55 AM
ktgal ~ During my informational session, the coach said that there is a direct link to PCOS & hypothyroidism and hyperinsulinemia. IP is the perfect plan for that!
Don't worry about what people say. I've had people tell me that it's unhealthy & I won't keep the weight off. I've done enough research to be confident in the program & it will be up to me to stick to the maintenance plan that I learn when I get out of Phase 1, 2 & 3 :)
Good luck!

Thanks for sharing this! I am actually switching coaches because the one I signed up for gave me some bad information what made me kind of sick...... and when I went to my Dr office I told them what was going on and they had me meed the ideal protein rep through their clinic and boy oh boy I'm talked to her when I did before I got really sick!! Anyway my new coach was on just leaving when I talked to her so Im going to meet with her later and she is going to go over everything again to make sure I know all the information. And since she works right with my own personal doctor he is going to monitor me and make sure I'm staying healthy!!

FYI My first coach only gave me calcium and told me that's all I needed for the first bit.....well I got really lightheaded only taking in and it interferes with my thyroid med too (which is huge because my fertility specialist wants it at a very certain level)! There was a few other issues as well but I won't get into it. Anyway I'm feeling even better about things now that I know my doctor is going to be following my progress. :D

Debrasb
02-23-2013, 10:16 AM
This is a huge challenge for me too. I am very uncomfortable sharing about IP unless someone is truly interested, and have found most people very judgmental about it when I have told them.

I just went to a big meeting for work (I work for a medical group) and tried to accept the compliments graciously and make a sort of joke when they asked what I'm doing. I usually say with a smile -- "I eat a whole lot of lettuce!" (it's also a play on my blog, which is called Unlimited Lettuce). Some people pressed for more details and others just said nice things.

ChickieBoom
02-25-2013, 08:55 AM
The only thing I struggle with is that the reason I found my way to where I am is that someone was brave enough to share their secret with me. I always feel a little guilty when someone asks me what I'm doing and I don't tell them the whole truth.

Ishbel
02-25-2013, 09:44 AM
I had my first person tell me that a diet that keeps you in ketosis is very dangerous. Do you think I could come up with a quick response explaining it all? I mentioned the salt, oil, supplements, but could not put into proper words the science behind it. I guess I probably still couldn't...... Even after all my reading here. haha. And being in Canada, I cannot use the medically supervised part. Oh well.

Why can't you? I just took the protocol to my doctor and asked her to give me a three month blood chit (so I could get blood taken without going to see her every three months to get permission) once I got the blood work done I'd make an appointment a week later to review the results. She knew exactly what I was doing and supported me.

Keep ketosis out of it OR learn more about it...ketogenic diets have been around for a long time. They were used to help people with epilepsy before there was drugs. Lots of body builders use them to help define their muscles (although I think they also dehydrate themselves too so probably not the best example :))

I downloaded the beck diet solution (she does cognitive behaviour therapy for weight loss) and she discusses how her son was on a ketogenic diet for yeras to help him with his epilepsy.

Easiest way is to not talk about it...the way that made me most comfortable...was to learn A LOT about it.

Good luck!