Looking Good, Feeling Great - Where can I buy a 'true' size 16? (or, what stores AREN'T vanity sized?)




merilung
01-21-2013, 09:13 PM
I want to buy a true 16R (not 16W) to shrink into as my next mini-goal. What stores do you think are true to size? I was thinking maybe J.Crew - other ideas?


mandalinn82
01-21-2013, 09:18 PM
There is no "True" size. Size charts have changed over the years. Some retailers are worse than others, but no one uses the same measurements they used in, say, the 1950's. They're in constant shift.

This chart is helpful, though, in looking at current sizes:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/04/24/business/20110425_SIZE_graphic/20110425_SIZE_graphic-popup-v2.jpg

avalonmoon
01-21-2013, 10:05 PM
Wow, it amazes me how confusing all these sizes are.
I love Gap/old navy but they are vanity sized, this
must mean I 'think' I'm a 16, however I'm deluded and
I'm still a true 18... ugh


Desiderata
01-21-2013, 10:43 PM
I just found out about this site yesterday and I think it's so nifty. You can input your measurements and it will tell you what size you are at various stores. (The default setting is UK, so one needs to be sure to switch to US.)

What Size Am I? (http://sizes.darkgreener.com/)

I should probably disclaim that I don't know how accurate it is. It sounds about right, though...

merilung
01-21-2013, 11:13 PM
That chart is super mandalinn82, thanks!

chubbiegurl
01-22-2013, 01:38 AM
I just found out about this site yesterday and I think it's so nifty. You can input your measurements and it will tell you what size you are at various stores. (The default setting is UK, so one needs to be sure to switch to US.)

What Size Am I? (http://sizes.darkgreener.com/)

I should probably disclaim that I don't know how accurate it is. It sounds about right, though...

Told me I was a 12 that can't be right. I hope not!

sontaikle
01-22-2013, 08:57 AM
Told me I was a 12 that can't be right. I hope not!

Make sure it's not set for UK sizes. It put me at a 6, originally and since I'm normally a 0/2 I thought that was odd. Switching it to US sizes brought up my correct size :)

bargoo
01-22-2013, 09:38 AM
It isn't the stores that determine the sizes, it is the manufacturer and many times they are crazy, the same manufacturer may have different sizes in two different garments, if you try to figure it out you wil go bananas. I just take two different sizes into the dressing room and buy the one that fits, no matter what the tag may say,

eliza422
01-22-2013, 11:30 AM
I laughed when I saw "true size" - there's no such thing!!! It's all a big game trying to figure out what size clothing we need...I hate that.

I just tried that website for sizes - luckily I just measured last week - my "curve" doesn't really work for anyone! I have more of a very shallow dip...darn bullet shape of mine :-)

elvislover324
01-22-2013, 11:41 AM
Wow, it amazes me how confusing all these sizes are.
I love Gap/old navy but they are vanity sized, this
must mean I 'think' I'm a 16, however I'm deluded and
I'm still a true 18... ugh

Any way that I can be a 16 in an 18 world of mine I'll take it!

I was reading somewhere (maybe on that link) that brands that run big for sizes sell a boatload more of their brand as women want to feel "skinny". I'd have to say, it would work for me now during my weightloss transition. I am only an 18 in certain pants but it sure does make me happy as it shows progress to me. If I could do a 16 in ANY brand, I'd be doing cartwheels all around town. (And yes, I would still "know" I was as big as an 18. It's just mental to me I guess.)

betsy2013
01-22-2013, 11:47 AM
I'll just be thrilled when I get to the point where the sizing isn't done with a series of XXXX. Actually getting a number -- even if it's initially in the 20s -- will be a big step forward. I'm convinced that there's no standardization any more because if we have to go into a store to shop and have to try on many different items, we'll end up buying more.

Radiojane
01-22-2013, 01:34 PM
I'll just be thrilled when I get to the point where the sizing isn't done with a series of XXXX. Actually getting a number -- even if it's initially in the 20s -- will be a big step forward. I'm convinced that there's no standardization any more because if we have to go into a store to shop and have to try on many different items, we'll end up buying more.

Amen. Or a size without a "w" after the number.

Gemmi85
01-27-2013, 01:32 AM
Amen. Or a size without a "w" after the number.

So true!

AlmostMe
01-27-2013, 05:46 AM
I have a pair of 18s from Lands End that fit me better than a pair of 18Ws also from Lands End. I have 'identical' navy chinos from Lands End - both size 18W, one is tight, the other isn't.

marigrace
01-27-2013, 06:41 AM
I bought 2 pair of jeans different colors...same size....same label. One fit, and the other was baggy....go figa.....

Vex
01-27-2013, 12:10 PM
Thanks for posting that link. It put me exactly where I thought I was.

What I've done is purchased the same brand of jeans the entire time. Luckily it's a brand that makes the same style from 22 down to 2. If it's on sale, I'll buy some in lower sizes too.

If I had to try on multiple things in multiple stores, I'd just go crazy at this point.

Elladorine
01-28-2013, 02:20 AM
I just found out about this site yesterday and I think it's so nifty. You can input your measurements and it will tell you what size you are at various stores. (The default setting is UK, so one needs to be sure to switch to US.)

What Size Am I? (http://sizes.darkgreener.com/)

I should probably disclaim that I don't know how accurate it is. It sounds about right, though...
I appreciate the link, but wow . . . the waist measurement doesn't go high enough for me. :lol: But to be fair the measurement charts never work properly for me since I'm an apple/oval; I just need to actually try various things on and hope for the best.

Hotaruchan
01-29-2013, 08:50 AM
Hahaha...that sizing site told me that I'd fit into 2s and 4s...it's so sweet of it to lie to me like that. 64 cm jeans are still in the mid to high end of normal sizes here, so I can't imagine that it equates to something that much smaller back at home...

EagleRiverDee
01-29-2013, 02:56 PM
I don't think there is a true size. I get pants in my size that are all over the board. I'm an 18, generally, but 18's from Lands End are tight in the waist on me, whereas 18's from Eddie Bauer are about 4" loose on my waist (but fit my legs great). It's a guessing game and you just have to try them on, I guess, and be prepared to return the ones that don't fit.

cherrypie
01-29-2013, 03:40 PM
what would a true size be? no matter what decade you are looking at or what store, they are just made up standards.

btw, when I worked at a clothing store lots of times people would try on, say, a 12 and it would be too small so they would try a 14 and it would be too big so I would just get them another 12 and it would fit. Sizes can vary according to who sewed them at the factory. And probably even where they were in the pile when the pieces were cut.

avalonmoon
01-29-2013, 05:34 PM
Any way that I can be a 16 in an 18 world of mine I'll take it!

I was reading somewhere (maybe on that link) that brands that run big for sizes sell a boatload more of their brand as women want to feel "skinny". I'd have to say, it would work for me now during my weightloss transition. I am only an 18 in certain pants but it sure does make me happy as it shows progress to me. If I could do a 16 in ANY brand, I'd be doing cartwheels all around town. (And yes, I would still "know" I was as big as an 18. It's just mental to me I guess.)

Elvislover, It does have a 'guilty pleasure' feeling to wear 16s even though their vanity..however they psychological games some stores are playing make me feel downright creepy...last weekend I was not in the fitting room, I was in the rack areas of Marshalls, every mirror had me looking skinny, Ibcouldn't take it, it was like they are there to 'lie to us' so we'll think 'heck ya, I'm goin' home w/ this stuff'. Suffice to say I bought ziltch there. lol
You should indulge in gap/old navy..they have cute jeans too. :D

avalonmoon
01-29-2013, 05:37 PM
I bought 2 pair of jeans different colors...same size....same label. One fit, and the other was baggy....go figa.....

Marigrace, were they old navy? That happens there a lot. They have too many countries manufacturing them.

elvislover324
01-29-2013, 05:54 PM
Elvislover, It does have a 'guilty pleasure' feeling to wear 16s even though their vanity..however they psychological games some stores are playing make me feel downright creepy...last weekend I was not in the fitting room, I was in the rack areas of Marshalls, every mirror had me looking skinny, Ibcouldn't take it, it was like they are there to 'lie to us' so we'll think 'heck ya, I'm goin' home w/ this stuff'. Suffice to say I bought ziltch there. lol
You should indulge in gap/old navy..they have cute jeans too. :D

OMG, you are so right!! Marshalls does have those tricky mirrors now that I think of it! They have nice lighting too! I bought an outfit back in November for Thanksgiving and when I got home and tried it on in front of my husband, it didn't look half as good to me as I remembered in the store. And the stuff went back!

I wrote on another thread that I bought a new (to me) pair of Levis at the Goodwill store (I swear they are brand new without the tags, they are in perfect condition). They cost me $2.50 and are a size 20. Mentally, I never wanted to wear a size 20 again (I finally can get into 18Ws) but for the price and fit of these jeans, I loved them enough to buy them. I went to Levis site when I got home to see how much they were in case I decide to buy a new pair at regular price and they are $50 (on sale from $58!). I could never ever spend that much on a pair of jeans, no matter how great my butt looked.

I have a pair of Old Navy jeans in an 18 (no W) and can finally get them up and buttoned but can neither breathe nor sit in them yet (last week I couldn't button them!). I can already tell I am going to love them too.

My body is so different this time around with my weightloss, I don't understand it but I think I love it. Except for the belly pouch I am getting. Not loving that and never had it before with my weightloss. Hopefully I can work on that.

avalonmoon
01-30-2013, 03:30 PM
OMG, you are so right!! Marshalls does have those tricky mirrors now that I think of it! They have nice lighting too! I bought an outfit back in November for Thanksgiving and when I got home and tried it on in front of my husband, it didn't look half as good to me as I remembered in the store. And the stuff went back!

I wrote on another thread that I bought a new (to me) pair of Levis at the Goodwill store (I swear they are brand new without the tags, they are in perfect condition). They cost me $2.50 and are a size 20. Mentally, I never wanted to wear a size 20 again (I finally can get into 18Ws) but for the price and fit of these jeans, I loved them enough to buy them. I went to Levis site when I got home to see how much they were in case I decide to buy a new pair at regular price and they are $50 (on sale from $58!). I could never ever spend that much on a pair of jeans, no matter how great my butt looked.

I have a pair of Old Navy jeans in an 18 (no W) and can finally get them up and buttoned but can neither breathe nor sit in them yet (last week I couldn't button them!). I can already tell I am going to love them too.

My body is so different this time around with my weightloss, I don't understand it but I think I love it. Except for the belly pouch I am getting. Not loving that and never had it before with my weightloss. Hopefully I can work on that.
Elvislover, I can't stand they practice techniques as those.

My hubby installed a full length mirror in our walk in closet, when I'm weak and bring something home to wear, it has to meet the 'true' mirror test here. I have eliminated buying much due to their tactics..too bad I hadn't done this when I wore above 18s because the only ones who benefited from so much I had past bought (70%) was the goodwill.:dizzy:
Glad you are wise to them too, the retailers are mind players..

elvislover324
01-30-2013, 05:34 PM
I do a lot of buying and returning now that I am on my weightloss mission. Clothes are too expensive to settle for less than total happiness to me this time around.

I haven't shown up on any warning lists at the stores as far as I know for excessive buying and returning, I'm not that bad! I just like to try things on now in my mirrors with the coordinating shoes/accessories/pants or skirt or top that I would pair with it.

I have way too many clothes in my closet still with the tags on them that I just "had" to have way back when I bought them. Done with that!