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Remington90
01-17-2013, 05:54 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong ! I started this at 250 lbs. Haven't budged. Measurements, haven't budged. I've stuck to a diet of 1550 cals a day. With 2 days out of 2 weeks, gone over that. I exercise at least 3 times a week for at least 30 minutes each time. Heart rate at 145-160. I'm 22 and 5'8.

My lifestyle before was completely uncontrolled. Ate what I wanted, when I wanted. Probabaly pushed 3000 cals a day. NO exercise other than my job. It was a chore to even go for a walk to get the mail or go back in the house because I forgot something.

I've cut out alcohol completely, soda, cookies, treats, any bleached or white carbs, chocolate, candy, fast food (with the exception of a chinese buffet last saturday and 6 chicken nuggets from McD's yesterday because of time restraint).

I weight train at least 4 days a week also. I drink plenty of water and have at least 1 green tea a day. What is going on!? I want to rip my hair out and scream. I've never EVER stuck to something like this before. And I'm so porud of myself for sticking with it, but I've had NO results. I feel like I'm failing myself. I don't know what more I can possibly put into my plan. I've started to cut out eating after 8 pm (I go to bed around midnight or 1am almost every night). I take protein powder in the morning or after a workout. (its low cal, low fat, low carb)

It's so discouraging and maddening. I'm irritable, upset. The only possible thing could be a thyroid problem but seriously... NOTHING ? I've had nothing out of all of this ?

Dont know what to do. :(:(:(


Moondance
01-17-2013, 06:06 PM
More experienced people than I will have good suggestions and advice. I wanted to encourage you to not give up. You don't indicate how long you've been doing this, but you need to be more patient with yourself and your body. You can do it!

concminus40
01-17-2013, 06:12 PM
Don't quite! You CAN do it!! I know it's frustrating but I think it takes our bodies a bit to adjust. Do you count calories, drink 64 oz of water and eat at least 1200 calories a day? I am using my fitness pal and that has really helped me out. I'm no expert by any means but it just takes a little time.


Remington90
01-17-2013, 06:14 PM
More experienced people than I will have good suggestions and advice. I wanted to encourage you to not give up. You don't indicate how long you've been doing this, but you need to be more patient with yourself and your body. You can do it!

Thanks :hug:. I'm not going to give up, I'm just tired of staying where I am. I want to get moving.

And I've been at this for 2 weeks.

concminus40
01-17-2013, 06:15 PM
Did you see your Dr and get a check up done?

Remington90
01-17-2013, 06:19 PM
No, here in Canada, we might have "free" healthcare but it takes forever to get in. I have an appointment with ym family doc in June.. that I made in SEPTEMBER. I don't know if walk-in clinics will tell me anything.

And I do count calories. I used the sparkpeople app for the first half of this journey and then switched to Lose It! because of the friends feature. I've counted and measured everything. I measure tablespoons of ketchup and log that I used a sprinkle of basil spice.

Been in and out of tears today. I'm sure this stress isn't helping.

concminus40
01-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Holy cow! I will never complain about having to wait 2 weeks for a dr appt again! You're right about the stress. My fitness pal has the friends feature also. Be patient, have faith! I have been at it for 2 weeks to and I am going to lose weight! I have to tell myself that :D Hang in there and this is a great place for support!

Remington90
01-17-2013, 06:37 PM
Thanks. I'm gunna keep at it and hold on. Praying for results for Mondays weigh in. Don't know what I'll do if there's still no imporvement.

I knew this wasn't going to be easy, but I feel like I'm trying to move a mountain.

concminus40
01-17-2013, 06:40 PM
You are going to do it the same way you climb a mountain.........one step at a time, one day at a time! You got this!

elvislover324
01-17-2013, 06:49 PM
:hug:Remington90, hugs!! :hug:

I know how frustrating this can be and it seems like the harder I "diet" (eat, exercise, water, etc.) the worse my results are.

I hope you keep going and know it's impossible to not pay off, I'm just sorry you are having to wait. Hopefully it's something like your TOM that's just happening to coincide with all your hard work.

It made me sad to see you cried, I cry too when I am so frustrated about things.

It's so hard to stay on plan but you can do it, I just know it!! :hug:

NorthernChick13
01-17-2013, 06:56 PM
I'm sorry to hear you are having a rough time :( But, I am glad to see that you came here for support :) I just started my journey too and before I began, I read that often your body retains water because it's so surprised about all the changes. Eventually, a big whoosh happens. I am not sure if this is what's happening in your case, but it sounds like you're doing everything right so far.

It will take time and sometimes it will be slow. Just remember that you can achieve ANYTHING and in time, the scale will validate that too. Weight loss is a scary thing. We can help you stay brave :)

Remington90
01-17-2013, 06:57 PM
:hug:Remington90, hugs!! :hug:

I know how frustrating this can be and it seems like the harder I "diet" (eat, exercise, water, etc.) the worse my results are.

I hope you keep going and know it's impossible to not pay off, I'm just sorry you are having to wait. Hopefully it's something like your TOM that's just happening to coincide with all your hard work.

It made me sad to see you cried, I cry too when I am so frustrated about things.

It's so hard to stay on plan but you can do it, I just know it!! :hug:

Thanks so much. I have faith in myself and I know I can do this.
Im gunna get some kettle balls, get on the elliptical and quit eating after 8 completely. Except water and green tea. Thanks for all being in support. Wish I had friends in my day to day life thy were half as supportive as you guys are.

penmage
01-17-2013, 07:08 PM
:hug: Hang in there!

Lacyt74
01-17-2013, 07:10 PM
If u are weight training too, that may have something to do with it....aerobic activity 3 x a week, weight training 4 x a week? I wouldnt weight train just yet... Muscle weighs more than fat and if u are building muscle,....well you get it.

Remington90
01-17-2013, 07:14 PM
If u are weight training too, that may have something to do with it....aerobic activity 3 x a week, weight training 4 x a week?

Yes, typically. I do arms one day, legs another day and core another day. I do more on my arms then legs cause I ride a stationary bike as cardio and that works my legs hard. I'm thinking of doing squats and crunches and other things I can do at home, before I go to bed at night.

Lacyt74
01-17-2013, 07:17 PM
I would take measurements then. You could be getting smaller, but is not reflecting on the scale due to weight training. Also....it's two weeks in. You may be gearing up for a big ole whoosh!

Remington90
01-17-2013, 07:21 PM
I have taken measurements and that hasn't changed either.

Lacyt74
01-17-2013, 07:26 PM
Ok, we'll then....I shall keep my fingers crossed 4u then :crossed:

r4ch3l
01-17-2013, 07:29 PM
Frustration sometimes lessen our motivation but we must overcome it because achieving our goal is what really counts.

nationalparker
01-17-2013, 07:32 PM
Aside from the data that the scale and measuring tape are showing you, are you feeling better? Feeling better about being active, sleeping any better? Do you feel proud that you're doing what your body needs and wants? Feel good that you're committed to doing better and are following through? Maybe continue on but don't check the scale and get your reinforcement from your ability to do more, exercise longer, feel better. Make sure that you're eating the way that you can continue eating - that it's a life change, not a majorly restrictive diet.

Good luck - I know it's frustrating but you're doing what you need to do! It's only two weeks and with any added activity, our muscles will retain water ... many quality trainers recommend that those starting out in exercise do not weigh for 5-6 weeks. It's common that the scale doesn't reflect the effort early on.

Remington90
01-17-2013, 07:54 PM
I feel so selfish for complaining about this. I'm not goign to give up. And I do feel better about myself. I guess I just want one person to say 'Hey Remington, you look like you've lost some weight. You look awesome!'. I know it takes time. I just wasnt sure if I was doing thigns correctly. Maybe my muscles are just retaining water.

I'll keep on keepin on.
As my uncle would say, "everything has to be some way, and that's the way that is." words I often live by.

Thanks all !

Aileen
01-17-2013, 07:57 PM
TOM? Salt? Muscle gain vs fat loss? Been at it at least 21 days?

April Snow
01-17-2013, 08:03 PM
You are NOT selfish for complaining about this. It's very hard to put the effort in and not see any change, esp. right at the beginning. I give you lots of credit for sticking with it, and I hope your hard work gets a reward very soon!

Remington90
01-17-2013, 08:04 PM
TOM? Salt? Muscle gain vs fat loss? Been at it at least 21 days?

TOM, no--in the middle of my cycle.
Salt, I've been trying my best to manage. I've cut out all processed foods (as much as humanly possible) as well as fast foods and packaged foods of any kind.
21 days, no. 14 days.

Muscle gain my be attributing, I just thought i'd see SOMETHING on the measuring tape.

mandypandy2246
01-17-2013, 08:07 PM
Also, some scales don't work very accurately at high weights. How good is your scale. you may just see a woosh some day .. and that could be your body just catching up and releasing extra water weight ... but it could be that the scales don't work as well at high numbers. I had a scale that seemed to only move in increments of five over 220 or so.

Vex
01-17-2013, 08:07 PM
I wish I could say if you eat x amount you will lose x every week. It's just simply not the case for the majority of people in the long haul.

There are times when you will stay completely on plan and lose nothing for 2 weeks, or LONGER. Many people find they tend to lose weight in "chunks", nothing for a good while then bam, 5 lbs in one day. It's your overall weight loss that matters.

While that's easy to understand, it's far from easy to keep it from discouraging you. That's really one of the keys to weight loss in my opinion, to keep going despite seeing no movement on the scale.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of days off plan as well. You said you ate over 1500 two days out of 2 weeks, if I understand correctly. Were those days way over in calories? Did they have a lot of carbs or salty foods? Any one of those things could be the cause of what you are seeing.

Just don't give up - I mean, what's the alternative?

Remington90
01-17-2013, 08:11 PM
The one day was probabaly way over. I'm going to guestimate around 2200 cals that day. Went to a chinese buffet and I only had one fried item (chicken sooguy, so good). But I made wise choices other than that. Had a sliver of birthday cake as it was my boyfriends, grandmothers 80th birthday.

The other time I didn't really go over per-se, just didn't make the wisest meal choices.

Vex
01-17-2013, 08:14 PM
Oh man, Chinese food.

That does a number on my body as it's super high in sodium. It usually takes me a week to get the inevitable 4 lbs of water weight off.

Maybe that's it hopefully. :)

Aileen
01-17-2013, 08:16 PM
TOM, no--in the middle of my cycle.
Salt, I've been trying my best to manage. I've cut out all processed foods (as much as humanly possible) as well as fast foods and packaged foods of any kind.
21 days, no. 14 days.

Muscle gain my be attributing, I just thought i'd see SOMETHING on the measuring tape.

Give it another week of what you're doing and you should see the first few lbs come off, but it can take up to six weeks for your body to readjust to the changes you're making and to release all the toxins, salt, retained water, and finally fat held in your cells.

You can do it! Hang in there, consistency is queen.

Remington90
01-17-2013, 08:18 PM
This might be a dumb question, but how long does "water weight" stay in the body ? Say hypothetically I ate a bag of salted chips. Now despite the fact that they're chips and they're bad for you.. the salt intake. how long would I hold onto that water ? Why am I drinking a ton of water if I'm ALREADY holding water weight?

Any tips to let go of the water weight.

Remington90
01-17-2013, 08:19 PM
Give it another week of what you're doing and you should see the first few lbs come off, but it can take up to six weeks for your body to readjust to the changes you're making and to release all the toxins, salt, retained water, and finally fat held in your cells.

You can do it! Hang in there, consistency is queen.

Would an internal detox help ? Foot detox ro remove toxins help ?

I'm not looking for a miracle product. I know it takes hard work and determination. But if doing a cleanse or detox would rid of the toxins, I just might giver a try.

Ado Annie
01-17-2013, 08:28 PM
I'd bet money that what you're dealing with is water weight. The female body is weird that way -- ovulation, TOM, sodium, hard new exercise -- ****, I'm bloated right now and none of those things apply to me today.

You say you're doing weight training four times a week -- did you just start doing that two weeks ago? That can make your muscles retain water. That chinese buffet and those chicken nuggets you ate were SURELY stuffed with sodium. That'll make you retain water too. If you're in the middle of your cycle you could very easily be ovulating right now, which always causes me to retain water. Triple water weight whammy, right there.

I'm in the same boat as you -- I've been OP for two weeksish and haven't seen much weight loss yet. It sucks when you see other people starting diets and getting gigantic immediate whooshes but you know what?? That's water weight too. And if you ARE retaining a lot of it, the good thing is eventually you get to have a whoosh where it all goes away.

The truth is that weight loss is really gradual and sometimes two weeks isn't enough time to see a change. I lost 30 pounds a couple of years ago, and that really got me to this point where I know my body and how it fluctuates.
You'll get there too!! After a awhile, you're going to be able to get on the scale, see that you haven't dropped, and say "psh! This always happens right before my period!" Don't take the scale too seriously. Take measurements more seriously, but I don't think you can really see results there if you're looking at them more than monthly??? I don't know. But you're doing a good thing for yourself. Keep doing it, and in a month you'll definitely have seen results. In two months, you'll have seen anymore.

Aileen
01-17-2013, 08:28 PM
Would an internal detox help ? Foot detox ro remove toxins help ?

I'm not looking for a miracle product. I know it takes hard work and determination. But if doing a cleanse or detox would rid of the toxins, I just might giver a try.

I would give it 6 weeks of what you're doing, make sure you're watching processed foods, salt, sugar and sweetner (sweetners are evil) and get lots of fiber and protein. I've made the mistake of focusing on fruits and veg and then wonder why I'm not losing, it's because your body wants protein and can really use that protein to fuel muscle growth. Protein and fiber really helps you fill up.

If you see no change after 6 weeks and haven't found another explanation you could try a 3 day juice fast or a detox program.

nationalparker
01-17-2013, 08:41 PM
I wouldn't try to mess with a detox - our bodies are miracles the way they work to start with - they'll retain water to deal with extra sodium, muscle activity, humidity, etc. You can go to bed at one weight, breathe in the dry air all night, and wake up less in the morning ... it's merely one tool that gives you data about your body. Don't give the scale and the tape any power over what you KNOW to do for health.

You're doing what's right for you - eating healthier, getting healthy oils to absorb the nutrients you're eating, moving more. Keep a positive attitude. Continue to make smart choices. Journal if it'll help. But our bodies deal with toxins naturally - for FREE. :)

Remington90
01-17-2013, 08:47 PM
Thanks everyone :). I'm praying its water weight and I'm going to go get myself another green tea. i'm surprised how much this stuff actualy supresses my appetite.

Can't wait for the "whooosh". Also, probably starting the 30 day shred this weekend. I'm excited !

Lacyt74
01-18-2013, 10:24 AM
Keep on, keeping on Remi! It WILL happen! Patience Grasshoppah....:)

MzPiggy
01-18-2013, 10:32 AM
Hey there, congrats on sticking to your diet regimine, thats hard to do sometimes, being consistent. The few things I can think of is you said you are weight training, and since muscle weighs more than fat, it may take a little bit to see some lbs drop off. Also, you said you are drinking a protein shake ... is that in place of a meal? Is it made with whey powder? I know when I started taking a protein shake as post workout snack, I didnt lose any weight, but when I started using it place of a meal, then I seen results.

You can always get your blood tested to see if it IS your thyroid. I was so desperate to lose weight a few months ago, that I had mine tested AND I had my IUD taken out because I swore it was stopping me from losing weight ... I was wrong. It wasnt my thyroid or the IUD LoL ...go figure.

Good luck and keep up the routine and I'm sure you will see results soon! *HUGS*+

Amarantha2
01-18-2013, 10:33 AM
Please don't worry about this. I am sorry I didn't read through the thread too carefully so this has probably been said or I might not be understanding what you said but if you just started making these major changes in calorie level and are just starting weight training, you (as I guess everyone said), are shifting water balance. I personally wouldn't be contemplating anything like detoxing of any kind or anything else other than what you are doing (except I'd reduce weight training from four days a week if you are just starting out and go to two to three light sessions and replace those workouts with walks, but that is just me).

Your calorie level is good and you are doing this in a rational manner, so just hang in. If you don't see any progress in a few more week, you might want to talk to your doctor to rule out anything on that front.

elvislover324
01-18-2013, 10:36 AM
It's true that the more stressed and worried I get, the less of a drop I see on the scale. It eventually catches up, thank God! Just stick to your plan.

I believe it's the hormone cortisol that causes the retention; my stress I had in my life wasn't weightloss related but our bodies don't differentiate like that, they just go into panic mode!

RavenWolf
01-18-2013, 10:39 AM
I was discouraged as well by not seeing any changes....then the weight started coming off.

I have noticed that using My Fitness Pal has been incredibly helpful. It's good you are logging using a similar app.

Are you getting 64oz of water a day? I've been very good at meeting that goal every day. Making sure you are getting that water in is important.

Yep...chinese one day and McD's another probably did do a number on your weight loss just from the sodium standpoint. Is there any way you can completely avoid any kind of restaraunt for a few weeks at least? As much as I crave and love chinese, I have to just say "no" and keep trucking!

For dinner the other night I ate one hot dog and 9 waffle fries. The next morning, I was up .5 a pound! That sodium will get you!

The point of drinking more water when your body is holding on to water is so you flush your system and your body doesn't feel like it has to retain water, since there is a good supply coming in! At least that is what I read somewhere! It makes sense!

How are you on eating breads? Pastas? Carbs? I noticed that dropping the majority of my carbs also seems to have helped. :)

Would you mind sharing a typical day of food with us? Perhaps it could help? I was asked to do this in my thread and these ladies are awesome and finding possible issues and offer advice on how to make positive changes.

I know how you feel, and it really sucks. But please know you are not alone. As much as I thought it "wouldn't" happen, it is happening now!