Carb Counters - I am a calorie counter but this totally blows my mind.




katrinakit
01-16-2013, 01:25 PM
Have any of you seen this video?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


Fatness
01-16-2013, 01:43 PM
Great post! Very educational! I'm also a calorie counting

EagleRiverDee
01-16-2013, 02:22 PM
Oh yes. "Sugar, the bitter truth" was a game changer for me. I've built on that this year by changing my diet to a Paleo style which limits grains, processed foods, and sugars. But watching that video started it off for me.


healthyangie
01-16-2013, 03:37 PM
OMG - that was interesting!!!! It would be interesting to hear the differences in metabolism of fructose and sucralose.

bandit2
01-16-2013, 03:47 PM
Just watched the video - very interesting and scarey.
So now, what are we suppose to do/eat/omit?

elvislover324
01-16-2013, 04:07 PM
The obese 6 month old baby stats were sickening to me. :(

lunarsongbird
01-16-2013, 04:45 PM
Very interesting. I'm looking forward to watching more of the UCSF Medical Mini School.

The more I education myself, the more I realize that I can NEVER go back. I was killing myself...

katrinakit
01-16-2013, 09:31 PM
I'm really thinking of changing my dieting strategy...

PinkWaterfall
01-17-2013, 06:09 AM
The bit at the very beginning about the Japanese diet and the Atkins diet comparrison was interesting to me... I always wondered why my Japanese students managed to stay so slim when they were eating large quantities of rice for most of their meals!

katrinakit
01-17-2013, 08:51 AM
Yeah he seems to believe rice and pasta are ok. I don't know about that because if it is just about fructose then I already rarely consume it (except in fruit). It has been a long time since biochem so I will have to watch the video again sometime to check the logic. I mean, any form of sugar can get converted to glucose and then be metabolized by the body... Anyways, I don't really eat much fructose but I get PlENTY of glucose and I might try whole 30 just to see how my body responds

Stars
01-17-2013, 09:58 AM
So, the video is basically saying that the whole weight gain is fructose, not carbs or fat?




?

lunarsongbird
01-17-2013, 10:24 AM
For me- the video is basically telling me to stop eating "foodstuff" (or food like substances)/processed/packaged foods and start eating food provided from the earth. Cooking is a lost art- I was never taught how to do it, really. So it's been quite a lot of work, but I'm glad I'm making these habits now before I have children.

Stars, He is saying that about 30% of fructose is metabolized into fat. No other part of the body can use fructose, unlike glucose. It has to processed in the liver, therefore he hypothesizes that fructose really is a poison of sorts.

Misti in Seattle
01-18-2013, 07:55 AM
For me- the video is basically telling me to stop eating "foodstuff" (or food like substances)/processed/packaged foods and start eating food provided from the earth.

I agree... and interestingly, I have been saying that for years and now they are proving it! (Unfortunately, I have not been doing it for years, which is why I look like I do!! But I've been eating almost all organic, non-processed foods for about six months now and the change in me is incredible! I don't want to go back to my old ways and pray I always remember this and never fall back into my old habits!

Michael Pollan's videos and books have been very helpful to me as well.

fatmad
01-19-2013, 02:07 PM
thanks for this link, loved it. Am interested in metabolism of sucralose after this.

Quack Addict
01-19-2013, 02:51 PM
The obese 6 month old baby stats were sickening to me. :(

Hey -- some of us were BORN fat! I was over ten pounds at birth, and both my parents were of average size. :lol:

On a serious note, though, it was a good video and I plan to watch it a second time. It's amazing how invasive sugar -- in all its forms -- is in our diets. I know I'm going to be more aware of it when preparing my own meals.

fatmad
01-19-2013, 04:12 PM
Hey -- some of us were BORN fat! I was over ten pounds at birth, and both my parents were of average size. :lol:
.

I think the argument may come under the way the "healthy diet" recommended to people puts women at risk of gestational diabetes in pregnancy, increasing the chance of a large baby, and then formula feeding makes it so much worse.
Prolonged (1 year) breastfeeding is still NOT the norm in the US, when it should be. Breastmilk has no HFCS in it of course.

I was formula fed, but I hope I stopped the cycle by breastfeeding my kids and keeping them off sweets for the first several years of their lives.

Quack Addict
01-19-2013, 05:13 PM
I think the argument may come under the way the "healthy diet" recommended to people puts women at risk of gestational diabetes in pregnancy, increasing the chance of a large baby, and then formula feeding makes it so much worse.
Prolonged (1 year) breastfeeding is still NOT the norm in the US, when it should be. Breastmilk has no HFCS in it of course.

I was formula fed, but I hope I stopped the cycle by breastfeeding my kids and keeping them off sweets for the first several years of their lives.

I'm not sure what all my mother ate, but she delivered all three of her children on our due dates. (I thought that was interesting.) I do remember her telling me that the smell of chicken cooking made her sick when she was pregnant with me... but I suspect she ate during pregnancy as she ate during the rest of her life -- moderation in all things.

Oh... and she breast-fed all her children for about six months.

My mother was always a huge advocate of a healthy lifestyle -- long before it was popular. We just all have very efficient metabolisms. For example, my sister (who is in her 60's) exercises at the Y every morning and walks every evening after work. Her breakfast may be a cup of yogurt... an apple and perhaps three or four saltines at lunch... a typical single-portion meal of meat, starch, and vegetable for supper with a light dessert. Under 1,000 calories a day to maintain a slender body.

My siblings see food as nourishing their bodies. I see it as a favorite pasttime. :(

Anyway, I'm trying to deflect the passion I have for eating into learning as much as I can about what I eat and controlling it. It's going to be an interesting journey.

Wannabeskinny
02-01-2013, 11:47 AM
Yea, totally life changing.

the shiv
02-13-2013, 10:25 PM
That is amazing. I'm doing Intuitive Eating and went on a HCFS spree at the very beginning to test how all the processed foods made me feel. Awful! So it's metabolised the same way as alcohol? That explains why I felt constantly hungover when eating so much processed ****! And why those symptoms are gone now. It made me feel really fortunate that thinking cutting way down on the sugar and processed foods would be a great start to IE. I actually ended up in the low-carb section of the forum tonight, where I found this thread, because I was wondering why I'd inadvertently gone all low-carb. I can hear my hunger signal for the first time, and my body only demands carbs when I'm exercising, the rest of the time it's protein & vegetables all the way. This really does explain so much for me, and I've shared it with the IE thread as well as it may be of interest.

Thankyou! :)