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skelley331
12-28-2012, 11:47 AM
I saw a post that we needed to start a new thread but didn't see where anyone actually started it SO i thought i would for the new year! :carrot:


Keylani
12-28-2012, 12:02 PM
Thanks Skelly!! Wow, 4 pounds for you to go! Grats on your success! I'm looking forward to that day!

patzi
12-29-2012, 09:01 AM
It's tough, but I think the hardest part is the realization that this is ALWAYS going to be a struggle. It does get easier much of the time, but I was very sad when I realized that going on maintenance still meant that I was never going to be able to relax and just eat--I always have to plan ahead and/or consciously make healthy/on-plan food choices. However, if I get to continue to be healthy, look good, feel good, and have more energy, then I guess I can handle that, even if it is forever.

The above quote is by Teacher Lady on our old post. How true this all is.
The most dynamic sentence to me is: very sad when I realized that going on maintenance still meant that I was never going to be able to relax and just eat. This is a forever thing, for sure. I switch back to Green Menu many many times,go on 2-3 day shakes diet, etc. I can go out and next morning gain 2 pounds and I have made very good choices, it is what it is, and I deal with it. It is ALWAYS a struggle for me, I still journal all my food, so if I gain I look back and figure out why and go on.. BUT.. It is a way of life, a healthy way of life, and even though a struggle, I refuse to go back to gaining weight I lost so I keep on and will keep on.. If it was not for this forum, I would not make it. I do still get weighed in once a week, as that keeps me focused. Sad part for me is I never went back to my old ways, stay real focused and try to be sensible in way I eat, but still gain, but I do go on.
Patzi

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camaswa
12-30-2012, 04:10 PM
So timely, Patzi. I feel sad and sorry for myself right now. I came on to post about all the holiday sweets still in my house. I'm home by myself and going crazy. After eating a bunch- at breakfast!- I decided, screw everyone else, I'm throwing it all out. The homemade hazelnut almond bark, the flourless chocolate torte, the cranberry scones, the salted carmel squares, all of it. they will be mad when they come home, but they don't need anymore either. Last year, on program, I had the discipline to get rid of it all right way, but this year I have let it hang around too long. The others in my household seem to forget it is there but I can't. I am Constantly circling back for another nibble or bite. It's has been going on for over a week. It's now in the garbage and I'm heading out for a walk to clear my head. I should have taken control of this sooner, but at least I am doing it now.

Maintenance is not easy. And at times like this I realize I am still vulnerable. Always will be, I fear. That's why I can't afford to go into denial. I was heading there after thanksgiving, then got ahold of things, doing two weeks more or less on the Green sheet. Now I am finding myself there again. I haven't gotten on the scale since Dec. 10.

I dont have the nerve to weigh just yet but the act of throwing the sugary stuff away is my start back into reality. If anyone reading this also feels like enough is enough, I hope this encourages you that you are not alone in this struggle. And you can start again today!

skelley331
12-30-2012, 09:12 PM
Oh i am right there with you camaswa and patzi, i had to throw all the sweets out also but not until i realized i had eaten enough and and gained like 4 lbs, i managed to lose 1.5 of it but yes maintenance is hard, i actually go friday jan 4th for my official maintenance appt but was told the last week #5 and this week#6 was my official maintenance program. I didn't go weigh in this week because there was so much going on, but i'm trying so hard to get back on track using the green menu, but at night and weekends it seems so hard for me to stay focused. While i was on plan and still workign towards stabilization and maintenance i was doing so great, but i've made it thru stabilization and now on maintenace and i feel like i'm lost and like i've been thrown to the wolves, does this make since? I'm hoping after the new year it will all get better. I'm not going back to the way i ate before, i do know that if i go overboard i can do the green menu and lose the lbs!!! Thanks to all who are on this board and who listen and respond, without all of you it would be harder than i could imagine! Thank you and Happy New year!!!:hug:

patzi
12-30-2012, 10:07 PM
Camaswa..
What a dynamic statement... You said ..I should have taken control of this sooner, but at least I am doing it now. That is the key.. Get back on wagon and go from there, as today is another day..

Skelley... Hang in there.. Are you going to do maintenance with the MRC Center? I have been doing it for about 2 years if not longer. I need the center to focus and be accountable .. That is so weak, and I wish I was not like that, but as they say it is as it is. Also, if you are having a problem, make sure you journal every thing food and drink you put in your mouth. That helps.

Hard time of year for everyone, let's get back to where we were, and go on. None of us want to get back to where we were, we worked hard to get away from that, so let's give it a try, as hard as it seems for all of us at this time of year.Really rough, but we will pull through it.. Just not beat ourselves up, and go on.. Let us see how we all do New Years Even and New Years Day.
Patzi

skelley331
12-31-2012, 10:48 AM
Camaswa..
What a dynamic statement... You said ..I should have taken control of this sooner, but at least I am doing it now. That is the key.. Get back on wagon and go from there, as today is another day..

Skelley... Hang in there.. Are you going to do maintenance with the MRC Center? I have been doing it for about 2 years if not longer. I need the center to focus and be accountable .. That is so weak, and I wish I was not like that, but as they say it is as it is. Also, if you are having a problem, make sure you journal every thing food and drink you put in your mouth. That helps.

Hard time of year for everyone, let's get back to where we were, and go on. None of us want to get back to where we were, we worked hard to get away from that, so let's give it a try, as hard as it seems for all of us at this time of year.Really rough, but we will pull through it.. Just not beat ourselves up, and go on.. Let us see how we all do New Years Even and New Years Day.
Patzi


Patzi: Yes I'm going to do maintenance with the MRC center, it helps me stay in line most of the time. I go this friday the 4th for my maintenance appt, not sure what all is involved with this appt.

faerychic
12-31-2012, 12:41 PM
CAMASWA - i share your fellings. I came here to post basically what you said. Glad I checked in here today - I have not tossed out the english toffee yet so i am going to do that right now. I haven't faced the scale yet either. I keep putting it off thinking "one more day of nibbling on sweets & snacks and then I will weigh" But one day and turned into 2 or 3. Sweets are a killer for me - the more I eat the more I want. I really just need to stay away from sugar!

Thanks for everyones words of wisdom and support here. It definitely helps!

patzi
12-31-2012, 02:39 PM
Faerychic... Nice to hear from you. If I eat anything with sugar, triggers
cravings that I want more sugar, and then everything goes out of control, so I stay away from it.. But English Toffee, used to be one of my favorites. Love that ., but do as you say, throw it out, and stay accountable the best you can, as the longer you postpone, the more difficult it gets. If having a problem come here on forum and talk to us.

Well... I went with hubby to Ruby Tuesday's as we are off , and we both had a salad, had my own dressing, and had salmon cooked real well and a cup of tea. Salmon was placed on top of salad . I told them omit croutons and any bacon. The next morning I am up 2 1/2 pounds. Now, I made good choices, why this happens who knows, but it sure is frustrating. I would think the food , especially the fish, was premarinated, as I told them I wanted it grilled dry, and someone told me may times at restaurants they soak the lettuce in salt water. Also Salmon is fatty, but being on maintenance I should be able to eat this, without this type of gain. It is as it is, I guess. Today I am back on green menu, and I drink minimum of 64oz. a day. I get weighed in on Wednesday, as I did not go last week.. So hopefully it will come off..

Patzi

teacherlady79
01-01-2013, 10:05 PM
Patzi-- it likely is sodium from the restaurant food. I've noticed that almost any time you mention having eaten out in one of your posts, you also say you've gained 1-2 lbs. I usually make an extra effort to drink extra water the day of and the day after a restaurant meal to help flush out the extra sodium.

Hi ladies-- I see you are all fighting the good fight against the holiday sweets and such. I let myself indulge in the treats that I can't get throughout the year, had my husband hide the candy (only the good-quality chocolate, the rest I threw away) from our stockings from me, and I spent this afternoon cleaning all the other temptations out of my fridge. We spent Friday through today with my in-laws at their cabin...which meant lots of holiday leftovers, snacky foods, and carby meals for me to fight all weekend, so I'ml up 1-2 lbs (and I even got everything off from Christmas before we left!). So, I'm starting fresh on green menu (plus my a.m. and p.m. yogurt & chia seeds) tomorrow.

Luckily I don't go back to work until Monday, so I'm going to try to take advantage of my extra time this week to fit in as many runs/yoga sessions as possible. Especially since my birthday was today so my brother is taking me to dinner tomorrow, my brother-in-law's bday is Thursday so we're doing a family dinner out then, and the rest of my family wants to celebrate my birthday and my nephew's bday on Sunday.

Whew! Wish me luck!

patzi
01-02-2013, 12:46 PM
TeacherLady.. Happy Birthday and Happy New Year.

I weighed in today and stayed the same as two weeks ago. WHEW...

Patzi

rachels77
01-02-2013, 12:50 PM
Hey, All! Happy New Year! I've been MIA for a while but am hoping to get back into reading and posting.

Still doing okay, weight-wise. Got struck with a nasty virus and my lungs are crap, but hoping to get back into working out and eating better... I know I'll feel better when I do!

skelley331
01-02-2013, 03:25 PM
Hi Everyone and Happy New Year! I go friday for my maintenance appt can anyone tell me what they actually do? Thanks:carrot:

rachels77
01-03-2013, 02:49 PM
Hey, Skelley -

For mine, we did a summary of my weight loss, goals, and saw where I was in relation to my actual goals. We then went over a much less-structured eating plan and decided how often I would continue to weigh in...

But, that was mine...

nwcgina
01-03-2013, 04:42 PM
Hello all---
Been lurking...on a cookie detox. Man, I redeveloped some bad habits. I really can do okay with one treat of dark chocolate or frozen yogurt each day. I maintain really well and don't get cravings. But over the past few weeks I started replacing my dark chocolate with a cookie then another then another until I was at the point where after every meal, and often in between, I was looking for a cookie. So for the second time this holiday season some goodies found their way into the trash. And I've been cookie free for three days now:) Well, sweets in general, but those darn cookies. I think it is because they are good for mindless eating. Cake or pie you actually have to sit down with a fork and plate so it takes more effort, etc.

And my cookie habit came with a few pounds. Nothing 2 weeks of being sweets free and balancing my meals won't take care of. I already feel a ton better. We've spent the past few days painting our bathroom so the scale is away. I'm hoping tomorrow when I get back on I'm back to or close to my happy weight range. I can already tell in my clothes I've lost the bloat (some cookies came with wine:)).

But I'm also not going to go extreme with exercise to correct the problems I created. Exercise in excessive amounts seems to stimulate my appetite. So this morning I did 15 minutes of high intensity strength circuits. My goal is 5-6 days of 30 minutes of moderate to high intensity activity. Switching it up. This summer I'm going to do a triathlon but with the sub zero temps in the morning I"m not ready to start training for that:)

skelley331
01-03-2013, 09:36 PM
Hey, Skelley -

For mine, we did a summary of my weight loss, goals, and saw where I was in relation to my actual goals. We then went over a much less-structured eating plan and decided how often I would continue to weigh in...

But, that was mine...

Rachels77: thanks for responding I actually didn't reach my goal weight but I also didn't want to pay for ten more weeks, so once I go thru my maintenance I am hoping I can lose the other ten lbs

skelley331
01-03-2013, 09:42 PM
Hello all---
Been lurking...on a cookie detox. Man, I redeveloped some bad habits. I really can do okay with one treat of dark chocolate or frozen yogurt each day. I maintain really well and don't get cravings. But over the past few weeks I started replacing my dark chocolate with a cookie then another then another until I was at the point where after every meal, and often in between, I was looking for a cookie. So for the second time this holiday season some goodies found their way into the trash. And I've been cookie free for three days now:) Well, sweets in general, but those darn cookies. I think it is because they are good for mindless eating. Cake or pie you actually have to sit down with a fork and plate so it takes more effort, etc.

And my cookie habit came with a few pounds. Nothing 2 weeks of being sweets free and balancing my meals won't take care of. I already feel a ton better. We've spent the past few days painting our bathroom so the scale is away. I'm hoping tomorrow when I get back on I'm back to or close to my happy weight range. I can already tell in my clothes I've lost the bloat (some cookies came with wine:)).

But I'm also not going to go extreme with exercise to correct the problems I created. Exercise in excessive amounts seems to stimulate my appetite. So this morning I did 15 minutes of high intensity strength circuits. My goal is 5-6 days of 30 minutes of moderate to high intensity activity. Switching it up. This summer I'm going to do a triathlon but with the sub zero temps in the morning I"m not ready to start training for that:)


Oh gosh I'm right there with you I go tomorrow to start maintenance and for some reason at night I want ice cream then chips so tomorrow after my appt I'm getting back on plan I do not want to go back to my old ways I'm kinda scared wish me luck I've waited so long for this day:carrot:

nwcgina
01-04-2013, 02:39 PM
One thing that helps me with hunger/putting off cravings is hot tea. I'm going to make some right now...the first two weeks of getting back on track are the worst!

skelley331
01-04-2013, 10:36 PM
Well ladies I can finally say i'm a maintainer yay!!! I had my appt this morning and did really great, they ran my body comps and i have actually gained 3lbs of muscle mass, my counselor said that was awesome!! I love the maintenance food list, they have me on 1300 calories to start!! I get to have cereal and milk for breakfast, I've missed that so much!!! :carrot::carrot::carrot:

Keylani
01-05-2013, 06:47 PM
Congratulations Skelley!!! That's so awesome!!! I'm happy for you!

bigdog
01-06-2013, 08:52 PM
OMG!!! let me just say, Girl Gone Wild!!!!! Chocolate, Fudge, Cookies, Sugar, Blah, Blah, Blah What was i thinking? we went to Jekyll Island camping for Christmas and ate junk like crazy...we did have grilled mahi mahi one night but one night, i'm ashamed to say we had jalapeno cheetoes and dark chocolate brownies! i also had margaritas every day. the only healthy thing i did was eat eggs in the am, salads for lunch a few days and we rode our bikes and walked at least 4 hours each day. the cool thing about the Island is that the bike routes go completely around the island and you can ride to the beaches, marsh and their little downtown. i was even prepared w/ fresh broccoli, veggies, etc. but i guess because the brownies, cookies were there, we ate them. normally when we go camping in warmer weather, we don't have those. i did drank tons of water (ask my husband because i stopped at alot of bath houses to pee!) on our walks and bike rides.
i have not weighed since Dec. 22.and everything is tight. As soon as we got back, i threw all the cookies and junk in the trash and covered w/ coffee grounds to make sure i wouldn't dig them out. Starting a Jazzercise class tomorrow - will prob. kill me!! Going back to Green menu tomorrow for real. worked way too hard to lose this weight and will not gain it all back. Chug a lug!!! Protein drinks, water..will be wearing a path to the bathroom!!! Good luck everyone and Happy New Year!

rwquilts
01-07-2013, 07:42 PM
I went for a quick weigh-in on Saturday and am pleased to be at 132, which is 8 lbs below my original goal. I didn't gain a thing over the holidays and even had some wine, some birthday cake, and other sweets in moderation, always followed by a huge glass of water.

camaswa
01-07-2013, 07:47 PM
Bigdog, it just goes to show that crap is addicting. I wish it wasn't so but it is. Salt, sugar, and fat - preferably all at the same time- once we start its almost impossible to stop. Tell yourself IT'S OVER.

Because, guess what- it IS over. It's January! Clean slate, no beating up allowed. Go back to your skinny versions of margaritas and lean proteins and veggies. Pretty soon you will be feeling better. Just a few days of cleaning it up will help the head trip, which is half the battle. The temptations are gone now, you can do this!

skelley331
01-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Congratulations Skelley!!! That's so awesome!!! I'm happy for you!

Thank you! I'm feeling so good and doing awesome!!:carrot:

skelley331
01-07-2013, 10:01 PM
I went for a quick weigh-in on Saturday and am pleased to be at 132, which is 8 lbs below my original goal. I didn't gain a thing over the holidays and even had some wine, some birthday cake, and other sweets in moderation, always followed by a huge glass of water.

rwquilts: Congrats on your loss that's awesome!!:carrot:

patzi
01-08-2013, 04:28 PM
Hello everyone.. Had maintenance weigh in today and gained 2 pounds, no reason for it. Hopefully it will be down next weigh in..Wishing everyone a great weigh in.

Patzi

Going4Fit
01-09-2013, 03:21 PM
Hello everyone.. Had maintenance weigh in today and gained 2 pounds, no reason for it. Hopefully it will be down next weigh in..Wishing everyone a great weigh in.

Patzi

Hi Patzi - I lurk on here all the time so I can be motivated with how diligently you maintainers work to keep your weight off. I watched a clip last night from the Doctor Oz website and thought of you, since I've seen you struggle with how often you have these little weight gains in spite of making good choices. It was about how even healthy foods can be reactive to our specific body chemistries and cause weight gain. Here's the link to the first video clip:

http://www.doctoroz.com//videos/anti-diet-plan-eliminating-reactive-foods-pt-1

I bet the stabilization menu is supposed to help do this same type of thing for us, but I noticed several of the reactive foods on the list are foods we have from the very beginning on green menu. Anyway, something to look into.

bigdog
01-10-2013, 02:55 AM
You are right Camaswa. It is addictive and if I have that stuff in the house. I nibble on it all the time---- you always amaze me how you can throw the really good stuff out!!! I joined a Jazzercise class and went twice this week. It's really fun and a good workout. Planning on 3 days/ week and also walking the dogs every day
Doing pretty good food wise but need to increase water and HNSs

Been crazy busy at work and my husband just bought a restaurant!!! So helping out w that too. 2013 is looking incredible. YAY!!
Good luck everyone :)

bigdog
01-10-2013, 04:52 PM
love this website! i just put through another order...i've been using this website to order Syntrax protein powder (less than Diet Direct), vitamins and even found a comparable Menopausal formula (Enzymatic Therapy AM PM Menopause Formula™ -- 60 Tablets 1 $11.69 $11.69
Item No: ENZ 8072064 ) i've been getting at Walgreens or Walmart and it's usually $20 if not on sale. they also have Estroven which is pretty good too. found the South Beach Protein bars and most are $2.99 or less per box of 5!! i keep them in my car and that's what i'll usually have for lunch when im on the road. they range from 120 to 140 calories and keep me from the fast food! i usually pack an apple and cheese too. i don't know about you guys, but if i get too hungry then that's when im going to overeat for the next meal or be tempted to grab a huge Lindt Dark Choc. bar in Walgreens! LOL and TMI - seriously, they are addictive and i crave them. these SB protein bars arent so good (like the Diet Direct bars ) which are way too yummy!!! they are kindof chalky so it's more like a protein fix and not just dessert. im still throwing away bread on sandwiches when im out but i do need to step up on the veggies.
ok back to work but wanted to peek in :) love the Jazzercise class...did a body sculpt class last night - it was fabulous...what is motivating is seeing all the buff ladies in the class and many are older than i am!!! wow. impressive. Protein, cardio and using stretch bands (kicked my booty) and weights is the key.

skelley331
01-11-2013, 03:46 PM
Tomorrow I go weigh in after being on maintenance for one week, i'll see how it goes. I feel lost though, i have a 1300 calorie sheet that tells me how many servings to do a day and then it lists all the foods, but they told me i don't have to stick to those foods, just to watch the calories, sugar, fat, and sodium in foods. After a week i feel like i'm constantly wanting to eat all day long, my cravings are back and i'm feeling tired in the afternoons. Hoping to get some answers tomorrow at the center. :dizzy:

nwcgina
01-11-2013, 10:24 PM
skelley-hopefully you get some good answers from your center. I loved my counselor. I see your from IN...I was a call in client but my center was in Lafayette.

I'm hanging in there and sticking to counting calories. Eating about 1420 per day plus eating back what I earn during exercise. That gives me a loss. I've lost about 4 lbs since the 1st. Pretty happy with that. About 5 more until I'm back at my low weight. So by Feb for sure.

camaswa-I'm addicted to Lindt Dark chocolate (70%). I actually love the milk chocolate, but I could eat the whole bar. The dark chocolate I'm fine with 125 calories (2 squares). I'm staying away from it while I'm trying to lose 5, but then it's my favorite once a day "treat".

rwquilts
01-12-2013, 09:16 AM
Shelley, I hand noticed the cravings are back also. I think it has to do with the added carbs but will be interested to see what your center says. I just need to remind myself that water filled me up between meals for 6 months and there's no reason why it shouldn't still.

skelley331
01-12-2013, 11:29 PM
Hi ladies, well i went to my center today and talked to my counselor about feeling lost and all the cravings, and yes it's because of the carbs added back in but i was lost not having a menu to follow LOL! I'm on 1300 calories and yes we are suppose to eat at least 80% of non processed foods, fresh veggies, etc that we learned thru our journey, but i did find out that if i want to eat pizza i can, if i want ice cream i can have it, but i must stay within the 1300 calories a day and only do this on occassion which if fine by me, it's nice to know that if i do eat pizza or ice cream maybe once a week i'm not going off plan!!! Oh and by the way i maintained my weight yay!!!!! So i'm maintaining!!!! :carrot::carrot: Oh and i was told not to eat back my exercise calories!!!

struggle2maintain
01-13-2013, 03:43 PM
I lost 70 lbs. with MRC and have been on maintenance since September of 2012. All was going well until the holidays came. I ended up throwing out a lot of uneaten cookies, but I was tired of the temptation. I worked too hard to lose that weight. I gain a few lbs. and then lose them, so I guess I'm doing ok. It's just a struggle because I want to go and eat everything that I've done without for so long, but I know I'll regret it. I feel like I'm getting stuck in a rut with my food choices, so I've joined this site to get some good recipe ideas and support from others. Good luck to others that are on the MRC program and starting maintenance.

patzi
01-13-2013, 04:02 PM
I lost 70 lbs. with MRC and have been on maintenance since September of 2012. All was going well until the holidays came. I ended up throwing out a lot of uneaten cookies, but I was tired of the temptation. I worked too hard to lose that weight. I gain a few lbs. and then lose them, so I guess I'm doing ok. It's just a struggle because I want to go and eat everything that I've done without for so long, but I know I'll regret it. I feel like I'm getting stuck in a rut with my food choices, so I've joined this site to get some good recipe ideas and support from others. Good luck to others that are on the MRC program and starting maintenance.

Hi...
I know where you are coming from as I am up and down 2 it seems.. It is a struggle,but you have done a fantastic job on the weight loss.That is alot of pounds and be proud of yourself.. Just hang in there, and don't keep the temptation around. There are things I cannot keep in house. I try to have something I have had in past once a month, but since I am up and down, stopped it. I did that when I was maintaining without a gain. One month I had a candy bar, and do you believe it did not even taste goodl. It just drove me to crave all the rest of the day,so never did it again. Peanut butter,I tried,homemade oatmeal cookies(1) .. But now I just try to make desserts that are within the program, and it seems to work. Hang in there, you have done great and any temptations, throw them out..

Patzi

patzi
01-13-2013, 04:06 PM
Hi ladies, well i went to my center today and talked to my counselor about feeling lost and all the cravings, and yes it's because of the carbs added back in but i was lost not having a menu to follow LOL! I'm on 1300 calories and yes we are suppose to eat at least 80% of non processed foods, fresh veggies, etc that we learned thru our journey, but i did find out that if i want to eat pizza i can, if i want ice cream i can have it, but i must stay within the 1300 calories a day and only do this on occassion which if fine by me, it's nice to know that if i do eat pizza or ice cream maybe once a week i'm not going off plan!!! Oh and by the way i maintained my weight yay!!!!! So i'm maintaining!!!! :carrot::carrot: Oh and i was told not to eat back my exercise calories!!!

Skelly, way to go.. I am so proud of you.. Yes, we can have items we have had before, just monitor them. I have some baked oatmeal every day. If I have other carbs similar,I do not eat it. Carbs are my ruination, so need to be careful, but one can have goodies , but in moderation. That is the key. If you see you gain when you have them, just go back on green menu, or your last menu and take the pounds off and go on. It is part of the process. Good for you... Maintaining is the key....
Patzi

teacherlady79
01-13-2013, 11:43 PM
Hi ladies, well i went to my center today and talked to my counselor about feeling lost and all the cravings, and yes it's because of the carbs added back in but i was lost not having a menu to follow LOL! I'm on 1300 calories and yes we are suppose to eat at least 80% of non processed foods, fresh veggies, etc that we learned thru our journey, but i did find out that if i want to eat pizza i can, if i want ice cream i can have it, but i must stay within the 1300 calories a day and only do this on occassion which if fine by me, it's nice to know that if i do eat pizza or ice cream maybe once a week i'm not going off plan!!! Oh and by the way i maintained my weight yay!!!!! So i'm maintaining!!!! :carrot::carrot: Oh and i was told not to eat back my exercise calories!!!

I was completely overwhelmed by the maintenance menu, too, so I decided to pretty much just eat based on my stabilization menu, with some additions here and there (I did increase my protein and veggie serving each by 1 oz for lunch and dinner, too).

I also use livestrong.com (though I"ve heard myfitnesspal.com is better--I just haven't switched because I've had my data on livestrong for 2 years now and I don't want to start over) to track my food/calories each day. It also shows me a pie chart that breaks down the ratio of carbs/protein/fats I'm eating each day, which helps me make sure I don't use too many of my daily calories on carbs as opposed to protein.

I guess we're kind of like any other recovering addicts--we'll always in recovery (i.e., we'll always be eating "on plan"), and that's considered successful. Like I said, I pretty much eat "on plan" with some extras or indulgences, and I've done okay with maintaining so far.

You can do it! It's overwhelming at first, but you'll find your balance and figure out what works best for you to maintain.

nwcgina
01-14-2013, 10:01 AM
I have to eat back my exercise calories or I become overly hungry and crabby:) If I'm eating at maintenance level (which is 1700-1900 for me)I don't, but when I'm in losing mode which is 1400 for me, I have to eat them back. Especially after a run or high intensity exercise. Each person is different in that regard.

nwcgina
01-14-2013, 10:04 AM
A note on that...most people overestimate the number of calories actually burned in a session, so people easily eat back their calories and then some. I have a pretty good background in exercise and calories so I do a pretty good job of monitoring it. Do not go by what machines in the gym say, they often overestimate calories burned.

skelley331
01-14-2013, 11:52 AM
Hi ladies,

Good points to remember, thank you! I don't exercise alot and never did, i walk a mile 4 times a week then on weekends i'm so busy cleaning or running i use that as my exercise.

Teacherlady: you are right my counselor told me that the week six stabilization menu was pretty much the maintenance and to use that and do adds moderately on other items. So far it has really simplified things for me!! :carrot::carrot: Just so happy to be here as a maintainer!!!

cmarty
01-14-2013, 10:01 PM
Skelley,
Congrats on maintaining! Nice to hear f rom you again. I got lost for awhile..but I'm back on track again! Hope to join you all real soon!

skelley331
01-15-2013, 11:42 AM
Skelley,
Congrats on maintaining! Nice to hear f rom you again. I got lost for awhile..but I'm back on track again! Hope to join you all real soon!

You are doing great, wow goal 128, pretty awesome, i'm 5'7 and i weighed 117 once and i looked like death warmed over but at 150 i'm happy!! You'll get there !!!:carrot:

skelley331
01-16-2013, 09:41 PM
Went to weigh in today after being on maintenance for a week and a half and was down 1/2 lb!! YAY!!!

lovetofishandrun
01-17-2013, 10:04 PM
Struggling for last couple of weeks. Stay on plan for 2-3 days then off. Training for 10k in March and starting exercise classes Monday. Truly enjoy reading everyone's journey. Good luck to all

skelley331
01-18-2013, 12:35 PM
Struggling for last couple of weeks. Stay on plan for 2-3 days then off. Training for 10k in March and starting exercise classes Monday. Truly enjoy reading everyone's journey. Good luck to all

lovetofishandrun: Stay strong you can do it, i run into the same problem, some days are really good then others i'm like hungry for everything, my problems are at night but once the weather turns warm it should help, i love to be outside!!! :carrot:

skelley331
01-19-2013, 03:19 PM
Weighed in this morning an YAY I maintained!! :carrot::carrot:

Keylani
01-20-2013, 04:23 PM
Weighed in this morning an YAY I maintained!! :carrot::carrot:

That's awesome Skelley!! Congratulations!!

skelley331
01-21-2013, 10:33 PM
Yuk i have caught the flu and it's no fun, all i have had today is applesauce , crackers and chicken noodle soup (1/2 can) i'm on tamiflu and i sure hope it helps! This is no fun!

Keylani
01-22-2013, 09:50 AM
Get well soon Skelley!!!

nwcgina
01-22-2013, 11:03 AM
lovestofishandrun-I'm doing the same thing. I'll do good for about 4 days (Monday-Thurs) and see a loss then get a little too loose Friday-Sunday and gain back my loss. So all in all I'm maintaining, but I have about 5 lbs to get back to a more "safe" weight for me. I haven't started specifically training for it yet, but I plan on doing a tri this summer so want to get the 5# off before I start training for it as doing that much training makes me ravenous and it's hard to actually lose then. Maintaining is no problem. For now it's just running 2 days a week, strength training 2 days a week, and another 1-2 days of just other activity...usually a video since it's blasted cold out.

lovetofishandrun
01-22-2013, 08:17 PM
Thanks skelly331 and nwcgina:hug:. Had been avoiding the center like the flu but I went today and weighed. I knew I was holding water - just felt puffy and I was. I have gained 4 lbs since going on maintenance in September:eek: I had every intention of starting group exercise classes this week but have broken out in rash and just about to go crazy with the itching. I have reviewed what I have eaten and what lotions I have used - same, same:dunno:. Anyway, heading to North LA (that's Louisiana!) for a couple days to spend some time with my mom - she turned 83 today. Good luck to all on your journey.

faerychic
01-23-2013, 12:49 PM
I too have been avoiding the center. I am up past my comfort zone on my home scale - just don't want to face it at the center I guess. I don't want them to hound me to buy some weight loss weeks. Everyday I say to myself this is a new day - NO SUGAR TODAY but by the evening I am scrounging through the cabinets for something sweet! I know I need to get control of this before it gets too out of control - just need to find my motivation!

skelley331
01-23-2013, 01:45 PM
Well i'm back to work today thank god, never thought i would be so happy to be able to go back, lol! Turns out i had the stomach flu they say, abdominal cramps and diarrhea (i know probably tmi) but it only lasted 2 1/2 days. But i did lose 3.4 lbs in two days, not a fun way to lose but i'll take it. I've been off plan now for three days, but still not hungry for much, still doing soup and toast, anything not to upset my belly!!! Feeling pretty good today!!! I hope you all don't get it because it's nasty!!! I wanted to die!! :?:

skelley331
01-23-2013, 01:50 PM
I too have been avoiding the center. I am up past my comfort zone on my home scale - just don't want to face it at the center I guess. I don't want them to hound me to buy some weight loss weeks. Everyday I say to myself this is a new day - NO SUGAR TODAY but by the evening I am scrounging through the cabinets for something sweet! I know I need to get control of this before it gets too out of control - just need to find my motivation!

faerychic: I'm sorry to hear that your center reacts that way, my counselor is very understanding and if i'm up a few lbs she just encourages me to do better next time, now we do have a 6lb rule, i have to be with in 6lbs of my goal weight, if i go over then they suggest more weight loss weeks but that's only if you want to stay on the maintenance program. But if i've gained say like 3lbs then the next two days i get it back off, i'm good thru the week but weekends are where i tend to eat a little special. But that's what maintenance is all about, being able to splurge a little but have the confidence to know that you'll take the lbs back off.!!! You'll find the courage, i always look at my old picture of when i was overweight, i carry one around with me just as a reminder i don't want to look like that again EVER!!! :hug:

cmarty
01-24-2013, 05:48 PM
Skelley,

Glad you are better! That is a great idea to carry an old picture of yourself..I think I 'll do that! Good job on maintaining!

Tamikl
01-25-2013, 07:05 PM
Hello, ladies:)

It has been a little while, but I am still on the Maintenance bandwagon!! I started Maintenance in February of 2012, and as I now approach a year, I am working on losing what I have managed to gain. For the first 6 months of Maintenance I did great..then we hit summertime, holidays, vacations, etc..etc..and so the story goes. I am not all out of whack but up roughly 7 lbs, and decided I needed to get some control over this. So, beginning of this month, I started the 30-day program and am having much success with it. My hope is that it will get me down even lower than when I started Maintenance...which would be closer to my goal weight. Can't discuss in any detail this particular plan on this forum,...so will let it go at that:)

While in my weightloss journey right now, I am reading, reading, reading...any books that can assist with the emotional element of this journey. It is a HUGE one for me. Believe it or not, I have learned that it is way easier to lose than to maintain....except once on Maintenance, it is very hard to get structured again, so this time I need to have the right mind-set in place.

When I got placed on Maintenance, the lack of structure provided was overwhelming for me....that is probably an understatement. I NEED structure, and that is the biggest goal I have once my weight is down again. I don't plan on relying solely on MRC for that this time, either. We are all different and while some aren't challenged by the freedom, some are...like me. Anyway, don't know if anyone relates, but that is where I am at!

I will not ever give up...have lost too much and invested so much time to this program for myself. I have decided I am worth the fight, and I will win..."one day at a time."

Hang in there ladies! I will be of support in any way that I can....

Tami

Going4Fit
01-26-2013, 01:38 AM
...While in my weightloss journey right now, I am reading, reading, reading...any books that can assist with the emotional element of this journey. It is a HUGE one for me. Believe it or not, I have learned that it is way easier to lose than to maintain....except once on Maintenance, it is very hard to get structured again, so this time I need to have the right mind-set in place.

When I got placed on Maintenance, the lack of structure provided was overwhelming for me....that is probably an understatement. I NEED structure, and that is the biggest goal I have once my weight is down again. I don't plan on relying solely on MRC for that this time, either. We are all different and while some aren't challenged by the freedom, some are...like me. Anyway, don't know if anyone relates, but that is where I am at!...

Hi Tami - I am in week two of stabilization so will be joining you maintainers in just a couple of weeks (stabilization is now just four weeks).

I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate this post of yours! I went through a phase of anxiety at the idea of being on my own in maintenance. Yes I have a year of weigh-in support at the center, but I didn't want to lose the structure I had gained by being in the dieting zone. So I think I'm on the same page as you. I would love it if you would share some of the reading you've been doing. I've been on the lookout for successful maintainers and their stories for encouragement and inspiration.

BTW, I complained a lot at my weigh-ins about not being ready to stop the green menu and be on my own. One of the counselors finally told me if I like structure then maintenance can be structured - I don't have to eat "in the wild". She said if I like the green menu, then keep using it! It's my life and I can eat any way I choose. (Just increase a portion or two or add the right amount of snacks between meals to get to my calorie level). Oh how I needed to hear that.

I'll be honest, right now I feel like a ticking time bomb - just ticking off the weeks on stabilization until I can eat whatever I want. I know I can't let myself do that. I know it.

bigdog
01-26-2013, 06:31 PM
has anyone tried the Syntrax Matrix brand of Protein powder? i usually get the Syntrax Nectar which i love and just saw that the Matrix is cheaper. at Vitacost website.. Matrix is $24 for 2 lbs and Nectar is $34. looks like same calories, no aspartame and 23 G. protein. the only difference i see is that the Nectar is Lactose free which is why i really like it and the Vanilla Bean Torte is awesome- esp. w/ frozen strawberries in the blender.
just ordered the Matrix Cookies n Creme and hoping it won't kill my stomach. alot of the other protein shakes bother me.

Happy Saturday!!

P.S. New job!!! Event and Marketing Director for a Property Management Company - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! first time i've not been in sales for 17 years and am actually in an office!! YAY!!!! ive already set up my first event, hired the DJ, clowns, bouncee houses, banners ordered, - OMG - im so slammed but am so over the top happy not having to hit the streets and sell ads. 2013 is rocking already. :)

bigdog
01-26-2013, 06:46 PM
Camaswa!!! Calling you out, girl! i know you are reading these posts! :) What's up? how are you? Happy New Year!!!

good to see everyone on here and i need to catch up on the posts for some motivation and good ideas. New Job, my DH bought a restaurant! CRAZY but crazy good! haven't weighed and avoiding scales. going back to Green menu and will weigh in 2 weeks, but cannot do that now or i will get really sad!
have signed up for exercise classes and go 3 days/ week and even started doing exercise videos at home. still walking the pups in the am. eat my veggies and have cut way down on carbs but not getting in the protein shakes like i was before and need to up the water intake. even w/ the exercise which makes me feel great but without following the plan, ive gained... i know this because my pants are shorter! (funny how that happens) not too upset because i know exactly how to get right back to my "thin" self and will get there.

camaswa
01-26-2013, 11:21 PM
Haha! Hello! Congrats on your new job- that is excellent and sounds like you will be GREAT at it. And wow regarding the DH! This is really exciting time for both of you.

I have started a new online program called Lean Eating from a company called Precision Nutrition. (google it!) I'm only 3 weeks into it but you have to update whether you did the assignment and the workout everyday, and there are a ton of message boards, so that's taking a lot of my online time.

I continue to be up and down about six pounds, before Christmas I was weighing every day and had knocked off almost all, then there was the holiday during which I stuck my head in the sand. Didn't weigh for 3 weeks and of course shot back up....plus I somehow managed to hurt my back, so I have been feeling quite grumpy.

Anyway the new program starts with exercise only - people are posting like crazy asking what to eat. The response is always, just do what we suggest every day. It claims to be about forming habits, not dieting. To that end, it makes sense that they start with exercise. So for the record, I Camaswa, have worked out 6 days per week for the past 3 weeks.

I have no ties to the MRC center at all now, but i did want another challenge and more support getting fitter and leaner. I will still visit 3fc, if only this thread. I love everyone here. And gosh, I guess Jen is not coming back, darn it.

Keep at it everyone!

camaswa
01-27-2013, 12:06 PM
Tamikl, good to hear from you. The food part of maintenance is just the beginning, I think. Most of the keys to long term success are mental. So good for you for the soul-searching you are doing through reading, etc. that 30-day unmentionable will give you results, I'm sure. Wishing you the best.

bigdog
01-27-2013, 10:34 PM
Camaswa. Sounds like a great plan :). I love my exercise classes. Jazzercise! Any program that encourages exercise is all good. To me working out gets you in tune with your body and kind of hard to eat crap when you are working out :)

Let me know how it goes!

Tamikl
01-30-2013, 06:51 PM
Hi Tami - I am in week two of stabilization so will be joining you maintainers in just a couple of weeks (stabilization is now just four weeks).

I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate this post of yours! I went through a phase of anxiety at the idea of being on my own in maintenance. Yes I have a year of weigh-in support at the center, but I didn't want to lose the structure I had gained by being in the dieting zone. So I think I'm on the same page as you. I would love it if you would share some of the reading you've been doing. I've been on the lookout for successful maintainers and their stories for encouragement and inspiration.

BTW, I complained a lot at my weigh-ins about not being ready to stop the green menu and be on my own. One of the counselors finally told me if I like structure then maintenance can be structured - I don't have to eat "in the wild". She said if I like the green menu, then keep using it! It's my life and I can eat any way I choose. (Just increase a portion or two or add the right amount of snacks between meals to get to my calorie level). Oh how I needed to hear that.

I'll be honest, right now I feel like a ticking time bomb - just ticking off the weeks on stabilization until I can eat whatever I want. I know I can't let myself do that. I know it.

Hi there:) Yes, I certainly can relate to you, too! For your sake, I would most definitely encourage you to do Green and tweek it for Mainenance. I do believe that is the direction I will be going also. Structure isn't a bad thing...especially when it feels overwhelming to be bombarded all of a sudden with food freedom! Obviously it wasn't handled real well in the first place which is what brought me to MRC...lol

Right now I am reading Dr. Phils 7 keys to Weighloss freedom. I read books that come also from a spiritual perspective as well since I believe my success lies in the hands of my Lord so long as I do my part. This journey is more than 95% mental for me, so any material that I can get my hands on at the moment I am open to.

Don't be afraid of Maintenance, just be alert to the freedoms it does bring and be willing to discipline yourself enough to refrain from returning to old habits. I know how to give advice...just don't know how to take my own!!

I will be in touch...Great job!!!

Tamikl
01-30-2013, 06:54 PM
Tamikl, good to hear from you. The food part of maintenance is just the beginning, I think. Most of the keys to long term success are mental. So good for you for the soul-searching you are doing through reading, etc. that 30-day unmentionable will give you results, I'm sure. Wishing you the best.

So far so good! 2.5 weeks in and 10lbs down/18.5 inches lost!:carrot::carrot::carrot:

nwcgina
01-30-2013, 09:53 PM
tami-I think we've talked about "Made to Crave" in the past...but Dr. Phil's book (even though I'm not a Dr. Phil fan) is excellent, especially when it comes to the behavior modification side of things. I should reglance through that.

I am feeling great. I put on about 5 lbs over the holidays. My first goal was to stop the gain (check) and now this week I got serious with creating a plan of my own (based on the metabalance plan I like, tweaked for my schedule and not using the protein drinks or bars). I'm only going to try to weigh 2x a week so the daily fluctuations don't get to me. If I stick to it, I know it will work. I'm working out about 4 days a week...mainly for enjoyment and my mental health. Calorie burn is secondary and gives me just enough wiggle room.

Going4Fit
01-31-2013, 03:24 PM
Hi there:) Yes, I certainly can relate to you, too! For your sake, I would most definitely encourage you to do Green and tweek it for Mainenance. I do believe that is the direction I will be going also. Structure isn't a bad thing...especially when it feels overwhelming to be bombarded all of a sudden with food freedom! Obviously it wasn't handled real well in the first place which is what brought me to MRC...lol

Right now I am reading Dr. Phil's 7 keys to Weight loss freedom. I read books that come also from a spiritual perspective as well since I believe my success lies in the hands of my Lord so long as I do my part. This journey is more than 95% mental for me, so any material that I can get my hands on at the moment I am open to.

Don't be afraid of Maintenance, just be alert to the freedoms it does bring and be willing to discipline yourself enough to refrain from returning to old habits. I know how to give advice...just don't know how to take my own!!

I will be in touch...Great job!!!

Tamikl, thanks so much for your response! Glad to have found you on here. I got a laugh out of your comment that food freedom wasn't handled real well in the first place. Yes! Exactly! I'm the first to admit to anybody that I consider myself a recovering food addict. Not just an emotional over-eater, or someone whose weight crept up on me over the years/pregnancies/whatever. A real addict. I went through several pride/shame cycles trying to manage the addiction on my own (looks like yo-yo dieting) and finally spiraled out of control this past year with my brother-in-law moving in so my husband and he could start their own business. I was left as a single mom, not to mention cooking and cleaning for an additional adult who hasn't been the most pleasant of house-guests, and I began indulging in my over-eating habit big time to handle the stress.

I was plagued by the real guilt I felt for turning to food instead of to God. Every Sunday I'd sit in church and feel so convicted, and yet I'd come right home and be sneaking junk food I'd hidden in cupboards or my closet or finding excuses to go out on my own so I could run through a drive-thru. At night I'd lie in bed and feel so ashamed and make all these promises to myself about starting a better diet in the morning. But as an addict I just couldn't stop.

The hard part about being a recovering food addict versus other addictions that are out there, is I still have to eat in order to live. No one would ever offer a recovering alcoholic a drink, or expect them to have just one and be okay. But everywhere I go I'm offered food. I need to remain in control of what I eat and I will always need to be. I'm all too aware of what happens when I'm out there on my own. I couldn't even handle the stabilization celebration without overeating! They had samples of all the high nutrition meal replacement bars, which are all yummy candy bar type things. I kept returning to that table for more and more, and then the addiction really showed itself when I asked the lady cleaning up at the end if I could take the leftovers home for my kids. I knew I was going to eat them if I had them and sure enough I polished them off on the short car ride home. That's after six months in control on program. So I know I still can't handle "grazing" without returning to my old ways.

lovetofishandrun
01-31-2013, 11:35 PM
Tamikl, thanks so much for your response! Glad to have found you on here. I got a laugh out of your comment that food freedom wasn't handled real well in the first place. Yes! Exactly! I'm the first to admit to anybody that I consider myself a recovering food addict. Not just an emotional over-eater, or someone whose weight crept up on me over the years/pregnancies/whatever. A real addict. I went through several pride/shame cycles trying to manage the addiction on my own (looks like yo-yo dieting) and finally spiraled out of control this past year with my brother-in-law moving in so my husband and he could start their own business. I was left as a single mom, not to mention cooking and cleaning for an additional adult who hasn't been the most pleasant of house-guests, and I began indulging in my over-eating habit big time to handle the stress.

I was plagued by the real guilt I felt for turning to food instead of to God. Every Sunday I'd sit in church and feel so convicted, and yet I'd come right home and be sneaking junk food I'd hidden in cupboards or my closet or finding excuses to go out on my own so I could run through a drive-thru. At night I'd lie in bed and feel so ashamed and make all these promises to myself about starting a better diet in the morning. But as an addict I just couldn't stop.

The hard part about being a recovering food addict versus other addictions that are out there, is I still have to eat in order to live. No one would ever offer a recovering alcoholic a drink, or expect them to have just one and be okay. But everywhere I go I'm offered food. I need to remain in control of what I eat and I will always need to be. I'm all too aware of what happens when I'm out there on my own. I couldn't even handle the stabilization celebration without overeating! They had samples of all the high nutrition meal replacement bars, which are all yummy candy bar type things. I kept returning to that table for more and more, and then the addiction really showed itself when I asked the lady cleaning up at the end if I could take the leftovers home for my kids. I knew I was going to eat them if I had them and sure enough I polished them off on the short car ride home. That's after six months in control on program. So I know I still can't handle "grazing" without returning to my old ways.

Thank you :hug: Your words hit home with me and I would imagine everyone that reads this thread. It is difficult admitting you have an addiction - whether it be food, alcohol, shopping, drugs.... Again thank you for your powerful statement.

I have tried to right my course and since last week, according to my scale, down 4 and back to stabilization weight. Hope everyone has a great end of the week and weekend.

nwcgina
02-01-2013, 12:00 AM
At first I was thinking "I'm not a food addict..." which is probably a sure sign from someone who has been overweight their whole life that they are in fact a food addict. I say I have issues. I've identified them. I work through them. But they are still there. At times much better. Other times not. I still have a problem with thinking about food with every situation. Like this weekend trying to plan a date for DH's birthday (his bday is valentine's day, but will be out of town that week) and all I can think is "where can we get the best food that I can hog out on?" and he was thinking about the activity...he wants to go to a rock climbing wall. He has zero issues with food. I have a bunch. Happy? Eat. Sad? Definitely eat. Disappointed...ugh. And I know not everyone shares the same faith, but isn't it exactly right that for someone with a food addiction that the church (and I'm assuming other places of faith as well) is a place where our addiction is fed...literally. Potlucks. Food at any get together. Okay, I'm rambling now:)

faerychic
02-01-2013, 01:16 PM
Food additct here.......I have said that for years. I can relate to what you all are saying - my life has always revolved as far back as I can remember. I know it and I have not been able to change it. Still to this day I think about food constantly - just need to make better choices than I have been lately. :(

camaswa
02-01-2013, 08:28 PM
Hi all- I wanted to update you on the new online program I'm doing called Lean Eating. Every two weeks there is a new habit to focus on building and this one is eating slowly and without multitasking. Just focus on what you are eating. It's so difficult! You have probably heard this advice before, I know I had, but I never really tried to do it. Today I set a timer and tried to slow my lunch to 20 minutes without going online or skimming a magazine and by about 13 minutes I was FULL. So I put the rest away and I will probably eat it later, if I'm hungry. But now It is already 4:30, so maybe I will just wait for dinner. Very shocking! Try it.

Going4Fit
02-02-2013, 03:10 PM
Ladies thank you so much for your support and kind words. Can be hard to put myself "out there". Usually no one takes me seriously when I say "addict". It's a term that's overused for sure (think joking about being a "choc-o-holic" for instance).

Short version of realizing I am an actual addict and not just an emotional overeater: I was given several books to read to help me understand a family members sexual addiction (so that I could not become co-dependent or an enabler of their addiction). I recognized very quickly while reading through the thought and behavior processes described, that if I substituted the word "sex" with "food", those books were describing me.

patzi
02-02-2013, 09:32 PM
Hi..
Had maintenance weigh in Tuesday and lost 1 1/2 pounds. Shy 1/2 of the 2 I had gained.

I am glad someone brought up the subject of addict. What a great forum we have.

Wishing you all a great weekend.

Patzi

Tamikl
02-03-2013, 05:43 PM
Hi ladies...wow, I sure didn't consider the reality that I may very well be addicted to food. I am well aware that my control when around certain items is absent...but overall, I think I need to explore this possibility.

I quit smoking 3 years ago after having smoked for 21 years, and while clearly that was an addiction for me, I sure haven't connected food as being even remotely in the same ball park...but certainly could be on a different level.

I went to 2 different pizza birthday parties this past week, and my first party I was in complete control...no feelings of deprivation or anything. Today's party..felt very tempted and sorry for myself. It was ridiculous. I did not cave in (particulary because I don't want to mess up this 30 day plan I am currently on) but without that plan, one could be sure I would have indulged. I am so tired of feeling like I "white-knuckle" this process so much. I feel like it sets me right up for a full blown binge. Once can only take so much when relying on their "willpower," which is why I am learning that it isn't willpower we should rely on ever...rather, ahead of time we make a decision as to how we want to live our life when it concerns food, and follow through with this commitment we make to ourselves. I shouldn't feel "deprived" if I am choosing to refrain from having things...by definition, deprivation is from things being taken away from you...and since we all have the ultimate control over our diets, we are not deprived. I hope this makes sense. Much of the mental aspect is so deep!! lol

Well, appreciate being able to vent to others who may relate. I just want to someday see myself and my efforts as "good enough" rather than always being so hard on myself for being human.

Have a great week ladies!

camaswa
02-05-2013, 12:05 AM
tamikl, I saw your post on that other thread and my heart is going out to you for your struggles. First, I want to say that I don't think it is unusal at all to bounce back 7 pounds or so from a 50 pound loss. I know it make you feel like you are on the verge of gaining it all back - I have felt that way too after gaining 5-6, but I really don't think it's true. I do know how crazy I feel mentally when I am white-knuckling it. Is terrible.

I don't know what exactly the majic plan entails, but if it is unmentionable on this board, I have a good guess. You talked about being so hungry, I am hoping you haven't lowered your metabolism by eating so few calories. do you have access to a professional nutritionist of any kind? one or two visits might be money better spent than more "majic." I am hoping some kind of balance for you. After all you have accomplished, you deserve to feel better about things.

I don't know if you exercise much, but if not, that might help too. Just getting out and moving can take the focus off the food. Xoxoxo

patzi
02-05-2013, 08:09 PM
I am allergic to most milk products, not all, but I am allergic to any form of evaporated milk...

Any siggestions for a substitute? I went online and came out with nothing.

I want to try this chocolate truffle type recipe and if it comes out well, will share recipe.

So glad that everyone on here is communicating on maintenance. It is one heck of a challenge, and so much easier to go thru to hear others and their comments...

Thanks...
Patzi

MrsRiker
02-05-2013, 10:19 PM
I am allergic to most milk products, not all, but I am allergic to any form of evaporated milk...

Any siggestions for a substitute? I went online and came out with nothing.

Thanks...
Patzi

You can simulate evaporated milk using dairy free powdered milk alternatives (soy milk powders, etc). Use approximately double-or a smidge more-the powder than the can says for regular reconstitution. You want it stronger (more concentrated) to mimic the evaporation process.

teacherlady79
02-05-2013, 11:05 PM
I am allergic to most milk products, not all, but I am allergic to any form of evaporated milk...

Any siggestions for a substitute? I went online and came out with nothing.

I want to try this chocolate truffle type recipe and if it comes out well, will share recipe.

So glad that everyone on here is communicating on maintenance. It is one heck of a challenge, and so much easier to go thru to hear others and their comments...

Thanks...
Patzi

I am no help, but I really hope you do post that recipe! :p

Tamikl
02-05-2013, 11:57 PM
tamikl, I saw your post on that other thread and my heart is going out to you for your struggles. First, I want to say that I don't think it is unusal at all to bounce back 7 pounds or so from a 50 pound loss. I know it make you feel like you are on the verge of gaining it all back - I have felt that way too after gaining 5-6, but I really don't think it's true. I do know how crazy I feel mentally when I am white-knuckling it. Is terrible.

I don't know what exactly the majic plan entails, but if it is unmentionable on this board, I have a good guess. You talked about being so hungry, I am hoping you haven't lowered your metabolism by eating so few calories. do you have access to a professional nutritionist of any kind? one or two visits might be money better spent than more "majic." I am hoping some kind of balance for you. After all you have accomplished, you deserve to feel better about things.

I don't know if you exercise much, but if not, that might help too. Just getting out and moving can take the focus off the food. Xoxoxo

Wow...thank you so much for your support:). I have come a long way and I am proud of that accomplishment for sure. But I have definitely concluded there are other more healthy ways to lose weight!!! Thanks again...xoxo

nwcgina
02-05-2013, 11:57 PM
I don't have any words of wisdom either, Patzi. I'm awful at figuring out substitutions...but I'll ask a friend who eats the paleo diet.

I'm on day 2 of going back to the green plan. It's like a switch flipped and I'm back in "the zone" of focus. I blogged about it today. I'm going to do the green plan for two weeks just to get truly back on track, then metabalance for 2 weeks, then I should be back in a good maintenance mode. I just needed to kick the last few bad habits I was maintaining from holidays. I really do feel good. I don't have energy for exercise beyond some light yoga, but I'm okay with that for 2 weeks. My mind and body probably needed a break from it anyhow. I can't wait for it to get nice and do yardwork and walk everywhere:)

teacherlady-just checked in at your blog. A subway salad is my go-to fastfood eat. I do a spinach salad with sweet onion chicken, no cheese, and about any veggie they can put out there except lettuce & hot peppers. Throw a little more sweet onion sauce on there...bliss. It has been so helpful to have a yummy salad in mind especially when we travel since you can find a subway almost anywhere (culvers is my other favorite salad place, panera as well).

Going4Fit
02-06-2013, 01:10 PM
I am so tired of feeling like I "white-knuckle" this process so much. I feel like it sets me right up for a full blown binge. Once can only take so much when relying on their "willpower," which is why I am learning that it isn't willpower we should rely on ever...rather, ahead of time we make a decision as to how we want to live our life when it concerns food, and follow through with this commitment we make to ourselves. I shouldn't feel "deprived" if I am choosing to refrain from having things...by definition, deprivation is from things being taken away from you...and since we all have the ultimate control over our diets, we are not deprived. I hope this makes sense. Much of the mental aspect is so deep!!

:hug: This is rough. I appreciate you coming on here and venting - you speak to many of my same feelings and it's nice to know someone can relate.

I have a friend who I've known for years who is always "trying" to lose weight. In spite of how much she posts on facebook about going to the gym or enjoying a healthy meal, I've never seen her look one bit different in all the years I've known her. She's always talking about how many times she's lost 5 lbs and then gained it back. She recently told me she always gives in because she decides she'd rather be fat and happy then thin and bitter.

That was discouraging to hear. Yes, when I'm white knuckling it and feeling deprived, I do feel bitter. But is she really happy being fat? Why is she always trying to lose then? I know eating food at the moment makes me happy, but the shame/regret/remorse afterwards certainly negates any positive aspects of overindulgence. And being fat is awful. I don't care what anyone else says. For me it was awful.

Anyway, I guess I'd really like to believe that it gets easier. I've trained my brain to seek food for so many things, and I've had 35 years to develop those neurological pathways. It's going to take time to create new habits and thought processes that I can rely on without having to white knuckle it. And I'm committed to the idea that it may never be fully overcome. But I can put patterns into place that I can rely on so I can make healthy choices.

About your current 30 day plan: I'm sorry you're struggling so much with it. I don't see any harm in having tried something new, but if you've learned that it just doesn't work for you without creating too many negative feelings, then I think you should change it up a bit. When I'm being honest, I can say I was truly fulfilled by my green menu. Maybe you want to stick out the 30 day commitment - that's fine too so long as you can make a choice to be positive about it and focus on your reason for doing it in the first place, and not just be miserable. The mental aspect of weight-loss is indeed a huge part of all this. (Not trying to lecture, just lend support). Hang in there!

patzi
02-06-2013, 07:48 PM
OK Teacherlady.. Here goes the recipe. Friend is on Dukan Diet,so came from there.
Chocolate Mint Truffles


PX SHOULD BE HERE, BUT IT WOULD NOT SCAN..



Preparation time : 45 min , Cooking time :5 min , Cooling time :12 h , Resting time :30 min , For 6 people Cruise phase Pure proteins




Ingredients:



2 tablespoons water, divided
1 tablespoon of unsweetened cocoa powder, such as Dukan Diet Organic Cocoa Powder
¼ cup non-fat evaporated milk
2 containers (6 oz.) non-fat plain yogurt
3 tablespoons Splenda granulated sweetener
4 sprigs of mint
1 teaspoon unflavored gelatin
3 tablespoons oat bran, such as Dukan Diet Organic Oat Bran



Preparation:



1. Wash the sprigs of mint, remove the leaves and chop them.
2. Put the evaporated milk, yogurt, and mint in a saucepan and slowly bring to a boil, stirring. Cover and leave to infuse for 20 minutes, then remove the mint.
3. Mix the powdered chocolate and splenda with 1 tablespoon of the water until smooth. Work it into the infused mixture.
4. Place the other tablespoon of water in a microwave-safe bowl. Sprinkle gelatin over the top, and stir to distribute. Let stand one minute. Place in microwave for 30-40 seconds. Stir to dissolve.
5. Add dissolved gelatin to the mint chocolate mixture. Leave the mixture in the refrigerator overnight to harden.
6. The following day, make balls out of the mint chocolate ganache, and roll them in the oat bran on a plate.


Patzi

Tamikl
02-07-2013, 04:25 PM
Good news! I am DONE with my 30 day challenge, and am so happy about that!! I have lost 24 total inches and roughly 16 lbs...which is wonderful, but did come at a high price....in terms of what all I went through on the program.

I have now transitioned into the "Blue" menu for about 5 days, and I feel like I am eating so much! Lol...No hunger at all...:) Which is what I like!! Monday, I should transition to Green and then back into Maintenance as before. My plan is to do it right this time...or at least more structured anyway!

Well, I hope everyone else is doing well...I so appreciate the support lately, and my desire is to be there for any and all of you. This journey is made much better when we have eachother for support. Thanks so much ladies!

Tami

Going4Fit
02-08-2013, 01:56 PM
Good news! I am DONE with my 30 day challenge, and am so happy about that!!

Whew! That is good news! Congrats on your lbs loss and all those inches down too. So happy you're eating well again and not feeling hungry. So many delicious and fulfilling ways to eat lean!

patzi
02-08-2013, 05:36 PM
Tami...
I am SOOOOO happy for you.

A hint for you gals..I had put in the recipes, the Fat Burning Pancake Recipe.
I experimented with this ... I gained two pounds overnight, no reason, so I ate one of the fat burning pancakes for breakfast with some agave nectar syrup, and used 1/2 cup egg whites vs. the 1/4 in recipe and had the same for lunch. For supper, I had a regular meal that I would have on the green menu..Next morning, 2 pounds gone.. I have tried this twice, and worked both times. Go figure, eh?

Wishing you all a great night.
Patzi

patzi
02-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Going 4 Fit..

If I have not told you before, will do now.. You look fantastic in the before and after pictures.
Patzi

skelley331
02-10-2013, 10:57 PM
Hi everyone, i've been MIA for a few weeks, first had the stomach flu, then got better and one week later got a severe sinus infection, i've been totally off plan now for two weeks, i've gained like 4 lbs because my dr put me on prednisone and antibiotic for my sinus infection, i've been eating out of control and i can't seem to get back on plan, i keep telling myself okay today is the day, please send help or suggestions my way!! Do i start all over on pre-conditioning, start back on the green menu?? Any advise would be great!!! Thank you:?:

nwcgina
02-11-2013, 09:59 AM
skelley-You'd probably be fine either way. Especially if some of the weight is due to the prednisone (water weight) just getting on track with any kind of structure will get you back on track. Most of my small gains I'm fine just going back to preconditioning or metabalance a while. Right now I'm back on green since I actually gained bad weight (not just water weight) over the holidays.

Had blood work done today for life insurance. I'm excited to see the results since my last panel was done before I lost weight. My HDLs (the good kind that you want high) were too low. I'd never had that. Since I was always active before my cholesterol was always good.

Salad packed for lunch. Water going down. I will get these last couple of pounds off.

Keylani
02-11-2013, 11:51 AM
Tamikl Grats on sticking with it. Your commitment looks like it's paying off :-)

skelley331
02-11-2013, 12:12 PM
skelley-You'd probably be fine either way. Especially if some of the weight is due to the prednisone (water weight) just getting on track with any kind of structure will get you back on track. Most of my small gains I'm fine just going back to preconditioning or metabalance a while. Right now I'm back on green since I actually gained bad weight (not just water weight) over the holidays.

Had blood work done today for life insurance. I'm excited to see the results since my last panel was done before I lost weight. My HDLs (the good kind that you want high) were too low. I'd never had that. Since I was always active before my cholesterol was always good.

Salad packed for lunch. Water going down. I will get these last couple of pounds off.

Thanks nwcgina: I started the green menu today, so far so good! Thanks for your reply!!

camaswa
02-12-2013, 01:27 PM
Hi everyone, i've been MIA for a few weeks, first had the stomach flu, then got better and one week later got a severe sinus infection, i've been totally off plan now for two weeks, i've gained like 4 lbs because my dr put me on prednisone and antibiotic for my sinus infection, i've been eating out of control and i can't seem to get back on plan, i keep telling myself okay today is the day, please send help or suggestions my way!! Do i start all over on pre-conditioning, start back on the green menu?? Any advise would be great!!! Thank you:?:

I have had to be on prednisone too! Oh my god, it makes you want to eat everything in sight. And I have been so tense. I'm not sure there is anything to do but wait it out and try not to eat really bad stuff. Go for high volume, low-carb if possible. I have 3 more days of pills, and then I hope I can refocus better. The green menu is just not cutting it. I'm feeling like an animal.

skelley331
02-12-2013, 02:04 PM
I have had to be on prednisone too! Oh my god, it makes you want to eat everything in sight. And I have been so tense. I'm not sure there is anything to do but wait it out and try not to eat really bad stuff. Go for high volume, low-carb if possible. I have 3 more days of pills, and then I hope I can refocus better. The green menu is just not cutting it. I'm feeling like an animal.

camaswa: I know what you mean, i've gotten off plan and i start out good in the am but nights are terrible, i tell myself no but still eat. I called my center today and i'm going tomorrow at 9:30 am to weigh in, she told me not to worry that there are exceptions to everything. I'm suppose to stay within 6lb curve and as far as my home scales i'm good but i always weigh at least 1-1 1/2 lbs more there. But oh well it is what it is. Ive just been confused because we all know this plan works okay, but in the beginning all of your cravings go away and you do really well, then now that i've been in maintenance for over a month counting calories my cravings are back i feel out of control just like i was before i started. So what makes this any different than WW, or just plain counting calories? I have spent over $2000 for six months to get back to where i was before i found MRC, i was counting calories and actually had lost 8lbs doing so. Sorry for venting, just feel like ive been sucker punched. Thanks for listening.:dizzy::?:

rwquilts
02-12-2013, 08:45 PM
Shelley, are you still drinking lots of water. I found that I feel so much better when I do. I have been going from 131-133 pretty much over and over. When it's up, I can tell you exactly why. Maybe I had cake, or some chips, or not enough veggies or water. Being on MRC we know how to eat healthy and for me it's been a life changing experience. I know I can never again sit on the couch with a bag of chips, or chex mix, my favorite. But I can get out a portion and be satisfied. Like you, I spent a lot of money and its not going to be wasted.

skelley331
02-12-2013, 10:22 PM
Shelley, are you still drinking lots of water. I found that I feel so much better when I do. I have been going from 131-133 pretty much over and over. When it's up, I can tell you exactly why. Maybe I had cake, or some chips, or not enough veggies or water. Being on MRC we know how to eat healthy and for me it's been a life changing experience. I know I can never again sit on the couch with a bag of chips, or chex mix, my favorite. But I can get out a portion and be satisfied. Like you, I spent a lot of money and its not going to be wasted.

rwquilts: Hi, yes i'm still drinking lots of water, i had the stomach flu then a sinus infection and it's thrown me way off, i'm going tomorrow to weigh in and talk to my counselor and get back on track, thank you for your input, i love how everyone reaches out! Thank you so much. I agree too that i'm not going to go back to where i was before, i worked hard to get where i'm at, and a few pounds isn't going to take over! :carrot:

Tamikl
02-12-2013, 11:50 PM
camaswa: I know what you mean, i've gotten off plan and i start out good in the am but nights are terrible, i tell myself no but still eat. I called my center today and i'm going tomorrow at 9:30 am to weigh in, she told me not to worry that there are exceptions to everything. I'm suppose to stay within 6lb curve and as far as my home scales i'm good but i always weigh at least 1-1 1/2 lbs more there. But oh well it is what it is. Ive just been confused because we all know this plan works okay, but in the beginning all of your cravings go away and you do really well, then now that i've been in maintenance for over a month counting calories my cravings are back i feel out of control just like i was before i started. So what makes this any different than WW, or just plain counting calories? I have spent over $2000 for six months to get back to where i was before i found MRC, i was counting calories and actually had lost 8lbs doing so. Sorry for venting, just feel like ive been sucker punched. Thanks for listening.:dizzy::?:

Well...I can so relate to you. I just finished a 30 day plan as a result of 11 months of maintenance that didn't go that well. Very disappointing is an understatement. I was given daily calorie goal and off I went, spending a fortune just to gain some again. MRC are weight loss specialists....I would not go so far as to say they specialize in weight maintenance though. I am planning to utilize other measures to maintain my weight this time...but please know I get how u feel. You will be ok...just need to stay focused and realize that success ultimately lies within you...MRC can't keep our weight off of us:). Hang in there...never give up!!

Tamikl
02-12-2013, 11:52 PM
Whew! That is good news! Congrats on your lbs loss and all those inches down too. So happy you're eating well again and not feeling hungry. So many delicious and fulfilling ways to eat lean!

Thank you:). I do feel better eating again!!

Tamikl
02-12-2013, 11:58 PM
Tamikl Grats on sticking with it. Your commitment looks like it's paying off :-)

It has paid off in terms of some pounds down...but I won't even go into all of the many struggles with it. Certainly would not ever do it again. It has totally messed up my hormones, my cycle, my cravings, emotions, etc...not worth it for me anyway:(. Others won't likely get me to recommend based on my experience. All the power to those whose experience is wonderful!! I just don't relate...

camaswa
02-13-2013, 03:20 PM
The second habit of my new program is eating to 80% full. The idea is that at 80% you are actually full but your brain hasn't caught up to register it yet. You should try it, it is an interesting experience for maintenance.

Going4Fit
02-13-2013, 04:22 PM
...Others won't likely get me to recommend based on my experience...

Tamikl, this brings up something I've been struggling with. When I joined MRC I signed a waiver releasing my pictures to them. I know I was uncomfortable signing the waiver at the time, but desperate for help losing weight and just figured I'd never actually be chosen anyway. Now they've sent my pictures in and gotten approval to use me in their local newspaper ads, but they need a testimonial from me and have called me, e-mailed me, and asked me about it each time I come in. Here's my struggle:

1. I can't deny that the menu I was on worked for me. I am indeed a success story as I stuck to their program perfectly and did lose the fat.

2. However, I very strongly disagree with other menu plans and programs the center offers (like the HCG injections), and I hate the sales tactics with all of the herbal supplements and even the HNS's they are constantly pushing.

I know personally I am willing to recommend the center to someone who asks me how I lost all the weight, but not without the caveat that I warn them first about all the things I disapprove of so they can make an informed decision going in. If I were used in an ad, I would appear to be giving a blanket approval to all that MRC has to offer, which is certainly not true.

I guess when I type it out like that, it's obvious I need to tell them no.

lovetofishandrun
02-13-2013, 04:47 PM
I declined to sign the release and my center was fine with that. Can you word your statement to where you are discussing your journey and that everyone's journey is different? Just a thought

nwcgina
02-13-2013, 11:19 PM
going4fit (and all)-I would agree with your conclusion in so many ways. MRC is what I needed at the time. It worked for me. And I've been able to maintain the loss (within 5 lbs) for coming up on a year. But I would say that I could not give a blanket endorsement for MRC. It would completely depend on the counselor you work with and only a few of their eating plans are truly healthy...and many of the counselors selling tactics...ugh. For myself, I am thankful. But I also had about 4 other people who started when or after I did and they were not able to maintain the program to their goal or even to their goal. Part of the issue was them, part is (depending on your counselor) they really aren't fully trained experts to give comprehensive weight loss advice (as we see now, many of us white knuckled it through but maybe had little long term behavior modification).

I like the program camaswa is doing...Interested to hear about your journey.

And I'm with many of you that the green is just not enough. I was back on it for a week and was going to stay on it until the end of the month. But then I found myself cheating too much or being so crabby which isn't what I want....and eventually it ends in a day of food craziness (hello today). It did get me back on track so I feel comfortable doing either metabalance or preconditioning until I get off these last few pesky pounds.

skelley331
02-14-2013, 11:24 AM
Well ladies i went yesterday to my center to weigh in and i was happy that i only gained 1 1/2 lbs from being on the prednisone. As of this morning i have already lost 1lb from the gain. I'm back on track and eating healthy again yahoo!!!! :carrot:

Tamikl
02-16-2013, 07:52 PM
Well ladies i went yesterday to my center to weigh in and i was happy that i only gained 1 1/2 lbs from being on the prednisone. As of this morning i have already lost 1lb from the gain. I'm back on track and eating healthy again yahoo!!!! :carrot:

That is wonderful!! So great to see you pumped up again:). Be so proud of your efforts!

skelley331
02-17-2013, 06:08 PM
camaswa: I know what you mean, i've gotten off plan and i start out good in the am but nights are terrible, i tell myself no but still eat. I called my center today and i'm going tomorrow at 9:30 am to weigh in, she told me not to worry that there are exceptions to everything. I'm suppose to stay within 6lb curve and as far as my home scales i'm good but i always weigh at least 1-1 1/2 lbs more there. But oh well it is what it is. Ive just been confused because we all know this plan works okay, but in the beginning all of your cravings go away and you do really well, then now that i've been in maintenance for over a month counting calories my cravings are back i feel out of control just like i was before i started. So what makes this any different than WW, or just plain counting calories? I have spent over $2000 for six months to get back to where i was before i found MRC, i was counting calories and actually had lost 8lbs doing so. Sorry for venting, just feel like ive been sucker punched. Thanks for listening.:dizzy::?:


I want to appologize to MRC and all the supporters here for my post above. I guess we must remember that we all went to MRC they didn't come to us and their program does work if we all follow it 100%, so i'm thankful that i am down to a healthy bmi and overal weight, now it is entirely up to me to use the tools they taught me. I realized this last night when i was able to play the xbox 360 kinect with my two grandsons, i was able to jump up and down, kick and hit doing this game they play, it was awesome. I am 57 yrs old, I won't look like i did when i was 20, 30, 40, or even 50, nor will i look like a victoria secret model even though we all know that with the technology today they look good because they've been all touched up via make-up or their photos' have been air brushed, anyway i don't want to spend the rest of my life trying to look like i'm younger than my age or have the perfect body, i just want to be healthy and be able to enjoy my grandsons and life itself. Thanks for listening and thanks to MRC for getting me to where i am right now and i WILL continue to choose the right foods even though i may stray now and then i will never go back to being overweight!! :carrot::carrot:

brainsgirl
02-17-2013, 07:07 PM
Where can I find the Fat Burning Pancake recipe? I looked in the recipes section.

patzi
02-18-2013, 10:21 AM
Where can I find the Fat Burning Pancake recipe? I looked in the recipes section.

1/4 cup egg whites( I use 1/2 as 1/4 is not enough for me
2 tablespoons of FF Greek Yogurt
2 Tablespoons of Oat Bran.
Cinnamon,optional
Sweetener of your choice( I use Stevia)

Mix all together real well.I use the magic bullet, but can be done with a whisk..
Heat teflon pan and spray with Pam.. Pour mixture into pan and let brown on each side. Pancake is large and it covers full pan.. Do not turn over till pancake has fully browned on one side or you have a mess. Browns quickly, so keep close watch.

I use for the top,Agave nectar in place of maple syrup,or I take a fruit like blueberries, add some kuzu( use cornstarch if you like) and some water and sweetener, and cook over stove until it becomes clear and pour on top of pancake. If you use a FF Maple syrup,could use that. Amt. of water is your choice,I like to use at least 1/4 cup.
Very filling.

Patzi

patzi
02-18-2013, 10:28 AM
I am asked all the time if they can take pictures of me and I decline, and I told MRC, they need big overhall on the maintenance program. One should not have to keep tweeking menus, or using other methods, or add their products to make it work. It is constantly a struggle.

When I complain they try to get me to go on their HCG program, and I refuse to give them any more money other than maintenance, and I buy that when on special. Or they try to tell me it is hormones, and all that off the wall garbage, that I don't buy.

So, like y'all, I am trying to find a way to keep the weight off that took me so long to lose.

I am so glad of this maintenance forum, as it keeps me focused.

Appreciate all the input and honesty. To tell you the truth, am sick of being on greem menu so much, that is not what maintenance should be.

Patzi

bigdog
02-18-2013, 10:56 AM
I have had to be on prednisone too! Oh my god, it makes you want to eat everything in sight. And I have been so tense. I'm not sure there is anything to do but wait it out and try not to eat really bad stuff. Go for high volume, low-carb if possible. I have 3 more days of pills, and then I hope I can refocus better. The green menu is just not cutting it. I'm feeling like an animal.
Hello everyone! Happy Presidents Day! Prednisone makes me want to slap someone and super hungry!! And very nervous.... I'm fighting a sinus infection too and hoping the antibiotics kick it... It was 27 degrees this am in South Carolina- crazy weather. Was sunning on the deck two weeks ago!
Need to get back on track big time! With my new job I started last month and getting used to working 8 -5 in an office realized im sitting more and not free to go to the gym for Jazzercise like I was before. And can't walk the dogs every am.
I was so used to being in sales and working out of the house so now I realize the challenges of getting your water in and being tempted with snacks and desserts that co workers bring in. The first week I was eating everything then realized, hello? What am I doing???? It's crazy that when I'm not getting weighed in every week that I sneak back to old habits. WTH??
I'm still watching what I eat, drink a couple protein shakes a day but eating out more w clients and coworkers. I'm going to start writing down everything I eat and track exercise too today. Dust off the exercise bike
Oh, did I mention I got another job offer? :). So ill be starting a new job this week. YAY!!!!!!
And there are two gyms on base I can use- no excuses!
DHs new restaurant is doing great -I'm doing his FB and marketing in the pm and on weekends so we've been crazy busy
Anyway with so much going on, I need more energy and the MRC diet has the protein I need. Carbs just make me crave more and mess up my sugar level

Good luck everyone! Send me some good luck skinny vibes!

bigdog
02-18-2013, 10:59 AM
Yum! Thanks, Patzi ;)

Tamikl
02-18-2013, 05:58 PM
Hi ladies:). Just decided to check in...went to Subway for lunch win my daughter, convinced of course it is the healthiest option. It is....but today they were handing out free cookies for Presidents Day?! I passed...but just an example of the food world we live in!

Well, I am doing well...maintaining my weight...but I think that 30 day experience messed up my metabolism which seems to be quite slow at the moment. Likely calorie deprivation for too long...so gradually I am adding calories and slowly adding exercise back in.

Still not totally sure what my Maintenance is suppose to look like to be successful, but I am exploring ways of keeping track that differ a little from Green menu. I like the point system. I like being able to have anything I want so long as I adhere to my daily point allowance. I have an app on my phone now to help me keep track....and so far so good. One thing I pay attention to with the pie graph it shows me each day is that I am taking in more protein than carbs. Days aren't perfect, but I sure do feel like I have a better handle on what I am doing and what is necessary for Tami to keep things under control. I can even plan ahead of time for eat outs, parties or whatever... Very helpful.

Most recent, I decided I would like to drop just a couple more pounds, putting myself in a 5lb range that I am comfortable at. Rather than go back on Green menu, I am cutting carbs out of my dinners for a few days. This is working:). May be worth a try!

Hope everyone has a healthy day and stays motivated! The journey is worth it!!

skelley331
02-18-2013, 09:55 PM
Hi ladies:). Just decided to check in...went to Subway for lunch win my daughter, convinced of course it is the healthiest option. It is....but today they were handing out free cookies for Presidents Day?! I passed...but just an example of the food world we live in!

Well, I am doing well...maintaining my weight...but I think that 30 day experience messed up my metabolism which seems to be quite slow at the moment. Likely calorie deprivation for too long...so gradually I am adding calories and slowly adding exercise back in.

Still not totally sure what my Maintenance is suppose to look like to be successful, but I am exploring ways of keeping track that differ a little from Green menu. I like the point system. I like being able to have anything I want so long as I adhere to my daily point allowance. I have an app on my phone now to help me keep track....and so far so good. One thing I pay attention to with the pie graph it shows me each day is that I am taking in more protein than carbs. Days aren't perfect, but I sure do feel like I have a better handle on what I am doing and what is necessary for Tami to keep things under control. I can even plan ahead of time for eat outs, parties or whatever... Very helpful.

Most recent, I decided I would like to drop just a couple more pounds, putting myself in a 5lb range that I am comfortable at. Rather than go back on Green menu, I am cutting carbs out of my dinners for a few days. This is working:). May be worth a try!

Hope everyone has a healthy day and stays motivated! The journey is worth it!!

Congrats on being on maintenance, the point system you are talking about is it points or did they give you the amount of calories to follow to maintain your current weight? They gave me 1300 calories and i see you use myfitnesspal, i have been using it now for 246 days, i started using it right before i joined MRC and had lost 8lbs on it. I love it and have the app on my iphone, it's so easy to use.

skelley331
02-18-2013, 10:02 PM
I am asked all the time if they can take pictures of me and I decline, and I told MRC, they need big overhall on the maintenance program. One should not have to keep tweeking menus, or using other methods, or add their products to make it work. It is constantly a struggle.

When I complain they try to get me to go on their HCG program, and I refuse to give them any more money other than maintenance, and I buy that when on special. Or they try to tell me it is hormones, and all that off the wall garbage, that I don't buy.

So, like y'all, I am trying to find a way to keep the weight off that took me so long to lose.

I am so glad of this maintenance forum, as it keeps me focused.


Appreciate all the input and honesty. To tell you the truth, am sick of being on greem menu so much, that is not what maintenance should be.

Patzi

I'm with ya girl on the maintanence overhall! They gave me two options,
1.) follow the week six of stabilization 2.) Stay at 1300 calories and I can eat what i want but use the information i learned while on the program, eat healthy 80% of the time and 20% eat what i want but stay within the 1300 calorie a day, It seems to be working for me and i go weigh in now every two weeks instead of every week but i also keep the protein drinks because i love being able to at 15gms of protein in them, i only drink one a day!!:dust:

patzi
02-21-2013, 09:43 AM
Hello everyone..
I weighed in Tuesday and stayed the same, so I have maintained.

Has anyone noticed that there are fewer people at MRC? I have noticed that
the past 6 months, and when I went in Tuesday, the hours are really cut back, as they had a sign with new hours. It may be the economy, as many places are suffering or have closed.

Hope you all are doing well and maintaining best you can.

Bigdog... Wishing you well in the job of your choice. Nice to hear from you.


Patzi

nwcgina
02-21-2013, 03:55 PM
I think one of the keys is seeing that there are several ways of maintaining a healthy weight...not the same one doesn't work for everyone. With successful maintainers of all ages and weight loss methods the common themes are 1) exercise consistently, 2) some type of food journal, and 3) eating breakfast. I would add also successful maintainers have methods of dealing with setbacks.

I was trying to use the green menu to get off my holiday weight and just couldn't stick with it more than about 2 days...I'd get cranky and really weak. My parents shared with me a book "Metabolism Miracle"...which is in a lot of ways similar to MRC. 8 weeks of a low carb plan (similar to the green menu but doesn't limit your protein or veggies, so you can eat those as you feel hungry), step 2 which reintroduces more carbohydrate at specific intervals and in specific amounts (reminds me of metabalance). You stick with that until you reach your goal weight and then there is a maintenance plan based on your age, gender, and activity level. The plan is mainly aimed at people who show signs of insulin resistance, but I'm going to use it to get back to my happy weight. And with the plan she also outlines what she does (she's a dietician) after a "slip up" (vacation, holiday, etc). 10 days on step 1, 10 days on step 2, back to step 2 or 3 depending on where you were. I don't think it's a plan for everyone, but it may be worth checking out if MRC worked for you but find that now it's too restrictive or not quite working. The nice thing is right now I'm hungry and know I can eat a protein and veggie or even nuts. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm only doing 10 days on step 1 since I don't have much to lose and I don't really show the signs of insulin resistance.

skelley331
02-21-2013, 06:06 PM
I think one of the keys is seeing that there are several ways of maintaining a healthy weight...not the same one doesn't work for everyone. With successful maintainers of all ages and weight loss methods the common themes are 1) exercise consistently, 2) some type of food journal, and 3) eating breakfast. I would add also successful maintainers have methods of dealing with setbacks.

I was trying to use the green menu to get off my holiday weight and just couldn't stick with it more than about 2 days...I'd get cranky and really weak. My parents shared with me a book "Metabolism Miracle"...which is in a lot of ways similar to MRC. 8 weeks of a low carb plan (similar to the green menu but doesn't limit your protein or veggies, so you can eat those as you feel hungry), step 2 which reintroduces more carbohydrate at specific intervals and in specific amounts (reminds me of metabalance). You stick with that until you reach your goal weight and then there is a maintenance plan based on your age, gender, and activity level. The plan is mainly aimed at people who show signs of insulin resistance, but I'm going to use it to get back to my happy weight. And with the plan she also outlines what she does (she's a dietician) after a "slip up" (vacation, holiday, etc). 10 days on step 1, 10 days on step 2, back to step 2 or 3 depending on where you were. I don't think it's a plan for everyone, but it may be worth checking out if MRC worked for you but find that now it's too restrictive or not quite working. The nice thing is right now I'm hungry and know I can eat a protein and veggie or even nuts. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm only doing 10 days on step 1 since I don't have much to lose and I don't really show the signs of insulin resistance.

RE: Oh wow, let us know how it goes, i might be interested in trying it.

faerychic
02-22-2013, 12:43 PM
I think one of the keys is seeing that there are several ways of maintaining a healthy weight...not the same one doesn't work for everyone. With successful maintainers of all ages and weight loss methods the common themes are 1) exercise consistently, 2) some type of food journal, and 3) eating breakfast. I would add also successful maintainers have methods of dealing with setbacks.

I was trying to use the green menu to get off my holiday weight and just couldn't stick with it more than about 2 days...I'd get cranky and really weak. My parents shared with me a book "Metabolism Miracle"...which is in a lot of ways similar to MRC. 8 weeks of a low carb plan (similar to the green menu but doesn't limit your protein or veggies, so you can eat those as you feel hungry), step 2 which reintroduces more carbohydrate at specific intervals and in specific amounts (reminds me of metabalance). You stick with that until you reach your goal weight and then there is a maintenance plan based on your age, gender, and activity level. The plan is mainly aimed at people who show signs of insulin resistance, but I'm going to use it to get back to my happy weight. And with the plan she also outlines what she does (she's a dietician) after a "slip up" (vacation, holiday, etc). 10 days on step 1, 10 days on step 2, back to step 2 or 3 depending on where you were. I don't think it's a plan for everyone, but it may be worth checking out if MRC worked for you but find that now it's too restrictive or not quite working. The nice thing is right now I'm hungry and know I can eat a protein and veggie or even nuts. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm only doing 10 days on step 1 since I don't have much to lose and I don't really show the signs of insulin resistance.

Thanks for sharing this. I have been looking for something that is not as restrictive as MRC. I was always starving on the green menu so I have not even attempted to go back on it to lose the holiday weight. I've been doing metabalance but not losing (well, not a strict metabalance - I won't want to eat the "fake" food aka HNS's any longer).

skelley331
02-22-2013, 11:17 PM
I think one of the keys is seeing that there are several ways of maintaining a healthy weight...not the same one doesn't work for everyone. With successful maintainers of all ages and weight loss methods the common themes are 1) exercise consistently, 2) some type of food journal, and 3) eating breakfast. I would add also successful maintainers have methods of dealing with setbacks.

I was trying to use the green menu to get off my holiday weight and just couldn't stick with it more than about 2 days...I'd get cranky and really weak. My parents shared with me a book "Metabolism Miracle"...which is in a lot of ways similar to MRC. 8 weeks of a low carb plan (similar to the green menu but doesn't limit your protein or veggies, so you can eat those as you feel hungry), step 2 which reintroduces more carbohydrate at specific intervals and in specific amounts (reminds me of metabalance). You stick with that until you reach your goal weight and then there is a maintenance plan based on your age, gender, and activity level. The plan is mainly aimed at people who show signs of insulin resistance, but I'm going to use it to get back to my happy weight. And with the plan she also outlines what she does (she's a dietician) after a "slip up" (vacation, holiday, etc). 10 days on step 1, 10 days on step 2, back to step 2 or 3 depending on where you were. I don't think it's a plan for everyone, but it may be worth checking out if MRC worked for you but find that now it's too restrictive or not quite working. The nice thing is right now I'm hungry and know I can eat a protein and veggie or even nuts. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm only doing 10 days on step 1 since I don't have much to lose and I don't really show the signs of insulin resistance.

nwcgina: I bought the book and have been reading nonstop, it is so close to MRC but so different, i can't but the book down, Ever since i had to take prednisone for my sinus infection all i want to do is eat carbs carbs and more carbs, i've gained 4 lbs yikes!! I think i'm going to do this metabolism miracle and see if it helps. After I hit maintenance with in one week i wanted to go back to eating my old ways, all my cravings returned. NOT fair!! but i'm trying very hard but after reading almost half of this book she makes so much sense!!! I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for posting this information.:carrot:

nwcgina
02-23-2013, 08:13 PM
skelley-definitely let me know what you think and if it works for you. It was my parents book and I only had a chance to look at it while they were here. I wrote down everything I thought I would need to remember. I just finished Day 3 on the level 1. Today was probably the hardest, especially with a big birthday party...but the mama at the party is paleo so there were lots of veggie and protein options. My mom made me the sweet nut recipe in the back. Highly recommend it.

patzi
02-23-2013, 08:56 PM
Gina...
Thanks for sharing the book idea.. I am going to order it tomorrow for sure.

Patzi

Tamikl
02-24-2013, 08:38 PM
Well it sounds like I need to look into this book, also! I have been reading materials non-stop, and do believe at this point that there are healthier ways of maintaining than to continue with restrictions all of the time. Certainly is an individual journey, so what works for some may not work for all.

When I was referring to using a point system, I was referring to Weight Watchers. I did this program for a short time quite a while back, and the simplicity of keeping track of daily points, while having no limit on what I can eat worked for me. At the time, it seemed a bit restrictive, but now that I have been through Metabolic menu's and 30 day magic, weight watcher system seems like a piece of cake!! We shall see...so far so good...is keeping me on track at the moment anyway.

I keep reading about how while exercise revs up metabolism, so does eating! When we go on low calorie diets, that really isn't helping our metabolism...our bodies just get used to having less so we lose weight, and then when we add foods back in, we gain because our metabolism is slow from being on a low calorie diet. It is like a vicious cycle. They say the longer this goes on, the harder it becomes to lose weight each time we try to, and if one does gain, sometimes it has them weighing more than they did when they started! From what I am reading, there is absolutely no reason that we should have to stay at 1200-1500 calories for the rest of our lives to maintain our weight...if we exercise and eat healthy, that amount should be able to increase to at least 2000 calories per day. Also, the importance in eating out of all food groups is so important to lasting weight management. I could go on and on. Obviously people vary, and it would depend on health issues and our activity levels, but I am pretty motivated to learn all of this new material for sure. Understanding how it all works in our bodies is sure helpful! What I do know is that MRC works to lose weight..but I am beginning to learn why it doesn't work for maintaining it.

We all have lost good weight, but did it with restriction...and when we gain, we are taught to control it with more restriction. This isn't working for me...I need another plan, so I appreciate all of the insights on new alternatives to try! Thank you!

skelley331
02-24-2013, 09:18 PM
skelley-definitely let me know what you think and if it works for you. It was my parents book and I only had a chance to look at it while they were here. I wrote down everything I thought I would need to remember. I just finished Day 3 on the level 1. Today was probably the hardest, especially with a big birthday party...but the mama at the party is paleo so there were lots of veggie and protein options. My mom made me the sweet nut recipe in the back. Highly recommend it.

nwcgina: I sure will, it's basically what MRC does on the pre-conditioning but you have more foods to choose from. I'm going to try and start day one tomorrow so i'm hoping i can stay with it for at least 10 days like you are doing then go to step two, i would like to lose another 10lbs. :carrot:

nwcgina
02-24-2013, 10:29 PM
I think that tami is right on that not one approach works for everyone, especially long term. I think almost any plan if you can stick with it would actually work...but we all have to find what approach works for us both in the losing phase and the maintaining phase. For me, my body needs carbs, but that's also the area where I tend to overeat. So finding a plan that puts limits on my carb intake (while not being super restrictive) really should work best for me. I'm just finishing day 4. She says in the book the first 3 days are hardest. And today was much better. I'm never hungry unless it's meal time, but my cravings are already going away. Like I went grocery shopping tonight and the bakery area which usually makes me crazy (even though I never buy anything, it just happens to be situated right between the poultry and the produce) didn't even bother me today.

skelley-you are right that it is like the preconditioning but you also have a bigger selection AND you do eat a few more times a day if you wish. Like I usually eat at 7, 11/12, 3, 6, and a small snack before bed if I'm hungry. Finding the 5x5 carbs is hard...I'm mainly just doing low carb bread but I did find that dark chocolate in a very small amount is also a 5x5, so sometimes I use that instead (especially that 3:00 snack...a piece of dark chocolate with 1 oz of almonds hits the spot).

skelley331
02-25-2013, 12:42 PM
I think that tami is right on that not one approach works for everyone, especially long term. I think almost any plan if you can stick with it would actually work...but we all have to find what approach works for us both in the losing phase and the maintaining phase. For me, my body needs carbs, but that's also the area where I tend to overeat. So finding a plan that puts limits on my carb intake (while not being super restrictive) really should work best for me. I'm just finishing day 4. She says in the book the first 3 days are hardest. And today was much better. I'm never hungry unless it's meal time, but my cravings are already going away. Like I went grocery shopping tonight and the bakery area which usually makes me crazy (even though I never buy anything, it just happens to be situated right between the poultry and the produce) didn't even bother me today.

skelley-you are right that it is like the preconditioning but you also have a bigger selection AND you do eat a few more times a day if you wish. Like I usually eat at 7, 11/12, 3, 6, and a small snack before bed if I'm hungry. Finding the 5x5 carbs is hard...I'm mainly just doing low carb bread but I did find that dark chocolate in a very small amount is also a 5x5, so sometimes I use that instead (especially that 3:00 snack...a piece of dark chocolate with 1 oz of almonds hits the spot).

nwcgina: I downloaded the book onto my kindle, i wish i could print from it but can't, i need to jot down the list.:carrot:

kelley87
02-25-2013, 10:44 PM
Hello!! Im on step two but have LOTS of recipes for steps one and two!!! :) How are you all doing on the MM??

nwcgina
02-25-2013, 10:55 PM
Day 5 done. I'm ready for step 2. :) I probably shouldn't have worked out so hard until I hit step 2...but I survived. But it was one of those days full of temptation..."won" an extra large kit kat at the library (random, I know, but I also got a little notebook and pencil that I'll use for a food journal) and my husband happened to go to our favorite steak restaurant without me...and brought home their amazing rolls:(

skelley331
02-26-2013, 11:06 AM
Day 5 done. I'm ready for step 2. :) I probably shouldn't have worked out so hard until I hit step 2...but I survived. But it was one of those days full of temptation..."won" an extra large kit kat at the library (random, I know, but I also got a little notebook and pencil that I'll use for a food journal) and my husband happened to go to our favorite steak restaurant without me...and brought home their amazing rolls:(

nwcgina: I have come to terms that i cannot eat carbs or at least alot of them, so i'm going to just do low carbs, protein, veggies. :carrot:

nwcgina
02-26-2013, 06:56 PM
I'm starting step 2 tomorrow. It's a high intensity exercise day so I'll use the carbs. The program really is just a version of how many diabetics manage their carbohydrate intake (15 g carbs = 1 starch...based on your age, etc will determine the # of starches per day). For the losing phase (phase 2), I'll basically be having 5-6 starch equivalents per day (one each at 7, 11, 2, 5, & 8:30-on workout days I'll have a midmorning snack). I already have my tomorrow meals planned out. I know that is always huge for my success...preplanning. I've been out of the habit...I always plan our evening meals ahead of time, but haven't been doing my full day. Even if I make a change I try to do a 1:1 (i.e. if I end up eating a sweet potato instead of bread I'll keep it in the 11-20 g carb range).

patzi
02-27-2013, 10:59 AM
Hi...
I am starting on phase 1 today... I weighed in yesterday and lost 1 pound, still can't make it down to my goal and stay thereso will work on this with y'all.. I noticed some belly flab coming back, so it is time to address it.

Patzi

nwcgina
02-27-2013, 05:45 PM
I haven't stepped on the scale in a few days. Mainly because it was easy to get discouraged not seeing numbers move. I decided I just needed to stay consistent with the plan for several days and then step on the scale. I feel so much better. Back in control. No wild blood sugar swings or crazy eating binges. And planning out my day ahead of time and writing it down, I forgot how much that helped. It keeps me from constantly thinking "what do I get to eat next" and being tempted by craving. I know what time and what I'm going to eat.

camaswa
03-01-2013, 07:27 PM
That book is so interesting! I just browsed it quickly but it certainly seems to capture our experience of quickly gaining when we hit maintenance. ( How she talks about people coming off low carb.). I felt like she was speaking right to me.

Update on my Lean Eating program: this week introduces another new habit, one I already do: eat protein at every "feeding." I have been shocked at how many people don't eat much protein. That's one really good thing about MRC.

The other habits so far are to take fish oil and a probiotic, eat more slowly, and eat to only 80% full. If I could master those last two I would probably never gain weight again!

lovetofishandrun
03-04-2013, 02:56 PM
Ran my first 10K yesterday. I FINISHED:dancer: I have registered for half marathon in October.:yikes: Any of you in Arkansas, try the Women Can Run clinic which will be in over 40 cities. It is a free 10 week clinic just for women and it doesn't matter if you have been running for years or you want to start moving. Graduation at end of 10 weeks is a women's only 5K. Good luck to all on your journey.

nwcgina
03-04-2013, 09:52 PM
lovestofishandrun-congrats on finishing the 10K. I went for my first run since about October yesterday (I'm a wimp in the cold weather). It was rough but excited to get back into it. My knees only hold up for about 3 miles these days, so I stick to the low distances. Hoping to find some friends to do a sprint tri this year and probably a mud run.

Going4Fit
03-05-2013, 05:23 AM
Hi all,

So I'm a maintainer now I guess. I finished stabilization a few weeks ago. I haven't posted because I crashed and burned big time my first week on the 1200 calorie maintenance menu. I had been tracking my calories through stabilization and was already over 1200 and sometimes even 1300 by the time I finished week four. So I was upset trying to work the new menu, which allows some bigger portions, and trying to check off all the different things I was supposed to include in my day. I ran out of calories each day. I should have called the center but instead I made the choice to feel sorry for myself and with some additional triggers (some negative comments, Valentine's Day, my anniversary) I decided to just eat what I wanted. That didn't go so well because I can't just eat what I want - something evil takes over and I become obsessed with intentionally overeating. I was shocked at how sick I got.

Anyway, I wish I'd understood maintenance better. Turns out they were just starting me out on the 1200 calories, and planned on giving me the 1300 calorie menu next, then the 1400 one if I still maintained, etc. Here I was feeling sorry for myself, thinking I couldn't possibly maintain this weight if I had to live on a dieter's portion of calories the rest of my life. So I'd agree the maintenance needs some improvement.

I didn't dare weigh in that week and I waited until I'd eaten clean (I decided to stay above 1200 calories to keep my body out of starvation mode, but below 1300 calories), and I picked back up with exercise for a full week before going. I was up a pound and a half. Considering the many thousands of calories I'd consumed on those off days the week before, I wasn't surprised.

They still wanted me to increase my calories. I have a hard time understanding how I wouldn't gain if I'd already maintained at a certain level, but I've decided to trust the process. I've upped my caloric intake to between 1300 and 1400 and will wait until next week to weigh in. I'll let you all know how it goes.

skelley331
03-05-2013, 01:18 PM
Hi all,

So I'm a maintainer now I guess. I finished stabilization a few weeks ago. I haven't posted because I crashed and burned big time my first week on the 1200 calorie maintenance menu. I had been tracking my calories through stabilization and was already over 1200 and sometimes even 1300 by the time I finished week four. So I was upset trying to work the new menu, which allows some bigger portions, and trying to check off all the different things I was supposed to include in my day. I ran out of calories each day. I should have called the center but instead I made the choice to feel sorry for myself and with some additional triggers (some negative comments, Valentine's Day, my anniversary) I decided to just eat what I wanted. That didn't go so well because I can't just eat what I want - something evil takes over and I become obsessed with intentionally overeating. I was shocked at how sick I got.

Anyway, I wish I'd understood maintenance better. Turns out they were just starting me out on the 1200 calories, and planned on giving me the 1300 calorie menu next, then the 1400 one if I still maintained, etc. Here I was feeling sorry for myself, thinking I couldn't possibly maintain this weight if I had to live on a dieter's portion of calories the rest of my life. So I'd agree the maintenance needs some improvement.

I didn't dare weigh in that week and I waited until I'd eaten clean (I decided to stay above 1200 calories to keep my body out of starvation mode, but below 1300 calories), and I picked back up with exercise for a full week before going. I was up a pound and a half. Considering the many thousands of calories I'd consumed on those off days the week before, I wasn't surprised.

They still wanted me to increase my calories. I have a hard time understanding how I wouldn't gain if I'd already maintained at a certain level, but I've decided to trust the process. I've upped my caloric intake to between 1300 and 1400 and will wait until next week to weigh in. I'll let you all know how it goes.

Going4fit: Wow i totally understand where you are coming from, i've been on maintenance since jan 4th, they started me out on the 1300 calorie menu and for the first two weeks i was so confused and i couldn't consume all the foods, i maintained for 4 wks then i gradually started gaining, i've gained 5 lbs so last week she had me cut out bananas, bagels, anything white, i cannot consume all the high carbs on the 1300 menu, they don't agree with me, so i'm hoping when i go weigh in next week i'll be down a couple of pounds. She pretty much told me to eat clean 80% of the time and that i could indulge in my other favorite foods as long as i stayed in the 1300 calorie range, but my problem is that i'm still hungry at night. Congrats on hitting maintenance but it is another process we have to figure out.

patzi
03-05-2013, 01:37 PM
I weighed in today and gained one pound.
Patzi

Tamikl
03-05-2013, 06:58 PM
Hello ladies:)

Just touching base. Clearly we are all still on the same journey just a different day!!

I am maintaining at the moment:) Also, I have seen less weight fluctuations in the morning when I weigh...regardless if I go out to eat or not?? Not normal for me, but I will take it!

I am continuing to keep track of food point values rather than calories consumed. This is working for me....there is no food I cannot have and I love that. I do try to make protein higher than carbs, and that seems to be working. If I want to drop a little, I cut carbs out of dinner time. While I would like to drop a few right now, I am just not ready to restrict again so soon. That is how I know I got burnt out of that....not willing to even for just 2 lbs. I will get there, just won't allow myself to go up while I am getting there:)

Also, I am eating when my body says "hungry." I am not overdoing it...just something every 2-3 hours so that I don't go into a meal starved. I almost feel bad for what I put my body through during that 30 day plan. I got results, but they came at a high price. Not going to starve myself like that again.

Well, hang in there ladies...continue to explore options to determine what works best for you. I have found that key for me is when nothing is off limits, I don't crave items like I used to.

nwcgina
03-05-2013, 10:57 PM
Lots of frustration out there. Here too. I was trying the metabolism miracle and my weight kept climbing...not because the plan was bad, but because I was eating way too much cheese and nuts and still cheating eating more carbs than I should yikes. And I was drinking huge amounts of diet soda and not enough water. Water is key for me.

I had a friend contact me asking what program I used to lose weight. She's using WW and has grown frustrated since she still cheats and then doesn't lose. I told her the pros and cons of MRC. We talked a lot and both of us realize the huge emotional issues tied to eating we need to work on...and a lot of that manifests in mindless snacking (hello, it's almost 9pm and it's a good thing I rid the house of chocolate...) So we made ourselves a few rules for the week and see how it works:
1) Only eat the three meals, a snack in the afternoon if more than 5 hours between meals (I almost always need this)
2) No sweets. None. For now.
3) No diet soda or artificial sweetners (again, I was relying too much on those type of beverages and not enough water).

Those were the rules we agreed on. And just having those has helped immensely. I feel good and I'm not constantly thinking about food. I don't overeat at meals, but I know meal time is eating and the rest of the day is for whatever else, not snacking. I'll weigh at the end of the week and see how it's going (I am tracking my calories, too. We said said we didn't have to, but it helps me). But I am also basically keeping to 11-20 grams of carbs per meal like MM suggests, just now allowing myself unlimited proteins/fats.

Going4Fit
03-07-2013, 06:48 PM
I'm really enjoying being on the calorie based menu and not being restricted to certain foods anymore. I'm taking it slowly, keeping mostly with the meals I learned to make while on plan, but making little changes here and there. For instance, only 2 oz. of chicken with my lunch yesterday since that's all I needed to make a tortilla wrap with. White onions and red peppers instead of green onions and green peppers. I've been having larger portions of vegetables with my meals. Today for lunch I used a chicken sausage from Costco instead of the MRC cookbook faux turkey sausage. MyFitnessPal helps me make sure I'm still getting a good balance of fat, carbs and protein.

Eating really lean, healthy main meals (I aim for 300-400 calories) saves calories for snacks, or every now and then a treat. I really freaked my 4 year old out when she saw me with a Cadbury Cream egg! But you can buy them individually and each one is 150 calories.

So I bought the Syntrax Vanilla Bean Torte protein powder that BigDog is always talking about, and for my birthday I requested and received a variety pack of Torani sugar free syrups. Today after my workout I made my protein shake into a faux Shamrock Shake after reading this blog entry (http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com/search?q=shamrock+shake) - been wanting one since I saw the signs up at McDonalds, but I checked the nutrition info (http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.mccafe.793.793.Shamrock-McCafe-Shake-12-fl-oz-cup.html) and whoa! Even if I got the small with no whipped cream or cherry on top, I could still only have half to get it within a doable range. Not worth it! This version was only 110 calories, 6 grams of carbs, 3 grams fat, and had 15 grams of protein. And I got to have the whip cream and didn't have to share it.

Protein Shamrock Shake
1/2 C milk (your choice - I used Great Value brand Vanilla Soymilk - 45 cal)
1/2 scoop Syntrax vanilla bean torte protein powder (50 cal)
1 1/2 Tbsp Torani sugar free vanilla syrup (since I don't have peppermint - 0 cal)
1/4 tsp peppermint extract (omit this if you have the peppermint syrup - 0 cal)
2-3 large ice cubes (0 cal)
1 (5 gram) serving of ReddiWhip dairy topping (15 cal)

Blend everything together, adding ice last to get it cold and frothy, and topping with the Reddiwhip. Yummy! Again, only 110 calories (see other stats above).

bigdog
03-08-2013, 12:19 AM
Hey guys! What book are u talking about? Ji want to read it :)
Just got my order of Syntrax vanilla bean torte and also a new flavor- double stuffed cookie. Also got some PB2 with chocolate- WOW !! Really good on slices of golden delish apples and I added some to my protein shake for a treat.
The Shamrock shake sounds great!
Been at my new job 2 weeks and been so busy I haven't been able to get all my water in. New job is property mgmt and realized having to pee all the time and walking the properties isn't a good idea! Lol! When I get more settled in, I'd like to get another mini blender and keep it in the kitchen at work to make sure I get more shakes in. Still getting used to having to be at work at 8am after working out of my house for 10 years... Don't miss sales at all!
Hope everything is going good for everyone!! I need to catch up on the posts this weekend

Going4Fit
03-09-2013, 08:42 PM
LOVE PB2 and PB2 with Chocolate! My new favorite products for sure, and I'm thrilled my local grocery store now carries them in the health food section. I am a peanut butter fanatic, and it was the first fat I introduced back into my diet when I was allowed it on stabilization, but now in maintenance I hardly ever want to spare the calories for it. 190 calories for 2 Tbsp of Skippy, vs. 45 calories for 2 Tbsp of PB2, and way less fat and still plenty of protein! :yay: I've only just tried it re-constituted and I like it that way too, but it's best in recipes.

Chocolate Peanut Butter Oatmeal
1/4 Cup (20 grams) old fashioned oatmeal (75 calories)
1 serving (12 grams) PB2 with Chocolate (45 calories)
sweetener of choice (I use 1 serving of Splenda or Truvia - 0 calories)
2/3 C unsweetened vanilla almond milk (I use Silk brand - 20 calories)

Combine all ingredients and microwave on high 2 1/2 minutes.

Prepared my way it's only 140 calories, which leaves plenty of calories for more protein, (eggs, cottage cheese, a protein shake) and some fruit on the side. And it's delicious!

Tamikl
03-10-2013, 05:46 PM
LOVE PB2 and PB2 with Chocolate! My new favorite products for sure, and I'm thrilled my local grocery store now carries them in the health food section. I am a peanut butter fanatic, and it was the first fat I introduced back into my diet when I was allowed it on stabilization, but now in maintenance I hardly ever want to spare the calories for it. 190 calories for 2 Tbsp of Skippy, vs. 45 calories for 2 Tbsp of PB2, and way less fat and still plenty of protein! :yay: I've only just tried it re-constituted and I like it that way too, but it's best in recipes.

Chocolate Peanut Butter Oatmeal
1/4 Cup (20 grams) old fashioned oatmeal (75 calories)
1 serving (12 grams) PB2 with Chocolate (45 calories)
sweetener of choice (I use 1 serving of Splenda or Truvia - 0 calories)
2/3 C unsweetened vanilla almond milk (I use Silk brand - 20 calories)

Combine all ingredients and microwave on high 2 1/2 minutes.

Prepared my way it's only 140 calories, which leaves plenty of calories for your protein, (eggs, cottage cheese, a protein shake) and some fruit on the side. And it's delicious!

WOW! That does look yummy! Thanks for sharing your recipes:)

Tamikl
03-10-2013, 06:01 PM
[QUOTE=Tamikl;4662588]There is also a product out there called "Better N Peanut Butter." They sell it in regular, chocolate, and banana flavored. It is real good, too. 100 calories per 2 Tbsp...so not quite as low in calories as the PB2, but still better than regular for all of us!

Well, what a peaceful Sunday. So far so good with meal choices:) Of course, it is only early afternoon where I am!

I work out at Curves now, and enjoy it. I love the distraction of vistiting with all of the ladies there, but I also have an accountability piece with this key you use to keep track of your performance on each machine. I plug it in to each machine I use and at the end of my work-out I get the results of my effort for that day. Very motivating! I am so glad we have a Curves here...the gym scene and lifting weights wasn't my thing.

I love the almond milks...and I also enjoy the calorie FREE Walden Farm products. It is amazing to see myself shop at a grocery store now adays. So different than before. I feel like I have learned so much out of this process with MRC and going forward, I am confident at least that I know what is healthy now. I love what it is teaching my 3 kids now, too. We are their example, and I just hope and pray they see what we do now and carry the healthier habits with them. They don't complain at all when i introduce items and they actually get a little bent out of shape if mom orders them a pizza and I have something different. They think that if it isn't ok for mom to eat, they shouldn't either....lol. They are still kids and I think should be able to enjoy those treats sometimes...but old habits die hard (or did for me) and so the sooner they choose better, the easier it will be for them in the long run I suppose. I just don't want them paranoid about eating treats occasionally.

Basically, I am grateful that this journey has influenced those that I love in a positive way as well....very much worth the effort.

teacherlady79
03-10-2013, 09:04 PM
Hi ladies! Thanks for sharing the shamrock shake and choco-pb oatmeal! Especially the oatmeal, as I'm just trying to figure out more ways to incorporate that into my diet right now.

I got some disappointing news the other day. I had my doctor draw blood a few weeks ago to check my cholesterol level (I hadn't had it checked since I was considerably heavier and it was about 12 years ago--and it was about 245 back then). I was kind of excited to see the results, since I've been maintaining my weight loss and exercising so regularly.

I got the call from the nurse who told me that my cholesterol is at 240! UGH! My triglycerides were low and my HDL ("good" cholesterol) was high--which is good. But my LDL ("bad" cholesterol and a sign of heart disease) was still high. SO DISAPPOINTING! My dad and his dad had a history of heart disease and high cholesterol, and so did my grandmother on my mom's side, so I guess genetics are playing a large part in this for me. :( The nurse told me we'll re-check in 6 months, and that I should make sure I start to exercise regularly and modify my diet (obviously she hadn't checked my records). I told her I run 3x a week and do yoga 3-4x a week. She told me (very condescendingly) that I "still need to modify" my diet. I told her I've lost 114lbs and eat mostly chicken, fish, and veggies. She had no response, really.

So, since I usually eat an egg and a slice of Sargento low-fat colby jack with low-carb bread every morning, I'm going to switch to egg whites and try to add oatmeal (known for reducing cholesterol). I've already added a handful of almonds with my apple for my afternoon snack every day (supposedly also good for cholesterol reduction). I haven't been eating as much fish lately, so I'll try to do more of that, too. Other than that, I can't think of anything else that I can really do to lower my cholesterol without medication. :(

Anyway, here's an eggwhite/oatmeal recipe I found and tried this morning, since I wanted a protein source to put in my oatmeal (and don't want to rely on protein powders):
http://www.canyoustayfordinner.com/2011/12/12/the-best-300-calorie-oatmeal-youll-ever-have/

I only had about 3/4 of it (and I omitted the butter but added stevia and cinnamon), and it was delicious! Plus, I wasn't starving by lunchtime, as I usually am.

I have some PB2, so maybe I'll try it with that tomorrow morning, and then eventually buy the chocolate PB2.

Going4Fit
03-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Okay, first of all I weighed in and was back down to my final stabilized weight (my avatar weight) that I reached before my "crash and burn" on maintenance. :cheer3: Remember, that was with a 100 calorie/day increase in calories (around 1350/day) the past two weeks! Seeing that I did it - made the right choices, got things in control but didn't need to resort to going to green menu - that really helps my confidence to know that I do indeed have the tools to maintain this new weight and even correct some small gains. I can do it! I'm adding another 100 calories/day starting today and will see how the next two weeks go.

Secondly, Tamikl!!! I feel so blessed to read such an uplifting post from you! I'm glad you're liking Curves - my weak spot is still trying to find an exercise that I enjoy and don't dread having to do. My current goal is to gain between 5 - 10 lbs of lean muscle and today was my first day at the gym starting an eight week weight lifting program (from a guide I purchased on-line at builtlean.com). Biggest hurdle was overcoming the self-consciousness of going to the gym and doing my workout in "public" without a trainer or friend/spouse there for support. So grateful to be able to place my identity in Christ, but it's a constant battle.

My grocery shopping nowadays is so different too! Much more time/money spent in the perimeter of the store. I'm going to press hubby to allow us to use some of our tax refund towards a new refrigerator - I really need a bigger one, and in particular a model with a much larger produce drawer for all the fresh veggies I go through now - so tired of how crammed packed it is and not being able to fit everything. Rough problem to have huh? :dizzy:

Super extra congrats on your family wanting to eat healthy because of you! My family hasn't gone there so much yet. I still cook separately for them. And in fact, I'm an enabler since I love to cook and bake homemade wonderfulness and I think I make even more of it to live vicariously through them. :o

teacherlady79, we haven't officially "met". So am I reading your avatar S/C/G correctly in that you lost 45 more pounds than your goal? That's great! How long have you maintained at 150? I feel so bad for you with the high cholesterol results - how disappointing that must be after all the healthy changes you've made since your last test. Sometimes life is just unfair. Kudos to you for plugging on and seeing what other dietary changes you can make!

Don't forget, dairy milk is a good source of protein in itself, so cooking your oatmeal with that instead of water gets you protein without the eggs. Adding the PB2 gets you even more! That's my one problem with almond milk - only 1 gram of protein per cup (vs. 9 grams in a cup of skim milk). Don't understand it when almonds are supposed to be a good high protein snack choice.

Bigdog, my husband and his brother started their own property management company last year. I hardly see him anymore! Have fun showing properties. My husband is hoping to do more of that part as the business goes on but right now he's the accounting side of the business so he's still a desk jockey.

Time to go feed the family!

teacherlady79
03-11-2013, 10:20 PM
Okay, first of all I weighed in and was back down to my final stabilized weight (my avatar weight) that I reached before my "crash and burn" on maintenance. :cheer3: Remember, that was with a 100 calorie/day increase in calories (around 1350/day) the past two weeks! Seeing that I did it - made the right choices, got things in control but didn't need to resort to going to green menu - that really helps my confidence to know that I do indeed have the tools to maintain this new weight and even correct some small gains. I can do it! I'm adding another 100 calories/day starting today and will see how the next two weeks go.

teacherlady79, we haven't officially "met". So am I reading your avatar S/C/G correctly in that you lost 45 more pounds than your goal? That's great! How long have you maintained at 150? I feel so bad for you with the high cholesterol results - how disappointing that must be after all the healthy changes you've made since your last test. Sometimes life is just unfair. Kudos to you for plugging on and seeing what other dietary changes you can make!



Going4Fit: I started with MRC in September 2010, then started stabilization in May 2011 when I was down about 70 lbs. I have been heavy most of my life, so I was totally satisfied with starting maintenance at 190lbs (my original goal). Plus, I never in a million years thought I could go lower than that and maintain it, as I weighed about 180 when I graduated from high school.

However, I wasn't happy with my physical fitness level (I was only doing yoga and some walking at that time), so I started running to train for a 5k. I didn't adjust my maintenance calorie intake because I felt like I could stand to lose a few more pounds. Then I started working on my yoga teacher certification program, too. So, between June 2011 and September 2012, I lost about another 40 lbs--much slower, because I was on the maintenance menu with only a 100-250 calorie a day deficit (usually on the days I exercised) and some weeks I lost, some I stayed the same.

So, to get to your question, I've been maintaining between 149 and 153 since about September of 2012. :D It hasn't always been easy, but I'm desperately determined not to go back anywhere near the weight I was!

skelley331
03-12-2013, 11:35 AM
Okay now i'm starting to struggle, i'm up 7 lbs geez, this is hard, i do so well during the days of the week, the nights i feel so hungry after dinner and the weekends wow. I just wish i could go back to when i started MRC and didn't have all the cravings, why can't we keep our brains in that mode!!! :mad:

teacherlady79
03-12-2013, 09:55 PM
Okay now i'm starting to struggle, i'm up 7 lbs geez, this is hard, i do so well during the days of the week, the nights i feel so hungry after dinner and the weekends wow. I just wish i could go back to when i started MRC and didn't have all the cravings, why can't we keep our brains in that mode!!! :mad:

If it makes you feel better, I really struggle on the weekends, too, just because I'm home and around more accessible food. I've made a concerted effort to just try to keep busy--away from the house--as much as possible on the weekends, to keep from giving in to temptation. I've also tried keeping "safe" snacks on hand, such as celery and lo-cal ranch, etc.

Do you have any kind of snack planned in the evenings? I always have an MRC cocoa, one or two squares of ghirardelli dark chocolate, and an 80-cal vanilla yogurt for my evening snack (about 8pm or so). It's a treat that I look forward to (which keeps me from splurging on other stuff during the day, because then I can't have my evening snack), and it keeps me from feeling hungry or deprived in the evenings.

Going4Fit
03-13-2013, 12:26 PM
Okay now i'm starting to struggle, i'm up 7 lbs geez, this is hard, i do so well during the days of the week, the nights i feel so hungry after dinner and the weekends wow. I just wish i could go back to when i started MRC and didn't have all the cravings, why can't we keep our brains in that mode!!! :mad:

Do you have a plan? Remember, we are in caloric burn mode now that we have gone through stabilization and are in maintenance. So the way to think now is a pound equals 3500 calories. You need to create a calorie deficit every day to start shedding those extra pounds. You can simply cut some calories every day, how many is up to you, but keep your total above 1200 calories. And if you want to be sure to maintain muscle and get cravings under control, then be sure the calories you cut come from carbs, not protein. And of course you know another way to create a calorie deficit is by adding or upping your exercise. It's going to be slower weight loss this way, but remember this is a lifestyle, not a diet, and there's no need to go to extremes anymore.

I've only been doing this a month, but so far what I've found that works for me is like teacherlady: I save calories at the end of each day for a bedtime snack. For me, I've been saving about 300 calories. That leaves me plenty of options for a whole mini-meal, really, and I get a lot of satisfaction thinking about how I'm going to "spend" those calories at the end of the night. But I have to be careful to eat lean and healthy during the day, because it's surprisingly easy to eat up an extra 300 calories over the course of the day otherwise.

This is where the way we learned to eat on green menu comes in handy - if I eat the same kinds of things I ate while still on plan (minus the HNS's), I've found that most meals are about 300 calories, or only take a bit of tweaking to be at 300 calories. Breakfast, lunch and dinner at 300 calories = 900 calories, which leaves 300 calories for a bedtime snack and drops you clear down to the 1200 calorie minimum.

This method also puts you right at the range of eating 80% clean that the center recommends (75% clean if you use the entire remaining 300 calories for a treat). I like to use about half the 300 calories for a treat and half for a protein/carb snack combination. I've found several ways to do this. For the treat: an MRC pudding, a lean protein dessert shake like the Shamrock shake I posted earlier, a Cadbury Creme egg, a FiberOne bar (or any of the MRC meal replacement bars), a microwave mug cake, or a SkinnyCow ice cream sandwich just to name a few. For the remaining calories: fruit and cheese, PB2 on a low-cal tortilla or with pretzels, cheese and pretzels or a quesadilla made with cheese and a low-cal tortilla. Jerky and cheese or jerky with fruit. I really like the mini babybel lite cheese's - just let them get to room temperature then they are so rich and creamy and only 50 calories.

Of course it's fun to splurge the whole 300 calories on just a treat every now and then too!

Then the important part - go to bed! The longer I stay up past my bedtime, the more likely I am to lose control and start sneaking back into the pantry for more, and when it's late and I step on that slippery slope when no one's looking (because they've all gone to bed), I always fall.

Tamikl
03-13-2013, 06:24 PM
Hello ladies:)

Great tips for sure. A plan does work, it is sticking to the plan that is the challenge some days.

I had a WI today and maintained...so all is well at the moment.

I am sorry for the struggles I see some facing. This process IS hard, and maintenance is, too. If it helps, know that I understand and relate very much. Some days are better than others, but this new lifestyle will be challenging....but worth it. WE are worth every effort!

I told my counselor today that her putting my back on the Green menu would feel like punishment or a time out...seriously. I am so done with that, but it certainly makes sense that if we need to lose a little bit, that menu would be a good guide.

I know now why I did the 30 day magic plan...to learn from it that I will never allow myself to mess up so much to have to do it again!!

dkdaisybutters
03-14-2013, 10:55 PM
My fiance took my food scale on the road with him for the time being. I went and bought another one because I figured we'd still be weighing things on stabilization and maintenance but I'll return it if I don't need it. I am not sure, do you guys still weigh things or can I get by without it when I hit stabilization?

Going4Fit
03-14-2013, 11:51 PM
On maintenance you're counting calories, but you need to know portions to count calories so I absolutely still weigh things! It's the best way for me to ensure I'm getting the correct portions. It's just become a way of life for me.

I use my scale for baking too, especially bread baking, as it's faster and more accurate to weigh flour then scooping.

skelley331
03-15-2013, 01:15 PM
Do you have a plan? Remember, we are in caloric burn mode now that we have gone through stabilization and are in maintenance. So the way to think now is a pound equals 3500 calories. You need to create a calorie deficit every day to start shedding those extra pounds. You can simply cut some calories every day, how many is up to you, but keep your total above 1200 calories. And if you want to be sure to maintain muscle and get cravings under control, then be sure the calories you cut come from carbs, not protein. And of course you know another way to create a calorie deficit is by adding or upping your exercise. It's going to be slower weight loss this way, but remember this is a lifestyle, not a diet, and there's no need to go to extremes anymore.

I've only been doing this a month, but so far what I've found that works for me is like teacherlady: I save calories at the end of each day for a bedtime snack. For me, I've been saving about 300 calories. That leaves me plenty of options for a whole mini-meal, really, and I get a lot of satisfaction thinking about how I'm going to "spend" those calories at the end of the night. But I have to be careful to eat lean and healthy during the day, because it's surprisingly easy to eat up an extra 300 calories over the course of the day otherwise.

This is where the way we learned to eat on green menu comes in handy - if I eat the same kinds of things I ate while still on plan (minus the HNS's), I've found that most meals are about 300 calories, or only take a bit of tweaking to be at 300 calories. Breakfast, lunch and dinner at 300 calories = 900 calories, which leaves 300 calories for a bedtime snack and drops you clear down to the 1200 calorie minimum.

This method also puts you right at the range of eating 80% clean that the center recommends (75% clean if you use the entire remaining 300 calories for a treat). I like to use about half the 300 calories for a treat and half for a protein/carb snack combination. I've found several ways to do this. For the treat: an MRC pudding, a lean protein dessert shake like the Shamrock shake I posted earlier, a Cadbury Creme egg, a FiberOne bar (or any of the MRC meal replacement bars), a microwave mug cake, or a SkinnyCow ice cream sandwich just to name a few. For the remaining calories: fruit and cheese, PB2 on a low-cal tortilla or with pretzels, cheese and pretzels or a quesadilla made with cheese and a low-cal tortilla. Jerky and cheese or jerky with fruit. I really like the mini babybel lite cheese's - just let them get to room temperature then they are so rich and creamy and only 50 calories.

Of course it's fun to splurge the whole 300 calories on just a treat every now and then too!

Then the important part - go to bed! The longer I stay up past my bedtime, the more likely I am to lose control and start sneaking back into the pantry for more, and when it's late and I step on that slippery slope when no one's looking (because they've all gone to bed), I always fall.

Thanks for all the good information: My center has me on 1300 calories a day and the maintenance food list she gave me to follow was just so much food, I have found that using myfitnesspal helps me alot, but i get so tired of eating the same foods over and over and over. I've been on maintenance since jan 4th and i flucuate between 4-5lbs but have never gone over so that's a good thing, but i also believe once the weather breaks and i can get outside and do some yard work or gardening will be a big plus, i'm so active outside in the summer plus we go camping alot and when it's hot outside i love eating fresh fruit, salads,etc so it will be easier i'm sure. :carrot:

teacherlady79
03-15-2013, 01:43 PM
My fiance took my food scale on the road with him for the time being. I went and bought another one because I figured we'd still be weighing things on stabilization and maintenance but I'll return it if I don't need it. I am not sure, do you guys still weigh things or can I get by without it when I hit stabilization?

I absolutely still weigh and measure my portions. Occasionally I'll eyeball it (if I'm in a hurry, or at someone else's house), but when I eyeball it and then weigh it, I have found that I still tend to serve myself bigger portions than I need/am supposed to have.

dkdaisybutters
03-16-2013, 02:05 PM
Thank you guys!I went in today and I hit my goal so now I can start on Transition(stabilization but now they call it transition at my center). I have the choice to start transition now or wait till the 25th, which is the transition party. What would you guys do? I lost 4 1/2 lbs this week, should I wait or just keep losing till the 25th? I know I could lose OR gain on transition.

Going4Fit
03-16-2013, 07:11 PM
dkdaisybutters, it's up to you. Nothing special happens at the transition party that's going to make you wish you'd waited for the party to start. If you're satisfied with where you're at, you may as well start now. I did continue to lose through transition.

teacherlady79
03-17-2013, 12:37 PM
dkdaisybutters, it's up to you. Nothing special happens at the transition party that's going to make you wish you'd waited for the party to start. If you're satisfied with where you're at, you may as well start now. I did continue to lose through transition.

^^Ditto this. Same here. :)

dkdaisybutters
03-17-2013, 04:31 PM
Thank you guys! I think I will wait till the 25th just because I might as well lose some more weight (I have some stomach left and I want to try to get it flatter)and not change anything since I am actually losing it good now. Soon, I will be on this board along with you amazing gals!

skelley331
03-17-2013, 06:46 PM
How long does maintenance last does anyone know, i guess i'll check with my center this week. I haven't been to weigh in for two weeks, going this thursday, getting tired of going in to weigh in. I've been doing pretty good maintaining, up 4lbs down 4lbs, goes back and forth depending on what i eat. I have noticed i've gained back some inches but i can see how that can happen since they add so much food back in. Glad everyone is doing so well!! Keep up the good work. :carrot:

Tamikl
03-17-2013, 06:57 PM
My Maintenance program lasted 1 year. Beyond that, you pay to add more time. I like it because the weekly check ins really hold me accountable. At the moment, I go in every other week...in the beginning it was about having a good WI..so doing this frequently kept me in check. Now a days it is more about showing my counselor that I have a handle on it. The WI is all about making "Tami" happy daily, rather than my coach each WI...if that makes sense. I used to have my fun until 2 or so days before a WI, then really tighten up for it. Obviously, that wasn't the mental mind set that I needed to have.:( You really need to want it for YOU.

As far as deciding whether or not to continue to lose weight until you officially start stabilization...YES..I would say get down as low as you can before you begin adding items back. Noone ever seems to complain about having some wiggle room on the scale!

I have about a 4lb "wiggle room" allowance for myself. Once I am at the high end, I spend a couple days getting back down..then resume my maintenance. I have decided if I stick with this, I should be able to successfully maintain. But I HAVE to lose it if I gain it..not put those few pounds off for another day, because they will add up.

Well, off for now. Until next time! Everyone keep up the good work.

skelley331
03-17-2013, 09:59 PM
Thanks Tamikl, I've been going in about every two weeks also, they gave me 6lbs for wiggle room, and like you if i gain i lose it right away. It's just that sometimes i get busy and it's hard to get in to WI, but thanks for the response, it will be a year july 13 that i started MRC and then i started on maintenance on jan 4th, so i wasn't sure if the year was from your original start date or your maintenance date. But good advice and thank you. :)

Tamikl
03-17-2013, 11:40 PM
Thanks Tamikl, I've been going in about every two weeks also, they gave me 6lbs for wiggle room, and like you if i gain i lose it right away. It's just that sometimes i get busy and it's hard to get in to WI, but thanks for the response, it will be a year july 13 that i started MRC and then i started on maintenance on jan 4th, so i wasn't sure if the year was from your original start date or your maintenance date. But good advice and thank you. :)


A year from the day you start Maintenance:) They run specials around Christmas time each year, too...so if you feel like you might want to add some time, wait until then. I added 1 year of Maintenance for $69 over Christmas.

Also, you are welcome...we all try to be support on here and I think we all can relate to struggles. You are not in the journey totally alone! Doesn't mean it still isn't hard sometimes. Hang in there!

skelley331
03-19-2013, 12:30 PM
A year from the day you start Maintenance:) They run specials around Christmas time each year, too...so if you feel like you might want to add some time, wait until then. I added 1 year of Maintenance for $69 over Christmas.

Also, you are welcome...we all try to be support on here and I think we all can relate to struggles. You are not in the journey totally alone! Doesn't mean it still isn't hard sometimes. Hang in there!

Oh wow a year from maintenance day? I'm not sure i can keep going for another year, i'm really down today, i've gained 6lbs ouch!! I can't get a grip on this 1300 calorie a day menu. I feel like i did right before i went to MRC to sign up, all the cravings for carbs are back, I've tried going back to the green menu or pre-conditioning but for what to end up the same place i'm at now, it's like all the other diets or life changing plans, you go and spend the $$ and then bam, it all changes, i don't know what's gotten into me? I did WW lost 32 lbs then i get bored eating the same thing over and over and over!! Its the same with MRC, when i started the plan i had no cravings at all then when i got to the green menu my weight was staying pretty steady but i am so sick of salads, fish, turkey, chicken, broccoli, brussel sprouts!!! I go thursday to see my counselor so i'm not sure what will happen or what she will tell me!!! :(

faerychic
03-19-2013, 12:54 PM
Oh wow a year from maintenance day? I'm not sure i can keep going for another year, i'm really down today, i've gained 6lbs ouch!! I can't get a grip on this 1300 calorie a day menu. I feel like i did right before i went to MRC to sign up, all the cravings for carbs are back, I've tried going back to the green menu or pre-conditioning but for what to end up the same place i'm at now, it's like all the other diets or life changing plans, you go and spend the $$ and then bam, it all changes, i don't know what's gotten into me? I did WW lost 32 lbs then i get bored eating the same thing over and over and over!! Its the same with MRC, when i started the plan i had no cravings at all then when i got to the green menu my weight was staying pretty steady but i am so sick of salads, fish, turkey, chicken, broccoli, brussel sprouts!!! I go thursday to see my counselor so i'm not sure what will happen or what she will tell me!!! :(

Skelley - I feel you pain........I am in the same place as you - so, so, so sick of eating the same foods. I did another diet plan back in 2007 that was very similar to MRC (Slim4Life - I think it is called Slimgenics now). Same thing, lost the weight - got sick of eating the same foods and gained most of it back. I have not been back to the center in a while and I am up 7 pounds from my lowest weight. I am trying to find my motivation to get rid of the 7 pounds before it turns into 14! I struggled through the weight loss period so I know it's not going to be easy. Anyway, hope you get some good advice from your counselor on your next visit.

Tamikl
03-19-2013, 01:10 PM
Oh my goodness, ladies! We have got to get you motivated to get back on track again:) Your struggles are precisely why I began something a little different for myself. Same foods, different day, made cravings even worse, etc...The WW point system is helpful for Maintenance. There isn't a limit on WHAT you can eat...just how much. I still try to lean on the side of higher protein in my daily diet, but if I want a PBJ, I have one!

My cravings have subsided...I still have days..PMS time mainly, but now that I don't limit my variety so much, I don't feel deprived, which has helped with the cravings. We all want what we can't or shouldn't have. That is human nature.

Now, I am not saying that what I am doing will work for everyone...but your struggles sound so similar to mine, and what I am now doing is helping....not perfect, but doable. That is the key here...needs to be something realistic that you feel you can live the rest of your life doing. Cutting out all carbs, sweets, etc...forever isn't realistic. But everything in moderation is a must to keep our weight issues under control.

I relate to the doom and gloom of having to go back to Green menu or Pre-conditioning menu. But if I allow myself to get my weight out of hand, I have to do whatever is necessary to get back on track...If I don't allow myself to get above a 3-4lb gain, then I never have so much to lose that it is overwhelming for me.

I could go on forever, and I so desire to see us all succeed, but bottom line is it being important on a personal level first..then actions will follow.

Hang in there...don't give up!

patzi
03-19-2013, 01:15 PM
Hi Everyone...

I weighed in and lost 1/2pound finally bringing me to be able to maintain the 5 under goal I had set for myself. Big on going struggle, but I don't want to get back to where I was, that is for sure.

I did not get weighed in for two weeks, as I just needed a breather from them.

I will now go and read everyone's messages as I have not been on for a couple of weeks.

Patzi

patzi
03-19-2013, 01:19 PM
Tami..
Do you go by the older WW points,or do you have the new system.. I took that out the other day as I was on WW for a long time.

My friend who is on maintenance from MRC uses WW points for her maintenance, and it is working out very well.

Patzi

Tamikl
03-19-2013, 01:24 PM
Tami..
Do you go by the older WW points,or do you have the new system.. I took that out the other day as I was on WW for a long time.

My friend who is on maintenance from MRC uses WW points for her maintenance, and it is working out very well.

Patzi

I use the old system:)

skelley331
03-19-2013, 01:49 PM
I might give that a try, i did WW before also and lost 32 lbs, on MRC i never reached my goal weight but my body pretty much said enough so I just went into stablization, i'm 57 yrs old and i very active in the summer, they have me on 1300 calories a day i always seem to go over. What calories a day does everyone have?

skelley331
03-19-2013, 01:50 PM
Skelley - I feel you pain........I am in the same place as you - so, so, so sick of eating the same foods. I did another diet plan back in 2007 that was very similar to MRC (Slim4Life - I think it is called Slimgenics now). Same thing, lost the weight - got sick of eating the same foods and gained most of it back. I have not been back to the center in a while and I am up 7 pounds from my lowest weight. I am trying to find my motivation to get rid of the 7 pounds before it turns into 14! I struggled through the weight loss period so I know it's not going to be easy. Anyway, hope you get some good advice from your counselor on your next visit.

faerychic: Yes that's what i'm afraid of if i don't get control that my 6lbs will turn to 12 lbs, its at night and weekends that i'm at my worst, during the day i do so well!!!

rwquilts
03-19-2013, 06:39 PM
I went through a week or so of eating sweets, ice cream cake at work and an apple pie that a friend brought over for my husband. I just had little pieces but a little piece every day adds up. I put on 3 lbs but I'm still 5 lbs under my goal. Lots of salads and fish for me this week.

Going4Fit
03-20-2013, 02:32 AM
skelley331, I'm not sure if your center is helping you much...? You're in maintenance now - you can eat whatever you want! No need to be sick of eating the same old foods. Just keep it in your calorie range. (And to answer your question, they started me at 1200 calories, then increased it to 1300, then 1500). I mean obviously your calories will go further with leaner and healthier choices, but it's still up to you. My center just advises to keep it about 80% lean. Or one counselor advises following a "dirty" day by at least two "clean" days.

My advice earlier was about how to lose weight on maintenance - going down to 1200 calories and using the green menu for your main meals so you could also enjoy snacks and treats midday and at night. No need to live that way if not trying to lose. I've started slowly but have added a wide variety of foods to my diet already. What kinds of things did you eat before? I have a cookbook I cooked from frequently before joining MRC. All of the recipes have the nutrition facts. I've started cooking from it again and just watch the portions so I can keep in my calorie range.

skelley331
03-20-2013, 05:50 PM
skelley331, I'm not sure if your center is helping you much...? You're in maintenance now - you can eat whatever you want! No need to be sick of eating the same old foods. Just keep it in your calorie range. (And to answer your question, they started me at 1200 calories, then increased it to 1300, then 1500). I mean obviously your calories will go further with leaner and healthier choices, but it's still up to you. My center just advises to keep it about 80% lean. Or one counselor advises following a "dirty" day by at least two "clean" days.

My advice earlier was about how to lose weight on maintenance - going down to 1200 calories and using the green menu for your main meals so you could also enjoy snacks and treats midday and at night. No need to live that way if not trying to lose. I've started slowly but have added a wide variety of foods to my diet already. What kinds of things did you eat before? I have a cookbook I cooked from frequently before joining MRC. All of the recipes have the nutrition facts. I've started cooking from it again and just watch the portions so I can keep in my calorie range.

going4fit: They still have me fill out a food journal and my center gave me a maintenance menu to choose from. I've been pretty much eating 80% lean during the day and week, it's the nights and weekends where i seem to have the problem, it seems at night i'm so hungry: Here is a example of what I eat:
Breakfast: 1c plain cheerios, 1/2c skim milk, 1/2 banana, and for protein i usually eat one egg or will have a protein shake
Lunch: Salad, cottage cheese, strawberries
Dinner: grilled tilapia, 1c steamed vegetable, melba toast

This is what i'm suppose to go by:
The snack is suppose to be 100 calorie or less (then they gave me a list of foods to choose from)
BREAKFAST LUNCH DINNER
DAY PROTEIN PROTEIN PROTEIN
FRUIT FRUIT VEGETABLE
DAIRY VEGETABLE
STARCH STARCH STARCH
SNACK SNACK SNACK

If i'm on maintenance why do i have to still show them my food journal? I feel guilty if i put on there that i ate at the olive garden?

lovetofishandrun
03-20-2013, 09:17 PM
I've been on maintenance since October. Gained 5 lbs Jan/Feb but got them off at last weeks weigh-in. My center told me that if I wanted to bring in food journal they would look at it but I haven't done that since my first month on maintenance.

If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you

skelley331
03-20-2013, 10:17 PM
I've been on maintenance since October. Gained 5 lbs Jan/Feb but got them off at last weeks weigh-in. My center told me that if I wanted to bring in food journal they would look at it but I haven't done that since my first month on maintenance.

If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you

Loveofishandrun: thanks for posting, i was wondering why i still had to bring in my food journal when i was on maintenance, i go tomorrow to weigh in so i think i'll leave my food journal at home and see what my counselor says. I'm only 1.5 lbs above my goal and i know tomorrow i should be back at my goal weight, when i go weigh in at the center i'm always up by 1-1.5 lbs from my scales at home, i go by my home scales anyway. thanks again:carrot:

Tamikl
03-20-2013, 10:45 PM
For what it is worth..I think the food journal is a good idea regardless of what stage we are in. It really helps me stay accountable, and also helps me to identify why a gain may have happened. No embarrassment about what or where I eat...just a way to daily face the truth about what I am putting in my mouth. This simple effort could help to identify patterns (healthy and unhealthy), etc...and I believe will be important in maintaining my weight for the long haul. I guess I don't see it as doing it for MRC anymore...and have no problem sharing it with my counselor. In fact, she gets some darn good meal ideas from me sometimes!! LOL

skelley331
03-20-2013, 10:49 PM
For what it is worth..I think the food journal is a good idea regardless of what stage we are in. It really helps me stay accountable, and also helps me to identify why a gain may have happened. No embarrassment about what or where I eat...just a way to daily face the truth about what I am putting in my mouth. This simple effort could help to identify patterns (healthy and unhealthy), etc...and I believe will be important in maintaining my weight for the long haul. I guess I don't see it as doing it for MRC anymore...and have no problem sharing it with my counselor. In fact, she gets some darn good meal ideas from me sometimes!! LOL

did you get a MRC Maintenance Menu - Smart Selections when you started maintenance?

Tamikl
03-20-2013, 10:53 PM
did you get a MRC Maintenance Menu - Smart Selections when you started maintenance?

No specific menu...just handouts of different calorie goals and how many servings per day of various foods...along with some calories of foods. Heck, I was hung out to dry is how I felt...went straight from complete structure to freedom to choose whatever and it made my personal transition feel pretty unorganized.

rwquilts
03-20-2013, 11:03 PM
No specific menu...just handouts of different calorie goals and how many servings per day of various foods...along with some calories of foods. Heck, I was hung out to dry is how I felt...went straight from complete structure to freedom to choose whatever and it made my personal transition feel pretty unorganized.

That was me too, although I didn't get any handouts. I haven't actually been in to my center in over 2 months. I'm still 6-8 lbs under my goal so I don't feel like I need to and they haven't contacted me. I did learn a lot and I know what u can eat and how much.

faerychic
03-21-2013, 01:05 PM
No specific menu...just handouts of different calorie goals and how many servings per day of various foods...along with some calories of foods. Heck, I was hung out to dry is how I felt...went straight from complete structure to freedom to choose whatever and it made my personal transition feel pretty unorganized.

I felt the same.............hung out to dry! When I started maintenance I actually would bring my food journal in and the counselors would not look at them. I was given 2 maintenance food lists, one for 1200 calories and one for 1500 and told to eat some where in between them.

skelley331
03-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Okay so i go in to my center today and weigh in, and guess what? I'm maintaining yeah!!! I really do like my counselor she really understands me. I think i'm finally getting it in my head that i'm not there to weigh in to lose but to maintain, it has taken me awhile to get out of that mode. I do feel great and now i'm motivated. She told me that i didn't have to bring in my food journal, she said that i was doing great. Finally i feel like i'm actually free!!! I am going to continue to go to my center to weigh in but i only go every two weeks. Thank you to everyone for all your support and now i officially feel like a maintainer!!! :carrot::carrot::carrot:

skelley331
03-21-2013, 05:47 PM
And oh i forgot that my counselor did tell me i was free to eat whatever i wanted within my 1300 calorie range but they do suggest eating 80% clean and to just be smart about my choices. YAHOO!!! :cp: I never want to go back to where i was, i eat really good thru the week and most of the part on weekends, but now at least i don't have to feel guilty if i want a small bowl of carb smart ice cream!!

Tamikl
03-21-2013, 07:46 PM
How exciting for you!! I go in every 2 weeks also. So far it is working.
By the way, now that we are all doing Maintenance and need to stay within a certain calorie range, do most of those calories need to come from protein sources? I know lean...but what should our daily percentage of fat, protein, and carbs be now?? While we were losing, it was 60/20/20...with protein being higher percentage of course.
I just wondered if it makes a difference now or if most important is calories now regardless of where they come from. Anyone?

skelley331
03-21-2013, 09:44 PM
How exciting for you!! I go in every 2 weeks also. So far it is working.
By the way, now that we are all doing Maintenance and need to stay within a certain calorie range, do most of those calories need to come from protein sources? I know lean...but what should our daily percentage of fat, protein, and carbs be now?? While we were losing, it was 60/20/20...with protein being higher percentage of course.
I just wondered if it makes a difference now or if most important is calories now regardless of where they come from. Anyone?

Tamikl: Oh that's a good question, maybe i'll call my center tomorrow and ask, i record all my foods on myfitnesspal.com and it has me at 55/30/15
which is carbs/fat/protein but i do more protein, less fat and carbs, if i eat too many carbs i tend to gain a little. I try and stay around 100 grams a day for protein and 25-30grams of carbs!

dkdaisybutters
03-26-2013, 08:51 PM
Woot Woot!Passed my goal and I now weigh 142 and have been on transitioning for 2 days. I have missed bananas! lol They gave us a preview of maintenance and I didn't realize we got a list of how much carbs, protein, fats etc. we should eat in a day along with a list of foods to try to stick with. They said that obviously we will ask to add foods in which is fine or 'cheat' every once in a while, it is your world now. As long as you don't make the bad things a habbit. They said stuff like try to not make a cookie a habbit at night because pretty soon it turns into I want a cookie at night to I NEED a cookie or snack at night. If we start gaining weight though we will have to see if that food is causing it that we added in. I like this because I know that if they just said eat 1200 cals. in and out I would go wild! They also drew a diagram with a circle on the board of what your plate should look like with the fats, proteins, complex carbs, and simple carbs. I am glad I have some idea of what it is going to be like now. I used to get confused with what some of you guys were saying and different views on the maintenance thing but I guess the centers probably do it differently. Anyway,I am learning so much through this program!!

Going4Fit
03-29-2013, 04:50 AM
dkdaisybutters, I was fretting over maintenance too and finally one counselor told me that maintenance can be as structured or as loose as I want/need it to be. That helped me. I didn't get the plate drawing you're talking about. Sounds like you're getting some good guidance to get you on a nice start.

Not only do different centers handle maintenance differently, different counselors handle it differently within the same centers. I have one counselor who does nothing but weigh me and ask if I need anything. I have another who sits me down, wants to know what different things I've been eating, cravings I've been struggling with, challenges me to increase my calories or to try eating out this week, etc. Huge difference between the two.

Tamikl
03-30-2013, 05:59 PM
Happy Saturday ladies:)

Well, just checking in. I have been sick the past couple of days and haven't been in a very long time. I am now assuming that you can gain weight with a bacterial infection...true??

Otherwise I am doing well. Still just plucking along and being careful. I feel sad that many of you aren't really posting lately on this forum. I personally could use the support and rather enjoy connecting with you all! So nice to know we are not alone...and everyone's tips, encouragement, etc..is priceless to me. Please post no matter what is going on...we can help eachother!

Well, I have decided that Easter should be rather easy. Don't eat chocolate and fill up on eggs!!

I hope everyone has a nice Easter:))

rwquilts
03-30-2013, 08:13 PM
I was up 3 lbs and held that for almost a week. I had to be very strict with myself before popping something in my mouth for a couple days to get back with the program. I also ate fish 2 evenings in a row and this morning 2 of those pounds are gone. It's really sad how fast an occasional treat can become a regular one and my body isn't happy when they become the norm. It's good to know how to get those couple of lbs off. I'm still 8 lbs under my goal so I'm happy. Have a happy Easter and be careful with the candy!

dkdaisybutters
03-31-2013, 09:17 AM
Keep up the good work Tamikl and rwquilts!I agree we should post here more often!!Going4fit thanks for explaining that, that makes sense that different counselors have different views. I am so excited, I will be on maintenance in two weeks!Today was the first day of adding back milk. Gotta say I haven't really missed it that much, I bought some almond milk also. I haven't tried it yet, do any of you drink that? I tried to find some sugar free fat free frozen yogurt but I couldn't find it anywhere! Does someone know where to get that? I found fat free but not both sugar and fat free, I don't even know if they make it?? Does anybody know what week three is I am curios as to what I can bring back next?! Hope everyone is having a happy Easter. I am not with family this year so no temptations. For those of you who are around temptations today good luck to you, and remember it probably isn't as good as it looks!

patzi
03-31-2013, 11:46 AM
Happy Easter, Everyone.. I will weigh in Tuesday and be back then.

Tami.. I gained weight when I had a bacterial infection, as I did not feel like eating, and ate whatever I could get down.

Patzi

Going4Fit
03-31-2013, 02:36 PM
...Today was the first day of adding back milk. Gotta say I haven't really missed it that much, I bought some almond milk also. I haven't tried it yet, do any of you drink that? I tried to find some sugar free fat free frozen yogurt but I couldn't find it anywhere! Does someone know where to get that? I found fat free but not both sugar and fat free, I don't even know if they make it??...

Milk was my least favorite thing to add back on stabilization. (#1 favorite - peanut butter!!!). I had already been an almond milk user since going completely dairy free for my newborn, since I nursed him and he seemed to have a dairy allergy. Anyway, I tried real milk just to play by the rules, but am back to my almond milk now that I'm on my own. Only thing is, the non-dairy milks hardly have any protein (1 gram), but us MRC'ers have all kinds of other ways to get protein. I don't like to drink it plain, but have no problem with it in cereals, oatmeal, shakes, smoothies, baking, etc. My kids don't notice it that way either. I buy the unsweetened vanilla flavor. Another bonus is you can buy it in shelf stable packs to store extras in the pantry, so no running to the store when you're almost out.

I'll admit to doing a rather obsessive search for the s.f., f.f. frozen yogurt and also came up empty. And there were other things on the list that I couldn't find too, or if I did, they were more calories than the list allowed (pudding, for example). Would be nice if some of the counselors took some initiative and tried shopping from those lists themselves.

Great job on your journey! Oh, and I am hesitant to give away menu information on-line since it's copyrighted. You can always ask your counselor for the next weeks stabilization menu ahead of time.

Going4Fit
03-31-2013, 03:16 PM
Ladies, I'm struggling. I'm lucky to have started a six week women's mentorship program through my church where older ladies put together a luncheon, combined with a cooking class and a lesson from an accompanying book for those of us who are still raising children. It's a time of fellowship, relaxation, and pampering from being served by the older ladies, with no kiddos allowed. The food is served in generous portions, there are open platters of fruit and pastries and things in the morning, and of course there is a dessert following the lunch. The lessons have been excellent and much needed, and I've learned some cooking tricks and techniques.

However, eating unknown calories is extremely difficult for me - I very much right now need to be in control and I struggle greatly with the "in for a penny, in for a pound" mentality, in where if I go off plan, I feel like I may as well give in for the day and eat whatever I want. For me, I can't then turn it back off that quickly. The first week of the program I came home and got discouraged trying to figure out how many calories the lunch was. I gave up and began eating and ended up binge eating for four days before I got back in control. That was 2 1/2 weeks ago and I'm still up six pounds from the damage I did.

The second week they still hadn't provided the nutrition information I'd requested, so I just nibbled at my lunch and didn't go off plan, but was still worried that maybe I didn't eat enough that day (don't want to harm my body). So I asked to be given the recipes ahead of time so I could calculate them myself. Told them I have no restrictions, don't need any special treatment (other gals there are vegetarian or have allergy restrictions), I just need to count the cost. When I followed up on that the third week, I was told I look fine and need to relax.

:mad: I know they meant it as a compliment. People who aren't addicts, who don't know my history, they don't understand. I wish people could realize how hurtful that kind of remark is. Being careful with what I eat doesn't mean I'm trying to get skinnier. Don't people know that you have to be careful in order to maintain a certain weight too?

I haven't weighed in at the center in three weeks now since I'm so far up. I haven't missed any of my workouts either, but I did have another day of binge eating after that hurtful comment set me off, which is going to set me back another week or two. I can't blame others, only myself. Wish I didn't have so many triggers. I know the damage can be undone, but am frustrated that each off day for me (since I binge and can eat thousands of calories in a single day) takes two weeks of being good to undo.

Sorry for the sad post. I can do this. I'm just sad I screwed up so badly after such a good start.

dkdaisybutters
04-01-2013, 12:07 AM
Milk was my least favorite thing to add back on stabilization. (#1 favorite - peanut butter!!!). I had already been an almond milk user since going completely dairy free for my newborn, since I nursed him and he seemed to have a dairy allergy. Anyway, I tried real milk just to play by the rules, but am back to my almond milk now that I'm on my own. Only thing is, the non-dairy milks hardly have any protein (1 gram), but us MRC'ers have all kinds of other ways to get protein. I don't like to drink it plain, but have no problem with it in cereals, oatmeal, shakes, smoothies, baking, etc. My kids don't notice it that way either. I buy the unsweetened vanilla flavor. Another bonus is you can buy it in shelf stable packs to store extras in the pantry, so no running to the store when you're almost out.

I'll admit to doing a rather obsessive search for the s.f., f.f. frozen yogurt and also came up empty. And there were other things on the list that I couldn't find too, or if I did, they were more calories than the list allowed (pudding, for example). Would be nice if some of the counselors took some initiative and tried shopping from those lists themselves.

Great job on your journey! Oh, and I am hesitant to give away menu information on-line since it's copyrighted. You can always ask your counselor for the next weeks stabilization menu ahead of time.

They say we can have almond, soy, coconut, flax, and hemp milk. I bought the unsweetened vanilla too. I know I sometimes think how in the heck did they find these things themselves? ha whatever I guess Ill give up on the frozen yogurt. I forgot about the menu thing you are right, I will find out tomorrow. I did, however, find the pudding so that will be a nice treat instead of just plain milk. Thanks for all you guys insight!

Keylani
04-01-2013, 11:32 AM
Ladies, I'm struggling. I'm lucky to have started a six week women's mentorship program through my church where older ladies put together a luncheon, combined with a cooking class and a lesson from an accompanying book for those of us who are still raising children. It's a time of fellowship, relaxation, and pampering from being served by the older ladies, with no kiddos allowed. The food is served in generous portions, there are open platters of fruit and pastries and things in the morning, and of course there is a dessert following the lunch. The lessons have been excellent and much needed, and I've learned some cooking tricks and techniques.

However, eating unknown calories is extremely difficult for me - I very much right now need to be in control and I struggle greatly with the "in for a penny, in for a pound" mentality, in where if I go off plan, I feel like I may as well give in for the day and eat whatever I want. For me, I can't then turn it back off that quickly. The first week of the program I came home and got discouraged trying to figure out how many calories the lunch was. I gave up and began eating and ended up binge eating for four days before I got back in control. That was 2 1/2 weeks ago and I'm still up six pounds from the damage I did.

The second week they still hadn't provided the nutrition information I'd requested, so I just nibbled at my lunch and didn't go off plan, but was still worried that maybe I didn't eat enough that day (don't want to harm my body). So I asked to be given the recipes ahead of time so I could calculate them myself. Told them I have no restrictions, don't need any special treatment (other gals there are vegetarian or have allergy restrictions), I just need to count the cost. When I followed up on that the third week, I was told I look fine and need to relax.

:mad: I know they meant it as a compliment. People who aren't addicts, who don't know my history, they don't understand. I wish people could realize how hurtful that kind of remark is. Being careful with what I eat doesn't mean I'm trying to get skinnier. Don't people know that you have to be careful in order to maintain a certain weight too?

I haven't weighed in at the center in three weeks now since I'm so far up. I haven't missed any of my workouts either, but I did have another day of binge eating after that hurtful comment set me off, which is going to set me back another week or two. I can't blame others, only myself. Wish I didn't have so many triggers. I know the damage can be undone, but am frustrated that each off day for me (since I binge and can eat thousands of calories in a single day) takes two weeks of being good to undo.

Sorry for the sad post. I can do this. I'm just sad I screwed up so badly after such a good start.

Your so right! People that have never had a food addiction have no clue what it's like. They don't understand. My counselor has never been over weight. I was opening up with my food addiction and she tried to compare it to an alcoholic. Going4Fit, I think you and I talked about this before...could be mistaken...but an alcoholic can avoid places that sell alcohol for the most part. We (food addicts) have to eat to live. UGH!! I feel your frustration. I've been struggling the last two months. Life is so different and maintaining is a booger!! My center recommended Over Eaters Anonymous meeting for the psychological part of my eating. There's a meeting tonight. I'm thinking about going.

I wish you luck...as well as everyone!! I'm so glad I have you gals!!

Going4Fit
04-01-2013, 12:28 PM
They say we can have almond, soy, coconut, flax, and hemp milk.
Yes I know - I just don't like those kinds of drinks straight and wasn't allowed to have cereal with breakfast yet to put it in, so I tried drinking the plain milk. Honestly, I ended up doing the flavored Dannon Light n' Fit yogurts that are 80 calories, and didn't bother counting them as 1/2 my fruit either and still lost weight through stabilization. (I absolutely can't stand plain yogurt.) I did find pudding that was under 100 calories but only the sugar free kind, and then looking at the stats it's all fake stuff with no nutritional value, so I didn't see the point. Anyway, it's only a few weeks to get through and then you can start making decisions purely on caloric value and it gets easier. You're doing great though, as you know. Good job!

Going4Fit
04-01-2013, 12:43 PM
Your so right! People that have never had a food addiction have no clue what it's like. They don't understand. My counselor has never been over weight. I was opening up with my food addiction and she tried to compare it to an alcoholic. Going4Fit, I think you and I talked about this before...could be mistaken...but an alcoholic can avoid places that sell alcohol for the most part. We (food addicts) have to eat to live. UGH!! I feel your frustration. I've been struggling the last two months. Life is so different and maintaining is a booger!! My center recommended Over Eaters Anonymous meeting for the psychological part of my eating. There's a meeting tonight. I'm thinking about going.

I wish you luck...as well as everyone!! I'm so glad I have you gals!!

It is very similar to being an alcoholic as far as thought process and behavior, so she's right there, but you're right - the difference is I can't give up eating altogether, and I can't even give up being around people who eat. And that's one of my problems - I resent being in situations where everyone is enjoying food and I feel like I can't. I know I've looked up Overeaters Anonymous before to see if there was a meeting in my area and didn't find anything. I'll have to look again. I hope you do go. Will you please pm me or post on here about what it's like? I'm really curious about the physical make-up of the group - like if there are successful people there who've gotten the weight off and continue to attend for support. I get tired of people looking at me (currently thin) and thinking I don't need help or assuming if I'm this thin and worried about weight I must have an eating disorder. Happened again yesterday at my Easter thing - mentioned seeing a mutual acquaintance at the gym and a gal said "And you are what, 4% body fat? So you go to the gym because...??" *sigh*

I looked up another group that was suggested by a friend called PRISM, it's a weight loss support group for Christians. There's one in the next town over from me. I'm trying to get another friend to go with me.

lovetofishandrun
04-01-2013, 05:21 PM
Going4Fit - when I find myself in your position with the women's mentoring program, I load my plate with "allowed" food and might get a spoon or half a spoon of the other dishes - in other word, a bite. That way I don't offend anyone by not trying their dish and I don't have to explain why I didn't try it. Dispose of your plate as soon as you have eaten and drink lots of water.

bigdog
04-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Hello everyone! Hope you all had a great Easter weekend! Trying to get back on track... Been eating too much chocolate and need to start journaling for sure!
Working a lot and love my new job!! :)

confession. Completed. Will report in and will report a loss!!!! Promise! :)

dkdaisybutters
04-02-2013, 06:04 PM
Wierd question and kinda out of the blue but my turkey burgers are the jennio ones, it says stove top or grill but can I bake them???It seems easier and like I could fit more onto a cookie sheet instead of a pan on the stove. I don't see why not, what do you guys think?

patzi
04-02-2013, 08:49 PM
Big Dog...
Great to hear from you.. Please keep in touch and let us know how you are doing.. I am happy for you relative your new job.

I weighed in today and stayed the same, 5 pounds under goal. I decided to go every other week instead of weekly. We will see how that goes.

Patzi

camaswa
04-03-2013, 10:58 PM
Going4fit,
My opinion is that you ARE going to have to relax a bit. Put it in context: its one meal in how many? I'm not saying go wild and eat all their carbs and fat by any means, but asking them for the recipes in advance so you can calculate the calories is kind of extreme. Life is gonna hand you many situations like this, so why don't you consider this practice for the rest of your life? That is, be prepared. Eat protein before you go, pack hard boiled eggs or something similar. Scan the table for veggies and fruit and fill your plate with what you can. Keep a low profile. Go brush you teeth so you won't eat dessert. Whatever. Pull out all the tricks. You can do this.

Going4Fit
04-04-2013, 03:20 AM
Going4fit,
My opinion is that you ARE going to have to relax a bit. Put it in context: its one meal in how many? I'm not saying go wild and eat all their carbs and fat by any means, but asking them for the recipes in advance so you can calculate the calories is kind of extreme. Life is gonna hand you many situations like this, so why don't you consider this practice for the rest of your life? That is, be prepared. Eat protein before you go, pack hard boiled eggs or something similar. Scan the table for veggies and fruit and fill your plate with what you can. Keep a low profile. Go brush you teeth so you won't eat dessert. Whatever. Pull out all the tricks. You can do this.

I apparently didn't present the situation accurately. The lunch is not a buffet. We are served the meals and dessert with no choice involved as far as what we get or how much is given. I ignore the breakfast buffet. They do a cooking lesson first and give us the recipe so we can take notes. I discovered they've been preparing the same meals with the same lessons and recipe handouts for years, therefore it would be simple to give them to me in advance. Combine that with them insisting at the beginning of the program that they would accomodate any special dietary needs so that no one would go without eating while there and I don't think my request was extreme at all.

The program is hardly the point anyway. One meal a week off plan didn't used to break me (I used to bank points with WW so I could have an off day each week and I still would lose), and the program is only six meetings altogether anyway. I really don't think I was asking for advice on how to get through the program, but rather was seeking support for having slipped up so badly, in a place where I thought the difficulty of this journey would be understood. I'm just feeling very sad and lonely, and I guess a little tired.

camaswa
04-04-2013, 11:22 AM
Oh, I didn't quite get the situation, did I? Sorry. That is way harder just to have the food served to you, and yes, if they have been doing the same meals for years they should be able to give the recipes to you in advance. Gosh, what if a participant was allergic to something? What's more, I would like to think they are proud of your accomplishment and would want to support your efforts to maintain.


When you have been dieting as rigorously as MRC, it IS scary to re-enter the social world where so many people eat so crappy and in such quantities. And without support around you, it is so easy to go back to old habits. I'm very sorry those women don't recognize where you're at.

But in terms of "slipping up," I don't think you have a thing to feel bad about. You have lost an admirable amount of weight (I'm your same height and you are 30 pounds lighter than me!) and this is just one meal a week over six weeks. On a scale of slips, this would be such a teeny blip it would barely register. Heck, some plans even suggest a free meal a week!

Did you gain as a result of this meal? If so, were you able to get it back off? Maintenance is not a straight line, it's a constant course correction. Just look at Patzi. She has been maintaining for a long time - more than a year- and she is constantly monitoring and adjusting.

You really can do this :-)

PS. OA is a great program. I went for years. Like AA, the first step is to admit we are powerless and turn it over to a power greater than ourselves. I think it would complement your faith very nicely.

skelley331
04-04-2013, 11:56 AM
Well ladies I've been on maintenance since jan 4, 2013, I was doing pretty good until about 2-3 wks ago, seems like my hunger has gone crazy, I'm on a 1300 calorie a day menu from my center. I usually eat really good thru the day but at night I go crazy, then I will get it under control and then go crazy eating at night again. Maintenance is really hard!!! I've gained 5 lbs and can't seem to bring myself to go back to the green menu for three days, after eating the same foods over and over and can't do it again. Thanks for letting me vent, i'm hoping to get out of the slump. Just tired I guess. :(

Tamikl
04-04-2013, 06:20 PM
Hi ladies...

Well, I was up 2 lbs at my WI yesterday and if we were to weigh me today? Well, lets just say I would be up more:( Had an out to dinner celebration I attended last night...way too much bread and pasta. Went to bed feeling sick actually. Then got up, exercised, and met my dad for a "coffee" date and we hadn't eaten, so decided to share a breakfast burrito...it was HUGE! But did Tami have any trouble taking care of my half? Nope:( So here I am..a protein shake for lunch, Tilapia for dinner, and probably a creamy HNS for dessert later.

I understand the frustration of messing up and having to figure out how to fix it. I also understand spiraling out of control when I have messed up...it doesn't end up being that one little meal that was the problem....that choice can lead to further destruction if we aren't careful. We are not all the same people so I do think we need to be extra careful about minimizing the perceived challenges of someone's personal journey, along with watching that we don't make the mistake of comparing it to our own....so we now "get it." There is a difference between showing empathy and having all the answers:) On the other hand, we all mean well always...I believe that, too.

I need help...

What are some "tips" that everyone uses when they fall of the wagon...for getting back on track. For instance, what should my day tomorrow maybe look like after having had way too many calories last night and today short of starving myself? I want to get back on track...and I think if I could identify a 2-3 day meal plan that would help me to get there quick, that could be key to Maintenance. Any ideas that seem to work for anyone? I hate being told to go back to "GREEN MENU" I think I have developed an aversion to it!!

I have one idea...WATER, WATER, WATER....

What else?

camaswa
04-04-2013, 07:14 PM
"I understand the frustration of messing up and having to figure out how to fix it. I also understand spiraling out of control when I have messed up...it doesn't end up being that one little meal that was the problem....that choice can lead to further destruction if we aren't careful. We are not all the same people so I do think we need to be extra careful about minimizing the perceived challenges of someone's personal journey, along with watching that we don't make the mistake of comparing it to our own....so we now "get it." There is a difference between showing empathy and having all the answers On the other hand, we all mean well always...I believe that, too. "

I think Tami just might be referring to me. I'm sorry. Really. I have the utmost admiration for anyone who manages to stick with MRC. Or any diet, for that matter. And I have had my own share of anxiety and frustrations too. So if I have offended, please accept my apologies.

dkdaisybutters
04-04-2013, 10:06 PM
I need help...

What are some "tips" that everyone uses when they fall of the wagon...for getting back on track. For instance, what should my day tomorrow maybe look like after having had way too many calories last night and today short of starving myself? I want to get back on track...and I think if I could identify a 2-3 day meal plan that would help me to get there quick, that could be key to Maintenance. Any ideas that seem to work for anyone? I hate being told to go back to "GREEN MENU" I think I have developed an aversion to it!!

I have one idea...WATER, WATER, WATER....

What else?

I am on transitioning now but I know sometimes with different work circumstances and if I mess up a couple of days like that I try for more water like you said. I also try to eat less sodium,for instance I will pick eggs over cottage cheese since eggs are the lesser sodium. Other than that maybe exercise more?? If I was more used to maintenance I'd help ya more, but I am not so I wish you the best.I need motivation to exercise lately and I just get off work and wanna skip it!!Ugh if anyone has ideas let me know-is it better to lift weights now to tone up mainly? Obviously get your heart rate up but how long do you guys suggest cardio and weights separately? Do you guys like exercise in the gym or say running outside? I have like a phobia of outside running in the evening because my neighborhoods not the best but I need to get over that. Do you guys like to exercise in the morning or at night? The morning burns more calories throughout the day I know but it is so hard to get up early. I also feel that if I do it at night it gets my mind off food since I used to be a late night snacker. Lots of questions I know but I am just not motivated. Eating healthy isn't my problem at all now, it is exercising. :(

dkdaisybutters
04-04-2013, 10:14 PM
Well ladies I've been on maintenance since jan 4, 2013, I was doing pretty good until about 2-3 wks ago, seems like my hunger has gone crazy, I'm on a 1300 calorie a day menu from my center. I usually eat really good thru the day but at night I go crazy, then I will get it under control and then go crazy eating at night again. Maintenance is really hard!!! I've gained 5 lbs and can't seem to bring myself to go back to the green menu for three days, after eating the same foods over and over and can't do it again. Thanks for letting me vent, i'm hoping to get out of the slump. Just tired I guess. :(

Somebody told me once that they used to paint their nails and toes at night so they couldn't use their hands to eat LOL. Even if they were already nice she'd do them over. Maybe find something like this to fill your time. With summer around the corner you could go for a walk or sit outside. Eating at night it so hard for me too!Some nights I will just get a craving and go a little crazy, not like fast food unhealthy crazy, but just eggs and cheese and stuff. I try to eat supper later sometimes if it is like a light meal such as fish that way it will hold me over till I go to bed. I know that they told me cal-mag helps with chocolate cravings if you are eating chocolate. I feel for ya!

skelley331
04-05-2013, 01:46 PM
Somebody told me once that they used to paint their nails and toes at night so they couldn't use their hands to eat LOL. Even if they were already nice she'd do them over. Maybe find something like this to fill your time. With summer around the corner you could go for a walk or sit outside. Eating at night it so hard for me too!Some nights I will just get a craving and go a little crazy, not like fast food unhealthy crazy, but just eggs and cheese and stuff. I try to eat supper later sometimes if it is like a light meal such as fish that way it will hold me over till I go to bed. I know that they told me cal-mag helps with chocolate cravings if you are eating chocolate. I feel for ya!

Thanks dkdaisybutters: Yes it's finally starting to warm up here in Indiana and i'm a avid outdoors person, gardening, yard work, mowing, etc so tomorrow it's going to be 70 degrees and man my flower gardens are calling my name, I will definitely be out in the evenings now at home burning calories, i'm so glad!!! Thanks for the encouragement!!! :carrot:

patzi
04-05-2013, 06:16 PM
Tami...
My friend, Cathryn, also on maintenance, just went through a real bad time,eating whatever, and felt terrible after she did it, but I tried to make her understand, you did it, you had a great time, just go back to eating sensibly. I understand about that green menu. It becomes old. So, Cathryn did just that. Like me,she does not count calories on maintenance, and is so sick of the green menu..

So next day , she was careful, and ate the best she could.. I asked her what she ate and she said for breakfast, egg beater omelet with turkey bacon.
Lunch, a tuna melt on an english muffin, and for supper, grilled fish, salad , veggies . She had three veggies for supper and no carbs. Within three days, the weight started to drop.. I told her not to beat herself up. She is human.

I will be the first to admit, this mainteance is difficult. I really wish MRC had taken care of us during maintenance as they did while losing weight. Thank goodness for this forum.

You will be fine, I am sure.

Patzi

skelley331
04-05-2013, 09:58 PM
Tami...
My friend, Cathryn, also on maintenance, just went through a real bad time,eating whatever, and felt terrible after she did it, but I tried to make her understand, you did it, you had a great time, just go back to eating sensibly. I understand about that green menu. It becomes old. So, Cathryn did just that. Like me,she does not count calories on maintenance, and is so sick of the green menu..

So next day , she was careful, and ate the best she could.. I asked her what she ate and she said for breakfast, egg beater omelet with turkey bacon.
Lunch, a tuna melt on an english muffin, and for supper, grilled fish, salad , veggies . She had three veggies for supper and no carbs. Within three days, the weight started to drop.. I told her not to beat herself up. She is human.

I will be the first to admit, this mainteance is difficult. I really wish MRC had taken care of us during maintenance as they did while losing weight. Thank goodness for this forum.

You will be fine, I am sure.

Patzi

Patzi: Boy did you hit it on the head about taking care of us during maintenance, although my counselor has been pretty supportive of me even though i have gained a few pounds, she reviews my food journals very carefully to help me see my weak points. All I do is think of food, food, food and it's normally foods i know i shouldn't really eat but end up eating them. I do count calories because if i don't then i always go way over what i should. Now that warm weather is here i'll be more active as i can't bring myself to exercise outside of cleaning house, doing laundry etc. but tonight i raked leaves for 45 mins and burned over 200 calories yay!!! I'm getting back on track and the few lbs i've gained will be gone by next week!!! :carrot:
PS: This forum is my lifeline! Thanks to all the support everyone gives us!!!

patzi
04-06-2013, 09:09 PM
Today was a day that I could have eaten everything in the house, but I didn't. However I knew I had to make myself something good or I would be in trouble My friend was telling me about making eggplant pizza and I thought about it and it sounded good.. So I did. Here is how I made them. I never measure , so here goes. This was 3:00PM that I had this binge type hunger that was terrible.

I cut 4 thick slices inside the middle of the eggplant and and sprayed with Pam. One could use olive oil. Seasoned them with Oregano, Garlic, Basil. (Any Italian seasoning would do). Use the rest of eggplant in an omelet or
in baked veggies.

Cut three slices of tomato for each eggplant slize and put on top of eggplant.
( could also use marinara sauce)

Cut thick slices of low fat mozzarella and put on top of each tomato.. Seasoned again. ( I used soy mozzarella)

Put thick cubes of lean turkey bacon on top of cheese.

Put in oven and heat until all veggies were soft and cooked.. In my oven it took 20 minutes, in my friend's it took 10.

This was really good, and filling, and I did not eat something I would be sorry for. Next time I will put under broiler for a few seconds to brown and really bubble.
Patzi

rwquilts
04-06-2013, 11:28 PM
That sounds wonderful Patzi!

patzi
04-08-2013, 04:08 PM
BariWise Protein Diet Hot Chocolate - Chocolate & Marshmallows is what I noticed today online from Diet Direct..

Has anyone tried this? I sure like marshmallows, and have not put them back in my diet since I started MRC.

Thanks
Patzi

skelley331
04-09-2013, 11:05 AM
BariWise Protein Diet Hot Chocolate - Chocolate & Marshmallows is what I noticed today online from Diet Direct..

Has anyone tried this? I sure like marshmallows, and have not put them back in my diet since I started MRC.

Thanks
Patzi

Patzi I have had these and I really liked them :)

Tamikl
04-09-2013, 01:14 PM
Hi all!

The Diet Direct hot chocolates are WAY better than MRC's. I personally like the raspberry hot chocolate...and the mint.

Well, plucking along. Today is day 2 of doing a lower carb menu plan for me. I have this plan to give myself a "low weight" and a "high weight" being around 3-4 lb different. Once I hit my "high weight," I will go on a low carb diet for 2-3 days to get my weight back down to my "low weight." If I commit to doing this every time my weight fluctuates upward, (minus PMS doesn't count) I should never have more than 3-4lbs to drop at any given time to accomplish and the plan is to Maintain my weight by disciplining myself to do this. Not allowing myself to say that a few pounds is no big deal until I am up 10...One day on unlimited protein and 20% carbs and I am down 1.5 lbs...so I am happy. My understanding is that for a while I may need to do this frequently, and then it will get to be longer and longer between times of needing to....to the point that there may be 2 days out of every month that I diet in this manner to keep my weight in check...while the rest of the time eating sensibly up to around 2000 calories a day (with exercise) I am sure praying that this will work for me. Makes me feel like I have some control and being out of control with my weight is my biggest fear:(

When I am told to be strict for a day or two, that is doable for me. To be told I need to go back on Green for a period of time, I immediately lose my motivation. If we let our weight go up too much, that would be the only option, so keeping it in check this way seems more realistic to me.

I think we all need to find what works for us...my plan may not work for everyone, obviously. Just wanted to share it in case is sounds interesting to any of you! All the help with Maintenance we can get is good with me!!!!

skelley331
04-09-2013, 05:35 PM
Hi all!

The Diet Direct hot chocolates are WAY better than MRC's. I personally like the raspberry hot chocolate...and the mint.

Well, plucking along. Today is day 2 of doing a lower carb menu plan for me. I have this plan to give myself a "low weight" and a "high weight" being around 3-4 lb different. Once I hit my "high weight," I will go on a low carb diet for 2-3 days to get my weight back down to my "low weight." If I commit to doing this every time my weight fluctuates upward, (minus PMS doesn't count) I should never have more than 3-4lbs to drop at any given time to accomplish and the plan is to Maintain my weight by disciplining myself to do this. Not allowing myself to say that a few pounds is no big deal until I am up 10...One day on unlimited protein and 20% carbs and I am down 1.5 lbs...so I am happy. My understanding is that for a while I may need to do this frequently, and then it will get to be longer and longer between times of needing to....to the point that there may be 2 days out of every month that I diet in this manner to keep my weight in check...while the rest of the time eating sensibly up to around 2000 calories a day (with exercise) I am sure praying that this will work for me. Makes me feel like I have some control and being out of control with my weight is my biggest fear:(

When I am told to be strict for a day or two, that is doable for me. To be told I need to go back on Green for a period of time, I immediately lose my motivation. If we let our weight go up too much, that would be the only option, so keeping it in check this way seems more realistic to me.

I think we all need to find what works for us...my plan may not work for everyone, obviously. Just wanted to share it in case is sounds interesting to any of you! All the help with Maintenance we can get is good with me!!!!

Thanks for sharing your plan, I might try that, i'm up 4.5 lbs and i'm struggling trying to do the green menu again, I've been maintenance since 1/4/13 and it's really hard, I get so confused. My counselor bless her heart and I love her to death told me last week to try the green menu for two days but I just couldn't , I worked outside sat/sun for like 6 hrs each day and I gained 2.5 lbs when I weighed in Monday, I don't understand. I'm a daily weigher maybe I need to stop and just weigh once a week. Carbs are my enemy at night all I want to do is eat and all I do is think about food food food, it drives me crazy. :?:

patzi
04-10-2013, 12:52 PM
I just ordered the Diet Direct Hot Chocolate Variety Pack.. Now, that I think of it, have not done it in ages.. I just noticed marshmallow was new in there for me.. I love the raspberry.

I wish they had a variety pack in the concentrates by Proti Diet.

Thanks all that answered.
Patzi

patzi
04-10-2013, 12:58 PM
Skelly...
I use one of the puddings or the cocoa products for night time, as carbs would put me over the top .

I mix the above, add a small amount of FF Greek Yogurt, small amount of nuts, and freeze it. I either have that or a cocoa at night, and that seems to make me happy. If my weight has been stable for a couple of weeks, will add a small amount of walnuts to that. Sometimes, I also add sugar free chocolate syrup if I use the vanilla pudding and make a swirl on top with it.
To me it is a substitution of icecream.

When my friend hit maintenance, she was eating carbs at night as a snack, and the weight went up big time.. Another friend could tolerate it fine.

Each one of us is different, and we have to find out what works for us. But me with carbs at night is the devil as Big Dog says.

Good luck..
Patzi

patzi
04-10-2013, 01:00 PM
Tami...
Your plan works for me.. When I am up 2 pounds , I do as you do and it works for me. When I am watching my carbs, sometimes I will omit at nightime dinner. Depends if I feel belly bloat or not.

Patzi

Going4Fit
04-10-2013, 04:53 PM
Well, I appreciate how kind everyone is in trying to support one another and be careful of feelings. I just wanted to let you all know what's happened to me. I have gained back a significant amount of weight, enough that I have had to go up two clothing sizes, and so I have made the decision to go back on green menu. I haven't weighed myself, as the shape my body is in tells me enough and I don't want to feel discouraged by the numbers.

I'm making the decision to not beat myself up over this. What's done is done and I'm giving myself credit for starting over before I gain it all back. It is a moment-by-moment process to not dwell on it though, as I see myself in the mirror every time I go to the bathroom. I miss that flat stomach I worked so hard to get, and cringe at the sight of love handles that weren't there just three weeks ago. Oh well.

Today is day 2 on green menu. I'm doing this on my own. Haven't weighed in for about a month at the center and they haven't followed up with me at all so whatever. I still have a supply of HNS's that should get me through. I'm not hungry and I'm honestly relieved at not having to count calories and to go back to trusting in the combination of choices off the green menu.

So I guess I'll hang out with the regular MRC'ers for a bit, and I'll come back on here when I'm ready to try "Maintenance, Take 2".

Thanks everyone.

Tamikl
04-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Well, I appreciate how kind everyone is in trying to support one another and be careful of feelings. I just wanted to let you all know what's happened to me. I have gained back a significant amount of weight, enough that I have had to go up two clothing sizes, and so I have made the decision to go back on green menu. I haven't weighed myself, as the shape my body is in tells me enough and I don't want to feel discouraged by the numbers.

I'm making the decision to not beat myself up over this. What's done is done and I'm giving myself credit for starting over before I gain it all back. It is a moment-by-moment process to not dwell on it though, as I see myself in the mirror every time I go to the bathroom. I miss that flat stomach I worked so hard to get, and cringe at the sight of love handles that weren't there just three weeks ago. Oh well.

Today is day 2 on green menu. I'm doing this on my own. Haven't weighed in for about a month at the center and they haven't followed up with me at all so whatever. I still have a supply of HNS's that should get me through. I'm not hungry and I'm honestly relieved at not having to count calories and to go back to trusting in the combination of choices off the green menu.

So I guess I'll hang out with the regular MRC'ers for a bit, and I'll come back on here when I'm ready to try "Maintenance, Take 2".

Thanks everyone.

I am sorry that you are struggling...we all go through that for sure:( I applaud your commitment to persevere...That is to be admired!!!! On the other hand, you have such wonderful input on our Maintenance discussions and so I hope you don't disappear....I am on Maintenance, Take 2 also!!! I may be on 3, 4, 5, etc...because this is a journey for us all! It is not a foot race, but a marathon:) We don't just hit a goal and say DONE! Nope..it is a daily journey for a lifetime. Please don't beat yourself up, and go right ahead and avoid the scale for a time. That could discourage you more and be counterproductive to your motivation. Please stay in touch on this thread...or you will be very missed. Hang in there:grouphug: We are all here for you.

skelley331
04-10-2013, 10:08 PM
Skelly...
I use one of the puddings or the cocoa products for night time, as carbs would put me over the top .

I mix the above, add a small amount of FF Greek Yogurt, small amount of nuts, and freeze it. I either have that or a cocoa at night, and that seems to make me happy. If my weight has been stable for a couple of weeks, will add a small amount of walnuts to that. Sometimes, I also add sugar free chocolate syrup if I use the vanilla pudding and make a swirl on top with it.
To me it is a substitution of icecream.

When my friend hit maintenance, she was eating carbs at night as a snack, and the weight went up big time.. Another friend could tolerate it fine.

Each one of us is different, and we have to find out what works for us. But me with carbs at night is the devil as Big Dog says.

Good luck..
Patzi

Thanks patzi for the information,i believe im right there, i eat carbs at night and i've gained a few pounds but i'm going to try not to do carbs at night and see if it helps. Thanks so much :carrot:

skelley331
04-10-2013, 10:12 PM
Well, I appreciate how kind everyone is in trying to support one another and be careful of feelings. I just wanted to let you all know what's happened to me. I have gained back a significant amount of weight, enough that I have had to go up two clothing sizes, and so I have made the decision to go back on green menu. I haven't weighed myself, as the shape my body is in tells me enough and I don't want to feel discouraged by the numbers.

I'm making the decision to not beat myself up over this. What's done is done and I'm giving myself credit for starting over before I gain it all back. It is a moment-by-moment process to not dwell on it though, as I see myself in the mirror every time I go to the bathroom. I miss that flat stomach I worked so hard to get, and cringe at the sight of love handles that weren't there just three weeks ago. Oh well.

Today is day 2 on green menu. I'm doing this on my own. Haven't weighed in for about a month at the center and they haven't followed up with me at all so whatever. I still have a supply of HNS's that should get me through. I'm not hungry and I'm honestly relieved at not having to count calories and to go back to trusting in the combination of choices off the green menu.

So I guess I'll hang out with the regular MRC'ers for a bit, and I'll come back on here when I'm ready to try "Maintenance, Take 2".

Thanks everyone.

Going4fit please don't feel you have to leave us on the maintainers, i've gained a few pounds also and yes it is discouraging but like you said it is a life long journey, please stay on here with the rest of us for support, i went back on the green menu today to lose the 5lbs i've gained. I'm struggling with the calorie counting as well, i see 1300 calories and lately i'm always going over, patzi gave me a idea , i'm going to omit carbs at night. Goodluck and remember we are here for you!!! You will get control again so don't give up. :hug:

skelley331
04-16-2013, 03:47 PM
I weighed in today and lost 1 pound, which I am thrilled with.. I had put a recipe in the recipe section that I call the fat burning pancake.. I had that every day ,with a different topping for breakfast, and I really enjoy eating it. I cut way down on carbs, and it worked.

I have been having a problem with cravings the past 4 month, and that is a new one for me, as it had passed for so long, so when I do have one, I make it a protein one, vs a carb one.

How many of you still take the HNS on maintenance, and if yes, how often.

Going for weigh in every other week is working for me, so will keep that up for the time being.

Hoe you all are having a nice day.
Patzi

Congrats to you Patzi, I need to find that receipe, ive gained like 7 lbs and it's scaring me, I have all these cravings and i'm eating like a garbage disposal, having touble getting back on plan. I still drink the HNS about once or twice a day. I go weigh in at my center every two weeks, it's been almost 3 now, I've gone in the last two times and gained, i'm afraid of what they might say. :mad:

patzi
04-16-2013, 04:01 PM
I weighed in today and lost 1 pound, which I am thrilled with.. I had put a recipe in the recipe section that I call the fat burning pancake.. I had that every day ,with a different topping for breakfast, and I really enjoy eating it. I cut way down on carbs, and it worked.

I have been having a problem with cravings the past 4 month, and that is a new one for me, as it had passed for so long, so when I do have one, I make it a protein one, vs a carb one.

How many of you still take the HNS on maintenance, and if yes, how often.

Going for weigh in every other week is working for me, so will keep that up for the time being.

Hoe you all are having a nice day.
Patzi

patzi
04-16-2013, 05:29 PM
Congrats to you Patzi, I need to find that receipe, ive gained like 7 lbs and it's scaring me, I have all these cravings and i'm eating like a garbage disposal, having touble getting back on plan. I still drink the HNS about once or twice a day. I go weigh in at my center every two weeks, it's been almost 3 now, I've gone in the last two times and gained, i'm afraid of what they might say. :mad:

Skelley..
Don't be afraid of what the center says.. If you gained weight, have them find out why and help you. That is what they are there for and what you paid good money for. Tell them about the cravings.. I find lately, that if I take a LaCroix coconut flavored water and add a fulfill Mixed fruit drink( The fiber drink mix) to it, it is filling and curbs that horrific craving.. Also watch the carbs you eat. If you eat the wrong ones or too many of them, things spiral way out of control.. But don't give up, whatever you do. MAKE the center give you a schedule to take the 7 pounds off. Can you weigh in once a week, would that help you stay more focused?
We are here whenever you need us. Hang in there. It is a challenge, but one you can meet.

Patzi

Tamikl
04-16-2013, 06:38 PM
Great job, Patzi. I am with you...any adjustment of carbs will make a big difference either way. When I need to lose, I omit them, and if you want to gain...add them right in!! lol...finding that balance, that is the key for each of us.

I am plucking along. I think my WI tomorrow will be a maintain. I do believe that my WI appts. help me tremendously. I was backing off to every other week and that didn't last long. Seemed doing this coincided with Tami backing off, too...with paying close attention to what I was eating. I am at the point of wanting to prove to myself and to my counselor that I can do this...currently she knows I am on my own journey of exploring what works for me, and is supporting that. I still journal daily and take that with me, also.

When I do a day or two of low carb...I get headaches, so I can't do more than that at a given time....nor do I want to! I do low carb 2 days a week and eat pretty much whatever the other days...within reason. So far it is working for me! When I am on a low carb day...I can eat any amount of protein and still lose. No hunger at all...and I don't seem to gain.

At the moment, I am feeling optimistic about going forward, but still do best with those WI appointments. Whatever works!

skelley331
04-16-2013, 08:20 PM
Skelley..
Don't be afraid of what the center says.. If you gained weight, have them find out why and help you. That is what they are there for and what you paid good money for. Tell them about the cravings.. I find lately, that if I take a LaCroix coconut flavored water and add a fulfill Mixed fruit drink( The fiber drink mix) to it, it is filling and curbs that horrific craving.. Also watch the carbs you eat. If you eat the wrong ones or too many of them, things spiral way out of control.. But don't give up, whatever you do. MAKE the center give you a schedule to take the 7 pounds off. Can you weigh in once a week, would that help you stay more focused?
We are here whenever you need us. Hang in there. It is a challenge, but one you can meet.

Patzi
Thanks Patzi, I know why i've gained the 7lbs, at night i crave ice cream or potato chips, stuff like that and i don't know why. I'm so on target thru the day but then at night i'm starving, i just got some protein bars from dietdirect.com and chocolate pudding/shakes, i'm going to see if this will help my cravings at night. I started back on the green menu today so i'm on plan today so far but i'm craving chocolate!! I think that has happened to me, i've ate too many bad carbs and now i'm out of control. I keep track of everything and i mean everything that i eat on myfitnesspal.com, do you think i should print my days off and let them see all the bad foods i've been eating? I don't want to have to buy more weeks, i was told if i go over my 5 lbs cushion i would have to buy 10 more weeks.:(

skelley331
04-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Great job, Patzi. I am with you...any adjustment of carbs will make a big difference either way. When I need to lose, I omit them, and if you want to gain...add them right in!! lol...finding that balance, that is the key for each of us.

I am plucking along. I think my WI tomorrow will be a maintain. I do believe that my WI appts. help me tremendously. I was backing off to every other week and that didn't last long. Seemed doing this coincided with Tami backing off, too...with paying close attention to what I was eating. I am at the point of wanting to prove to myself and to my counselor that I can do this...currently she knows I am on my own journey of exploring what works for me, and is supporting that. I still journal daily and take that with me, also.

When I do a day or two of low carb...I get headaches, so I can't do more than that at a given time....nor do I want to! I do low carb 2 days a week and eat pretty much whatever the other days...within reason. So far it is working for me! When I am on a low carb day...I can eat any amount of protein and still lose. No hunger at all...and I don't seem to gain.

At the moment, I am feeling optimistic about going forward, but still do best with those WI appointments. Whatever works!



Are you on a certain amount of calories with your maintenance? I notice you said you do two days of low carb and then eat whatever you want the others days within reason. Thanks

Tamikl
04-16-2013, 11:20 PM
Are you on a certain amount of calories with your maintenance? I notice you said you do two days of low carb and then eat whatever you want the others days within reason. Thanks

No specific calorie count on low carb days...and on other days I range from 1400-1800. I don't count then either...but try to make protein dominant daily. I think I am more carb sensitive than I am calorie sensitive.

skelley331
04-17-2013, 07:09 AM
Well i took your advise Patzi, last night when i got a craving i ate a MRC protein bar, stayed on plan pretty much most of the day, i did have a york peperment pati snack, but i was down 2.2lbs this morning YAY :carrot: So today is another day and i'm going to stay on plan (using the green menu)and see how it goes tomorrow at my weigh in!!

Tamikl: Thanks for your input on doing low carb days, i had a low carb high protein day yesterday and i'm hoping that's why i lost the 2.2lbs, now if i can continue on this way i can lose the other 4.8lbs and be back down to my goal weight!! :carrot:

Thanks ladies for your support!! I feel much better today.:smug:

patzi
04-22-2013, 12:18 PM
Anyone have a low carb cheesecake recipe, other than the one in the MRC cookbook.. I am not in favor of that one.. I think I will make an oatbran
crust... Having cravings at night again, so thought it would be a good treat if it is real low carb.

I am also looking thru my recipes to see if I can do over a recipe to make it likeable to MRC.

Have a nice day.

Patzi

Tamikl
04-22-2013, 04:52 PM
Hi Patzi..No recipe for a low carb cheesecake. Maybe just research online?

I am happy that this forum introduced Syntrax Nectar!! NO Carb..I can have as a drink daily and get some protein without the carb guilt. The "Chocolate Truffle" is my favorite for that sweet tooth we all get.

Today is a low carb day for me. Looks like I am going about 5-6 days of eating fairly free, and 1-2 lower carb days to keep my weight in check. I am also checking in with MRC once a week at the moment to keep myself accountable.

I am suppose to be "Client of the Month" in May...so that is exciting!

Has anyone tried those new Nature Valley Protein bars? They have 3 flavors I think...and my favorite is the Caramel Nut..YUM! (10g of protein per bar)

Always on the look out for snack ideas!! lol

Until next time...I hope all are doing well:)

dkdaisybutters
04-22-2013, 06:43 PM
Thanks Patzi, I know why i've gained the 7lbs, at night i crave ice cream or potato chips, stuff like that and i don't know why. I'm so on target thru the day but then at night i'm starving, i just got some protein bars from dietdirect.com and chocolate pudding/shakes, i'm going to see if this will help my cravings at night. I started back on the green menu today so i'm on plan today so far but i'm craving chocolate!! I think that has happened to me, i've ate too many bad carbs and now i'm out of control. I keep track of everything and i mean everything that i eat on myfitnesspal.com, do you think i should print my days off and let them see all the bad foods i've been eating? I don't want to have to buy more weeks, i was told if i go over my 5 lbs cushion i would have to buy 10 more weeks.:(

Hey skelley, my center gives out an MRC maintenance menu-smart selections...I wonder if your center has that? They give a list of foods and then like it says proteins 9-10 servings daily and 1 oz equals one serving unless indicated like I could have 2 turkey sausages or 1 oz chicken and that would equal one of my proteins for the day and then I have 8-9 left. They do this for dairy, vegi, fruit, starch, fats, proteins and they tell a recommended calorie range for the group. I am on a 1200 cal menu because when I weigh in it is 1400 something to maintain so they make it lower so if you go over there is wiggle room and you wont gain. They also have a free catagory which includes egg white and pickles and stuff. I can have whatever I want but I like this because it helps me to keep on track. Last night I ate fajitas but I calculated before I went how much protein, fat, cals, etc. I planned for.

skelley331
04-22-2013, 10:05 PM
Hey skelley, my center gives out an MRC maintenance menu-smart selections...I wonder if your center has that? They give a list of foods and then like it says proteins 9-10 servings daily and 1 oz equals one serving unless indicated like I could have 2 turkey sausages or 1 oz chicken and that would equal one of my proteins for the day and then I have 8-9 left. They do this for dairy, vegi, fruit, starch, fats, proteins and they tell a recommended calorie range for the group. I am on a 1200 cal menu because when I weigh in it is 1400 something to maintain so they make it lower so if you go over there is wiggle room and you wont gain. They also have a free catagory which includes egg white and pickles and stuff. I can have whatever I want but I like this because it helps me to keep on track. Last night I ate fajitas but I calculated before I went how much protein, fat, cals, etc. I planned for.

Yes it have that menu, but what i have a hard time is eating the same foods every day, i'm not much of doing alot of receipes. I went back to the green menu for 3 days and i'm two lbs away from where i was when i went on maintenance. I just read the book The Diet Cure and it's really good, i might try the plan and see what happens, it's suppose to eliminate all the cravings, you don't count calories or fat grams. Thanks for the information though, one of these days i'll figure it out. I hope :carrot:

dkdaisybutters
04-22-2013, 10:12 PM
Yes it have that menu, but what i have a hard time is eating the same foods every day, i'm not much of doing alot of receipes. I went back to the green menu for 3 days and i'm two lbs away from where i was when i went on maintenance. I just read the book The Diet Cure and it's really good, i might try the plan and see what happens, it's suppose to eliminate all the cravings, you don't count calories or fat grams. Thanks for the information though, one of these days i'll figure it out. I hope :carrot:

Let me know how that goes with that plan I have never heard of it but that sounds interesting. Is it pretty strict or just guidelines kind of? I know I use pinterest and find a lot of tips and tricks and also i know you said that you don't like recipes but they have some pretty simple ones on there because I usually never make anything if there are too many ingredients or steps! lol

skelley331
04-23-2013, 10:16 AM
Let me know how that goes with that plan I have never heard of it but that sounds interesting. Is it pretty strict or just guidelines kind of? I know I use pinterest and find a lot of tips and tricks and also i know you said that you don't like recipes but they have some pretty simple ones on there because I usually never make anything if there are too many ingredients or steps! lol

It's not strict, she tells you to stop weighing yourself, stop counting calories and fat grams, it's not a diet it's a diet cure, she starts you out on a good multivitamin along with other supplements to stop the cravings of sweets, carbs, etc and then after twelve weeks you start one by one and eliminate them except for the basic supplements that you stay on forever. I'm starting this on Monday. I go to my MRC center Friday to weigh in then on Saturday i'm getting my supplements. I have a horrible time at night with cravings and she explains in her book that our bodies are out of balance with nutrients. But the foods you eat are protein, low carbs, veggies sorta like MRC but more foods. She shows you how doing low calorie diets make us fatter. I'll post my results. But what she explains also that once our bodies are back in balance that our bodies will lose naturally to our ideal weight. I got the book and I couldn't stop reading it. There are a lot of good reviews on it too.

skelley331
04-23-2013, 11:39 AM
Here is a brief summary of the book:
NOT dieting, but diet -- is low carb. I was especially interested in that there were no phases, no maintenance, no transition to maintenance. Just, this is what you should eat if you want to be healthy. I thought there might be some interest here, and so I'll post a summary.


1. Plan's name: Common name of the diet
THE DIET CURE (Dr. Julia Ross)

2. Date: Original publication date -- 1999

3, Basic Philosophy/Strategy: Low-Carb, or 40/30/30 etc.
This can be used in the main index as a summary.
In a chapter entitled "Nutritional Rehab for the Ex-Dieter" she has a list of steps in "How to Undiet." These are:
1. Do not skip meals
2. Eat at last 25 percent of the day's calories at breakfast
3. Do not under eat
4. Start your meals with plenty of protein -- 20 grams or more of protein per meal.
5. Eat unlimited amounts of green vegetables with your protein. Eat some red and yellow ones, too.
6. For snacking, eat fruit or vegetables with proteins.
7. Be sure to include some good fats in each meal
8. Stop counting calories and fat grams

She stresses that fats are not the enemy, carbohydrates are. There are other eating regimens -- to combat yeast problems, etc. -- as well as very specific guidance on supplements for a variety of ills (including cravings, balancing blood sugar, etc.)

4. By the numbers: Percentages, phases
In her summary, she says: Be sure to eat:
3 meals minimum per day,
4 cups or more of colored low-carb veggies, mostly green. Eat as many of your vegetables raw as you can.
At least 20 grams of protein at each meal
At least one-quarter of your day's total calories at breakfast
2 servings of fruit or more daily
other whole-food carbs -- beans, rice, corn -- as needed after you've eaten your vegetables, protein and fat
good oils, like olive and canola, in salad dressings and sautéed dishes

5. Method: Details of the method, what to eat, what to avoid
Nothing to add except -- avoid white flour and sugar, refined products. Avoid dieting!

dkdaisybutters
04-24-2013, 04:59 PM
Sounds interesting Skelley331, whatever works in your world is all that matters! Took 2 50 cal chocolate vitacakes and heated them up slightly and then put SF,FF frozen yogurt on top! YUM i love those vitamuffins and vitacakes it really helps with sweet cravings!!!I should of put Walden Farms chocolate or caramel syrup on top too that would have been even more delicious. How is everyone doing maintaining??I am having a hard time getting enough calories in on the days that I work out does anyone else have this problem? I know it sounds silly but I feel so stuffed with what I am eating. I don't make anything to bake because I travel with my husband on the road and we only have a microwave and skillet. Do most of you bake casseroles and stuff or pretty much stick to meat veggie carbs fats etc. seperately. I don't want to go crazy and eat a ton of fattening processed things just to get at least 1200 a day, and that would be going back on what I have learned throughout this process. I am happy eating what I am now because treats to me are cream cheese on a bagel or peanut butter on toast or things like that. I feel good that I am not out of control hungry all the time but I don't want to starve my body either. Any suggestions?

patzi
04-24-2013, 07:27 PM
Sounds interesting Skelley331, whatever works in your world is all that matters! Took 2 50 cal chocolate vitacakes and heated them up slightly and then put SF,FF frozen yogurt on top! YUM i love those vitamuffins and vitacakes it really helps with sweet cravings!!!I should of put Walden Farms chocolate or caramel syrup on top too that would have been even more delicious. How is everyone doing maintaining??I am having a hard time getting enough calories in on the days that I work out does anyone else have this problem? I know it sounds silly but I feel so stuffed with what I am eating. I don't make anything to bake because I travel with my husband on the road and we only have a microwave and skillet. Do most of you bake casseroles and stuff or pretty much stick to meat veggie carbs fats etc. seperately. I don't want to go crazy and eat a ton of fattening processed things just to get at least 1200 a day, and that would be going back on what I have learned throughout this process. I am happy eating what I am now because treats to me are cream cheese on a bagel or peanut butter on toast or things like that. I feel good that I am not out of control hungry all the time but I don't want to starve my body either. Any suggestions?


I make up my menu pretty much the week before, and I do cook and bake. I have never counted calories on weight loss or maintenance.

Patzi

patzi
04-24-2013, 07:30 PM
Cheesecake..

I am experimenting on low carb cheese cake.. I make the cheesecake and the topping, and I will let you know whether it is good enough to post recipe. It is a cheesecake you bake, and the topping has no sugar, just splenda.. Will be back tomorrow after I have a piece for snack tonight. It is a cheesecake with no crust. I used springform pan.

Patzi

dkdaisybutters
04-24-2013, 08:58 PM
I make up my menu pretty much the week before, and I do cook and bake. I have never counted calories on weight loss or maintenance.

Patzi

So you mainly just eat healthy things and don't worry about the calories because they are healthy, correct? Unless you eat something unhealthy then do you count them? I wasn't counting the calories either because everything I ate was healthy but then yesterday I started freaking out that I wasn't getting enough and my body might go into starvation mode. Maybe I'll just stop worrying about calories unless I plan on indulging in something not so healthy.

patzi
04-25-2013, 12:38 AM
So you mainly just eat healthy things and don't worry about the calories because they are healthy, correct? Unless you eat something unhealthy then do you count them? I wasn't counting the calories either because everything I ate was healthy but then yesterday I started freaking out that I wasn't getting enough and my body might go into starvation mode. Maybe I'll just stop worrying about calories unless I plan on indulging in something not so healthy.

Hi..
I never counted calories. Never do now.. I watch what I eat and if I gain weight, which I do, I yo yo up and down 1-3 pounds here and there, but as soon as I do, I go on a stricker regimen similar to green menu until I lose it.
On maintenance one should be able to eat anything within moderation, some gain weight with it some don't. But I just try to eat as normal as I can and not fret about what I eat. I eat very low carb. I eat very little bread and I do eat grain, but small amounts. I hope I have answered your questions. Oh, when I do eat grain, I have no bread for that day.
I still am 5 pounds under goal, and try to stay there the best I can. How long have you been on maintenance?

Patzi

patzi
04-25-2013, 12:49 AM
CHEESECAKE RECIPE...

THIS WAS GIVEN TO ME BY A FRIEND WHO IS ON WW, AND I PLAYED WITH INGREDIENTS A BIT.

Ingredients:
Cheesecake
16 oz. fat-free cream cheese, room temperature
1/2 cup granulated white sugar (or SPLENDA)
1 tsp. vanilla extract
6 oz. (about 2/3 cup) fat-free vanilla Greek yogurt, room temperature
1/2 cup liquid egg whites (about 4 egg whites), room temperature
2 tbsp. lemon juice, room temperature
2 tbsp. all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp. cinnamon

Topping ( I SUBSTITUTED ) see end of recipe
1 1/2 tbsp. cornstarch
2 cups frozen unsweetened pitted dark sweet cherries, partially thawed and chopped
1/3 cup granulated white sugar (or HG Alternative)
1/2 tsp. lemon juice
1/8 tsp. cinnamon
1/8 tsp. salt

Directions:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Spray a 9-inch springform cake pan with nonstick spray.

To make the cheesecake, in a large bowl, combine cream cheese, sugar, and vanilla extract. With an electric mixer set to medium speed, beat until smooth, 1 - 2 minutes.

Continue to beat while gradually adding yogurt, egg whites, lemon juice, flour, and cinnamon. Beat until uniform, about 2 minutes.

Evenly pour mixture into the cake pan. Bake until firm, 40 - 45 minutes. Let cool completely, about 2 hours.

Meanwhile, to make the topping, combine cornstarch with 1/4 cup cold water in a medium nonstick pot, and stir to dissolve. Add remaining topping ingredients, and stir well. Set heat to medium. Stirring frequently, cook until mixture is thick and gooey, 8 - 10 minutes. Transfer to a medium bowl, and let cool completely.

Evenly pour topping over the cooled cheesecake in the pan. Refrigerate until chilled, at least 1 hour.

Once ready to serve, release springform, and dig in!

MAKES 8 SERVINGS

FOR TOPPING, I SUBSTITUTED AS I DID NOT HAVE INGREDIENTS.
I used the Comstock sugar free cherry pie filling

I enjoyed this cheesecake very much, and hit the spot at night with a cup of tea. Only thing I would change is add more splenda as to me it was not sweet enough. Ido not like using splenda, but I did not think Stevia would
be sweet, and was not sure how to substitute.
Patzi

dkdaisybutters
04-25-2013, 01:03 PM
Hi..
I never counted calories. Never do now.. I watch what I eat and if I gain weight, which I do, I yo yo up and down 1-3 pounds here and there, but as soon as I do, I go on a stricker regimen similar to green menu until I lose it.
On maintenance one should be able to eat anything within moderation, some gain weight with it some don't. But I just try to eat as normal as I can and not fret about what I eat. I eat very low carb. I eat very little bread and I do eat grain, but small amounts. I hope I have answered your questions. Oh, when I do eat grain, I have no bread for that day.
I still am 5 pounds under goal, and try to stay there the best I can. How long have you been on maintenance?

Patzi

About a week and I have lost 2 lbs but I started working out more so that is probably why. I was doing it your way the beginning of the week so I think I will stick to that. I don't want to count calories the rest of my life. I am 7 lbs under my goal so I am okay but for some reason I freak out that I am going to gain weight even if I portion something fattening. Also,I freak out that I might gain if I don't get enough calories in because my body will starve. Even if I do gain some I know how to lose it again, like you do, and I have plenty of wiggle room. It is all in my head I know and I shouldn't fret. Thank you for your help and support with this matter, I feel better now :). By the way, the cheesecake sounds amazing!

skelley331
04-25-2013, 02:59 PM
Does anyone still track their foods after being in maintenance for a few months? I still go weigh in at the center and still take my food journal because I was told to still bring it in. But I would like to just go weigh in since I've been in maintenance since jan 4th of this year. I track my foods on my fitness pal but i'm actually going to stop tracking calories and just eat healthy and go my how I feel and how my clothes fit. I too agree with dkdaisybutters, I don't want to count calories for the rest of my life. I go tomorrow to my center so I think i'll just go empty handed and let them know I would prefer to just weigh in and not do the one on one meetings, that if I have questions I will ask or have problems I will ask. What does everyone else do? Thank you:?:

rwquilts
04-25-2013, 06:58 PM
I don't think ive been to weigh in since very early in January. I got a call from the center this week checking on me. I said that I fluctuate between a few pounds and feel like I'm doing well. She said to come in any time to weigh in or purchase any of the products. I'm rather suprised it took them over 3 months to check on me.

patzi
04-25-2013, 08:24 PM
Does anyone still track their foods after being in maintenance for a few months? I still go weigh in at the center and still take my food journal because I was told to still bring it in. But I would like to just go weigh in since I've been in maintenance since jan 4th of this year. I track my foods on my fitness pal but i'm actually going to stop tracking calories and just eat healthy and go my how I feel and how my clothes fit. I too agree with dkdaisybutters, I don't want to count calories for the rest of my life. I go tomorrow to my center so I think i'll just go empty handed and let them know I would prefer to just weigh in and not do the one on one meetings, that if I have questions I will ask or have problems I will ask. What does everyone else do? Thank you:?:

Skelley...
I still journal every day, everything I put in my mouth. It keeps me focused.
I have a small spiral book I use. I just keep in my handbag if I am out an about.. It is also good, as if I gain weight for no reason, which happens lots to me, I can go back the day before and see if I ate a trigger food.
Patzi

patzi
04-25-2013, 08:26 PM
Anyone have a high protein home made shake as a meal replacement that is MRC friendly?

Thanks
Patzi

skelley331
04-25-2013, 09:49 PM
Skelley...
I still journal every day, everything I put in my mouth. It keeps me focused.
I have a small spiral book I use. I just keep in my handbag if I am out an about.. It is also good, as if I gain weight for no reason, which happens lots to me, I can go back the day before and see if I ate a trigger food.
Patzi

That makes sense, i might continue to track on myfitness pal since i have it on my iphone and it's so quick and easy. thank you

skelley331
04-25-2013, 09:49 PM
Anyone have a high protein home made shake as a meal replacement that is MRC friendly?

Thanks
Patzi

I use the atkins protein shakes