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12-22-2012, 01:01 PM
Please NO one comment if your not gonna say anything nice.... All i want is some advice not any negative nancy's!!!!!

Okay here i go..... So i met with my IP coach the other day and we were planning out my Christmas and my holidays since i am gone from the 23rd till the 2nd going home. Not worried because i am bringing my food with me. But anyways i have a really busy schedule throughout Christmas... The 23rd my father in laws birthday (Going out for dinner) Not worried about that we going to a steak house so i got that planned out. But the 24 25 and 26th i have Christmas dinners all 3 days and the 26th i have a Christmas lunch. I have 3 families. My couch told me to have an entire cheat day on the 25 and 1st and a half cheat day on the 26th. But i am worried i am gonna put it back on but she says if i go off IP for only 2 days then i will just bloat and if i get back right away it will be fine and also said since these are planned cheats then i shouldn't worry because at least she will know about them. I am worried that i will gain tons or feel bad about myself for cheating but she said since she knows it is fine. Any suggestions? I will prob cheat for dinners but that's about it. Please again don't comment if your just gonna put me down or say nasty things like i have seen in some posts. Thank you

12-22-2012, 01:20 PM thought is this: you are a grown up and can make your own decisions and take responsibility for any repercussions. I'm not going to say I think it's a good idea, but it's YOUR decision and yours alone. You aren't hurting anybody else, so it's really nobody's place to criticize you. If you are able to get right back on plan, I would look upon that as a victory in itself. I have seen some posts where people are very negative about things like this, and they say very negative things about losing control over food, etc. But isn't that a form of controlling yourself, if you are able to go back on plan?

However, I definitely wouldn't do this more than this 1 occasion! I know there are a lot of negatives about cheating during phase 1, and there have been posts detailing these things. You might want to look those up just to get better informed; right now I don't remember the specifics. I think the big danger is in letting yourself cheat, and then not getting right back on plan. It may be hard, but you did it once and can do it again, right? You may have to go through some headaches, etc. again as you work on getting back in ketosis.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do!

12-22-2012, 01:30 PM
I have found it so much easier to just eat OP and then help with washing dishes or whatever while everyone else is stuffing themselves. None of my family even noticed, except the hostess who was happy to have the help. Meat and green beans are common menu items in my family so that works for me.
I'm all for easy.

12-22-2012, 01:53 PM
In my opinion, the holidays are a tough time to follow IP in Phase 1. I've been on the plan for 10 weeks and been a slow loser, though slow and steady. I'm not to my goal yet, but I need to be able to enjoy my holiday company for the next 2 weeks. For me, that means making some meals that are not OP, and eating some extra (healthy) foods.

So, while I'm not completely abandoning the program, I am willingly going to eat some food that is not on Phase 1. My coach suggested I try to work with the Alternative Plan 1, as a guide for eating more but not overdoing. I'll use it as a guide and go from there.

Now, I'm still committed to my weight loss and don't plan on drinking alcohol or consuming desserts, so I'm hoping to stay steady for the next 2 weeks.

Best of luck to you! Sounds like you have a plan and a willingness to stay close to the program when you can.

12-22-2012, 02:43 PM
Well she told me to take FULL cheat days and for me i didn't want to because i am worried if i did 2 back to back cheat days then i will fall off. If i stuck to dinners then i believe i will be okay (I am not a sweet kind of person so desserts wont temp me) I know i am a grown up and can make my own decisions but sometimes it is easier when i get a little support or ideas from other people on here sorry.... I am more of the person who likes to see what other people thoughts and ideas are. The last couple replies have really helped me i just wanna know what everyone is thinking of doing on Christmas. Thank you everyone.

12-22-2012, 03:18 PM
I am cooking for Christmas so I am in control of the food this year (yay). There be plenty of IP food as well as traditional family favorites, which I won't eat.

Let me ask you this, did you plan your cheat day because (1) you miss the food or (2) you didn't want to deal with all the questions from non-IPers re: your eating this holiday season and figured it was just easier to eat so as not to attract attention?

If #1, then you just have to ask yourself if your will to lose weight and get healthy are stronger than your love for the food you will be eating. If you have willpower, you should be able to get back on IP right afterwards.

If #2, I know what you mean. I've had to stand my ground during all the holiday parties I attended. People were actually cool about it.

12-22-2012, 03:20 PM
I have had cheat days when I was invited for dinner. I would recommend enjoy the food, don't stuff yourself, just taste it and temper your alcohol intake because that stuff really gets very potent on a low calorie diet. You should know yourself best and if you can stay determined and go back dieting right after it should not register on your scale for more than a couple of days. I actually lost weight after cheat meals (I usually only occasionally cheat at dinner invitations). So, it is a personal decision. If you are in doubt, choose one meal rather than 2 days in a row and see whether you can handle it.

I have been dieting for 9 months now and have about 8 more months to go. I know I will loose it eventually and do not want to deprieve myself completely for that long a time. I therefore decided that I prefer to loose it perhaps a bit slower, but keep some staples like coffee with half and half, a small amount of wine, and the occasional cheat with friends. This makes it easier for me to stay on this diet. But you have to be disciplined and get right back. I am helped by the fact that I do not like desserts and I anyways like to eat veggies and lean meat. And I experienced that more than a glass of wine while eating 900 calories is not really recommended. This keeps things in check for me. I also told everybody that I am on a low carb diet. So, I now get comments back if I deviate.

12-22-2012, 03:55 PM
I just don't want to be questioned and hounded for not eating what they eat. I had dinner at the in laws and i brought food a couple times and i have not heard the end of it yet. So that's why i will cheat on Christmas with them.

12-22-2012, 03:59 PM
I just don't want to be questioned and hounded for not eating what they eat. I had dinner at the in laws and i brought food a couple times and i have not heard the end of it yet. So that's why i will cheat on Christmas with them.

It really sucks to be in that position. Since your heart and mind are in IP, then I don't think you will have a tough time getting back on afterwards.

Some others on here have successfully told others they are on a medically supervised diet. That seemed to do the trick.

Good luck.

12-22-2012, 04:22 PM
I had dinner at the in laws and i brought food a couple times and i have not heard the end of it yet. So that's why i will cheat on Christmas with them.

I'm not on IP so I don't have advice as far as that part is concerned but I was really sad to read your comment above. :( I have in-laws like that too and even if they didn't say anything to my face, I'd be the talk of the family behind my back. My mother-in-law has always made back-handed comments about my weight and I think maybe she didn't realize I "got" every single one of them, even if she thought she was just being cute.

Now that I have a few months of my diet under my belt, I'm staying on my plan for ME (and my husband). I wouldn't give my in-laws the satisfaction of "winning".

I promise I didn't mean anything mean or rude towards you, I am on your side. And totally understand how you are feeling. **hugs and Merry Christmas**

12-22-2012, 04:32 PM
That sucks when family is not behind you. My family has been but I have a feeling if my Mother In Law was out here like she planned she would goad us a bit, she is like that.

Anyway, I haven't done a cheat because I am worried if I cheat, even a small piece of chocolate, and my weight stayed the same or I lost the same I would think, "Oh it's okay to cheat once in awhile" and I would continue to cheat and go down hill from there.

Which is why I don't, you know yourself and what you can and can't do/handle.


12-22-2012, 04:37 PM
I have a cheat day every week. I dont go overboard but I do eat the things I probably shouldn't. My hubby has been cutting out carbs but his diet plan says to spike up calorie intake once a week. He eats everything he wants on Saturdays, he pigs out. He has been consistent with me on weight loss. Makes me pretty mad cause I work out everyday, he hasn't changed his routine.
Maybe eat what they eat but in moderation, drink lots of water. Or u could just ask them to please be supportive of your plans to lead a healthier lifestyle.

12-22-2012, 05:25 PM
In low my many years ;) I have learned that family and especially extended family are going to talk about you either behind your back or to your face no matter what you do. If it isn't the food, then it's the way your discipline your kids or the way you drive or the way you wash dishes. If you do something not because you want to but because of them, thinking that way they won't talk about you, then they'll talk about what you didn't do. Or they'll find something else. Set boundaries for what is right for you, and let the talk fall where it may.
It is going to happen no matter what you do. People are like that.

12-22-2012, 05:41 PM
I have a cheat day every week. I dont go overboard but I do eat the things I probably shouldn't. My hubby has been cutting out carbs but his diet plan says to spike up calorie intake once a week. He eats everything he wants on Saturdays, he pigs out. He has been consistent with me on weight loss. Makes me pretty mad cause I work out everyday, he hasn't changed his routine.
Maybe eat what they eat but in moderation, drink lots of water. Or u could just ask them to please be supportive of your plans to lead a healthier lifestyle.
IP is a no-cheat protocol. It is very expensive and every cheat sets us back 2-3 days. Let's see...I spend 90/week on IP food. That is approximately $13/day. Supposing one cheat sets me back 3 days, I'm tossing out $39. If I were making cheat decisions, I'd be deciding whether IP was the program for me or not

There will always be excuses to cheat (holidays & special occasions occur all year long). What shows true strength and determination is to stay OP through the tough times. With good planning, it can be done. There are certainly enough recipes on this forum to support anyone thru almost any occasion. The only exception I can see to this is when someone has something happen suddenly in their life they couldn't plan for (one of our members recently had a son with a hospital stay).

Coaches who encourage cheat days must really like the extra $$

The thing I've liked best about IP is how easy it is to stay OP. It meets my needs for chocolate, sweet, salty, crunchy, all while staying on plan. I can take mashed rutabega (mock pumpkin) as a veggie but it can be eaten when others are having dessert OR I can make some IP fudge or IP cookies. I don't have to miss out, I just need to plan.

Planning has gotten me through special occasions and holidays so far. It'll get me though family Christmas and my upcoming vacation.

Good luck on whatever you decide.

12-22-2012, 05:58 PM
I would try to stick as low carb as possible during your dinners. You can always take things on your plate, mash them around and don't eat them. I would as close to IP as possible for your other meals.
The main thing is enjoy yourself! Good luck balancing the holidays.

12-22-2012, 06:18 PM
I agree Lisa...there are chances to cheat all year long (birthdays, anniversaries, holidays, bad days, good days, etc.) It is up to the individual to decide what's right for them but IP is known to be a "no cheat" diet!

12-22-2012, 07:43 PM
I was just at a family function. I brought what I needed to eat. Everyone was actually interested in what I was doing. I really don't care what people think about what I am eating or not eating. Family should support you.

It's your choice but I know I have no desire to go through ketosis again anytime soon. And a no cookies and such this year will make for an awesome fabulous Holiday outfit for the next.

Right now I totally love seeing my clothes get too big, buying new clothes, and seeing the scale numbers drop every week more than I would love some cookies or Mac n Cheese.

GL with what ever you decide.

12-22-2012, 08:19 PM
Sounds like you'll have some challenges this year but I hope you find a way to take the cheat days in moderation. Keep as low carb as possible and maybe just mash a few things around your plate to make it look like you've eaten them.

For yourself, try to keep your discipline on the days in between. If you knock yourself out of ketosis you may suddenly find you have additional cravings and it is harder to resist the temptation. Remind yourself of why you are doing the program to keep up with the boundaries you've set for yourself.

I have determined ahead of time that if I need to feel like I'm getting a little extra over the holidays then my "cheats" are going to be extra vegetables. I do get questioned by my family but I can easily just shrug it off and remind them where I was last year.

12-22-2012, 09:08 PM
At the end of the day, you have to decide what you're willing to deal with on the other end. Will you gain if you choose cheat days? Probably. It's up to you whether the trade off is worth it. Cheat days are meant for maintenance, when your body is working off more normal insulin production and glycogen stores. It *can* be a bit of a shock to the system to be following the IP protocol and then throw a bunch of off-plan foods at it. For every person who says that they had no side effects from cheating, I can find you two who had bad experiences. Whether you are OK with that possibility, and the likely gain, is totally up to you.

Is it easy to eat differently than everyone else? Of course not. But nothing worth having is ever easy :)

12-23-2012, 09:48 AM
I think it's odd that your coach suggested cheating 2 days in a row. That's a slippery slope. I love the suggestion that someone else posted of not eating the off plan foods and just hiding in on your plate. I've never thought of that, and it's so much easier than explaining why I am not eating something.

If you know you are going to cheat, I think the suggestion of using the alternative plan is a good one. You should be able to find that sheet online. I also suggest that you load up your plate with the OP foods and then just tiny portions of the off plan foods. Tiny like only 1 bite or so.

If you haven't eaten any high carb, high fat foods in a while it may make you feel sick, so be careful on the portions.

Don't forget to get all your water in!

New Englander
12-23-2012, 10:11 AM
First, you called your coach a couch!!! LOL!!! Freudian instead of seeing your coach you'd rather be on your couch! (Trying to be funny...) ;)

Honestly, it doesn't sound like you really want to fall off the wagon. Who cares that your coach is comfortable knowing you may cheat hence making it more okay. If you really want to than by all means do it, just know it gets harder to stay on track once you get off (even a little). Try your best to get through each event (one day at a time mentality) and by the last one if you feel you really want to veer off plan, do it with something minor and not a full blown carb/fat combo. Think about the days that will follow and how you described not wanting to feel bad about yourself for cheating. If you can stay strong and on plan you will feel so good about yourself. BUT if you do cheat and veer off plan YOU CAN'T feel bad about yourself. You just have to get back on plan and don't look back!!!

So basically if you can get through at 100% do it...if you really want to veer off plan do it but don't beat yourself up!!! Good luck with it all!!!

12-23-2012, 11:30 AM
Thank you for all the amazing advice ladies!!!! It really does help reading what everyone else thinks. Tonight is my dinner with my in-laws (Father in law) and we are going to a steak house so i am not too worried. Tomorrow is the big Christmas feast a my grandmas house. And its not like we are having mac and cheese and all that what she is doing in the regular like turkey stuffing potatoes and corn and salad. And what will be easy is loading up on turkey and veggies. I wont be tempted with stuffing the the potatoes i am tempted with. I am lucky i am not a desert person too. At-least i know what we are having so i can plan but the 25th is the dinner with my parent in laws and family and they are so judgmental and i am worried i asked what they are making and they wont tell me because they hate when i bring stuff. So i have to wait and see. On the plus side i am not big into drinking i dont even like wine too much. I haven't had a drink in 8 months. i am more of a water or diet pop drinker. I will keep everyone updated on my days and let you know :)

12-23-2012, 11:48 AM
Cheers, Amber, I'm raising my occasional SodaStream decaffeinated diet coke zero to you! :hug:

12-23-2012, 12:29 PM
If my family wouldn't tell me what they were having, I'd probably plan on not eating there (eating ahead of time) OR I'd bring my whole meal (knowing they hate it but doing it anyway b/c I didn't know what to expect)

So sorry you have a in-law family that treats you like that. Mine isn't like that but there are certainly other issues. Families are supposed to support each other! But so many times...

Isn't it great to know that our friends are the family we got to CHOOSE! I'm going out with some friends tonite & they chose 2 different restaurants but without my input, settled on the steakhouse, knowing it would work better for me. My friends rock!