Ideal Protein Diet - I'd rather be fat than bald!




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2elite2stop
12-16-2012, 01:12 AM
So today while washing and detangling my hair I noticed that my hair was coming out in literal clumps. For a month or so I have been losing hair. I noticed a small bald spot and now today it was so much hair that it filled a sandwich bag. I'm African American so my hair does not grow as fast as others and I have no chemicals in my hair (natural hair). The only culprit I can see is the diet. I've been successful and lost 40 lbs in 3 months but I'd rather be fat than bald! I'm halfway to my goal so I'm not quitting but I think I may change to the IP Alternate Plan where I can have fruit and more diverse veggies. If not, I'll go back to weight watchers. I need my hair! I know the literature says its normal to lose hair on IP, but this is too much! I'm happy about my weight loss but my hair has literally gone down the drain!


Babybat
12-16-2012, 01:46 AM
Hm, I never heard of anything like this. It might not be your diet...
You said your hair was falling out for a month or so, and you've been dieting for 3 months...so it doesn't add up. Plus I don't think changing whats in your diet would make your hair fall out.

I'm not a hair expert but it might be lack of protein. I would suggest going to the doctors or a salon. I'm really not sure sorry.

2elite2stop
12-16-2012, 01:52 AM
Hm, I never heard of anything like this. It might not be your diet...
You said your hair was falling out for a month or so, and you've been dieting for 3 months...so it doesn't add up. Plus I don't think changing whats in your diet would make your hair fall out.

I'm not a hair expert but it might be lack of protein. I would suggest going to the doctors or a salon. I'm really not sure sorry.


Thanks. The unfortunate truth is that hair loss is a side effect of IP. I knew this before starting but I thought that since I've done other diets and have kept my hair that this would be fine as well. All IP literature says its temporary however with the clumps and bald spots I have now I can't see how this hair will be back anytime soon. :-(. On the flip side I will be going to get a thyriod scan in a few weeks although I had one 5 months ago and it was normal. The doctor wanted a follow up for nodules that were benign. So I know my levels are normal. I love IP and hate to give it up. :-(


az365
12-16-2012, 02:01 AM
You could have a Vitamin E deficiency. It can be caused by low fat diets according to the Mayo clinic. Vitamin E deficiency can cause hair loss among other things.

Halfagain
12-16-2012, 03:21 AM
There was some good info in this thread earlier: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/265009-seriously-thinking-about-quitting-ip.html This is what got me using http://www.amazon.com/Purvana-2500-Biotin-Hair-Nails/dp/B004OOQ2IC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1355645565&sr=8-4&keywords=purvana+hair+skin+and+nails. I was not loosing hair - then, and I really haven't had a huge loss of hair (clumps) - if it's because of this, or not I can't say. I have really notice my finger nails have improved, and my skin. I am switching to the Costco hair/skin/nails supplements though when I am out of the Purvana.

bargoo
12-16-2012, 06:37 AM
Have you tried Biotin, Biotin is a B vitamin and really works for hair growth..You should be able to get it anyplace that sells vitamins. I order mine online from Puritan, but pharmacies or GNC should have it.

KathrynRose
12-16-2012, 08:36 AM
I had thin hair to start with, and I have lost even more since starting IP. I can no longer style my hair and am seriously considering a wig or wearing a scarf like someone who is going through chemo. I really, really hope that it grows back. I am white and also don't do anything chemically to my hair. If you are prone to hair loss, it is a side effect of any weight loss program where the weight drops very quickly, especially weight loss surgery.

2elite2stop
12-16-2012, 09:13 AM
Thanks guys. I did try biotin. It will take it a while to work bc all the damage has been done. The good thing is that I have lots of hair so I can cover up any bald spots. I tried to post a pic of all that came out but couldn't from my phone.

Beck81
12-16-2012, 09:22 AM
I have been on IP for 8 months and have been losing hair also. I think it is caused from the hormonal changes with losing. I've lost hair with other diets and also after the birth of my children. It starts at about 4 months and I have lost quite a bit. I have been taking Biotin since the start. Luckily, I have a fair amount of hair and I am a hairstylist so I know how to fluff it up! You shouldn't have bald spots so I would check with your Doctor. I'll still take the thinner hair with the thinner body! Hopefully the hair will come back and not the weight! Good luck.

2elite2stop
12-16-2012, 12:57 PM
I have been on IP for 8 months and have been losing hair also. I think it is caused from the hormonal changes with losing. I've lost hair with other diets and also after the birth of my children. It starts at about 4 months and I have lost quite a bit. I have been taking Biotin since the start. Luckily, I have a fair amount of hair and I am a hairstylist so I know how to fluff it up! You shouldn't have bald spots so I would check with your Doctor. I'll still take the thinner hair with the thinner body! Hopefully the hair will come back and not the weight! Good luck.

Thanks. I hope so to. :-)

Billster
12-16-2012, 01:25 PM
Well i'll be honest this caused me to switch to alternatives as well! Within 2 weeks of starting IP my hair started falling out in handfuls! I started to get bald spots and my hair started to turn noticeable grey! Im 28 years old, white no treated hair. I tried everything and was so upset i quit IP all together in the summer put some of the weight back on and decided to try alternatives in november. Lost 20lbs in a month and NO HAIR LOSS!! However my hair has stayed "salt n pepper" i have it highlighted by a hair dresser to hide it. My wonderful hairdresser said its not gaining more grey however she did say then when ones PH balance radically changes it can make hair go grey.

2elite2stop
12-16-2012, 03:59 PM
Well i'll be honest this caused me to switch to alternatives as well! Within 2 weeks of starting IP my hair started falling out in handfuls! I started to get bald spots and my hair started to turn noticeable grey! Im 28 years old, white no treated hair. I tried everything and was so upset i quit IP all together in the summer put some of the weight back on and decided to try alternatives in november. Lost 20lbs in a month and NO HAIR LOSS!! However my hair has stayed "salt n pepper" i have it highlighted by a hair dresser to hide it. My wonderful hairdresser said its not gaining more grey however she did say then when ones PH balance radically changes it can make hair go grey.

Wow. I'm 32 and have noticed some extra gray as well. I have been doing alternatives since my second week on IP. I think I may start the alternate IP plan before I give it all up. IP works.

kaplods
12-16-2012, 04:21 PM
Hair loss is not only common with dieting, it's common with many other sudden changes in lifestyle. The more drastic the diet change, the more hair loss is likely, but even moderate dieting can cause hair loss. Usually your body adjusts and while you may not regrow it all before you reach your goal weight, you probably won't continue losing it, and you'll almost certainly grow it all back when your diet stabilizes. So not only may you have lost all the hair you're going to, you'll get it all back eventually (it can be permanent, but almost never is unless there's something else going on).

Even though I've had it happen many times before (mostly when I was younger and had a whole lot more hair to lose), I was very upset when I started losing more hair then usual a few years ago, because the loss was quite noticeable at the front of my scalp. My doctor wasn't concerned, and said "when you're done dieting, it'll all grow back." He told me I could use Rogaine if I wanted (I didn't).

I thought I had lost all the hair I was going to, but then I started on a diet partly modeled after IP and I've been getting a new wave of hair loss (and I really can't afford to lose any more in the hairline area).

It sucks, but I would rather be bald than fat, especially knowing that the baldness is only temporary. Of course, I'd really prefer to be neither, and someday I will (unless I take so long to lose the weight that I start losing hair from aging).

On the plus side, it's a lot easier to "fake" having hair with wigs and weaves than fake being thin. Spanx can only do so much.

scorbett1103
12-16-2012, 04:27 PM
Well i'll be honest this caused me to switch to alternatives as well! Within 2 weeks of starting IP my hair started falling out in handfuls! I started to get bald spots and my hair started to turn noticeable grey! Im 28 years old, white no treated hair. I tried everything and was so upset i quit IP all together in the summer put some of the weight back on and decided to try alternatives in november. Lost 20lbs in a month and NO HAIR LOSS!! However my hair has stayed "salt n pepper" i have it highlighted by a hair dresser to hide it. My wonderful hairdresser said its not gaining more grey however she did say then when ones PH balance radically changes it can make hair go grey.

It is actually a side effect of rapid weight loss, not IP specifically. It can happen on alternatives just as easily as IP. Your body may have adjusted better the 2nd time around, which may explain the lack of hair loss when you went back to dieting.

New Englander
12-16-2012, 04:54 PM
Yeah, the hair loss stunk. You have to do what your comfortable doing. Just be careful not to fall back into old eating habits...(it's so easy to do, especially when you're not in ketosis).

chicago girl
12-17-2012, 12:25 PM
I've been on the diet for 20 weeks and just started to see a much larger hair loss in the last 3 weeks or so. It scares the heck out of me. I talked to my coach and she said it will grow back after the diet is done. But am totally freaked about it.

kaplods
12-17-2012, 01:21 PM
I've been on the diet for 20 weeks and just started to see a much larger hair loss in the last 3 weeks or so. It scares the heck out of me. I talked to my coach and she said it will grow back after the diet is done. But am totally freaked about it.


In terms of symptoms generating fear and concern hair loss is often at the top of patient's lists, but at the bottom of doctor's lists (because it's such a common reaction to many different types of stress, and usually isn't something serious if there aren't other symptoms).


Even knowing that, it can be traumatic to lose large amounts of hair, especially when one knows or suspects that it's becoming noticeable to others.

But the good news is that hair loss, by itself (with no other symptoms) is rarely serious, and almost never permanent.

thatgirl77
01-29-2013, 02:22 PM
I have been on IP for 8 months and have been losing hair also. I think it is caused from the hormonal changes I've lost hair with other diets and also after the birth of my children. It starts at about 4 months and I have lost quite a bit. I have been taking Biotin since the start. Luckily, I have a fair amount of hair and I am a hairstylist so I know how to fluff it up! You shouldn't have bald spots so I would check with your Doctor. I'll still take the thinner hair with the thinner body! Hopefully the hair will come back and not the weight! Good luck.

I noticed my hair losss at the 3 1/2 month mark and when i researched more about it ...others claimed the same time frame when they noticed the hair loss....I now am using clip-ins etc and had thick hair to begin with but this is the thinnest and most sparse its ever been...My doc took me off of my testorone and added cytomel with my synthroid due to thyroid being low...then I began to take the Omega 3's thrice daily and began biotin for two months and then switched to Biosil and it is slowly coming back my stylist has said..i've been on IP since June ..so 7 months now..to be fair..it happened while on Medifast also but i wasnt on it for this long a period of time. My doctor and the research all says that it will grow back..I am in my 50's and had hysterectomy at age 43 and hair has thinned exceedingly since then...thank goodness, i had thick hair to begin with....Also, be sure and take all your vitamins and if you eat seafood and chicken like me and no beef and only mixed greens..there is a lack of good fat and nutrients that can cause the hair loss....I wish everyone luck with this side effect ..i still love how i feel and look while doing IP and my fantastic results...I am balding but much thinner....:D

healthyangie
01-29-2013, 02:28 PM
I also suggest adding biotin. It made a big difference for me.

GramEGail
01-29-2013, 07:32 PM
How much Biotin are you taking?

PamC
01-29-2013, 07:49 PM
This happened to me a number of years ago when I did Medi-Fast. I'd go to pull my hair into a ponytail and it was so much lighter and thinner. It happened a few months into doing it, and I stopped the diet soon after. But, from what I understand, the damage if it's going to happen, happens fairly early on, but takes a few months before the hair loss happens. It's a condition called Telogen Effluvium and it's the body's reaction to a drastic shock. It happens with low cal dieting, severe stress, sometimes after giving birth. All kinds of things can set it off. I think some people might just be more prone to it than others. The hair goes into a resting phase and then falls out. It can be up to 50% of your hair, but not usually that high.

It may be too late to prevent the hair falling out if it's already shocked your body. But, the biotin may help it come back stronger.

The good news is that most if not all of the hair will grow back. It took about a year for me, but it came back.

BeccaGrim
01-29-2013, 08:59 PM
Hair loss started for me, a little bit, in the shower today. Not clumps but more hair than I'm used to seeing. But, to be fair I lost hair when my father in law suddenly died. It came back.

socalgirl83
01-29-2013, 09:05 PM
I also suggest adding biotin. It made a big difference for me.

Is there a specific brand or vitamin you guys take? Is Biotin the brand name?

zoesmom
01-29-2013, 09:13 PM
Funny thing happened today...I JUST read about this elsewhere and a bunch of people commented on their fix and what to expect after IP (I am not on IP, but on a similar program.)

Anyways, look here (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/205991-what-do-you-wish-your-coach-had-told-you.html), it may give you an answer you are looking for.

I know it is tough losing hair. We women hold onto the few things we find to be our best assets. But in truth, most likely after dieting, it will grow back. Slowly, but it will happen. My fear is hanging skin. I don't know why. I know I need to get rid of these extra pounds. But for the life of me, I hate the thought of having hanging skin. Hugs to you girl. Hang in there. You can do it.

clarksgirl
01-29-2013, 09:13 PM
After reading all of this, everyone has me scared to lose my hair! :( I wont give up, I agree that I would rather be teporarily bald than fat... But this Biotin stuff... do you think it would make sense to start taking it already before any hair loss happens? Would that help?

Psycht
01-29-2013, 10:00 PM
I have noticed a little hair loss but not a lot. I think I will start taking some biotin. The ironic thing is I show dogs and give biotin to them to keep them in good coat. I guess I will dip into their supply :-P

dunebaby
01-30-2013, 01:28 AM
Losing weight quickly on any plan includes hair loss as a potential side effect. Ways to try combat this are to add fish oil supplements into your diet (I don't know if this works, but it is recommended) and to ensure you're getting all of your nutrients each day. Your hair should come back when you're done with the quick weight loss.

I had this happen when I lost a lot of weight after a bad break-up---it did come back!

A1Texan
01-30-2013, 09:01 AM
So today while washing and detangling my hair I noticed that my hair was coming out in literal clumps. For a month or so I have been losing hair. I noticed a small bald spot and now today it was so much hair that it filled a sandwich bag. I'm African American so my hair does not grow as fast as others and I have no chemicals in my hair (natural hair). The only culprit I can see is the diet. I've been successful and lost 40 lbs in 3 months but I'd rather be fat than bald! I'm halfway to my goal so I'm not quitting but I think I may change to the IP Alternate Plan where I can have fruit and more diverse veggies. If not, I'll go back to weight watchers. I need my hair! I know the literature says its normal to lose hair on IP, but this is too much! I'm happy about my weight loss but my hair has literally gone down the drain!
I read about the hair loss before starting IP so I went to Whole Foods and purchased "Vegetal Silica". It's an Orthosilicic Acid that is for Healthy Skin, Hair & Nails. I haven't had any hair loss with the diet and the only side effect I'm experiencing is more hair cuts and trimming my nails :)

Maybe this will help some of you.

bargoo
01-30-2013, 10:15 AM
Is there a specific brand or vitamin you guys take? Is Biotin the brand name?

Biotin is the name of the vitamin. It is a B vitamin.
I take 5000 mcg a day. I get mine by mail from Puritan but any place that sells vitamins should have it.

scorbett1103
01-30-2013, 10:29 AM
Biotin is the name of the vitamin. It is a B vitamin.
I take 5000 mcg a day. I get mine by mail from Puritan but any place that sells vitamins should have it.

This is what I take as well - I get them at Wal Mart :)

healthyangie
01-31-2013, 04:21 PM
How much Biotin are you taking?

1mg (1000 mcg) per day.

healthyangie
01-31-2013, 04:27 PM
Is there a specific brand or vitamin you guys take? Is Biotin the brand name?

I'm taking just a generic brand. Biotin is the actual vitamin (like A, B, C, etc.) You can get it at any drug store. I'm taking 1000 mcg (1mg) daily.

Desafinado
01-31-2013, 04:49 PM
I've been taking Biotin for a long time and I recently upped from 1000 mg/day to 5000/mg a day when I started this diet. My hair is short and natural so I'd be temporarily bald for real if I lost a bunch of hair in a clump.

I have several wigs though so I would survive.

bubbleblower
01-31-2013, 09:52 PM
I'm taking Natrol Biotin. It's 10,000 mcg per day.

Znirpette
02-03-2013, 12:14 PM
I am also just starting my 4th month of IP and suddenly the front patch of my normally thick hair is showing some serious scalp.
I'm going out today to get some Biotin, but yeah, I get it... what woman wants to be thinning?? Like we don't already have enough body-image issues!
Oh well, one problem at a time right?
I think right now, I'll keep telling myself that the positives of weight loss is outweighing the negatives of hairloss. (Mind you if I'm bald in a month I may regret that decision!! LOL)

Chloe222
02-03-2013, 02:54 PM
I noticed hair loss around month 3 and started biotin 2500mcg/day. Think it slowed the progression of the loss. Coincidentally, yesterday had a conversation about hair loss with a friend of mine who had cancer and lost all of her hair and is still taking chemo on a maintenance basis (for the next year at least).

She mentioned it seemed that more of her hair was coming in quicker. Seems that not all hair strands start growing at once. Her doctor told her to use a special shampoo, Nioxin. She thinks its working. Here's some info I found on it. I have no idea how valid this is, but in my eyes, its worth a try:
http://womenshair.about.com/od/problemhairadvice/fr/nioxin.htm